Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Undo Command

2008-12-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht

On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 03:16:43AM -0600, Supreme wrote:

   This is the error I get when I try to use the undo command:
 'u' is not implemented . I am using version 7.2.021 of vim. I have
 this same version installed on a 64 bit version of Gentoo and I am not
 seeing this problem.

Do you have gvim installed ? If so, do you get the same issue ?
I would check the /usr/share/vim/vimrc file first.

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht




Re: [gentoo-user] Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:35:34 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 All sitting behind a netgear FVS-318
 
 None and I mean absolutely none of those other machines have any
 trouble pinging out to the internet.

Can you ping the other machines on your LAN?

Does iptables -L show anything?


-- 
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Q-Tip: When an omnipotent alien gives you advice.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Norberto Bensa

Quoting Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window
irtt Iface

192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   UG0 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0



192.168.0.20 is really your gateway?

what's iptables-save output?

ping is the thing you can't do?


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[gentoo-user] Digest failure on net-firewall/iptables?

2008-12-07 Thread James Homuth
Ran a pretend update on one of my boxes, and this was spit back:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 

Calculating world dependencies /!!! Digest verification failed:

!!! /usr/portage/net-firewall/iptables/iptables-1.4.0-r1.ebuild

!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size

!!! Got: 6287

!!! Expected: 6235
..
. done!


This only comes up on one of my boxes, both running Gentoo with exact same
portage configuration. Random guessing, but is this something that would be
fixed in the next sync? If no, then... What just broke?




Re: [gentoo-user] Digest failure on net-firewall/iptables?

2008-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 07 December 2008 15:12:13 James Homuth wrote:
 Ran a pretend update on one of my boxes, and this was spit back:
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:



 Calculating world dependencies /!!! Digest verification failed:

 !!! /usr/portage/net-firewall/iptables/iptables-1.4.0-r1.ebuild

 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size

 !!! Got: 6287

 !!! Expected: 6235
 ..
 . done!


 This only comes up on one of my boxes, both running Gentoo with exact same
 portage configuration. Random guessing, but is this something that would be
 fixed in the next sync? If no, then... What just broke?

wait a bit then emerge --sync again

Every now and then a dev forgets to re-digest something before uploading and 
you come along and download wrong stuff. There are other reasons too, all 
solved the same way

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Digest failure on net-firewall/iptables?

2008-12-07 Thread Pupino
2008/12/7 James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ran a pretend update on one of my boxes, and this was spit back:
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:



 Calculating world dependencies /!!! Digest verification failed:

 !!! /usr/portage/net-firewall/iptables/iptables-1.4.0-r1.ebuild

 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size

 !!! Got: 6287

 !!! Expected: 6235
 ..
 . done!


 This only comes up on one of my boxes, both running Gentoo with exact same
 portage configuration. Random guessing, but is this something that would be
 fixed in the next sync? If no, then... What just broke?




Hi,
if you want a quick solution you can check the ebuild to verify that
it actually does what it's supposed to do and then run
$ ebuild /usr/portage/net-firewall/iptables/iptables-1.4.0-r1.ebuild digest
after this the emerge will go ahead normally.
Or maybe something went wrong in your last sync and rerunning emerge
--sync will solve the problem.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Buying a low-cost printer for Linux

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2008-12-06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

After reading through this thread again, doing some online study
 and sending my dad out to find out what he could buy locally he found
 Sam's Club has this HP Color LaserJet for $280 which has specs that
 look pretty good to me:

 Color laser printers are great for things like maps, charts,
 diagrams, and graphs, but I've never seen one that did a decent
 job with photos.  [However, itq has been at least a year since
 I looked at printers.] So if printing photos is a requirement,
 make sure the printer in question does a good enough job for
 you.

 In my experience, any HP that does postscript will work great
 with Linux.  You may want to confirm that there's a .ppd file
 for that model so that CUPS can take advantage of all the bells
 and whistles (e.g. selecting resolution, paper source,
 controlling duplexing, etc.).

 --
 Grant

Hi Grant,
   He never does photos so that's not an issue. He seems to want color
so his printouts of email look identical to what he sees on the
screen. Other than that I think he's really be happied with black 
white, but he says he wants color.

   I'll look around to find out about the .ppd file. I don't know
what's in one. Only that when you tell CUPS that you have a printer
you can use it.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] checksumming files

2008-12-07 Thread Mick
On Friday 05 December 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 07:10 +, Mick wrote:
  Almost every time I split a large file 1G into say 200k chunks, then ftp
  it to a server and then:

 That's thousands of files!  Have you gone mad?!

Ha! small error in units . . . it is 200M (of course this is no disclaimer of 
me going/gone mad . . .)  I think the server drops the connection above 230M 
file uploads or something like that, so I tried 200M files and it seems to 
work.

   cat 1 2 3 4 5 6 7  completefile ; md5sum -c completefile
 
  if fails.  Checking the split files in turn I often find 1 or two chunks
  that fail on their own md5 checks.  Despite that the concatenated file
  often works (e.g. if it is a video file it'll play alright).

 Let me understand this. Are [1..7] the split files or the checksums of
 the split files?  

They are the the split files which I concatenate into the complete file.

 If the former then 'md5sum -c completefile' will fail 
 with no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found or similar due to
 the fact that completefile is not a list of checksums.  If the latter,
 then how are you generating [1..7]? If you are using the split(1)
 command to split the files and are not passing at least -a 3 to it
 then your file is going to be truncated do to the fact that the suffix
 length is too small to accommodate the thousands of files needed to
 split a 1GB+ file into 200k chunks. You should get an error like split:
 Output file suffixes exhausted.

 Maybe if you give the exact commands used I might understand this
 better.

 I have a feeling that this is not the most efficient method of file
 transfer.

split --verbose -b 2000 big_file

tnftp -r 45 -u 
ftp://username:passwd@server_name/htdocs/directory_path/ xaa xab xac 
xad . . .

The above would fail after xaa was uploaded and about 1/3 or less of xab.  So, 
I split up the individual file upload:

tnftp -r 45 -u 
ftp://username:passwd@server_name/htdocs/directory_path/ xaa ; sleep 
1m ; tnftp -r 45 -u 
ftp://username:passwd@server_name/htdocs/directory_path/ xab ; 
sleep ... ; etc.

Does this make sense?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot authenticate successfully with SSH

2008-12-07 Thread Mick
On Thursday 04 December 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Anyone know if RSA keys are incompatible between ssh-3.8 and sshd-4.2?

 I have this combination between 2 clients and 1 server.
 RSA keys consistently fail, DSA keys consistently succeed.
 The clients are on FreeBSD 5.4 and 5.5, server is FreeBSD 6.1

 I found one report on google of a similar case with a MacOS client
 connecting to a Gentoo server where the user reported
 upgrading to sshd-4.3 fixed it, but the key type was not mentioned and I
 cannot find any reference about it in OpenSSH's Changelogs, or it's
 bugzilla

Have you had a look at your .ssh/config on the client - you might have 
specified in there which method/keys to use and forgotten about it.  I've 
been through this loop a couple of times thinking why on earth is the login 
session behaving like this, only to discover that I had set up some parameter 
in the config file and forgotten all about it.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Digest failure on net-firewall/iptables?

2008-12-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 December 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Sunday 07 December 2008 15:12:13 James Homuth wrote:
  Ran a pretend update on one of my boxes, and this was spit back:
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 
 
  Calculating world dependencies /!!! Digest verification failed:
 
  !!! /usr/portage/net-firewall/iptables/iptables-1.4.0-r1.ebuild
 
  !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 
  !!! Got: 6287
 
  !!! Expected: 6235
  ..
  . done!
 
 
  This only comes up on one of my boxes, both running Gentoo with exact
  same portage configuration. Random guessing, but is this something that
  would be fixed in the next sync? If no, then... What just broke?

 wait a bit then emerge --sync again

 Every now and then a dev forgets to re-digest something before uploading
 and you come along and download wrong stuff. There are other reasons too,
 all solved the same way

Yep, I had the same problem last night - a re-sync this morning fixed it.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: Buying a low-cost printer for Linux

2008-12-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'll look around to find out about the .ppd file. I don't know
 what's in one. Only that when you tell CUPS that you have a printer
 you can use it.

The HP site says that the included CD has a .ppd file for use
with Mac OS.  That .ppd file should work fine with CUPS.  The
generic postscipt driver in CUPS should also work fine.

The linuxprinting.org database entry says the 1510 series
works perfectly, so I don't think you have anything to worry
about.

-- 
Grant





[gentoo-user] Digital photo enhancement?

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I'm wondering what apps I might play with to try enhancing a few
grainy digital ancestoral photos my wife ran across? I looked in the
online database but didn't find anything. eix isn't telling me
anything. Even Google isn't finding too much and none of it is Open
Source as far as I can tell so far.

   Doesn't bother me if the program is slow. It can be gui-based or
command line. Just want to play around if there's something to try out
and I only have a couple of pictures to play with.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Digital photo enhancement?

2008-12-07 Thread Peter Wood
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Hi,
Try the gimp. There are quite a few tutorials out there that explain how
to deal with grainy pictures. Just google for them.
Here is one that may help: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Reducing_CCD_Noise/
Best,
Peter

Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
I'm wondering what apps I might play with to try enhancing a few
 grainy digital ancestoral photos my wife ran across? I looked in the
 online database but didn't find anything. eix isn't telling me
 anything. Even Google isn't finding too much and none of it is Open
 Source as far as I can tell so far.
 
Doesn't bother me if the program is slow. It can be gui-based or
 command line. Just want to play around if there's something to try out
 and I only have a couple of pictures to play with.
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Digital photo enhancement?

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
Ah, OK. I have the gimp around but don't use it myself. I'll give it a try.

Thanks Peter.

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 Hi,
 Try the gimp. There are quite a few tutorials out there that explain how
 to deal with grainy pictures. Just google for them.
 Here is one that may help: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Reducing_CCD_Noise/
 Best,
 Peter

 Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
I'm wondering what apps I might play with to try enhancing a few
 grainy digital ancestoral photos my wife ran across? I looked in the
 online database but didn't find anything. eix isn't telling me
 anything. Even Google isn't finding too much and none of it is Open
 Source as far as I can tell so far.

Doesn't bother me if the program is slow. It can be gui-based or
 command line. Just want to play around if there's something to try out
 and I only have a couple of pictures to play with.

 Thanks,
 Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Undo Command

2008-12-07 Thread Supreme




Thanks for your reply,

I dont have gvim installed. I'll install it and see if I get the same
error.

Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:

  On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 03:16:43AM -0600, Supreme wrote:

  
  
  This is the error I get when I try to use the undo command:
"'u' is not implemented" . I am using version 7.2.021 of vim. I have
this same version installed on a 64 bit version of Gentoo and I am not
seeing this problem.

  
  
Do you have gvim installed ? If so, do you get the same issue ?
I would check the /usr/share/vim/vimrc file first.

  






Re: [gentoo-user] checksumming files

2008-12-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 15:39 +, Mick wrote:
 On Friday 05 December 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 07:10 +, Mick wrote:
   Almost every time I split a large file 1G into say 200k chunks, then ftp
   it to a server and then:
 
  That's thousands of files!  Have you gone mad?!
 
 Ha! small error in units . . . it is 200M (of course this is no disclaimer of 
 me going/gone mad . . .)  I think the server drops the connection above 230M 
 file uploads or something like that, so I tried 200M files and it seems to 
 work.
 
cat 1 2 3 4 5 6 7  completefile ; md5sum -c completefile
  
   if fails.  Checking the split files in turn I often find 1 or two chunks
   that fail on their own md5 checks.  Despite that the concatenated file
   often works (e.g. if it is a video file it'll play alright).
 
  Let me understand this. Are [1..7] the split files or the checksums of
  the split files?  
 
 They are the the split files which I concatenate into the complete file.

Well, unless you made another error in your OP, you are using md5sum
incorrectly.  When you use -c, md5sum expects a file that is a list of
files/checksums. For example

$ dd if=/dev/urandom of=bigfile bs=1M count=5
5+0 records in
5+0 records out
5242880 bytes (5.2 MB) copied, 2.29361 s, 2.3 MB/s
$ md5sum bigfile  checksum # create checksum file
$ split -b1M bigfile 
$ rm bigfile 
$ cat xa*  bigfile
$ # This is correct
$ md5sum -c checksum 
bigfile: OK
$ # This is wrong!
$ md5sum -c bigfile 
md5sum: bigfile: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found

[SNIP!]
  Maybe if you give the exact commands used I might understand this
  better.
 
  I have a feeling that this is not the most efficient method of file
  transfer.
 
 split --verbose -b 2000 big_file
 
 tnftp -r 45 -u 
 ftp://username:passwd@server_name/htdocs/directory_path/ xaa xab xac 
 xad . . .
 
 The above would fail after xaa was uploaded and about 1/3 or less of xab.  
 So, 
 I split up the individual file upload:
 
 tnftp -r 45 -u 
 ftp://username:passwd@server_name/htdocs/directory_path/ xaa ; sleep 
 1m ; tnftp -r 45 -u 
 ftp://username:passwd@server_name/htdocs/directory_path/ xab ; 
 sleep ... ; etc.
 
 Does this make sense?

Yes, but if you are truly using -c then it would make sense that you
could get a checksum error but the file be ok.

Here's how I would do it.  I'm not saying you should do it this way.
I'd use rsync.  Rsync does file xfer has checksumming built-in.  You say
you split because you get disconnected, right?  I'm not sure if rsync
handles re-connects, but you can write a loop so that if rsync fails you
continue where you left off:

status=30
until [ $status -eq 0 ] ;
do
rsync --append-verify big_file server_name:/htdocs/directory_path/
status=$?
done

No splitting/concatenating and no need to checksum.





Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot authenticate successfully with SSH

2008-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 07 December 2008 17:47:07 Mick wrote:
 On Thursday 04 December 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Anyone know if RSA keys are incompatible between ssh-3.8 and sshd-4.2?
 
  I have this combination between 2 clients and 1 server.
  RSA keys consistently fail, DSA keys consistently succeed.
  The clients are on FreeBSD 5.4 and 5.5, server is FreeBSD 6.1
 
  I found one report on google of a similar case with a MacOS client
  connecting to a Gentoo server where the user reported
  upgrading to sshd-4.3 fixed it, but the key type was not mentioned and I
  cannot find any reference about it in OpenSSH's Changelogs, or it's
  bugzilla

 Have you had a look at your .ssh/config on the client - you might have
 specified in there which method/keys to use and forgotten about it.  I've
 been through this loop a couple of times thinking why on earth is the login
 session behaving like this, only to discover that I had set up some
 parameter in the config file and forgotten all about it.

Thanks for replying. I had previously gone through all relevant config files, 
without success. Just now I tried to login again and this time it 
succeeded...

I reckon that during my previous tests, I must have forgotten to restart sshd 
after the last change. Now I can't recall what the last change was, so the 
slow process of trying to recreate it now begins.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Digest failure on net-firewall/iptables?

2008-12-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht

On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 02:29:52PM +0100, Pupino wrote:

 if you want a quick solution you can check the ebuild to verify that
 it actually does what it's supposed to do and then run
 $ ebuild /usr/portage/net-firewall/iptables/iptables-1.4.0-r1.ebuild digest
 after this the emerge will go ahead normally.

Yes, but the user must be aware of security issues.

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht




Re: [gentoo-user] checksumming files

2008-12-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 December 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 15:39 +, Mick wrote:

  They are the the split files which I concatenate into the complete file.

 Well, unless you made another error in your OP, you are using md5sum
 incorrectly.  When you use -c, md5sum expects a file that is a list of
 files/checksums. For example
[snip...]
 Yes, but if you are truly using -c then it would make sense that you
 could get a checksum error but the file be ok.

Sorry, yes I used the md5sum -c command correctly with the corresponding 
checksum file for the big_file.

 Here's how I would do it.  I'm not saying you should do it this way.
 I'd use rsync.  Rsync does file xfer has checksumming built-in.  You say
 you split because you get disconnected, right?  I'm not sure if rsync
 handles re-connects, but you can write a loop so that if rsync fails you
 continue where you left off:

 status=30
 until [ $status -eq 0 ] ;
 do
 rsync --append-verify big_file server_name:/htdocs/directory_path/
 status=$?
 done

 No splitting/concatenating and no need to checksum.

Wouldn't the server need to have rsyncd running to be able to do that?  Can I 
rsync to an ftp server?  Also, how would I pass username/passwd on the 
command line so that the upload can take place unattended?

Thank you for your replies.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] checksumming files

2008-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:56:07 +, Mick wrote:

  rsync --append-verify big_file server_name:/htdocs/directory_path/ 
  status=$?

 Wouldn't the server need to have rsyncd running to be able to do that?
 Can I rsync to an ftp server?  Also, how would I pass username/passwd
 on the command line so that the upload can take place unattended?

You only need rsyncd running to use rsync::reponame type connections. The
above command uses ssh to connect.


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[gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
My Gentoo desktop has had a locale problem for longer than I can
remember. I haven't been able to solve it on my own, but it didn't
seem too important. More a frustration. I switched my profile to the
2008.0 desktop a few days ago. Everything seems to be working but I'm
getting more of these locale-ish messages now so I'd like to figure
out what I've done wrong.

Here's one typical message I might see when running emerge --depclean:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = en_US,
LANG = (unset)
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

The line about falling back to the standard locale C is pretty
standard. I also see this in k3b every time I start the program. As I
do a lot of audio work I'd really like to make sure the CDs I burn on
this machine will be acceptable to folks/friends/customers. Here's
what I see in k3b:

SNIP
System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode
filenames) is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this
has been done intentionally. Most likely the locale is not set at all.
An invalid setting will result in problems when creating data
projects.
Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools
take care of this.
SNIP

   I don't have a clue what's wrong and the Gentoo pages about locale
setup seem to make some assumptions about my understanding of what
this does and how it does it that I'm not living up to so I really
don't know what to provide. I'll start with this and we'll see how it
goes. It seems that possibly I'm supposed to hand edit
/etc/env.d/02locale but in my longish history of running Gentoo (as a
user type) I don't believe I've ever had to edit that so I'm thinking
I must have messed up some other config file somewhere?

Thanks in advance,
Mark

lightning ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen
en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
lightning ~ #

lightning ~ # locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE=en_US
LC_NUMERIC=en_US
LC_TIME=en_US
LC_COLLATE=en_US
LC_MONETARY=en_US
LC_MESSAGES=en_US
LC_PAPER=en_US
LC_NAME=en_US
LC_ADDRESS=en_US
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
LC_ALL=
lightning ~ #

lightning ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
LANG=en_US
lightning ~ #



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:
 My Gentoo desktop has had a locale problem for longer than I can
 remember. I haven't been able to solve it on my own, but it didn't
 seem too important. More a frustration. I switched my profile to the
 2008.0 desktop a few days ago. Everything seems to be working but I'm
 getting more of these locale-ish messages now so I'd like to figure
 out what I've done wrong.

 Here's one typical message I might see when running emerge --depclean:

 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = (unset),
   LC_ALL = en_US,
   LANG = (unset)
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

 The line about falling back to the standard locale C is pretty
 standard. I also see this in k3b every time I start the program. As I
 do a lot of audio work I'd really like to make sure the CDs I burn on
 this machine will be acceptable to folks/friends/customers. Here's
 what I see in k3b:

 SNIP
 System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
 Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode
 filenames) is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this
 has been done intentionally. Most likely the locale is not set at all.
 An invalid setting will result in problems when creating data
 projects.
 Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
 environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools
 take care of this.
 SNIP

I don't have a clue what's wrong and the Gentoo pages about locale
 setup seem to make some assumptions about my understanding of what
 this does and how it does it that I'm not living up to so I really
 don't know what to provide. I'll start with this and we'll see how it
 goes. It seems that possibly I'm supposed to hand edit
 /etc/env.d/02locale but in my longish history of running Gentoo (as a
 user type) I don't believe I've ever had to edit that so I'm thinking
 I must have messed up some other config file somewhere?

 Thanks in advance,
 Mark

 lightning ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen
 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
 lightning ~ #

 lightning ~ # locale
 LANG=en_US
 LC_CTYPE=en_US
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US
 LC_TIME=en_US
 LC_COLLATE=en_US
 LC_MONETARY=en_US
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US
 LC_PAPER=en_US
 LC_NAME=en_US
 LC_ADDRESS=en_US
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
 LC_ALL=
 lightning ~ #

 lightning ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
 LANG=en_US
 lightning ~ #


   

Check in your /etc/make.conf file and see if you have !some! of this:

INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia
LINGUAS=en
LANG=en_US
LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
SANE_BACKENDS=hp
NUT_DRIVERS=cyberpower
ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1
CAMERAS=canon
LCD_DEVICES=
APACHE2_MODULES=

Keep in mind, your settings may vary from mine but some may need to be
just like mine.  Also, if you do a emerge -pv package-name, it will
show what options are on and also what is available to use if nothing is
set.  Not all packages will use those settings so don't be concerned if
it doesn't show them on those.

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)





Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 My Gentoo desktop has had a locale problem for longer than I can
 remember. I haven't been able to solve it on my own, but it didn't
 seem too important. More a frustration. I switched my profile to the
 2008.0 desktop a few days ago. Everything seems to be working but I'm
 getting more of these locale-ish messages now so I'd like to figure
 out what I've done wrong.

 Here's one typical message I might see when running emerge --depclean:

 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = (unset),
   LC_ALL = en_US,
   LANG = (unset)
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

 The line about falling back to the standard locale C is pretty
 standard. I also see this in k3b every time I start the program. As I
 do a lot of audio work I'd really like to make sure the CDs I burn on
 this machine will be acceptable to folks/friends/customers. Here's
 what I see in k3b:

 SNIP
 System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
 Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode
 filenames) is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this
 has been done intentionally. Most likely the locale is not set at all.
 An invalid setting will result in problems when creating data
 projects.
 Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
 environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools
 take care of this.
 SNIP

I don't have a clue what's wrong and the Gentoo pages about locale
 setup seem to make some assumptions about my understanding of what
 this does and how it does it that I'm not living up to so I really
 don't know what to provide. I'll start with this and we'll see how it
 goes. It seems that possibly I'm supposed to hand edit
 /etc/env.d/02locale but in my longish history of running Gentoo (as a
 user type) I don't believe I've ever had to edit that so I'm thinking
 I must have messed up some other config file somewhere?

 Thanks in advance,
 Mark

 lightning ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen
 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
 lightning ~ #

 lightning ~ # locale
 LANG=en_US
 LC_CTYPE=en_US
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US
 LC_TIME=en_US
 LC_COLLATE=en_US
 LC_MONETARY=en_US
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US
 LC_PAPER=en_US
 LC_NAME=en_US
 LC_ADDRESS=en_US
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
 LC_ALL=
 lightning ~ #

 lightning ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
 LANG=en_US
 lightning ~ #




 Check in your /etc/make.conf file and see if you have !some! of this:

 INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
 VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia
 LINGUAS=en
 LANG=en_US
 LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
 SANE_BACKENDS=hp
 NUT_DRIVERS=cyberpower
 ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1
 CAMERAS=canon
 LCD_DEVICES=
 APACHE2_MODULES=

 Keep in mind, your settings may vary from mine but some may need to be
 just like mine.  Also, if you do a emerge -pv package-name, it will
 show what options are on and also what is available to use if nothing is
 set.  Not all packages will use those settings so don't be concerned if
 it doesn't show them on those.

 Hope that helps.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

Dale,
   Thanks. My list seems considerable too small (and possibly
incorrect)  vs yours. I suspect it should be identical. California,
only speak English.

CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j2
FEATURES=parallel-fetch distclean ccache
SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=realmedia quicktime dri radeon mmx mmxext sse sse2 3dnow 3dnowext
gnome kde -esd -arts ladspa nptl nptlonly audiofile gimp gimpprint
ppds usb alsa cdr dvd dvdr dvdread jack jack-tmpfs fluidsynth tcltk
sndfile v4l v4l2 mysql flac xscreensaver -samba i8x0 mythtv apache2
-lirc mjpeg xvid xine cjk unicode vorbis ogg truetype java -eds -dts
a52
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
ALSA_CARDS=hdsp9652 hdsp
VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa
LINGUAS=en en_US
PORTAGE_NICENESS=19
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y
source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf

Looking above I don't have LANG or LC_ALL entries and the LINGUAS is
suspect. If I was to convert them to your settings do I then need to
rebuild any apps that use them?

I tried puting the emerge -epv world results into a file and greping
the file. Does this list look about right? It does contain portage and
k3b which are my most common offenders so I think I'm probably on the
right track.

Thanks!

-Mark


lightning ~ # emerge -epv world EMERGE.WORLD
lightning ~ # cat EMERGE.WORLD | grep LINGUAS
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc16  USE=-build -doc -epydoc
(-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 0 kB [0]
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/man-pages-3.14  USE=nls LINGUAS=-cs -da
-de -es -fr -it -ja -nl -pl -ro -ru -zh_CN 0 kB [0]
[ebuild   R   ] net-misc/neon-0.28.3  USE=nls ssl zlib -doc -expat
-gnutls -kerberos -pkcs11 -socks5 LINGUAS=-cs -de -fr -ja -nn -pl
-ru -tr -zh_CN 0 kB [0]
[ebuild   R   ] app-portage/esearch-0.7.1  

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:35:34 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 All sitting behind a netgear FVS-318
 
 None and I mean absolutely none of those other machines have any
 trouble pinging out to the internet.

 Can you ping the other machines on your LAN?

 Does iptables -L show anything?

No and no... I tried to answer some of those kind of questions in my
OP, sorry it wasn't that clear.




[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Quoting Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window
 irtt Iface
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
 127.0.0.0   127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   UG0 0  0 lo
 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0


 192.168.0.20 is really your gateway?

Yes Its a Netgear FVS-318 router at the head of my home lan between
lan and internet cable modem.


 what's iptables-save output?

Iptable is turned off as mentioned in OP

iptables-save:
iptables-save v1.4.2: Unable to open /proc/net/ip_tables_names: 
   No such file or directory

 ping is the thing you can't do?

Yes.  Again its like this:

I can ping inside the lan no problem
I cannot ping outside the lan but all other lan machines can.

All machines are gatewayed to the same router.  The router config
shows no indication of blocking any part of the lan.  
Router logs show nothing but anyway, logging only occurs in bound.




Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP

 Check in your /etc/make.conf file and see if you have !some! of this:

 INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
 VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia
 LINGUAS=en
 LANG=en_US
 LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
 SANE_BACKENDS=hp
 NUT_DRIVERS=cyberpower
 ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1
 CAMERAS=canon
 LCD_DEVICES=
 APACHE2_MODULES=

 Keep in mind, your settings may vary from mine but some may need to be
 just like mine.  Also, if you do a emerge -pv package-name, it will
 show what options are on and also what is available to use if nothing is
 set.  Not all packages will use those settings so don't be concerned if
 it doesn't show them on those.

 Hope that helps.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)




There seems to be something else going on here. I've made the changes
you suggested - they make sense. I've rerun locale-gen. man locale
suggests locale -a as a way to look at what's set up as public. That
command demonstrates the problem pretty clearly I think, and I suspect
your machine doesn't act the same way:

lightning ~ # locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
POSIX
lightning ~ # locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE=en_US
LC_NUMERIC=en_US
LC_TIME=en_US
LC_COLLATE=en_US
LC_MONETARY=en_US
LC_MESSAGES=en_US
LC_PAPER=en_US
LC_NAME=en_US
LC_ADDRESS=en_US
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
LC_ALL=
lightning ~ #

I'm wondering if I really do need to add more stuff to my 02locale
environment file. Possibly it got messed up during some update?

lightning ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
LANG=en_US
lightning ~ #

If anyone (everyone!) has a machine that acts better on the above
commands could you post back the contents of the 02locale file? This
Gentoo page suggests I might want to edit it:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml

so I tried adding the LC_CTYPE=en_US to it but that didn't fix
anything. It says a directory is missing. What directory?

k3b still generates the warning message even after a reboot. I suspect
it won't go away until I find the solution to running the locale
command above.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Automounting of USB drives

2008-12-07 Thread AJ Spagnoletti
 The kernel automounter (autofs) was not designed with removable media in
 mind, so it's not the best choice for the job. Nearly all Linux desktops
 today come with a hal/dbus based solution for mounting USB devices on
 demand.


Thanks for the info and suggestions from others, since I am using
gnome, I will look into gnome-volume-manager to take care of removable
media for me.



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:
 Dale,
Thanks. My list seems considerable too small (and possibly
 incorrect)  vs yours. I suspect it should be identical. California,
 only speak English.

 CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
 CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
 MAKEOPTS=-j2
 FEATURES=parallel-fetch distclean ccache
 SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
 USE=realmedia quicktime dri radeon mmx mmxext sse sse2 3dnow 3dnowext
 gnome kde -esd -arts ladspa nptl nptlonly audiofile gimp gimpprint
 ppds usb alsa cdr dvd dvdr dvdread jack jack-tmpfs fluidsynth tcltk
 sndfile v4l v4l2 mysql flac xscreensaver -samba i8x0 mythtv apache2
 -lirc mjpeg xvid xine cjk unicode vorbis ogg truetype java -eds -dts
 a52
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
 ALSA_CARDS=hdsp9652 hdsp
 VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa
 LINGUAS=en en_US
 PORTAGE_NICENESS=19
 EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y
 source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf

 Looking above I don't have LANG or LC_ALL entries and the LINGUAS is
 suspect. If I was to convert them to your settings do I then need to
 rebuild any apps that use them?

 I tried puting the emerge -epv world results into a file and greping
 the file. Does this list look about right? It does contain portage and
 k3b which are my most common offenders so I think I'm probably on the
 right track.

 Thanks!

 -Mark


 lightning ~ # emerge -epv world EMERGE.WORLD
 lightning ~ # cat EMERGE.WORLD | grep LINGUAS
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc16  USE=-build -doc -epydoc
 (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/man-pages-3.14  USE=nls LINGUAS=-cs -da
 -de -es -fr -it -ja -nl -pl -ro -ru -zh_CN 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] net-misc/neon-0.28.3  USE=nls ssl zlib -doc -expat
 -gnutls -kerberos -pkcs11 -socks5 LINGUAS=-cs -de -fr -ja -nn -pl
 -ru -tr -zh_CN 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] app-portage/esearch-0.7.1  LINGUAS=-it 0 kB [?=0]
 [ebuild   R   ] app-text/xpdf-3.02-r1  USE=-nodrm LINGUAS=-ar -el
 -he -ja -ko -la -ru -th -tr -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-2.0.0.18
 USE=-restrict-javascript LINGUAS=en en_US -af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs
 -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE
 -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn
 -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr
 -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.18  USE=gnome java
 -bindist -debug -filepicker -iceweasel -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango
 -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint LINGUAS=en en_US -af
 -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr
 -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk
 -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru
 -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.50  USE=firefox (multilib)
 nls quicktime realmedia -divx -gmedia -gtk -seamonkey -wmp -xulrunner
 LINGUAS=en_US -cs -da -de -es -fr -hu -it -ja -ko -nb -nl -pl -pt_BR
 -ru -se -sk -tr -wa -zh_CN 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.8-r2  USE=X acl dbus java jpeg
 ldap pam perl png ppds python samba ssl tiff -avahi -gnutls -kerberos
 -php -slp -static -xinetd -zeroconf LINGUAS=en -de -es -et -fr -he
 -id -it -ja -pl -sv -zh_TW 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-bin-3.0.0  USE=gnome java kde
 LINGUAS=en -af -ar -as_IN -be_BY -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -da -de -dz -el
 -en_GB -en_ZA -es -et -fi -fr -ga -gu -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -it -ja -ka
 -km -ko -lt -mk -ml_IN -mr_IN -nb -ne -nl -nn -nr -ns -or_IN -pa_IN
 -pl -pt -pt_BR -rw -sh -sk -sl -sr -ss -st -sv -sw_TZ -ta -te_IN -tg
 -th -ti_ER -tr -ts -uk -ur_IN -ve -vi -xh -zh_CN -zh_TW -zu 0 kB [0]
 [ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.4  USE=alsa dvdr dvdread encode
 ffmpeg flac hal mp3 sndfile vorbis -arts -css -debug -emovix -musepack
 -musicbrainz -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy
 -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it
 -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se
 -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB [0]
 lightning ~ # cat EMERGE.WORLD | grep LANG
 lightning ~ # cat EMERGE.WORLD | grep LC
 lightning ~ #


   
I'm not sure if the -N feature will catch those changes or not.  It may
even depend on the version of portage you are using too.  The newer
versions of portage has a lot of added features but even it may not
catch those.  You may try emerge -vNDp world and see if it sees which
ones needs to be emerged for them to take effect.  That may cure the
other problems as well. 

Regarding the other email you sent:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # locale
LANG=
LC_CTYPE=en_US
LC_NUMERIC=en_US
LC_TIME=en_US
LC_COLLATE=en_US
LC_MONETARY=en_US
LC_MESSAGES=en_US
LC_PAPER=en_US
LC_NAME=en_US
LC_ADDRESS=en_US
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
LC_ALL=en_US
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

and

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # cat 

Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Undo Command

2008-12-07 Thread smallnow
do you have a ~/.vimrc?
Try
:map u
and see if there is a mapping.

- Ian

Supreme wrote:
 Thanks for your reply,
 
 I dont have gvim installed. I'll install it and see if I get the same error.




[gentoo-user] 32-bit emulation not working with tsmuxer

2008-12-07 Thread Grant
I'm trying to use the 32-bit tsmuxer on my 64-bit system but I get:

$ ./tsMuxeR
/tmp/tmp.UObdGrc5Iz/tsMuxeR:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/32/libstdc++.so.6: version
`GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /tmp/tmp.UObdGrc5Iz/tsMuxeR)

I have emul-linux-x86-baselibs and emul-linux-x86-compat installed and
I have IA32 Emulation enabled in my kernel.  Does this mean I need to
set up a 32-bit chroot?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP

 I'm not sure if the -N feature will catch those changes or not.  It may
 even depend on the version of portage you are using too.  The newer
 versions of portage has a lot of added features but even it may not
 catch those.  You may try emerge -vNDp world and see if it sees which
 ones needs to be emerged for them to take effect.  That may cure the
 other problems as well.

Tried it by hand - just rebuilding k3b. Didn't solve it.

I'm most interested right now in these missing file/directory
messages. What file or directory might it be looking for?

lightning ~ # locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
POSIX
lightning ~ #

I tried modifying /etc/env.d/02locale and got a change, but only after
restarting X. (Or so I think. I'm getting confused at this point...) I
Added LC_COLLATE and LC_CTYPE. The LC_COLLATE message went away. The
LC_CTYPE message is unchanged.

lightning ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
LANG=en_US
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
lightning ~ # locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
C
POSIX
lightning ~ #


I think I may well have some misspelling somewhere.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Edenfield

Mark Knecht wrote:


lightning ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen
en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8


Just to be safe, try running locale-gen again.  The glibc 
ebuild does this automatically, but if you've changed 
locale.gen since the last time that ebuild ran, you need to 
run locale-gen to pick up the changes.



lightning ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
LANG=en_US


I think that adding LC_ALL=en_US in this file should be 
all you need.  Basically, your locale is made up of about 
a dozen different settings that describe how to display 
things like dates, money, big numbers, sorted lists, etc. 
Each of these options has an LC_* variable associated with 
it.  Additionally, there is a LANG variable that specifies 
which language translation to use (LANGUAGES is a 
GNU-specific alternative to LC_MESSAGES, IIRC, and I rarely 
specify it).


LC_ALL is used if you know you want the use one locale for 
everything, and specifying LC_ALL=en_US will automatically 
set all of the others for you.  Setting that end rerunning 
env-update ; source /etc/profile should get rid of those 
locale errors.




Looking above I don't have LANG or LC_ALL entries and the LINGUAS is
suspect. If I was to convert them to your settings do I then need to
rebuild any apps that use them?


You don't need LANG/LC_ALL in your make.conf if they are set 
properly in your environment, e.g. in env.d/02locale, since 
they are both run-time environment settings that you want to 
be the same everywhere.


LINGUAS is a build-time setting that tells any 
localization-aware autoconf scripts to install the language 
translation files for the set of languages you listed. 
Having LINGUAS=en en_US in make.conf is correct, it makes 
sure that only English-language translations are installed. 
 (Not all applications are LINGUAS-aware, so you will still 
see a lot of other languages you didn't ask for.).




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:30:05 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Yes Its a Netgear FVS-318 router at the head of my home lan between
 lan and internet cable modem.

Can you ping the router?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

With free advice you often get what you pay for.


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Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SNIP
   
 I'm not sure if the -N feature will catch those changes or not.  It may
 even depend on the version of portage you are using too.  The newer
 versions of portage has a lot of added features but even it may not
 catch those.  You may try emerge -vNDp world and see if it sees which
 ones needs to be emerged for them to take effect.  That may cure the
 other problems as well.
 

 Tried it by hand - just rebuilding k3b. Didn't solve it.

 I'm most interested right now in these missing file/directory
 messages. What file or directory might it be looking for?

 lightning ~ # locale -a
 locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
 C
 POSIX
 lightning ~ #

 I tried modifying /etc/env.d/02locale and got a change, but only after
 restarting X. (Or so I think. I'm getting confused at this point...) I
 Added LC_COLLATE and LC_CTYPE. The LC_COLLATE message went away. The
 LC_CTYPE message is unchanged.

 lightning ~ # cat /etc/env.d/02locale
 LANG=en_US
 LC_COLLATE=C
 LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
 lightning ~ # locale -a
 locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
 C
 POSIX
 lightning ~ #


 I think I may well have some misspelling somewhere.

 Thanks,
 Mark


   

I think glibc is the one that locale belongs to, maybe try re-emerging
it and see if that helps.  Also make sure you have ran etc-update or
whatever you use to manage config updates too.

I'm pasting my emerge --info here just in case it may help.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge --info
Portage 2.2_rc17 (default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 i686)
=
System uname:
Linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r8-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_XP_2500+-with-glibc2.0
Timestamp of tree: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:45:01 +
distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632)
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Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Edenfield

Mark Knecht wrote:


lightning ~ # locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
POSIX


This looks like the problem: you have specified that you 
want to use en_US as your locale, but you don't have that 
locale installed.


You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every 
locale you want available on your system.  The source files 
for the locales should be in /usr/share/i18n/locales and 
/usr/share/i18n/charsets.  That is, you should have all of 
the following:


/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US
/usr/share/i18n/charsets/ISO8859-1
/usr/share/i18n/charsets/UTF-8
/usr/share/locale/en_US.ISO8859-1
/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8

If you are missing the last two, rerunning locale-gen should 
create them.  If you're missing any of the first three, then 
you will probably need to emerge -1 glibc to get everything 
back.


--Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Edenfield

Dale wrote:


I'm not sure if the -N feature will catch those changes or not.  It may
even depend on the version of portage you are using too.  The newer


--newuse will pick up changes to LINGUAS since portage 
treats that like an expandable variable (like VIDEO_CARDS 
etc).  The other settings have no direct effect on the USE 
flags, so portage won't notice anything.


You also don't need to reinstall an application to switch 
locales, as long as the language packs for your new locale 
are installed via LINGUAS and/or by default.


--Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:

 lightning ~ # locale -a
 locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or
 directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
 C
 POSIX

 This looks like the problem: you have specified that you want to use en_US
 as your locale, but you don't have that locale installed.

 You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every locale you want
 available on your system.  The source files for the locales should be in
 /usr/share/i18n/locales and /usr/share/i18n/charsets.  That is, you should
 have all of the following:

 /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/UTF-8
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8

 If you are missing the last two, rerunning locale-gen should create them.
  If you're missing any of the first three, then you will probably need to
 emerge -1 glibc to get everything back.

 --Mike



Hi Mike,
   Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories!
/usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I
want. It's missing en_US.utf8 and en_US.ISO8859-1. Also, all of what I
think are the font files are in a directory called charmaps, not
charsets, like yours: (This is an AMD64 machine so maybe that's part
of the difference?)

lightning ~ # ls /usr/share/i18n
SUPPORTED  charmaps  locales
lightning ~ #

   Before I do something stupid, can I erase all this /usr/share stuff
by hand, then re-emerge glibc, rerun locale-gen to get the right
stuff. I suspect that since I had weird settings in make.conf, now
fixed with Dale's help, that now if I re-emerge glibc maybe I'll get
the right stuff?

lightning ~ # ls /usr/share/locale/
af[EMAIL PROTECTED]  eo es_PR  gl jami   or
   sotk   xh
amcs   es es_SV  gn kamk   pa
   sqtl   yi
ang   cs_CZes_AR  es_UY  gr kkml   pl
   srtr   yo
arcy   es_CL  es_VE  gu kmmn
pl_PL  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   tt   zh_CN
asda   es_CO  et hawknmr   ps
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]ug   zh_HK
azde   es_CR  et_EE  he koms   pt
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  uk   zh_TW
bede_DEes_DO  eu hi kok   mt
pt_BR  svur   zu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  dz   es_EC  fa hr kunb
pt_PT  sv_SE ur_PK
bgel   es_ES  fi hu ky[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ro
   swuz
bnel_GRes_GT  fo hy line   ru
   ta[EMAIL PROTECTED]
bn_IN en   es_HN  fr id locale.alias  nl
ru_RU  teve
bren_AUes_MX  fr_FR  io ltnn   rw
   tgvi
bsen_CAes_NI  furis lvno   si
   thwa
byn   en_GBes_PA  ga it mai   nso  sk
   tiwal
caen_USes_PE  gezit_IT  mgoc   sl
   tig   wo
lightning ~ #

lightning ~ # ls /usr/share/i18n/
SUPPORTED  charmaps  locales
lightning ~ #



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread smallnow
Mike Edenfield wrote:
 You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every locale you
 want available on your system.  The source files for the locales should
 be in /usr/share/i18n/locales and /usr/share/i18n/charsets.  That is,
 you should have all of the following:

 /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/UTF-8
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8

Um, on my system, i have
/usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz
/usr/share/i18n/charmaps/IS8859-1.gz
notice charmaps vs charsets
the other folders all have en_US files and folders, no utf8 extensions. And my
locale stuff seems to work fine. Do you actually have those files on your
computer or did you just type them from memory and get them wrong?
I do locale -a and get:
C
POSIX
en_US
en_US.iso88591
en_US.utf8
also, I do locale-gen and it succeeds and I don't get any of the files you
mentioned.

Heres my suggestion to the original poster. I would heed the warning in the
gentoo guide not to set LC_ALL. I also have a lot of other files under those
directories and I would just leave them alone, but if you want to delete them,
just move them so you can move them back later if it doesn't help. I think one
of your problems might be that you need to set all your locale variables in
02locale. Then do eselect env update and relogin. Also you should have 644
permissions on these files.

 cat /etc/env.d/02locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8


 cat /etc/locale.gen

en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.utf8 UTF-8




Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 04:42:53PM -0800, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked:
Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories!
 /usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I
 want. It's missing en_US.utf8 and en_US.ISO8859-1. Also, all of what I
 think are the font files are in a directory called charmaps, not
 charsets, like yours: (This is an AMD64 machine so maybe that's part
 of the difference?)
 
 lightning ~ # ls /usr/share/i18n
 SUPPORTED  charmaps  locales
 lightning ~ #
 
Before I do something stupid, can I erase all this /usr/share stuff
 by hand, then re-emerge glibc, rerun locale-gen to get the right
 stuff. I suspect that since I had weird settings in make.conf, now
 fixed with Dale's help, that now if I re-emerge glibc maybe I'll get
 the right stuff?
 

My apologies for jumping in kind of late in this thread, and I am not
sure if you have answered this question already, but what do you have
as the content of /etc/locale.gen ?  I ask because this is useful
prior to you issuing emerge glibc again.

Best, 

W
-- 
You should be excited by this, because it is an equation you can solve.
~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 730 days, 23:59



[gentoo-user] ati-drivers won't compile

2008-12-07 Thread Daniel D Jones
I can't get ati-drivers to compile.  I'll post the entire output at the bottom 
of the message but the error seems to be:

firegl_public.c:41:2: error: #error unknown or undefined architecture 
configured

There have been known issues with this compiling with newer kernels but all of 
the bug reports I've found indicated that the bug has been fixed in the 
masked packages and the bug reports closed.  I've unmasked 8.542 with no 
change.  I'm running a custom compiled 2.6.27 kernel but I've tried going 
with gentoo-sources 2.6.26-r3 and r4.

Regardless of which version of the package I try to install or which kernel 
I'm running, I get the same error.  Here's the full output:


 Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542 to /
 * ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...   
[ ok ]
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...  [ 
ok ]
 * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ 
ok ]
 * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...[ 
ok ]
 * checking ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run ;-) ...  [ 
ok ]
 * Determining the location of the kernel source code
 * Found kernel source directory:
 * /usr/src/linux
 * Found sources for kernel version:
 * 2.6.27
 Unpacking source...
Warning: target directory 
exists /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux 
Driver-8.542...
 * Applying ati-drivers-2.6.27.patch ...
  [ ok ]
 * Converting 2.6.x/Makefile to use M= instead of SUBDIRS= ...
  [ ok ]
 Unpacking ./../common/usr/src/ati/fglrx_sample_source.tgz 
to /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/extra
 Source unpacked.
 Compiling source 
in /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work ...
 * Preparing fglrx module
make -C /usr/src/linux 
M=/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x
 
modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.27'
  CC 
[M]  
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o
  CC 
[M]  
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_io.o
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:41:2:
 
error: #error unknown or undefined architecture configured
  CC 
[M]  
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_pci.o
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:
 
In function '__ke_vm_phys_addr_str':
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3528:
 
warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3529:
 
warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3530:
 
warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3532:
 
warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:
 
At top level:
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5780:
 
warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5806:
 
warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
make[2]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o]
 
Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: *** 

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 04:42:53PM -0800, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked:
Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories!
 /usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I
 want. It's missing en_US.utf8 and en_US.ISO8859-1. Also, all of what I
 think are the font files are in a directory called charmaps, not
 charsets, like yours: (This is an AMD64 machine so maybe that's part
 of the difference?)

 lightning ~ # ls /usr/share/i18n
 SUPPORTED  charmaps  locales
 lightning ~ #

Before I do something stupid, can I erase all this /usr/share stuff
 by hand, then re-emerge glibc, rerun locale-gen to get the right
 stuff. I suspect that since I had weird settings in make.conf, now
 fixed with Dale's help, that now if I re-emerge glibc maybe I'll get
 the right stuff?


 My apologies for jumping in kind of late in this thread, and I am not
 sure if you have answered this question already, but what do you have
 as the content of /etc/locale.gen ?  I ask because this is useful
 prior to you issuing emerge glibc again.

 Best,

 W

Always room for another voice. Thanks for joining.

Current contents of /etc/locale.gen were copied from the Gentoo Base
System install instructions at the bottom of the page:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6

lightning ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen
en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
lightning ~ #

When I run locale-gen the results look at least reasonable to me:

lightning ~ # locale-gen
 * Generating 2 locales (this might take a while) with 1 jobs
 *  (1/2) Generating en_US.ISO-8859-1 ...
  [ ok ]
 *  (2/2) Generating en_US.UTF-8 ...
  [ ok ]
 * Generation complete
lightning ~ #

man locale-gen says it puts everything in /usr/lib/locale which has
little on this machine:

lightning ~ # ls -al /usr/lib/locale/
total 1504
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root4096 2008-12-07 18:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 115 root root   65536 2008-12-07 14:48 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   0 2008-12-02 15:06 .keep_sys-libs_glibc-2.2
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1520480 2008-12-07 18:42 locale-archive
lightning ~ #

Similar stuff in /usr/lib32/locale and /usr/lib64/locale. It seems
that these are the files modified by locale-gen:

lightning ~ # ls -al  /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1520480 2008-12-07 18:42 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
lightning ~ # date
Sun Dec  7 18:53:33 PST 2008
lightning ~ # locale-gen
 * Generating 2 locales (this might take a while) with 1 jobs
 *  (1/2) Generating en_US.ISO-8859-1 ...
  [ ok ]
 *  (2/2) Generating en_US.UTF-8 ...
  [ ok ]
 * Generation complete
lightning ~ # ls -al  /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1520480 2008-12-07 18:53 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
lightning ~ #

The date is updated after running locale-gen.

   I guess what I have left to decide is what to do with
/etc/env.d/02locale. smallnow suggests putting everything in there it
seems. I suspect others here have working systems but nothing in those
files. I've never modified that file in 8 years of running Gentoo. I
suppose I probably missed the memo! I tried to solve this problem a
couple of months ago and heard something similar on the gentoo-64 list
but didn't get far enough to want to do it. Maybe now's the time?

Thanks,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Hi,

I recently switched to gmail.  I did some searches to see how to disable
or just make it so gmail's spam filter does not move anything to the
spam folder.  They don't work.  Does someone here know of a way to get
rid of this thing?  It's getting on my nerves and I am even considering
switching to Yahoo or something.  I even thought about just marking
everything it thinks is spam as not spam.  Sort of mess up their stuff
but if it works, may try it next.

Thanks!

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I recently switched to gmail.  I did some searches to see how to disable
 or just make it so gmail's spam filter does not move anything to the
 spam folder.  They don't work.  Does someone here know of a way to get
 rid of this thing?  It's getting on my nerves and I am even considering
 switching to Yahoo or something.  I even thought about just marking
 everything it thinks is spam as not spam.  Sort of mess up their stuff
 but if it works, may try it next.

Set up a filter that covers all of your mail and choose never send to
spam as the action to perform. Should do the trick.

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:14 PM, smallnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike Edenfield wrote:
 You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every locale you
 want available on your system.  The source files for the locales should
 be in /usr/share/i18n/locales and /usr/share/i18n/charsets.  That is,
 you should have all of the following:

 /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/UTF-8
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8

 Um, on my system, i have
 /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz
 /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/IS8859-1.gz
 notice charmaps vs charsets
 the other folders all have en_US files and folders, no utf8 extensions. And my
 locale stuff seems to work fine. Do you actually have those files on your
 computer or did you just type them from memory and get them wrong?
 I do locale -a and get:
 C
 POSIX
 en_US
 en_US.iso88591
 en_US.utf8
 also, I do locale-gen and it succeeds and I don't get any of the files you
 mentioned.

 Heres my suggestion to the original poster. I would heed the warning in the
 gentoo guide not to set LC_ALL. I also have a lot of other files under those
 directories and I would just leave them alone, but if you want to delete them,
 just move them so you can move them back later if it doesn't help. I think one
 of your problems might be that you need to set all your locale variables in
 02locale. Then do eselect env update and relogin. Also you should have 644
 permissions on these files.

  cat /etc/env.d/02locale
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_COLLATE=POSIX
 LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8


  cat /etc/locale.gen

 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_US.utf8 UTF-8


You may be correct about setting all of this in 02locale. I noticed
that the Gentoo formatting stuff for vi is treating LC_ALL and
LC_COLLATE differently than LINGUAS. The manual seems to say set
system wide stuff in 02locale and user stuff in your own account.

[[ Two minutes later... ]]

OK, I changed 02locale and just put your values in. I rane eselect env
update, logged out and back in. For the first time locale -a looks
good:

lightning ~ # locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
lightning ~ # locale -a
C
POSIX
en_US
en_US.iso88591
en_US.utf8
lightning ~ #

   At this point I may be clean but I'm going to emerge glibc just to be sure.

   Back later...

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I recently switched to gmail.  I did some searches to see how to disable
 or just make it so gmail's spam filter does not move anything to the
 spam folder.  They don't work.  Does someone here know of a way to get
 rid of this thing?  It's getting on my nerves and I am even considering
 switching to Yahoo or something.  I even thought about just marking
 everything it thinks is spam as not spam.  Sort of mess up their stuff
 but if it works, may try it next.

 Thanks!

 Dale


My experience is that it learns fairly quickly what's spam and what
isn't, but I have about 50 labels I created - different lists, family,
etc. for which I wrote simple rules. That keeps most stuff going to
the right place. I get about 30 spam a day which is pretty easy to
read through just once a day.

Works for me.

Good luck,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I recently switched to gmail.  I did some searches to see how to disable
 or just make it so gmail's spam filter does not move anything to the
 spam folder.  They don't work.  Does someone here know of a way to get
 rid of this thing?  It's getting on my nerves and I am even considering
 switching to Yahoo or something.  I even thought about just marking
 everything it thinks is spam as not spam.  Sort of mess up their stuff
 but if it works, may try it next.
 

 Set up a filter that covers all of your mail and choose never send to
 spam as the action to perform. Should do the trick.

 Paul


   


I tried that and the option is not on mine to never send it to spam.  It
has other options but none that help me bypass it.

Ideas?

Dale

:-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I recently switched to gmail.  I did some searches to see how to disable
 or just make it so gmail's spam filter does not move anything to the
 spam folder.  They don't work.  Does someone here know of a way to get
 rid of this thing?  It's getting on my nerves and I am even considering
 switching to Yahoo or something.  I even thought about just marking
 everything it thinks is spam as not spam.  Sort of mess up their stuff
 but if it works, may try it next.

 Thanks!

 Dale

 

 My experience is that it learns fairly quickly what's spam and what
 isn't, but I have about 50 labels I created - different lists, family,
 etc. for which I wrote simple rules. That keeps most stuff going to
 the right place. I get about 30 spam a day which is pretty easy to
 read through just once a day.

 Works for me.

 Good luck,
 Mark


   

Thing is, I use POP not the webmail thing.  I have a really slow dial-up
and don't want to have to log in to get my email.  I might also mention
that I have a ton of false positives, about as many as is spam.  I got
my Seamonkey trained pretty well.  It is VERY close to 100% dead on. 
Gmail is wrong more than it is right.

Ideas?

Dale

:-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I recently switched to gmail.  I did some searches to see how to disable
 or just make it so gmail's spam filter does not move anything to the
 spam folder.  They don't work.  Does someone here know of a way to get
 rid of this thing?  It's getting on my nerves and I am even considering
 switching to Yahoo or something.  I even thought about just marking
 everything it thinks is spam as not spam.  Sort of mess up their stuff
 but if it works, may try it next.


 Set up a filter that covers all of your mail and choose never send to
 spam as the action to perform. Should do the trick.

 Paul





 I tried that and the option is not on mine to never send it to spam.  It
 has other options but none that help me bypass it.

 Ideas?

It's on the second page of the filter setup. Mine gives me these options:

Skip the Inbox (Archive it)
Mark as read
Star it
Apply the label:
Forward it to:
Delete it
Never send it to Spam

I have it set up for mail from this list and it works great. It even
puts a little note letting you this message would have been sent to
spam if not for your filter.



Re: [gentoo-user] Digital photo enhancement?

2008-12-07 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

I have achieved good results with a combo of CImp + digikam.
If you want the bleeding edge of development, use svn checkouts
of both -- I have had nearly no problem with those.

Kind regards,
mcc




Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-12-07 17:24]:
 Ah, OK. I have the gimp around but don't use it myself. I'll give it a try.
 
 Thanks Peter.
 
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Peter Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  Hi,
  Try the gimp. There are quite a few tutorials out there that explain how
  to deal with grainy pictures. Just google for them.
  Here is one that may help: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Reducing_CCD_Noise/
  Best,
  Peter
 
  Mark Knecht wrote:
  Hi,
 I'm wondering what apps I might play with to try enhancing a few
  grainy digital ancestoral photos my wife ran across? I looked in the
  online database but didn't find anything. eix isn't telling me
  anything. Even Google isn't finding too much and none of it is Open
  Source as far as I can tell so far.
 
 Doesn't bother me if the program is slow. It can be gui-based or
  command line. Just want to play around if there's something to try out
  and I only have a couple of pictures to play with.
 
  Thanks,
  Mark
 
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
  Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux)
  Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
 
  iEYEARECAAYFAkk79c4ACgkQpGFGVEw9tBk4iwCgumdj0Fxf4C9Nmopu4u9HrX9z
  g+EAnRKLyW3ohD4ziEVU7i0jktkbcCss
  =+n43
  -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
 
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:

 It's on the second page of the filter setup. Mine gives me these options:

 Skip the Inbox (Archive it)
 Mark as read
 Star it
 Apply the label:
 Forward it to:
 Delete it
 Never send it to Spam

 I have it set up for mail from this list and it works great. It even
 puts a little note letting you this message would have been sent to
 spam if not for your filter.




 I have all those but the last one.  That is also what everybody had when
 I was doing my google searches.  Why does Google hate me?  lol

 Screen shot attached.  I cropped it so it will be smaller.

I think I know what your problem is. You appear to be using Basic
HTML gmail which apparently does not include that option (I just
tried it and it disappeared when I went to basic mode). Try switching
to Standard gmail for a minute to set it up. Good luck :)

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 
 It's on the second page of the filter setup. Mine gives me these options:

 Skip the Inbox (Archive it)
 Mark as read
 Star it
 Apply the label:
 Forward it to:
 Delete it
 Never send it to Spam

 I have it set up for mail from this list and it works great. It even
 puts a little note letting you this message would have been sent to
 spam if not for your filter.



   
 I have all those but the last one.  That is also what everybody had when
 I was doing my google searches.  Why does Google hate me?  lol

 Screen shot attached.  I cropped it so it will be smaller.
 

 I think I know what your problem is. You appear to be using Basic
 HTML gmail which apparently does not include that option (I just
 tried it and it disappeared when I went to basic mode). Try switching
 to Standard gmail for a minute to set it up. Good luck :)

 Paul


   


I'll try it but it doesn't like my slow as leap year dial-up.  BRB.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] ENCfs and unclean umount

2008-12-07 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

since my box goes in heavy overload (sys CPU load=100%) I had to
emergency reboot it.
There was an ENCfs encrypted partition mounted at that time.

Can I fscheck that partition ? How ? 

Kind regards,
mcc

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
   
 
 
 I think I know what your problem is. You appear to be using Basic
 HTML gmail which apparently does not include that option (I just
 tried it and it disappeared when I went to basic mode). Try switching
 to Standard gmail for a minute to set it up. Good luck :)

 Paul


   
 


 I'll try it but it doesn't like my slow as leap year dial-up.  BRB.

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

   

Cool!  It tried hard to error out on me but I got there.  The option was
there that time.  I guess I'll know in a few days if it works or not.  I
had a ton of emails from friends in the spam box.  There was only a few
spam messages tho.

Thanks much.  I was about to switch to Yahoo and pay for POP access. 
After getting the bill for my recent hospital stay, I need to save all I
can.

Dale

:-)  :-) 





Re: [gentoo-user] ENCfs and unclean umount

2008-12-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 05:32 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 since my box goes in heavy overload (sys CPU load=100%) I had to
 emergency reboot it.
 There was an ENCfs encrypted partition mounted at that time.
 
 Can I fscheck that partition ? How ? 
 

There really aren't any encfs partitions.  Encfs is a filesystem that
sits on top of another filesystem (akin to unionfs).  If you want to
check filesystem integrity then fsck the hosting filesystem.




Re: [gentoo-user] ENCfs and unclean umount

2008-12-07 Thread meino . cramer
Hi Albert,

that's goiod news !!! :)

I thought it was vice versa...

This makes things a lot easier for me!

Kind regards
mcc


Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-12-08 05:58]:
 On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 05:32 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  since my box goes in heavy overload (sys CPU load=100%) I had to
  emergency reboot it.
  There was an ENCfs encrypted partition mounted at that time.
  
  Can I fscheck that partition ? How ? 
  
 
 There really aren't any encfs partitions.  Encfs is a filesystem that
 sits on top of another filesystem (akin to unionfs).  If you want to
 check filesystem integrity then fsck the hosting filesystem.
 
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-07 Thread James Wall
On Saturday 06 December 2008 15:21:59 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:53:46 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
   ath_pci   196472  0
  
   So I am sending this over my wireless connection without using the
   wireless module. If the 0 means it is truly unused, I could rmmod
   it and not notice any difference.
 
  Why don't you try?

 If I did, you'd never see the result...

 % sudo rmmod -v ath_pci
 rmmod ath_pci, wait=no
 % ping 192.168.1.8
 connect: Network is unreachable
Hi all,
I use pcimodules and usbmodules to determine what modules I have installed for 
example:

jwlaptop ~ # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal 
gfx)
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express 
Port 1)
00:07.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express 
Port 3)
00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 
Series]
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 
02)
03:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 
05)
03:01.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host 
Adapter (rev 22)
03:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 12)
03:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter 
(rev 12)
03:01.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)
0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 
01)
jwlaptop ~ # pcimodules
ricoh_mmc
sdhci-pci
ohci1394
b44
ssb
k8temp
snd-hda-intel
atiixp
i2c-piix4
ehci-hcd
ohci-hcd
jwlaptop ~ # lsusb
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
jwlaptop ~ # usbmodules
jwlaptop ~ #

as you can see it doesn't catch everything but it gives you a good idea what 
modules are critical.
HTH 

James Wall




Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:14 PM, smallnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike Edenfield wrote:
 You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every locale you
 want available on your system.  The source files for the locales should
 be in /usr/share/i18n/locales and /usr/share/i18n/charsets.  That is,
 you should have all of the following:

 /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/i18n/charsets/UTF-8
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.ISO8859-1
 /usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8

 Um, on my system, i have
 /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz
 /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/IS8859-1.gz
 notice charmaps vs charsets
 the other folders all have en_US files and folders, no utf8 extensions. And 
 my
 locale stuff seems to work fine. Do you actually have those files on your
 computer or did you just type them from memory and get them wrong?
 I do locale -a and get:
 C
 POSIX
 en_US
 en_US.iso88591
 en_US.utf8
 also, I do locale-gen and it succeeds and I don't get any of the files you
 mentioned.

 Heres my suggestion to the original poster. I would heed the warning in the
 gentoo guide not to set LC_ALL. I also have a lot of other files under those
 directories and I would just leave them alone, but if you want to delete 
 them,
 just move them so you can move them back later if it doesn't help. I think 
 one
 of your problems might be that you need to set all your locale variables in
 02locale. Then do eselect env update and relogin. Also you should have 644
 permissions on these files.

  cat /etc/env.d/02locale
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_COLLATE=POSIX
 LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8


  cat /etc/locale.gen

 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_US.utf8 UTF-8


 You may be correct about setting all of this in 02locale. I noticed
 that the Gentoo formatting stuff for vi is treating LC_ALL and
 LC_COLLATE differently than LINGUAS. The manual seems to say set
 system wide stuff in 02locale and user stuff in your own account.

 [[ Two minutes later... ]]

 OK, I changed 02locale and just put your values in. I rane eselect env
 update, logged out and back in. For the first time locale -a looks
 good:

 lightning ~ # locale
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_COLLATE=POSIX
 LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
 LC_ALL=
 lightning ~ # locale -a
 C
 POSIX
 en_US
 en_US.iso88591
 en_US.utf8
 lightning ~ #

   At this point I may be clean but I'm going to emerge glibc just to be sure.

   Back later...

 Cheers,
 Mark


Hi all,
   OK, it appears that this has solved the problem as best I can tell
right now. The two most consist manifestations of the problem - error
messages when running layman and warning messages when starting k3b -
are all gone.

   The solution in my case for anyone who might find this thread later was:

1) Move all the locale stuff out of /etc/make.conf. I now only have
the LINGUAS statement in there.

2) Move all the locale stuff into /etc/env.d/02locale. I'm not
qualified to say what the right set of statements in 02locale might
be. I copied the ones kindly provided by smallnow. I did not set
LC_ALL.

3) Possibly most important run eselect env update. I've been running
the older env-update script. I guess I did miss the memo! ;-)

   At this point the machine seems the happiest it's been in months.
I'll of course have to watch it go through some updates over the next
few weeks but the obvious issues seem solved.

Good night, over and out,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers won't compile

2008-12-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 08 Dezember 2008, Daniel D Jones wrote:
 I can't get ati-drivers to compile.  I'll post the entire output at the
 bottom of the message but the error seems to be:

 firegl_public.c:41:2: error: #error unknown or undefined architecture
 configured

 There have been known issues with this compiling with newer kernels but all
 of the bug reports I've found indicated that the bug has been fixed in the
 masked packages and the bug reports closed.  I've unmasked 8.542 with no
 change.  I'm running a custom compiled 2.6.27 kernel but I've tried going
 with gentoo-sources 2.6.26-r3 and r4.

 Regardless of which version of the package I try to install or which kernel

 I'm running, I get the same error.  Here's the full output:
  Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542 to /

  * ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
 [ ok ]
  * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...  [
 ok ]
  * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [
 ok ]
  * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...[
 ok ]
  * checking ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run ;-) ...  [
 ok ]
  * Determining the location of the kernel source code
  * Found kernel source directory:
  * /usr/src/linux
  * Found sources for kernel version:
  * 2.6.27

  Unpacking source...

 Warning: target directory
 exists /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work
 Verifying archive integrity... All good.
 Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux
 Driver-8.542...









 * Applying
 ati-drivers-2.6.27.patch ...
   [ ok ]
  * Converting 2.6.x/Makefile to use M= instead of SUBDIRS= ...
   [ ok ]

  Unpacking ./../common/usr/src/ati/fglrx_sample_source.tgz

 to /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/extra

  Source unpacked.
  Compiling source

 in /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work ...
  * Preparing fglrx module
 make -C /usr/src/linux
 M=/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fg
lrx/build_mod/2.6.x modules
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.27'
   CC
 [M] 
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o CC
 [M] 
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_io.o
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:41:2: error: #error unknown or undefined
 architecture configured
   CC
 [M] 
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_pci.o
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function '__ke_vm_phys_addr_str':
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3528: warning: return makes pointer from
 integer without a cast
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3529: warning: return makes pointer from
 integer without a cast
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3530: warning: return makes pointer from
 integer without a cast
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3532: warning: return makes pointer from
 integer without a cast
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: At top level:
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5780: warning: initialization from
 incompatible pointer type
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fglr
x/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5806: warning: initialization from
 incompatible pointer type
 make[2]: ***
 [/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.542/work/common/lib/modules/fgl
rx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o] Error 1
 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 

[gentoo-user] Re: Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping

2008-12-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:30:05 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Yes Its a Netgear FVS-318 router at the head of my home lan between
 lan and internet cable modem.

 Can you ping the router?

Yes, usually my first test during network hookups.  Its just such a
natural thing to ping outside for testing resolv.conf, that its quite
aggravating every time I forget which machine I'm on and try it from
the one where it won't work.

Not only can I ping the router... but I can connect with tcp to
anything I want to on the internet.  

Its just that I can't ping the internet.  So its something I can live
with for the most part but every so often the ingrained habit of ping
testing something outside will cause me some aggravation.

That would seem to indicate some sort of icmp blocking but again, I
can not see any evidence of that on the router.