Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using gnash?

2012-02-21 Thread Stroller

On 20 February 2012, at 18:14, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
 ...
 I tried it some months ago, it didn't work with Youtube and I left it.

Last time I used it it worked on most major porn sites plus Youtube.

http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/ptvtc/gnash_0810_released_a_free_software_replacement/c3s7hlj?context=9

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnupg: can't use keyservers

2012-02-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 20.02.2012 21:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 2012-02-20 21:21, schrieb Mick:
 
 I just tried it again and it works from here.  I can see 7 keys on
 that server.

 Covering all bases and just in case, you're not trying to connect
 behind some firewall/gateway that is blocking all but http/https
 packets?
 
 Nope.
 
 Have you checked if you can ping the server?
 
 Yes, sir! ;-)
 
 My gpg version is:

 app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.17(09:22:32 02/20/11)(bzip2 ldap nls -adns
 -caps -doc - openct -pcsc-lite -selinux -smartcard -static)
 
 2.0.18 there, ~amd64
 
 As mentioned, I will have access again tomorrow. On my thinkpad,
 ~amd64 as well, it works right now ...

more info:

~ $ /usr/bin/gpg2 --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2
--keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --send-keys 0x295CB83D55D0FCE6
gpg: sende Schlüssel 55D0FCE6 auf den hkp-Server subkeys.pgp.net
: can't connect to `subkeys.pgp.net': host not found
gpgkeys: HTTP post error 7: couldn't connect: Not found
gpg: interner Fehler Schlüsselserver
gpg: Senden an Schlüsselserver fehlgeschlagen: Schlüsselserverfehler

~ $ ping subkeys.pgp.net
PING subkeys.pgp.net (173.164.61.44) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from noc.nayr.net (173.164.61.44): icmp_req=1 ttl=52 time=177 ms
64 bytes from noc.nayr.net (173.164.61.44): icmp_req=2 ttl=52 time=180 ms
^C

---

app-crypt/gnupg

Installed versions:  2.0.18(20:05:24 13.02.2012)(bzip2 nls readline
static usb -adns -doc -ldap -selinux -smartcard)




Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: gnupg: can't use keyservers

2012-02-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger


removed USE-flag static, rebuilt gnupg, restarted gpg-agent and used
keyserver pgp.mit.edu.

Works now.

Thanks, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-shell behavior

2012-02-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 20.02.2012 21:23, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 2012-02-20 19:29, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 
 What does ~/.xsession-errors says?
 
 checked that already, I didn't see anything obvious in there (at least
 for ME) ... will check back tomorrow, I am not at the particular machine
 right now.

triggered the behavior right now.

- .xsession-errors (some strings in german, yes)

gnome-shell-calendar-server[5994]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting
gnome-session[5865]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed
by signal
** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
(gnome-shell:8944): folks-DEBUG: individual-aggregator.vala:310: Setting
primary store IDs to defaults.
(gnome-shell:8944): folks-DEBUG: individual-aggregator.vala:338: Primary
store IDs are 'eds' and 'system'.
  JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Tue Feb 21 2012 17:00:37 GMT+0100 (CET)
Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve
system settings properties: (25) Launch helper exited with unknown
return code 1.
** Message: applet now embedded in the notification area
Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: fetch_connections_done: error
fetching connections: (25) Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1.
Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: nm_client_get_devices: error
getting devices: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1

  JS LOG: NetworkManager is not running, hiding...



[gentoo-user] Re: A systemd-only Gentoo system

2012-02-21 Thread James
Canek Peláez Valdés caneko at gmail.com writes:


 Hi; I've been running systemd in Gentoo since September from 2010, and
 it works great for me: all my machines run it at this point.


Well, I'm curious.

How well does systemd work with uClibc based systems? More 
specifically does systemd work well with embedded linux systems?

How does systemd work with a system that uses SElinux?

How well does a group of (systemd) systems work
with a wide deployment of a distributed file system,
such as BTRFS?


Just curious if you know about any of these areas related
to systemd.

James




[gentoo-user] Re: Looking for IMAP-IMAP spam filtering

2012-02-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-02-21, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:

 Okay, I may have misunderstood your needs the first time around
 (blame it to not having my first cuppa tea of the day).

 So, you want to do these steps:
 - Pull email from an IMAP account in box A
 - Filter it in box B
 - Push it to box C

Skip the box B part.  Pull an e-mail from IMAP mailbox A, filter it,
then either discard it or append it to IMAP mailbox C (with A and C
possibly on different servers).

 So, the third step is not an LDA.

Right.  Nothing's local except the filtering.

 There are some alternatives, none of them are simple, though. The
 'easiest' I think would be:

 - have fetchmail (on box B) pull email from box A, and deliver to local
   maildir (on B) via procmail+SA

 - have Dovecot watch the local maildir

 - have *another* fetchmail instance pull email from the local Dovecot and
   push it to an SMTP MTA on box C

If I'm going to use the SMTP server on box C, then I don't think
there's a need for the intermediate maildir stop, since I can have
procmail pipe the message to something like msmtp to deliver it to the
SMTP server.  There are a couple problem with using the SMTP server.
The first is that you can't specify a mailbox.  The big problem is
that the SMTP server may rewrite headers. For example, if it's gmail's
SMTP server, it will always muck up the From: header so the message
appars to be from the account that was used to log in to the SMTP
server (you loose the original From: header). Using the IMAP server
allows you to store a message an any folder you want and the headers
are unchanged.

 You can have multiple fetchmail daemons running at the same time by
 copying/symlinking the fetchmail initscript and creating a
 correspondent conf file. I've submitted a patch (that has been
 accepted into the tree) that allows multiple fetchmail daemons.

I think it would be simpler to write an LDA that delivers a message to
an IMAP mailbox and have procmail pipe messages to that for delivery.
It should only take a couple dozen lines of Python... (famous last words)

-- 
Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! But was he mature
  at   enough last night at the
  gmail.comlesbian masquerade?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A systemd-only Gentoo system

2012-02-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Canek Peláez Valdés caneko at gmail.com writes:


 Hi; I've been running systemd in Gentoo since September from 2010, and
 it works great for me: all my machines run it at this point.


 Well, I'm curious.

 How well does systemd work with uClibc based systems? More
 specifically does systemd work well with embedded linux systems?

I don't know first hand: I use systemd in my desktop and laptop
machines, a media center, and a couple of servers. However, ProFUSION
(http://profusion.mobi/) is a company specialized in embedded systems,
and they are huge supporters (and contributors) of systemd. I hear the
embedded guys in general  like a lot the idea of systemd.

 How does systemd work with a system that uses SElinux?

I don't use SELinux: however, the first distribution that shipped
systemd by default (Fedora) uses SELinux also by default, so I would
*think* it  works. But again, I don't use it.

 How well does a group of (systemd) systems work
 with a wide deployment of a distributed file system,
 such as BTRFS?

No idea. I personally use ext4, and I'm not looking forward to move my
systems to btrfs.

 Just curious if you know about any of these areas related
 to systemd.

Not really; I think my use cases are pretty simple and common.

But if you are interested in systemd, I think you should try it first
in simple setups, and certainly as provided by the Gentoo devs. My
overlay is for people like me, who already use systemd (in quite
common setups), and who would like to experiment a system without
OpenRC just for the fun of trying something new, inestable, and
potentially dangerous.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-shell behavior

2012-02-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
 Am 20.02.2012 21:23, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 2012-02-20 19:29, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:

 What does ~/.xsession-errors says?

 checked that already, I didn't see anything obvious in there (at least
 for ME) ... will check back tomorrow, I am not at the particular machine
 right now.

 triggered the behavior right now.

 - .xsession-errors (some strings in german, yes)

 gnome-shell-calendar-server[5994]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting
 gnome-session[5865]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed
 by signal
 ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
 (gnome-shell:8944): folks-DEBUG: individual-aggregator.vala:310: Setting
 primary store IDs to defaults.
 (gnome-shell:8944): folks-DEBUG: individual-aggregator.vala:338: Primary
 store IDs are 'eds' and 'system'.
      JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Tue Feb 21 2012 17:00:37 GMT+0100 (CET)
 Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve
 system settings properties: (25) Launch helper exited with unknown
 return code 1.
 ** Message: applet now embedded in the notification area
 Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: fetch_connections_done: error
 fetching connections: (25) Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1.
 Fensterverwalter-Warnung:Log level 16: nm_client_get_devices: error
 getting devices: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1

      JS LOG: NetworkManager is not running, hiding...


It looks like gnome-shell-calendar-server got a HUP signal. Do you use
Evolution's calendar thingy? Did you set up the online accounts of
GNOME 3 with Google calendar?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



[gentoo-user] Re: A systemd-only Gentoo system

2012-02-21 Thread James
Canek Peláez Valdés caneko at gmail.com writes:


 But if you are interested in systemd, I think you should try it first
 in simple setups, and certainly as provided by the Gentoo devs. 

I'll keep an eye on systemd and keep reading up on it. I like what
I read so maybe I'll give it a test drive, when I get some time.

thanks,
James








Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-21 Thread Grant
 Has anyone set up lightdm?  I'm using it with the default config file
 but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log.  gdm works fine.
  Any ideas?

 I'm not using lightdm, but my understanding is that it's as minimalist
 as you can get while still technically using a display manager. Check
 into its configuration in /etc/config, etc. Find out exactly what it's
 using (launching) for an xinitrc.

 Also check out ~/.X*, and see if there are any user-local errors or logs of 
 use.

 Thanks, got it working by recompiling udev as mentioned in the last
 comment here:

 http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org/2011/09/18/lightdm-on-gentoo-artwork-needed/

 - Grant

It stopped working.  I have the same problem described here:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395327

It hangs with this from /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log:

DEBUG: Waiting for ready signal from X server :0

It does this on 2 of my systems but succeeds on the other.  The next
lines on the successful system are:

DEBUG: Acquired bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager
DEBUG: Registering seat with bus path /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0

The fix described in the bug is to add dbus to use in /etc/init.d/xdm
but dbus is already in there.  dbus is currently started on all 3
systems.  Any ideas?

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Overlays - mask everything except a specific package?

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I'm looking for a ways to:

1) List all contents of a specific overlay including version numbers.

2) Mask everything in an overlay except exactly what I actually want installed.

   Anyone know how to do this?

   For instance, I use the init6 overlay to get handbrake but I don't
want to use nvidia-drivers  nvidia-settings from the init6 overlay
even if their version numbers are higher.

   Clearly, I can play with masking specific package revisions, but
that's a lot of work and doesn't clearly say where I get a package
when the version numbers are identical.

Thanks,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: Amazon Streaming broken, need hal-0.5.14-gentoo-patches-5.tar.bz2

2012-02-21 Thread Grant
 Amazon Streaming is broken and installing hal fixes it according to
 the following thread:

 http://www.amazon.com/forum/amazon%20video%20on%20demand?_encoding=UTF8cdForum=Fx3EQAX98ED5WQ3cdPage=1cdSort=newestcdThread=TxFTGOK5LRL3JM

 I added the layman overlays multilib and kde-sunset in order to
 install hal, but the emerge fails because it can't download
 hal-0.5.14-gentoo-patches-5.tar.bz2.  The following thread provides a
 few links to this file but they no longer work, and I tried
 downloading hal-0.5.14-gentoo-patches-4.tar.bz2, extracting, adding
 the missing file as indicated, and recreating the bz2 tar archive, but
 there is a checksum failure with that file:

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-906838-start-0.html

 Does anyone have advice for navigating this?

 - Grant

 I was able to install hal via the kde-sunset overlay instead of the
 multilib overlay.  Now instead of the Updating Player error, flash
 crashes like this in firefox and chrome:

 chrome[3681]: segfault at 18 ip 7f677543202c sp 7f6764804e00
 error 4 in libdbus-1.so.3.5.8[7f6775422000+3e000]

 plugin-containe[3727]: segfault at 18 ip 7fd0225d502c sp
 7fd0118bce00 error 4 in libdbus-1.so.3.5.8[7fd0225c5000+3e000]

 I re-emerged dbus to no avail.  Any ideas?

 - Grant

It's working!  I had forgotten to start hald.  Now all of the videos
on Amazon Prime are working.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Amazon Streaming broken, need hal-0.5.14-gentoo-patches-5.tar.bz2

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

 It's working!  I had forgotten to start hald.  Now all of the videos
 on Amazon Prime are working.

 - Grant


Congrats, and thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-21 Thread Grant
 Has anyone set up lightdm?  I'm using it with the default config file
 but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log.  gdm works fine.
  Any ideas?

 I'm not using lightdm, but my understanding is that it's as minimalist
 as you can get while still technically using a display manager. Check
 into its configuration in /etc/config, etc. Find out exactly what it's
 using (launching) for an xinitrc.

 Also check out ~/.X*, and see if there are any user-local errors or logs of 
 use.

 Thanks, got it working by recompiling udev as mentioned in the last
 comment here:

 http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org/2011/09/18/lightdm-on-gentoo-artwork-needed/

 - Grant

 It stopped working.  I have the same problem described here:

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395327

 It hangs with this from /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log:

 DEBUG: Waiting for ready signal from X server :0

 It does this on 2 of my systems but succeeds on the other.  The next
 lines on the successful system are:

 DEBUG: Acquired bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager
 DEBUG: Registering seat with bus path /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0

 The fix described in the bug is to add dbus to use in /etc/init.d/xdm
 but dbus is already in there.  dbus is currently started on all 3
 systems.  Any ideas?

 - Grant

This definitely has something to do with dbus but I can't put my
finger on it.  I added dbus to the boot runlevel and lightdm came up
fine after a reboot.  I removed dbus from all runlevels and rebooted
it's still working.  I don't get it.  I rebooted many times this
morning and it never worked once.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-21 Thread Grant
[snip]
 It stopped working.  I have the same problem described here:

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395327

 It hangs with this from /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log:

 DEBUG: Waiting for ready signal from X server :0

 It does this on 2 of my systems but succeeds on the other.  The next
 lines on the successful system are:

 DEBUG: Acquired bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager
 DEBUG: Registering seat with bus path /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0

 The fix described in the bug is to add dbus to use in /etc/init.d/xdm
 but dbus is already in there.  dbus is currently started on all 3
 systems.  Any ideas?

 - Grant

 This definitely has something to do with dbus but I can't put my
 finger on it.  I added dbus to the boot runlevel and lightdm came up
 fine after a reboot.  I removed dbus from all runlevels and rebooted
 it's still working.  I don't get it.  I rebooted many times this
 morning and it never worked once.

 - Grant

I'm sorry for cramming up the airwaves with this.  lightdm works with
dbus in the default runlevel too.  I think I just need to make sure
dbus starts before xdm.  Can anyone suggest an /etc/init.d/xdm change
for this and should I file a bug?

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: Overlays - mask everything except a specific package?

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
   I'm looking for a ways to:

 1) List all contents of a specific overlay including version numbers.

 2) Mask everything in an overlay except exactly what I actually want 
 installed.

   Anyone know how to do this?

   For instance, I use the init6 overlay to get handbrake but I don't
 want to use nvidia-drivers  nvidia-settings from the init6 overlay
 even if their version numbers are higher.

   Clearly, I can play with masking specific package revisions, but
 that's a lot of work and doesn't clearly say where I get a package
 when the version numbers are identical.

 Thanks,
 Mark

As for apparently listing the contents of an overlay, once the overlay
is added and sync'ed eix -Oc seems to sort of work with the
unfortunate requirement that you have to add and sync first...

- Mark

c2stable ~ # eix -Oc
[N] app-accessibility/caribou (~0.4.1-r1[2]): Input assistive
technology intended for switch and pointer users
[N] app-emulation/open-vm-tools (~2011.11.20.535097[1]): Opensourced
tools for VMware guests
[N] app-emulation/open-vm-tools-kmod (~2011.11.20.535097[1]):
Opensourced tools for VMware guests
[I] app-emulation/vmware-modules (264.2[1]@02/18/2012): VMware kernel modules
[I] app-emulation/vmware-player (4.0.2.591240[1]@02/18/2012): Emulate
a complete PC on your PC without the usual performance overhead of
most emulators
[I] app-emulation/vmware-tools (8.8.1.528992[1]@11/23/2011): VMware
Tools for guest operating systems
[N] app-emulation/vmware-vix (~1.11.1.528992[1]): VMware VIX API for Linux
[N] app-emulation/vmware-workstation (~8.0.2.591240[1]): Emulate a
complete PC on your PC without the usual performance overhead of most
emulators
[N] app-emulation/wine (1.2.3): free implementation of Windows(tm) on Unix
[N] app-emulation/vmware-converter [1] (--): Converts a complete PC on
your PC without the usual performance overhead of most emulators
[N] app-emulation/vmware-server [1] (--): VMware Server for Linux
[N] app-emulation/vmware-server-console [1] (--): VMware Remote
Console for Linux
[N] app-emulation/vmware-vsphere-cli [1] (~4.1.0.254719): VMware
vSphere Command-Line Interface
[N] app-misc/mc (4.8.1-r1): GNU Midnight Commander is a text based file manager
[N] dev-util/metro (~[2]): release metatool used for creating
Gentoo and Funtoo releases
[N] games-fps/prey [2] (~20090219): First person shooter from 3D Realms
[N] games-fps/prey-data [2] (~20090219): First person shooter from 3D Realms
[N] gnome-extra/gnome-tweak-tool (~3.2.2-r2[2]): Tool to customize
GNOME 3 options
[I] media-video/mplayer (1.0_rc4_p20110322-r1@02/21/2012): Media
Player for Linux
[I] media-video/nvidia-settings (290.10@02/21/2012): NVIDIA Linux X11
Settings Utility
[D] media-video/handbrake [2] (0.9.5@10/30/2011 - ??): Open-source
DVD to MPEG-4 converter.
[N] net-irc/irssi (0.8.15): A modular textUI IRC client with IPv6 support
[N] net-libs/webkit-gtk (1.6.1-r301(3)): Open source web browser engine
[N] net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth (2.32.0-r1(2)): Fork of bluez-gnome
focused on integration with GNOME
[N] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources (3.2.2(3.2.2)): Full sources for the Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/geek-sources [2] (~3.2.6(3.2.6)): Full sources for the
Linux kernel including: fedora, grsecurity, tomoyo, and other patches
[N] sys-kernel/rh-sources [2] (~2.6.32.220): Full sources including
the Red Hat Enterprise Linux sources patchset for the 2.6 kernel tree
[D] virtual/linux-sources (2.6[2]@10/30/2011 - 0): Virtual for Linux
kernel sources
[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (295.20-r1@02/18/2012): NVIDIA X11
driver and GLX libraries
[1] vmware /var/lib/layman/vmware
[2] init6 /var/lib/layman/init6

Found 29 matches.
c2stable ~ #



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnupg: can't use keyservers

2012-02-21 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 21 Feb 2012 15:52:50 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Am 20.02.2012 21:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
  Am 2012-02-20 21:21, schrieb Mick:
  I just tried it again and it works from here.  I can see 7 keys on
  that server.
  
  Covering all bases and just in case, you're not trying to connect
  behind some firewall/gateway that is blocking all but http/https
  packets?
  
  Nope.
  
  Have you checked if you can ping the server?
  
  Yes, sir! ;-)
  
  My gpg version is:
  
  app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.17(09:22:32 02/20/11)(bzip2 ldap nls -adns
  -caps -doc - openct -pcsc-lite -selinux -smartcard -static)
  
  2.0.18 there, ~amd64
  
  As mentioned, I will have access again tomorrow. On my thinkpad,
  ~amd64 as well, it works right now ...
 
 more info:
 
 ~ $ /usr/bin/gpg2 --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2
 --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --send-keys 0x295CB83D55D0FCE6
 gpg: sende Schlüssel 55D0FCE6 auf den hkp-Server subkeys.pgp.net
 
 : can't connect to `subkeys.pgp.net': host not found
 
 gpgkeys: HTTP post error 7: couldn't connect: Not found
 gpg: interner Fehler Schlüsselserver
 gpg: Senden an Schlüsselserver fehlgeschlagen: Schlüsselserverfehler
 
 ~ $ ping subkeys.pgp.net
 PING subkeys.pgp.net (173.164.61.44) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from noc.nayr.net (173.164.61.44): icmp_req=1 ttl=52 time=177 ms
 64 bytes from noc.nayr.net (173.164.61.44): icmp_req=2 ttl=52 time=180 ms
 ^C
 
 ---
 
 app-crypt/gnupg
 
 Installed versions:  2.0.18(20:05:24 13.02.2012)(bzip2 nls readline
 static usb -adns -doc -ldap -selinux -smartcard)

Do you get the same if you try just a vanilla search?

gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --search-keys 0x295CB83D55D0FCE6

here it works fine (tried it twice).
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread James
Hello,

Well someone has suggested that to install Gentoo on a Raid system,
just use the latest version of Ubuntu to set up the raid. Then
you can do a traditional install on top of the Ubuntu and
you have a RAID install of Gentoo.

Is this practical?

Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
If so, your experiences?


curiously,
James






Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:39 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Well someone has suggested that to install Gentoo on a Raid system,
 just use the latest version of Ubuntu to set up the raid. Then
 you can do a traditional install on top of the Ubuntu and
 you have a RAID install of Gentoo.

 Is this practical?

 Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
 If so, your experiences?

I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I deamonize every service?

2012-02-21 Thread imacake LK
I think you all understood me wrong:

LK wrote linuxrocksrul...@gmail.com:

 On Arch Linux there is a variable with all important things to
 be run, like dhcpcd, ssh, apache, and so on. If I want i can
 simply prepend a '@' to be begin to start it in the background.
 I miss that ease on gentoo.


I mean, rc-update adds a service in such a way, that the
booting waits for that service to complete startup. Now I would
like to start the service in the background to speed the boot up.

I was able to do this kind of stuff in arch:
SERVICES=udev nxserver @dhcpcd @ssh
Where the services preceeded by a AT are backgroundified.

TIA...

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 09:50:34AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote:

  If you emerge ifplugd it should automatically let network start
  immediately at boot, and then do the actual connection in the
  background. It also handles unplug/plugging of the cable without you
  needing to do anything.

 I started a reply naming ifplugd, but then discarded it again in fear I was
 unable to explain the technical background of what it actually does. :o)

 I've been using ifplugd for years, but a while ago switched to netplug for
 no
 concrete reason. Do you by any chance know the difference between the two?
 All I know is that they do basically the same and both their distfile is
 only
 a few kB in size. Even their package description is the same.

 What the heck are you even talking about? I am sorry to have explained it
wrong.


Re: [gentoo-user] Overlays - mask everything except a specific package?

2012-02-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:23:21 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

I'm looking for a ways to:
 
 1) List all contents of a specific overlay including version numbers.

Run eix-remote update to add all layman overlays to eix's database, then
you caqn use it to search specific overlays.

 2) Mask everything in an overlay except exactly what I actually want
 installed.

The way I do this is to layman -a the overlay but not put it in
make.conf. Then I symlink only the ebuilds I want to my local overlay. By
symlinking instead of copying, I automatically get updates to that
package.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Advanced: (adj.) doesn't work yet, but it's pretty close. See: bug,
glitch.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:46:02 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:

  Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
  If so, your experiences?  
 
 I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
 a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
 seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

I did this several years ago, because I wanted a functional distro to
work with while compiling everything, a long task with the hardware of the
day. It's no different to using a live CD for the job, just make sure the
tools you need are installing in the host OS before you start.


-- 
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Did you know that eskimos have 17 different words for linguist?


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I deamonize every service?

2012-02-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:00:39 +0100, imacake LK wrote:

 I mean, rc-update adds a service in such a way, that the
 booting waits for that service to complete startup. Now I would
 like to start the service in the background to speed the boot up.

There's the PARALLEL_STARTUP option in rc.conf, but this method is
currently unsupported.

If you have ifplugd installed and set rc_depend_strict=NO in rc.conf,
there isn't really anything that should wait. The usual delays are
networking scripts waiting for the network to come up, but this avoids
those.


-- 
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Home is where you hang your @.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Overlays - mask everything except a specific package?

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:23:21 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

    I'm looking for a ways to:

 1) List all contents of a specific overlay including version numbers.

 Run eix-remote update to add all layman overlays to eix's database, then
 you caqn use it to search specific overlays.

 2) Mask everything in an overlay except exactly what I actually want
 installed.

 The way I do this is to layman -a the overlay but not put it in
 make.conf. Then I symlink only the ebuilds I want to my local overlay. By
 symlinking instead of copying, I automatically get updates to that
 package.


 --
 Neil Bothwick


Interesting idea Neil. Thanks.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:46:02 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:

  Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
  If so, your experiences?

 I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
 a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
 seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

 I did this several years ago, because I wanted a functional distro to
 work with while compiling everything, a long task with the hardware of the
 day. It's no different to using a live CD for the job, just make sure the
 tools you need are installing in the host OS before you start.

I prefer to do it this way, as I can load up the Gentoo Handbook in a
browser and avoid the risk of some typos by copy/pasting some
commands. And if I hit an error[1], I can copy/paste if I need to dig
up someone else who's had a similar problem.

[1] And, really, every new box is unique, and I always find
*something* to file a bug report against...

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:46:02 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:

  Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
  If so, your experiences?

 I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
 a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
 seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

 I did this several years ago, because I wanted a functional distro to
 work with while compiling everything, a long task with the hardware of the
 day. It's no different to using a live CD for the job, just make sure the
 tools you need are installing in the host OS before you start.

 I prefer to do it this way, as I can load up the Gentoo Handbook in a
 browser and avoid the risk of some typos by copy/pasting some
 commands. And if I hit an error[1], I can copy/paste if I need to dig
 up someone else who's had a similar problem.

 [1] And, really, every new box is unique, and I always find
 *something* to file a bug report against...

 --
 :wq


Is it the only running machine and you con only do the install sitting
at the machine?

I do most installs by booting the Gentoo install CD, enabling shh and
then shelling in from another machine where I run the handbook and
copy/paste the commandsin my shell terminal. No need for Ubuntu to do
that unless the machine is somehow in isolation and doesn't have
networking.

That said, using Ubuntu might be a very good way to do it especially
if you are going to build a RAID which isn't automatically recognizzed
at bott by the kernel. I.e. - needs an initrd. Think metadata  0.9
and things like RAID5 or 6.

I once used Ubuntu to get a PowerPC machine booting Linux, then
studied how Ubuntu did and did my Gentoo install from scratch on a
different partition until it worked at which time I removed Ubuntu.

Just some thoughts,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:46:02 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:

  Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
  If so, your experiences?

 I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
 a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
 seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

 I did this several years ago, because I wanted a functional distro to
 work with while compiling everything, a long task with the hardware of the
 day. It's no different to using a live CD for the job, just make sure the
 tools you need are installing in the host OS before you start.

 I prefer to do it this way, as I can load up the Gentoo Handbook in a
 browser and avoid the risk of some typos by copy/pasting some
 commands. And if I hit an error[1], I can copy/paste if I need to dig
 up someone else who's had a similar problem.

 [1] And, really, every new box is unique, and I always find
 *something* to file a bug report against...

 Is it the only running machine and you con only do the install sitting
 at the machine?

Occasionally that's the most convenient approach, sure. Especially
when physical space is tight, or when the new box has much larger
display[s] available to it.


 I do most installs by booting the Gentoo install CD, enabling shh and
 then shelling in from another machine where I run the handbook and
 copy/paste the commandsin my shell terminal. No need for Ubuntu to do
 that unless the machine is somehow in isolation and doesn't have
 networking.

 That said, using Ubuntu might be a very good way to do it especially
 if you are going to build a RAID which isn't automatically recognizzed
 at bott by the kernel. I.e. - needs an initrd. Think metadata  0.9
 and things like RAID5 or 6.

 I once used Ubuntu to get a PowerPC machine booting Linux, then
 studied how Ubuntu did and did my Gentoo install from scratch on a
 different partition until it worked at which time I removed Ubuntu.

Note I never said I used Ubuntu for this process. I was using the
Gentoo live DVD. I don't see the need to use an Ubuntu disc over a
Gentoo disc, in this case.


-- 
:wq



[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread James
Michael Mol mikemol at gmail.com writes:


   Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
   If so, your experiences?

  I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
  a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
  seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

It sets up the raid1 on /boot/root/swap (identical drives) really easy.
Since GPTfdisk does not exist on any gentoo installation media, it 
sounds like the easiest (most direct path) to set up a RAID-1 gentoo
workstation.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID

Is this url the guide you used? 
Any other links?


  I did this several years ago, because I wanted a functional distro to
  work with while compiling everything, a long task with the hardware of the
  day. It's no different to using a live CD for the job, just make sure the
  tools you need are installing in the host OS before you start.

I think I'm going to take the plunge.
What did your partition setup look like?

Can you post or send me privately a copy of the fstab used for
the UUID devices, cdrom etc etc?


James




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Michael Mol mikemol at gmail.com writes:


   Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
   If so, your experiences?

  I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
  a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
  seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

 It sets up the raid1 on /boot/root/swap (identical drives) really easy.
 Since GPTfdisk does not exist on any gentoo installation media, it
 sounds like the easiest (most direct path) to set up a RAID-1 gentoo
 workstation.

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID

 Is this url the guide you used?
 Any other links?

This is all I've ever used:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Michael Mol mikemol at gmail.com writes:


   Has anyone installed gentoo on ubuntu raid install?
   If so, your experiences?

  I haven't tried anything that way, but is sounds like using Ubuntu as
  a fancy bootstrap to replace the Gentoo live boot environment, and
  seems unnecessary. Have you tried the Gentoo live DVD?

 It sets up the raid1 on /boot/root/swap (identical drives) really easy.
 Since GPTfdisk does not exist on any gentoo installation media, it
 sounds like the easiest (most direct path) to set up a RAID-1 gentoo
 workstation.

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID

 Is this url the guide you used?
 Any other links?

 This is all I've ever used:

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

 --
 :wq


Another tool for your toolbox

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml



[gentoo-user] Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-21 Thread Mick
 -lcairo -lgmodule-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt
-lglib-2.0   -lXt -lgthread-2.0 -lfreetype -lz -lbz2
-lstartup-notification-1   -ldl  -lrt
collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed]
make[5]: *** [libxul.so] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/video/tmp_portage/portage/www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release/obj-i686-pc-linux-gnu/toolkit/library'
make[4]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/video/tmp_portage/portage/www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release/obj-i686-pc-linux-gnu'
make[3]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/video/tmp_portage/portage/www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release/obj-i686-pc-linux-gnu'
make[2]: *** [default] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/video/tmp_portage/portage/www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release/obj-i686-pc-linux-gnu'
make[1]: *** [realbuild] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/video/tmp_portage/portage/www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release'
make: *** [build] Error 2
emake failed
 * ERROR: www-client/firefox-10.0.1 failed (compile phase):
 *   emake failed
 *
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line  85:  Called src_compile
 *   environment, line 6669:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   CC=$(tc-getCC) CXX=$(tc-getCXX) LD=$(tc-getLD)
MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=${MAKEOPTS} emake -f client.mk || die emake failed;
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=www-client/firefox-10.0.1',
 * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=www-client/firefox-10.0.1'.
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/www-client:firefox-10.0.1:20120221-062616.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/mnt/video/tmp_portage/portage/www-client/firefox-10.0.1/temp/environment'.
 * S: 
'/mnt/video/tmp_portage/portage/www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release'


I found this bug in Google:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643690

Has anyone come across this problem and is there a Gentoo fix other
than waiting for a new release?
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Mick



[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread james
Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com writes:


  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml

Yes I tried this link and ended up with a system that would not boot.

Something everyone but Neil is missing, is using the Ubuntu to setup the
raid array to where the system will reboot. Then install Gentoo.
That's why I cannot make any of the gentoo_ish install methods work.

I've built dozens of gentoo systems, over the years, without many issues.
I've spent way too much time trying to get a working raid1 install.

Grub2, fstab examples, fdisk, 4K sector issues, gpt. It's all too screwy
on gentoo install media and poorly documented. For peak sake, the
livedvd-12 does not even have gptfdisk on it.

So I'm going to install raid1 via ubuntu and then install gentoo over
it. That way,  the dual raid1 disks should be setup and the install
will mostly mirror the handbook.

Maybe that will work Maybe not, but, I'm done with
Gentoo's lack of current (or poor) documentation on raid et all.
That's the reason that grub2 is still masked: no current documentation.
 
The handbook still says to use fdisk  to prepare 4K sector hard drives,
there is no GPT formatting tools; and too much out of date information.

The doc folks just ignore the obvious; been down that path too.
Hell, I've even to pay folks to just bring any of the numerous
(onerous) raid install docs up to date; to no avail.

thanks for the input.
James









Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-21 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes:

 The latest stable x86 firefox fails to compile:
[... big linking being done ...]
 collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed]
 make[5]: *** [libxul.so] Error 1
[...]

Do you have enough memory on that machine, is swap space activated? The
linking phase will need a lot of memory. Although I don't understand why
ld would terminate with signal 9 then.

 I found this bug in Google:
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643690

I'm not so sure this is related.

Wonko



[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 22/02/12 00:34, Alex Schuster wrote:

Mick writes:


The latest stable x86 firefox fails to compile:

[... big linking being done ...]

collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed]
make[5]: *** [libxul.so] Error 1

[...]

Do you have enough memory on that machine, is swap space activated? The
linking phase will need a lot of memory. Although I don't understand why
ld would terminate with signal 9 then.


When there's not enough memory available, signal 9 is actually how the 
system recovers from that, by killing the offending process.


dmesg should have given a clue about what happened in that case.




Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:40:39 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:

  Is it the only running machine and you con only do the install sitting
  at the machine?  
 
 Occasionally that's the most convenient approach, sure. Especially
 when physical space is tight, or when the new box has much larger
 display[s] available to it.

Or when installing on a laptop that you need to be able to use away from
base during that time.

  I once used Ubuntu to get a PowerPC machine booting Linux, then
  studied how Ubuntu did and did my Gentoo install from scratch on a
  different partition until it worked at which time I removed Ubuntu.  
 
 Note I never said I used Ubuntu for this process. I was using the
 Gentoo live DVD. I don't see the need to use an Ubuntu disc over a
 Gentoo disc, in this case.

Note that I didn't say it was an Ubuntu live CD. I installed Ubuntu to
the hard disc, which gave me a usable machine very quickly. Then I could
do productive stuff on it while running the Gentoo installation in the
background.


-- 
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And then Adam said, What's a headache?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:15:57 + (UTC), james wrote:

 Something everyone but Neil is missing, is using the Ubuntu to setup the
 raid array to where the system will reboot. Then install Gentoo.
 That's why I cannot make any of the gentoo_ish install methods work.

Or you could install to a single disk and then convert that to RAID1
afterwards, which may be a simpler process.


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[gentoo-user] mask all packages but 1 from an overlay?

2012-02-21 Thread Grant
Can I mask all packages from a layman overlay except for one?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] mask all packages but 1 from an overlay?

2012-02-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can I mask all packages from a layman overlay except for one?

Check out Mark Knecht's thread from 5 hours ago asking the same question. :)

Short answer was don't let portage see the overlay, instead symlink
the packages you want to your local overlay instead, so only they will
be seen by portage, while still allowing you to sync the overlay as
usual.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-21 Thread Philip Webb
120222 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 22/02/12 00:34, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Mick writes:
 The latest stable x86 firefox fails to compile:
 [... big linking being done ...]
 collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed]
 make[5]: *** [libxul.so] Error 1
 [...]
 Do you have enough memory on that machine, is swap space activated?
 The linking phase will need a lot of memory.
 Although I don't understand why ld would terminate with signal 9 then.
 When there's not enough memory available, signal 9 is actually
 how the system recovers from that, by killing the offending process.
 dmesg should have given a clue about what happened in that case.

I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems :
it needed  3,61 GB  disk space for the link stage
 most/all of my  2 GB  memory.

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ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
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Re: [gentoo-user] mask all packages but 1 from an overlay?

2012-02-21 Thread Grant
 Can I mask all packages from a layman overlay except for one?

 Check out Mark Knecht's thread from 5 hours ago asking the same question. :)

Ouch, sorry.  I bet he was doing the exact same thing I'm doing.  Darn
poppler, eh Mark!  The version number is the same so you can't mask it
out even temporarily.

 Short answer was don't let portage see the overlay, instead symlink
 the packages you want to your local overlay instead, so only they will
 be seen by portage, while still allowing you to sync the overlay as
 usual.

Based on that info, I just copied it into /usr/local/portage.  It's
hal so I don't think there is to much likelihood of an update.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-21 Thread walt
On 02/20/2012 01:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:11:07 +0100
 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi!

 I might be a little bit on the radical side, but with seeing the whole
 KDEPIM debacle I migrated to GNOME 3 and Evolution. It took me some
 time to get used to it but I like it.
 
 
 No, I wouldn't say that's radical. I would say that is common sense.
 
 A core piece of KDE didn't work for you, and you need that core piece
 to work right. You probably need and want to work in a consistent DE
 also.
 
 So, the thing to do is to move to something that does work. Being that
 you need a complete DE, you tried out the first available option -
 Gnome.
 
 And you found that worked for you.
 
 I'm a classic Gnome-hater myself, but I can't find the error in that
 logic

Actually I loved kde2 and hated gnome1, but my affections started shifting
when kde3 and gnome2 stabilized.

A month or two ago I thought gnome3 had stabilized enough that I updated
my everyday gnome2 work machine to ~x86, which includes a mostly-gnome3
environment.

Last week I decided to regress to x86/gnome2 because there are just a few
things that almost-but-not-quite work in gnome3, and I just can't/won't
function without them.  

Something as trivial as double-clicking on a date in the gnome calendar
applet no longer opens the calendar function of evolution.  What a dumb
fscking stupid regression for a major DE to tolerate when it would be so
simple to make it work like it already does in gnome2.  I really think
I could probably hack together a patch by myself, the code is so simple,
but I can't see any good reason to waste my time on it.

Likewise for debugging the kdepim mess when it was already working well
in the old kde.  What ARE they thinking?  Reminds me of our US Congress,
all advertising and no product.





[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-21 Thread walt
On 02/21/2012 02:03 PM, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 The latest stable x86 firefox fails to compile:
 
 www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release

I noticed that firefox-bin (I got sick of compiling the damned thing every
two weeks) just updated this morning to 10.0.2, so I'd be tempted to wait
a few days until the compile-it-yourself version catches up.




Re: [gentoo-user] mask all packages but 1 from an overlay?

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can I mask all packages from a layman overlay except for one?

 Check out Mark Knecht's thread from 5 hours ago asking the same question. :)

 Ouch, sorry.  I bet he was doing the exact same thing I'm doing.  Darn
 poppler, eh Mark!  The version number is the same so you can't mask it
 out even temporarily.

 Short answer was don't let portage see the overlay, instead symlink
 the packages you want to your local overlay instead, so only they will
 be seen by portage, while still allowing you to sync the overlay as
 usual.

 Based on that info, I just copied it into /usr/local/portage.  It's
 hal so I don't think there is to much likelihood of an update.

 - Grant


Hi Grant,
That's funny! Both of us asking the same thing on the same day.

In my case it wasn't poplar. I use the init6 overlay to get handbrake
but I started noticing that there are a number of other things my
system was pulling in from init6, like nvidia-settings, which I didn't
want it to pull in. I want to get everything I need and can get from
the standard repository from the standard repository. I only want to
go to the overlay when I absolutely need to and it's not clear to me
when there's a duplication between the standard repository and
whatever an overlay points at which one emerge choses.

Good luck with your overlay stuff. I'm going to try Neil's idea later
this week and see how it goes.

Cheers,
Mark



[gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?

2012-02-21 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
Hi all,

Every morning I start konsole, type emerge --sync, and then go do
other stuff. Some time later I look at the output and usually run
emerge ... world. I would like to automate that a bit more.

I can use kpart to start konsole on a particular desktop so that's
easy. What I can't seem to get working is the $SHELL --login +
emerge --sync part.

If I run konsole --noclose -e emerge --sync then I get the output I
want but I don't get a prompt. If I run konsole -e $SHELL --login
then I get the prompt but, obviously, no emerge output.

How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync
and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it
all manually. Any ideas?

Cheers,
Hilco



Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?

2012-02-21 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Hi Hilco,

answers and suggestions inline.

Am 22.02.2012 03:03, schrieb Hilco Wijbenga:
 Hi all,

 Every morning I start konsole, type emerge --sync, and then go do
 other stuff. Some time later I look at the output and usually run
 emerge ... world. I would like to automate that a bit more.
Just a suggestion: Do you know the porticron script? Combined with a
proper setup of ssmtp, it will sync you portage tree daily (in the
background) and send you an email with all updates, and important
security notes.
 I can use kpart to start konsole on a particular desktop so that's
 easy. What I can't seem to get working is the $SHELL --login +
 emerge --sync part.

 If I run konsole --noclose -e emerge --sync then I get the output I
 want but I don't get a prompt. If I run konsole -e $SHELL --login
 then I get the prompt but, obviously, no emerge output.

 How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync
 and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it
 all manually. Any ideas?
I don't use konsole, but try out: konsole -e $SHELL -c emerge --sync 
$SHELL --login
 Cheers,
 Hilco
Regards,
Felix



Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?

2012-02-21 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 21 February 2012 18:36, Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com wrote:
 Hi Hilco,

 answers and suggestions inline.

 Am 22.02.2012 03:03, schrieb Hilco Wijbenga:
 Hi all,

 Every morning I start konsole, type emerge --sync, and then go do
 other stuff. Some time later I look at the output and usually run
 emerge ... world. I would like to automate that a bit more.
 Just a suggestion: Do you know the porticron script? Combined with a
 proper setup of ssmtp, it will sync you portage tree daily (in the
 background) and send you an email with all updates, and important
 security notes.

Thanks, no I did not know about this script.

I checked it out but I prefer to kick the sync off myself (syncing
really slows down the computer). Besides, I have my own little script
that does everything the way I want it. :-)

 I can use kpart to start konsole on a particular desktop so that's
 easy. What I can't seem to get working is the $SHELL --login +
 emerge --sync part.

 If I run konsole --noclose -e emerge --sync then I get the output I
 want but I don't get a prompt. If I run konsole -e $SHELL --login
 then I get the prompt but, obviously, no emerge output.

 How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync
 and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it
 all manually. Any ideas?
 I don't use konsole, but try out: konsole -e $SHELL -c emerge --sync 
 $SHELL --login

Ah, the secret sauce is the quotes. Google had told me not to use
quotes. I must have misunderstood. Still, I thought I had tried
something like that.

Thanks!



[gentoo-user] Re: [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?

2012-02-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 22/02/12 05:08, Hilco Wijbenga wrote:

On 21 February 2012 18:36, Felix Kuperjansfe...@desaster-games.com  wrote:

Hi Hilco,

answers and suggestions inline.

Am 22.02.2012 03:03, schrieb Hilco Wijbenga:

Hi all,

Every morning I start konsole, type emerge --sync, and then go do
other stuff. Some time later I look at the output and usually run
emerge ... world. I would like to automate that a bit more.

Just a suggestion: Do you know the porticron script? Combined with a
proper setup of ssmtp, it will sync you portage tree daily (in the
background) and send you an email with all updates, and important
security notes.


Thanks, no I did not know about this script.

I checked it out but I prefer to kick the sync off myself (syncing
really slows down the computer).


It doesn't have to.  You can put these in your make.conf:

PORTAGE_NICENESS=19
PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=sh -c \schedtool -B \${PID}; ionice -c 3 -p 
\${PID}\


Syncing and emerging should be transparent now.  You won't even know 
it's happening :-)





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Raid install via ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread tlze
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:35:12PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:15:57 + (UTC), james wrote:
 
  Something everyone but Neil is missing, is using the Ubuntu to setup the
  raid array to where the system will reboot. Then install Gentoo.
  That's why I cannot make any of the gentoo_ish install methods work.
 
 Or you could install to a single disk and then convert that to RAID1
 afterwards, which may be a simpler process.
 
 
 -- 
 Neil Bothwick
 
 Genius is 99% inspiration and 2% arithmetic

I use this way, file system is ext4, convert after run resize2fs and
fsck. Do not forget edit fstab.

-
I learn English.
我用这个方法,文件系统是ext4,转换后运行resize2fs及fsck。别忘记修改fstab。


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:56:31 -0800
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 Likewise for debugging the kdepim mess when it was already working
 well in the old kde.  What ARE they thinking?  Reminds me of our US
 Congress, all advertising and no product.

kdepim devs are just making a simple classic mistake that's
been made over and over and over again. Developers do not learn from
history, every time this mistake is made the team doing it thinks *they*
will be different.

This is their second big project - the most dangerous one a dev will
ever work on. Frederick P. Brooks has it all covered since the 70s.


-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-21 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 22 Feb 2012 00:22:27 Philip Webb wrote:
 120222 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  On 22/02/12 00:34, Alex Schuster wrote:
  Mick writes:
  The latest stable x86 firefox fails to compile:
  [... big linking being done ...]
  
  collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed]
  make[5]: *** [libxul.so] Error 1
  
  [...]
  Do you have enough memory on that machine, is swap space activated?
  The linking phase will need a lot of memory.
  Although I don't understand why ld would terminate with signal 9 then.
  
  When there's not enough memory available, signal 9 is actually
  how the system recovers from that, by killing the offending process.
  dmesg should have given a clue about what happened in that case.
 
 I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems :
 it needed  3,61 GB  disk space for the link stage
  most/all of my  2 GB  memory.

Thanks guys, I did add half a gig of swap just in case to the 250M already 
available.  It may be that this old box is now s old that I can no longer 
emerge FF on it.  I will try adding some more swap (which of course will take 
away available disk space for /var/portage) and see what I run out of.

PS.  I was expecting some message on screen saying no space left on device, 
but have not checked dmesg for running out memory errors.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Proxytunnel through nginx

2012-02-21 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 18:15:46 Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am trying to set up a reverse-proxy at my home to be able to by-pass
 restrictive firewalls that only allow http/https traffic.
 
 So I configured nginx as a reverse-proxy to send connections to the sshd at
 the home server.  However, I fail to establish a connection.  The
 connection attempt errors out with:
 
 $ ssh root@192.168.1.5
 SSL enabled
 Connected to XXX.XX.XXX.XX:443 (local proxy)
 
 Tunneling to 192.168.1.5:22 (destination)
 Communication with local proxy:
  - CONNECT 192.168.1.5:22 HTTP/1.0
  - Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
 analyze_HTTP: readline failed: Connection closed by remote host
 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
 
 where XXX is the public IP address of my server.
 
 the proxy tunnel command is as follows:
 
  /usr/bin/proxytunnel -v -e -p XXX.XX.XXX.XX:443 -R user:'secretpasswd' -d
 192.168.1.5:22
 
 The relevant nginx entries are as follows:
 
 upstream tunnel {
 server 127.0.0.1:22;
 }
 
 server {
 listen   443;
 server_name  localhost;
 
 ssl  on;
 ssl_certificate  certs/cert.pem;
 ssl_certificate_key  certs/cert.key;
 ssl_session_timeout  5m;
 keepalive_timeout   70;
 
 location /  {
 auth_basic  Restricted;
 auth_basic_user_file.htpasswd_slug;
 #   proxy_pass http://tunnel;
 proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1;
 proxy_buffering off;
 proxy_set_header Host $host;
 proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
 proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For
 $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for; proxy_redirect off;
 }
 }
 
 
 
 The nginx error logs don't show anything, so I'm thinking there's something
 that the sshd does not like, but even when I increase the debug level in
 the sshd_config nothing shows up.  This means that the remote client never
 reaches as far as the sshd server (nginx and sshd are both running on the
 same host).
 
 Any idea what causes this problem?

Could it be that the ssd does not like http/1.0 connections?

 Tunneling to 192.168.1.5:22 (destination)
 Communication with local proxy:
  - CONNECT 192.168.1.5:22 HTTP/1.0

Is it possible to configure a proxy connection from nginx without the http 
headers?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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