[CTRL] [ctrl] U.N. Observers Needed for U.S. Vote - Groups (fwd)

2004-10-15 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25852

U.S. ELECTIONS:
U.N. Observers Needed for U.S. Vote - Groups

Thalif Deen

A coalition of U.S.-based non-governmental organisations (NGOs) has
petitioned the United Nations seeking international observers to
monitor the upcoming U.S. presidential elections.

UNITED NATIONS, Oct 13 (IPS) - A coalition of U.S.-based non-
governmental organisations (NGOs) has petitioned the United Nations
seeking international observers to monitor the upcoming U.S.
presidential elections.

''We recognise that there are various levels of monitoring
activities that the United Nations can provide,'' says the petition,
signed by seven NGOs, including the Women's International League for
Peace and Freedom, the Economic Human Rights Project, Alliance for
Democracy and National Welfare Rights Union.

''We feel what is most crucial is U.N.-sponsored observers who can
provide an international perspective based on accessing the
elections through domestic NGO activities, in NGO-identified hot
spots and provide some international accountability,'' the petition
says.

In July this year, a group of U.S. legislators, mostly from the
opposition Democratic Party, asked U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan
to send a team of observers for the Nov. 2 elections.

''We are deeply concerned that the rights of U.S. citizens to vote
in free and fair elections are again in jeopardy,'' they said,
pointing out that the last presidential elections in 2000
were ''tainted,'' with nearly six million votes left uncounted,
mostly for technical or logistical reasons.

U.N. Associate Spokeswoman Marie Okabe told reporters in July,
the ''general policy and practice has been that the United Nations
responds to requests from national governments, not from legislative
bodies.''

Asked if it would respond favourably if such a request came from
governments, she said, ''From what I understand from the U.N.
electoral division, if the request comes from a government, that is
something that in practice and policy has been taken as
an 'official' request.''

''Now (how they would move forward), it's purely hypothetical in
this case. But as you do know, the observing of an election requires
a mandate from the General Assembly,'' Okabe added.

Told of the possible hurdle, a spokeswoman for the NGO coalition,
Grace Ross, told IPS: ''NGOs go through a different body of the
United Nations, the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC). We have
legal standing there.''

Ross added, ''legislative leaders don't have legal standing in the
U.N. General Assembly, or apparently anywhere in the United
Nations''.

That is the primary reason why an NGO request stands a better chance
of getting a favourable response from the United Nations than U.S.
congressional leaders or U.S. politicians, she argued.

The 2000 U.S. elections were marred by several voting
irregularities, including the disenfranchisement of minority voters -
- mostly in the state of Florida. A final decision on the outcome of
the election, which Bush won, was made by the U.S. Supreme Court.

''George W Bush was never elected president by the people of the
United States of America,'' says Francis Boyle, professor of
international law at the University of Illinois College of Law.

''Instead, he was anointed for that office by five justices of the
United States Supreme Court, who themselves had been appointed by
Republican presidents,'' Boyle told IPS.

He called Bush's installation, ''an act of judicial usurpation of
the American Constitution that was unprecedented in the history of
the American republic''.

''Had it occurred in a developing country, such subversion of
democratic processes would have been greeted with knowing derision
throughout the western world,'' Boyle added.

''So of course U.N. monitors are necessary,'' he said, ''but
ultimately it will be for the American people to fight for our own
republic and constitution. We cannot and must not pawn off that
sacred responsibility to the United Nations organisation,'' said
Boyle, author of 'Destroying World Order.'

In August the Bush administration agreed to accept a team of
international observers from the Organisation for Security and
Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), a first in U.S. presidential
elections.

''The United States is obliged to invite us, as all OSCE countries
should. It's 

Re: [CTRL] SNET: oil

2004-10-15 Thread William Bacon
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Steve,
And what is your solution? The revocation of everybody's civil liberties
and bow to the dictates of eco facists like you?




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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Steve Wingate wrote:


 On 14 Oct 2004 at 11:04, William Bacon wrote:

  Hello!
  With oilo near $54 per barrel, isn't time to develop more and new energy
  sources?
  I have several positive sources of information at :
  A HREF=http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html;Bill's energy page/A


 Oh I'm sure your hero and oilman Bush would be most interested in your ideas, Bill. 
 Hehe.

 Man, you need to get out of the John Birch Society and start thinking for yourself 
 instead of
 attacking environmentalists, as the aganda of corporate supported JBS attempts to 
 do. Is that
 possible, Bill? I hope so but think the odds are against it.

 Steve
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[CTRL] IUFO: God to Bush (fwd)

2004-10-15 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Stop using my name, you f*g asshole. You go to war and claim I'm on your side. 
F*ck you,
asshole. Stop killing in my name, OR ELSE. You know what I mean.

(This is a dramatization. No blasphemy here. Or threats, Secret Service.  ;-)

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[CTRL] oil near $55 a barrel, ISN'T time?????????????

2004-10-15 Thread William Bacon
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With oil now near $55 a barrel isn't time to start devloping known
existing energy sources under United States Political control? Please
check out my Energy webpage at
A HREF=http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html;Bill's United States
Energy resource page/A




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United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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[CTRL] [ctrl] A note of thanks to the adversaries of the disinformer John Birch Society: (fwd)

2004-10-14 Thread William Bacon
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johnperna  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For more information visit:
www.jbs.org
and
www.thenewamerican.com
and
www.trimonline.org
and
www.getusout.org


If you think you are too small to make a difference,
try sleeping in a closed room with a mosquito...
African Proverb

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Those who spend their time judging the efforts of others, contribute
nothing, of their own,
to this fight.  At the same time they diminish the successes of those who
ARE in the fight,
because they must fend off attacks from people;
who actually expect to be thought of as patriots.
It is interesting how those who do the least,
always have the most to say,
about what is wrong with those who do the most.

The energy that is wasted on infighting would bring victory for us all, if
it could just be
focused on the enemies of freedom.

Like the title of a book that we have all read,
It is VERY simple.

Those who spend their time fighting tyranny are patriots.

Those who spend their time fighting patriots are advancing tyranny

It takes more time, money and effort to BUILD a ship than it takes to SINK a
ship.
Those who think there is anything that The John Birch Society could do, that
would be better than
what they are doing, should demonstrate what would be better by their OWN
example.
They could start by producing a magazine that is as professionally done, and
as well read,
as The New American. Then they could create chapters all over the country,
that are managed by a
fully paid field staff. They could also produce a bulletin of action items
for these chapters
to follow. Then they could build a system of summer youth camps, and find
campers to
attend them. Then they could create a book publishing company that regularly
produces
new books, by scores of authors, and brings back old books that are no
longer available.
Then they could produce hundreds of videos, billboards, bumper stickers,
buttons, and
audios. Then they could set up a national network of retail bookstores to
distribute those
books, and other materials. They could also inspire hundreds of people to
enter gun shows
and fair booths all over the country. Then they could create a speakers
bureau and find
audiences for them. Do not leave out the all important visits to large media
brokers like CNN
and talk radio. Then they could produce ad hoc committees like TRIM, and
publish and
distribute TRIM bulletins.

I ask these people to please get back to me when they have done all of these
things.
Then their opinions would have some modicum of credibility.

There are pullers at the oars.
There are passengers in the boat.
AND there are conspirators, who want to steer the boat,
while others row.

Attacks on the John Birch Society, originating from persons, who claim to
believe in the same principles, should be very transparent. Their ONLY
effect is to waste the time that both the members, and the dropouts, could
spend opposing the enemies of freedom. One thing is clear:
No matter what is wrong with John Birch Society, it is THE BEST THAT WE
HAVE

We are like the Marine Corps of the patriot organizations.
We are just looking for a few good men and women.

To those who want to sink the ship I say,
why don't you just spend your efforts building another ship,
if you do not like this one?

Right now, I do not even see a life boat.

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- Original Message -
From: h5tech_47460 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: [ctrl] Re: [JBirch] Old Stuff (fwd)




John Birch Society is a DISINFORMATION group protecting ZIONIST
interests.





--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





 Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died
in
 United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

  visit my web site at
 http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court
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 I know that this is old stuff but why the hell are we in the UN. It
 is made up of and controlled by countries that have nothing to do
 with the principles of a democratic state.

 And that is to say nothing about the cost to the city of NY and the
 state of NY and to the US government.

 I don't see any

[CTRL] Kerry Shocks Sinclair with Enemies List (fwd)

2004-10-14 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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[CTRL] oil

2004-10-14 Thread William Bacon
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Hello!
With oilo near $54 per barrel, isn't time to develop more and new energy
sources?
I have several positive sources of information at :
A HREF=http://www.info-quest.org/Energy.html;Bill's energy page/A




Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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appeals doesn't want you to say.
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[CTRL] President Bush Finished Strong--It's Our Turn. (fwd)

2004-10-14 Thread William Bacon
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United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:05:00 -0400
From: Chairman Marc Racicot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: President Bush Finished Strong--It's Our Turn.

Dear William,

President Bush won a clear victory on substance, style and credibility in the final 
debate tonight - showing that he's the candidate who finishes strong. The President 
spoke with clarity, conviction and compassion about the most important issues facing 
our country.

On issue after issue, he showed Americans that he shares their values and priorities. 
He revealed just how far out of the mainstream Kerry's record lies on abortion, gay 
marriage, immigration, taxes, health care and fiscal discipline.

John Kerry showed how far he's willing to go to deceive the American people about this 
record when he said I've actually passed 56 individual bills that I've personally 
written. The fact is that he has only been the lead sponsor of 5 bills and 4 
resolutions that have become law.

The most revealing moments:

Kerry believes education is unrelated to the economy - this is a fundamental 
misunderstanding of how individuals achieve the American Dream.

President Bush believes that no child should be left behind when it comes to the 
quality of education she or he can get.

A good education is the foundation for opportunity, prosperity and success.
On immigration, John Kerry said, we need an earned legalization program for people 
who have been here a long time. This amnesty proposal stands in contrast to the 
President's temporary worker program.

President Bush revealed John Kerry's tendency to confuse a litany of complaints with a 
plan. John Kerry demonstrated that he didn't have a plan and he resorted to foreign 
policy attacks, because he does not have an agenda for America.

Now that the debates are over, we must concentrate on our efforts to turn out the 
vote. You can help turn out the vote by completing these tasks:

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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. Fw: [RightMarch] Stand Up for Sinclair's right to air Kerry documentary (fwd)

2004-10-14 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
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Subject: [RightMarch] Stand Up for Sinclair's right to air Kerry documentary


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ALERT:  The wanna-be censors at MoveOn.org are at it again.

They've tried to come against Fox News for over a year now,
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This time, the radical leftists at MoveOn.org want the FCC
to stop the Sinclair Broadcast Group from airing a new
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Stolen Honor investigates how Democrat presidential
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impacted the treatment of American soldiers and POWs.
Using John Kerry's own words, the documentary juxtaposes
John Kerry's actions with the words of veterans who were
still in Vietnam when John Kerry was leading the anti-war
movement.

Sinclair, owner of the largest chain of television
stations in the nation, has tentatively scheduled this
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as prisoners of war in Vietnam, which will include a
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weeks. They have invited Kerry to participate in the news
special as well, to tell HIS side of the story.

The liberals at MoveOn.org don't want ANY news reported
that could possibly reflect unfavorably on their far-left
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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. the insanity of John Kerry (fwd)

2004-10-13 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:15:42 -0400
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Subject: C.R.E.S.T. the insanity of John Kerry



John Kerry wants to reduce terrorism to where it is
only a nuisance and only a few thousand people
a year are killed by terrorists.

But when it comes to gun ins the hands of lawful Americans,
it is ZERO TOLERANCE, NO TOLERANCE AT ALL.

Under John Kerry and the commie Democrats, ALL GUNS will
be banned because any misuse of a gun is worst than a nuisance.

The only way that criminal misuse of guns can be controlled, is
by banning guns to lawful American.

Yes, you infringe the rights of lawful Americans, hoping to stop
criminals from being criminal.

The insanity of John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Mrs BJ Clinton, Boxer,
Schumer etc..

Do you know, that in the 20 years John Kerry has been the
Senator from Massachusetts, he has not even SAVED one
job from being lost to the state.

How is he going to create jobs then?

~~` Don in Mass.






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[CTRL] [JBirch] Old Stuff (fwd)

2004-10-12 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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I know that this is old stuff but why the hell are we in the UN. It
is made up of and controlled by countries that have nothing to do
with the principles of a democratic state.

And that is to say nothing about the cost to the city of NY and the
state of NY and to the US government.

I don't see any government offical with the courage to propose to get
us out of the UN and the UN out of the USA. Perhaps there may be an
offical or two who has the courage but not many that would make a
difference.

I am so tired of Kerry and his cohorts proposing that we submit our
government to the UN for PERMISSION to defend our nations.

Can you imagine what the world would be like if this one world
government was to become a reality. Bye bye freedom








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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. 59 Socialists In Congress (fwd)

2004-10-11 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 00:50:04 -
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Subject: C.R.E.S.T. 59 Socialists In Congress


We definitely won't be asking any of the following individuals to be
a part of a new continental congress.


59 Socialists In Congress
by Chuck Morse
http://www.gunowners.org/op0311.htm

On the extreme left wing of the Democratic Party, The Progressive
Caucus is affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America,
which, in turn, is the American affiliate of the Socialist
International. Congressional Caucus members, I would contend, should
actually be called Socialists rather than Democrats. Unlike their
European counterparts, these homegrown American Socialist Congressmen
try to refrain from showing their true authoritarian colors. Such
displays would be too risky in an America that is still steeped in
traditional freedoms. There are still enough of us out here who would
boot them out of office if they revealed too much of their true
stripe.

Socialists, like Communists, Nazis, Klansmen, or other political
groups, rightfully enjoy the same constitutional protections as the
rest of us. Unlike their more radical aforementioned counterparts
however, the socialists believe in changing the system by boring
from within rather than through illegal violence and sedition. As
such, they prefer legislation, often filled with deceptive legalese
and passed through Congress by duplicitous means, as their choice of
arms in their quest toward revolutionary goals. Socialists are
gradualists rather than extremists. They are slowly chipping away at
our G-d given rights.

Freedom loving Americans would be well advised to keep a close eye on
socialist Congressmen. While they may talk like the rest of us,
especially when sojourning in their respective districts, they
operate from a different paradigm. If they decide to support a war
against Iraq, for example, or any other intervention overseas, their
motives would more likely be based on an agenda that seeks to
entangle the US in a new world order than in protecting the interests
of sovereign America.

As a matter of principle and as an article of faith, socialists
support a socialist world government as an ultimate goal. The method
they employ is the gradual transfer of constitutional
responsibilities from elected American legislatures to international
agencies accountable to no one. Socialists are apt to support such
things as international standing armies, an international tax, the
transfer of American capital to third world dictators, and the
surrender of congressional responsibilities to the UN, the WTO, the
IMF, UNESCO and now the International Criminal Court. Whenever
communistic protocols emerge out of a UN sponsored conference, as is
always the case, and whenever such un-American protocols are rejected
by a still largely patriotic Congress, the socialist congressmen and
their allies will more than likely try to foist the protocol on the
American people through a back door.

Socialists believe in sovereignty eroding entanglements abroad and
big-state socialism at home. They support high taxes on working
people with the money transferred to bureaucracies staffed by their
friends. They support a welfare state that oppresses poor people,
especially minorities, who then become their constituents. They
support left-wing judges who are willing to subvert the democratic
power of Congress by making laws from the bench. While they support
mandatory public education, mandatory labor unions, mandatory racial
quotas, land-grabbing environmental regulation, and thought control
in the form of hate speech legislation, they turn around and become
downright libertarian when it comes to pornography, abortion, sex,
drugs, homosexuality, and other agendas that debauch the citizenry.
by Chuck Morse
Apr 2003
www.gunowners.org



Following is the Sept. 2002 membership list of the Progressive
Caucus:

Neil Abercrombie -- Hawaii
Tammy Baldwin -- Wisconsin
Xavier Becerra -- California
David Bonior -- Michigan
Corrine Brown -- Florida
Sherron Brown -- Ohio
Michael Capuano -- Massachusetts
Julia Carson -- Indiana
William Lacy Clay -- Missouri
John Conyers -- Michigan
Danny Davis -- Illinois
Peter DeFazio -- Oregon
Rosa DeLauro -- Connecticut
Lane Evans -- Illinois
Eni Faleomavaega -- Am Samoa
Sam Farr -- California
Chaka Fattah -- Pennsylvania
Bob Filner -- California
Barney Frank -- Massachusetts
Luis Gutierrez -- Illinois
Earl Hilliard -- Alabama
Maurice Hinchey 

[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] Fw: Injured, angry, determined, Swiftees unite to fight Kerry (fwd)

2004-10-11 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:40:14 -0700
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To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [TheEagle-L] Fw: Injured, angry, determined,
 Swiftees unite to fight Kerry



Kerry betrayed us by telling the people we were committing atrocities, Maj. Day 
says. A man who does that is not fit to lead. It's impossible to let this man 
masquerade as a war hero and someone who has leadership. To imagine this guy who 
betrayed us becoming president and him being the leader of our armed forces is just 
unthinkable.


- Original Message -
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To: Recipient list suppressed
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: Injured, angry, determined, Swiftees unite to fight Kerry


Source:
The Washington Times
http://www.washtimes.com/

Injured, angry, determined, Swiftees unite to fight Kerry
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041011-123955-3725r.htm

Midnight in South Vietnam, and the river is black. Past the rice paddies and shacks, 
small fires are burning by the shoreline as Lt. John H. Davis' 50-foot aluminum swift 
boat - PCF 19 - makes its routine patrol through the reeds.

In a split second, rocket fire shatters the silence, and through a plume of oily 
smoke, the boat sinks to the river's bottom.

My whole crew lost their lives that night. I was the only one who survived, Lt. 
Davis says.

Lt. Davis, now 62, lost his left eye. The bones in both legs were shattered. But the 
scars of war are nothing compared to the demons that wake him from his sleep, leaving 
him drenched in sweat and trembling with fear.

My latest nightmare was that I was pulling my crew out of the water. When it came to 
the last body, it was me.

Lt. Davis has come to Washington at his own expense, along with 89 other Swift Boat 
Veterans for Truth, to tape the eighth 60-second TV spot questioning Sen. John Kerry's 
fitness to be commander in chief.

They come from Oshkosh, Wis., and Orlando, Fla., San Francisco and Virginia Beach. One 
is on crutches. Others, former prisoners of war, walk stiffly, a result of being bound 
and tortured. Some wear their medals. Two are in cowboy boots.


Maj. Bud Day

Snow-haired Bud Day, a 79-year-old former POW, stands at attention. He is wearing a 
brown leather flight jacket befitting an Air Force major, complemented by the Medal of 
Honor around his neck. Others have donned Swift Boat baseball caps.

The silver-haired men - in natty ties, navy blazers and spit-shined shoes, their faces 
bronzed with Ben Nye matte foundation (tan suede) - line up under the hot lights in 
the cavernous soundstage at Atlantic Video on Massachusetts Avenue.

One by one, they share their stories with the cameras and defend their honor.

These Swiftees, at times jocular (breaking into Row, row, row your boat) and at 
other times on the verge of tears, are angry and frustrated. Not only because they say 
Mr. Kerry has lied about his service and refuses to sign the form that releases his 
military records to the public, but because 30 years ago, the candidate threw away his 
medals and called his fellow servicemen murderers, rapists, baby killers and cowards.

The weekend began with a dinner at the Key Bridge Marriott on Friday night, attended 
by a wealthy backer from Texas, T. Boone Pickens.

So far, they have raised more than $13 million - more than $4 million of which was 
contributed through their Internet site - and plan to step up their assault on the 
Democratic presidential candidate in the final weeks of the campaign. They raised an 
additional $2.5 million over the weekend and plan to spend $5 million more by Election 
Day.

The weekend shoot produced enough footage for two or three more ads, which the 
Swiftees plan to run starting Thursday in Pennsylvania and Ohio and in a few heavily 
military areas of Florida. Campaign analysts say the Swiftees have been highly 
effective in planting doubts about Mr. Kerry's fitness for office.

Vernon Smith, a 74-year-old Swiftee from Virginia Beach, didn't see any reason to come 
forward before, but when he read Tour of Duty, Mr. Kerry's account of his Vietnam 
service as written by historian Douglas Brinkley, he got angry.

I don't like the fabrications. Why does a man have to lie like that? He is totally 
unfit for command, he said.

Their beef with Mr. Kerry has driven them to action, the Swiftees say, as they search 
their collective memories for the truth. Many say they felt shame before, but now they 
are a band of brothers. Unfit for Command, 

[CTRL] Kerry, Marxist Terrorists, and FactCheck.org (fwd)

2004-10-10 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:49:34 -0700
From: Paull Sheldon Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brooks Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kerry, Marxist Terrorists, and FactCheck.org


Kerry, Marxist Terrorists, and FactCheck.org




October 10, 2004



Brooks Jackson

Director, Annenberg Political Fact Check

FactCheck.org
Annenberg Public Policy Center
320 National Press Building
Washington DC 20045



(202) 879-6700

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Dear Mr. Jackson:



In the debates, Senator John Kerry has stressed that America went to war in
Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction.  Senator Kerry claims that he
supports a focus of a war on terrorism.  The complete facts do not support
his selective, misleading claims.



Fact 1.  In the September 12, 2002 background paper for President Bush's
speech to the United Nations General Assembly, A Decade of
Deception and Defiance, the White House named three terrorist
organizations operating from Iraq: (1) Mujahedin-e-Khalq (MEK or
MKO) (2) Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) (3) Abu Nidal
Organization. The background paper did not note that the MEK and
its front, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, operated from
a registered office close to the White House: 1051 National Press
Building, 529 14th Street, N.W., Washington, DC 20045.  This fact should be
very easy for you to confirm.  The MEK had an office in the National Press
Building.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912.html











Fact 2.  On January 15, 2003, the New York Times published a full-page
advertisement claiming that 150 members of Congress had signed a statement
of support for the MEK.  The advertisement included the names and
photographs of 6 of the members of Congress (3 Democrats and 3 Republicans):
Democrats Bob Filner (California), Sheila Jackson-Lee (Texas), Edolphus
Towns (New York); Republicans Lincoln Diaz-Balart (Florida), Ileana
Ros-Lehtinen (Florida), Tom Tancredo (Colorado).



Fact 3.  During former President Bill Clinton's administration, the State
Department classified the MEK as Marxist terrorists.  During President
George W. Bush's administration, the State Department continued to classify
the MEK as Marxist terrorists.  The basis for the classification, in
addition to the murders of large numbers of Iranians, includes the killings
of American military officers, Rockwell International employees, and of
Iraqis.  The MEK has posted online at more than one Web site a free book,
Democracy Betrayed, to provide the MEK's version of the events.



U.S. Air Force Brigadier General Harold Price (wounded May 31, 1972)
U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Lewis Hawkins (killed June 2, 1973)
U.S. Air Force Colonel Paul Schaeffer (killed May 21, 1975)
U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Jack Turner (killed May 21, 1975)
William C. Cottrell, Rockwell International (killed August 28, 1976)
Robert R. Krongrad, Rockwell International (killed August 28, 1976)
Donald G. Smith, Rockwell International (killed August 28, 1976)



For one of the Web sites (which includes links to other Web sites), see:

http://www.iran-e-azad.org/english/



Fact 4.  At his March 6, 2003 press conference, President Bush criticized
Saddam Hussein's support of Al-Qaeda-like terrorist organizations.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030306-8.html



Fact 5.  During the invasion of Iraq, American military personnel worked
with Iraqis to attack the MEK Marxist terrorists in Iraq.  Major wire
services provided stories or photographs of the deaths and destruction at
Camp Ashraf.  See, for example, Kevin Frayer (AP) and Petr Josek (Reuters).







Fact 6.  The MEK has praised the support of some members of Congress in its
free book, Democracy Betrayed. For the MEK's praise of Senator John Kerry,
Democratic Party candidate for President, see:
http://www.iran-e-azad.org/english/special/chap2.html



Fact 7.  The MEK has posted online documents (click on the names of the
members of Congress to see the supporting documents) from some members of
Congress supporting the MEK even after American soldiers died fighting in
Iraq.



*http://www.maryam-rajavi.org/docs/supports/usa/SamBrownback.pdf
Senator Sam Brownback - United States Senate
*
http://www.maryam-rajavi.org/docs/supports/usa/Brownback,campbelli.tif
Senator Campbell - United States Senate
*http://www.maryam-rajavi.org/docs/supports/usa/Towns.pdf Ed Towns
- Member of Congress
*http://www.maryam-rajavi.org/docs/supports/usa/DennisMoore.pdf
Dennis Moore- Member 

[CTRL] John Kerry and IRS 501c-3 regulations

2004-10-10 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

How come John Kery (radical left wing/marxist/lenninst candidate fpr
President of the United States) can campaign at a Church today in Florida
and not worry about violating IRS Regulation 501-c-3? Doesn't this show
selective enforcement of subject rgulation?
Bill Bacon




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United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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[CTRL] Reviews Are In--President Bush Won Decisive Victory! (fwd)

2004-10-09 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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Re: [CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. Alert: Watch the U.N. Gun Debate to take away our guns (fwd)

2004-10-08 Thread William Bacon
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Yes, read your constitution, treaties are made in pursanat to the
costitution, like federal lawas, any treaty of federal law which goes
counter to the constitution is null and void.




Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Mere treaties do not supersede the organic
law of the United states of America, for then
any treaty could nullify the entire Constitution.

As the Constitution cannot be negated by a treaty,
neither can any portion thereof.

Treaties, that secure or advance the rights to be secured
by the Constitution, are constitutional, all else are not.





At 05:20 AM 10/8/04 +, you wrote:


The poll question after the debate will be what?

Should the United States Senate ratify the proposed United Nations
treaty that bans private ownership of firearms?

Bans what?

The UN couldn't possibly be thinking about banning private ownership
of firearms in the US now could it?

Just suppose the senate would ratify it.  That, my friends, would be
an immediate call to arms.  They wouldn't anyway because I'm sure
they would hate getting tar and feathers all over their nice fancy
suits.

Anybody know where to see a copy of this proposed treaty?










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[CTRL] Peggy Noonan on Dems; Byrd Throws Kerry in Garbage (fwd)

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[CTRL] [new_world_order_survival] NRA NEWSFw: Alert: Watch the U.N. Gun Debate to take away our guns (fwd)

2004-10-07 Thread William Bacon
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Yet another reason TO GET OUT OF THE UNITED NATIONS!




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[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] Team America/World Police (fwd)

2004-10-06 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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I don't know about anyone else, but I think the concept/message/intent behind this new 
movie from the makers of South Park is frankly, repulsive!

A New World Order invention, no doubt, and a prime example of indoctrinating small 
children through the use of clay puppets to imbed the idea that a World Police force 
that guns down innocents in the street is somehow cool.  Geez, whatever happened to 
Bambi?

I suppose if we force feed little babies of the militant propaganda that killing is 
cool, by the time they are 15 they will be ready to take up arms, be drafted, and go 
to their deaths in order to fight for the causes (and profits) of the big oil barrens?

Why can't we inspire creative thinking that would lead to the invention of alternative 
fuels instead?

Don't teach your young ones BLIND HATE!  Boycott this movie!


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[CTRL] [JBirch] Re: JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER (fwd)

2004-10-05 Thread William Bacon
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  In  this case, American computer/IT  workers  desperate
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  It's the great unanswered business-economic question of
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[CTRL] [JBirch] FW: The New American - October 18, 2004 Issue (fwd)

2004-10-05 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Subject: [JBirch] FW: The New American - October 18, 2004 Issue

The following articles from the
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/10-18-2004/index.htm October 18,
2004 issue of THE NEW AMERICAN are now available online.

 http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/10-18-2004/index.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/10-18-2004/unfriendly.htm
Unfriendly Skies
Courageous federal agents are warning against airport security weaknesses
that existed prior to 9/11 - and still exist today.

 http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/10-18-2004/911.htm Agents
Challenge 9/11 Commission
Agents on the front lines of the war on terror have risked their careers to
warn America about the corruption and culpable negligence that continue to
put our nation in peril.

 http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/10-18-2004/tyranny.htm An End to
Judicial Tyranny?
Twice this year, the House has passed bills to curb judicial activism by
limiting federal court jurisdiction.


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Re: [CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. Read to the bottom please (fwd)

2004-10-03 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:52:44 -0700
From: Linda Fogh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: C.R.E.S.T. Read to the bottom please

Add local business licenses too. Totals 54

From: spiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: C.R.E.S.T. Read to the bottom please
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:23:13 -0700

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the
most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had
the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise
the kids. What the heck happened?

TAXES

Accounts Receivable Tax

Building Permit Tax

Capital Gains Tax

CDL license Tax

Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Court Fines (indirect taxes)

Dog License Tax

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

Fishing License Tax

Food License Tax

Fuel permit tax

Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)

Hunting License Tax

Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)

Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

Liquor Tax

Local Income Tax

Luxury Taxes

Marriage License Tax

Medicare Tax

Property Tax

Real Estate Tax

Septic Permit Tax

Service Charge Taxes

Social Security Tax

Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)

Sales Taxes

Recreational Vehicle Tax

Road Toll Booth Taxes

School Tax

State Income Tax

State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)

Telephone federal excise tax

Telephone federal universal service fee tax

Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes

Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax

Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax

Telephone state and local tax

Telephone usage charge tax

Toll Bridge Taxes

Toll Tunnel Taxes

Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)

Trailer registration tax

Utility Taxes

Vehicle License Registration Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft registration Tax

Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax

IRS Theme Song
http://www.taxguru.org/fun/jokes.htm

Tax his cow, Tax his goat;
Tax his pants, Tax his coat;
Tax his crop, Tax his work;
Tax his ties, Tax his shirt;
Tax his chew, Tax his smoke
Teach him taxing is no joke.
Tax his tractor, Tax his mule;
Tell him, Taxing is the rule.
Tax his oil, Tax his gas
Tax his notes, Tax his cash
Tax him good and let him know,
That after taxes, he has no dough.
If he hollers, Tax him more;
Tax him till he's good and sore.
Tax his coffin, Tax his grave,
Tax his sod in which he's laid.
Put these words upon his tomb,
Taxes drove him to his doom.
After he's gone, we won't relax.
We'll still collect inheritance tax.




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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. boy ain't his the truth (fwd)

2004-10-03 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:46:07 -0400
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Subject: C.R.E.S.T. boy ain't his the truth



Voting for Kerry is voting for a SOCIALIST which is
the same as a Communist. WAKE UP AMERICA!  Kerry wants
to take away our rights, not protect them.  The
Democtatic Party has an evil agenda anf those whop
don't see it are simply naive.

God help us all !
Blessings!
In Christ,
Walter



Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:05:37 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Rick Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Are police officers above the law?



d_epp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: d_epp
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:55:48 -
Subject: [PAG] Are police officers above the law?


Some seem to think so.

http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/takingaim/above.htm

By Nicki Fellenzer

A few days ago, Armed Females of America leadership asked me to reply
to an inquiry by someone using the handle of Ranger and purporting
to be a police officer asking why AFA does not support H.R. 218.(the
Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act) As National Spokesperson for
this organization, I formulated a reply to this inquiry. What
transpired can only be called ludicrous and, to an extent,
frightening.

It's true police officers put their lives on the line. They face
dangers. Many of them are at risk every time they put on a uniform. I
have nothing but respect for the law enforcement community. The
numerous letters of support Armed Females of America has received
from peace officers around the country are gratifying and duly
appreciated.

But there are some out there who soil the very badge they wear. They
are oath-breakers. They are petty tyrants, traitors to the US
Constitution, irrational, illogical, immature, self-absorbed children
who chose this noble profession in order to wield their power over
the little folk. These are the police officers to be feared. These
are the police officers who foster distrust and discord between the
police and the people they have sworn to protect and serve. These are
miserable mediocrities who engage in vain chest-pounding about how
brave, how heroic and how special they are, while they exert their
considerable force over the people who they believe are less
deserving, less special and less brave than they are.

I urge you to decide for yourself which type of cop engaged in the
following exchange.



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[CTRL] [JBirch] STATE DEPARTMENT PUBLICATION 7277 - FREEDOM FROM WAR (fwd)

2004-10-02 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 07:13:49 -
From: savefreedom2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] STATE DEPARTMENT PUBLICATION 7277 - FREEDOM FROM WAR


Read
STATE DEPARTMENT PUBLICATION 7277 - FREEDOM FROM WAR:
The United States' Program For General And Complete Disarmament
In A Peaceful World
Visit:
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html

THIS DATES BACK TO 1961

If you want to cut to the chase just read the last page.
At the end, you will find this blunt summary:

In Stage III progressive controlled disarmament and continuously
developing principles and procedures of international law would
proceed to a point where no state would have the military power to
challenge the progressively strengthened U.N. Peace Force and all
international disputes would be settled according to the agreed
principles of international conduct.

You will find the complete discussion of weapons of mass
destruction.

Can we live by the rules that we are enforcing?

Who has the most
weapons of mass destruction in the world by far?
Who has the Nuclear weapons?
Who has the 15,000 pound daisy cutters?

United Nations inspectors will be monitoring our elections in Nov.
2004

  We fought this war to turn Iraq over to the United Nations.



We are angry because terrorists did damage in our country.
Our national pride was hurt.
We swore to obtain justice, or maybe even vengence.

We went to war because we say that Saddam has weapons of mass
destruction.
But, who has THE MOST weapons of mass destruction?
Which is the only country that has ever dropped a
nuclear bomb on a civilian population?

After we EMPOWER THE UNITED NATIONS,
in the name of opposing weapons of mass destruction,
then how will we refuse to live by the rules that we demanded?

Over and over again,
we have let our leaders drop bombs on other countries,
and we called this patriotism.
Now there are people all over the world,
who want to do the same thing to us,
and we call this terrorism.

Now our leaders tell us that to stop terrorism,
we must drop more bombs.
How will this cycle end?

Bombing other countries;
which have not invaded us,
is not defense.
That is aggression.
This is all about EMPOWERING THE UNITED NATIONS.

Our leaders are United Nations puppets, who have no intention of
saving this country from the United Nations.
New World Order one worlder stooges have run our government for
generations.
Read Department of State Publication 7277;
which has been in effect since September of 1961


visit:
http://www.mikenew.com/pub7277.html
OR
http://members.tripod.com/~Bill_Fisher/jbsapr91.html
OR
http://feralnews.com/issues/jfk/US_Dept_of_State_Publication_7277.html


The Full text follows:

Department of State Publication 7277


THE UNITED STATES PROGRAM
FOR GENERAL AND COMPLETE DISARMAMENT
IN A PEACEFUL WORLD

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

DEPARTMENT OF STATE PUBLICATION 7277
Disarmament Series 5
Released September 1961

Office of Public Services
BUREAU OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS

For sale by the Superintendent ot Documents, U.S. Government
Printing Office, Washington 25, D.C. - Price 15 cents

INTRODUCTION

The revolutionary development of modern weapons within a world
divided by
serious ideological differences has produced a crisis in human
history. In
order to overcome the danger of nuclear war now confronting mankind,
the
United States has introduced, at the Sixteenth General Assembly of
the United
Nations, a Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful
World.

This new program provides for the progressive reduction of the war-
making
capabilities of nations and the simultaneous strengthening of
international
institutions to settle disputes and maintain the peace. It sets forth
a
series of comprehensive measures which can and should be taken in
order to
bring about a world in which there will be freedom from war and
security for
all states. It is based on three principles deemed essential to the
achievement of practical progress in the disarmament field:

First, there must be immediate disarmament action:

A strenuous and uninterrupted effort must be made toward the goal of
general
and complete disarmament; at the same time, it is important that
specific
measures be put into effect as soon as possible.

Second, all disarmament obligations must be subject to effective
international controls: The control organization must have the
manpower,
facilities, and effectiveness to assure that limitations or
reductions take
place as agreed. It must also be able to 

[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. thanks to the disinformer adversaries of the John Birch Society (fwd)

2004-09-29 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:02:12 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: C.R.E.S.T. thanks to the disinformer adversaries of the John Birch
Society

A note of thanks to the disinformer adversaries of the John Birch Society:

Many thanks to the adversaries of the John Birch Society.
It is an axiom in politics,
that the most important consideration,
in dealing with attackers,
is that you make sure that they spell your name correctly.
The adversaries of the John Birch Society
can only have a small amount of success;
which depends entirely on their hope that they will be the only source of
information.
The curiousity that these attackers create,
will cause the most intelligent people to investigate,
and then learn the truth.
Agents of totalitarianism generally over estimate their own importance,
by assuming that we will waste our time,
in dealing with their foolishness.
There is nothing,
that any intelligent person wants to know
about The John Birch Society,
that he will not learn,
by consulting the web pages below.
Anyone; who honestly does want first hand information
about the John Birch Society will do so,
and will not be distracted be disinformers.
It is VERY simple.
Those who spend their time fighting tyranny, are patriots.

Those who spend their time fighting patriots are working for the advancing
of tyranny.

The internet can be the most powerful tool that we have,
or it can be the place where we waste our time.
THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS WHETHER,
OR NOT YOUR EFFORTS LEAD PEOPLE TO AN ACTION AGENDA.

The New American Magazine is available at:
www.thenewamerican.com

If you learn to use the search engine,
http://www.thenewamerican.com/website/search.htm
and the subject index,
http://www.thenewamerican.com/focus/index.htm
then you will have better information.
then you will be able to provide links,
which will increase the traffic at The New American web site,
and have the potential of actually leading to concerted action.

The John Birch Society has a national network of chapters
The John Birch Society has a fully paid field staff.
The John Birch Society publishes a MONTHLY bulletin FILLED WITH action items
for these chapters to follow.
The John Birch Society has system of summer youth camps.
The John Birch Society has Western Islands book publishing company;
which regularly produces new books, by scores of authors,
and brings back old books; which were no longer available.
The John Birch Society produces hundreds of videos, billboards, bumper
stickers, buttons, and audios.
The John Birch Society has a national network of retail bookstores to
distribute those books, and other materials.
The John Birch Society inspires hundreds of people to enter gun shows
and fair booths all over the country.
The John Birch Society has a speakers bureau,
and finds audiences for these speakers.
The John Birch Society does all important visits to large media brokers like
CNN and talk radio.
The John Birch Society has ad hoc committees like TRIM, and publishes and
distributes TRIM bulletins, showing voting records of congressmen and makes
these available online at:
www.trimonline.org

Imagine this:
1. You have a plumbing emergency,
that is so serious that you call a radio talk show,
and ask for a plumber to come at once.
2. Hundreds of plumbers show up,
but only one has the tools to do the job.
WHO WOULD YOU HIRE

5% of the people make things happen.
15% of the people watch things happen.
80% of the people never know what happened.

If you are in this group,
we know that you are not one of those 80% of the people,
who never know what happened.
At the very LEAST you are watching things happen.

The question is whether you want to be one of the
15% of the people who watch things happen.
OR one of the
5% of the people who MAKE things happen.

One of the biggest differences between the John Birch Society,
and almost every other organization,
that you may have known,
is that we have AN ACTION AGENDA.
Many people are surprised to find out that
there is actually something to DO ABOUT all of these problems.
It is NOT our goal to make you into the most knowledgeable patriot
in the entire concentration camp.

We want to live the rest of our lives in peace and freedom.
To do that, we need to TAKE ACTION.
We also need a lot MORE PEOPLE,
who will TAKE ACTION.

If you are not yet a part of the action agenda,
it is time to join.

For more information about membership in
The John Birch Society email me at:


[CTRL] [JBirch] WSCongress Considers Free Speech Protection For Churches (fwd)

2004-09-28 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:42:15 PDT
From: carl william spitzer iv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] WSCongress Considers Free Speech Protection For Churches



  By Jeff Johnson
  CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief


  Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - In the past 22 years,  the
 Internal  Revenue Service has either revoked the  tax-exempt
 status of a church or religious organization or levied taxes
 on such a group for engaging in prohibited political activ-
 ities  fewer than ten times. But some members  of  Congress
 say that is ten times too many.

  The  House  Ways and Means  Subcommittee  on  Oversight
 Tuesday  heard  testimony on two bills designed  to  protect
 churches and other religious organizations from the IRS: the
 Bright-Line Act of 2001 and the Houses of Worship  Political
 Speech Protection Act.

  The  Bright-Line Act of 2001 would amend  the  Internal
 Revenue  Code to allow churches to participate or  intervene
 in  political campaigns while still maintaining  their  tax-
 exempt  status,  so  long as such  participation  is  not  a
 substantial part of their activities.

  The  Houses of Worship Political Speech Protection  Act
 is a more detailed proposal. It would deny tax-exempt status
 to any non-profit organization if the organization:

  -  Devotes a substantial part of its activities,  and
 20 percent or more of its annual gross revenues to influence
 legislation; or
  -  Spends  five  percent or more of  its  annual  gross
 revenues  to participate or intervene in any political  cam-
 paign  on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate  for
 public  office, including publishing or distributing  state-
 ments; or
  - Normally spends in excess of 20 percent of its annual
 gross revenues on a combination of the two activities.

  Colby  May, senior counsel for the American Center  for
 Law and Justice, says it is essential that one of the  bills
 be passed into law.

  If  this  were  1953, we wouldn't  need  this  hearing
 because  churches  were able to do this without  concern  or
 fear  that federal government was going to come  and  revoke
 their tax exemption, May said.

  In fact, prior to 1954, churches were deemed to be able
 to  speak out on any issue they desired. What some call  the
 separation  of  state from church mandated  by  the  First
 Amendment  proclamation  that, Congress shall make  no  law
 respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting  the
 free exercise thereof, was considered to be absolute.

  Then  on July 2, 1954, then-Senator Lyndon Johnson  (D-
 Texas)  introduced an amendment to a tax code revision  that
 was being considered on the Senate floor.

  The amendment, which prohibits all non-profit groups  -
 including  churches  - from engaging in  political  activity
 without  losing  their  tax-exempt status,  passed  with  no
 debate.  It  was later learned that Johnson  introduced  the
 amendment  in  response to  two  non-profit,  anti-communist
 organizations opposing his primary re-election bid in Texas.

  Despite the origin of the current law, Rev. Barry Lynn,
 executive  director  of Americans United for  Separation  of
 Church  and State, says it must remain in force to avoid  a
 reckless experiment in mixing religion with partisan  polit-
 ics.

  Make  no  mistake.  These bills  are  not  about  free
 speech, Lynn claimed in his testimony to the  subcommittee.
 Instead they would promote the corruption of the church and
 the corruption of the political process.

  Lynn's  group  also opposes  public  school  graduation
 prayers,  the  display  of the Ten  Commandments  on  public
 property,  and  the teaching of the  theory  of  intelligent
 design alongside the theory of evolution in public schools.

  Dr.  D. James Kennedy, president of Coral Ridge  Minis-
 tries,  notes  the difficulty even tax  lawyers,  much  less
 religious leaders, have interpreting the current IRS regula-
 tions.

  I  have  talked  to many ministers who  will  not  say
 anything  on any social issue or any other issue that  might
 be 

[CTRL] [JBirch] WSU.S. is No 1. in school spending (fwd)

2004-09-28 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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But not in results.  CWSIv


  By Ben Feller
  The Associated Press

  WASHINGTON  -- Given its investment  in  education,
 the  United States isn't getting the return it expects  when
 compared  with  the performance of other nations,  a  report
 shows.

  Among  more  than  25  industrialized  nations,  no
 country spends more public and private money to educate each
 student  than  the  United States, according  to  an  annual
 review by the Paris-based Organization for Economic Coopera-
 tion and Development.

  But  American 15-year-olds scored in the middle  of
 the  pack  in  math, reading and science in  2000,  and  the
 nation's  high-school  graduation rate was below  the  world
 average in 2001.

  The  countries  that  spend more tend  to  be  the
 countries  that  do  better. But . . . it's  not  a  perfect
 relationship,  said Barry McGaw, the organization's  educa-
 tion director. There are countries which don't get the bang
 for the bucks. And the U.S. is one of them.

  Education Secretary Rod Paige, chosen by  President
 Bush to oversee the nation's public school reforms, said the
 results confirm that schools here have grown complacent, and
 that a new law tying federal spending to school  performance
 will help. Other countries, he said, are moving ahead  while
 the  United  States  remains mired  in  internal  education
 politics and mediocrity.

  I don't think we've come to grips with the urgency
 of this situation, he said.

  But  other education advocates  said  international
 spending comparisons can be misleading, and they contend the
 federal government is shortchanging schools just as academic
 expectations soar.

  The  United States spent $10,240 per  student  from
 elementary school through college in 2000, according to  the
 report.  Average  spending among more than  25  nations  was
 $6,361. The range stretched from less than $3,000 per  stud-
 ent  in  Turkey, Mexico, the Slovak Republic and  Poland  to
 more than $8,000 per student in Denmark, Norway, Austria and
 Switzerland.

  Australia,  Finland, Ireland, Korea and the  United
 Kingdom are examples of nations that have moderate  spending
 on  primary and lower secondary education but  high  perfor-
 mance by 15-year-olds in key subject areas, the report said.

  The United States fared better in reading  literacy
 among fourth-graders, where it finished among the top  scor-
 ers in 2001. But the declining performance as students  grow
 older should serve as a wake-up call that the nation has two
 gaps  to  fill, Paige said: one between it and  other  coun-
 tries,  and  one between top performing  and  low  achieving
 students here.

  U.S. students should be challenged to work  harder,
 said  Jack  Jennings, director of the  Center  on  Education
 Policy,  a research group that advocates for  better  public
 schools.

  But the nation's investment in education deserves a
 closer  look, Jennings said. Many school districts  rely  on
 property  taxes,  yielding  inequities  between  richer  and
 poorer  areas that are masked by overall numbers,  he  said.
 And  the United States has expectations of its schools  that
 many countries don't, such as sports programs that drive  up
 costs, he said.

  You can't just put dollars in one column and  test
 scores in another column, he said. Life is more complicat-
 ed than that.

  Nationwide, states are dealing with the federal  No
 Child  Left  Behind  law requiring them  to  chart  adequate
 yearly  progress -- not just for a school's overall  popula-
 tion,  but  for groups such as minorities and  students  who
 speak little English. Sanctions grow by the year for schools
 that receive low-income aid but don't improve enough.

  No  other  country  is imposing  such  a  rigorous
 requirement on its schools, McGaw said.

  Federal education spending has grown by 

[CTRL] William's GOP.com Weekly Trunk (fwd)

2004-09-27 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: William's GOP.com Weekly Trunk

THE WEEKLY TRUNK - GOP.COM



William, today the RNC launched www.flippercam.com. As John Kerry travels the country 
campaigning in the last 36 days of this election, he’ll be followed by a school of 
dolphins, led by Flipper, who will highlight Kerry’s flip-flops on every major issue 
from the war on terror to whether or not he owns an assault rifle or an SUV.

As Flipper, Flopper, Flapper and Friends travel the Great Lakes region, the dolphins 
will provide daily updates via Flipper Cam which features video feeds from the road.

Each Friday the RNC will announce the results of the Name a Dolphin Contest based on 
suggestions submitted to the website throughout the week.

On a lot of issues Senator Kerry only has two or three positions.  On Iraq he has 10 
which means we need more dolphins, said RNC Communications Director Jim Dyke.

Today Flipper and Friends are in Wisconsin. To see Flipper and Friends as they travel 
the country, go to http://www.flippercam.com?UID=4073651

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[CTRL] [JBirch] WSLabor Secretary Chao: U.N. a Threat to U.S. (fwd)

2004-09-25 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: [JBirch] WSLabor Secretary Chao: U.N. a Threat to U.S.



  Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com,

  ARLINGTON,  Va.  -  President  Bush's  labor  secretary
 warned a gathering of conservatives that Americans must  pay
 more attention to the United Nations and its related organi-
 zations,  which she noted were chipping away at U.S.  sover-
 eignty and threatening freedoms.

  Labor  Secretary Elaine Chao, making her  charges  late
 Thursday  at the Conservative Political  Action  Conference,
 explained that powerful tax-exempt organizations were apply-
 ing  pressure through the U.N. to have the world  body  make
 decisions  for Americans' lives without any input from  U.S.
 citizens.

  These  efforts are being made without the knowledge  of
 most Americans, she pointed out.

  Chao cited a recent case where a labor union complained
 to the United Nations that the U.S. government was violating
 international law and international standards on the  treat-
 ment of government employees.

  The idea that tax-exempt U.N. and allied non-government
 organizations would presume to dictate to Americans how they
 live, work and conduct themselves on their internal business
 was  a  major  theme late Thursday at CPAC,  not  only  from
 Secretary Chao but also from panelists who preceded her.

  Foreign Parasites

  Tom  DeWeese, president of the American Policy  Center,
 charged that the goal of this unholy alliance was to  erase
 national boundaries, redistribute wealth on an internation-
 al scale and steer decisions on American affairs from repre-
 sentative government to the global village, with all of us
 as global citizens.

  He  and another panelist, Jeff Gayner of Americans  for
 Sovereignty, called for the U.S. to get out of the U.N.  and
 to force the U.N. to get out of the U.S.

  Secretary  Chao cited not only labor organizations  but
 also groups in other areas of concern, such as Environmental
 Policy Institute and self-described human rights groups that
 have  used their tax-exempt status to try to bring the  U.S.
 into  line with their worldview, without a  single  American
 vote being cast or even an awareness on the part of most U.S
 citizens.

  The  long list of accredited left-of-center  NGOs,  she
 said, have become key players in laying the groundwork  for
 international  law and, she fears, one day, the U.S.  will
 be pressured to adopt the globalist agenda without a single
 vote being cast.

  Social Engineering

  The  internationalist-minded  NGOs, the  secretary  ob-
 served,  are encouraging the U.N. and its offshoot  agencies
 to  pressure  the  United  States  into  policies  mandating
 gender  neutrality and reallocating defense  expenditures
 for other left-favored causes.

  Conservatives  who  ignore  the U.N. do  so  at  their
 peril, Chao declared.

  DeWeese  said the international tentacles of  the  NGOs
 reached  down  to local governments around the  country.  He
 said  they were working with city and county governments  to
 use  familiar  programs to forge ahead with  such  ideas  as
 sustainable  development, and smart growth,  euphemisms,
 he said, for pressuring us out of the wide-open suburbs  and
 into  crowded cities. These policies also make housing  more
 expensive, though liberal politicians constantly bemoan  the
 lack of affordable housing, a shortage they have abetted.

  If  you  love  liberty, the  American  Policy  Center
 president  told  CPAC,  sustainable  development  is   your
 enemy.

  The job-killing, China-boosting Kyoto global  warming
 treaty  and the International Criminal Court, both  rejected
 by President Bush, are just the tip of the iceberg,  DeWeese
 warned.

  Few  Americans  are  aware of what is  going  on,  he
 noted.

  It goes to the philosophy of these particular NGOs that
 all  living creatures are the same, perhaps  crowing  humans
 together in cities, with the animals looking in.

  Gayner said Americans would have to use the same mantra
 with 

[CTRL] [JBirch] Fw: [ANTI-homosexual-lesbianmovement] Discrimination against white, heterosexual male found (fwd)

2004-09-25 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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against white, heterosexual male found



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Subject: [ANTI-homosexual-lesbianmovement] Discrimination against white,
heterosexual male found


Discrimination against white male found


By George Archibald
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


An English professor at the University of North Carolina illegally
subjected a student to intentional discrimination and harassment
because he was a white, heterosexual Christian male who expressed
disapproval of homosexuality, the U.S. Education Department's Office
of Civil Rights has ruled.
Professor Elyse Crystall violated student Timothy R. Mertes' civil
rights, the agency said, by improperly accusing him of hate speech
in an e-mail sent to students after a class discussion in which Mr.
Mertes said he was a Christian and felt disgusted, not threatened by
homosexual behavior.







The e-mail message not only subjected the student to intentional
discrimination and harassment, but also discouraged the robust
exchange of ideas that is intrinsic to higher education and is at the
very heart of the Constitution's protection of free speech, Alice B.
Wender, the Education Department's southern regional director of civil
rights concluded in a letter to UNC Chancellor James Moeser on Wednesday.
The ruling was hailed by Rep. Walter B. Jones, North Carolina
Republican, who requested a civil rights probe five months ago after
learning about the student's plight from a Raleigh talk-radio show.
This vindicates this young man's First Amendment rights to speak
out, as he has acknowledged, as a Christian, Mr. Jones said. So I'm
going to look at this as a victory for students in this country who
feel that they have a right to express themselves. If you don't have
that right in a collegiate classroom, what rights do you have?
The department's letter said no penalty or further action was
necessary because Ms. Crystall had apologized for her actions and the
university had convened faculty workshops to discourage race and sex
discrimination against white, male, Christian undergraduates.
Mr. Moeser, Ms. Crystall and Mr. Mertes did not respond to
inquiries yesterday.
The federal ruling comes as Mr. Moeser and UNC administrators at
the Chapel Hill campus have moved this month to shut down a male
Christian fraternity there, Alpha Iota Omega, on the grounds the
student group is violating the university's anti-discrimination policy
because it excludes non-Christians and self-professed homosexuals from
membership. The fraternity has filed a federal lawsuit against UNC to
protect its membership policy from university interference.
This adds another example to what is a problem at the University
of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and also, I believe, it's a problem
across this nation, Mr. Jones said of the UNC effort to shut down the
fraternity.
There have been similar efforts against Christian student groups
at Gonzaga University in Spokane, Wash., the Pennsylvania State
University, the University of Minnesota, the University of Oklahoma
and Southwest Missouri State University.
The civil rights probe of UNC involved a discussion seminar on
diversity issues — required for graduation for which Ms. Crystall was
the professor, according to Ms. Wender's 11-page letter announcing the
agency's decision.
In a session in February, students told investigators that they
were discussing one author's views that society affords whites,
males, and heterosexuals privileges that others, for example, blacks,
women and homosexuals, do not have, the decision letter stated.
A topic of the session was whether heterosexual men felt
'threatened' by homosexual men. Toward the end of the class, Mr.
Mertes stated that  'threatened' was the wrong word to use.
According to the letter, Mr. Mertes cited the example of a friend
in California who is a Christian and who was propositioned by a gay
man. He got a love letter from this man, and he felt dirty and
disgusted, not threatened.
Mr. Mertes told the class that, as a Christian, he felt the same
way, the letter said. He would not want to have to explain to his
6-year-old why 

[CTRL] [JBirch] Fw: The New American - October 4, 2004 Issue (fwd)

2004-09-24 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: The New American - October 4, 2004 Issue

The following articles from the October 4, 2004 issue of THE NEW AMERICAN
are now available online.
Who Will Watch the Watchers?
Mexico’s emerging surveillance state offers a sobering look into the future
if the Power Elite’s proposal for a continental security perimeter becomes
reality.
Spinning a Larger Web
The Trilateral blueprint for shaping a community of the developed nations of
North America, Western Europe and Japan has been extended to other parts of
the globe.




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[CTRL] HUMAN EVENTS Weekly Wrap-Up for September 24, 2004 (fwd)

2004-09-24 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: HUMAN EVENTS Weekly Wrap-Up for September 24, 2004

HUMAN EVENTS Weekly Wrap-Up
September 24, 2004

--

In Today's Wrap-Up:

- 1. Two Cents: Excuse Me, Mr. Kerry?
- 2. From the Cover: Prosecute the Forger
- 3. Headlines and Highlights from HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE
- 4. The Buzz Cut: Giving Rather His Due. . .Well, Sort Of
- 5. Jihad Watch: The Rape Jihad
- 6. Capital Briefs: Harkin's Hatchet
- 7. Get Your FREE Copy of Ann Coulter's Newest Book
- 8. Political Roundup from Bob Novak and John Gizzi
- 9. From PAGE 3: ...are the allegations true, even though the source of the 
allegations may be a forgery?

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1. Two Cents: Excuse Me, Mr. Kerry?

As I was listening to the news on my way in to work this morning, a few questions I 
would like to ask John Kerry concerning recent events popped into my brain. Here are 
some of them, in no particular order:

--The Washington Times reported today that on CNN's Crossfire in 1997, you stated 
the following: We know we can't count on the French. We know we can't count on the 
Russians. We know that Iraq is a danger to the United States, and we reserve the right 
to take pre-emptive action whenever we feel it's in our national interest. Do you 
still stand by any portion of that statement?

--Why did you skip Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's speech to the joint meeting of 
Congress? Seemed like it might have been a pretty significant speech for a man who 
wants to be President to attend, especially considering the recent liberation of Iraq 
and the fact that he was the first Iraqi leader to visit D.C. since 1952, didn't it?

--Why would you allow your underlings to even hint, much less declare, that the leader 
of a newly freed country is merely a puppet of President Bush?

--You claim you would be able to get more allies to come to our side in future 
conflicts. Do you still believe that, considering your remarks demeaning the support 
given by our allies for Operation Iraqi Freedom and your campaign's treatment of 
Allawi?

--If you can question President Bush's military service, why can't he question yours 
(even though he hasn't)?

--You Democrats get really offended when anyone even appears to question your 
patriotism. Are you prepared to denounce the declaration by one of your fellow 
Democratic Senators, Fritz Hollings, this week that President Bush is a damned draft 
dodger? (And did you find it as strange as I did that any Clinton supporter would use 
such a phrase to try to demean a Republican President?)

--Another Democratic Senator, Tom Harkin, has made public statements calling Bush a 
liar concerning his military service, but the problem is that his claims were based on 
those fake CBS documents. Are you going to ask him to apologize -- or, at the very 
least, to zip it?

--In several newspapers today, your talkative wife, Teresa, was reported to have said 
that she thinks the Bush Administration will announce the capture of Osama bin Laden 
before Election Day. Apparently, she believes the White House has an October Surprise 
in mind. Did you tell her to say that, or did she just get it from Michael Moore?

--On the Regis and Kelly TV show, you told a story of a couple kids contributing to 
your campaign. Did you return that money, since there was a fair chance they were 
illegal contributions? Even if they were legal, your campaign isn't in such dire 
straits that you would take money from children, right?

--Your campaign recently responded to a Bush/Cheney ad accusing you flip-flopping on 
top of a video of you wind-surfing. Your response ad ripped the Bush team for running 
a juvenile ad during the Iraq quagmire. Do you see the irony that your campaign 
offered such a criticism, yet you were the one having photo-ops on your wind-surfing 
board and while walking around wearing spandex -- all of this done during the Iraq 
quagmire?

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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. Fwd: Limiting the Jurisdiction of Federal Courts (fwd)

2004-09-23 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Will Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Will Christensen
Subject: Limiting the Jurisdiction of Federal Courts
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:14:19 -0600

We thank Kent Snyder and the Liberty Committee for this information.

One of the major problems of our day is a run-away Federal Judiciary!   The
Constitution of the United States is very clear on the issue of Congress having
control over which issues the courts may decide and under what conditions a
Federal Judge may retain his/her seat.   See Article III, Section 2, Paragraph 2,
and Article III, Section 1, Paragraph 1 of said Constitution.   Article III of
the Constitution covers only two pages and is very precise on the duty of the
Congress to establish lower courts and regulate both these and the Supreme Court.

H. R. 2028 is an attempt by Congress to re-establish this regulation over the
Federal Courts. The Bill has been cosponsored by over 200 members of
Congress, indicating that most members are in favor of reining in our Federal
Courts.Call or write your Representative telling him/her that you favor
Congress regulating our Federal Courts.   If your Representative has cosponsored
this Bill, congratulations are in order.  If not, perhaps you might ask why he
has not.

The toll free number to the Capitol Switchboard is 877-762-8762.  Ask for your
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Congress will vote today to either affirm or rebuke the notion that federal
judges are the supreme interpreters of the Constitution.  That notion, according
to Thomas Jefferson, is a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would
place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.

Today, the U.S. House will either side with Jefferson, or with activists federal
judges, when H.R. 2028 -- to limit federal court jurisdiction in issues relating
to the Pledge of Allegiance -- comes up for a vote.

The primary issue is whether or not Congress has the authority to limit
jurisdiction of federal courts.  Congressman Steve Chabot, chairman of the House
Subcommittee on the Constitution, stated on September 15, 2004, When the issue
of limiting federal court jurisdiction was raised during the discussions of the
Marriage Protection Act, our subcommittee held a hearing examining Congress's
authority.  Although there was a mixed opinion on whether Congress should
exercise its authority, there was a consensus that Congress did, in fact, have
the authority under Article III of the Constitution to determine what issues were
heard by the Supreme Court under its appellate jurisdiction and by the lower
federal courts.

On July 20, 2004, we supported Congress's authority to limit federal court
jurisdiction over questions arising under the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act so
that the 50 states can determine for themselves whether or not to recognize
same-sex marriage licenses issued by other states.  Likewise, we support allowing
the 50 states to determine for themselves how to decide cases and controversies
involving the Pledge of Allegiance.

Urge your U.S. representative to vote for H.R. 2028.  It's past time to check the
authority of federal judges and to support the authority of the 50 states to
decide for themselves.  As Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated just three
days ago, Judges have no more capacity than the rest of us to determine what is
moral.

To send your message, go to
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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. E-mail all 200 CBS Affiliates with just one click! (fwd)

2004-09-23 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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[CTRL] [JBirch] Another benefit of US UN membership (fwd)

2004-09-22 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] Another benefit of US UN membership

Here is the start of an article that describes the FIRST proposed global tax:
-
French President Jacques Chirac is the latest leader to call for the imposition
of an international tax to help fight poverty.

Speaking at the United Nations in New York, Chirac praised a report prepared by
a French working group that proposed a global tax be levied on arms sales and
some financial transactions.
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[CTRL] [JBirch] WSJ: Why the U.N. has no moral standing (fwd)

2004-09-21 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Subject: [JBirch] WSJ: Why the U.N. has no moral standing

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005644

REVIEW  OUTLOOK
Kofi's Law
Why the U.N. has no moral standing.
Monday, September 20, 2004 12:01 a.m.

Last we checked, U.N. chief Kofi Annan was promising to help the U.S.
rebuild Iraq. But pressed by a BBC interviewer last week, the
Secretary-General stated flat out that the liberation of Iraq was
illegal and a violation of the U.N. Charter. He had already opined
that there should have been a second resolution authorizing the
invasion, and that I hope we do not see another Iraq-type operation
for a long time.

These thoughts could certainly stand a little parsing. Mr. Annan
seems to be saying that the only way force can be used legitimately
in the modern world is with the unanimous permission of the U.N.
Security Council. So perhaps we should remind him of some recent
history.

For example, there was that splendidly legitimate U.N. operation in
Bosnia, where its blue-helmeted peacekeepers watched with
indifference as Serbian soldiers rounded up for slaughter thousands
of Muslim men in the so-called U.N. safe haven of Srebrenica. Or
Rwanda in 1994, where Mr. Annan--then head of the U.N. peacekeeping
office--shrugged off panicked warning calls from the U.N. commander
on the ground, thereby allowing the slaughter of 800,000.

And if liberating Iraq was wrong, Mr. Annan must also believe it was
wrong for NATO to have intervened in Kosovo, where Russia once again
prevented Security Council unanimity. How about the recent French
intervention in the Ivory Coast, which the Security Council got
around to blessing only after it was a fait accompli? And
notwithstanding the latest U.N. promises, what if Gallic and Chinese
oil interests block international action in Sudan, allowing the
continued attacks on Darfurians? It would appear, on this evidence,
that Security Council unanimity isn't exactly the gold standard of
legitimacy, much less of morality.

And what's this business about a second Iraq resolution? U.N.
Resolution 1441 was the 17th resolution demanding that Saddam
verifiably disarm, behave with some modicum of respect for the rights
of his own citizens, and otherwise comply with conditions of the
ceasefire following the end of the 1991 Gulf War. From firing at
American planes patrolling the no-fly zones, to widespread sanctions
busting, to a banned long-range missile program, the Iraqi dictator
was in undeniable breach in March 2003 of the terms under which his
regime was spared back in 1991. In other words, there was never any
legal need for even Resolution 1441.

This is the same Kofi Annan, by the way, who said after saving Saddam
from a U.S. armada in 1998 that You can do a lot with diplomacy, but
with diplomacy backed up by force you can get a lot more done. But
in large part thanks to such diplomatic interventions by Mr. Annan on
Saddam's behalf, by 2003 the dictator apparently believed that this
force was always going to be an illusion. He thought he'd slip the
noose one more time.

The Secretary-General's latest posturing is far from harmless. The
U.N. has been given the lead role in organizing the elections in Iraq
scheduled for January. But Mr. Annan's illegal comments, which have
been replayed across the Arab world, have given an added feeling of
legitimacy to every jihadist hoping to disrupt the vote.

His comments also suggest that Mr. Annan belongs in the same category
as France and Russia in never intending the serious consequences
threatened by Resolution 1441. We wonder: Could the corrupt Oil for
Food program and all the revenues it generated for the U.N. have
anything to do with it?

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[CTRL] William's GOP.com Weekly Trunk (fwd)

2004-09-20 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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THE WEEKLY TRUNK - GOP.COM



William, during a radio interview with Don Imus, Sen. Kerry descended from 
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* From The Archives ...
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They Said It
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He Said It
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* Kerry Descends Into ‘Complete Incoherence' On Iraq
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* DNC Clings To Disintegrating Docu-Drama in Latest Attack on Bush
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* Dems Slip Into ‘Panic' Mode; Kerry Still Listless on Iraq Position
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Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] September 17th a day to remember...... (fwd)

2004-09-18 Thread William Bacon
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anybody agree with thew?




Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:09:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: [ctrl] September 17th a day to remember..



Isn't that the document that is sacred unless you want to discriminate
against gays or make the terminator play Ronald Reagan at the white house?



On 9/17/04 8:06 PM, William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pay No Attention to This Day

 by Harry Browne

 September 17, 2003

 This day isn't important.

 There are far more significant days in the year:


 Labor Day, when we pretend to care about other people's jobs while
 frolicking at the beach.


 Election Day, when we pretend we're making a difference by voting.


 Martin Luther King, Jr. Day and Susan B. Anthony Day, when we pretend to
 be politically correct.


 Memorial Day, when we pretend that we live in a free country because of
 all the people who were killed in the government's senseless wars.


 Flag Day, when we pretend the government is America.


 Veterans Day (formerly Armistice Day, when we pretended that World War I
 made the world safe for democracy).


 National Teachers Day, when we pretend our children are getting an
 education.


 Earth Day, when we pretend that making the government more powerful will
 make the environment cleaner.


 United Nations Day, when we pretend to believe all those inane statements
 about world peace.


 Today doesn't seem to come anywhere near those days in importance.

 You see, today is supposed to be Constitution Day. And no one really
 cares about the Constitution anymore.

 What It Was

 The Constitution was supposed to spell out what government can do and
 what it can't do. The government's few legal functions are listed in
 Article 1, Section 8. It was a revolutionary document, in that no
 government in history had ever had its duties and restrictions so
 carefully defined.

 Despite frequent violations of the Constitution by the government, the
 document did its job reasonably well for the first hundred years - making
 America the freest country in history.

 As late as 1887, when Congress passed a bill providing federal relief to
 drought-stricken Texas farmers, Grover Cleveland vetoed it, saying, I can
 find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution.

 But that was about the last gasp for limited, Constitutional government.
 Because the Constitution wasn't self-enforcing, it depended on the good
 intentions of politicians - something Thomas Jefferson specifically warned
 against in 1798 when he said, In questions of power, then, let no more be
 heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains
 of the Constitution.

 Michael Cloud put it more succinctly in recent years: The problem isn't
 the abuse of power, it's the power to abuse. So long as the politicians
 have the power, they'll abuse it. And the Constitution was intended to
 prevent the politicians from getting the power to abuse.

 The Transformation

 But by the end of the 1800s, too many Americans had lost their fear of
 government and politicians. The introduction of government schools had
 made it almost certain that most children would never learn the importance
 of binding down government with the chains of the Constitution.

 And so government was transformed in the public mind from a
 necessary-but-dangerous evil into the great fiction, through which
 everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else, as Frdric
 Bastiat described it.

 More and more, the Constitution became a political toy, to be tossed
 about, invoked, ignored, or misrepresented - whatever suited a given
 politician's agenda at any given moment.

 The income tax amendment in 1913 hammered the final nail into the coffin
 of limited, constitutional government. Now the politicians had not only
 the authority, but also the unlimited revenue, to do whatever they wanted.
 It seems very, very unlikely, for example, that Americans would have been
 dragged into World War I if the government hadn't had the unlimited
 revenue to finance it.

 Even the Bill of Rights - which eliminates all ambiguity by spelling out
 specific things the government may not do - was relegated to second place
 behind the needs of politicians. By the first World War, the Supreme Court
 had decided that the words Congress shall make no law... don't really
 mean that Congress shall make no law... They mean only that the
 government must have a compelling interest in doing something

[CTRL] sample letter to the editor RE:Nafta's chapter 11

2004-09-18 Thread William Bacon
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To the editor,
The North American Free Trade Agreement's (NAFTA'S) Chapter 11.
The flow of jobs overseas isn't the only consequence of  deliberately
misnamed trade agreements. NAFTA has opened our nation's borders wider
than ever to illegal immigration. and the proposed Free Trade Area of the
Americas (FTAA) would worsen this already huge problem.
The issue that should be of greatest concern, however, is the
continuing loss of our nation's independence because of these agreements.
The April 18th, 2004 New York Times reported on how a NAFTA tribunal
(created under NAFTA's Chapter 11) had been given superiority over our
nation's state and Federal Courts in a dispute involving a Canadian real
estate company. In that same report, former congressman and former Federal
appeals court judge Abner Mikva commented, If Congress had known that
there was anything like this in NAFTA, they never would voted for it.
The FTAA will compromise America's independence just as surely as the
European Union entrapped its member nations. Our leaders shouldn't be
proposing more of these pacts; they should be withdrawing us from pacts
that already unfavorably impact our jobs, borders and national
independence.




Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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[CTRL] sample letter to the editor re:Governemnt a poor safety net

2004-09-18 Thread William Bacon
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To the editor,
Government a Poor safety net.
Some congressmen are boasting how government is providing a safety net for
displaced workers harmed by trade treaties, such as the North American
Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). But extended unemployment benefits and
retraining assistance will be ineffective in a dwindling high paying job
market. The bad news is that the burden of government regulation and out
of control spending has eaten up the productivity gains of American
businesses and forced many to relocate abroad. Our high-tech and basic
industries, as well as broad sectors of manufacturing, are facing
extinction due the high costs of doing business in America.
A study by the National Association of Manufacturers released in
December  of last year (2003) documents that the federal regulatory burden
is the single most important factor behind the exodus of jobs from the
United States (U.S.). Simply put: Many, if not most , American businessmen
who relocate abroad aren't abandoning our nation's free enterprise system.
They're fleeing socialism.
Government programs to help those injured by other  government
programs may be an easy sell politically. But such programs merely
compound the problem without providing real relief. Where do the extended
benefits come from that Congress wants to bestow on the unemployed?
Government has wealth of its own except that which it taxes from its
people. The additional burden imposed on the productive sector to pay for
this government generosity will make it even more difficult for domestic
business to compete. How much better not to create the problem in the
first place! Let's insist  that Congress ratchet down the burden of
government at home  and quit supporting trade agreements that empower
regional regulatory bureaucracies and encourage the relocation of American
businesses abroad.




Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. A couple of quotes worth remembering (fwd)

2004-09-17 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -
ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve
the State.  -- Heinrich Himmler

This year will go down in history.  For the first time, a civilized
nation has full gun registration!  Our streets will be safer, our
police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the
future!   -- Adolph Hitler




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[CTRL] September 17th a day to remember......

2004-09-17 Thread William Bacon
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Pay No Attention to This Day

by Harry Browne

 September 17, 2003

This day isn't important.

 There are far more significant days in the year:


 Labor Day, when we pretend to care about other people's jobs while
frolicking at the beach.


 Election Day, when we pretend we're making a difference by voting.


 Martin Luther King, Jr. Day and Susan B. Anthony Day, when we pretend to
be politically correct.


 Memorial Day, when we pretend that we live in a free country because of
all the people who were killed in the government's senseless wars.


 Flag Day, when we pretend the government is America.


 Veterans Day (formerly Armistice Day, when we pretended that World War I
made the world safe for democracy).


 National Teachers Day, when we pretend our children are getting an
education.


 Earth Day, when we pretend that making the government more powerful will
make the environment cleaner.


 United Nations Day, when we pretend to believe all those inane statements
about world peace.


 Today doesn't seem to come anywhere near those days in importance.

 You see, today is supposed to be Constitution Day. And no one really
cares about the Constitution anymore.

 What It Was

 The Constitution was supposed to spell out what government can do and
what it can't do. The government's few legal functions are listed in
Article 1, Section 8. It was a revolutionary document, in that no
government in history had ever had its duties and restrictions so
carefully defined.

 Despite frequent violations of the Constitution by the government, the
document did its job reasonably well for the first hundred years - making
America the freest country in history.

 As late as 1887, when Congress passed a bill providing federal relief to
drought-stricken Texas farmers, Grover Cleveland vetoed it, saying, I can
find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution.

 But that was about the last gasp for limited, Constitutional government.
Because the Constitution wasn't self-enforcing, it depended on the good
intentions of politicians - something Thomas Jefferson specifically warned
against in 1798 when he said, In questions of power, then, let no more be
heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains
of the Constitution.

 Michael Cloud put it more succinctly in recent years: The problem isn't
the abuse of power, it's the power to abuse. So long as the politicians
have the power, they'll abuse it. And the Constitution was intended to
prevent the politicians from getting the power to abuse.

 The Transformation

But by the end of the 1800s, too many Americans had lost their fear of
government and politicians. The introduction of government schools had
made it almost certain that most children would never learn the importance
of binding down government with the chains of the Constitution.

And so government was transformed in the public mind from a
necessary-but-dangerous evil into the great fiction, through which
everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else, as Frdric
Bastiat described it.

More and more, the Constitution became a political toy, to be tossed
about, invoked, ignored, or misrepresented - whatever suited a given
politician's agenda at any given moment.

The income tax amendment in 1913 hammered the final nail into the coffin
of limited, constitutional government. Now the politicians had not only
the authority, but also the unlimited revenue, to do whatever they wanted.
It seems very, very unlikely, for example, that Americans would have been
dragged into World War I if the government hadn't had the unlimited
revenue to finance it.

Even the Bill of Rights - which eliminates all ambiguity by spelling out
specific things the government may not do - was relegated to second place
behind the needs of politicians. By the first World War, the Supreme Court
had decided that the words Congress shall make no law... don't really
mean that Congress shall make no law... They mean only that the
government must have a compelling interest in doing something. Not
surprisingly, the government employees on the Court almost always decide
that the government does have a compelling interest.

 Where Do We Go from Here?

Those conservatives who still care about the Constitution say that it
should be taught in the schools. As though government employees will
emphasize the original purpose of the Constitution in restraining
government. Instead, they'll give snap quizes on such weighty questions as
How many years in a Senator's term? or Who appoints the Supreme Court
justices?

If the American people are to learn the importance of limited,
Constitutional government, we have to teach them ourselves.

 But people aren't interested in academic lectures on constitutional
government. They're far more interested in their own lives - and rightly
so.

That's why repealing the federal income tax is our best tool. We can offer
them the reward of never paying income tax again in 

[CTRL] OH THIS SUCKS!!! BE SURE TO PASS IT ON (fwd)

2004-09-16 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
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Subject: OH THIS SUCKS!!!  BE SURE TO PASS IT ON

FROM THE NRA FILE ON UNITED STATES SENATORS - http://www.nrapvf.org/Kerry/default.aspx#
John Kerry Wants to Ban Guns in America

Tuesday, August 10, 2004


John Kerry’s 20-year U.S. Senate voting record opposing Second Amendment rights brands 
him as the most anti-gun presidential nominee in U.S. history!

HERE’S PROOF

FACT: Kerry has voted nine times in favor of banning semi-automatic firearms. 1

FACT: Kerry has voted to ban most center-fire rifle ammunition, including the most 
common rounds used by hunters and target shooters.2

FACT: Kerry has voted to close off hundreds of thousands of acres of the California 
Mojave Desert to hunting.3

FACT: Kerry has voted to hold the highly regulated American firearms industry legally 
responsible for the illegal acts of violent criminals.4

FACT: Kerry was one of only 15 Senators to oppose the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act, 
which ended alarming abuses being committed under the 1968 Gun Control Act.5

FACT: Kerry was one of only 29 Senators to vote to prohibit gun manufacturers from 
discharging debts created by the reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities.6


  Cartoon courtesy of Jeff Riffle FACT: Kerry has voted to allow BATF to conduct 
unlimited, warrant-less inspections of FFL holders.7
  FACT: Kerry has voted to criminalize legal sales between private individuals at 
gun shows.8

  FACT: Kerry has voted against increasing mandatory minimum and maximum penalties 
for the illegal transfer or use of a firearm. And yet he has also voted to impose 
penalties of a year in prison and a $10,000 fine on an adult if a juvenile steals a 
firearm from him, and then merely displays it in a public place.9

  FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small firearms dealers out of business, 
which would have impacted both the availability and price of guns, particularly in 
rural areas.10



FACT: Kerry has voted 11 times to force law-abiding citizens to wait to exercise their 
Second Amendment rights. He voted to keep the federal waiting period after the 
National Instant Check System was in place.11

FACT: Kerry voted twice to eliminate the Civilian Marksmanship Program.12

FACT: Kerry wants to silence gun owners’ voice. When NRA sought the same exemption 
from campaign finance rules that news organizations have, Kerry called that effort 
“hijacking America’s airwaves.”13

FACT: Kerry commended the Million Mom March for their march on Washington that 
included calls for gun owner licensing, gun registration and other restrictions on 
law-abiding gun owners.14

FACT: Kerry twice supported legislation that would have mandated the inclusion of 
trigger locks with any handgun sale, forcing individual gun buyers to purchase 
products they did not necessarily want or need.15

FACT: If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. Supreme Court with Dianne 
Feinstein/Chuck Schumer/Ted Kennedy-selected anti-gun activists who believe you have 
no right to own any firearm.

FACT: Senator John Kerry has a 100% voting record with the Brady Campaign (formerly 
Handgun Control Inc.), a national gun-ban group.

DEFEND FIREARMS. DEFEAT KERRY.  VOTE NOVEMBER 2.

For more information on John Kerry, please visit www.nrapvf.org.


1. Vote No. 24, March 2, 2004; Vote No. 295, Aug. 25, 1994; Vote No. 294, Aug. 25, 
1994; Vote No. 293, Aug. 25, 1994; Vote No. 375, Nov. 17, 1993; Vote No. 365, Nov. 9, 
1993; Vote No. 133, June 28, 1990; Vote No. 103, May 23, 1990; Vote No. 102, May 23, 
1990.  2. Vote No. 28, March 2, 2004.

3. Vote No. 87, April 12, 1994.

4. Vote No. 24, March 2, 2004; Vote No. 25, March 2, 2004 (poison pill amendments).

5. Vote No. 142, July 9, 1985.

6. Vote No. 4, Feb. 2, 2000.

7. Vote No. 140, July 9, 1985.

8. Vote No. 134, May 20, 1999; Vote No. 25, March 2, 2004.

9. Vote No. 118, May 14, 1999; Vote No. 224, July 22, 1998.

10. Vote No. 227, July 30, 1993.

11. Vote No. 141, July 9, 1985; Vote No. 115, June 28, 1991; Vote No. 113, June 28, 
1991; Vote No. 278, Nov. 27, 1991; Vote No. 53, Mar. 19, 1992; Vote No. 262, Oct. 2, 
1992; Vote No. 385, Nov. 19, 1993; Vote No. 386, Nov. 19, 1993; Vote No. 387, Nov. 19, 
1993; Vote No. 390, Nov. 19, 1993; Vote No. 394, Nov. 20, 1993.

12. Vote No. 325 Oct. 12, 1993; Vote No. 178, June 27, 1996.

13. Vote No. 64, April 2, 2001.

14. Vote No. 104, May 17, 2000.

15. Vote No. 

[CTRL] Help Us EXPOSE Dan Rather's Bias to America! (fwd)

2004-09-16 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Last week, we told our members how Dan Rather and CBS News have been caught red-handed 
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NOW is the time to turn up the heat. You're on the cutting edge, because you bypass 
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where all they know is what they see on the news and read in the paper?

Don't THEY deserve to know the truth about Dan Rather and CBS News? And don't THEY 
deserve the chance to take action, demanding to know the TRUTH about the bias of Dan 
Rather, and the lies of CBS News?

NOW they can have that chance!

Just like we've done several times before, we're planning to take out *another* 
FULL-PAGE ad in USA Today, NATIONWIDE -- telling the whole country about Dan Rather's 
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As you know, Dan Rather and CBS News used documents (now proven to be forgeries) 
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George W. Bush's National Guard service. Clearly phony, these new documents were 
easily debunked overnight by solid evidence from forensic document experts, 
typographers and retired military officers. One expert counts at least 50 points that 
suggest the documents are forgeries.

For America's sake, such lopsided, incompetent, unprofessional, anything-goes 
reporting must be stopped! Americans nationwide need to demand accountability from 
CBS and other networks.

The full-page ads will direct right-thinking Americans to RightMarch.com, where we've 
made it easy for them to tell CBS to shelve its one-sided alibis! There, they will 
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* Demand the network make full on-air disclosure of all facts, sources and experts to 
accurately report both sides of the story;

* Order CBS producer Mary Mapes, who allegedly obtained the documents, to tell the 
truth and reveal their source instead of refusing to comment;

* Challenge the network to admit the documents are forged;

* Demand CBS air a FULL retraction and apology;

* And call for anchor Dan Rather to be FIRED if his bias against President Bush led to 
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Obviously CBS News did not check the facts, and America has to ask... WHY? Was it due 
to Rather's readily apparent anti-Bush bias that he pushed to air the groundless 
smear? Was the intent to counter President Bush's jump in the polls? And why won't the 
network not take an even-handed, in-depth look at the mounting evidence of fraud?

Glaring omissions marred Rather's weak attempt at a rebuttal last Friday, including 
a pre-show warning by the son of Lt. Colonel Jerry Killian, President Bush's superior 
officer at the Texas Air Guard, that the documents might be forgeries. CBS News failed 
to mention that warning during the segment or in subsequent updates.

To smear the President, Rather is backing a 

[CTRL] sample letter to the editor CAFTA: In the NAFTA mold

2004-09-16 Thread William Bacon
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To the editor:
CAFTA: In the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) mold.
The 10 year record of NAFTA's broken promises is working against the
proponents of a Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA). NAFTA (the
North American Free Trade Agreement linking Mexico, Canada and the United
States (U.S.)) has proven disastrous for America, undermining all of our
basic resource industries, spurring a massive exodus of U.S. manufacturing
plants and jobs, and vastly increasing the influx of illegal aliens into
the U.S.
Proponents of these trade pacts claim that a primary objective is to
negotiate a mutual lowering of tariff barriers that will benefit U.S.
exports. In a December 17, 2003 press release, U.S. Trade representative
Robert Zoellick stated that CAFTA will streamline trade; promote
investment; slash tariffs on goods; remove barriers to trade in
services... But Central America can't provide important markets for
American exports. Alan Tonelson, a Research Fellow at the U.S. Business 
Industry Educational Foundation, put the economies of our CAFTA partners
in perspective.
EL Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica are not
only among the world's poorest countries, they're among its smallest
economies as well. Measured by their ability to buy  U.S. Product, their
combined economic output totaled only $62 Billion, according to the latest
(2002) data. That's less than the output of Orlando Fl. or Bergen County
NJ.
The real export facilitated by CAFTA, as with NAFTA, will be the
relocation of more American Jobs and manufacturing to serve American
Consumers who have not yet lost their livelihoods.





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United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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[CTRL] Sample letter to the editor: The FTAA a Government WPA

2004-09-16 Thread William Bacon
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To the Editor,
A Government Work Progress Adminstration (WPA)
The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported on JUne 2nd that Georgia
congressmen were lobbying to have the headquarters of the Free Trade Area
of The Americas (FTAA) placed in Atlanta, The plum the Georgians are
seeking is an estimated 27,000 jobs and $500 million a year a year to be
generated by the FTAA bureaucracy. But these figures alone should unveil
the lie that the Free Trade Area of the Americas is about encouraging
freedom and promoting free markets. A bureaucracy of 27,000 employees is
needed to administer a regulatory maze, not to permit free trade. Such a
heavy regulation would touch all aspects of life throughout this
hemisphere.
More Socialist bureaucracy will not generate prosperity for anyone.
The FTAA is not a win-win proposition for the peoples of this hemisphere.
It's lose-lose.
Three years ago, the Journal Constitution lent its endorsement to what
Establishment leaders of both parties have been secretly promoting: The
ultimate goal of any White House policy ought to be a North American
economic and political alliance similar in scope and ambition to the
European Union.




Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
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[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] Fw: Fire Dan Rather (fwd)

2004-09-15 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
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[CTRL] sammple letter to the editor The ftaa and open borders

2004-09-14 Thread William Bacon
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To the editor,
FTAA and open borders.
Proponents of the Free Trade Area of the Americas(FTAA) have carefully
avoided any public discussion of how the FTAA will affect our
borders.until the misnamed agreement can be pushed through congress. But
Americans concerned about America's porous borders need to know that the
problem will get much worse if the FTAA is approved.
It will certainly surprise many security-conscious Americans to learn
that some prominent leaders actually support open borders. Only two years
ago, Colorado Republican Representative Tom Trancredo warned; There are
people in the [Bush] administration, and in Mexico, and in Congress, who
believe that we should do away with borders entirely. Their ultimate goal
is to create this hemispheric free trade area consolidating all of North
and South America into some kind of United States of the Americas.
This goal is certainly shared by Mexico's President Vicente Fox. A
couple of months before 9-11, in a July  2nd Wall Street Journal
editorial entitled Open NAFTA Borders? Why Not?, editor Robert L Bartley
plainly stated the Wall Street Journal's shocking support for transforming
the United States into a vassal of a hemispheric superstate modeled after
the European Union. Bartley wrote:
Reformist Mexican President Vicente Fox raises eyebrows with his
suggestion that over a decade or two NAFTA should evolve into something
like the European Union, with open borders for not only goods and
investment but also people. He can rest assured that there is one voice
that supports his vision. to wit, this newspaper...
Indeed, during the immigration debate of 1984 we suggested an
ultimate constitutional amendment: There shall be open borders.
Proponets of open borders will never give the public a chance to vote
on a proposal they know would have no popular support. However,if
concerned Americans do not tell Congress now to reject the FTAA,  they may
soon discover that our elected officials have forfeited control of our
borders through this misnamed regional agreement.






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[CTRL] sample letter to the editor FTAA a huge power grab

2004-09-14 Thread William Bacon
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To The Editor,
FTAA: A Huge Power Grab
The American people are not being told that the proposed Free Trade area
of the Americas(FTAA) is much more than a simple trade pact. The
architects of the FTAA intend that it broaden and deepen The North
American Free trade Agreement (NAFTA). Instead of the U.S., Mexico, and
Canada, which comprise NAFTA, the FTAA would broaden NAFTA by encompassing
all 34 nations of the Western Hemisphere, with  the current exception of
Cuba. It would deepen NAFTA by involving the FTAA in an ever increasing
number of functions that are properly the private domain of national
governments. Even now NAFTA tribunals are claiming the authority, approved
10 years ago by Congress to overturn the decisions of U.S. Courts.
In 1993, Henry Kissinger lobbied for NAFTA by noting that NAFTA is
not a conventional trade agreement, but the architecture of a new
international system.The FTAA would be a further expansion of that
architecture, with a shifting of control of government's functions to
unelected bureaucrats.
The appeal of Free Tradein the name chosen for this latest power
grab is a blatant deception. Trade under the FTAA would be highly
regulated by a socialist bureaucracy, even more so than with NAFTA.
Americans should appeal to their Federal representative and Federal
Senators to reject any agreement to expand NAFTA into an FTAA. Current
plans are to complete hemispheric agreement by JAnuary 2005 and then
present it to Congress. For more information check out the website
www.STOPtheFTAA.org.




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[CTRL] [JBirch] CBS falls for Kerry campaign's fake memo (fwd)

2004-09-13 Thread William Bacon
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Media lies. Gun Owners are no stranger to it.

Sincerely,

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CBS falls for Kerry campaign's fake memo
http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn12.html

September 12, 2004

BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

A few weeks ago, Thomas Oliphant of the Boston Globe was on PBS'
''Newshour'' explaining why the hundreds of swift boat veterans'
allegations against John Kerry's conduct in Vietnam was unworthy of his
attention. The standard of clear and convincing evidence, he said,
talking to Swiftvet John O'Neill as if he were a backward fourth-grader,
''is what keeps this story in the tabloids -- because it does not meet
basic standards.''

Last week, we got a good idea of what Thomas Oliphant's ''basic
standards'' are. Dan Rather and the elderly gentlemen at ''60 Minutes''
were all atwitter because they'd come into possession of some hitherto
undiscovered memos relating to whether George W. Bush failed to show up
for his physical in the War of 1812. The media had been flogging this
dead horse all spring, but these newly ''discovered'' memos had
jump-started the old nag just enough to get him on his knees long enough
for the media to flog him all over again.

Unfortunately for CBS, Dan Rather's hairdresser sucks up so much of the
budget that there was nothing left for any fact-checking, so the ''60
Minutes'' crew rushed on air with a damning National Guard memo
conveniently called ''CYA'' that Bush's commanding officer had written to
himself 32 years ago. ''This was too hot not to push,'' one producer told
the American Spectator. Hundreds of living Swiftvets who've signed
affidavits and are prepared to testify on camera -- that's way too cold
to push; we'd want to fact-check that one thoroughly, till, say, midway
through John Kerry's second term. But a handful of memos by one dead guy
slipped to us by a Kerry campaign operative -- that meets ''basic
standards'' and we gotta get it out there right away.

The only problem was the memo. Amazingly, this guy at the Air National
Guard base, Lt. Col. Killian, had the only typewriter in Texas in 1973
using a prototype version of the default letter writing program of
Microsoft Word, complete with the tiny little superscript thingy that
automatically changes July 4th to July 4th. To do that on most 1973
typewriters, you had to unscrew the keys, grab a hammer and give them a
couple of thwacks to make the ''t'' and ''h'' squish up all tiny, and
even think it looked a bit wonky. You'd think having such a unique
typewriter Killian would have used a less easily traceable model for his
devastating ''CYA'' memo. Also, he might have chosen a font other than
Times New Roman, designed for the Times of London in the 1930s and not
licensed to Microsoft by Rupert Murdoch (the Times' owner) until the
1980s.

Killian is no longer around to confirm his extraordinary Magic
Typewriter, but his son denied the stuff was written by his dad, and his
widow said her late husband never typed. So, on the one hand, we have
hundreds of living veterans with chapter and verse on Kerry's fantasy
Christmas in Cambodia, and, on the other hand, we have a guy who's been
dead 20 years but is still capable of operating Windows XP. It took the
savvy chappies at the Powerline Web site and Charles Johnson of ''Little
Green Footballs'' about 20 minutes to spot the eerily 2004 look of the
1972 memo, and various Internet wallahs spent the rest of the day
tracking down the country's leading typewriter identification experts.

Bombarded with accusations that CBS had fallen for an obvious hoax, Dan
turned to his trusty Smith-Corona and bashed out a few e-mails: ''For the
umpteenth time,'' he said angrily, ''this is the kind of sleaze I had to
put up with when they scoffed at 'What's the frequency, Kenneth?' 

Are Dan Rather and ''60 Minutes'' a bunch of patsies suckered by the
Kerry campaign? Not exactly. According to the American Spectator, ''The
CBS producer said that some alarm bells went off last week when the
signatures and initials of Killian on the documents in hand did not match
up with other documents available on the public record, but producers
chose to move ahead with the story.''

Hey, why not? 

[CTRL] [JBirch] Kerry hypocrisy (fwd)

2004-09-10 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Subject: [JBirch] Kerry hypocrisy

John Kerry is desperately trying to avoid the mistake Al Gore made in 2000 by
going out of his way to show gun owners that he's their friend and not an
enemy. Thus the photo of Sen. Kerry proudly holding up a Remington shotgun at a
campaign stop in West Virginia this week.

But as John Fund of Political Diary points out, this photo-op is likely to come
back and bite Kerry on the butt. See...that gun is one of the guns which would
be banned as an assault weapon by a bill being co-sponsored by...Sen. Kerry.


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[CTRL] Media Assault on Bush Collapses in Credibility Meltdown (fwd)

2004-09-10 Thread William Bacon
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[CTRL] 04-36 Digest (fwd)

2004-09-10 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Top of the fold -- Jihadistan: A clear and present danger...

Thousands of events will recognize the third anniversary of the 11
September 2001 terrorist attacks on our nation by Islamist Jihadis. Most
of these events are reflective -- appropriate vigils in schools and
churches to remember 2,864 innocent non-combatant men, women and children
-- our countrymen -- who were slaughtered on that Tuesday morning by 19
al-Qa'ida terrorists.

Amid the solemn vigils, the Leftmedia will highlight planned protests
that deposing Saddam Hussein was wrong and that the liberation of Iraq
will motivate more terrorism than it blocked.

Those protests are wrong -- dead wrong.

Eleven years ago, our homeland became the front line in our war with
Jihadistan, that borderless nation of Islamofascists with global reach,
inhabited by al-Qa'ida and other Islamist Jihadis targeting the U.S.
Their first assault on U.S. soil -- Sheik Ramzi Yousef's bombing of the
WTC's north tower, 26 February 1993, was the opening salvo in our
asymmetric war with this insidious enemy. But that campaign wouldn't get
under way in earnest until their second attack some eight years later, a
far more sophisticated and deadly attack that used commercial airliners
as missiles to destroy both WTC towers, in addition to scoring a direct
hit on the Pentagon.

On that day, a brave group of passengers on UAL Flight 93 became the
first Americans to confront al-Qa'ida Jihadis directly. Let's roll,
said a resolute Todd Beamer as he rallied his fellow Patriots to storm
the cockpit and thwart a fourth attack -- likely on the Capitol -- at the
cost of their own lives.

The events of 9/11 necessitated a national-security policy shift from
containment to preemption -- the most significant policy change since
WWII. On 11 September 2001, President Bush told the nation -- and the
world, We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed
these acts and those who harbor them. Two weeks later, he said, This
war on terrorism will be fought on a number of fronts, in different ways.
The front lines will look different from the wars of the past.

President Bush made clear that our campaign against terror defies any
diplomatic resolution, and that Jihadistan can only be defeated in
offensive, preemptive strikes.

Three weeks after the 9/11 attack, American Armed Forces, under the able
leadership of their Commander in Chief, took the fight to the enemy,
effectively moving the warfront with Jihadistan from U.S. soil to the
heart of the Middle East -- Afghanistan and Iraq. It should be noted that
American forces and our allies are not, first and foremost, fighting for
Iraq's freedom. They are fighting for critical U.S. national-security
interests and those of the free world, which was at great peril as long
as Saddam remained in power. Most important, they are endeavoring to keep
the battle on Jihadi turf, not ours.

In the last three years, other nations, from Indonesia to Kenya to Spain,
have suffered severe blows at the blood-soaked hands of Jihadi
terrorists. And this past weekend, we were reminded of the unfettered
depravity of Islamist terrorism as nearly 400 Russians -- MOST OF THEM
CHILDREN! -- were murdered in a Beslan school, bringing the toll to more
than 500 Russian innocents killed by terrorists in the last two weeks.
Inevitably, these most recent acts of barbarism bitterly evoked our own
sense of loss after 9/11 -- the anguish on the faces of parents as they
carried the still bodies of their children, and the blank stares of those
learning that their loved ones 

[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS SAY GUN BAN TO EXPIRE (fwd)

2004-09-09 Thread William Bacon
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Hooray!!




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United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Subject: C.R.E.S.T. CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS SAY GUN BAN TO EXPIRE

CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS SAY GUN BAN TO EXPIRE

Direct link to the rest of this Reuters news article posted here:
www.geocities.com/swingvoters

...
Asked why Congress wanted to legalize the military-style weapons again
when
public opinion polls found broad public support for keeping them illegal,
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, a Texas Republican said, We don't do
things by polls.
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DeLay said, If the president asked me, it'd still be no.. It will expire
Monday, and that's that.
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[CTRL] Brace Yourselves (fwd)

2004-09-08 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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appeals doesn't want you to say.
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:05:14 -0400
From: Ed Gillespie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Brace Yourselves

September 8, 2004

To: Bush-Cheney '04 Grassroots Team
From: Ed Gillespie, Republican National Committee Chairman
Subject: Brace Yourselves

In response to President Bush's Agenda for America's Future and a critique of his 
policies and Senate record, Senator Kerry's campaign is implementing a strategy of 
vicious personal attacks against the President and Vice President.

The campaign is bringing in a bevy of former Clinton henchmen, including CNN 
commentators James Carville and Paul Begala. In August alone, Begala called President 
Bush a gutless wonder, said he has a lack of intelligence, and called Vice 
President Cheney a dirt bag. Carville said the President is ignorant big time and 
said George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are a couple of nobodies.

It's not like Bob Shrum needed encouragement to engage in personal attacks. At a Kerry 
rally Friday morning in Ohio, campaign surrogate John Glenn compared the Republican 
Convention to a Nazi rally, and Kerry called the President unfit to lead our nation 
and once again sought to divide the country by who served and how 35 years ago.

Of course, the President was called a cheap thug, a killer and a liar at a 
Kerry-Edwards campaign event in New York, Mrs. Kerry has called the President's 
policies unpatriotic and immoral and DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe falsely accused 
the President of being AWOL.

Democratic strategist Susan Estrich outlined the strategy last Wednesday in a column 
warning Republicans to watch out. I'm not promising pretty, she wrote before going 
on to call President Bush and Vice President Cheney alcoholics, then ask is any 
alcoholic ever really cured? (I can see the ad now.) She deems the President's 
service as a National Guard fighter pilot draft dodging, and says, a forthcoming 
book by Kitty Kelly raises questions about whether the President has practiced what he 
preaches on the issue of abortion. (Interestingly, the New York Daily News reported 
back in February that the Kerry campaign intended to spread such a rumor in pro-life 
chat rooms late in the campaign.)

So the former Dukakis campaign manager has an advance copy of Democrat donor Kitty 
Kelly's book, which promises to throw unsubstantiated gossip at President Bush in the 
same way she falsely maligned the late President Reagan as a date rapist who paid for 
a girlfriend's abortion and wrongly castigated Nancy Reagan as an adulterer who had an 
affair with Frank Sinatra. A recent story says Kelly's book alleges President Bush 
used cocaine at Camp David while his father was President, which is as credible as her 
story that then Governor and Nancy Reagan smoked marijuana with Jack Benny and George 
and Gracie Burns.

And tonight on CBS, longtime Democratic operative Ben Barnes-a friend of, major 
contributor to and Nantucket neighbor of Senator Kerry's and vice chair of the Kerry 
Campaign--will repudiate his statement under oath that he had no contact with the Bush 
family concerning the President's National Guard service. (Anyone surprised that 
Barnes would contradict a statement he made under oath probably doesn't know his long 
history of political scandal and financial misdealings.)

So brace yourselves. Any mention of John Kerry's votes for higher taxes and against 
vital weapons programs will be met with the worst kind of personal attacks. Such 
desperation is unbecoming of American Presidential politics, and Senator Kerry will 
pay a price for it at the polls as we stay focused on policies to continue growing our 
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[CTRL] The REAL John Kerry website... (fwd)

2004-09-07 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Subject: The REAL John Kerry website...

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[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] I AM JOHN KERRY (fwd)

2004-09-06 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 13:55:02 -0700
From: auburnarn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [TheEagle-L] I AM JOHN KERRY

Vote for me

I am John Kerry.

I was against the first Iraq war.

I am against the second Iraq war, but I voted for it.

Now I'm against it but I was for it.

I support the UN.

I'm against terrorism and against the Iraq war. But I voted for

the Iraq war.

So, I voted against the first war and supported the second war,

wait...

I'm against gay marriage but for gay unions.

I support gays but think the SF mayor is wrong.

I support gay marriages.

No, wait,

gay unions.

I'm Catholic. Wait, I'm Jewish. My dad was Jewish.

But I was raised Catholic. What am I? I don't want to confuse

people.

I am for abortions, but wait, I'm Catholic, and Catholics are

pro-life.

But I might consider putting pro-life judges in office, but I'm

not sure.

I do know I voted for a pro-life judge, but I stated that it was

a mistake.

I went to Vietnam. But I was against Vietnam.

I testified against fellow US troops in Vietnam, threw my medals

away and led others to do the same.

But I am a war hero. Against the war.

I stated I threw my medals away then I threw my ribbons away.

I then revealed that I threw my ribbons away but not my medals,

then lately I stated that I threw someone else's medals away and

never threw anything of mine away.

I believe Ribbons and medals aren't the same thing.

Medals come with ribbons, so now I believe that ribbons and

medals are the same thing

besides the fact that ribbons are cloth and medals are medal.

I wrote a book that pictured the US flag upside-down on its

cover.

But now I fly and campaign in a plane with a large flag

right-side up on it.

But sometimes, we fly upside-down for fun.

Yasser Arafat is a hero and a statesman.

The Israelis shouldn't kill Palestinian terrorists, but they

should stop terrorism.

Yasser Arafat is a terrorist supporter.

I support Mideast peace.

I am for the common man, unlike Bush.

I am against the rich.

But my family is worth 300 million dollars has a jet and many

SUVs.

I am the common man.

I am against sending jobs overseas.

My wife is a Heinz heir, which Heinz has most factories offshore.

I am against rewarding companies for exporting jobs as long as it

is not Heinz.

I own $1 million in Wal-Mart stock.

I believe Wal-Mart is evil by driving small business owners out

of town.

I am a capitalist and I own part of Wal-Mart but I am a good guy

for small corporate America.

I own SUVs when I talk to my followers in Detroit, MI,

Teresa owns SUVs, I don't, when I talk to tree hugging followers.

I have a campaign jet that gets 1/3 mpg, which is great fuel

efficiency.

I am against making military service an issue in presidential

elections.

I defended draft dodger Clinton and stated that all serve in

their own capacity whether they draft dodge or not.

Did I mention, I served in Vietnam and am a hero?

Are you questioning my patriotism?

I served in Vietnam.

My opponent didn't.

I have three purple hearts!

I am a hero.

I am qualified to run this country since I served.

I am John Kerry.






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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. Fw: Denzel Washington (fwd)

2004-09-05 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat,  4 Sep 2004 21:35:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject: C.R.E.S.T. Fw: Denzel Washington


© 2004 Rich Martin
Permission to repost in full, or in part, is granted.
In other words, please forward to a friend or list.
Fw: Denzel Washington


A Hollywood star who does not buy Michael Moore's bullshit? Amazing, and worth passing 
on. This guy really does have huevos!

- Original Message -
From: Carolee Kirkeby
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:21 PM
Subject: Fw: Denzel Washington



Subject: Denzel Washington





Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: Interesting stuff

Did you see the Denzel Washington interview with Katie Couric on NBC last Friday 
morning (13 August 2004)? Not many people are talking about it. They are wishing it 
would go away and are trying to sweep it under the rug. This was forwarded to me. S.



Meryl Streep and Denzel were on the today show live with Katie Couric to talk about 
the movie Manchurian Candidate.

At one point Katie asked Denzel, Have you seen Fahrenheit 9/11? To which Denzel 
replied, No, and I have no intentions of seeing it. Katie and Meryl were so 
noticeably taken aback! It was cool!

Then, a discourse (or more accurately, a fight!) began between all three of them with 
Denzel being barraged with all kinds of anti-Bush, anti-Republican comments, but the 
man stood his ground and soon enraged the women so much that they couldn't get a 
word in edgewise. Meryl Streep turned blood red and she sat with her legs crossed and 
her one leg shaking up and down, fuming! Then Katie uttered the words that put the 
final nail in her coffin, she said to Denzel you see, that's the problem I have with 
you people.

She of course did not get to finish her sentence because Denzel pounced on her 
verbally by responding YOU PEOPLE! YOU PEOPLE! Just what do you mean you people! Do 
you mean You People as in me as a Christian, or do you mean You People as in me 
as a REPUBLICAN? She then tap danced her way through the next minute of the show. But 
Denzel went out fighting and declaring that Fahrenheit 9/11 is nothing but propaganda 
and lies distorted to support a cynical democratic film director's views.

There's a celebrity that deserves to wear the uniform in movies and I don't mind at 
all.

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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. True Republicans liberate Labor Day (fwd)

2004-09-05 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:37:54 -0400
From: rex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: C.R.E.S.T. True Republicans liberate Labor Day

 On Labor Day, workers should join true republicans to end socialism,
the social security scam and socialist slave numbers.  Workers have the
right to keep their wages.

Many people have publicly burned their socialist slave cards, just as
draft cards used to be burned. http://members.ij.net/rex/ssnburn.html

Others wear libertarian T-shirts that scream My Socialist Slave
Number
is my social security number!  http://members.ij.net/rex/SSNall.html

Socialism has often duped workers.  Workers were among the millions
slaughtered in the socialist trio of atrocities: the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics killed 62 million; The Peoples' Republic of China
killed
35 million; the National Socialist German Workers' Party killed 21
million.
The worst atrocities were all committed in the name of labor and
workers.  http://members.ij.net/rex/socialists.html

In the U.S.A., a National Socialist (Francis Bellamy) praised labor
when
he created the straight-armed salute that was later adopted by the
National
Socialist German Workers Party.  It was the original salute for the
pledge
of allegiance to the U.S. flag, to be used to create an industrial army
of
workers (Bellamy's term), patterned explicitly after the military.
http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge1.html

Social security began in 1935, when U.S. politicians began adopting
the
similar schemes of the National Socialist German Workers Party.
http://members.ij.net/rex/ssnswastika.html

Under socialism, every worker is numbered, tracked and taxed from
cradle
to grave.  It steals from the neediest workers and gives to wealthy
non-workers. It is leading to another police state.

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[CTRL] =?x-unknown?q?Re=3A_=5BJBirch=5D_Here_comes_the_U=2EN=2E_=AD?==?x-unknown?q?_again!_=28fwd=29?=

2004-09-03 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 05:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBirch] Here comes the U.N. ­ again!


--- Paul Blumstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40184



 Saturday, August 28, 2004


 Here comes the U.N. ­ again!


I wrote an email to Mr. Lamb telling him that
organized opposition already exists with the John
Birch Society. I have found that he and other writers
on WND like to write about the problem of the UN
without ever suggesting that readers support HR 1146
(or similiar legislation). In fact, many times, they
don't recommend or suggest anything at all!

They seem to be part of the hand ringer group: Look
how terrible this is. Let's learn about it some more
and do nothing!

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[CTRL] [JBirch] We're making some progress here! (fwd)

2004-09-03 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Subject: [JBirch] We're making some progress here!


How about this one...from a liberal paper:

GOP to UN: Drop Dead
The Nation - USA

Not since the convention that nominated Barry Goldwater in 1964 has a
gathering of the Republican faithful featured so much UN bashing from so
many prominent players in the party. What once was the extremist line of
John Birch Society cadres and their allies -- Get US out of the UN, read
the society's billboards in the 1960s -- has become a popular position
within the Republican party.

http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1pid=1778


Let's keep up the educational effort!

Andy



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[CTRL] [JBirch] WTO OKs Trade Sanctions Against U.S. (fwd)

2004-09-01 Thread William Bacon
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Yet another reason to be against the FTAA(Free Trade area of the
americas)





Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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appeals doesn't want you to say.
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Subject: [JBirch] WTO OKs Trade Sanctions Against U.S.

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/424572|top|08-31-2004::16:08|reuters.html

WTO OKs Trade Sanctions Against U.S.
  Aug 31, 3:52 PM (ET)
By Richard Waddington

GENEVA (Reuters) - The European Union and its allies got the go-ahead
on Tuesday to impose some $150 million in sanctions on U.S. goods in
a dispute that could stir trade tensions ahead of the U.S. elections.

World Trade Organization (WTO) arbitrators backed the EU and seven
other WTO members' demand to punish U.S. failure to revoke an
anti-dumping law -- the so-called Byrd amendment -- repeatedly
declared illegal by the Geneva-based body.

EU Trade Commissioner Pascal Lamy in Brussels urged Washington to
repeal the controversial law. I hope the U.S. will now take action
to remove this measure, thus avoiding the risk of sanctions, he said.

In Washington, a spokesman for U.S. Trade Representative Robert
Zoellick repeated a long-standing pledge to work closely with
Congress in order to comply with WTO rules.

The U.S. administration has urged Congress to drop the measure, which
passes on anti-dumping levies to U.S. firms, but the law enjoys
strong backing from legislators who see it as helping struggling
industries.

The United States remains committed to resolving this issue in a way
that promotes the competitiveness of American workers, said
spokesman Christopher Padilla.

The arbitrators, in a ruling running to more than 60 pages, set no
amount for retaliation, but laid down a formula which complainant
countries could use to fix punitive duties.

The disputed law, named after Democratic Senator Robert Byrd of West
Virginia, forces the government to distribute to U.S. companies money
raised in anti-dumping duties levied on foreign firms.

HIT BACK

The European Union, Japan, Canada, Brazil, India, Mexico, Chile and
South Korea argued successfully at the WTO that those payments, to
U.S. ball bearing, steel, candle, pasta, seafood and other companies,
amounted to an illegal subsidy.

They had asked for sanctions for the same amount as U.S. firms
receive, but arbitrators set the figure at 72 percent.

The decision confirms that the U.S. position was wrong, the
coordinator-general of trade disputes at Brazil's Foreign Ministry,
Roberto Carvalho de Azevedo, told Reuters. It (the decision) avoids
a domino effect, as various countries were threatening to adopt
similar measures (to Byrd).

Washington argued no direct damage to competitor firms could be
proven and that sanctions were unwarranted.

Based on disbursements under the amendment in 2003, the EU said
current sanctions could amount to $150 million for the eight members.
But the figure looks set to rise in coming years if Congress digs in
its heels.

Japan would be a big beneficiary, with its companies picking up some
two-thirds of the anti-dumping levies imposed by the United States so
far this year, according to trade officials.

The spat is one of a series involving the administration of President
Bush, an avowed free-trader accused by critics of being reluctant
to bow to WTO rules when they go against the United States.

The disputes have led to rumblings in Congress that the WTO is
overstepping its authority.

A Senate aide, who asked not to be identified, said there was no
way Congress would simply repeal the amendment.

I think it's going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to do
anything this year given the tight legislative calendar ahead of the
November elections, he added.

However, diplomats said the EU would be in no hurry to impose
sanctions, which are a double-edged weapon that can also hurt
exporting firms.

The legal victory has been won and the preference would be that the
U.S. would simply see that there's nowhere to go on this ... (and)
withdraw the law, said one diplomat in Brussels.

(Additional reporting by John Chalmers in Brussels, Doug Palmer in
Washington and Guido Nejamkis in Brasilia)

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[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] Fw: Secret FBI Documents Reveal Kerry Accepted Laundered Contributions (fwd)

2004-09-01 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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appeals doesn't want you to say.
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Laundered  Contributions

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Subject: Secret FBI Documents Reveal Kerry Accepted Laundered Contributions



Sen. John Kerry in Hanoi, seated under a bust of Communist Vietnam's deceased leader, 
Ho Chi Minh

Source:
Judicial Watch
http://www.judicialwatch.org/

Secret FBI Documents Reveal Kerry Accepted Laundered Contributions
Senator Also May Have Set Up Meetings Between Chinese Firms, U.S. Officials
http://www.judicialwatch.org/3800.shtml

(WASHINGTON, D.C.) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and 
prosecutes government corruption, today released recently declassified documents 
showing that Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry accepted laundered 
contributions for his 1996 re-election campaign from the Communist Chinese government 
and that, in exchange, he may have arranged meetings between Chinese aerospace 
executives and U.S. government officials.

Obtained from the FBI through Freedom of Information Act and Privacy Act requests, the 
documents are related to the FBI's Chinagate investigation into the Clinton 
campaign's acceptance of contributions from Communist Chinese government sources.  
Among the documents released is an investigative outline dated March 27, 1998, that 
details the FBI's proposed areas of inquiry into the actions of Democratic 
fund-raiser Johnny Chung, including questioning him about meetings Sen. Kerry set up 
with China Aerospace executives and about a fund-raising event for the senator in Los 
Angeles.  The other document, dated Aug. 24, 1998, requests a polygraph of Chung, 
mentioning that he laundered contributions for the Clinton/Gore '96 election campaign 
and for Sen. Kerry.  The documents are heavily redacted, and Judicial Watch is 
appealing the FBI's decision to keep secret portions of the documents.

Chung pled guilty in March 1998 to election law violations and, in a plea bargain, 
began cooperating with the FBI.  Judicial Watch represents Chung in a lawsuit against 
Justice Department officials who, during the Clinton administration, leaked 
information about Chung's cooperation with the department's Campaign Finance Task 
Force.  The unauthorized and illegal release from a sealed plea agreement of 
information, including the fact that he and his family were in protective custody in 
California, put the lives of Chung and his family in jeopardy.

These disturbing FBI documents raise further questions about Sen. Kerry's involvement 
in what looks like a quid pro quo (cash for meetings) with the Communist Chinese, 
said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

To view the documents see the links below (Adobe Acrobat Reader Required):

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Document 1
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2004/chungkerry1.pdf

Document 2
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2004/chungkerry2.pdf

Also see:
Chinese Kerry Out: John Kerry's Private Trade Trip to Beijing
http://tinyurl.com/7263m

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[CTRL] [JBirch] The Communist Party of America for Kerry (fwd)

2004-08-31 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:32:17 -0700
From: Paul Blumstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [JBirch] The Communist Party of America for Kerry

The Communist Party of America--

We aren't running a candidate for president this year simply because
John Kerry embodies much of what we believe and wish to accomplish
for this country. Also, the reality is that if Bush is going to be
defeated this year, it will be by Kerry, and it is crucial that we
beat Bush. Bush is a ruling class candidate and there are
significant differences between him and Kerry-for example, You will not
hear John Kerry invoke the name of God which we find repulsive. Countries
in the Middle-East are terrified of Bush and his so-called war on
terrorism. We trust Kerry will not pursue war there and exit Iraq and
Afghanistan as quickly as possible. Cuba is worried that if Bush is
re-elected, Bush will invade Cuba.

For example, Kerry has pledged to sign a bill legalizing card-check
union elections, which would result in the organization of many
million more workers into the labor movement. While we disagree with
some of Kerry's positions, we aren't indifferent to the differences
between the Republican and Democratic positions and policies.
Republicans completely disagree with our agenda and the Democrats
mostly agree. Also it may interest you to know that Kerry has been
endorsed by virtually all of the communist world to include Cuba,
China and Vietnam.

We aren't running national candidates this year for several reasons:

1. Our focus on the defeat (or re-defeat) of Bush. This is the
critical task facing our country.

2. Since we are a small party, we don't want to dissipate our efforts.

3. Over the past decades, many state legislatures have made it more
difficult to get candidates on the ballot-by requiring huge numbers
of voter's signatures, by requiring that anyone who signs a petition
to place a minor party candidate on the ballot is thereby
ineligible to vote in a major party primary, or requiring signatures
from all counties in a state. The requirements vary from state to
state, but these requirements constitute a significant barrier to
ballot access, and consume huge resources just to get on the ballot
in most states.

Thanks for your interest, and I hope this response clarifies our
position. Peace and Socialism,

Marc Brodine, Chairman
Communist Party
USA National Office
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[CTRL] [JBirch] Ron Paul: A Texas Platform for the GOP (fwd)

2004-08-31 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:50:11 -0700
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Subject: [JBirch] Ron Paul: A Texas Platform for the GOP

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2004/tst083004.htm

Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk
A Texas Platform for the GOP
8/30/2004

As the 2004 national GOP convention begins Monday, we should be
prepared to hear a Republican agenda that sounds more like FDR or
Woodrow Wilson than Barry Goldwater or Ronald Reagan.  A party that
once defined itself by the fundamental conservative principle that
government power should be used sparingly and judiciously, now
supports a program of bigger government at home, more militarism
abroad, and less respect for constitutional freedoms.  An examination
of the Texas state GOP platform reveals just how far the national
Republican party has strayed from true conservative principles and
the ideal of limited constitutional government.

First and foremost, the Texas GOP is serious about reducing the size
and scope of government. The party platform calls for strict
congressional adherence to the 10th amendment, and the abolition of
all federal agencies not authorized under a strict interpretation of
the Constitution. It urges a return to truly republican government,
based on limited federal powers and states rights. The language of
the platform is refreshingly frank, with quotes like We believe that
government spending is out of control and needs to be reduced and
We respect our Founders' intent to restrict the power of the federal
government over the states and the people. In fact, whole sections
of the document are devoted to worthy subjects like Limiting the
expanse of government power. Contrast these words with what you'll
hear this week from the big spending, big government Republicans from
Washington.

The Texas party platform is similarly bold when it comes to
terrorism, civil liberties, and privacy.  Rather than promoting the
current mantra that security is our ultimate goal, the platform
reminds us that liberty is our most important value.  The platform
calls for repealing portions of the Patriot Act, calls for less
information gathering by government, opposes property seizures
without due process, and opposes the creation of a national ID card.
The platform asserts that A perpetual state of national emergency
allows unrestricted growth of government,² and We believe the
current greatest threat to our individual liberties is overreaching
government controls established under the guise of preventing
terrorism.²  You won¹t hear this kind of language at the national
Republican convention.

The Texas GOP platform also calls for a congressional audit of the
Federal Reserve Bank, and demands full public access to the written
minutes from Fed board meetings.  Such an audit could at the very
least serve to educate the American people about Fed inflation and
the dangers of fiat currency.  In Washington, the Federal Reserve
system is virtually never discussed by Congress or the
administration, despite its enormous impact on our economic
well-being. Monetary policy is simply off the table as a political
and policy matter for both national parties, but the Texas GOP
recognizes the importance of sound money.

When it comes to 2nd amendment rights, the Texas GOP platform is
uncompromising. It calls for outright abolition of the Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. It also calls for repeal of all laws
infringing upon 2nd amendment rights.  This is another example of
grassroots conservatives in Texas taking a position that Republicans
in Washington lack the courage to endorse.

Education?  The Texas GOP platform calls for the abolition of the
Department of Education.  Taxes?  Texas Republicans urge the repeal
of the 16th amendment and the abolition of the IRS, an agency the
platform says is ³Unacceptable to taxpayers.²  On dozens of other
issues, from abortion to activist judges to religious freedom, the
Texas Republican party promotes true conservative values and strict
adherence to the Constitution.  Real conservatives should demand the
same from the national Republican Party this week in New York.





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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. The Declaration of Independence (fwd)

2004-08-31 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
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Subject: C.R.E.S.T. The Declaration of Independence

The Declaration of Independence



--
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in U.S. history, is a document proclaiming the independence of the 13
British colonies in America, adopted by the Continental Congress on
July 4, 1776. The declaration embodied concepts from the Magna Carta
and recounted the grievances of the colonies against the British
crown. The declaration declared the colonies to be free and
independent states. The proclamation of independence marked the
culmination of a political process that had begun as a protest
against oppressive restrictions imposed by the mother country on
colonial trade, manufacturing, and political liberty and had
developed into a revolutionary struggle resulting in the
establishment of a new nation.

After the U.S. was established, the statement of grievances in the
declaration ceased to have any but historic significance. The
political philosophy enunciated in the declaration, however, had a
continuing influence on political developments in America and Europe
for many years. It served as a source of authority for the Bill of
Rights of the U.S. Constitution. Its influence is manifest in the
Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, adopted by the
National Assembly of France in 1789, during the French Revolution. In
the 19th century, various peoples of Europe and of Latin America
fighting for freedom incorporated in their programs the principles
formulated in the Declaration of Independence.

The procedure by which the Declaration of Independence came into
being was as follows: On June 7, 1776, Richard Henry Lee, in the name
of the Virginia delegates to the Continental Congress, moved
that these united colonies are and of right ought to be free and
independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the
British crown, and that all political connection between them and the
State of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved. This
motion was seconded by John Adams of Massachusetts, but action
thereon was deferred until July 1, and in Congress July 4, 1776.



--
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--
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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate
and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God
entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires
that they should declare the causes which impel them to the
separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the
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He has refused his Assent to Laws, the 

Re: [CTRL] [JBirch] Beware of reaching a facilitated consensus (fwd)

2004-08-27 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:54:37 PDT
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBirch] Beware of reaching a facilitated consensus

Its called the Delphi Technique.  google for that.

CWSIV

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Marv Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
   
Here is an excerpt from an article that tells why:
--
It is quite remarkable, but sad, to observe how easily people of all
ages,
occupations, intellect and description fall into line when they take
part in
facilitated discussions. They respond to the attention they are
receiving with
perfect trust. They truly believe their opinions are valued. They
truly believe
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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. Foreign inspectors WILL monitor US elections...AGAIN! (fwd)

2004-08-26 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:36:04 -
From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: C.R.E.S.T. Foreign inspectors WILL monitor US elections...AGAIN!

FURTHER EROSION OF SOVEREIGNTY IN THE U.S.

I have in my possession a copy of a letter from U.S. Dept of State,
Paul V. Kelly, Asst Scty, Legislative Affairs that confirms foreign
inspectors monitored elections in the U.S. in 2002 and are set to
monitor the Presidential election in Nov.

I'm not sure if it will attach to this post, if not and you want to
see it send me a request at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll forward
the copy to you.

Upon reading the letter from the U.S. State Dept, to Congresswoman
Johnson of Texas (below) dated 30 July, 04, more and more questions
are raised about the Monitoring of our elections.

First, the letter indicated to me that our elections were also
monitored in the Nov, 02 General election by this organization OSCE.

I must add, very few Americans knew their elections were being
monitored by foreign countries.

Secondly, It also indicates that the U. S. Agreed to this arrangement
in 1990 in Copenhagen, Denmark.

This would have been during the First Bush (#41) Administration.
Right?? Who was Sec. of State at the time??

Thirdly, Did Congress AUTHORIZE this?? This deserves an answer. If
not why not??

Fourth, Who is paying for this??

It appears to me that Congress allowed this to happen and it should
be up to Congress to STOP this monitoring.

The MAJORITY  of the American people do not know this and Congress
certainly has not told the American people and neither has the news
media.

It is becoming increasingly more obvious each day that Congress is
not interested in the WILL of the people.

Congress has most certainly lost their collective way both
Republicans and Democrats. Both Parties are equally RESPONSIBLE and
are failing in their responsibilities.

Tell me that I am wrong.

Finally, in America WE DON'T WANT TO BE MONITORED even though it may
be just to act as observers.

The 27 Million Veterans, 1.9 MILLION military retirees living today
nor the Millions that served before us, DID NOT SERVE to keep America
and Democracy free just to have Congress give away those Freedoms.

Check out the links!

http://www.osce.org/odihr/?page=elections

Overview

ODIHR deploys election observation missions to OSCE participating
States to assess the implementation of OSCE commitments relating to
elections. Its extensive and carefully developed methodology provides
a unique, in-depth insight into all elements of an electoral process.
To do this, the ODIHR fields extensive teams of experts to observe
the entire electoral process before, during and after election day.
Every year, the ODIHR sends thousands of observers to monitor
elections across the OSCE region.

The 1990 Copenhagen Document commits OSCE participating States to
invite other States to observe their elections, and the ODIHR
provides a co-ordination framework for such observation. Long-term
observers, seconded by participating States, are deployed throughout
the country for a period of six to eight weeks, to assess the legal
and regulatory framework, the election administration, the media
environment, and conditions surrounding the election campaign. Short-
term observers arrive to monitor the end of the campaign, and the
voting and counting process. Shortly after election day, a
preliminary statement is issued, often jointly with other
international organizations present for the observation. A final
election report is published within 30 days after the election. The
1999 OSCE Charter for European Security commits the States concerned
to follow-up the ODIHRs recommendations. The ODIHR can provide
assistance in implementing the recommendations made in the final
reports through technical assistance projects.

In its election-related activities, the ODIHR co-operates closely
with the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly as well as with the
Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe.

We're on their calendar!!

http://www.osce.org/odihr/?page=electionsdiv=calendar

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[CTRL] [JBirch] WSGreat Idea of the Day: Bankrupting the ACLU (fwd)

2004-08-25 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:08:03 PDT
From: carl william spitzer iv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] WSGreat Idea of  the  Day: Bankrupting the ACLU




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 O'REILLY:   All right.  You got a menorah, you got the  star
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 federal holiday named Christmas.  It's insane, right?

 GREEN:   The  opposite  of insane.   They're  not  attacking
 Christianity, they're supporting the First Amendment.  Bill,
 there's a time and a place for everything.  And I happen  to
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 They have family dinners.  The next morning under the  tree,
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 O'REILLY:  All right.

 GREEN:   And so, if you're spending public money  on  public
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 So they decided -- they could be wrong -- let's have a...

 O'REILLY:  They could be wrong.

 GREEN:  ... let's have Christmas trees and Santas in schools
 because they're slightly religious but largely secular.

 O'REILLY:   Yes.  Is it -- is it Santamas?  Is it  Christmas
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 GREEN:  Santa Goldberg.

 O'REILLY:  No.  What's the name of holiday?

 GREEN:  Well...

 O'REILLY:  What's the name of the federal holiday, sir?

 GREEN:  Well, it's called Christmas.

 O'REILLY:   OK, thank you.  That's where we want  to  start.
 And it's based upon the philosophy of Jesus Christ, correct?
 Am  I wrong here?  That's what the holiday  celebrates,  the
 birth of Jesus Christ.

 GREEN:  We should all celebrate all the holidays.

 O'REILLY:   No.   Let's just walk through  this.   You  just
 admitted the federal holiday was named Christmas.  How could
 you  not?  It's based upon the birth of Jesus  Christ,  cor-
 rect?

 GREEN:  Yes.

 O'REILLY:  So you cannot depict that birth, which a  federal
 holiday is based on.  That is insane, sir.

 GREEN:   Now would you consider it insane if you went  to  a
 public  school  that  was 2 percent Jewish  and  98  percent
 Christian  and  only Jewish symbols were  shown,  in  effect
 proselytizing, you'd say, excuse me, wait a second.  I don't
 want to be proselytized by another religion.  And so there's
 a time and a place for everything, Bill.

 O'REILLY:  That's not what's happening here.

 GREEN:  Let me just finish.  One second.  One second.

 O'REILLY:  You have the Menorah...

 GREEN:  Adults...

 O'REILLY:  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.  You're going way off the
 point.  You have a Menorah...

 GREEN:  Adults are different than children.

 O'REILLY:  No, no.  You have a Menorah for Hanukkah.

 GREEN:  Right, right.


 O'REILLY:  I'm fine with it.  You have a 

[CTRL] Freedom Watch (fwd)

2004-08-25 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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[CTRL] IUFO: Global Warming Means More Frost-Free Days (fwd)

2004-08-25 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Informant News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IUFO: Global Warming Means More Frost-Free Days

Oh Boy!!! And longer growing seasons too! Are they trying to put a positive spin on 
this maybe?

Joe
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNewsstoryID=6070833

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Frost will become less and less common across much of the world 
as global warming accelerates, U.S. researchers reported on Wednesday.
The latest of a series of reports on the real-life effects of climate change shows 
fewer days and nights when the air temperature dips below freezing.
The report, from the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, 
joins a study from the same group released earlier this month predicting more severe 
and common heat waves in cities such as Paris and Chicago and another one focusing on 
California that showed higher temperatures would threaten the dairy and grape 
industries.
Also this month, the European Environment Agency predicted that cold winters could 
disappear almost entirely from Europe by 2080 and that heat waves and floods would 
become more common.
Weather researchers have already noticed fewer days when there is a frost in some 
areas, especially in the Western United States.
Writing in the journal Climate Dynamics, NCAR researchers Gerald Meehl, Claudia 
Tebaldi and Doug Nychka used a Department of Energy climate model to forecast 
day-to-day changes in temperature at the end of this century.
The model predicted a steady loss of days when there will be a frost in 2080 to 2099 
compared to 1961-1990.
In general, there is a gradient from west to east across the continent, with greater 
decreases in frost days in the western regions, Meehl said in a statement.
Changes in atmospheric circulation will cause the change, Meehl said.
The model predicts that in northwestern North America, low-level winds will blow more 
often from the Pacific, carrying mild air during the winter.
Eastern North America will get more cold Canadian air, however. A similar pattern is 
seen in Europe and Asia, with Northern Europe getting more warm ocean air and Asia 
getting cold continental blasts.
But the researchers do not find that the change in frost patterns will affect 
agriculture.
For example, the average first frost and last frost dates do not change, although the 
technical growing season may lengthen because more days, on average, will see average 
temperatures of above 41 degrees F.

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[CTRL] [JBirch] Beware of reaching a facilitated consensus (fwd)

2004-08-24 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:53:53 -0400 (EDT)
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] Beware of reaching a facilitated consensus


Here is an excerpt from an article that tells why:
--
It is quite remarkable, but sad, to observe how easily people of all ages,
occupations, intellect and description fall into line when they take part in
facilitated discussions. They respond to the attention they are receiving with
perfect trust. They truly believe their opinions are valued. They truly believe
they are contributing a service to their church, school, or community. They
truly believe they are participating in self government the way the nation's
founders intended. They truly believe the outcome is influenced by the opinions
they express.
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[CTRL] Super Sale for Conservative Readers (fwd)

2004-08-24 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] How Bohemian Grove Was Infiltrated (fwd)

2004-08-24 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 09:07:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: clc_202 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TheEagle-L] How Bohemian Grove Was Infiltrated

How Bohemian Grove Was Infiltrated



INFOWARS.COM EXCLUSIVE: BOHEMIAN GROVE

Occult Activities at the Elite Bohemian Grove
in Northern California Exposed!

Alex Jones Tells His Story

Austin, TX -- Last July, documentary filmmaker Alex Jones infiltrated
Bohemian Grove, becoming the first person to capture the bizarre
occult activities of the all-male elite club membership on videotape.
This footage recently aired in England, Ireland and Scotland on UK
Channel Four as Part Three of a four-part special: The Secret Rulers
of the World.

Alex Jones was inside the 2,700 acre elite compound for over five
hours, and states, Thank God I caught the whole thing on videotape
because no one would believe me if I hadn't. I have trouble believing
what I witnessed with my own two eyes. It was actually that bizarre.

For over 128 years, world leaders have traveled to Sonoma County
California in the month of July. Almost immediately, bizarre rumors
began to circulate in the local press that something dark and occult
was going on. The rumors entailed dark stories of men in black and
red
robes and a giant 40-foot stone owl, to which something, or someone
was being sacrificed.

Alex Jones, being a radio talk-show host had heard the rumors many
times, so he decided to look into it and did some research. To his
surprise, mainstream media articles from Parade Magazine, the
Associated Press, Reuters, the Sacramento Bee, and the Washington
Times confirmed the incredible. World leaders were traveling yearly
to
the rural redwood-covered hills of Northern California and photos
actually existed of the giant stone owl and the men in black and red
robes.

I was angered, Jones said, that in over 50 years there had been
only a handful of news stories written on Bohemian Grove, and that
these stories calmly reported on the rumors and engaged in a
whitewash, thus hiding a giant story in plain view.

Reading about all the law enforcement and Secret Service protecting
the Grove's mysteries every July, Jones took the challenge of Jon
Ronson of World of Wonder Productions to blow Bohemian Grove
wide-open with his hidden cameras.

After traveling from Austin, Texas to San Francisco, Jones and the
other members of his team, Violet Nichols and Mike Hanson, met up
with
the British filmmakers and began a three-day investigation before
attempting to enter the Grove.

On July 15, 2000, Alex Jones and Mike Hanson, equipped with two
hidden
video cameras and disguised as members of the Bohemian Club
successfully infiltrated the elite cult compound.

One of the most commonly asked questions is: How did they get in?

Following is a transcript of a taped interview with Alex Jones, who
describes his infiltration of the super-secret elitist camp and what
he witnessed inside:

The Bohemian Club lies within a range of large hills and cliffs with
300-400 ft. drops. The club itself consists of large log cabin-style
homes built into the gorge walls.

There is only one entrance on the north side of the compound, which
is
a paved road, appropriately named Bohemian Avenue.

A low barbed-wire fence surrounds the entire perimeter of the club,
but the fence doesn't matter because there is only one place where
the
hills come together, leaving an opening traversable by foot or car.
Simply stated, the Bohemian Grove is a walled city.

After being dropped off near the Bohemian Club, we inserted ourselves
into the woods about 100 yards from the main entrance. After going
over the barbed wire fence, we found ourselves in what can only be
described as a moat. The entire area along the road to the foot of
the
cliff walls had been dug out and flooded.

We were able to make our way across the expansive swamp by jumping
from broken tree limbs and other debris.

After climbing up a steep embankment, pulling our way up by gripping
on tree roots, we found ourselves in a large parking lot, with
hundreds of cars. We saw several dozen Bohemian Club
employees/servants getting out of the vehicles, which were everything
from Mercedes-Benz to Ford Tempos.

At about 100 yards through the trees, we saw a much larger parking
lot, filled with more late-model, luxury-style cars. Obviously, this
was the parking area of the actual 2,000 members of the Bohemian
Club.

When you come in on the main road, the moat, the swamp and the

[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] Taxes in 2004 (fwd)

2004-08-23 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:25:29 -0700
From: Les Lemke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [TheEagle-L] Taxes in 2004

This is the bottom line folks! Kerry will kill this country in more ways than just 
raising taxes!

Pass it on!

Kerry's Position on INCREASING Taxes!
 http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm

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[CTRL] [ctrl] Global tax chip coming - code 666 (fwd)

2004-08-22 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

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Subject: [ctrl] Global tax chip coming - code 666


GLOBAL TAXATION REARS ITS UGLY HEAD

By Joan Veon

 http://www.womensgroup.org/200406281826.html



It was ten years ago this year that I read a newsletter put out by a group founded by 
Bella Abzug,  The Women¡¦s Environment and Development Organization-WEDO, that told of 
the UN¡¦s plans to  present the idea of global taxation at the UN Social Summit in 
March, 1995.  At that meeting, Ms. Abzug, along with Dr. Inga Kaul, a key official 
from the United Nations Development Programme, held a special day long press briefing 
in which they presented their ideas.  I asked Dr. Kaul why the people of the world 
should allow global taxation since the various methods they were suggesting would 
provide the UN with over $1.646T when their 1993 budget was $10.5B.  Very flustered, 
she replied, ¡§They¡Kdeserve it¡Kand they would have monies left over to help 
countries.¡¨



Since that time, I have monitored and followed the concept of global taxation.  In 
order to have a global tax, which comprises the highest form of transfer of wealth, 
you need really good reasons.  At the Millennium Summit in 2000, the UN presented the 
world¡¦s 189 kings, princes, prime ministers and presidents a list of global needs. 
They include by 2015:  reducing poverty and hunger by 50%, ensuring that children 
everywhere are able to complete a full course of primary schooling, reducing by 66% 
child mortality, halting and reversing HIV/AIDS, malaria and other major diseases and 
improving the lives of 100 million slum dwellers, among others.



Notice that this is not a country by country goal, which would reflect the idea of 
national sovereignty but reflects a world united and governed through a universal 
political body called the United Nations.  These goals have also been adopted by all 
of the extended UN family:  the International Monetary Fund/World Bank, the World 
Health Organization, UNESCO, etc. as well as the Group of Eight heads of state.  Many 
leading multinational and transnational corporations have also adopted these goals.  
It is only you and I who have not been told¡Xprobably because we would not agree with 
it.



As such, the primary focus of the Spring Meeting of the IMF/World Bank that just 
concluded was how to meet and finance the UN Millennium Development Goals.  The UN 
estimates another $50B per year is needed.   The Development Committee which is 
comprised of key officials from both the IMF and World Bank, including U.S. Treasury 
Secretary John Snow, issued a report on how to increase funding which includes: (1) 
increase Overseas Development Assistance-ODA, (2) set up a proposed International 
Financing Facility, (3) global taxation and (4) increase in aid.



It should be noted that all of these suggestions have been around for awhile.  In 
1994, the United Nations Development Programme issued the Human Development Report 
which basically outlined the same ideas that are now being discussed.  The difference 
is instead of them being conceptual, as they may have been then, today they are being 
seriously discussed by country governments and are now showing up at the IMF/World 
Bank level and the G7 Finance Ministers and G8 heads of government levels.



Let us take a look at each of these.  (1) Increase Overseas Development 
Assistance-ODA.  To prepare for the Financing for Development Meeting in Monterrey, 
Mexico in 2002, George Bush doubled the amount of ODA from $10B to $15B beginning this 
year.  The UN target is .07% of Gross National Income.  The U.S. as well as most of 
the developed countries, are giving an average of 0.23%.  ODA is used for debt relief, 
technical cooperation, and emergency and disaster relief along with food aid and 
totals $6B a year.



(2) The proposed International Financing Facility.  The 1994 Human Development Report 
recommended that an International Investment Trust be set up.  

[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] WHY DOES THE FBI KEEP THE PHOTOS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC? WHAT DO THE PHOTOS SHOW???? (fwd)

2004-08-19 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 04:25:13 -0700
From: Les Lemke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [TheEagle-L] WHY DOES THE FBI KEEP THE PHOTOS HIDDEN FROM THE
PUBLIC? WHAT DO THE PHOTOS SHOW

A gas station's security cameras recorded the plane (or whatever it was) that hit the 
pentagon on 9/11, but the FBI took the film...film never to be seen again:

Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to 
have recorded the moment of impact. 'I've never seen what the pictures looked like,' 
he said. 'The FBI was here within minutes and took the film.' 



Three Months On, Tension Lingers Near the Pentagon
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1211_wirepentagon.html

Bill McKelway
Richmond Times-Dispatch
December 11, 2001


The Pentagon, the other Ground Zero, looks deceptively unblemished.

Construction workers have cauterized and sealed its gaping, wedge-shaped wound. On a 
hillside a half-mile away, saddened mourners and stunned citizens have gathered daily 
for three months. They leave tokens of remembrance.
Thousands upon thousands of the patriotic mementos have been cleared away and stored 
inside the Pentagon itself-as though the five-sided building of concentric rings is 
strong enough to absorb not only the pain of the 190 people who died there, but also 
the grief of survivors.

Thank you for the tremendous response!! reads a printed sign at the site. It says 
that all historical artifacts have been collected for their preservation and 
safekeeping.

Three months ago, on September 11 at 9:38 a.m., a Tuesday, Jose Velasquez heard the 
rumble of imminent death overhead. I knew something was wrong. The planes come more 
from the north and west [to land at Reagan National Airport] not from the south. And 
not so low.

He was talking on the telephone that morning to a friend who was feeding him gauzy 
reports about airplane crashes at the World Trade Center in New York. But Velasquez 
slammed down the receiver and raced outside when he felt the gas station he supervises 
suddenly begin to tremble from a too-close airplane.

It was like an earthquake, the Costa Rican native said last week. What Velasquez 
felt above him almost within touching distance was American Airlines Flight 77 just 
seconds before impact.

His gas station, open only to Department of Defense personnel, is the last structure 
between the Pentagon and the hillside that, hours later, would become a wailing knoll. 
By the time I got outside all I could see was a giant cloud of smoke, first white 
then black, coming from the Pentagon, he said. It was just a terrible, terrible 
thing to be so close to.

Today, Velasquez still trembles when he talks about the incident that has forever 
changed the military, government, and technology polyglot that is Northern Virginia. 
Even today, said Velasquez, people who come here tell me they are frightened to 
come to work. You can see it in their eyes.

Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to 
have recorded the moment of impact. I've never seen what the pictures looked like, 
he said. The FBI was here within minutes and took the film.

Undercurrent of Tension

Indelibly etched in the memories of millions of Northern Virginia residents are the 
events of September 11 and the sense of transformation they have wrought.

The change goes far deeper than the red, white and blue paraphernalia that adorns so 
many automobiles. The tenor of life has taken on a tuning-fork vibrancy, a tension 
that begs the question of what will befall us next but softened by a sense of 
necessary, resolute camaraderie.

At a convenience store, a reporter asked a Pakistani clerk how he has been treated of 
late. His store is off Columbia Pike, a road bisecting densely packed, multicultural 
Arlington County neighborhoods.

Oh, fine, fine, says the man, who wears an American flag pin where a name tag should 
be. I have been here 17 years, you know.

But as he talks, he is edging away from customers toward the refrigerated burritos, 
and his eyes look as if they are searching for a hiding place from overt attention.

At a parking payment booth at Reagan National Airport, attendant Sibghat Khan, a 
native of Pakistan, attributed his seniority and Northern Virginia's melting-pot 
society for keeping his job alive during lean times. But he's been laid off from a 
second airport job shuttling airplanes on the tarmac. Reduced flights have 

[CTRL] Help Spread the Truth about Kerry (fwd)

2004-08-18 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:28:14 EDT
From: Human Events [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Chris Field (Human Events Online)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help Spread the Truth about Kerry

The mainstream media pay so much attention to Kerry playing the guitar; they never 
listen to the words he sings.

Dear Fellow Conservative,

It is unfortunate -- but not surprising given their extreme bias -- how poorly the 
mainstream media coverage of John Kerry has reported his ultra liberal career.  If you 
were to watch the news and read most papers, you would think Kerry is just another 
garden variety moderate Democrat. This couldn't be farther from the truth.

That's why it is up to all red-blooded conservatives to do whatever they can to make 
sure more of their fellow Americans know the facts about John Kerry.

For months we, at HUMAN EVENTS have run articles exposing Kerry's radical record.  But 
it is not enough.  We need to reach far beyond our faithful readers to ensure that 
more Americans know the truth about John Kerry.

And that is where you come in.

We need your help to create a report we will call The Truth About Kerry. This report 
will clearly and conveniently document the Massachusetts Senator's startling liberal 
voting record in the Senate, and his leftist positions and outrageous flip-flopping 
public statements on all the leading issues.  For example, did you know:

* Kerry called Moztada al-Sadr, the terrorist leader of the recent uprisings in Iraq, 
a legitimate voice.

* In 1971 John Kerry told the Senate that the U.S. murdered 200,000 people a year in 
Vietnam and claimed that the U.S. was the worst violator of the Geneva Convention.

* Kerry consistently voted against weapon system after weapon system.  The very same 
systems that have protected our troops and helped us achieve vital military victories 
in recent years.

* Kerry has missed more than 80% of the Senate votes over the last year.  Even his 
governor has called for his resignation.

* He is ranked the fourth worst tax-and-spender in the Senate, and he has (with his 
buddy Sen. Ted Kennedy) brought his home-state, Massachusetts, more than $120 million 
of pork-barrel spending in the last year alone.

* He considers fighting terrorism a law enforcement matter -- not a war. (So did 
Clinton, and look what happened.)

Moreover, The Truth About Kerry will thoroughly document his chronic, flip-flopping 
tendencies.  For instance:

* He voted for the war in Iraq, but speaks vociferously against it now -- although he 
wants to send more troops.

* He supported the Defense of Marriage Act, but was one of the few who voted against 
it.

* He voted for the Patriot Act but now opposes it.

* He voted to remove the Marriage Penalty Tax, but now wants to reinstate it.

* Then there's this classic from his own mouth: I actually did vote for the $87 
billion [for our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq] before I voted against it

You can just imagine what his definition of is is.

Of course, The Truth About Kerry will also detail his ultra-liberal stances on 
abortion, gay-marriage, gun control, government and more.

Together we can make a real difference and be certain more hard-working Americans know 
about the real John Kerry.  If only 1,512 of our readers contribute $45 each we would 
be able to reach our modest goal of raising $68,000 to cover production and 
distribution costs. Of course, if you are fortunate enough and can send more (perhaps 
much more), your gift, will be greatly appreciated.  Help counter the liberal bias in 
favor of Kerry, send as much as you can afford, now. Click here:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/leadership.php

I thank you in advance for contributing to this special appeal at this critical time 
for the conservative movement.

Sincerely,


Tom Winter
President and Editor in Chief
Human Events

P.S. Remember, if only 1,512 people give $45 each we can distribute The Truth About 
Kerry and make sure people know the truth about John Kerry.  There is one sure way 
you can be certain to spread the conservative message this campaign season, click here:

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[CTRL] [JBirch] Keyes Wants to End Election of Senators (fwd)

2004-08-17 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.info-quest.org  My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040814/D84EMNKO0.html

Keyes Wants to End Election of Senators
Aug 13, 9:32 PM (ET)
By MIKE ROBINSON

CHICAGO (AP) - Alan Keyes said Friday he would like to end the system
under which the people elect U.S. senators and return to pre-1913
practice in which senators were chosen by state legislatures.

The Republican Senate candidate in Illinois, asked about past
comments on the election process, said the constitutional amendment
that provided for popular election of senators upset the balance
between the people and the states.

The balance is utterly destroyed when the senators are directly
elected because the state government as such no longer plays any role
in the deliberations at the federal level, Keyes said at a taping of
WBBM Newsradio's At Issue program.

He said it was one of the reasons there has been a steady
deleterious erosion of the sovereign role of the states.

Keyes' Democratic rival, state Sen. Barack Obama of Chicago, issued a
statement saying he supports popular election of U.S. senators.

I certainly trust the people of Illinois to choose who they want to
represent them in the U.S. Senate, he said. That is the very basis
of our democracy.

Keyes said he did not consider repealing the 17th Amendment a high
priority.

But if I ever see an opportunity in politics to promote it, I will,
he said.



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Re: [CTRL] [JBirch] WND Poll: What is your opinion of the ACLU (fwd)

2004-08-17 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:12:52 -0400
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBirch] WND Poll: What is your opinion of the ACLU

Although the ACLU sounds like they are defenders of liberty,
check out these links,
and see if you come up with the same conclusion:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1777/aclu.htm

http://www.nlf.net/faq.html

http://www.geocities.com/graymada/aclu.html

Recommended reading:
The ACLU on Trial, by William H. McIlhany, (New Rochelle, New York: Arlington House, 
1976)
The Tax-Exempt Foundations, by William H. McIlhany(Westport, CT: Arlington House, 1980)

Nadine Strossen, ACLU president, is found in the CFR membership list
at this website;

http://www.stanley2002.org/pfiles/a_f.htm

My own conclusion was,

that if you want to defend liberty,

stay with The John Birch Society,

--original message
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  From: Paul Blumstein
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  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:23 AM
  Subject: [JBirch] WND Poll: What is your opinion of the ACLU


  Looks like their readers get it. Why not add your vote?
  Paul


  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/polls/



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[CTRL] William's GOP.com Weekly Trunk (fwd)

2004-08-16 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:28:07 -0400
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Subject: William's GOP.com Weekly Trunk

THE WEEKLY TRUNK - GOP.COM



William, Senator Kerry often cites his time on Senate Intelligence Committee as a 
qualification to be President, but he never mentions being chastised by Democratic 
colleagues for his proposal to cut America's intelligence by $6 billion in funding in 
1994.

Because Senator Kerry missed every intelligence committee hearing that year, he may 
not have realized his proposal was so drastic. For two years, the Intelligence 
Committee considered important reforms and John Kerry chose not to participate. He did 
not attend George Tenet's confirmation hearing, and he did not attend the National 
Commission on Terrorism hearing in 2000.

This election presents a clear choice for all Americans. That contrast was made clear 
when Senator Kerry said he preferred a law enforcement approach to the War on Terror, 
and made clearer recently when he said he would lead a more sensitive War on Terror. 
The choice is clear: When it comes to fighting and winning the War on Terror, 
President Bush's commitment and steady leadership is what America needs.

Also, as of today the Kerry on Iraq documentary at http://www.kerryoniraq.com has had 
nearly 5 million views -- that's more people than who viewed Michael Moore's 
Fahrenheit 9/11 in its opening weekend. Click here (http://www.kerryoniraq.com) to 
watch the documentary and forward it on to your friends!

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* Rep. Porter Goss Nominated as CIA Director
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* 

[CTRL] Sample letter to the editor RE: The Free trade area of the americas.

2004-08-16 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

To the Editor:
   Both President Bush and John Kerry have indicated that the effect on
jobs of several free trade agreements will be an important issue in this
already hot election year. But there is no fundamental difference on this
issue between these two politicians. Mr Bush champions the proposed Free
trade Area of the Americas (FTAA) and Senator's Kerry's 3 for 3 in favor
of North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), The World Trade
Orginization (WTO),and related free trade matters.
   The flow of jobs overseas isn't the only consequence of so-called free
trade agreements. NAFTA has opened our nation's borders wider than ever to
illegal immigration and the proposed FTAA will worsen an already this
already huge problem.
   The issue that should be of greatest concern, however, is the
continuing loss of our Nation's independence because of these agreements.
Recently we have seen how a NAFTA tribunal has been given superiority over
our nation's state and Federal courts in a dispute involving a Canadian
Real Estate company.
   Former congress man and former federal appeals court  judge Abner Mikva
commented. If congress had known that there is anything like this in
NAFTA, they never would of voted for it.
  The FTAA will compromise  America's sovereignty just as surely as the
European Union entrapped its member nations. Our leaders shouldn't be
proposing more of these pacts; they should be withdrawing us from pacts
that already unfavorably impact our jobs, borders and national
independence.




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United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

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2004-08-13 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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[CTRL] [JBirch] FTAA is NOT free trade - The misnamed Free Trade Area of America (fwd)

2004-08-13 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:34:39 -0400
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To: John Birch Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] FTAA is NOT free trade - The misnamed Free Trade Area of
America

FREE trade  would mean that GOVERNMENT HAS NO CONTROL.
PEOPLE can make their own trade deals,
when they are FREE.
FTAA is NOT about free trade.
FTAA is government control of everything;
including trade,
but they are just calling it free,
because it sounds better that way.
Who would favor if they called it what it is?
It is tyranny over an entire continent.

Visit:
 http://www.stoptheftaa.org/
In announcing the completed negotiations for the Central American Free Trade Agreement 
(CAFTA), U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick declared: The United States is 
committed to opening markets around the world because American farmers, workers, 
consumers and businesses want to sell our world-class goods and services.

Unfortunately, many Congressmen have accepted this hype that the so-called Free Trade 
Agreements (FTAs) are designed to open up markets for American exports. A new report   
http://www.stoptheftaa.org/artman/publish/article_131.shtml

by William F. Jasper exposes this colossal fraud as applied to CAFTA:


The debt-strapped, bankrupt countries of Central America are going to buy U.S.-made 
products? With what?


No, these FTAAs are not about prosperity for Americans or anyone else. Their real 
purpose is to mask a huge power grab, following the same deceptive strategy that Jean 
Monnet used to create the early stages of the European Union: Conceal the project's 
political purpose behind a pretense that it was concerned only with economic 
cooperation, based on dismantling trade barriers.


Recommendation: Read CAFTA: Stepping Stone to the FTAA

http://www.stoptheftaa.org/artman/publish/article_131.shtml

and then write your representative and senators

http://capwiz.com/jbs/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=5769006

in opposition to CAFTA and any agreement that would set up a so-called Free Trade Area 
of the Americas.

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[CTRL] [JBirch] Where is the press coverage?? (fwd)

2004-08-12 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:19:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Marv Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] Where is the press coverage??

This is an excerpt from an article on the testamony on Kerry by his Viet Nam
cmpatriots:
-
With the media playing their usual role as Truth Commissar for the now-dead
Soviet Union, the Swiftees are having to purchase ad time in order to be heard.
No Tim Russert interviews, no Today show appearances, no New York Times
editorials or Vanity Fair hagiographies for these heretics against the liberal
religion. The only way Swift Boat Veterans for Truth could get less attention
would be to go on Air America radio.

If the 254 veterans against Kerry got one-tenth as much media coverage for
calling Kerry a liar as Clown Joe Wilson did for calling Bush a liar, the
veterans wouldn't need to buy ad time to get their message out. (Wilson, you'll
recall, was a media darling for six or seven months before being exposed as a
fantasist by Senate investigators.)
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Read is all at http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39926

Remember: the press is NOT biased...


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[CTRL] [JBirch] WSWELCOME TO THE GLOBAL PLANTATION GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCES THE OUTSOURCING OF PROFESSIONAL JOBS (fwd)

2004-08-12 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:03:25 PDT
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBirch] WSWELCOME  TO THE GLOBAL PLANTATION GOVERNMENT
ANNOUNCES  THE OUTSOURCING OF PROFESSIONAL JOBS



  By Joan Veon
  NewsWithViews.com

  Do  you  remember the picture that was painted  in  the
 Chevy  and Ford television commercials in the 60s  and  70s?
 They  portrayed happy American families climbing the  middle
 class  economic ladder of success and prosperity.  In  sunny
 Cancun, those dreams are about to be turned into  nightmares
 as trade representatives from 147 countries meet to  broaden
 the rules of free trade.

  The  Bush  Administration has opened  the  World  Trade
 Organization meeting by calling for a radical departure from
 the Doha Round by eliminating ALL trade barriers and  export
 subsidies  on both sides of the table instead of a few at  a
 time. Even though the living standard of the average  Ameri-
 can  is falling, both Republicans and Democrats  have  main-
 tained  that free trade will bring prosperity to  all  those
 around  the  globe. What they haven't told us is  the  whole
 story.

  Throughout  the  90's, while U.S.  corporations  trans-
 ferred  jobs to China to take advantage of its  slave  labor
 force,  you paid no attention while the blue-collar  workers
 were  being laid off since it wasn't you. Well  buddy,  it's
 your  turn. Here in majestic Cancun where powerful  gyrating
 waves beat upon white sand beaches and where the water is so
 blue  that  you forget you are still on planet  Earth,  many
 highly  paid professional jobs are now up for grabs  to  the
 lowest bidder.

  In  response to a question I asked about how many  pro-
 fessional jobs would be lost or what kind of wage adjustment
 would American workers incur as a result of lowering  barri-
 ers  on trade in services, members of the U.S.   negotiating
 team  said  that they were not able to provide any  kind  of
 projections but they did maintain that if they are  success-
 ful  in  all  three areas, the standard of  living  in  many
 developing countries will rise because they will be partici-
 pating in a global outsourcing of goods and services.

  What  this means is that your job just might be one  of
 those  outsourced.  Countries waiting in line to  take  your
 high  tech,  accounting,  tele-marketing,  medical   x-rays,
 engineering,  architectural  or financial  analyst  job  are
 lining  up  in  India, South  Africa,  Australia,  Malaysia,
 Singapore  and China. According to The Financial  Times,  a
 fundamental restructuring of rich-world economies is in the
 process  of being birthed.  In the 1980s it was  manufactur-
 ing, then in the 1990s it was outsourcing of the manufactur-
 ing  process, now it is the outsourcing of the  professional
 jobs!

  What  is the cry of Wall Street?  PROFITS-PROFITS-PROF-
 ITS!!! We will now experience a major shift in our  standard
 of  living  on  all economic levels which will  help  us  to
 finally see what is at stake when profits are maximized:  MY
 JOB, YOUR JOB!

  I  am  told that General Motors is in  the  process  of
 transferring  their engineering design department  to  India
 where they will pay an Indian engineer $8,000 a year  versus
 $50,000-80,000  here. Think of the savings.  Think  of  what
 the  analysts  will  say when they report  the  increase  in
 profits.  GMs stock will rise by 10-30% and  investors  will
 cheer-that's if anybody can afford to invest. After all when
 you have a standard of living that supports a $250,000  plus
 mortgage, two car payments and kids in college, and then you
 find  that it is your job that has been outsourced, you  are
 not going to be overjoyed. Furthermore you will have to sell
 all your mutual funds, 401ks and IRAs if you don't have  any
 savings while you get re-training for cleaning the  streets.
 That then will depress the stock and the analysts will  moan
 and groan and the financial geniuses in government will  say
 they need to outsource more jobs.

  Because  the  U.S. is importing $500B more than  it  

[CTRL] [TheEagle-L] Fw: JOHN KERRY ON HUNTING (fwd)

2004-08-10 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:10:14 -0700
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Subject: [TheEagle-L] Fw: JOHN KERRY ON HUNTING

Kerry also has a 100% voting record with the anti-gun Brady Campaign

Kerry's campaign says he agrees with the view that there is
 no personal constitutional right, under the Second Amendment, to own or use a gun . 



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JOHN KERRY ON HUNTING
http://www.georgewbush.com/Sportsmen/Read.aspx?ID=2930

I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach. I track 
and move and decoy and play games and try to outsmart them. You know, you kind of play 
the wind. That's hunting, said Kerry.  (Craig Gilbert, Bringing candidate to life, 
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 7/5/04)

The Truth about John Kerry's Record for Hunters

John Kerry has the highest rating on the Humane Scorecard sponsored jointly by the 
Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) and the Fund for Animals.  Both groups are 
firmly committed to ending hunting in this country. HSUS' website says sport hunting 
the killing of wild animals as recreation is fundamentally at odds with the values of 
a humane, just and caring society (emphasis added).  .  http://www.hsus.org/ace/12035 
,

Heidi Prrescott, the National Director of the Fund for Animals, said in a 1995 speech 
that the Fund for Animals is unalterably opposed to the killing of animals for sport 
(emphasis added).  (Speech by Heidi Prescott to the 4th Annual Governors Symposium on 
North America's Hunting Heritage, August 1995)

John Kerry was endorsed by and received an A rating from the League of Conservation 
Voters. This environmental extremist group supports anti-hunters in Congress.

Kerry also has a 100% voting record with the anti-gun Brady Campaign.

John Kerry received an F rating from the NRA and a 0% rating from Gun Owners of 
America in their most recent rankings of legislators.

Kerry's campaign says he agrees with the view that there is no personal 
constitutional right, under the Second Amendment, to own or use a gun.

Kerry made his feelings about hunters known when he said I don't want to be the 
candidate of the NRA in this country.

Unlike 60% of the U.S. Congress, John Kerry is not, and has never been, a member of 
the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus.  The Caucus describes its membership as open to 
Congressmen and Senators who are sportsmen or who support the concept of sustained use 
and wildlife management, even if they do not themselves take to the fields and waters 
to fish, hunt or trap.

Kerry, who has missed more than 2/3 of his Senate votes this year, came back to the 
Senate to help kill the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.  During the debate, 
he voted for Senator Kennedy's amendment to the bill which would have outlawed many 
center-fire rifle cartridges that hunters regularly use.

John Kerry cosponsored the Roadless Area Conservation Act in the Senate with other 
enemies of hunters like Barbara Boxer, Charles Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton.  
The bill, if passed, would have greatly restricted access to our National Forest 
system by hunters, fishermen, and other recreational users.





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[CTRL] [new_world_order_survival] UN background (fwd)

2004-08-10 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-

Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: [new_world_order_survival] UN background

The truth about the United Nations!
More and more Americans are coming to the chilling
realization that
U.S. membership in the United Nations poses a very
real threat to our
survival as a free and independent nation. Here are
some good reasons to be
concerned:

1. The UN's basic philosophy is both anti-American and

pro-totalitarian. Our Declaration of Independence
proclaims the self-evident truth
that men ... are endowed by their Creator with
certain unalienable
rights. But, in its Covenant on Civil and Political
Rights, the UN ignores
God's existence, implies that it grants rights, and
then repeatedly
claims power as provided by law to cancel them out
of existence. If any
government can place restrictions on such fundamental
rights as freedom
of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, freedoms
of the press,
association, movement, and religion, soon there will
be no such freedoms.

2. The UN was founded by Communists and CFR members
whose common goal
was a socialist world government. Sixteen key U.S.
officials who shaped
the policies leading to the creation of the UN were
later exposed in
sworn testimony as secret Communists. These included
Alger Hiss, chief
planner of the 1945 founding conference, and the
Assistant Secretary of
the Treasury, Harry Dexter White. The Soviet Union
under Stalin and the
entire Communist Party USA apparatus worked tirelessly
to launch the
UN. Since its beginning in 1921, the Council on
Foreign Relations (CFR)
has always worked for world government. The key CFR
founder, Edward
Mandell House, in his book, Philip Dru: Administrator,
called for
Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx ... The CFR was
an early promoter of the
UN, and 43 members of the U.S. delegation at the UN
founding conference
were or would become CFR members.

3. The UN has always chosen socialist one-worlders for
leaders. The
Secretary-General at the UN founding conference was
Soviet spy Alger Hiss.
He was followed as Secretary-General by Norwegian
socialist Trygve Lie,
Swedish socialist Dag Hammarskjold, Burmese Marxist U
Thant, Austrian
former Nazi Kurt Waldheim, Peruvian socialist Javier
Perez deCuellar,
and Egyptian socialist Boutros Boutros-Ghali. Each has
consistently used
the full resources of the UN to promote Communist and
socialist causes
around the world. The Socialist International (which
proudly traces its
origins to the First International headed by Karl
Marx) today claims
tens of millions of members in 54 countries. At its
1962 Congress, it
declared: The ultimate objective of the parties of
the Socialist
International is nothing less than world government
... Membership of the
United Nations must be made universal ... Almost all
of the UN's
independent commissions for the last thirty years
have been headed by members
of the Socialist International.

4. The UN seeks power to control the environment,
population, children
... the world. Both the 1972 UN Environmental Program
and the 1992 UN
Conference on Environment and Development laid plans
to whip up
widespread environmental concerns (some exaggerated,
many completely
fabricated). These concerns would then be used as
justification for increasing UN
authority on environmental issues. The statements and
publications of
these UN programs leave little doubt that their goal
is a world
government with the power to cancel national
sovereignty, regulate economic
activity, and control the human race all, of course,
under the banner of
protecting the environment. In late 1994, UN
planners meeting in Egypt
approved a 20-year, $17 billion plan to stabilize
the world's
population. The UN's goal is to reduce population
selectively by encouraging
abortion, sterilization, and controlled human
breeding. The UN
Convention on the Rights of the Child also claims
power not only to grant rights
but also to cancel them as provided by law. It
claims that
governments must guarantee children freedom of
expression ... freedom to seek,
receive, and impart information ... freedom of
thought, conscience, and
religion, regardless of the wishes of their parents.

5. The UN Charter outlines the path to world tyranny.
After giving lip
service about not intervening in matters which are
essentially within
the domestic jurisdiction of any state ..., the UN
Charter continues,
but this principle shall not prejudice the

[CTRL] [JBirch] FW: The New American - August 23, 2004 Issue (fwd)

2004-08-10 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector-






Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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The following articles from the
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/08-23-2004/ August 23, 2004 issue
of THE NEW AMERICAN are now available online.

 http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/08-23-2004/index.htm Getting the
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/08-23-2004/facts.htm Facts Straight
A growing number of people have been led to believe that an airliner did not
hit the Pentagon on 9/11. However, in this case the official version of
events is irrefutable.

Conspiracy
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/08-23-2004/realities.htm Realities
The Internet and talk radio abound with ridiculous rumors and falsehoods
dealing with conspiracy. Yet, there are many examples of the real thing.



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[CTRL] [JBirch] Sustainable Development is behind it all (fwd)

2004-08-09 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 07:59:43 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: [JBirch] Sustainable Development is behind it all

Here is an excerpt from an article that reveals the UN Sustainable Development agenda

They've divided us and conquered us.

They've succeeded because you think your fight is against gun control. Because
you think your fight is against bad schools. Because you think your fight is
against the Endangered Species Act and roadless programs, and wetlands
regulations, and water rights and Heritage Areas. Because you think your fight
is against Democrats and not Republicans. Because you think it's a fight
between evil liberals and good guy conservatives.

You're wrong. Your fight is against a well-planned, well orchestrated agenda
for the complete transformation of America. And unless you learn that fact now,
today... and unless you fully educate yourselves to every aspect of that agenda
and fight it on the proper terms - then you cannot win!

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[CTRL] [JBirch] Michael Morre is also part of the problem (fwd)

2004-08-09 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: [JBirch] Michael Morre is also part of the problem

Here is an excerpt from an article that tells what the problem really is:

The source of real power rests with a handful of people who control our money,
and who in turn control the information we have access to. Real power is in the
hands of an alliance of the largest international banking families and the
owners and chief executives of the huge multi- national corporations, which
also own all the major media outlets. With the capability to create money and
control the supply of that money, the banking establishment, at its highest
levels, has practically unlimited power to control world events. And with this
group's monopoly of information through the mainstream media, they have the
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[CTRL] [JBirch] Who is Antonio Gramsci? (fwd)

2004-08-09 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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Subject: [JBirch] Who is Antonio Gramsci?

Here is an excerpt from an article that tells who he was and what he did:
-
Anyone who accepts the idea that Communism is dead completely fails to
understand the basic nature of our enemies. Communism is not an IDEOLOGY in
which one believes. It is a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY in which you enlist. All over
the world, Marxist `ideology' has been modified to suit local situations. Both
Lenin and Stalin modified Karl Marx's ideas to suit their own ends. In NO case
has Communism ever come to power in a country by any popular revolution. In
fact, it should be noted that the ONLY popular revolutions in this century have
been ANTI-Marxist as in Berlin in 1954 and Hungary in 1956. Wherever Communism
came to power, it was only maintained by use of force and incredible levels of
killing and terror. This inevitably caused opposition at home and abroad making
further extension of Communism very difficult because of growing worldwide
opposition.

This is, of course, easy for us to see today after some 80 years of history.
However, Gramsci realized this at the very birth of Communist hegemony. He
recognized that ordinary people had loyalties to God and family which far
outweighed any allegiance to class. He realized that civilization and
Christianity were so totally bound together that a frontal attack on that
society was, at best, useless and actually counter-productive. He stated that
it would be much better to attack existing society much more subtly, gradually
transforming the collective consciousness over a period of decades, even
generations, from its predominantly Christian view into one which would be more
receptive to socialism.
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[CTRL] [JBirch] How to destroy a republic: inch by inch (fwd)

2004-08-09 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
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for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: [JBirch] How to destroy a republic: inch by inch

Here is the start of an article on the subject:
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I saw a bumper sticker recently that said: Inch by inch anything is a cinch
and I thought about the United Nations Regional government and how it has been
implemented inch by inch and how it has destroyed our Republic and with that
inspiration from the bumper sticker I decided to try to address Regional
government in an inch by inch manner that may help people to understand more
easily. I DO NOT pretend to be an authority so please, dear readers
knowledgeable on this subject, allow me a little leeway if I get some point
wrong.
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[CTRL] C.R.E.S.T. UN Observers (fwd)

2004-08-09 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
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for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Heard today on Fox News U.S.A. will getUN observers for the 2004
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Re: [CTRL] [ParanoidTimes] Dry/Ice: Global Warming Revealed (fwd)

2004-08-08 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: Re: [ParanoidTimes] Dry/Ice: Global Warming Revealed

M. Twain-

Don't get all upset.

Global warming is a fraud. It was decided to make it up
in 'The Report From Iron Mountain' in 1962...
That, and the 'fake alien menace' scenario

Read this:
```
OZONE DEPLETION AND GLOBAL WARMING
by Harry Mobley

Simple science:

Oxygen == O2

When ultraviolet rays from the sun hit oxygen, the two molecules that
make up oxygen break apart and immediately clump back into a group of three.

Ozone == O3

Ozone is a pale blue gas. The sky is blue  we can't see the stars. Every
day when the sun comes up, Ozone begins forming, and continues all day until
the sun goes down. When the sunlight fades, the ozone dissipates, and we can
once again see the stars.

There has always been an ozone hole over one of the poles. It is created at
whichever pole is experiencing winter. This happens because the sunlight
at the pole is most indirect at that time of year.

To make an ozone generator:

Place an ultraviolet light and a fish tank air pump into a box and plug them
in. Poke two holes, on opposite sides of the box. Through one pull the air
pump intake tube, through the other, the output tube. Now oxygen goes into
one tube and ozone comes out the other. Leave it on for a couple of days
and it will purify the air in your house. Hospitals use these for
sterilization and elimination of odors.

Global warming was created by a group of DUPONT'S scientists to get
Diflourodichloromethane (r-12 freon) made illegal. Their patent's time limit,
30 years, on freon was set to expire, and they wanted to eliminate the
possibility of competition for it's manufacture.

Without the proper certification, it became illegal to possess r-12 freon
after July 1st, 1993. At this time, 5/26/2003, a 30 pound can of RECLAIMED
r-12 (virgin r-12 is no longer available) costs about $1500 U.S. WHOLESALE.
Most of that is Federal tax. Prior to 1993, a 30 lb can was about $24-27.00
wholesale. Retail, a 12 oz. can was 87 cents.

Last I heard there were over 18,000 scientists worldwide who claim that
global warming is a fraud. Of course, no one in the controlled media will
talk to them.
___
harry

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Dry/Ice: Global Warming Revealed
by Drunvalo Melchizedek
July 19, 2004

What you are about to read is going to change your world forever, this I can
promise you. I actually apologize that I have to be the one who brings this
unsettling news, but you must know if you wish to survive, for what is coming
will either be DRY and heat or ICE and freezing.

Global warming has been in the news for over 40 years, and by this time we
have become complacent. Our scientists have come to the agreement that global
warming will eventually cause major changes and problems in the world, but in
their way of thinking it will be 50 to 100 years before we will actually have
to deal with the effects.

The general idea is that global warming will be slow and the world will find
time to discover the solutions to the problems.

New powerful evidence strongly suggests that this scenario is simply wrong,
and we had better prepare for another more abrupt possibility.

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[CTRL] [JBirch] Socialism Is Evil (fwd)

2004-08-07 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: [JBirch] Socialism Is Evil

Socialism is evil
Walter E. Williams

July 28, 2004

  What is socialism? We miss the boat if we say it's the agenda of
left-wingers and Democrats. According to Marxist doctrine, socialism
is a stage of society between capitalism and communism where private
ownership and control over property are eliminated. The essence of
socialism is the attenuation and ultimate abolition of private
property rights. Attacks on private property include, but are not
limited to, confiscating the rightful property of one person and
giving it to another to whom it doesn't belong. When this is done
privately, we call it theft. When it's done collectively, we use
euphemisms: income transfers or redistribution. It's not just
left-wingers and Democrats who call for and admire socialism but
right-wingers and Republicans as well.

Republicans and right-wingers support taking the earnings of one
American and giving them to farmers, banks, airlines and other
failing businesses. Democrats and left-wingers support taking the
earnings of one American and giving them to poor people, cities and
artists. Both agree on taking one American's earnings to give to
another; they simply differ on the recipients. This kind of
congressional activity constitutes at least two-thirds of the federal
budget.

Regardless of the purpose, such behavior is immoral. It's a
reduced form of slavery. After all, what is the essence of slavery?
It's the forceful use of one person to serve the purposes of another
person. When Congress, through the tax code, takes the earnings of
one person and turns around to give it to another person in the forms
of prescription drugs, Social Security, food stamps, farm subsidies
or airline bailouts, it is forcibly using one person to serve the
purposes of another.

The moral question stands out in starker relief when we
acknowledge that those spending programs coming out of Congress do
not represent lawmakers reaching into their own pockets and sending
out the money. Moreover, there's no tooth fairy or Santa Claus giving
them the money. The fact that government has no resources of its very
own forces us to acknowledge that the only way government can give
one American a dollar is to first -- through intimidation, threats
and coercion -- take that dollar from some other American.

Some might rejoin that all of this is a result of a democratic
process and it's legal. Legality alone is no guide for a moral
people. There are many things in this world that have been, or are,
legal but clearly immoral. Slavery was legal. Did that make it moral?
South Africa's apartheid, Nazi persecution of Jews, and Stalinist and
Maoist purges were all legal, but did that make them moral?

Can a moral case be made for taking the rightful property of one
American and giving it to another to whom it does not belong? I think
not. That's why socialism is evil. It uses evil means (coercion) to
achieve what are seen as good ends (helping people). We might also
note that an act that is inherently evil does not become moral simply
because there's a majority consensus.

An argument against legalized theft should not be construed as an
argument against helping one's fellow man in need. Charity is a noble
instinct; theft, legal or illegal, is despicable. Or, put another
way: Reaching into one's own pocket to assist his fellow man is noble
and worthy of praise. Reaching into another person's pocket to assist
one's fellow man is despicable and worthy of condemnation.

For the Christians among us, socialism and the welfare state must
be seen as sinful. When God gave Moses the commandment Thou shalt
not steal, I'm sure He didn't mean thou shalt not steal unless
there's a majority vote. And I'm sure that if you asked God if it's
OK just being a recipient of stolen property, He would deem that a
sin as well.

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[CTRL] See for yourself (fwd)

2004-08-05 Thread William Bacon
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Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in
United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations

 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of
appeals doesn't want you to say.
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
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Subject: See for yourself

Dear William,

Last week in Boston, we introduced a documentary video detailing John Kerry's 
continually changing position on Iraq.

Rudy Giuliani said he thinks every American should see this because it's going to 
say a lot more than any speech John Kerry gives. We couldn't agree more.

Watch Rudy Giuliani speak on Kerry's record and introduce the video at 
www.GeorgeWBush.com/VideoandAudio.

To view the full length video, visit www.KerryOnIraq.com.

From the stage in Boston, Kerry talked about the need to fight terror, but his 
flip-flopping on this important issue paints a different picture.

From talking tough about the need to remove Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass 
destruction in 2001 to declaring himself the anti-war candidate in 2004, Kerry's 
stance on Iraq has shifted with the political wind.

Seeing for yourself the political metamorphosis and verbal gymnastics of John Kerry's 
Iraq policy over the last three years tells the story better than any speech, ad, or 
press release ever could.

Once you watch the introduction at www.GeorgeWBush.com/VideoandAudio, we encourage you 
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[CTRL] You can help us get out of the united nations.....

2004-08-05 Thread William Bacon
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   How You Can Help!
Get US out of the UNITED NATIONS!
By implementing the suggestions below, you will be adding
your own weight to that of tens of thousands of others who
 are already working to get the U.S. out of the United Nations.
 These suggestions constitute an important part of our campaign.
 To better understand how they fit into our overall strategy,
 please see Preventing a United Nations Global Tyranny.

1. Circulate the petition
The petition serves a double purpose. The principal purpose,
 of course, is to demonstrate to the recipients
 (your U.S. representative and senators ) the growing demand to
 Get US out! But you can also use the petition as a door-opener
 for introducing the subject to others and for finding out whether
 or not they are interested. As soon as petitions are completed,
 they should be mailed to Washington, per the instructions on the
  petition itself. Please feel free to make as many copies of the
  petition as you need.
Another useful door-opener is the survey entitled Six Shockers
about the United Nations.
You do not have to be an expert on the UN in order to approach
others. Encourage those who agree as well as those who disagree to
 read one of the United Nations Wants pamphlets
 (see suggestion #3 below).

2. Contact your U.S. representative and senators
Congress has the power to end U.S. membership in the UN.
 But most representatives and senators will not oppose U.S.
 membership in the UN unless they are pressured to do so by a
 sufficient number of informed Americans in their districts and states. To
learn how you can add your own voice to this growing demand, see How to
Communicate With Your Congressmen, this appears in the centerfold of
Restoration of America.

3. Use the pamphlets to involve others
We designed The United Nations Wants pamphlet series to capture the
attention of busy Americans, to alert them to the UN threat, and to
encourage them to learn more and become involved. These pamphlets are
short, easy-to-read, and inexpensively priced for wide distribution. Each
pamphlet in the series focuses on a separate hot-button issue. the
Starter Kit contains six copies each of three of these pamphlets -- so
you can immediately use them to involve others. One copy each of three
other pamphlets in the series is also enclose.
We recommend carrying copies of one or more of the pamphlets with you so
they'll be available whenever an opportunity arises to discuss the UN
threat.One way of generating opportunities is to wear the lapel button
(see suggestion %5 below ). Whenever possible, ask each person who accepts
a pamphlet to read it. Shortly thereafter, follow up for a reaction.
Depending on the reaction, ask him  or her to sign the petition, to learn
more, and to become involved. Please encourage him or her to order the
materials recommended on the back panel of the pamphlet. Better yet,
please use the website to order extra copies of these material s and have
them available for sale.
Generally speaking, each pamphlet recommends the special United Nation 
issue of  THE NEW AMERICA magazine and the Starter Kit. One exception:
The United Nations Wants to Take Your Gun! Pamphlet recommends the pocket
book Global Gun Grab by William Norman Grigg, in lieu of the magazine.
Each pamphlet also directs readers to our website (A
HREF=http://www.getusout.org;Get us out of the UNited NAtions/A ) for
more information.

4. Read The United Nations Exposed -- and encourage others to do the same
The better informed you are, the more effective and motivated you will be.
Ditto for the people you are enlisting in the campaign . The most
comprehensive expose available on the UN is The United Nations Exposed by
William F. Jasper. Please take the time to read it. When others appear to
be seriously concerned about UN threat -- concerned enough that they might
be willing to read and in-depth study on the subject  -- ask them to uy a
copy of the United Nations Exposed. Also, you can use the information in
this book as a basis for letters to editor.

5. Wear the lapel button
This button makes an excellent conversation piece. In fact, it should
cause some passersby to ask you about the UN,  giving you a splendid
opportunity to hand them one of the United Nations Wants pamphlets and to
introduce them to the campaign ( see suggestion #3 above ). Be sure to
wear the button when circulating the petition!

6. Use bumper stickers and envelope stickers
By displaying our message, you will be helping to demonstrate the growing
popular support to Get US out! The more often Americans see this message,
the more receptive they will be to information explaining why so many
want  to Get  US out ! We there encourage you to place the enclosed
bumper sticker on your car and to use the envelope stickers to brighten
your outgoing mail. Individual ef-forts will reinforce our overall
publicity efforts, which include advertising in the print and electronic
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