Re: [gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome! [SOLVED]
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 18:41 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: This is usually caused by a missing/crashing/failing window manager. The default window manager in Gnome is metacity (IIRC). If you use compiz/beryl/compiz-fusion, this may be separated into a different program called the window decorator. The perferred window decorator for Gnome is heliodor (IIRC). Since your KDE window manager seems to work, you should be able to start gnome and then start: kwin --replace on the same display to get a more functional Gnome desktop. Yeah, metacity went bad. I reran it and my title bars came back. Thank you! -Michael Sullivan- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.4: window tabbing?
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:08:05 +0700, Robin Atwood wrote: Do you use Oxygen or anything else as window decorator? I use crystal, where tabbing does not work. However, after I changed to Oxygen, it did. So the Decorator has to support it. Thanks, that's the problem, I use Crystal. Changing to Oxygen makes it all work. Bummer, I don't much like Oxygen. ;) Currently, it only works with Oxygen. Now that 4.4 is out and more people will want this feature, the devs of the other themes will make the necessary changes. -- Neil Bothwick I work with User-Surly Software. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] compiz-fusion
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Hung Dang hungp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I try to set up compiz-fussion with GNOME desktop using information from wiki page ( http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Compiz-Fusion). Compiz seems to work , however, I experience the rendering problem and the title bar of opened applications are missing. I am using compiz version 0.8.6. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Hung Did you set 'window decorator' to 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' or 'emerald --replace' in compiz? -- Nguyễn Bảo Ngọc
Re: [gentoo-user] compiz-fusion [SOLVED]
Thanks a lot. After I set windowmanager to compiz everything seems to be OK now. Hung On 05/29/10 06:58, Ngoc Nguyen Bao wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Hung Dang hungp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I try to set up compiz-fussion with GNOME desktop using information from wiki page ( http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Compiz-Fusion). Compiz seems to work , however, I experience the rendering problem and the title bar of opened applications are missing. I am using compiz version 0.8.6. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Hung Did you set 'window decorator' to 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' or 'emerald --replace' in compiz?
Re: [gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!
On Sunday 19 August 2007, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!': I logged into GNOME, no programs had title bars, and I couldn't Alt+TAB between them. How can I fix this? How can I even find out exactly what package is causing the problem? When I log in, I get a message - something about accessibility, but everything else seems normal except for the lack of title bars. This is usually caused by a missing/crashing/failing window manager. The default window manager in Gnome is metacity (IIRC). If you use compiz/beryl/compiz-fusion, this may be separated into a different program called the window decorator. The perferred window decorator for Gnome is heliodor (IIRC). Since your KDE window manager seems to work, you should be able to start gnome and then start: kwin --replace on the same display to get a more functional Gnome desktop. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.4: window tabbing?
Am Samstag, 13. Februar 2010 schrieb Robin Atwood: Has anyone got the much vaunted window-tabbing of KDE 4.4 working? I have set my middle mouse button to Start window tab drag but when I try it nothing happens. Searching, I found references to a window menu option Move window to group but I don't have that. I don't think there is a USE option I have missed. Anybody have better luck? Do you use Oxygen or anything else as window decorator? I use crystal, where tabbing does not work. However, after I changed to Oxygen, it did. So the Decorator has to support it. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' How are things in the collective? - Perfect. (Captain Jainway to the Borg queen) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.4: window tabbing?
On Sunday 14 February 2010, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Samstag, 13. Februar 2010 schrieb Robin Atwood: Has anyone got the much vaunted window-tabbing of KDE 4.4 working? I have set my middle mouse button to Start window tab drag but when I try it nothing happens. Searching, I found references to a window menu option Move window to group but I don't have that. I don't think there is a USE option I have missed. Anybody have better luck? Do you use Oxygen or anything else as window decorator? I use crystal, where tabbing does not work. However, after I changed to Oxygen, it did. So the Decorator has to support it. Thanks, that's the problem, I use Crystal. Changing to Oxygen makes it all work. Bummer, I don't much like Oxygen. ;) Cheers -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
[gentoo-user] compiz-fusion, emerald and xfce
Hi, for some reason I do not get compiz-fusion running with xfce. I installed from portage tree and not from xeffects overlay. I want to use emerald as window decorator. Therefore I added in ccsm under window decorations - command emerald --replace. Using compiz-start seems to start compiz, but not emerald, since I do not get window frames. I also tried a small start script: #!/bin/bash compiz --replace sleep 5 emerald --replace This does not work, too! Any ideas how to get xfce and compiz running together? By the way, I was using compiz from the xeffects overlay, starting it fusion-icon, which worked fine. But after upgrading to portage tree compiz, there is no fusion-icon anymore. Regards, Marc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated
Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Yes, it's bleeding-edge :-) This is in an effort to get some performance out of what should be a very decent video card. It also eats babies, or more often the window decorations on konsole. I've had a similar issue (similar in that it was not exclusive to konsole) and tracked it down to having the KDE_IS_PRELINKED env var set while KDE was actually *not* prelinked. So check if that's the case on your system. PS: Give Yakuake a try; it doesn't even need a decorator. I only recently discovered it and after using it for a few minutes I even went as far as trying to unmerge Konsole ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided
I have x11-wm/beryl-0.2.1 installed on a stable system. One of its dependencies is ~x11-wm/aquamarine-0.2.1 which dies during compilation. This is fine with me because I installed beryl issuing: emerge --resume --skipfirst and it works OK. My problem is that portage wants to pull in aquamarine every time I execute: emerge -DuN world or emerge --depclean. Following the official docs [1] I did echo x11-wm/aquamarine-0.2.1 /etc/portage/profile/package.provided but it doesn't seem to help. I guess you are using heliodor or emerald as window-decorator. You can try to unset the kde use flag for the beryl ebuild which tries to pull in aquamarine. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem with Kde 4.1.X
Hi, I have searched on google and bugtrack for weeks for people with a similar problem with the new kde 4.1.X but I didn't find anything. I have some problem even to describe the problem beacause I don't know how to figure out what is wrong with my system. The real problem is that kde 4.1.X didn't start if I use kwin. I only get it start if I use another window decorator (for example compiz). I have tried with 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 but with the same problem. After the login screen i get the splash screen but at the end of the sequence I'm kicked out to the login screen. I need some advice to how and where begin to search for the problem. Which file I need to parse in search of the problem? Is there on the ML someone whith the same problem? Xorg:1.5.3-r1 nvidia-drivers:177.82 kernel:2.6.27-r7 Intel Core2Duo 8400 nvidia geforce8800GT Thanks Nicola
[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with Kde 4.1.X
Nicola wrote: Hi, I have searched on google and bugtrack for weeks for people with a similar problem with the new kde 4.1.X but I didn't find anything. I have some problem even to describe the problem beacause I don't know how to figure out what is wrong with my system. The real problem is that kde 4.1.X didn't start if I use kwin. I only get it start if I use another window decorator (for example compiz). I have tried with 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 but with the same problem. After the login screen i get the splash screen but at the end of the sequence I'm kicked out to the login screen. I have that too now but only after emerge updated to KDE 4.1.4. 4.1.3 was working fine. I didn't try to solve it since I use KDE3 and installed KDE4 only to check it out.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated
On Friday 15 August 2008 09:10:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Yes, it's bleeding-edge :-) This is in an effort to get some performance out of what should be a very decent video card. It also eats babies, or more often the window decorations on konsole. I've had a similar issue (similar in that it was not exclusive to konsole) and tracked it down to having the KDE_IS_PRELINKED env var set while KDE was actually *not* prelinked. So check if that's the case on your system. Not the case here. Not even I would dare try prelink KDE4 just yet :-) PS: Give Yakuake a try; it doesn't even need a decorator. I only recently discovered it and after using it for a few minutes I even went as far as trying to unmerge Konsole ;) I know about Yakuake, exceptionally nice console. I used it for a while, but found it interferes with my custom toolbar that drops down from the top edge. Maybe I should just try it again, I see there's a version 4 in the overlay these days -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] aiglx/beryl: xfce, firefox issues
Hi, I successfully managed to run AIGLX+Beryl with the following system: videocard: ati radeon 9200se xorg: 7.1 (stable, from Portage) beryl: 0.1.4 (~x86, from Portage) window decorator: emerald 0.1.4 (~x86, from portage). xfce: 4.2 (stable, from Portage) It works mostly OK, but I have two serious issues: 1)I have a Firefox instance on desktop A. I do switch (by clicking on pager, no cube etc.- cube is not working btw) to desktop B, then again to desktop A. The firefox window often is no more visible on desktop A, nor it appears in the Expose plugin. I can see it on the task bar and click it, but it doesn't apper. I do have to close it and restart it. It seems other apps do not suffer this problem. 2)The xfce standard pager doesn't show windows in other beryl desktops, only in the current active desktop. Where can I look for hints on what's wrong and how to solve it? Thanks, m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided
On Tue, 8 May 2007 17:39:17 +0200 Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have x11-wm/beryl-0.2.1 installed on a stable system. One of its dependencies is ~x11-wm/aquamarine-0.2.1 which dies during compilation. This is fine with me because I installed beryl issuing: emerge --resume --skipfirst and it works OK. My problem is that portage wants to pull in aquamarine every time I execute: emerge -DuN world or emerge --depclean. Following the official docs [1] I did echo x11-wm/aquamarine-0.2.1 /etc/portage/profile/package.provided but it doesn't seem to help. I guess you are using heliodor or emerald as window-decorator. You can try to unset the kde use flag for the beryl ebuild which tries to pull in aquamarine. Thank you! Indeed I'm using heliodor and removing the kde USE flag did the work for me but the question (now just out of curiosity) still remains. -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde 4.3 + compiz = no window border
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Ngoc Nguyen Bao baongoc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, when i replace the kde windows manager with compiz, all windows lost their window border, and i cannot move the window. how can i fix this? -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/ Well, maybe you're not turn on Window Decoration and Move Window plugins. Run ccsm and enable them. And remember to put emerald --replace in command field of Window Decoration plugin. -- Nguyễn Bảo Ngọc http://www.facebook.com/pymaster cool, add emerald --replace in compiz decorator, and the problem solved. thanks. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiz-Fusion does not show windows border
Don't forget to enable window decoration feature (run ccsm) and select your decorator. I'd recommend using fusion-icon, makes things much more accessible. Cheers, P. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.comwrote: Hello mates, I'm running Gentoo ~amd64 I try to install compiz-fusion, following the wiki, everything seems to be fine, but when I try to run compiz-fusion, it works but not so well, because does not show me windows border, also I put compiz-fusion to use indirect rendering and loose binding but none of this works. I'm stuck. Here is my emerge --info: http://tinypaste.com/43af1 Extra: INTEL GMA VIDEO_CARDS= intel I'm using i915 driver (enabled modesetting on intel by default) What is wrong?? Regards, -- Carlos Sura.-
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiz-Fusion does not show windows border
On 27 January 2011 15:09, PK pkugri...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget to enable window decoration feature (run ccsm) and select your decorator. I'd recommend using fusion-icon, makes things much more accessible. Cheers, P. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.comwrote: Hello mates, I'm running Gentoo ~amd64 I try to install compiz-fusion, following the wiki, everything seems to be fine, but when I try to run compiz-fusion, it works but not so well, because does not show me windows border, also I put compiz-fusion to use indirect rendering and loose binding but none of this works. I'm stuck. Here is my emerge --info: http://tinypaste.com/43af1 Extra: INTEL GMA VIDEO_CARDS= intel I'm using i915 driver (enabled modesetting on intel by default) What is wrong?? Regards, -- Carlos Sura.- Hello, I've already did that, but isn't working yet... Is there something else?? I really want to have compiz-fusion working. -- Carlos Sura.-
Re: [gentoo-user] compiz-fusion, emerald and xfce
Marc Blumentritt schrieb: Hi, for some reason I do not get compiz-fusion running with xfce. I installed from portage tree and not from xeffects overlay. I want to use emerald as window decorator. Therefore I added in ccsm under window decorations - command emerald --replace. Using compiz-start seems to start compiz, but not emerald, since I do not get window frames. I also tried a small start script: #!/bin/bash compiz --replace sleep 5 emerald --replace This does not work, too! Any ideas how to get xfce and compiz running together? By the way, I was using compiz from the xeffects overlay, starting it fusion-icon, which worked fine. But after upgrading to portage tree compiz, there is no fusion-icon anymore. Regards, Marc I had the same problem with getting compiz-fusion to work under xfce and the portage ebuilds. I never used the xeffects overlay for compiz-fusion only for the old beryl. I used this command: compiz --loose-binding --replace ccp emerald --replace A strange thing is that it only works when I execute it a few times. The first time I had no window decorations! Another thing is when I want to go back to the xfce window manager the decorations vanished again, the mouse pointer too. I could only bring them back by deleting a few config files in my home-directory. Furthermore the dependency for libwnck was raised a few days ago which resulted in pulling the unstable gtk+ glib and pango packages in. This hosed all my apps requiring gtk which means nearly everything. I downgraded but this did not help. I had to unmerge and then reemerge glib to get things working again. So I think I will leave my fingers from compiz-fusion until it is more stable or anybody knows a solution to this problems! Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Kde 4.1.X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Nicola wrote: Hi, I have searched on google and bugtrack for weeks for people with a similar problem with the new kde 4.1.X but I didn't find anything. I have some problem even to describe the problem beacause I don't know how to figure out what is wrong with my system. The real problem is that kde 4.1.X didn't start if I use kwin. I only get it start if I use another window decorator (for example compiz). I have tried with 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 but with the same problem. After the login screen i get the splash screen but at the end of the sequence I'm kicked out to the login screen. I need some advice to how and where begin to search for the problem. Which file I need to parse in search of the problem? Is there on the ML someone whith the same problem? Xorg:1.5.3-r1 nvidia-drivers:177.82 kernel:2.6.27-r7 Intel Core2Duo 8400 nvidia geforce8800GT Thanks Nicola Hello, This may or may not be your problem, but I have found xorg-sever-1.5.3 and xorg-server-1.5.3-r1 to be unstable. However, xorg-server-1.5.2 works fine for me. I just masked the other two. What I mean by unstable is that they will lock up my system - the mouse and keyboard won't work, so I have to do a hard boot. Regards, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJJcbq9AAoJEIAhA8M9p9DAx7gP/2CBubwV5g+21f9r4QWxEQx2 Xv4pFYUz4oLI/b/JY2jBIXm+lMm88lToetneP8yLgjdTCadxDmB36dKyWqVo5aul TxphaB+uw50WEEN1ayYzVT4xWUCme63DxGsLGRjL+cID0xpvw42DJIvACaR94LOm GJAiHgt6SjoHHcizHqi5JJ6gpDZxgBGBYhlSqpRqgJAJUYIWDi/4FqUyGbIi6u2K S/6D+3SUI09SuPveCRwwdWzp11kcJFXlLVGb0w5A2Om69rxajGSIRoqle3aU+twO jx3CHpF4vCA9yg5aQaQ4kyILuss7cKnCfQt/8a+yU9KJYUjP5eWLExqSnYnDbmdU sFDgpGpgkez4OQikNKG4ti1xBXkjX1kLzCMj4Axda6ZuKRpAslGvOY4xeR5cDJ5S OSMuVu/C41C8BiWICQgQixhIuTROBo0pdoBXQDJMod0aLxfLtM/hBjBVDQphBt6i wUlgHEcFpSQJQwa+Cp4lc1SrZwNXPtYlT4Ma7Nhdcf7mX2VeJcbh8kio1pNwFGKp 9BZIwkIAsZiD44fUsB/iT0kMeG4DaOHoz+cs+mHBCW/onBH78RJCyEhEvHMiuTu2 HZlFWY6VMIcd52yQsJQdu0Ck3dEXnjSGG1q/JeISi5UbI5V05Am/pF6oolGykNca K7HSh3AOPaR9TA5Nxuj1 =C553 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Kde 4.1.X
Alle sabato 17 gennaio 2009, Chris Walters ha scritto: Nicola wrote: Hi, I have searched on google and bugtrack for weeks for people with a similar problem with the new kde 4.1.X but I didn't find anything. I have some problem even to describe the problem beacause I don't know how to figure out what is wrong with my system. The real problem is that kde 4.1.X didn't start if I use kwin. I only get it start if I use another window decorator (for example compiz). I have tried with 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 but with the same problem. After the login screen i get the splash screen but at the end of the sequence I'm kicked out to the login screen. I need some advice to how and where begin to search for the problem. Which file I need to parse in search of the problem? Is there on the ML someone whith the same problem? Xorg:1.5.3-r1 nvidia-drivers:177.82 kernel:2.6.27-r7 Intel Core2Duo 8400 nvidia geforce8800GT Thanks Nicola Hello, This may or may not be your problem, but I have found xorg-sever-1.5.3 and xorg-server-1.5.3-r1 to be unstable. However, xorg-server-1.5.2 works fine for me. I just masked the other two. What I mean by unstable is that they will lock up my system - the mouse and keyboard won't work, so I have to do a hard boot. Regards, Chris Thanks for the reply, I didn't find xorg 1.5.3 unstable, I use every day with kde 3.5.10 or gnome. I had the mouse and keyboard problem too, but I resolved commenting out the entry in my xorg config file and switching to udev for keyboard and mouse configuration. I will try compiling switching back to 1.5.2 to see if something changes. Thanks again Nicola
Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated
On Friday 15 August 2008 15:41:04 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX series doesn't really have 2d hardware anymore - everything is done in the 3d part - and the drivers to support that are harder to write than anticipated. Sorry for the delayed reply. nvnews was unreachable for me all yesterday afternoon. This post is straight from the horses mouth, from Aaron Platter. He's the nvidia driver author: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1704502postcount=17 Compiz window resizing is slow for a number of reasons mostly related to the inefficient way that the X server resizes redirected windows. Performance should be significantly better with InitialPixmapPlacement=2, except that most window decorators use currently- unaccelerated convolution filters for their shadows, bogging it down. Please try solid resizing with IPP=2 and the window decorator disabled, to see how much of an effect it has. Improving the performance of convolution filters and redirected window resizing in general is something we're working on for future driver releases. Also, you should see a significant improvement in redirected window resizing performance with IPP=1 if you use one of the xserver 1.5 prereleases. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated
On Samstag, 16. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 15:41:04 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX series doesn't really have 2d hardware anymore - everything is done in the 3d part - and the drivers to support that are harder to write than anticipated. Sorry for the delayed reply. nvnews was unreachable for me all yesterday afternoon. This post is straight from the horses mouth, from Aaron Platter. He's the nvidia driver author: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1704502postcount=17 Compiz window resizing is slow for a number of reasons mostly related to the inefficient way that the X server resizes redirected windows. Performance should be significantly better with InitialPixmapPlacement=2, except that most window decorators use currently- unaccelerated convolution filters for their shadows, bogging it down. Please try solid resizing with IPP=2 and the window decorator disabled, to see how much of an effect it has. Improving the performance of convolution filters and redirected window resizing in general is something we're working on for future driver releases. Also, you should see a significant improvement in redirected window resizing performance with IPP=1 if you use one of the xserver 1.5 prereleases. I don't use compiz ;) and people have reported slowdowns even with kde3.5.9 - with 4.1 it is just much severe. And when I say 'severe' I talk about lagging for several seconds between 'key pressed' and 'sign appears on screen'. Or 'mouse button pressed' and 'desktop menu appears' and even more seconds between 'menu appears' and 'menu reacts to input'. Yes, all that IPP and glyphcatch stuff helped a bit. But they made user stuff slower. So at the end zero or very small actual improvements.
[gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome
Howdy, After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering ebuild testing, I decided to give Xgl a try. The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth. Big THANK YOU to those responsible! The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too. Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE. Not pretty. :-( I figured I could live: * with old fashioned decorations, * without my background image, * with my panel stretching across both monitors, * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display, * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu. But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning. So bye-bye Xgl. OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use gnome. Next gen KDE should have similar features. Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it looks. :-) Installed gnome. Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome sessions. I don't really see how to do this with one display manager. Not sure how to configure to run multiple display managers. Currently I use xdm to run kdm. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome
Lord Sauron wrote: On 3/30/06, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too. I'm extremely interested in Xgl. I didn't know it was hanging around Gentoo. Can you send me the link? Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE. Not pretty. :-( I figured I could live: * with old fashioned decorations, * without my background image, * with my panel stretching across both monitors, * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display, * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu. Can you try and get me some more detailed info? I'm a information gatherer for the Xgl project. I'm supposed to be ensuring that it has perfect integration with KDE. But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning. So bye-bye Xgl. Even more interesting... Could you get some more info for me there too? Perhaps a few clips from the log file? Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome sessions. I don't really see how to do this with one display manager. Not sure how to configure to run multiple display managers. Currently I use xdm to run kdm. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry for taking so long to respond, I took a spur of the moment vacation. The instructions for XGL are at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL I'll run another test this evening of Xgl+KDE to capture details. Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The X11-trap: Once back on textconsole...and no one comes back ever...
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 10:35:06AM -0500, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > I ran into this one (1) time just after switching to the 4.4.0 kernel. > I have an Intel HD4400 Integrated graphics card on an Asus Z87 MBoard. > (Intel i915 driver) I, too, started experiencing graphics problems with 4.4.0 on my Netbook with a Sandy Bridge Celeron. It happened a few times after suspend to ram or even after switching to a TTY and back to X. X thus became very laggy or even unresponsive. I remember one evening on which I had to reboot several times within an hour. On my Haswell PC I occasionally get glitches in my window decorator (Crystal on KDE4). Oooh.. there's a 4.4.1 patch available, I'll give it a spin. Because I sometimes experienced strange system behavior, I made it a habit of always running make clean before building a kernel, even on a patch-level upgrade. > To escape, I used another device to log into the machine > (ServerAuditor on my Android phone via wireless) > and did a shutdown. Reboot worked (via SSH or maybe three-finger-salute, can't remember exactly), but very slowly. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any social network. Corners are funny -- if you cut off one, another one appears! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome
On 3/30/06, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering ebuild testing, I decided to give Xgl a try. Neat-o. Is it in the ~x86 area? The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth. Big THANK YOU to those responsible! The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too. I'm extremely interested in Xgl. I didn't know it was hanging around Gentoo. Can you send me the link? Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE. Not pretty. :-( I figured I could live: * with old fashioned decorations, * without my background image, * with my panel stretching across both monitors, * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display, * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu. Can you try and get me some more detailed info? I'm a information gatherer for the Xgl project. I'm supposed to be ensuring that it has perfect integration with KDE. But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning. So bye-bye Xgl. Even more interesting... Could you get some more info for me there too? Perhaps a few clips from the log file? OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use gnome. Next gen KDE should have similar features. Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it looks. :-) It's not *bad,* but I find it incredibly bland. It's useable, though I can't say it's much more... Installed gnome. Weee... have fun? Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome sessions. I don't really see how to do this with one display manager. Not sure how to configure to run multiple display managers. Currently I use xdm to run kdm. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome
As far as I know, you can still only get Xgl from a portage overlay. Check the Gentoo Forums and you'll find a bunch of links to what you're looking for. I've had it working for some time, and it's good, but extremely buggy and not suitable for production environments (obviously :) Here's part three of the huge Xgl discussion. Part 1 is where the original overlay is at:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-442410-highlight-xgl.html On 3/31/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/30/06, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering ebuild testing, I decided to give Xgl a try. Neat-o.Is it in the ~x86 area? The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth.Big THANK YOU to those responsible! The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too.I'm extremely interested in Xgl.I didn't know it was hanging around Gentoo.Can you send me the link? Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE.Not pretty.:-( I figured I could live: * with old fashioned decorations, * without my background image, * with my panel stretching across both monitors, * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display, * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu.Can you try and get me some more detailed info?I'm a information gatherer for the Xgl project.I'm supposed to be ensuring that it hasperfect integration with KDE. But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning.So bye-bye Xgl.Even more interesting...Could you get some more info for me there too?Perhaps a few clips from the log file? OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use gnome. Next gen KDE should have similar features. Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it looks. :-)It's not *bad,* but I find it incredibly bland.It's useable, thoughI can't say it's much more... Installed gnome.Weee...have fun? Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome sessions.I don't really see how to do this with one display manager. Not sure how to configure to run multiple display managers.Currently I use xdm to run kdm. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list--== GCv3.12 ==GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y= END GCv3.12 --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Jason Weisberger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg 7.0+composite+radeon OSS drivers+radeon9200se : X cpu usage sometimes rockets to 80%
b.n. wrote: Richard Fish ha scritto: Yeah, I'm not a fan of Xgl either, but I am of AIGLX, and I was under the impression that the open source radeon driver had good support for AIGLX. I'm using nvidia, so I had to wait for the 9xxx driver release before I could use it... :-( I was under the impression AIGLX was dying in favour of Xgl. Well, I'll do my research :) Quite the other way around, as far as I've been able to tell. Xgl got greater publicity, yes, but AIGLX is the one that will eventually be the official solution - it's already present in Portage's xorg-server in some form. By the way, the latest beta drivers from nVidia provide the OpenGL extension that Compiz and Beryl use, so you don't even need AIGLX nor Xgl, and DRI can remain enabled (wobbly quake3! ^_^). My laptop at the moment has no overlays at all - xorg-server from ~x86, compiz from ~x86, and nvidia-drivers in package.unmask - and it's all working very nicely. :) Hopefully other driver devs will follow suit. I find the task switcher that displays live images of the windows, and the scale effect (move the cursor to a corner of the screen and all windows shrink and tile on the screen, and then you click on the one you want to switch to) to be the most useful, Yes, an Exposè-like thing would be really useful. Is it *fast*? Yes. I tried compiz+AIGLX on my old Celeron 1.5GHz with integrated motherboard video (eeew!) just for kicks and it ran fairly smoothly - modest framerate, but definitely usable. If you mean literally fast, then also yes - all of the animations happen within half a second or so (not that I've measured ;)). There's a key shortcut, too, if you want to see jiggly windows in slow-mo. (shift-f10 is the default, I believe? Someone help me out on that one.) although I could watch my windows wobble and jiggle all day! lol! That is awfully cute. :) My favorite feature is the window scaler. Oh, and the way the rest of the desktop sort of drops into the background while Alt-Tabbing - it's subtle but cool. For simple things like shadows and transparency, that could be done independently of the window manager. But for more complicated effects, like the task switcher, or being able to animate window operations, or flash windows that want attention, or the desktop cube thingy, you need tighter integration with the window manager. Sigh. I see. I wonder if/when common WMs/DEs will support these things out of the box (KDE, XFCE and Fluxbox are my favourites :) ) It depends on how important the WM is to the whole thing, you see. Compiz and its fork, Beryl, work very well with Gnome and KDE because the window manager isn't very important to them - it does very little besides manage windows, while (in Gnome for example) gnome-session and Nautilus do a lot of work as well. There's even a separate program that handles window decorations (gnome-window-decorator in Gnome, kwin I think in KDE). On the other hand, with Fluxbox, Openbox, and similar, the WM is all there is, so it's a big deal to change it. You can't have Compiz integration in Fluxbox, since they both do the same thing, and will refuse to run at the same time. I have, however, heard rumours of an Openbox clone with some Compiz code spliced into it in initial development... :D m. Ryan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xgl, masked packages, and me going crazy ()
On Sun, Юли 2, 2006 3:24 am, Jason Weisberger wrote: Daniel, Unmasking libdrm won't hurt a thing. If you're already using modular x, it's probably already installed in it's stable version. You will need a few things to get XGL running with NVidia's proprietary drivers, such as an alpha version of Mesa, new versions of glitz and much more. Checking out the HOWTO_XGL page on gentoo-wiki.com will tell you exactly what you need to install. Just look at Hanno's overlay to see what you're putting on your computer. Jason, thank you very much for your reply! Your guess is correct. I have a stable modular xorg-server-1.0 and xorg-x11-7.0 installed from the official portage. Following your advise I checked the gentoo-wiki-xgl article again. I saw there are changes, but it (again) lead me to unmasking many packages and finally installing xorg 7.1. So I reverted the changes and tried another approach. I removed the portage-xgl overlay and checked-in hanno-xgl. Much better! Thanks again, Jason! I tried to emerge compiz directly but it needed to get unkeyworded. The following packages: x11-wm/compiz media-libs/mesa x11-libs/libdrm x11-base/xgl dev-util/git media-libs/glitz found the way to get their names listed in /etc/portage/package.keywords :) Now emerge -p compiz xgl has no complains. Actually all dependencies got emerged, but compiz fails with: ---snip Making all in kde Making all in window-decorator Making all in po Source compiled. Test phase [not enabled]: x11-wm/compiz-0.0.16_pre20060628 Install compiz-0.0.16_pre20060628 into /var/tmp/portage/compiz-0.0.16_pre20060628/image/ category x11-wm -snip make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/portage/compiz-0.0.16_pre20060628/work/compiz/po' --snip make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/portage/compiz-0.0.16_pre20060628/work/compiz/po' make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: x11-wm/compiz-0.0.16_pre20060628 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_install ebuild.sh, line 1013: Called src_install compiz-0.0.16_pre20060628.ebuild, line 61: Called die !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. !!! This ebuild is from an overlay: '/usr/portage/local/layman/hanno-xgl' That's it. I have the feeling I'm very close to achieving the final goal, but I need more help. :) I will highly appreciate any advise. Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg 7.0+composite+radeon OSS drivers+radeon9200se : X cpu usage sometimes rockets to 80%
Before answering comments: well, tonight I've seen there must be something definitely wrong with my XFCE/Composite setup.No more full-time CPU hogging, but switching desktops rapidly became a pain -lags of *seconds* with CPU whirling at nearly 90% in between. I had to kill xcompmgr. Back to plain old vanilla X. Ryan Tandy ha scritto: I was under the impression AIGLX was dying in favour of Xgl. Well, I'll do my research :) Quite the other way around, as far as I've been able to tell. Xgl got greater publicity, yes, but AIGLX is the one that will eventually be the official solution - it's already present in Portage's xorg-server in some form. It's nice to have learned this. The big big buzz around Xgl led me think quite the contrary, I was aware of AIGLX and that the two projects are planning to merge, but I thought Xgl would have engulfed AIGLX code, not vice-versa. By the way, the latest beta drivers from nVidia provide the OpenGL extension that Compiz and Beryl use, so you don't even need AIGLX nor Xgl, and DRI can remain enabled (wobbly quake3! ^_^). My laptop at the moment has no overlays at all - xorg-server from ~x86, compiz from ~x86, and nvidia-drivers in package.unmask - and it's all working very nicely. :) Hopefully other driver devs will follow suit. Wow! That's a big step towards what I wanted to hear -integrated 3d desktop without having to hack around with X.I don't like to use ~x86 for critical packages like X, but I hope 7.1 will be x86 relatively soon... Time to switch to a nvidia card (maybe for christmas? hmm, I need a laptop too, but a bit more bucks for a nvidia card... mmm, yummy. what relatively cheap (100 euros) nvidia card would you advice?) Yes, an Exposè-like thing would be really useful. Is it *fast*? Yes. I tried compiz+AIGLX on my old Celeron 1.5GHz with integrated motherboard video (eeew!) just for kicks and it ran fairly smoothly - modest framerate, but definitely usable. If you mean literally fast, then also yes - all of the animations happen within half a second or so (not that I've measured ;)). Good news. That is awfully cute. :) My favorite feature is the window scaler. Oh, and the way the rest of the desktop sort of drops into the background while Alt-Tabbing - it's subtle but cool. I think so. Hmm. I'm beginning to get interested. Sigh. I see. I wonder if/when common WMs/DEs will support these things out of the box (KDE, XFCE and Fluxbox are my favourites :) ) It depends on how important the WM is to the whole thing, you see. Compiz and its fork, Beryl, work very well with Gnome and KDE because the window manager isn't very important to them - it does very little besides manage windows, while (in Gnome for example) gnome-session and Nautilus do a lot of work as well. There's even a separate program that handles window decorations (gnome-window-decorator in Gnome, kwin I think in KDE). On the other hand, with Fluxbox, Openbox, and similar, the WM is all there is, so it's a big deal to change it. You can't have Compiz integration in Fluxbox, since they both do the same thing, and will refuse to run at the same time. I have, however, heard rumours of an Openbox clone with some Compiz code spliced into it in initial development... :D I understand, but having each WM to separately rewrite support for 3d is a PITA (for developers, mostly), in my opinion. I can't believe no one is thinking to a global solution that every WM can enable. As far as I know, X programming is a wild bad devil, so kudos to the AIGL-X-gl developers nevertheless, but... Anyway, when I'll come back to setup a GL desktop, I can switch back to KDE and use Beryl. But having integrated things in KDE 4 would be... mm... ok, stop the wet dreams NOW. (Oh, about wet dreams: for the selective transparency idea, any possibility/news? whom should I ask about it? I feel I like and need it so badly that I can't believe someone with real coding skills isn't thinking about it) m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)
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