Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Copying settings from Konqueror-3.5 to 4.3
On Saturday 24 October 2009 17:45:53 Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Etaoin Shrdlu (Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:35:48 +0100) On Thursday 22 October 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: I did cp -a .kde3.5 .kde4 and all the settings (not just only konqueror's) were picked up. That did not work for me, all windows had no window title then. But it worked fine for partial applications when I copied just their data over. For konqueror, that would probably be share/config/konquerrorrc and share/apps/konqueror/. Yeah, I've seen mixed outcomes when doing that. I was probably lucky. What I really did was: 1) save the vanilla .kde directory that was created when kde4 first started up, to have a safe rollback in case something goes wrong 2) cp -a the .kde3.5 dir to .kde4, as said 3) check that things were mostly correct, and if not rollback to the saved .kde dir I created in step 1 ~/.kde is a symlink to ~/.kde3.5. So there is nothing to backup or restore. Hmm ... strange. I have the same symlink on a non-kdm desktop, but launching any KDE application or launching startkde from a terminal brings up KDE4 applications and desktop. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is the vala overlay?
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:09:59 -0700, Grant wrote: According to eix, there's a - ebuild in the mpd overlay. Thanks Neil. My layman stuff was split across /usr/local/portage and /usr/portage/local. /usr/local/portage is correct, right? Wherever you set in layman.conf is correct, I use /mnt/portage/layman. -- Neil Bothwick Don't let the computer bugs bite! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On 24 Oct 2009, at 22:51, Dave Jones wrote: ... How presumptuous of you to say so. Has the gentoo-user group become the resource of last-resort? Has gentoo-user become restricted, to be used only when all other avenues of exploration have been exhausted? If that is so, then shame on me, I must have missed that announcement too. I'm really in two minds about posting this, because the above is so aggravating and whiny. Getting on a soap-box and complaining about the other list users (i.e. me and us) seems to imply that it's somehow everyone else's responsibility to fix your problem for you. However, I'm wondering if the original suggestion to search the find archives might have antagonised you less if it had been phrased differently. Mention of the KDE upgrade before that, and the libxcb thing, xorg-1.6, and dbus/hal only seem to have confused matters; hashed to death may be an exaggeration, as I can only (immediately) find the one thread. Perhaps if Alan had asked did you read last week's thread on this subject? you might have gone and found: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/199323 Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS EeePC 1000HA : boot query
On 25 Oct 2009, at 00:30, Philip Webb wrote: ... There's 1 problem : you hold F2 down to get BIOS, then use Esc for a boot menu (you have to go in/out of BIOS first). However, this doesn't work when I first switch the machine on : M$ XP starts regardless I have to reboot from there to get BIOS, the boot menu the USB (I've disabled 'quiet boot' in BIOS, but POST msgs still don't appear). Is this because it takes a few seconds before the USB stick warms up gets recognised (its light blinks) ? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but are you able to / tried changing the boot order? You should be able to put the USB memory card before the internal storage, and you might give the USB bus more time to warm up if you put other items (USB optical drive? network boot?) as the first items. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Alan McKinnon wrote on 25/10/09 01:38: Oh please, grow up, get a life and stop sounding like a spoilt brat. Thank you for this constructive and original comment. Just as useful as your other postings on this thread.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Neil Bothwick wrote on 25/10/09 00:51: I suppose you're also in favour of McDonalds putting Warning, contents may be hot notices of their coffee cups? Off topic?
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is the vala overlay?
Grant wrote: Does anyone know how to get the vala git ebuild (I need vala-0.7.8)? This page indicates the vala-overlay was merged with the gnome overlay, but that doesn't seem to be the case: http://bugs.gentoo.org/179971 - Grant gpo.zugaina.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: I suppose you're also in favour of McDonalds putting Warning, contents may be hot notices of their coffee cups? Off topic? Only when taken out of context. -- Neil Bothwick A. Top posters. Q. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag 24 Oktober 2009 02:02:16 schrieb Dave Jones: Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there. Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. It's neither useless to you nor to anybody else. The question has been answered here several times in the past couple of days and way before that in your very own portage news. So pointing you to the list archives or elogs gives you evrything you need to solve your problem. Bye... Dirk It is not just a matter of pissing off members on this list by asking everything again and again. Most of the people don't ask here, but file directly a bug against the issue. I saw douzens of those the last weeks, concerning the qt thing, shared-mime-info upgrade etc. We have a relatively good system to inform user about things going on and the news items are another big step forward. But if users don't read and use them they get useless. So read and think about what portage tells you!!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 10:43:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: Back on topic I hope, it seems to me that KDE4 has made certain choices which detract from the Gentoo way of being able to run lean and mean should you choose to do so. I am waiting to see if sqlite is going to improve its code to be able to play with akonadi in KDE4. I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Not sure if this is a signal of maturity, or if KDE is becoming as bloated as Gnome was considered to be a couple of years ago (for the most belligerent on this list pls don't take this as an opportunity to restart another ancient flamewar, I'm just making a cursory observation). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
With regards to this:
I believe I'm in the same situation:
QUOTE
amit0 ~ # emerge -auvt world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
x11-libs/qt-core:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[glib,-debug,-qt3support] required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.2', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1:4[qt3support,ssl] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge')
x11-libs/qt-core:4 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'kde-base/automoc-0.9.88', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
x11-libs/qt-gui:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1:4[accessibility,dbus] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge')
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1:4[accessibility,dbus] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1', 'merge')
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.0:4 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'media-sound/phonon-4.4_pre20090520', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug,-qt3support] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
SNIP
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug].
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 (Change USE: +qt3support)
(dependency required by x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.2 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by app-cdr/k3b-1.68.0_alpha3 [ebuild])
(dependency required by world [argument])
/QUOTE
However, the mentioned news item doesn't appear on my 'unread' list:
amit0 ~ # eselect news list
News items:
[1] read2009-04-06 Migration to X.org Server 1.5
[2] read2009-10-02 Migration to X.org Server 1.6 and libxcb 1.4
[3] read2009-07-02 kdeprefix and monolithic ebuilds issues
[4] read2009-04-18 Generation 1 Java Setup Deprecated
[5] read2009-07-12 xorg-x11-7.4 and xorg-server-1.5 kernel support
though it does exist on the filesystem:
[13:35:50] amit0 ~ # head
/usr/portage/metadata/news/2009-09-27-qt_use_changes/2009-09-27-qt_use_changes.en.txt
Title: Qt 4.5.2 default USE flag changes
Author: Alex Alexander wi...@gentoo.org
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-09-27
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2
Would that Display-If-Installed be the reason why it's missing from
the list?
amit0 ~ # qlist -Uv qt
dev-libs/dbus-qt3-old-0.70
dev-libs/poppler-qt3-0.10.7
virtual/poppler-qt3-0.10.7
x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r1 (cups nis opengl)
What I'm trying to say is: if indeed the issue here is the same as
Alan's, then qt_use_changes should show up when I 'eselect news read'.
Amit
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Donnerstag 22 Oktober 2009 23:19:07 schrieb Alan E. Davis:
I've tried alot of things, but I give up. Can someone help me with the
knot of dependencies that has been holding my system in hostage from any
attempt to update world, for weeks now?
Please read your portage news, especially 2009-09-27-qt_use_changes. See
also this weeks thread with subject Confusion.
HTH...
Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
On 10/25/09, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: So 'emerge JAlbum' isn't feasible? In its current state I'd say no, it needs major fixes and polishing. I'll see if I can do something for it later today, but I cannot promise I can fix it properly. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. -- Neil Bothwick A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. \xA0-- Joseph Campbell signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On Sunday 25 October 2009 11:43:59 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: With regards to this: I believe I'm in the same situation: SNIP emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 (Change USE: +qt3support) What is your make.profile linked to? What does euse -i qt3support show? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On 10/25/09, Amit Dor-Shifer ami...@oversi.com wrote: !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 (Change USE: +qt3support) Have you tried doing what it says here, i.e., enabling USE=qt3support in, e.g., make.conf? (Sorry if you've already stated that you have, I'm getting confused by the dozens of recent, near-identical qt-problems emails.) -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 13:05:53 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
Amit Dor-Shifer ha scritto:
With regards to this:
I believe I'm in the same situation:
QUOTE
amit0 ~ # emerge -auvt world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
x11-libs/qt-core:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[glib,-debug,-qt3support] required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.2', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1:4[qt3support,ssl] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge')
x11-libs/qt-core:4 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'kde-base/automoc-0.9.88', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
x11-libs/qt-gui:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1:4[accessibility,dbus] required by
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge')
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1:4[accessibility,dbus] required by
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1', 'merge')
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.0:4 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'media-sound/phonon-4.4_pre20090520', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug,-qt3support] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
SNIP
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug].
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 (Change USE: +qt3support)
(dependency required by x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.2 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by app-cdr/k3b-1.68.0_alpha3 [ebuild])
(dependency required by world [argument])
/QUOTE
However, the mentioned news item doesn't appear on my 'unread' list:
amit0 ~ # eselect news list
News items:
[1] read2009-04-06 Migration to X.org Server 1.5
[2] read2009-10-02 Migration to X.org Server 1.6 and libxcb 1.4
[3] read2009-07-02 kdeprefix and monolithic ebuilds issues
[4] read2009-04-18 Generation 1 Java Setup Deprecated
[5] read2009-07-12 xorg-x11-7.4 and xorg-server-1.5 kernel
support
though it does exist on the filesystem:
[13:35:50] amit0 ~ # head
/usr/portage/metadata/news/2009-09-27-qt_use_changes/2009-09-27-qt_use_changes.en.txt
Title: Qt 4.5.2 default USE flag changes
Author: Alex Alexander wi...@gentoo.org
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-09-27
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2
Would that Display-If-Installed be the reason why it's missing from
the list?
amit0 ~ # qlist -Uv qt
dev-libs/dbus-qt3-old-0.70
dev-libs/poppler-qt3-0.10.7
virtual/poppler-qt3-0.10.7
x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r1 (cups nis opengl)
What I'm trying to say is: if indeed the issue here is the same as
Alan's, then qt_use_changes should show up when I 'eselect news read'.
Amit
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Donnerstag 22 Oktober 2009 23:19:07 schrieb Alan E. Davis:
I've tried alot of things, but I give up. Can someone help me with the
knot of dependencies that has been holding my system in hostage
from any
attempt to update world, for weeks now?
Please read your portage news, especially
2009-09-27-qt_use_changes. See also this weeks thread with subject
Confusion.
HTH...
Dirk
Remember also the dbus USE flag: that solved my problem. :-)
Bye
emilio
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 12:30:32 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 13:05:53 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? I am not sure if I am doing this right ... started kde, went into system settings and switched off neponuke (strigi was already switched off) - but as Dirk says akonadi still starts up when I launch kmail. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
I finally was able to emerge -NuDav world, and revdep-rebuild passed the system as clean. However, when I try emerge -uDav world again, that same message, or some permutation of it, is presented. I have set the flags dbus qt3support qt3 qt4 and so on. So that's not it. I unmerged a number of the involved packages, that looked something like qt-*. I did this just before running the more or less successful emerge -NuDav world. A week ago, I ran emerge -e world. Perhaps I need to do this again. I've read a plethora of postings, such as a sticky post on the Gentoo Forums, and some of these emails, as well as googling, and tried several things. When this all began, about three weeks ago, or longer, I noticed problems with hplip python I have python 3.1 and python 2.6 installed, Some advice was seen to make sure eselect is pointing to 2.6. I also ran python-updater. A new work week is starting, my system is responding normally, I will avoid KDE4, and type this all shakes itself out, over the next week or so. Thank you to those who have helped. Good luck to others. Alan
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
amit0 ~ # eselect profile show Current make.profile symlink: default/linux/amd64/10.0 amit0 ~ # euse -i qt3support global use flags (searching: qt3support) no matching entries found local use flags (searching: qt3support) [-] qt3support (dev-python/PyQt4): Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4 [-] qt3support (x11-libs/qt): Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4 [-] qt3support (x11-libs/qt-core): Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4. Note that this does not mean you can compile pure Qt3 programs with Qt4. [-] qt3support (x11-libs/qt-gui): Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4. Note that this does not mean you can compile pure Qt3 programs with Qt4. [-] qt3support (x11-libs/qt-opengl): Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4 [-] qt3support (x11-libs/qt-sql): Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4 Amit Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 11:43:59 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: With regards to this: I believe I'm in the same situation: SNIP emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 (Change USE: +qt3support) What is your make.profile linked to? What does euse -i qt3support show?
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
Thanks econti ( arttu).
My point was that I don't have the relevant news listed, rather than
the actual solution to the issue.
Amit
econti wrote:
Amit Dor-Shifer ha scritto:
With regards to this:
I believe I'm in the same situation:
QUOTE
amit0 ~ # emerge -auvt world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
x11-libs/qt-core:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[glib,-debug,-qt3support] required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.2', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1:4[qt3support,ssl] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge')
x11-libs/qt-core:4 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'kde-base/automoc-0.9.88', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.1[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
x11-libs/qt-gui:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1:4[accessibility,dbus] required by
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1', 'merge')
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.1:4[accessibility,dbus] required by
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libknotificationitem-4.3.1', 'merge')
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.0:4 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'media-sound/phonon-4.4_pre20090520', 'merge')
(and 2 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug,-qt3support] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
SNIP
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug].
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 (Change USE: +qt3support)
(dependency required by x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.2 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/libkcddb-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by app-cdr/k3b-1.68.0_alpha3 [ebuild])
(dependency required by world [argument])
/QUOTE
However, the mentioned news item doesn't appear on my 'unread' list:
amit0 ~ # eselect news list
News items:
[1] read2009-04-06 Migration to X.org Server 1.5
[2] read2009-10-02 Migration to X.org Server 1.6 and libxcb 1.4
[3] read2009-07-02 kdeprefix and monolithic ebuilds issues
[4] read2009-04-18 Generation 1 Java Setup Deprecated
[5] read2009-07-12 xorg-x11-7.4 and xorg-server-1.5 kernel
support
though it does exist on the filesystem:
[13:35:50] amit0 ~ # head
/usr/portage/metadata/news/2009-09-27-qt_use_changes/2009-09-27-qt_use_changes.en.txt
Title: Qt 4.5.2 default USE flag changes
Author: Alex Alexander wi...@gentoo.org
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-09-27
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2
Would that Display-If-Installed be the reason why it's missing from
the list?
amit0 ~ # qlist -Uv qt
dev-libs/dbus-qt3-old-0.70
dev-libs/poppler-qt3-0.10.7
virtual/poppler-qt3-0.10.7
x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r1 (cups nis opengl)
What I'm trying to say is: if indeed the issue here is the same as
Alan's, then qt_use_changes should show up when I 'eselect news read'.
Amit
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Donnerstag 22 Oktober 2009 23:19:07 schrieb Alan E. Davis:
I've tried alot of things, but I give up. Can someone help me with
the
knot of dependencies that has been holding my system in hostage
from any
attempt to update world, for weeks now?
Please read your portage news, especially
2009-09-27-qt_use_changes. See also this weeks thread with subject
Confusion.
HTH...
Dirk
Remember also the dbus USE flag: that solved my problem. :-)
Bye
emilio
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On Sunday 25 October 2009 14:49:29 Alan E. Davis wrote: I finally was able to emerge -NuDav world, and revdep-rebuild passed the system as clean. However, when I try emerge -uDav world again, that same message, or some permutation of it, is presented. I have set the flags dbus qt3support qt3 qt4 and so on. So that's not it. I unmerged a number of the involved packages, that looked something like qt-*. I did this just before running the more or less successful emerge -NuDav world. A week ago, I ran emerge -e world. Perhaps I need to do this again. I've read a plethora of postings, such as a sticky post on the Gentoo Forums, and some of these emails, as well as googling, and tried several things. When this all began, about three weeks ago, or longer, I noticed problems with hplip python I have python 3.1 and python 2.6 installed, Some advice was seen to make sure eselect is pointing to 2.6. I also ran python-updater. A new work week is starting, my system is responding normally, I will avoid KDE4, and type this all shakes itself out, over the next week or so. Thank you to those who have helped. Good luck to others. Did you try the most straightforward (albeit lengthy) approach: unmerge all of Qt emerge world and let portage figure out what it wants to put back There is seldom a good reason to have Qt packages in world (dev packages excepted) and recent changes in the ebuild have caused lots of mutual blockers. When I first went through this, I saw that almost all qt-* packages would be rebuilt on my machines. It seemed easier to restart with a clean slate. I got a blocker notice which said I had to enable various flags, which I did and the merge completed flawlessly. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
Thank you Mr. MacKinnon: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Did you try the most straightforward (albeit lengthy) approach: unmerge all of Qt emerge world and let portage figure out what it wants to put back How can I do this? There is seldom a good reason to have Qt packages in world (dev packages excepted) and recent changes in the ebuild have caused lots of mutual blockers. When I first went through this, I saw that almost all qt-* packages would be rebuilt on my machines. It seemed easier to restart with a clean slate. I got a blocker notice which said I had to enable various flags, which I did and the merge completed flawlessly. I will try to uninstall all qt-* packages. I'd like to uninstall KDE4 also. Alan Davis
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On Sunday 25 October 2009 12:53:33 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: amit0 ~ # eselect profile show Current make.profile symlink: default/linux/amd64/10.0 You may want to change this to .../amd64/10.0/desktop or server depending on what your machine is. Then I would think that the flags for qt3support would be enabled by default. However, I am running x86 over here so others may be able to confirm. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
Yes. This is one of the issues I ran into. Done. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 12:53:33 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: amit0 ~ # eselect profile show Current make.profile symlink: default/linux/amd64/10.0 You may want to change this to .../amd64/10.0/desktop or server depending on what your machine is. Then I would think that the flags for qt3support would be enabled by default. However, I am running x86 over here so others may be able to confirm. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:08:12 Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 10:43:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: Back on topic I hope, it seems to me that KDE4 has made certain choices which detract from the Gentoo way of being able to run lean and mean should you choose to do so. I am waiting to see if sqlite is going to improve its code to be able to play with akonadi in KDE4. I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. I doubt that will ever happen. Akonadi is designed with multi-user usage in mind, sqlite is built with embedded single-user usage in mind. Any attempt to use sqlite in Akondai will result in race-condition and blocker issues which can only be resolved by running akonadi in some single-user mode, or writing a proxy-style front end to sqlite. Either way it seems like way too much effort for way too little return. Not sure if this is a signal of maturity, or if KDE is becoming as bloated as Gnome was considered to be a couple of years ago (for the most belligerent on this list pls don't take this as an opportunity to restart another ancient flamewar, I'm just making a cursory observation). maturity and bloat are often conflated and confused. The direction that the KDE-4 devs want to go is a completely integrated desktop where everything is aware of everything else, and data is considered to be just that - simply data. Every app knows what to do with any data, so you loose the distinction between email from kmail and chat history from kopete - the DE just knows what to do with it and presents it in some sane fashion. Well that's the goal, perhaps not the current reality. Point being, this requires huge backing libs and powerful processors. And that is what the average user possesses. It isn't bloat - it's what is needed to fulfil the stated goal. This doesn't suit everyone, so accusations of bloat tend to bubble up :-) For those people, there are other DEs and WMs that suit their purpose. The *box packages for instance - those give you a lean mean desktop with the absolute minimum code and nothing more. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. -- Neil Bothwick Q: How many accountants does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: What kind of answer did you have in mind? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS EeePC 1000HA : boot query
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 20:30, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I've got my new toy to boot from USB with SystemRescue 1.3.1 , which comes up beautifully with Gentoo using 'Altker32' (the 'default' kernel boots into some kind of emergency mode); despite what the intro help says, the desktop manager is Xfce, which is started via 'wizard' offers basic useful apps, eg Terminal Emelfm Firefox Geany Gparted . There's 1 problem : you hold F2 down to get BIOS, then use Esc for a boot menu (you have to go in/out of BIOS first). However, this doesn't work when I first switch the machine on : M$ XP starts regardless I have to reboot from there to get BIOS, the boot menu the USB (I've disabled 'quiet boot' in BIOS, but POST msgs still don't appear). Is this because it takes a few seconds before the USB stick warms up gets recognised (its light blinks) ? This is important: if that's correct, I can wipe out XP the machine will still recognise the USB stick boot, but if the problem is something else (I don't know what it might be), I fear risking an unbootable box without even the M$ option remaining. Can anyone reassure me ? I have a couple of EEEs and my brother have the same model you have. All three work the same way, you hold ESC while booting (you can just keep it pressed after you power it on) and a boot menu comes. This usually list every device (including USB devices connected). Sometimes you have to try a different USB port or even just plug out and in again and try again, but still, no need to go into windows. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On Sunday 25 October 2009 15:11:36 Alan E. Davis wrote: Thank you Mr. MacKinnon: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Did you try the most straightforward (albeit lengthy) approach: unmerge all of Qt emerge world and let portage figure out what it wants to put back How can I do this? Simplest way I can think of: eix qt- Scroll up and down and note which ones are installed, there's only 20 in total and the colourized output makes it easy to spot the installed ones. Unmerge those. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
To follow up, after removing qt (by mistake), and all the qt-* packages I
could find, this is what I found when running emerge -uDav world
x11-libs/qt-gui:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.3-r1', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
x11-libs/qt-sql:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.3', 'merge') conflicts with
=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql] required by ('installed', '/',
'app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1', 'nomerge')
x11-libs/qt-core:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.3-r1', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2', 'merge')
x11-libs/qt-dbus:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.3', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge')
media-libs/x264:0
('ebuild', '/', 'media-libs/x264-0.0.20090923', 'merge') conflicts with
media-libs/x264-0.0.20090908 required by ('installed', '/',
'media-video/avidemux-2.5.1-r2', 'nomerge')
!!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied
dependencies
!!! triggered by backtracking:
x11-libs/qt-assistant:4
x11-libs/qt-test:4
x11-libs/qt-svg:4
x11-libs/qt-script:4
x11-libs/qt-webkit:4
x11-libs/qt-opengl:4
Not sure where to go with this.
When I ran emerge world the re-installation of more than 250 packages was
begun.
Alan
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Mr. MacKinnon:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Did you try the most straightforward (albeit lengthy) approach:
unmerge all of Qt
emerge world and let portage figure out what it wants to put back
How can I do this?
There is seldom a good reason to have Qt packages in world (dev packages
excepted) and recent changes in the ebuild have caused lots of mutual
blockers. When I first went through this, I saw that almost all qt-*
packages
would be rebuilt on my machines. It seemed easier to restart with a clean
slate. I got a blocker notice which said I had to enable various flags,
which
I did and the merge completed flawlessly.
I will try to uninstall all qt-* packages. I'd like to uninstall KDE4
also.
Alan Davis
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
Thank you Alan. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Simplest way I can think of: eix qt- Scroll up and down and note which ones are installed, there's only 20 in total and the colourized output makes it easy to spot the installed ones. Unmerge those. That's what I did, then got back to the same message. Even after unmerging avidemux. Alan Davis
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. akonadi is an unconditional dep of kdepim. It's about storing PIM data, not desktop searching (strigi/nepomuk). Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On Sunday 25 October 2009 15:26:19 Alan E. Davis wrote:
To follow up, after removing qt (by mistake), and all the qt-* packages I
could find, this is what I found when running emerge -uDav world
x11-libs/qt-gui:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.3-r1', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
Something wants qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1
x11-libs/qt-sql:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.3', 'merge') conflicts with
=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql] required by ('installed', '/',
'app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1', 'nomerge')
akonadi-server requires qt-sql with USE=mysql
x11-libs/qt-core:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.3-r1', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2', 'merge')
x11-libs/qt-dbus:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.3', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge')
media-libs/x264:0
('ebuild', '/', 'media-libs/x264-0.0.20090923', 'merge') conflicts with
media-libs/x264-0.0.20090908 required by ('installed', '/',
'media-video/avidemux-2.5.1-r2', 'nomerge')
We need to establish why qt-4.5.2 packages are being pulled in instead of
4.5.3
Please run emerge -avuNDt world and post that (snipping irrelevant bits as
appropriate).
You might have left a qt-*-4.5.2 package installed by mistake, or some other
package is hard-coded to require a qt-4.5.2 version.
The solution for the first is to uninstall the package you missed, the
solution for the second is to unmerge the offending package and remerge it
(but recent portage should be taking care of that all by itself). Either way
emerge -t will provide clues.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
I forgot to mention:
After rebuilding all of qt with this amount of changes, be prepared to rebuild
all of KDE-4 as well. Not doing this often results in weird behavviour that is
impossible to track down, hence the large elog warning in all the qt-*
ebuilds.
On Sunday 25 October 2009 15:36:05 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sunday 25 October 2009 15:26:19 Alan E. Davis wrote:
To follow up, after removing qt (by mistake), and all the qt-* packages
I could find, this is what I found when running emerge -uDav world
x11-libs/qt-gui:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.3-r1', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1', 'merge')
Something wants qt-webkit-4.5.2-r1
x11-libs/qt-sql:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.3', 'merge') conflicts with
=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql] required by ('installed', '/',
'app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1', 'nomerge')
akonadi-server requires qt-sql with USE=mysql
x11-libs/qt-core:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.3-r1', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild',
'/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2', 'merge')
x11-libs/qt-dbus:4
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.3', 'merge') conflicts with
~x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.2[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.2-r2', 'merge')
media-libs/x264:0
('ebuild', '/', 'media-libs/x264-0.0.20090923', 'merge') conflicts with
media-libs/x264-0.0.20090908 required by ('installed', '/',
'media-video/avidemux-2.5.1-r2', 'nomerge')
We need to establish why qt-4.5.2 packages are being pulled in instead of
4.5.3
Please run emerge -avuNDt world and post that (snipping irrelevant bits as
appropriate).
You might have left a qt-*-4.5.2 package installed by mistake, or some
other package is hard-coded to require a qt-4.5.2 version.
The solution for the first is to uninstall the package you missed, the
solution for the second is to unmerge the offending package and remerge it
(but recent portage should be taking care of that all by itself). Either
way emerge -t will provide clues.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
I think that if default/linux/amd64/10.0 is a valid profile, it's reasonable to expect that the relevant news item be listed on eselect. Amit Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 12:53:33 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: amit0 ~ # eselect profile show Current make.profile symlink: default/linux/amd64/10.0 You may want to change this to .../amd64/10.0/desktop or server depending on what your machine is. Then I would think that the flags for qt3support would be enabled by default. However, I am running x86 over here so others may be able to confirm.
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is the vala overlay?
Does anyone know how to get the vala git ebuild (I need vala-0.7.8)? This page indicates the vala-overlay was merged with the gnome overlay, but that doesn't seem to be the case: http://bugs.gentoo.org/179971 - Grant gpo.zugaina.org Very nice, thank you. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
So 'emerge JAlbum' isn't feasible? In its current state I'd say no, it needs major fixes and polishing. I'll see if I can do something for it later today, but I cannot promise I can fix it properly. Thank you for even considering it. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
please show us the /usr/bin/jalbum I'm not sure what you mean. That file doesn't exist in the installation. - Grant
[gentoo-user] ksoftirqd near 100% CPU during scp/rsync
Does anyone else see a ksoftirqd process at or near 100% during very long scp or rsync operations? Google shows numerous reports of this, but no solutions or useful explanations. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
So 'emerge JAlbum' isn't feasible? In its current state I'd say no, it needs major fixes and polishing. I'll see if I can do something for it later today, but I cannot promise I can fix it properly. -- Arttu V. Another option is to use the start script supplied in the bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128356 http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=97807 but I'm not sure how to get it to install somewhere useful. Just putting it in the files dir, I don't think anything happens with it. Any pointers on that? - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED]
On 10/24/2009 06:52 PM, walt wrote: ... Have any of you gnomes out there got the latest Volume Control applet to display all of the various controls provided by your sound card? By trial-and-error I tracked it down to the pulseaudio USE flag. Merging gnome-media with that flag breaks gnome-volume-control most horribly IMO, but OTOH I don't understand pulseaudio, so maybe I'm wrong. Any gnomes out there who understand this interaction? Anyone who can reproduce this 'bug'? Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS EeePC 1000HA : boot query
091025 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 00:30:48 Philip Webb wrote: There's 1 problem : you hold F2 down to get BIOS, then use Esc for a boot menu (you have to go in/out of BIOS first). However, this doesn't work when I first switch the machine on : M$ XP starts regardless I have to reboot from there to get BIOS, the boot menu the USB (I've disabled 'quiet boot' in BIOS, but POST msgs still don't appear). Is this because it takes a few seconds before the USB stick warms up gets recognised (its light blinks) ? There's an accelerated-boot option in the BIOS. You have to switch that off to be able to boot a USB stick Took me days to find that one :-( Thanks ! -- it would have taken me days too, if you hadn't told me ! Having disabled 'boot booster' in BIOS, it works straight after power-on : F2 gets the BIOS menus or Esc gets the boot menu with choice of OS. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On Sunday 25 October 2009 14:20:00 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: I think that if default/linux/amd64/10.0 is a valid profile, it's reasonable to expect that the relevant news item be listed on eselect. It takes 1 minute to change it and try emerge -upDv world before you change it back if you so prefer. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
Grant wrote: please show us the /usr/bin/jalbum I'm not sure what you mean. That file doesn't exist in the installation. - Grant That'S what should be created with java-pkg_dolauncher jalbum \ --jar JAlbum.jar \ --java_args -Xmx400M signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:23:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Simplest way I can think of: eix qt- Scroll up and down and note which ones are installed, there's only 20 in total and the colourized output makes it easy to spot the installed ones. Unmerge those. To see what's installed: qlist -I qt- To remove them: emerge -Ca $(qlist -IC qt-) -- Neil Bothwick As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED YET AGAIN]
On 10/25/2009 08:19 AM, walt wrote: Merging gnome-media with the pulseaudio USE flag breaks gnome-volume-control most horribly IMO, but OTOH I don't understand pulseaudio, so maybe I'm wrong. I found the gnome 2.26 upgrade guide, which points to the pulseaudio documentation. It seems that pulseaudio has its own mixer control (not included in gentoo's pulseaudio package) so maybe it does make sense to remove that function from gnome's volume control applet. However, the most important thing I learned is that I have no use whatever for pulseaudio -- and I doubt that many other people do, either. It seems to be a massively complex solution hunting for a problem. How many of us want/need to play two or more soundtracks at the same time? If I'm wrong about this, please correct me. I'd like to know why all those devs spent so much energy building it. Thanks.
[gentoo-user] portage sends faulty emails
I've just finished a massive amount of emerging, and a funny thing has happened -- portage has started to send me messages. This seems like a good idea, but they are all bouncing. I'm not sure where it's happening, but localhost is being glued onto the real sender domain to form localhost.kosmanor.com -- which does not exist -- causing a bounce from my email provider. It's better than nothing, because the headers tell me which package is at issue, and I can look up the elog entry. But it could be better. Anybody have a fix? -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
On 10/25/09, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Another option is to use the start script supplied in the bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128356 http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=97807 but I'm not sure how to get it to install somewhere useful. Just putting it in the files dir, I don't think anything happens with it. Any pointers on that? I added an alternate ebuild to the bug. It doesn't need external runner scripts. With it JAlbum-.8.5.1 seems to start-up nicely even on amd64, asks for some kind of login (I canceled out from that screen), and then allows one to ... well, design album covers, I guess. :) That's how far I tried it. Now it starts up, but I still don't know if all the dependencies got properly laid out. And reading into the ebuild should reveal many pieces still needing work. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] portage sends faulty emails
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:46:19 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: This seems like a good idea, but they are all bouncing. I'm not sure where it's happening, but localhost is being glued onto the real sender domain to form localhost.kosmanor.com -- which does not exist -- causing a bounce from my email provider. Are you using ssmtp to send them? If so, you need to set hostname in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. -- Neil Bothwick I need your clothes, your boots, and your tagline! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
Another option is to use the start script supplied in the bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128356 http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=97807 but I'm not sure how to get it to install somewhere useful. Just putting it in the files dir, I don't think anything happens with it. Any pointers on that? I added an alternate ebuild to the bug. It doesn't need external runner scripts. With it JAlbum-.8.5.1 seems to start-up nicely even on amd64, asks for some kind of login (I canceled out from that screen), and then allows one to ... well, design album covers, I guess. :) That's how far I tried it. Now it starts up, but I still don't know if all the dependencies got properly laid out. And reading into the ebuild should reveal many pieces still needing work. -- Arttu V. Thank you very much Arttu. It works great! JAlbum is a photo management app BTW. It's really slick. So all the new dependencies were required to create /usr/bin/jalbum? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:35:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. akonadi is an unconditional dep of kdepim. It's about storing PIM data, not desktop searching (strigi/nepomuk). Bye... Dirk I set -semantic-desktop in my /etc/make.conf. I unmerged akonadi. Then remerged: kde-base/kdelibs kde-base/gwenview kde-base/kget kde-base/dolphin kde-base/kmail kde-base/kdebase-meta kde-base/kdeaddons-meta These were all the packages that contained a semantic-desktop USE flag. Now I get this: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - semantic-desktop 0 kB Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED YET AGAIN]
walt wrote: On 10/25/2009 08:19 AM, walt wrote: Merging gnome-media with the pulseaudio USE flag breaks gnome-volume-control most horribly IMO, but OTOH I don't understand pulseaudio, so maybe I'm wrong. I found the gnome 2.26 upgrade guide, which points to the pulseaudio documentation. It seems that pulseaudio has its own mixer control (not included in gentoo's pulseaudio package) so maybe it does make sense to remove that function from gnome's volume control applet. However, the most important thing I learned is that I have no use whatever for pulseaudio -- and I doubt that many other people do, either. It seems to be a massively complex solution hunting for a problem. How many of us want/need to play two or more soundtracks at the same time? If I'm wrong about this, please correct me. I'd like to know why all those devs spent so much energy building it. Thanks. It coming from upstream (red hat-fedora) and Lennart Poettering You can read some of the reasoning here; http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePulseaudio The bottom line is we will need to get use to it at some point not sure when that will be. I did come up with a little guide; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789181.html I have been using it for a while and for the most part it has been fine. -david
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:19:11 +, Mick wrote: Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? So it's needed by KMail, not KDE in general (I don't use KMail). -- Neil Bothwick There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary notation and those who don't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 22:19:11 Mick wrote: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - semantic-desktop 0 kB Yes, you can't avoid having at least akonadi-server merged with kmail, it's a hard dep on kdepimlibs: $ equery depends akonadi-server * Searching for akonadi-server ... kde-base/akonadi-4.3.2 (=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1) kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 (=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.0) Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? No, at least mine doesn't here. I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] X86 stable emerged a bunch of KDE 4 things. How to use them?
Having just emerged what looked like a couple of hundred things, many of them KDE-4 related, I'm surprised that on reboot I'm still running KDE 3.5. Moreover, there's only /usr/kde/3.5, no 4*. The only change I noticed was in the background of the login dialog. One guess is that the flood of newly-stable things in incomplete. But I have not been watching the news, so I don't know. Should I just wait, or is there something I should be doing? ++ kevin
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED YET AGAIN]
=== On Sun, 10/25, walt wrote: === If I'm wrong about this, please correct me. I'd like to know why all those devs spent so much energy building it. === Me too. ;-) I agree with you. It has done nothing but cause problems for me also. I don't think it provides any functionality that ALSA, or an ALSA plugin and configuration, can not also do. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] X86 stable emerged a bunch of KDE 4 things. How to use them?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:56:24 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Having just emerged what looked like a couple of hundred things, many of them KDE-4 related, I'm surprised that on reboot I'm still running KDE 3.5. You need to select KDE4 at the login screen. Moreover, there's only /usr/kde/3.5, no 4*. The only change I noticed was in the background of the login dialog. KDE4 doesn't install into /usr/kde/$SLOT but into /usr. -- Neil Bothwick Avoid temporary variables and strange women. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen this? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
On Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009, Grant wrote: After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen this? - Grant no, but I suspect that lm_sensors is just reporting more correctly with the newer kernel.
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen this? - Grant no, but I suspect that lm_sensors is just reporting more correctly with the newer kernel. I considered that, but the reported temps don't seem to rise and fall with CPU activity like they did before. I think there's a bug of some sort here. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] X86 stable emerged a bunch of KDE 4 things. How to use them?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 21:16:37 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:56:24 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Having just emerged what looked like a couple of hundred things, many of them KDE-4 related, I'm surprised that on reboot I'm still running KDE 3.5. You need to select KDE4 at the login screen. Moreover, there's only /usr/kde/3.5, no 4*. The only change I noticed was in the background of the login dialog. KDE4 doesn't install into /usr/kde/$SLOT but into /usr. /usr/bin/startkde has been changed to start KDE4 now. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
Another option is to use the start script supplied in the bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128356 http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=97807 but I'm not sure how to get it to install somewhere useful. Just putting it in the files dir, I don't think anything happens with it. Any pointers on that? I added an alternate ebuild to the bug. It doesn't need external runner scripts. With it JAlbum-.8.5.1 seems to start-up nicely even on amd64, asks for some kind of login (I canceled out from that screen), and then allows one to ... well, design album covers, I guess. :) That's how far I tried it. Now it starts up, but I still don't know if all the dependencies got properly laid out. And reading into the ebuild should reveal many pieces still needing work. -- Arttu V. Thank you very much Arttu. It works great! JAlbum is a photo management app BTW. It's really slick. So all the new dependencies were required to create /usr/bin/jalbum? - Grant I'm sorry Arttu, I spoke too soon. I only did a cursory check before. The program doesn't seem to work at all when installed via the new ebuild. The only way I can get the program to run properly is to install via the old ebuild, 'chmod 755 /usr/lib/JAlbum/startjalbum.sh', 'cd /usr/lib/JAlbum', and './startjalbum.sh'. I'd like the ebuild to leave the user with a command that can be put into a simple launcher though. Should I have the ebuild chmod, cp, and alter the contents of the .sh script to provide the full path of JAlbum.jar so cd isn't necessary? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] portage sends faulty emails
On Sunday 25 October 2009 18:13:19 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:46:19 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: This seems like a good idea, but they are all bouncing. I'm not sure where it's happening, but localhost is being glued onto the real sender domain to form localhost.kosmanor.com -- which does not exist -- causing a bounce from my email provider. Are you using ssmtp to send them? If so, you need to set hostname in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. Have a look at: http://www.destr0yr.com/article.php/Gmail_and_sSMTP to get an idea how to set up yours. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] portage sends faulty emails
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:46:19 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: This seems like a good idea, but they are all bouncing. I'm not sure where it's happening, but localhost is being glued onto the real sender domain to form localhost.kosmanor.com -- which does not exist -- causing a bounce from my email provider. Are you using ssmtp to send them? If so, you need to set hostname in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. -- Neil Bothwick I need your clothes, your boots, and your tagline! I have no idea how they are being sent. This just started autonomously. I don't even know off hand what ssmtp is. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] portage sends faulty emails
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 18:13:19 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:46:19 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: This seems like a good idea, but they are all bouncing. I'm not sure where it's happening, but localhost is being glued onto the real sender domain to form localhost.kosmanor.com -- which does not exist -- causing a bounce from my email provider. Are you using ssmtp to send them? If so, you need to set hostname in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. Have a look at: http://www.destr0yr.com/article.php/Gmail_and_sSMTP to get an idea how to set up yours. -- Regards, Mick I use gmail for mailing lists that I subscribe to. Their archiving is a perfect feature for me. However, I do not wish to use it for anything else. The email headers do not indicate that the offending traffic went through google, but prodigy.net does appear. I do have a postfix instance running, but the only thing I expect it to do is a bit of spam filtering on the odd email that comes to me directly, and then send it to my ISP. The traffic seems to originate on my system, is sent (SMTP?) to my ISP (because of the TO: address), and then the story gets a bit muddy, because I'm not sure which entity objects to the sender address. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS EeePC 1000HA : boot query
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:22:21 Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a couple of EEEs and my brother have the same model you have. All three work the same way, you hold ESC while booting (you can just keep it pressed after you power it on) and a boot menu comes. That's interesting. I didn't try that because, traditionally, holding a key down results in a stuck-key error message, so it didn't even occur to me. You learn something new every day - if you're not careful! -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild help: java main class?
Another option is to use the start script supplied in the bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128356 http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=97807 but I'm not sure how to get it to install somewhere useful. Just putting it in the files dir, I don't think anything happens with it. Any pointers on that? I added an alternate ebuild to the bug. It doesn't need external runner scripts. With it JAlbum-.8.5.1 seems to start-up nicely even on amd64, asks for some kind of login (I canceled out from that screen), and then allows one to ... well, design album covers, I guess. :) That's how far I tried it. Now it starts up, but I still don't know if all the dependencies got properly laid out. And reading into the ebuild should reveal many pieces still needing work. -- Arttu V. Thank you very much Arttu. It works great! JAlbum is a photo management app BTW. It's really slick. So all the new dependencies were required to create /usr/bin/jalbum? - Grant I'm sorry Arttu, I spoke too soon. I only did a cursory check before. The program doesn't seem to work at all when installed via the new ebuild. The only way I can get the program to run properly is to install via the old ebuild, 'chmod 755 /usr/lib/JAlbum/startjalbum.sh', 'cd /usr/lib/JAlbum', and './startjalbum.sh'. I'd like the ebuild to leave the user with a command that can be put into a simple launcher though. Should I have the ebuild chmod, cp, and alter the contents of the .sh script to provide the full path of JAlbum.jar so cd isn't necessary? - Grant I realized that I can issue 'java -Xmx400M -jar /usr/lib/JAlbum/JAlbum.jar' to launch the program. I've attached a new ebuild to the bug that is pretty simple and includes some stuff from your ebuild. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] portage sends faulty emails
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:58:53 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Are you using ssmtp to send them? If so, you need to set hostname in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. I have no idea how they are being sent. This just started autonomously. I don't even know off hand what ssmtp is. What does emerge --info -v | grep ELOG show. ssmtp is a minimal mail relay server, installed as part of @system. -- Neil Bothwick The people who are wrapped up in themselves are overdressed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:35:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. akonadi is an unconditional dep of kdepim. It's about storing PIM data, not desktop searching (strigi/nepomuk). Bye... Dirk I set -semantic-desktop in my /etc/make.conf. I unmerged akonadi. Then remerged: kde-base/kdelibs kde-base/gwenview kde-base/kget kde-base/dolphin kde-base/kmail kde-base/kdebase-meta kde-base/kdeaddons-meta These were all the packages that contained a semantic-desktop USE flag. Now I get this: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - semantic-desktop 0 kB Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? Well, I put -semantic-desktop in my USE line and ran emerge -uvDN world. It recompiled several things and told me it had some @preserved-rebuild packages to build. So, I ran that and got this little message: r...@smoker / # emerge @preserved-rebuild -a These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2:4.3[semantic-desktop,-kdeprefix]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2-r3 (Change USE: +semantic-desktop) (dependency required by kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.2 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument]) r...@smoker / # So I guess we can't really have the USE flag disabled either. Neato ! sarcasm there Now to change my USE line back again and run emerge -uvDN world. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On 10/25/2009 8:10 PM, Dale wrote: Well, I put -semantic-desktop in my USE line and ran emerge -uvDN world. It recompiled several things and told me it had some @preserved-rebuild packages to build. So, I ran that and got this little message: r...@smoker / # emerge @preserved-rebuild -a These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2:4.3[semantic-desktop,-kdeprefix]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2-r3 (Change USE: +semantic-desktop) (dependency required by kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.2 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument]) The semantic desktop is the whole point of nepomuk. If you don't want all the semantic desktop KDE stuff, then you don't want nepomuk either. Try removing it instead of rebuilding it. --Mike
[gentoo-user] strange dmesg output
Hi group, Still sorting out the glitches in the new 2.6.30-r7 kernel. eg the strange output of dmesg: ... age: 1e 00 00 00 01 00 usb-storage: Bulk Command S 0x43425355 T 0x8 L 0 F 0 Trg 0 LUN 0 CL 6 usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_buf: xfer 31 bytes usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 31/31 usb-storage: -- transfer complete usb-storage: Bulk command transfer result=0 usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW... usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_buf: xfer 13 bytes usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 13/13 usb-storage: -- transfer complete usb-storage: Bulk status result = 0 usb-storage: Bulk Status S 0x53425355 T 0x8 R 0 Stat 0x1 usb-storage: -- transport indicates command failure usb-storage: Issuing auto-REQUEST_SENSE usb-storage: Bulk Command S 0x43425355 T 0x9 L 18 F 128 Trg 0 LUN 0 CL 6 usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_buf: xfer 31 bytes usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 31/31 usb-storage: -- transfer complete usb-storage: Bulk command transfer result=0 usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_sglist: xfer 18 bytes, 1 entries usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 18/18 usb-storage: -- transfer complete usb-storage: Bulk data transfer result 0x0 usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW... ... and so on, for 2739 lines. Nothing about other drives, file sytems, hardware, busses etc. When I plug in a usb key, for instance, dmesg doesn't even notice although the log console(F12) makes a note of the device. The earlier kernel acts normally. Did I leave something out of the kernel? I can't think what. Maxim
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel panic -- finding proper config diff
Could be over-zealous whittling. Why not use the Live DVD .config unchanged? I assumed there was no need for a 1001 modules for hardware i don't have. But there's still some things that need sorting, so it may come to that.
Re: [gentoo-user] strange dmesg output
=== On Sun, 10/25, Maxim Wexler wrote: === Did I leave something out of the kernel? I can't think what. === It looks like you have USB debug turned on. I remember there was a kernel that was released that had that. Normally it's off, but you should turn it off if it's on. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
