Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
As far as I can see there is no chance neither to get my Radeon to
cooperate with open source driver nor to turn on AIGLX with my fglrx, at
least at the moment of writing. It's a pity, but allow me then to return
to the secondary topic of this thread.

Is it possible to enable some kind of a chooser which would allow me to
choose whether I'd like to launch Xgl or Xorg? While working on my
/usr/share/gdm/default.conf I've spotted a server called 'chooser'.
Could you tell me what is this server doing and could it be a solution
for my problem?

Of course the choice doesn't have to be done in GDM. It could be a tiny
bash script or a simple C++ application run in the default runlevel
which would ask me for pressing a specific key to run Xorg - otherwise
it will run Xgl - for example changing the line 0=Standard in the file
I've mentioned above. Have you got ideas or do I have to write such an
app by myself?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Who does save my screen? (xorg-server-1.2.0)

2007-01-27 Thread Martins
On Thursday 25 January 2007 23:41, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
 Hi!

 After updating up to xorg-server-1.2.0 after ~10-15min somebody turns my
 monitor off as I have configured this or that screensaver. But I have not
 changed anything at all.

 Where to dig in?


 Andrew


maybe this one in xorg.conf.example at lines OPTION standby time 20

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server and ati-drivers 'bussiness'

2007-01-27 Thread Martins

 I'm having the same problems. ati-drivers insists on using X.org-7.1.0.0
 or earlier, obviously because the drivers were compiled against that
 version.

 I don't have the ati-drivers source code so I can't tell if there was an
 ABI change that the driver enforces, or if ATI simply hardcoded the
 drivers to fail. I'm betting on the latter

 In either case the solution would appear to be a hard dependency on =
 X.org-7.1.0.0 in the ebuild. Have you submitted a bug to bgo?

 alan

no, i didnt submit bug due to I dont understand what bug it is related to - 
xorg or ati-drivers or both ;)
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[gentoo-user] It is Bugday time once again!

2007-01-27 Thread Alexander Færøy
Hi All!

In one week it will be time for our monthly Bugday event!

This is a reminder for you to buy your girlfriend some flowers, pay your
parents to clean your room and make sure you have power for the computer
and the net cable is plugged in!  Join #Gentoo-Bugs on the Freenode IRC
network and help us make Gentoo the best distribution ever!

You can hang out; learn from others and try to fix as many bugs as
possible.  As usual a big team of developers will be there to assist you if you
have any questions!

Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions about the
Bugday event :)

Remember, February the third is reserved for Bugday -- No matter what!

Best regards,
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[gentoo-user] Capture AVI DV, or RAW DV

2007-01-27 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I would like to capture the content of some digital video tapes from a 
camcorder with a firewire connection onto my PC and burn a DVD with it.  
Editing would be nice, but not necessary at this stage and I am looking at 
kdenlive for this purpose (kino requires all of the Gnome libs, which I do 
not want to install on this machine).

Unfortunately, kdenlive does not have a capture ability.  I am thinking that 
there must be some engine-room-command available to do this without all the 
kino gui and dependencies.

What would you suggest?
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[gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Vlad Dogaru

Hello,

My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of
Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is
limited).

Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to
directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any
common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories
preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:16, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 Hello,

 My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
 to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
 time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
 don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of
 Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is
 limited).

 Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to
 directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any
 common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories
 preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab?

Do you know that you can use eclean to remove obsolete/older versions of 
source files from your /usr/portage/distfiles directory?  Alternatively, you 
can just select and rm some of these manually to save some space. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Dale
Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 Hello,

 My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
 to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
 time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
 don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of
 Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is
 limited).

 Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to
 directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any
 common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories
 preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab?

 Thanks,
 Vlad


You can change the path to distfiles in make.conf and then move it there.

You do know about eclean I assume?  It will remove some of the tarballs
that are no longer needed and give you some space back. 

Hope that helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 08:58 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
[...]

 Is it possible to enable some kind of a chooser which would allow me to
 choose whether I'd like to launch Xgl or Xorg? While working on my
 /usr/share/gdm/default.conf I've spotted a server called 'chooser'.
 Could you tell me what is this server doing and could it be a solution
 for my problem?
 

A chooser in the GDM/XDMCP sense is a program that lists available
hosts to log into (via XDMCP).

I'm not aware of any program that will allow you to choose between X
servers any more than I'm aware of a program that will allow you to pick
MTAs.  The simplest solution is to just pick one.  Why would you want to
bounce back and forth between X servers?

 Of course the choice doesn't have to be done in GDM. It could be a tiny
 bash script or a simple C++ application run in the default runlevel
 which would ask me for pressing a specific key to run Xorg - otherwise
 it will run Xgl - for example changing the line 0=Standard in the file
 I've mentioned above. Have you got ideas or do I have to write such an
 app by myself?
 
 Regards,
 Jan Stępień
 

Why should you need to write anything.  Forget GDM and if you want to
run X then type X [ENTER].  If you want Xgl then Xgl [ENTER].  But
again, why would you want to complicate your life with 2 different X
servers?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Capture AVI DV, or RAW DV

2007-01-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 10:54 +, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I would like to capture the content of some digital video tapes from a 
 camcorder with a firewire connection onto my PC and burn a DVD with it.  
 Editing would be nice, but not necessary at this stage and I am looking at 
 kdenlive for this purpose (kino requires all of the Gnome libs, which I do 
 not want to install on this machine).
 
 Unfortunately, kdenlive does not have a capture ability.  I am thinking that 
 there must be some engine-room-command available to do this without all the 
 kino gui and dependencies.
 
 What would you suggest?

The easiest way is dvgrab.  It's a command-line app that does one
thing: grab video from a digital camcorder via Firewire.  You can then
use whatever program to edit the video as you see fit.

Come with plenty of disk space.

-m

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a):
 A chooser in the GDM/XDMCP sense is a program that lists available
 hosts to log into (via XDMCP).

Thanks. It may be useful some day.

 Why should you need to write anything.  Forget GDM and if you want to
 run X then type X [ENTER].  If you want Xgl then Xgl [ENTER].  But
 again, why would you want to complicate your life with 2 different X
 servers?

I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some
OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl. If you'd like to
read any details you can take a look at first posts of this topic.

Regards,
Jan Stępień

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 15:06 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
[...]

 I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some
 OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl. If you'd like to
 read any details you can take a look at first posts of this topic.

Then you probably don't want to use GDM or any other DM as they are
primarily designed to manage displays that are already selected.  What
you want is more of a chicken-and-egg issue for a display manager.

What you likely need is something to be run from the command line (i.e.
*before* X is started).  startx (or xinit) are perfect for this.  No
need to write any fancy program, it can pretty much do what you're
asking:

$ startx /path/to/program/that/needs/X.org -- /usr/bin/X
$ startx -- /usr/bin/Xgl

or whatever. There's probably a dozen other ways to do it.  See the
startx man page for details.

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[gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
Hi everyone,

Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok
and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome
environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display
Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of
them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts
but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled.
I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.

Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that
I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and
managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated.

Best regards,
Jan Stępień

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a):
 $ startx /path/to/program/that/needs/X.org -- /usr/bin/X
 $ startx -- /usr/bin/Xgl
 
 or whatever. There's probably a dozen other ways to do it.  See the
 startx man page for details.

Thanks, I'll take a look at the manual and give it a shot.

Regards,
Jan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 15:48 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok
 and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome
 environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display
 Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of
 them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts
 but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled.
 I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.
 
 Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that
 I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and
 managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated.

Disclaimer: I don't (often) use KDE...

But there is a Settings://Accessibility/Regional  Languages option (or
similiar).  Have you using that and setting it to Polish?

... also might want to check your $LANG and $LC_ALL environment
variables...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 27 January 2007 15:48:20 Jan Stępień wrote:
 Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok
 and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome
 environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display
 Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of
 them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts
 but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled.
 I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.

 Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that
 I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and
 managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3

Soo.. if you still have problems the output of:

# locale -a

# locale

?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Capture AVI DV, or RAW DV

2007-01-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:49, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 10:54 +, Mick wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I would like to capture the content of some digital video tapes from a
  camcorder with a firewire connection onto my PC and burn a DVD with it.
  Editing would be nice, but not necessary at this stage and I am looking
  at kdenlive for this purpose (kino requires all of the Gnome libs, which
  I do not want to install on this machine).
 
  Unfortunately, kdenlive does not have a capture ability.  I am thinking
  that there must be some engine-room-command available to do this without
  all the kino gui and dependencies.
 
  What would you suggest?

 The easiest way is dvgrab.  It's a command-line app that does one
 thing: grab video from a digital camcorder via Firewire.  You can then
 use whatever program to edit the video as you see fit.

 Come with plenty of disk space.

He, he!  :)  I know what you mean.  Thanks for the suggestion.  dvgrab seems 
to do exactly what I want - well, if only the autosplit functioned as 
advertised - and it can also save the data in an avi wrapper.

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[gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore

2007-01-27 Thread Dan Johansson
Hi,

After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices 
automatically anymore.
Any suggestions where to start my search?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over
the network.  I still don't see how I can move the data back to the
laptop after reformatting it.  Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter
the only way?

- Grant

On 1/26/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I really appreciate all the advice.  I have about 11 of 12 GBs copied
from the laptop to the desktop system now via the tar|ssh method so I
guess I'll let that complete.  Once it's done, how can I move the data
back over the network to the reformatted laptop?

- Grant

On 1/26/07, Matthias Bethke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Grant,
 on Friday, 2007-01-26 at 09:47:51, you wrote:
  My laptop is currently still copying everything to my desktop system
  via tar and ssh.

 That's good. dd would be easier on the HD in case it's breaking but if you
 have a filesystem
 error you'd still have to fix that after copying back. If the HD is not
 about to die, tar (or rsync as Neil mentioned) is much better.

  When I ran rc this morning, I saw that ssh started so it must have
  stopped some time overnight as it usually does.  The laptop was still
  running the tar | ssh command I had started the night before.  Could
  the desktop be missing some of the laptop's data since the desktop
  wasn't running ssh all night, or would it catch up now that ssh is
  running?

 If the connection didn't break on the laptop side (ssh|tar reporting a
 broken pipe), you should be fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Vlad Dogaru

On 1/27/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 Hello,

 My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it
 to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the
 time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I
 don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of
 Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is
 limited).

 Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to
 directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any
 common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories
 preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab?

 Thanks,
 Vlad


You can change the path to distfiles in make.conf and then move it there.

You do know about eclean I assume?  It will remove some of the tarballs
that are no longer needed and give you some space back.


Hi everyone,

I had no idea about these settings in make.conf or about eclean. I
apologise for not having read the proverbial manual thoroughly enough.
One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
default to /tmp?

Cheers,
Vlad

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox VERY slow on launch

2007-01-27 Thread Gabriel Rossetti



Nelson, David (ED, PARD) wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Gabriel Rossetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 January 2007 22:24
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox VERY slow on launch




  
yes, I have that, but I had that before in my previous 
installation.  FF

seems slower
(at launch) at school where they have a proxy server. If my memory is
correct,
it seems to do that when I go from my home network to my 
school's network

and vice versa.




Have you tried re-emerging firefox? Or possibly do a revdep-rebuild to check 
for missing libraries?

Alternatively see if the binary package gives you the same issues?

David


  
Yes, but re-emerging did not help. I did install the binary client, and 
it does not have this problem.
revdep-rebuild only wants gcc rebuild, it always does for some 
reason...I'm re-emerging it as we speak.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore

2007-01-27 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:13:28 am Dan Johansson wrote:
 Hi,

 After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices
 automatically anymore.
 Any suggestions where to start my search?

HAL and DBUS are wonderful tools with KDE. They tend to be problemmatic at 
times though. Since you upgraded dbus... did you by chance reload the hal and 
dbus daemons? Howabout restarting kde? Upgrades aren't always seamless and 
you have to kick the daemons from time to time.

That said, I've dumped hal, dbus and all the related support from KDE and have 
gone over to using automount... 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-27 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Jan,
on Saturday, 2007-01-27 at 15:06:32, you wrote:
 I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some
 OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl.

I reckon most in America's army would love to have your problems.

SCNR! =^
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

 I really appreciate all the advice.  I have about 11 of 12 GBs copied
 from the laptop to the desktop system now via the tar|ssh method so I
 guess I'll let that complete.  Once it's done, how can I move the data
 back over the network to the reformatted laptop?

Well, tar|ssh simply done the other way round should do the trick. But
Kashani has a point---if your connection is unstable, rsync has a big
advantage over tar, so better just try his commandline.


The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the
laptop when it won't even have an OS on it.  I could boot a LiveCD but
I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network.  The
laptop's card is a madwifi/ath0.  When booted into the LiveCD, lspci
does recognize the card but there is no net.ath0 interface.  I don't
have any ethernet connectivity to the Gentoo router since I don't have
a crossover cable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Jürgen Geuter
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote:

Hossa.

 I had no idea about these settings in make.conf or about eclean. I
 apologise for not having read the proverbial manual thoroughly enough.
 One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
 default to /tmp?

Sometimes an ebuild needs to run scripts from the package's tarball for
installation or something like that. Many people have an extra partition
for /tmp that is mounted noexec to give people less opportunity to mess
around with the system (for example build weird binaries for local root
exploits).

Apart from that it's often useful to have all ebuild-related stuff in
one place (/tmp/ is often messy as hell so having a special tmp for
building sounds like a good idea, especially if things go wrong and you
need to check why).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 January 2007 16:38, Grant wrote:
 All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over
 the network.  I still don't see how I can move the data back to the
 laptop after reformatting it.  Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter
 the only way?

Please try not to top post in this ML.

Boot your laptop using a Linux LiveCD.  Mount your hard drive (e.g. 
mount /dev/hda /mnt/hda. Start sshd.  Go to your desktop and run something 
like:

cat archive_file.bz2 | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /mnt/hda ; 
tar -xjpvf archive_file.bz2

WARNING: I haven't tried it out, but you could adjust/adapt it and experiment 
with it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore

2007-01-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 January 2007 17:11, Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:13:28 am Dan Johansson wrote:
  Hi,
 
  After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices
  automatically anymore.
  Any suggestions where to start my search?

 HAL and DBUS are wonderful tools with KDE. They tend to be problemmatic at
 times though. Since you upgraded dbus... did you by chance reload the hal
 and dbus daemons? Howabout restarting kde? Upgrades aren't always seamless
 and you have to kick the daemons from time to time.

 That said, I've dumped hal, dbus and all the related support from KDE and
 have gone over to using automount...

I needed to run revdep-rebuild following the dbus update.  Have you done this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

 All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over
 the network.  I still don't see how I can move the data back to the
 laptop after reformatting it.  Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter
 the only way?

Please try not to top post in this ML.


Sorry about that.  In another stroke of bad luck my desktop's mouse
stopped working at the same time my hard drive started acting up so
I've been tabbing around firefox and using Gmail's Quick Reply which
(predictably) top-posts.  The mouse is working again now.


Boot your laptop using a Linux LiveCD.  Mount your hard drive (e.g.
mount /dev/hda /mnt/hda. Start sshd.  Go to your desktop and run something
like:

cat archive_file.bz2 | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /mnt/hda ;
tar -xjpvf archive_file.bz2


I guess my problem is getting the laptop back on the wireless-only
network with a madwifi card when the LiveCD doesn't have a net.ath0
interface.

I did just try chrooting into my laptop's /dev/hda3 copy on my desktop
system with:

chroot /home/grant/hda3 /bin/bash

and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch
and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Rollin
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:14, Jürgen Geuter wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote:

  One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
  default to /tmp?

 
Many people have an extra partition
 for /tmp that is mounted noexec to give people less opportunity to mess
 around with the system (for example build weird binaries for local root
 exploits).

 Apart from that it's often useful to have all ebuild-related stuff in
 one place

I would add that since /tmp is often cleaned on boot-up, /var/tmp is 
considered a less temporary place than /tmp. For example, if you hose 
your /opt/foo directory, then assuming you have an appropriate version 
of /foo in /var/tmp/portage, when you re-emerge foo it will skip steps that 
don't need to be done  again (because they have already been completed and 
left results in /var/tmp/portage).

Jeff Rollin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello,
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:51:48AM -0800, Grant wrote:
 and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch
 and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?

I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD
--emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled
things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.

Hope it works well for you

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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Vlad Dogaru

On 1/27/07, Jeffrey Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:14, Jürgen Geuter wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote:

  One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
  default to /tmp?


Many people have an extra partition
 for /tmp that is mounted noexec to give people less opportunity to mess
 around with the system (for example build weird binaries for local root
 exploits).

 Apart from that it's often useful to have all ebuild-related stuff in
 one place

I would add that since /tmp is often cleaned on boot-up, /var/tmp is
considered a less temporary place than /tmp. For example, if you hose
your /opt/foo directory, then assuming you have an appropriate version
of /foo in /var/tmp/portage, when you re-emerge foo it will skip steps that
don't need to be done  again (because they have already been completed and
left results in /var/tmp/portage).


Thanks to everyone for all your help and for the clarification.

Have a nice day,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

 and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch
 and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?

I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD
--emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled
things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.


I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got:

/usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found

What do you think?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Jan Stępień wrote:
 In my
 USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.

Why not use Unicode?  The mail you sent uses UTF-8, why not use that 
everywhere?

Benno

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Grant wrote:

 and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch
 and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?

I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD
--emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled
things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.


I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got:

/usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found

What do you think?



Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is 
just wasting your time.


I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any 
further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for 
it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop.


Good luck

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

  and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
  image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch
  and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?

 I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD
 --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled
 things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.

 I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got:

 /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found

 What do you think?


Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is
just wasting your time.

I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any
further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for
it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop.


I haven't checked the laptop drive yet.  Can I make a smartmontools
package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop?  How can I do that?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore

2007-01-27 Thread Dan Johansson
On Saturday 27 January 2007 19:31, Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 27 January 2007 17:11, Jerry McBride wrote:
  On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:13:28 am Dan Johansson wrote:
   Hi,
  
   After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB
   devices automatically anymore.
   Any suggestions where to start my search?
 
  HAL and DBUS are wonderful tools with KDE. They tend to be problemmatic
  at times though. Since you upgraded dbus... did you by chance reload the
  hal and dbus daemons? Howabout restarting kde? Upgrades aren't always
  seamless and you have to kick the daemons from time to time.
 
  That said, I've dumped hal, dbus and all the related support from KDE and
  have gone over to using automount...

 I needed to run revdep-rebuild following the dbus update.  Have you done
 this?
Yes, revdep-rebuild is done and all daemons and KDE are restarted (reboot).
I can see in dmesg that the device is being recognized:

usb-storage: device found at 38
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
  Vendor: PretecModel: 01GB  Rev: 2.00
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
SCSI device sdd: 2015231 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB)
sdd: Write Protect is off
sdd: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
sdd: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sdd: 2015231 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB)
sdd: Write Protect is off
sdd: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
sdd: assuming drive cache: write through
 sdd: sdd1
sd 20:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdd
sd 20:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0
usb-storage: device scan complete


I can manually mount sdd1 but thats not really what I want.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Grant wrote:

  and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
  image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from 
scratch

  and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?

 I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD
 --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the 
compiled

 things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.

 I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got:

 /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found

 What do you think?


Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is
just wasting your time.

I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any
further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for
it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop.


I haven't checked the laptop drive yet.  Can I make a smartmontools
package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop?  How can I do that?




Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd, 
so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a 
/dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...)


Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a home router

2007-01-27 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

Would it be ok for me to email you off list to get some help with a new
setup of Shorewall that I did?


It would be, but i am not sure if i can help you, because i have
dropped shorewall and i am no firewall expert.
I would suggest you to look at the shorewall guides at the shorewall
homepage, they explain some custom settings very well! Then if you
have problems post it on the shorewall mailing list. The shorewall
maintainer himself is very active and does a good job on this list.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

   and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
   image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from
 scratch
   and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?
 
  I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD
  --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the
 compiled
  things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.
 
  I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got:
 
  /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found
 
  What do you think?
 

 Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is
 just wasting your time.

 I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any
 further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for
 it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop.

 I haven't checked the laptop drive yet.  Can I make a smartmontools
 package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop?  How can I do that?



Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd,
so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a
/dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...)


That command takes less than a second to complete and there is a lot
of output.  One thing that jumps out at me is:

ATA Error Count: 868

Is there anything else I should post?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Grant wrote:
   and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the 
/dev/hda3

   image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from
 scratch
   and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's 
re-installed?

 
  I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge 
-vaD

  --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the
 compiled
  things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.
 
  I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got:
 
  /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found
 
  What do you think?
 

 Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then 
re-installing is

 just wasting your time.

 I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before 
going any

 further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for
 it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the 
laptop.


 I haven't checked the laptop drive yet.  Can I make a smartmontools
 package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop?  How can I do that?



Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd,
so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a
/dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...)


That command takes less than a second to complete and there is a lot
of output.  One thing that jumps out at me is:

ATA Error Count: 868

Is there anything else I should post?



Hmmm - sounds like its seen 868 read/write errors. However to advise you 
better we need to see the output. I suspect it is huge because there are 
error details for each of the 868 errors. How about post the first 200 
lines of the smartctl output to the list?


Cheers

Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:38:23 -0800, Grant wrote:

 All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over
 the network.  I still don't see how I can move the data back to the
 laptop after reformatting it.

The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from
a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:09:22 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from
 a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack.

And as your laptop's drive may not be trustworthy, I'd run rsync a second
time, immediately after the first. If it tries to copy any files again,
something is most likely amiss with the drive.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore

2007-01-27 Thread Marc Redmann
 After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices
 automatically anymore.
 Any suggestions where to start my search?

I remember that I had to recompile kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves after hal and 
dbus upgrade to make the automount feature in kde work again ... maybe you 
can try that ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:05:18 +, Jeffrey Rollin wrote:

 I would add that since /tmp is often cleaned on boot-up, /var/tmp is 
 considered a less temporary place than /tmp. For example, if you hose 
 your /opt/foo directory, then assuming you have an appropriate version 
 of /foo in /var/tmp/portage, when you re-emerge foo it will skip
 steps that don't need to be done  again (because they have already been
 completed and left results in /var/tmp/portage).

Only if you emerge with FEATURES=keepwork, otherwise emerge clears out
the temporary files after completing an emerge and before starting a
new one.

another reason for using /var/tmp is that /tmp is often too small,
especially if using tmpfs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

Hmmm - sounds like its seen 868 read/write errors. However to advise you
better we need to see the output. I suspect it is huge because there are
error details for each of the 868 errors. How about post the first 200
lines of the smartctl output to the list?


Here are the first 91 lines.  After that it looks like error
specifics.  Please let me know what you think or if you need more
info.

smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Fujitsu MHT2xxxAT/MHU2100AT series
Device Model: FUJITSU MHT2040AT
Serial Number:NN50T481446T
Firmware Version: 0022
User Capacity:40,007,761,920 bytes
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   6
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a
Local Time is:Sat Jan 27 15:47:38 2007 UTC
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
   was never started.
   Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:  (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
   without error or no self-test has ever
   been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 293) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:(0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
   Auto Offline data collection
on/off support.
   Suspend Offline collection upon new
   command.
   Offline surface scan supported.
   Self-test supported.
   Conveyance Self-test supported.
   Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
   power-saving mode.
   Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported.
   No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:(   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:(  40) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:(   2) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   100   093   046Pre-fail
Always   -   169149
 2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   030Pre-fail
Offline  -   15663104
 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003   100   100   025Pre-fail
Always   -   0
 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   099   099   000Old_age
Always   -   1012
 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   024Pre-fail
Always   -   8559870279687
 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   100   100   047Pre-fail
Always   -   3006
 8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   019Pre-fail
Offline  -   0
 9 Power_On_Seconds0x0032   075   075   000Old_age
Always   -   12656h+03m+48s
10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013   100   100   020Pre-fail
Always   -   0
12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   926
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   103
193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032   066   066   000Old_age
Always   -   340716
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   100   070   000Old_age
Always   -   43 (Lifetime Min/Max 13/66)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   4244
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   124838871047
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   091   091   000Old_age
Always   -   10
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   092   092   000Old_age
Offline  -   16
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e   200   196   000Old_age
Always   -   143
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x000f   100   100   060Pre-fail
Always   -   28028
203 Run_Out_Cancel  0x0002   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   433780032038
SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 868 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
   CR = Command Register [HEX]
   FR = Features Register [HEX]

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

 All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over
 the network.  I still don't see how I can move the data back to the
 laptop after reformatting it.

The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from
a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack.


The problem with booting into the LiveCD is I can't get on the
network.  I don't have a crossover cable to connect to the Gentoo
router (although I'm ordering a switch), and I don't think the LiveCD
supports madwifi since it doesn't have a net.ath0 interface.  I had
just booted normally and copied /dev/hda3 over before.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Grant

and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the
 /dev/hda3
image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from
  scratch
and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's
 re-installed?
  
   I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge
 -vaD
   --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the
  compiled
   things and you could start using the things which survived sooner.
  
   I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got:
  
   /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found
  
   What do you think?
  
 
  Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then
 re-installing is
  just wasting your time.
 
  I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before
 going any
  further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for
  it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the
 laptop.
 
  I haven't checked the laptop drive yet.  Can I make a smartmontools
  package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop?  How can I do that?
 
 

 Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd,
 so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a
 /dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...)

 That command takes less than a second to complete and there is a lot
 of output.  One thing that jumps out at me is:

 ATA Error Count: 868

 Is there anything else I should post?


Hmmm - sounds like its seen 868 read/write errors. However to advise you
better we need to see the output. I suspect it is huge because there are
error details for each of the 868 errors. How about post the first 200
lines of the smartctl output to the list?


I did a fresh format and install with the GTK installer from a LiveCD
and on the second boot errors are detected in the file system.  I
guess it's over for this drive?

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Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 persist in trying to come up even though not in any run level.

2007-01-27 Thread James Lockie

Richard Watson wrote:

Hi, I recently upgraded my system with emerge -uDN world. Afterwards I found that net.eth0 was 
grabbing my firewire port (ieee1394) and I needed to create net.eth2 for my NIC as net.eth1 was 
being assigned to my wireless. My problem is that although rc-update show indicates all 
my interfaces are NOT being loaded other than net.lo at boot (which is what I want) my system keeps 
trying to start net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 in the  default run level. Can anybody help? 
It's very frustrating waiting for these interfaces to try and connect before timing out.

I've always run my network connection on this basis as Gentoo is on my laptop 
and depending where I am will determine which interface I want to use.

Thanks, Richard

  

rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0  rm /etc/init.d/net.ath1

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB external hard drive erratic behaviour

2007-01-27 Thread James Lockie

b.n. wrote:

Hi,
I have an external USB hard drive that is giving me troubles about 
half of the time. Symptoms are the following:
- Writing a large file very often stalls for a few seconds and is 
overall slow (sometimes VERY slow, that is half an hour/gb)
- Trying to start a vmware image on the external drive automatically 
*unmounts* the drive without notice. /var/log/messages in this case 
shows me the following errors:

kernel: usb 1-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110
Some other time the image starts but the guest OS finds lots of 
troubles and I/O errors on the virtual disk.

- Read/write operations result in thousands of the following lines:

Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: *** thread sleeping.
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: queuecommand called
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: *** thread awakened.
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Command READ_10 (10 bytes)
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage:  28 00 06 b0 cc ef 00 00 40 00
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk Command S 0x43425355 T 
0x240d L 32768 F 128 Trg 0 LUN 0 CL 10
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_buf: xfer 
31 bytes

Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 31/31
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: -- transfer complete
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk command transfer result=0
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_sglist: 
xfer 32768 bytes, 3 entries
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 
32768/32768

Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: -- transfer complete
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk data transfer result 0x0
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW...
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_buf: xfer 
13 bytes

Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 13/13
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: -- transfer complete
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk status result = 0
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk Status S 0x53425355 T 0x240d 
R 0 Stat 0x0

Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: scsi cmd done, result=0x0
Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: *** thread sleeping.

The drive seems to work good on Ubuntu and Windows XP, and has also 
*sometimes* worked well here.


Any hint?

Thanks,

m.

Sounds like it is not caching all writes.
Search for USB Linux cache 'slow write'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I did just try chrooting into my laptop's /dev/hda3 copy on my desktop
system with:

chroot /home/grant/hda3 /bin/bash

and the vi command always seg faults.  Does that mean the /dev/hda3
image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch
and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed?



You may have neglected to setup /dev /proc and /sys for the chroot environment.

The gentoo install handbook will *should* show you how to get these going.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't checked the laptop drive yet.  Can I make a smartmontools
package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop?  How can I do that?

- Grant
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... that could also possibly explain why vim is dying, if you've
compiled amd64 in 64 bit mode some of your 32bit apps might complain.
;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric

I did a fresh format and install with the GTK installer from a LiveCD
and on the second boot errors are detected in the file system.  I
guess it's over for this drive?



If its within its warranty, send it back and ask for a replacement.
Make sure try get a technical explanation of what exactly is wrong
with it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Grant wrote:


=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED


Well - although says its passed - if you run any of the self-tests I
would expect to see a change to 'failed'. You might want to run the
'short' or 'long' tests (-t short or -t long) and see what happens
but given the state indicated below... I'd conclude 'She's dead Jim' at
this point and start looking for another disk (also check the warranty 
for your laptop).




 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   100   100   047Pre-fail
Always   -   3006



196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   124838871047
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   091   091   000Old_age
Always   -   10
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   092   092   000Old_age
Offline  -   16
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e   200   196   000Old_age
Always   -   143
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x000f   100   100   060Pre-fail
Always   -   28028



These indicate things are not well.



Error 868 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 12653 hours (527 days + 5 
hours)




Well yes - 868 actual errors ... not good.

The last disk I got replaced under warranty did not have a SMART report
as bad as this (4 offline uncorrectable and 10 read errors)


regards

Mark

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