Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Vishnu Mohan is out of the office.

2006-08-04 Thread Jason
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-04 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 20:58 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 13:20 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

  They're great devices - you can often
  buy a multimeter (every geek should have one :) with a current clamp (or
  transducer) thrown in.  That way you have no wiring, no inline plugs,
  and you won't even have to turn the PC off to install it!
 
 Dang. I have to kick myself for calling myself a Geek.

yeah, I have sore shins too...

  Here's one that is just a current clamp [fluke.com.au]:
  http://www.fluke.com.au/auen/products/Fluke+320.htm?catalog_name=FlukeAustralia
  but you can buy a normal multimeter with the option too...
 
 Hmm.. How does it work? Perhaps a google search or go through
 howstuffswork.com would help.

how does it work or how do you use it?  You use it by clipping the
claws around one wire that you're interested in...

um, I just came across a problem - it won't work with an AC power cord,
because you have active and neutral both going through the clamp in
opposite directions, hence they'll cancel each other out.  You need only
the active going through the clamp...  oh well, it was a nice idea.

But how it works (with AC) is something like this:  AC produces a
field around the wire as it flows.  This field in turn will induce a
current in a wire placed close to it.  Loop a wire (transducer) around
another wire (AC current flow), and you can inference the change in
current in the original wire by measuring the current flow in the loop.

It doesn't work with DC, as DC doesn't create a field (at least, not
when it's steady.  When switching on and off a DC device, you'll still
get a change in current)

IANAE(lectrician), so this might be complete bunkum, but that's how I
remember it anyway.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer

...forgot one...:

http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146468

keep booting!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with quota

2006-08-04 Thread Noack, Sebastian
 thats right.. but always been  this way... i can figure out was wrong


 On 8/3/06, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Thiago Lüttig wrote:

  /dev/sda4   /home  ext3  defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2 

 Should not it be: defaults,usrquota,grpquota?
 At least in my fstab it is so, and I'm having no problems...

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Btw isn't defaults unnecessary if other options are specified?

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[gentoo-user] GCC Upgrade Problems - Why does emerge --sync not work

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Watson

Hi there, I've been trying to upgrade my Gentoo Laptop to 3.4.6 with the
upgrade guide.. Everything seemed to go OK except now when I issue
emerge --sync I get the message


Starting retry 3 of 3 with rsync://140.211.166.165/gentoo-portage
Checking server timestamp ...

rsync: failed to connect to 140.211.166.165: Connection refused (111)
rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(107)
[receiver=2.6.8]
.

I thought maybe I would repeat the upgrade process but can't get passed
emerge --oneshot sys-libs/libstdc++-v3. The compilation starts and then
always seems to freeze at

In file included from
/var/tmp/portage/libstdc++-v3-3.3.4/work/gcc-3.3.4/gcc/expr.c:39
/var/tmp/portage/libstdc++-v3-3.3.4/work/gcc-3.3.4/gcc/recog.h:227: warning
type of bit-field mode is a GCC extension.

I have a feeling I removed all the old GCC versions previously with
emerge -aC =sys-devel/gcc-3.3* which is why it keeps failing.

Another problem is that my laptop randomly freezes solid since upgrading GCC
necessating a power cycle in order to get going again.

I'm sort of thinking of rebuilding my system from scratch (presumably with
emerge -e system and then emerge -e world) or am I just wasting lots of
time.

I susppect I've done something stupid ...

Thanks anyone, Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Michael Crute wrote:
  Is
 it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the
 disk?

Yes. Use fdisk to do so. Changing the part. types won't hurt
the other partitions.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-04 Thread Remy Blank
Iain Buchanan wrote:
 um, I just came across a problem - it won't work with an AC power cord,
 because you have active and neutral both going through the clamp in
 opposite directions, hence they'll cancel each other out.  You need only
 the active going through the clamp...

Or only the neutral. It doesn't matter, actually.

 But how it works (with AC) is something like this:  AC produces a
 field around the wire as it flows.  This field in turn will induce a
 current in a wire placed close to it.  Loop a wire (transducer) around
 another wire (AC current flow), and you can inference the change in
 current in the original wire by measuring the current flow in the loop.
 
 It doesn't work with DC, as DC doesn't create a field (at least, not
 when it's steady.  When switching on and off a DC device, you'll still
 get a change in current)
 
 IANAE(lectrician), so this might be complete bunkum, but that's how I
 remember it anyway.

You almost got it. Actually, it's not necessary that the current be AC:
even a DC current produces a magnetic field around the conductor (albeit
a DC field). The clamp is a ferromagnetic ring that concentrates the
magnetic field, and it is interrupted at one location by a hall-effect
sensor that measures the magnetic field. The current can be calculated
from the magnetic field intensity and the diameter of the clamp ring.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/3/06, Statux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, I guess from here, I too will ask my own question stemming from this
one: How do I get a bootloader (lilo preferably for me) to boot a device
which may not always be in the same place like a SCSI-ish disk?


Pay attention to BIOS drive mappings.

Boot loaders like grub work based on the BIOS's idea of bootable
devices.  I haven't used lilo in a few years, but grub references BIOS
disks as hd0, hd1,   So FEX if you have 2 SATA drives connected to
SATA ports #1 and #2, you can typically configure the BIOS to boot #1
(hd0 in grub) first, then #2 (hd1).  If you reverse the boot order of
the drives in the BIOS, then hd0 in grub will be #2, and hd1 will be
#1.

If you have a BIOS that will boot from a USB hard drive, and configure
the BIOS to boot from that first, then hd0 in grub will refer to the
USB drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/3/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

 I will change my system from ATA to SATA.
 Is there somethng special to consider for this in beforehand?
 (...before I will not be able anymore to post to this list a
 cry of help ... ;) :O) )))


Make sure to build scsi disk support into your kernel (=y, not =m).
Grub setup should be fairly easy, just make a device.map that has:

(hd0) /dev/sda

and follow the normal grub setup instructions.  If you need help here, just ask.

The other thing I would suggest for your kernel is build USB and
IEEE1394 support as modules.  This will prevent any USB/firewire hard
drives from confusing the sdX sequencing of the kernel and udev, at
least for your SATA drives.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Missing font in Opera

2006-08-04 Thread Stuart Howard

I have discovered that if I emerge the previous package opera-8.54
then the fault goes away ie. all text is displayed normally but when I
return to opera 9 then the fault returns.
I guess there is no point raising a bug as it will almost certainly be
my system not the package. Is there a list anywhere of the standard
fonts that are used with linux distros? [ones that the opera people
would be using]
running from a term gives no clue as opera does not feedback errors to it.

stu



On 30/07/06, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes I have re-emerged Opera and run revdep-rebuild.

the USE flags are :
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/opera-9.00  USE=spell -debug -gnome
-qt-static 0 kB

thanks for the reply

stu

On 28/07/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 27 July 2006 23:48, Stuart Howard wrote:

  I have misplaced some fonts or at least I think I have, I use Opera
  for a browser but since the xorg migration the transfers page has no
  text and the progress bar shows boxes instead of text.
  This I presume is a font issue and probably happended during the upgrade
  does anyone know which font it is that Opera uses and that I therefore
  need to emerge or is it likly that I am just missing a link or
  similar?
 
  Any pointers will be happily recieved

 Starting from the beginning, have you re-emerged Opera and have you run #
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map to /dev ???

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map 
to /dev ???
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:19:09 -0700

 On 8/3/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
   Trying to write some udev rules to map two identical (model wise)
   SATA-harddiscs to different entries in /dev/. got a question mark
   into my head:
 
 I don't see any obvious way of doing this with udev.  I have some
 identical USB drives that I use, and I can identify them by serial
 number, but this doesn't seem possible for SATA drives.
 
 Your best bet may be to mount filesystems by label, or use LVM to
 accomplish something similar.
 
 -Richard
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Hi Richard !

 (if just a moment before a incomplete posting by me has arrived you
 and/or the list: SORRY! I pressed the wrong button accidentaly)

 Is this logically/technically correct, Richard:?

 - The BIOS recogizes the first disk (grub: hd0) only by the bus it
   is attached to: A disk connected to SATA connector 1 will be hd0,
   and another one connected to SATA connector 2 will be hd1
 - Therefore grub can distinguish the disks and choose the correct one
   to boot from right from the BIOS settings and the bus ID even all
   disks attached to the system are physically and model-wise
   absolutely identical.
 - So, booting a kernel image from the correct disk will be no
   problem.
 - Now...I will label the root of my bootdisk (grub: hd0) with root 
   (only as an example...) and pass that as kernelparameter:

 root=root

 - The system will boot and find its root also.
   In the net it was mentioned that one has to configure the kernel
   to recognize partition labels...was this an old featire or what
   do I have to configure where? I searched through /proc/config.gz
   and found nothing appropiate as I found nothing in
   /usr/src/linux/Documentatio. Any idea ?

 Is this correct so far ?

 Leep booting !;)
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[gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
Hi,

 is there a way to label partitions which have already been formatted
 with mkreiserfs and have data on it ?

 The manpage does not make that clear enough for me to check it on 
 a running system..

 Kind regards, 
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map to /dev ???

2006-08-04 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Friday 4 August 2006 06:14, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

  But: How can I distinguish both harddiscs?

On one of my system, I run a raid 1 array with two identical disks (hde 
and hdg), and I have this (sorry for the line wraps):

[Fri Aug 04 11:38:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[cut]
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 20 10:50 
ata-Maxtor_6Y080L0_Y2CG9M5E - ../../hde
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 20 10:50 
ata-Maxtor_6Y080L0_Y3J1HW3E - ../../hdg

Those device names DO include the disk's serial number, and are (I 
suppose) created by udev. So, just plug in each of your identical drives 
and look at the devices which udev creates. Once you identify the exact 
names (probably under /dev/disk/by-id), use those names to distinguish 
between the drives wherever you need to.

The strange thing is that udev obviously knows the serial number of each 
drive (udevinfo -q all -n /dev/sda *DOES* show the device's serial 
number), but it seems that no file under /sys contains this information 
(for hard disks, at least), so it looks like it's not possible to use a 
regular udev rule to create different devices (but, as I said above, 
seems that udev is somehow able to do that by itself - if somebody has 
more info please tell). I could probably be missing something here.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Janusz Bossy

You can always run mkreiserfs and, after that, restore the data with reiserfsck.

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[gentoo-user] Again SATA: hdparm - dma ???

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
Hi,

 what tool do I need to get/set the complete set of parameters of
 SATA-hds?

 Or in other words: Is SATA under linux scsi or ide ?
 (what a crazy question...)

 With hdparm I only get:
  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
  readonly =  0 (off)
  readahead= 256 (on)
  geometry = 30401/255/63, sectors = 488392002, start = 63

 Kind regards,
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WARNING ! Re: [gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: Janusz Bossy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:57:23 +0200


! WARNING ! *** WARNING ! *** WARNING ! *** WARNING ! *** WARNING !


 At least for me, this does not work! 
 I applied mkreiserfs -l root to a SATA disk with the root fs on
 it and later reiserfsck. reiserfsck did not find any inconsistency
 because

ALL DATA WERE ERASED !!



! WARNING ! *** WARNING ! *** WARNING ! *** WARNING ! *** WARNING !


 The question remains:
 How can I apply a label to an alreasy populated reiserfs-partition ???

 Kind regards,
 mcc


 You can always run mkreiserfs and, after that, restore the data with 
 reiserfsck.
 
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Re: WARNING ! Re: [gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 4. August 2006 14:43 schrieb ext Meino Christian Cramer:

  I applied mkreiserfs -l root to a SATA disk with the root fs on
  it and later reiserfsck. reiserfsck did not find any inconsistency
  because

   ALL DATA WERE ERASED !!

Of course, that's what mkreiserfs is for. AFAIK mkreiserfs also tells you so 
and even asks for confirmation. The rest is up to you.

  The question remains:
  How can I apply a label to an alreasy populated reiserfs-partition ???

reiserfstune

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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al

2006-08-04 Thread Ralph Seichter
Ralph Seichter wrote:

 I'll try to figure out exactly which modules can be used to access
 the network controller (sk98lin, skge or sky2).

emerge --update --deep world finished over night, and this is what I
see after booting with an empty /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6:

# lsmod
Module Size  Used by
nls_utf8   2688  0
ntfs  94664  0
i2c_viapro10264  0
via82cxxx  9732  0 [permanent]
skge  40080  0
nfs  221744  0
lockd 67216  1 nfs
sunrpc   168776  2 nfs,lockd
ata_piix  14212  0
sata_vsc   9732  0
sata_sis   9476  0
sata_sx4  14980  0
sata_nv   11652  0
sata_via   9988  2
sata_svw   9220  0
sata_sil  11912  0
sata_promise  13700  0
libata75288  9 ata_piix,sata_vsc,sata_sis,sata_sx4,sata_nv,
   sata_via,sata_svw,sata_sil,sata_promise
sbp2  25096  0
ohci1394  34504  0
ieee1394 106104  2 sbp2,ohci1394
ohci_hcd  21124  0
uhci_hcd  24088  0
usb_storage   71104  0
usbhid43040  0
ehci_hcd  33160  0

# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0
  0: 1772896 IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:1103 IO-APIC-edge  i8042
  8:   0 IO-APIC-edge  rtc
  9:   0 IO-APIC-level acpi
 12: 105 IO-APIC-edge  i8042
 14:  50 IO-APIC-edge  ide0
 16:   0 IO-APIC-level ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2, uhci_hcd:usb3,
   uhci_hcd:usb4, uhci_hcd:usb5
 17:   2 IO-APIC-level ohci1394
 18:   3 IO-APIC-level ohci1394
 19:3270 IO-APIC-level libata
 20:3351 IO-APIC-level skge
NMI:  64
LOC: 1772885
ERR:   0
MIS:   0

The kernel which I compiled supports sk98lin, skge and sky2 as modules,
and it seems like skge is automatically chosen. BTW, shouldn't used by
have a non-zero value for skge when the network controller is active?

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[gentoo-user] testing SATA drives

2006-08-04 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Hi folks:

I have a server that failed under fedora a while back,  the EXT3
partition ended up with thousands of errors on it and the journal
corrupted itself into oblivion.  I was able (I don't know how) to
recover my data, but I wiped it out formatted the drives and installed
gentoo.  I now want to test the drives (they are now blank except for
the os) to see if the problem was with fedora and lvm (the old one) or
if it is a physical or electrical problem with the disks.  The disks are
SATA drives 2x 250gb -- I am not sure how to proceed and I googling has
not been helpful -- it may be there, I just haven't found it.

The server is a spare till I can validate it, then it will be moved back
to production status.  The result of that is, its ok if the testing
takes some time etc.

Thanks for all your help

Timothy A. Holmes
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Re: [gentoo-user] testing SATA drives

2006-08-04 Thread Rasmus Andersen
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 09:36:16AM -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
 if it is a physical or electrical problem with the disks.  The disks are
 SATA drives 2x 250gb -- I am not sure how to proceed and I googling has
 not been helpful -- it may be there, I just haven't found it.

Use a livecd/knoppix thing and run badblocks(8) on them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-04 Thread Ted Ozolins
Remy Blank wrote:

Iain Buchanan wrote:
  

um, I just came across a problem - it won't work with an AC power cord,
because you have active and neutral both going through the clamp in
opposite directions, hence they'll cancel each other out.  You need only
the active going through the clamp...



Or only the neutral. It doesn't matter, actually.

  

But how it works (with AC) is something like this:  AC produces a
field around the wire as it flows.  This field in turn will induce a
current in a wire placed close to it.  Loop a wire (transducer) around
another wire (AC current flow), and you can inference the change in
current in the original wire by measuring the current flow in the loop.

It doesn't work with DC, as DC doesn't create a field (at least, not
when it's steady.  When switching on and off a DC device, you'll still
get a change in current)

IANAE(lectrician), so this might be complete bunkum, but that's how I
remember it anyway.



You almost got it. Actually, it's not necessary that the current be AC:
even a DC current produces a magnetic field around the conductor (albeit
a DC field). The clamp is a ferromagnetic ring that concentrates the
magnetic field, and it is interrupted at one location by a hall-effect
sensor that measures the magnetic field. The current can be calculated
from the magnetic field intensity and the diameter of the clamp ring.

-- Remy


Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response.

  

Well you almost got it right.  The clamp is just a basic transformer
being the secondary winding. Since AC current flow changes both in
amplitude and direction, induces a current flow in the secondary
winding, the clamp. The current is then rectified and the measurement
then is displayed on a meter.  I've used high voltage transformers from
old monitors to monitor and trigger alarms signaling excessive current
change. Basically just a home made clamp.

Cheers.

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Re: WARNING ! Re: [gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:43:38 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

  Wouldn't it have been safer to have tried it on a USB stick first?
 
   ...I did copy the whole rootfs to a previously total empty SATA
   disk and used THAT hd for experimenting...
 
   I am not /that/ blind...

:-)

I prefer to do such filesystem experimentation on a USB stick, loop
device or spare LVM partition. Any action involving the words untested
and root is to be rigorously avoided :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems

2006-08-04 Thread Pete Pardoe
Thanks Guys,That cleared it up and so I went back and tried modular X again - it worked except that I have no keyboard this time - any thoughts on this?PeteOn 8/3/06, 
Toby Cubitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:43:26AM +0300, Mantas Povilaitis wrote: On 8/3/06, Pete Pardoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  =x11-base/xorg-
x11-6.9 (is blocking  I have tried emerge --cleanx11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and emerge --prune x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there. it is written = before package name, so 
6.8 counts too (6.86.9)Your problem is that the modular xorg is now in the stable tree, soportage is trying to upgrade to the modular xorg when you do an emergeworld (if you look further down the list of packages that emerge world
is trying to install, you should see xorg-x11-7.0). The dependenciespulled in by modular xorg have to be installed before xorg-x11 itselfcan be upgraded, but they are blocked by your currently installed,non-modular 
xorg-x11-6.8.There are two solutions: unmerge the non-modular xorg-x11-6.8, andthen merge the modular xorg-x11-7.0 (following the migration guide onwww.gentoo.org). But you seem to have already tried this.
The second solution is mask modular xorg by adding the linex11-base/xorg-x11-6.8to /etc/portage/package.mask (including the , obviously). Thenportage won't try to upgrade xorg, it won't pull in all those
dependencies that block on your version of xorg, and portage shouldstop complaining.HTH,Toby--PhD StudentQuantum Information Theory groupMax Planck Institute for Quantum OpticsGarching, Germany
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Re: [gentoo-user] Missing font in Opera : Solved

2006-08-04 Thread Stuart Howard

On the off chance someone else gets this error the solution was :-

I for whatever reason [2 year old system] had not set my locale in
/etc/locale.gen
I did this and ran locale-gen and whoosh problem has gone away.

Only problem now is that I have migrated to firefox, ho hum what a choice :)

stu

ps. Firefox has come on a long way since last I used it.

On 04/08/06, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have discovered that if I emerge the previous package opera-8.54
then the fault goes away ie. all text is displayed normally but when I
return to opera 9 then the fault returns.
I guess there is no point raising a bug as it will almost certainly be
my system not the package. Is there a list anywhere of the standard
fonts that are used with linux distros? [ones that the opera people
would be using]
running from a term gives no clue as opera does not feedback errors to it.

stu



On 30/07/06, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes I have re-emerged Opera and run revdep-rebuild.

 the USE flags are :
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] www-client/opera-9.00  USE=spell -debug -gnome
 -qt-static 0 kB

 thanks for the reply

 stu

 On 28/07/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 27 July 2006 23:48, Stuart Howard wrote:
 
   I have misplaced some fonts or at least I think I have, I use Opera
   for a browser but since the xorg migration the transfers page has no
   text and the progress bar shows boxes instead of text.
   This I presume is a font issue and probably happended during the upgrade
   does anyone know which font it is that Opera uses and that I therefore
   need to emerge or is it likly that I am just missing a link or
   similar?
  
   Any pointers will be happily recieved
 
  Starting from the beginning, have you re-emerged Opera and have you run #
  revdep-rebuild?
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  Regards,
  Mick
 
 
 


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[gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-04 Thread Remy Blank
Ted Ozolins wrote:
 Well you almost got it right.  The clamp is just a basic transformer
 being the secondary winding. Since AC current flow changes both in
 amplitude and direction, induces a current flow in the secondary
 winding, the clamp. The current is then rectified and the measurement
 then is displayed on a meter.  I've used high voltage transformers from
 old monitors to monitor and trigger alarms signaling excessive current
 change. Basically just a home made clamp.

This is getting really OT, but as far as I remember my electricity
lectures, what you describe is a current transformer. For it to work
somewhat reliably, you have to wind the wire to be measured around a
ferrite core, which already has a secondary winding where the current is
measured. And yes, it only works for AC currents.

The clamps we use (which are admittedly in the higher price range)
measure the magnetic field directly using Hall-effect sensors, and also
work for DC currents. The nice thing with this measurement principle is
that it is independent of the placement of the clamp relative to the
wire. It just has to go through the clamp.

I couldn't find a nice explanation of the measurement principle, but
here's at least something:

  http://support.fluke.com/find-sales/Download/Asset/1989065_A_w.pdf

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Re: [gentoo-user] Again SATA: hdparm - dma ???

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 what tool do I need to get/set the complete set of parameters of
 SATA-hds?


You don't.  DMA, NCQ, and the like are enabled automatically if they
are supported by the driver, chipset, and drive.  hdparm -tT can still
be used to test the throughput however.


 Or in other words: Is SATA under linux scsi or ide ?
 (what a crazy question...)


The interface is through the SCSI subsystem, but it could also be
called an IDE drive, since the definition of IDE is Integrated Drive
Electronics, and these drives definitely have most of their smarts
built-in.

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[gentoo-user] barnyard sguil output plugin doesn't work

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Welz

Hello.
I installed snort, sguil-sensor and barnyard on one of my machines and I 
can't start barnyard. Does someone has a running installation and could 
tell me the version numbers of all three programs? I suspect that the 
version numbers of barnyard and sguil don't fit, i.e. that the sguil 
patch on barnyard doesn't work.


The sguil USE flag on barnyard is set.

When I start by command line:

Merkur snort # barnyard -c /etc/snort/barnyard.conf -d 
/var/lib/sguil/Merkur -g /etc/snort/gen-msg.map -s 
/etc/snort/sid-msg.map -f snort_unified.log -w /etc/snort/waldo.file -L 
/var/lib/sguil/Merkur -a /var/lib/sguil/Merkur/archive

Barnyard Version 0.2.0 (Build 32)

WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: mysql
WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: sensor_id 0
WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: database sguildb
WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: server 192.168.6.122
WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: user root
WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: password pass
WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: sguild_host 192.168.7.122
WARNING /etc/snort/barnyard.conf (136) = Unrecognized argument for 
Sguil plugin: sguild_port 7736


My barnyard.conf:

...
output sguil: mysql, sensor_id 0, database sguildb, server 
192.168.6.122, user root, password pass sguild_host

 192.168.7.122, sguild_port 7736


Thank you for help,
Robert Welz

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Re: [gentoo-user] XEN on Gentoo, enough stable for production use ?

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Welz

Xavier MOGHRABI wrote:

Hi guys,

I've learnt months ago the existing of Xen project. I think this kind of 
feature is really interesting for hosting heterogeous application, improve 
security of my system and reduce the maintain effort.


I wonder if any of yours have already experienced Xen on Gentoo ?
I wonder if Xen is enough stable to use in production ?

Thanks in advance for your information.


Hi.
I use XEN (latest) without migration and have no big problems so far. 
The only big problem I had was to set up the network addresses of the 
domU's to their own subnet and to have dom0 routing instead of bridging. 
But that was to solve mainly with some websites which describes that 
task. And I disabled tx checksumming on the network interfaces in each 
domU to make the network go but this was discussed on the xen mailing list.


My network speed from one xenized machine to another xenized machine is 
asymetric ( 30 MByte/s vs. 15 MByte/s (roughly) from DOM0 to DOM0, 
depending on the direction, measured with iperf ) on GB Ethernet but I 
believe that my hardware is the bottleneck, not XEN. I will further 
investigate the problem when I have some spare time.



Robert

BTW. I didn't use genkernel, I configured the kernel by hand.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Labeling reiserfs partitions
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:16:29 + (UTC)

 Alexander Skwar listen at alexander.skwar.name writes:
 
 
  Janusz Bossy wrote:
   You can always run mkreiserfs and, after that, restore 
   the data with reiserfsck.
 
  Hm - is it possible to kick such lamers like Janusz?
 
  Alexander Skwar
 
 Sure, I was temporarily 86'd from the list for being
 a 'bone-head' about iptables.
 
 I'm still hard-headed, I just try to keep 'issues'
 to myself
 
 On another note, frequent  creation and updates to 
 wikis allows for quick responses to these sort
 of recurring questions.  If the talented
 folks create such wiki pages, the bone-heads could 
 easily learn to refer questions to the wikis in
 lieu of all of this repetition, and misguided
 responses Furthermore, ordinary gentoo-linux
 readers could volunteer to maintain these wikis,
 thus reducing the burden on the pool-o-genius.
 Perhaps a tool like eix/esearch that first
 (priortizes) searches for official/unofficial wiki-responsed 
 to these common questions?
 
 Furthermore, it would attract more folks to Gentoo.
 
 hth,
 
 James

There are three common problems left for those like me asking
repetitioned questions:

1.) Most search engines of wikis are as bone-headed as those trying 
to answer the question like the above example. Search engines dont 
understand any context.

2.) For one not being a native English speaker it is often difficult
to get the right words for the right match.

3.) Sometimes one can describe the problem without the faintest idea
of any keyword to be filled into such [CENSORED] search engines.

Without the evolution of search engine into finding enginges mailing
lists will exist, where questions are answered more than once.

Kind regards,
mcc
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Re: [gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Janusz Bossy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You can always run mkreiserfs and, after that, restore the data with reiserfsck.


WTF!!!  Yeah, in theory, your suggestion might work.  But it would be
like going down stairs by jumping, and then having the doctor fix your
broken legs!!

To answer Meino's question:
reiserfstune -l new label /dev/...

-Richard
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Re: WARNING ! Re: [gentoo-user] Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am Freitag, 4. August 2006 15:43 schrieb ext Meino Christian Cramer:

   But the idea, which was posted, was (cite):

   You can always run mkreiserfs and, after that, restore the data with
 reiserfsck.

OK. Yes, that was pure bull...


Yeah, I think janusz meant to say something like reiserfsck
--rebuild-tree.  But it was still an incredibly stupid thing to
recommend someone else to do...

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know what the heck is going on here? I mean this is TOTALLY
unacceptable. I know it is not gentoos fault, it's ATI putting out crap
drivers... But this is SO FRUSTRATING not having reliable 3D :(


Yeah, one of my main requirements for my new laptop was an Intel or
Nvidia GPU, because I got sick and tired of ATIs shit.  NVidia is
better, but still not perfect.  We can only hope that AMDs purchase of
ATI will result in some better cooperation with the opensource
community...eventually.

For now, the only other option you have for 3D support is to try out
the reverse-engineered r300 driver.  If you have a recent enough
kernel, you can turn on Device Drivers-Character Devices-Direct
Rendering Manager and ATI Radeon.  Then using the radeon driver and
standard DRI setup, you might get hardware 3D acceleration.

I have never used it, so I can't say how well the reverse-engineered
driver works.  I do know it is still very much a work in progress
though, the more recent the kernel, the better.  You might also have a
look at the table in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h and
compare to your vendor and device id (from lspci -n output), to see if
your chip is supported by the in-kernel driver before going through
the trouble.


What can I do? I have struggled in the past very hard with getting DRI to work
in xorgs radeon driver, but it takes cvs versions of this and overlays of


Most of that should now be resolved with recent kernels and x.org versions


that and blah blah blah... A real pain I should be able to get 3D going
here, preferrably without ATI's drivers, i mean this card has been out for a
while What do I do? So frustrating..


The problem is that ATI doesn't release programming specs either.  So
it is not simply a matter of time before something works...that only
applies if the company will at least work with the interested devs.
ATI has demonstrated very little interest in providing decent linux
support.  If you have a choice, don't buy them.  Again, we can only
hope that the purchase by AMD goes through and changes the culture,
but don't hold your breath.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Noack, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The kernel which I compiled supports sk98lin, skge and sky2 as
modules,
 and it seems like skge is automatically chosen. BTW, shouldn't used
by
 have a non-zero value for skge when the network controller is active?

No, the used by column of lsmod just tell you which other modules
depend on the corresponding module.


Not really.  Used by is a reference count that can be incremented by
either dependant modules, or by open devices.  As an example from my
system:

carcharias linux # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
ipw3945   102304  1

This is used by the user-space ipw3945d daemon.  If I kill that, I
can remove the module...

af_packet  20040  2
arc42048  1
ipt_addrtype1856  1
ipt_LOG 5952  1
xt_pkttype  1920  3
xt_tcpudp   3072  4

.. and I have some packet filters setup...

nvidia   4546580  12

...no idea why nvidia requires 12 references for one desktop...

b4424140  0

...my wired network card.

To answer the OP, you are allowed to remove the network module of a
configured network interface.  This has the effect of hot-removing the
card, the interface just disappears.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout

2006-08-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Fish wrote:
 I have never used it, so I can't say how well the reverse-engineered
 driver works.

Pretty well on anything but the newest games, on which it tends to work OK.

 ATI has demonstrated very little interest in providing decent linux
 support.

This hasn't been true for at least a year, since they started a real
Linux team up.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map to /dev ???

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map 
to /dev ???
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:28:38 -0700

 On 8/4/06, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [Fri Aug 04 11:38:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
  [cut]
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 20 10:50
  ata-Maxtor_6Y080L0_Y2CG9M5E - ../../hde
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Jul 20 10:50
  ata-Maxtor_6Y080L0_Y3J1HW3E - ../../hdg
 
 ARGH!  Thanks Etaoin, I forgot about the by-id mappings.
 
 Meino, take a look at the by-id rules in 60-persistent-storage.rules.
 It looks like you can use the ENV{ID_SERIAL} to match SATA drives by
 serial.
 
  The strange thing is that udev obviously knows the serial number of each
  drive (udevinfo -q all -n /dev/sda *DOES* show the device's serial
  number), but it seems that no file under /sys contains this information
 
 It uses the /lib/udev/scsi_id program to read the information directly
 from the drive.
 
 /lib/udev/scsi_id -g -s /block/sda -d /dev/sda
 
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Hi Richard,

 sorry, may be this is again a very nooby question, but...

 Where is that file (60-persistent-storage.rules) ?
 locate doesn't locate that file on my system...

 Beside that: Great hack! Sounds like a real solution!
 Thanks a lot!

 Keep booting !
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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout

2006-08-04 Thread Justin R Findlay
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 8/4/06, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know what the heck is going on here? I mean this is TOTALLY
 unacceptable. I know it is not gentoos fault, it's ATI putting out crap
 drivers... But this is SO FRUSTRATING not having reliable 3D :(
 
 Yeah, one of my main requirements for my new laptop was an Intel or
 Nvidia GPU, because I got sick and tired of ATIs shit.  NVidia is
 better, but still not perfect.  We can only hope that AMDs purchase of
 ATI will result in some better cooperation with the opensource
 community...eventually.

Ideally a fully documented card is what I want.  That is why I've been
following the open graphics project.

http://wiki.duskglow.com/tiki-index.php?page=Open-Graphics


Justin
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[gentoo-user] Portage wants to install gcc-3-4-6, but system compiler is already 4.1.1

2006-08-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

Hi,

after my last emerge -avuND world portage wants to install gcc-3.4.6:


emerge -avuND world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6-r1  USE=fortran gtk nls -bootstrap
-boundschecking -build -doc -gcj -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -multislot
-nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -test -vanilla 27,694 kB

Total size of downloads: 27,694 kB


I have switched to gcc-4.1.1, so why portage wants to install gcc-3.4.6?

Another strange thing is that emerge -p depclean wants to remove


emerge -p depclean

dev-libs/gmp
selected: 4.2.1
   protected: none
 omitted: none

 dev-libs/mpfr
selected: 2.2.0_p10
   protected: none
 omitted: none


but equery shows me:


equery d dev-libs/mpfr
[ Searching for packages depending on dev-libs/mpfr... ]
sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1

equery d dev-libs/gmp
[ Searching for packages depending on dev-libs/gmp... ]
dev-libs/mpfr-2.2.0_p10
sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1
dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r5


Does anybody know what this means?

Thank you in advance,

Daniel

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[gentoo-user] Re: Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread James
Meino Christian Cramer Meino.Cramer at gmx.de writes:

  Sure, I was temporarily 86'd from the list for being
  a 'bone-head' about iptables.

This was meant to reference inappropriate 'attitudes'
I unwisely shared openly. It was not 
meant to characterize those persons with questions
and/or language barrier issues.

  On another note, frequent  creation and updates to 
  wikis allows for quick responses to these sort
  of recurring questions.  If the talented
  folks create such wiki pages, the bone-heads could 
  easily learn to refer questions to the wikis in
  lieu of all of this repetition and misguided
  responses Furthermore, ordinary gentoo-linux
  readers could volunteer to maintain these wikis,
  thus reducing the burden on the pool-o-genius.
  Perhaps a tool like eix/esearch that first
  (priortizes) searches for official/unofficial wiki-responsed 
  to these common questions?

 There are three common problems left for those like me asking
 repetitioned questions:

 1.) Most search engines of wikis are as bone-headed as those trying 
 to answer the question like the above example. Search engines dont 
 understand any context.

this is not a search engine proposal. I use the word 'search' in
its generic meaning, not specifically relating to 'search-engines'.

 2.) For one not being a native English speaker it is often difficult
 to get the right words for the right match.

English (US) is my native language. Struggles with english accompany
most of us, our entire life. Get use to struggles with english.

 3.) Sometimes one can describe the problem without the faintest idea
 of any keyword to be filled into such [CENSORED] search engines.

And that is solved and refined during the ordinary discussions
on gentoo-user.

 Without the evolution of search engine into finding enginges mailing
 lists will exist, where questions are answered more than once.

Maybe I did not articulate the idea clearly. It would not use
traditional search engines, such as google, Jeeves...

It would be a gentoo tool that runs on your machine like 'eix'

call it 'eix-help keyword '

where a typical  keyword might be drive/harddrive/ATA/scsi/ide

so a listed of all of the official and testing
wikis that related to these keywords would be listed. The index 
could be a brief description of the wiki.

Here's a simple script written by Ciaran that allos searching
to get the meanings on the flags. It was posted to this gentoo-user
group some time ago. I put in rooot's .bashrc:

# USE flag settings hack by Ciaran McCreesh:
explainuseflag(){ sed -ne s,^\([^ ]*:\)\?$1 - ,,p $(portageq portdir)/prof
iles/use.{,local.}desc; }
alias ef=explainuseflag
#

So when I want to know what a flag does all I type is

ef flag

For example

'ef x264' reveals multiple listings:
Enables h264 encoding using x264 (FFmpeg code)
Enables h264 encoding using x264
Enable x264 codec for mp4live (using x264-svn)
Enables h264 encoding using x264

hmmm, more than one explaination for a flag?



Simple, quite useful and scriptable.


There are lots of folks that answer similar questions over and over
again. Sometimes the answer is long, content-rich, and very
informative, even to those with experience. These 'perls' quickly get 
lost if not harvested quickly.
The linux.gentoo.user search engine I use at gmane.org,
is less than robust, but, at least it is limited to this gentoo-user
list of postings.

Restated simply, I'm suggesting:

1. A simple wiki template be created/cited as a reference for
quick documentation creation.

2. Individuals with some measure of experience/ability populate
the template with subject matter specific information, 
primarily gleaned from this
gentoo-user forum, supplemented with other knowledge.

3. A few keywords be included at the beginning of the wiki.

4. A simple tool/scipt could index these wikis according
to the number of keyword matches; and/or the priorty match
of keywords (that is the most relevant keywords would be
placed a the beginning of the keyword list for a given
specific wiki). The more keyword matches the higher order 
a given wiki would appear in the indexed search result.
(This is not the result of a 'search-engine' search, rather
a result from using a script on your gentoo system' A file
listing somewhat like /var/lib/portage/world could
be employed.

5. Allow ordinary gentoo-users to maintain the wikis, that
is those with reasonable skills and a login/passwd to 
bugs.gentoo.org as an example of a simple control mechanism.

6. Monthly, have a 'higher level' review of the wikis by those
with strong skills to ensure the wikis are current, relevant
and useful. Just look at all those wikis related to
ati/nvidia/xorg and tell me they are all current? Some do
depend on the version of xorg you are running, but they
do not alway clearly state this. Person with extreme knowledge
get too busy to maintain their initial wiki creations, but,
folks that use them are more likely to 

Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-04 Thread dg
On Friday 04 August 2006 01:35, Michael Crute wrote:
 On 8/3/06, dg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 03 August 2006 23:52, Michael Crute wrote:
   I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I
   anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for
   gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and
   would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is
   it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the
   disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine
   right now.
  
   The partition structure looks like this:
   hda1 - NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3)
   hda2 - Swap
   hda3 - Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed)
  
   -Mike
 
  In addition to what others already suggested, it also would make sense to
  actually change the partition type in the partition table:
  fdisk /dev/hda
  then press t and type partition number (1 in your case), then 83 (Linux
  Native) when asked for partition type.

 Right, this is exactly what I want to do but can I do it without
 seriously screwing up the disk? i.e. can I change the partition type
 without screwing up the existing partitions?

 -Mike

 --
 
 Michael E. Crute
 http://mike.crute.org

 I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended
 up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams

Yes, you can change the partition type of /dev/hda1, it will not affect other 
partitions on /dev/hda. Just set it to Linux Native using fdisk and then mkfs 
it to ext3.

BR,
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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This hasn't been true for at least a year, since they started a real
Linux team up.


I will grant that their releases over the last several months seem to
be getting better.  Indeed they are at least releasing on a montly
basis, while nVidia seems to have trouble producing releases on a
4-month cycle!  But it will take at least another year of that (plus
solid power management and composite support!) before I consider
buying an ATI card or laptop again.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to install gcc-3-4-6, but system compiler is already 4.1.1

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

after my last emerge -avuND world portage wants to install gcc-3.4.6:


Add --tree to see what is pulling in gcc-3.4.6.


but equery shows me:

 equery d dev-libs/mpfr


Equery depends is broken.  It shows 'possible' dependancies, ignoring
whatever your current use flags are.  FEX pycrypto only depends on gmp
if you have the gmp useflag set, see emerge -pv pycrypto.

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[gentoo-user] How to cleanly shutdown Gentoo?

2006-08-04 Thread Alex Fortwinder
poweroff is a good option? Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type [OT]

2006-08-04 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:36:00 +0200
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hm - UNTESTED: What happens, if you've got a JFS on a NTFS partition
 and then boot Windows?

It's probably being reported as non-formatted media. Windows will offer
to format it, then. Click OK, and your shiny JFS is gone :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to cleanly shutdown Gentoo?

2006-08-04 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to install gcc-3-4-6, but system compiler is already 4.1.1 [Solved]

2006-08-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

sorry for the noise.

i must have removed the the gcc-4.1.1 entry in package.keywords by mistake.

gcc-4.1.1  has
=dev-libs/gmp-4.2.1
=dev-libs/mpfr-2.2.0_p10
as dependencies but not the stable gcc-3.4.6 which portage wants to 
install because of the missing keyword.

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map to /dev ???

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where is that file (60-persistent-storage.rules) ?
 locate doesn't locate that file on my system...


carcharias linux # equery belongs /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
[ Searching for file(s) /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules in *... ]
sys-fs/udev-096-r1 (/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules)

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to cleanly shutdown Gentoo?

2006-08-04 Thread Alexander Skwar

Alex Fortwinder schrieb:

poweroff is a good option? Thanks


Never. halt the system.

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[gentoo-user] Special characters in the console

2006-08-04 Thread Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos
Hello. I'm having trouble with special characters like cedilla (ç) and others like ã and õ. I have a Gentoo server here that runs a custom enterprise software based in ncurses and slang. I'm from Brazil and these characters are common in this country.
How can I enable these characters without using unicode? Yes... because of some misterious reason I can't use unicode.


Re: [gentoo-user] CD trouble - can't read linux discs.

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/4/06, Ed Jabbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(Sent to gentoo-laptop by mistake.  Sorry if you get this twice.)

Both Desktop and laptop run gentoo.  Desk will boot or mount a knoppix or
other live cd.  Lap, however, will do neither - mount returns bad
superblock.  The lap, strangely enough, will mount and read a Scrabble disc


Have you tried a different brand/type of recordable media?  Generally
I've found CD-R to be more readable than CD-RW.  And of course, if
you are using DVD+/-R[W] media, then your laptop would need the
ability to read that media...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Special characters in the console

2006-08-04 Thread dg
On Saturday 05 August 2006 01:21, Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos wrote:
 Hello. I'm having trouble with special characters like cedilla (ç) and
 others like ã and õ. I have a Gentoo server here that runs a custom
 enterprise software based in ncurses and slang. I'm from Brazil and these
 characters are common in this country.

 How can I enable these characters without using unicode? Yes... because of
 some misterious reason I can't use unicode.

Paulo,
You need to set your locale. Just set these in your .bashrc (or 
to /etc/env.d/02locale for system-wide settings):
export LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.ISO8859-1
export MM_CHARSET=pt_BR
Then, if you are working from console, you also need to set appropriate font 
and screenmap. Take a look at Gentoo Linux Localization Guide 
(http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml?style=printable) for 
details.

BR,
dmitri

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout

2006-08-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Justin R Findlay wrote:
 Ideally a fully documented card is what I want.  That is why I've been
 following the open graphics project.

Your best bet right now is to buy something with Intel integrated
graphics. Intel's hired X developers to work on a fully open-source
driver, and it also contracts Tungsten Graphics for the 3D driver. If
you want to support open-source graphics, buy Intel, then send
ATI/Nvidia letters to tell them why they lost your business. Regretfully
there's not much that can be done for those of us who prefer AMD
processors..

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Labeling reiserfs partitions

2006-08-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:17:47 + (UTC), James wrote:

 hmmm, more than one explaination for a flag?

If it's a local USE flag, because it's use is specific to each
application defining it, although they are usually very similar.
Global USE flags have a single definition.


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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC Upgrade Problems - Why does emerge --sync not work

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Watson
Starting retry 3 of 3 with rsync://140.211.166.165/gentoo-portage
 Checking server timestamp ...
   
 rsync: failed to connect to 140.211.166.165: Connection refused (111)
 rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(107)
 [receiver=2.6.8]
 

 The server is refusing the connection, there's nothing wrong at your end
 except you need to try a different rsync server.


   
Thanks ... I figured this bit out last night ... Sorry. I'm still
puzzled why my lap top keeps freezing. Usually when the screen saver
cuts in. The last things I've done are upgrade GCC and follow the power
managment guide for my laptop. Are there any obvious mistakes that would
cause this? Thank, Richard

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[gentoo-user] Dual screen display, one is offset

2006-08-04 Thread Daniel D Jones
I have two Dell LCD widescreen displays (one's a 2005WFP, the other is a newly 
purchased 2007WFP) that I've just configured for dual screen display.  I'm 
running an ATI videocard and using the fglrx driver.  The monitor on the 
right is using the DVI interface, while the screen on the left is using the 
SVGA interface.  I've gotten everything working except for the fact that the 
left screen is shifted to the right.  That is, there's a large black stripe 
down the left side of the display which I cannot move the mouse into, and 
there's an equal sized chunk missing off the right side (which is the middle 
of the wide screen display).  It's like the left half of the display is 
shifted about 20% to the right.  This was my primary display until I got the 
second monitor today, and it did not display the offset problem when it was 
configured for a single display.  Here's my xorg.conf file:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default Layout
Screen  0  aticonfig Screen 0 0 0
InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard
InputDeviceConfigured Mouse
EndSection

Section Files
FontPath unix/:7100
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/afms
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/artwiz
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/dejavu
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/fonts.cache-1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/freefont
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/sharefonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/terminus
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ukr
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util
FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID
EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  bitmap
Load  dbe
Load  ddc
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  freetype
Load  glx
Load  int10
Load  record
Load  speedo
Load  type1
Load  v4l
Load  vbe
Load  xtt
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbModel pc104
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Emulate3Buttons true
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   aticonfig Monitor 0
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   aticonfig Monitor 1
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9000 Pro (RV250 If)
Driver  ati
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Graphics Adapter 0
Driver  fglrx
Option  (null)
Option  DesktopSetup 0x0201
Option  UseInternalAGPGART on
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Graphics Adapter 1
Driver  fglrx
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
Screen  1
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier aticonfig Screen 0
Device ATI Graphics Adapter 0
Monitoraticonfig Monitor 0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport  0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier aticonfig Screen 1
Device ATI Graphics Adapter 1
Monitoraticonfig Monitor 1
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport  0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection

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Re: [gentoo-user] testing SATA drives

2006-08-04 Thread Daniel Huckstep

Rasmus Andersen wrote:

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 09:36:16AM -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
  

if it is a physical or electrical problem with the disks.  The disks are
SATA drives 2x 250gb -- I am not sure how to proceed and I googling has
not been helpful -- it may be there, I just haven't found it.



Use a livecd/knoppix thing and run badblocks(8) on them.

Cheers,
  Rasmus
  
I vote for the Ultimate Boot CD. small download (i think) and it has 
pretty much every hard drive tool on it, so you can rum the appropriate 
manufacturer's tools and figure out if they are dead, and also low level 
format the drives for a complete fresh start.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Dual screen display, one is offset

2006-08-04 Thread Daniel Huckstep

Daniel D Jones wrote:
I have two Dell LCD widescreen displays (one's a 2005WFP, the other is a newly 
purchased 2007WFP) that I've just configured for dual screen display.  I'm 
running an ATI videocard and using the fglrx driver.  The monitor on the 
right is using the DVI interface, while the screen on the left is using the 
SVGA interface.  I've gotten everything working except for the fact that the 
left screen is shifted to the right.  That is, there's a large black stripe 
down the left side of the display which I cannot move the mouse into, and 
there's an equal sized chunk missing off the right side (which is the middle 
of the wide screen display).  It's like the left half of the display is 
shifted about 20% to the right.  This was my primary display until I got the 
second monitor today, and it did not display the offset problem when it was 
configured for a single display.  Here's my xorg.conf file:


Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default Layout
Screen  0  aticonfig Screen 0 0 0
InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard
InputDeviceConfigured Mouse
EndSection

Section Files
FontPath unix/:7100
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/afms
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/artwiz
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/dejavu
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/fonts.cache-1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/freefont
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/sharefonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/terminus
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ukr
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util
FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID
EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  bitmap
Load  dbe
Load  ddc
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  freetype
Load  glx
Load  int10
Load  record
Load  speedo
Load  type1
Load  v4l
Load  vbe
Load  xtt
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbModel pc104
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Emulate3Buttons true
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   aticonfig Monitor 0
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   aticonfig Monitor 1
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9000 Pro (RV250 If)
Driver  ati
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Graphics Adapter 0
Driver  fglrx
Option  (null)
Option  DesktopSetup 0x0201
Option  UseInternalAGPGART on
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Graphics Adapter 1
Driver  fglrx
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
Screen  1
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier aticonfig Screen 0
Device ATI Graphics Adapter 0
Monitoraticonfig Monitor 0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport  0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier aticonfig Screen 1
Device ATI Graphics Adapter 1
Monitoraticonfig Monitor 1
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport  0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection

  
I have a 2005FPW on DVI connector as my left/main monitor and an iiyama 
17 4:3 on VGA connector on the right/secondary monitor. i have a 6800 
Ultra using the nvidia drivers. My display is setup nicely. here is my 
xorg.conf i am using. you might want to specify a bit more for your 
monitor, like the refresh, modeline, etc like I did...give it a shot


Section ServerLayout
   Identifier Dual
   Screen0  Screen0
   Screen1  Screen1 RightOf Screen0
   InputDeviceMX518 CorePointer
   InputDevice

Re: [gentoo-user] CD trouble - can't read linux discs.

2006-08-04 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Fri August 4 2006 18:29, dg wrote:
 On Saturday 05 August 2006 01:20, Ed Jabbour wrote:
  Both Desktop and laptop run gentoo.  Desk will boot or mount a knoppix
  or other live cd.  Lap, however, will do neither - mount returns bad
  superblock.  The lap, strangely enough, will mount and read a Scrabble
  disc for Windoze.  Same with file -s; reads Scrabble fine, but barfs on
  the knoppix.  Any hints or pointers on where on the lap's gentoo system
  to look for the difference in behaviour greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

 Can you read (without mounting) knoppix cd on the laptop with something
 like dd if=your_cd_device of=/dev/null ?

No.  But it's getting weird.  I tried mounting a straight data disc - the 
gentoo package one - and it mounted fine.  So, I thought maybe the problem 
was just with bootable discs.  Trying file -s, the system froze.  I 
rebooted.  Now, I have no /dev/hdc at all and lost /dev/dsp, too.  So, 
something's wrong with udev.  It seems my entire system is crumbling.  I'd 
commit the heresy of reinstalling if I could boot off a CD.
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map to /dev ???

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map 
to /dev ???
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:59:11 -0700

 On 8/4/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Where is that file (60-persistent-storage.rules) ?
   locate doesn't locate that file on my system...
 
 carcharias linux # equery belongs 
 /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
 [ Searching for file(s) /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules in *... 
 ]
 sys-fs/udev-096-r1 (/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules)
 
 HTH,
 -Richard
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solfire:/etc/udevsudo equery belongs 
/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
[ Searching for file(s) /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules in *... ]
solfire:/etc/udev

(not found)...is my installation damaged ???

Keep booting!
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map to /dev ???

2006-08-04 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two removeable SATA-hds...how to map 
to /dev ???
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:59:11 -0700

 On 8/4/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Where is that file (60-persistent-storage.rules) ?
   locate doesn't locate that file on my system...
 
 carcharias linux # equery belongs 
 /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
 [ Searching for file(s) /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules in *... 
 ]
 sys-fs/udev-096-r1 (/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules)
 
 HTH,
 -Richard
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okI found the file in /usr/porstgae/dostfiles/udev-087.tar.bz2

Keep booting the right drive!
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