[digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread pa0r
The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher sho...@... wrote:

 Russell,
 
 MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
 http://hflink.com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
 throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
 received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
 
 Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
 for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
 external/expensive proprietary modem.
 
 In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
 problem but it's still in development.
 
 As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
 PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
 
 For high volume or non-amateur commercial email you would be better 
 thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
 Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
 
 73 Sholto
 K7TMG
 
 Russell Blair wrote:
  
  
  
  We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
  my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
  I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
  to happen, any help ?
  
  Russell
  
  Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
  its called the PRESENT!
  
   IN GOD WE TRUST 
  
  Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell. Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693
  
 





Re: [digitalradio] Re: Rein - jpskmail with fldigi 3.0

2009-03-31 Thread Russell Blair
Rein, Tnx for the information I have downloaded jpskmail and now I need to get 
it up and running. I also had to load Java as well. I'm looking for the pskmail 
group to join and get some help.
 
Tnx Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

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Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, pa0r r...@couperus.com wrote:

From: pa0r r...@couperus.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:51 AM






The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher sho...@... wrote:

 Russell,
 
 MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
 http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
 throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
 received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
 
 Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
 for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
 external/expensive proprietary modem.
 
 In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
 problem but it's still in development.
 
 As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
 PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
 
 For high volume or non-amateur commercial email you would be better 
 thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
 Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
 
 73 Sholto
 K7TMG
 
 Russell Blair wrote:
  
  
  
  We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
  my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
  I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
  to happen, any help ?
  
  Russell
  
  Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
  its called the PRESENT!
  
   IN GOD WE TRUST 
  
  Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell. Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693
  
 


















  

[digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Andy obrien
Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ?  I
thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Rein Couperus
Yes, the server is linux only at the moment. Ultimate goal is to use a 
LAMP server without a GUI in future, but fldigi needs the GUI :)
We may also port the server to java some time, but we have to do it 
step by step. 

BTW, it is quite easy to install a server on UBUNTU, The installation 
proces has been automated. Most of the trouble is to get the 
fldigi/trx  combination running, the rest is easy.

73,

Rein PA0R


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 Von: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
 Gesendet: 31.03.09 14:19:31
 An: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Betreff: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


 Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ?  I
 thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
 America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Russell Blair
Andy, that band and frequency can I find a PSKmail server station, 
I'm trying to get pskmail to Rec. Is there a PSKmail group that I can look into.
Now I'm on 30m 10.148.50 and I hear some Pactor station.
 
Russell 

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


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Skype-Russell.Blair
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DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:17 AM






Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

Andy K3UK
















  

[digitalradio] Mars system

2009-03-31 Thread n0alo
Greetings
I have seen some messages about the Mars system using MT-63 etc. I have been 
considering
joing the Navy Mars but would like to monitor some first.
Can anyone tell me the frequencys where I can find them. 
Thanks
Lynn
RMC USN Ret.

[digitalradio] Call for Papers--2009 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference

2009-03-31 Thread Ford, Steve, WB8IMY
Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the 28th Annual ARRL
and TAPR Digital Communications Conference to be held September 25-27,
2009 in Chicago, Illinois. These papers will also be published in the
Conference Proceedings (you do NOT need to attend the conference to have
your paper included in the Proceedings). The submission deadline is July
31, 2009. Please send papers to:

Maty Weinberg
ARRL
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111

or you can make your submission via e-mail to: m...@arrl.org

Papers will be published exactly as submitted and authors will retain
all rights.

73 . . . Steve, WB8IMY
ARRL





Re: [digitalradio] Mars system

2009-03-31 Thread Raymond Lunsford
I can't twell exact but start at 4.0 and go up at 2100 local time or
0700 local USB.Let me k now how it turns out and I'll get you started
intMars.Ray,nnn0evtAKA K4YDI

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:05 AM, n0alo n0...@kans.com wrote:
 Greetings
 I have seen some messages about the Mars system using MT-63 etc. I have been
 considering
 joing the Navy Mars but would like to monitor some first.
 Can anyone tell me the frequencys where I can find them.
 Thanks
 Lynn
 RMC USN Ret.

 


Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Rein Couperus
http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/
http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers
http://www.freelists.org/archive/pskmail

73,

Rein PA0R

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.com
 Gesendet: 31.03.09 16:06:37
 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?


 Andy, that band and frequency can I find a PSKmail server station, 
 I'm trying to get pskmail to Rec. Is there a PSKmail group that I can 
 look into.
 Now I'm on 30m 10.148.50 and I hear some Pactor station.
 
 Russell 
 
 Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats 
 why its called the PRESENT!
 
  IN GOD WE TRUST  
 
 Russell Blair (NC5O)
 Skype-Russell.Blair
 Hell Field #300
 DRCC #55
 30m Dig-group #693
 
 --- On  *Tue, 3/31/09, Andy obrien *k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
 Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
 To: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:17 AM
 
 Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
 thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
 America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 

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[digitalradio] Another what is this mode question

2009-03-31 Thread jhaynesatalumni
I was listening to some stuff last night on 40M, and it was clearly
500 Hz wide and about 16 discrete tones, but it was not Olivia and
I couldn't find anything else that would decode it either.  Tried
Contestia and RTTYM and various settings of Thor and DominoEX.
The signals looked and sounded a bit different from Olivia - with
Olivia the spots on the waterfall seem to be more or less random,
whereas with the mystery signal they seemed to be more clustered
around a frequency a little below the center of the group.  And
seemed to have more of a pattern to them.

Jim W6JVE




RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread John Bradley
PSKmail would gain a lot more traction if there was a windows version.  Some
of us can't , or don't want to get our heads around linux.

It is just another variable in my limited computer skills

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of pa0r
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:52 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

 

The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com
, Sholto Fisher sho...@... wrote:

 Russell,
 
 MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
 http://hflink.com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
 throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
 received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
 
 Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
 for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
 external/expensive proprietary modem.
 
 In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
 problem but it's still in development.
 
 As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
 PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
 
 For high volume or non-amateur commercial email you would be better 
 thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
 Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
 
 73 Sholto
 K7TMG
 
 Russell Blair wrote:
  
  
  
  We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
  my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
  I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this

  to happen, any help ?
  
  Russell
  
  Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
  its called the PRESENT!
  
   IN GOD WE TRUST 
  
  Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell. Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693
  
 






Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Rick W
Since so few hams need to install servers, perhaps this could be one of 
the rare exceptions where some of us might consider actually dedicating 
a computer to Linux, for this special application? Most hams here in the 
U.S. would likely be accessing the server with a MS Windows based OS as 
that becomes available.

If PSKmail became popular, we might need a fair number of servers, 
although some could be on standby. If I understand PSKmail correctly, it 
is possible to set up ad hoc servers as needed. You do not have the 
centralized politics that is done by design with other systems. 
Individuals and groups use their independent judgment when and where 
placement is made for a server. For example, some servers could be on 
standby and be activated for an emergency situation.

You could also use MF and NVIS type operation that is not done much with 
other systems although it may require a better protocol than PSK for 
consistent results.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Andy obrien wrote:
 Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ?  I
 thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
 America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

 Andy K3UK

   



Re: [digitalradio] Re: Paclink and KPC3+

2009-03-31 Thread kg4vub
Hey Doug,

Suggest taking your issue to the PaclinkMP group. Someone there may be
able to answer your question that isn't signed up on this group.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PaclinkMP/

I'm confused about your comment of waiting to power on the TNC after
the comm port is open. The TNC should be powered on before you start
Paclink.

Also, make sure your TNC is not still in newuser mode.

Tom

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:46 PM, dougjustham dougjust...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Did fresh reinstall and still had issues.  Accidentally had KPC#+ off when 
 starting the connect process and turned it on after the Paclink displayed 
 Comm Port Open  and it set up fine.  I tried over and over again and it 
 seems to work fine if I wait to power the TNC on after the comm port is open.


 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, VE3FAL-Fred flesn...@... wrote:

 We experienced the same thing this weekend at our EOC center, we are also 
 going to do a fresh install and setup.

 Fred
 VE3FAL
 VE3ONN Ontario North ARES E.O.C

 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:21:04 -
   dougjustham dougjust...@... wrote:
  Has anyone had issues using Paclink with a KPC3+?
 
  All seemed fine for about 3 connects, but now Paclink can't talk to the 
  TNC. I can talk to the TNC just fine with Hyper Terminal
 and Winlink and all are set to 9600 baud.  Will do a re-istall to see how 
 that goes, but curious if anyone else experienced
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Rein,

If I understand this correctly,  I access my own email providers' pop
server with PSKmail. How does the system secure my email password when I
am connecting to the pop server ?


73 de LA5VNA Steinar





pa0r wrote:
 The difference is:

 for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

 PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
 interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

 73,

 Rein PA0R

 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher sho...@... wrote:
   
 Russell,

 MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
 http://hflink.com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
 throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
 received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.

 Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
 for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
 external/expensive proprietary modem.

 In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
 problem but it's still in development.

 As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
 PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?

 For high volume or non-amateur commercial email you would be better 
 thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
 Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.

 73 Sholto
 K7TMG

 Russell Blair wrote:
 

 We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
 my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
 I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
 to happen, any help ?

 Russell

 Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
 its called the PRESENT!

  IN GOD WE TRUST 

 Russell Blair (NC5O)
 Skype-Russell. Blair
 Hell Field #300
 DRCC #55
 30m Dig-group #693


   



   




Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread Per
There is a java version that you can run on windows (xp, vista, whatever), mac 
and linux.
Its dead easy to set up (just unzip).

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:57:14 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF


PSKmail would gain a lot more traction if there was a windows
version.  Some of us can’t , or don’t want to get our heads around linux.
It is just another variable in my limited computer skills
 
John
VE5MU
 
From:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] 
On Behalf
Of pa0r
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:52 AM
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
 
The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com,
Sholto Fisher sho...@... wrote:

 Russell,
 
 MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
 http://hflink. com) which are generally
accessible on most HF bands 
 throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
 received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
 
 Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
 for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
 external/expensive proprietary modem.
 
 In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
 problem but it's still in development.
 
 As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
 PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
 
 For high volume or non-amateur commercial email you would be
better 
 thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
 Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
 
 73 Sholto
 K7TMG
 
 Russell Blair wrote:
  
  
  
  We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to
check 
  my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF
that 
  I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for
this 
  to happen, any help ?
  
  Russell
  
  Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats
why 
  its called the PRESENT!
  
   IN GOD WE TRUST 
  
  Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell. Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693
  
 

   


  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread Per
Hi Steinar,

Its stored at the pskmail server, you do not send it over the air when you 
access your email account.
You can, however, update the settings that the server has for you over the air. 
Its also possible to have
the server sysop enter your details in the local database.

73 de Per, sm0rwo








From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:18:47 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF


Hi Rein,

If I understand this correctly,  I access my own email providers' pop
server with PSKmail. How does the system secure my email password when I
am connecting to the pop server ?

73 de LA5VNA Steinar

pa0r wrote:
 The difference is:

 for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

 PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
 interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

 73,

 Rein PA0R

 --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher sho...@... wrote:
 
 Russell,

 MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
 http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
 throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
 received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.

 Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
 for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
 external/expensive proprietary modem.

 In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
 problem but it's still in development.

 As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
 PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?

 For high volume or non-amateur commercial email you would be better 
 thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
 Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.

 73 Sholto
 K7TMG

 Russell Blair wrote:
 

 We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
 my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
 I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
 to happen, any help ?

 Russell

 Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
 its called the PRESENT!

  IN GOD WE TRUST 

 Russell Blair (NC5O)
 Skype-Russell. Blair
 Hell Field #300
 DRCC #55
 30m Dig-group #693


 



 


   


  

Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Russell Blair

Tnx I will take a look into these list

Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693


--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com wrote:

 From: Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 10:33 AM
 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/
 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers
 http://www.freelists.org/archive/pskmail
 
 73,
 
 Rein PA0R
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Russell Blair
 russell_blai...@yahoo.com
  Gesendet: 31.03.09 16:06:37
  An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows
 server?
 
 
  Andy, that band and frequency can I find a PSKmail
 server station, 
  I'm trying to get pskmail to Rec. Is there a
 PSKmail group that I can 
  look into.
  Now I'm on 30m 10.148.50 and I hear some Pactor
 station.
  
  Russell 
  
  Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is
 a GIFT! Thats 
  why its called the PRESENT!
  
   IN GOD WE TRUST  
  
  Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693
  
  --- On  *Tue, 3/31/09, Andy obrien
 *k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
  From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
  Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
  To: digitalradio
 digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:17 AM
  
  Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based
 only ? I
  thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more
 servers in North
  America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
  
  Andy K3UK
  
  
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread Steinar Aanesland

Hi Per

I have sent you a direct mail to your mail address : n59...@yahoo.com

73 de LA5VNA Steinar



Per wrote:
 Hi Steinar,

 Its stored at the pskmail server, you do not send it over the air when you 
 access your email account.
 You can, however, update the settings that the server has for you over the 
 air. Its also possible to have
 the server sysop enter your details in the local database.

 73 de Per, sm0rwo







 
 From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:18:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF


 Hi Rein,

 If I understand this correctly,  I access my own email providers' pop
 server with PSKmail. How does the system secure my email password when I
 am connecting to the pop server ?

 73 de LA5VNA Steinar

 pa0r wrote:
   
 The difference is:

 for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

 PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
 interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

 73,

 Rein PA0R

 --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher sho...@... wrote:

 
 Russell,

 MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
 http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
 throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
 received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.

 Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
 for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
 external/expensive proprietary modem.

 In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
 problem but it's still in development.

 As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
 PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?

 For high volume or non-amateur commercial email you would be better 
 thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
 Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.

 73 Sholto
 K7TMG

 Russell Blair wrote:

   
 We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
 my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
 I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
 to happen, any help ?

 Russell

 Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
 its called the PRESENT!

  IN GOD WE TRUST 

 Russell Blair (NC5O)
 Skype-Russell. Blair
 Hell Field #300
 DRCC #55
 30m Dig-group #693



 


 





   
   




Re: [digitalradio] Another what is this mode question

2009-03-31 Thread Mike Blazek
Hi, Jim:

Might have been MFSK16?

Mike N5UKZ

jhaynesatalumni wrote:

 I was listening to some stuff last night on 40M, and it was clearly
 500 Hz wide and about 16 discrete tones, but it was not Olivia and
 I couldn't find anything else that would decode it either. Tried
 Contestia and RTTYM and various settings of Thor and DominoEX.
 The signals looked and sounded a bit different from Olivia - with
 Olivia the spots on the waterfall seem to be more or less random,
 whereas with the mystery signal they seemed to be more clustered
 around a frequency a little below the center of the group. And
 seemed to have more of a pattern to them.

 Jim W6JVE

 



Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Russell Blair
Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a server 
your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net wrote:

From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 11:02 AM






Since so few hams need to install servers, perhaps this could be one of 
the rare exceptions where some of us might consider actually dedicating 
a computer to Linux, for this special application? Most hams here in the 
U.S. would likely be accessing the server with a MS Windows based OS as 
that becomes available.

If PSKmail became popular, we might need a fair number of servers, 
although some could be on standby. If I understand PSKmail correctly, it 
is possible to set up ad hoc servers as needed. You do not have the 
centralized politics that is done by design with other systems. 
Individuals and groups use their independent judgment when and where 
placement is made for a server. For example, some servers could be on 
standby and be activated for an emergency situation.

You could also use MF and NVIS type operation that is not done much with 
other systems although it may require a better protocol than PSK for 
consistent results.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Andy obrien wrote:
 Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
 thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
 America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

 Andy K3UK

 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Stelios Bounanos
 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0200, Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com 
 said:

 Yes, the server is linux only at the moment. Ultimate goal is to use a 
 LAMP server without a GUI in future, but fldigi needs the GUI :)

Fldigi needs an X11 display (on Linux/FreeBSD), which makes it
non-straightforward to use in server mode.  But it's possible
with a fake X server such as Xvfb.  Excerpt from Xvfb(1):

  Xvfb is an X server that can run on machines with no display hardware
  and no physical input devices. It emulates a dumb framebuffer using
  virtual memory.

Here's how you'd use it with fldigi:

  ssh remote-host
  Xvfb -ac :99 
  fldigi -display :99 

Debian (and I expect Ubuntu as well) has a convenient shell script
wrapper for this, xvfb-run:

  xvfb-run fldigi -display :99

This ssh command runs fldigi on a remote host and also forwards fldigi's
xml-rpc port so that you can then control it with fldigi-shell (or other
client):

  ssh -L 7362:localhost:7362 remote-host xvfb-run fldigi -display :99

You could in addition forward port 7322 to tunnel the ARQ connection so
that the pskmail server can be run locally.

I'm guessing that you manage the remote pskmail server and fldigi using
VNC.  If that's only because you need to interact with fldigi, you may
find that the xml-rpc interface has all you need, and that you can use
the above method to simplify the setup somewhat.  A headless fldigi
can be very useful; for example you could run a fldigi/pskmail server
on a Marvell SheevaPlug or a Beagle Board.

Take a look at the xml-rpc methods (fldigi --xmlrpc-list) and let us
know if there's anything that could be added for pskmail.  The main
thing that's missing right now is functions to change RTTY and Olivia
parameters (I plan to add them RSN), but I don't think pskmail uses
these modems.


73,
Stelios, M0GLD.


Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Rein Couperus
Tnx Stelios... that is very good news, I was not aware of the 
Xvfb server. Some reading necssary.
Most pskmail servers are indeed run headless, and remote controlled via VNC.
Once they are running they need no maintenance, and the GUI 
uses resources which are unnecessary for the function they perform...

Tnx again, some more experimenting to do :)

Rein PA0R

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Stelios Bounanos digra...@enotty.net
 Gesendet: 31.03.09 19:45:04
 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 CC: Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com
 Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


  On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0200, Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com 
  said:
 
  Yes, the server is linux only at the moment. Ultimate goal is to use a 
  LAMP server without a GUI in future, but fldigi needs the GUI :)
 
 Fldigi needs an X11 display (on Linux/FreeBSD), which makes it
 non-straightforward to use in server mode.  But it's possible
 with a fake X server such as Xvfb.  Excerpt from Xvfb(1):
 
   Xvfb is an X server that can run on machines with no display hardware
   and no physical input devices. It emulates a dumb framebuffer using
   virtual memory.
 
 Here's how you'd use it with fldigi:
 
   ssh remote-host
   Xvfb -ac :99 
   fldigi -display :99 
 
 Debian (and I expect Ubuntu as well) has a convenient shell script
 wrapper for this, xvfb-run:
 
   xvfb-run fldigi -display :99
 
 This ssh command runs fldigi on a remote host and also forwards fldigi's
 xml-rpc port so that you can then control it with fldigi-shell (or other
 client):
 
   ssh -L 7362:localhost:7362 remote-host xvfb-run fldigi -display :99
 
 You could in addition forward port 7322 to tunnel the ARQ connection so
 that the pskmail server can be run locally.
 
 I'm guessing that you manage the remote pskmail server and fldigi using
 VNC.  If that's only because you need to interact with fldigi, you may
 find that the xml-rpc interface has all you need, and that you can use
 the above method to simplify the setup somewhat.  A headless fldigi
 can be very useful; for example you could run a fldigi/pskmail server
 on a Marvell SheevaPlug or a Beagle Board.
 
 Take a look at the xml-rpc methods (fldigi --xmlrpc-list) and let us
 know if there's anything that could be added for pskmail.  The main
 thing that's missing right now is functions to change RTTY and Olivia
 parameters (I plan to add them RSN), but I don't think pskmail uses
 these modems.
 
 
 73,
 Stelios, M0GLD.
 
 
 
 
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[digitalradio] Re: Another what is this mode question

2009-03-31 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mike Blazek mbla...@... wrote:

 Hi, Jim:
 
 Might have been MFSK16?
 
 Mike N5UKZ
 
Nope, MFSK16 is much narrower than 500 Hz.  And I tried MFSK32
with no results.




Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Rick W
I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a resurgence of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
 server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.




Re: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread Kristoff Bonne
Hi All,


Russell Blair schreef:
 We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check my 
 mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that I can 
 check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this to happen, 
 any help ?
   
You know. I once saw a TV-documentory on this, and more particular on
communication and life for people living on the small poor
islands-nations of the pacific ocean.

They used some kind of HF-radio based system to sent messages from
post-offices located on certain islands to other Islands. I never
found what system they where actually using. All information I found on
the net is either aimed at hams or emergency communications, or for
(rich) owners of yachts.

Does anybody know if these systems are used by PTTs in the world?



BTW. According the documantory, the main problem for these
island-nations was not really the technology and equipement, but find a
good secure electricity-system which -by preference- is not dependent on
(to be imported, so very expensive) petroleum.


Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.

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RE: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread Rud Merriam
On article about HF email in Africa is at
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6299. I remembered it but not the
details so Google africa hf email. There are some other search results
you might want to read. 

 
 - 73 - 
Rud Merriam K5RUD 
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://TheHamNetwork.net


 -Original Message-
 From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bo...@skypro.be] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:52 PM
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 
 Russell Blair schreef:
  We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would 
 like to check 
  my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on 
 the HF that I can check into and get my mail, and what 
 program would I need for this to happen, any help ?

 You know. I once saw a TV-documentory on this, and more 
 particular on communication and life for people living on the 
 small poor islands-nations of the pacific ocean.
 
 They used some kind of HF-radio based system to sent messages 
 from post-offices located on certain islands to other 
 Islands. I never found what system they where actually using. 
 All information I found on the net is either aimed at hams or 
 emergency communications, or for
 (rich) owners of yachts.
 
 Does anybody know if these systems are used by PTTs in the world?
 
 
 
 BTW. According the documantory, the main problem for these 
 island-nations was not really the technology and equipement, 
 but find a good secure electricity-system which -by 
 preference- is not dependent on (to be imported, so very 
 expensive) petroleum.
 
 
 Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
 
 -- 
 jabber/gtalk: krist...@krbonne.net
 
 



Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Russell Blair
Rick, Thanks for you responce to my mail.
 
Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net wrote:

From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:23 PM






I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a resurgence of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
 server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.


















  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Per
Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying Hi KV9U, pse update your record is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a resurgence of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
 server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.



   


  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Another what is this mode question

2009-03-31 Thread Andy obrien
What frequency was this mode?


[digitalradio] Re: Another what is this mode question

2009-03-31 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:

 What frequency was this mode?

Oh, about 7073.  There was an Olivia signal nearby, which made
it easy to see that the displays were different.  Olivia looks
more random, like snowfall, whereas this signal seemed to have
a pattern to it.



Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Toby Burnett
Wish someone would set up a UK server for testing purposes at least, could
get on 7Mhz or 3.5Mhz.  Would be ideal. I've never managed to connect with
the Swedish /  German servers yet. Must be doing something wrong!!  Using
JPSKMAIL RX is fine with Fldigi but never connects. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Andy obrien
Date: 31/03/2009 13:19:31
To: digitalradio
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
 
Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

Andy K3UK


 newimage.jpg

[digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Anyone using PC- HFDL?  What are active frequencies to monitor ?

Andy K3UK 



Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread Andy obrien
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Tony, I will add those.

 Andy K3UK

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 Andy,
 Here are a few:
 6661 3428 6532 10081 KHz.
 Tony -K2MO



Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...

 AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
 LON 70 9 3  W

Cool.

Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread Andy obrien
It works very nicely with Google Earth.  6661 is very active right
now,  click on the link below for a screen shot.

http://www.obriensweb.com/planes.jpg


Nice reception on that band



Andy K3UK


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Tony, I will add those.

 Andy K3UK

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 Andy,
 Here are a few:
 6661 3428 6532 10081 KHz.
 Tony -K2MO



 Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...

  AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
  LON 70 9 3  W

 Cool.

 Andy K3UK



Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I sure hope you would. That station is in New York.
Should see a lot from that and 11,387.

John, W0JAB




Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...

 AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
 LON 70 9 3  W

Cool.

Andy K3UK



RE: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread John Bradley
winlink2000 using pactor RMS stations are an option, not a cheap option but
viable under all propagation.

check out http://www.winlink.org/ for more info 

John
VE5MU

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kristoff Bonne
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:52 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

Hi All,


Russell Blair schreef:
 We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check my
mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that I can
check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this to
happen, any help ?
   
You know. I once saw a TV-documentory on this, and more particular on
communication and life for people living on the small poor islands-nations
of the pacific ocean.

They used some kind of HF-radio based system to sent messages from
post-offices located on certain islands to other Islands. I never found
what system they where actually using. All information I found on the net is
either aimed at hams or emergency communications, or for
(rich) owners of yachts.

Does anybody know if these systems are used by PTTs in the world?



BTW. According the documantory, the main problem for these island-nations
was not really the technology and equipement, but find a good secure
electricity-system which -by preference- is not dependent on (to be
imported, so very expensive) petroleum.


Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.

--
jabber/gtalk: krist...@krbonne.net




Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread Andy obrien
I assume that this is what you mean,


Ground Station ID 4
RIVERHEAD - NEW YORK
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 72 38 22  W  Latitude 40 52 47  N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 20
Frequency 21934000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 21931000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 17952000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 17934000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 17919000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 13276000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 11387000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 11354000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 11315000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 10027000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 8912000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 8885000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 8831000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 6661000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 6652000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 6646000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 5652000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 5523000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 3428000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 341 Hz Master Frame Slot 9


So, this is rebroadcast from a fixed station, not the plane ?

Andy K3Uk





On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:44 PM, John Becker, WØJAB
 w0...@big-river.net wrote:
 I sure hope you would. That station is in New York.
 Should see a lot from that and 11,387.

 John, W0JAB



 When you say That station is in New York., what do you mean?

 Andy



Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Russell Blair
I have been ping ing for the past few hours and had no responce fro a server 
station, I am to close the WB5COM he is in Texas as well. but I will keep 
trying, question ping duration and contents is where in the program ?. Mine my 
be to short and has no message, but what is being Tx is my call, I think
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Per n59...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Per n59...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:05 PM








Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying Hi KV9U, pse update your record is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet. net
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?



I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a resurgence of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
 server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.



















  

Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread Andy obrien
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:44 PM, John Becker, WØJAB
w0...@big-river.net wrote:
 I sure hope you would. That station is in New York.
 Should see a lot from that and 11,387.

 John, W0JAB



When you say That station is in New York., what do you mean?

Andy


[digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread Andrew O'Brien
John VE5MU, I want to make sure that you saw that message about PSKMAIL indeed 
being available in Windows/Java?

Andy K3UK



Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-03-31 Thread Russell Blair
Sri, my pinging is on 10.148 USB BPSK250.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Per n59...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Per n59...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:05 PM








Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying Hi KV9U, pse update your record is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet. net
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?



I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a resurgence of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
 server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.



















  

RE: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread Fred VE3FAL
I used to use OC-HFDL by Charles Brain, what is a good software to use for
ACARS and HFDL that does not cost an arm and a leg now..


Fred
VE3FAL

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andy obrien
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:44 PM
To: digitalradio
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

It works very nicely with Google Earth.  6661 is very active right
now,  click on the link below for a screen shot.

http://www.obriensweb.com/planes.jpg


Nice reception on that band



Andy K3UK


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Tony, I will add those.

 Andy K3UK

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 Andy,
 Here are a few:
 6661 3428 6532 10081 KHz.
 Tony -K2MO



 Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...

  AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
  LON 70 9 3  W

 Cool.

 Andy K3UK





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Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-03-31 Thread Andy obrien
I am using PC-HFDL, unlicenced.  It costs US$35.00 for a licence.

Andy K3UK



On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Fred VE3FAL flesn...@tbaytel.net wrote:
 I used to use OC-HFDL by Charles Brain, what is a good software to use for
 ACARS and HFDL that does not cost an arm and a leg now..

 Fred
 VE3FAL



[digitalradio] popular software

2009-03-31 Thread ww6aa
i am new to dig.radio and apologize for asking a question that i am sure has 
been answered many times, but search came up with 1000 replies.  What software 
seems to be most popular @ this time



[digitalradio] Re: popular software

2009-03-31 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, ww6aa ww...@... wrote:

 i am new to dig.radio and apologize for asking a question that i am sure has 
 been answered many times, but search came up with 1000 replies.  What 
 software seems to be most popular @ this time


Welcome..

I would say that Winwarbler, DM780, Multipsk, and FLDIGI are the most used, at 
least based on what I see mentioned when in a digital QSO.  MixW too.

Andy K3UK



[digitalradio] Re: popular software

2009-03-31 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, ww6aa ww...@... wrote:

 i am new to dig.radio and apologize for asking a question that i am sure has 
 been answered many times, but search came up with 1000 replies.  What 
 software seems to be most popular @ this time

You mean today?  Or last week?

Seriously, a lot of people get started in digital radio with
Digipan and PSK31 on Windows.  Or do RTTY with MMTTY and Windows.

Then many move on to multimode programs.  I've been talking to
lots of hams lately who use HRD Ham Radio Deluxe with DM780.
Haven't tried it yet myself.  I've been using MultiPSK, which
has a pretty intimidating user interface but does an awful lot
of modes if you want to try them all.  I still occasionally
talk to people using MixW.

Then there is fldigi, which is one of my personal favorites,
mainly because it does a lot of modes and works under Linux and
Windows both.  I prefer Linux but keep Windows around so I can
run the software that doesn't work under Linux.

Jim W6JVE



RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-03-31 Thread John Bradley
I didn't . must have got lost in the linux :}

 

I'll google it . So is this a true windows software, or one where I have to
reboot my computer using gopher or prairie dog or some other

linux on a disc?

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:21 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

 

John VE5MU, I want to make sure that you saw that message about PSKMAIL
indeed being available in Windows/Java?

Andy K3UK





[digitalradio] New ALE Yahoogroup

2009-03-31 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I have decided to start a yahoo group specific to ALE.  There is already a 
Yahoo Group that is dedicated to PC-ALE in the form of HFLINK.  This site is 
full of many very helpful hams but   I am frustrated by the almost clandestine 
approach that this Yahoo group takes.  The group is heavily moderated and 
access to PC-ALE requires membership to the yahoo group.  While the owner of 
that group is free to run their group in any way they want,  I feel that this 
approach is simply stifling the growth of ALE on HF and essentially making ALE 
via PC-ALE a private ham mode under control of one ham.

I hope that one day the HFLINK will have less restrictive , more public domain, 
practices and an Open ALE Yahoo Group will not be required.

The new group is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ALEradio

Discussion of ALE for hams and SWL's using PC-ALE and/pr Multipsk