Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-22 Thread David Thompson via Elecraft

On 9/17/2023 6:16 AM, Larry (K8UT) wrote:

One of my favorite Dilbert videos - when mom discovers her son has "the 
knack"."


I love that clip! It makes me laugh every time. (Yes, I am an engineer...)

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-18 Thread Alan Bloom



On 9/17/23 23:05, John Gay wrote:

...
  Not much later I’d taught myself to solder and built a Knightkit Star Roamer.


Ah yes, the Star Roamer, my first "real" receiver.  (The actual first 
was a homebrew 1-tube regen.)


I feel like one of the Old Timers when I was young talking about their 
spark transmitters.  :-)


Alan N1AL

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-17 Thread John Gay
I owe my interest to an unknown person, likely a ham. When I was around 11 I 
found an Allied Radio and a Lafayette Radio catalog in an abandoned 
homesteaders cabin on the family ranch that some hunters had left behind after 
using it for shelter during the Montana deer hunting season. Old catalogs often 
served as TP in such circumstances. Until then I had no idea shortwave radio 
existed and being a little remote, we had just gotten REA. In went bingo cards 
for current catalogs.
 Not much later I’d taught myself to solder and built a Knightkit Star Roamer. 
Even joined the ARRL as an associate. But no one to work with me on the code; 
the one local ham I could find refused. 
Then as a GE freshman, the EE demo was really boring (the microchip revolution 
hadn’t hit the curriculum yet) so ME it was but engineering never the less. And 
more career changes ahead.

73,
John K7JG

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-17 Thread Larry (K8UT)
One of my favorite Dilbert videos - when mom discovers her son has "the 
knack"."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zee9HV7c11E

-larry (K8UT)


-- Original Message --

From "Nate Bargmann" 

To elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date 9/16/2023 22:09:44
Subject Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an 
engineer



* On 2023 16 Sep 13:24 -0500, jerry wrote:

 On 2023-09-15 17:31, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 > I was 8 years old.

 *** I've been trying to interest my 9 year old in electronics & radio.  Am
 leveraging his love for making things.  Which
 mostly is alas focused on Legos.


Don't push too hard.  Even though dad fixed some TVs up until I was six
or seven, I didn't gain an interest in electronics until after high
school at age 17.  As a youth I had Lego, Tinker Toys, and Erector Sets.
All were educational in various ways.

Exposure to various hands-on things will let him find what he likes.
Even simple computer programming will be beneficial.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-17 Thread David Wilcox via Elecraft
Jerry,

One way to interest a son in radio and electronics expose him to others of his 
age that are interested and playing with it.  Possibly a call to a local scout 
master to see if he has any charges that have a similar interest.  

Sometimes it takes a few years. I exposed my secretary’s sons to electronics 
and SWLing when they were teenagers and 30 years later when they had their 
families and jobs stabilized they rediscovered ham radio and became licensed.

The best thing you are doing is something together with radio. My father was 
interested but never became licensed, BUT he took me to other hams homes and 
they showed me what they had and how it worked. And our family doctor was a ham 
and took me under tow. I became a family doctor AND a ham….. and Dad bought two 
Philmore radio kits and a one tube battery operated kit that I myself built.  A 
neighborhood kid was a ham and another ham lived across the street.  As I got 
older we made part 15 one transistor transmitters and sent CW around the 
neighborhood.  

It never stopped after that. Even in college and Med school there was always 
someone that had a ham rig in a closet somewhere and I borrowed it and got on 
the air.  On the air since 1960.

Dave K8WPE

David J. Wilcox’s iPad

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 2:25 PM, jerry  wrote:
> 
> On 2023-09-15 17:31, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> I was 8 years old.
> 
> *** I've been trying to interest my 9 year old in electronics & radio.  Am 
> leveraging his love for making things.  Which
> mostly is alas focused on Legos.
> 
>   When the COVID hit, I immediately got on Amazon and ordered the biggest, 
> most elaborate "snap circuits" kit.  It was sort
> of a bust.  He did a few of them and lost interest.  The trouble with snap 
> circuits is that the elaborate ones - the ones that
> do interesting things - depend on ICs that they have packaged up.  Black 
> boxes that hide all the fun.  Also, for some strange
> reason, Snap Circuits doesn't use schematics in their workbooks.
> 
>   I like the old Radio Shack multi-project kits better, and I got him the 
> last-biggest one that they made.  Actual
> schematics.
> 
>   I had him build a Velleman kit that I had laying around.  He was scared of 
> the soldering iron.  I said "just don't touch
> the metal part" :).
> 
>- Jerry, KF6VB
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread Jim Brown

On 9/16/2023 7:09 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

Don't push too hard.  Even though dad fixed some TVs up until I was six
or seven, I didn't gain an interest in electronics until after high
school at age 17.  As a youth I had Lego, Tinker Toys, and Erector Sets.
All were educational in various ways.

Exposure to various hands-on things will let him find what he likes.


Great advice, Nate. I exposed my kids to lots of things and let them 
figure out if they wanted more. I've watched many other parents do the 
same, and their kids have all turned out pretty happy!


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 16 Sep 13:24 -0500, jerry wrote:
> On 2023-09-15 17:31, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > I was 8 years old.
> 
> *** I've been trying to interest my 9 year old in electronics & radio.  Am
> leveraging his love for making things.  Which
> mostly is alas focused on Legos.

Don't push too hard.  Even though dad fixed some TVs up until I was six
or seven, I didn't gain an interest in electronics until after high
school at age 17.  As a youth I had Lego, Tinker Toys, and Erector Sets.
All were educational in various ways.

Exposure to various hands-on things will let him find what he likes.
Even simple computer programming will be beneficial.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread John Magliacane via Elecraft
 On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 08:35:40 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick 
 wrote:

> I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 8-Note 
> Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.

Sounds like one of their P-Box kits. When I was around the same age, my Father 
bought the 3-transistor regenerative Short-Wave Radio Kit. A listing of the 
P-Box kits can be found here: http://my.core.com/~sparktron/pbox.html

My Father was a Fireman, so there was no way he would trust me with a soldering 
iron at such a young age. Instead, he ended up building the kit himself while I 
watched with great interest.

He wound several coils so the receiver could receive several ham bands as he 
was trying to spark an interest in Amateur Radio, but I don't ever recall 
hearing any hams with the receiver, just the typical short-wave broadcasts of 
the time.

Several years later, he ended up taking the receiver away from me because the 
radiated broadband noise interfered with his Swan 500CX. :-)

It didn't matter much to me anyway as I never heard much with it. But it was 
every educational in the sense that the frequency range of the receiver was 
dictated by the size of the coil wound by the builder. Eventually he gave me 
his old Hammarlund HQ-140-X, so I hardly ever missed that old Radio Shack regen.

Interestingly enough, there's a modernized version of the receiver that employs 
silicon transistors (2N3904 and 2N3906s) instead of the original germanium 
jobs. Details can be found here: 
http://www.netzener.net/images/swradio/swradio.pdf

And that old Hammarlund lives on to this day after I "solid-stated it" not long 
after becoming a ham 40 years ago.


73 de John, KD2BD
  
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread Dave Kelley

Oops. I have been licensed 46 years, not 56. Not that I'm showing my age.

On 9/16/2023 2:02 PM, Dave Kelley wrote:


Very similar story to mine. When I was 8 years old, my parents gave me a
crystal radio kit for Christmas 1972. I built it, ran the antenna wire
to a tree outside, and could hear only Top-40 radio from the AM station
that was about half a mile away. It was magical. I fell in love with
radio to a background of Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone," Carol
King's "It's Too Late," Elton John's "Rocket Man," and Hot Butter's
"Popcorn." (Does anyone remember the last one?)

I've now been licensed for 56 years and teach electrical engineering at
a small university. No regrets and a lot of happiness.

Thanks for a great story, Wayne.

73,
Dave
ND3K (ex-NB4J)



-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick 
Sent: Sep 15, 2023 7:33 PM

I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair
8-Note Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.

That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was
unheard of. I remember Dad looming over me in his green bathrobe,
smiling, saying it was OK to say up late just this once. He could see I
was in flow. Perhaps that validated his experiment.

The organ worked the first time I connected the 9 V battery. But I had
an ear for music, and after running through the notes, I could tell some
were mis-tuned.

Undaunted, I looked at the schematic and saw resistors. One per note.
That had to be the problem.

Thanks to Heathkit I had learned the color code that very morning. I
also had a box full of resistors I'd scavenged from old radios and TVs.
(Why?) I started sticking old resistors in parallel or series with the
shiny new ones until I had the notes all in tune, at least by ear.

At last I finished the job by bending the leads of the motley, oversized
resistors until they all fit in the bottom of the plastic perf-board
enclosure. Presentation was everything. (How did I know that?)

I proudly demonstrated the hacked organ for my parents, then for my
older sister, who was taking piano lessons.

At best I got my hair ruffled. But still: that was the day.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread Karl W Hubbard via Elecraft
 Oh those days. I got my first crystal radio with the co,  stylus, and crystal 
back in 1966 but could only get one of the super giant AM radio stations, WKBW, 
 out of Buffalo NY spewing 50,000 watts on 1520 from the towers about 5 miles 
away. 
Having a problem with my KX3 in that with my KPA100 putting out 100W on a 
Buckmaster 10-80M  OCFD, 100foot center coax feedline. I can hear people but 
they can never hear me, even when they announce they are running barefoot on 
100W also, 20m during day and 40 and 80 at night. Gave up on the Elecraft 3.784 
Sunday 9:00 PM Net.  Last night, when I tried to transmit on JS8Call, I got a 
reply on my Windows 11  computer  with SignaLink that there was an "error with  
the audio input." The Notification Sound card output speakers , Input 
Microphone, and Output speakers on the JS8Call setup were reset to the previous 
USB Audio Codec.  It eliminated the error message but still no responses. 
Somehow the Codecs might have changed and I corrected the problem (I hope)? But 
strangely still no acknowledgement or reply from my heart beat inquiry and 
reply requests on JS8Call. This isn't a problem with the KX3 is it?
Also. will the KPA 100 ever suddenly switch on its own  from antenna 1 to 
antenna 2?  I now  keep a 100W dummy load on the unused one.
The KPA100 indicates 90-100 Watts on its lighted  linear meter during 
transmission. Is this reliable to confirm actual output/transmission to the 
antenna? Or should I join the club of those who get those watt meters to 
measure the actual power being sent out during transmission? Not for SWR, as I 
have a Rig Expert AA600 for that.
Got a notice from DxEngineering today that the 3000Watt capable Buckmaster 
10-80 M antenna is now back in stock for $311.00. I can't go vertical and not 
enough space for traditional dipole for 40 and 80 meters.  I've thought about 
just going ahead and getting a K4 and KPA1500 to end my frustration, even 
though I am essentially still a novice.  Sheer brute force to make things 
happen as with back in my college wrestling and football days. 
73'sKarl AF5LQOn Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 02:03:53 PM EDT, Dave 
Kelley  wrote:  
 
 Very similar story to mine. When I was 8 years old, my parents gave me a 
crystal radio kit for Christmas 1972. I built it, ran the antenna wire 
to a tree outside, and could hear only Top-40 radio from the AM station 
that was about half a mile away. It was magical. I fell in love with 
radio to a background of Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone," Carol 
King's "It's Too Late," Elton John's "Rocket Man," and Hot Butter's 
"Popcorn." (Does anyone remember the last one?)

I've now been licensed for 56 years and teach electrical engineering at 
a small university. No regrets and a lot of happiness.

Thanks for a great story, Wayne.

73,
Dave
ND3K (ex-NB4J)



-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick 
Sent: Sep 15, 2023 7:33 PM

I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 
8-Note Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.

That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was 
unheard of. I remember Dad looming over me in his green bathrobe, 
smiling, saying it was OK to say up late just this once. He could see I 
was in flow. Perhaps that validated his experiment.

The organ worked the first time I connected the 9 V battery. But I had 
an ear for music, and after running through the notes, I could tell some 
were mis-tuned.

Undaunted, I looked at the schematic and saw resistors. One per note. 
That had to be the problem.

Thanks to Heathkit I had learned the color code that very morning. I 
also had a box full of resistors I'd scavenged from old radios and TVs. 
(Why?) I started sticking old resistors in parallel or series with the 
shiny new ones until I had the notes all in tune, at least by ear.

At last I finished the job by bending the leads of the motley, oversized 
resistors until they all fit in the bottom of the plastic perf-board 
enclosure. Presentation was everything. (How did I know that?)

I proudly demonstrated the hacked organ for my parents, then for my 
older sister, who was taking piano lessons.

At best I got my hair ruffled. But still: that was the day.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread jerry

On 2023-09-15 17:31, Wayne Burdick wrote:

I was 8 years old.


*** I've been trying to interest my 9 year old in electronics & radio.  
Am leveraging his love for making things.  Which

mostly is alas focused on Legos.

   When the COVID hit, I immediately got on Amazon and ordered the 
biggest, most elaborate "snap circuits" kit.  It was sort
of a bust.  He did a few of them and lost interest.  The trouble with 
snap circuits is that the elaborate ones - the ones that
do interesting things - depend on ICs that they have packaged up.  Black 
boxes that hide all the fun.  Also, for some strange

reason, Snap Circuits doesn't use schematics in their workbooks.

   I like the old Radio Shack multi-project kits better, and I got him 
the last-biggest one that they made.  Actual

schematics.

   I had him build a Velleman kit that I had laying around.  He was 
scared of the soldering iron.  I said "just don't touch

the metal part" :).

- Jerry, KF6VB
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread Dave Kelley
Very similar story to mine. When I was 8 years old, my parents gave me a 
crystal radio kit for Christmas 1972. I built it, ran the antenna wire 
to a tree outside, and could hear only Top-40 radio from the AM station 
that was about half a mile away. It was magical. I fell in love with 
radio to a background of Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone," Carol 
King's "It's Too Late," Elton John's "Rocket Man," and Hot Butter's 
"Popcorn." (Does anyone remember the last one?)


I've now been licensed for 56 years and teach electrical engineering at 
a small university. No regrets and a lot of happiness.


Thanks for a great story, Wayne.

73,
Dave
ND3K (ex-NB4J)



-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick 
Sent: Sep 15, 2023 7:33 PM

I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 
8-Note Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.


That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was 
unheard of. I remember Dad looming over me in his green bathrobe, 
smiling, saying it was OK to say up late just this once. He could see I 
was in flow. Perhaps that validated his experiment.


The organ worked the first time I connected the 9 V battery. But I had 
an ear for music, and after running through the notes, I could tell some 
were mis-tuned.


Undaunted, I looked at the schematic and saw resistors. One per note. 
That had to be the problem.


Thanks to Heathkit I had learned the color code that very morning. I 
also had a box full of resistors I'd scavenged from old radios and TVs. 
(Why?) I started sticking old resistors in parallel or series with the 
shiny new ones until I had the notes all in tune, at least by ear.


At last I finished the job by bending the leads of the motley, oversized 
resistors until they all fit in the bottom of the plastic perf-board 
enclosure. Presentation was everything. (How did I know that?)


I proudly demonstrated the hacked organ for my parents, then for my 
older sister, who was taking piano lessons.


At best I got my hair ruffled. But still: that was the day.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread George Thornton
Disregard, sent to wrong addres

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of George Thornton
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 10:02 AM
To: Rick Bates, NK7I ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

The other thing about this video is that he did not test the 180-600 at 
different apertures.  Reports from earlier videos say it does better at f8 
instead of wide open.

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Rick Bates, NK7I
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 8:30 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

Satin, crinkle black...  Or flat two tone green a la Heathkit.

Rick nk7i


On 9/16/2023 8:00 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:
> How long before you painted it flat black? :-)
>
> Mike / KK5F
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Sep 15, 2023 7:33 PM
>
> I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 8-Note 
> Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.
>
> That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was 
> unheard of.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread George Thornton
The other thing about this video is that he did not test the 180-600 at 
different apertures.  Reports from earlier videos say it does better at f8 
instead of wide open.

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Satin, crinkle black...  Or flat two tone green a la Heathkit.

Rick nk7i


On 9/16/2023 8:00 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:
> How long before you painted it flat black? :-)
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> Mike / KK5F
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> I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 8-Note 
> Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.
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> That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was 
> unheard of.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread Rick Bates, NK7I

Satin, crinkle black...  Or flat two tone green a la Heathkit.

Rick nk7i


On 9/16/2023 8:00 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:

How long before you painted it flat black? :-)

Mike / KK5F

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I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 8-Note 
Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.

That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was 
unheard of.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-16 Thread Mike Morrow
How long before you painted it flat black? :-)

Mike / KK5F

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Sent: Sep 15, 2023 7:33 PM

I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 8-Note 
Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.

That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was 
unheard of.
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[Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 8-Note 
Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron.

That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was 
unheard of. I remember Dad looming over me in his green bathrobe, smiling, 
saying it was OK to say up late just this once. He could see I was in flow. 
Perhaps that validated his experiment.

The organ worked the first time I connected the 9 V battery. But I had an ear 
for music, and after running through the notes, I could tell some were 
mis-tuned. 

Undaunted, I looked at the schematic and saw resistors. One per note. That had 
to be the problem.

Thanks to Heathkit I had learned the color code that very morning. I also had a 
box full of resistors I'd scavenged from old radios and TVs. (Why?) I started 
sticking old resistors in parallel or series with the shiny new ones until I 
had the notes all in tune, at least by ear. 

At last I finished the job by bending the leads of the motley, oversized 
resistors until they all fit in the bottom of the plastic perf-board enclosure. 
Presentation was everything. (How did I know that?)

I proudly demonstrated the hacked organ for my parents, then for my older 
sister, who was taking piano lessons. 

At best I got my hair ruffled. But still: that was the day.

Wayne
N6KR

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