Re: [gentoo-user] building pdftk (needs gcj)
On Monday 22 February 2010 05:28:14 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 21/02/10 Stroller said: It's using the old version of gcc, because you haven't told it to use the new version. The output you posted specifically told you to run: gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.4 source /etc/profile Ok, then shouldn't emerge have done that automatically, since it seemed to know that I needed gcj and to rebuild gcc before building pdftk? What's the point in continuing or pretending that the build process here is in any way automatic? Tad misleading. Not at all. It clearly told you just before that why it was not going to do it: You had already instructed the system to use a specific gcc and the system policy is that your explicit instructions override it's implicit defaults. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't see /dev/hda1,2,3 but I know they exist...
On 19 February 2010 20:43, Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 00:49 -0500, James Homuth wrote: I performed a bit of an update on my laptop a day or two ago, and after reboot, I lost the ability to do anything with /dev/hda*. I currently have 0 swap space, and according to stat, ls etc, they don't exist. But, booting to an install CD I burned for diagnostic purposes, it sees them just fine. Also, and this is the strange part. It boots no problem, so the OS is able to mount at least /dev/hda3, even though from the command line I'm not seeing it. I'm probably missing something completely dead obvious (it's after midnight here and all), and Google's turning up nothing, so if someone could kindly slap me in the face with it, that'd be appreciated. Thanks either way for whatever help comes my way. The first thing that jumps to my mind is you have an older initrd that has your HD drivers in it (such as ATA), but the newer kernel you've probably just built (is that what you mean by a bit of an update?) doesn't. Check for an initrd, and tell us what a bit of an update means :) You could also compare config files between your rescue CD and your system, if you can find it! HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Copy the live cd kernel to your machine and make it an option in grub and try booting that. Then at least you can stop chrooting and optical mounting. This will give us some information on if it is a kernel problem or not. Make sure to make modules_install If it's the kernel, check out kccmp to compare the kernel options between Live CD and the machine's kernel configuration after you dig up the configuration for the kernel on the Live CD. Other people are mentioning udev, and I wonder about this, too. Either before or after you check the kernel (whichever you decide is easier or seems better to you), can you chroot and rebuild udev through portage and also run a revdep-rebuild please? You said you updated, but it is not clear to me that the full update was proper. If you don't have revdep-rebuild, emerge the gentoolkit in the portage tree to get it, and check out the documentation to see what else it includes! ~daid
[gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
Hi there! The 2.1.x-Version of Skype seems to use pulseaudio if it finds a pulsaudio- deamon running, and doesn't allow to chose the audio device in this case. What I want to have is very simple: * Ringtone and any other sound produced by skype shall go to the internal sound device with loudspeakers connected * Audiostream for talking to someone shall go to the USB-Headset. How do I configure this? What I've tried so far: * pacmd shows skype as single client. I couldn't find a way to redirect it to the headset * I've installed padevchoser, but it only allows me to change the default device, and the setting seems to be ignored by skype. Thanks Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't see /dev/hda1,2,3 but I know they exist...
Other people are mentioning udev, and I wonder about this, too. Either before or after you check the kernel (whichever you decide is easier or seems better to you), can you chroot and rebuild udev through portage and also run a revdep-rebuild please? You said you updated, but it is not clear to me that the full update was proper. If you don't have revdep-rebuild, emerge the gentoolkit in the portage tree to get it, and check out the documentation to see what else it includes! ~daid Sorry. Also emerge --oneshot udev as well please. ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk
On 20 February 2010 05:34, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm currently rsyncing an OS (new gentoo install) from one vmware disk to a newly created one. you could dd it too, and then mount the new system and remove stuff in /proc and /dev you don't want. This could avoid any problems of your rsync options. Then in a chroot reinstall grub on the partition. I never tried this, but to my mind it should work, and it's faster than rsync. ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD
On 17 February 2010 06:27, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I thought SSDs were projected to last longer than HDs? Also, from what I've read, SLC should last much longer than MLC. It's the other way round: HD's last longer dan SSD's. [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Disadvantages Thanks for the link. I did some Googleing too and I'm really surprised at what I found. It sounds like SSDs don't have the projected longevity they did when I researched this a year or so ago. I'm troubled by the ever-lurking possibility of an HD failure and I thought SSDs would be my way out. Is an HD the best choice for reliability? - Grant As far as I know, solid state devices are much more susceptible to solar flare damage, particularly if you are outside. This is not exactly common, but hey. Of course I also have a theory that not an insignificant number of computer problems are caused by bit-flips from cosmic ray induced muon showers, but I digress... ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
Hi, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 15:38, Alexander Puchmayr alexander.puchm...@linznet.at wrote: The 2.1.x-Version of Skype seems to use pulseaudio if it finds a pulsaudio- deamon running, and doesn't allow to chose the audio device in this case. Yep, I noticed this recently as well, and was initially quite happy with this development :) What I want to have is very simple: * Ringtone and any other sound produced by skype shall go to the internal sound device with loudspeakers connected * Audiostream for talking to someone shall go to the USB-Headset. How do I configure this? This is indeed a problem. In the past I used the mic of my USB headset and the external speakers for calls, but now I can't get that configuration any longer. It's always using the crappy mic built-in to my laptop. I'll be very interested in the solution :) Thanks, Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 08:38 +0100, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Hi there! The 2.1.x-Version of Skype seems to use pulseaudio if it finds a pulsaudio- deamon running, and doesn't allow to chose the audio device in this case. What I want to have is very simple: * Ringtone and any other sound produced by skype shall go to the internal sound device with loudspeakers connected * Audiostream for talking to someone shall go to the USB-Headset. How do I configure this? What I've tried so far: * pacmd shows skype as single client. I couldn't find a way to redirect it to the headset * I've installed padevchoser, but it only allows me to change the default device, and the setting seems to be ignored by skype. Thanks Alex Did you try pavucontrol and select your input and output devices? -- David Abbott da...@pythontoo.com
Re: [gentoo-user] building pdftk (needs gcj)
On 22 February 2010 12:28, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: So, I need pdftk to build some documents, so I emerge it and it tells me that I need to update my USE flags and rebuild gcc with gcj support. So, I do. I added gcj to my global make.conf and ran the emerge, and gcc was rebuilt. Nope! You did NOT rebuild gcc. You installed a new version of gcc, as gcc is slotted an an update to the portage tree has occurred since your last install of gcc, and you did not specify to rebuild your installed version of gcc with emerge =gcc(version) On 21/02/10 Stroller said: It's using the old version of gcc, because you haven't told it to use the new version. The output you posted specifically told you to run: gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.4 source /etc/profile Ok, then shouldn't emerge have done that automatically, since it seemed to know that I needed gcj and to rebuild gcc before building pdftk? What's the point in continuing or pretending that the build process here is in any way automatic? Tad misleading. Mike -- Clearly I think this is the latter case of rtfm. And by read the fine manual, I mean read the emerge output you sent to me. gcc-config is very streamlined in this sense, it comes by default in Gentoo (as far as I know), and I've used plenty of machines without it, and it's very annoying to me to say the least. It even told you to do this. Did you want it to change you USE flags for you too? ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Portage profile override
On 21.02.2010 20:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: Does --tree show what is trying to pull it in? No. It does only say world or system. Some command outputs appended to clarify the problem. $ emerge -v -t -p -u -D world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB WARNING: A requested package will not be merged because it is listed in package.provided: sys-apps/busybox pulled in by 'world' This problem can be solved in one of the following ways: A) Use emaint to clean offending packages from world (if not installed). B) Uninstall offending packages (cleans them from world). C) Remove offending entries from package.provided. The best course of action depends on the reason that an offending package.provided entry exists. $ emerge -v -t -p -u -D system These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB WARNING: A requested package will not be merged because it is listed in package.provided: sys-apps/busybox pulled in by 'system' $ emerge --deselect sys-apps/busybox No matching atoms found in world favorites file... $ emaint -c all Checking world for problems Checking moveinst for problems Checking movebin for problems Checking binhost for problems Checking cleanresume for problems Finished $ cat /etc/portage/profile/packages -sys-apps/busybox $ cat /etc/portage/profile/package.provided sys-apps/openrc-0 mail-mta/ssmtp-9 dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1 sys-apps/busybox-1.16
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Portage profile override
On 21.02.2010 20:07, Paul Colquhoun wrote: Have you tried making an ebuild for 1.16 and putting it in /usr/local/portage directory? That way you won't be fighting with portage about what version to install. No. I'm fairly new to gentoo and the ebuild system. Currently I don't know much about creating ebuilds. Is there anywhere a specification of those ebuild files? ... but it wouldn't either be easy to create a special ebuild for my installation, because I don't do a normal busybox build/installation. I'm throwing in several source modifications to busybox and I do a completely different installation (e.g. naming and placement of the files in the destination system). In addition I'm trying and working with daily snapshots of busybox (from time to time).
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD
On 22 Feb 2010, at 07:54, daid kahl wrote: ... As far as I know, solid state devices are much more susceptible to solar flare damage, particularly if you are outside. This is not exactly common, but hey. Of course I also have a theory that not an insignificant number of computer problems are caused by bit-flips from cosmic ray induced muon showers, but I digress... I have recently decided to blame solar flares cosmic ray induced muon showers whenever one of my customers asks why their PC is broken. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] how to emerge mldonkey?
what should i do? i never got questioned when emerging something. emerge dev-lang/ocaml i already have dev-lang/ocaml-3.11.1 emerged. should i downgrade it to a lower version? -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?
On a more serious note, conf-update automatically merges trivial changes, so any configs you ran at the default, which is probably the majority, won't be flaged at all. so does cfg-update Every now and then, someone mentions cfg-update - usually you :) - and I give it another try, but I don't really get on with it and always go back to conf-update. There's nothing specific wrong with it, I just prefer (or am used to) conf-update. I expect that if I were still using etc-update or dispatch-conf I would welcome it with open arms though. Yay, thanks for the ideas. dispatch-conf was a welcome change from etc-update, so this must be the next step. And just in time too, I updated to ~x86 last week, and I left around the 11 config files that need more than just hand waving to deal with (looks like important changes, but I did modifications as well to those cases). You make me feel out of touch with Gentoo! Is dispatch-conf and etc-update that bad then? out of touch would be rolling your own config update tool, like me ;) It hasn't changed much since I started using Gentoo... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Sharing is caring! Can we try it? More importantly, would we want to? I'm wondering if some of these config manglers have configs themselves, or some place to keep track of the configs I want like red flagged to not get accidentially overwritten (sorry I didn't read the man pages yet because I didn't get too screwed without), because I want to keep track of the ones I edit other than some text file or my memory oh yeah, vim I hated the auto-line wrapping...where's that backup from last week? ~daid
[gentoo-user] Re: how to emerge mldonkey?
ok. problem solved. i downgraded the dev-lang/ocaml to 3.10.2, then run ocaml-rebuild.sh. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] building pdftk (needs gcj)
On 22 February 2010 18:51, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 February 2010 12:28, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: So, I need pdftk to build some documents, so I emerge it and it tells me that I need to update my USE flags and rebuild gcc with gcj support. So, I do. I added gcj to my global make.conf and ran the emerge, and gcc was rebuilt. [snip] Clearly I think this is the latter case of rtfm. And by read the fine manual, I mean read the emerge output you sent to me. [snip] ~daid Sorry, my conscience is getting the best of me, since in my mind sending rtfm to the user list is one of the biggest FUs and can only deter people from Gentoo. I also don't rtfm a lot of them time, although I try to do my own best before hitting the user list. But since the question has come up, I will go through the important points, which are short. Now gcc-config is a great tool. I have 6 gcc's installed, and I think I want another one once I'm not being overworked this week. I'm not saying you have use for more than one gcc yourself, but obviously you have a need for using gcc-config. So I find a gcc version I don't have installed as an example. d...@flux ~ $ emerge =gcc-4.4.2 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild NS ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.2 [3.4.6-r2, 4.1.2, 4.2.4-r1, 4.3.2-r3, 4.3.4, 4.4.3] USE=fortran gcj gtk mudflap multislot nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -doc (-fixed-point) -graphite (-hardened) (-libffi) (-multilib) (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla 61,459 kB Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 61,459 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] (please set EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ask --verbose in /etc/make.conf so this is your standard output) the part [ebuild ] tells you a lot of useful information. You should never ever emerge a package without pretend or ask on it in my opinion. Even when I did a world on ~x86 upgrade last week and it was 404 packages, I at least read every package name that was being installed to look for red flags and other things I might care about personally. Now in this case we see [ebuild NS ] which means it is New and Slotted. The slotted part is important, because it means that this action will not remove the old package, and now you will have at least two on the system. You need to run emerge --depclean to clean it, or unmerge it yourself manually. (By the way, can someone remind me if there is an easy way to keep depclean from cleaning gcc's? I kind of recall that explicitly listing them in world doesn't work, but for the most part I forget and just avoid depcleaning more than a few times a year.) If it was a rebuid as you said, then you'd have an R instead of and N. It also says 1 in new slot so please pretend/ask emerges and read what it says before continuing the emerge, again. For library access on gcc's, you don't need to change the compiler, (I need this for some janky binaries I have that are hardlinking to certain gcc libraries...ugh.) But if you want to *use* the compiler, you need to sudo gcc-config # source /etc/profile. Personally I don't use and I start typing source /etc/profile before gcc-config is done because it's faster. Get the # from gcc-config -l instead of typing the monstrosity portage suggested or evil of all evils, copy and pasting what portage told you to do blindly (although that's better than ignoring the advice or portage and complaining that portage is misleading because your results didn't work because you didn't follow what it said to do). Please never tell me ever again that the build process in portage is not automated (dude, you're installing source code with custom configs ... please consider Linux From Scratch) or that Gentoo has mislead anyone, unless like that actually somehow happens, which I highly doubt. Have you ever tried using other package managers? What about using them to build from source? On the topic but a rant, I wanted gcc-3.4.6 on Mac OS since sometimes I boot into Mac OS and proceed to rip the hair from my head. Please see the 20 month old bug I encountered trying to build a hardened gcc compiler, and also not that Mac OS does not ship with *any* form of Fortran compiler. Link: http://trac.macports.org/ticket/15838 Replies to the ticket (bugzilla) from people I can only pray are *not* developers, on a bug for the package gcc34: Why do you need gcc34? I do not know if it will be possible to make gcc 3.4 work on Leopard. gcc 3.4 is very old. It will probably be a better use of your time to update your software to work with gcc 4.3. For example the qemu port has been updated to work with gcc4 on Leopard on Intel. See its patches. As gcc34 does not compile on Tiger or Leopard, we should think about removing the port. Then they just talk about removing dependencies from macports to the package, but the package was *still there* like a
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD
On Monday 22 February 2010 12:57:27 Stroller wrote: On 22 Feb 2010, at 07:54, daid kahl wrote: ... As far as I know, solid state devices are much more susceptible to solar flare damage, particularly if you are outside. This is not exactly common, but hey. Of course I also have a theory that not an insignificant number of computer problems are caused by bit-flips from cosmic ray induced muon showers, but I digress... I have recently decided to blame solar flares cosmic ray induced muon showers whenever one of my customers asks why their PC is broken. Flavour of the moment here where I am: High energy gamma rays from quasars at the edge of the visible known universe produced when the universe was a mere 700 million years old. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 10:48:37 schrieb David Abbott: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 08:38 +0100, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Hi there! The 2.1.x-Version of Skype seems to use pulseaudio if it finds a pulsaudio- deamon running, and doesn't allow to chose the audio device in this case. What I want to have is very simple: * Ringtone and any other sound produced by skype shall go to the internal sound device with loudspeakers connected * Audiostream for talking to someone shall go to the USB-Headset. How do I configure this? What I've tried so far: * pacmd shows skype as single client. I couldn't find a way to redirect it to the headset * I've installed padevchoser, but it only allows me to change the default device, and the setting seems to be ignored by skype. Thanks Alex Did you try pavucontrol and select your input and output devices? Just tried this tool, but it seems to be a complete failure. Just gives a box with connection refused, but no information what it tries to connect to. The pulseaudio-deamon itself is running, and I can connect to it via pacmd without any problem. Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:57:27 +, Stroller wrote: I have recently decided to blame solar flares cosmic ray induced muon showers whenever one of my customers asks why their PC is broken. We are coming out of a long period of minimal solar activity with activity expected to hit a high peak in the next couple of years. It has already been predicted that this will affect GPS accuracy. So not only will you have a reason for the failure, you'll also have an excuse for turning up late to fix it :) -- Neil Bothwick Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?
On Montag 22 Februar 2010, daid kahl wrote: On a more serious note, conf-update automatically merges trivial changes, so any configs you ran at the default, which is probably the majority, won't be flaged at all. so does cfg-update Every now and then, someone mentions cfg-update - usually you :) - and I give it another try, but I don't really get on with it and always go back to conf-update. There's nothing specific wrong with it, I just prefer (or am used to) conf-update. I expect that if I were still using etc-update or dispatch-conf I would welcome it with open arms though. Yay, thanks for the ideas. dispatch-conf was a welcome change from etc-update, so this must be the next step. And just in time too, I updated to ~x86 last week, and I left around the 11 config files that need more than just hand waving to deal with (looks like important changes, but I did modifications as well to those cases). You make me feel out of touch with Gentoo! Is dispatch-conf and etc-update that bad then? out of touch would be rolling your own config update tool, like me ;) It hasn't changed much since I started using Gentoo... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Sharing is caring! Can we try it? More importantly, would we want to? I'm wondering if some of these config manglers have configs themselves, or some place to keep track of the configs I want like red flagged to not get accidentially overwritten (sorry I didn't read the man pages yet because I didn't get too screwed without), because I want to keep track of the ones I edit other than some text file or my memory oh yeah, vim I hated the auto-line wrapping...where's that backup from last week? ~daid well, cfg-update keeps a backup. It detects manual edits and try to resolve conflicts resulting from that automatically. Which works surprisingly well. If it can not resolve them itself, it opens a diff app you set in its config - like kdiff3, sdiff, beediff... etc. You do your changes, save, quit, cfg-update does the rest - and next time remembers what you did.
[gentoo-user] Re: Display on HDMI-connected TV to large
Sebastian Beßler sebastian at darkmetatron.de writes: Tried to fix it by underscaning but that doesn't help either. My TV always adaptes magically. You can try to play the the DisplaySize settings, which is what I used in a similar situation: example # DisplaySize 426 266 # width = (1680pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 427 -- 426 # hieght = (1050pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 267 -- 266 hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't see /dev/hda1,2,3 but I know they exist...
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:49:47AM -0500, James Homuth wrote: I performed a bit of an update on my laptop a day or two ago, and after reboot, I lost the ability to do anything with /dev/hda*. I currently have 0 swap space, and according to stat, ls etc, they don't exist. But, booting to an install CD I burned for diagnostic purposes, it sees them just fine. Also, and this is the strange part. It boots no problem, so the OS is able to mount at least /dev/hda3, even though from the command line I'm not seeing it. I'm probably missing something completely dead obvious (it's after midnight here and all), and Google's turning up nothing, so if someone could kindly slap me in the face with it, that'd be appreciated. Thanks either way for whatever help comes my way. Hi, I just had to restart my computer (power issues :( ) in the middle of an update (well, it was more like 'just before the end';) and after restart I have the same problem as you, no /dev/sd[ab]* files... My first guess was that I rebooted without updating the config files, so I ran etc-update (there were some udev config files as well as init script) and rebooted, but that didn't help. It is certainly not a problem with drivers not being in kernel, as the kernel sees the disks and partitions (see below), so I just run tail -n +3 /proc/partitions | while read maj min size name ; do mknod /dev/$name b $maj $min ; done /etc/init.d/localmount pause; /etc/init.d/localmount start to get everything mounted again... That means it will have to be an udev (or even openrc) problem. The last update of udev did in fact say this: * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED:should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2: should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_IDE: should not be set. But it is. * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. * Failure to do so may cause unexpected problems. * * udev-151 does not support Linux kernel before version 2.6.25! * For a reliable udev, use at least kernel 2.6.27 * Your kernel version (2.6.28-gentoo-r2) is new enough to run udev-151 reliably. I didn't want to mess with the kernel right now, but I gues that's the first thing to try... I'll report when I rebuild reboot... yoyo === Kernel can see the partitions just fine: julka dev # cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name 70 512000 loop0 80 199148544 sda 81 18940603 sda1 82 32218357 sda2 832152710 sda3 84 1 sda4 85 145830006 sda5 8 16 312571224 sdb 8 17 312568641 sdb1 julka dev # ls /sys/block/ hda/ loop1/ loop3/ loop5/ loop7/ ram1/ ram11/ ram13/ ram15/ ram3/ ram5/ ram7/ ram9/ sdb/ loop0/ loop2/ loop4/ loop6/ ram0/ ram10/ ram12/ ram14/ ram2/ ram4/ ram6/ ram8/ sda/ julka dev # ls /sys/block/sd* /sys/block/sda: bdi dev ext_range power range rosda2 sda4 sizestat uevent capability device holdersqueue removable sda1 sda3 sda5 slaves subsystem /sys/block/sdb: bdi capability dev device ext_range holders power queue range removable ro sdb1 size slaves stat subsystem uevent -- _ | YoYo () Siska === http://www.ksp.sk/
Re: [gentoo-user] no libdri.so with ati-drivers-10.1
On 02/20/10 04:03, Keith Dart wrote: === On Sat, 02/20, Adam wrote: === So, any ideas or should i issue a bug report? === Yes, use the open source drivers: x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati This can't universally be the answer. I have been forced to upgrade from ati-drivers-9.11 (due to being stuck at xorg-server-1.6.5) to xf86-video-ati-6.12.4, however I have yet to find a successful xorg.conf configuration that will give me *dual-screen*, (not single screen, dual monitor), setup that I had working with flgrx. I would really like to stay with the opensource radeonhd driver, but it looks like I have to give up dual-screen (:0.0, :0.1 setup) which I prefer for Gnome. So it would nice to still have a working ati-drivers setup until xf86-video-ati does it all. Anthony
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Display on HDMI-connected TV to large
Am Montag, 22. Februar 2010 15:48:53 schrieb James: Sebastian Beßler sebastian at darkmetatron.de writes: Tried to fix it by underscaning but that doesn't help either. My TV always adaptes magically. You can try to play the the DisplaySize settings, which is what I used in a similar situation: I tried that before without luck. After some deep thinking I remember that I used some command to center the picture on my TV when I was using fglrx. I can't remember which command and dumb as I are sometimes deleted the script that issued this command every reboot. All I remember is that it sets some coordinats to 0,0 I have for now abandoned the HDMI cable and connect the TV via VGA cable and use the PC setting of my TV. I will look again into this if I find some sparetime in the future. For now other things have higher priority. But thanks to all for your effords Greetings Sebastian Beßler
[gentoo-user] Re: [X11] radeonhd not working
Andrey Vul andrey.vul at gmail.com writes: Firmware installed, I still get this: (EE) RADEONHD(0): [dri] CP_INIT failed (EE) RADEONHD(0): RHDDRIFinishScreenInit: RHDDRIKernelInit Failed. Just a shot in the dark, but make sure you have the latest pciids on the system: /usr/sbin/update-pciids updates list of pci device numbers
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 10:48:37 schrieb David Abbott: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 08:38 +0100, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Hi there! The 2.1.x-Version of Skype seems to use pulseaudio if it finds a pulsaudio- deamon running, and doesn't allow to chose the audio device in this case. What I want to have is very simple: * Ringtone and any other sound produced by skype shall go to the internal sound device with loudspeakers connected * Audiostream for talking to someone shall go to the USB-Headset. How do I configure this? What I've tried so far: * pacmd shows skype as single client. I couldn't find a way to redirect it to the headset * I've installed padevchoser, but it only allows me to change the default device, and the setting seems to be ignored by skype. Thanks Alex Did you try pavucontrol and select your input and output devices? Just tried this tool, but it seems to be a complete failure. Just gives a box with connection refused, but no information what it tries to connect to. The pulseaudio-deamon itself is running, and I can connect to it via pacmd without any problem. Alex I don't use it system wide, here are the guides I used; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789181-highlight-pulseaudio.html http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup HTH
Re: [gentoo-user] Sandbox violation emerging media-gfx/dcraw-8.73
On 2/22/10, John H. Moe john...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From the looks of things, it's trying to install a file directly to the filesystem outside the /var/tmp sandbox. I believe this is a bug that needs reporting, but before I did that, I thought I'd check to be sure it wasn't something I was doing wrong. Can can someone more knowledgeable than me advise? Could it be bug #306177? Looks a lot like your case. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306177 -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't see /dev/hda1,2,3 but I know they exist...
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 04:13:40PM +0100, YoYo siska wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:49:47AM -0500, James Homuth wrote: I performed a bit of an update on my laptop a day or two ago, and after reboot, I lost the ability to do anything with /dev/hda*. I currently have 0 swap space, and according to stat, ls etc, they don't exist. But, booting to an install CD I burned for diagnostic purposes, it sees them just fine. Also, and this is the strange part. It boots no problem, so the OS is able to mount at least /dev/hda3, even though from the command line I'm not seeing it. I'm probably missing something completely dead obvious (it's after midnight here and all), and Google's turning up nothing, so if someone could kindly slap me in the face with it, that'd be appreciated. Thanks either way for whatever help comes my way. Hi, I just had to restart my computer (power issues :( ) in the middle of an update (well, it was more like 'just before the end';) and after restart I have the same problem as you, no /dev/sd[ab]* files... My first guess was that I rebooted without updating the config files, so I ran etc-update (there were some udev config files as well as init script) and rebooted, but that didn't help. It is certainly not a problem with drivers not being in kernel, as the kernel sees the disks and partitions (see below), so I just run tail -n +3 /proc/partitions | while read maj min size name ; do mknod /dev/$name b $maj $min ; done /etc/init.d/localmount pause; /etc/init.d/localmount start to get everything mounted again... That means it will have to be an udev (or even openrc) problem. The last update of udev did in fact say this: * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED:should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2: should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_IDE: should not be set. But it is. * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. * Failure to do so may cause unexpected problems. * * udev-151 does not support Linux kernel before version 2.6.25! * For a reliable udev, use at least kernel 2.6.27 * Your kernel version (2.6.28-gentoo-r2) is new enough to run udev-151 reliably. I didn't want to mess with the kernel right now, but I gues that's the first thing to try... I'll report when I rebuild reboot... yop, that was it though you wrote about /dev/hda*, which means you should be a bit more carefull if you used the IDE drivers (under ATA/ATAPI/ support, thats the CONFIG_IDE option) and disabled the CONFIG_IDE options, you have to enable it under Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers (CONFIG_ATA) and also your device might get renamed to sd* instead of hd* (I don't know, I have only a cdrom, that becomes sr0 ;) But I think that the real problem was with those SYSFS_DEPRECATED options, so you might be able to get things working with just disabling those and leaving IDE as it was... btw, I found this bug afterwards: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302173 yoyo
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3 and Kconvert
On Sunday 21 February 2010 18:53:00 Dale wrote: So, Seamonkey 1 isn't usable and Seamonkey 2 has a few bugs up its but too. KDE is about the same. Perhaps KDE itself is for you, but I've been using kmail for years without any real problems. Well, earlier versions would sometimes corrupt their indices, but that was easily fixed. Recommended. -- Rgds Peter.
[gentoo-user] kde4 panelbar recovery
Hello, I accidentally removed my panelbar (jargon?) across the bottom my my kde 4.3.3 screen. Googling has produced a wealth (of not what I need to know) minutia. So, how do I recover the kde panel bar across the bottom my my screen. The closest answer I found was remove the ~user/.kde4 dir and log back in, but that seems harsh..? ideas? James
[gentoo-user] any advantage to dbus or hal on minimal system
On a non-x system, is there any advantage to having dbus and hal installed? I'm bring a formally X enabled system down to a hardcore console only log server. Don't now enough about either hal or dbus to know if they need to be removed?
Re: [gentoo-user] kde4 panelbar recovery
On Monday 22 February 2010, James wrote: |Hello, | |I accidentally removed my panelbar (jargon?) across the bottom my my |kde 4.3.3 screen. | | |Googling has produced a wealth (of not what I need to know) |minutia. | | |So, how do I recover the kde panel bar across the bottom my |my screen. | | |The closest answer I found was remove the ~user/.kde4 dir |and log back in, but that seems harsh..? | | |ideas? | | | |James Right click on the desktop and choose add panel. This should give you an empty panel. To fill it with widgets, click on the plasma symbol at right end of the panel, choose add widgets and insert the widgets you want. I hope this helps Stefano
[gentoo-user] Re: How should I clean up my broken system?
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: well, cfg-update keeps a backup. It detects manual edits and try to resolve conflicts resulting from that automatically. Which works surprisingly well. If Volker gave me that same advice long ago, I've used cfg-update ever since. Its capable of dispatching meaningless file updates in the blink of an eye, and offers several well known methods for resolving those that need it. I personally use vimdiff with it, but there are several other options. Its just a good solid tool.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sansa Clip+
Alan McKinnon wrote: what is the output from dmesg? I have the Sansa Clip + in MSC mode, though have tried the other two modes. The tail end of my last few connects, and disconnects. Not sure of how much to include. [16243.196854] usb 3-3.2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 [16248.196977] usb 3-3.2: khubd timed out on ep0in len=0/64 [16253.197094] usb 3-3.2: khubd timed out on ep0in len=0/64 [16258.196213] usb 3-3.2: khubd timed out on ep0in len=0/64 [16258.262213] usb 3-3.2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [16258.521154] ohci_hcd :01:00.1: urb 88023a512b40 path 3.2 ep0in 5fd6 cc 5 -- status -62 [16258.524141] ohci_hcd :01:00.1: urb 88023a512b40 path 3.2 ep0in 5ec2 cc 5 -- status -62 [16258.527141] ohci_hcd :01:00.1: urb 88023a512b40 path 3.2 ep0in 5ec2 cc 5 -- status -62 [16258.546169] hub 3-3:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 [16258.549198] hub 3-3:1.0: state 7 ports 4 chg evt 0004 [16258.555149] hub 3-3:1.0: port 2, status 0100, change 0001, 12 Mb/s [16258.758118] hub 3-3:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 175ms stable 100ms status 0x100 [16260.159893] hub 3-3:1.0: state 7 ports 4 chg evt 0004 [16260.164996] hub 3-3:1.0: port 2, status 0101, change 0001, 12 Mb/s [16260.278845] hub 3-3:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x101 [16260.345831] usb 3-3.2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7 [16265.345960] usb 3-3.2: khubd timed out on ep0in len=0/64 [16270.345081] usb 3-3.2: khubd timed out on ep0in len=0/64 [16275.345208] usb 3-3.2: khubd timed out on ep0in len=0/64 [16275.411186] usb 3-3.2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [16275.658149] ohci_hcd :01:00.1: urb 88017cd349c0 path 3.2 ep0in 5fd6 cc 5 -- status -62 [16275.661133] ohci_hcd :01:00.1: urb 88017cd349c0 path 3.2 ep0in 5ec2 cc 5 -- status -62 [16275.664130] ohci_hcd :01:00.1: urb 88017cd349c0 path 3.2 ep0in 5ec2 cc 5 -- status -62 [16275.683163] hub 3-3:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 [16275.686154] hub 3-3:1.0: state 7 ports 4 chg evt 0004 [16275.692136] hub 3-3:1.0: port 2, status 0100, change 0001, 12 Mb/s [16275.894652] hub 3-3:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 175ms stable 100ms status 0x100 [16275.894660] hub 3-3:1.0: state 7 ports 4 chg evt 0004 [16277.276874] hub 3-3:1.0: state 7 ports 4 chg evt 0004 [16277.287223] hub 3-3:1.0: port 2, status 0101, change 0001, 12 Mb/s [16277.431845] hub 3-3:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 125ms stable 100ms status 0x101 [16277.498836] usb 3-3.2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 8 tardis sean
Re: [gentoo-user] Sansa Clip+
Damian wrote: Did you enable USB in your kernel? Sure did, USB memory sticks work fine, and I believe they work on the same principal as the Clip+. I attached dmesg output into another reply.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3 and Kconvert
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Sunday 21 February 2010 18:53:00 Dale wrote: So, Seamonkey 1 isn't usable and Seamonkey 2 has a few bugs up its but too. KDE is about the same. Perhaps KDE itself is for you, but I've been using kmail for years without any real problems. Well, earlier versions would sometimes corrupt their indices, but that was easily fixed. Recommended. I used Kmail at first but just didn't like it very much. It's been a while so I can't recall exactly what it was. I also like having one program handling my web browsing and email. I have considered switching to Thunderbird and Firefox tho. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: kde4 panelbar recovery
Stefano Crocco stefano.crocco at alice.it writes: Right click on the desktop and choose add panel. This should give you an empty panel. To fill it with widgets, click on the plasma symbol at right end of the panel, choose add widgets and insert the widgets you want. I hope this helps This does not restore the previous panel. Any ideas on that? If not possible to restore the previous panel, how to move a new one to the bottom? James
Re: [gentoo-user] any advantage to dbus or hal on minimal system
Harry Putnam schrieb: On a non-x system, is there any advantage to having dbus and hal installed? I'm bring a formally X enabled system down to a hardcore console only log server. Don't now enough about either hal or dbus to know if they need to be removed? My server (ssh, apache, tomcat, syslog-ng, djbdns, openvpn) doesn't need it. hal might come in handy if you want to use hardware switches like the power button but acpid might be enough for this. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: kde4 panelbar recovery
On 02/22/2010 09:03 PM, James wrote: Stefano Croccostefano.croccoat alice.it writes: Right click on the desktop and choose add panel. This should give you an empty panel. To fill it with widgets, click on the plasma symbol at right end of the panel, choose add widgets and insert the widgets you want. I hope this helps This does not restore the previous panel. Any ideas on that? If not possible to restore the previous panel, how to move a new one to the bottom? With the mouse. You might want to delete your ~/.kde4 folder instead to get back at the defaults. Keep the stuff you want though (like settings for other programs, like Amarok, Kopete, etc.)
[gentoo-user] Re: kde4 panelbar recovery
Nikos Chantziaras realnc at arcor.de writes: With the mouse. Must be something wrong. These panels that fire up are disfunctional. Cant move add or delete too them You might want to delete your ~/.kde4 folder instead to get back at the defaults. Keep the stuff you want though (like settings for other programs, like Amarok, Kopete, etc.) It seems really stupid there is not way to recover kicker and such without deleting the entire folder. More kde4 snafus I found lots of evidence where folks had done the exact same thing, with no simple recovery... Very disappointed in KDE4.again This recovery in kde3 was simple. thx, James
Re: [gentoo-user] any advantage to dbus or hal on minimal system
On 22.02.2010 18:03, Harry Putnam wrote: On a non-x system, is there any advantage to having dbus and hal installed? I don't of any console based service that realy needs dbus or hal. Don't think that a log server needs them. Espessially if you disable dbus and hal in the use flags and do a recompilation of the system.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde4 panelbar recovery
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 07:19:41PM +, James wrote: Nikos Chantziaras realnc at arcor.de writes: With the mouse. Must be something wrong. These panels that fire up are disfunctional. Cant move add or delete too them Lock/Unlock widgets in the context menu? Btw you can fire up add applets on the desktop and drag them to a panel.. doesn't really make a difference ;) You might want to delete your ~/.kde4 folder instead to get back at the defaults. Keep the stuff you want though (like settings for other programs, like Amarok, Kopete, etc.) It seems really stupid there is not way to recover kicker and such without deleting the entire folder. More kde4 snafus I found lots of evidence where folks had done the exact same thing, with no simple recovery... Very disappointed in KDE4.again This recovery in kde3 was simple. Panel and desktop settings are in .kde/share/config/plasma* files removing just them (ideally when logged out of kde) should bring the default desktop/panels back.. theoretically plasma-desktop-appletsrc should be enough to delete... Don't see how different from kde3 this is.. if you messed up your kicker configuration you had to either delete it, or rebuild the panel (create it, place it at the correct position, add correct applets...) (well, the only difference is that desktop and panel were separate programs...) yoyo
Re: [gentoo-user] Sandbox violation emerging media-gfx/dcraw-8.73
Arttu V. wrote: On 2/22/10, John H. Moe john...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From the looks of things, it's trying to install a file directly to the filesystem outside the /var/tmp sandbox. I believe this is a bug that needs reporting, but before I did that, I thought I'd check to be sure it wasn't something I was doing wrong. Can can someone more knowledgeable than me advise? Could it be bug #306177? Looks a lot like your case. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306177 Perfect, thank you. :-) I had searched bugs.gentoo.org before, but obviously not thoroughly enough... John Moe
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3 and Kconvert
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:11:53PM -0600, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Sunday 21 February 2010 18:53:00 Dale wrote: So, Seamonkey 1 isn't usable and Seamonkey 2 has a few bugs up its but too. KDE is about the same. Perhaps KDE itself is for you, but I've been using kmail for years without any real problems. Well, earlier versions would sometimes corrupt their indices, but that was easily fixed. Recommended. I used Kmail at first but just didn't like it very much. It's been a while so I can't recall exactly what it was. I also like having one program handling my web browsing and email. I have considered switching to Thunderbird and Firefox tho. Dale :-) :-) Well Opera offers that functionality, you have your email in a side bar :-) Although it's very much in denial about digitally signing/encrypting mails, but as long as that's not an issue, it's very good at what it does. -- Zeerak Waseem pgpZ6IFFP1IDc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde4 panelbar recovery
On Montag 22 Februar 2010, James wrote: Nikos Chantziaras realnc at arcor.de writes: With the mouse. Must be something wrong. These panels that fire up are disfunctional. Cant move add or delete too them You might want to delete your ~/.kde4 folder instead to get back at the defaults. Keep the stuff you want though (like settings for other programs, like Amarok, Kopete, etc.) It seems really stupid there is not way to recover kicker and such without deleting the entire folder. just remove plamsarc or plasmadesktoprc More kde4 snafus I found lots of evidence where folks had done the exact same thing, with no simple recovery... well, add panel, adding widgets did it for me.
Re: [gentoo-user] no libdri.so with ati-drivers-10.1
Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 16:17:06 schrieb Anthony Mutiso: I would really like to stay with the opensource radeonhd driver, but it looks like I have to give up dual-screen (:0.0, :0.1 setup) which I prefer for Gnome. So it would nice to still have a working ati-drivers setup until xf86-video-ati does it all. Much luck for that. I had spent a lot of time to get that working and now I use Xrandr ;-) xf86-video-ati has better support for that then radeonhd but with both is always the risk that it stops working after an update. Oh and dual-head (first and foremost with open drivers) is broken with xorg- server bigger 1.4 and smaller 1.7 Xrandr is no the new black and with that support for dual-screen layout is not much supported and very low priorised. There was/is a discussion running on the x11-mailinglist over that topic. The core content from that is bury the old style, prefer xrandr, let the WM or DE handle the rest. Xrandr isn't that bad but its not mature enough. There is much to do on protocol side and on WM/DE side. Greetings
Re: [gentoo-user] any advantage to dbus or hal on minimal system
Harry Putnam wrote: On a non-x system, is there any advantage to having dbus and hal installed? I'm bring a formally X enabled system down to a hardcore console only log server. Don't now enough about either hal or dbus to know if they need to be removed? They are totally redundant. Be lucky, Neil http://www.neiljw.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't see /dev/hda1,2,3 but I know they exist...
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 17:37 +0100, YoYo siska wrote: yop, that was it though you wrote about /dev/hda*, which means you should be a bit more carefull if you used the IDE drivers (under ATA/ATAPI/ support, thats the CONFIG_IDE option) and disabled the CONFIG_IDE options, you have to enable it under Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers (CONFIG_ATA) and also your device might get renamed to sd* instead of hd* (I don't know, I have only a cdrom, that becomes sr0 ;) yep, switch from CONFIG_IDE to Parallel ATA. And the drives will be changed from hda to sda, so be prepared with a boot disk to change fstab. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The best diplomat I know is a fully activated phaser bank. -- Scotty
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype pulseaudio
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 11:42 -0500, David wrote: Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 10:48:37 schrieb David Abbott: Just tried this tool, but it seems to be a complete failure. Just gives a box with connection refused, but no information what it tries to connect to. The pulseaudio-deamon itself is running, and I can connect to it via pacmd without any problem. Alex I don't use it system wide, here are the guides I used; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789181-highlight-pulseaudio.html http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup agreed, try and solve the pulseaudio problems first by looking at the tips on those guides. Also you might find this useful: http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/2009/09/some_explanations.html -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Salesman: Hello, Mr. and Mrs. Griffin. Now, I know you've been here all day, so if you'll just sign this contract without reading it I'll take your blank check, and you won't not be not loving your time-share before you know it.
[gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in X11. I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with. I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Stroller.
