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Hi Chris, It's very possible to make your own cat food, and I have/do. It isn't as simple as chicken + a cat vitamin, but it isn't that difficult either. Google "Home prepared cat food" and start reading recipes. I use no grain and very few (if any) veggies and fruits. Essential are taurine and calcium, unless you're feeding raw with bone, then you can skip the Ca. I liked the list, as well, as it gave me new foods to look into, but I was disappointed in most of them when I looked at the ingredients. The only one I use from there is Hound and Gatos. The other canned varieties seem to have too many extraneous ingredients, and I don't feed raw to the FeLV group, not even my own preparation. Tiki is way too expensive for me to even consider (I think the Hound and Gatos is too high, as well, but I do keep it in the mix) and most varieties have fish, which may not be good for my FLUTD/FeLV boys. I confess that I feed some "lpw-end" foods, simply beause I like the ingredient lists better than some of the high end ones. It's all a choice :) HTH Margo -Original Message- From: cer...@new.rr.com Sent: Jun 6, 2013 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance That’s a great site-thanks!I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add a cat vitamin? Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later. About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there. I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food: http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/ Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable. On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Lance, Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms. Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it? Kasia ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lorrie, Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended. Kasia Kasia, I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only one became very sick and had to be PTS. The other 9 cats are still fine. One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at a year or so old. Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group. Lorrie On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote: Hello, I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be. Help would be greatly appreciated, Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh crap. Kasia, I'm so sorry. I've been afraid to do that Please, take a deep breath. Your life hasn't ended, and neither has theirs. We need to think this through. Okay. From what I seeJack was the original to test positive for FeLV, and healso has Lymphoma, which is currently being treated. Your other cats are now testing (Elisa?) positive for FeLV. According to this article; http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf there is a possibility that the others MAY not be persistently infected. "The most widely used in-practice tests are antigen ELISA and immunochromatography. As the prevalence of FeLV infection has decreased in many European countries, also false positive test results tend to increase. Therefore, a doubtful positive result in a healthy cat should always be confirmed, preferably using provirus PCR (DNA PCR) offered by a reliable laboratory. A positive test in a cat with clinical signs consistent with FeLV infection is more reliable, as in sick cats the prevalence of FeLV is considerably higher. Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated and retested after several weeks or months; depending on compliance of the owner, retesting can be done still later (up to one year) when it is highly unlikely that the cat will clear the viraemia." It's the same thing I'm facing, if not to the same extent. I don't know if Gribble infected Mako, or vice-versa. Or are there other positives in this bunch, that will show up later, when they have health issues down the road. It's all very complicated. Every tine I think I get a handle on it, something else happens. So I'm trying to go one day at a time. I will make their lives as wonderful as I can, and as comfortable. I will try to make wise decisions, though there are no quarantees. Basically, I will do the best that I can. Again, I'm so very sorry that this has happened. Margo To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group Lorrie, Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended. Kasia Kasia,I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive catsare now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and onlyone became very sick and had to be PTS. The other 9 cats are still fine. One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always adeath sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die ata year or so old. Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.LorrieOn 06-02, kasia mosko wrote: Hello, I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be. Help would be greatly appreciated, Kasia___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Kasia - We've all made mistakes, but we have to go on and do the best we can with what the current situation is. I unknowingly infected a kitten once before I knew much about FeLV. No, your life isn't over. I currently have 4 FeLV cats. 2 I have had for 3 years. They have a much better chance at a longer life if they get it when they are older. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group Lorrie, Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended. Kasia Kasia, I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only one became very sick and had to be PTS. The other 9 cats are still fine. One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at a year or so old. Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group. Lorrie On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote: Hello, I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be. Help would be greatly appreciated, Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at the time they were with the positive cats. I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a good long life in spite of being positive. Lorrie On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote: Lorrie, Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended. Kasia __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Lorrie, Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and two will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats got infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. It is such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; honestly, this is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most important things in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless they are old and ready to go. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at the time they were with the positive cats. I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a good long life in spite of being positive. Lorrie On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote: Lorrie, Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended. Kasia __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm so sorry, Kasia. You and your cats will be in my thoughts and prayers. As Lorrie said, it's very possible that an FeLV+ cat can live for years. I understand how you feel, though. I'm worried about a likely exposure in our house, and I also have an 11 year old FeLV+ girl of my own. Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? Lance On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:19 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Lorrie, Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and two will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats got infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. It is such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; honestly, this is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most important things in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless they are old and ready to go. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at the time they were with the positive cats. I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a good long life in spite of being positive. Lorrie On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote: Lorrie, Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended. Kasia __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Lance, Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms. Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it? Kasia___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later. About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there. I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food: http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/ Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable. On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Lance, Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms. Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it? Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That’s a great site-thanks! I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add a cat vitamin? Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later. About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there. I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food: http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/ Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable. On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Lance, Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms. Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it? Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Chris, That would certainly make sense. Looking at it like that, I guess the extra money paid is going to the convenience of not having to buy chicken, boil it, and prepare it. Nothing more. Side note: Ember is so spoiled by Tiki Cat that she avoids all paté types of foods. It sounds funny, but it might be something to consider before going down that route. I'm in a spot with her where I really, really can't have her not eating even for a few hours. So, Ember's Tiki Cat habit is the boss of me. On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:53 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: That’s a great site-thanks! I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add a cat vitamin? Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later. About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there. I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food: http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/ Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable. On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Lance, Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms. Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it? Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New To Group
Hello, I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be. Help would be greatly appreciated, Kasia___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Kasia, So sorry that you are facing this dilemma. I recently faced the same scenario. Like you, the more I learned, the less I seemed to know. All I can offer is the decision I made. When Gribble was diagnosed in March, he had been with his clowder a year and 2 months. At that time, all_tested_ negative. I asked my Vet whether there was anything to be done, and her words were "that ship has sailed". So I did not vaccinate his companions. However, any new additions and other cats that may come in contact with him will be vaccinated using the Merial rFeLV recombinant vaccine. I decided this when I was placed in a position of adding one more cat, and now it is done. Whether I made the right choice has yet to be determined. You will find that there is no one answer. You will find people who mix, and thise who don't. All I can say is learn what you can, and if you have done that, make the best choice you can for your circumstances. Please let us know if there are specific questions, as someone here may have been in the same position, and will have some insight to offer. All the best, Margo -Original Message- From: kasia mosko <kasia...@yahoo.com>Sent: Jun 2, 2013 10:31 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: [Felvtalk] New To Group Hello, I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be. Help would be greatly appreciated, Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens
Hi all, I'm new to the group. I do Cat rescue for a Northern Virginia group and took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November. They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested FeLV+. All adoptions fell through. They are gorgeous and affectionate. They are now 10 weeks old. All are ELISA + and one tested IFA +. It is assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother. What are the chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for a sanctuary? Chris ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Chris, Since the kittens are now 10 weeks old now, how old were they when they were first tested? And how much time elapsed between the ELISA and the IFA tests? This might mean something...this might mean that maybe they're not really positive. Always a chance for hope. Finding homes, not so great - sanctuaries, far and in-between and filled. Try finding someone who already has a FeLV+ cat - best chance. Good luck! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of chris Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens Hi all, I'm new to the group. I do Cat rescue for a Northern Virginia group and took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November. They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested FeLV+. All adoptions fell through. They are gorgeous and affectionate. They are now 10 weeks old. All are ELISA + and one tested IFA +. It is assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother. What are the chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for a sanctuary? Chris ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The answer is yes. I would try to find adoptive homes but also look into sanctuaries. Obviously adoptive homes would be better and there's a chance. Not a very high chance they could get a home but at least being persian mixes they might can find a home with someone who has FeLV + cats. It will be hard finding them homes because most kittens (not all) that have FeLV will not live past 3 years old so finding someone who is willing to have their heart broken after just a short time will be hard. Definitely test later on like Natalie said. Kittens normally can't get rid of the virus but it's always best to give them more time then repeat the test. In the mean time I would go ahead and put them up for adoption as a FeLV + kitten, if they're healthy right now that is. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:36:40 -0500 From: ch...@beyondbehaviors.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens Hi all, I’m new to the group. I do Cat rescue for a Northern Virginia group and took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November. They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested FeLV+. All adoptions fell through. They are gorgeous and affectionate. They are now 10 weeks old. All are ELISA + and one tested IFA +. It is assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother. What are the chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for a sanctuary? Chris ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I wan to start by saying that you to all of you who post here - I have learned so much from your comments-- much more that I could get from the vet! We have a year old inside kitten (Pebbles) who became pregnant before we got around to getting her spayed. She is absolutely the most loving cat I have ever seen, and no signs of illness until. In mid January she had a spontaneous abortion, so we called the vet and took her in on a Sunday afternoon. They gave her antibiotics and kept her over night to test her, and spay her when she got better. When I called to check on her the next morning, I was told by the vets assistant that she had tested positive to FELV. Not knowing anything about it at that time, I asked what our options were. The first words out of her mouth were euthanizing! I was so upset, and decided not to do that, but to further investigate myself. We had our other cats tested (both negative) and had our male neutered. The vet suggested we not spay Pebbles at that time. Pebbles got home and seemed like her normal self. The only thing I have noticed is that occasionally she and dry food do not mix well - she throws it back up. Could this vomiting be stomachitis?I am checking out other vets in our area, hoping to find one that is more up to date on FelV. Any suggestion anyone has I am open to. Becky Penn Guntersville, AL ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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There is a man from a cat forum I belong to who lives in Guntersville, AL. There is a beautiful lake there that he posted a picture of once. I am so sorry your Pebbles is positive. It is such a shock to hear that diagnosis from a vet about your beloved pet. Everyone here will tell you that the best thing you can do for her is to provide the best food you can afford, (Mine get Wellness canned)and an environment with as little stress as possible. Changing vets is a good idea seeing as the first thing they wanted to do was euthanize. I actually sent a questionnaire around to local vets to try and chose the best one for my positives. It is sometimes difficult to find one who will work with you and your positive. I have two positives and five negatives. My negatives are vaccinated and they all live together without being separated. There are differences of opinion about mixing on this list. I am not the most knowledgeable person on this list but I'm sure there are others who will add to what I have written. Best of luck to both you and Pebbles. Sue Becky Penn be...@wholebackstage.com wrote: I wan to start by saying that you to all of you who post here - I have learned so much from your comments-- much more that I could get from the vet! We have a year old inside kitten (Pebbles) who became pregnant before we got around to getting her spayed. She is absolutely the most loving cat I have ever seen, and no signs of illness until. In mid January she had a spontaneous abortion, so we called the vet and took her in on a Sunday afternoon. They gave her antibiotics and kept her over night to test her, and spay her when she got better. When I called to check on her the next morning, I was told by the vets assistant that she had tested positive to FELV. Not knowing anything about it at that time, I asked what our options were. The first words out of her mouth were euthanizing! I was so upset, and decided not to do that, but to further investigate myself. We had our other cats tested (both negative) and had our male neutered. The vet suggested we not spay Pebbles at that time. Pebbles got home and seemed like her normal self. The only thing I have noticed is that occasionally she and dry food do not mix well - she throws it back up. Could this vomiting be stomachitis?I am checking out other vets in our area, hoping to find one that is more up to date on FelV. Any suggestion anyone has I am open to. Becky Penn Guntersville, AL ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hooray for her! How wonderful to get such good news...my Monday is now complete! Thanks for sharing with us. Sometimes things seem so depressingbut news like this brightens anyone's day!Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do (Edward Everett Hale) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:33:16 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group Oops, truncated message. She tested 30% positive (small, faded dot) at 9 weeks. Same at 11 weeks. Then retested at 5.5 months old- positive again. All 3 were the Elisa test. Then our vet recommended the PCR test, which he says can detect even minute amounts of the virus, and is more accurate than the IFA. Test results came back-- she is negative! We believe this is a miracle, as we didn't hold out much hope she'd turn positive. So it does happen. My Dad has been feeding her EVO, and also probiotics. She is indoors only, up to date on her combo shot, dewormed, and really healthy otherwise. She had a poor appetite though for the most part. She is completely isolated from the other kittens we rescued, and my Dad is super vigilant about washing hands, keeping all areas and bedding, food, etc. separate...-Original Message- From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I just joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola, the 6 month old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA test at 9 weeks, 11 weeks, Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] et wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month 0A helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yah oo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Oops, truncated message. She tested 30% positive (small, faded dot) at 9 weeks. Same at 11 weeks. Then retested at 5.5 months old- positive again. All 3 were the Elisa test. Then our vet recommended the PCR test, which he says can detect even minute amounts of the virus, and is more accurate than the IFA. Test results came back-- she is negative! We believe this is a miracle, as we didn't hold out much hope she'd turn positive. So it does happen. My Dad has been feeding her EVO, and also probiotics. She is indoors only, up to date on her combo shot, dewormed, and really healthy otherwise. She had a poor appetite though for the most part. She is completely isolated from the other kittens we rescued, and my Dad is super vigilant about washing hands, keeping all areas and bedding, food, etc. separate... -Original Message- From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I just joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola, the 6 month old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA test at 9 weeks, 11 weeks, Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] et wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month 0A helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yah oo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Have 2 positive and 3 negatives. One of my pos lived with my 3 negs for years before I even knew she was pos! Nobody has come down with FELV--I vaccinate the negs. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have three positives and four negatives. They have all been together since April. I will have them re-tested before I vaccinate for Feline Leukemia again in March, but to my knowledge they are all still negative. I lost my sweet Tucker in May but my vet assured me he was still negative and the problems he had did not have anything to do with feline leukemia. Sue - Original Message - From: Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have seven catsone, Mandy, is positive. I adopted her in July 2007. I discussed with my long-time vet and we agreed that if all my other six cats (all over five years old) had their vaccinations up to date (he stated that the vaccine is 90+ percent effective), there was very little danger to them. So, 15 months have gone by and all are healthy--including Mandy, who is the absolute picture of health. I believe there is very little danger in mixing as long as kittens are not involved. Pat - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I have three positives and four negatives. They have all been together since April. I will have them re-tested before I vaccinate for Feline Leukemia again in March, but to my knowledge they are all still negative. I lost my sweet Tucker in May but my vet assured me he was still negative and the problems he had did not have anything to do with feline leukemia. Sue - Original Message - From: Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I just joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola, the 6 month old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA test at 9 weeks, 11 weeks, Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Tracey It is a very personal decision. In an ideal world with a perfect setup, I probably would not mix. However in a small house 10 cats and all of them were exposed before the diagnosis I mixed after vaccinating the negative cats. I wound up with 3 positives out of 11 cats and a cat that died just before this but never tested. I am sure he was positive too. Junior lived the longest. I felt it was less stressful mixing them. I did wound up with 3 additional cats. No I did not add them they showed up. The three new cats were kept separate while getting vaccinated and time for it to take effect. None of the other cats became positive. Be aware there is still a risk. Good Luck and bless you for taking care of her. Oh yes I found that the immuno regin helped Junior's gingivitis clear up. It is an immune booster mentioned on teh website. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Try Rescue Remedy on her long before you take her to the vet. I am a fan of PetzLife's products. A couple of us have listed holistic vets who will consult by phone if you don;t have one locally. Do not fixate on what may happen. Focus on the present and the wonderful little friend you have. The future is no guaranteed to any of us. Blessings to you and to her. On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Tracey wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have heard that Coenzym Q-10 can be very helpful with gum problems and heart problems.. I give to my kitties on a weekly basis (I take it myself as well) and also making sure that they get to chew on some raw bones (like thigh bones or wings or backs/necks) will help floss/brush those teeth too. My two are entirely raw-fed and they have great teeth - one came to us with plaque and red gums and has since cleared up. Also - on another note - the more variety in a raw diet the better (meaty bones, muscle meat and organs from different types of animals) to make sure that they are getting all the essential vitamins and aminos they need. if they don't eat bones they need to get calcium from another source and if chicken is all they get they may need supplemental taurine too.There's a great raw yahoo group that I'm a member of - rawcats or there's also rawfedcats.org which has lots of great info on it. Rescue Remedy is AMAZING stuff This group (felv) is a fantastic place for information, ideas, encouragement and ultimately comfort when dealing with this disease. welcome. Beth (Orion + = RIP, Athena +, Ajax +) On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Rescue Remedy on her long before you take her to the vet. I am a fan of PetzLife's products. A couple of us have listed holistic vets who will consult by phone if you don;t have one locally. Do not fixate on what may happen. Focus on the present and the wonderful little friend you have. The future is no guaranteed to any of us. Blessings to you and to her. On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Tracey wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 940.395.5393 God Bless!!! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The holistic vets I consult use a lot of vitamin C too. On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puritan's Pride is a good source. i trust their products. L Lysine is good. also echinea, and my personal favorite is vitamin E. i use it for everything. just not sure about cats. things that never hurt dogs and other animals can do them in. we all need to start searching for reliable sources of info on herbs, oils, etc. when you read about all the side effcts of man made meds, makes you wonder if we should trust them. dorlis Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You Are at the right place for advice. It will vary from person to person. I am so glad you took Macy into your home. Lessening stress is important. Feeding a high quality diet the best you can afford. I say that bc the best that I could afford was different from what other folks feed. Immune boosters are a start. Since many of these cats also have FHV L Lysine is a good start and may alleviate her upper respiratory symptoms. At any rate it will not do any harm and is inexpensive. I got mine from Puritans Pride. I ordered capsules 500mg. You can mix it with wet food. One or two per day depending on symptoms. Well I have to run to work. You will get more information I am sure. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You Are at the right place for advice. It will vary from person to person. I am so glad you took Macy into your home. Lessening stress is important. Feeding a high quality diet the best you can afford. I say that bc the best that I could afford was different from what other folks feed. Immune boosters are a start. Since many of these cats also have FHV L Lysine is a good start and may alleviate her upper respiratory symptoms. At any rate it will not do any harm and is inexpensive. I got mine from Puritans Pride. I ordered capsules 500mg. You can mix it with wet food. One or two per day depending on symptoms. Well I have to run to work. You will get more information I am sure. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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One think that has really worked for Autumn has been brushing her teeth. When she was six months old she suddenly developed terrible breath-odor. I went out and got her a tooth brush from Petsmart the next day. She loves the tste of the toothpaste. It was easier when she was a kitten, but she runs now. I just make sure to get the gum line on either side every day. I can tell a difference, if I miss an area. I think that keeping her gums healthy has been one reason she's enjoyed relatively good health. She eats Innova Evo food, which I can't say enough good things about. She has an excellent coat. She's about 15 months old now. ~Susan On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We inherited a positive kitten a?number of months ago and don't know a whole lot of what we should do to keep her healthy. Macy is such a sweet 7 month old girl. She normally has lots and LOTS! of energy. She has her favorite toys and even puts them in her condo occasionally. In the past couple of days, she's been very quiet and not eating or drinking much. Today, we had to search the house to find her - she normally comes when called. The only thing she'd eat was a small amount of people tuna but didn't drink. For the past few months she's been making noise as she sleeps (very heavy breathing) and occasionally when she's cuddling.?We took her to the emergency vet clinic today. She has a slight fever and a distended tummy. They're keeping her overnight and putting her on an IV and antibiotic. What is the best food for a positive kitten and what supplements seem to work? Our regular vet is willing to listen to whatever we learn. Any recommendations or comments are welcome. Thanks, Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Dawn a lot will depend what the vet tells you. Mine haven't had those symptoms. I have 4 FeLV+ kittens I rescued. They get Chicken Soup Kitten Lovers canned food with supplements, I am currently giving them Lactoferrin, DMG, Super B Complex, B12, folic acid, L-Lysine and Brewers yeast. No idea if any of the supplements are helping but they are healthy 18 week old babies. I also have 2 kittens a yr old I rescued early this yr. They were getting the same supplements mix until I mixed them with my other cats. Now they will only eat everyone else's food. Still trying to figure out a way to get the supplements into them without having to resort to syringing them. Good food, low stress and lots of love are the best treatments. Sharyl On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We inherited a positive kitten a?number of months ago and don't know a whole lot of what we should do to keep her healthy. Macy is such a sweet 7 month old girl. She normally has lots and LOTS! of energy. She has her favorite toys and even puts them in her condo occasionally. In the past couple of days, she's been very quiet and not eating or drinking much. Today, we had to search the house to find her - she normally comes when called. The only thing she'd eat was a small amount of people tuna but didn't drink. For the past few months she's been making noise as she sleeps (very heavy breathing) and occasionally when she's cuddling.?We took her to the emergency vet clinic today. She has a slight fever and a distended tummy. They're keeping her overnight and putting her on an IV and antibiotic. What is the best food for a positive kitten and what supplements seem to work? Our regular vet is willing to listen to whatever we learn. Any recommendations or comments are welcome. Thanks, Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We inherited a positive kitten a?number of months ago and don't know a whole lot of what we should do to keep her healthy. Macy is such a sweet 7 month old girl. She normally has lots and LOTS! of energy. She has her favorite toys and even puts them in her condo occasionally. In the past couple of days, she's been very quiet and not eating or drinking much. Today, we had to search the house to find her - she normally comes when called. The only thing she'd eat was a small amount of people tuna but didn't drink. For the past few months she's been making noise as she sleeps (very heavy breathing) and occasionally when she's cuddling.?We took her to the emergency vet clinic today. She has a slight fever and a distended tummy. They're keeping her overnight and putting her on an IV and antibiotic. What is the best food for a positive kitten and what supplements seem to work? Our regular vet is willing to listen to whatever we learn. Any recommendations or comments are welcome. Thanks, Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
