Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Hi Ariel, Well done! Thanks! On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hi Steve, On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 03:36:05PM +0800, Steve Yin wrote: Hi Ariel, Can you try to run it as administrator? I am afraid that the user privilege cannot modify the registry on Windows 7. The AOO branch build need to register the UaccCom.dll as a COM component. I tried NVDA under Win 7 x64 and Win XP as administrator. It works fine. You were right, now it works, even toolbar icons are read now, nice work! Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: FOSDEM: Thank you all!
Am 04.02.2013 19:08, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: Hello, Is there somewhere AOO-specific images from the FOSDEM? Yes there is one. I'll publish it in my blog und put it under a cc-licence. Regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FOSDEM: Thank you all!
Am 04.02.2013 11:51, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Yes, the FOSDEM was a great experience. With our devroom and our stand we presented Apache OpenOffice quite well on this event. +1 May be next time, we need to organize a social AOO community event beside the general event - like a coming together in the evening - in order to get the possibility to introduce ourself in more detail to each other. We have such meetings in the past (before the fork). I take part in one, but not in the second. You have to find a good place for that and it seems that it must be on saturday, when all over communities have also their meetings. Regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: crashes due to corrupted user profile [was: Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0]
Hi, On 04.02.2013 21:58, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 04/02/2013 12:20, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : I got an influenza the 18th which knocked me down for 8 days. Funny, I got mine on 22nd! Back in the office last week I need to renew my complete system - harddisk crash. Funny again, my in-laws machine got a problem too. I could install Ubuntu on a clean area of the HD but couldn't use the Windows partition anymore. Here is what I have already figured out about the crashes which seemed to be caused by a corrupted user profile: [...] Currently, I have not observed a crash with a new user profile. However there are cases where the new profile still crashes (as for my in-laws for example). I have now observed a crash with a new profile. Setup: - Install and Run OOo 3.3 (en-US) - Upgrade to AOO 3.4.1 (en-US) - Run AOO 3.4.1 -- existing OOo 3.3 user profile is used -- crashes (category A) triggered via update check of installed extensions - Remove user profile - Run AOO 3.4.1 -- new user profile is created, but somehow the extension manager shows the bundled extensions from OOo 3.3 (three dictionaries) -- crashes (category B) triggered via update check of installed extensions A possible workaround for crashes of category B is: - Remove $USERPROFILE/3/user/extensions/bundled/extensions.pmap A possible workaround for crashes of category A is: - Remove $USERPROFILE/3/user/extensions/bundled/extensions.pmap|.db I will continue my investigations, but may be not this week, because I am busy with some other stuff. Best regards, Oliver. I am currently trying to collect corrupted user profiles from users who are reporting such crashes. So on my in-laws machine, I took their profile and tried it on the new Ubuntu partition: no crash after several minutes and several documents opened, including one that used to make AOO crash. Then I took that same original profile on my Ubuntu system, same result. Then I tried on my Windows Seven partition, same result, no crash. The only bias when trying on Win 7 is that I had switched off the internet access to avoid the many updates that I would have had to install (I boot Windows once or twice a year, only for corner case tests like that). Hagar
Re: crashes due to corrupted user profile [was: Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0]
Moin Oliver-Rainer, probably this extension update issue is (UNO)cache file related... ...just an idea... -- new user profile is created, but somehow the extension manager shows the bundled extensions from OOo 3.3 (three dictionaries) -- crashes (category B) triggered via update check of installed extensions Kind regards, Joost
Volunteer
As a long-term user of both Apache web servers and OpenOffice, I feel it's about time I contributed to the cause. So I would like to offer my services as a technical author and editor. In a career spanning 30 years in the field of Technical Communications I have endeavored to become as good as I can be in what MIT define as , the art and science of preparing information so that it can be used by human beings with efficiency and effectiveness. During this career I have been fortunate to have been involved in the processing and presentation of information for some of the best hardware and software teams in industries as diverse as telecommunications, computer networks, data processing, pharmaceutical, biotech, aerospace and financial software. This experience has given me an extensive working knowledge of single- source publishing, component content management, collaborative authoring, and localization. In addition, through my studies for a Masters in Online and Distance Learning at the Open University I have gained extensive knowledge of Web, e-learning and social network technologies and an understanding of the impact these technologies are having on the Public and Corporate Education sectors, and the opportunities for creative information products this presents. My ambition is to use, and share with others, my knowledge and expertise in the technologies, tools and methods for the production of documentation and other technical information products. So now is my chance. Regards Kevin Emmerkade 165, 8921 CB Leeuwarden The Netherlands It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.” Darwin
Symphony Clip Art License
Hi, I'd like to reuse the nice Clip Art from Symphony [1] in LibreOffice. Can someone tell me which License they have? Is it under the Apache License or copyrighted by IBM? Thanks Samuel P.S. Thanks to IBM for open-sourcing Symphony. It has really nice improvements. [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/main/extras/source/gallery/
Re: Symphony Clip Art License
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to reuse the nice Clip Art from Symphony [1] in LibreOffice. Can someone tell me which License they have? Is it under the Apache License or copyrighted by IBM? These are not mutually-exclusive. IBM can have a copyright on something, and also make it available under a license. In fact, that is how it ordinarily works. The author of a creative work automatically has a copyright in that work. And then they can provide a license, i.e., permission to use the work under specified terms. In this case the license is the license described here: http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt Regards, -Rob Thanks Samuel P.S. Thanks to IBM for open-sourcing Symphony. It has really nice improvements. [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/main/extras/source/gallery/
Re: Symphony Clip Art License
Hi Rob, thanks for the explanation. I read the Document and also the README [1] in the Symphony folder. This means, everything in the Symphony folder is granted under the license described in that document, even if they have a Copyright of IBM in the header like this file [2]. Excluded is third-party or Apache OpenOffice Code which has its own license. Did I understand that right? [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/README [2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/main/sd/source/ui/accessibility/AccessibleEditSource.cxx Am 05.02.2013 15:22, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to reuse the nice Clip Art from Symphony [1] in LibreOffice. Can someone tell me which License they have? Is it under the Apache License or copyrighted by IBM? These are not mutually-exclusive. IBM can have a copyright on something, and also make it available under a license. In fact, that is how it ordinarily works. The author of a creative work automatically has a copyright in that work. And then they can provide a license, i.e., permission to use the work under specified terms. In this case the license is the license described here: http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt Regards, -Rob Thanks Samuel P.S. Thanks to IBM for open-sourcing Symphony. It has really nice improvements. [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/main/extras/source/gallery/
Re: Symphony Clip Art License
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, thanks for the explanation. I read the Document and also the README [1] in the Symphony folder. This means, everything in the Symphony folder is granted under the license described in that document, even if they have a Copyright of IBM in the header like this file [2]. Excluded is third-party or Apache OpenOffice Code which has its own license. Did I understand that right? The README is not the license. The license is the signed CCLA form that IBM submitted to Apache. The README is a summary of what is in the CCLA. In general, the contents of the /symphony tree have not been reviewed by the AOO project. They are intended for use by members of the AOO project who are familiar with their status. Before files from /symphony are included in a release of AOO, the project will carefully review the contents of the release to ensure that the license status is clear. -Rob [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/README [2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/main/sd/source/ui/accessibility/AccessibleEditSource.cxx Am 05.02.2013 15:22, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to reuse the nice Clip Art from Symphony [1] in LibreOffice. Can someone tell me which License they have? Is it under the Apache License or copyrighted by IBM? These are not mutually-exclusive. IBM can have a copyright on something, and also make it available under a license. In fact, that is how it ordinarily works. The author of a creative work automatically has a copyright in that work. And then they can provide a license, i.e., permission to use the work under specified terms. In this case the license is the license described here: http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt Regards, -Rob Thanks Samuel P.S. Thanks to IBM for open-sourcing Symphony. It has really nice improvements. [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/symphony/trunk/main/extras/source/gallery/
Introduction to Dev team
Hello Dev Team at OpenOffice, My name is Fernando Martinez. I was born in Peru but I reside in the US(South Florida to be more precise). I recently got my degree in CS from Georgia Tech. I am looking for a job in the CS field. In the mean time, I would like to keep in touch with CS and what better way to do it than the work in a open source project like OppenOffice. I have used OpenOffice for years and I believe it is a great alternative to paid Office SW(like MS Office). I hope I would be able to help you make Open Office even greater. Sincerely Fernando Martinez Cel: 305-979-4639 Email: fernando.marti...@msn.com
Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module
Hi Sudalai, On 2/5/13 4:46 PM, Sudalai Muthukumar wrote: Hi, My name is Sudalai Muthukumar .S. I am doing B.Tech ( Information Technology) in Mepco Schlenk Engineering college, sivakasi (virudhunagar district in india).. My native place is Rajapalayam, in virudhunagar district. I like to learn new things and do more projects with you. I know basics in programming languages c, c++ and java. If you guide me, I will learn new concepts quickly. I need you help to improve my skill, so help me. I done some mini projects in my college. I done simple scientific calculator in c++. As I am 3rd year engineering student I have some knowledge in network programing, operating systems, DBMS, cryptography and web Technology. So I am interested in coding and web designing, can you help me getting started. I here by, declaring that the above given information is true. Thank you, welcome at Apache OpenOffice and welcome on board ;-) Under http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/ you can find some basic information to understand Apache and how the project works. Just pick the items that are most interesting for you. A very important step if you want to help with real developing task is to setup your build env on the platform of your choice. You can find more instructions in our building guide http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO Feel free to answer questions here on the list and keep in mind that you can't ask wrong questions. The code base is huge and often complex but we are here to help you to get started and to answer your questions. Once you have setup and build your own office you can dive deeper in specific code areas or you can start to analyze easy hacks etc. We have enough to do and can benefit from any help. Again welcome on board and we hope that you will enjoy to work with us on this interesting and funny project. Juergen
Re: Introduction to Dev team
On 2/5/13, Fernando Martinez fernando.marti...@msn.com wrote: Hello Dev Team at OpenOffice, My name is Fernando Martinez. I was born in Peru but I reside in the US(South Florida to be more precise). I recently got my degree in CS from Georgia Tech. I am looking for a job in the CS field. In the mean time, I would like to keep in touch with CS and what better way to do it than the work in a open source project like OppenOffice. I have used OpenOffice for years and I believe it is a great alternative to paid Office SW(like MS Office). I hope I would be able to help you make Open Office even greater. Sincerely Welcome Fernando, just a couple of comments, please remember this is a public list and you might want to reconsider publishing your personal cel number. That aside, welcome to the community, please make sure to visit our introductory modules to evaluate where you feel you want to contribute. http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html Please let us know about your skillset and also where are you feeling more leaned toward. For example, if you want to develop to the core, downloading and building openoffice might be a good place to start. http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html Fernando Martinez Email: fernando.marti...@msn.com -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Volunteer
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:26 AM, coaim...@o2.co.uk wrote: As a long-term user of both Apache web servers and OpenOffice, I feel it's about time I contributed to the cause. So I would like to offer my services as a technical author and editor. Hello Kevin, and welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project! We have a separate mailing list dedicated to documentation. I encourage you to subscribe to that mailing list and to post your note there as well. To subscribe, send a note to : doc-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org. Then you can post by sending an email to d...@openoffice.apache.org. In a career spanning 30 years in the field of Technical Communications I have endeavored to become as good as I can be in what MIT define as , the art and science of preparing information so that it can be used by human beings with efficiency and effectiveness. Excellent. I like that definition. During this career I have been fortunate to have been involved in the processing and presentation of information for some of the best hardware and software teams in industries as diverse as telecommunications, computer networks, data processing, pharmaceutical, biotech, aerospace and financial software. This experience has given me an extensive working knowledge of single- source publishing, component content management, collaborative authoring, and localization. In addition, through my studies for a Masters in Online and Distance Learning at the Open University I have gained extensive knowledge of Web, e-learning and social network technologies and an understanding of the impact these technologies are having on the Public and Corporate Education sectors, and the opportunities for creative information products this presents. If you have interest in the social networking side of things, this is a topic that our marketing team works with. Their mailing list is: market...@openoffice.apache.org. My ambition is to use, and share with others, my knowledge and expertise in the technologies, tools and methods for the production of documentation and other technical information products. So now is my chance. In addition to the mailing lists I mentioned above, where we do our work, you might want to look over our New Volunteer Orientation pages here: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/ Especially if you are new to open source projects at Apache, the first few modules there will give you some useful background. Regards, -Rob Regards Kevin Emmerkade 165, 8921 CB Leeuwarden The Netherlands It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.” Darwin
Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module
Forwarding Juergen's answer (below) to Sudalai who is not subscribed. Andrea. Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi Sudalai, On 2/5/13 4:46 PM, Sudalai Muthukumar wrote: Hi, My name is Sudalai Muthukumar .S. I am doing B.Tech ( Information Technology) in Mepco Schlenk Engineering college, sivakasi (virudhunagar district in india).. My native place is Rajapalayam, in virudhunagar district. I like to learn new things and do more projects with you. I know basics in programming languages c, c++ and java. If you guide me, I will learn new concepts quickly. I need you help to improve my skill, so help me. I done some mini projects in my college. I done simple scientific calculator in c++. As I am 3rd year engineering student I have some knowledge in network programing, operating systems, DBMS, cryptography and web Technology. So I am interested in coding and web designing, can you help me getting started. I here by, declaring that the above given information is true. Thank you, welcome at Apache OpenOffice and welcome on board ;-) Under http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/ you can find some basic information to understand Apache and how the project works. Just pick the items that are most interesting for you. A very important step if you want to help with real developing task is to setup your build env on the platform of your choice. You can find more instructions in our building guide http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO Feel free to answer questions here on the list and keep in mind that you can't ask wrong questions. The code base is huge and often complex but we are here to help you to get started and to answer your questions. Once you have setup and build your own office you can dive deeper in specific code areas or you can start to analyze easy hacks etc. We have enough to do and can benefit from any help. Again welcome on board and we hope that you will enjoy to work with us on this interesting and funny project. Juergen
Re: Tutorial Impress
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz ivan.pootd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in this tutorial but my question is: 1. What will I do with the codes? 2. How I can do it? Help me! Could you give us more information, the URL link, to the tutorial you're looking at. You may also find the forums, http://user.services.openoffice.org/ or users mailing list, http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html helpful. -- MzK A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -- Sydney Smith
[New Volunteer] How Apache OpenOffice works level completed
Hello Dev Team, I have completed the How Apache OpenOffice works level. Fernando Martinez cel: 305-979-4639 email:fernando.marti...@msn.com
Re: Tutorial Impress
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 10:00:18AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz ivan.pootd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in this tutorial but my question is: 1. What will I do with the codes? 2. How I can do it? Help me! Could you give us more information, the URL link, to the tutorial you're looking at. You may also find the forums, http://user.services.openoffice.org/ or users mailing list, http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html Jorge is building from source, so he is not looking for end-user documentation. @Jorge: what tutorial did you read? Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpE4wrag6PSG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? Advantage: -- Can have a cleaner, easier-to-use taxonomy. We could clearly separate product-related from project-related products. We could make it easier for users to find the application-level category and enter their bugs there. -- Easier to generate reports and statistics on QA status. Typically we want to know how many new/open/critical bugs exist for the product, not for the website or other non-product areas. Disadvantage: An additional mouse click when entering new bugs, though it might actually be faster since user would not need to search through a list of 50 products to find the one they want. Regards, -Rob
Re: Tutorial Impress
Hi, Kay Schenk schrieb: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz ivan.pootd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in this tutorial but my question is: 1. What will I do with the codes? 2. How I can do it? Help me! Please look at the bottom of the page, you see 21. Dezember 2006. So it is an old tutorial. Nevertheless it might be useful, if you will work Impress. Do you want to work in Impress? The tutorial shows you, how to add an item to the context menu of a selected graphic. If you want to work in that area, you can try to understand the code and have a look, how this feature is actually implemented and whether the description is still correct. Do you have already found a topic you want to work on? Could you give us more information, the URL link, to the tutorial you're looking at. Hi Kay, it is http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Tutorial_Impress You may also find the forums, http://user.services.openoffice.org/ or users mailing list, http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html helpful. I think, Jorge will become a developer for Apache OpenOffice. Kind regards Regina
{New Volunteer Modules] Working on decision Making Module
Hello Dev Team, I am working on the decision Making Module Fernando Martinez cel: 305-979-4639 email:fernando.marti...@msn.com
[New Volunteer Modules] Started on Infrastructure Module
Hello Dev Team; I have started on the Infrastructure Module. Fernando Martinez cel: 305-979-4639 email:fernando.marti...@msn.com
[New Volunteer Modules]Done with Infrastructure Module
Hello Dev team, I am done with the Infrastructure Module. Fernando Martinez cel: 305-979-4639 email:fernando.marti...@msn.com
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. Kind regards Regina
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
On 5 February 2013 22:22, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**describecomponents.cgihttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. +1 for simplification, and also name it with external names that users understand like draw, write etc. jan I. Kind regards Regina
Re: pdf export option for FilterData and ExportFormFields
On 01/02/2013 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: FEATURE REQUEST OpenOffice Writer documents that contain enterable fields should reflect those fields as enterable when exported as PDF when the level of PDF is one in which provision of field entries is allowed and has been selected in the PDF export options. I don't think the original poster meant this. This is a functionality we already have (at least, form controls are exported as enterable fields). The request was: From: Peter Eberlein Adobe products support an extended feature, so that Acrobat Reader can store the content of filled fields in forms. Do you mean that not only you wish that OpenOffice export fields as enterable fields (which it already does) but that the PDF file produced by OpenOffice should also support the ability to save form content? But is this ability a document property or something that depends on the PDF reader being used? Regards, Andrea.
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? I have no idea. So if we had categories, these might be put under an internals category. So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. That's one approach, and it would be OK if the only audience for Bugzilla was end-users. But if developers want the finer-grained products at a code module level, then we can support that as well. So imagine top-level categories like: 1) OpenOffice Applications 2) Internal Modules 3) Cross-cutting Concerns (performance, accessibility, localization) 4) Project Infrastructure Then, to the end user, I hope it would be clear that they go immediately to OpenOffice Applications. In fact, where we give BZ links for end-users, we can point them directly there. Something like this could be done quickly, 30 minutes. We might be able to do simplification at the product level, as you suggest. But that is far more work, and I think having 20 top-level categories rather than 50 is still too many. Ideally I think we want 5-7 top-level choices. -Rob Kind regards Regina
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
Am 02/05/2013 10:28 PM, schrieb janI: On 5 February 2013 22:22, Regina Henschelrb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**describecomponents.cgihttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. +1 for simplification, and also name it with external names that users understand like draw, write etc. Also my +1 for Regina's suggestion to delete old and no longer needed stuff - to make it easier for all. Marcus
Re: [New Volunteer Modules]Done with Infrastructure Module
Hello Fernando, I think that you need to write all your progress in your wiki, this is the site : http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page Regards, Daniel Alvaro. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Fernando Martinez fernando.marti...@msn.com wrote: Hello Dev team, I am done with the Infrastructure Module. Fernando Martinez cel: 305-979-4639 email:fernando.marti...@msn.com
CMS diff: Community FAQs
Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://openoffice.apache.org/community-faqs.mdtext Keith McKenna Index: trunk/content/community-faqs.mdtext === --- trunk/content/community-faqs.mdtext (revision 1442439) +++ trunk/content/community-faqs.mdtext (working copy) @@ -55,9 +55,9 @@ - [10]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html - [11]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/consensusBuilding.html - [12]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html - [13]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/voting.html + [10]: /docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html + [11]: /docs/governance/consensusBuilding.html + [12]: /docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html + [13]: /docs/governance/voting.html [14]:/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html [15]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted \ No newline at end of file
Re: Mirror
Am 02/04/2013 09:53 PM, schrieb Simon Schubert: Hello, you still looking for mirror servers? I work at the University of Mannheim and I'm the administrator of mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de http://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de. The server has a 2Gbps Uplink. Best regards Simon Schubert Thanks for your interest in distributing Apache OpenOffice. With the transition from Sun/Oracle to Apache we have also changed the model how to make the releases available for the world. We are using the server and services from SourceForge.net. When you are already part of SourceForge's network then all is fine. However, a separate mirror is not necessary for us. Thanks Marcus
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? I have no idea. So if we had categories, these might be put under an internals category. So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. That's one approach, and it would be OK if the only audience for Bugzilla was end-users. But if developers want the finer-grained products at a code module level, then we can support that as well. So imagine top-level categories like: 1) OpenOffice Applications 2) Internal Modules 3) Cross-cutting Concerns (performance, accessibility, localization) 4) Project Infrastructure Then, to the end user, I hope it would be clear that they go immediately to OpenOffice Applications. In fact, where we give BZ links for end-users, we can point them directly there. Something like this could be done quickly, 30 minutes. We might be able to do simplification at the product level, as you suggest. But that is far more work, and I think having 20 top-level categories rather than 50 is still too many. Ideally I think we want 5-7 top-level choices. I agree with having a limited number of top choices. I think that the component level should be limited to a similar number and ought to default to something like unknown. If you make massive internal changes for this. It is my hope that you will turn off email notifications during that short interval. Regards, Dave -Rob Kind regards Regina
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? I have no idea. So if we had categories, these might be put under an internals category. So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. That's one approach, and it would be OK if the only audience for Bugzilla was end-users. But if developers want the finer-grained products at a code module level, then we can support that as well. So imagine top-level categories like: 1) OpenOffice Applications 2) Internal Modules 3) Cross-cutting Concerns (performance, accessibility, localization) 4) Project Infrastructure Then, to the end user, I hope it would be clear that they go immediately to OpenOffice Applications. In fact, where we give BZ links for end-users, we can point them directly there. Something like this could be done quickly, 30 minutes. We might be able to do simplification at the product level, as you suggest. But that is far more work, and I think having 20 top-level categories rather than 50 is still too many. Ideally I think we want 5-7 top-level choices. I agree with having a limited number of top choices. I think that the component level should be limited to a similar number and ought to default to something like unknown. If you make massive internal changes for this. It is my hope that you will turn off email notifications during that short interval. I have no desire to make massive internal changes. I'm volunteering to hide the ugliness behind top-level categories, something that I could do in 10 minutes with no notification emails, and which will immediately make things easier for end-users. But if someone is interested in doing the massive cleanup, then they are welcome to do that. But I haven't heard anyone volunteer to do that. So giving objections to a proposal that a volunteer has actually made, the net result is we're deciding to remain with crap. Regards, -Rob Regards, Dave -Rob Kind regards Regina
Re: CMS diff: Community FAQs
Thanks for the patch, Keith. I've checked it in and published it to the website. -Rob On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Keith McKenna anonym...@apache.org wrote: Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://openoffice.apache.org/community-faqs.mdtext Keith McKenna Index: trunk/content/community-faqs.mdtext === --- trunk/content/community-faqs.mdtext (revision 1442439) +++ trunk/content/community-faqs.mdtext (working copy) @@ -55,9 +55,9 @@ - [10]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html - [11]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/consensusBuilding.html - [12]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html - [13]: /openofficeorg/docs/governance/voting.html + [10]: /docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html + [11]: /docs/governance/consensusBuilding.html + [12]: /docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html + [13]: /docs/governance/voting.html [14]:/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html [15]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted \ No newline at end of file
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? I have no idea. So if we had categories, these might be put under an internals category. So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. That's one approach, and it would be OK if the only audience for Bugzilla was end-users. But if developers want the finer-grained products at a code module level, then we can support that as well. So imagine top-level categories like: 1) OpenOffice Applications 2) Internal Modules 3) Cross-cutting Concerns (performance, accessibility, localization) 4) Project Infrastructure Then, to the end user, I hope it would be clear that they go immediately to OpenOffice Applications. In fact, where we give BZ links for end-users, we can point them directly there. Something like this could be done quickly, 30 minutes. We might be able to do simplification at the product level, as you suggest. But that is far more work, and I think having 20 top-level categories rather than 50 is still too many. Ideally I think we want 5-7 top-level choices. I agree with having a limited number of top choices. I think that the component level should be limited to a similar number and ought to default to something like unknown. If you make massive internal changes for this. It is my hope that you will turn off email notifications during that short interval. I have no desire to make massive internal changes. I'm volunteering to hide the ugliness behind top-level categories, something that I could do in 10 minutes with no notification emails, and which will immediately make things easier for end-users. But if someone is interested in doing the massive cleanup, then they are welcome to do that. But I haven't heard anyone volunteer to do that. So giving objections to a proposal that a volunteer has actually made, the net result is we're deciding to remain with crap. I was NOT objecting, but since you have difficulty parsing my words I'll try again. (1) I AGREE with your idea. +1. The question is which components go to which categories, but I'm sure your initial choices will be almost completely correct and minor changes can be addressed in the future. (2) I was suggesting that the next level could use some work. Even if the component level gets minimal attention by your change. We should at a minimum think about the component default for each category so that the user is not required to make a change if they don't understand the options. (3) You missed the IF. I was expressing concern about getting thousands of emails since that happened in the past. I am glad that this will not be the case. Thank you for that. Shall I give you an extra +1? Done. Regards, Dave Regards, -Rob Regards, Dave -Rob Kind regards Regina
Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 5, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level products and within that each product has one or more components. Users, as well as new-volunteers, are confused by the 50 products. For example, it is not at all clear to them where cross-cutting concerns go, e.g., crashes that occur across applications, like the profile corruption issue. Also, some of the products are not really dealing with the code of the product, but are project related areas like qa, www, user-faq or education. Bugzilla has an option that we can enable that would add an additional level to the hierarchy, called categories. A category contains products, which contain components. Is there any interest in having categories enabled? No, I would like to go another way and reduce the product-list. For example, SDK has about 500 issues at all from the beginning from today about 128000. Compare it to Word Processor with about 770 issues in the last year. Products with low use does not need a division in components. There are more such low used products. I would put them together in two products: other source code issues and other non-source code issues and use their former product name as component. The other problem is, that some products are only understandable for insiders. Or do you know immediately what product oi or ucb is? I have no idea. So if we had categories, these might be put under an internals category. So keep only those products, which have got enough issues in the last two years to make a component list meaningful and which are understandable to end users. That's one approach, and it would be OK if the only audience for Bugzilla was end-users. But if developers want the finer-grained products at a code module level, then we can support that as well. So imagine top-level categories like: 1) OpenOffice Applications 2) Internal Modules 3) Cross-cutting Concerns (performance, accessibility, localization) 4) Project Infrastructure Then, to the end user, I hope it would be clear that they go immediately to OpenOffice Applications. In fact, where we give BZ links for end-users, we can point them directly there. Something like this could be done quickly, 30 minutes. We might be able to do simplification at the product level, as you suggest. But that is far more work, and I think having 20 top-level categories rather than 50 is still too many. Ideally I think we want 5-7 top-level choices. I agree with having a limited number of top choices. I think that the component level should be limited to a similar number and ought to default to something like unknown. If you make massive internal changes for this. It is my hope that you will turn off email notifications during that short interval. I have no desire to make massive internal changes. I'm volunteering to hide the ugliness behind top-level categories, something that I could do in 10 minutes with no notification emails, and which will immediately make things easier for end-users. But if someone is interested in doing the massive cleanup, then they are welcome to do that. But I haven't heard anyone volunteer to do that. So giving objections to a proposal that a volunteer has actually made, the net result is we're deciding to remain with crap. I was NOT objecting, but since you have difficulty parsing my words I'll try again. (1) I AGREE with your idea. +1. The question is which components go to which categories, but I'm sure your initial choices will be almost completely correct and minor changes can be addressed in the future. I can toss the existing products onto the wiki and propose some categorization. I can probably figure out 75% or so of them, but some are mysteries where I'll need expert opinions. (2) I was suggesting that the next level could use some work. Even if the component level gets minimal attention by your change. We should at a minimum think about the component default for each category so that the user is not required to make a change if they don't understand the options. This may be why I had difficulties getting your meaning. The next level under a 'category' is a 'product' and under a product is a 'component'. (3) You missed the IF. I was expressing concern about getting thousands of emails since that happened in the past. I am glad that this will not be the case. Thank you for that. The previous email floods were because I was changing the product assignments on the individual issues, doing bulk changes.
High Vote Issues in Bugzilla
Current BZ version doesn't seem to allow display of vote totals in a view column. But I found a way to make an off-line report. So if any developer is looking for things that will make many users happy, here is a list of all open issues that have more than 100 votes. Regards, -Rob ID Status Summary Votes 2497CONFIRMED allow import of SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) 484 93613 CONFIRMED Solver does not save its model 378 3959CONFIRMED Outline View (aka MS Word) 349 4914CONFIRMED normal view option needed 277 103580 CONFIRMED Add Sensitivity Analysis to Linear Solver 274 19291 CONFIRMED Split Windows for single document 229 51662 CONFIRMED Read separators and formats from Windows Regional Settings. 223 16032 ACCEPTEDOOo should support optional OpenType features 214 4260ACCEPTEDProposals for Bibliographic facility enhancements. 214 3545CONFIRMED Easier Cropping and rotating of images 211 10547 CONFIRMED Add UML symbols to OO Draw 208 3395ACCEPTEDReveal formatting codes 200 8275CONFIRMED more border types (dashed, dotted, etc) 174 12686 CONFIRMED Tabbed Document Windows 162 5930CONFIRMED Engineering Notation155 42946 CONFIRMED Error Bars for X values 151 20819 CONFIRMED add polynomial regression type 143 20370 REOPENEDQ-PCD MSInteroperability-33: embedd fonts into the document132 16036 ACCEPTEDAnimations in Macromedia Flash Export 127 51904 CONFIRMED Wizard to import table to database 121 90815 CONFIRMED [StartCenter] Provide configuration option to deactivate StartCenter 119 32117 CONFIRMED SQLite SDBC driver for OOo 118 8949CONFIRMED [RFE] query on several tables of a DBase/Calc database 116 18829 CONFIRMED Support for skins 110 5608CONFIRMED Navigation button on OOo for hyperlink navigation (provide browser-like back/forward buttons) 109 24500 CONFIRMED Pasting table content into existing writer tables 108 33723 CONFIRMED NF-DATE: Ability to turn off Number Recognition for incomplete dates in Calc105 15773 CONFIRMED Currency symbol left justified, while amount right justified in a cell (accounting notation). 105 11121 CONFIRMED Styles for tables 103
Re: FOSDEM: Thank you all!
On 04/02/2013 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 03.02.2013 17:44, Fabrizio Marchesano wrote: FOSDEM has been a great experience: thank you all for the opportunity, your kind helpfulness and, moreover, your friendship. Yes, the FOSDEM was a great experience. Thank you for being there! Yes, indeed it was a nice event. With our devroom and our stand we presented Apache OpenOffice quite well on this event. Devroom: we had some excellent sessions, audience varying (but, in general, with several new faces at each session), level suitable for FOSDEM, a good mix of topics and of usual/new presenters. Slides from the sessions are published at https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/apache_openoffice/ (a few sessions were live demos/tutorials, without slides) Stand: very good, (fortunately) far too small to host all of us, a lot of questions to answer, and a lot of users informed. Organizers had the nice idea to put our table next to MySQL, who had the nice idea to bring a large Oracle roll-up banner and put it between their table and ours, which added a few more questions... But we did have a roll-up too, flyers in four languages (courtesy of Sylvain, Guy, Mechtilde, Michael...), and other merchandising (stickers, orb pins, live demos). Pictures (phone-quality) from devroom and stand are at http://www.flickr.com/photos/89947020@N07/sets/72157632699639150/ Other talks: we had several discussion within the OpenOffice group and with other projects. You've seen already some topics popping up on the dev and api lists, and more will come in the next days. May be next time, we need to organize a social AOO community event beside the general event - like a coming together in the evening Sure, but we'll have to book the restaurant well in advance! Regards, Andrea.
Re: High Vote Issues in Bugzilla
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 07:29:56PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: Current BZ version doesn't seem to allow display of vote totals in a view column. But I found a way to make an off-line report. So if any developer is looking for things that will make many users happy, here is a list of all open issues that have more than 100 votes. Regards, -Rob IDStatus Summary Votes 2497 CONFIRMED allow import of SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) 484 I don't get this bug, isn't it already fixed by Armin work? Unless the bug is about importing an SVG and manipulate as if AOO was Inskape... But for the comments, it seems users want to simply import the SVG, and may be break the SVG (see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=2497#c147), this is already possible. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpBLdM2hb9kr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: High Vote Issues in Bugzilla
On 2/5/13, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 07:29:56PM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: Current BZ version doesn't seem to allow display of vote totals in a view column. But I found a way to make an off-line report. So if any developer is looking for things that will make many users happy, here is a list of all open issues that have more than 100 votes. Regards, -Rob ID Status Summary Votes 2497 CONFIRMED allow import of SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) 484 I don't get this bug, isn't it already fixed by Armin work? Unless the bug is about importing an SVG and manipulate as if AOO was Inskape... But for the comments, it seems users want to simply import the SVG, and may be break the SVG (see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=2497#c147), this is already possible. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina This issue is very old, I think we could move to close it, unless there is any rejuvenated issue in it. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Tutorial Impress
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi, Kay Schenk schrieb: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz ivan.pootd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in this tutorial but my question is: 1. What will I do with the codes? 2. How I can do it? Help me! Please look at the bottom of the page, you see 21. Dezember 2006. So it is an old tutorial. Nevertheless it might be useful, if you will work Impress. Do you want to work in Impress? The tutorial shows you, how to add an item to the context menu of a selected graphic. If you want to work in that area, you can try to understand the code and have a look, how this feature is actually implemented and whether the description is still correct. Do you have already found a topic you want to work on? Could you give us more information, the URL link, to the tutorial you're looking at. Hi Kay, it is http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Tutorial_Impresshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Tutorial_Impress Thanks Regina. It looked almost like Jorge's original message got truncated or something, so it was a mystery to me. You may also find the forums, http://user.services.**openoffice.org/http://user.services.openoffice.org/ or users mailing list, http://openoffice.apache.org/**mailing-lists.htmlhttp://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html helpful. I think, Jorge will become a developer for Apache OpenOffice. Kind regards Regina -- MzK A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -- Sydney Smith
RE: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Steve, Ariel Installed Ariel's posted ia2 branch build Run as Administrator, and also captured a verbose install log. AOO350m1(Build:9611) - Rev. 1441343 2013-02-04 20:38:26 -0300 (lun, 04 feb 2013) Windows 7 sp1 64-bit Oracle Java JRE 1.7u11 Verified the UaccCOM.dll is registered at: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Components\B4197A678F2F566AC9CE342EB80665B2 as 346FD3847C37D3440BBCC0FF600F4DEA with a string value of C:\Program Files (x86)\Apache OpenOffice 3\program\UAccCOM.dll However, when running the ia2 branch as a user in the Administrators group, and monitoring with a11y's AccProbe Eclipse RCP probe as well as the MS AccEvent I am not seeing IAccessible2 events, only MSAA. The UI Access mode of AccEvent listings are also very sparse. Kind of interesting is that AccProbe shows all only a few of the msaa components howFound from Navigating the Tree--with most howFound values of AtPoint:java.awt.Point from browsing the GUI. No event tracking in the probes--and it follows that NVDA is mute. Am I missing something? Ariel on your Windows box are you running an Oracle 7 JRE, or Just the JDK 6 you built against? Going to try removing JRE 1.7u11 and backing up to 1.6u39 to see if that has an impact, but if IAccessibile2 is functional--should not need a JRE, right? Stuart
Updating Java libraries
I would like to update some of the Java libraries used, starting with hsqldb. Is there any preference to getting the source and building the jar or just grabbing the jar from the project site? There are four BZ issues in reference to hsqldb with patches, I am going to test the new version to make sure those issues are resolved but they are very old. Should I open another issue for this? Is there any recommendation/objection on this? After hsqldb I would like to move on to lucene. Just a general question, there are many old issues on BZ for example there are 96 for hsqldb but most of them are from 2006 and is referring to an old version of OpenOffice, would it be possible to close very old issues? Michael
Re: Problems with Events
Hello. Very thanks for your response. I just do not want that any time the macro is triggered, for example at the press of a key. I wanted to shoot only once, such as the data stored. Spend that otherwise will be adding double, triple, etc.. the total amount ... The issue is that in my database are on the one hand Sales and on the other hand Payments Sales, in two different forms, whose tables are not related to each other because there is in fact a relationship between them. In terms of sales, what I want to do is take the field from the Customer table saldo_actual current balance of the customer is always consistent, as recorded total sales in the form of sales for a given customer. That is, as I understand it, if you add a new record, for example, (in the form of sales) should add value to the field saldo_actual. If you change the record, the question is whether to subtract or add the field. And if you delete a record (in the form of sales) should be subtracted saldo_actual field value in order to always keep consistent with the actual values. This field is an internal field saldo_actual only I use to work with the database. It is not loaded by the user at any time. Then there is the form of payments of sales, which is independent of sales, which also works with saldo_actual field. I'm also doing the macro to this form and I have just a mistake, but did not want to post two things at once. In this form of Payments Sales, the idea is that when you select a customer in a combo box display the current balance thereof (as indicated at the time in the field saldo_actual), and by the amount written in the form of payments Sales, have a button to calculate the new balance and modify the registry saldo_actual customer table, (I'm also doing the macro to this button but still not working - I understand this macro also probably have to have the same schema of the first, as to have 3 macros that trigger to insert, modify and delete. This is in order to always keep consistent the saldo_actual field with the actual values. ). This is because I need to know on the one hand, the overall balance of the customer and also the history of the different balances that was having this (this is for a later generation of reports). This is to clarify the flow of what I do. I hope there is further complicated my question. Very thanks. Regards, Yessica 2013/2/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org On 02/05/2013 04:06 PM, Yessica Brinkmann wrote: Hello, As you remember I had many problems to run a macro. Now I have a question about the event to which I attach my macro. If I assign the macro to the event button mouse released I usually associate to initiating, or executing, (or what ever they call it now), so that it will also be called if there is a keypress and you only need to hook one event. Calculate Total button will increase the balance each time the user makes a click on the button and that is not exactly the idea. I thought now my macro to assign one of the following events: After Before resetting or shipping, but from the sales form, rather than buttons or specific fields. The idea is that only increase the saldo_actual once, to save the record. On the other hand, should only be added the total to the saldo_actual field in the table cliente if it is a new record, but if it is a modification, it should analyze the situation and as the case add or subtract the saldo_actual. While if it is a deletion, should subtract the total saldo_actual field. So I understand that I have to do actually 3 macros, right? One for new records, one for modifications and one for deletions. What is not clear for me is that events should put macros for this scheme work. I would appreciate very much a help with this please. regards, Yessica Sorry, I had difficulty following your question. First, I don't think that the macro will understand what you will do with a record. I don't think that there is an event that tells you that a record is about to be deleted, inserted, or modified. In other words, it is difficult to answer without understanding the flow of what you want to do. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odthttp://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Hi Stuart, On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 02:25:13AM +, V Stuart Foote wrote: Steve, Ariel Installed Ariel's posted ia2 branch build Run as Administrator, and also captured a verbose install log. AOO350m1(Build:9611) - Rev. 1441343 2013-02-04 20:38:26 -0300 (lun, 04 feb 2013) Windows 7 sp1 64-bit Oracle Java JRE 1.7u11 Verified the UaccCOM.dll is registered at: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Components\B4197A678F2F566AC9CE342EB80665B2 as 346FD3847C37D3440BBCC0FF600F4DEA with a string value of C:\Program Files (x86)\Apache OpenOffice 3\program\UAccCOM.dll However, when running the ia2 branch as a user in the Administrators group, Note that I am also in the Administrators category, but it didn't work, I had to run OpenOffice as Administrator (right-click on the Desktop shortcut, select Run as administrator). and monitoring with a11y's AccProbe Eclipse RCP probe as well as the MS AccEvent I am not seeing IAccessible2 events, only MSAA. The UI Access mode of AccEvent listings are also very sparse. Kind of interesting is that AccProbe shows all only a few of the msaa components howFound from Navigating the Tree--with most howFound values of AtPoint:java.awt.Point from browsing the GUI. No event tracking in the probes--and it follows that NVDA is mute. Am I missing something? Ariel on your Windows box are you running an Oracle 7 JRE, or Just the JDK 6 you built against? I have several Java versions, OpenOffice is configured to run with JRE 7. Going to try removing JRE 1.7u11 and backing up to 1.6u39 to see if that has an impact, but if IAccessibile2 is functional--should not need a JRE, right? When running as a normal user (even in the Administrators category), OpenOffice was using Java, the ia2 component and COM were not even loaded; running the program as administrator made ia2 work. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgp42LGXomddD.pgp Description: PGP signature
