Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 03:21:08 daid kahl wrote:
 Forgive the top-post, but I would like to say I was very impressed by
 the analysis of Joerg Schilling.
 
 Given the issue appears resolved, I can't help myself:
  When I bought this notebook in january and first installed gentoo,
  cdrecord used to work. Then at some point ago (probably after some
  update) it has stopped working with the behaviour I have described
  above.
 
 This is every single story of Gentoo and Linux in amazing brevity.

/s/Gentoo and Linux/software/

There you go. Fixed that for you.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 05:40:31 Maxim Wexler wrote:
  Right.
 
 wrong
 
  Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll
  want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable
  fsck at boot.
 
 There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2  and requires
 being checked at every boot. 

Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to check it 
every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot times 
sky-high..

 Before that it wouldn't boot at all.

That would appear to be a completely separate issue.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 02:55:09 daid kahl wrote:
  [about LastPass]
 
  I have an alarm system in my head. It's called the Security by bullshit
  baffles brains Alert. It's ringing right now ;-)
 
 Hahahaha.
 
 Just make your doorknob turn the wrong way and you don't have to lock
 it.  Or you could remap all your system filestructure, remove all
 PATHS and

That gives me an idea. I'm going to remove the semantic layer from all my 
filesystems and reference my files directly by inode number.

That should confuse the buggers :-)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:40:31 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:

  Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll
  want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable
  fsck at boot.  
 
 There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2  and requires
 being checked at every boot. Before that it wouldn't boot at all.

If the filesystem was cleanly unmounted, fsck does nothing, except on
every 30th mount (unless you have changed to with e2fstune). The
filesystem should mount whether you run fsck or not. On the other hand,
having a battery run out during a fsck operation could be damaging, so
the idea of skipping this check when on battery power is a good one.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Do hungry crows have ravenous appetites?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-11-30 Thread Dale

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On Monday 30 November 2009 02:55:09 daid kahl wrote:
   

[about LastPass]
 

I have an alarm system in my head. It's called the Security by bullshit
baffles brains Alert. It's ringing right now ;-)
   

Hahahaha.

Just make your doorknob turn the wrong way and you don't have to lock
it.  Or you could remap all your system filestructure, remove all
PATHS and
 

That gives me an idea. I'm going to remove the semantic layer from all my
filesystems and reference my files directly by inode number.

That should confuse the buggers :-)

   


Naw, I like this one as far as the house goes.  Buy four dead bolts and 
only lock two of them.  You may have to think on that one for a minute.  
;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Re: OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-11-30 Thread walt

On 11/29/2009 02:19 PM, daid kahl wrote:

PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.4:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.17/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.17/jre/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.17/jre/javaws:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin:/home/daid/scripts:/sbin:/usr/non-portage:/home/daid/.gentoo/java-config-2/current-user-vm/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/warlock2:/usr/local/sbin
VMHANDLE=sun-jdk-1.4


Two things popped out at me in the emerge --info I hadn't considered,
which is that my machine for some reason believes it's still on
sun-jdk-1.4 even though that's not installed (it was installed some
time ago).

So I'm considering those now and how to get my system clean of
sun-jdk-1.4.  But the vm should be set correctly...


Check /etc/env.d and /etc/conf.d and /etc/java-config* for stale files
from early versions.  Also check in /usr/share/anything-java-related.
Oh, and /usr/lib/jvm also.




Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work.
Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs
vs not booting at all, dammit!

On 11/30/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 30 November 2009 05:40:31 Maxim Wexler wrote:
  Right.

 wrong

  Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll
  want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable
  fsck at boot.

 There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2  and requires
 being checked at every boot.

 Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to check
 it
 every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot times
 sky-high..

 Before that it wouldn't boot at all.

 That would appear to be a completely separate issue.

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
 I've been getting the same silly OpenOffice compile error for a couple
 weeks now.  Nothing I can search up or think of seems to do the trick.

 Here's the end of the output during compile:

 1 module(s):
       unoxml
 need(s) to be rebuilt

 I had hoped to never ever see this error again, looks like my hopes were
 dashed.

 Long answer: The reason for the failure is in the build log, but it is never
 just above the error message. It is often many 1000s of lines higher.
 bugs.gentoo.org is infested with bug reports of this kind of thing, to get any
 meaningful answer you *MUST* follow the instructions in the ebuild and build
 with MAKEOPTS=-j1, also switch off distcc and cachecc as well.

Using the ebuild instructions for building, the compile still fails,
but the error above the fail is very slightly more useful:

Entering 
/var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-3.1.1/work/ooo/build/ooo310-m19/unoxml/source/rdf
217 Compiling: unoxml/unxlngi6/misc/unordf_dflt_version.c
218 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CBlankNode.cxx
219 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CURI.cxx
220 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CLiteral.cxx
221 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_repository.cxx
222 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_services.cxx
223 Making:libunordfli.so
224 : ERROR: ../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/check_libunordfli.so: undefined
symbol: librdf_free_storage
225 dmake:  Error code 1, while making '../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/libunordfli.so'
226
227 ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making
/var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-3.1.1/work/ooo/build/ooo310-m19/unoxml/source/rdf
228 rmdir /tmp/30017
229 make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1

So we at least can say that redland libraries are somehow related to
the problem at hand.  The only similar error I could find on google
(http://www.mail-archive.com/allb...@openoffice.org/msg391683.html)
appears independent of OO and implicates libcrypto as a problem.

With this information in mind, I re-emerged redland and openssl
(libcrypto belongs to openssl).

I was digging through the emerge logs, and I have successful builds of
OO-3.0.0 from a couple months ago.  The thing that is very interesting
is that code that is failing in 3.1.1 (librdf_*.cxx) was never even
compiled in 3.0.0!  The objects are there, the C++ codes are patched,
but they are never compiled according to the emerge log.

Having read the similar error from redland, I also notice something
else suspicious:

Log from 3.0.0 successful build:
checking which redland library to use... internal

Log from 3.1.1 failed build:
checking which redland library to use... external

If you didn't read the link on the only similar bug I googled, here is
an excerpt:
 Building (with o3-build) fails because redland links agains the system's 
 version
 of libcrypt. It later fails in unoxml because the linked-in lib is not found
 anymore:

The error itself is quite similar, although the undefined reference
itself is different (excerpt from above link):
 Checking DLL ../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/check_libunordfli.so ...: ERROR:
 libcrypto.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 dmake:  Error code 1, while making ´../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/libunordfli.so´

So why is OO using the external (system) redland libraries which are
later not found, and how can I force it to use the internal redland
libraries?  (Please note: for this discussion, external library is
the same as system library)

There's no use flag, but the openoffice ebuild suggests:

# Upstream this
echo --with-system-redland  ${CONFFILE}

I should note that in the 3.0.0 and 3.0.1 ebuilds (I have them on
backup -- they were removed from portage) redland is not a direct
dependency of OO, and in fact, if you search the older ebuilds for
'redland' you won't find any occurrences.

So, time to comment that line out, ebuild digest, and /var/log... |
tail -f | grep redland
checking which redland library to use... internal

Now I wait for the compile.  I suspect at least something should be
different this time.  Will post with a further report since this issue
seems more serious than I at first suspected.

Also..Walt: I checked all the java items as suggested, but nothing was
out of place to my eye; thanks for the sanity check, though.

Regards,
daid



Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing

2009-11-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:

  I will now disable compiz and see what happens.
 
 could have waited for that:
 
 first click on thunderbird crashed session, logged in again, next click
 opend thunderbird fine.

So, just to test the theory it works until I hit SEND again ;-)  -

Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2

Stefan

SEND



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:09:07 Maxim Wexler wrote:
 aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work.
 Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs
 vs not booting at all, dammit!

You are missing the point. That behaviour is wrong and I cannot overstate that 
enough.

If your system requires an fsck at every boot to even reboot at all, then 
there is something badly wrong with your filesystem. Enabling an fsck at every 
boot for ext2 is merely working around the problem at another level and not 
addressing the actual problem.

So please stop arguing with people who are trying to help you and instead find 
out why your system is exhibiting incorrect behaviour. My first guess is that 
the filesystem is not being correctly unmounted at shutdown and is therefore 
marked as dirty at next startup. Ext2 does require an fsck under those 
circumstances as the chances of data corruption are vastly increased - the 
assumption being that power to the machine was probably removed abruptly. 
There could be many reasons for this and you will have to investigate your 
shutdown process carefully.

Do you disagree with my logic as stated above?




 
 On 11/30/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Monday 30 November 2009 05:40:31 Maxim Wexler wrote:
   Right.
 
  wrong
 
   Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll
   want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable
   fsck at boot.
 
  There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2  and requires
  being checked at every boot.
 
  Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to
  check it
  every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot
  times sky-high..
 
  Before that it wouldn't boot at all.
 
  That would appear to be a completely separate issue.
 
  --
  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
 

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:10:13 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:
   I will now disable compiz and see what happens.
 
  could have waited for that:
 
  first click on thunderbird crashed session, logged in again, next click
  opend thunderbird fine.
 
 So, just to test the theory it works until I hit SEND again ;-)  -
 
 Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2

and which you will be asked to downgrade back to 1.7.1 with the next --sync.

With luck, it won't bring your crashes back.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:09:47 daid kahl wrote:
  I've been getting the same silly OpenOffice compile error for a couple
  weeks now.  Nothing I can search up or think of seems to do the trick.
 
  Here's the end of the output during compile:
 
  1 module(s):
unoxml
  need(s) to be rebuilt
 
  I had hoped to never ever see this error again, looks like my hopes were
  dashed.
 
  Long answer: The reason for the failure is in the build log, but it is
  never just above the error message. It is often many 1000s of lines
  higher. bugs.gentoo.org is infested with bug reports of this kind of
  thing, to get any meaningful answer you MUST follow the instructions in
  the ebuild and build with MAKEOPTS=-j1, also switch off distcc and
  cachecc as well.
 
 Using the ebuild instructions for building, the compile still fails,
 but the error above the fail is very slightly more useful:
 
 Entering
  /var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-3.1.1/work/ooo/build/ooo310-m19/uno
 xml/source/rdf 217 Compiling: unoxml/unxlngi6/misc/unordf_dflt_version.c
 218 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CBlankNode.cxx
 219 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CURI.cxx
 220 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/CLiteral.cxx
 221 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_repository.cxx
 222 Compiling: unoxml/source/rdf/librdf_services.cxx
 223 Making:libunordfli.so
 224 : ERROR: ../../unxlngi6.pro/lib/check_libunordfli.so: undefined
 symbol: librdf_free_storage
 

redland and the whole rdf system has been horribly problematic for a while 
now, I've lost count of the number of bugs I've read about it.

FWIW, here's what I have (my OOo build works fine):

dev-libs/redland-1.0.9-r1
dev-java/lucene - 2.3.2
app-office/openoffice-3.1.1   (bash-completion cups dbus gstreamer gtk java 
kde ldap -mono -odk)



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
 I recently moved my local home directory to an nfs-mounted directory.  Now I'm
 having trouble with kmail.  It seems that the permissions on
 ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail/cur are being... changed...

How are you mounting the drive?

If it's in fstab, do you have the right options set for the mounting
permissions and filesystem permissions after mount?

Your output of an ls isn't that useful without knowing the working
directory (besides that those question marks are strange).

What about the permissions of /home/mdiehl before and after mount --
in particular, does it change (and does your user have rwx permissions
on it)?

Regards,
daid



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
  [about LastPass]
 
  I have an alarm system in my head. It's called the Security by bullshit
  baffles brains Alert. It's ringing right now ;-)

 Hahahaha.

 Just make your doorknob turn the wrong way and you don't have to lock
 it.  Or you could remap all your system filestructure, remove all
 PATHS and

 That gives me an idea. I'm going to remove the semantic layer from all my
 filesystems and reference my files directly by inode number.

 That should confuse the buggers :-)

Linux security: Even in the worst case, it's so broken only you know
how to use it.



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
  Right.

 wrong

  Of course, if there are serious filesystem structural problems you'll
  want to get them solved, but it's either a LiveCD chroot or disable
  fsck at boot.

 There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. It's ext2  and requires
 being checked at every boot.

 Wrong. There is no need to fsck ext2 at every boot. The default is to check it
 every 26 mounts. You can change that if you want, and send your reboot times
 sky-high..

 Before that it wouldn't boot at all.

 That would appear to be a completely separate issue.

Exactly.  In fact, we had a lab computer running a 2.2 kernel and it
was failing fsck and wouldn't boot, so I just turned off the fsck at
boot.  Hey, the filesystem could be corrupted, but it boots!

~daid



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
 aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work.
 Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs
 vs not booting at all, dammit!

And I'm not sure about this fewseconds.  I suppose a netbook drive is
small.  But if I'm toying around with kernel configs and rebooting all
day, you better believe I turn off fsck because it takes like 10
minutes (and my partition is only  50 GB).

~daid



Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 05:54:31 Mike Diehl wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I recently moved my local home directory to an nfs-mounted directory.  Now
  I'm having trouble with kmail.  It seems that the permissions on
 ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail/cur are being... changed...
 
 What I'm seeing is this:
 
 drwxrwxrwx 5 mdiehl users  4096 2009-11-28 03:41 .
 drwx-- 8 mdiehl mdiehl 4096 2009-11-29 18:43 ..
 d? ? ?  ? ?? cur
 drwx-- 2 mdiehl users  4096 2009-09-02 19:32 new
 drwx-- 2 mdiehl users  4096 2009-11-29 18:43 tmp

That is indicative of filesystem corruption where the kernel cannot read the 
directory for whatever reason. The server should always be able to read the 
inode for cur/ and read the owner/permissions data

What nfs options are in use, both client and server side?

 Then, after a while, the permissions get changed to something more sane
 without me having done anything.

Permissions don't just magically change. Either a cron runs that changes 
things, or a circumstance changes to allow the client to see the directory
 
 I've googled for this and not found anything.  Strangely, kmail won't start
 unless it can read my sent-mail folder.

That's not strange at all, an MUA that can't use it's sent folder is pretty 
useless as an MUA

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing

2009-11-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb:

 Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2
 
 and which you will be asked to downgrade back to 1.7.1 with the next --sync.

Correct, I already saw that but ignored it so far as I am so happy
without my crashes.

 With luck, it won't bring your crashes back.

What's the reason for the downgrade? Should I do it?
Greets, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
 out why your system is exhibiting incorrect behaviour.

What the hell do you think I'm doing?

 Do you disagree with my logic as stated above?

logic? all I'm aware of is someone who insists on having the last word
at all costs.

Help me, my eye!



Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 20:07:39 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Alan McKinnon schrieb:
  Not a single crash since I upgraded to xorg-server-1.7.2
 
  and which you will be asked to downgrade back to 1.7.1 with the next
  --sync.
 
 Correct, I already saw that but ignored it so far as I am so happy
 without my crashes.
 
  With luck, it won't bring your crashes back.
 
 What's the reason for the downgrade? Should I do it?
 Greets, Stefan
 

One of the most valuable files you get when you do a --sync is 
$PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask. It answers this question:

# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (29 Nov 2009)
# Breaks Video ABI
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.2


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail

2009-11-30 Thread Mike Diehl
On Monday 30 November 2009 10:56:17 am Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 30 November 2009 05:54:31 Mike Diehl wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I recently moved my local home directory to an nfs-mounted directory. 
  Now I'm having trouble with kmail.  It seems that the permissions on
  ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/sent-mail/cur are being... changed...
 
  What I'm seeing is this:
 
  drwxrwxrwx 5 mdiehl users  4096 2009-11-28 03:41 .
  drwx-- 8 mdiehl mdiehl 4096 2009-11-29 18:43 ..
  d? ? ?  ? ?? cur
  drwx-- 2 mdiehl users  4096 2009-09-02 19:32 new
  drwx-- 2 mdiehl users  4096 2009-11-29 18:43 tmp

 That is indicative of filesystem corruption where the kernel cannot read
 the directory for whatever reason. The server should always be able to read
 the inode for cur/ and read the owner/permissions data

The server sees the file permissions just fine; this is what the CLIENT sees.

 What nfs options are in use, both client and server side?

I used this fstab entry on the client:
10.0.1.1:/home  /home   nfs defaults0   0

  Then, after a while, the permissions get changed to something more sane
  without me having done anything.

 Permissions don't just magically change. Either a cron runs that changes
 things, or a circumstance changes to allow the client to see the directory

I don't have any cron jobs running.  I'm not doing anything to change the 
circumstances in such a way that the permissions should change.  I litteraly 
type kmail until it starts.

  I've googled for this and not found anything.  Strangely, kmail won't
  start unless it can read my sent-mail folder.

 That's not strange at all, an MUA that can't use it's sent folder is pretty
 useless as an MUA

It would be nice to at least be able to READ my messages without sent-mail 
permissions

-- 

Take care and have fun,
Mike Diehl.



Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
Success on compiling OOo!

I'm quite certain it was the ebuild, and that making it use the
internal redland and not the system redland was the issue in my case.

However, I've undone my changes in the ebuild and began compiling
again so that I can confirm it fails with only that change.

I had also rebuilt redland, but as I told OOo not to use the system
redland, that's why I'm checking again with the default ebuild.

Presuming my guess here is correct, then I need to make a bugzilla
post on the matter.  That's probably true anyway since I got the
message:

  * QA Notice:
  * Package openoffice is breaking /usr/share/config permissions.
  * Please report this issue to gentoo bugzilla.
  * Permissions will get adjusted automatically now.

But that could be from my tinkering in the ebuild as well.

My assumption on the cause of the problem is that I'm missing some
dependency of redland that OOo expects, and it's not called in
explicitly by portage.  Either that or somehow I diffed my own install
(would be news to me).

 FWIW, here's what I have (my OOo build works fine):

 dev-libs/redland-1.0.9-r1
 dev-java/lucene - 2.3.2
 app-office/openoffice-3.1.1   (bash-completion cups dbus gstreamer gtk java
 kde ldap -mono -odk)


These are the same as mine, with the exceptions that my lucene is
slotted and my OOo has less USE flags.

Regards,
daid



Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-11-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 November 2009 22:48:22 daid kahl wrote:
 Success on compiling OOo!
 
 I'm quite certain it was the ebuild, and that making it use the
 internal redland and not the system redland was the issue in my case.
 
 However, I've undone my changes in the ebuild and began compiling
 again so that I can confirm it fails with only that change.
 
 I had also rebuilt redland, but as I told OOo not to use the system
 redland, that's why I'm checking again with the default ebuild.
 
 Presuming my guess here is correct, then I need to make a bugzilla
 post on the matter.  That's probably true anyway since I got the
 message:
 
   * QA Notice:
   * Package openoffice is breaking /usr/share/config permissions.
   * Please report this issue to gentoo bugzilla.
   * Permissions will get adjusted automatically now.
 

That's a known issue - it saw a reference to it on b.g.o. last night. That bug 
report declared it to be a kde integration error. Logic tells me any number of 
faulty things could do it too).

I'm sure the OOo maintainer will appreciate the detailed bug report you are 
now in a position to give :-)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
 What nfs options are in use, both client and server side?

 I used this fstab entry on the client:
 10.0.1.1:/home  /home   nfs     defaults        0       0


Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot.  But usually from my
experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is
initialized.  You could test this either by manually unmounting and
mounting it or turning off auto.

But if you can see the files at all, it seems to say that it managed to mount.

Regards,
daid



Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
2009/12/1 daid kahl daid...@gmail.com:
 What nfs options are in use, both client and server side?

 I used this fstab entry on the client:
 10.0.1.1:/home  /home   nfs     defaults        0       0


 Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot.  But usually from my
 experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is
 initialized.  You could test this either by manually unmounting and
 mounting it or turning off auto.

 But if you can see the files at all, it seems to say that it managed to mount.

 Regards,
 daid


Can I also confirm that your user ID and group ID values are the same
on the server and localhost?

Running $ id as the user in question at the command line on both
machines ought to do the trick.

~d



Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
 That's a known issue - it saw a reference to it on b.g.o. last night. That bug
 report declared it to be a kde integration error. Logic tells me any number of
 faulty things could do it too).

Shouldn't be kde.  Unmerged that last month...


 I'm sure the OOo maintainer will appreciate the detailed bug report you are
 now in a position to give :-)

Woah woah woah...you mean they don't like, Error 65280 WTF?!?!

~daid



Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing

2009-11-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb:

 One of the most valuable files you get when you do a --sync is 
 $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask. It answers this question:
 
 # Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (29 Nov 2009)
 # Breaks Video ABI
 =x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.2

everyday is schoolday.
Thank you, Alan.

I decide to leave it as it is for the next days.
Afaik I don't need Video ABI on this machine for now.

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd

2009-11-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Then please test again with -v

 It works. See attached the output of the command:

 # script -f -c /var/tmp/CDRTOOLS/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -v -sao -eject 
 speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso /var/tmp/cdrecord.log

This is really good news and the -v output shows that the first 1-2 MB, there 
is no display for the drive buffer fill ratio as cdrecord does not call read
buffer cap. I just released 2.01.01a69 at:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/

that includes the change.

Jörg

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http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily



Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail

2009-11-30 Thread Mike Diehl
On Monday 30 November 2009 02:05:50 pm daid kahl wrote:
 2009/12/1 daid kahl daid...@gmail.com:
  What nfs options are in use, both client and server side?
 
  I used this fstab entry on the client:
  10.0.1.1:/home  /home   nfs     defaults        0       0
 
  Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot.  But usually from my
  experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is
  initialized.  You could test this either by manually unmounting and
  mounting it or turning off auto.
 
  But if you can see the files at all, it seems to say that it managed to
  mount.
 
  Regards,
  daid

 Can I also confirm that your user ID and group ID values are the same
 on the server and localhost?

 Running $ id as the user in question at the command line on both
 machines ought to do the trick.

 ~d

Yes, the uid/gid is 1001 on both client and server.  I'm going to do some 
research on mount options to see if there is some tweekage that can ge done 
there.  In the mean time, this should work, but isn't.

BTW, the nfs mounts are done via /etc/init.d/nfs, which does a mount -a nfs.

Thanks for your time.  Any suggestions are more than welcome.

-- 

Take care and have fun,
Mike Diehl.



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:09:07 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:

 aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work.
 Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs
 vs not booting at all, dammit!

Correction, you are one person with a netbook. Others with netbooks have
contributed to this thread, and no one seems to agree with your position.
If a filesystem will not mount without an fsck, it is broken. It doesn't
matter whether that filesystem is on a desktop, server, laptop, netbook,
MID or mobile phone as the location of the filesystem is irrelevant, only
the fact that it needs fixing before it can boot... every time.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts. -- Herbert V. Prochnow


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Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail

2009-11-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:01:23 +0900, daid kahl wrote:

 Using defaults you are auto-mounting at boot.  But usually from my
 experience items in fstab would be mounted before the network is
 initialized.  You could test this either by manually unmounting and
 mounting it or turning off auto.

The Gentoo init scripts mount the local filesystems first, early on, then
the init.d/netmount script takes care of the rest once the network is up.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full
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[gentoo-user] Phonon and non-ascii character with non-UTF8 locales

2009-11-30 Thread Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas
Hi fellows,

I'm writing this e-mail to ask for a test.
Everyone who are using KDE 4 and a non-UTF8 locale please do the following 
steps:

- Pick a .mp3 file and put in a place which the path (or the name of the file) 
contains an non-ascii character, like an accent.
- Try to open it with Juk, Dragon Player or Amarok and see if it is played.
- If not, remove the non-ascii character and try it again.

I'm proposing this test to confirm that it is a real bug on Phonon.
My locale is pt_BR.ISO-8859-1. I have done this test and I realized that I 
can't play any files by Amarok, Juk or Dragon Player that fits on that 
condition.
When I switched my locale to pt_BR.UTF-8 and so the filename, the problems are 
gone.

I won't start a discussion why I (or we) shouldn't move from ISO-8859-1 to 
UTF-8, the short answer is because I don't want due to the huge numbers of 
files encoded this way and for a better Windows compatibility.

If you find this bug also, please, let me know and post at: 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198008
The goal is to change the bug status from UNCONFIRMED to CONFIRMED, what will 
hopefully make the KDE devs correct it more faster, because I'm facing it since 
KDE 4.1.0.
-- 
Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas
Control and Automation Engineer
Gentoo Foundation Member


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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is
plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no
problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is
OK, no? I set this forth above. Did your eyes glaze over at that
point?

Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git
to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse.
/dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to
start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac
cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ...




On 11/30/09, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:09:07 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote:

 aarrrgh!! I'm the one with the netbook!! The default didn't work.
 Checking fs every boot does. Extra reboot time amounts to a few secs
 vs not booting at all, dammit!

 Correction, you are one person with a netbook. Others with netbooks have
 contributed to this thread, and no one seems to agree with your position.
 If a filesystem will not mount without an fsck, it is broken. It doesn't
 matter whether that filesystem is on a desktop, server, laptop, netbook,
 MID or mobile phone as the location of the filesystem is irrelevant, only
 the fact that it needs fixing before it can boot... every time.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts. -- Herbert V. Prochnow




[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:

 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:37:49 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 How can I determine the motherboard make and model?  I mean without
 opening the case.

 sys-apps/lshw

Good call Neil, I found that tool shortly after posting.  It gives as
good as dmidecode, at least in my case.




[gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case

2009-11-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com writes:


 As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case?

Aside from extreme laziness, I'd prefer to spend 2 seconds getting the
info than first pulling the machine out of some piled up mess of
several machines, then getting my beat up old body into some contorted
position where I can see inside, and finally just hoping I'll be able
to see something worthwhile that isn't covered with monstor Tuniq 120
cooler or some such.

So guess in short, it would be, aside from extreme
laziness extreme laziness...




Re: [gentoo-user] OO fails with useless 65280 error on unoxml

2009-11-30 Thread daid kahl
 Success on compiling OOo!

 I'm quite certain it was the ebuild, and that making it use the
 internal redland and not the system redland was the issue in my case.

Bing!

Now submitted a bug report: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295268

Regards,
daid



[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey 2.0 and certain sites not working.

2009-11-30 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:04:16 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
  On 11/29/2009 4:05 AM, Dale wrote:  

[snip]

Instead of attributions, all your posts have that chrome pseudo-URL.

 Ideas?

I think you have enough SeaMonkey troubles to connect to it to
news.mozilla.org and ask in the mozilla.support.seamonkey group.  It's
a peer support group like this list, but some developers also hang out
there.

-- 
»Q«
 Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-11-30 Thread »Q«
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:29:32 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 After all, how many people see the source code for Seamonkey,
 thousands, maybe million or more?  I don't think that many people can
 keep a secret like that.

While anyone who wants to *can* look at it, probably only a few dozen
actually look at very much of it.  But every bit of new code that's
checked in is reviewed by someone who's been working with Mozilla
stuff for a long while and has earned a reputation as a trusted
contributor.

-- 
»Q«
 Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.




[gentoo-user] kopete needs net-libs/ortp ??

2009-11-30 Thread Dale



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-11-30 Thread Dale

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

Dale wrote:
So, another question.  Is there a tool that is local and would do 
something like this?  I am using Seamonkey 2.0 nowadays.  It seems to 
have some tools available to it that the old Seamonkey doesn't.


Dale

:-)  :-)



There is a tool I've used in the past called PasswordMaker. It uses a 
master password and a flexible set of parameters to generate passwords 
and if necessary, enter them on a site.


It has a plugin for firefox and I believe seamonkey too. I can't check 
this second because their site appears to be down (bandwidth 
exceeded). It doesn't store the passwords anywhere and will only store 
the master password on your machine if you specifically ask for it.


Once you enter the master password and select the appropriate settings 
(length, character set, hashing algorithm etc etc), the password will 
be generated. You can also use the current website as a salt, so using 
the same settings will yield a different password for different sites.


Sounds like I'm advocating this very heavily, in fact I don't have 
much experience with it. It sounds reasonable to me, but I'll let you 
guys discuss it :)


Matt




I saw this on the plugin site.  I notice it generates passwords but I'm 
pretty good at that myself.  I doubt anyone would guess my password for 
my bank and credit card.  They are not based on anything, not birth 
dates, Social Security number, account number or anything like that.  I 
used to use a password that had some of the characters above the number 
keys but I got tired of typing all that mess in.  It may be more secure 
with them but the bank chose to block my password manager from filling 
them in automatically.  I changed it to something easier to type in.  
Also had a few rounds with the bank too.  The changes they made do not 
make anything more secure than it already was.  Several universities did 
studies and some of them said it made things worse by providing a false 
sense of security.


I did not notice that it had a fill in feature tho.  It may not work 
with my bank but I may try it since it appears to be a local thing and 
doesn't transmit anything to a third party.  Lastpass seems to do this.


Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey 2.0 and certain sites not working.

2009-11-30 Thread Dale

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:04:16 -0600
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
 

On 11/29/2009 4:05 AM, Dale wrote:
   

[snip]

Instead of attributions, all your posts have that chrome pseudo-URL.

   

Ideas?
 

I think you have enough SeaMonkey troubles to connect to it to
news.mozilla.org and ask in the mozilla.support.seamonkey group.  It's
a peer support group like this list, but some developers also hang out
there.

   


I'm thinking about going back to Seamonkey 1.  Just like KDE 4, it's 
just not quite ready for everyday use.  It works as far as what is 
supposed to be working but still has a few issues that need to be ironed 
out.  That chrome thingy is just one of them.  I was wondering about 
that thing tho.  I'm not real sure what that is all about.  I looked 
around the preferences but couldn't find any way to change the behavior.


I'm not sure about the certificate thing tho.  Since Konqueror also does 
it, it may not be the browser but the bank website and others.  I also 
went to a site last night that didn't work too.  I meant to make a not 
of that but forgot.  If it was just Seamonkey then I would agree 100%.  
Since Konqueror does it to, that deducts a few points from it being just 
Seamonkey.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!

2009-11-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 01 Dezember 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote:
 you guys are killing me -- the problem goes away when the ac cord is
 plugged in. I open files watch videos surf the web and so on -- no
 problems. I'm no expert, but that would seem to suggest that the fs is
 OK, no? I set this forth above. Did your eyes glaze over at that
 point?
 
 Roy Marples, who is a(the?) openrc developer, roped me into using git
 to do whatever git is supposed to do and now it's much worse.
 /dev/sd1 and 2 fail to mount as before PLUS many init services fail to
 start PLUS it no longer matters if the battery is being used or the ac
 cord: Chaos ensues, castles crumble, empires totter ...

well, now you know why he isn't a gentoo dev anymore :D

but seriously, Neil has a point. If your system demands a fsck on every boot 
something is very fishy.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass

2009-11-30 Thread Dale

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:29:32 -0600
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

After all, how many people see the source code for Seamonkey,
thousands, maybe million or more?  I don't think that many people can
keep a secret like that.
 

While anyone who wants to *can* look at it, probably only a few dozen
actually look at very much of it.  But every bit of new code that's
checked in is reviewed by someone who's been working with Mozilla
stuff for a long while and has earned a reputation as a trusted
contributor.

   


Which is why Lastpass needs to let someone outside see their code, sort 
of earn the peoples trust.  Even tho Seamonkey 2 has a few issues right 
now, I still trust it.  I am not worried that they are logging my 
keystrokes or anything like that.  Lastpass, as some have pointed out, 
could be doing just that.  We don't *really* know what they are doing 
other than what they claim.


I like the idea behind it but lack the trust, sort of like Alan I 
guess.  I wanted to use it but was not sure it was safe hence the thread 
about it.


Dale

:-)  :-)