Re: [gentoo-user] Acer TM2313 NIC problems

2005-08-09 Thread Frank Schafer
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 06:20 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 Frank Schafer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've bought a new Acer TravelMate 2313. I've tried to install this
 weekend.
 Everything seemed to go fine but I don't have a network connection.
 
 The NIC is a SiS 900 PCI fast ethernet adapter. Looking at ``dmesg''
 there everything looks O.K. I see the driver loading, finding the card
 and bringing the link up.
 
 The lights on the NIC are both (continous) lighting. If I do an
 ``ifconfig eth0 down'' followed by an ``ifconfig eth0 up`` the lights
 turn both off for about one second and then both on again.
   
 
 
 Did you assign an address when you did ifconfig eth0 up?  Or does your 
 network use DHCP, and if so, did you run dhcpcd/dhclient to get an address?
 
 The output of ifconfig -a, route -n, and cat /etc/conf.d/net might 
 give us some more clues.
 
 -Richard
 

Thanks Richard,

I've configured eth0 using net-setup (wired network, fixed address).
At the moment I can't send any output of anything. The comp now for
about one week belongs to an authorized service partner of Acer.
There are messages apout resetting the PCI bus and about a failing and
resetting hda in the syslog.
These messages convinced me to give it away for a while.

Regards
Frank

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Badges

2005-08-09 Thread Tibdixious, Daiajo
Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 5 August 2005
11:41 PM
  Even with that background, my transition to Gentoo wasn't 100%
smooth.
If I had tried jumping from Windows direct to Gentoo, without 4+ years
of linux usage, I would've been lost.

I think you are assuming that a Gentoo user would leap right in
to use all of Gentoo's features, which is not necessarily the case.

I've worked on VMS for 20 years (so the command line is not unusual),
and done a few years of C programming on Tru64 Unix, and some trivial
user admin (before even the shadow idea came along), and all this was
more than 10 years ago. I've been on windows for the last 5 years,
telneting to a VMS box to do work.

I followed the AMD64 installation guide carefully, and the only thing
that I fell over on was that the live CD makes the drive it is in
the main drive, while after you boot off the hard drive, the CD
drives may be in a different order. I thought my drive was broken,
and had to manually frig with fstab, which I would have preferred
not to do.

The guide also implies that if you use genkernel, it will be just
like the live CD boot, and either I stuffed that up or its lying.

Anyway, at the moment I'm just playing KDE games.

I also put the power ride badge on my Windows desktop at work.

Oh, I also had SUSE briefly on the system, nice graphical installation,
reiserfs kept failing fsck spuriously, finally booted,
changed the root password, would not boot again, would not let
me logon as root. Anyway, did not learn anything. During the Gentoo
install I learned heaps.

P.S. Setting up GRUB was by far the easiest part.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:24:31 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

 In the last year, I have run XFS, reiserfs v3, and ext3 on my laptop.
 I mostly agree with you, although XFS doesn't really replace entire
 files with zeros, just blocks that have been allocated but not written
 with actual data...so /var/log/messages is likely to get some zeros in
 the event of a bad crash.  Files that were not being written at the
 time of the crash are not affected.

XFS is good for a laptop as it is less likely to suffer a sudden failure
than a desktop, the battery acts as a UPS. As long as you run some sort
of battery monitor that shuts the computer down cleanly when battery
levels become critical, power loss should not be an issue.

 XFS: aggressively caches, so might give you some power 
 savings...although real-world savings are likely to be slight to none.  
 Nice features (the only one that offers a free defragmentation utility, 
 even if it is brain-damaged).  Cannot be shrunk, only grown.

However, it can be grown while mounted, something that is unsafe with the
other filesystems, and something the OP asked for.

 Reiserfs V3: Excellent performance for _some_operations, slower 
 performance for others.  Also can only be grown.

That's not correct. resize_reiserfs can shrink as well as grown, but the
filesystem must be unmounted.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 18:30 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
 On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 23:40:36 +0200
 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello!
  
  What filesystem(s) do you recommend for use on a notebook?
  I'm looking for a FS that's fairly stable even if all of a
  sudden the power goes away (battery empty) and one, that
  also doesn't (overly) unneccesarily spin up the hard drive.
  
 
 Any journaling filesystem is going to spin up the drive or keep it spinning.
 And unless your drive is one of the 7200 rpm drives, it's still not the energy
 hog that the LCD is.

For spinning down and power savings, I recommend using laptop_mode. (You
can see the article I wrote for the MyOSS Magazine (Ed2 I think)
(http:/mag.my-opensource.org) which I wrote about some of the items
which you can use for POwer management in Linux. (also read in Ed4,
Gnome-Power-Manager written by Richard Hughes, the lead developer)



 
 fwiw - I use XFS on my laptop.  It survives fine with power going away.
 But, if all the data is in the buffer and the drive is spun down, having the
 power die will cause lost data regardless of filesystem.

I too use XFS for my Home Directory. I think I've suffered 1 instance of
curruption in the entire 2 years I've had this laptop. (Touch Wood)

 Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Resuming operations after suspend.

2005-08-09 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 06:22 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 Pupeno wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I am tryngi to get suspend to ram working on my IBM Thinkpad G40 but I can't 
 get it to turn on agan. I am able to put it on suspend with klaptop, by 
 hand, 
 or by closing it and this script: 
 http://www.hardeman.nu/~david/thinkpad.php#suspend
 But it never comes up, wehn I open it it makes some noices (the HD working) 
 but the monitor is never turned on.
 Any ideas ?
   
 
 
 I have this problem with my Sager laptop and software suspend 2 unless I 
 add noapic to the kernel boot options.  I would say try noapic 
 and/or pci=routeirq, and see if it helps.


This could be a Video card issue in which it's not being POSTed on
resume. I have this same issue on my laptop. LCD just wouldn't come back
up. I use suspend2 now. (Hibernate to disk. See Edition 1 of MyOSS
Magazine http://mag.my-opensource.org which gives you a rundown of the
features

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[gentoo-user] [OT?] What's going on with X.org?

2005-08-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Hey, all--

I just did an esync and I have a *huge* number of X.org-related masked
packages-- from a whole lot of 'Prototype headers', to fonts, libraries,
and drivers.

Clearly there's big changes a-coming. Oh, I see-- this is modular X.org,
I guess.

Does anyone know where there might be a summary of what this means to a
user generally, or a Gentoo user specifically? The information on the
freedesktop site is more targeted at developers, which doesn't so much
help me, especially since I've got 'special circumstances' (that bloody
ATI card).

I'd really like to know what to expect as this migration propagates down
to me... before it does.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] What's going on with X.org?

2005-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:32:08 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:

 Does anyone know where there might be a summary of what this means to a
 user generally, or a Gentoo user specifically? The information on the
 freedesktop site is more targeted at developers, which doesn't so much
 help me, especially since I've got 'special circumstances' (that bloody
 ATI card).

See the thread entitle 'Modular X plans' on the gentoo-dev list.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/linux.gentoo.dev/browse_thread/thread/674511db8587e1dc/61bc838c6a485964?lnk=stq=modular+x+plansrnum=1hl=en#61bc838c6a485964


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: disk full but lot of space

2005-08-09 Thread Christoph Gysin

Norberto Bensa wrote:

Christoph Gysin wrote:


What makes you believe this has something to do with /tmp?


he's using a pipe (stdin | stdout) 


What have pipes to do with /tmp? A pipe is nothing more than a buffer (in 
memory) between two processes. If there's not enough memory, the buffer could be 
swapped out to the swap partition (if any). Nothing gets written to /tmp.



and nope... I didn't read the whole message.


Please read the posts before answering. If the post is really long, it's okay to 
skip some parts if you mention that in your answer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install - but some progress

2005-08-09 Thread C.Beamer
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Hi All,

When I previously posted and got the response below, it may as well
have been hieroglyphics because I had no idea what Bob was talking
about.  However, when I went back to square one and got to the point
of compiling the kernel, I still used genkernel, but ran the
makemenuconfig utility and saw that the format was as below.  So, I
made the changes that Bob suggested.  Now, I _don't_ get the errors as
in my previous attempt and as displayed below.

Bob Sanders wrote:


 After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt
 back again with the following printed on the screen:

 New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration
 (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this
 means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or
 directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make
 sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel
 module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable
 configuration Fatal server error: no screens found i


 /dev/fb0 is the framebuffer. No need to worry about that if using
 X. But if running a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in
 the kernel. There is a how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to
 setup the system and kernel.

 The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include -

 Device Drivers -- I2C Support -- M I2C support * I2C device
 interface I2C Hardware Bus Support -- M  Intel 810/815

 And -

 Device Drivers -- Character Devices -- Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx
 and E7x05 chipset support


However, x still won't start and I get the  message 'Cannot run in
framebuffer mode'.

I don't think that I changed anything related to framebuffers when I
ran makemenuconfig.

It was also my understanding that although I could use a vga statement
in my grub.conf file to specify a framebuffer device, that with a
gentoo patched kernel, I didn't need to.

So, any idea where I made my mistake?

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] eterm issue

2005-08-09 Thread Arek Murzyn

YoYo siska wrote:


On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 09:01:09AM +0200, Arek Murzyn wrote:
 

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] eterm issue


   


On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:58:11 +0200
Arek Murzyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


I've done something recently on my gentoo and I don't remember what but
   


till
   


that moment I cannot run Eterm or xterm when logged as user. When logged
   


as
   


root everything is working. This issue is known on the web but solutions
does not satisfy me Eterm.
There are messages:
Can't open pseudo-tty --No such file or directory
Unable to run sub-command
Then Eterm window raises and there is only Hit any key to exit
I checked:
- /dev/pty is compiled in kernel
- /dev/pty directory exists and all files within
- symbolic links in /dev exists too
- changed rights to all these files to rwxrwxrwx - nothing helped
2.6.12r6, 2005.0
What can I do more? Changin debugging level in Eterm gives nothing.

   


Did you use Unix98 PTY or Legacy (BSD) Pty?
Also, are you using udev?
And you have Virtual terminal?

fwiw - I haven't seen it here with Unix98 ptys, udev, and 2.6.12-r4.
 


I use udev and Legacy(BSD) with 2.6.12-r6. How to check if I use virtual
terminal?
How to switch to Unix98 - I can't find this option in menuconfig.
Very strange is that root can open eterm without problems, any user (even
with additional group 'root') can't.
I see some messages in logs about pam authentication. Could it be related to
that?

Thanks,

Arek


   



I had such a problem after an upgrade of udev. I didn't run etc-update
and with the old config udev just made the ptys with wrong permissions

after etc-update and a reboot with the new udev config all was well
again...

 


Thanks, could you send me your config file when ude is working?

Br,

Arek
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] What's going on with X.org?

2005-08-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick schreef:
 On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:32:08 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 
 
Does anyone know where there might be a summary of what this means to a
user generally, or a Gentoo user specifically? The information on the
freedesktop site is more targeted at developers, which doesn't so much
help me, especially since I've got 'special circumstances' (that bloody
ATI card).
 
 
 See the thread entitle 'Modular X plans' on the gentoo-dev list.
 
 http://groups.google.co.uk/group/linux.gentoo.dev/browse_thread/thread/674511db8587e1dc/61bc838c6a485964?lnk=stq=modular+x+plansrnum=1hl=en#61bc838c6a485964
 
 
reads
/sighs
/reminds herself that this is ultimately A Very Good Thing
/reads
thanks Neil for the link
Thanks, Neil.
/thanks
wishes the dev team luck and strength in handling what looks like a
huge job
Go, dev team! We believe in you! If anybody can manage this migration
(relatively) painlessly, you can!
hopes for the best

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Problem with tape autochanger

2005-08-09 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
Hi there,

I'm trying to setup a backup system using an HP SureStore 40x6, but
this is the first time I'm using tapes under Linux and I'm a bit lost.

It seems I cannot access the tapes, as I get the following:
cognos ~ # mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind
/dev/nst0: No such device or address
cognos ~ # mt -f /dev/st0 rewind
/dev/st0: No such device or address

cognos ~ # ls -l /dev/nst0
crw-rw  1 root tape 9, 128 mar 10 18:47 /dev/nst0
cognos ~ # ls -l /dev/st0
crw-rw  1 root tape 9, 0 mar 10 18:47 /dev/st0

It seems my system has not detected the tape autochanger, as I only
get the SCSI disk in the list of SCSI devices:
cognos ~ # cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: COMPAQ   Model: BD07296B44   Rev: HPB6
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 03


I have two SCSI adapters:
cognos ~ # lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) GCNB-LE Host
Bridge (rev 32)
:00:00.1 Host bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) GCNB-LE Host Bridge
:00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme
BCM5702X Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
:00:05.0 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Advanced
System Management Controller
:00:06.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02)
:00:08.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic
53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07)
:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme
BCM5705_2 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03)
:00:0e.0 IDE interface: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) CSB6 IDE
Controller (rev a0)
:00:0f.0 ISA bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) CSB6 South
Bridge (rev a0)
:00:0f.2 USB Controller: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) CSB6 OHCI
USB Controller (rev 05)
:00:0f.3 Host bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) GCLE-2 Host Bridge


I think the tape autochanger is connected to the second one (LSI Logic
/ Symbios Logic 53c1030), so I have checked my kernel config searching
for drivers. Everything I can think of seems to be compiled in the
kernel, or as modules I have tried to modprobe, but with no positive
results... any ideas?

Thanks in advance, best regards
Jose

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[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with tape autochanger

2005-08-09 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
2005/8/9, Jose Gonzalez Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm trying to setup a backup system using an HP SureStore 40x6, but
 this is the first time I'm using tapes under Linux and I'm a bit lost.
 
 It seems I cannot access the tapes, as I get the following:
 cognos ~ # mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind
 /dev/nst0: No such device or address
 cognos ~ # mt -f /dev/st0 rewind
 /dev/st0: No such device or address
 
 cognos ~ # ls -l /dev/nst0
 crw-rw  1 root tape 9, 128 mar 10 18:47 /dev/nst0
 cognos ~ # ls -l /dev/st0
 crw-rw  1 root tape 9, 0 mar 10 18:47 /dev/st0
 
 It seems my system has not detected the tape autochanger, as I only
 get the SCSI disk in the list of SCSI devices:
 cognos ~ # cat /proc/scsi/scsi
 Attached devices:
 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
   Vendor: COMPAQ   Model: BD07296B44   Rev: HPB6
   Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 03
 
 
 I have two SCSI adapters:
 cognos ~ # lspci
 :00:00.0 Host bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) GCNB-LE Host
 Bridge (rev 32)
 :00:00.1 Host bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) GCNB-LE Host Bridge
 :00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
 :00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme
 BCM5702X Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
 :00:05.0 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Advanced
 System Management Controller
 :00:06.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02)
 :00:08.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic
 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07)
 :00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme
 BCM5705_2 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03)
 :00:0e.0 IDE interface: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) CSB6 IDE
 Controller (rev a0)
 :00:0f.0 ISA bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) CSB6 South
 Bridge (rev a0)
 :00:0f.2 USB Controller: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) CSB6 OHCI
 USB Controller (rev 05)
 :00:0f.3 Host bridge: Broadcom (formerly ServerWorks) GCLE-2 Host Bridge
 
 
 I think the tape autochanger is connected to the second one (LSI Logic
 / Symbios Logic 53c1030), so I have checked my kernel config searching
 for drivers. Everything I can think of seems to be compiled in the
 kernel, or as modules I have tried to modprobe, but with no positive
 results... any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance, best regards
 Jose
 

There's nothing as posting a question to inmediately find the answer:
I had to modprobe mptbase and mptscsih (MPT Fusion support). Now it
seems to be working

Best regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install - but some progress

2005-08-09 Thread Robert Crawford
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 08:13 am, C.Beamer wrote:
 Hi All,

 When I previously posted and got the response below, it may as well
 have been hieroglyphics because I had no idea what Bob was talking
 about.  However, when I went back to square one and got to the point
 of compiling the kernel, I still used genkernel, but ran the
 makemenuconfig utility and saw that the format was as below.  So, I
 made the changes that Bob suggested.  Now, I _don't_ get the errors as
 in my previous attempt and as displayed below.

 Bob Sanders wrote:
  After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt
  back again with the following printed on the screen:
 
  New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration
  (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this
  means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or
  directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make
  sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel
  module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable
  configuration Fatal server error: no screens found i
 
  /dev/fb0 is the framebuffer. No need to worry about that if using
  X. But if running a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in
  the kernel. There is a how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to
  setup the system and kernel.
 
  The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include -
 
  Device Drivers -- I2C Support -- M I2C support * I2C device
  interface I2C Hardware Bus Support -- M  Intel 810/815
 
  And -
 
  Device Drivers -- Character Devices -- Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx
  and E7x05 chipset support

 However, x still won't start and I get the  message 'Cannot run in
 framebuffer mode'.

 I don't think that I changed anything related to framebuffers when I
 ran makemenuconfig.

 It was also my understanding that although I could use a vga statement
 in my grub.conf file to specify a framebuffer device, that with a
 gentoo patched kernel, I didn't need to.

 So, any idea where I made my mistake?

 Regards,

 Colleen

I didn't see your earlier post(s). so I can only offer general advice.

When you configure the kernel, you need to be sure you have support  for all 
your specific hardware, like cpu, motherboard, video card, USB devices, etc. 
Also, any feature you want, like frame buffer support, different file 
systems, etc.  Once you get the correct .config file for your particular 
system and kernel, you can import it into menu or xconfig on subsequent 
kernel compiles, so save a copy of it somewhere once you get it right.

Some items do better compiled as modules, and some need to be built into your 
kernel. For example, the i2c sensors items do better as modules, and then you 
need to place entries for those modules in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel 
file so they autoload on boot.

You also need to configure X after you get Gentoo installed, and rebooted.
 This doc should help.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

This only works if you have the kernel support for your card compiled in.

 If you still have trouble, another way to get a functional config file for X 
if is to boot to a knoppix-like live cd, which configures X automatically, 
and copy over the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file from it into your Gentoo /etc/X11 
directory, and reboot.

I've never liked genkernel myself, so I always do mine manually. To do this 
correctly, you need to know what hardware you have, and find it in 
menuconfig- Sometimes you need to dig down a level to find things. I prefer 
xconfig over menuconfig.

The kernel section in the Gentoo install doc is pretty good- review it again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with tape autochanger

2005-08-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2005 15:22 schrieb ext Jose Gonzalez Gomez:
 Hi there,

 I'm trying to setup a backup system using an HP SureStore 40x6, but
 this is the first time I'm using tapes under Linux and I'm a bit lost.

 It seems my system has not detected the tape autochanger, as I only
 get the SCSI disk in the list of SCSI devices:
 cognos ~ # cat /proc/scsi/scsi
 Attached devices:
 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
   Vendor: COMPAQ   Model: BD07296B44   Rev: HPB6
   Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 03

Just a guess: What about SCSI Tape (CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST) and/or SCSI Generic 
(CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG) support, maybe also CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN (multiple 
LUNs) in your kernel?

HTH...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread A. R.
On 8/9/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(snip)

 XFS is good for a laptop as it is less likely to suffer a sudden failure
 than a desktop, the battery acts as a UPS. As long as you run some sort
 of battery monitor that shuts the computer down cleanly when battery
 levels become critical, power loss should not be an issue.
 

Absolutely.
I have been using XFS in my IBM Thinkpad for months now without any problems. 
XFS seems to be well suited for laptop use when things are configured
as you just described.

Regards, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Mauro Faccenda
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:24:31 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

Reiserfs V3: Excellent performance for _some_operations, slower 
performance for others.  Also can only be grown.
 
 
 That's not correct. resize_reiserfs can shrink as well as grown, but the
 filesystem must be unmounted.

That's not orrect. resize_reiserfs can resize with the filesystem mounted.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Williams
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 14:42, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 Reiserfs V3: Excellent performance for _some_operations, slower
 performance for others.  Also can only be grown.
 
  That's not correct. resize_reiserfs can shrink as well as grown, but the
  filesystem must be unmounted.

 That's not orrect. resize_reiserfs can resize with the filesystem mounted.

That's not correct. correct is spelt correct. Oh, and reiserfs can be grown 
while mounted, but not shrunk while mounted :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2005 15:42 schrieb ext Mauro Faccenda:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:24:31 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 Reiserfs V3: Excellent performance for _some_operations, slower
 performance for others.  Also can only be grown.
 
  That's not correct. resize_reiserfs can shrink as well as grown, but
  the filesystem must be unmounted.

 That's not orrect. resize_reiserfs can resize with the filesystem
 mounted.

That's also not correct. I guess what Neil wanted to say is: reiserfs can be 
grown online, but needs to be unmounted for shrinking.

Bye...

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[gentoo-user] tomcat5 sun-jdk issue

2005-08-09 Thread Covington, Chris
I'm running www-servers/tomcat-5.0.28-r4 net-www/apache-2.0.54-r13 and
dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08-r1.  Though tomcat works fine, for some reason
I have 56 java processes running each time I restart tomcat?  Anyone
know how this could be?

Here's a ps -ef | grep java:

tomcat   29270 1  0 Aug08 ?00:00:03
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29275 29270  0 Aug08 ?00:00:00
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29276 29275  0 Aug08 ?00:00:07
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29277 29275  0 Aug08 ?00:00:00
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29278 29275  0 Aug08 ?00:00:00
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29279 29275  0 Aug08 ?00:00:00
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29280 29275  0 Aug08 ?00:00:00
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29281 29275  0 Aug08 ?00:00:02
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
tomcat   29282 29275  0 Aug08 ?00:00:00
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/bin/java
-Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/share/tomcat-5/common/endorsed -classpath
/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/lib/tools.jar:/usr/share/tomcat-5/bin/bootstrap.ja
r:/usr/share/commons-logging/lib/commons-logging.jar:/usr/share/commons-
logging/lib/commons-logging-api.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar
-Dcatalina.base=/var/lib/tomcat-5/default
-Dcatalina.home=/usr/share/tomcat-5
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/tomcat-5/default
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start

[gentoo-user] BUG? - bridge-utils no binary?

2005-08-09 Thread Ognjen Bezanov
Hello

I am building a linux AP using a clean installation of gentoo and this
howto:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Building_a_Wireless_Access_Point_With_Gentoo

Everything was going great until I came to emerging bridge-utils.

the actual emerging didnt fail (using emerge bridge-utils -av) but
typing the command brctl it tells me '-bash: brctl: command not found'

next I try whereis brctl, resulting in:

brctl: /usr/man/man8/brctl.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/brctl.8.gz

ok, so the man files are there, it seems the package was installed. but
no binary.

Using find / -name brctl  i also got nothing.

It seems that there is no binary, I have tried emerging again,
unmerging, updating and the like, still the same problem.  The emerge
itself doesnt fail with the usual Error... so I presume thats fine (or
am i wrong that
emerge would halt on all errors?)

Any help appreciated as I am somewhat at a loss as to whats going on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 10:42:42 -0300, Mauro Faccenda wrote:

  That's not correct. resize_reiserfs can shrink as well as grow, but
  the filesystem must be unmounted.
 
 That's not orrect. resize_reiserfs can resize with the filesystem
 mounted.

It can grow but not shrink while mounted. I was referring to shrinking.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

2005-08-09 Thread Robert Svoboda
* A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-07 18:51]:
 On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 With vimdiff how do yo make the actual changes? Can you somehow
  tell it to apply certain lines from file2 to file1 or do you have to
  copy and paste by hand?
 
 If there are minor changes, you can directly edit the update then save,
 quit and merge the update. If there are whole line that are different, you
 can cut and paste between windows (vimdiff colorises too so its easy to
 see what's different and what's not).

It can be even simpler use 'dp' (as Diff Put), where you want
propagate the difference to the other file and do 'do' (Diff
Obtain) to put change from the other file. There is much more
(yeah, it's vim after all :), see :help vimdiff .

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[gentoo-user] Problem updating gcc

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
I'm trying to update the software on my server box, but I keep getting
an error when I try to update gcc to 3.3.5.20050130-r1

* Configuring GCC with:
--enable-version-specific-runtime-libs
--prefix=/usr
--bindir=/usr/i586-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.3.5-20050130

--includedir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include
--datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130

--mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/man

--infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/info

--with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include/g++-v3
--host=i586-pc-linux-gnu
--disable-altivec
--enable-nls
--without-included-gettext
--with-system-zlib
--disable-checking
--disable-werror
--disable-libunwind-exceptions
--disable-multilib
--disable-libgcj
--enable-languages=c,c++,f77
--enable-shared
--enable-threads=posix
--enable-__cxa_atexit
--enable-clocale=gnu

*** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories:
 target-libffi target-boehm-gc target-zlib target-libjava zlib
fastjar target-libobjc
(Any other directories should still work fine.)
Created Makefile in /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build
using mt-frag
gcc-config error: Could not run/locate gcc
*** The command 'gcc -o conftestconftest.c' failed.
*** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.

I don't understand this.  In the Makefile
in /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5-20050130/work/build I see CC set:

CC = gcc

One source of the problem could be this.  When I asked for the version
of gcc to report in this email I get this:

bullet build # gcc --version
/usr/bin/gcc-config: line
571: /etc/env.d/gcc/i586-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130: No such file or
directory
 * /usr/bin/gcc-config: Profile does not exist or invalid setting
for /etc/env.d/gcc/i586-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130
/etc/env.d/gcc/i586-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130 doesnt exist
gcc-config error: Could not run/locate gcc

Any hints on how to fix this?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Richard Fish

Neil Bothwick wrote:

Reiserfs V3: Excellent performance for _some_operations, slower 
performance for others.  Also can only be grown.
   



That's not correct. resize_reiserfs can shrink as well as grown, but the
filesystem must be unmounted.
 



Thanks for the correction.  I'm trying to figure out what I read that 
led me to believe reiserfs could not be shrunk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:09:41 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

 Thanks for the correction.  I'm trying to figure out what I read that 
 led me to believe reiserfs could not be shrunk

Probably the output from resize_reiserfs when you try to shrink. Dire
warnings about beta-quality software and the dangers of hair loss and
organ shrinkage :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] tomcat5 sun-jdk issue

2005-08-09 Thread Andreas Fredriksson
On 8/9/05, Covington, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm running www-servers/tomcat-5.0.28-r4 net-www/apache-2.0.54-r13 and
 dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08-r1.  Though tomcat works fine, for some reason
 I have 56 java processes running each time I restart tomcat?  Anyone
 know how this could be?

These are most likely threads, since so many of them share the same
memory usage.

Try the various ps options that relate to threads and see if you can
make the display prettier.

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Re: [gentoo-user] tomcat5 sun-jdk issue

2005-08-09 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
2005/8/9, Andreas Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 8/9/05, Covington, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm running www-servers/tomcat-5.0.28-r4 net-www/apache-2.0.54-r13 and
  dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.08-r1.  Though tomcat works fine, for some reason
  I have 56 java processes running each time I restart tomcat?  Anyone
  know how this could be?
 
 These are most likely threads, since so many of them share the same
 memory usage.
 
 Try the various ps options that relate to threads and see if you can
 make the display prettier.
 
 Regards,
 Andreas
 
As Andreas told you, you're most likely watching Java threads. I seem
to remember that after installing NPTL (Native Posix Thread Library)
support a Java virtual machine with all its threads maps to just one
linux process, so you would stop seeing that many processes every time
you lanch a multithreaded Java application... anybody can confirm
this?

Best regards
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[gentoo-user] NCFTP in passive mode...

2005-08-09 Thread Steve [Gentoo]

Can anyone see where I'm going wrong.

I'm behind a NAT box which precludes my use of active-FTP but not 
passive.  I have verified this both with Windows based FTP clients and 
with the latest unmasked vanilla ftp from portage.  When I try to use 
ncftp, however, I run into difficulties:


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NcFTP 3.1.8 (Jul 27, 2004) by Mike Gleason (http://www.NcFTP.com/contact/).
ncftp set passive on
ncftp open ftp.mirror.ac.uk
Resolving ftp.mirror.ac.uk...
Connecting to ftp.mirror.ac.uk...

Welcome to the JISC National Mirror Service.

... Blurb omitted
Logging in...

Login successful.
Logging in...
Logged in to ftp.mirror.ac.uk.

ncftp /  ls
Data connection timed out.
List failed.
ncftp / 
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NCFTP also fails when I leave passive at the default optional (which 
allegedly automatically determines if passive ftp is required) - and 
when I set passive to on, off or optional in .ncftp/prefs_v3.


Does ncftp work in passive mode for other people?




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[gentoo-user] [OT?] Dynamic DNS using Gentoo

2005-08-09 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
Hi there,

I currently have a DSL connection with a fixed IP using a DSL router,
with an internal network of 4 computers with private DHCP IPs (except
the server, with fixed private IP). Now I'm considering changing to
another provider with dynamic IPs. I have three domains hosted in my
SOHO server (let's say example1.com, example2.com and example3.com)
including mail for two of them. The questions are:

1. Which dynamic DNS provider do you prefer and why (I would prefer a free one)?
2. Which is the best dynamic DNS client available in Gentoo, taking
into accout that it must be able to discover the DSL router's
dynamically assigned IP and connect with the chosen provider?

I would like to be able to keep my domain names, but using a dynamic
IP DSL connection, this is, I don't want to change to any URL like
example.no-ip.com or example.dyndns.org. So I thought I could just add
some CNAMEs entries to my DNS service (kind of www.example1.com CNAME
example.dyndns.org and mail.example1.com CNAME example.dyndns.org) to
get what I want, but here:

http://www.dyndns.org/services/dns/

they say the free service doesn't support using your own domain
names... does this mean that you must pay if you want to include your
own domain name in their DNS servers, but the whole CNAME stuff should
work if you have a DNS service available elsewhere? Has anyone ever
tried this?

Thanks in advance, best regards
Jose

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Dynamic DNS using Gentoo

2005-08-09 Thread Jarry

Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:


I currently have a DSL connection with a fixed IP using a DSL router,
with an internal network of 4 computers with private DHCP IPs 



2. Which is the best dynamic DNS client available in Gentoo, taking
into accout that it must be able to discover the DSL router's
dynamically assigned IP and connect with the chosen provider?


Well, I think, this could be easy done by your broadband soho router.
Most of them have already support for all common dyndns providers...

I'm facing the opposite problem: I have gentoo-server with bind running
(with static IP, outside of my home network) and I'm looking for the way
my home router (asus wl500g) with dyn-ip could use it as dyddns instead
of dyndns.org...

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RE: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Dynamic DNS using Gentoo

2005-08-09 Thread Dave Nebinger
Jose,

I'm currently DHCP behind DSL so I have the kind of setup you're looking at.
Apart from the obvious configuration things you'll have some other things to
keep in mind, like who is doing the DHCP negotiation for the IP address?  If
the router is, it must be able to interact with the dynamic dns service,
otherwise you get into having to script something on the server side to
fetch the ip info from the router and connect to the remote ip address when
a change takes place.

I don't think you'll find a free service that allows for hosting your own
name... Trust me, the small fee for dyndns.org is worth it to keep things
working.  With the fee in place whenever my ip address changes I can ping
dyndns.org to have the ip address change and, so far, I have no complaints
about it at all.

As for the software, look for ez-ipupdate.  It handles most of the dynamic
dns sites including dyndns.org and others.

In any case ez-ipupdate might be a good source for dynamic dns services; if
ez-ipupdate handles it then it's typically a good service.



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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-09 Thread Fernando Meira
Hi again Sean,
thanks for answering (as well the others :))

more questions:
On 8/8/05, Sean Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mmhmm... the webcam / video-conference stuff is not something I havemuch expirience with either, sorry to say.As far as the other software
is concerned I would look at the crossover office fork of wine (assumingthat wine itself won't run it) or maybe some virtualization softwaresuch as vmare.
Yes, that might be the best I can do now.
I been looking for VMWare and Wine and from what I read, I prefer Wine,
but does it run everything, most of it or almost nothing?
I read it is must harder to install/configure, but I'll give it a try. Or is there anyone to convince me that VMWare is better?
I'll erase my windows partition and merge it with gentoo's one. I'll
end up with ~15Gb for gentoo... which seems to be fairly acceptable. In
a future stage, I might convert my share partition from FAT32 to a
linux like. By the way, I use reiserfs on my gentoo's partition. Will I
have problems to resize it?

About the videoconference, I checked the forum and got aware of the cvs version of amsn which already supports it. :)

 3) Convert hda5 to ext3|reiserfs|jfs|mature non-fat fs of choice.Mount
 it as /home. The reason it is FAT32 is to windows be able to access it. With windows away, I could do that.Right.Keep in mind that with VMWare you can mount your linux home
directory as a SMB share.Another advantage of a seperate/home is that you can reinstall the OSwithout effecting your important personal data and settings. I realizeon your current system /mnt/share really handled some of that but
thought I'd mention it as well.
Yes, that was the main reason to have my personal files on other partition. 
As I said, converting this partition will be the next step after removing windows and installing wine.
 
Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Dynamic DNS using Gentoo

2005-08-09 Thread Christian Parpart
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 19:02, Jarry wrote:
 I'm facing the opposite problem: I have gentoo-server with bind running
 (with static IP, outside of my home network) and I'm looking for the way
 my home router (asus wl500g) with dyn-ip could use it as dyddns instead
 of dyndns.org...

Heya, I faced rather the same problem and solved it as follows:

I provided a CNAME record within my zone (being served on my public inet host)
that points to a dyndns record. This gets updated regulary using ddclient then


Well, this is still a solution that *depends* on services like dyndns, but the 
other solution would be in enabling the mysql useflag, and writing a cgi 
script - that could be invoked via wget for example - that updates teh mySQL 
records within your own controlled zone; 
(but I didn't find the time to write this yet)

Regards,
Christian Parpart.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Dynamic DNS using Gentoo

2005-08-09 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 09 août à 18:51:15 Jose Gonzalez Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

| Hi there,

Hi Jose,

|
| I currently have a DSL connection with a fixed IP using a DSL router,
| with an internal network of 4 computers with private DHCP IPs (except
| the server, with fixed private IP). Now I'm considering changing to
| another provider with dynamic IPs. I have three domains hosted in my
| SOHO server (let's say example1.com, example2.com and example3.com)
| including mail for two of them. The questions are:
| 
| 1. Which dynamic DNS provider do you prefer and why (I would prefer a free 
one)?

www.zoneedit.com

I won't say I prefer it, I only tried this one and never felt the need to
change; it is free

|
| 2. Which is the best dynamic DNS client available in Gentoo, 

I believe ddclient is the standard client; it works like a charm; the
config file already has it all set up for dynsys.org or zoneedit.org, so
it's fairly easy; it can be on any of your computers, ie not necessarily
on the router - of course it has to be awake all the time though. 

| taking
| into accout that it must be able to discover the DSL router's
| dynamically assigned IP and connect with the chosen provider?

Well, what else would you expect of such a program? :- )

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Billy Holmes

Richard Fish wrote:

In the last year, I have run XFS, reiserfs v3, and ext3 on my laptop.  I 


I've ran xfs, jfs, reiserfs v3 and v4, and ext3.

jfs on a firewire drive is a bad idea. When it crashes, it crashes hard. 
No amount of recovery was helpful. In the end, a week old backup, and a 
reformat with a new filesystem got me back to production.


XFS has been very good to me. I like the performance, and power outages 
have done nothing to the integrity of the file data.


reiserfs3 is good for some things. It treats lots of small files really 
well. Large files aren't a problem either. It eats major CPU cycles 
compared to other filesystems.


reiser4 is faster when it comes to throughput, and certain non-realworld 
scenarios, such as creating tens of thousands of directories, or 
deleting millions of files. Eats CPU cycles like there is no tomorrow. 
Not a good filesystem for a highly interactive desktop. If your concern 
is throughput, and you don't need interactivity (a file server in a 
closet, enclosed in cement) then it would probably make you very happy - 
provided you don't get burned when a new kernel revision comes out that 
totally breaks it.


ext3 uses the least cpu of all the filesystems. It's not at snappy as 
xfs or reiser4, but the code base is very stable when it comes to linux. 
There are also many, many (did I mention many?) utilities, documents, 
and guru's out there that can help you rebuild your ext3 filesystem in 
case it really eats itself.


I use ext3 on an external harddrive, as I believe in the data recovery 
aspects of ext3. For my desktop machines, I use xfs. For servers, I use 
ext3 unless I really feel I need the extra performance, then I use xfs.


I do not know of any Linux filesystem that can be resized while still 
mounted.


$ man xfs_growfs

[snip]
xfs_growfs expands an existing XFS filesystem (see xfs(5)). The 
mountpoint argument is the pathname of the directory where the 
filesystem is mounted. The filesystem must be mounted to be grown (see 
mount(8)). The existing contents of the filesystem are undisturbed, and 
 the added space becomes available for additional file storage.

[snip]

you *must* have the filesystem mounted in order to use xfs_growfs. XFS 
lends itself VERY well to lvm2 (which also runs on all my desktops).

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Re: [gentoo-user] tomcat5 sun-jdk issue

2005-08-09 Thread Billy Holmes

Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:

I seem
to remember that after installing NPTL (Native Posix Thread Library)
support a Java virtual machine with all its threads maps to just one
linux process, so you would stop seeing that many processes every time


I can confirm this. I run the blackdown jdk, and without NTPL, all 
threads look like processes. WITH NTPL, all threads are rolled into 
their process... you can look at them like this:


$ ps xH

H - shows you the threads of the process.
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-09 Thread Sean Reiser


On 8/8/05, *Sean Reiser* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


mmhmm... the webcam / video-conference stuff is not something I have
much expirience with either, sorry to say.  As far as the other
software
is concerned I would look at the crossover office fork of wine
(assuming
that wine itself won't run it) or maybe some virtualization software
such as vmare.


Yes, that might be the best I can do now.
I been looking for VMWare and Wine and from what I read, I prefer 
Wine, but does it run everything, most of it or almost nothing?


heh... that's exactly right. :)  It really depends on who you are 
and what you are doing.  I think I mentioned that I'm using the 
codeweaver crossover office port (http://www.codeweavers.com/).  Take a 
look both the wine site and their site to see if the applications you 
are looking to run will run.


I read it is must harder to install/configure, but I'll give it a try. 
Or is there anyone to convince me that VMWare is better?


They are entirely different products (I use both).  WINE is an api layer 
where VMWareis a true VM.  You'll get better better compatibility at the 
cost of RAM and performance.  I tend to use VMWare for a testing 
environment and WINE for running applications. 

I'll erase my windows partition and merge it with gentoo's one. I'll 
end up with ~15Gb for gentoo... which seems to be fairly acceptable. 
In a future stage, I might convert my share partition from FAT32 to 
a linux like. By the way, I use reiserfs on my gentoo's partition. 
Will I have problems to resize it?


Even though reiserfs lets you do it I wouldn't resize the volume with it 
mounted (seems far too risky for my gut).  As I mentioned I would do a 
backup first (can't stress that enough).  Any time I've done this type 
of work I have booted from a live CD, backed up (and verified), scrogged 
and repartitioned, and then restored. 

FileSystem Caveat:  Although my last name is Reiser, I am not related or 
associated with reiserfs (or to Hans himself). Do not believe that I 
know more about reiserfs based on the strength of my last name.



 3) Convert hda5 to ext3|reiserfs|jfs|mature non-fat fs of
 choice.  Mount
 it as /home.


 The reason it is FAT32 is to windows be able to access it. With
 windows away, I could do that.

Right.  Keep in mind that with VMWare you can mount your linux home
directory as a SMB share.

Another advantage of a seperate  /home is that you can reinstall
the OS
without effecting your important personal data and settings.   I
realize
on your current system /mnt/share really handled some of that but
thought I'd mention it as well.


Yes, that was the main reason to have my personal files on other 
partition.
As I said, converting this partition will be the next step after 
removing windows and installing wine.


Sounds like a good direction.

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[gentoo-user] 'Cannot run in framebuffer mode'

2005-08-09 Thread Benno Schulenberg
C.Beamer wrote:
 However, x still won't start and I get the  message 'Cannot run
 in framebuffer mode'.

Well, what does your xorg.conf look like?  And the relevant things 
in the Xorg log and the kernel config?  In short, the output of the 
following commands:

cat  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
egrep  WW|EE|--  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
egrep  FB_|FRAME  /usr/src/linux/.config

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Re: [gentoo-user] BUG? - bridge-utils no binary?

2005-08-09 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
...SKIP...


 Ognjen Bezanov wrote:

 Hello

 I am building a linux AP using a clean installation of gentoo and this
 howto:

 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Building_a_Wireless_Access_Point_With_Gentoo


 Everything was going great until I came to emerging bridge-utils.

 the actual emerging didnt fail (using emerge bridge-utils -av) but
 typing the command brctl it tells me '-bash: brctl: command not found'

 next I try whereis brctl, resulting in:

 brctl: /usr/man/man8/brctl.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/brctl.8.gz

 ok, so the man files are there, it seems the package was installed. but
 no binary.

 Using find / -name brctl  i also got nothing.

 It seems that there is no binary, I have tried emerging again,
 unmerging, updating and the like, still the same problem.  The emerge
 itself doesnt fail with the usual Error... so I presume thats fine (or
 am i wrong that
 emerge would halt on all errors?)

 Any help appreciated as I am somewhat at a loss as to whats going on.

 thanks



It's in /sbin/brctl. Could use 'qfile brctl' to get the package (part
of portage-utils).
Or use which brctl as root to get: /sbin/brctl
HTH. Rumen



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[gentoo-user] Gentoo glibc-2.3.2 install help

2005-08-09 Thread CJ Keist

Hello all,
First time user of Gentoo.  We're wanting to run Matlab R14 SP2 
64bit mode.  According to Matlab site they support the Linux kernel 
2.6.x and glibc-2.3.2.  Non of the current linux distro (i.e. Fedora) 
has that old of glibc.  So looking at Gentoo thinking I can build the 
Gentoo system based on glibc-2.3.2.
I'm doing a stage 1 install, and not quite understanding this 
portage tree stuff.  I have tried to put the following in 
/etc/portage/package.mask:


=sys-libs/glibc-2.3.3

and /etc/portage/package.unmask

=sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r12

but bootstrapping the system is failing with deps on glibc newer than 
what I want.  Am I going about this wrong




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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 20:46, Christian Parpart wrote:

 However, I once have (accidently!) thrown down one harddrive of mine from
 within 60cm distance down while moving to a new tower/rac; I were nearly
 crying about, but before, I quickly invoked fsck.xfs on my LVM (which this
 disk is part of) and *really* got confused.
 fsck.xfs is really a no-op. I couldn't figure out yet why. I can now just
 pray that everything seems to go just well (as it does till now ;)

hm, some harddisks tell you in their smart-data, if the shock was over a 
certain safety threshold. Maybe you should use your copy of smartmontools and 
copy your data onto a different disk ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which filesystem for a notebook?

2005-08-09 Thread Bob Sanders
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:33:27 +0800
Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 I too use XFS for my Home Directory. I think I've suffered 1 instance of
 curruption in the entire 2 years I've had this laptop. (Touch Wood)
 

Perhaps I should mention one of the main reasons I use XFS - the tools.  
Performance
is not a reason.  Reliability is a reason.  And the tools.

xfs_check and xfs_repair are about the best I've seen.  No, if your LVM 
superblock is
trashed, they won't fix it.  They fix the filesystem, not the disk/partition 
structure.

And xfs_dump/xfs_restore make cloning a partition very easy.  Given all the 
discussion
in this list alone about cloning drives, I'm really surprised more people don't 
adopt XFS
just for this issue alone.

Disclaimer - yes I work for SGI.  No I don't develop, I break software.  And I 
pull plugs
on running systems.  So any advice I give here on anything related to SGI 
products
should be treated with caution. No, I don't speak for SGI.  And yes I really do 
use XFS
on almost all my systems - Trying ext3 on a Kurobox (200 MHz PPC runnng Gentoo) 
and
RiserFS on one of the desktop x86 systems.

Bob
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[gentoo-user] Re: Problem updating gcc [SOLVED]

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:49 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I'm trying to update the software on my server box, but I keep getting
 an error when I try to update gcc to 3.3.5.20050130-r1
 
 * Configuring GCC with:
 --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs
 --prefix=/usr
 --bindir=/usr/i586-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.3.5-20050130
 
 --includedir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include
 --datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130
 
 --mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/man
 
 --infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/info
 
 --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include/g++-v3
 --host=i586-pc-linux-gnu
 --disable-altivec
 --enable-nls
 --without-included-gettext
 --with-system-zlib
 --disable-checking
 --disable-werror
 --disable-libunwind-exceptions
 --disable-multilib
 --disable-libgcj
 --enable-languages=c,c++,f77
 --enable-shared
 --enable-threads=posix
 --enable-__cxa_atexit
 --enable-clocale=gnu
 
 *** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories:
  target-libffi target-boehm-gc target-zlib target-libjava zlib
 fastjar target-libobjc
 (Any other directories should still work fine.)
 Created Makefile in /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build
 using mt-frag
 gcc-config error: Could not run/locate gcc
 *** The command 'gcc -o conftestconftest.c' failed.
 *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
 
 I don't understand this.  In the Makefile
 in /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5-20050130/work/build I see CC set:
 
 CC = gcc
 
 One source of the problem could be this.  When I asked for the version
 of gcc to report in this email I get this:
 
 bullet build # gcc --version
 /usr/bin/gcc-config: line
 571: /etc/env.d/gcc/i586-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130: No such file or
 directory
  * /usr/bin/gcc-config: Profile does not exist or invalid setting
 for /etc/env.d/gcc/i586-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130
 /etc/env.d/gcc/i586-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130 doesnt exist
 gcc-config error: Could not run/locate gcc
 
 Any hints on how to fix this?
 
I ran gcc-config and fixed it.  I apologize for this interruption...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo glibc-2.3.2 install help

2005-08-09 Thread Zac Medico

CJ Keist wrote:

Hello all,
First time user of Gentoo.  We're wanting to run Matlab R14 SP2 
64bit mode.  According to Matlab site they support the Linux kernel 
2.6.x and glibc-2.3.2.  Non of the current linux distro (i.e. Fedora) 
has that old of glibc.  So looking at Gentoo thinking I can build the 
Gentoo system based on glibc-2.3.2.
I'm doing a stage 1 install, and not quite understanding this 
portage tree stuff.  I have tried to put the following in 
/etc/portage/package.mask:


=sys-libs/glibc-2.3.3

and /etc/portage/package.unmask

=sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r12

but bootstrapping the system is failing with deps on glibc newer than 
what I want.  Am I going about this wrong




Have people reported any problems with newer versions of glibc?  If not, you 
should at least try a current stable version.

If you want to run an old version of glibc then it's probably easier if you use 
an old portage tree.  Maybe you can use an old gentoo release cd.

Zac

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-09 Thread Fernando Meira
On 8/9/05, Sean Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll erase my windows partition and merge it with gentoo's one. I'll
 end up with ~15Gb for gentoo... which seems to be fairly acceptable. In a future stage, I might convert my share partition from FAT32 to a linux like. By the way, I use reiserfs on my gentoo's partition.
 Will I have problems to resize it?Even though reiserfs lets you do it I wouldn't resize the volume with itmounted (seems far too risky for my gut).As I mentioned I would do abackup first (can't stress that enough).Any time I've done this type
of work I have booted from a live CD, backed up (and verified), scroggedand repartitioned, and then restored.
I've been looking for comments about this process... and I got a little bit scared.
In my case, i have (in order):
- /dev/hda1 - 9.8G windows
- /dev/hda2 - EXTENDED
- 
/dev/hda5 - 23G share
- /dev/hda3 - 512Mb swap
- /dev/hda4 - 4.6G gentoo

So, am I wrong or is it impossible to merge hda1 and hda4 with hda5 in between?
I could rearrange swap and even create /boot, but I wont be able to move (at least at the time being) my share partition.
If I'm right, then what are my choices?

Could I:
- backup up gentoo's partition (maybe using SysRescueCD: http://www.sysresccd.org/
- format windows partition, create /boot at the beginning of the hd, use the rest for gentoo system
- use the actual gentoo partition for /home (or would it be better to other like /usr ??)
- restore gentoo system on the 1rst partition and fix boot.

Is there any better idea?
Maybe after a month or so, I may be able to move my SHARE and arrange this better...

FileSystem Caveat:Although my last name is Reiser, I am not related or
associated with reiserfs (or to Hans himself). Do not believe that Iknow more about reiserfs based on the strength of my last name.
eheheh.. :) 

Good Luck.
Thanks, I'll need it. 

Fernando.




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Dynamic DNS using Gentoo

2005-08-09 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
2005/8/9, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 
  I currently have a DSL connection with a fixed IP using a DSL router,
  with an internal network of 4 computers with private DHCP IPs
 
  2. Which is the best dynamic DNS client available in Gentoo, taking
  into accout that it must be able to discover the DSL router's
  dynamically assigned IP and connect with the chosen provider?
 
 Well, I think, this could be easy done by your broadband soho router.
 Most of them have already support for all common dyndns providers...
 
 I'm facing the opposite problem: I have gentoo-server with bind running
 (with static IP, outside of my home network) and I'm looking for the way
 my home router (asus wl500g) with dyn-ip could use it as dyddns instead
 of dyndns.org...
 
 Jarry

I currently own a 3com 812 router (a bit outdated) so I think I don't
have that functionality built in the router. Anyway, I have taken a
look at ddclient (suggested by Jean) and seems to have some kind of
support for my router...

Thanks, best regards
Jose

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo glibc-2.3.2 install help

2005-08-09 Thread CJ Keist

Yes,
Running Matlab on current release will just core dump.  Also tried 
the fix on Matlab site where you modify the .matlab7rc.sh file.  So I'm 
thinking it has to be a problem with the new glibc on current releases. 
 This is on Fedora 3 and 4 as well.  Fedora 2 sort of works but not well.




Zac Medico wrote:

CJ Keist wrote:


Hello all,
First time user of Gentoo.  We're wanting to run Matlab R14 SP2 
64bit mode.  According to Matlab site they support the Linux kernel 
2.6.x and glibc-2.3.2.  Non of the current linux distro (i.e. Fedora) 
has that old of glibc.  So looking at Gentoo thinking I can build the 
Gentoo system based on glibc-2.3.2.
I'm doing a stage 1 install, and not quite understanding this 
portage tree stuff.  I have tried to put the following in 
/etc/portage/package.mask:


=sys-libs/glibc-2.3.3

and /etc/portage/package.unmask

=sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r12

but bootstrapping the system is failing with deps on glibc newer than 
what I want.  Am I going about this wrong




Have people reported any problems with newer versions of glibc?  If not, 
you should at least try a current stable version.


If you want to run an old version of glibc then it's probably easier if 
you use an old portage tree.  Maybe you can use an old gentoo release cd.


Zac



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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the scenes payola

2005-08-09 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:52:10PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:

 http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox
 
 Just wondering if anyone had heard of this. Although, if true, it
 certainly doesn't surprise me with todays corporate ethics as they are.
 Just a bad mark on Mozilla.
 

I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with this. Google pays Mozilla to 
make Google the default search engine for Firefox. Mozilla could have 
made it Yahoo or someone else, but Google paid them and that's bad? This 
seems the same to me as Ford offering a television show free cars so 
that whenever you see a car in the show, it's a Ford. This is as old as 
advertising itself.

Mind you, all the link has is rumor and innuendo to go on. No solid 
proof. A supposed insider blogger makes an accusation, they ask for 
corroborating documents which haven't yet been filed, and the principals 
have no comment for them. They've interpeted the silence of those 
involved to mean their guilt. Despite the fact that they aren't 
_required_ to disclose any information about the matter, either way, 
except perhaps in quarterly filings. While they may indeed be guilty, 
this is scant evidence to even make such an accusation, much less grant 
it any credence.

Paul

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[gentoo-user] OT - How to work with USB DVD-RW/CD-RW drive

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
My internal CD-R drive has been experiencing steadily
worsening power fluctuations over the past year or so.
 I haven't been able to write CDs in Windows in
months, but until recently could still write them in
Gentoo.  I ordered a Pacific Digital USB DVD-RW/CD-RW
drive on August 1 and it came in today.  I'm not quite
sure how to go about using it though.  I mainly use
xcdroast for writing CDs (I make daily backups and
write them to CD once a week.)  I use GNOME, and
although my new drive shows up in the computer:///
nautilus listing, it is not available to be selected
in xcdroast - it's not listed at all.  I don't even
know where to start looking for the solution to this
problem.  Can anyone help me?


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage

2005-08-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Fernando Meira schreef:

 I've been looking for comments about this process... and I got a little
 bit scared.
 In my case, i have (in order):
  - /dev/hda1 - 9.8G  windows
 - /dev/hda2 - EXTENDED
 - /dev/hda5 - 23G   share
 - /dev/hda3 - 512Mb swap
 - /dev/hda4 - 4.6G gentoo
 
 So, am I wrong or is it impossible to merge hda1 and hda4 with hda5 in
 between?
 I could rearrange swap and even create /boot, but I wont be able to move
 (at least at the time being) my share partition.
 If I'm right, then what are my choices?

Honestly, I'm not quite sure why you feel the driving need to merge
anything.

*You are a Linux user. You can mount partitions wherever you want.*

I don't think you can merge hda1 and hda4 without setting up LVM, but
there's no reason that you can't boot from a LiveCD, mount the
newly-empty hda1 to /mnt/temp, rsync the contents of /usr (or /var, or
whatever) to that partition, rename the current /var (or /usr, or
whatever) folder to var(usr).tmp, then edit your fstab to mount hda1 to
/var.

If it all works properly, erase /var(usr).tmp, and the space is free.

That's how most of us get extra space on the fly when there's no other
choice and it has to be done relatively quickly and with minimal
disturbance (as opposed to major repartitioning that might be necessary
for something like setting up LVM).

HTH,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] udev and initrd

2005-08-09 Thread Joe Rizzo
Hi-
I am trying to convert to using udev instead of devfs.  I need to load a
raid controller module to access to root fs.  I am using mkinitrd to
create the initrd, however the root partition is not mounting.

The driver module is loading but the root partition is not mounting.
The partition is fine and ext3 is compiled into the kernel.  This was
working when using devfs.

How do I get this to work?  Do I need devfs compiled into the kernel?

Thanks for the help,
Joe Rizzo

Loading 3w-9xxx.ko module
3w-9xxx: scsi0: AEN: WARNING (0x04:0x0008): Unclean shutdown
detected:unit=0.
scsi0 : 3ware 9000 Storage Controller
3w-9xxx: scsi0: Found a 3ware 9000 Storage Controller at 0xfd10,
IRQ: 29.
3w-9xxx: scsi0: Firmware FE9X 2.06.00.009, BIOS BE9X 2.03.01.051, Ports:
4.
  Vendor: AMCC  Model: 9500S-4LP  DISK   Rev: 2.06
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
SCSI device sda: 703057920 512-byte hdwr sectors (359966 MB)
SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back, no read (daft)
SCSI device sda: 703057920 512-byte hdwr sectors (359966 MB)
SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back, no read (daft)
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Mounting /proc filesystem
Creating block devices
Creating root device
Mounting root filesystem
mount: error 6 mounting ext3
pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2
umount /initrd/proc failed: 2
Freeing unused kernel memory: 196k freed
Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to
kernel.

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[gentoo-user] 802.1q/VLAN issue

2005-08-09 Thread Joe Rizzo
I updated my gentoo system.  After emerging system and world, the system
does not work with VLANs if the interfaces are configured via the
net.eth0 script.  However if I configure the interface manually it
works.  This worked before I updated.  Any Ideas?

The conf.d/net file is below.

Thanks,
Joe Rizzo


# cat /etc/conf.d/net
config_eth0=(
null
)

vlans_eth0=16

config_eth0_16=(
10.8.16.16 broadcast 10.8.16.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
)

routes_eth0_16=(
-net 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0 gw 10.8.16.1
)

# ip addr
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
link/ether 00:50:45:5c:13:cc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop qlen 1000
link/ether 00:50:45:5c:13:cd brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
42: eth0.16: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue
link/ether 00:50:45:5c:13:cc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 10.8.16.16/24 brd 10.8.16.255 scope global eth0.16

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RE: [gentoo-user] udev and initrd

2005-08-09 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Joe Rizzo wrote:

 Thanks for the response.  I think I'm having an issue unrelated to udev.

 3ware tech support said the driver included with the kernel was old and
 suggested to build the latest driver as a module.

Why not do away with initrd and just build the driver intyo into the
kernel? A lot simpler and less hassle all round.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the scenes payola

2005-08-09 Thread Bob Sanders
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:14:26 -0400
John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Even IF only one of those allegations are true, I'm disappointed in
 Mozilla's choices. They were, until a few days ago, non-profit. Google
 may be the best general purpose search engine out there right now, but
 IF Mozilla made it the default for cash, I have a problem with that. If
 Mozilla knows that a Google search deposits cookies from sites never
 visited, I have a problem with that. 
 

So, I checked and it seems that Firefox has Google as the default search engine.
But it lets me change that search engine to Yahoo and even add search engines.
And it saves my preference.

And you're saying that taking money to continue to support development with
the return of having Google as the default is bad?  Even though the end user
can still tailor that default?

 IF anything in that article is true, and you think that that type of
 underhandedness (is that a word?) and deception is OK, fine. I don't.


What's underhanded about advertising?  That's all it is.  The end user is not 
locked
in to a specific search engine.  Underhanded is locking the search engine 
choice after
taking money, not rotating a specific engine to the top as a pre-configured 
default. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - How to work with USB DVD-RW/CD-RW drive

2005-08-09 Thread Bob Sanders
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:15:45 -0700 (PDT)
Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Gentoo.  I ordered a Pacific Digital USB DVD-RW/CD-RW
 drive on August 1 and it came in today.  I'm not quite
 sure how to go about using it though.  I mainly use
 xcdroast for writing CDs (I make daily backups and
 write them to CD once a week.)  I use GNOME, and
 although my new drive shows up in the computer:///
 nautilus listing, it is not available to be selected
 in xcdroast - it's not listed at all.  I don't even
 know where to start looking for the solution to this
 problem.  Can anyone help me?


Hmm...in a shell, as the root user, you'll need to determine what cdrecord 
likes.
You may need to try -

cdrecord -scanbus
cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA
cdrecord -scanbud dev=sg
 
Generally, USB attached drives show up as SCSI devices, thus an - ls /dev 
will return
a list with an sdx, where x is a,b,c, etc.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux comm program

2005-08-09 Thread Bob Sanders
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:51:55 -0400
Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone aware of  a decent comm program for Linux?  Something along the 
 lines of SecureCRT for Windows?  (SecureCRT is a commercial program.  There's 
 supposed to be a Linux port in progress but I'd much prefer to use Open 
 Source.)  I can't seem to find anything but stuff that was written in the 
 '90s like minicom  or programs that have limited capabilities.  For example, 
 Komport (KDE's serial comm program) is limited to a 25 x 80 screen, despite 
 the fact that it's a GUI program.  I'm looking for a GUI program with a 
 scrollback buffer, scripting, multi protocol support (ssh in all its various 
 flavors, serial port, telnet, rlogin), session logging, etc.  This is the 
 kind of technical itch that I would think lots of programmers would scratch, 
 but I haven't been able to find anything close.
 

No gui program I know of.  But Ruby will allow you to do all that.  As it 
supports
the tk widget library, among other interfaces, the gui is fairly straight 
forward.

Bob
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