Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
On Monday 30 November 2009 03:21:08 daid kahl wrote: Forgive the top-post, but I would like to say I was very impressed by the analysis of Joerg Schilling. Given the issue appears resolved, I can't help myself: When I bought this notebook in january and first installed gentoo, cdrecord used to work. Then at some point ago (probably after some update) it has stopped working with the behaviour I have described above. This is every single story of Gentoo and Linux in amazing brevity. /s/Gentoo and Linux/software/ There you go. Fixed that for you. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Monday 30 November 2009 05:40:31 Maxim Wexler wrote: Right. wrong Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable fsck at boot. There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2 and requires being checked at every boot. Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to check it every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot times sky-high.. Before that it wouldn't boot at all. That would appear to be a completely separate issue. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Monday 30 November 2009 02:55:09 daid kahl wrote: [about LastPass] I have an alarm system in my head. It's called the Security by bullshit baffles brains Alert. It's ringing right now ;-) Hahahaha. Just make your doorknob turn the wrong way and you don't have to lock it. Or you could remap all your system filestructure, remove all PATHS and That gives me an idea. I'm going to remove the semantic layer from all my filesystems and reference my files directly by inode number. That should confuse the buggers :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:40:31 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable fsck at boot. There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2 and requires being checked at every boot. Before that it wouldn't boot at all. If the filesystem was cleanly unmounted, fsck does nothing, except on every 30th mount (unless you have changed to with e2fstune). The filesystem should mount whether you run fsck or not. On the other hand, having a battery run out during a fsck operation could be damaging, so the idea of skipping this check when on battery power is a good one. -- Neil Bothwick Do hungry crows have ravenous appetites? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Monday 30 November 2009 02:55:09 daid kahl wrote: [about LastPass] I have an alarm system in my head. It's called the Security by bullshit baffles brains Alert. It's ringing right now ;-) Hahahaha. Just make your doorknob turn the wrong way and you don't have to lock it. Or you could remap all your system filestructure, remove all PATHS and That gives me an idea. I'm going to remove the semantic layer from all my filesystems and reference my files directly by inode number. That should confuse the buggers :-) Naw, I like this one as far as the house goes. Buy four dead bolts and only lock two of them. You may have to think on that one for a minute. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
On 11/29/2009 02:19 PM, daid kahl wrote: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.4:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.17/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.17/jre/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.17/jre/javaws:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin:/home/daid/scripts:/sbin:/usr/non-portage:/home/daid/.gentoo/java-config-2/current-user-vm/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/warlock2:/usr/local/sbin VMHANDLE=sun-jdk-1.4 Two things popped out at me in the emerge --info I hadn't considered, which is that my machine for some reason believes it's still on sun-jdk-1.4 even though that's not installed (it was installed some time ago). So I'm considering those now and how to get my system clean of sun-jdk-1.4. But the vm should be set correctly... Check /etc/env.d and /etc/conf.d and /etc/java-config* for stale files from early versions. Also check in /usr/share/anything-java-related. Oh, and /usr/lib/jvm also.
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work. Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs vs not booting at all, dammit! On 11/30/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 30 November 2009 05:40:31 Maxim Wexler wrote: Right. wrong Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable fsck at boot. There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2 and requires being checked at every boot. Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to check it every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot times sky-high.. Before that it wouldn't boot at all. That would appear to be a completely separate issue. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
I've been getting the same silly OpenOffice compile error for a couple weeks now. Nothing I can search up or think of seems to do the trick. Here's the end of the output during compile: 1 module(s): unoxml need(s) to be rebuilt I had hoped to never ever see this error again, looks like my hopes were dashed. Long answer: The reason for the failure is in the build log, but it is never just above the error message. It is often many 1000s of lines higher. bugs.gentoo.org is infested with bug reports of this kind of thing, to get any meaningful answer you *MUST* follow the instructions in the ebuild and build with MAKEOPTS=-j1, also switch off distcc and cachecc as well. Using the ebuild instructions for building, the compile still fails, but the error above the fail is very slightly more useful: Entering /var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-3.1.1/work/ooo/build/ooo310-m19/unoxml/source/rdf 217 Compiling: unoxml/unxlngi6/misc/unordf_dflt_version.c 218 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CBlankNode.cxx 219 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CURI.cxx 220 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CLiteral.cxx 221 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_repository.cxx 222 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_services.cxx 223 Making:libunordfli.so 224 : ERROR: ../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/check_libunordfli.so: undefined symbol: librdf_free_storage 225 dmake: Error code 1, while making '../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/libunordfli.so' 226 227 ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-3.1.1/work/ooo/build/ooo310-m19/unoxml/source/rdf 228 rmdir /tmp/30017 229 make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1 So we at least can say that redland libraries are somehow related to the problem at hand. The only similar error I could find on google (http://www.mail-archive.com/allb...@openoffice.org/msg391683.html) appears independent of OO and implicates libcrypto as a problem. With this information in mind, I re-emerged redland and openssl (libcrypto belongs to openssl). I was digging through the emerge logs, and I have successful builds of OO-3.0.0 from a couple months ago. The thing that is very interesting is that code that is failing in 3.1.1 (librdf_*.cxx) was never even compiled in 3.0.0! The objects are there, the C++ codes are patched, but they are never compiled according to the emerge log. Having read the similar error from redland, I also notice something else suspicious: Log from 3.0.0 successful build: checking which redland library to use... internal Log from 3.1.1 failed build: checking which redland library to use... external If you didn't read the link on the only similar bug I googled, here is an excerpt: Building (with o3-build) fails because redland links agains the system's version of libcrypt. It later fails in unoxml because the linked-in lib is not found anymore: The error itself is quite similar, although the undefined reference itself is different (excerpt from above link): Checking DLL ../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/check_libunordfli.so ...: ERROR: libcrypto.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory dmake: Error code 1, while making ´../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/libunordfli.so´ So why is OO using the external (system) redland libraries which are later not found, and how can I force it to use the internal redland libraries? (Please note: for this discussion, external library is the same as system library) There's no use flag, but the openoffice ebuild suggests: # Upstream this echo --with-system-redland ${CONFFILE} I should note that in the 3.0.0 and 3.0.1 ebuilds (I have them on backup -- they were removed from portage) redland is not a direct dependency of OO, and in fact, if you search the older ebuilds for 'redland' you won't find any occurrences. So, time to comment that line out, ebuild digest, and /var/log... | tail -f | grep redland checking which redland library to use... internal Now I wait for the compile. I suspect at least something should be different this time. Will post with a further report since this issue seems more serious than I at first suspected. Also..Walt: I checked all the java items as suggested, but nothing was out of place to my eye; thanks for the sanity check, though. Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: I will now disable compiz and see what happens. could have waited for that: first click on thunderbird crashed session, logged in again, next click opend thunderbird fine. So, just to test the theory it works until I hit SEND again ;-) - Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2 Stefan SEND
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:09:07 Maxim Wexler wrote: aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work. Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs vs not booting at all, dammit! You are missing the point. That behaviour is wrong and I cannot overstate that enough. If your system requires an fsck at every boot to even reboot at all, then there is something badly wrong with your filesystem. Enabling an fsck at every boot for ext2 is merely working around the problem at another level and not addressing the actual problem. So please stop arguing with people who are trying to help you and instead find out why your system is exhibiting incorrect behaviour. My first guess is that the filesystem is not being correctly unmounted at shutdown and is therefore marked as dirty at next startup. Ext2 does require an fsck under those circumstances as the chances of data corruption are vastly increased - the assumption being that power to the machine was probably removed abruptly. There could be many reasons for this and you will have to investigate your shutdown process carefully. Do you disagree with my logic as stated above? On 11/30/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 30 November 2009 05:40:31 Maxim Wexler wrote: Right. wrong Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable fsck at boot. There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2 and requires being checked at every boot. Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to check it every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot times sky-high.. Before that it wouldn't boot at all. That would appear to be a completely separate issue. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:10:13 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: I will now disable compiz and see what happens. could have waited for that: first click on thunderbird crashed session, logged in again, next click opend thunderbird fine. So, just to test the theory it works until I hit SEND again ;-) - Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2 and which you will be asked to downgrade back to 1.7.1 with the next --sync. With luck, it won't bring your crashes back. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:09:47 daid kahl wrote: I've been getting the same silly OpenOffice compile error for a couple weeks now. Nothing I can search up or think of seems to do the trick. Here's the end of the output during compile: 1 module(s): unoxml need(s) to be rebuilt I had hoped to never ever see this error again, looks like my hopes were dashed. Long answer: The reason for the failure is in the build log, but it is never just above the error message. It is often many 1000s of lines higher. bugs.gentoo.org is infested with bug reports of this kind of thing, to get any meaningful answer you MUST follow the instructions in the ebuild and build with MAKEOPTS=-j1, also switch off distcc and cachecc as well. Using the ebuild instructions for building, the compile still fails, but the error above the fail is very slightly more useful: Entering /var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-3.1.1/work/ooo/build/ooo310-m19/uno xml/source/rdf 217 Compiling: unoxml/unxlngi6/misc/unordf_dflt_version.c 218 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CBlankNode.cxx 219 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CURI.cxx 220 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CLiteral.cxx 221 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_repository.cxx 222 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_services.cxx 223 Making:libunordfli.so 224 : ERROR: ../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/check_libunordfli.so: undefined symbol: librdf_free_storage redland and the whole rdf system has been horribly problematic for a while now, I've lost count of the number of bugs I've read about it. FWIW, here's what I have (my OOo build works fine): dev-libs/redland-1.0.9-r1 dev-java/lucene - 2.3.2 app-office/openoffice-3.1.1 (bash-completion cups dbus gstreamer gtk java kde ldap -mono -odk) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
I recently moved my local home directory to an nfs-mounted directory. Now I'm having trouble with kmail. It seems that the permissions on ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail/cur are being... changed... How are you mounting the drive? If it's in fstab, do you have the right options set for the mounting permissions and filesystem permissions after mount? Your output of an ls isn't that useful without knowing the working directory (besides that those question marks are strange). What about the permissions of /home/mdiehl before and after mount -- in particular, does it change (and does your user have rwx permissions on it)? Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
[about LastPass] I have an alarm system in my head. It's called the Security by bullshit baffles brains Alert. It's ringing right now ;-) Hahahaha. Just make your doorknob turn the wrong way and you don't have to lock it. Or you could remap all your system filestructure, remove all PATHS and That gives me an idea. I'm going to remove the semantic layer from all my filesystems and reference my files directly by inode number. That should confuse the buggers :-) Linux security: Even in the worst case, it's so broken only you know how to use it.
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
Right. wrong Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable fsck at boot. There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2 and requires being checked at every boot. Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to check it every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot times sky-high.. Before that it wouldn't boot at all. That would appear to be a completely separate issue. Exactly. In fact, we had a lab computer running a 2.2 kernel and it was failing fsck and wouldn't boot, so I just turned off the fsck at boot. Hey, the filesystem could be corrupted, but it boots! ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work. Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs vs not booting at all, dammit! And I'm not sure about this fewseconds. I suppose a netbook drive is small. But if I'm toying around with kernel configs and rebooting all day, you better believe I turn off fsck because it takes like 10 minutes (and my partition is only 50 GB). ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
On Monday 30 November 2009 05:54:31 Mike Diehl wrote: Hi all, I recently moved my local home directory to an nfs-mounted directory. Now I'm having trouble with kmail. It seems that the permissions on ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail/cur are being... changed... What I'm seeing is this: drwxrwxrwx 5 mdiehl users 4096 2009-11-28 03:41 . drwx-- 8 mdiehl mdiehl 4096 2009-11-29 18:43 .. d? ? ? ? ?? cur drwx-- 2 mdiehl users 4096 2009-09-02 19:32 new drwx-- 2 mdiehl users 4096 2009-11-29 18:43 tmp That is indicative of filesystem corruption where the kernel cannot read the directory for whatever reason. The server should always be able to read the inode for cur/ and read the owner/permissions data What nfs options are in use, both client and server side? Then, after a while, the permissions get changed to something more sane without me having done anything. Permissions don't just magically change. Either a cron runs that changes things, or a circumstance changes to allow the client to see the directory I've googled for this and not found anything. Strangely, kmail won't start unless it can read my sent-mail folder. That's not strange at all, an MUA that can't use it's sent folder is pretty useless as an MUA -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing
Alan McKinnon schrieb: Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2 and which you will be asked to downgrade back to 1.7.1 with the next --sync. Correct, I already saw that but ignored it so far as I am so happy without my crashes. With luck, it won't bring your crashes back. What's the reason for the downgrade? Should I do it? Greets, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
out why your system is exhibiting incorrect behaviour. What the hell do you think I'm doing? Do you disagree with my logic as stated above? logic? all I'm aware of is someone who insists on having the last word at all costs. Help me, my eye!
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing
On Monday 30 November 2009 20:07:39 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Alan McKinnon schrieb: Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2 and which you will be asked to downgrade back to 1.7.1 with the next --sync. Correct, I already saw that but ignored it so far as I am so happy without my crashes. With luck, it won't bring your crashes back. What's the reason for the downgrade? Should I do it? Greets, Stefan One of the most valuable files you get when you do a --sync is $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask. It answers this question: # Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (29 Nov 2009) # Breaks Video ABI =x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.2 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
On Monday 30 November 2009 10:56:17 am Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 30 November 2009 05:54:31 Mike Diehl wrote: Hi all, I recently moved my local home directory to an nfs-mounted directory. Now I'm having trouble with kmail. It seems that the permissions on ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail/cur are being... changed... What I'm seeing is this: drwxrwxrwx 5 mdiehl users 4096 2009-11-28 03:41 . drwx-- 8 mdiehl mdiehl 4096 2009-11-29 18:43 .. d? ? ? ? ?? cur drwx-- 2 mdiehl users 4096 2009-09-02 19:32 new drwx-- 2 mdiehl users 4096 2009-11-29 18:43 tmp That is indicative of filesystem corruption where the kernel cannot read the directory for whatever reason. The server should always be able to read the inode for cur/ and read the owner/permissions data The server sees the file permissions just fine; this is what the CLIENT sees. What nfs options are in use, both client and server side? I used this fstab entry on the client: 10.0.1.1:/home /home nfs defaults0 0 Then, after a while, the permissions get changed to something more sane without me having done anything. Permissions don't just magically change. Either a cron runs that changes things, or a circumstance changes to allow the client to see the directory I don't have any cron jobs running. I'm not doing anything to change the circumstances in such a way that the permissions should change. I litteraly type kmail until it starts. I've googled for this and not found anything. Strangely, kmail won't start unless it can read my sent-mail folder. That's not strange at all, an MUA that can't use it's sent folder is pretty useless as an MUA It would be nice to at least be able to READ my messages without sent-mail permissions -- Take care and have fun, Mike Diehl.
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
Success on compiling OOo! I'm quite certain it was the ebuild, and that making it use the internal redland and not the system redland was the issue in my case. However, I've undone my changes in the ebuild and began compiling again so that I can confirm it fails with only that change. I had also rebuilt redland, but as I told OOo not to use the system redland, that's why I'm checking again with the default ebuild. Presuming my guess here is correct, then I need to make a bugzilla post on the matter. That's probably true anyway since I got the message: * QA Notice: * Package openoffice is breaking /usr/share/config permissions. * Please report this issue to gentoo bugzilla. * Permissions will get adjusted automatically now. But that could be from my tinkering in the ebuild as well. My assumption on the cause of the problem is that I'm missing some dependency of redland that OOo expects, and it's not called in explicitly by portage. Either that or somehow I diffed my own install (would be news to me). FWIW, here's what I have (my OOo build works fine): dev-libs/redland-1.0.9-r1 dev-java/lucene - 2.3.2 app-office/openoffice-3.1.1 (bash-completion cups dbus gstreamer gtk java kde ldap -mono -odk) These are the same as mine, with the exceptions that my lucene is slotted and my OOo has less USE flags. Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
On Monday 30 November 2009 22:48:22 daid kahl wrote: Success on compiling OOo! I'm quite certain it was the ebuild, and that making it use the internal redland and not the system redland was the issue in my case. However, I've undone my changes in the ebuild and began compiling again so that I can confirm it fails with only that change. I had also rebuilt redland, but as I told OOo not to use the system redland, that's why I'm checking again with the default ebuild. Presuming my guess here is correct, then I need to make a bugzilla post on the matter. That's probably true anyway since I got the message: * QA Notice: * Package openoffice is breaking /usr/share/config permissions. * Please report this issue to gentoo bugzilla. * Permissions will get adjusted automatically now. That's a known issue - it saw a reference to it on b.g.o. last night. That bug report declared it to be a kde integration error. Logic tells me any number of faulty things could do it too). I'm sure the OOo maintainer will appreciate the detailed bug report you are now in a position to give :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
What nfs options are in use, both client and server side? I used this fstab entry on the client: 10.0.1.1:/home /home nfs defaults 0 0 Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot. But usually from my experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is initialized. You could test this either by manually unmounting and mounting it or turning off auto. But if you can see the files at all, it seems to say that it managed to mount. Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
2009/12/1 daid kahl daid...@gmail.com: What nfs options are in use, both client and server side? I used this fstab entry on the client: 10.0.1.1:/home /home nfs defaults 0 0 Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot. But usually from my experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is initialized. You could test this either by manually unmounting and mounting it or turning off auto. But if you can see the files at all, it seems to say that it managed to mount. Regards, daid Can I also confirm that your user ID and group ID values are the same on the server and localhost? Running $ id as the user in question at the command line on both machines ought to do the trick. ~d
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
That's a known issue - it saw a reference to it on b.g.o. last night. That bug report declared it to be a kde integration error. Logic tells me any number of faulty things could do it too). Shouldn't be kde. Unmerged that last month... I'm sure the OOo maintainer will appreciate the detailed bug report you are now in a position to give :-) Woah woah woah...you mean they don't like, Error 65280 WTF?!?! ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing
Alan McKinnon schrieb: One of the most valuable files you get when you do a --sync is $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask. It answers this question: # Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (29 Nov 2009) # Breaks Video ABI =x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.2 everyday is schoolday. Thank you, Alan. I decide to leave it as it is for the next days. Afaik I don't need Video ABI on this machine for now. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: Then please test again with -v It works. See attached the output of the command: # script -f -c /var/tmp/CDRTOOLS/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -v -sao -eject speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso /var/tmp/cdrecord.log This is really good news and the -v output shows that the first 1-2 MB, there is no display for the drive buffer fill ratio as cdrecord does not call read buffer cap. I just released 2.01.01a69 at: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ that includes the change. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
On Monday 30 November 2009 02:05:50 pm daid kahl wrote: 2009/12/1 daid kahl daid...@gmail.com: What nfs options are in use, both client and server side? I used this fstab entry on the client: 10.0.1.1:/home /home nfs defaults 0 0 Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot. But usually from my experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is initialized. You could test this either by manually unmounting and mounting it or turning off auto. But if you can see the files at all, it seems to say that it managed to mount. Regards, daid Can I also confirm that your user ID and group ID values are the same on the server and localhost? Running $ id as the user in question at the command line on both machines ought to do the trick. ~d Yes, the uid/gid is 1001 on both client and server. I'm going to do some research on mount options to see if there is some tweekage that can ge done there. In the mean time, this should work, but isn't. BTW, the nfs mounts are done via /etc/init.d/nfs, which does a mount -a nfs. Thanks for your time. Any suggestions are more than welcome. -- Take care and have fun, Mike Diehl.
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:09:07 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work. Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs vs not booting at all, dammit! Correction, you are one person with a netbook. Others with netbooks have contributed to this thread, and no one seems to agree with your position. If a filesystem will not mount without an fsck, it is broken. It doesn't matter whether that filesystem is on a desktop, server, laptop, netbook, MID or mobile phone as the location of the filesystem is irrelevant, only the fact that it needs fixing before it can boot... every time. -- Neil Bothwick A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts. -- Herbert V. Prochnow signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:01:23 +0900, daid kahl wrote: Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot. But usually from my experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is initialized. You could test this either by manually unmounting and mounting it or turning off auto. The Gentoo init scripts mount the local filesystems first, early on, then the init.d/netmount script takes care of the rest once the network is up. -- Neil Bothwick I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Phonon and non-ascii character with non-UTF8 locales
Hi fellows, I'm writing this e-mail to ask for a test. Everyone who are using KDE 4 and a non-UTF8 locale please do the following steps: - Pick a .mp3 file and put in a place which the path (or the name of the file) contains an non-ascii character, like an accent. - Try to open it with Juk, Dragon Player or Amarok and see if it is played. - If not, remove the non-ascii character and try it again. I'm proposing this test to confirm that it is a real bug on Phonon. My locale is pt_BR.ISO-8859-1. I have done this test and I realized that I can't play any files by Amarok, Juk or Dragon Player that fits on that condition. When I switched my locale to pt_BR.UTF-8 and so the filename, the problems are gone. I won't start a discussion why I (or we) shouldn't move from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8, the short answer is because I don't want due to the huge numbers of files encoded this way and for a better Windows compatibility. If you find this bug also, please, let me know and post at: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198008 The goal is to change the bug status from UNCONFIRMED to CONFIRMED, what will hopefully make the KDE devs correct it more faster, because I'm facing it since KDE 4.1.0. -- Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas Control and Automation Engineer Gentoo Foundation Member signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is OK, no? I set this forth above. Did your eyes glaze over at that point? Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse. /dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ... On 11/30/09, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:09:07 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work. Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs vs not booting at all, dammit! Correction, you are one person with a netbook. Others with netbooks have contributed to this thread, and no one seems to agree with your position. If a filesystem will not mount without an fsck, it is broken. It doesn't matter whether that filesystem is on a desktop, server, laptop, netbook, MID or mobile phone as the location of the filesystem is irrelevant, only the fact that it needs fixing before it can boot... every time. -- Neil Bothwick A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts. -- Herbert V. Prochnow
[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:37:49 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I determine the motherboard make and model? I mean without opening the case. sys-apps/lshw Good call Neil, I found that tool shortly after posting. It gives as good as dmidecode, at least in my case.
[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes: As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case? Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some contorted position where I can see inside, and finally just hoping I'll be able to see something worthwhile that isn't covered with monstor Tuniq 120 cooler or some such. So guess in short, it would be, aside from extreme laziness extreme laziness...
Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml
Success on compiling OOo! I'm quite certain it was the ebuild, and that making it use the internal redland and not the system redland was the issue in my case. Bing! Now submitted a bug report: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295268 Regards, daid
[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey 2.0 and certain sites not working.
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:04:16 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 11/29/2009 4:05 AM, Dale wrote: [snip] Instead of attributions, all your posts have that chrome pseudo-URL. Ideas? I think you have enough SeaMonkey troubles to connect to it to news.mozilla.org and ask in the mozilla.support.seamonkey group. It's a peer support group like this list, but some developers also hang out there. -- »Q« Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:29:32 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: After all, how many people see the source code for Seamonkey, thousands, maybe million or more? I don't think that many people can keep a secret like that. While anyone who wants to *can* look at it, probably only a few dozen actually look at very much of it. But every bit of new code that's checked in is reviewed by someone who's been working with Mozilla stuff for a long while and has earned a reputation as a trusted contributor. -- »Q« Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.
[gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Dale wrote: So, another question. Is there a tool that is local and would do something like this? I am using Seamonkey 2.0 nowadays. It seems to have some tools available to it that the old Seamonkey doesn't. Dale :-) :-) There is a tool I've used in the past called PasswordMaker. It uses a master password and a flexible set of parameters to generate passwords and if necessary, enter them on a site. It has a plugin for firefox and I believe seamonkey too. I can't check this second because their site appears to be down (bandwidth exceeded). It doesn't store the passwords anywhere and will only store the master password on your machine if you specifically ask for it. Once you enter the master password and select the appropriate settings (length, character set, hashing algorithm etc etc), the password will be generated. You can also use the current website as a salt, so using the same settings will yield a different password for different sites. Sounds like I'm advocating this very heavily, in fact I don't have much experience with it. It sounds reasonable to me, but I'll let you guys discuss it :) Matt I saw this on the plugin site. I notice it generates passwords but I'm pretty good at that myself. I doubt anyone would guess my password for my bank and credit card. They are not based on anything, not birth dates, Social Security number, account number or anything like that. I used to use a password that had some of the characters above the number keys but I got tired of typing all that mess in. It may be more secure with them but the bank chose to block my password manager from filling them in automatically. I changed it to something easier to type in. Also had a few rounds with the bank too. The changes they made do not make anything more secure than it already was. Several universities did studies and some of them said it made things worse by providing a false sense of security. I did not notice that it had a fill in feature tho. It may not work with my bank but I may try it since it appears to be a local thing and doesn't transmit anything to a third party. Lastpass seems to do this. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey 2.0 and certain sites not working.
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:04:16 -0600 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 11/29/2009 4:05 AM, Dale wrote: [snip] Instead of attributions, all your posts have that chrome pseudo-URL. Ideas? I think you have enough SeaMonkey troubles to connect to it to news.mozilla.org and ask in the mozilla.support.seamonkey group. It's a peer support group like this list, but some developers also hang out there. I'm thinking about going back to Seamonkey 1. Just like KDE 4, it's just not quite ready for everyday use. It works as far as what is supposed to be working but still has a few issues that need to be ironed out. That chrome thingy is just one of them. I was wondering about that thing tho. I'm not real sure what that is all about. I looked around the preferences but couldn't find any way to change the behavior. I'm not sure about the certificate thing tho. Since Konqueror also does it, it may not be the browser but the bank website and others. I also went to a site last night that didn't work too. I meant to make a not of that but forgot. If it was just Seamonkey then I would agree 100%. Since Konqueror does it to, that deducts a few points from it being just Seamonkey. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Dienstag 01 Dezember 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote: you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is OK, no? I set this forth above. Did your eyes glaze over at that point? Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse. /dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ... well, now you know why he isn't a gentoo dev anymore :D but seriously, Neil has a point. If your system demands a fsck on every boot something is very fishy.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:29:32 -0600 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: After all, how many people see the source code for Seamonkey, thousands, maybe million or more? I don't think that many people can keep a secret like that. While anyone who wants to *can* look at it, probably only a few dozen actually look at very much of it. But every bit of new code that's checked in is reviewed by someone who's been working with Mozilla stuff for a long while and has earned a reputation as a trusted contributor. Which is why Lastpass needs to let someone outside see their code, sort of earn the peoples trust. Even tho Seamonkey 2 has a few issues right now, I still trust it. I am not worried that they are logging my keystrokes or anything like that. Lastpass, as some have pointed out, could be doing just that. We don't *really* know what they are doing other than what they claim. I like the idea behind it but lack the trust, sort of like Alan I guess. I wanted to use it but was not sure it was safe hence the thread about it. Dale :-) :-)