Re: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

2017-06-27 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
Sorry if this is an insulting question, but did you store it in enough glycerol 
to prevent it from freezing?  Proteins don't like freeze/thaw cycles, 
especially slow ones.


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Subject: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

Dear all,
I am working on a Red Fluorescent Protein (His-Tag) molecular weight around 
27kDa. After purification I ran a SDS page, the band at 27kDa confirms the 
monomer. The protein was stored at -20C, a week later again I ran a gel, this 
time I saw another new band between 50-60kDa, it confirms the protein solution 
contains both monomers and dimers. I would like to know, what is the best way 
to separate the monomers and dimers? One of my colleague advice me to go for 
sucrose gradient centrifugation and size exclusion chromatography.
However, I seek all your valuable suggestions and advice.

With best regards
Dr. S.M.Jaimohan


Re: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

2017-06-27 Thread Debasish Kumar Ghosh
Dear Jaimohan,

With high amount of purified protein (like obtained in recombinant expression) 
they are likely to form higher oligomers if they have intrinsic property of 
association. With time the content of oligomers do increase. In SDS-PAGE even, 
you will see a faint band of oligomer. This is due to higher mass of protein 
from which some still could form oligomer even after boiling and presence of 
SDS. I am sure your protein has higher content of helical fraction.
My suggestion to you would be to perform HPLC or FPLC every time before assay 
or exp. It would reliably separate the monomer and higher oligomers. 

Best regards,

Debasish Kumar Ghosh

CSIR- Senior Research Fellow (PhD Scholar)
C/o: Dr. Akash Ranjan
Computational and Functional Genomics Group
Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics
Hyderabad, INDIA

Email(s): dkgh...@cdfd.org.in, dgho...@gmail.com
Telephone: 0091-9088334375 (M), 0091-40-24749396 (Lab)
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From: jai mohan <0cab66323371-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
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Subject: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

Dear all,I am working on a Red FluorescentProtein (His-Tag) molecular weight 
around 27kDa. After purification I ran a SDSpage, the band at 27kDa confirms 
the monomer. The protein was stored at -20C, aweek later again I ran a gel, 
this time I saw another new band between 50-60kDa, it confirmsthe protein 
solution contains both monomers and dimers. I would like to know, whatis the 
best way to separate the monomers and dimers? One of my colleague adviceme to 
go for sucrose gradient centrifugation and size exclusion 
chromatography.However, I seek all your valuable suggestions and advice.
With best regardsDr. S.M.Jaimohan


Re: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

2017-06-27 Thread Satya
Hello Jaimohan,

Is it SDS-PAGE gel or Native PAGE gel ?.  Theoretically SDS-PAGE is
supposed to show monomers and Native PAGE oligomers

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:27 AM jai mohan <
0cab66323371-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear all,
> I am working on a Red Fluorescent Protein (His-Tag) molecular weight
> around 27kDa. After purification I ran a SDS page, the band at 27kDa
> confirms the monomer. The protein was stored at -20C, a week later again I
> ran a gel, this time I saw another new band between 50-60kDa, it confirms
> the protein solution contains both monomers and dimers. I would like to
> know, what is the best way to separate the monomers and dimers? One of my
> colleague advice me to go for sucrose gradient centrifugation and size
> exclusion chromatography.
> However, I seek all your valuable suggestions and advice.
>
> With best regards
> Dr. S.M.Jaimohan
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

2017-06-27 Thread Keller, Jacob
Are you boiling your samples? Seems funny that under SDS PAGE there should be 
dimers, unless there is a disulfide link. If so, reducing agents (DTT, TCEP, 
BME) should take care of this.

JPK

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Smith Liu
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

it was not stable for frozen storage. if necessary,using protein fresh without 
frozen

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在2017年06月27日 20:22,jai 
mohan<mailto:0cab66323371-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> 写道:
Dear all,
I am working on a Red Fluorescent Protein (His-Tag) molecular weight around 
27kDa. After purification I ran a SDS page, the band at 27kDa confirms the 
monomer. The protein was stored at -20C, a week later again I ran a gel, this 
time I saw another new band between 50-60kDa, it confirms the protein solution 
contains both monomers and dimers. I would like to know, what is the best way 
to separate the monomers and dimers? One of my colleague advice me to go for 
sucrose gradient centrifugation and size exclusion chromatography.
However, I seek all your valuable suggestions and advice.

With best regards
Dr. S.M.Jaimohan


Re: [ccp4bb] Separating Monomers and Dimers

2017-06-27 Thread Smith Liu
it was not stable for frozen storage. if necessary,using protein fresh without 
frozen

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在2017年06月27日 20:22,jai mohan 写道:
Dear all,
I am working on a Red Fluorescent Protein (His-Tag) molecular weight around 
27kDa. After purification I ran a SDS page, the band at 27kDa confirms the 
monomer. The protein was stored at -20C, a week later again I ran a gel, this 
time I saw another new band between 50-60kDa, it confirms the protein solution 
contains both monomers and dimers. I would like to know, what is the best way 
to separate the monomers and dimers? One of my colleague advice me to go for 
sucrose gradient centrifugation and size exclusion chromatography.
However, I seek all your valuable suggestions and advice.


With best regards
Dr. S.M.Jaimohan