RE: [gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

Roy~
I've been leaning toward building the kernel myself; maybe this is a good
time to jump in...

I know from lspci that, in addition to the nvidia kernel (which
module-rebuild correctly identifies), that ipw2100 (wireless) is a module
that I had to emerge in order to be functional on my laptop.  I also know
that I emerged alsa sound to get all the functionality I wanted there.  And,
from going through menuconfig, it appears that the sound/modem controller
(Intel AC97) and the Firewire (IEEE1394) is selectable within the kernel
config.
So, my question would be - why doesn't module-rebuild see the ipw2100 (at
least), and the alsa drivers (at most)?

I'm still reading through the docs and re-reading the handbook on kernel
generation so I'll be trying this out later today.  I know that I had a
lengthy discourse with Holly regarding splash, which was never really
resolved for me regardless of the kernel generation method chosen.

JD 

-Original Message-
From: Roy Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:16 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:

Roy~
Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I
used
'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
have any problems.

Regards,

JD
  

I'm about out of my league with this.  Just a couple of days experience
with genkernel before switching to menuconfig...

Just a few things to check.

dmesg

recent logs in /var/log

Look in /lib/modules.  You should see some kernel directories.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls /lib/modules/
2.4.28  2.6.11-gentoo-r11  2.6.11-gentoo-r4  2.6.11-gentoo-r9  
2.6.12-gentoo-r10  2.6.13-gentoo-r3

Then look in the problem kernel's directory.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/
CiscoVPN  kernel  modules.alias   modules.dep  
modules.inputmap   modules.pcimap   modules.usbmap  video
build miscmodules.ccwmap  modules.ieee1394map  
modules.isapnpmap  modules.symbols  source

Then you can dig down into kernel/* looking for *.ko files.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # find /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel -name 
*.ko -print
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/acpi/video.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/base/firmware_class.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/block/pktcdvd.ko
...

This should give you a warm fuzzy that the modules were built...

If all that's there, then look at the modules configs in /etc.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls -d /etc/modules*
/etc/modules.autoload.d  /etc/modules.conf  /etc/modules.conf.old  
/etc/modules.d  /etc/modules.devfs

/etc/modules.d contains individual module config files.  modules-update 
will merge these into
/etc/modules.conf.

That's about the sum of my knowledge here...

HTH,
Roy
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

Yes, it is.

JD

-Original Message-
From: Qian Qiao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:00 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

On 10/30/05, John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Roy~
 Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I
used
 'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
 take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
 have any problems.

Is your /usr/src/linux pointing to the new kernel source?

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[gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to install a new
kernel, I know that there are certain packages that will not come back, and
need to be re-emerged on the new kernel.  Is there a way to setup a list of
these based on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to make
emerge world easier?

Thanks for the input.

JD



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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

Holly~
Thanks for the reply.  I found the package on portage, but couldn't locate
any docs for how to use it... I'm googling for it atm, but if you can point
me towards any docs on this I'd really appreciate it.  I've been waiting for
something like this for a while.

Regards,

JD


-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:52 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler schreef:
 I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to install a
new
 kernel, I know that there are certain packages that will not come back,
and
 need to be re-emerged on the new kernel.  Is there a way to setup a list
of
 these based on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to make
 emerge world easier?
 
 Thanks for the input.
 
 JD
 

There is, in fact, now a tool to do this;

eix module-rebuild
* sys-kernel/module-rebuild
 Available versions:  0.1 0.5
 Installed:   0.5
 Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/
 Description: A utility to rebuild any kernel modules which
you have installed.


Found 1 matches

HTH,
Holly
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

Holly~

Thanks for the reply.  It seems fairly straightforward.  From reading this,
I would think that running module-rebuild populate would be the first task.
Add/Del package would be for building discriminate versions of a kernel
(presumably for locating problems or just testing out a kernel revision),
list is simply a list of what's been 'populate'd, toggle would have similar
usage as Add/Del, except that it would allow/disallow a package which has
been 'populate'd, and rebuild would be the heart of the reason for this
utility, to rebuild a set of modules into a new kernel.  Assuming I'm at
least somewhat correct in this, my only point of confusion is whether I
compile the new kernel first, then run module-rebuild? Or does running
module-rebuild 'rebuild' allow me to compile the new kernel, link it, and
reboot into it?

Regards,

JD
 

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:35 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler schreef:
 
 John Dangler schreef:
 Holly Bostick schreef:
 
 I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to
 install a new kernel, I know that there are certain packages that
 will not come back, Is there a way to setup a list of these based
 on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to make emerge
 world easier?
 
 There is, in fact, now a tool to do this;
 
 eix module-rebuild * sys-kernel/module-rebuild Available versions:
 0.1 0.5 Installed:   0.5 Homepage:
 http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: A utility to rebuild any
 kernel modules which you have installed.
 
 Thanks for the reply.  I found the package on portage, but couldn't
 locate any docs for how to use it... I'm googling for it atm, but if
 you can point me towards any docs on this I'd really appreciate it.
 I've been waiting for something like this for a while.
 
module-rebuild --help
/usr/sbin/module-rebuild: illegal option -- -

Oh, apparently --help is not enabled; but if you run it either with no
options or an 'illegal' option, you get the 'proper usage help', as is
standard for most Linux command-line probrams.

module-rebuild [options] action [category/package]
Version: 0.5

Where options are:
-X   - Emerge based on package names,
   not exact versions.
-C   - Disable all coloured output.

Where action is one of:
add  - Add package to moduledb.
del  - Delete a package from moduledb.
toggle   - Toggle auto-rebuild of Package.
list - List packages to auto-rebuild.
rebuild  - Rebuild packages.
populate - Populate the database with any
   packages which currently install
   drivers into the running kernel.


Do you need more than that? It's a pretty simple module atm.

Holly
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

hrmm...
I recompile the new kernel, before rebooting, I run module-rebuild list...
and get one entry - =media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4

So, I reboot the new kernel, and get no Ethernet, no wireless, no sound,
nonvidia, and the vga mode is wrong.  (the grub entry is an exact copy of
the previous kernel).

After the reboot, I run module-rebuild list, thinking that I would see all
of those packages... nope.  Only nvidia kernel.

I'm missing something, here.

Any input is appreciated.

JD

-Original Message-
From: Roy Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:12 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:

Holly~

Thanks for the reply.  It seems fairly straightforward.  From reading this,
I would think that running module-rebuild populate would be the first task.
Add/Del package would be for building discriminate versions of a kernel
(presumably for locating problems or just testing out a kernel revision),
list is simply a list of what's been 'populate'd, toggle would have similar
usage as Add/Del, except that it would allow/disallow a package which has
been 'populate'd, and rebuild would be the heart of the reason for this
utility, to rebuild a set of modules into a new kernel.  Assuming I'm at
least somewhat correct in this, my only point of confusion is whether I
compile the new kernel first, then run module-rebuild? Or does running
module-rebuild 'rebuild' allow me to compile the new kernel, link it, and
reboot into it?

Regards,

JD
  

http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20051024-newsletter.xml

Under Tips and tricks.

Basically just:

# module-rebuild list
# module-rebuild rebuild

I noticed that if you do another list after the rebuild, the
same modules show as needing rebuild.  Then after a reboot
the list shows clean.  So I'm assuming the list is against
your running kernel.

HTH,
Roy
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

Roy~
Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I used
'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
have any problems.

Regards,

JD

-Original Message-
From: Roy Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:27 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:

hrmm...
I recompile the new kernel, before rebooting, I run module-rebuild list...
and get one entry - =media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4

So, I reboot the new kernel, and get no Ethernet, no wireless, no sound,
nonvidia, and the vga mode is wrong.  (the grub entry is an exact copy of
the previous kernel).

After the reboot, I run module-rebuild list, thinking that I would see all
of those packages... nope.  Only nvidia kernel.

I'm missing something, here.

Any input is appreciated.

JD
  


When you rebuilt your kernel, did you:

# make menuconfig
# make  make modules_install  make install

The make modules_install should bring your network
and other modules online...

The make install will copy the kernel to your boot
partition.

HTH,
Roy
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[gentoo-user] other packages

[John Dangler]

I have found an add-in for gimp called GAP (animation).  It is a zipped tar
file.  How can I add this to my gentoo install?
(I'm not sure why it wasn't on portage, but, being fairly new to gentoo, I
can't imagine what has to be done to a package to declare it
'portage-able').

Thanks for any input

John D



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RE: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

[John Dangler]

Nick~
so far, you're batting 1000 at teaching new gentoo linux commands.
where do I get eix?

John D


-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:02 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast

On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 19:06 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 Anyone know why the xcdroast was taken off the mirrors? 
 There is a bug entered regarding xcdroast not being able to be downloaded
 (which I got when I did emerge xcdroast).
 It seems that the only reason for it not being there is either because
 there's something _really_ wrong with it.
 
 Or, does anyone have another recommendation for cd/dvd graphical frontend
in
 gnome?
 

Does nautilus do it? I notice eix nautilus returns (among others):

gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner
 Available versions:  2.10.0 2.10.1 ~2.10.1-r1[2]  2.10.2
~2.10.2-r1[2]  [M]2.11.7
 Installed:   2.10.1
 Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
 Description: CD and DVD writer plugin for Nautilus



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RESOLVED [gentoo-user] Apache vhosts revisited

[John Dangler]

It turns out that this (and probably the OP’s problem as well) isn’t related
to Apache at all, but a networking issue.
As long as the /etc/hosts files match on both machines, all is well…
It also turns out that, even though deprecated in the RFC’s, an underscore
is not legal in a virtual host name.
Thanks to sub on the IRC channels for the input!

John D

-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 12:05 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Apache vhosts revisited
Importance: High

After going back through the entire thread dealing with the vhosts problem
that was running here recently, I tried to setup my local fileserver with
the ‘default’ apache server, and adding 1 virtual host.
 
my apache2.conf file is basically a default (out of the box) setup, with the
line
Include conf/vhosts/vhsots.conf uncommented so that it is included.
 
my vhosts.conf file has
NameVirtualHost 192.168.1.36:80
 
VirtualHost 192.168.1.36:80
  ServerName Mambo
  DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs
/VirtualHost
 
VirtualHost 192.168.1.36:80
  ServerName GenoFit
  DocumentRoot /usr2/genofit/public
  Driectory /usr2/genofit/public
    order deny,allow
    Allow from all
    AllowOverride All
    Options FollowSymLinks
  /Directory
/VirtualHost
 
from the local machine, both hosts are accessible.
from another machine on the same router (192.168.1.35):
browsing to 192.168.1.36 gives me the Apache default page.
browsing to 192.168.1.36/GenoFit gives me “Not Found” The requested URL
/GenoFit was not found on the server
browsing to 192.168.1.36/Mambo gives me “Not Found” The requested URL /Mambo
was not found on the server
 
ping works in both directions, so I’m sure that it’s something I did/didn’t
do correctly in the config files.
After reading through the wiki docs on virtual hosts, and the docs on the
apache site (which are a little harder to digest), I think that the vhosts
file is ok, but I’m not sure about the apache2.conf file…
 
Any input is appreciated.
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] connections

[John Dangler]

Mattias~
Thanks for the reply.  Actually, my config.inc.php has
$cfg['PmaAbsoluteUri']='' (autoconfig is working ok)

the server ip is 192.168.1.10
the laptop ip is 192.168.1.15

the /etc/hosts file in the server has 
127.0.0.1 localhost myserver myserver2

I'm wondering if the /etc/hosts file in the laptop should get an entry with:
192.168.1.10 myserver myserver2

John 
 

-Original Message-
From: Mattias Granlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:35 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] connections

Hi!
My first post here, so bare with me.

You would want to check the variable $cfg['PmaAbsoluteUri'] =  
'http://localhost/phpmyadmin'; in config.inc.php in phpmyadmin's dir. If  
that points to localhost, your browser / server will direct you there.  
Change it to your servers IP or domainname and you should be good to go.

//Mattias Granlund

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 03:14:58 +0200, Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/2/05, John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike~
 Thanks for the reply. I did check the settings in my.cnf and
 skip-networking is commented out.
 I looked at the rest of the configuration and it seems as though it  
 should
 allow the connection.

 Help is definitely appreciated.


 One thought would be that you may not have PHPMyAdmin configured  
 properly.
 Is the error you are getting a PHPMyAdmin error page or a browser error?  
 Is
 your webserver setup to server the pages properly (no offense just going  
 for
 the obvious first). Is the MySQL user your are trying to login as  
 allowed to
 login remotely? Firewall? Just some thoughts. I can send you my
 config.phpfor MyAdmin if that would help. There isnt much good stuff
 in there anyhow
 ;)

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RE: [gentoo-user] nfs behavior

[John Dangler]

I was able to get it to unmount using umount -l (lazy), but trying to mount
it again produces:
mount 192.168.1.36:/usr2/public
mount: RPC: Program not registered

John D
 
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From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:31 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] nfs behavior

I setup nfs on a file server and my laptop and the first couple of days
everything was running fine.
I had to reboot the file server, and now all commands on the laptop to the
/mnt directory lock up.
e.g. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ls /mnt

just sits. 

I have to kill the terminal window, since there is no way to exit from it.

if I try umount /mnt/Mambo , I get 
Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered.
umount: /mnt/Mambo: device is busy.
Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered.
umount: /mnt/Mambo: device is busy.

Any suggestions on what's going on here ?

Any input is appreciated.

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RE: [gentoo-user] connections

[John Dangler]

Mike~
Thanks for the reply.  I did check the settings in my.cnf and
skip-networking is commented out.
I looked at the rest of the configuration and it seems as though it should
allow the connection…

Help is definitely appreciated…

John D

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From: Michael Crute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:35 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] connections

On 9/2/05, John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
how can I setup my laptop to connect to apps like phpmyadmin on the local
fileserver?
both are running gentoo 2.6.12-r9 .
vfs is setup and running, but when I try to connect from the laptop to the
fileserver on other apps like
phpmyadmin, I get The connection was refused when attempting to contact
127.0.0.1
I'm using http://192.168.1.10/phpmyadmin in the browser, so it would appear
as though the message is saying it's trying to connect to 'localhost'.
I can't verify this at the moment as I'm not within reach of my network but
I do believe that you have a misconfiguration in either MyAdmin or MySQL.
Check your my.cnf first and make sure that the line skip-networking is
commented out. 
 
BTW... By localhost it is most likely the server referring to itself not
your computer trying to connect back to itself.
 
-Mike
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[gentoo-user] power management on laptop

[John Dangler]

How do I tell whether my laptop supports acpi or apm?

I'm sorry to keep throwing this up right now, but lack of experience begs
more questions.  I've found a lot of information about this box (dell
inspiron 8600) from googling, forums, etc., but they seem to be split on
whether this box uses acpi or apm.  I have looked at numerous articles
saying that they upgraded the bios regarding this, but when I read the
changelogs on every version of bios since this one (A04) [the latest is
A13], they all say that they added fixes for bugs in suspend and added
support for new cards.  None of them say And we went from APM to APCI , or
anything like it.  It appeared as though apm was supported in this box,
since my first go at the battery applet showed that the battery had 100%
power, and, after installing apcid, the battery constantly shows 0.

Any input is appreciated.  it's a small thing, really, but now that I've
started looking into it, I can't let go until I find a solution.

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RESOLVED: RE: [gentoo-user] power management on laptop

[John Dangler]

Renat~
Good Call!!
I found a little block of text on tux where someone had apm loaded by
default, and, after adding acpi, had nothing working.  As I read through the
text, the poster mentioned looking in modules.autoload.d several times and
seeing nothing being added (they didn't add anything themselves, and
apparently assumed that the addition of the package would handle it).
I looked around a little more and found someone who had a box very similar
to mine and used the autoload settings from that article... All of the
applets are showing properly in gnome now!

Thanks to you and Holly for the patient replies on this.

John D

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From: Renat Golubchyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:19 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] power management on laptop

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:40:46 -0400 John Dangler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I tell whether my laptop supports acpi or apm?
 
 I'm sorry to keep throwing this up right now, but lack of experience
 begs more questions.  I've found a lot of information about this box
 (dell inspiron 8600) from googling, forums, etc., but they seem to be
 split on whether this box uses acpi or apm.

Tuxmobil[1] and Linux on Laptops[2] are your friends ;-)


Cheers,
Renat


[1] http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
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RE: RESOLVED: RE: [gentoo-user] power management on laptop

[John Dangler]

Nick~
so far, here is what's in my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file - 
ac b44 battery button fan processor thermal ipw2100 ieee80211
ieee80211_crypt ieee80211_crypt_wep ieee80211_crypt_ccmp
ieee80211_crypt_tkip nvidia
#iptables -- This BORKS ipw right now... 8/29 : JD

John 


-Original Message-
From: Nick Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:21 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: RESOLVED: RE: [gentoo-user] power management on laptop

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 12:03 -0400, John Dangler wrote:

 I looked around a little more and found someone who had a box very similar
 to mine and used the autoload settings from that article... All of the
 applets are showing properly in gnome now!
 
 Thanks to you and Holly for the patient replies on this.
 
 John D
 
what autoload settings did you use?


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[gentoo-user] nfs setup

[John Dangler]

I'm trying to get nfs setup between my gentoo boxes (both local)
on the server, grep NFS /usr/src/linux/.config (on the server) returns:
CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
CONFIG_NFS_V4 is not set
CONFIG_NFS_DIRECTIO is not set
CONFIG_NFSD=m
CONFIG_NFSD_V4 is not set
CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y

Are these settings right to get nfs working ?

Thanks for the input.

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RE: [gentoo-user] nfs setup

[John Dangler]

Mike~
Thanks for the input.  I'm going to emerge nfs-utils on the server and
client now.  I can't wait to get off this win machine!

John 

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From: Michael Crute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:09 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] nfs setup

On 8/31/05, John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to get nfs setup between my gentoo boxes (both local)
on the server, grep NFS /usr/src/linux/.config (on the server) returns:
CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
CONFIG_NFS_V4 is not set
CONFIG_NFS_DIRECTIO is not set 
CONFIG_NFSD=m
CONFIG_NFSD_V4 is not set
CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y

Are these settings right to get nfs working ?

Thanks for the input.

Those look ok but you will have to modprobe NFS and NFSD into the kernel
NFSD only on the server to make it work. You will also need to emerge
nfs-utils. Also make sure to add the NFS modules to your modules autoload
file in case the power goes out and your are forced to reboot.

-Mike

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RE: [gentoo-user] workspace setups

[John Dangler]

Rats (I forgot to turn off mail on the win box)

Sorry - I'm using gnome atm

John D
 

-Original Message-
From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:25 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups

Those workspaces are a feature of your windowmanager, not gentoo.  Which 
window manager are you using?  kde, or gnome, or what?
On Wednesday 31 August 2005 17:20, JD ATL LP wrote:
 My first email from my new gentoo laptop!

 I'm trying to figure out how these workspaces 'work'.
 I want to setup one for business, and another for dev.
 e.g. in the business space, i'd have office apps, stock ticker, etc
 showing.
 in the dev space, i'd have a program editor,web browser,etc.
 is there some gentoo or wiki docs that give me a good intro in how to
 customize these spaces?

 Thanks for the input...

 John D

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RE: [gentoo-user] workspace setups

[John Dangler]

As in - workspace1 | workspace2 | workspace3 | workspace4
(bottom right of the task bar in gnome desktop)

I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace, and then switch to
another, those apps don't appear, which does give me some idea of the
mechanics, but I'd like to customize what starts and what is available in
each one individually...

Thanks for the reply.

John D
 

-Original Message-
From: W.Kenworthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:22 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] workspace setups

What do you mean by workspace???  - multiple desktops via the pager?

BillK

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 22:32 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
...
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
 
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[gentoo-user] glunarclock

[John Dangler]

Anyone emerged this and got it to load? I emerged it, but I
cant find a way to have it start in gnome. (its an applet)



John D

RE: [gentoo-user] glunarclock

[John Dangler]

Holly~
Way Cool!
Are there more of these outside of the ones that are listed in gnome?


John D 

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:20 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] glunarclock

John Dangler schreef:
 Anyone emerged this and got it to load?  I emerged it, but I can't find
 a way to have it start in gnome. (it's an applet)
 
  
 
 John D
 
  
 

Yes, I've used it several times, under various versions of gnome-panel.

The way to start it (or most any panel applet), is to right click on an
empty area of the panel (or the handle), and choose 'Add to panel'.

Scroll down, and you should see 'Moon Clock'. If not, restart
gnome-panel (sometimes new applications or applets don't immediately
appear in the panel menus).

Choose it, hit 'Add' and it will be added to your panel. Don't forget to
right-click the applet and correct the longitude and latitude for your
location, or the information shown will be incorrect (except for the
phase, of course).

HTH,
Holly

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RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

[John Dangler]

Nick~
Would your consensus also agree with Hans-Werner's on this?
The problem was (posted earlier) that having ipw2100/ieee80211 compiled in
and then adding iptables to the kernel caused the wireless to go south on a
reboot.
 That incorporation of netfilter into the kernel changes some internal 
 structs, i guess. So you need to recompile your other modules (ipw2100
 and fellows - at least the network-dependent) for the new kernel.

I'd like to get this running, so I can setup firestarter on my laptop.

Thanks for your input.

John D 

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From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:56 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:43:26 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:

  We recommend you enable _everything_ except ipchains support and
  ipfwadm support as modules under this menu
 
 I never read this as meaning that everything should be selected, but
 rather that everything that you select under this menu, other than
 ipchains support and ipfwadm, should be selected as a module rather than
 static.

That interpretation would also mean that you should enable ipchains as
static, something you wouldn't want. But it is a highly ambiguous
statement.


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[gentoo-user] ACPI

[John Dangler]

I have ACPI support compiled as modules.  When I start gnome, I get an error
that says
Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket!  Make sure the ACPI
subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running.

I tried modprobe acpi (which didn't complain). But when I restarted gnome, I
got an error that the evolution data server had quit unexpectedly, along
with the same message mentioned above.  Does the acpi in portage allow the
desklet to get to the ACPI events?  Or is the desklet itself?

John D
 



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RE: [gentoo-user] ACPI

[John Dangler]

weird - rc-update show doesn't show acpi at all.
/etc/init.d/acpid doesn't exist.

/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/kernel/drivers/acpi exists (with battery.ko
and some others in it).

John D 

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:45 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI

John Dangler schreef:
 Make sure 
 the acpid daemon is running.
 

 rc-update show

= acpid |  default
   alsasound |  default
  alsasound~ |
apmd |


Is this daemon running? Try (as root)

/etc/init.d/acpid start

(or, change the settings and reboot)

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RE: [gentoo-user] ACPI

[John Dangler]

ok...
rc-update show _does_ have apmd (although it's not assigned a run level).
And, emerge -pv gnome-applets has
{ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.1 -acpi +apm -debug -doc
+gstreamer +ipv6 0 kb

But -- 
/etc/init.d/apmd start shows apm support is not compiled into the kernel.
(Which I could interpret as being compiled as a module)

And --
modprobe apm produces FATAL: Error inserting apm
(lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): no such
device
(this file does exist)

maybe I need to read up more on these two before blowing a lot of time on
the user list (?)  or is it a simple fix?

John D 

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:47 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI

John Dangler schreef:
 weird - rc-update show doesn't show acpi at all.
 /etc/init.d/acpid doesn't exist.

Well, you can't very well run the acpi daemon if you don't have it, can
you-- and if you don't have it, how is GNOME supposed to find it?


* sys-power/acpid
 Available versions:  1.0.2-r2 1.0.4-r1 1.0.4-r2
 Installed:   1.0.4-r2
 Homepage:http://acpid.sourceforge.net
 Description: Daemon for Advanced Configuration and Power
Interface

Perhaps acpi is not in your USE flags-- otherwise the daemon would have
probably been installed as a dependency of something that could use it,
like gnome-applets:

 emerge -pv gnome-applets

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.1  +acpi -apm -debug -doc
+gstreamer -ipv6 6,103 kB

... since the battery monitor applet depends on the acpi (or apm) daemon
to be running to be able to grab the data and display it.

Or are you using apm instead? Sorry, no laptop, so I don't know how to
work with that... but I would assume it works the same way, just instead
of compiling the kernel with acpi support, building packages with +acpi
and using the acpi daemon, you would instead build the kernel with apm
support, build packages with +apm and run the apm daemon.

HTH,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] acpid

[John Dangler]

I got acpid emerged, started, and added to run level, but when I go into
gnome and mouse over the battery (the default applet) it says:
System is running on battery power
0 minutes (0%) remain

the laptop is plugged into the AC.

John D

emerged with +acpi -apm ...




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[gentoo-user] desktop settings

[John Dangler]

On my gnome desktop in the default panel I currently have gaim and an xterm.
I tried to open a mozilla browser at an empty page (default), but when I
close and save settings, I get a message telling me that it cannot save
mozilla and closes it.  Is there a way to have mozilla available when I
login to a gnome session?

John D


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[gentoo-user] firestarter [Personal Linux Firewall]

[John Dangler]

I read through a few firewall products for my workstation and settled on
firestarter.  In reading through their docs, they say to enable 'every
option under iptables'. there are 36 possible choices here! (counting the
sub-choices under Full NAT Packet Filtering).  Is it necessary to build all
of these modules into the kernel in order for firestarter to work properly?

Thanks for the input.

John D


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[gentoo-user] iptables

[John Dangler]

I emerged firestarter (during which I got iptables), and forgot that I
didn't have iptables emerged prior.  I went into the kernel and selected (as
the doc I found suggests) all of the options as modules under iptables. (The
doc also says that if they are compiled as modules, I didn't need to
reboot).
I did add iptables to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 (for subsequent
rebooting).

modprobe ip_tables results in:
FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables
(/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko):
Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter.

dmesg produces - 
ip_tables: disagrees about version of symbol skb_copy_files
ip_tables: Unknow symbol skb_copy_bits
ip_tables: Unknown symbol nf_register_sockopt
ip_tables: ip_tables: Unknown symbol nf_unregister_sockopt
ip_tables: Unknown symbol nf_unregister_sockopt

(I just found another doc that says to ONLY modprobe IF you haven't built
this as a module)
DOH!

I went back into the kernel config and removed all but the essential options
for iptables... (just iptables module) and rebuilt the kernel

A reboot (aside from losing my wireless), produced an error on boot loading
iptables.
no other text in dmesg points to the problem.

John D




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RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

[John Dangler]

Holly~
The Firestarter kernel requirements doc says - 

*Device drivers 
*Networking support [y]
*Networking support 
*Networking options 
*Network packet filtering [y]
*Network packet filtering 
IP: Netfilter Configuration
(*)

We recommend you enable _everything_ except ipchains support and ipfwadm
support as modules under this menu

In case I did something out to bork this myself, I'm going to unmerge
firestarter and iptables, rebuild the kernel into the state it was before
this started (genkernel --kernel-config=my.old.config all), emerge iptables
(instead of letting firestarter emerge do it), make sure that iptables loads
up ok, then emerge firestarter and configure it.  That way, I can be sure
that it's not me just getting in a hurry to install a package...


John Dangler
GenoFit
800-505-4078 (Corporate)
386-767-3730 (Direct)
866-273-0408 (Fax)
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-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:32 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

John Dangler schreef:
 I emerged firestarter (during which I got iptables), and forgot that I
 didn't have iptables emerged prior.  I went into the kernel and selected
(as
 the doc I found suggests) 


Oh, John, to hell with the doc you found (which look to be from the
Wiki). No offense to the wiki (or to you), but you're really
overcomplicating this. You're probably better off with the Firestarter
docs found here

http://www.fs-security.com/docs/kernel.php

which are complete, and clear, and designed to work with the Firestarter
front end you know, official docs...? :)


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RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

[John Dangler]

ok.  I got a clean kernel and removed iptables and firestarter. I then went
into the kernel config and _only_ turned on iptable support as a module, and
ran modules-update.  all looks ok.  Rebooting the kernel, however, I get
this in dmesg - 
ipw2100: disagrees about version of symbol per_cpu__softnet_data
ipw2100: no version for ieee80211_get_crypto_ops found: kernel tainted.
(a whole lot of these messages listing what appears to be every symbol in
the ipw2100 module)...
then -
ieee80211: disagrees about version of symbol per_cpu__softnet_data
ieee80211: Unknown symbol per_cpu__softnet_data.
(a whole lot of these messages listing what appears to be every symbol in
the ieee80211 module)...
then -
ieee80211_crypt_wep: disagrees about version of symbol ___pskb_trim
ieee80211_crypt_wep: Unknown symbol ___pskb_trim.
(a whole lot of these messages listing what appears to be every symbol in
the ieee80211_crypt_wep module)...

It appears that the version of ipw2100 and/or ieee80211 in portage (stable)
clashes with the version of iptables in portage (stable).

So, either I can have wireless or security...

John D


-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:36 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

Holly~
The Firestarter kernel requirements doc says - 

*Device drivers 
*Networking support [y]
*Networking support 
*Networking options 
*Network packet filtering [y]
*Network packet filtering 
IP: Netfilter Configuration
(*)

We recommend you enable _everything_ except ipchains support and ipfwadm
support as modules under this menu

In case I did something out to bork this myself, I'm going to unmerge
firestarter and iptables, rebuild the kernel into the state it was before
this started (genkernel --kernel-config=my.old.config all), emerge iptables
(instead of letting firestarter emerge do it), make sure that iptables loads
up ok, then emerge firestarter and configure it.  That way, I can be sure
that it's not me just getting in a hurry to install a package...


John Dangler
GenoFit
800-505-4078 (Corporate)
386-767-3730 (Direct)
866-273-0408 (Fax)
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-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:32 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

John Dangler schreef:
 I emerged firestarter (during which I got iptables), and forgot that I
 didn't have iptables emerged prior.  I went into the kernel and selected
(as
 the doc I found suggests) 


Oh, John, to hell with the doc you found (which look to be from the
Wiki). No offense to the wiki (or to you), but you're really
overcomplicating this. You're probably better off with the Firestarter
docs found here

http://www.fs-security.com/docs/kernel.php

which are complete, and clear, and designed to work with the Firestarter
front end you know, official docs...? :)


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RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

[John Dangler]

yep. it's a bug.  As soon as I remove iptables from the kernel config,
ipw2100,ieee80211_crypt_tkip, ieee80211_crypt_ccmp, ieee80211_crypt_wep,
ieee80211 all show up fine in lsmod.  no dmesg errors, and eth1 (wireless)
shows up fine.  Off to bugz to log this.

John D
 

-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:36 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

ok.  I got a clean kernel and removed iptables and firestarter. I then went
into the kernel config and _only_ turned on iptable support as a module, and
ran modules-update.  all looks ok.  Rebooting the kernel, however, I get
this in dmesg - 
ipw2100: disagrees about version of symbol per_cpu__softnet_data
ipw2100: no version for ieee80211_get_crypto_ops found: kernel tainted.
(a whole lot of these messages listing what appears to be every symbol in
the ipw2100 module)...
then -
ieee80211: disagrees about version of symbol per_cpu__softnet_data
ieee80211: Unknown symbol per_cpu__softnet_data.
(a whole lot of these messages listing what appears to be every symbol in
the ieee80211 module)...
then -
ieee80211_crypt_wep: disagrees about version of symbol ___pskb_trim
ieee80211_crypt_wep: Unknown symbol ___pskb_trim.
(a whole lot of these messages listing what appears to be every symbol in
the ieee80211_crypt_wep module)...

It appears that the version of ipw2100 and/or ieee80211 in portage (stable)
clashes with the version of iptables in portage (stable).

So, either I can have wireless or security...

John D


-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:36 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

Holly~
The Firestarter kernel requirements doc says - 

*Device drivers 
*Networking support [y]
*Networking support 
*Networking options 
*Network packet filtering [y]
*Network packet filtering 
IP: Netfilter Configuration
(*)

We recommend you enable _everything_ except ipchains support and ipfwadm
support as modules under this menu

In case I did something out to bork this myself, I'm going to unmerge
firestarter and iptables, rebuild the kernel into the state it was before
this started (genkernel --kernel-config=my.old.config all), emerge iptables
(instead of letting firestarter emerge do it), make sure that iptables loads
up ok, then emerge firestarter and configure it.  That way, I can be sure
that it's not me just getting in a hurry to install a package...


John Dangler
GenoFit
800-505-4078 (Corporate)
386-767-3730 (Direct)
866-273-0408 (Fax)
www.genofit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:32 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

John Dangler schreef:
 I emerged firestarter (during which I got iptables), and forgot that I
 didn't have iptables emerged prior.  I went into the kernel and selected
(as
 the doc I found suggests) 


Oh, John, to hell with the doc you found (which look to be from the
Wiki). No offense to the wiki (or to you), but you're really
overcomplicating this. You're probably better off with the Firestarter
docs found here

http://www.fs-security.com/docs/kernel.php

which are complete, and clear, and designed to work with the Firestarter
front end you know, official docs...? :)


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RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Open Office USE flags

[John Dangler]

Wilie~
Thanks for the reply.  I did leave it out.  I kept reading and couldn't find
anywhere except portage (and the hardened docs) where it would be necessary
for anything in 'daily life'.  And, the references I did find for it were
all linked to PIE.  The USE flags I quoted were from portage.  Looking at
the package and selecting USE flags.  I've taken to looking at all of the
information about a package before emerging -- it saves a lot of backstrokes
in the long run, and I keep notes about which flags I've added to make.conf
for which packages, along with the defaults that are already there...

John D

-Original Message-
From: Willie Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:07 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Open Office USE flags

On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 11:07:52PM -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 Anyone know why Open Office would require USE=???hardened??? ?

huh? To my knowledge, no package would REQUIRE a useflag. 

 Or is this here to show that it can be installed in a hardened Gentoo
environment?

The line IUSE= hardened ... in the ebuild specifies that it CAN
be built with the hardened flag, probably for PIE. 

 I noticed some postings based on people installing it with -hardened (and
having problems), but I don't have a hardened Gentoo install and don't want
this to bork, since I'm sure it will take a while to compile...

OpenOffice is app-office, I highly doubt most people using OpenOffice,
i.e., on a desktop, would seriously need/want hardened. 

Go ahead and emerge it with -hardened. 

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RE: [gentoo-user] [asking again] keyboard/mouse woes on 2.6 kernel

[John Dangler]

I had that same problem with a stage 1 build on my laptop.  My laptop also
has 2 mouse inputs (glidepoint and the ibm button).  I noticed the same
behavior, and modprobing evdev did solve it – sort of. The random jumping
only showed up once in a great while and was only a minor annoyance at that
point.   The kernel at the time was 2.6.7 release.  I had a drive crash on
the laptop, and, when I got it back, decided to reinstall the 2005.1 using
stage 2/genkernel.  I haven’t noticed the problem yet on the new build (been
a week so far)…

John D

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From: Erik Osterholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:55 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [asking again] keyboard/mouse woes on 2.6 kernel


On 8/28/05, Timur Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martins Steinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 mouse support is built into kernel (now in 2.6.13-rc7), not module, xorg
has
 correct entry
 ill try live_cd, maybe find something interesting 


I have reinstalled gentoo 2005.1 (network install with stage1). The
system is currently using devfs and my mouse problem is still there,
exactly the same way as before. So, my theory about udev being the 
culprit is out the window.

I have tried booting from the livecd. I wasn't able to run X with this
configuration, but I tried issuing the cat /dev/input/mice
command. With the livecd, there is data coming back when I turn the 
mouse wheel. When I boot into the gentoo that is installed on the
harddisk and do the same thing, no data comes back when I turn the
mouse wheel.

As a result, I am almost certain that this is related to the kernel 
configuration. Continuing the search...

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Are you using the Event interface?  
CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=m
I get this problem occasionally, mostly with my mouse, when I use my KVM to
switch to my docked linux laptop, and the solution is always to modprobe -r
evdev  modprobe evdev.  It rarely affects my keyboard, so I can usually do
this.  In the rare event of a keyboard problem, I can just ssh in to do it.

I haven't figured out precisely what the problem is, however I've definitely
narrowed it down to the above configuration.  If you are using EVDEV, it may
be possible to configure your kernel/get a working system without it.  If
you aren't using EVDEV, give it a try.  As a module, at least you can
unload/reload it and save yourself a reboot until you figure out what's
really going on.

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RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Open Office USE flags

[John Dangler]

Nick~
Thanks for the reply.  Of all the sources of information possible, I didn't
think of looking through the ebuild for how the flags are implemented!!  I
did notice that portage allows you to view the ebuild (so looking through
the build script before emerging is possible).  Great tip!

John D

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 4:28 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Open Office USE flags

If you really want to know what a USE flag does on a particular ebuild
you have to:

1, read the ebuild and find what the USE flag switches on or off.
2, understand, from your knowledge of the package, what switching that
option on or off does.

for example, in openoffice:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/mediatemp $ grep
hardened /usr/portage/app-office/openoffice/openoffice-1.1.4-r1.ebuild
IUSE=curl hardened java kde nptl zlib
#GCC 3.4 fixes, also needed for hardened
#Fixes for hardened
if use hardened; then
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${PV}/hardened-link.patch

this shows that the effect (and the only effect) of using the hardened
flag is to patch the source with the file
${FILESDIR}/${PV}/hardened-link.patch

Translating, ${FILESDIR} is the files directory
under /usr/portage/app-office/openoffice

${PV} is package version, ie in the case of openoffice-1.1.4 is 1.1.4

so the file is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/mediatemp $
cat /usr/portage/app-office/openoffice/files/1.1.4/hardened-link.patch
diff -ur solenv.orig/inc/unxlngi4.mk solenv/inc/unxlngi4.mk
--- solenv.orig/inc/unxlngi4.mk 2004-10-23 20:09:29.344518376 +0200
+++ solenv/inc/unxlngi4.mk  2004-10-23 20:09:43.084429592 +0200
@@ -156,8 +156,8 @@
 LINKFLAGS=-Wl,-z,combreloc $(LINKFLAGSDEFS) $(LINKFLAGSRUNPATH)

 # linker flags for linking applications
-LINKFLAGSAPPGUI= -Wl,-export-dynamic
-LINKFLAGSAPPCUI= -Wl,-export-dynamic
+LINKFLAGSAPPGUI= -Wl,-export-dynamic -Wl,-z,execheap
+LINKFLAGSAPPCUI= -Wl,-export-dynamic -Wl,-z,execheap

 # linker flags for linking shared libraries
 LINKFLAGSSHLGUI= -shared

you'll have to work out for yourself what this actually does. the
Changelog file might have a clue, or bugs.gentoo.org





On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 02:42 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 Wilie~
 Thanks for the reply.  I did leave it out.  I kept reading and couldn't
find
 anywhere except portage (and the hardened docs) where it would be
necessary
 for anything in 'daily life'.  And, the references I did find for it were
 all linked to PIE.  The USE flags I quoted were from portage.  Looking at
 the package and selecting USE flags.  I've taken to looking at all of the
 information about a package before emerging -- it saves a lot of
backstrokes
 in the long run, and I keep notes about which flags I've added to
make.conf
 for which packages, along with the defaults that are already there...
 
 John D
 

 
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[John Dangler]

Maybe it's me - I don't get it.
www.gentoo-portage.com

front page ...

19884 ebuilds, 9986 Packages, Last Updated At 18:07:35 GMT

John D

esearch | grep for the particular arch seems to retrieve an accurate number
of packages for that arch, as the OP said previously...

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From: Philip Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 4:07 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

050828 William Kenworthy wrote:
 Is there a link that states how many packages are available in gentoo?

When I did my weekly esync yesterday, it indexed  10 350  packages.
'esync' is part of the 'esearch' package.

 Stable, ~x86 etc?

It doesn't distinguish.

If people ask or you want to give the figure in an article somewhere,
the simple answer today is more than 10 000 .

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[gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

[John Dangler]

I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic
of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel).
gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail.  How
does this stack up against Firefox?  I've seen a lot of press about using
one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why.  Is one better
suited to Gentoo than the other? 
(This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote
webserver/site tweaking when needed).

Thanks for the input.

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[John Dangler]

I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an
integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving
towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and
Thunderbird.

So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox
and Thunderbird?  Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since
they're offered by the same org?

Thanks for the input.

John D

-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:33 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic
of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel).
gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail.  How
does this stack up against Firefox?  I've seen a lot of press about using
one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why.  Is one better
suited to Gentoo than the other? 
(This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote
webserver/site tweaking when needed).

Thanks for the input.

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[John Dangler]

Brett~
Thanks for the reply.  I did find some additional information about these
that tells me I should be using Firefox and Thunderbird...
The USE flags on portage for thunderbird don't require gnupg, but I noticed
in Mozilla mail that in order to use encrypted mail, Mozilla mail wanted it.
Is there a gnupg USE flag that will emerge Thunderbird with this feature
built-in?

John D
 

-Original Message-
From: Brett I. Holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:42 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

To me it depends on what you want/need/like.  I don't like Mozilla because 
it has everything in one package.  I like to be able to use Firefox as the 
browser and other programs for news and mail.

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John 
Dangler wrote:

 I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic
 of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and
feel).
 gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail.
How
 does this stack up against Firefox?  I've seen a lot of press about using
 one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why.  Is one better
 suited to Gentoo than the other?
 (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote
 webserver/site tweaking when needed).

 Thanks for the input.

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Holly~
I wish I had know this before emerging gnome... :(
What I may do (just because gnome is such a pig on compilation) is emerge
firefox and thunderbird, and leave it as-is.  I may as well explore the apps
that gnome has been so gracious to include, and then, when I've discovered
which are useful and which aren't, I can go back, unmerge gnome, and emerge
gnome-light and build in what I want to use...

The crux of the issue is that there are thousands of packages in portage
that we (as noob's) don't really know what they are (or what they mean,
since the names are a little cryptic at times), so we plow ahead with what
we think we want, only to discover scenarios just like the one I'm in now.
If it doesn't already exist, I'm thinking of trying to build a set of pages
that gives a friendlier look and feel to portage...

PACKAGE STABLE  OTHER
Thunderbird Mail/News Client1.0.6-r21.0.6-r3
1.0.6-r4
1.0.6-r5 (HARD
MASKED)

Selecting the package name would bring up a page that shows all of the
information...
LONG DESCRIPTION
COMMENTS
USE FLAGS
DEPENDENCIES/REVERSE DEPENDENCIES
SCREENSHOTS
BUGS
CHANGELOG
STABLE w/link
OTHER  w/link

I don't know how far this can go, since some of the packages may not be able
to be named so succinctly, but it may be worth a shot...

John D

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:45 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

John Dangler schreef:
 I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require
an
 integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving
 towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and
 Thunderbird.
 
 So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox
 and Thunderbird?  Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since
 they're offered by the same org?
 

The answer to your question is yes and no.

Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you
have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a
(deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's
web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla).

So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2)
break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but
Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for
one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome
meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as
far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall
Mozilla at every opportunity.

Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall it
in the first place.

The solution? Replace the 'gnome' metapackage with the 'gnome-light'
metapackage, which installs a full GNOME desktop, without the
applications that could be considered 'cruft', such as Mozilla,
sound-juicer, Totem, Evolution (and Evolution Data Server) and GStreamer.

How do you switch when GNOME is already installed?

1) emerge -C gnome.

This will *not* unmerge any applications, just the metapackage itself,
thereby orphaning the dependencies that you want to uninstall.

2) emerge -C the 'extra' programs you don't want (Mozilla, Epiphany,

Evo, EDS, Totem, Sound Juicer, whatever). Also make sure that your USE
flags conform to your choices (add -mozilla, and also -eds if you don't
want evolution-data-server to be re-emerged when you upgrade gnome-panel).

3) emerge gnome-light

This will not emerge anything new (unless you ripped out Nautilus or
something in your purge ;) ), but will 'adopt' all the orphaned GNOME
desktop dependencies that were orphaned by your unmerge of the gnome
meta-package, so when you next emerge -uDv world, if there are updates
to GNOME, they will be picked up (because they are dependencies of the
gnome-light package).

Hope this helps,
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[John Dangler]

Myk~
I just got that message... I went to enigmail.mozdev.org
Current version showing release is v0.92.0
There is an article on the right side that says 0.90.2 - Use this with
Thunderbird 1.0.2
The latest stable version of Thunderbird in portage is 1.0.5 ...

hmm...

So, which version should be used to install from mozdev?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Myk Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:14 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

default gnupg (Enigmail) integration with Thunderbird was removed 
recently because of trouble with the build.  from the ebuild:

 ewarn Enigmail Support has been dropped since it doesn't work on 
fresh install.
 ewarn The Gentoo Mozilla team is working on making enigmail its 
own build,
 ewarn sorry for the inconvenience.  For now, you can download 
enigmail from
 ewarn http://enigmail.mozdev.org;

--myk

John Dangler wrote:
 Brett~
 Thanks for the reply.  I did find some additional information about these
 that tells me I should be using Firefox and Thunderbird...
 The USE flags on portage for thunderbird don't require gnupg, but I
noticed
 in Mozilla mail that in order to use encrypted mail, Mozilla mail wanted
it.
 Is there a gnupg USE flag that will emerge Thunderbird with this feature
 built-in?
 
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[John Dangler]

Ouch!
I just came across this in the release notes for enigmail...

Enigmail needs to be compiled using the same environment as the Thunderbird
or Mozilla Suite you are about to install it on. This usually means that you
should either use the official binary builds of both (the Mozilla
application and Enigmail) - or only use packages provided by your
distribution - or build both manually. For example if you use a distribution
Thunderbird package with the official Enigmail build, you will encounter
problems! 
Enigmail is only tested against the milestone releases of Thunderbird,
Mozilla and Netscape. If you use a nightly, third-party or own build
Enigmail may not always work and may even crash the application!

maybe sticking with Mozilla suite until this gets figured out isn't so
bad...

John D


-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:08 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

Holly~
I wish I had know this before emerging gnome... :(
What I may do (just because gnome is such a pig on compilation) is emerge
firefox and thunderbird, and leave it as-is.  I may as well explore the apps
that gnome has been so gracious to include, and then, when I've discovered
which are useful and which aren't, I can go back, unmerge gnome, and emerge
gnome-light and build in what I want to use...

The crux of the issue is that there are thousands of packages in portage
that we (as noob's) don't really know what they are (or what they mean,
since the names are a little cryptic at times), so we plow ahead with what
we think we want, only to discover scenarios just like the one I'm in now.
If it doesn't already exist, I'm thinking of trying to build a set of pages
that gives a friendlier look and feel to portage...

PACKAGE STABLE  OTHER
Thunderbird Mail/News Client1.0.6-r21.0.6-r3
1.0.6-r4
1.0.6-r5 (HARD
MASKED)

Selecting the package name would bring up a page that shows all of the
information...
LONG DESCRIPTION
COMMENTS
USE FLAGS
DEPENDENCIES/REVERSE DEPENDENCIES
SCREENSHOTS
BUGS
CHANGELOG
STABLE w/link
OTHER  w/link

I don't know how far this can go, since some of the packages may not be able
to be named so succinctly, but it may be worth a shot...

John D

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:45 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

John Dangler schreef:
 I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require
an
 integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving
 towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and
 Thunderbird.
 
 So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox
 and Thunderbird?  Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since
 they're offered by the same org?
 

The answer to your question is yes and no.

Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you
have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a
(deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's
web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla).

So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2)
break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but
Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for
one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome
meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as
far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall
Mozilla at every opportunity.

Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall it
in the first place.

The solution? Replace the 'gnome' metapackage with the 'gnome-light'
metapackage, which installs a full GNOME desktop, without the
applications that could be considered 'cruft', such as Mozilla,
sound-juicer, Totem, Evolution (and Evolution Data Server) and GStreamer.

How do you switch when GNOME is already installed?

1) emerge -C gnome.

This will *not* unmerge any applications, just the metapackage itself,
thereby orphaning the dependencies that you want to uninstall.

2) emerge -C the 'extra' programs you don't want (Mozilla, Epiphany,

Evo, EDS, Totem, Sound Juicer, whatever). Also make sure that your USE
flags conform to your choices (add -mozilla, and also -eds if you don't
want evolution-data-server to be re-emerged when you upgrade gnome-panel).

3) emerge gnome-light

This will not emerge anything new (unless you ripped out Nautilus or
something in your purge ;) ), but will 'adopt' all the orphaned GNOME
desktop dependencies that were orphaned by your unmerge of the gnome
meta-package, so when you next emerge -uDv world

RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

[John Dangler]

After some more reading, I decided to emerge Firefox and Thunderbird
anyway...
It installs fine, except it's really annoying that mousing over a menu
selection turns the colors white on white... (developer's joke, perhaps)
When I go to the extensions dialog, there aren't any.  So, I seect Check for
updates.  Receive a dialog box saying Thunderbird is now checking for
available updates... this may take a few minutes...
Yeah - like 30 minutes and no updates.
So I select Get More Extensions (since the extension dialog box is empty,
I assume that it needs to go and 'find some'...
It launches Firefox to an empty page...

So, if my earlier reading is correct, Thunderbird is broke as far as
enigmail is concerned, unless you download source packages for Firefox,
Thunderbird, and enigmail...

Has anyone had luck getting these modules to run together on Gentoo?

Thanks for the input

John D

-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:01 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

Ouch!
I just came across this in the release notes for enigmail...

Enigmail needs to be compiled using the same environment as the Thunderbird
or Mozilla Suite you are about to install it on. This usually means that you
should either use the official binary builds of both (the Mozilla
application and Enigmail) - or only use packages provided by your
distribution - or build both manually. For example if you use a distribution
Thunderbird package with the official Enigmail build, you will encounter
problems! 
Enigmail is only tested against the milestone releases of Thunderbird,
Mozilla and Netscape. If you use a nightly, third-party or own build
Enigmail may not always work and may even crash the application!

maybe sticking with Mozilla suite until this gets figured out isn't so
bad...

John D


-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:08 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

Holly~
I wish I had know this before emerging gnome... :(
What I may do (just because gnome is such a pig on compilation) is emerge
firefox and thunderbird, and leave it as-is.  I may as well explore the apps
that gnome has been so gracious to include, and then, when I've discovered
which are useful and which aren't, I can go back, unmerge gnome, and emerge
gnome-light and build in what I want to use...

The crux of the issue is that there are thousands of packages in portage
that we (as noob's) don't really know what they are (or what they mean,
since the names are a little cryptic at times), so we plow ahead with what
we think we want, only to discover scenarios just like the one I'm in now.
If it doesn't already exist, I'm thinking of trying to build a set of pages
that gives a friendlier look and feel to portage...

PACKAGE STABLE  OTHER
Thunderbird Mail/News Client1.0.6-r21.0.6-r3
1.0.6-r4
1.0.6-r5 (HARD
MASKED)

Selecting the package name would bring up a page that shows all of the
information...
LONG DESCRIPTION
COMMENTS
USE FLAGS
DEPENDENCIES/REVERSE DEPENDENCIES
SCREENSHOTS
BUGS
CHANGELOG
STABLE w/link
OTHER  w/link

I don't know how far this can go, since some of the packages may not be able
to be named so succinctly, but it may be worth a shot...

John D

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:45 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail

John Dangler schreef:
 I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require
an
 integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving
 towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and
 Thunderbird.
 
 So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox
 and Thunderbird?  Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since
 they're offered by the same org?
 

The answer to your question is yes and no.

Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you
have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a
(deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's
web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla).

So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2)
break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but
Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for
one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome
meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as
far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall
Mozilla at every opportunity.

Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall

[gentoo-user] gaim emerge error

[John Dangler]

I just tried emerging gaim and got this error:
configure: WARNING: Could not find Tcl which is needed for the kadm5 tests
configure: error: Could not find Tcl

!!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report:
!!! /var/tmp/portage/mit-krb5-1.4.1-r2/work/krb5-1.4.1/src/config.log

!!! ERROR: app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.4.1-r2 failed.
!!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0
!!! econf failed

I have krb4 and tcltk set in the USE flags.

I removed the tcltk flag from make.conf

Everything seems to work ok now, except a message I got during the emerge
said to do this:
make sure to run revdep-rebuild .

What exactly does this do?

Should I still send the config.log file in as a bug? (I copied the log file
to another location since I figured /tmp... anything would get overwritten)

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[gentoo-user] openofficeq

[John Dangler]

I know this isn't really the Gentoo (read - Linux) way, but, since I'm using
this for business apps, I need to take the end users point of view for a
moment.  Open Office or the Ximianized Open Office.  I read that Ximian
was bought by Novell, so I'm wondering which of these two portage packages
to get.  www.ximian.org is no longer, apparently, so I'm wondering when this
will turn into a commercial (read - for sale) product.  
I read that the ximianized version is faster to load and run, and I also
read that open office takes a long time to compile, so I'd hate to put the
Ximianized version together and then find out somewhere down the road that
I'd have to dump it and go to the other version.  Any insight here is
greatly appreciated.  I'm finally (after 3 days and nights) getting to the
end of having a basic functioning laptop.

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[gentoo-user] gpg

[John Dangler]

I setup gpg and also set up enigmail to use my key and signature.
when I send an email message I get the following:
Error - bad passphrase
/usr/bin/gpg -charset utf8 -batch -no-tty -status-fd 2 -clearsign
-digest-algo sha1 -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -passphrase-fd 0 -no-use-agent

gpg: skipped [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bad passphrase

gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: bad passphrase

any input, as always, is greatly appreciated.

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RE: [gentoo-user] gpg

[John Dangler]

Ok. I found out that I have gpg setup right.  I also know that if I enable
passphrases for sending mail, and don't use the gpg agent in enigmail, mail
works great!

However, the docs for enigmail also say that you can set no passphrase for
this user and set use gpg agent for passphrase management, but that
borks.

Anyone tried this successfully?

As an OT question, I saw where you can upload your keys to a keyserver.  Is
that the preferred method of validating/trusting others ?

John D


-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:43 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] gpg

I setup gpg and also set up enigmail to use my key and signature.
when I send an email message I get the following:
Error - bad passphrase
/usr/bin/gpg -charset utf8 -batch -no-tty -status-fd 2 -clearsign
-digest-algo sha1 -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -passphrase-fd 0 -no-use-agent

gpg: skipped [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bad passphrase

gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: bad passphrase

any input, as always, is greatly appreciated.

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[gentoo-user] ftp

[John Dangler]

Can someone here recommend a good ftp app that I can use in gnome?

Thanks.

John D



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RE: [gentoo-user] ftp

[John Dangler]

Thanks, John.  After reading through the plethora of apps and googling til
my eyes hurt, I think it's a good start...

John D

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From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:09 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ftp

I like gftp...works in kde, too.
On Saturday 27 August 2005 21:05, John Dangler wrote:
 Can someone here recommend a good ftp app that I can use in gnome?

 Thanks.

 John D

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[gentoo-user] [OT] Open Office USE flags

[John Dangler]

Anyone know why Open Office would require USE=”hardened” ?
Or is this here to show that it can be installed in a hardened Gentoo 
environment?
I noticed some postings based on people installing it with -hardened (and 
having problems), but I don't have a hardened Gentoo install and don't want 
this to bork, since I'm sure it will take a while to compile...

Please reply if you can, I’ve been at emerging/compiling packages for the last 
20 some hours and am finally at the end… ☺

Thanks.

John D





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RESOLVED: [gentoo-user] emerge output

[John Dangler]

Neil, Mariusz~

Thanks for the input.  Just setting up PORT_LOGDIR has gone a long way to
providing exactly what I'm looking for.  It's a shame that this isn't setup
by default, but I can think of a few reasons why it isn't.

John D 

-Original Message-
From: Mariusz Pêkala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:33 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output

On 2005-08-26 01:48:36 +0200 (Fri, Aug), Holly Bostick wrote:
 Idea #3: there is a way (and possibly more than one) to tail out the
 einfo messages, either to a file, or to the console, but unfortunately I
 don't remember what they are atm Oh, wait, they're listed on the Wiki:
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Portage_utilities_not_in_portage
 
 I think what you might want is portlog-info, which is in the
 Informational Utilities section.

...or something dumber^H^H^H^H^Hsimpler:


# ---
#!/bin/bash

COUNT=60

cd /var/log/portage || exit -1

for file in $( ls -1rt | tail -n $COUNT)
do
  if grep $'\e' $file | grep -q -v -e  Applying [^ ]*.patch -e
$'\e'\[32;01mok$'\e'\[34;01m
  then
tput bold
echo ' '
ls -l $file
echo ' '
tput sgr0

grep $'\e' $file | grep -v  Applying [^ ]*.patch
  fi
done
# ---
  
The log files are created when you set the PORT_LOGDIR in /etc/make.conf
(yeah, you replace then that cd /var/log/portage with your - possibly
different - location, or do something like eval $(grep ^PORT_LOGDIR=
/etc/make.conf)) .

HTH

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[gentoo-user] network driver

[John Dangler]

With the laptop base build running, I took my old file server (P3 running
old m$) and decided to convert this to a test server for web dev. I just
went with a stage 3 and genkernel (never tried this before), and the basics
went fine.  I'm up to chap 7.e (looking for .ko), and I need to make sure
that the nic comes up on reboot. The card is a Linksys NC100
(NetworkEverywhere) card.  From what I've read googling and such -
a) I couldn't find a driver, except for win (network-drivers.com)
b) I think the windows wrapper is tulip, but am not sure

One of the google threads I found talked about someone using 'tulip', and
another part of that thread mentioned ndiswrappers.

I would like to think that coldplug and the genkernel way of compiling would
just 'see' the nic card and come up, but I've been wrong before about that.
Any input is appreciated.

(I also have an ATI video card in here [Radeon RT100 QY (Radeon 7000 VE), so
if there's some similar homework I need to do on this one, please share)

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RE: [gentoo-user] network driver

[John Dangler]

I didn't want to just 'try it', since, as I said, I've been wrong before.
I'm not really sure how to install this setup, since my laptop has all new
hardware in it, and the kernel has modules for the laptop.  All of the
information I find in googling is about Linksys wireless cards.  This box is
older (P3 Desktop).  is tulip what I want? or is ndiswrapper?  are they the
same? This is the spot where I'm hung up...

btw - 
lsmod currently shows -
Module  SizeUsed By
tulip   42336   0

thanks for the reply. I appreciate it!

John D


-Original Message-
From: A. Khattri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:26 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] network driver

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote:

 With the laptop base build running, I took my old file server (P3 running
 old m$) and decided to convert this to a test server for web dev. I just
 went with a stage 3 and genkernel (never tried this before), and the
basics
 went fine.  I'm up to chap 7.e (looking for .ko), and I need to make sure
 that the nic comes up on reboot. The card is a Linksys NC100
 (NetworkEverywhere) card.  From what I've read googling and such -
 a) I couldn't find a driver, except for win (network-drivers.com)
 b) I think the windows wrapper is tulip, but am not sure

 One of the google threads I found talked about someone using 'tulip', and
 another part of that thread mentioned ndiswrappers.

 I would like to think that coldplug and the genkernel way of compiling
 would just 'see' the nic card and come up, but I've been wrong before
 about that. Any input is appreciated.

What happens if you do


modprobe tulip


???


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RE: [gentoo-user] network driver

[John Dangler]

I am currently at Chap 7 from the handbook... nowhere near X yet.  I have
the basic system installed, and am nearing the reboot.  I'm trying to find
out what I need to have in modules.autoload.d ...

John D

-Original Message-
From: Ted Ozolins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:45 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] network driver

John Dangler wrote:

With the laptop base build running, I took my old file server (P3 running
old m$) and decided to convert this to a test server for web dev. I just
went with a stage 3 and genkernel (never tried this before), and the basics
went fine.  I'm up to chap 7.e (looking for .ko), and I need to make sure
that the nic comes up on reboot. The card is a Linksys NC100
(NetworkEverywhere) card.  From what I've read googling and such -
a) I couldn't find a driver, except for win (network-drivers.com)
b) I think the windows wrapper is tulip, but am not sure

One of the google threads I found talked about someone using 'tulip', and
another part of that thread mentioned ndiswrappers.

I would like to think that coldplug and the genkernel way of compiling
would
just 'see' the nic card and come up, but I've been wrong before about that.
Any input is appreciated.

(I also have an ATI video card in here [Radeon RT100 QY (Radeon 7000 VE),
so
if there's some similar homework I need to do on this one, please share)

John D





  

I should have added this to my last post. For your radeon card, use the
radeon driver in xorg.conf

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[gentoo-user] [RESOLVED] network driver

[John Dangler]

Ok.  I found some info about tulip drivers.  I added tulip to
modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 and rebooted (while sweating)...
eth0 is up and running fine!

Thanks for all the help. (It's usually a combination of this list, google,
portage, and wiki that solves these problems quick!)

John D

-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:57 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] network driver


I didn't want to just 'try it', since, as I said, I've been wrong before.
I'm not really sure how to install this setup, since my laptop has all new
hardware in it, and the kernel has modules for the laptop.  All of the
information I find in googling is about Linksys wireless cards.  This box is
older (P3 Desktop).  is tulip what I want? or is ndiswrapper?  are they the
same? This is the spot where I'm hung up...

btw - 
lsmod currently shows -
Module  SizeUsed By
tulip   42336   0

thanks for the reply. I appreciate it!

John D


-Original Message-
From: A. Khattri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:26 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] network driver

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote:

 With the laptop base build running, I took my old file server (P3 running
 old m$) and decided to convert this to a test server for web dev. I just
 went with a stage 3 and genkernel (never tried this before), and the
basics
 went fine.  I'm up to chap 7.e (looking for .ko), and I need to make sure
 that the nic comes up on reboot. The card is a Linksys NC100
 (NetworkEverywhere) card.  From what I've read googling and such -
 a) I couldn't find a driver, except for win (network-drivers.com)
 b) I think the windows wrapper is tulip, but am not sure

 One of the google threads I found talked about someone using 'tulip', and
 another part of that thread mentioned ndiswrappers.

 I would like to think that coldplug and the genkernel way of compiling
 would just 'see' the nic card and come up, but I've been wrong before
 about that. Any input is appreciated.

What happens if you do


modprobe tulip


???


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[gentoo-user] sudo

[John Dangler]

Im looking into setting up sudo on my latest test box
(stage3/genkernel 2.6.12r9)

In portage, sudo says Allows users or groups to run
commands as other users. The latest stable shows 1.6.8_p9 (although the one before is it unstable, and the one before that
is stable) hmm

Anyway, the use flags show pam skey
offensive ldap

Pam, I get offensive and ldap  probably wont
use these. But skey

skey says its a Linux Port
of OpenBSD Single-key Password System Thats all the info Ive
been able to find out so far

The connecting page is a Solaris page that doesnt
exist. Im trying to find out exactly what this means, since its
a recommended piece from the Gentoo security handbook.



Any input as always is greatly appreciated



John D

RE: [gentoo-user] Forgotten root password on remote system

[John Dangler]

yeah - and someone using a rootkit was able to successfully login to our old
dedicated server and wreak havoc on it, too.  That led to a complete rebuild
of the server (which now runs seLinux... (Understandably, there may have
been steps we could/should have taken to prevent it, but this was setup by
our isp and was supposed to be 'secure')...

John D

-Original Message-
From: Greg Shikhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:23 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Forgotten root password on remote system

Well, I just remembered hearing about rootkits. I think all you need is
access to a user and a rootkit, but I haven't used one so I wouldn't
know...but a simple google search came up with some linux rootkits :p 



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RE: [gentoo-user] sudo

[John Dangler]

so, the best place to start would be to emerge sudo (and it's dependencies),
and then try and configure it from there... (?) I'm guessing that, with the
use flags set, it would also grab skey...

John D


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:11 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] sudo

John Dangler wrote:
 The connecting page is a Solaris page that doesn't exist.  I'm trying to
 find out exactly what this means, since it's a recommended piece from
 the Gentoo security handbook.

There's a page at the gentoo wiki with some information about how to set
it all up:

S/keys are one time use passwords. You can use them if you need to
provide passwords where someone may be monitoring your keystrokes.
S/keys are generated randomly, usually around 100 are generated at one
time, with a passphrase as a key. (This passphrase is independent of
your main system password.)

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RE: [gentoo-user] Forgotten root password on remote system

[John Dangler]

Hmm - Maybe I need to look into a different service ?

John 


-Original Message-
From: Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:52 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Forgotten root password on remote system

 Wow!  That was decent of them.  Is it a dedicated server or a colo ?
 
 John D

Hey John,

It's a dedicated (not virtual dedicated) box.  They changed the
password and forwarded me the new one.

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[gentoo-user] emerge output

[John Dangler]

I just did an emerge uDv world



during the course of the 22 packages (a lot considering I just
loaded this last night), I got some messages saying please make sure you
run  (I couldnt read it all since it went by so fast) I got
a couple of these before it was over. Is there a way to view that output
after the fact? I didnt see it in either dmesg or any of the /var/log
files 



Thanks for the input.



Regards,



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Dangler

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RE: [gentoo-user] sudo

[John Dangler]

Jonathan, Colleen, Holly~
Thanks for the additional comments.  Am I to understand, then, that I can
emerge sudo without the use of skey?  Since I'm still not entirely sure what
its function is, I'd feel better leaving it alone.  If so, then I'll get it
emerged and follow the posts to get it setup...

Thanks for the reply.

John D


-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:14 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] sudo

C.Beamer schreef:
 John Dangler wrote:
 
 
I'm looking into setting up sudo on my latest test box
(stage3/genkernel 2.6.12-r9)

In portage, sudo says Allows users or groups to run commands as other
users. The latest stable shows *1.6.8_p9 (although the one before is
it unstable, and the one before that is stable) hmm.*

Anyway, the use flags show pam skey offensive ldap

Pam, I get. offensive and ldap - probably won't use these. But skey.

skey says it's a Linux Port of OpenBSD Single-key Password System
That's all the info I've been able to find out so far.

 
 I'm fairly new to Gentoo, so am hardly an authority. However, I do have
 sudo working. This is how I did it.
 
 First, I did emerge --search sudo. Of course this returns the packages
 that have sudo in them. A friend told me to do 'emerge -av package
 name' This lists the available use flags for whatever package you
 name, for instance 'emerge -av sudo', which will list the available use
 flags for sudo.
 
 You also need to install vim because you have to edit the /etc/sudoers
 file in order to add a user name. If you display the sudoers file ('cat
 sudoers') it will tell you that the file *must* be edited by the visudo
 command as root.

You're not quite correct on this; the command that must be used is
indeed visudo, but that does not mean you need to use vi(m) to edit the
file. I do it with nano, myself.

But I think that's because my default editor (in /etc/rc.conf) is nano,
not vi.

 
 In the sudoers file, below the line that reads:
 root ALL=(ALL) ALL
 
 you enter the information for the user.
 
 I have 'colleen' set up as a user on my system, so it inserted the line:
 
 colleen ALL=(ALL) ALL
 
 Someone might be able to give you better instructions related to
 security, but my system is stand alone and ergo colleen and root have
 the same privileges.

The more traditional way to do this is to uncomment the line already
present in the file

# Uncomment to allow people in group wheel to run all commands
# %wheelALL=(ALL)   ALL

Remove the # mark to uncomment the command, and if you are a member of
the wheel group, which you should be, if you want to run su in the first
place (which of course you do, if you want to use sudo), then you're done.

The cool thing about this all is that it allows you to set up aliases in
your .bashrc that make specific commands you might want to run as root
go much faster.

If you also set up a subset of root-only commands (such as emerge,
glsa-check, etc-update, nano /etc/portage/package.keywords) to be
allowed to run without a password, it goes faster still with the use of
aliases, because then you can alias things like

alias emerge='sudo emerge_with_indexing_for_cfg-update'

and then you can just type 'emerge -blah whatever' in a regular old
console and get on with your life. It's not like emerging things doesn't
take long enough without having to type in a password (and since I'm
used to su-ing rather than sudo-ing, I always type the wrong one and get
kicked out anyway ;) so it takes even longer since I have to start all
over again).

There is no real way to make allowing anyone to sudo really secure
(because it's inherently insecure to punch holes in your 'who's allowed
to do what' scheme), other than making sure that you trust those who you
do allow (in this case, since it's yourself, that's not an issue), and
making sure that no one has access to your machine that could use your
trust of yourself against you (i.e., if someone had physical access to
your login, or gained such access through hacking, they would have all
the access of colleen, who has all the access of root, rather than
having to try and brute-force the root password out of you/your system).

But that's what firewalls and encryption (and turning off/logging out of
your PC when irresponsible or untrustowrthy people are around) are for.

Holly
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[gentoo-user] iptables

[John Dangler]

I'm reading through the wiki doc on setting up iptables.  There is a section
there that sets up a file called firewall.sh
i've emerged iptables, but I don't have a file by that name on the system,
and it seems that running /etc/init.d/iptables save writes this file as
/var/lib/iptables/rules-save.  Is there a specific directory where this file
should be written so that running /etc/init.d/iptables save can see it?
Or can the rules-save file be edited and re-written? (It seems as though
running /etc/init.d/iptables save would just over-write rules-save).

Thanks for the input.

John D




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RE: [gentoo-user] Lost Labyrinth

[John Dangler]

Just my .02 worth - anything for *nix with the word basic in it makes me
shudder...
the only other package I know of that used .pb extensions was powerbuilder.
at one time, it had a lot of promising features, but after being bought
twice and totally commercialized, it turned into another Symantec and their
*nix and mac development went out the window...

John D


-Original Message-
From: Matan Peled [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:41 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lost Labyrinth

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Christoph Gysin wrote:
 This is bad. Opensource software shouldn't depend on commercial stuff.

Agreed, I'm not really willing to spend my time on a 'semi-opensource' app
either.

Writing an ebuild for a binary app isn't all that hard, and it might be
accepted
into portage (Other binary games have been accepted, after all).

Good luck, Markus.

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[gentoo-user] what's next

[John Dangler]

So far, I have a stage 2 install with 2.6.12-r9, wireless (ipw2100), intel
modem (compiled in) and alsa (compiled in) on a dell inspiron 8600.  All is
functioning well.

I have the basic system installed and updated on my laptop.
Aside from the problem of the splash, everything seems to be well.
I'm wondering what direction to go next?

I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out!
It's too flaky at the moment.
I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a desktop
environment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a bork
(either from software or operator error)

I'm also thinking that some security would be in order here (anti-virus at
least, but I've also read about others like port sentry, iptables, etc).

As always, any input is greatly appreciated.

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PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)

[John Dangler]

I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but
SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't.
a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? 
b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo
install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems)

Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!

John D

-Original Message-
From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] what's next

On Sunday August 21 2005 11:24 am, John Dangler wrote:
 I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out!
 It's too flaky at the moment.
 I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a
 desktop environment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a
 bork (either from software or operator error)

Personally, I prefer to backup at the partition level. Partimage works quite

well for me.
http://www.partimage.org/

I boot with  SystemRescueCd (has partimage built in) to backup and/or
restore 
my partions.  
http://www.sysresccd.org/

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RE: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)

[John Dangler]

Joe~
Thanks for the reply.  I was reading the information on the system rescue
site (from your last reply), and I think this could work fine.  I'm reading
through the rest of the documentation to see how to use this to perform
backups.  I did notice that SystemRescueCd is currently using a 2.4 kernel.
Have you seen any hiccups using this with a much more current kernel
release? (Mine is 2.6.12-r9)

John D


-Original Message-
From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 5:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's
next)

On Sunday August 21 2005 4:36 pm, John Dangler wrote:
 I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but
 SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't.
 a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running?
 b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo
 install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems)

 Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!

There's really not much use for installing partimage on Gentoo since
partimage 
cannot backup or restore mounted file systems. Unless you want to setup a 
partimage server for other pc's to use, or backup partitions from other 
operating systems while running Gentoo.

SystemRescueCd is an iso file, you use it to burn a bootable cd to perform 
misc tasks on your pc.  Basically, for partimage use... you boot from the
cd, 
mount a partition to write the backup images to and run partimage. 

Highly recommended: http://www.partimage.org/doc/index.html

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[gentoo-user] gensplash oddity

[John Dangler]

Ok - I went back through the wiki article on using gensplash with genkernel.
I used - genkernel --menuconfig --gensplash=livecd-2005.1 all
(I usually --udev on the end, but every time I get told that -udev is
deprecated since it is the default behavior)
At the end of the process, I checked /var/log/genkernel.log .  The last
lines there look like this - 
 Installing gensplash [ using the livecd-2005.1 theme ].
Merging
initramfs-base-layout.cpio.gz
initramfs-aux.cpio.gz
initramfs-busybox-1.00-rt-mdstart.plasmaroo.cpio.gz
initramfs-insmod-0.9.15-pre4.cpio.gz
initramfs-udev-054.cpio.gz
initramfs-modules-2.6.12-gentoo-r9.cpio.gz
initramfs-splash-2.6.12-gentoo-r9.cpio.gz
Gentoo Linux Genkernel: Version 3.3.5
Running with options ; genkernel --menuconfig --gensplash=livecd-2005.1 all

ERROR: Could not copy the initramfs to /boot

(yes, /boot is mounted)

Then, I look at the long list in /boot . (ls -l)

I compiled this today 8/21/05) at around 9pm (2100)

1603780 Aug 21 21:07 kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
10928128Aug 21 21:20 initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r9

I set up an additional grub entry for the splash options on the kernel line,
and rebooted to see what the effect was.
After the initial information at bootup, all I got was a black screen [This
is on a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop. I may have the wrong settings
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), so if anyone knows how to correctly identify this I'd
appreciate it].  I had to power off and on again to get video returned.
I then tried the default r9 kernel boot without the splash - KERNEL PANIC .
vfs out of sync.

I rebooted into the old (r6 kernel), and re-ran 'genkernel --menuconfig
--udev all' (no splash) to rebuild the r9 kernel, rebooted to the r9 kernel,
and all is well.

Anyone offering any assistance with this, please do.  I've gotten everything
in the base system running well except this issue, and I'm about to throw in
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RE: WARNING - reiser and PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)

[John Dangler]

Thanks for the warning Nick.  I've also looked into mondo, but that app has
never worked for me (tried to get it running twice over about a month's
time, with no success).

John D

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From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WARNING - reiser and PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE:
[gentoo-user] what's next)

I helped a bloke install gentoo a few months ago. We downsized his
reiser filesystemed suse install beforehand using the system rescue cd.
It screwed the filesystem - it was unrecoverable. be warned.


On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:00:10 -0400
John Dangler wrote:

 Joe~
 Thanks for the reply.  I was reading the information on the system rescue
 site (from your last reply), and I think this could work fine.  I'm
reading
 through the rest of the documentation to see how to use this to perform
 backups.  I did notice that SystemRescueCd is currently using a 2.4
kernel.
 Have you seen any hiccups using this with a much more current kernel
 release? (Mine is 2.6.12-r9)
 
 John D
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 5:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's
 next)
 
 On Sunday August 21 2005 4:36 pm, John Dangler wrote:
  I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but
  SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't.
  a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running?
  b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo
  install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems)
 
  Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!
 
 There's really not much use for installing partimage on Gentoo since
 partimage 
 cannot backup or restore mounted file systems. Unless you want to setup a 
 partimage server for other pc's to use, or backup partitions from other 
 operating systems while running Gentoo.
 
 SystemRescueCd is an iso file, you use it to burn a bootable cd to perform

 misc tasks on your pc.  Basically, for partimage use... you boot from the
 cd, 
 mount a partition to write the backup images to and run partimage. 
 
 Highly recommended: http://www.partimage.org/doc/index.html
 
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[gentoo-user] security issues

[John Dangler]

With the basic install of gentoo 2.6.12-r9 behind me (forget splash - it's
not worth the headaches right now, and I need more research to find a good
backup solution), I read through the gentoo security doc.  There's a world
of stuff here!
I have a laptop that I'm intending to use for web development (the geek
side) and also for business tasks (the end user side).
I'm wondering how much / how little of the security measures mentioned in
the gentoo security doc I really need?
Or, should I move on to the desktop environment first, and then come back
and tighten down the system?

Thanks for the input - as always, greatly appreciated.

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[gentoo-user] use flags (once more)

[John Dangler]

If I add a USE=whatever to my make.conf file, does that get added to the
flags already in the default profile, or does make.conf override what's in
the defaults file?

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[gentoo-user] alsa config

[John Dangler]

I have alsa configured into the kernel, but I think I goofed reading through
the alsa configuration.
when I run alsaconf, it recognizes the card in the system (intel8x0), but
after I select it, I get a dialog that says:
Configuring snd-***
Do you want to modify err?
Configuring [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
Do you want to modify /etc/modules.d/alsa?
hmm.

any input is appreciated.

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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config

[John Dangler]

I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0, but
the system isn't reading it for some reason.  do I need to unmerge
alsa-driver and start again ?

Thanks for the assistance.

John D


-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:04 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] alsa config

I have alsa configured into the kernel, but I think I goofed reading through
the alsa configuration.
when I run alsaconf, it recognizes the card in the system (intel8x0), but
after I select it, I get a dialog that says:
Configuring snd-***
Do you want to modify err?
Configuring [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
Do you want to modify /etc/modules.d/alsa?
hmm.

any input is appreciated.

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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[John Dangler]

my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf)
alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:

I changed it to
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this:

Loading ALSA modules ...
Loading snd-card-0 ...
FATAL: Module snd_*** not found.[!!]
Loading snd=seq-oss ... [OK]
Loading snd-pcm-oss ... [OK]
ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers [OK]
Restoring mixer levels ...  [OK]


yes, that's an underscore in the FATAL message

(and, of course, after this, alsamixer fails)

Any input is greatly appreciated.

John D


-Original Message-
From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:31 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config

Hi,


 I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in
 snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason.  do I
 need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ?

you only need the alsa drivers if

* you're still on 2.4 kernels
* you haven't activated the in-kernel drivers in your 2.6 kernel

I use the drivers of the 2.6 kernel and am just happy with it.

Check the following:

* The config file is /etc/modules.d/alsa

* Mine contains something like

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

options snd  device_mode=0666

alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

and it works. There are no further ALSA driver configuration files.

After this, try

/etc/init.d/alsasound restart

Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master 
is open and PCM is unmuted and open.


Best regards  good luck,


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[John Dangler]

My .config has -
CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m

John D

-Original Message-
From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:00 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

 From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:42:05 -0400

 my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf)
 alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
 
 I changed it to
 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
 
 I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this:
 
 Loading ALSA modules ...
 Loading snd-card-0 ...
 FATAL: Module snd_*** not found.  [!!]

Just checking the obvious:  Is the module for your sound card compiled and
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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config

[John Dangler]

So, is the solution to unmerge the alsa-driver ?

Thanks for the response

John D

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From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:32 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config


 As I've understood it you either use alsa-driver *or* configure it in
 the kernel *not* both.

at least it's a mess of you do both.

Some people who always want the latest audio drivers don't use the 
kernel drivers but always use the latest alsa-driver packages, but for 
common desktop audio, there's no need for alsa-driver.

Best regards


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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config

[John Dangler]

As I said earlier, I think I goofed here.  if I want to use the kernel
compiled module, will I resolve it by unmerging the alsa-driver ?

Thanks for the input.

John D

-Original Message-
From: Nagatoro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:19 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config

John Dangler wrote:
 I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0,
but
 the system isn't reading it for some reason.  do I need to unmerge
 alsa-driver and start again ?
[...]
 -Original Message-
 From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:04 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] alsa config
 
 I have alsa configured into the kernel, but I think I goofed reading
through

As I've understood it you either use alsa-driver *or* configure it in 
the kernel *not* both.

See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml for more info.


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[John Dangler]

Joe~
(caused by running alsaconf with kernel support enabled),
 My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then
rerunning alsaconf.

if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused the
problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would you
rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ?  wouldn't that cause the same
problem to occur twice?

Thanks for the input.

John D

-Original Message-
From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:18 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

On Saturday August 20 2005 2:42 pm, John Dangler wrote:
 my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf)
 alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:

 I changed it to
 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I had the same problem (caused by running alsaconf with kernel support 
enabled), after fixing my alsa file I couldn't track down where the call for

the snd-*** was coming from.
My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then
rerunning 
alsaconf.

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[John Dangler]

Joe~
That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m)


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-Original Message-
From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:40 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

On Saturday August 20 2005 4:27 pm, John Dangler wrote:
 if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused
 the problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would
 you rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ?  wouldn't that cause the
 same problem to occur twice?

 Thanks for the input.

My recompiled kernel didn't have alsa built-in, it was compiled as a module.

Which is what alsaconf expects. 

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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[John Dangler]

Yep. That's what mine has as well.  I did try modprobe intel8x0 and got
this:
FATAL: Module intel8x0 not found

I appreciate your assistance.  This is the last thing to get the basic
system running... :)

Since both the driver and the kernel compile can't cooperate when both are
on the system, I was wondering if unmerging the alsa-driver, re-compile the
kernel with the existing sound modules, and then re-running alsaconf
wouldn't fix this (?)

John D


-Original Message-
From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:22 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

On Saturday August 20 2005 5:02 pm, John Dangler wrote:
 Joe~
 That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m)

Just peeked at my config, looks like alsa also has to be modular, as well.

# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=m
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[John Dangler]

Mike~
As a matter of fact, no.  all the other snd_ modules show, but not intel8x0

Thanks for the assistance.  This is beginning to give me a slight
headache...

John D



-Original Message-
From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:44 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

 From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:59:46 -0400

 My .config has -
 CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m

and lsmod shows it as loaded, right?
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[John Dangler]

Nick~
I found an instance of the module here - 
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
Curiously enough, there is also this file located here - 
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko

lspci shows the multimedia controller as Intel AC'97 ...

Thanks for the assistance.  I'd like to get this resolved...

John D

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:51 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

On Sat, 2005-08-20 at 16:59 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 My .config has -
 CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m
 
 John D

but does the modules exist?

search under /lib/modules`uname-r` or zgrep /proc/config.gz



 
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:00 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
 
  From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
  Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:42:05 -0400
 
  my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf)
  alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
  alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
  
  I changed it to
  alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
  alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
  
  I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this:
  
  Loading ALSA modules ...
  Loading snd-card-0 ...
  FATAL: Module snd_*** not found.  [!!]
 
 Just checking the obvious:  Is the module for your sound card compiled and
 installed?
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[gentoo-user] RESOLVED alsa config

[John Dangler]

Uereka! it's okay.
I unmerged the alsa-driver, re-compiled the kernel, reset the sound
emulation, and all is well.  Thanks for all the help!!!

Now, maybe I can attack the splash hiccup...

John D

-Original Message-
From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config

On Saturday 20 August 2005 14:31, Christoph Eckert wrote:
 Hi,

  I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in
  snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason.  do I
  need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ?

 you only need the alsa drivers if

 * you're still on 2.4 kernels
 * you haven't activated the in-kernel drivers in your 2.6 kernel

 I use the drivers of the 2.6 kernel and am just happy with it.

 Check the following:

 * The config file is /etc/modules.d/alsa

 * Mine contains something like

 alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
 alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
 alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

 options snd  device_mode=0666

 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

 and it works. There are no further ALSA driver configuration files.

 After this, try

 /etc/init.d/alsasound restart

 Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master
 is open and PCM is unmuted and open.


 Best regards  good luck,


 ce

I have a question about that...using the in-kernel alsa drivers and I get 
sound fine with xmms under kde, but the system notification sounds are 
silent.  I'm kinda mystified.
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[gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

[John Dangler]

I changed some options to the menuconfig (trying to get that splash to
work), and saved the changes to an alternate config file.
I'd like to make a kernel with _that_ config file and keep it separate from
my default 2.6-r12 kernel, since, when the splash causes the panic, I have
some way to get back in.

How do I compile a new kernel that I can add to the grub.conf with the
alternate config ?

Thanks for the input

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[gentoo-user] USE flags

[John Dangler]

I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop.  I'm
trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of 'default'
settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From
what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of
default USE= flags.  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference
between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my
own make.conf file?

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[gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

I just finished the base install of the 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6).  When I
run emerge -sync, and then emerge -uDvp system, I get a short list updates
that portage wants to emerge, but there aren't any kernel updates.  However,
if I run emerge -uDvp world, there is a new version of the gentoo-sources
(2.6.12-r9).  Why wouldn't kernel updates be included in a system emerge?

Thanks, as always, for any input.

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

[John Dangler]

That fails with this...
!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.
3
John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] =net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)

.

.

.

[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb

[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb

 

After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.

 

John D

 

 


  

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.

Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

[John Dangler]

That makes some sense. (Gentoo is all about choices)
So, basically, I emerge the new 'slot' and then re-compile the new kernel
version according to the handbook, giving me both the existing kernel
version and the new version...

John D


-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:
 I just finished the base install of the 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6).  When I
 run emerge -sync, and then emerge -uDvp system, I get a short list updates
 that portage wants to emerge, but there aren't any kernel updates.
However,
 if I run emerge -uDvp world, there is a new version of the gentoo-sources
 (2.6.12-r9).  Why wouldn't kernel updates be included in a system emerge?

The packages in your system come from
/etc/make.profile/packages
(Note: do *not* edit this file)

The packages considered for world are the ones from system plus the ones 
in /var/lib/portage/world
The world file is where portage records the packages you emerged, e.g. 
when you typed emerge gentoo-sources it recorded it there.

I suppose the reason the kernel is not in the system file is that this 
file is a kind of 'factory-defaults', which you shouldn't be normally 
changing. But there is more than just one kernel source tarball avilable 
in portage, e.g. gentoo-sources, vanilla-sources and some more. Putting 
this in the system file would unnecessarily constrain your choice as to 
which kernel to run.

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RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags

[John Dangler]

The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming.  And many of them, I
wouldn't really know if I need them or not.  So far, since I only have the
base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a
graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE=-X with the system level apps
(although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like
cdrtools/dvdrtools).

I did find the defaults (thanks!) and have added those as comments in my
make.conf file just for my own reference.

I figure that the next step (aside from the reading of the online docs) is
to get cd tools and anti-virus (clam looks good) running.

At the point that I think I have everything at this level, I intend to back
it up (jic), and then install X, sound, and get a graphical environment
running - at least that looks to be the most logical next steps...

I really appreciate the feedback!!!

John D

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From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:51 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

John Dangler wrote:
 I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop.  I'm
 trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of 'default'
 settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From
 what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of
 default USE= flags.  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference
 between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to
my
 own make.conf file?

The relevant part in the docs:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2

A list of all USE flags:
http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

Marco
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RE: [gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

[John Dangler]

Does the moving of the config files have any effect on the already compiled
kernel? (I was under the impression that a .config _went with_ a specific
build) or is that a throwback to too much time in a m$ environment?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:46 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

John Dangler wrote:
 I changed some options to the menuconfig (trying to get that splash to
 work), and saved the changes to an alternate config file.
 I'd like to make a kernel with _that_ config file and keep it separate
from
 my default 2.6-r12 kernel, since, when the splash causes the panic, I have
 some way to get back in.
 
 How do I compile a new kernel that I can add to the grub.conf with the
 alternate config ?

The kernel config file used for compiling the kernel is called .config
So, to compile a kernel with that config file, just replace the .config 
with your alternate file, saving the old .config of course if you want 
to keep it:
mv .config my-old-config
mv my-new-config .config
(do this in the kernel source dir)
  You might have to call 'make clean' before you compile your new 
kernel, i'm not 100% sure on that -- it won't harm though.
You can add as many kernels to your grub config as you like -- you might 
want to check with the install guide how to do that exactly:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=10

Basically, your second kernel gets the same kind of entry just as your 
first, but you will want to change the title and of course the kernel 
(the root line should be the same as in the first block). Move your 
kernel under the name you specified to the same location where your 
other kernel is, using the name you specified in the config. (you will 
probably have to mount your /boot partition to do all this naturally)

I.e. add an extra block something like this to your grub.conf:

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r11
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11

Marco
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

[John Dangler]

Would 

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-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:31 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

That fails with this...
!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.

John D

Would the solution be to unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0, then emerge -uDv world, then
emerge ipw2100 ?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] =net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)
.
.
.
[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb
[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb

After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.

 

John D

 

 


  

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.

Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

Peter


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[RESOLVED] RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags

[John Dangler]

And how I hate to miss out on anything! :)

Thanks, again Marco.

John D

-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

John Dangler wrote:
 The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming.  And many of them, I
 wouldn't really know if I need them or not.  So far, since I only have the
 base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a
 graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE=-X with the system level
apps
 (although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like
 cdrtools/dvdrtools).

just add the ones you need -- you're not missing out on anything :)
you can always add them later on when you need them

 I really appreciate the feedback!!!
no problem

Marco
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[gentoo-user] wireless update [was update with B]

[John Dangler]

running emerge -uDvp world, I got a block between ipw2100 and ieee-80211.
I ran emerge -C ipw2100, and the block cleared, although ieee80211 was no
longer in the update list either.
Since it was recommended to have both of these on the system in order for
the wireless to work correctly,
is that a bug or do I really not need both of these on the system?
the install is 2005.1 2.6.12-r6 on a dell i8600
Thanks as always for any input.

John D




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RE: [gentoo-user] where's the splash?

[John Dangler]

Uwe~
Yes, please share!  I'd be interested to see how this goes together
John D


-Original Message-
From: Uwe Thiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] where's the splash?

On 16 August 2005 20:28, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Chris Cox schreef:

  I've never had any problems getting either livecd2005.0 or 2005.1

 Would you share your grub.conf line, the listing of files in the
 /etc/splash/livecd-2005.1/images directory, and the text of
 /etc/splash/livecd-2005.1/1280x1024.cfg, if it's not too much trouble?
 Neither livecd theme (2005.0 or 2005.1) works for me (and they both fail
 in exactly the same way), so I'd like to know why if possible (just
 haven't had time to dedicate to investigating it). I'd much rather be
 using that theme than emergence (even though emergence has a matching
 GDM theme. I don't care. I don't like emergence very much :) ).

Do you realise that it's rather easy to create your own splash theme if you 
use genkernel? Even with a matching background picture for grub. If people 
wee interested in it I could post a step-by-step recipe. 

Uwe

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[gentoo-user] Install pcmcia-cs (during install)

[John Dangler]

The handbook instructs USE=-X emerge pcmcia-cs



emerge returns: emerge: there are no ebuilds to
satisfy pcmcia-cs



Anyone know why this is returned?



John D

[gentoo-user] 2005.1 basic install - restart

[John Dangler]

2005.1 / 2.6.12-r6

reboot after basic install, I get a message that says

mount: wrong fstype, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3 or too
many mounted filesystems

* error mounting local filesystems



in fstab  

/dev/hda3 /tmp reiserfs noatime,notail 0
0



John D

[gentoo-user] where's the splash?

[John Dangler]

I setup my grub.conf so that I could see the splash screen
on startup  but it doesnt show. Did I miss something?

grub.conf has  vga=0x318
video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=silent



was there something else I needed to do in order for this to
work?

John D

RE: [gentoo-user] where's the splash?

[John Dangler]

Joshua~
removing the vga= statement only makes the font size much larger on startup,
but doesn't produce the splash.  I also tried removing the video= but that
doesn't do it, either.  what else could I be missing?



-Original Message-
From: Joshua Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:28 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] where's the splash?

the vga= line contradicts the video= line.  Try dropping the vga=
argument.

On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 21:03 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
 I setup my grub.conf so that I could see the splash screen on startup
 - but it doesn't show.  Did I miss something?
 
 grub.conf has . vga=0x318 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 splash=silent
 
  
 
 was there something else I needed to do in order for this to work?
 
 John D
 
  
 
 

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RE: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 basic install - restart

[John Dangler]

is it possible that this error is due to
the fact that I named the partition /tmp ?





-Original Message-
From: John Dangler
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:24
PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] 2005.1
basic install - restart



2005.1 / 2.6.12-r6

reboot after basic install, I get a message that says

mount: wrong fstype, bad option, bad superblock on
/dev/hda3 or too many mounted filesystems

* error mounting local filesystems



in fstab  

/dev/hda3
/tmp
reiserfs
noatime,notail 0 0



John D

RE: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 basic install - restart

[John Dangler]

strange I let the system boot, and
then manually mounted /tmp like :



mount /dev/hda3 /tmp



it worked!



why wont this mount at boot ???





-Original Message-
From: John Dangler
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:49
PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] 2005.1
basic install - restart
Importance: High



is it possible that this
error is due to the fact that I named the partition /tmp ?





-Original Message-
From: John Dangler
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:24
PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] 2005.1
basic install - restart



2005.1 / 2.6.12-r6

reboot after basic install, I get a message that says

mount: wrong fstype, bad option, bad superblock on
/dev/hda3 or too many mounted filesystems

* error mounting local filesystems



in fstab  

/dev/hda3
/tmp
reiserfs
noatime,notail 0 0



John D