[CTRL] Fw: [earthwatch] Update:Quantum Fuel, Eve 2 and Rampageing Grizzlies

1999-12-02 Thread Nicky Molloy





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Neo-Cold War/War Talk: China, 
China, China


China's 
Canal
President Clinton admitted yesterday that the Communist 
Chinese will, in fact, run the Panama Canal when the United States pulls all of 
its troops out and relinquishes control of the vital waterway Jan. 1, 2000. - 
WND 

China's 
Stealth Missile
The new Chinese navy missile is intended to fly at very low 
altitude to defeat radar detection, and strike its target at supersonic speed. 
No Western nation currently has such a weapon. In fact, the only similar weapon, 
an underwater version of the nuclear-armed U.S. Tomahawk cruise missile, has 
been withdrawn from service. -- WND


Target 
Tiawan
China is expanding a missile base across from Taiwan where 
nearly 100 of Beijing's newest short-range missile systems will be deployed, 
increasing the threat to the island. -- Washington Times

US Missel Shields to 
Tiawan
We have made clear to the Chinese government our 
concerns regarding Chinese missile developments and their influence on the 
situation in the Taiwan Strait, State Department spokesman James P. Rubin 
said in response to a report in yesterday's editions of The Washington Times... 
We have a strong interest in maintaining peace and stability in the Taiwan 
Strait, he told reporters. That is why we have approved 
defensive-arms sales to Taiwan in accordance with the Taiwan Relations 
Act. -- Washington Times

China's New Air 
Defence
The technology, which could detect U.S. stealth aircraft, 
including the F-117 bomber and perhaps even the futuristic F-22 fighter, has so 
alarmed the defense community that top military and industry experts have been 
called to a secret meeting in December to discuss the strategic implications, 
the magazine said in its Dec. 6 issue hitting newsstands Monday... Everyone is wondering about the cost of defending Taiwan if 
U.S. air power was suddenly vulnerable, Newsweek quoted an intelligence source 
as saying. -- Exite

Reviveing 
Star Wars
When the United States raises the prospect that it will build 
a missile defense system, Russian strategic planners don't have far to go for a 
response... They can reach for a drawer marked Star Wars and take 
out some of the Soviet-era blueprints drawn up more than 15 years ago in 
response to President Reagan's grand hopes for the Strategic Defense Initiative, 
a missile defense shield. -- Washington Post

Terrer
Bin Laden Alert
The State Department and the United Nations are tightening 
security at their outposts in Pakistan and throughout Central Asia after 
receiving warnings that Islamic militants with links to Osama bin Laden may be 
planning attacks in the region, U.S. and U.N. officials said today. -- 
Washington Post

Anti-Bioterror 
Stockpiles at Risk
The government's medical stockpiles for dealing with chemical 
or biological terrorism are poorly managed, often lacking vital drugs and 
adequate security, congressional auditors said Tuesday. -- AP

Agents Easily 
Defeat Airport Security
Transportation Department investigators 
penetrated security so easily at major U.S. airports that some were seated 
comfortably aboard airliners at departure time and could have taken a free trip. 
-- MSNBC

Cyberwar
NASA Vurtual 
War
The Web pages of three US 
Government agencies, including NASA's Goddard Flight Center, have been defaced 
by a cracker who is worried that US government security systems are vulnerable 
to cyberattack. -- Wired 

WTO Issue 
Underground(More on 
WTO:Martial Law in Seatle.. Reuters)
Seattle is now a city under essential martial 
law, Hunt wrote in a news-group posting, as national guard troops 
are moving in to ensure that the representatives of the wealthy overlords can 
finish their planned agenda for stealing more of the sustenance from the 
worlds peoples to line their already overflowing pockets. -- 
ABC

Infraguard
A national InfraGard program was developed after President 
Clinton directed the FBI to identify and coordinate computer infrastructure 
protection experts inside and outside the federal government. -- CP

Y2K (FAS Millinial 
Monitor)
Clinton Set To Declair National Emergency
President Clinton has already made plans to declare a national 
emergency because of expected disruptions caused by the Y2K computer problem, 
according to Federal Emergency Management Agency documents. -- WorldNetDaily 


FEMA 
Expects the Worst
The federal government is expecting the Y2K computer bug to 
cause more than just a few minor inconveniences, according to training materials 
for emergency managers... The Federal Emergency Management 
Agency has been conducting regional Y2K workshops for federal agency officials 
who will be dealing with Y2K-related 

[CTRL] OZ Embassy staff flee Y2K bug

1999-12-02 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Apparently NZers are returning home like lemmings from Europe too.

http://www.news.com.au/news_content/national_content/4148803.htm

Embassy staff flee Y2K bug
By STEPHEN BIRCH
1dec99

AUSTRALIA is pulling its consular staff out of Moscow and Warsaw over
Christmas and New Year because of fears of the Y2K effect.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has authorised the departure of
non-essential staff and their dependants by December 28.

There are about 20 DFAT staff in Moscow and the withdrawal will see the
embassy occupied by only a skeleton staff.

A similar withdrawal has been authorised for the Polish capital Warsaw.

The department is concerned the Y2K computer bug will cause major disruption
in Russia, with banking and finance, water and sewerage, power, health,
local transport and telecommunications all possibly at risk.

Australians have been warned to delay non-essential travel to Russia and
those wishing to leave the country advised that seats on departing aircraft
may be limited.

Those who do end up travelling to Russia have been advised to carry extra
funds and necessary medication to "minimise the potential impact of Y2K
difficulties on their arrangements".

The Immigration and Visa section of the embassy in Russia will be closed
from December 15 to January 18.

A spokeswoman for DFAT said most of the staff leaving Moscow and Warsaw
would be taking their normal holidays.

"Some will most likely come back to Australia, while others will probably go
to neighbouring countries," she said.

No travel warning has been issued for Poland.

Australia has reviewed the 80 countries in which it has a regular presence
and Russia and Poland are the only ones in which it deems the situation
serious enough to pull out its staff.

The US is taking similar measures in Russia, Belarus, Moldova and the
Ukraine, with hundreds of State Department staff and their families
withdrawing because of fears over the Y2K bug.

In another development, Russia's Pacific Fleet, which includes atomic
submarines, has taken measures to prevent the Y2K computer bug from
accidentally launching its nuclear weapons.

Officials have played down any worries over Russia's nuclear arsenal.


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1 - 12/02/99

1999-12-02 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 991202a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* No prophets were verbally abused during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Grafica Obscura: http://www.sgi.com/grafica/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# What next, Leonids? (NASA) The Leonids of 1999 gave skywatchers in Europe
  and the Middle East a tremendous show of over 1500 meteors per hour at the
  peak. What lies in store for stargazers next year and in the early 21st
  century? http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast02dec99_1.htm

# DOOM! I have made no bones about prophesying that America will meet its
  destruction by Almighty God before Bill Clinton leaves office on January
  20, 2001. See the documentation at: http://www.rt66.com/~bandsrpt/FAQ.html

: What's your favorite prognostication? Do you trust the prophesies of UFOl-
ogists, astronomers, soothsayers, politicos, economists, aliens, robots, me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# WORRY. Specifically, the FBI worries about "violent white supremacists who
  seek to initiate a race war; apocalyptic cults that anticipate a violent
  Armageddon; radical elements of private citizen militias who fear that the
  United Nations will initiate an armed takeover of the United States and
  subsequently establish a One World Government, and other groups or indivi-
  duals who promote violent millennial agendas".  ETs don't make the list:
www.nando.net/noframes/story/0,2107,500063593-500105212-500471217-0,00.html

: Do you worry more about Nazi/KKK warriors, deathcults, militias, Reptoids,
megacorps, plagues, zeroes, lawyers, robots, spies, demons, dwarves, hackers
or me? Is a One World Govt an idea whose time has come? Can you use it? Eh?

@ An Introduction to the UFO Phenomenon -- Start here:
  http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/ufointro.html
@ Evidence of the Extraterrestrial Theory - weighing the evidence
  supporting the theory that UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin.
  http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/et_evidence.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# PISSED-OFF. "Why Don't The Damn Things Swim - so we can turn them over to
  the Navy!" This is how an Air force investigator summed up his exaspera-
  tion in trying to sift UFO facts from fancy. From 1951-53, the author
  headed up Project Blue Book, the now-famous official investigation into
  UFO's. Here is what he learned: http://users.ev1.net/~seektress/swim.htm

: Do you trust anyone to adequately investigate UFOs? Are military personnel
appropriate for investigations of the paranormal? If you were assigned to
probe UFOs, onto who would you slough off the task? Can they worm out of it?

# NO ALIENS: http://news.excite.com/news/bw/991130/ny-simon--schuster-ache
@ Astral Projection as a Means of Alien Transportation --- What if ETs
  use astral projection to bridge the gap between their planet and Earth?
  http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/alienastral.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Web Appliances: Get ready to plug in the 1st batch of easy-to-use gadgets.
  All the hype about the future of Web devices that are simple to use, slee-
  kly designed, and easy on the wallet will peak this spring when the first
  big batch is scheduled to arrive. These machines offer just an inkling of
  what's ahead in the post-PC era, or as Microsoft likes to say, the PC-plus
  era. http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/trends/0,7607,2401567,00.html

: When everything you own is wired, when YOU are wired, will disconnection
be death? Do Web.appliances lead to total slavery? Will you go willingly?

# Information-brokers on the Web - KNOWLEDGE IS POWER IS WEALTH IS CONTROL
  IS KNOWLEDGE: http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19991204/netro.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ The Moon Is practically all Water frozen or Ice It was formed By water
  evaporating From the earth Which arose and gathered Between the Earth and
  Sun It is hollow Like a pumpkin The inside is composed of that part of the
  air known as Nitrogen And very very cold Consequently its water is frozen.
  If the crust of the moon Was removed, it would be a Sun bright enough To
  destroy the earth. http://www.mjt.org/exhibits/letters/edward.htm

: Are all planets and moons hollow like pumpkins? Can humans exploit this
structure to gain dominance over the solar system? Did ETs already do so?

@ Animal Mutilations -- A look at the baffling phenomena of mutilated
  animals. http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/mutilate.html
@ Alien Snuff - Real alien or silicon-made fake? "Alien Autopsy" footage:
  http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/aliensnuff.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Bruce H.G. Calder's THIS-DAY-IN-HISTORY - December 2, 1987 - The Rev. Jerry
Falwell vs. Hustler Mag publisher Larry Flynt in the U.S. Supreme 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2 - 12/02/99

1999-12-02 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 991202b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* No divine forms were explicated during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ The Tower of Babel: http://www.mjt.org/exhibits/babel.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Mars Site Is Out Of This World - Knight-Ridder
  http://www.sltrib.com/1999/dec/12011999/nation_w/1855.htm
# Crush Expected At Mars Lander Website - Newsbytes
  http://www.cnnfn.com/news/technology/newsbytes/140008.html

: Will you monitor the Mars landing online? Do you trust NASA to transmit
the actual images/data, or will they provide disinfo to camouflage the ETs?

# City Square Photos -- The Global Surveyor photographs the Cydonian
  region of Mars again giving us more photos of the "City Square":
  http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/cydonia2.html
# NASA Finds A Faceless Mars -- The Global Surveyor's new images of
  the famous Cydonian region of Mars contradicts the Viking images
  taken 20 years ago. The difference, Mars no longer has a face!
  http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/cydonia1.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# If you want to know the truth about the WTO, ignore the official site
  http://www.wto.org/ and head for the protest site http://gatt.org/
  created by media pranksters http://rtmark.com/ ®TMark. The WTO is
  fighting http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991124/wr/web_sites_2.html
  to shut it down, but protesters are also trying to shut down the WTO site.
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991130/wr/britain_electrohippies_1.html
  And see http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Politics/ or remain uninformed.

: Is the world irretrievably interconnected by political/economic/social
forces? Is the WTO a cause or an effect, a conspiracy or a counter-plot?
Would you like to run the world economy? Is the only solution, to expand
off-planet? How will an interworld economy operate? Can it be controlled?

@ An embarrassed Party meeting in 1981 pronounced Chairman Mao 70%
  good and only 30% bad. All in all, a satisfactory report card:
  http://www.litreview.com/reviews/1999/11/Cradock_on_Spence.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# TROJ_EXPLOREZIP strikes once again: TROJ_EXPZIPWMPAK. Just as we thought
  TROJ_EXPLOREZIP was history, we received several new copies. But unlike
  the original TROJ_EXPLOREZIP, these new samples were compressed with a
  commercial utility. TROJ_EXPZIPWMPAK (a.k.a. TROJ_ExploreZip_Worm_Packed)
  is identical to TROJ_EXPLOREZIP. It holds the same mass-mailing payload,
  as well as the same destructive payload. To read more about the different
  payloads of this compressed trojan, please refer to our website at:
  www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=TROJ_EXPZIPWMPAK
  OR http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/security/sa061099.htm and see
  http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32824,00.html

: Have you bred a new virus lately? Are the payloads and delivery systems
enhanced, evolving, uncontrollable? Will your virus destroy civilization??

# Build your own empire and oversee the quest for ancient symbols of power:
http:/hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=0013IS
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# WIFE ABUSE MAY BE LINKED TO HIV IN INDIAN WOMEN. Many men in rural north
  India are infecting their wives with sexually transmitted diseases, put-
  ting them at increased risk of acquiring HIV; wives of abusive men are at
  greater risk: http://www.healthcentral.com/news/newsfulltext.cfm?ID=22775

: Will physical sex become an unacceptable risk, with humans reproducing by
exchanging DNA codes over the InterNet? Is cybersex the key to our survival?
Do you eagerly await advances in teledildonics? Will telepathic implants let
you have complete sexual satisfaction without any messy physical contact??

# Bad HIV Kits Online: www.cnnfn.com/news/technology/newsbytes/140133.html
@ MY BOYFRIEND HAD A NEGATIVE HIV TEST. IS HE A SAFE SEXUAL PARTNER?
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=22601
@ WHICH OF MY MEDICATIONS ARE CAUSING ERECTILE DIFFICULTIES?
  http://www.healthcentral.com/peoplespharmacy/PharmFullText.cfm?ID=2226
@ CAN I HAVE MY 7-INCH PENIS ENLARGED? Well above-average anyway:
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=22633
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ FORMS IN THE ORION NEBULA. "These forms are only an inkling just a trace a
  readily intelligible and even forceable mode of representation of That
  Consuming Fire the Almighty, understood by symbols, and traceable in early
  Chaldean Art, to-day dug up in the ruins of Ninevah and Babylon, such as
  winged, human headed Bulls, winged Lions, heads of an Eagle or Vulture, a
  curved beak, half open, disclosing a narrow pointed tongue  etc.  etc.
  all elements 

[CTRL] WTO, Sleepless in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE
It will never be the same for the bulimic boomers of brutal capitalism. The
serial rapists of the planet's economy and environment still retain their
power but they have finally lost their cover of respectability. Even C-SPAN
felt obliged to interview a union leader. As Matt Drudge said, "The news was
becoming real again."

Wrote one newspaper: "Not since the days of the Vietnam War and the civil
rights movement has the entire downtown core of a major American city been
seized by popular uprising; rarely has so diverse an array of groups linked
elbows against a common enemy, in this case the faceless forces of
globalization."

Not that the television industry didn't try to keep a lid on the story. The
TV cabal of silence was in marked and totally unjustifiable contrast to the
excessive coverage given such events as JFK Jr.'s death, school shootings,
and highway chases. On the first night of demonstrations only Fox News gave
serious face time to the most important new movement since the beginning of
the dismal era of Thatcher, Reagan and Clinton. Even then, however, Fox's
White House correspondent distinguished himself by misinforming his viewers
on the meaning of both the WTO ('nothing more than a traffic cop') and the
protests against it.

The major print media did better until, of course, you got to the editorial
page where you found such gems as this from the Washington Post: "In
principle one might object that unelected advocacy groups have no right to
special treatment. But the Internet has handed these groups too much power
to make their complete exclusion practical." Of course, nobody elected the
WTO (or even got a chance to debate it under constitutional rules) but such
blatant disinformation by the Post is sadly familiar. It was, in fact, the
Post that created and then shamelessly promoted an "unelected advocacy
group" called the Federal City Council that has grossly exaggerated
influence over local affairs.

Some of the coverage leading up to Seattle revealed the deep corporate bias
of the media. For example, NBC financial correspondent Mick Jensen concluded
that "most experts say getting rid of trade barriers on both sides is a good
thing for American workers and consumers." An Associated Press report called
protesters' concerns "far-fetched," and continued by noting that "for every
campaigner lying down on a sidewalk this week to protest the WTO's efforts
to reduce trade barriers, there is a happily employed Seattleite whose job
depends on free commerce."

FAIR even caught ABC's Seattle affiliate bragging of its plans to censor its
own reporting. It announced that it would "not devote coverage to
irresponsible or illegal activities of disruptive groups," adding that "KOMO
4 News is taking a stand on not giving some protest groups the publicity
they want So if you see us doing a story on a disruption, but we don't
name the group or the cause, you'll know why."

As for the protests themselves, no one should be fooled. Demonstrations
don't make policy. They can only make it a little easier, especially when,
as in this case, the first task is to strip the mask of respectability from
those damaging the earth and its communities in order to improve next
quarter's profits.

These people are not to be trusted. The task is not to join them at the
table but to overturn the table. As Rep. Dennis Kucinich put it, the basic
issue is citizens' "control over civic institutions and over their own
government... that people can make decisions about clean air, clean water,
human rights, better health care, better retirement. If private interests
are simply running things, then that means that people are at their mercy...
The market is not going to be parceling out democratic rights."

The media seemed particularly confused that labor leaders and Pat Buchanan
could be on the same side, but as Carolyn Chute has put it: "There's no
right and left, there's only up and down. Up there are the fat cats having a
great time, while down here the rest of us are struggling to survive." The
problem for the major media facing such a story is that it has been up so
long it all looks down to it. What those paragons of photogenic pablum fail
to understand is that more and more Americans see them as part of the
problem. But then, Chesterton once noted that "to be smart enough to get all
that money you must be dull enough to want it."

Is it too early to talk about next? Perhaps, but a few cautions to file from
someone in his fourth decade of writing about demonstrations:
-- They are only the opening act. Too much reliance on demonstrations can
create a static ritual actually slowing a movement down or falsely
suggesting lessened interest in a idea when the real drop-off is in going to
protests that don't product results.
-- There are other ways to keep the public involved. For example, Tony
Schwartz, a guru in guerrilla media 

[CTRL] Fw: [MC] David Icke's lecture: The Biggest Secret

1999-12-02 Thread Nicky Molloy

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From: Kasten, Kathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thursday, 2 December 1999 16:21
Subject: [MC] David Icke's lecture: The Biggest Secret


RE: David Icke lecture
DATE: November 21, 1999, 12:00 PM, Woodland Hills Hilton, California
TOPIC: The Biggest Secret
Ambient Music: "We Are the Power" and "Larger Than Life" sung by the Back
Street Boys.

David Icke was dressed from foot to neck in black, and for most of the
lecture spoke outside any of the spotlights focused directly beyond the foot
of the speaker's platform.  Hidden almost in darkness.

It had been a couple of years since I last heard Icke speak.  At that time
he was using a degrading term when referring to the people in his audience.
"Sheeple!"  He no longer peppers his lectures with this term.  However, all
of the rest of his previous lecture of 4 years ago was there, i.e., "they
are stopping everyone from knowing the truth" lecture.  Plus, there is a new
addition of a clip from Monty Python's movie "The Life of Brian" to
emphasize the message that "everybody should think for themselves."  Plus,
the same message was repeated with a clip from the movie "Antz."  Most of
this part of the lecture was a rehash of Jordan Maxwell's material regarding
Masonic symbolism, plus researchers like Acharya's information regarding the
true nature of Christianity and Laurence Gardner's massive lifetime research
into royal bloodlines.  All material more thoroughly discussed and
intensively researched elsewhere.  It would be my suggestion that you read
the books of those authors, and others who write about this information for
a living.

At midpoint in the lecture was the reason most people came.  Credo Mutwa.
It is claimed that Mutwa is a Zulu shaman.  And, the reason David Icke is
representing him in America is that Mutwa's religious philosophy supports
Icke's contention that a reptilian race is, at this time, interacting with
humans.  According to Mutwa, this reptilian race has been interacting with
humans since the very beginning of human history on the planet.  Icke let
Mutwa speak directly to the audience through a video Icke had available at
the back of the ballroom for $49.95 plus SH of $3.50.  The clip of the
video we were shown was, of necessity, only a part of Mutwa's testimony.
(The full text of an interview with Mutwa can be read in The Spectrum;
Volume 1, Number 5, October 5, 1999.)  Unlike the short clip from the video
would suggest, Mutwa is touched by modern civilization, is self-tutored in
the ufology scene and a very sophisticated worldly man who knows how to
promote an agenda.  I am not sure whether Icke's attempt at suggesting that
Mutwa was the pure voice of a primitive belief system was intentional or
not.  Americans tend to be overtly racist, but the British (based on
personal experience) tend to be subtler.  As part of Icke's proof that the
Zulu people were believers in things extraterrestrial, a slide of Mutwa's
"ceremonial" necklace was shown.  It was claimed that the necklace was made
of copper and was a replica of a necklace passed down to Mutwa.  "Replica"
is the keyword here.  My university level studies include
archaeology/anthropology.  Usually, the real thing is past down to the
shaman because it contains the power of all the shaman before him.  A
replica is not the usual, traditional, way a powerful relic is handed down.
In addition, Icke was pointing out to the audience various pieces on the
necklace and claiming one piece was suppose to represent a spaceship.  It
looked like a symbol of an indigenous native's house.  Another piece was
suppose to be an "alien."  To me, based on museum visits I have made to
study African art, it looked like a typical tribe spirit totem.  A typical,
non-ET looking indigenous native male.  Icke was the source of the
description, not Mutwa.  What Mutwa presented, in both the video and the
Spectrum article, was a painting he had done of what he calls the Chitauli,
a reptilian looking being.  It looked oddly familiar to me, but not from a
"face-to-face" event, but an image I have seen in a publication somewhere.
Another statement of Mutwa's religious belief is his claim that the Zulu
people came from the stars.

The point is that Mutwa has traveled all over the world, and interacted with
many people in ufology.  Unless we see Mutwa in the context of his cultural
beliefs, other Zulu members unconnected with Mutwa making the same claims,
we have only Mutwa's word and Icke's vested interest.

As proof of Icke's contention that the British royals are members of the
reptilian race, he offered Princess Diana's thoughts - mentioned to a
"friend", who mentioned it to a reporter of a British tabloid - that "the
royals were positively reptilian."  In other words, this is just plain
unsubstantiated anecdotal testimony of a third, fourth and hundredth party.
Not even close to being evidentiary proof of anything except everybody likes

[CTRL] [endsecrecy] History of Mind Control

1999-12-02 Thread lloyd

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..

Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [endsecrecy] History of Mind Control
Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 8:01 AM

From:
*  World Of The Strange  *
Weekly Newsletter of the Paranormal
By: Louise A. Lowry
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A Short History Of Government Excursions Into Mind Control
By K.B. Wells Jr.
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Excerpt From His Book
"The Montauk Files:
Unearthing the Phoenix Conspiracy


It is important to understand that the information we are about to cover is
only an extremely small portion of what is publicly known about the U.S.
government's attempts at Mind Control. Even though the amount of known
information is large, the data still remaining secret must be even more
massive. When, and if, these other activities will ever be made public
depend
largely on our tenacity. The government, obviously, will not be volunteering
anything due to their goodwill and integrity on the matter.

Modern Mind Control stretches back to the spring of 1943 and the Dachau
concentration camp in Germany, infamous for its inhuman treatment of Jewish
prisoners. Not only were the Nazis doing human performance tests on
prisoners
(oxygen depravation, altitude and pressure testing), they were using large
doses of mescaline on prisoners to study the effects it had on the mind.
Enough dosage, they felt, and the prisoners would reveal their innermost
secrets.

In 1947, the Navy got into the act by starting Project Chatter. Chatter was
to develop a truth drug that would force people to reveal their innermost
secrets. The goal of this project was to weaken, if not eliminate, free will
in individuals. What did the Navy, partially responsible for the
Philadelphia
Experiment, need with a truth drug? Project Chatter was closed in 1953.

In 1947, as soon as the CIA was formed, Project Bluebird was initiated.
Bluebird was intended to;
1) Prevent unauthorized extraction of information from agents;
2) Investigate the possibility of controlling individuals;
3) Enhance memory abilities and 4) Establish a defensive means to prevent
hostile control of agents.

In 1951, the CIA coordinated mind control efforts with the Army, Navy and
Air
Force. The Navy already had an ongoing project named Bluebird, so the
project
was changed to Artichoke. The charter of Artichoke was to;
1) Develop any method to get information from a person against their will or
without their knowledge;
2) Counter the same method if it is used against the United States and
3) Find a method to entice a person to do their bidding, even if it was
contrary to natural laws of preservation.

Separate from this effort, in 1953, the CIA launched their biggest, and
deadliest, effort towards Mind Control. Its funding was secret except to the
highest levels of CIA management. This project was an 'umbrella project'
that
supervised research on radiation, electroshock, various fields of
psychology,
psychiatry, sociology, anthropology and paramilitary devices and materials.
MKULTRA had been born.

When the plug on MKULTRA was finally pulled in 1973, it had spawned and
supervised an incredible 149 sub-projects. In 1977, Admiral Stansfield
Turner, Director of the CIA, presented the following list of MKULTRA
activities to two Senate Committees:

• Research into effects of behavioral drugs:
- 17 sub-projects not involving human testing
- 14 sub-projects definitely involving human testing
- 25 sub-projects involving human testing on unwitting subjects

• Research on hypnosis:
- 6 sub-projects
- 2 sub-projects involving use of hypnosis and behavioral drugs

• Acquisition of chemicals and drugs (7 sub-projects)
• Aspects of magician's art useful in covert operations (4 sub-projects)
• Studies of human behavior and sleep research (9 sub-projects)
• Library searches and seminars on behavior modification (6 sub-projects)
• Motivational studies or MR (23 sub-projects)
• Polygraph research (3 sub-projects)
• Funding channels for MKULTRA activities (3 sub-projects)
• Research into drugs, toxins and pathogens in human tissue (6 sub-projects)
• Activities whose purpose could not be determined (3 sub-projects)
• Activities involving Army Research at Fort Detrick (MKNAOMI) (3
sub-projects)

• Single sub-projects in the following areas:
- effects of electroshock
- harassment techniques
- analysis of ESP
- gas propelled sprays
- 4 sub-projects involving the use of crop and material sabotage
• 3 sub-projects canceled before any work could be started

So, of which sub-project do you think you or your family were a part?? How
many of these sub-projects does it seem that Phoenix could have been a part
of?? By my count, judging by only the information presented above, there are
a total of 101 out of these 149 sub-projects that could have incorporated
Phoenix in one or all forms of its legends. This is a 

[CTRL] 'Great Satan' Behind Y2K Woes

1999-12-02 Thread Nicky Molloy

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I hope Saddam doesn't get too angry and take it out on you guys. N.

Fri 03 December 1999  Home  News  Year 2000  Story

'Great Satan' Behind Y2K Woes
06:45AM Wed Nov 24 1999 NZDT
Jonathan Lyons
TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) - Iran's 20-year-old breach with the United States
has come back to haunt it in the form of the Y2K computer bug, a legacy of
Western technological domination.

Islamic Iran's unique solar calendar may say the year is 1378 but it must
grapple with the feared aftereffects of a Western computer shortcut timed to
the start of the next Christian millennium.

Experts worry that an old method of recording dates on software and chips
controlling electronic systems could go haywire when clocks strike midnight
Dec. 31. Most at risk, say Iranian engineers, is the large base of aging US
technology, largely dating back to before the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Much of it involves so-called embedded systems, monitors and controllers
largely hidden from view and long-forgotten. The lack of ties with
Washington and the strict US technology embargo against Iran mean experts
here are engaged in a game of hide-and-seek -- often without a map.

Some foreign vendors have gone out of business, abandoned old product lines
or are simply unable to meet all requests for help from their customers.

Most other developing countries face similar challenges. But technology
sanctions imposed by the United States, routinely denounced here as the
Great Satan, have added an extra challenge to Iran's Y2K effort.

``We received a letter from the telecoms ministry that they were looking for
some information from Hughes company ... to tell them whether they are
Y2K-compliant or not,'' Mohammad Sepehri-rad, Iran's Y2K coordinator, told
Reuters. ``But they have not been successful in getting it.''

Sepehri-Rad, secretary of the High Council of Informatics, said similar
problems have been encountered at Iran's two newest oil refineries, which
have US-sourced equipment. ''None of our refineries, except two, has any
problem (because) they have no date-related embedded systems. There are only
two such refineries, one in Arak and one in Bandar Abbas.''

NO HELP AVAILABLE

Appeals to the US government and firms, passed through the United Nations,
have gone nowhere. ``I got word just a few days ago saying they have still
not been successful in getting any help. Even the United Nations cannot get
through,'' Sepehri-Rad said.

A spokesman for Hughes Electronics, a unit of General Motors, said the firm
had turned down an upgrade request for Iran relayed by INTELSAT, the global
satellite cooperative. The Y2K fixes were intended for Hughes' VSAT private
networks used by Iran's telecommunications authority and its central bank.

``We had to turn them down because that's not permitted under US
regulations,'' said Richard Dore, a spokesman in Los Angeles for Hughes
Electronics.

Despite these difficulties, Iranian experts are cautiously optimistic they
will manage the changeover to 2000. In fact, they say, the turmoil of the
1979 revolution, the 1980-1988 war with Iraq and general isolation from the
outside world have insulated Iran from some of the dangers of Y2K.

Iran suffered from a ``technology gap'' due to the revolution and the war,
said Parviz Naseri, a private Y2K consultant to the Iranian government. Many
of the oldest systems are less automated and thus less vulnerable, while the
most recent ones are already Y2K-ready, he said.

``Most technology is pre-1979, or very recent. Also, many of the features in
industrial process control, reliant on date and time, are not being used
here. In the power ministry we have examples of this. They have the
instruments but they have not used all the fully-automated features.''

Iran can also take comfort in the low-tech nature of banking, government
services and most industry.

Even the US embargo has had a bright side: Forced to rely on their own
devices, many state organizations wrote their own programs from scratch,
basing them on the Iranian calendar.

Where old IBM mainframes were involved, they have been traded for newer
models or third-party solutions. Desktop PCs have been upgraded, or swapped
to noncritical uses.

``In our view, only 10 percent of the difficulty lies in IT (Information
Technology). It is a problem, it is being treated, and it has been mainly
solved,'' Naseri said.

Iran's main air traffic control system has been certified Y2K compliant by
international experts. And foreign military attaches say they are satisfied
with the safety of Iran's missiles and other advanced weaponry.

Boeing and Airbus, chief suppliers to Iran Air, have guaranteed their
aircraft as ready. But doubts remain about the Russian-built marine fleet.
As a precaution, the oil ministry has ordered all liquid fuel tanks at
Iran's power plants, which generally run on natural gas, to be filled ahead
of Jan. 1.

Health workers are concerned that some high-tech medical devices may
stumble, a 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SPOTLIGHT EMAIL NEWSLETTER #32

1999-12-02 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-12-01 11:13:22 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In fact, Wall Street=92s private banks are estimated to hide an eye-popping
$21.5 trillion in such deviously deodorized deposits, according to an
unpublished estimate by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and
Development (OECD), the prestigious international economic monitor.

WHY?

Why does such vast wealth go underground? The Citibank executives at the
Senate hearing could offer only halting and lame explanations to that
question, arguing that some very affluent clients feared being "kidnapped"
or "extorted" if their riches were publicly displayed.

="That's nonsense," snorted Thalmann. "Such deep secrecy is not contrived to
hide wealth from "kidnappers." It is meant to hide these trillions from the
law.

Which implies that the SECRETLY super-rich are considerably wealthier than
those KNOWN to be super-rich -- just as the global "underground economy" of
drugs, arms, prostitution, and murder is much larger than the total GNP of
all nations combined ...

What percentage, I wonder, of the bankers' profits --providing global
moneychangers with the wherewithal to enslave nations and whole populations--
is a return on their "off the record" investment in injustice, in EVIL?  10
percent?  50 percent?  90 percent?

So, what's the current "highest bidder" price-tag for the lives of SIX
BILLION slaves?

How long, under Capitalism, before ONE MAN can afford to purchase the whole
lot?

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Re: [CTRL] Project Megiddo: Criminalizing Dissent

1999-12-02 Thread Das GOAT

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Seattle -- 30 days to Y2K.

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[CTRL] COINTELPRO in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Dave

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Read this.
See if anyone can get hold of  CBS (KIRO) affiliate reporter named Meagan
Black, and or copy of the broadcast.
Most of us are aware that FBI COINTELPRO is famous for undermining activists
with agents provocateur.  (or land-mining them, like Judi Bari)
This CBS broadcast is evidence.

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave

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  Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:42:53 -0800
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  Subject: [TheFrogPond] Battle in Seattle: 'Anarchists' ruin the message

  From: "Deuce" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Let me first start by saying that I think the media here in Seattle have
  covered the protests here very fairly. They have voiced the concerns
raised
  by the people in the streets. It doesn't appear to be the case with
national
  media.

  That said, something strange is happening here. The VAST majority of
  protesters and demonstrators in our streets have been extremely well
behaved
  and non-violent. But there is a small faction of criminals that are
  overshadowing this peaceful demonstration. Calling themselves
"Anarchists",
  the black-clad hooded idiots have been allowed to run amuck in our city,
  smashing in windows, upturning newspaper boxes, smashing up cars,
attacking
  members of the press and spraying graffiti everywhere. Our local CBS
(KIRO)
  affiliate had an on scene reporter named Meagan Black who followed this
  criminal band around the streets for more than two hours. Where were the
  police during all this? They were busy gassing the NON-VIOLENT crowds!!!
I
  can't tell you how many times we heard Ms. Black asking why aren't the
  police doing anything about this! Why haven't these jerks been arrested?
  Something fishy going on when the cops gas peaceful people and allow
  criminals to have free reign.

  The city went into a state of civil emergency. A curfew was implemented
in
  downtown Seattle. The National Guard and 300 state troopers have been
called
  in. The Mayor has vowed that what happened today will not be allowed to
  continue. The crowds have been pushed out of the downtown up into the
  residential areas. Massive amounts a tear gas are being thrown into the
  crowds and it's getting into people's homes. All this because of a small
  group of jerks who stole the spotlight from the real protestors.

  Their violence has stolen the spotlight from the real message that was
meant
  to take place here, and it's very sad, and more than a little bit
suspicious.

  -Deuce
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Re: [CTRL] Contrails

1999-12-02 Thread C Davis

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That happened here a few weeks ago...I got the flu. This was just one
planehigher than I have ever seen one before. The contrail stretched
across the sky.

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[CTRL] Woodstock, Dead of Natural Causes or MURDERED?

1999-12-02 Thread Das GOAT

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 My boss just recounted to me what he had learned watching a TV
"rockumentary" about Altamont featuring Hunter S. Thompson.

 We're all familiar with the media's depiction of the Stones concert at
Altamont, imprinting our mass-minds with its iconesque image of Hells Angels
savagely knifing an innocent concertgoer in view of the stage while "Sympathy
for the Devil" was played.
The image has been immortalized in Life magazine and the video of the
unprovoked murder has been repeated identically in all documentaries.
 "There goes the Sixties -- aborted by its own conceit, suicided by its
own excess,"
goes the party line refrain, always offering this photo-byte as evidence for
that claim.

 Well, surprise, surprise!  The portrait, as presented to the public eye,
was a LIE.

 In the TV documentary, according to what I'm told, it was revealed that
the photo and video which is a cornerstone of '60s "history" was only a
misleading EXCERPT from a FULLER sequence of events -- a sequence of events
which in fact had been recorded on film IN TOTO, but which was deliberately
EXCLUDED from visual reports of the incident by the Establishment media --
because the WHOLE story, thus revealed, would not have supported the media's
HIDDEN AGENDA, which was to forever "demonize" the "Woodstock generation" in
the collective mind.

 What had happened was this -- the "innocent victim" killed by the
Rolling Stones' bodyguards, the Hells Angels, had headed toward the
performers' stage with GUN DRAWN (caught on film) and, coming closer, had
FIRED SEVERAL SHOTS in the air
(also caught on film) -- and THEN, and only then, came the "attack" publicly
shown by the media -- out of context, minus every event preceding it which
might JUSTIFY it.

 Just goes to show you how ONE "frame" shown out of SEQUENCE can tell a
totally different story than what what we would realize from being allowed to
see the WHOLE sequence -- the factual record left INTACT, nothing DELETED,
nothing "SELECTED."

 But, of course, from such icon-esque "Life magazine"-style images
presented to the viewer comes the viewer's EMOTIONAL RESPONSE to it -- his or
her "judgment" of it, helping shape his or her "moral values."  The "artist"
always shapes his "art" according to the desired effect it will produce in
the observer -- and never forget, PROPAGANDA (or "mind control") is as much
an "art" as a "science, especially in our age of "media."

 Our collective mind has its "unconscious" too -- composed of all those
"unknown" perceptible FACTS which have been EXCLUDED by a behind-the-scenes
censorship of what might otherwise become a part of our consciousness, hence
of our conscience, and shape our view of history DIFFERENTLY, in a way closer
to the terrible TRUTH ...

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Re: [CTRL] WTO, Sleepless in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread nessie

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The task is not to join them at the table but to overturn the table.

If violence is not a wholly appropriate method for dealing with people who
exploit slave labor, then the American Civil War was a mistake.

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[CTRL] Fwd: All the Violence [Collection of posts]

1999-12-02 Thread nessie

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I have been watching the news on several channels about the WTO protests
and I hear everyone talking about all the violence but it sure looks
like its the cops doing it not the protesters. On all the news networks
and cable news too I saw the same Starbucks get broken into and some
graffiti along with an industrial dumpster on fire. I did hear news
readers talk of damage done to a Gaps and a Nike store but they should
have been prepared since they are both long standing targets. The Gap
due to their owners connection to the deforrestation of the headwaters
in Ca. and Nike for its human rights abuses.
I did not see any protesters beating up cops or firing tear gas or
rubber bullets at them. No as usual it was the cops doing the violence
to an otherwise peaceful but determined group of civilians.

 From: x

 Subject: (en) undercover police assault youth! -- report from seattle
via indy media


below is a text intro for a realaudio report. go to:

http://216.173.206.96/imc

to hear the full report.
Undercover Police Assault Youth
by Robby Herbst 6:38pm Wed Dec 1 '99

Police Targeting WTO Protesters: Witness Janet
Christenson records three undercover men dressed in
camo  army jackets knock down and beat two idle
protesters at 3rd  Union. Two uniformed officers hold back
observers while protesters (one bleeding) are handcuffed
and removed from the scene.



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[CTRL] FDA Contradicted Own Experts in Approving Genetically Engineered Foods

1999-12-02 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Lawsuit Uncovers Disagreement Within FDA Over Safety of Biotech Foods
Agency Contradicted Own Experts in Approving Genetically Engineered Foods
Misrepresented Facts in Order to Promote U.S. Biotech Industry

Statement by Steven M. Druker, JD, executive director of the Alliance for
Bio-Integrity, coordinator of the lawsuit against the FDA to obtain
mandatory safety testing and labeling of genetically engineered foods, and
an attorney on the case (in collaboration with the legal department of the
Center for Food Safety in Washington, D.C.)

Prying Out the Facts Through Litigation

In May 1998, a coalition of public interest groups, scientists, and
religious leaders filed a landmark lawsuit against the U.S. Food and Drug
Administration to obtain mandatory safety testing and labeling of all
genetically engineered foods (Alliance for Bio-Integrity, et. al. v.
Shalala). Nine eminent life scientists joined the coalition in order to
emphasize the degree to which they think FDA policy is scientifically
unsound and morally irresponsible. Now, the FDA's own files confirm how
well-founded are their concerns. The FDA was required to deliver copies of
these files--totalling over 44,000 pages--to the plaintiffs' attorneys.

Full story:  http://www.biointegrity.org/FDADeception.html

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[CTRL] Active Trans - WTO Emergency Report - Seattle, the second day

1999-12-02 Thread nessie

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Active Transformation is an anarchist collective with members in Detroit
and
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Active Transformation
Emergency Alert - Thursday November 2nd 1999

400 Arrested
Seattle Under Martial Law

By Shaun,

Authorities late Tuesday decided that the protesters, which at times
numbered some 50,000 strong, would not shutdown the World Trade
Organization
Conference for another day.   The Governor of Washington declared a state
of
emergency Tuesday night as thousands of protestors trashed corporate stores
throughout the city center.  The protests turned increasingly ugly after
police indiscriminately fired tear gas and shot rubber bullets at the
massive crowds passive protestors earlier in the day.

A curfew was established for 7 p.m. Tuesday night.  The National Guard was
sent in and fought protestors throughout the night to secure a 52 block,
"no
protest zone," around the conference site.

On Wednesday, protestors were greeted with the National Guard and hundreds
of officers from around the state.  Over 400 people had been arrested or
taken in to custody by 3:00 p.m.

Cracking Down

Police didn't discriminate with the crack down on Wednesday.  They arrested
protestors who had taken over intersections on the outskirts of the "no
protest zone" and tear-gassed a 4,000-person march by the teamsters.
Activists from Detroit and Lansing, including members of Active
Transformation, were detained at a nonviolent protest outside the "no
protest zone."  They have been held in a city bus, with no bathroom, since
early afternoon on Wednesday.  Police have denied them the right to see a
lawyer and they have refused to leave the bus until this right is granted.
We have heard reports of those in jail, refusing to show ID or identify
themselves, have been beaten and had pepper spray applied to their eyes.

Martial Law

On Monday and Tuesday, the protesters had complete control of the streets
of
Seattle.  Protesters packed 50,000 into the downtown area, making it
impossible for any of the delegates to get to the convention site or out of
their hotels.  Effectively shutting down the WTO talks for the first two
days.

Police engaged in a kind of turf war, trying to clear intersections and
disperse thousands of non-violent protesters, by firing chemical irritants
into the air and firing rubber bullets.  However the police were far under
prepared for the hostility and property damage unleashed by the protesters,
who after being tear-gassed, destroyed the Gap, Starbucks, Nike Town and
dozens of other corporate stores.


Next Article
Anarchist Response to World Trade Organization

By Steve,

This article in not meant to be a history or theoretical discussion of what
the WTO is.  In the coming weeks there will be plenty of discussion about
the World Trade Organization.  This short article is meant to put forth an
anarchist understanding of what's wrong with the WTO and how we want to
move
beyond it.

Firstly it is important that we understand that this international body
called the World Trade Organization is designed by capitalists to help them
make more money.  The so-called "democracy's" so many of us embrace are
just
a mechanism to make us feel like we're in control.  It is a tool for the
manufacture of consent, which is much more powerful form of control - than
violence.  So when we criticize the WTO for not being democratic, we
shouldn't be surprised - there is very little that is democratic about
capitalism.  What we should be surprised by is the lack of a "democratic
charade".  I guess they have just gotten used to nobody paying much
attention.

As we have argued before - we are engaged in a class war.  The enemy
(bosses, politicians, etc.) has many tools in their arsenal to use against
working people and the poor (not that there is much of a distinction
between
the two).  The WTO is just another weapon in the capitalist toolbox.  Its
job is to limit the "excesses of democracy".  What this means is that when
some flaw in the "democracy" allows people to make a law that interferes
with business - it can be overturned.  This is being pushed by our
"democratic" dictator Bill Clinton.  And because a few people pulled the
lever for him three years ago Americans are supposed to feel that he
represents their democratic will. What a joke!

Much of the debate around globalization and the WTO is wrongly focused on
propping up the nation-state system.  We believe this is a fatal flaw.  As
stated above, there is nothing democratic about our  "democratic"
nation-states.  The problem isn't that our national sovereignty is being
violated - the problem is corporations and politicians run the world in
their own benefit.  They wage class war against us and fool us into

Re: [CTRL] Woodstock, Dead of Natural Causes or MURDERED?

1999-12-02 Thread nessie

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Just goes to show you how ONE "frame" shown out of SEQUENCE can tell a
totally different story than what what we would realize from being allowed
to see the WHOLE sequence -- the factual record left INTACT, nothing
DELETED, nothing "SELECTED."

An interesting and relevent comparison is the Zapgruder film in which the
two most crucial frames were reversed while in federal custody.

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[CTRL] ZNet -- Seattle is the Center of the World ... [LPA]

1999-12-02 Thread nessie

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  A - I N F O S  N E W S  S E R V I C E
http://www.ainfos.ca/
 

A Brief Comment: What's Happening in Seattle and Why
By Michael Albert

Ballpark 50-100,000 demonstrators assembled in Seattle. They are
farmersand industrial workers, unionists and environmentalists, young and
old, men and women, from the U.S. and from the third world, and they are
angry and their target is the WTO, and thus also oppressive world trade,
and thus also, just a minor step beyond, the market system and capitalism
itself. They are there to raise social costs to elites by their actions on

the scene and by therepercussions for continuing organizing around the
world (75,000 today de monstrated in France, for example) to curtail or
better to close down the WTO agenda.

So what do you do if you are in charge of the City and have Clinton due in
town imminently and the whole world, literally, watching? What's the elite
strategy?

(1) You can sit back and be nice and allow the demonstrators to move freely
and make their points and develop confidence and grow in number and size
and, most important, in their mutual solidarity, with more people arriving
every hour, and education and outreach blossoming each day.

Or (2) you can try and break the thing up, quickly, even if at great risk
should you fail.

From early reports it seems that the powers that be decided that to leave

hands off was a recipe for sure disaster. They likely envisioned the
specter of growing numbers, growing willingness to do civil disobedience,
and worst of all, growing solidarity between diverse sectors and outreach
to new constituencies, and realized that throughout the country and world
this would send a message that dissent can restrain the state. They didn't

like that picture.

Their other option _ the usual favorite choice of U.S. elites _ is to try
to
bust up opposition by using as much force as they can get away with.
Theidea in this case is to send an immediate message that being in Seattle

as a demonstrator means braving gas, truncheons, and rubber bullets, at
least. The police and media try to together get the less mobile and less
militant demonstrators to leave, depressed or angry. Then the thinned
ranks can be herded away from the WTO buildings and arrested or banished.

Judging by early reports I'm guessing that_s the elite plan. The tactics
are very typical _ intimidating costumes, quick and eager but still for
the moment limited violence, curfews, provocations to get demonstrator
(or town citizen) actions that one can complain are the source of the
repression. Provoke a little violence, repress it, in due course, with a
lot.
..

The demonstrator reaction will hopefully be not to fracture but
instead to generate more and more organization, discipline, and steadfast
solidarity and militance in marching, and, when need be, in committing
non-violent civil disobedience.

What will happen?

No one can possibly know, of course. But if you are in Seattle I think the
thing to try to affect is whether Seattle's citizens -- its cab drivers,
its bus drivers, its small shop keepers, its folks on the street -- become
sympathetic to the demonstrators or even outright supportive of them, and
whether the union and other more mainstream demonstrators align with the
street demonstrations and continuing marches and rallies, telling the
Seattle police that their opposition is workers like themselves, and angry

ones at that. This is already an important event. If alliance and
solidarity can be forged, it will be historic.

Here are some sites where you can get excellent up to the minute
information to pass along to others to build support for the demonstrators
and opposition fo the WTO:

ZNet's Global/WTO Watch -- Direct from the scene reports and
analysis--plus contextual reports and in depth materials from Z Magazine's

writers and beyond--and you can post your own reports, as well:

http://www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/Globalism/GlobalEcon.htm

The Seattle Indy News Center -- on the ground, on the scene, with audio,
video, and print reports:

http://www.indymedia.org/

Democracy Now -- Amy Goodman reports with noted guests on the scene on
events in Seattle and their meaning:

http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/demnow.html

World Trade Watch Radio -- Live reports from Seattle with Julie Light and
Norman Solomon and their guests:

http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/demnow.html

Global Exchange's Democratize the Global Economy -- Analysis and context:

http://www.globalexchange.org/

Corporate Watch's WTO Coverage -- Analysis of corporations and their role
in society focused on the WTO:

http://www.corpwatch.org/feature/index.html

Food First -- Food politics in general and regarding the WTO:

http://www.foodfirst.org/

The Preamble Center: A research project into the U.S. economy...with
special
coverage of the WTO:

http://www.preamble.org/


Re: [CTRL] Contrails

1999-12-02 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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 It's happening here now and almost everyone I know in the last week has had
a cold, cough, sore throat etc including myself... This is nuts.

Jamie

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That happened here a few weeks ago...I got the flu. This was just one
planehigher than I have ever seen one before. The contrail stretched
across the sky.

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[CTRL] OEN 12/2/99

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe/A
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World Trade Organization


Clinton Sucks Buchanan Wind


Uses WTO to garner labor votes for Gore.

Bill Clinton, the US president, yesterday threatened to plunge the World
Trade Organisation into turmoil by demanding it should incorporate core
labour standards in trade agreements and eventually use sanctions to enforce
them.

Mr Clinton's call, on his arrival at the WTO ministerial meeting in Seattle,
went much further than existing US policy. It will anger developing countries
- four-fifths of the WTO's membership - which condemn as disguised
protectionism western efforts to link trade with labour standards.

Supachai Panitchpakdi, Thailand's deputy prime minister and director-general
designate of the WTO, said having trade sanctions on labour rights in the
organisation would be "highly detrimental". Mr Clinton's proposal could
frustrate the launch of a trade round and cause some developing countries to
walk away from the table.

However, US officials quickly emphasised that Mr Clinton had only been
talking about US long-term goals. "He was expressing an ultimate goal not an
immediate negotiating objective in the WTO."

The president's remarks appeared aimed at satisfying US labour unions, led by
the AFL-CIO, whose support for vice-president Al Gore and other Democratic
candidates at next year's elections is considered crucial.

About 25,000 union demonstrators marched through Seattle on Tuesday to demand
the WTO should enforce labour standards. They were by far the most numerous
of the protesters, who ranged from environmentalists to human rights and
consumer activists. Much of the city centre was plunged into chaos when they
took to the streets but calm returned yesterday.

Mr Clinton told a Seattle newspaper: "What we ought to do first of all is to
adopt the US position on having a working group on labour within the WTO, and
then that working group should develop these core labour standards, and then
they ought to be part of every trade agreement, and ultimately I would favour
a system in which sanctions would come for violating any provision of a trade
agreement." Until now, the US has suggested only that the WTO should create a
working group to analyse links between trade and core labour standards such
as prohibition of child and prison labour. Many developing, and some
industrialised, countries say even this limited proposal is unacceptable.

Britain was yesterday trying to head off a confrontation over labour rights
by trying to rally developing countries behind a compromise proposal. Based
on an EU proposal, it calls for the World Bank to join the WTO and the
International Labour Organisation in setting up a standing joint committee on
labour standards.

The Financial Times, December 2, 1999


Digital Society


Murdoch Tells Governments to Get Off Internet


Empowering ordinary people.

OXFORD, England (Reuters) - Media tycoon Rupert Murdoch sealed his conversion
to the Internet Wednesday, painting a picture of a bright technological
future hampered only by natural disasters and -- worse still -- meddling
governments.

He told Oxford University students in a lecture that the Internet was a
revolutionary liberator of the individual that would sweep away rather than
deepen social inequality and meet all our needs.
The head of News Corp., who until this year had a cautious approach to
business on the World Wide Web, said the valuation of Internet companies such
as Yahoo and AOL was ``sometimes mystifying.''

But he said such high values were easier to grasp if one believed, as he
appeared to, that the Internet's value would grow exponentially once enough
people were online.
``I am not among those who fear that new technology will widen the gap
between rich and poor,'' he told students at the university where he studied
-- with, he confessed, a bust of Lenin in his rooms -- in the long-ago 1950s.

``We are not headed to a world in which the rich will have access to
computers and related technology while the poor muddle along computerless.
The new technologies are becoming widely available.''

Murdoch said the Internet empowers ordinary people by giving them knowledge
others previously had hoarded.

He predicted a strong future for new and existing trusted brand names that
people, burdened by unparalleled choice, would turn to for the information
and goods they needed.

Hoping to ensure his News Corp. is among them, Murdoch this year entered a
major partnership with Japan's Softbank Corp. to invest in Internet
companies, signaling he was embracing the revolution.

``Take A Holiday At Your Peril''

The 68-year-old, who saw the maintenance or mechanical preservation of the
brain as the next achievable challenge, said the new era had come upon the
business world with blinding speed.
``In my own business, change is so rapid that you take a holiday at your
peril. 

[CTRL] Seattle scanner online

1999-12-02 Thread Dan S

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Online Seattle police scanner: pnm://real.mp.intervu.net/scannerlive_sea
(Load into Real Audio)

Channels #WTO and #seattle on Efnet IRC are active during the evening hours.

--
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Re: [CTRL] Seattle scanner online

1999-12-02 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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Thanks!

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Online Seattle police scanner: pnm://real.mp.intervu.net/scannerlive_sea
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Channels #WTO and #seattle on Efnet IRC are active during the evening hours.

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[CTRL] Y2K Plans?

1999-12-02 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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http://syninfo.com/ian/PRIVATE/1999/12/01/1999120121250955.html

 \\|//
(o o)
oOOo-(_)-oOOo

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3 - 12/02/99

1999-12-02 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 991202c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* Little international trade was involved in production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ The World Is Bound With Secret Knots: http://mjt.org/exhibits/magnes.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# UK ESTABLISHES PANEL TO INVESTIGATE ASTEROID THREAT. In an effort to begin
  collaboration to protect the Earth from the threat of asteroid impact, the
  UK Govt has set up a special panel. Science Minister Lord Sainsbury wants
  to establish the govt's stance on the issue, and has organized a team to
  give him the answers he needs. It's estimate that an asteroid large enough
  to end humanity hits once every 100,000 to million years. Any time now:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_541000/541376.stm

: Would you like to join the Society For The Prevention Of Earthquakes? Can
your committee influence subplanetary motions? Where'd you get that power??

@ Ancient History of UFOs. -- UFO reports date back to the early
  Egyptians; see paintings  statues of alien-like craft  occupants.
  http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/ufoancient.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# IS THE US CONGRESS ANTI-CATHOLIC? Controversy is no stranger to the poli-
  tically divided House, but even by recent standards, the latest flare-up
  is unusual - a battle over the selection of a new chaplain to minister to
  lawmakers and their families. And they aren't even *considering* Mormons:
  http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Dec1999/120299/anticatholic120299.htm

: What religions would you like to establish in your legislative assemblies?
Should all religions be so established? Should lawmakers be ministered by
Discordians, Anabaptists, Satanists, preachers of Daniel Christ, Moonies??

@ The Exposed Plan of The Freemasons - FOR ALL TO SEE AGAIN - Concerning the
  Catholic Church - http://www.iol.ie/~magnific/magnific/fr_mason.html#top
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ In the rain forest of the Cameroon in West Central Africa lives the floor
  dwelling ant Megaloponera foetens, the stink ant. This large ant - one of
  the very few to produce a cry audible to the human ear - forages for food
  among fallen leaves  undergrowth of the extraordinarily rich rain forest
  floor. On occasion one of these ants, while looking for food is infected
  by inhaling a microscopic spore from a fungus of the genus Tomentella.
  After being inhaled, the spore seats in the ant's tiny brain and begins to
  grow, causing changes in the ant's patterns of behavior. The Ant appears
  troubled and confused; for the first time in its life the ant leaves the
  forest floor and begins to climb. Driven on by the growth of the fungus,
  the ant embarks on a long  exhaustive climb. Completely spent and having
  reached a prescribed height, the ant impales the plant with its mandibles.
  Thus affixed, the ant waits to die. Ants that have met their ends in this
  fashion are quite common in some areas of the forest. The fungus continues
  to consume first the nerve cells  finally all soft tissues of the ant.
  After approximately 2 weeks a spike appears from what had been the head of
  the ant. This spike is about an 1.5 inches long and has a bright orange
  tip heavy with spores which rain down onto the rain forest floor for other
  unsuspecting ants to inhale. http://www.mjt.org/exhibits/stinkant.htm

: Have you consumed any spores lately? Is a fungus growing in your brain?
Are you part of a symbiotic human-fungal cycle? Are alien implants really
biotech spores that alter our mental behaviour? Do they evolve further??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Timothy McVeigh's mom: Hey, I didn't do it! The bomber's mom says it's
  time to move on and she has no words for victims' families in Oklahoma.
  "What can I say? I didn't do it. I didn't blow the building up." What's
  the big deal? -- more people die in plane crashes, she says. "Everybody
  thought it was the crime of the century. Well, it's not." Just ordinary
  everyday terrorism: http://www.denverpost.com/bomb/bomb120299.htm

# Fears of a fascist revival in Europe are unfounded. Our fixation with
  the Nazis prevents a grasp of a new kind of right wing. Seig heil:
  http://www.thenewrepublic.com/magazines/tnr/121399/trb121399.html
# Hungry hamster invades Shoney's salad bar - teenaged skinhead loosed the
  beast in the broccoli bin: http://dailymail.com/news/News/1999120122/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# John Travolta's Alien Notion. MONTREAL (WPost) Something otherworldly is
  happening inside Hangar 12, something they're trying to keep secret. But
  we can tell you this: John Travolta is involved, and so are space aliens.
  Soldiers have secured the perimeter. "Warning: This establishment is under
  permanent 

Re: [CTRL] Banned Bush Bio

1999-12-02 Thread sno0wl

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On 30 Nov 99, at 19:44, William Shannon wrote:

 Hatfield followed up the story through sources close to Bush,
who had
 helped with other earlier sections of his book. They confirmed to
him
 that the basis of the story was indeed true, but Bush had not
been sent
 to work at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center. Instead
his
 community service was performed in Project P.U.L.L, of which
his father,
 George Bush, was a "benevolent supporter".

I wonder how Hatfield's sources are doing in their chosen careers.
Are they still alive



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Re: [CTRL] Seattle and Beyond--Prudy

1999-12-02 Thread sno0wl

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On 25 Nov 99, at 1:50, Mario Profaca wrote:

 SEATTLE AND BEYOND:
 DISARMING THE NEW WORLD ORDER

 by Michel Chossudovsky

 Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and author of
The
 Globalization of Poverty, Impacts of IMF and World Bank
Reforms, Third
 World Network, Penang and Zed Books, London, 1997.


Wow!!!  Thanks Prudy.
sno0wl
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[CTRL] FW: The Best of the IMC in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


Non-Corporate Real News From the Independent Media Center in Seattle

IMC Daily Digest: The Seattle Lockdown
December 1, 1999

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Anti-WTO protestors have shut Seattle down.

While a 'state of emergency' clamps down on the city for the
second night, the people's newsroom at the Independent Media
Center is buzzing. Over 400 IMC media producers are now collaborating
to post, uplink, and print their stories of protest, analysis,
outrage, and hope.

Armed with cell phones, laptop computers, tape recorders, cameras,
and a shoestring budget, media activists are using the Centerís
website at www.indymedia.org to broadcast their stories. Video
interviews and street footage are edited and uplinked to satellite,
and articles are being published in The Blind Spot daily.

While protests continue and brutal police tactics remain unchecked,
the IMC continues to receive live reports from its video, print,
audio, and photo teams despite a 7 pm curfew. In this, the first
of the Independent Media Centerís daily digests, you can see,
hear or read stories being produced by the IMC collective:

Photo: Confrontation at 4th and Pike, 3:30pm PST
by gazette webcam
4:54pm Tue Nov 30 '99
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=146

Article: Turtles and Teamsters Unite Against Patent on Life
by Sue Ellen White
7:22pm Wed Dec 1 '99
Patents on life itself already exist and a teach-in today featuring
Ralph Nader aimed to mobilize farmers, environmentalists, labor,
scientists, and citizens against the WTO's agreements on intellectual
property.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=267

Article: Arrested Refuse to Comply with Booking
by Ben Grad
11:48pm Wed Dec 1 '99
More than 450 arrested, and a seriously significant majority
is both refusing to give their info, they won't get off the buses.

http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=284

Audio: Cell Phone Interview with Arrestees
by Asha Confer
7:27pm Wed Dec 1 '99
Hear a cell phone conversation with arrestees waiting to be processed
at Sandpoint Naval Base.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=268

Photo: Police Gas Protesters
by the phantom
11:26pm Wed Dec 1 '99
Protesters sit in an intersection in downtown Seattle, some using
wet handkerchiefs to shield their faces.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=283

Article: Police Aggression Aimed at Nonviolent Protesters
by Janet Berkow
11:07pm Wed Dec 1 '99
At 6th and Union early Tuesday morning, a group of more than
50 protesters sat at the intersection, intending to block traffic.
The police, heavily armed and in riot gear, were grimly bound
to make them move.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=281

Article: Sub-Lethal Weapons Hit the Streets
by Steven Bodzin
10:56pm Tue Nov 30 '99
As protesters blocked the streets, the police responded with
overwhelming force, using the latest sub-lethal weapons.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=170

Photo: When They Kick Down Your Front DoorÖ.
by Greg Ruggiero
7:06pm Mon Nov 29 '99
Aftershoot of French Farmers' Demo, Monday afternoon, Nov. 29

http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=59

Article: Independent Media Center Under Siege!
by David Murphy and David Potter
9:08pm Tue Nov 30 '99
Police attack reporters as they try to enter the Independent
Media Center.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=158

Audio: Dr.Vendana Shiva Addresses the Diverse Women for Diversity

by Sue Supriano
3:27am Tue Nov 30 '99
On Monday, November 29, 1999, Dr. Vendana Shiva, co-founder of
Diverse Women for Diversity, Director of the Research Foundation
for Science, Technology and Ecology addressed the Celebration
of Our Planet's Fabulous Diversity of Food and Agriculture. She
is introduced by Anuradha Mittal, Program Director of Food First
(USA) Approximatley 5 minutes.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=87

Audio: Building Trades and the WTO
by Peter Miller, WEFT 90.1 FM Champaign, IL
12:52pm Mon Nov 29 '99
Interview with Fred Hirsch of Plumbers Local 393 in silicon valley.
Hirsch explains why working people whose jobs don't depend directly
on trade should be concerned about the WTO. (4 mins 11 secs).
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=42

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Re: [CTRL] Seattle scanner online

1999-12-02 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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  Ahhh man, I'm not getting anything but bums and thugs stuff.  Nothing on
the WTO situation.

Jamie

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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Seattle scanner online


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Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Dan S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CTRL] Seattle scanner online


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Online Seattle police scanner: pnm://real.mp.intervu.net/scannerlive_sea
(Load into Real Audio)

Channels #WTO and #seattle on Efnet IRC are active during the evening hours.

--
Dan S

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[CTRL] NH GOPhers Debate**Tonight** 8PM Fox

1999-12-02 Thread BARD

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Join FoxNews.com at 8 p.m. on Thursday, Dec. 2 for
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[CTRL] [1] Death Beat

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from;
Death Beat
Maria Jimena Duzan©1994
Peter Eisner, translator
HarperCollins
ISBN 0-06-017057-3
282 pps. – first/only edition – out-of-print
--[1]--
7
VIAFARA'S HELL

The power plant shuts down at 11 pm. in Puerto Boyaca, bathing the town in
shifting shadows of gas lanterns and occasional car lights.

The shouts and screams would start soon after the lights went out. Bands of
vigilantes, known as "self-defense squads," would begin their rounds in
search of guerrilla collaborators. The shrieks and cries were interspersed
with the staccato sounds of gunfire. No one dared to go out at night. The
streets were deserted and houses were shuttered. And for the past month, the
bodies of murdered peasants were again floating down the Magdalena river. The
smell of rotting flesh in the night air made it impossible to sleep.

The night of January 29, 1984, Diego Viafara heard the sound of a, vehicle
pulling up to his house. He had just enough time to call to his wife, telling
her to grab their daughter and hide.

Four hooded men broke down the door and dragged him out of the house. He was
blindfolded and thrown into the back of a camper van. Soon he could hear the
sounds of the river. He must be near the banks of the Magdalena. He knew
nothing else.

After a while, the van stopped. The men dragged him out and brought him into
a hut where the smell of coffee was strong. Despite the blindfold, he could
see shadows, bathed in moonlight, of people standing around him. The men
walked him to an armchair, let him sit down, and took off the blindfold.
 He was surrounded.

"Who are you?" demanded one of the kidnappers, jabbing the barrel of his
rifle into Viafara's shoulder.

"I'm Diego Viafara. I've lived here for a few months with my wife and
daughter."

"Liar. You are M-19," said one of his captors, spitting out each word.

At first Viafara would admit nothing. But to his dismay, his captors already
knew much about him. It was true; Diego Viafara had been a member of M-19. He
was a doctor with a guerrilla contingent in Cali under the command of
Rosenberg Pabon an important rebel leader. He said he had studied medicine at
Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow, an institution dedicated to sponsoring
leftists from Third World countries. Upon returning to Colombia in 1979 he
immediately joined M-19, providing health and first-aid services to peasants
and rebels in M-19 territory.

In mid-1981 he moved with other rebels to the Magdalena Medio river valley to
link up with FARC. But FARC was operating on the run, and it took him months
to establish contact. All the while he was being tracked by rightist
self-defense squads.

When these squads' periodic harassment became more menacing, he sought refuge
in a Catholic church. But even the church walls were not enough to protect
him for long. The local parish priest counseled Viafara to take advantage of
an amnesty declared by the government of President Belisario Betancur in
1983. "Turn yourself in, hand in your weapons, and all will be forgiven," the
priest told him. On December 29, 1983, he did so. Feeling a new sense of
protection, he emerged from hiding and went to live in a small house in
Puerto Boyaca.

Puerto Boyaca is nestled in the Magdalena river valley, a jungle region
located in central-western Colombia where the tributaries of the Magdalena
join, creating a web of marshlands and small islets in one of the loveliest
and richest ecosystems in the country. The majestic and impenetrable jungle
vegetation makes access nearly impossible; as in other mountainous and jungle
sections of Colombia, the government's presence and control is almost nil.

The development of the region reflects the problems that many rural sections
of Colombia suffered in the 1960s with the growth of the guerrilla movements.
One of the great problems of Magdalena Medio was that it hardly had been part
of Colombia since 1929, when oil was discovered and the entire region was
sold to Texaco. The United States-owned oil company had land and subsoil
rights, and there was little official Colombian presence. Things began to
change in the 1950s when shifting migrations within the country brought
squatters and violence. Texaco fought these squatters' occupation of its
lands for a time, and then finally sold the territory back to Colombia in
1959. Yet the government's presence was sporadic and usually came in the form
of repression via the army-officials sent troops to protect wealthy
landowners who were given rights to the best land against peasant farmers who
had no legal right to the land they tilled. The peasants had no choice but to
flee inland, where the soil was inferior and where they could grow only
enough to barely survive. The constant repression of the peasants was the
social cauldron in which guerrilla organizations like FARC were able to
establish themselves. The guerrillas were often the only organized presence
the rural poor ever saw in these parts. In the 

[CTRL] [2] Death Beat

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from;
Death Beat
Maria Jimena Duzan©1994
Peter Eisner, translator
HarperCollins
ISBN 0-06-017057-3
282 pps. – first/only edition – out-of-print
--[2]--
8
AN INFORMANT AND HIS SECRETS

Viafara's sudden appearance was not the first time that El Espectador had
received this kind of visit. Although Viafara was by far the highest-level
and most knowledgeable person to approach us, many people came to the
newspaper claiming to have exclusive, ground-breaking information.

As early as 1987, El Espectador and Semana, as well as several television
news outlets, were publishing stories based on sources who spoke of an
alliance between the private militias and the cocaine bosses; these reports
flew in the face of an opposite claim that the drug bosses were in league
with the leftist guerrillas. That was the line propagated by the Colombian
military and spurred on by the U.S. ambassador to Colombia, Lewis A. Tambs.
On television, in weekly magazines, and in newspapers, there were occasional
reports of a supposed split between Rodriguez Gacha and FARC, which had been
protecting his coca fields and laboratories. The stories were systematically
denied by both the army and the militia groups themselves, who insisted on
referring to themselves as self-defense patrols.

At El Espectador I had written several reports about what was going on in
Magdalena Medio. Toward the end of 1988, several peasants from Magdalena
Medio, terrorized by the violence, came Gacha abreast of the government's
antinarcotics operations, quickly delivering secret briefings to him.

In an interview with one of them, we told a dramatic tale of a man whose
brother had been killed by the death squads. When the surviving brother
decided to place the case before a judge, the militias responded by
kidnapping his mother. Since then, the man could not go back to Puerto
Boyaca. "When I realized that justice had no meaning, even though we could
prove who had killed my brother-it was a sicario who was a member of the
Puerto Boyaca death squads—I decided to come to see you to get the story
out," the man said. "They are killing the peasants where I live. If you want
to go there, we should hang a sign around our necks with our names on it.
That way the militia will be able to check us out when we come to a
roadblock, to see if we're on the list of suspected 'sympathizers with the
guerrillas.' But we probably should put something else on the sign, something
like 'I'm not a Communist."'

I went to Magdalena Medio. The peasants showed me the roadblocks and the
militias manning them; the tacit support of the army was obvious. Our report
hit the streets of Bogota but didn't make it far in Puerto Boyaca. The
militias retaliated by blocking the distribution of El Espectador, seizing
deliveries of the newspaper at the local distributor in Magdalena Medio. Not
all newspapers received the same treatment, however. El Tiempo, whose
correspondent in Magdalena Medio was Pablo Guarin, a founding member of the
rightist militias, published a paid advertisement in July 1988 in which the
squads answered the charges in an open letter addressed to me.

The self-defense groups not only rejected any connection with the cocaine
bosses-they continue to reject the link to this daybut took credit for
improving the lot of the people living in Magdalena Medio.

"We invite the journalist Duzan to see with her own eyes the schools and the
new streets that have been paved in Puerto Boyaca, and to see further that
they are certainly not used any longer by international communism."

The letter was signed by the mayor of Puerto Boyaca, Luis Alfredo Rubio
Rojas. A year later, a judge would issue an arrest warrant against Rubio
Rojas, implicating him in one of the ongoing series of massacres of peasants.
Although Rubio Rojas was arrested, he was-set free in 1989 in a raid staged
by his comrades. Tioday, he is a fugitive from justice.

By 1989 the militias had managed to obtain a certain political currency in
the nation, especially in the zones where they had beaten back the guerrilla
groups. In 1988 the guerrillas had been forced to retreat, not in battles
with the regular army but with these drug-financed militias. The
"pacification" campaign conducted in Magdalena Medio had also been conducted
in other parts of the country, leading the militia squads to declare they
were winning the war on subversion. The steady stream of assassinations of
members of the Patriotic Union succeeded in sinking the leftist political
experiment. This was evident in popular mayoral elections in 1988, when the
Patriotic Union saw an ebbing of its support, more like a full-fledged sea
change, while the Liberal party began to retake positions it lost to its
leftist rivals in 1986.

Landowners were able to return to their lands, and the areas that had
suffered a strong economic depression were receiving an influx of drug money
that brought a certain newfound prosperity. The drug bosses and 

[CTRL] [3] Death Beat

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from;
Death Beat
Maria Jimena Duzan©1994
Peter Eisner, translator
HarperCollins
ISBN 0-06-017057-3
282 pps. – first/only edition – out-of-print
--[3]--
9
 ZERO HOUR

All the members of President Barco's cabinet entered the great rectangular
meeting room in the Narino palace at precisely 11:30 on the morning of August
18, 1989, and took their places around the large Guayacan-laminated
conference table reserved for the Council of Ministers. They looked toward
the empty seat at the center of the table, reserved, according to protocol,
for President Barco. Barco arrived promptly and launched into an announcement
in his customary distant yet straightforward manner:

"I want to inform you that a series of quite strong measures are being
studied in response to the critical situation we face in the country today.
And I want to sound out your opinions. I would, therefore, ask that none of
you leave the palace this afternoon because I'm preparing a speech for
television this evening and would like you to read it first."

He then directed one of his aides to start reading the decrees. There was a
nervous silence in the pale green room; the ministers could hear the sound of
each breath they took. The Colombian leaders, whose portraits hung on the
walls, were silent witnesses to this important occasion. This was to be one
of the longest and most difficult meetings in recent Colombian history.
Behind the president there was a portrait of Santander, known as the Man of
Laws and as the conspirator who plotted unsuccessfully to take the life of
Simon Bolivar, the Great Liberator.

Bolivar's portrait did not hang here but had a place of honor elsewhere in
the palace. Facing Santander were paintings of four of the fathers of
Colombian independence: Camilo Torres, Jose Joaquin Camacho, Francisco Jose
de Caldas, and Antonio Villavicencio. On the wall to the right there was a
striking painting by Alejandro Obregon, the well-known Colombian artist.
Entitled The Eagle of Violence, it depicts the destruction of the state under
siege, synthesizing in an eloquent way the brutality that had traumatized the
nation.

Already suspecting that something extraordinary was taking place, the
ministers realized quickly as the decrees were read to them that the measures
Barco was proposing were without precedent. They amounted to a veritable
declaration of war on drug terrorism.

One measure authorized the seizure and detention of anyone who was suspected
of dealing drugs or having committed acts of terrorism and the imprisonment
of such persons incommunicado for up to seven days. Another measure
authorized the seizure of the property of drug suspects, even before they
were found guilty of a crime. Anyone whose name fraudulently appeared as the
owner of any of these properties to hide the true owners would be punished
with a fine and up to ten years in prison.

Barco wanted to pull the rug out from under the drug dealers: to give more
latitude to the security forces to pressure suspects and to obtain
information without having to seek a court order to do so. The idea was to
force them out of the safety of their hidden sanctuaries and draw them into
the open. Barco's staff had scrutinized the decrees carefully, finding them
legally airtight.

But one decree had a specific intent all its own: The government would once
again allow the extradition of drug dealers to the United States. The drug
dealers had fought the resumption of extradition tooth and nail because it
meant they could be tried and probably receive long prison sentences in the
United States.

At least one person at the meeting had known about the decrees before the
meeting began. It was the young lawyer who was the newly appointed minister
of justice, Monica de Greiff. Monica was eighth in the rapid succession of
justice ministers in fourteen months, a turnover worthy of the Guinness Book
of World Records. She was the first woman justice minister in Colombian
history. "They named me because they were running out of justice ministers,"
said number seven, Guillermo Plazas Alcid, with a note of sarcasm. He lasted
only four months in the job.


De Greiff had been summoned prior to the general meeting by aides and given a
copy of the decrees for review. She scarcely had time to read them when the
president came into the antechamber, greeting her in his cold, stoic manner.
From behind his thick eyeglasses, he turned his gaze on de Greiff and asked,
"Do you think the Supreme Court can rule the extradition decree
unconstitutional in the manner it is presented here?"

"No," she said. "The decree in judicial terms is irrefutable."

The president said nothing. He moved on to another subject, saying that he
had called a full cabinet meeting at 11:30 A.M. to present the decrees. Then
he turned and walked out of the room.

It was a classic game of poker, with only his closest personal advisers in on
his strategy. Extradition was the ace up Barco's sleeve to be drawn 

[CTRL] Fwd: Spy chiefs make no secret of cash crisis

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan





Spy chiefs make no secret of cash crisis - [don't they alway's]

By MICHAEL CLARKE

Two spymasters  made an official plea for more money in the fight against 
the nation's enemies at home and abroad, it was revealed last night.

Stephen Lander and Richard Dearlove have told the Intelligence and Security 
Committee that cash shortages could seriously undermine their work.

Mr Lander is director general of M15 - responsible for tackling espionage, 
terrorism, and serious crime within Britain. He has told the committee in 
secret evidence sessions that his budget was too low to maintain the battle 
against organised crime.

Mr Dearlove, who as head of M16 is responsible for spying and 
counter-espionage abroad, echoed his call, saying the future would be 
'challenging'.

Chancellor Gordon Brown has given the agencies a secret three-year cash 
settlement, part of the £740-million total annual budget for intelligence 
and security work.

The influential committee heard that despite the settlement the two secret 
services risk running out of money within two years unless more cash is 
provided.

Former Defence Secretary Tom King, chairman of the committee wanted to 
publish the figures yesterday to show the scale of the problem. But Tony 
Blair overruled him and insisted they be kept under wraps because of their 
sensitive nature.

The espionage bosses warned that while they could cope for a while, by 2001 
their operations would struggle to stay effective.

M16 has already bought new computers to enable staff to move away from 
backroom tasks to front-line work.

Undercover agents are infiltrating cocaine rings run from Colombia and the 
heroin smuggling networks set up by Turkish gangs.

They track the drugs as they move from South America and Asia into Europe 
via Spain and Turkey before ending up for sale on British streets.

But their efforts risk being undermined by the cash squeeze.

M15 is facing similar problems, with a threat from breakaway IRA and 
loyalist terrorist groups and Islamic fundamentalists.

Also hit could be the operations to catch the 'godfathers' who run rackets 
in illegal immigrants.

Mr King said the figures for the two services were 'alarming' and needed to 
be reviewed. 'If these figures are real, they have got problems,' he added.

He also called for secret agents to be given new powers to break up 
organised crime rings outside Britain, instead of waiting for drugs and 
illegal immigrants to arrive at our ports and airports.
==
Daily Mail, Friday November 26, 1999




[CTRL] Fwd: abour's Money Men (UK Politics)

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan





Labour's Money Men (UK Politics)

By PAUL EASTHAM
Deputy Political Editor

LABOUR faced charges of hypocrisy last night after attacking the 
Conservatives for accepting £1-million from Belize-based tycoon Michael 
Ashcroft.

Senior Ministers claimed this week that the cash from a 'foreign donor' 
breached Tory rules, the Parliamentary sleazebuster's proposed reforms and 
planned laws on party funding.

But yesterday, close inspection of Labour documents showed Tony Blair's 
party has accepted cash from five rich donors who, just like Mr Ashcroft, 
live abroad yet are eligible to vote in Britain.

ROBERT EARL, founder of the Planet Hollywood hamburger chain, is top of the 
list. The world's richest restaurateur gave Labour £1-million in 1997 after 
Mr Blair was forced to hand a similar amount back to Formula One boss 
Bernie Ecclestone following the row over tobacco sponsorship.

Although the multi-millionaire, who also developed the Hard Rock Cafe 
chain, has lived in Orlando, Florida since the 1970s, he was born in 
London. That means he conforms to Labour's rule that only those eligible to 
vote here are allowed to contribute to the party.

As recently as 1993 he described himself as a Tory but he switched 
allegiance after advising Peter Mandelson on the Millennium Dome.

PETER B. GREEN, who presides over one of the world's great fortunes, is 
listed as giving 'more than £5,000' Yet the entrepreneur has been an 
expatriate for 23 years. Born into a hard-working family in a Manchester 
slum he married Tory heiress Mary-Jean Mitchell who once had hopes of 
marrying Prince Charles. Today he lives 'like a Sultan' on Marshall's 
Island in the tax haven of Bermuda but roves between homes on several 
continents using two private Gulfstream jets.
Switzerland and Liechtenstein are two more of the tax havens associated 
with his fortune.

HOWARD STRINGER is another donor listed as giving the party more than 
£5,000. The adroit, charming chairman of the Sony electronics and 
entertainment corporation in the US. is a former head of the mighty CBS. 
Welsh born, he lives in New York.
Wanting to return to Britain, he was a candidate for the BBC director 
generalship, which went to another Labour donor Greg Dyke.

FRANK LOWE, the international advertising guru, who was joint founder of PR 
consultancy Lowe-Howard-Spink, is also a £5,000-plus donor.

After a rogue  poll in the Week before the 1987 election, Margaret Thatcher 
called in Mr Lowe and Sir Tim Bell over the head of Saatchi and Saatchi. 
They created the slogan 'Life's Better with the Conservatives - Don't let 
Labour Ruin It' which was used in a massively successful £2.5-million 
newspaper campaign for the last week of the election.

A clue as to why he gave money to Labour is that after one of his prize 
pekinese died in an operation in Paris, Mr Lowe, who lives in Geneva, 
Switzerland, wrote to Tony Blair urging him to lift Britain's 'antiquated' 
quarantine laws.
'I received a prompt, courteous reply,' that Labour was dealing with the 
problem. 'My vote goes to whoever reforms the quarantine laws,' he said.

MICHAEL WATT, a millionaire and New Zealand citizen based in the Irish 
Republic, is yet another £5,000-plus donor on the list. Mr Watt, jockey 
Lester Piggott's ex-manager, runs international sports television 
production and distribution company CSI which markets English Premier 
League football around the world. He spent £70,000 of his own money buying 
a 1,000-ton cargo ship which he sent on a personal clean-up of the 
Antarctic. The boat was filled with debris left by untidy explorers.

A friend of Rodney Bickerstaffe, Left-wing leader of the public workers' 
union, Unison, he also put up £80,000 to rescue the Durham miners' gala 
after seeing the hit film "Brassed Off, about a colliery band.

Although not a foreign donor, Labour also faces a problem with Lord 
Sainsbury of Turville.

The party accuses Mr Ashcroft of having a 'conflict of interest' because he 
is both the Tories' biggest donor and its treasurer. But the peer is to 
give Labour its biggest donation in the coming year of £2-million. Critics 
say he has an even bigger conflict as he is both Britain's biggest personal 
investor in GM foods, and the Science Minister whose department is 
responsible for overseeing GM foods.

===
Daily Mail, Friday, November 26, 1999




[CTRL] WTO Freedon of Speech! (fwd)

1999-12-02 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 23:05:04 -0800
From: Tom Civiletti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ykboo] "Freedon of Speech!"

In Seattle, Tuesday, I interviewed Remi Parmentier, Greenpeace
International [credentialed] delegate to the WTO ministerial.  He said
that the protesters' blockade prevented the beginning session until at
least 12:30pm.  At that time 2 protesters made it to the idle microphone
inside the main meeting room and asked to address the few delegates who
were there.  they were descended upon by police and dragged off.
Parmentier rose and said "Freedom of Speech."  This brought the police
[secret service? private security?] down on him.  His credentials were
ripped from him and he was bodily tossed from the Conference Center  and
told not to return.  So much for incorporating environmental concerns
into the WTO's deliberations.

Parmentier's interview  and other video from Seattle will be part of a
Portland Cable Access program on 12/9 @8:30pm.  I don't know which
access channel yet.

Tom Civiletti

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[CTRL] THE RIGHT TO CONFESS

1999-12-02 Thread earthman

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Joke for December 2, 1999
from the joke of the day website
   THE RIGHT TO CONFESS
   - submitted by Holly
  __

The CIA, the FBI, and the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD)
are all trying to prove that they are the best at apprehending
criminals.  The President decides to give them a test.  He releases
a rabbit into a forest and each of them has to catch it.

The CIA goes in.  They place animal informants throughout the
forest.  They question all plant and mineral witnesses.  After
three months of extensive investigations, they conclude that
rabbits do not exist.

The FBI goes in.  After two weeks with no leads they burn the
forest, killing everything in it, including the rabbit and they
make no apologies.  The rabbit had it coming.  The LAPD goes in.
They come out two hours later dragging a badly beaten bear.  The
bear is screaming, "Okay, okay!  I'm a RABBIT!!  I'm a RABBIT!!"



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[CTRL] (fwd) On-the-scene in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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I also just got this from a friend. The following is email he recieved from
his mother whom lives In Capital Hills inside Seattle. I figured everyone
would like to see. I also have another report from his mother I'll forward
along as well.

___

Please tell as many as you can that Capitol Hill is a war zone tonight.
Polic entered this neighborhood and fired INDISCRIMINATELY at anyone and
everyone in sight. They came to the corner of our block and were shouted
back
by angry residents, but after retreating to the QFC parking lot one block
away they again began discharginhg gas canisters. The area was saturated
with
pepper spraty and gas. One young woman who had been sprayed said she was
standing there..her dad is a cop, her brother a cop, she had wanted to be a
policewoman.  Peter said he had seen the young man get kicked and sprayed.
He
said he was being vocally provocative, but not otherwise violent.

Here's the bad news. Paul is missing. I truly believe he has been arrested.
His son Peter went out with him. It has been over an hour since I have seen
them.The piolice are tens of blocks outside their designated curfew area in
this neighborhood and yet they continue to turn and fire gas and pepper
canisters at the crowd following them down toward the curfew barricades. The
crowd has shouted them to leave many many times.   Telling them to take
their
HATE out of our neighborhood. Many buildings are boarded up on Broadway. The
crowd has dispersed in many directions and as many of the people I saw are
neighborhood people with no place to go, this could be a rather circular
exercise.

I am going out again to see if I can find word of Paul. I will have to come
in soon as I have been propositioned by a really high street kid of about 17
and offered a "blast" from another. It is my neighborhood and I will be ok
(except from the Police...I am wearing their favorite color, anarchist
black)
there are very many people that I see every day.

My hands are stinging from the pepper spray, I have been gassed at least
five
times standing within two blocks of my home peacefully assemb led.  DO NOT
LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT THE POLICE ACTED ON THIS CROWD BECAUSE THEY
WERE
DISORDERLY. they entered this neighborhood for a reason unclear to anyone in
this building. They fired volley after volley of tear gas canisters and that
is what drew everyone out of their homes.  The news stations say they are
covering this, but I saw nothing except Garth Brooks looking ridiculous and
singing white christmas or something. PLEASE let people know that citizens
are being gassed and sprayed for standing outside in this neighborhood which
is well (or was ) outside the curfew zone.

This city is undermartial law whehter or not the fuckers are willing to make
it official by announcement.

I will let all of you know as  WAIT.  Paul and Peter have just come in.They
are safe.The news is BLATANTLY LYING TO PEOPL:E They are saying thatr the
streets are clear ...there are about 3000 people in the streets right now.
They have been pushing the police down the hill and apparently they are
being
led toward the 12th street precinct.  I have to go hear the other lies on
the
television.

later
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Re: [CTRL] COINTELPRO in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Tatman, Robert

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I am convinced that at least some of the black-clad "anarchists" in Seattle
are agents provocateurs. However, just whom they work for is another
question altogether. Their assignment is clearly to discredit the legitimate
nonviolent anti-WTO movement, which is one of the most broadly-based
movements in U.S. history. Their "sponsors" could be any of several U.S.
government agencies--FBI, CIA, military intelligence (remember the fake
"civilian demonstrators" from the Urban Warrior exercises? Was this what
*they* were practicing for?); they could also be working for one or more
multinational corporations, or for assorted foreign governments. Or perhaps
the answer is "All of the above."

Also, as a longtime student of nonviolent anarchism, I am extremely annoyed
at the use of these punks to smear the honorable name "anarchist." The big
parade on Tuesday included the IWW, and the Wobblies are *true* anarchists.
It's a fool's errand to try to make the news media see the difference
between real anarchists like the Wobblies and those nihilists in Nike
sneakers who trashed Niketown, but at least we in the movement owe it to
ourselves and our sisters and brothers to be aware of the distinction. True
anarchism scares the shit out of the Oligarchy; unthinking nihilism only
serves the Oligarchy's purposes.

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 Read this.
 See if anyone can get hold of  CBS (KIRO) affiliate reporter named Meagan
 Black, and or copy of the broadcast.
 Most of us are aware that FBI COINTELPRO is famous for undermining
 activists
 with agents provocateur.  (or land-mining them, like Judi Bari)
 This CBS broadcast is evidence.

 Dave Hartley
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4 - 12/02/99

1999-12-02 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 991202d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* No ballerinas were crippled much during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Live In The Future: http://home.fea.net/~cjepsen/Googie.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# BETWEEN PLEASURE  PAIN: Scientists studying pain say ballerinas withstand
  more pain than any athlete, even football players. Every dancer examined
  in Canada's National Ballet has arthritis from dancing on pointe. Ouch.
  Suffering for art: http://nationalpost.com/artslife.asp?f=991202/141388

# HERE WE GO AGAIN: Two US senators claim violence on television is actually
  up 30% since Congress raised concerns in 1997.“This is an industry that’s
  stiffing us” - http://www.variety.com/article.asp?articleID=1117758513

: Would you rather suffer for your art, or make someone else suffer? Is pain
required for art, humor, politics, faith? Do you believe in inflicting pain?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Assembling Molecules an Atom at a Time. Researchers used a specially
  designed scanning tunneling microscope (STM) to pick up single molecules
  of carbon monoxide and graft them onto an iron atom to form molecules of
  iron carbonyl. Customization: http://jimfl.yi.org:88/links/99872/goURL

: Did you know that a STM can be built REAL cheap? See Ed Regis' book NANO
for an account of a kid who made one, with RadioShack parts. Do you want to
manipulate matter at the atomic level? What molecules d'ya wanna assemble?

# Or is Time Merely an Illusion? Speculation on the nature of time has long
  been the domain of philosophers: Physicists dared not approach. Physicist
  Julian Barber suggests that time is an artifact of the arrangement of
  matter. Rearrange space/time: http://jimfl.yi.org:88/links/99875/goURL
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# NEW VERSION OF EXPLOREZIP DEFIES ANTI-VIRUS SYSTEMS. ExploreZip, the worm
  that devastated systems in June, is now back in a compressed version that
  slips through anti-virus security systems. The worm infected several major
  firms on Tuesday. Dubbed MiniZip by some security vendors - a reference to
  how the worm has been compressed - the latest outbreak uses exactly the
  same technology as ExploreZip, except that it has been compressed in a
  format that masks it from security systems which scan incoming messages
  for attacks. http://cnn.com/1999/TECH/computing/12/01/explorezip.again.idg

: Does the cybervirus world abide by Murphy's Law Of Cybernetic Etymology -
"There's always another bug"?? What's your favorite virus payload? Do you
like to scramble target systems with chaotic randomization? How d'ya sneak
your payloads past the gatekeepers? Will ever-changing compression systems
render a computer virus impervious to detection? Is computation doomed???

# Recodable Locking Device [RLD]. The RLD, which uses microelectromechanical
  system (MEMS) technology so small that it takes a microscope to see it, is
  a series of tiny notched gears that move to the unlocked position only
  when the right code is entered. It's the first known mechanical hardware
  designed to keep unwanted guests from breaking codes  illegally entering
  computer  other secure systems. http://jimfl.yi.org:88/links/99881/goURL
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Paralyzed by a Beam from a UFO. I noticed a deep black globe about 3 feet
  in diameter, hovering in place about 80' away  18" or so off the ground.
  The sphere was a pure black, almost as if it were a hole in space; yet I
  could tell it was fully 3-D and very real. The sphere started drifting
  smoothly towards my right at about half a mile an hour. A low humming
  noise became evident at this point. The object then emitted an intense,
  fan-shaped orange beam of some kind, directed towards my right  sweeping
  slowly from right to left. As the beam swept past, objects in its path
  (tires, pop cans, etc.) glowed a kind of phosphorescent orange color;
  while the general background was darker. The beam hit me, paralyzing me
  where I stood. That's the last I remember: http://caus.org/mu120299.htm

: Have you been paralyzed by aliens lately? Have you paralyzed any humans or
aliens lately? Which are easier to deal with? What technology do you use???

# Space Vehicles Arrive -- But Whose? http://www.caus.org/pn120299.htm
@ Alien Abductions.-- The most startling aspect of the UFO Phenomena.
  Millions of people have reportedly been abducted by beings from outer
  space. http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/ufo/ufoabduction.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

@ Watch The Watchers: http://www.echelonwatch.org  [NSA Surveillance]
@ It's the cutest Sith Lord you ever did see, it's Darth Pikachu, pikapi!
  http://www.famousdesigns.com/wfcomics/beetle/darthpikachu.shtml
@ 

[CTRL] Dinner for Gore makes observers queasy (fwd)

1999-12-02 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:34:26 -0500 (EST)

The entire article can be viewed at :

http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/tv/linsidet.htm

"**" Dinner for Gore makes observers queasy
By Peter Johnson, USA TODAY

A dinner party tonight at the Washington, D.C., home of ABC News
correspondent John Cochran and his wife, Barbara, has raised some
ethics questions at ABC News.

The guests of honor are Vice President Gore and wife Tipper.
Cochran, who covers the White House, is expected to be ABC's lead
reporter on Gore's presidential campaign.

Politicians and the reporters who cover them socialize casually
all the time in Washington. But there are certain unspoken
guidelines. One is to avoid being too close - or giving the
appearance of chumminess - with a politician, especially during a
race.

In campaigns, reporters and candidates "will find themselves
together at dinner parties all the time," says Keith Woods of the
Poynter Institute, a St. Petersburg, Fla., school for
journalists. "What changes in this case is the intimate
relationship that is suggested by the fact that the reporter is
inviting the candidate to his home. This is unnecessary muddying
of the waters."

Word around ABC News is that Cochran notified executives of the
dinner party after the Gores - who are longtime friends of the
Cochrans - had accepted the invitation. At that point, ABC News
decided to foot the bill for the dinner.  Woods called ABC's
sponsorship "just stacking more bodies into the bed."

Cochran couldn't be reached. ABC News spokeswoman Eileen Murphy
said the "working dinner . . . will not compromise our coverage
of the presidential race in any way."

Murphy would not discuss how ABC came to sponsor the dinner. No
other ABC correspondents have hosted dinners for candidates, she
said. Reporters from The Washington Post, The New York Times and
CNN will attend tonight. "It's one in a series of conversations
we're having with presidential candidates.  We intend to have
other similar dinners."

snip


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Re: [CTRL] Seattle scanner online

1999-12-02 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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I wonder why no one has put in a "Battle-in-Seattle-CAM" yet

Mike



On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Stopforth, Jamie wrote:

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   Ahhh man, I'm not getting anything but bums and thugs stuff.  Nothing on
 the WTO situation.

 Jamie

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  -Caveat Lector-

 Thanks!

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 Online Seattle police scanner: pnm://real.mp.intervu.net/scannerlive_sea
 (Load into Real Audio)

 Channels #WTO and #seattle on Efnet IRC are active during the evening hours.

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Re: [CTRL] COINTELPRO in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread nessie

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the legitimate nonviolent anti-WTO movement,


What makes the nonviolent anti-WTO movement "legitimate" and the violent
movement not?   Was the Boston Tea Party not violent? Did that make it a
bad thing?  More to the point, what makes police violence legitimate and
citizen violence not legitimate?

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[CTRL] Outsider art inside: 'We Are Not Alone'

1999-12-02 Thread earthman

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Baltimore's American Visionary Art Museum


Outsider art inside: 'We Are Not Alone'

(CNN) -- "Outsider" or "visionary art" are terms used to refer to work
by artists whose inspirations are found outside normal experience and
formal training.
Such work -- sometimes created in a trance-like state and often defying
normal expectations in its sophistication -- has confounded and
fascinated collectors. It is, for example, the focus of a 1990 work of
dance theater, "Praise House," staged by Jawole Willa Jo Zollar and her
New York-based company, Urban Bush Women.
Now, the American Visionary Art Museum in Baltimore offers "We Are Not
Alone: Angels and Other Aliens," an exhibit of work by some 100
artists. Their link is a self-taught aesthetic of companionship --
visible and invisible.
ALSO
* Exhibition roundup: What's showing now

MESSAGE BOARDEyes on exhibitions:

Seen any good exhibits lately? Share your opinions on the message board


Light and shadow

This exhibit focuses on fantasy and fun, says museum founder-director
Rebecca Hoffberger. But she says it also explores the more serious of
its theme, with works that are sublime, peaceful, angry or disturbing.
Outsider artists often tell of frightening sensations and images to
which they're responding on canvas and in sculpture. Their frequent
dependence on found materials can deepen the primitivist character of
their work. But the complexity of their motifs can be arresting.
The "We Are Not Alone" exhibit features interpretations of
"visitations" of the sci-fi kind along with its images of faith.
On the more whimsical side are some alien bunnies made of thousands of
bottle caps by Grace and Clarence Woolsey; a 1976 black Cadillac
Fleetwood covered with 5,000 spoons and forks said to have been bent by
the mental power of Uri Geller; and "The World's First Robot Family,"
made of 100-percent recycled material from junkyards by DeVon Smith.
Among darker works are August Walla's pictures of otherworldly
protectors he felt were with him in his asylum confinement. There are
soot-and-spit sketches by James Castle of three imaginary figures. And
there are 27 of more than 120 drawings by Virginia housewife Betty Ann
Luca, who says her alien encounters started when she was 7 years old.
Text often figures into outsider art -- as do long, apocalyptic titles.
These trends are represented in the exhibit, in part, by Norbert Kox's
"Made in America: U.S. Upperman, the Man of Steal , Prince and Power of
the Air, Usurperman, Usurper of the Role ... ." The work uses a
numerological code that adds the characters in "Jesus Christ" and
"Lucifer" to 666, a number linked in the biblical book of "Revelation"
to Satanic forces.
As daunting as some newcomers to visionary art find such work,
Hoffberger says the show is "a reverent look at what's reality for
different people."
"We Are Not Alone" is curated by Susan Subtle Dintenfass and includes
some 260 works. The majority of the pieces are by American artists but
34 come from the Outsider Collection and Archives of Dublin, Ireland;
the Art Brut Museum in Lausanne, Switzerland; and Austria's Gugging Art
Center.
"We Are Not Alone: Angels and Other Aliens" runs through September 3,
2000, at the American Visionary Art Museum, 800 Key Highway, Baltimore,
Maryland, (410) 244-5858.

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Re: [CTRL] COINTELPRO in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Tatman, Robert

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I didn't say police violence was legitimate. What I am trying to do is
identify WHY the "anarchists" were ignored by the cops on Tuesday, while the
nonviolent demonstrators were targeted. As a matter of principle, I do not
believe that ANY violence is legitimate. With all due respect to my Jesuit
professors, I don't accept the principle of double effect: it is NEVER
appropriate to use violence to stop violence. If activists use violence
themselves, they are simply adopting the methods of the Oligarchy, and by
doing that they have allowed themselves to be coopted. QED: if not, why do
agents provocateurs always try to get their targets to engage in violent
actions? We DARE not use the enemy's weapons to fight the enemy...if we do
that, we might as well just give up and enlist in the enemy's army.

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 the legitimate nonviolent anti-WTO movement,


 What makes the nonviolent anti-WTO movement "legitimate" and the violent
 movement not?   Was the Boston Tea Party not violent? Did that make it a
 bad thing?  More to the point, what makes police violence legitimate and
 citizen violence not legitimate?

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Re: [CTRL] [freedomfight] Re: SEATTLE'S JACKBOOTED THUGS TRASH CONSTITUTIONALRIGHTSOF U.S. CITIZENS!!

1999-12-02 Thread BARD

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Andre, Thought you knew the Constitution was 'thrashed' on March 4,
1933, and since then the thugs have been operating our federal
government under what is commonly known as PUBLIC POLICY.
Bard

Andre Traversa wrote:

 Les,
 But we haven't even exhausted the resources of peaceful pfotest. And
 you're right, of course these draconian laws are unconstitkutional, but m
 point is that the kuse of violence will only lead to the passing of more
 kunconstitutional legislation.

 Btw, unreasonable searches and seizures are only unconstitutioonal if they
 are done by te federal government.  The Billo f rights per se does not
 appl to the states or local police. The ol amendment tht directly applies
 to the states is the 5th, which is reiterated in the 14th Amenment, "no
 state shall deprive anone of life, liberty, or property without dkue
 process of law." The Bill of Rightsw only applies to the federal
 government.
 Andre

 
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[CTRL] Red flags raised about genetically engineered corn

1999-12-02 Thread Steve Wingate

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Red flags raised about genetically engineered corn

Copyright © 1999 Nando Media
Copyright © 1999 Christian Science Monitor Service

By ROBERT C. COWEN

(December 2, 1999 10:24 a.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - In the
journal Nature, researchers are raising warnings about genetically
engineered corn that makes its own pesticide, giving new perspective to
concerns about a development meant to reduce the need for
chemical pesticides.

The corn's toxin is supposed to kill only the pests it's aimed at. But lab tests
have shown that the roots exude the poison into the soil where it
can remain indefinitely.

Other recent studies have found that the pollen of such genetically altered
corn can kill monarch butterfly larvae, and that lacewings - natural
predators of insect pests - die when fed corn borer worms raised on the
plants. Critics discounted such findings as unnatural laboratory
conditions unlikely to prevail on the farm.

The new warning published Thursday in Nature also springs from the test
tube. But this time, the findings identify a phenomenon that can
directly affect farmers' fields. It is "very definitely" a concern, says
microbiologist Guenther Stotzky of New York University, who reported the
discovery along with his colleague Deepak Saxena and Saul Flores of the
Venezuelan Institute of Scientific Investigations.

The corn produces the active part of an insecticide made by the bacterium
Bacillus thuringiensis. The toxin appears in the leaves, stock,
pollen, and roots. When it's ingested, caterpillars stop eating and die.

Soil bacteria destroy the toxin if they can get at it. Stotzky and his
colleagues found that the poison binds to clay particles and humic acids
found naturally in most soils. Instead of disappearing in about 25 days, it is
active for at least 234 days.

The scientists note that pollen falling on the ground and corn stocks plowed
back into the soil add to the toxin that roots exude. They don't know
if build-up would continue or level off.

Bt corn toxin is different from Bt sprays widely used as an alternative to
chemical insecticides, Stotzky explains. The latter are crystals that only
become active in the target insects' digestive systems. That's why they
don't harm other creatures.

The corn carries a gene that produces the active form of the poison, which
puts pressure on soil organisms. No one knows the consequences,
Stotzky says, but "we should stop at this point and consider these things."

He may get his wish. The United States and other countries use Bt corn
widely, but it is falling out of favor due to growing consumer resistance
to foods derived from crops genetically modified to carry alien genes.
Some major food companies insist that suppliers segregate these
crops, and non-genetically modified corn now fetches premium prices.

(c) Copyright 1999. The Christian Science Publishing Society


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[CTRL] Could one genetically modified fish invade a species and destroy it?

1999-12-02 Thread Steve Wingate

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Wednesday December 1, 12:01 AM

Could one genetically modified fish invade a species and destroy it?

By Matt Walker

A SINGLE genetically modified fish could turn Darwinian evolution upside
down and wipe out local populations of the species if released into the wild,
biologists warn. They add that other organisms could face the same risk
from transgenic relatives.

William Muir and Richard Howard of Purdue University in West Lafayette,
Indiana, made the discovery while modelling ecological risks associated
with genetically modified organisms (GMOs). They have dubbed their idea
the "Trojan gene" hypothesis. "This resembles the Trojan horse," says Muir.
"It gets into the population looking like something good and it ends up
destroying the population.".

The researchers studied fish carrying the human growth hormone gene
hGH, which increases growth rate and final size. Biologists in the US and
Britain are experimenting with salmon engineered in a similar way,
although no one has yet begun commercial production.

Muir and Howard included hGH in embryos of a fish called the Japanese
medaka (Oryzias latipes), a common aquarium fish that is widely used in
research. They found that modified individuals became sexually mature
faster than normal fish and produced more eggs.

Other experiments using non-modified fish also showed that larger males
attracted four times as many mates as their smaller rivals. This effect is
also known in salmon. Muir predicts that bigger, engineered fish would
enjoy the same advantages. So the hGH gene would quickly spread
through a fish population.

But Muir and Howard also found that only two-thirds of engineered medaka
survived to reproductive age compared with wild medakas. So the spread
of the growth hormone gene could make populations dwindle and
eventually become extinct.

To quantify this, the researchers plugged their results into a computer
model to find out what would happen if 60 transgenic individuals joined a
wild population of 60 000 fish. The population became extinct within just 40
generations. Even a single transgenic animal could have the same effect,
they found, although extinction would take longer.

"You have the very strange situation where the least fit individual in the
population is getting all the matings--this is the reverse of Darwin's model,"
says Muir. "The sexual selection drives the gene into the population and the
reduced viability drives the population to extinction." The researchers say
their results are the first evidence that GMOs could have catastrophic
consequences on their own species.

David Penman, a fish geneticist at the University of Stirling, welcomes the
discovery. But he says there is evidence that some transgenic fish
modified with growth hormone have reduced sperm production and mating
success. "If large males tend to mate with large females, this would often
result in matings between transgenics," he adds. This would decrease
rather than increase the spread of the gene.

But John Beringer of Bristol University, a former chairman of the British
committee that advises the government on GMOs, says the research is a
warning. "It would make it very difficult for anyone at the moment to approve
the release of GM fish carrying growth hormone," he says. "I would have to
give a great deal of consideration about whether that's an intelligent route
to go down."

Muir says that the model may prove an invaluable tool in assessing the
dangers of GMOs. He hopes to test its predictions in tightly controlled fish
farm ponds.

Source: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (vol 96, p 13
853) (From New Scientist, 4/12/99)


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[CTRL] rapist gives narcotraffikers a new base

1999-12-02 Thread BARD

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(DOMINICAN REPUBLIC)

Vol. 15, No. 47 -- December 20, 1999

Published Date November 24, 1999, in Washington,
D.C.
http://www.insightmag.com


   An Island Nation Stormed
   by Drugs

   By Martin Arostegui


   The Dominican Republic's
drug czar says U.S.
   ambivalence is letting
traffickers make a
   narcostate of his
country, turning it into a hub for
   the export of illegal
narcotics.

  Last year Marino
Vinicio Castillo, the president of the
  Dominican Republic's
National Council on Drugs, stood
  beside U.S. officials
in Santo Domingo and announced the
   seizure of three
drug-transporting planes owned by Mexican
   kingpin Luis Horacio
Cano, a man indicted on 57 counts of
   narcotrafficking and
convicted in U.S. federal court. The
   Dominican Republic's drug
czar was acting at the request of the
   U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration, or DEA. He revealed
   that the seized aircraft
had been transshipping cocaine through
   that country and flying
back crates full of dollars to be
   laundered into local
investments. Castillo called for "the
   immediate extradition" of
Cano's alleged Dominican
   collaborators, Tito
Hernandez and Edmond Elias.
   . . . . "This marks a
great step in the collaboration between our
   two governments in the
fight against drugs," declared U.S.
   Consul General Edward
Cubbison, joining Castillo at the
   microphone. "It's a
warning to all those who practice the crime
   that they have no place
to hide."
   . . . . Today, however,
those words ring hollow. Castillo tells
   Insight that he fears his
country is being allowed to drift into
   narcostatehood, accusing
the White House of undermining his
   efforts to fight drug
trafficking. Dominican President Leonel
   Fernandez -- an ally of
the Clintons who is reportedly helping
   the first lady with the
sizable Dominican immigrant vote in her
   New York Senate bid --
has failed to hand over Hernandez or
   Elias, both of whom are
reported to be financial contributors to
   his ruling Dominican
Liberation Party, or PLD.
   . . . . Castillo also
points to a pattern of official negligence that
   he says is helping drug
cartels penetrate the Dominican
   Republic and neighboring
Haiti. While Clinton officials
   congratulated themselves
on last month's roundup of some
   recycled remnants of
Colombia's Medellín cartel, they
   remained silent while the
Dominican government sold off major
   state properties to known
criminal interests.
   . . . . "It's a fatal
blow to the war on drugs" says Castillo,
   reporting that Dominican
Airlines was sold to a Venezuelan
   company, Atlantic Inc.,
which Castillo says has at least two
   directors involved in
narcotrafficking. Chinese gangs moving
   money from Hong Kong also
were using the government's
   privatization drive to
try to gain control of key port and
   maritime 

[CTRL] FW: New Belief System / GF 113099

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FWIW.

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 Federation
 November 30, 1999 (5 Ix. 7 Yaxk'in, 8 Manik)

 Greetings! We welcome you, and with joy and in glee provide you with our
 message! Eons ago, dear Ones, your beloved Mother Earth and its many
 sentient
 caretakers were given the sacred task of guiding physical Creation to the
 next
 appointed stage in its development. The time for this task has now
 commenced
 formally. The many celestial events that are currently taking place around
 you
 in deep space are only a portent that your very magnificent planet and its
 numerous sentient dwellers are being readied for their prophesied
 assignments.
 These tasks imply conclusively that shortly, you shall possess fully
 integrated
 bodies and shall have become fully conscious Beings. We in Heaven have
 come to
 your shores to complete these sacred tasks. Once here, we have showered
 you with
 the sacred energies of A-E-O-N. We have followed the commands of Lord
 Siraya and
 permitted myriads of the divine Orders of Heaven to surround you with
 their Love
 and to fill you with their Blessings. This activity has rapidly
 transformed the
 matrix that orders your current reality.

   Your reality is destined to become a most miraculous place. Its
 inhabitants are presently feeling the nature of these changes. Your
 planetary
 entity, Mother Earth, sings daily of the wondrous events that are soon to
 occur.
 In addition, the main liaison team of the Galactic Federation's first
 contact
 mission has begun what are to be a most momentous series of negotiations
 with
 your worldly cabals and their governmental counterparts. Dear Ones of the
 Light,
 we shall not rest until these tasks are concluded successfully. These
 talks
 involve many things. Mostly, they involve the use of certain agreements
 that can
 bring your assigned tasks swiftly to the forefront. Keep in mind that your
 primary task is to function as the co-creators of a new reality. In
 achieving
 it, you are integrating an amazing number of realities into your own. You
 are to
 be a truly grand lynchpin for uniting this third dimension in ways that it
 has
 not known before. Moreover, you are to be the bridge that brings the
 energies
 and the profundity of the fourth, fifth and sixth dimensions to this
 reality.

   It is important that you begin to envision yourselves as a bridge
 between
 numerous realities and dimensions. This position is one for which your new
 reality has been designed. You have incarnated into this reality to alter
 it
 into what it is destined to become. You have also taken on the
 responsibility of
 acting as the hub for the next series of events that shall unfold this
 aspect of
 Creation. This process is one that we have briefly hinted at in some of
 our more
 recent messages. We would like now to examine this matter in some detail.
 However, you should know first that the intricate details of this process
 have
 already been put into the matrix that is currently creating your new
 reality.
 This new reality is inevitable. It is a part of your future. Nonetheless,
 there
 are still some aspects that you will need to manifest in the very near
 future.
 One of these is the creation of some unique societal structures, along
 with a
 new global belief system that empowers you and does not limit your
 abilities.
 This procedure is one that you are rapidly moving toward. You are starting
 to
 see how powerful you really are.

   This inner power stems from your True Self. This is the divine 'I
 Am'
 presence that is truly you. It is this great Spirit entity that willingly
 forms
 the many Orders, Councils and Administrations that divinely carry out the
 sacred
 decrees and commands of the divine plan. When you were plunged into
 limited
 consciousness, an etheric screen was forged that divided you from your
 inner
 essence. You were forced by the very nature of this reality to look
 outward and
 see your life as a temporary span of physical existence that usually
 lasted for
 many decades. The spiritual realm was seen only as a guide, and as a final
 repository for your soul. Indeed, the ways of the spiritual were deeply
 manipulated by those in your reality who sought to control you. In the
 past,
 only the sacred missions of a number of specially appointed heavenly
 Way-showers
 have prevented you from being cast into eternal darkness. Their messages
 and
 their sacred lives have helped to keep the door pried open that leads 

Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Monday #1 - 11/29/99

1999-12-02 Thread earthman

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I can suggest.. Bloodlines of the Holy Grail by Laurence Gardner.. Seems to
be the latest revelations/..
Some of his lectures are available at
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/2301/Directory.html

Peter

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 This heresy is properly known as "docetism" ("seeming" or "fooling"). See
 John Dart, *The Laughing Savior* (out of print) for a popularized
 examination of this and other Gnostic beliefs represented in the Nag
Hammadi
 Library.

 HBHG, however, has to be read with about a peck of salt. There is a lot of
 valuable material in it; there is also a lot of sheer, unadulterated
 poppycock. Check their sources before swallowing anything in the book.

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   From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Yeshua's crucifixion was faked and it was actually Simon of Cyrene
   who was nailed up,
  
   Why Simon of Cyrene? What's the story?
 
  This is one of the earliest traditions of non-orthodox Xianity,
  passed on for millennia in the oral tradition, and substantiated
  by the Nag Hammadi scrolls.  I'm reading about it in HOLY BLOOD,
  HOLY GRAIL by Baigent  Leigh  Lincoln [Dell, 1983].  On page
  381 of the Dell paperback they write:
 
In one undated codex, for example, the Second Treatise of the
Great Seth, Jesus is depicted precisely as he is in the heresy
of Basilides -- escaping his death on the cross by dint of an
ingenious substitution... Jesus speaks in the first person:
 
"I did not succumb to them as they had planned... and I did not
 die in reality but in appearance, lest I be put to shame by
 them... it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his
 shoulder.  It was another upon whom they placed the crown of
 thorns... And I was laughing at their ignorance."  (22)
 
With convincing consistency certain other works in the Nag Hammadi
collection bear witness to a bitter and ongoing feud between Peter
and the Magdalen -- a feud [reflecting] a schism between the
"adherants of the message" and the adherants of the bloodline.
 
  HOLY BLOOD is a fascinating book, laying the groundwork for many of
  the conspiracies that are currently under discussion.  And it points
  out just what a sham Xianity is.  Read and learn.
 
 

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[CTRL] Everything u ever wanted 2 know about SSNs

1999-12-02 Thread BARD

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 THURSDAY
AUGUST 19
  1999

  (Not) Everything
  you ever wanted
  to know about SSNs


  © 1999 Claire Wolfe

  Last week's column

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_cwolfe/19990812_xccwo_keeping_ba.shtml
  about babies without
  Social Security numbers drew a ton of mail.
  Usually, that's good. This time it was a mixed
  bag. I heard from gutsy people refusing to
  cooperate with government child-tracking
  schemes. I heard from people with helpful
  info. But I also heard from lots who either
  didn't get or didn't like what "Lawyer X" and I
  had to say. This week I want to deal with some
  of their objections.

  "How will baby drive, get credit or buy a
  house without a government number?"

  Last week's column argued, "Give baby a
  chance to choose whether or not he wants a
  number. He can't do that when he's an hour
  old."

  I didn't take a stand against all government
  citizen-numbering (though, in fact, I do and
  will). I just said that the decision to bear a
  tracking number has far-reaching
  consequences for freedom and privacy, and
  that an individual is entitled to make that
  decision for himself, not to have it imposed
  upon him at birth.

  Yep, years from now -- when it comes time to
  drive or go to college -- grown-up baby will
  have some tough decisions to make. Of course,
  baby might face a more hopeful future if
  enough people -- today -- tell the government
  (and its Little Brother corporations) to take a
  leap into the abyss with their control schemes.

  "But how will I get my tax deduction if I
  don't number the baby?"

  The government wants more of your freedom.
  If you don't give in, it'll extract more of your
  money. And if you do give in, it'll know it can
  take even more money or freedom from you
  next time. Are these the kinds of choices you
  want to continue to be pressured to make? Or
  do you want to say a resounding NO to such
  blackmail?

  There is an alternate government number you
  might be able to wheedle for your baby in
  order to write him off. Ask the IRS about it.
  You can always make deals -- if that's the kind
  of world you want.

  "But you have to use an SS number.
  Otherwise, you can't live a normal life!"

  This objection -- repeated by more
  correspondents than I care to think about --
  depressed me for days. Of course it's true.
  Absolutely, totally, completely true. If you
  don't have -- or if you refuse to use -- an SS
  number for ordinary activities like driving,
  connecting utilities, purchasing firearms,
  renting videos, etc. -- you'll find yourself
  leading a curtailed life or constantly fighting
  with bureaucrats, store clerks and company
  officials.

  But can't you see? That's exactly why it's so
  crucial to fight this universal numbering
  business as fiercely as if you were a rabid
  Tasmanian devil!

  The abuse of SS numbers has been growing
  since the first SS legislation was spawned. But
  only since 1996 have the worst abuses been
  codified into law. You -- and your children --
  are slowly being squeezed into a position of
  absolute submission to authority -- with your
  SS number as the lever. It's being used to
  control your access to everything from credit to
  health care to work to investments to
  education to insurance to housing to travel --
  and eventually, to food. Free people do not
  tolerate such control over their lives. It must be
  halted -- and reversed.

  "You didn't tell me how I can get a credit
  card or health insurance without a
  number."

  Right. First of all, it was a 1,500-word column
  

Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Monday #1 - 11/29/99

1999-12-02 Thread David Rupp

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Peter wrote: I can suggest.. Bloodlines of the Holy Grail by Laurence
Gardner.. Seems to be the latest revelations/..

David: Most of us on the Priory of Sion list serve at OneList.com would
debate the value of Sir Laurence's work. He seems willing to twist and even
invent information to serve his own purposes. Compared to 'Bloodlines',
'Holy Blood, Holy Grail' reads like mainstream scholarship.

David Rupp
Get caught up in The Web of Fate at
http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html.

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[CTRL] Lawsuit Uncovers Disagreement Within FDA Over Safety of Biotech Foods

1999-12-02 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Lawsuit Uncovers Disagreement Within FDA Over Safety of Biotech Foods
Agency Contradicted Own Experts in Approving Genetically Engineered Foods
Misrepresented Facts in Order to Promote U.S. Biotech Industry

Statement by Steven M. Druker, JD, executive director of the Alliance for
Bio-Integrity, coordinator of the lawsuit against the FDA to obtain
mandatory safety testing and labeling of genetically engineered foods, and
an attorney on the case (in collaboration with the legal department of the
Center for Food Safety in Washington, D.C.)

Prying Out the Facts Through Litigation

In May 1998, a coalition of public interest groups, scientists, and
religious leaders filed a landmark lawsuit against the U.S. Food and Drug
Administration to obtain mandatory safety testing and labeling of all
genetically engineered foods (Alliance for Bio-Integrity, et. al. v.
Shalala). Nine eminent life scientists joined the coalition in order to
emphasize the degree to which they think FDA policy is scientifically
unsound and morally irresponsible. Now, the FDA's own files confirm how
well-founded are their concerns. The FDA was required to deliver copies of
these files--totalling over 44,000 pages--to the plaintiffs' attorneys.

False Claims and a Policy at Odds with the Law

The FDA's records reveal it declared genetically engineered foods to be
safe in the face of broad disagreement from its own experts -- all the
while claiming a broad scientific consensus supported its stance. Internal
reports and memoranda disclose: (1) agency scientists repeatedly cautioned
that foods produced through recombinant DNA technology entail different
risks than do their conventionally produced counterparts and (2) that this
input was consistently disregarded by the bureaucrats who crafted the
agency's current policy, which treats bioengineered foods the same as
natural ones.

Besides contradicting the FDA's claim that its policy is science-based,
this evidence shows the agency violated the U.S. Food, Drug and Cosmetic
Act in allowing genetically engineered foods to be marketed without testing
on the premise that they are generally recognized as safe by qualified
experts.

FDA Scientists Protest Attempt to Equate Genetic Engineering with
Conventional Breeding

The FDA admits it is operating under a directive "to foster" the U.S.
biotech industry; and this directive advocates the premise that
bioengineered foods are essentially the same as others. However, the
agency's attempts to bend its policy to conform with this premise met
strong resistance from its own scientists, who repeatedly warned that
genetic engineering differs from conventional practices and entails a
unique set of risks. Numerous agency experts protested that drafts of the
Statement of Policy were ignoring the recognized potential for
bioengineering to produce unexpected toxins and allergens in a different
manner and to a different degree than do conventional methods.

For instance, Dr. Louis Priybl of the FDA Microbiology Group wrote, "There
is a profound difference between the types of unexpected effects from
traditional breeding and genetic engineering which is just glanced over in
this document." He added that several aspects of gene splicing "...may be
more hazardous."

Dr. Linda Kahl, an FDA compliance officer, objected that the agency was
"...trying to fit a square peg into a round hole ... [by] trying to force
an ultimate conclusion that there is no difference between foods modified
by genetic engineering and foods modified by traditional breeding
practices." She stated: "The processes of genetic engineering and
traditional breeding are different, and according to the technical experts
in the agency, they lead to different risks."
Moreover, Dr. Jim Maryanski, the FDA Biotechnology Coordinator,
acknowledged there is no consensus about the safety of genetically
engineered foods in the scientific community at large, and FDA scientists
advised they should undergo special testing, including toxicological tests.


Misrepresenting the Facts in Order to Approve the Foods

Nonetheless, so strong was the FDA's motivation to promote the biotech
industry that it not only disregarded the warnings of its own scientists
about the unique risks of gene-spliced foods, it dismissed them and took a
public position that was the opposite. Its official policy asserts: "The
agency is not aware of any information showing that foods derived by these
new methods differ from other foods in any meaningful or uniform way"
Thus, although agency experts advised that genetically engineered foods
should be subjected to special testing, the bureaucrats in charge of the
policy proclaimed these foods require no testing at all.

Violating Federal Law

Besides violating basic canons of ethics, the FDA's behavior flagrantly
violates the U.S. Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, which mandates that new food
additives be established safe through testing prior to marketing. While the
FDA admits 

[CTRL] LANDMARK LAWSUIT CHALLENGES FDA POLICY

1999-12-02 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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LANDMARK LAWSUIT CHALLENGES FDA POLICY ON GENETICALLY ENGINEERED FOOD
EMINENT SCIENTISTS, HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS DEMAND
ADEQUATE SAFETY TESTING AND MANDATORY LABELING
CHARGE AGENCY WITH IGNORING SIGNIFICANT HEALTH RISKS,VIOLATING CONSUMER
RIGHTS, AND INFRINGING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

On May 27, 1998, the Alliance for Bio-Integrity led an unprecedented
coalition of scientists, health professionals, religious leaders, and
consumers in filing a lawsuit against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
(FDA) to obtain mandatory safety testing and labeling of all genetically
engineered foods. The suit alleges that current FDA policy, which permits
such altered foods to be marketed without testing and labels, violates the
agency's statutory mandate to protect public health and provide consumers
with relevant information about the foods they eat. It also charges that
the policy violates religious freedom.

The Alliance assembled the coalition and coordinated the suit, which was
filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. and was followed by a
press conference at the National Press Club which was televised by C-Span.
The Washington-based International Center for Technology Assessment (CTA)
collaborated in organizing the suit and is serving as lead counsel. Both
the Alliance for Bio-Integrity and the CTA are nonprofit organizations
dedicated to the protection of human health and the environment through
sustainable and safe technologies.

The Need for Stronger Safety Testing

The FDA does not require testing of genetically engineered foods because it
regards them to be as safe as their natural counterparts. This policy is
based on the assumption that piecemeal, haphazard insertion of genes from
distant and dissimilar species into an organism's DNA is substantially
equivalent to sexual reproduction between like organisms, in which entire
sets of genes are combined in a harmonious and ordered manner. The lawsuit
alleges that this assumption is false, since it ignores the unpredictable
disruptions that the foreign genes can cause in their new system. Through
these disruptions, familiar foods can become toxic or carcinogenic.

Such disruptive influence remains the most probable explanation for the
contamination of a genetically engineered food supplement, L-tryptophan,
with a novel and highly toxic ingredient. This toxin caused dozens of
deaths and thousands of serious illnesses. There is also a substantial risk
that foreign DNA can cause foods to become allergenic, especially since
many engineered foods contain substances that have never been in the human
food supply.

To emphasize the scientific unsoundness of the FDA's policy, many
distinguished scientists and health professionals from institutions such as
Northwestern University Medical School, NYU Medical School, Rutgers
University, and the University of California at Berkeley have agreed to
join as plaintiffs. They support the allegation that FDA policy does not
adequately screen for the many risks associated with genetically engineered
foods and must require rigorous long-term testing before any product is
marketed. (A list of the scientist plaintiffs appears at the end of this
document.)

The Need for Labeling: Both Secular and Religious Reasons

At least 36 different genetically engineered whole foods are currently
being sold without identifying labels. These include potatoes, tomatoes,
soy, corn, squash and many other fruits and vegetables to which a variety
of new genes from different species have been added. These genetically
reconfigured foods are also used as ingredients in processed foods and have
been found in a number of mass consumed products such as soy-based baby
formulas and popular corn chip brands. Because of FDA's failure to require
labeling, millions of American infants, children and adults are consuming
genetically engineered products each day without their knowledge.

As a purely secular matter, the plaintiffs allege that because such foods
have been implanted with foreign genes and the substances they produce, FDA
policy violates those sections of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act which (a)
require that substances added to food be labeled, (b) prohibit "false or
misleading" labeling, and (c) mandate disclosure of material facts. While
this lack of labeling restricts the right of all consumers to make informed
choices, it is especially injurious to people with uncommon food allergies.
Numerous individuals with such allergies pleaded for labeling during FDA's
formal comment period in 1992 but were ignored. Some of them have now
joined as plaintiffs.

As a spiritual matter, millions of Americans feel obligated to refrain from
some or all genetically altered foods on the basis of religious principle.
Many Jews and Muslims want to avoid foods with substances from specific
animals while devout vegetarians want to avoid substances from any animal.
Additionally, a considerable portion of the population is 

[CTRL] Declaration of Dr. Richard Lacey re: GM Foods

1999-12-02 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

ALLIANCE FOR BIO-INTEGRITY, et al.  Plaintiffs  v.  DONNA SHALALA, et al.
Defendants. )  )  )  )  )  )  )  )  )  )Civil Action No. 98-1300 (CKK)
P.  DECLARATION OF  Dr. Richard Lacey, M.D., Ph.D.


I, Richard Lacey, state:

1. I reside at Carlton Manor near Yeadon, Leeds, 197BE, United Kingdom.

2. I earned both a B.A. in biochemistry and an M.D. from the University of
Cambridge and a Ph.D. in genetics from the University of Bristol. Since
1971, I have been a member of the Royal College of Pathologists, and since
1983, I have been Professor of Medical Microbiology at the University of
Leeds. (I have been on Emeritus status since 1995.)

3. I am an expert in food safety issues, and my background makes me
especially qualified to assess the potential risks of genetically
engineered food products. I served four years on a U.K. government advisory
panel on food as it relates to human and animal health, and I have written
five books on food safety, including one published by Cambridge University
Press in 1994 containing a detailed discussion of genetically engineered
food. (This book has been translated into Japanese and Polish.) In
addition, I have written over 200 articles published in standard scientific
journals and attended and spoken at numerous scientific conferences both in
the U.K. and abroad. (A list of my publications and honors is attached.)

4. In 1989, I anticipated that there could be serious health risks to the
British cattle and human populations from the practice of feeding cattle
rendered meat from sheep and other animals. I published my warnings in Food
Microbiology, 1990. In this article, I explained the nature of the malady
that could result. This was the first prediction of what eventually became
the "mad cow" epidemic in the United Kingdom. Unfortunately, the
governmental authorities were slow to respond to my warning. Had they
properly assessed and acted upon the information I presented, much hardship
would have been avoided, and the citizens would not have been subjected to
as high a degree of risk. (Because of the long latency period between
exposure to the infectious agent and development of symptoms, there is a
potential for widespread incidence of infection within the British public
over the next forty years.)

5. It is my considered judgment that employing the process of recombinant
DNA technology (genetic engineering) in producing new plant varieties
entails a set of risks to the health of the consumer that are not
ordinarily presented by traditional breeding techniques. It is also my
considered judgment that food products derived from such genetically
engineered organisms are not generally recognized as safe on the basis of
scientific procedures within the community of experts qualified to assess
their safety. Paragraphs 6 through 10 explain why these new foods entail
higher risks, and paragraphs 12 through 15 explain why none of them is
generally recognized as safe.

6. Recombinant DNA technology is an inherently risky method for producing
new foods. Its risks are in large part due to the complexity and
interdependency of the parts of a living system, including its DNA. Wedging
foreign genetic material in an essentially random manner into an organism's
genome necessarily causes some degree of disruption, and the disruption
could be multi-faceted. Further, whether singular or multi-faceted, the
disruptive influence could well result in the presence of unexpected toxins
or allergens or in the degradation of nutritional value. Further, because
of the complexity and interactivity of living systems -- and because of the
extent to which our understanding of them is still quite deficient -- it is
impossible to predict what specific problems could result in the case of
any particular genetically engineered organism. Prediction is even more
difficult because even when dealing with one variety of a food-producing
organism and one particular set of foreign genetic material, each insertion
event is unique and can yield deeply different results.

7. The mechanics and risks of recombinant DNA technology are substantially
different from those of natural methods of breeding. The latter are
typically based on sexual reproduction between organisms of the same or
closely related species. Normally, entire sets of genes are paired in an
orderly manner that maintains a fixed sequence of genetic information.
Every gene remains under the control of the organism's intricately balanced
regulatory system. The substances produced by the genes are those that have
been within the species for a long stretch of biological time. (In cases
where mating is between 

[CTRL] Declaration of Philip Regal, Ph.D. re: GM Foods

1999-12-02 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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original, with the same wording. This is not a photocopy, which accounts
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

ALLIANCE FOR BIO-INTEGRITY, et al.  Plaintiffs  v.  DONNA SHALALA, et al.
Defendants. )  )  )  )  )  )  )  )  )  )Civil Action No. 98-1300 (CKK)
P.  DECLARATION OF  PHILIP J. REGAL, Ph.D.

I, Philip J. Regal, state:

l. I am a biologist in the College of Biological Sciences and am Professor
of Ecology, Behavior and Evolution at the University of Minnesota (St.
Paul), where I have been on the faculty since 1970.

2. I have made several important contributions to the study of plant
biology, particularly in the area of how genetics relates to adaptability
and organization of organisms. I have nine publications on this particular
topic among my contributions to the peer reviewed scientific literature. (A
list of my publications and key presentations is attached.)

3. Since 1983, I have closely studied various safety issues concerning the
use of recombinant DNA technology (RDNA technology; genetic engineering) to
develop new plant varieties. My involvement has been both intensive and
extensive. I have attended and sometimes organized scientific biosafety
workshops for government agencies and scientific societies, presented at
conferences, and published articles on agricultural genetic engineering in
the scientific literature. I have consulted for and worked closely with
government regulatory agencies, Congressional staff, scientific
organizations, private corporations, and public interest groups.

4. It is my professional opinion that utilizing RDNA technology in
production of food-producing organisms can be very powerful biologically
and very different biologically from conventional forms of breeding. It
entails a set of risks to human health that are not ordinarily associated
with the latter. Such use of RDNA technology has the well-recognized
potential to interfere with the normal activities of the engineered
organism, for example so as to generate unexpected and unknown toxins,
carcinogens, allergens and other anti-nutritive substances.

5. My own analyses, as well as a substantial body of published research,
clearly establish that these types of unintended side effects are risks
that cannot be lightly discounted. Moreover, although I have kept abreast
of developments in biotechnology and have regularly read the relevant
scientific literature, I am not aware of any reliable study published in
the peer-reviewed scientific literature which demonstrates that these risks
are categorically either (1) negligible or (2) no greater than in the case
of conventionally produced organisms. Nor am I aware of even one such
peer-reviewed, professionally published study which has detailed scientific
criteria for testing and evaluation and gone on to demonstrate that even
one particular genetically engineered food is reasonably certain to produce
no harm when eaten by a human being.

6. Rather, it is my considered judgment that the evidence to date, in its
entirety, indicates there are scientifically justified concerns about the
safety of genetically engineered foods and that some of them could be quite
dangerous. Further, in the absence of reliable toxicological tests, it is
not possible to determine which of these new foods are dangerous and which
are not.

7. It is also my observation that there is not general recognition of the
safety of genetically engineered foods among those members of the
scientific community qualified to make such a judgment. In fact, it has
been my personal experience over numerous years that many of those experts
who publicly subscribe to the position that these foods are as safe as
their natural counterparts privately admit they have serious doubts. For
instance, when I attended a conference on biotechnology in Annapolis,
Maryland in 1988, at which many officials from federal regulatory agencies
(including the FDA) were present, I was shocked to learn the extent of
uncertainty. In informal discussions at meals and on walks, government
scientist after scientist acknowledged there was no way to assure the
safety of genetically engineered foods. Several expressed the idea that, in
order to take this important step of progress, society was going to have to
bear an unavoidable measure of risk.

8. Consequently, I am deeply troubled by the FDA's decision to permit the
widespread marketing of untested genetically food products based on a
stated presumption they are, in the general case, equivalent to, and thus
are as safe as, their natural counterparts. As I have pointed out, there is
no sound scientific basis for such a presumption and the weight of the
evidence is against it. It is my considered opinion that such a presumption
can only be made by 

[CTRL] Presentation for FDA Public Meeting, 11-30-1999

1999-12-02 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alliance for Bio-Integrity Home

ALLIANCE FOR BI0-INTEGRITY  Dedicated to Preserving the Safety of Our Food,
the Health of Our Environment,  and the Harmony of Our Relationship with
Nature  P.O. Box 110, Iowa City, Iowa 52244-0110 Voice: (515) 472-5554; Fax
(515) 472-6431  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Web: www.biointegrity.org

PRESENTATION FOR FDA PUBLIC MEETING, NOV. 30, 1999  WASHINGTON, D.C.  Panel
on Scientific, Safety, and Regulatory Issues  Steven M. Druker, J.D.
Executive Director


A. Introduction  I am very pleased to be here, and I commend you,
Commissioner Henney, for holding these meetings. I am also somewhat
surprised to be here, since I am one of the strongest critics of your
agency's policy on bioengineered foods and have coordinated a major lawsuit
against it--a suit which is pending in U.S. District Court. The fact you
have invited me indicates not only that you are interested in hearing from
all sides, but suggests that you are also open to making meaningful
changes.

B. FDA Policy is Scientifically Unsound  This is encouraging, since current
FDA policy is sorely in need of change. While it claims to be
science-based, it is seriously out of line with the standards of science --
and with the requirements of federal law.



1. Eminent Scientists Fault the Policy for Ignoring Biological Reality
Numerous experts both here and abroad have criticized FDA policy as
scientifically flawed, and nine of these experts are so concerned about the
extent to which they view it as unsound and irresponsible that they have
taken the unprecedented step of becoming plaintiffs in the lawsuit my
organization is leading to amend the policy and institute mandatory,
rigorous safety testing of all genetically engineered foods. These
scientist-plaintiffs are eminent, and their concerns deserve attention.
They include a professor of molecular and cell biology at the University of
California at Berkeley, a respected molecular biologist at the State
University of New York, and the associate director of targeted mutagenics
at Northwestern University Medical School. This latter scientist routinely
employs bioengineering in the medical field, but is troubled it is being
used in food production without adequate safeguards. Also included is
Professor Philip Regal, an internationally renowned plant biologist at the
University of Minnesota, who has stated in a sworn declaration to the court
"... there are scientifically justified concerns about the safety of
genetically engineered foods and some of them could be quite dangerous."

Why are our nine plaintiffs and so many other scientists so concerned about
FDA policy? They think the agency is disregarding the well-recognized
potential for recombinant DNA techniques to produce unexpected toxins and
carcinogens in a different manner and to a different degree than do
conventional methods. For one thing, the foreign genetic material
invariably disrupts the region of host DNA into which it wedges, and this
can adversely alter cellular function. Another source of potential problems
is the routine practice of fusing powerful promoters from viruses or
pathogenic bacteria to the transferred genes. This is necessary because
genes ordinarily do not express well when implanted within a foreign
cellular environment. However, besides boosting the foreign genes, these
promoters can cause overexpression (or even suppression) of surrounding
native genes. Further, these foreign promoters cause the transgenes to act
independently of the host organism's intricate control mechanisms and to
express their products in an essentially unregulated manner. This
unregulated flow of foreign substances can upset complex biochemical
feedback loops. Moreover, these powerful agents can activate metabolic
pathways that are ordinarily inactive.

Each of the above types of disruption can induce unexpected toxins,
carcinogens or allergens -- or degrade nutritional value in an
unpredictable manner.

Unfortunately, the FDA's official position ignores this heightened
potential for unpredictable negative side effects. Rather, the agency
focuses almost exclusively on the factors that are known: the transferred
genetic material and the substances it is known to produce. In effect, it
is evaluating each transgenic substance as if it were an ingredient mixed
into a pre-existing food rather than as a factor that can cause
unpredictable deleterious changes in the developmental process of a food
organism. As one of our plaintiffs, the respected molecular biologist Dr.
Liebe Cavalieri has stated, such an approach is "simplistic if not simple
minded."

2. Numerous FDA Scientists Have Warned About the Risks of Bioengineered
Food

What is especially troubling is that the risks the FDA is systematically
ignoring are not only recognized by eminent experts outside the agency but
by numerous scientists on its own staff. This came to light when the FDA
had to give us 

[CTRL] Emily Post on the Web (fwd)

1999-12-02 Thread Yardbird

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Maybe this is the trick for list etiquette :)



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[CTRL] False century change

1999-12-02 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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All know (or should know :) the 3rd millenium start at 1/1/2001, not 1/1/2000.

Why the media *stimulates* the wrong? I bet the Illuminati have a finger at that.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Non-corporate real news from Seattle's WTO scene]

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Non-Corporate Real News From the Independent Media Center in Seattle

IMC Daily Digest: The Seattle Lockdown
December 1, 1999

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Anti-WTO protestors have shut Seattle down.

While a 'state of emergency' clamps down on the city for the
second night, the people's newsroom at the Independent Media
Center is buzzing. Over 400 IMC media producers are now collaborating
to post, uplink, and print their stories of protest, analysis,
outrage, and hope.

Armed with cell phones, laptop computers, tape recorders, cameras,
and a shoestring budget, media activists are using the Center=EDs
website at www.indymedia.org to broadcast their stories. Video
interviews and street footage are edited and uplinked to satellite,
and articles are being published in The Blind Spot daily.

While protests continue and brutal police tactics remain unchecked,
the IMC continues to receive live reports from its video, print,
audio, and photo teams despite a 7 pm curfew. In this, the first
of the Independent Media Center=EDs daily digests, you can see,
hear or read stories being produced by the IMC collective:

Photo: Confrontation at 4th and Pike, 3:30pm PST
by gazette webcam
4:54pm Tue Nov 30 '99
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=3D146

Article: Turtles and Teamsters Unite Against Patent on Life
by Sue Ellen White
7:22pm Wed Dec 1 '99
Patents on life itself already exist and a teach-in today featuring
Ralph Nader aimed to mobilize farmers, environmentalists, labor,
scientists, and citizens against the WTO's agreements on intellectual
property.
http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=3D267

Article: Arrested Refuse to Comply with Booking
by Ben Grad
11:48pm Wed Dec 1 '99
More than 450 arrested, and a seriously significant majority
is both refusing to give their info, they won't get off the buses.

http://216.173.206.96/imc/display.php3?article_id=3D284

Audio: Cell Phone Interview with Arrestees
by Asha Confer
7:27pm Wed 

[CTRL] Nigeria on verge of AIDS explosion

1999-12-02 Thread Tatman, Robert

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http://cnn.com/1999/WORLD/africa/12/01/bc.aids.nigeria.reut/index.html
Nigeria on verge of AIDS explosion, says study

December 1, 1999
Web posted at: 12:26 PM EST (1726 GMT)

LAGOS, Nigeria (Reuters) -- Nigeria is on the verge of an AIDS explosion
that could kill millions and wreak untold economic damage, a new report
warned on Thursday.

The study released to coincide with World AIDS day showed overall HIV
infection rates in Africa's most populous nation of 5.4 percent, climbing as
high as 21 percent in the worst affected areas.

"Having reached prevalence of over five percent Nigeria has entered the
stage where the epidemic is likely to increase at an exponential rate if
adequate national response is not mounted," the study said.

Like other West African countries, Nigeria has been less severely affected
by the epidemic than eastern and southern Africa.

But its population of more than 108 million means that it already has more
people infected with the HIV virus which leads to AIDS than many other
African countries.

"This is bound to have a major socio-economic impact on Nigerian society,
including reduced life expectancy, increased burden of medical care,
increase in the number of orphans and decline in economic growth," the
report said.

Researchers say any change in sexual behaviour as a result of fear of
infection has been limited, even following the 1997 death of popular and
extremely promiscuous Afrobeat musician Fela Anikulapo-Kuti from an AIDS
related illness.

Fighting HIV infection has not been the highest priority in a country where
diseases like malaria and diarrhoea kill much more quickly and health
structures are left dilapidated after the end this year of 15 years of
corrupt military rule.

President Olusegun Obasanjo has promised to make the fight against AIDS a
priority despite his other challenges of ending murderous ethnic conflicts
and reviving a moribund economy.

"President Obasanjo said that he was determined to personally lead the
national war against the scourge," a statement from the presidency said on
Wednesday, adding that a comprehensive programme would soon be put in place.

In some parts of Nigeria it is already too late to stop the explosion,
spread mostly by heterosexual intercourse.

The report showed that HIV infection rates had increased by as much as 700
percent in the worst hit regions since the last survey in 1995 and said 4.9
million Nigerians could be infected over the next five years.

United Nations projections released in August showed infection could reach
10 percent of the population by 2005.

Worst hit according to the report are Benue and Taraba states -- two key
agricultural areas -- in northern central Nigeria, southeastern Akwa Ibom
and Ebonyi States, and the big commercial centres of southwestern Lagos and
northern Kaduna.

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[CTRL] Kindergarten killing: Tale of pressure and jealousy grips Japan

1999-12-02 Thread Tatman, Robert

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http://cnn.com/1999/ASIANOW/east/12/01/japan.kindergarten.ap/index.html

Kindergarten killing: Tale of pressure and jealousy grips Japan

December 2, 1999
Web posted at: 12:47 p.m. HKT (0447 GMT)

TOKYO (AP) -- The Japanese way of education often means unrelenting pressure
on families, biting competition between children and fiery jealousy among
parents.

But could it also mean murder?

The Japanese have been asking that question since a housewife was arrested
last week in the slaying of a 2-year-old girl -- and the media linked the
crime to entrance exams for elite kindergartens.

Details remain fuzzy, and reports emerged Tuesday that the 35-year-old
suspect, who turned herself into police, has denied she acted out of
jealousy over the child's academic success.

But whatever the motive, the crime has ignited a wide-ranging debate over
Japan's cut-throat education practices.

The story has been splashed across newspapers and TV talk shows for days.
The government has promised to consider education reforms. Critics are using
it as fodder for tirades against schools and society.

"People have this illusion that if you go to a good school, a happy life is
waiting for you," said Gentaro Kawakami, a sociologist and education
specialist. "In Japan these days we are raising children as if we were
training animals."

At the center of the case is Mitsuko Yamada, who is accused of taking Haruna
Wakayama from a nursery school playground in central Tokyo and strangling
her with a scarf in a public bathroom. She then allegedly buried the child's
body at her parents' house, 110 miles away.

Police will only say that Yamada, who was taken into custody Nov. 25, had
"clashes" with the victim's mother. Both women had two children the same
ages, 2 and 5.

Japanese media, meanwhile, have been rife with accounts from neighbors and
police that Haruna had recently passed an entrance exam at an elite
kindergarten, while Yamada's daughter failed an initial random drawing to
apply -- and that Yamada could not control her jealousy.

For many Japanese, it isn't hard to imagine the brutal pressure of the
education system driving someone to murder.

Competitive entrance exams have long been the key to academic and social
success in Japan. In recent decades, the race has become so intense that
parents are pushing even infants to take the tests.

The hope for such families is a spot in an elite kindergarten like the one
Haruna had won. Passing such an exam, which tests manners and knowledge of
things like colors, guarantees eventual entry to the schools' affiliated,
prestigious universities.

The pressure can be especially crushing in Japan, where a premium on
conformity makes keeping up with the Joneses almost an obsession,
particularly in districts of Tokyo where top schools _ and hopeful parents
-- are clustered.

"The overheating of competition among very young children is a real
problem," Education Minister Hirofumi Nakasone said Tuesday. "The ministry
has been studying this ... and we will take the appropriate steps."

The crime has also thrown a critical spotlight on the lives of urban
housewives, many of whom are cut off from extended families and left by
work-obsessed husbands to raise children on their own.

With almost no life outside their homes, these women -- called "education
mamas" -- measure their own self-worth by the academic achievements of their
children, critics say.

"Some mothers of the younger generation live in a very closed world," said
Kawakami. "They have really limited relations with others, and you don't get
a sense they are really living their lives."

The killing, following other sensational crimes like a teen-ager's beheading
of an 11-year-old two years ago, has also bolstered claims that the
materialism and alienation of wealthy Japan have eclipsed the country's
traditional values.

"Are ... people's minds malfunctioning?" the Asahi newspaper asked in an
editorial Saturday. "Or are the good qualities in our society, like
tolerance and modesty, wearing down?"

Of course, not all Japanese are obsessed with entrance exams.

Yoshiko Kato, 41, mother of two in a working-class district of Tokyo, said
it was "stupid" for families to spend so much time and money to get their
toddlers into high-class schools.

But she could see how the pressure could get to someone.

"If I was in that group, maybe I could share those feelings," she said,
playing with her 4-year-old in a park. "But killing someone is just not
normal."

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Re: [CTRL] WTO, Sleepless in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread pmeares

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nessie wrote:

 If violence is not a wholly appropriate method for dealing with people who
 exploit slave labor, then the American Civil War was a mistake.

The pretense that the "abolition of slavery" was either
a motive or justification for the war, is a fraud of
the same character with that of "maintaining the
national honor." Who, but such usurpers, robbers, and
murderers as they, ever established slavery? Or what
government, except one resting upon the sword, like the
one we now have, was ever capable of maintaining
slavery? And why did these men abolish slavery? Not
from any love of liberty in general---not as an act of
justice to the black man himself, but only "as a war
measure," and because they wanted his assistance, and
that of his friends, in carrying on the war they had
undertaken for maintaining and intensifying that
political, commercial, and industrial slavery, to which
they have subjected the great body of the people, both
black and white. And yet these imposters now cry out
that they have abolished the chattel slavery of the
black man---although that was not the motive of the
war---as if they thought they could thereby conceal,
atone for, or justify that other slavery which they
were fighting to perpetuate, and to render more
rigorous and inexorable than it ever was before.
There was no difference of principle---but only of
degree---between the slavery they boast they have
abolished, and the slavery they were fighting to
preserve; for all restraints upon men's natural
liberty, not necessary for the simple maintenance
of justice, are of the nature of slavery, and
differ from each other only in degree.

If their object had really been to abolish slavery,
or maintain liberty or justice generally, they had only
to say: All, whether white or black, who want the
protection of this government, shall have it; and all
who do not want it, will be left in peace, so long as
they leave us in peace. Had they said this, slavery
would necessarily have been abolished at once; the war
would have been saved; and a thousand times nobler
union than we have ever had would have been the result.
It would have been a voluntary union of free men; such
a union as will one day exist among all men, the world
over, if the several nations, so called, shall ever get
rid of the usurpers, robbers, and murderers, called
governments, that now plunder, enslave, and destroy
them

The lesson taught by all these facts is this: As
long as mankind continue to pay "national debts,"
so-called---that is, so long as they are such dupes
and cowards as to pay for being cheated, plundered,
enslaved, and murdered -- so long there will be enough
to lend the money for those purposes; and with that
money a plenty of tools, called soldiers (police), can
be hired to keep them in subjection. But when they refuse
any longer to pay for being thus cheated, plundered,
enslaved, and murdered, they will cease to have cheats,
and usurpers, and robbers, and murderers and
blood-money loan-mongers for masters.

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #5 - 12/02/99

1999-12-02 Thread Ric Carter

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@ A Botanical Clock: http://www.mjt.org/exhibits/sunflower.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SUN  SCHIZOPHRENIA. El Niño, a climate phenomenon that brings drought to
  eastern Australia, may also reduce cases of schizophrenia. Researchers
  found that fewer people born in El Niño years developed schizophrenia in
  later life: http://www.newscientist.co.uk/ns/19991113/nshorts.html#16

@ The Tectonic Theory  UFOs. -- Here is a look at the possibility that
  alien abductions are purely psychological "dreams" caused by seismic
  activity. http://xprojectmagazine.com/archives/skeptic/altpara6.html

: Would you rather be schizophrenic or abducted? Does El Niño trump seismic
activity? How many experiential phenomena are controlled by the environment?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# What's Behind the WTO Ruckus? The Battle of Seattle makes for great TV 
  street reporting, but the mayhem obscures real, global, human concerns.
  http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,32825,00.html?tw=wn19991202

# Update - Provocateurs Noted In Seattle Riots:
  http://www.sightings.com/politics5/gasm.htm
# Instant Net Coverage Of Seattle Events:
  http://www.sightings.com/politics5/seat.htm

: What's your favorite urban riot? Do you provoke disturbances? Are you well
paid? Who do you work for? Who benefits from the disruptions? Who suffers??

# COPS STIFLE WTO DEMOS - FOR NOW: http://cnn.com/1999/US/12/02/wto.04/
@ Other Coverage - FlashPoints: http://www.flashpoints.net/
 DemocracyNow: http://www.kpfa.org/1pro_bio/1b_democ.htm
 CounterSpin: http://www.kpfa.org/1pro_bio/1b_count.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Defending Privacy Snooping. Collecting, storing  selling your personal
  data has many positives, not the least of which is helping grow the econ-
  omy. That's what a credit-reporting exec told a financial privacy confab.
  http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,32826,00.html?tw=wn19991202

: Do you mind if your privacy is just slightly compromised? Should/must/will
privacy be sacrificed for economic vitality? Would you rather be prosperous
or hidden? If you're rich enough, can you buy privacy? Are the super-rich
super-private? Are poor people worth knowing anything about? Are you public?

# He Won't Join Amazon's 'Kampf' - The online bookseller's ban of selling
  Hitler's infamous diatribe in Germany is a perfect example of not learning
  from past, horrible mistakes. Fight evil words with good words, not bans:
  http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,32835,00.html?tw=wn19991202
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# NASA Changes Its Mars Approach. All systems are go for NASA's Mars Polar
  Lander rendezvous. But the shadow of the lost Mars Climate Orbiter looms
  large. www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32670,00.html?tw=wn19991202

# Lander Camera Will Capture Martian Surface As Never Seen Before: From Only
  A Few Feet Up. For just under 2 minutes, a camera aimed at the south polar
  region of Mars will capture  store a series of about 20 images unique in
  the annals of planetary exploration: the surface of a planet (other than
  the moon) as seen from altitudes ranging from about 4 miles to only about
  30 feet. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/12/991202070515.htm

: Have you lost any spacecraft lately? Are you cautious, cowardly, scared?
Do you hover nervously over a planetary surface, afraid to touch down? Have
you taken tranquilizers? Do you see clearly? Do your voices calm you down??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Predicting the flu of the future. (BBC) Evolutionary scientists have come
  up with a way of successfully predicting which strain of influenza will
  strike in the following year. And they might even be right this time.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_547000/547318.stm

# Also: Secrets of killer flu unearthed:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_523000/523163.stm
# Another flu drug on the way:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_467000/467269.stm
# Scientists develop lifelong flu vaccine:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_465000/465584.stm

: How well can you predict evolution? Can you predict evolution better if
you control it? Who runs the flu-development conspiracy? Why do they breed
new flu varieties? What's their agenda? Do you feel sick? Are you immune??

# Neanderthals Worked Themselves to Death. An anthropologist studying the
  diets and bone strength of ancient hominids and Neanderthals says the
  Neanderthals had to work harder to do the same things as the hominids.
  http://www.discovery.com/news/archive/news991119/brief2.html?ct=38432988
_ _ _ _ _ _ 

[CTRL] Separatists raise flag in Indonesia's Irian Jaya province

1999-12-02 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

http://cnn.com/ASIANOW/southeast/9912/01/indonesia.01/index.html

Separatists raise flag in Indonesia's Irian Jaya province

December 1, 1999
Web posted at: 6:04 p.m. HKT (1004 GMT)

JAYAPURA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Tens of thousands of people participated in the
raising of a separatist flag and demanded independence from Indonesia during
a peaceful demonstration on Wednesday in the capital of Irian Jaya province.


The protest was held despite overtures by Indonesian President Abdurrahman
Wahid link.wahid.jpg on Tuesday seeking reconciliation with other restive
regions of the world's fourth-largest nation, which has about 200 million
residents.

The "Morning Star" flag was raised before the Indonesian flag. No violence
was reported during the ceremony, which was under tight police security. The
event began with a service performed by a Protestant priest. The separatist
flag was also raised in other areas of Irian Jaya.

"We reject the offer for autonomy -- Independence is the only choice. We
demand the withdrawal of the military from Irian Jaya before May 1, 2000,"
pro-independent leader Theys Eluay said.

Calls for independence grow

Residents of the huge and remote province have joined a growing number of
Indonesians in other regions seeking to secede from the nation after what
many consider to be decades of oppressive Jakarta rule.

Irian Jaya accounts for 20 percent of Indonesia's land area, but it only has
two million people. The province has large gold and copper mines, and many
believe it has oil and mineral deposits.

On Tuesday, Wahid confirmed he plans to approve an amnesty for the 21 East
Timorese political prisoners being held in Indonesia's jails. Eighteen of
the detainees are being kept in Jakarta's Cipinang prison.

The issue of release of the prisoners was raised Tuesday by East Timorese
independence leader Jose Alexandre "Xanana" Gusmao  and East Timor's Nobel
peace laureate Jose Ramos-Horta during a meeting with Wahid.

"We had pain, bitterness, sweet memories and other things together here,"
Gusmao, once a political prisoner who spent part of his seven-year detention
in Cipinang, said during a visit before meeting Wahid.

Gusmao, expected to be the first leader of a free East Timor, said he also
asked Wahid to help with the repatriation of 130,000 East Timorese refugees
in Indonesian-held West Timor. The Indonesian president vowed to establish
close ties with East Timor, and to make amends for his nation's occupation
of the region.

Wahid: 'Very good meeting'

"All in all, this was a very good meeting and the two countries now can
continue to look to the future and forget about the past," Wahid said.

East Timor voted on August 30 to secede from Indonesia, sparking a rampage
of killing, burning and looting by Indonesian forces and their allies.
Hundreds of thousands of people were forced to flee. Damage estimates are in
the hundreds of millions of dollars. A U.N. team, which will guide the
region into independence in two years, is administering East Timor.

Australian opposition leader Kim Beazley told reporters in East Timor on
Wednesday that East Timorese refugees in Australia should be allowed to stay
until conditions in the former colony improve.

"If East Timor wants to prosper, to survive, it must forgive," Ramos-Horta
said. "It must heal the wounds ... There is not other way. The East Timorese
who have had such enormous courage in fighting and resisting must also have
equal courage to forgive."

In a separate act of reconciliation on Tuesday, Wahid revealed he has
secretly tried to meet with the exiled leader of the main separatist group
in strife-torn Aceh province. The president added he plans to send a
personal envoy to Stockholm, Sweden, to meet Acehnese rebel leader Hassan
Tiro.

Aceh residents have stepped up their calls for an independence vote in
recent weeks. Wahid has said he opposes a vote on secession, but is willing
to allow a referendum on whether Islamic law should be imposed in the
largely Muslim province.

Rebel guerrillas, who have been fighting for independence in Aceh for 23
years, said they plan to mark the anniversary on Saturday in a "big way,"
but haven't provided additional details.

"Let's see whether there will be a big event. We'll see whether it's true or
not," Wahid told CNN.

Three die in latest violence

Three civilians were killed on Tuesday in two separate clashes between
rebels and security forces in Aceh, police confirmed. Wahid told CNN he will
hold the military accountable for its actions in both Aceh and East Timor.

"The most important thing now is that if there is, a big if, if there is
wrongdoing from our side, then we'll try to correct them," he said.

But Ramos-Horta said East Timor's so-called militias are "small fish." Most
of the militias, he suggested, have been terrorized into committing the
atrocities in the region.

"If the militia leaders return, face their people, acknowledge what they
did, explain why they did 

[CTRL] PRIVACY Forum

1999-12-02 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 From: PRIVACY Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999
 Subj: PRIVACY Forum Digest V08 #17

 PRIVACY Forum Digest - Tuesday, 30 November 1999 - Vol 08, Issue 17

 (http://www.vortex.com/privacy/priv.08.17)

  Moderated by Lauren Weinstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Vortex Technology, Woodland Hills, CA, U.S.A.
   http://www.vortex.com

 CONTENTS

  -- Animated Cursors Silently Collecting User Browsing Data
  (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)

  -- Big Brother Wants Your Medical Records (Dawn Richardson)

  -- Group formed to oppose supermarket "loyalty" cards
  (Katherine Albrecht)

 ---

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)
 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 99 12:32 PST
 Subject: Animated Cursors Silently Collecting User Browsing Data


 Greetings.  The "Spies in Your Software" saga continues onward,
 as analysis of various software's network activities in various
 quarters continue to reveal new (but unfortunately not really
 unexpected) surprises.

 In the latest chapter, users of the popular Comet Systems' animated
 cursors (for Microsoft Windows systems) have learned that the
 cursors (reportedly in use by many millions of persons) have
 silently been feeding information concerning the sites they visit
 back to Comet for the firm's analysis and use.  Unlike the more
 common situations where Global Identifiers and related data are
 passed only to the particular server to which a user connects,
 in this case the information is being fed back to Comet itself,
 whenever the user visits any of the many 10's of 1000's of
 affiliated sites.  The vast array of sites involved include many
 oriented towards children, as well as popular comic-strip sites
 (such as "Dilbert" and others).

 I spoke at length today with Comet's marketing director, who
 defended their practices.  He contends that the information
 collected is "anonymous" since they do not collect names, e-mail
 addresses, or other personally-identifiable information, and that
 the information they do collect is maintained only in aggregate
 form for their paying clients, and is purged of other data before
 distribution to those clients.  He stated that he feels concerns
 about *possible* abuse of collected data in the future (say, after
 an acquisition, or other policy change) are purely theoretical and
 are not realistic.

 One of my main concerns is that it would not seem obvious to most
 users that an animated cursor should or would be sending *any*
 information back to a central point.  His reaction to my suggestion
 that the software clearly inform users that there would be
 information flowing back to Comet was fascinating.  He expressed
 the opinion that there was no need for this since the information
 was "anonymous"--and that since most people just "click through"
 license agreements anyway without reading them, there wasn't any
 point to bothering people with lots of stuff to read through before
 installation.  He also suggested that forcing vendors or sites to
 provide such information on a routine basis would create a "police
 state" (his exact words) environment.  He did however agree that
 the lack of regulation creates a situation where each company has
 to make these determinations on their own, and admitted that it
 would be a lot easier if it were clearly spelled out what they
 could or couldn't do.

 In response to the current furor, Comet has posted a new privacy
 policy, with links that appear on the main download pages for the
 cursors and at other points.  However, they have chosen not to
 provide information on those pages to clue people in to the fact
 that there is anything about the cursors which might relate
 specifically to privacy concerns, so how many people will choose to
 read the privacy links is unclear.  Also, depending on Javascript
 and browser security settings (*particularly* of concern with
 Microsoft Internet Explorer), it is possible that the cursors might
 be downloaded automatically without the user ever seeing the
 privacy link information.

 Comet has also posted instructions regarding removal of the cursors
 from your system.  The main information is at:

http://www.cometsystems.com/download/cleaner.shtml

 Microsoft IE users would need to take some additional steps
 detailed at:

http://download.cometsystems.com/no_nag/nonag.asp

 to avoid having sites continue to bug them about downloading the
 cursors. Unfortunately and ironically, you apparently must have
 cookies enabled to activate this latter function, so you may want
 to think twice before using it.

 The saga continues...

 --Lauren--
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Lauren Weinstein
 Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com
 Co-Founder, PFIR: People for Internet Responsibility -
 http://www.pfir.org
 Member, ACM 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #6 - 12/02/99

1999-12-02 Thread Ric Carter

 -Caveat Lector-

SkeptiNews 991202f - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH?
* No troglodytes were eviscerated during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Propagation Horns: http://www.mjt.org/exhibits/prophorn.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Cellphones Zap Rat Brains. (SD) Microwaves similar to those emitted by
  cell phones may affect long-term memory. Scientists have linked diminished
  long-term memory and navigating skills in rats with exposure to microwaves
  like those from cellular telephones. Yuppie scum utter shrieks of despair,
  scurry: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/12/991202070403.htm

: Have you fried your brains yet? Did you use cellphones, drugs, TV, alien
implants, Rush Limbo, techno, Art Bell, sacramental wine, trephination, me?

# FrankenCrop Protesters Fuck Up, Destroy Wrong Plants:
  http://news.excite.com/news/uw/991201/odd-86
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Altamura Man becomes Altamura Man Cam. (DSC) The skeleton was discovered
  in 1993 in a deep Southern Italian cave; now they're setting up a web
  cam to look at the cave, and the undisturbed Altamura Man itself. Zowie.
  http://www.discovery.com/news/archive/news991127/brief2.html?ct=38432988

: Do you like to watch caves? Is the action exciting? Have you ever seen
kobolds, trolls, elves, Neanderthals? Have they seen you? Are they coming?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 50,000 CUPCAKES CAN'T BE WRONG. Here's a woman who says she's eaten 4 cup-
  cakes a day for the last 42 years - and she's never gone over 120 pounds.
  Maybe the cup cake diet will be the next fad diet. She should write a
  book: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=22927

# A SHOCKING WAY TO QUIT. A man in Florida has invented a lighter that gives
  you an electric shock after lighting a cigarette. I think most hardcore
  smokers will just flick this bic away and go back to painfree lighters.
  Zap: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=22903

: What's your favorite method of behaviour modification? Do you prefer to
reward, punish, disorient, or just beam mindcontrol rays at your subjects?

# COLORADO TRIES TO PUT THE BRAKES ON DRUGGING STUDENTS - don't dope dopes:
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=22926
# FRANCE MAKING BOLD MOVE TO FIGHT TEEN PREGNANCIES - morning-after pills:
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=22901
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Research-R-Us:

@ Complexicon - A cross-referenced guide to the concepts, terminology,
  and key figures of modern dynamics---the main tools used to investigate
  complexity in nature. Chaotic: http://jimfl.yi.org:88/links/99879/goURL

# The evolution of search engines. "Jeeves seemed like an aging, avuncular
  know-it-all, Altavista seemed like the woman who keeps winning Double
  Jeopardy." http://nytimes.com/library/review/112899internet-review.html

@ Cambridge dictionaries are online: Cambridge Dictionary of American
  English, Cambridge International Dictionary of English, Cambridge
  International Dictionary of Phrasal Verbs or Cambridge International
  Dictionary of Idioms. http://www.cup.cam.ac.uk/esl/dictionary/

@ The Russian State Library books-by-e-mail program: The Library will e-mail
  readers extracts from any of its books within 48 hours. Readers will be
  charged 12 cents a page, and they can get the text by e-mail, fax postal
  service, CD-ROM, or computer disk. The Russian State Library URL is
  http://www.rsl.ru/ . It is in Russian. The English version is at:
  http://www.rsl.ru/home_en.htm  . Details:
  http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/033113.htm .

# Free site search engine service Atomz.com announced that it now supports
  14 languages, including Brazilian Portuguese, Czechoslovakian, Danish,
  Dutch, European Portuguese, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian,
  Spanish, Slovak and Swedish. http://www.atomz.com

# The Latter-day Saints' genealogy site has announced that as of 22 Nov 1999
  it has added 240 million new names to the genealogy database. The addition
  represents international data from primarily Western Europe, Scandinavia,
  and Mexico. The service is still free.  http://www.familysearch.org/

@ Dr.Dobb's Journal has launched a search engine for sys.nerds. DevSearcher
  (formerly CodeCranker) covers information on programming languages (perl,
  Java, etc.) algorithms, operating systems, etc. http://devsearcher.com/

@ Anonymous Research: http://www.stormloader.com/joshua/group.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# Analysis of Earth's Ringing http://jimfl.yi.org:88/links/99910/displayLink
# Planet in a Test Tube http://jimfl.yi.org:88/links/99918/displayLink
# Analysis of Throat Singing 

[CTRL] Really Weird. Insights Would Be Appreciated

1999-12-02 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

 -Caveat Lector-

Hi All,

Something really weird just started.  Somehow private mail being sent to
Capitol Hill Blue is ending up in my mail box.  When I write back to the
person or to Capitol Hill Blue it is sent to someone else.  So, I don't
even know if my message is getting through to Capitol Hill Blue.


Help!

Hilary

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[CTRL] Seattle: ADM hires shills?

1999-12-02 Thread Kevin

I got this off one of the boards.


Name: Tom J. Kennedy
[Image] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [Reply]

 [New Article]
Subject: Re: The Battle in Seattle

Website: www.cyberclass.net  [Main List]

 Greetings:

 I am sharing this information which I just received from AFPN.
 It support the new posting at Jeff's website
 re: "provocatuers" at the WTO in Seattle

 Working with you for "peace and plenty" by 2020
 I AM
 Tom J. Kennedy
 www.cyberclass.net
 ***
 All is not as it seems! A letter from Seattle

 This is a fax (another one) that I sent to the Mayor of Seattle.

 Top 10 Reasons to Oppose the World Trade Organization

 Via APFNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532

 Subject: Fwd: Fw: a letter from Seattle
 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:31:10 PST
 From: "cliff kadmon"
 To Whom It May Concern:

 I am a young man living in the Seattle area. I am not going
 to reveal my name, for reasons that will be obvious.

 Several weeks ago I was approached by the representative of a
 major company. I was offered a lucrative, temporary job as a
 demonstrator as part of a 'media event' that the company rep
 said she was involved in planning. I was offered $35 an hour,
 plus bonuses and meals, for a job that would last a week or so.
 Being a rather poor college student, I jumped at the offer. I
 was assured it was all legal. I signed a strict non-disclosure
 agreement. And I was given a few days paid training.

 All of this was before I had heard about the upcoming World
 Trade Organization meeting. In fact, I didn't really know what
 the WTO was.

 In the past few days I have carried protest signs and chanted
 slogans for various causes - whales, farmers, human rights,
 rainforests; I have blocked traffic, been shoved, kicked,
 tear-gassed, arrested (bail promptly paid), worn a panda bear
 costume, and been on tv; I've been well-fed on steaks and shrimp
 and pizza; had a hell of a lot of fun; made some good cash money
 and recieved some merchandise bonuses like vitamins and Pepsi
 stuff; - and become totally disillusioned with our political
 system.

 The company that hired me is Archer Daniels Midland, but Pepsi
 was somehow involved, too (and no doubt some others).

 The demonstrations this past week in Seattle are contrived and
 manufactured. I'm sure that many of the people out there are
 sincerely trying to further their cause, but many more are just
 nuts getting caught up in the moment, and some are paid agitators
 (like me and about another 100 or so that I know of). I'm not out
 there anymore, though, I took my cash last night and left, went
 back to school.

 Here's the thing: Have you noticed how the aims of many of the
 protestors for the most part actually go along with the aims of
 the WTO and the multi-national corporations? The 'event' is being
 portrayed as a demonstration against capitalism, but actually is
 about stricter environment and labor controls, and stricter
 international standards in many areas. This is the agenda of the
 WTO and the New World Order. It is all part of the one-world
 government thing. It is all about more CONTROL over people. When
 I saw this, I walked away.

 All of this should be obvious to thoughtful people, but the media
 are drooling all over each other covering this story as if it were
 some kind of spontaneous happening, instead of the staged drama it
 really is. People think the New World Order is just something some
 crazy person on the internet thought up, but I first heard it from
 the mouth of President George Bush years ago. The New World Order
 is alive and growing.

 I just wanted to put the word out on this to counter the prevailing
 spin. All is not as it seems!

 Just Some Guy - a NWO shill
 
 From: Les Lemke
 This is a fax (another one) that I sent to the Mayor of Seattle.

 This letter is going to as many Congressman as I can send it
 to. What happened and CONTINUES TO HAPPEN in Seattle is
 totally UNacceptable.

 If you saw what I saw and wish to alter this letter and send it as
 your own letter to that scumbag in Seattle, or to your own Congressmen,
 go for it. What I say below I did in fact see via various media
 sources. This is nothing but NAZI GESTAPO ACTION
 AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY!
 
 December 2, 1999

 Lester Lemke
 P.O. Box 1524
 Coos Bay, Oregon 97420-0332

 Mayor Paul Schell of
 Seattle Washington
 600 Fourth Avenue
 Seattle WA 98104
 Tel/206-684-4000
 Fax/206-684-5360

 Mr. Paul Schell - or should I call you Comrad Schell?

 Over the last few days and nights I have witnessed in Seattle
 open and blatant abuse of power as well as complete and utter
 brutality by law enforcement against citizens of this country
 who have been 

[CTRL] Deliberately dumbing us down

1999-12-02 Thread Michael A. Johnson

 -Caveat Lector-

During the 1973 International Education Seminar, Harvard
psychiatrist Chester M. Pierce, speaking as an expert in
public education, said:

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five
 is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain
 allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected
 officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a
 supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this
 nation as a separate entity.  It's up to you as teachers
 to make all these sick children well -- by creating the
 international child of the future."


Whenever is found what is called a paternal government, there
is found state education. It has been discovered that the best
way to insure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the
nursery. -- Benjamin Disraeli


~~for educational purposes only~~

Deliberately dumbing us down
By Samuel L. Blumenfeld

Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt's new book,
"The Deliberate Dumbing Down of
America," is without doubt one of the
most important publishing events in
the annals of American education in the
last hundred years. John Dewey's
"School and Society," published in 1899,
set American education on its course to
socialism. Rudolf Flesch's "Why Johnny
Can't Read," published in 1955,
informed American parents that there
was something terribly wrong with the
way the schools were teaching children
to read, and my own book, "NEA:
Trojan Horse in American Education,"
published in 1984, explained in great
detail how and why the decline in
public education was taking place.

But Iserbyt has done what no one else
wanted or could do. She has put
together the most formidable and
practical compilation of documentation
describing the well-planned "deliberate
dumbing down" of American children
by their education system. Anyone who
has had any lingering hope that what
the educators have been doing is a
result of error, accident, or stupidity
will be shocked by the way American
social engineers have systematically
gone about destroying the intellect of
millions of American children for the
purpose of leading the American
people into a socialist world
government controlled by behavioral
and social scientists.

This mammoth book is the size of a
large city phone book: 462 pages of
documentation, 205 pages of
appendices, and a 48-page Index. The
documentation is "A Chronological
paper Trail" which starts with the
Sowing of the Seeds in the late 18th and
19th centuries, proceeds to The Turning
of the Tides, then to The Troubling
Thirties, The Fomentation of the Forties
and Fifties, The Sick Sixties, The
Serious Seventies, The "Effective"
Eighties, and finally, the Noxious
Nineties. The educators and social
engineers indict themselves with their
own words.

Iserbyt decided to compile this book
because, as a "resister" to what is going
on in American education, she was
being constantly told that she was
taking things out of context. The book,
she writes, "was put together primarily
to satisfy my own need to see the
various components which led to the
dumbing down of the United States of
America assembled in chronological
order -- in writing. Even I, who had
observed these weird activities taking
place at all levels of government, was
reluctant to accept a malicious intent
behind each individual, chronological
activity or innovation, unless I could
connect it with other, similar activities
taking place at other times."

And that is what this book does. It
connects educators, social engineers,
planners, government grants, federal
and state agencies, billion-dollar
foundations, think tanks, universities,
research projects, policy organizations,
etc., showing how they have worked
together to advance an agenda that will
change America from a free republic to
a socialist state.

What is so mind boggling is that all of
this is being financed by the American
people themselves through their own
taxes. In other words, the American
people are underwriting the destruction
of their own freedom and way of life by
lavishly financing through federal and
state grants the very social scientists
who are undermining our national
sovereignty and preparing our children
to become the dumbed-down vassals of
the new world order.

One of the interesting insights revealed
by these documents is how the social
engineers use a deliberately created
education "crisis" to move their agenda
forward by offering radical reforms
that are sold to the public as fixing the
crisis -- which they never do. The new
reforms simply set the stage for the next
crisis, which provides the pretext for
the next move forward. This is the
dialectical process at work, a process
our behavioral engineers have learned
to use very effectively. Its success
depends on the ability of the "change
agents" to continually deceive the
public, which tends to believe any lie
the experts tell them.

Iserbyt's long journey to becoming a
"resister," started in 1973 when her son,
a fourth grader, 

[CTRL] LaRouche view of Seattle rioting

1999-12-02 Thread Linda Minor





Linda Minor wrote:

 Brian,
 What do you hear about what's going on out there?

Linda,
   Check out www.lancaster.ac.uk/users/csec/evnts/rem/html.
   The violence is being run by "Take the Streets Back," the Brit
operation that ran the June 18 violence in the City of London, and Earth
First and assorted eco-terrorists, who have been training for months
outside of Arlington, Washington. The Center for the Study of
Enivormental Change (CSEC), based at Lancaster University, has an
important role.  See also London "Sunday Times,"  Nov. 28, article
titled, "British Anarchists Plan Seattle Riot." That was published, as I
stated, on November 28.
Otherwise, the conference itself is very factionalized. The French
walked out of the agricultural talks today, for example.  The
continental Europeans are in revolt against globalization. Prime
Minister Jospin, of France, has put out a pamphlet, to attack
globablization! (I wonder where he got that idea?) Shroeder of Germany
just broke with Blair, to save the second largest construction company,
and did it again in Bavaria to save a steel mill. The head of the
Central Bank of Italy, Fazio, is demanding a return to pre-1975
policies, when the state played a fundamental role in guiding economic
affairs.  The market place, by its nature, has no ethics, he points out;
the state must insure the general welfare.
  The China deal with the US, prepatory to joining WTO is
unfortunate, and won't hold water. Both sides are deluding themselves.
China is desperate for peace and quiet, and does not see itself as a
world power. It is bad, but may give way quickly, anyway, given the
mini-Pearl Harbor (as Lyn calls is) which has hit in Europe.
  Ask again, if what I have said is not what you want.

-Brian




[CTRL] Quote

1999-12-02 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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  ---

"The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an
interlocking financial, political, and economic world force for the purpose
of establishing a World Government. Today Internationalism is heralded from
pulpit and platform as a 'League of Nations' or a 'Federated Union' to
which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National
Sovereignty. The World Government plan is being advocated under such
alluring names as the 'New International Order,' 'The New World Order,'
'World Union Now,' 'World Commonwealth of Nations,' 'World Community,' etc.
All the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be
religious or political according to the taste or training of the
individual." -- excerpt from A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of
Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant
Episcopal Church in General Convention (October 1940)

  ---

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[CTRL] Fw: [BCPolitics] Fw: more views on the Nisga'a treaty

1999-12-02 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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I can't begin to tell y'all on this new list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] how
delighted I am to see such "salt and light"  with its own Internet list. But
of course, dogmatism, bigotry and lies have no place for another point of
view so, being the assholes you are, you won't post anything from me. "White
Culture"? Hmmm. Wasn't it a bunch of white guys wearing bed sheets who
crucified the followers of Christ in the Arenas of Rome for 300 years AD in
the "Ten Great Persecutions" set out by Eusebius (Historia Ecclesiastica,
ca. 300 AD)? Those followers of Christ who is Truth personified were from
all races. Eusebius tells us the story of how the region called Iraq to-day
under King Agbarus became the first "officially" Christian country. Ernie
Zundel and the other "Christie Critters" make their great whine and lament
for "truth" until someone reminds them that truth is many-faceted and their
few narrow opinions and axes to grind are not the whole scoop.
   Nisga'a or one its neighbours like Nuxalk could become a Sovereign Nation
in BC.
And maybe y'all, led by David Duke can eke out a living on a "Reserve" set
on one of these nations. See http://www.inac.gc.ca . The right to develop
muncipalities is now recognized as within FN jurisdiction. The powerhouses
of the world are the cities. So that is all they need to go ahead towards
full sovereignty and independence if that is what they want. But to ask a
bunch of honky bigots what a model city of today would be like? Forget it!
FWP.

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Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:59 PM
Subject: [BCPolitics] Fw: more views on the Nisga'a treaty


From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And now, of course, Mr. Scott, we find out why your ever so "democratic"
caucus does not want a BC-wide initiative on Nisga'a under the 1996
Initiative and Recall Act. That would spoil the master plan of Reform which
is to use direct democracy as a smokescreen behind which racism, bigotry
and
a lot of other garbage has a chance to come to fruition.
FWP.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Rynard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:10 PM
Subject: more views on the Nisga'a treaty


It was interesting to hear that the mayors of Terrace and Prince Rupert
support the treaty.

Paul Rynard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
416-469-4315

Nisga'a treaty backers outnumber foes at hearing: Themayors of Terrace and
Prince Rupert are among thosevoicing support for the historic pact as a
Commonscommittee holds hearings in northwestern B.C. -- [The Vancouver
Sun -
Tue 16 Nov 1999]
PUBLICATION The Vancouver Sun
DATE Tue 16 Nov 1999
SECTION/CATEGORY News
PAGE NUMBER B8
BYLINE Jeff Nagel
HEADLINE: Nisga'a treaty backers outnumber foes at hearing: The mayors
of Terrace and Prince Rupert are among those voicing support for the
historic pact as a Commons committee holds hearings in northwestern B.C.
TERRACE -- Native people and their supporters outnumbered opponents
Monday among the more than 80 people who showed up for hearings on the
Nisga'a treaty by the House of Commons standing committee on aboriginal
affairs.
Terrace resident Noel Martel said many locals feel there's little
point
opposing a treaty at hearings by a committee that he said the Liberals
have
stacked with treaty supporters.
``It's a done deal,'' he said.
Martel and others also said they are reluctant to be identified as
opposed to the treaty.
``If you say anything you're a redneck,'' Martel said.
``Nobody wants to come out for fear of being called a bigot,'' added
local resident Michelle Rodger. ``I don't want to insult my native friends
either -- I'm not racist, but I have concerns about this treaty.''
The agreement gives the Nisga'a $253 million in cash, 2,000 square
kilometres in northwestern British Columbia, a say in resource development
in their region and local self-government.
It has been approved by the Nisga'a in a referendum and passed by the
B.C. legislature.
The federal government introduced the treaty in Parliament at the
beginning of this session but it has come under fire from the Reform
party.
Reform and other critics argue the treaty is unconstitutional because
it
creates a third order of government without amending the Constitution.
Monday's hearing was told by local mayors that area residents are
ready
to move forward with the treaty and focus on its implementation.
Terrace Mayor Jack Talstra said there are mixed feelings about the
treaty in Terrace, but 

[CTRL] GOP DEBATE-Official Results*[BIG win 4 KEYES]*

1999-12-02 Thread BARD

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results



   Day 1, 12:14 AM

%votes

  Gary Bauer
  (1%)
 George W. Bush
 (25%)
Steve Forbes
  (6%)
 Orrin Hatch
  (1%)
  Alan Keyes
  (49%)
John McCain
(18%

http://www.vote.com/vResults/

Bard

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[CTRL] Eurocorps to replace Nato as Kosovo force

1999-12-02 Thread earthman

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I find this, exciting..don't you ?

Peter

Eurocorps to replace Nato as Kosovo force

By Stephen Castle in Brussels


3 December 1999

Europe's defence ambitions were given a boost yesterday when Britain and
other key Nato nations backed plans to put the Franco-German Eurocorps at
the
heart of peace-keeping operations in Kosovo.

A meeting of Nato defence ministers in Brussels gave support to proposals
that the Strasbourg-based Eurocorps should be at the core of the Kosovo
operation as early as next year. The ministers' approval comes one week
before leaders unveil their plans for a rapid-reaction force, and reinforced
the EU's determination to play a greater role in "crisis intervention" and
peace-keeping.

Yesterday all parties trod carefully, aware of tensions with Washington over
the emergence of the EU's defence capabilities. The move boosts Eurocorps's
prestige without challenging US sensitivities because France, which remains
outside Nato's integrated structure, agreed that the deployment would fall
under the organisation's chain of command.

One British official said that the Eurocorps offer "was genuinely and
generally welcomed". "We have been saying that the European Security and
Defence Identity is not in competition to Nato, it is a complement to it.
This is an expression of that."

Lord Robertson, Nato's new Secretary General, used his first ministerial
meeting to underline the need to restructure and increase military spending
in the 19-nation alliance. European armies were a "paper tiger", he said,
pointing out that although there were two million soldiers under arms in the
EU, Nato had difficulty sending 40,000 to Kosovo. Large gaps in Europe's
intelligence-gathering capabilities were exposed during the Kosovo campaign
and Lord Robertson wanted nations "to spend more and spend smarter".

But yesterday's gathering took place against a background of growing
determination in Europe to develop a realistic defence capability. EU heads
of government are expected to announce next week the earmarking of a rapid
reaction force of between 40,000 and 50,000 troops at a summit in Helsinki.

Under the plan, Eurocorps will take over command of the KFOR peace-keeping
force in Kosovo as early as next spring. Backing the proposal, the Secretary
of State for Defence, Geoff Hoon, said Britain would be prepared to augment
the Eurocorps. "What is important is that Eurocorps is translated into this
kind of headquarters operation."

While the main EU countries have agreed on the desired capabilities of their
new security and defence policy, the details of its political control are
still to be finalised. The European Commission is confident that the new
structures can be set up without the need for a treaty change. But the issue
of who will sit on the proposed political and military committee, which will
control deployment of the force, is still being debated. The EC has won the
backing of several countries in pressing for a seat at the table, although
it
would not have a vote. That is likely to be resisted by several countries,
including Britain.
© 1999 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd.




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Re: [CTRL] WTO, Sleepless in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread nessie

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And why did these men abolish slavery?

The key word here is "these." Spooner is talking about politicians and the
men who owned them. About them, he is absolutely right.  However, Spooner
errs in his assumption that these were the men who abolished slavery and
that it was abolished by proclomation. These were not the men who
abolished slavery. Soldiers abolished slavery. They didn't do it with
proclamations, either. They did it with lead and steel.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Sponsors Lay the Smackdown on the WWF

1999-12-02 Thread A.C. Szul

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FYI. See http://www.parentstv.org/

 1. Sponsors Lay the Smackdown on the WWF

   The PTC's campaign to educate advertisers about the raunchy content of
   UPN's WWF Smackdown! and encourage them to drop their sponsorship
   of the wrestling show has met with incredible success -- in large part
   thanks to the efforts of the PTC members and supporters who contacted
   these advertisers. The U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, and U.S. Air Force have all
   ceased running ads on Smackdown!, as have the five members of the
   Family Friendly Programming Forum who originally advertised on the show.
   The PTC's most recent success came when Mars Inc. announced it would
   no longer sponsor Smackdown!

   The PTC's efforts now are winning recognition from the mainstream
   media. Coca-Cola and ATT have made public statements that they pulled
   advertising from Smackdown! because of content issues. CNN's business
   show, Moneyline, reported this week that the WWF's stock price dropped
   a point and a half and cited the efforts of the PTC to get Coke to drop its
   ads.

   The WWF has certainly noticed, too. Following up on a promise made in a
   letter to PTC Chairman L. Brent Bozell last month, WWF Chairman Vince
   McMahon blasted the PTC during last Thursday's episode of Smackdown!
   and encouraged viewers to protest the PTC's campaign. Angry and
   often-incoherent e-mail has flooded the PTC's offices since last Thursday's
   broadcast. The Wall Street Journal reported that McMahon appears to
   have succumbed to the pressure, promising to tone down the content of this
   week's episode of Smackdown! "You'll see less aggression, less-colorful
   language, less sexuality," said McMahon. Check www.parentstv.org this
   Friday for the Smackdown! report to see if the WWF is true to its word
   this time - or if it's just another publicity stunt.

-A

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[CTRL] Operation Clydesdale Part One

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Operation Clydesdale Part One

Introduction:
Message from Rayelan Allan:

My husband, Gunther Russbacher wrote the following dedication to the men who
accompanied him on the covert mission Operation Clydesdale and who never
returned.

This story describes a covert mission, in which Americans died in service of
their
country. The men named in this story are some of the nameless stars that are
on the
marble wall at CIA headquarters at Langley , Virginia.

I would like to dedicate this story to all the men, living, wounded and dead,
 who have
risked their lives in defense of American ideas, on missions so secret that
they can
never be revealed to anyone.

Many of these men... (and women too), are your fathers, your brothers, your
husbands, your neighbors. They live double and triple lives. They live on the
 edge,
always ready to spring into action in the need arises. They have no real
lives of their
own. They live in a constant "on call" state. When the call comes, they never
 know
if they will come home dead or alive. They never know if they will see their
wives
and children again.

These men (and women) are the unsung heros of America's secret wars. When
Gunther wrote this, he took the time to add the family side of his life. The
way in
which he wrote this article allows people to finally get a glimpse of the
lives covert
operatives lead. With this understanding, I rededicate this article to all
the men and
women who have led or still lead the life of a covert operative.




Operation Clydesdale
 BY: GUNTHER KARL RUSSBACHER

THIS IS A STORY OF THE PERVERSION OF MAN, AND HIS INTENT TO IMPOSE HIS WAY
UPON AN UNSUSPECTING POPULACE. IT IS A STORY ABOUT A GROUP OF RUTHLESS MEN,
WHO HAD CHOSEN TO VIOLATE THE VERY SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE AS WE HAVE COME TO
KNOW IT.

IT IS ALSO A STORY ABOUT THE MEN, WHO, AGAINST ALL ODDS, POSSESSING EXTREME
PERSONAL DEDICATION, WERE WILLING TO SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES IN THE ATTEMPT TO
RESCUE A YOUTH FROM SURE AND CERTAIN DEATH, AT THE HANDS OF AN INTERNATIONAL
WHITE SLAVERY RING.

THE YOUTH WAS STOLEN AND FORCED TO COMMIT THE MOST VILE AND VULGAR ACTS FOR
THE PERVERSE ENJOYMENT OF OTHERS, WHILE CAMERAS RECORDED EACH EXPLICIT SEXUAL
ACT FOR ALL POSTERITY. WHEN THEY WERE THROUGH WITH HIM, THEY NOT ONLY TOOK
HIS SANITY, BUT EVERYTHING HE HAD EVER CHERISHED AND HELD DEAR. THEY LEFT HIM
WITH NOTHING HE COULD TRULY CALL HIS OWN.

THIS YOUTHFUL LAD IS REMEMBERED HERE, ALONG WITH THE MEN WHO GAVE THEIR VERY
LIVES, IN ORDER THAT HE, AND THE MANY UNTOLD OTHERS MIGHT CONTINUE TO LIVE.

THIS STORY IS DEDICATED TO THE
MEN I LOST AND LEFT BEHIND. YOU
SHALL FOREVER BE A PART OF ME.

I SALUTE YOU, ONE AND ALL!

MAY GOD GRANT EACH OF YOU
YOUR RIGHTLY DESERVED ETERNAL
PEACE.

 IN CARING MEMORY,
 GUNTHER K. RUSSBACHER
 JEFFERSON CITY, 110
 APRIL 19, 1993



OPERATION CLYDESDALE
 By: Gunther Karl Russbacher

It was a cold and wet Thanksgiving Day. The overnight temperatures had dipped
to near record levels, as we gathered in the formal dining room to  begin the
special meal. I didn't think that there would be quite so many of us, as we
began the
process of finding our seats. As always, I sat at the head of the table, in
one of the
uncomfortable captains' chairs, all the while hoping that the somber meal
would pass
without incident from the children.
I glanced in the direction of my eldest son, who at the time was age eight,
but
like many of the children his age, going on sixteen. He was an innocent,
living in a
world that didn't necessarily consider children to be innocent. Quickly, I
stole a
hurried glance to the man seated to my right. An expression of extreme pain
crossed
his brow, as he sank his eyes towards his dinner plate. None of the men in
the room
were able to meet each others eyes. It was a time of grief, abject sadness; a
 time for
the tears we couldn't cry.
The cold anger of the men was evident throughout the strained meal. Everyone
was merely going through the motions, picking at the food, which was placed
in front
of them. Three members of my Special Operations Group were dead. Two others
had
sustained such severe injuries which would, in all likelihood, preclude them
from
further service with the Group. The civilian death toll, attributed to
accidental and or
stray rounds, for the entire operation stood at four. The actual ordered or
condoned
sanctions exceeded a verified body count of sixty-seven. Although the
operation was considered a raving success by Rudolph Guilliani, the United
States Attorney for the District of New York, we felt betrayed by  and
through the revocation of the Executive Sanction which had fielded our unit,
and
given us clear and free hand to 

[CTRL] OPERATION CLYDESDALE--PART TWO

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OPERATION CLYDESDALE--PART TWO

III.
 THE MISSION

Approximately six and one half miles from Bonn, West Germany, at the end of a
remote, tightly secured airstrip, which happened to not appear on any
aeronautical charts, the turboprop engines of a Lockheed C-130 shook and
roared to
max power as it began its takeoff roll and lumbered down the long runway.
Steadily
gaining speed, the throttles firewalled, the transport rattled and creaked,
threatening
to come apart at the seams, as it rotated, lifting its broad frame into the
cold night air,
while climbing slowly away from the retreating lights of the CIA isolation
base and
mission staging area.
We were banking into a slow turn, while gaining altitude, the C-130 heading
due east before following a southerly course over the mountainous region of
the
beautiful Bavarian forest which formed the West German frontier with
Czechoslovakia. The course had been most precisely planned to track a narrow
corridor, above and parallel to the commercial airline routes of the area;
the takeoff
time of 2030 hours coinciding with a period of heavy commercial air traffic.
If all went according to our plans our effort to divert attention from the
Czech
radar operators away from the flight path of the C-130 would soon be
augmented by
elements of the United States Air Force, based out of Rhein Main AFB. The
DCI, through proper channels, had requested two formations of fighter
aircraft to  fly
border cover for us. The fighters were scheduled to arrive in the border area
 at the
same time as the C-130.
Their mission, the true purpose unknown to the pilots, was to conduct high
speed night maneuvers a few miles north of the release point where my Team
would
exit the transport via HAHO parachute jump. All was going according to the
preset
plan. We were nearing the point of no return; a point where the mission would
 be
committed to go. I left the cockpit and made my way to the aft section of the
 plane.
Jockeying for position, I saw the faces of the men with whom I would be
sharing
nods and last instructions. We were set to go. A firm resolve was visible on
all the
faces  the team was ready for whatever might come. I found my seat of
nylon webbing, located on the starboard side of the  aircraft,
while the vibrations of the deck plates traveled up through my entire body.
The sound
of the engines was somewhat muffled by my helmet, while I listened to the
rhythm
of my own breathing through the demand regulator attached to my oxygen mask.
My
thoughts were concentrated on the mission. The details of the OPS Order were
burned into my memory, along with the countless other details I would have to
 call
into play, before the long night ahead was to be over. At the staging area,
and along the flight to Germany, there had been no false bravado or tough
talk about the mission, just a silent confidence and  professional
ease. Most of the men had served one or more combat tours in Viet Nam, or
taken
part in some strategic-OPS, planned and orchestrated by our masters in
Langley. To
a man, we were seasoned veterans, ready to do a job. My eyes settled on B
X, the CIA paramilitary specialist seated on the opposite side of the
aircraft. X had been chosen by the Agency to  act
as oxygen safety man and jumpmaster for the HAHO insertion. Needless to say I
 had
questioned him at length at the isolation base, and was more than satisfied
that
X was far more than merely qualified to handle the tasks assigned to him.
 The
man had made more than two thousand jumps, and had been through special jump
schools during his lengthy tour of service with the Army. We were rapidly
approaching the drop zone, as we continued to monitor each other, making sure
that our systems were being saturated with oxygen, making  all the
while sure that we weren't hyperventilating. Such irregular breathing, caused
 by stress
or symptoms of hypoxia. We had been prebreathing pure oxygen for thirty
minutes
prior to take off from the staging area, and would continue to take in such
oxygen for
the duration of the thirty minute flight to the release point, saturating our
 systems for
the jump. our safety margin was slim as continued to climb to thirty-three
thousand
feet. At that altitude, hypoxic effects could occur within 45 seconds. We
removed the arming pins to permit our main chutes to open at the twenty-five
hundred feet level, in the event that any member of the team  became
dysfunctional or physically incapable of deploying the chute after exiting
the aircraft.
The aircraft had reached thirty-three thousand feet and was now fully
depressurized to the outside air pressure in preparation for the opening of
the tailgate
ramp.
Despite the inefficiency of the heater in the cargo bay, the team was well
insulated from the ice cold air. Upon arrival at the isolation base, we had
turned in
all clothing and personal effects, including all 

[CTRL] Fwd: The real Seattle story

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan





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Dear Ones,

I recevied this eye witness account of what really went on in Seattle. 
It was encouraging to note that there are people that care enough to be 
brutilized at the hands of the what I am beginning to believe are the 
Gustapo. It is also amazing that the government is ignoring the power 
of truth and our ability to share it with our friends and families all 
over the world. Please forward this to as many of your friends and 
family as you can. It would be great if anyone can take the time to 
call, email or write your representatives and the President to let them 
know that we know the truth.

In love and peace, Mary

More information from Seattle. This is the first time I've really 
appreciated an alternative to TV information.

With prayers for them and for us, all part of one web, Lauren aka 
Juniper


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Attachment: Forwarded Messag

Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 17:45:33 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: 
"Grant H. Potts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Real Story 
from Seattle - 12/1/99 (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This came across my desk. It was written by someone who is out in the 
streets with my friends from Athens, Ohio, and gives a first-hand 
account of what was going on from a protester's perspective. I don't 
think I need to point out it's a slightly different view from what we 
are getting from major medial channels.

Forwarded w/ permission.

BTW, I'm Grant Potts from Univ. of Penn. I'll post an introduction 
sometime soon between monitoring friends in seattle and trying to 
finish off this semester.

Never Thirst, Grant

-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 13:59:40 
EST From: Free Student Press Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The 
Real Story from Seattle - 12/1/99

Hey Amada - if you can get this story out to the A-NEWS or other media, 
please do.

I got on a Greyhound bus in Pittsburgh at 3:00am, the morning after 
Thanksgiving, and traveled 2 and a half days to Seattle to join the 
protests against the World Trade Organization. I arrived to see tens of 
thousands of activists from the widest range of causes IÌve ever seen 
in one place, united around a common concern -- their desire to have a 
say in the decisions that affect their lives, otherwise known as 
democracy. I wonÌt go into the WTO in great detail. The information is 
out there. 

You can find for yourself that in the last 4 years the WTO 
has been in existence it has ruled against every evironmental and human 
health and saftey regulation that has come before it and, through 
economic leverage, has compelled countries to repeal these Ïbarriers to 
free trade.Ó Such barriers in this country have been the sections of 
the Clean Air Act and the Endagered Species Act. But I wonÌt go into 
that further, instead I want to share with you what happened here, to 
me and thousands of others, yesterday. My friends and I woke up late 
Tuesday morning. 

One of the largest portests of the century, and we 
sleep in. We joined the protests at about 9:00am, and joined a human 
chain of people blocking one entrance to the convention center where 
the first day of the WTO summit was to take place. This was the scene 
at every street that led to the convention center. The plan was to not 
let delegates enter and to shut down the meeting. This may sound 
drastic, but the purpose was to send a message that many have phrased 
as ÏNo globalization without representation.Ó The WTO meetings are 
closed to the public and the WTO is not subordinant to any national 
government or, more importantly, and democratic body. Yet it has shown 
itself to have more of a say in things as basic as the quality of the 
air we breath than we ourselves do. 

To me and nearly 50,000 others, 
this warranted the serious direct action. However, as serious as these 
demonstrations were, they were to be ALL non-violent. After being part 
of our own barrier to free trade and turning back WTO delegates for 
about an hour, we heard that protesters needed help at another 
intersection a few blocks away. Since there were more than enough 
people to keep up the barrier where we were, we left the blockade and 
headed for the corner of 8th and Seneca. When we arrived, we saw lots 
of demonstrators but no major media cameras. There was a smaller group 
of people sitting down on the street (which had already been closed) 
with police in riot gear standing behind them. Instead of the ordinary 
billy clubs, all of SeattleÌs police were holding 3 foot oak clubs that 
look more like basball bats than batons. 

When they began putting on 
their gas masks it became evident that they were planning to use pepper 
spray on the people sitting down. The rest of the crowd was pleading 
with the police not to use this 

Re: [CTRL] WTO, Sleepless in Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

 -Caveat Lector-

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, nessie wrote:
The task is not to join them at the table but to overturn the table.

If violence is not a wholly appropriate method for dealing with people who
exploit slave labor, then the American Civil War was a mistake.

This country was FOUNDED via violence, and emerged as a world power via
violence...

Every major political and social change in this country only came about
as a result of violence...


June ;-)

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When we shall hear
The rain and wind beat dark December, how
In this this pinching care
Shall we discourse the freezing hours away?
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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] 56 accused in trial of French paedophile ring ... The End of A NWO Era

1999-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Rumor Mill News Readers,

Everynow and then, pieces of news get printed that tie up loose ends and help
put more pieces of the puzzle together.

An International pedophile ring has been operating for many years. In the
early 80's children were being kidnapped off the streets of New York City and
sold into sexual slavery.  Rudy Guillani was the US Attorney in the area.
Using the FBI's Division 5, he put together an operation called Operation
Clydesdale. It was a seek, find, rescue and destroy mission. They had to seek
and find the pedophiles.
Then they had to rescue the vitims and eliminate the pedophiles.

It took several years to put it together and to find the pedophiles. There
were several steps involved, including the creation of 900 sex lines,
producers, film makers, and distributors for pornographic films.

Once the pedophiles were found and it was determined that they still had
children held as captive sex slaves, a mission was put together. Many of the
men who were picked to go on this mission, had been part of Pegasus and Task
Force 151.

Operation Clydesdale was the beginning of an International Special Operations
Group (ISOG) known as the PET Project.  PET stands for pedophile eradication
team.

Several years ago, Belgium police uncovered a pedophile ring that reached
throughout Europe and involved men at the highest level of European
governments.  When the people of Belgium started to feel that their
government was covering up for high ranking pedophiles, hundreds of thousands
marched in the streets and demanded that something be done to rid Europe of
pedophiles.

Europol was still in the formative stages when this was going on, so ISOG
initially was created under Interpol, but it answered to no one but its own
leaders.  It operated as a rogue unit because they could not be sure they had
identified all the pedophiles in high level government jobs.  They needed to
make sure that they were not commanded by a pedophile or someone who was
covering up for pedophiles.

The reason this is important is because there is a satanic arm of the New
World Order that practices ritual pedophilia. The NWO uses the weaknesses of
men to capture and control them. Once a man is turned into a pedophile, and
videos are taken of him raping children, the NWO owns and controls everything
the man does.

The NWO then grooms, educates and elevates the man into high ranking elected
or appointed positions. With enough controlled pedophiles in European
governments, the NWO controlled almost every aspect of European life through
the laws they wrote and ordered their government pedophile servants to pass.

In 1996, the International Special Operations Group fielded their PET
Project.  As said earlier, many of the men who made up Operation Clydesdale
had been part of teams that were created for assassinations.  Some of these
men were the ones who trained the new members of the PET Project.

When the PET Project was fielded, its unofficial orders were to take no
prisoners and make sure none were left alive to bring to trial.  The men who
are involved in the PET Project must be carefully chosen. They cannot have
families and children. If they do, and their identity is discovered, the
leaders of the pedophile rings kidnap, torture and murder their children.

The fact that 56 pedophiles are on trial in public leads me to believe that
the huge pedophile rings that circled the globe and were being eliminated by
the PET Projects, have been eliminated. Since their orders were to leave none
alive for trial, it makes me think that this trial is a signal that the ring
of government pedophiles has been destroyed.

If the high level government pedophile ring has been destroyed, this means
the NWO does not have the same control over European governments that it used
to have. Could this be the reason that the opposition to the NWO is very
slowly and carefully creating their own Euroforce, knowing that it
eventually throw the NWO's NATO out of Europe!

For those who have never read the original Operation Clydesdale, I will send
it out later tonight. It will come in two parts.
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56 accused in trial of French paedophile ring

By John Lichfield in Paris


3 December 1999

The defendants form a cross-section of provincial, conservative France: a
former army officer and Gaullist party official; two doctors; a teacher; a
gendarme; a builder; a photographer; and an obscure film director.

They are among 56 men on trial in Creteil in the Paris suburbs, accused of
belonging to a network of paedophiles which was dismantled in a series of
coordinated raids across the country two years ago. Another defendant, a
retired priest, died before the case came to trial.

The principal defendant, Jean-Marie Simonnet, 52, is a former parachute
regiment officer who was once a local official of the neo-Gaullist RPR party
in south-west France. He denied in court that he was a paedophile (he
explained that he was a