Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K2 S/n 01432 Construction Update..

2005-04-13 Thread Stewart Baker
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:59:42 +0100, Andy GM0NWI wrote:
 I can now say WITH convictions...! that I feel rather stupid...and small

 for overseasing this foresight..!  

Don't ever feel that about construction Andy.
This morning I did some more work on a Doppler DF system that I am building, 
and 
managed to short +12V to an adjacent pin that should only have had 0 to +5V on 
it. The result was a dead PIC microcomputer. Until I did that everything was 
working fine. Oh well ! never mind, another PIC on order

73
Stewart G3RXQ





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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread G3VVT
 
In a message dated 13/04/05 01:44:15 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

One of  the insturments I always wanted for home use was a spectrum analyzer. 
  Nice to have sound card analyzers with software and all, but a real rf  
analyzer in a small, functional package would be so great.  With some  
careful trade off decisions it might even be affordable!  The display is  a big 
headache if you don't have a good Oscope handy but a creative designer  [or 
two] 
might be able to do the job.  I suppose it would not have the  broad appeal of 
a K1, 2 or even a very compact antenna tuner, but it might  appeal to a few 
hundred hams and others who do bench  work.
Wayne
K9NE
Yes, I know about the projects already on the web,  but how many of you have 
actually rounded up all the stuff to build that  one?



--
 
Al Helfrick, K2BLA did a series of articles in the 1980's on just such an  
idea. The one published in RF Design, January 1988 had a 3 chip  design for 
use with a cheap general purpose oscilloscope and was based on  the MC3356 chip 
as the heart of the project.
 
In November 1989, Radcom published an article by Roger, G4PMK that  
expanded on Al's ideas with a practical version that would cover 1 - 90MHz with 
 a 
logarithmic display, 50dB dynamic range and a built in marker generator. The  
MC3356 converts the incoming 1 - 90MHz up to 145Mz where a Toko helical filter  
provides some selectivity. Is then down converted to 10.7 IF with an NE602, at 
 which point the main selectivity is achieved with filters. The  clever bit 
after this is the use of the second section of  the MC3356 chip to provide a 
logarithmic IF and detector. A kits of parts  and a PCBs were offered at the 
time so one was  built. My basic analyser covers up to 97 MHz and have extended 
the  range with external converters up to the 70cm UHF band. Believe the MC3356 
 chip is now obsolete so could be difficult to replicate.
 
A handy tool for tracking down RF spurii and interference problems within  
it's capability. Commercial small spectrum analysers tend still to command a  
premium price on the surplus market and the main that are available  tend to be 
large and heavy. I have such a one, the HP 141T/8554B combination.  Can make 
your eyes bulge carrying the instrument, but still has a good  performance 
considering it's age. This was our instrument of choice up to  recent years 
with 
the HP 8555A plug in for maintaining analog microwave  systems. For my own 
personal use at home tend to use the homebuilt device  first and only pull out 
the 
HP 141T when circumstances force me to.
 
Noticed a more recent design offered at a hamfest last year that  covered up 
to 500MHz or more with what appeared to be a cable TV tuner at  the front end. 
There are probably other built and kit versions of these  spectrum analyser 
adapters available in the market.
 
Bob, G3VVT
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Trevor Day
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Earl W Cunningham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

I just received the following e-mail about a toroid winding machine.
Perhaps it may interest some of you Elecrafters.  It was spam, so take it
for what it's worth.

73, de Earl, K6SE

Hi Earl,
Interestingly I received the same mail here.  I suspect that as we were 
both in this group when the discussion about toroid winders took place 
over a year ago and many of us were looking at various sites to do with 
these machines, this is probably targeted advertising rather than blind 
spam:-)


I would not be surprised to find many of the regulars targeted the same 
way if they don't use a spam trap whilst on this list. (This is the only 
list I don't use a spam trap on and I intend to keep it that way:-)


Trev G3ZYY
--
Trevor Day
UKSMG #217
www.uksmg.org

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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Stewart Baker
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:50:19 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In November 1989, Radcom published an article by Roger, G4PMK that  

 expanded on Al's ideas with a practical version that would cover 1 - 90MHz
 with  a
 logarithmic display, 50dB dynamic range and a built in marker generator.

I built one of these simple spectrum analysers, and it works well within it's 
design spec, however I find that I don't use it. This is because of the Wide 
Resolution Bandwidth, it is OK for harmonics and widely spaced spurious, but 
for 
in-close (50kHz) measurements it does not cope.

With DDS and support chips now available at reasonable prices it should be 
possible to produce a performance spectrum analyser (including good IF 
filtering) at a modest cost. How about it Elecraft ? 

73
Stewart G3RXQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 shakedown

2005-04-13 Thread Andrew Moore
 This is a nice rig, and very much 
 up to my expectation, although the temptation to lie on the couch with a 
 wire hung over the curtain rod and tune around is great!

Hey, what's wrong with *that*?!  This great little rig makes it
possible.

 Stronger signals can 
 be detected on the wrong side of zero beat, although this is barely 
 noticable except in the case of very strong (like AL7FS just down the 
 streeet) signals. 

Tell AL7FS to get a QRP rig... like the KX1 :)

I too notice the detection on the other side of zero beat, as you
mention.  I suspect it's normal.  I just treat it as a curiosity and
tune to the other side.

I love this rig.

--Anbdrew

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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Larry Phipps
TAPR has a nice VNA project going, www.tapr.org... it was featured in a 
July/August QEX. They are also going to offer it assembled I think thru 
Ten-Tec. It does a lot more than an antenna analyzer to boot, but 
requires a computer so is not portable. It does all the complex 
impedance measurements, but since it has its own DDS signal source, it 
can also display gain/loss type measurements, differential phase and 
gain error, etc.


Larry N8LP



Julian, G4ILO wrote:

If Elecraft is going to get into making kits for more sophisticated 
test equipment, I'd like to see an antenna analyzer. The MFJ ones are 
ridiculously overpriced over here, and it's not practical to bypass 
rip-off UK dealers and buy direct because MFJ levy a deliberately 
inflated international shipping charge. Besides, I'm sure an Elecraft 
product would be higher quality.


73,


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RE: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Sander Wissing
I would second the Antenna Analyzer.  I have an MFJ unit, but it really
can't be difficult to design a better unit.  My requirements are as follows:

-   I don't care for portability (Although the Elecraft one would likely
be small and portable anyway)
-   The ability to calibrate out a certain piece of feedline.
-   PC control, reporting
-   Frequency sweeps, with graphing (on PC), sweep PC controlled
-   Did I mention PC control?
-   Preferably standard RS232 comms, to facilitate developing new
software.
-   Freq range up to 145 MHz (2m) at leas, pref to 500MHz.
-   OH, and PC control

Cheers!

73 de ZR6SW


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
Sent: 13 April 2005 13:28
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

If Elecraft is going to get into making kits for more sophisticated test 
equipment, I'd like to see an antenna analyzer. The MFJ ones are 
ridiculously overpriced over here, and it's not practical to bypass 
rip-off UK dealers and buy direct because MFJ levy a deliberately 
inflated international shipping charge. Besides, I'm sure an Elecraft 
product would be higher quality.

73,
-- 
Julian, G4ILO
G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo

Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I built one of these simple spectrum analysers, and it works well within 
it's
design spec, however I find that I don't use it. This is because of the Wide
Resolution Bandwidth, it is OK for harmonics and widely spaced spurious, 
but for
in-close (50kHz) measurements it does not cope.

With DDS and support chips now available at reasonable prices it should be
possible to produce a performance spectrum analyser (including good IF
filtering) at a modest cost. How about it Elecraft ?

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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Robert McGwier

May I suggest that people consider the N2PK Vector Network Analyzer.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N2PK-VNA/

So far, I think it is a better design and is cheaper.

Bob
N4HY


Larry Phipps wrote:

TAPR has a nice VNA project going, www.tapr.org... it was featured in 
a July/August QEX. They are also going to offer it assembled I think 
thru Ten-Tec. It does a lot more than an antenna analyzer to boot, but 
requires a computer so is not portable. It does all the complex 
impedance measurements, but since it has its own DDS signal source, it 
can also display gain/loss type measurements, differential phase and 
gain error, etc.


Larry N8LP



Julian, G4ILO wrote:

If Elecraft is going to get into making kits for more sophisticated 
test equipment, I'd like to see an antenna analyzer. The MFJ ones are 
ridiculously overpriced over here, and it's not practical to bypass 
rip-off UK dealers and buy direct because MFJ levy a deliberately 
inflated international shipping charge. Besides, I'm sure an Elecraft 
product would be higher quality.


73,



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[Elecraft] Earlier version of Spectogram

2005-04-13 Thread Charlie, W0YG
I am trying to locate the earlier, free version of Spectogram for aligning 
filters in my K2.  Does anybody have this program downloaded?  The latest 
version that all the links in the Elecraft Resources URL seem to download a 
later version that the instructions don't really apply to regarding the 
examples in Tom Hammonds articles.


Thanks and 73,

Charlie, W0YG..

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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Larry Phipps
I have one and it's great, definitely better than the tapr one... but I 
didn't mention it because the project is currently closed unless you are 
willing to take one of a handful of left over boards, which require 
installation of some mighty small SMD parts. The original project had 
those parts already installed.


They may get another one going, but it was a lot of work and I wouldn't 
count on it. There's also a VNA project underway in Italy, but I can't 
recall the details.


Larry N8LP


Robert McGwier wrote:


May I suggest that people consider the N2PK Vector Network Analyzer.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N2PK-VNA/

So far, I think it is a better design and is cheaper.

Bob
N4HY


Larry Phipps wrote:

TAPR has a nice VNA project going, www.tapr.org... it was featured in 
a July/August QEX. They are also going to offer it assembled I think 
thru Ten-Tec. It does a lot more than an antenna analyzer to boot, 
but requires a computer so is not portable. It does all the complex 
impedance measurements, but since it has its own DDS signal source, 
it can also display gain/loss type measurements, differential phase 
and gain error, etc.


Larry N8LP



Julian, G4ILO wrote:

If Elecraft is going to get into making kits for more sophisticated 
test equipment, I'd like to see an antenna analyzer. The MFJ ones 
are ridiculously overpriced over here, and it's not practical to 
bypass rip-off UK dealers and buy direct because MFJ levy a 
deliberately inflated international shipping charge. Besides, I'm 
sure an Elecraft product would be higher quality.


73,




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[Elecraft] Re:Free Spectrogram program

2005-04-13 Thread Charlie, W0YG

Guy, got it.  Thanks!

73,

Charlie, W0YG..
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[Elecraft] RE: Could T1 tune a counterpoise ?

2005-04-13 Thread F5LCI

Many thanks for the answer.
I thought that it tuned for max current...
As I already have  a current indicator, I will try my home-made QRO  
matchbox in series with the counterpoise lead, then measure inductance  
with my Autek RF-analyst, to copy it into a small device, maybe biband  
(160/80) if I manage to do it.
Ok for my QTH, we have many sorts of both : I prefer those made from crude  
milk (FDA critical...), AND you forgot the third element : beverages (not  
the antennas).

72,

Ron wrote :
Excellent idea, IF the T1 actually tuned for maximum current.  
Unfortunately,

it does not. It uses a bridge circuit to provide a 50-ohm non-reactive load
to the transmitter. While that might be better than a short, untuned
counterpoise, it is far from ideal.

What I have done in your situation is to use a simple coil. A short
counterpoise will be capacitive, so what you need is an inductance to bring
it to resonance. If you are using a barefoot K2, a small inductor tapped
every turn should be FB. I once made one wound on a cardboard tube that  
once

held a roll of paper towels. What Ten Tec does is add a variable cap in
series with the coil to allow for small adjustments in between the taps,  
and

to provide a way to tune out inductive reactance in a counterpoise when it
is electrically longer than 1/4 wave.

You need a current indicator. That's easy. A small flashlight bulb in  
series

with the counterpoise. Short it out after finding the tap with the greatest
current.

Your QTH makes me hungry for some French Bread and a wedge of Brie.

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread Chris

I'm wondering about this K2 mojo that I keep reading about.

Went into the shack last night about 23:30 UTC, turned on the K2, 
selected 20m, tuning rate to 1kHz and had a quick tune up and down to 
check for activity. Hmmm big pileup there on 14.202MHz. Fine tune, lots 
of static so dial in the KDSP NR, and choose a narrower filter (AF2).


Good operator working the pile up - he's actualling giving his own 
callsign regularly! It's K9LZJ/PJ2 - Wheres that? A he's anouncing 
that too Curaco Island h fire up the laptop to look it up, it's the 
Netherlands Antillies.


He's only about S3 so I don't suppose I'll break the US pileup from here 
(I can hear the US stations 9+30 or so and he's bound to be beamed that 
way), but lets give it a go. He's tuning up and down a few tens of Hz so 
work out which way he's going and set an ambush. Wait for QRZ and give a 
call - damm doubled him, wait for QRZ again, give a call - nearly fell 
off my chair when he came straight back and gave me a 55.


Must be that mojo thing I guess. Well I suppose I was cheating by using 
VP8 mojo as well. Do two mojos add or multiply?


Chris - VP8BKF

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Re: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread Larry Phipps
They definitely multiply Chris. I think you could probably break any 
pileup ;-)


Larry N8LP



Chris wrote:


I'm wondering about this K2 mojo that I keep reading about.

Went into the shack last night about 23:30 UTC, turned on the K2, 
selected 20m, tuning rate to 1kHz and had a quick tune up and down to 
check for activity. Hmmm big pileup there on 14.202MHz. Fine tune, 
lots of static so dial in the KDSP NR, and choose a narrower filter 
(AF2).


Good operator working the pile up - he's actualling giving his own 
callsign regularly! It's K9LZJ/PJ2 - Wheres that? A he's anouncing 
that too Curaco Island h fire up the laptop to look it up, it's 
the Netherlands Antillies.


He's only about S3 so I don't suppose I'll break the US pileup from 
here (I can hear the US stations 9+30 or so and he's bound to be 
beamed that way), but lets give it a go. He's tuning up and down a few 
tens of Hz so work out which way he's going and set an ambush. Wait 
for QRZ and give a call - damm doubled him, wait for QRZ again, give a 
call - nearly fell off my chair when he came straight back and gave me 
a 55.


Must be that mojo thing I guess. Well I suppose I was cheating by 
using VP8 mojo as well. Do two mojos add or multiply?


Chris - VP8BKF

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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Mike S wrote:

It's exactly because of clueless newbies like you that there is a spam
problem in the first place.

(The rest of his e-mail censored because of foul language)
==
I have NEVER bought anything nor visited a Web site advertised by a
spammer.

This clueless newbie has been into computer hardware and software
professionally since 1966.  (Retired 1994.)

Bought (built) my first PC in 1979.  Authored much ham radio software
since then, much of it used world-wide today.

Member of the Elecraft e-mail list since April 2002 -- others before
that.

Celebrating my 51st year as a ham (first licensed as W8DGP in 1955 -
Extra Class since 1963).

Newbie???

73, de Earl, K6SE (not a vanity callsign)
K2/100 #2622
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Trev, G3ZYY wrote:

Interestingly I received the same mail here.  I suspect that as we were
both in this group when the discussion about toroid winders took place
over a year ago and many of us were looking at various sites to do with 
these machines, this is probably targeted advertising rather than blind 
==
The immediate impression I had when I received the winder e-mail was
that the spammer somehow knew I was an Elecrafter and that other
Elecrafters would possibly receive the same e-mail (apparently they
have).

If that is true, I wonder how he got my (or yours and others) e-mail
address because I have never searched the Web for a toroid winding
machine nor have I ever visited any spammer's Web site.

73, de Earl, K6SE
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Re: [Elecraft] Earlier version of Spectogram

2005-04-13 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi Charile:

GO to  www.n0ss.net  and click on the Quik-Link to go to the Spectrogram 
v5.1.7 download.


For what it's worth, RIGHT BELOW the Spectrogram download are located the 
docs for using Spectrogram to align your K2 or K1.


73,

Tom HammondN0SS

At 08:15 AM 4/13/05, you wrote:
I am trying to locate the earlier, free version of Spectogram for aligning 
filters in my K2.  Does anybody have this program downloaded?  The latest 
version that all the links in the Elecraft Resources URL seem to download 
a later version that the instructions don't really apply to regarding the 
examples in Tom Hammonds articles.


Thanks and 73,

Charlie, W0YG..

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[Elecraft] Filter alignment using Spectrogram

2005-04-13 Thread Charlie, W0YG
I don't know how one does this any other way.  Now, for the first time, I 
can change filters without the tone or pitch varying!  This is one procedure 
almost everyone should try!


73,

Charlie, W0YG..

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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:54:05AM -0700, Earl W Cunningham wrote:
 
 If that is true, I wonder how he got my (or yours and others) e-mail
 address because I have never searched the Web for a toroid winding
 machine nor have I ever visited any spammer's Web site.

Perhaps a web search for toroid winding machines led him to this list's
archives (I got a couple of copies of the email, but my ISP's spam trap
caught them).  Some of these folks are pretty clever at mining email
addresses.  I have one address which I have only used a few times (never
on a list) and it is now regularly receiving penny-stock spam. 

73, Bob N7XY

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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Stewart Baker
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:28:56 -0400, Larry Phipps wrote:
 They may get another one going, but it was a lot of work and I wouldn't
 count on it. There's also a VNA project underway in Italy, but I can't
 recall the details.

The Italian VNA project is at 
http://www.qsl.net/iw3hev/Antenna%20Analyzer%201.8-60%20MHz-Eng.htm

After much internal debate, mainly because of available time, I have placed an 
order for a built one (shame!). I will let the group know how it performs when 
I 
get it.

73
Stewart G3RXQ

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Re: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread vze3v8dt
It depends on the units of measure for the mojo.  If it is a linear unit, then 
they multiply, if it is a log unit (like dB) then they add.

Mark, NK8Q
k2 #4786, it definitely has mojo!


Must be that mojo thing I guess. Well I suppose I was cheating by using 
VP8 mojo as well. Do two mojos add or multiply?

Chris - VP8BKF


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[Elecraft] Re: How are T1s built [WAS: Need winding machine?]

2005-04-13 Thread wayne burdick
Assembled T1's are built in California, not far from Elecraft World 
Headquarters near Santa Cruz. The trick is to make a lot of them at 
once  ;)


73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Apr 13, 2005, at 3:33 AM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

I was wondering much the same a couple of days ago, when trying to 
figure out how Elecraft can offer built T1s for only 24 bucks more 
than the price of the kit


---

http://www.elecraft.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Larry Phipps
This looks like a nice little analyzer. I have used the AD8302 and it 
does a decent job within its 60 dB range limitation, which should be 
enough for most measurements. Since it has its own oscillator, I assume 
the levels are permanently set to maximize dynamic range. Note that it 
is a one port device, however, so it can't measure DUT input vs. output 
parameters such as gain and phase and other parameters between input and 
output.


Larry N8LP



Stewart Baker wrote:


On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:28:56 -0400, Larry Phipps wrote:
 


They may get another one going, but it was a lot of work and I wouldn't
count on it. There's also a VNA project underway in Italy, but I can't
recall the details.
   



The Italian VNA project is at 
http://www.qsl.net/iw3hev/Antenna%20Analyzer%201.8-60%20MHz-Eng.htm


After much internal debate, mainly because of available time, I have placed an 
order for a built one (shame!). I will let the group know how it performs when I 
get it.


73
Stewart G3RXQ


.

 


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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Mike S
Well, it seems that Earl has chosen to demonstrate his ignorance of accepted 
Internet protocol by not only spamming (itself a felony crime in the US), but 
by forwarding private correspondence to a public forum. I have been careful to 
respond to communications regarding this subject only via email and not the 
reflector, but if Earl wants a public discussion of the inappropriateness of 
his activity, so be it.

Yes, Earl, you are exhibiting the characteristics of a clueless newbie, 
Internet jargon for someone who doesn't understand the history and accepted 
practices of the Internet. My own experience with the Internet predates 
commercial use of any sort (Merit/NSFNet) - a time when you lost your feed if 
you tried to use it for business, which no one did because it was against the 
rules and strongly enforced by peer pressure.

The spam you sent was not informational, it was commercial. More useful 
information is easily had by doing a simple Google search, as someone already 
pointed out. There's no difference between you putting it may interest some of 
you on the front of a spam and the millions of spams sent out daily which 
start with Hey, I thought you might like this... or something similar.

Now you come along and try to rationalize criminal activity and theft of 
service (spam), unremorsefully. You've encouraged others to respond to spam, 
further propagating the problem. It is actions and lack of understanding such 
as yours which have made spam the significant problem it is today. Without an 
audience, spam wouldn't be profitable, and therefore wouldn't exist. By 
forwarding spam to a larger audience, you are both the problem and the cause, 
yet you continue to defend your action. 

This same can be said in some ways about ham radio - in the past the 
self-policing nature made it easy for the FCC to justify the (minimal) 
regulation necessary to support and maintain. More recently, that 
self-policing has begun to break down, and now we've got license testing 
fraud and Hollingsworth because hams look the other way instead of applying 
peer pressure when improper behavior is observed. Along that trendline, we can 
only expect more regulation. 

You're not simply ignoring improper Internet behavior, you're actively 
encouraging it. Yes, Earl, you've demonstrated that you are a clueless newbie 
with regard to the Internet, at best. If you actually knew what you were doing 
when you spamed the list, that just makes it worse and you do deserve censure. 
With your history, you should know better.

At 10:41 AM 4/13/2005, Earl W Cunningham wrote...
Mike S wrote:

It's exactly because of clueless newbies like you that there is a spam
problem in the first place.

(The rest of his e-mail censored because of foul language)
==
I have NEVER bought anything nor visited a Web site advertised by a
spammer.

This clueless newbie has been into computer hardware and software
professionally since 1966.  (Retired 1994.)

Bought (built) my first PC in 1979.  Authored much ham radio software
since then, much of it used world-wide today.

Member of the Elecraft e-mail list since April 2002 -- others before
that.

Celebrating my 51st year as a ham (first licensed as W8DGP in 1955 -
Extra Class since 1963).

Newbie???

73, de Earl, K6SE (not a vanity callsign)
K2/100 #2622
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RE: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread ron
Pardon my ignorance fellas, but what is a mojo?

Ron
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Just do a Google search on toroid winding. You don't have to look far 
to turn up Elecraft list posts and postings from lists.contesting.com 
where the subject has been mentioned, complete with full email addresses.


73,
--
Julian, G4ILO
G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo

Earl W Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The immediate impression I had when I received the winder e-mail was
that the spammer somehow knew I was an Elecrafter and that other
Elecrafters would possibly receive the same e-mail (apparently they
have).

If that is true, I wonder how he got my (or yours and others) e-mail
address because I have never searched the Web for a toroid winding
machine nor have I ever visited any spammer's Web site.

73, de Earl, K6SE

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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Douglas Westover
So I guess if Earl had said I ran across this torrid winding machine that
might
be of interest to Elecrafters, and had made no mention of spam, it would
have
been okay? Or perhaps he could have inserted a link to the appropriate site.
We get links to supposedly reputable profit oriented organizations on the
reflector all the time: could any of these be possible spam? Hum?

I found the torid winding machine interesting BUT I didn't buy one! ;)

Doug
W6JD

- Original Message -
From: Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?


 Well, it seems that Earl has chosen to demonstrate his ignorance of
accepted Internet protocol by not only spamming (itself a felony crime in
the US), but by forwarding private correspondence to a public forum. I have
been careful to respond to communications regarding this subject only via
email and not the reflector, but if Earl wants a public discussion of the
inappropriateness of his activity, so be it.


 The spam you sent was not informational, it was commercial. More useful
information is easily had by doing a simple Google search, as someone
already pointed out. There's no difference between you putting it may
interest some of you on the front of a spam and the millions of spams sent
out daily which start with Hey, I thought you might like this... or
something similar.



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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Thom R Lacosta

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

Just do a Google search on toroid winding. You don't have to look far to 
turn up Elecraft list posts and postings from lists.contesting.com where the 
subject has been mentioned, complete with full email addresses.


But to get back to some basicsDo you think it's appropriate to forward
a spam message to a mailing list?

Thom

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Re: RE: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread vze3v8dt
Well, going to the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:

Main Entry: mo?jo
Pronunciation: 'mO-()jO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural mojoes or mojos
Etymology: probably of African origin; akin to Fulani moco'o medicine man
: a magic spell, hex, or charm; broadly : magical power

Hey, that sounds about right!

Mark, NK8Q


From: ron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed Apr 13 11:38:41 CDT 2005
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Chris' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

Pardon my ignorance fellas, but what is a mojo?

Ron
Wb1hga
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Thom R Lacosta

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Douglas Westover wrote:


So I guess if Earl had said I ran across this torrid winding machine that
might
be of interest to Elecrafters, and had made no mention of spam, it would
have
been okay?


Would that involve forwarding the spam message to the list?



Or perhaps he could have inserted a link to the appropriate site.


Sureand perhaps instead of telling him he spammed the list with a spam 
message, some folks might point out to him that he referenced a site that uses

Spam to market its products.



We get links to supposedly reputable profit oriented organizations on the
reflector all the time: could any of these be possible spam? Hum?


If those organizations used Spam to market their products/services than
one could advance the premise that be mentioning them, one is condoning their
use of Spam.

I beleive there are some folks who simply refuse to purchase goods/services
from organizations that use Spam to market those items.

Thom
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[Elecraft] Re: Fw: Need winding machine? END OF THREAD.

2005-04-13 Thread wayne burdick



On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

Do you think it's appropriate to forward
a spam message to a mailing list?


Clearly, spam should not be forwarded.

But just as clearly, Earl didn't know this was spam. He thought it was 
legitimate and that he was potentially doing someone on the list a 
favor. We've all received messages that we thought were interesting, 
but later turned out to be urban myths that have circulated for years, 
or were outright spam.


Let's avoid criticism of those who unintentionally forward such 
messages. We all have things to learn about the internet.


In any case, it's time to end this thread.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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RE: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ron, WB1HGA asked:

Pardon my ignorance fellas, but what is a mojo?

---

That question comes up often, Ron.

A mojo is an object containing magic. In native American lore, it's often
a small leather bag worn on a leather thong around the neck in which
particular items with spiritual powers are placed: a talisman. 

Somewhere in the past someone decided that the Elecraft rigs were Ham radio
mojos, Hi! 

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] KX1 operation from Bust, Colorado

2005-04-13 Thread W0rw
The KX1 Pedestrian Mobile operation at Bust, Colorado, is currently in the 
April 2005 ARS Sojourner Magazine.
http://www.arsqrp.com/ars/pages/back_issues/2005_text/0405_text/W0RW.html

Bust is a great place to operate from !
Paul  w0rw
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread g4ilo
That's an impossible question to answer, because it depends how you define 
spam. To some, it's any unsolicited email. To others, it's any email they 
didn't ask to receive and aren't interested in.

The fact that a number of people did find the email interesting seems to me 
to vindicate Earl's decision to forward it. The discussion about whether or 
not he should have done so is far more off-topic and a bigger waste of 
reflector bandwidth.

Unsolicited mail is a long established marketing method and my doormat is a 
regular recipient of the paper-based version of it.

Julian, G4ILO


Thom R Lacosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But to get back to some basicsDo you think it's appropriate to forward 
a spam message to a mailing list?

Thom


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[Elecraft] Moving sale: K1, K2, options, 706MkIIg, ... all near-new

2005-04-13 Thread Andrew Moore
We're moving!  I'm selling off the bulky things.
I'm keeping only the tiny KX1.

All items are about 2 months old, if not less, and in near-new
condition, if not mint.

All prices include shipping and insurance!
For Elecraft items I've basically taken the new price and donated the
time/effort/cost of construction, and included shipping.

Package deals welcome.

Price   Item

600 K2 #4778, assembled/tested
160 KAT2 tuner, assembled/tested
40  KNB2 noise blanker, assembled/tested
90  SSB option, assembled/tested
80  KAF2 audio filter  clock, assembled/tested
58  MH2 hand microphone (Elecraft/Heil)

350 K1-4 #1994, assembled/tested, for 40/30/20/17 meters
100 KAT1 tuner, assembled/tested
60  KFL1-2 board, unassembled/new, for 80/40 meters
35  KNB1 noise blanker, assembled/tested
44  KBT1 battery option, unassembled/new

850 Icom 706 MkIIG (HF/6/2/440) with separation kit, accy's
100 500 Hz CW filter for 706 MkIIG

25  Radio Shack power supply, 13.8 VDC, 3 amps.
10  MFJ ClearTone speaker

I'm the original owner of everything.
It's all between 1 and 2 months old.
Everything is basically in brand new condition.

Email me off list.
--Andrew, NV1B


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[Elecraft] Moving sale: K1, K2, options, 706MkIIg, ... all near-new

2005-04-13 Thread Andrew Moore
(added the ic-2200)

We're moving!  I'm selling off the bulky things.
I'm keeping only the tiny KX1.

All items are about 2 months old, if not less, and in near-new
condition, if not mint.

All prices include shipping and insurance!
For Elecraft items I've basically taken the new price and donated the
time/effort/cost of construction, and included shipping.

Package deals welcome.

Price   Item

600 K2 #4778, assembled/tested
160 KAT2 tuner, assembled/tested
40  KNB2 noise blanker, assembled/tested
90  SSB option, assembled/tested
80  KAF2 audio filter  clock, assembled/tested
58  MH2 hand microphone (Elecraft/Heil)

350 K1-4 #1994, assembled/tested, for 40/30/20/17 meters
100 KAT1 tuner, assembled/tested
60  KFL1-2 board, unassembled/new, for 80/40 meters
35  KNB1 noise blanker, assembled/tested
44  KBT1 battery option, unassembled/new

850 Icom 706 MkIIG (HF/6/2/440) with separation kit, accy's
100 500 Hz CW filter for 706 MkIIG
200 Icom IC-2200 2m
25  Radio Shack power supply, 13.8 VDC, 3 amps.
10  MFJ ClearTone speaker

I'm the original owner of everything.
It's all between 1 and 2 months old.
Everything is basically in brand new condition.

Email me off list.
--Andrew, NV1B


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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Larry Phipps


Thanks Stewart, I missed that... the website was exceedingly slow here 
and I got tired of waiting for the manual to download. That makes it 
definitely worth a look, especially at that price. I love the N2PK, but 
it's a bit slow and needs better software... but for detailed 
measurements it's awesome.


Larry N8LP



Stewart Baker wrote:


On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:06:59 -0400, Larry Phipps wrote:
 


Note that it

is a one port device, however, so it can't measure DUT input vs. output
parameters such as gain and phase and other parameters between input and
output.
   



There is a mod that permits 2 port i.e transmission measurements to be made.

73
Stewart G3RXQ


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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Daems Johan

Julian, G4ILO wrote:

If Elecraft is going to get into making kits for more sophisticated test 
equipment, I'd like to see an antenna analyzer.


Here is a nice one if you are looking for a kit.
73, Johan on4aeb
http://www.amqrp.org/kits/kits.html



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RE: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Ron:

Cool! I'd always wondered where the idea came from.

Steve
AA4AK

At 10:25 AM 4/13/2005 -0700, you wrote:

Ron, WB1HGA asked:

Pardon my ignorance fellas, but what is a mojo?

---

That question comes up often, Ron.

A mojo is an object containing magic. In native American lore, it's often
a small leather bag worn on a leather thong around the neck in which
particular items with spiritual powers are placed: a talisman.

Somewhere in the past someone decided that the Elecraft rigs were Ham radio
mojos, Hi!

Ron AC7AC


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RE: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread ron
Fine business Ron,
I liked your interpretation more so. It has a mojo feel to it! (heh heh)

Ron, wb1hga
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[Elecraft] Dishwasher QRN to my K2 sn 1031

2005-04-13 Thread Kenneth A. Christiansen

I bought a Frigidaire dishwasher made by Elecvtrolux in January of 2005. It
is a model gld2450rds0. I did not realize it at first but it is the source
of my high QRN. I used my IC-746PRO to make the following observations
because it will pick up AM but the interference is just as bad on my K2 sn
1031. The background noise was S5 on 20 meters with the AM mode, 9 kHz
filter and a dead frequency of 13990 selected. All cycles of the dishwasher
except the wash part have a noise level of S6 to S7 which is still something
I could live with. Every time the actual washing starts the noise jumps to
10 DB over S9 and stays there until it shuts down to pump out,  add water or
dry. I looked at the output of my IC746-PRO with the water fall of Digipan
and see a consistent pattern from about 300 Hz to 1500 Hz but while there
may be more 120 Hz spaced peaks in places on the spectrum there are also
other spacing. The peaks do not move as I change the VFO on the ICOM so it
is a broadband noise. I have a portable radio and find noise all the way
from 2 mHz to 20 mHz. The noise seems to get into the wiring and plumbing of
the house and drops off rapidly if I take the portable radio outside. If I
use Digipan with the  SSB mode then I do not see the peaks. I just see white
noise across the entire receiver spectrum.

Now I am hoping someone on this list may have some information about curing
the noise from this dishwasher. Can some sort of beads be added around the
power line or is there a filter that can be added. The dishwasher draws 9
amps so any filter would have to be able to handle the high current.

My K2 and I have been having trouble with this noise since January of 2005.
The noise is so much stronger than almost every signial on the band that the
band sound as though there is no activity. The reason we did not figure it
out sooner is that just starting the dishwasher does not start the noise. It
doesn't happen except when it is in the actual wash parts of the cycle.

Thank you for any help.

Ken Christiansen W0CZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Elecraft] about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread Lloyd Lachow


At 10:25 AM 4/13/2005 -0700, you wrote:

Ron, WB1HGA asked:


Pardon my ignorance fellas, but what is a mojo?


---


That question comes up often, Ron.


A mojo is an object containing magic. In native
American lore, it's often
a small leather bag worn on a leather thong around the
neck in which
particular items with spiritual powers are placed: a
talisman.


Somewhere in the past someone decided that the
Elecraft rigs were Ham radio
mojos, Hi!


Ron AC7AC



  I think that the mojo here, by extension, isn't
necessarily the object, one that is ...thought to
promote supernatural action..., but the magic it
contains. One of the current meanings is, Personal
magnetism; charm. The Urban Dictionary gives us: The
word originally means a charm or a spell. But now it's
more commonly said meaning sex appeal or talent. and
Elecraft rigs have plenty of both, imho.

  LL/K3ESE



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Re: [Elecraft] Dishwasher QRN to my K2 sn 1031

2005-04-13 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:29:46 -0500, Kenneth A. Christiansen wrote:

is a broadband noise. I have a portable radio and find noise all the 
way
from 2 mHz to 20 mHz. 

Some thoughts. First, this issue has been discussed on the RFI list, and 
there are some RFI specialists who hang out there. A study of their 
archive is in order. 

Second, there are two basic ways the RF can be getting out of the washer 
-- radiated directly from an unshielded cabinet, and conducted on the 
power wiring. I suspect the power wiring. 

The first solution I would try with that is to form a common mode low 
pass filter on the power line. The easiest way to do that is wind as 
many turns of the power cord as you can around a 2.4 #43 toroid 
(commonly called an FT240-43), AND add bypass capacitors (around 0.05uF) 
from both sides of the AC line to the ground, and make sure the chassis 
of the machine is tied to this same ground. 

So, coming out of the machine, there's the choke, followed by caps to 
ground. That is, the caps are on the LINE side of the choke. AND there's 
a bond that does NOT go through the choke between the washer and the 
equipment ground at the outlet. This bond should be as short as 
possible, because it can be carrying some of the trash, and that trash 
can radiate. 

As to the number of turns: you probably can't put too many on it. I 
would aim for at least 7 turns, and try for a few more. What happens 
when you do this is that the ferrite choke develops a broad peak in its 
impedance that is actually a resonance between the inductance and the 
stray capacitance, and with the resistance of both the wire and the 
ferrite thrown in. With more turns, that resonance will move down in 
frequency. I've been working with Mike, W4EF, on a research project on 
these toroidal chokes, and will publish the work this fall. Mike's data 
shows that anything from about 7 to about 10 turns is ideal for 3.5 - 20 
MHz, and the greater number of turns will help things on 80 and 160.

If this solution doesn't make a dent, the trash is getting radiated. In 
that case, I would call the mfr and tell them to fix it. 

Jim Brown  K9YC


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[Elecraft] ID plates and acrylic covers for K2,K1 and KX1

2005-04-13 Thread Ken Kaplan

Hello to all...

I have been producing engraved acrylic covers for the K2 and K1, and
engraved ID plates for K2, K1 and KX1.
Eric has graciously added my web site to the list at the bottom of the
Elecraft home page.

I believe these plates give a 'finished' look your your Elecraft rig.
They also assist you to tell your rig apart from others (they all look
alike on the outside!)

My web page is www.arkayengravers.com/elecraft

I also have links to my SP2 speaker project (thanks to VE6DRW), and some 
un-modules on pc boards I have constructed.


However, if you have inquiries, please email directly to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

73
Ken Kaplan WB2ART
Arkay Engravers, Inc.

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RE: [Elecraft] Dishwasher QRN to my K2 sn 1031

2005-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jim makes excellent suggestions.

If you have a battery powered radio, you can tell if the RFI is arriving
through the power line. One thing that I'd check before going too crazy
chasing possibilities is to be sure the metal frame and cabinet is grounded.
It should be, but sometimes the ground has to be attached during
installation and it gets left off. A quick check between a known grounded
outlet and the case with an ohmmeter should show a ohm or two at most. 

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] K2 Audio Loss Due to ESD

2005-04-13 Thread Roy Morris
I have come up with what I think is a better mod for grounding the mike 
connector (J2) on the Front Panel board.  The two standoffs were removed on 
each side of the mike connector.  The two lockwashers on each standoff were 
removed.  Two small expansion springs (about 1/2 X 3/16 before expansion with 
the last loop on each side lying flat to accept screw) were purchased at the 
hardware store.  I placed the two springs on one screw securing them with the 
standoff, routed them on each side of J2, and joined them on the other 
standoff.  These standoffs are at ground potential.  I did not replace the two 
lockwashers on each standoff.  This mod seems to make a good ground.  
Hopefully, this along with good grounding and well sanded panel connections 
will help eliminate loss of audio due to ESD zaps to K2/100s with the KDSP2 
installed.  Roy Morris  W4WFB No virus found in this outgoing message.
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Audio Loss Due to ESD

2005-04-13 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:56:50 -0400, Roy Morris wrote:

I have come up with what I think is a better mod for grounding 
the mike connector 

The ONLY good place to connect the shield of the mic cable is to 
the chassis of the K2. I have modified one of my K2's to do this, 
and will do the other one (newly acquired) soon. When you connect 
the shield to the circuit board and from there go to the chassis, 
you set up what we in the pro audio world know as a pin 1 
problem.

You can find a tutorial on this as part of AES48, an international 
standard that I helped write. At www.aes.org, go to Standards, 
then Standards in print, and then select AES48. Anyone can 
download a pdf of the standard at no charge. If you are not an AES 
(Audio Engineering Society) member, you won't be able to print the 
pdf, but you can read it on your screen. You can buy a printable 
copy for $25. 

BTW, the chassis is also the right place to connect the signal 
return of RS232 connections, NOT pin 5. I've solved some serious 
RFI problems by correcting this. 

This is a tutorial on the topic. 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/FerritesRFI-HamPPT.pdf 

There are other tutorials on the website that you may find 
helpful.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/publish.htm

Jim Brown  K9YC


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[Elecraft] last try..blank display

2005-04-13 Thread Roland Elvie Whitsitt
I'm at my wit's end trying to figure out why there is no words appearing on the 
K2 on the phase 1 test.  I've tried every suggestion short of lifting the 
display off or replacing all the chips.  This kit was given to me partially 
complete and I retraced it from step one.  
I've been building these little kits for simple rigs lately and have been 
eyeing the k1, but I'm wary of another failer.  I'm only out $12.00 on this 
kit.  Those chips add up fast though and elecraft charges $100 bucks an hour to 
look at it.  It sure is a pretty rig.  Wish I was smart enough to figure it 
out.  This is my 3rd post on this problem over the last 6 months.  thanks
n5vwn
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[Elecraft] Receiver problem

2005-04-13 Thread Evert Bakker

Hi all,

I finished the second stage of assembling the K2, (RF part 1) and 
started the allign and test procedures.
I saw the S-meter stuck at the last led (nr 10) during receive and no 
audio on the headphones and with the RF-Gain full CW.
(It actually doesn't make any difference if the RF-Gain is full CW or 
CCW in my particular case).. I ignored this and started the alignement.
All went fine but ending up at the 40 mtr RX test, no wonder, nothing to 
hear!.
The strange effect I noticed is when entering for instance the CAL mode 
XFIL the audio noise comes on and the S-meter goes down.
But when leaving the calibration mode, the S meter goes high and audio 
fades away, just like the RF gain is turned back on (which corresponds 
with each other). I tried to calibrate the AGC Threshold and S-meter 
again but as I expected, this is not a solution. It looks like an RF 
-gain problem, which I didn't have when I had my first alignment.


I checked the boards for short circuits and cold solder joints but 
didn't see anything (I might oversee something). Unfortunately I have no 
signal generator available at the moment.


Who has got an idea ?

Evert, PA2KW





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[Elecraft] K2 #4654 works fine

2005-04-13 Thread PA2A Steef
 since one hour now! One little problem: on 160 and 80 I hear a loud click when 
switching from TX to RX, on the rest of the bands it is not so loud, but it is 
stille there. Probably there is a capacitor under one of the bandpass filter 
relays not completely soldered.

73 's Steef
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 #4654 works fine

2005-04-13 Thread Vic Rosenthal

PA2A Steef wrote:


since one hour now! One little problem: on 160 and 80 I hear a loud click
when switching from TX to RX, on the rest of the bands it is not so loud, but
it is stille there. Probably there is a capacitor under one of the bandpass
filter relays not completely soldered.


If you have both a KPA100 and KDSP2, see:

http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2005-01/msg00997.html

This problem requires both of the above accessories to be active (you can test 
it by turning down the power to 10 watts or didabling the DSP) and is observed 
more strongly 0n 160 and 80.


--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco

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[Elecraft] RE: Receiver problem

2005-04-13 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Evert,

I don't have any firm answers yet, but we can slowly get to the bottom of
this with some checks to see what is good and what might be bad.

First thing to check is the resistance from control board P1 to ground -
this is the RF Gain control line, and it should be close to zero ohms with
the RF Gain full Clockwise, and should increase in resistance as you move
the control.  This checks the path from the Control board to the RF Gain
control and all the connectors involved.  If that is good, move on.

You said that you do find some audio when in CAL FIL - so let's see what the
AGC voltage is - monitor the voltage at Control Board P1 pin 5 with the menu
set to CAL FIL and with the receiver set to normal.  You should have the
same voltage in both cases.  Let me know what voltage you measure.

Next move your finger down onto T7 while listening in the headphones (all
gains on full CW) - you should hear an increase in sound (your body is
picking up some BFO signal and you are coupling it back into the input of
the IF amp).  Try it in the menu CAL FIL and normal receive and tell me if
there is any difference.

We can go from there after you report the findings of those tests.

Perhaps better to do this off-reflector, and then report the findings to the
reflector after the problem is cured.

73,
Don W3FPR


 I finished the second stage of assembling the K2, (RF part 1) and
 started the allign and test procedures.
 I saw the S-meter stuck at the last led (nr 10) during receive and no
 audio on the headphones and with the RF-Gain full CW.
 (It actually doesn't make any difference if the RF-Gain is full CW or
 CCW in my particular case).. I ignored this and started the alignement.
 All went fine but ending up at the 40 mtr RX test, no wonder, nothing to
 hear!.
 The strange effect I noticed is when entering for instance the CAL mode
 XFIL the audio noise comes on and the S-meter goes down.
 But when leaving the calibration mode, the S meter goes high and audio
 fades away, just like the RF gain is turned back on (which corresponds
 with each other). I tried to calibrate the AGC Threshold and S-meter
 again but as I expected, this is not a solution. It looks like an RF
 -gain problem, which I didn't have when I had my first alignment.

 I checked the boards for short circuits and cold solder joints but
 didn't see anything (I might oversee something). Unfortunately I have no
 signal generator available at the moment.

 Who has got an idea ?

 Evert, PA2KW



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[Elecraft] newbie?

2005-04-13 Thread Mike Sexsmith
I think I want Earl on my side of any dark alley I accidentally wander 
into... I also appreciate the grace and style with which he expresses 
himself while maintaining his gentlemanliness. Sounds like the kind of fella 
that would step back and let the opponent pick up his foil...


Hey Earl, are you related to Errol Flynn?

Mike Sexsmith
W7MSX
K2# 4819, KX1# 1034
Licensed two years, Extra Class for one, proud to be a newbie...


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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

2005-04-13 Thread VR2BrettGraham

G3VVT suggested to K6SE:


Interestingly I received the same mail here.  I suspect that as we were
both in this group when the discussion about toroid winders took place
over a year ago and many of us were looking at various sites to do with
these machines, this is probably targeted advertising rather than blind
spam:-)

I would not be surprised to find many of the regulars targeted the same
way if they don't use a spam trap whilst on this list. (This is the only
list I don't use a spam trap on and I intend to keep it that way:-)


Not quite sure what Trev means by a spam trap, but folks just up the
road from here are pretty sharp nowadays  this company in Namhoi is
probably not any different.  I too received a few unsolicited e-mails from
Kwang Yat  in the pursuit of socialism with Chinese characteristics,
it comes as no surprise.  The winding of torroids is often discussed
on this list  given some of the classic spam I receive, there is a lot
of creativity going into finding addresses to send stuff to.

Partially serious, partially humorous  somewhat relevant  - cheers, Earl.

73, VR2BrettGraham

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[Elecraft] K2 4875 growing

2005-04-13 Thread Yves Dussault

My new baby, K2 nr 4875 is growing.
Control panel completed; resistance checks Ok.
Youppi!

Yves Dussault-VE2ATD
Laval, QC, Canada 


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RE: [Elecraft] Fw: Need spam machine?

2005-04-13 Thread Paul - W8KC
Sorry Trev, but unsolicited email offering to sell something you've never
heard of from someone you've never heard of is SPAM.

Whether you consider targeted spam legitimate as opposed to what you call
blind SPAM, is irrelevant.  You stop SPAM by not buying anything from an
unsolicited emailer.  PERIOD.

I get that exact same email from Jack Feng at least once a week.  I even
stuck winding machine in my filter to immediately send any email with that
term into the delete bucket.
  
With all due respect Trev, as long as folks like you try to rationalize
SPAM, the spammers will keep doing it.  Don't be part of the problem, be
part of the solution.

73 =paul= W8KC

ObELECRAFT - I love my KX1.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor Day
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:22 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Need winding machine?

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Earl W Cunningham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I just received the following e-mail about a toroid winding machine.
Perhaps it may interest some of you Elecrafters.  It was spam, so take it
for what it's worth.

73, de Earl, K6SE
Hi Earl,
Interestingly I received the same mail here.  I suspect that as we were 
both in this group when the discussion about toroid winders took place 
over a year ago and many of us were looking at various sites to do with 
these machines, this is probably targeted advertising rather than blind 
spam:-)

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[Elecraft] many thoughts, somewhat at random

2005-04-13 Thread Steve Jackson
N5VWN wrote:  
I'm at my wit's end trying to figure out why there is
no words appearing on the K2 on the phase 1 test.

I've felt frustrated many times while building, too,
and I've been at it over 30 years.  You are not alone.
 But you've buit a Rockmite and a Pixie.  The K2 is
WAAAY easier to make work than either of those rigs.

My comments, for what they are worth:

1.  if I got a K2 for $12, in ANY condition, I'd be
dancing an Irish jig!  you're starting out WAY ahead
of the game ...

2.  ... on the other hand, one of the things I have
learned to probably not try again is building a kit
somebody else started!  ;)  probably including myself,
at an earlier age.

3.  Stockton alone has 7 times the number of hams in
it that my ENTIRE rural NC county does, yet there are
FOUR other K2 rigs/owners here!  In Stockton, I'd try
to find a local, experienced Elmer to come by and help
in person.  There's NOTHING like learning from an
expert, and NO replacement for having a helper there,
IN PERSON.  Surely, there MUST be at least ONE local,
capable, and willing Elmer, the odds are very much in
favor of it.  Stockton also has at least one
well-known ham club, a great way to find the right
person.

4.  Hardly anyone ever says this, but, it should be
said ... nobody should try to build or fix an
electronic *anything* without having an ammeter in
line.  The current drawn (or, not drawn) by a
device-under-test is THE #1 most telling thing about
what's wrong with a recalcitrant circuit.  If you
don't have a handy ammeter, run, do not walk, to go
get one, or make one by using a 1 ohm resistor in
series with your device and then measure the voltage
drop across it.  1/10th volt equals 100 mA and so
forth, that is why Ohm's Law is on the test!  A good
digital voltmeter can be bought at Sears (readily
available)  and while it probably has a milliammeter
in it, it's actually easier to put the shunt in series
and use the voltmeter to go back and forth from the
shunt to the circuit tests.

5.  Another ageless truism is that there's no more
useful a piece of test gear than an oscilloscope.  Of
course, one would need to be taught to use one, and
you'd also have to have one ... neither are hard at
all ... and this one piece of gear could make the
difference between an enjoyable hobby and a
frustrating discouragement.  Consider making the time
investment (I would have said money too but these days
a good used 'scope is so cheap as to be laughable).

6.  A current-limited bench supply, preferably with
variable voltage and adjustable current limiting, can
be your best friend.  There are some mighty nice used
ones around I've seen at hamfests for $10 or $15, and
even a decent new one can cost as little at $45.  I
just got three of some little Chinese knockoff mini
bench supply from Circuit Specialists, for work.  They
are very inexpensive and reliable.  No, they are no
threat to Lambda or HP, but, hey ...

7.  The reason I've suggested these extra goodies is
that they make things go faster and smoother.  Because
I have the experience, I can probably make do without
any of them; indeed, I *have* made do without ... that
is HOW I got the experience in the 1st place!  You
don't absolutely need this stuff, but, based on your
QRZ! profile, it looks like you're a budding builder. 
Take it from me, don't do things the hard way like I
did (soldering with hot nails, using strips of
aluminum foil for wire, etc., I've done it all), get
some decent shop equipment and never look back.

8.  Please post some specific results of your tests so
far.  For example, I turned it on and it doesn't
work is not nearly as useful as I tested the voltage
at U3, pin 4 and found it to be x.y and during the
test the set is drawing about 475 mA and so forth, to
help others help you out.  

9.  This electronic medium is not at all a good way to
troubleshoot electronic equipment, but it will do in a
pinch, and you can make it much easier by providing
specifics, in detail.  Don't be afraid to write down
every detail because you are the eyes and fingers for
all the people who want to help, and there are a LOT
of us.

10.  Lastly, there are almost 5 thousand K2 rigs now,
some six years old, and still going strong.  They
work, and work well.  Let's get YOURS on the air SOON!

gl 73  Steve KZ1X/4
K2 #0771
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[Elecraft] Re: about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread n5pip



I'll echo what Chris wrote.
I just received my K2 on Monday (4/11/05), purchased from the estate of 
George W5YR (SK).
I was tuning through 17m at 2357z on 4/12/05. Heard a strong 59 station 
running a pileup on 18.135. K9SG/PJ2.
What the heck, I'm running 10w into a vertical. Let me give it a try. Whoa!! 
He's answering me! And we exchange 5x9 !!!
15 minutes later (0112z, 4/13/05) I'm trolling through 20m. A strong S9 
station at 14.202 . A huge pileup. Well, my 10w is fired off again. What? 
he's calling for the Papa India Papa station to try again. This is getting 
really interesting. So I go back, N5PIP/QRP. K9LZJ/PJ2 replies, You're 
5x3, try lower power. So now I'm REALLY sitting up straight, I lower to 5 
watts, get another 5x3. Lower again to 1 watt. Still 5x3. Lower to 1/2 watt, 
then 1/10th watt. Still getting 5x3. Now we're BOTH amazed. He wants to know 
what rig I'm running.  ELECRAFT K2, of course, I proudly reply. He replies 
something to the effect that he's going to have to seriously look into 
Elecraft a bit further.

  Now I want to know, do Wayne  Eric pay commissions?
  To paraphrase an older popular commercial, When Elecraft speaks, people 
listen.


73 de Stirling, N5PIP
K2 #0489

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[Elecraft] Calibration Interval

2005-04-13 Thread Tim Jones
My K2 #4198 is running just fine and I am wondering how often to check the
Calibration of my K2 to help make sure it is running at peak performance 
Say every 6 months or yearly?


K9NX
Jonesy
K2 #4198 


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RE: [Elecraft] Calibration Interval

2005-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jonesy,K9NX wrote:

My K2 #4198 is running just fine and I am wondering how often to check the
Calibration of my K2 to help make sure it is running at peak performance 
Say every 6 months or yearly?

---

Just a guess, but I'd say you can ignore it for a couple of years at least.
Even then, 'recalibration' will catch any tuned circuits drifting, but isn't
really a test to see if there's performance degradation from other reasons.


I have a habit of recalibrating or doing other repairs only when I see
something wrong. I see something wrong when some critical values change. 

I log the key data about a new rig so I can look back from time to time if
I'm suspicious that something's amiss or if I'm simply bored and want to
tinker G.

For transmit, I have a record of the maximum power out on each band into a
good dummy load. I have a K2/100 so I have the numbers with the amp on and
with it off.  

For receive, I use the XG1 to note the S-meter response it provides on each
band. That's an excellent way to check the receiver sensitivity. Do it with
the preamp on and off to confirm normal preamp operation. 

A note of the current draw from the power supply reported key down at full
power and key up in receive gives me a check of the current drain.

Spectrogram allows capturing the screen shots of the filter responses which
I have. If I ever suspect something going strange in the BFO frequencies or
in the filter itself, a quick comparison with the saved spectrogram plot
will confirm or refute any change. 

I also log the settings in CAL FIL and other menu parameters I've set up in
case I ever change anything, or have a problem that requires resetting the
values, so I can quickly reset things to normal if I've been tinkering and
forgot where I started from.

This is the result of a lifetime habit, since I've always operated equipment
I built myself, a lot of it of my own design. Once in a while what I think
is a receiver or transmitter turns into a smoke generator.  Having a log of
critical data (and the schematic where I can find it) helps me figure out
how to turn off the smoke. 

I usually keep a binder with data on each rig. My K2 is S/N 1289 built in
May of 2000. My notes and data on changes, mods, and accessories that I've
added now fills a 2 inch binder, and that does not include the original
manual! But any time I open it up and ask, What is that for? I can check
the notes and find out. 

For me, every piece of equipment is a work in progress. It's only finished
when I retire it completely. 

Ron AC7AC 


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread JS
First of all, I love K2 and built a number of them.  However, I have similar 
experience for my other rigs.  Sometimes, what happened will depend on band 
conditions.


72/73

Johnny Siu VR2XMC
builder of s/n 1146, 3837, 4165, 4255, 4597
- Original Message - 
From: n5pip [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:01 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: about this K2 mojo





I'll echo what Chris wrote.
I just received my K2 on Monday (4/11/05), purchased from the estate of 
George W5YR (SK).
I was tuning through 17m at 2357z on 4/12/05. Heard a strong 59 station 
running a pileup on 18.135. K9SG/PJ2.
What the heck, I'm running 10w into a vertical. Let me give it a try. 
Whoa!! He's answering me! And we exchange 5x9 !!!
15 minutes later (0112z, 4/13/05) I'm trolling through 20m. A strong S9 
station at 14.202 . A huge pileup. Well, my 10w is fired off again. What? 
he's calling for the Papa India Papa station to try again. This is getting 
really interesting. So I go back, N5PIP/QRP. K9LZJ/PJ2 replies, You're 
5x3, try lower power. So now I'm REALLY sitting up straight, I lower to 5 
watts, get another 5x3. Lower again to 1 watt. Still 5x3. Lower to 1/2 
watt, then 1/10th watt. Still getting 5x3. Now we're BOTH amazed. He wants 
to know what rig I'm running.  ELECRAFT K2, of course, I proudly reply. 
He replies something to the effect that he's going to have to seriously 
look into Elecraft a bit further.

  Now I want to know, do Wayne  Eric pay commissions?
  To paraphrase an older popular commercial, When Elecraft speaks, people 
listen.


73 de Stirling, N5PIP
K2 #0489

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Re: [Elecraft] Potential Elecraft Kit

2005-04-13 Thread John, KI6WX
One of the problems with designing and selling kits is the production 
volume.  Will enough of the kits be sold to justify the cost of developing 
the product.  I don't know if there is enough demand in amateur radio to 
justify the development cost of a spectrum analyzer.


Let me state the design specifications of a hypothetical high-performance 
HF-VHF spectrum analyzer that could be developed as a kit that would retail 
for $500.  To keep the cost down, the analyzer would use a PC for control 
and display; the control of the RF portion would be done through a USB 
interface.  The parts to do this design are available today - no great 
invention is required.


Specifications
Frequency coverage:  100 kHz to 160 MHz
Resolution bandwidth: 100 kHz to 1 Hz
Video bandwidth: 10 kHz to 1 Hz
Dynamic range:  80 dB
Power measurement error: 1 dB
Maximum sweep speed:  10 MHz/second
Maximum input power: +20 dBm
Input noise figure: 20 dB
Windows software included for control, display, printing and saving data; 
user supplies the PC.


Option for $150
Tracking generator to make instrument into scalar network analyzer

It would take about a person-year of effort to design the hardware, write 
the software, and create manuals.  However, I think you would only sell 
about a hundred units per year.  That makes the development cost too high to 
justify the effort.


-John
KI6WX




Gang,
   One of the insturments I always wanted for home use was a spectrum 
analyzer.  Nice to have sound card analyzers with software and all, but a 
real rf analyzer in a small, functional package would be so great. 
With some careful trade off decisions it might even be affordable!  The 
display is a big headache if you don't have a good Oscope handy but a 
creative designer [or two] might be able to do the job.  I suppose it 
would not have the broad appeal of a K1, 2 or even a very compact antenna 
tuner, but it might appeal to a few hundred hams and others who do bench 
work.

Wayne
K9NE
Yes, I know about the projects already on the web, but how many of you 
have actually rounded up all the stuff to build that one?



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RE: [Elecraft] Re: about this K2 mojo

2005-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Stirling, N5PIP wrote:

 I just received my K2 on Monday (4/11/05), purchased from the estate of 
George W5YR (SK).



It's good to know that the Yellow Rose of Texas' rig is on the air and
providing a lot of enjoyment! 

George was a special Ham and a FB QRP operator.

It's always exciting when a good setup, favorable propagation and someone on
the other end who has a good receiver and knows how to use it makes an
seemingly impossible contact very possible indeed! 

It's the sort of excitement that never wears off. 

Ron AC7AC



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[Elecraft] OT:The NJQRP Manhattan Homebrewing Starter Kit

2005-04-13 Thread Andy GM0NWI

Guy's... Apologies for the Off Topic request...

I was just surfin' around...on the net a few moments ago and found 
myself on the American QRP Club website ...lookin' at all the past and 
present kits they have/had available...


After the hopefully not so far away,..completion of my K2..I am hopein 
(...late as it always is in my case) to have a goat the Manhatten Style 
Construction thing..  I unfortunatley missed the
run of the kits that were done to get folks startedon this way of 
construction dunno what I'll do there for parts etc ...will need to 
cross that bridge when I come to it...


In the meantime...I was wondering if anyone on the list ..possibly has a 
copy either in electronic format...or one that theywould'nt mind scanning 
for me of the Manhatten-Style Homebrewing Guide

that is talked about at the link below...??

http://www.njqrp.org/starterkit/index.html

It seems to be quite comprehensive (says its 20 pages or so of info)...so as 
a starter point for myself ...I would'nt mind having a look at this... and 
perhaps later will re-post for any of the starter kits that folks may have 
lying around that they would like to part with..or cant see themselves 
gettin around to actually using in the near future...


For the meantime...has anyone got any way of letting me have a copy of the 
guide (Manual thingy..!) on the website linke above..?


Thanks guys...what a great bunch of boys...

P.S.  Hope I get some of this K2 Mojo when Im finished my kit that 
everyone is talking about..!


Andy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ...I Just See It.!..  John A. Ross 
(RSD Communications circa 2004)

A.R.S.
GM0NWI QRP   ..It is vain to do with 
more A Dis-Orientated Kiwi...
K2 S/n 01432 Soon To Be On-Airwhat can be done with 
less.. In The Northern Hemisphere...


GQRP No.9576
QRP-L No.2165
ARCI No.10561
Central Florida DX Association (CFDXA)
Alaska QRP Club No.190
Flying Pigs QRP Club No. FP#-1061
ICQ No.31899603


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[Elecraft] K2 #4877

2005-04-13 Thread randt
K2 #4877 trying to come to life!
Passing the Alignment and Test,Part 2
This is great,I need to get more sleep
thought,Said when i got k2 i was gonna build
1 hr a night,yea right,more like All Night.
Have fun and thanks for any help I May need
from veteran k2ers.
kc4eyf
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