Re: [gentoo-user] (Newbie)Emerge Problem
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:49:49 +0530 Sumeet Pal Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am having problems with emerge working during installation. I have Pentium4 with HT PC, and tried to install gentoo-2005 twice, eveything was fine ,hardware was easily detected, but network did not work well with proxies. I did $export http_proxy=http://spsingh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3128 but links2, emerge do not work. You'll need quotes - export http_proxy=http://spsingh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3128 Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] world problems
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:08:04 -0500 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about wars all over the place. I'm doing my monthly update on my emergency backup machine. Here's what I've run into. Has pmidi been deprecated? Don't think so. And don't run - emaint -f world. It'll remove it and any updates won't occur. Here's my list of what it want to take out of the world file - 'app-emulation/crossover-office-bin' has no ebuilds available 'games-fps/unreal-tournament-bonuspacks' has no ebuilds available 'media-libs/epeg' has no ebuilds available 'media-fonts/acroread-asianfonts' has no ebuilds available 'sci-astronomy/setiathome' has no ebuilds available 'media-tv/xawdecode' has no ebuilds available 'games-fps/unreal-tournament-goty' has no ebuilds available I suspect a bug, but haven't gotten to the bug list to see if it's been filed or not. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ebuild for dev-java/sun-j2sdk?
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:48:25 +0100 Peper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While writing this i thought about smth: cannot displaying licenses be implemented in emerge? If you want to progress(fetch the file) you must accept displayed license. Maybe sun will be happy with that... Licenses are displayed for those that have CDs - like UT2004. The license comes up during the install and must be accepted or not (and the install exits). But Sun requires a person to accept the license before the download can occur. Click on the SDK and it takes you to a separate page with a long legal license with an accept or decline. Then it triggers the download. Sun's website handles all that, not the target system. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] world problems
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:52:16 -0800 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115593 That's with portage-2.0.53, right? Zac Yes, that's it. From the bug, it seems the problems are in the ebuilds. However, the updated portage's solution is to remove them from the world file. Thus a loop gets created - emaint --fix world removes the packages) regenworld adds the packages back in. emerge -uDNav world generatea the error - Problems have been detected with your world file Please run emaint --check world While there are problems, though I'm not sure what exactly they are, the new portage notes them. Then puts itself in a, slow, loop with some hope someone else knows how to fix the problems. The problem portage thinks that exists seems to be with some allowed keywords and masked packages, not as it reports - no ebuilds available. Though, it could be technically argued that using x86, ~x86, and -* in /usr/etc/portage.keywords, on my system is incorrect. It is somewhat misleading to say - no ebuilds available, implying that no ebuilds with the arch keyword of the running system is available. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A few (gentoo-newbie) questions (mainly about binary packages)
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:24:58 +
Richard Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1)My main machine is a laptop, so it doesn't really have either the disk
space for sources or CPU power to compile everything
kernel,X,kde,openoffice ...). Is there a way to do a binary install that
will get me a fully working system within a few hours?
I just installed Gentoo onto a 640 MHz PIII that had a 4GB disk drive. Upside,
it took all of about 1 hr from a 2005.1 Stage3 CD, to get to the shell.
Downside,
2005.1 still has the old gcc, so it took a few days to upgrade gcc to 3.4,
emerge -e system,
emerge ufed, set the USE flags, then emerge -e world. But I only use
Enlightenment
or fluxbox. If you want KDE, emerge something really lightweight - fluxbox and
rox,
then let KDE crank in the background. Also, you'll need - laptop-mode-tools.
2)How exactly do gentoo security updates work? Under Mdv, there is a
mailing list with announcements of which RPMs to install. If I have a
binary-based distribution, will it be possible to keep it current?
The is a gentoo-announce list that the security updates get sent out on.
Typically, if
you're doing a daily syncs, the updates show up before the announcement.
3)Is there a relatively stable fork of gentoo with less frequent
updates, or do I have to stay on the bleeding edge? Of course I want to
get eg the latest kernel, or firefox, but I ran Mandrake Cooker for a
while, with 100MB of updates per day and all sorts of random breakage!
If you run a straight arch flag, like x86, vs unstable - ~x86, then you'll
not see
lots of updates. But, running a desktop means you'll see more packages
changing.
The other consideration is Gentoo is source based. Thus the dependencies on
specific
revisions of libraries is somewhat relaxed. And you control the interrelated
dependencies.
Thus fewer packages will change vs a binary based dist. Though with
heavyweight desktops
like KDE and Gnome, there will be more related lib changes to occur, it's just
the nature
of the beast.
4)Does anyone know of a good resource for ex-mandriva users?
Sorry, the best thing is just go through the installation guide and the Portage
related
documentation. As there are no GUI based system management tools, you'll be
doing more editing of config files. Also, leaving the world of chkconfig and
/etc/rc.*
for rc-update, /etc/init.d/ and /etc/runlevels/{boot, default,network,single}
will
be like a breath of fresh air.
Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:08:02 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to find out what each device node is connected to hardwarewise? I'm wonderine if /dev/video0 is NOT the correct device for my tv card, and if one of the other sixty-three /dev/video* nodes, but I don't want to have to go through each individual one. Is there an easier way? I'm guessing you're running devfs? Thus every node in the world. If not, and you really are running udev, then edit /etc/conf.d/rc and change - RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=yes to no and reboot. That should clear out all the useless nodes. Have you tried /dev/video1? Also, do all nodes exists in /dev/v4l? If I were running MythTV, I'd have select one of the modes from - chi rsanders # ls -l /dev/v4l total 0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 64 Dec 30 06:57 radio0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 65 Dec 30 06:57 radio1 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 224 Dec 30 06:57 vbi0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 228 Dec 30 06:57 vbi4 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 232 Dec 30 06:57 vbi8 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 0 Dec 30 06:57 video0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 16 Dec 30 06:57 video16 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 24 Dec 30 06:57 video24 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 32 Dec 30 06:57 video32 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 48 Dec 30 06:57 video48 According to xawdecode -h, -c video device video4linux video device. For devfs enabled systems, default is /dev/v4l/video or /dev/v4l/video0, in that order. For non devfs systems, default is /dev/video or /dev/video/video0 or /dev/video0, in that order. Note that on /proc enabled systems, video device detection is automagic. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:40:06 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't see anything there that hinted at being my TV card, yet I KNOW it's in there. It works great in Windows. It's a Hauppage WinTV-PVR-250. Why doesn't it show up in /dev? Well, I've got the PVR-350. Have you re-emerged the ivtv drivers? They should be something like - [MU] media-tv/ivtv (0.4.0-r3): ivtv driver for Hauppauge PVR PCI cards Also, in /etc/modules.d, do you have - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ more /etc/modules.d/ .keep aliases alsa alsa.old i386 ivtv ivtv-fb nvidia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ more /etc/modules.d/ivtv alias char-major-81 videodev alias char-major-81-0 ivtv alias char-major-81-1 ivtv alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c #add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c Ans is the card showing up when you type - lspci? 02:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 17:47:19 -0800 Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that something is not stable with the X server or with the card drivers. For now, perhaps forget MythTV and just see if you can get a stable input running with something like tvtime - [ N] media-tv/tvtime (0.9.12): High quality television application for use with video capture cards. Forget I mentioned tvtime. It doesn't work with ivtv. Best one can do is to set the input with ivtvctl, record some test footage - cat /dev/v4l/video0 test.mpg, then see if it can be played back with mplayer. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 18:42:09 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, I tried setting up the evilwm stuff from the MythTV section on the Gentoo wiki. I ran kdm and selected Custom and logged in as my test user. The screen cleared and then it spit me back out at the kdm login screen. I looked at /var/log/kdm.log and everything looks normal to me: You didn't do anything wrong. And I'm not sure why it's kicking you back out. In my case, I run XDM and use Enlightenment as the window manager. With both being defined in /etc/rc.conf. Mythfrontend does run fine with that combo. One thing I note is the backend is still telling you that mythsetup hasn't been run to attach a channel to the port and to the rest of the setup. That step is not detailed in the wiki. You need to assign the those via mythsetup, before running the front end Surf to - http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html and scroll down to jusr passed the STOP sign, and work through - Mythtv-setup. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:17:27 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried the test cat /dev/video0 test.mpg and opening it in mplayer and all I got was the blank screen. Blank screen indicates no signal. I tried it with /dev/video24 and got static Typical tuner input, no channel, aka white noise. and with /dev/video32 I got weird polygonal images. Probably a station close by, but not tuned in - a tuner input or possible the FM radio port. I think mythfrontend is freezing up after that 1.5 seconds because it takes awhile to get back to the menu screen. Why is /dev/video spitting out nothing now, when it was just fine before I followed the mythtv howto? Typically a channel and input needs to be switched on before anything will display. Another way to test is to listen if there is audio, but the screen is still blank. That indicates an incorrect display setting, possibly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade + gcc dilemma
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:50:10 -0600 Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my problem is, how do I avoid the extra 100, unnecessary compiles? I tried emerge --emptytree --upgrade -p but it ignored the upgrade option so I can't combine them that way. Simply put you can't. The base system - emerge -e system, has to be done once and that gets everything in the system profile built with gcc 3.4. However, both gcc and glibc need to be rebuilt again after the first pass, and anything using glibc needs to be rebuilt after glibc has been recompiled, thus the - emerge -e world. Think about it this way - things like binutils and linux-headers are used with gcc-3.4 and the old glibc to rebuild glibc. But the new glibc is different than the old glibc, thus bin-utils is working with pointers to places in glibc that may not exist any more. Thus needs to be rebuilt with the new glibc, as does ncurses, zlib and a ton of other things. One thing you could do to speed up the emerge -e system pass is to add a - USE=-X -doc to avoid building Xorg on the system pass. Still it take two complete passes to use both the new gcc and the glibc compiled with the new gcc. Look ate the output of emerge -ep system. All those packages before glibc have to be rebuilt after glibc has been rebuilt. And all the packages after glibc that have dependencies on the previous packages have to be rebuilt after the previous packages have been built with the new glibc. This is essentially what occurs during a Stage 1 install and /usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh is run - multiple passes, rebuilding the system profile in a specific sequence. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:50:31 -0800 Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One other thing - if you're using a 64-bit machine, you'll need to run - mplayer-bin test.mpg to see the default capture. The format isn't recognized in the 64-bit version of mplayer because the codecs are 32-bit. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dell LCD display
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:04:48 -0600 Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking about getting one of the Dell Widescreen Ultrasharp LCD displays. Has anyone used one under Gentoo (x86) and how good is it? If you're referring to the 24 model - 2405FPW, yes I'm running on an amd64 under Gentoo. For one, you'll need a Gfx card that can drive a digital display at 1920x1200. Most inexpensive Gfx cards have a high end that stops at 1600x1200. Plus, you'll need a mode line for any resolution above 1280x1024 on most Gfx cards, though some laptops will work above that without a mode line. Regardless, this mode line work - Modeline 1920x1200 154.0 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync And this Modes line needs to added to the Display section - Modes 1920x1200 1600x1200 1400x1050 1280x1024 800x600 640x480 fwiw - I'm using an Nvidia 6600 Gfx card to drive the panel. It's great on text and 3D games - well, ut2004. I haven't run any other games seriously. As to watching DVDs or live video feeds, it's very good in a window, but a bit flat looking at full screen. Perhaps because it's so bright and I'm running the brightness at 0. But backing up from it to about 6 ft and it's mostly ok at full screen DVD playing. I've seen better, but not at this price and resolution. btw - Dell has it on sale for US$830 this weekend. My other complaint is Dell's color preset - it's non standard. Instead of listing preset color temperatures - 5500, 6500, 7000, they use PC standard, Mac standard, Blue, and Red. Without going through a setup procedure, it's hard to figure which corresponds closest to 6500, the NTSC color balance standard for video. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world?
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:58:07 +0100 Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, [blocks B ] media-libs/libungif (is blocking media-libs/giflib-4.1.4) [blocks B ] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r4 (is blocking app-text/poppler-0.4.3-r4) [empty/missing/bad digest]: sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r6 [blocks B ] =x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3 (is blocking x11-libs/motif-config-0.9) I get these blocks when trying to emerge world. I can't seem to figure out why for any of them. Can someone shed some light? emerge -C libungif xpdf emerge -uDNav world emerge -uDNav xpdf Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:44:19 +1000 Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I ask others' experiences with e17? I just wasted my holiday installing e17 on two of three machines. It is smaller than Kde, but background is 20% of cpu . Buggy. Beautiful. A PITA to configure, and menus suck. I don't think I'll be there long. I liked enlightenment .16 except I guess I really do need icons to remind me of what I've got on the system, and good menus. I used it a bit. Reminded me too much of WinXX/KDE/Gnome do I went back to e16.7. Icons can be added with Rox and Rox-session. Menu editing is easy with e16menuedit and key editing with e16keyedit. I still haven't decided to dump e17 for real, but in looking back, I did note how heavy KDE 3.5 is. Gnome: my employers already treat me like a child; I need options and flexibility. It's also possible to use engage with e16.7. giving a task bar at the bottom of the screen. But one glaring deficiency keeps hitting me in the face---you can't do links with them. Noone has figured out how to make links user friendly? It's too complicated for the end user? Rox filer lets me make links. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware Testing a PC
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:26:23 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try searching Freshmeat for stress test, there are several programs to put network, CPU, I/O etc. through their paces. There's also StressLinux, a live CD containing a number of these programs. emerge -uDNav stress Generally, it's best to add - emerge -uDNav rss-glx The start up one or more of the screensavers via the commandline - /usr/lib/misc/xscreensaver/skyrocket which will test both openGL and sound. Add stress on the command line and that takes care of most things except 2D dma. But because desktops, like KDE, Gnome, e17, all use a layer over the X root window, one can't see the test happen. Assuming e16, flux, openbox, etc. a script would be created that does the following - Sets up odd and even forefground and background with solid colors like blue, green, red, yellow. Sets the bitmap path to /usr/include/X11/bitmaps and then create a loop that takes the bitmaps, one by one, found in the previous path and rotates each one though xsetroot - xsetroot -bitmap $bgpath/$bg -fg $oddfg -bg $oddbg Then sleep for a few sec, and get the next combo. Then do all the even background combos. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3dlabs Wildcat Realizm
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:04:53 +0100 (CET) Álvaro Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, any one uses Wildcat Realizm? No, but I did use a VP970 for awhile. The problem you;ll have is that Gentoo moves much faster than 3DLabs, and much faster than Xig, which used to supply the Linux driver for the older 3DLabs card (technically, the Xserver as well). 3DLabs, somewhat like ATI is more concerned with their WinXX customers - the big OEMS, big dmedia customers, and others where they can make the most of Marketing messages, and sell numerous cards. Nvidia is like this as well, but internally, has a large base of Linux using developers - not Linux specific developers, but devs that won't use other operating systems. Thus tended to get through the Linux ramp-up for drivers really fast as it had a large self-interest. So expect to have to stay on the same kernel/Xorg for a really long time. Best to switch over to just updating for GLSA issues and running a really stable system. And then when you do upgrade, expect to have to deal with the issue again. Most of 3DLabs' base will buy a set of systems and cards for a specific project, and after the 3 yrs or so the project runs, move on to the next project, at which time they will update the software and probably hardware as well. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD 64 bit system selections
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:58:53 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the best 64 bit processor choice for performance for Gentoo? Dual-core? Perhaps you should ask what the best price performance/watt in the cpu range? Generally it's best to figure out your needs and then calculate the cost for each step up in cpu power to meet those needs. Complimentary ram specs? Personally, I prefer 2-2-2 or 2-3-2.5 ram, but it's expensive and not all applications benefit. Mobo recommendations (lm_sensors and acpi support) in a 19 inch rack? Tyan or Super Micro tend to be better choices. N+1 redundant power supply recommendations? Vendors change every year. If you've got big bucks and can find someone that will sell single units - Delta. Otherwise, whomever can meet the current demands. 10/100/1000 Ethernet support? On the motherboard - best is typically Broadcom or Intel. The rest are pretty good. What's the friendliest high end video card for displaying video (fast motion) that has open source drivers? Multiple displays? Doesn't exist. But Nvidia is the better bet as their drivers tend to work more often. Which Sata-2 drives give good performance and size (400 G or more)? What's the best Raid level to run for storing, searching and manipulating tons of video, and should I get a Gentoo friendly controller or use software raid? For video data, use a linear stripe across two controllers. And at least three controllers for HD video. But HD video requires SCSI or SAS, stripped across multiple controllers and 15Krpm drives in the arrays. Finally which file system would one recommed for this video server with the best, stable performance. XFS. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD 64 bit system selections
For video data, use a linear stripe across two controllers. And at least three controllers for HD video. But HD video requires SCSI or SAS, stripped across multiple controllers and 15Krpm drives in the arrays. I should be a bit more detailed. For - Uncompressed SD video - 60 MB/s sustained. 3 to 4 IDE drives striped will do. Uncompressed HD video, up to 1080i - 270 MB/s sustained - 3 disk controllers, 3 disk arrays, 15 Krpm drives. Uncompressed HD video 1080p or 4:4:4:4 or dual-link - 360 MB/s sustained - 4 disk controllers, 4 disk arrays, 15 Krpm drives. Compressed SD video - mpeg2, 480P, DVpro - 20 MB/s sustained - 1 disk controller, 7200 rpm drives, single array. 2 streams requires Uncompressed SD bandwidth. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4/8 CPU Gentoo server
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:52:01 -0800 gentuxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with gentoo on a 4/8 CPU server. I've been running it for years on a 4P PIII Xeon and my take is I won't run more than 2 Intel processors on their Front Side Bus - The bus saturates very quickly. The cpus stall out waiting for memory. If you are going to run more than 2 cpus, go for an Opteron solution. It scales much better and the dual-core limits the FSB to 2 cpus per connect. Also, if you look around at places like - 2cpu.com, you'll see at 4 cpus, the Opteron's massive memory bandwidth leaves the Xeon way behind on most benchmarks. Finally, outside of very, very specific tasks, Intel's HT actually slows down performance. Again check the web sites for specific benchmarks. If your application doesn't fall into the use area where HT actually helps, it's best to turn it off. As to Linux scaling, I've run Linux, not Gentoo, on a few different 8P, 16P, 20P, 32P, and 64P systems, and on one 512P system. The 512P was kind of fun - kicking off and stopping 512 setiathome instances, all at the same time. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:54:04 -0800 gentuxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also, one inherent flaw with your suggestion is the requirement of a livecd. I know you mentioned floppy, but these are SPARC boxen and I doubt I could fit all the drivers/commands/etc. on a floppy, and one doesn't even have a floppy. Thus the necessity for a network boot situation. Why not setup a diskless boot via dhcp/tftp? And boot the liveCD over the net? It pretty much runs in memory. Once the kernel in running, the rest could be nfs mounted. You might have to tweak a startup/initrd script, but that should be about it all. See - http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap5 Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:30:48 -0600 Bruce Burden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:36:05PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: My real issue is that fglrx worked under Suse 9.2, and not under Gentoo. But, no, I am NOT going back. Try installing xfishtank under Suse... By chance have you insured that - /usr/lib/libGL.la is symlinked to /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib/libGL.la? Just asking as neither opengl-update nor eselect opengl set will create the link. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reducing Hard disk Wear?
On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:38:44 +0100 Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people say that Setting the Hard disks to power down will extend their life, while others say that keeping the drives running constantly will extend their life (on the pretext that spin-up/downs wear the HD more then when they are constantly running). Wear on a hard drive is caused by bearing wear. A drive running at 4200 or 5400 rpm will last much longer than a drive running at 7200 rpm or faster. The same thing with any mechanical item, like a car's engine - wear down the bearings and it dies. The faster the engine turns, the sooner it dies. Same with hard drives. So I thought id ask here to see what your opinions/experiences are regarding this. My worry is that I am about to add a 200GB drive, this will hold a lot of files (and will be on for ages) but will not have any redundency so i'm worried about it failing. If it's an IDE drive running at 7200 rpm or faster, with continous running, it should be replaced every 1.5 yrs. If it's a SCSI drive running at 10,000 RPM or faster continously, then replacement should occur in 2 yrs. Yes, I know about warranty and all. If you have a good backup system and don't mind having a drive offline for hours on end until the restore is done, then wait for it to die. If you have a RAID 5 or better, just wait until the a drive dies. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?
On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:40:54 -0400 Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo. I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using: I've installed it, but used 2.6.11-r6 along with the latest download of files from the web site. No problems. tvtime lets me watch via the s-vhs connector as I've not got an antenna yet. I'd guess you might need to upgrade your kernel. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about supported hardware for Gentoo.
On Thu, 19 May 2005 22:15:55 -0400 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I await my income-tax refund, I'm drooling over a couple of machines on a website that allows you to build to your own specs. One is an Intel P4 CPU 505 2.66GHz/533FSB/1M and the other is an AMD Athlon 64 3000+/1600FSB/512K CPU. Spec'ed out otherwise identically, the AMD comes out slightly less expensive; it's not significant. Is there any real advantage to be had with an Athlon 64? Does Gentoo do anything with the extra 64 bits? Gentoo runs in full 64-bit mode on the AMD64. Downside is some problems with binary only packages like Shockwave Flash. It works fine in 32-bit environements, like Opera on an AMD64, but no with Firefox or Mozilla. Also, if you have to have OpenOffice, it must be the binary version as the soucre still doesn't compile cleanly at 64-bits. If you play games, Cedega doesn't work very well, but UT2004 works fine in 64-bit mode, though the ATI 9250 pretty much sucks playing at anything over 800x600,. and generally kind of sucks there as well. An Nvidia 5200 works fine. Also, consider that the AMD64 will be cooler than the P4 - it runs around 65 W, while the P4 is around 85 W. Also, I have a choice between a 64 meg ATI Radeon 7000 and a 128 meg Radeon 9250, at the same price. I have a Radeon 7000 working on an older machine right now. Are there any Gentoo issues with drivers for the 9250? Only that neither the Radeon Xorg driver nor the ATI driver support 16x10 - 1600x1024. They do fine at 4x3 - 1280x1024 and 16x9 - 1280x768, with the 9250. Well, they did, before the 9250 started dieing. Replaced it with an nVidia card, that does do 16x10 and all the rest. This reply brought to you by Gentoo on an AMD64 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] rsanders $ uname -av Linux chi 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 #2 Thu May 12 21:24:58 PDT 2005 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Bob -- - Are you living in the real world? - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon 9250
On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:59:33 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone at all. Got pointers? Got gotchas? Just use radeon as the driver. Don't bother with the ATI drivers until you have a working xorg.conf file. In the kernel select the DRI. Generally, Xorg will config it self to 800x600 with no xorg.conf file using some best guesses. Key thing to know is your monitor specifications - horizontial and vertical frequency limits. Second key thing to know is what /dev/ device you want to use for your mouse. Mess up those two things and X won't work. As for the ATI 9250, works in everything but 16x10 mode. Bob -- - Are you living in the real world? - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wiki software
On Sun, 22 May 2005 16:57:58 +0200 Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for wiki software to install for our company intranet and I see that twiki is masked. Is this not the main wiki software? What do others use? We would want the possibility to restrict write access but apart from that we are very flexible. What would be the lowest maintenace OSS software? We've been using pmwiki for our group, no ebuild - http://www.pmwiki.org/ Pretty straight forward, no need for a database, easy to maintain. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get nvsound to work.
On Sun, 22 May 2005 15:34:41 + Qian Qiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emerged alsa-oss alsa-utils and nforce-audio and added nvsound in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. I added the line alias sound-slot-0 nvidia as suggested by the nvidia documentation. I've unmuted everything in alsamixer. You have to either use Alsa or nvsound. They are exclusive of each other. For nvsound, use - nvmixer. BTW, I've got a set of 5.1 speakers, are the audio jacks connected differently between doze and gentoo? Can't help here. I prefer good stereo sound. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printer setup tool
On Sat, 28 May 2005 15:24:29 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any tools to help me set up my printer (Hp Deskjet 722c)? The gentoo docs don't seem to work for my and I can't understand why. The computer thinks that its sending the jobs, reports that the printer is active and idle, but the jobs seem to vanish into /dev/null and the printer never even twitches. Have you emerged hpoj and hoijs, and added hpoj to default? Have you read - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_hpoj_/_CUPS and - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_HP_Deskjet_720C_with_CUPS Bob -- - Are you living in the real world? - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with new kernel
On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:52:42 +0100 Kevin Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using a 2.6.7 kernel for months quite happily. Recently I decided to upgrade to 2.6.11-r9 but I am having problems. When booting it stalls with VFS: Cannot open root device 2105 or unknown block Googling around I can see its a common problem and I have tried the following without success: 1. Disable devfs 2. Checked I have via sata in the kernel (via sata board with sata hard drive) 3. Checked I have IDE enabled 4. Checked I have ext3 extensions the same as on 2.6.7 kernel 5. Check LILO is correct Forgive the dumb questions - when you mention the via sata modules and ext3 file system - these are not modules but really in the kernel - *, selected? And the VIA SATA is the one under the SCSI low-level drivers - SCSI_SATA_VIA? Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] After switching to udev partitions no longer mount automatically
On Sun, 29 May 2005 14:02:03 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does udev somehow not support mounting by label? It's needs the device - /dev/hdxx defined somewhere. Normally this is defined in /etc/fstab. I'd guess that somewhere along the way, the labels were defined in a devfs conf file on the system, thus it appeared devfs was auto-magically working with labels. You could probably define labels for udev if you really wanted to. We've had a system using devfsd with a user partition mounted at /home/herb for a long time. (18 months) Everything has been fine. The user partition has always mounted correctly. We recently switched to udev and the system has been through some reboots and has mounted fine until today. As of today it appears that they no longer do. After a reboot things looked like this: gandalf ~ # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 4892408 3760620883268 81% / udev257536 3148254388 2% /dev gandalf ~ # It seems that only / and swap are mounting What we are more used to is things looking like this: gandalf ~ # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 4892408 3760620883268 81% / udev257536 3148254388 2% /dev /dev/sda8 9612604 1366048 7758260 15% /home/herb /dev/sda6 9612604 1299172 7825136 15% /usr/portage /dev/sdb2278827992 34887008 229777280 14% /TVstorage gandalf ~ # Just add the partitions to /etc/fstab - /dev/sda3 / (and the rest of the line) /dev/sda8 /home/herb (and the rest of the line) /dev/sda6 /usr/portage (and the rest of the line) /dev/sdb2 /TVstorage (and the rest of the line) Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] telnet without telnetd anyone???
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 01:14:31 -0400 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking around through my system today. I see a directory /etc/xinet.d complete with cupsd and telnetd config files (WTF?). I'm sure we're all aware of the (in)security of telnetd. And yes, I had /usr/sbin/in.telnetd but no xinetd or xinetd. /etc/var/lib/portage/world indicates that I had telnet-bsd installed. qpkg -q -I telnet-bsd said that nothing depends on it, so I unmerge it. telnetd never gets started, unless two things are done - edit /etc/xinetd.d/telnet and change the no to yes, then rc-update add xinetd default. Actaully getting pam to allow telnets connections is another major issue. So, no matter how insecure telnetd or rshd is, it's not easy to get them running. Now I find that I have no telnet client for custom whois queries, etc. netkit-telnetd is obviously not what I want. Is there a package that provides a plain ordinary telnet client... period??? $ esearch -Sc telnet [ N] app-emacs/tramp (2.0.45): TRAMP is a package for editing remote files similar to ange-ftp but with rlogin, telnet and/or ssh [ N] dev-java/telnetd (1.0-r1): A telnet daemon for use in java applications [ N] dev-perl/Net-Telnet (3.03-r1): A Telnet Perl Module [ N] dev-perl/Net-Telnet-Cisco (1.10): Automate telnet sessions w/ routersswitches [MN] games-fps/ttyquake (0.4.2): Play Quake at a text terminal, in an xterm, or over a telnet session [MN] net-misc/blinkperl (20030301): blinkperl is a telnet server, which plays BlinkenLight movies [MN] net-misc/cgterm (1.6): Connect to C64 telnet BBS's with the correct colours and font [ N] net-misc/netkit-telnetd (0.17-r6): Standard Linux telnet client and server [ I] net-misc/putty (0.57): UNIX port of the famous Telnet and SSH client [ I] net-misc/telnet-bsd (1.0-r1): Telnet and telnetd ported from OpenBSD with IPv6 support [MN] net-misc/tn5250 (0.16.5): Telnet client for the IBM AS/400 that emulates 5250 terminals and printers. [MN] net-misc/utelnetd (0.1.9): A small Telnet daemon, derived from the Axis tools [MN] net-p2p/mldonkey (2.5.28-r4): mldonkey is a new client to access the eDonkey network. It is written in Objective-Caml, and comes with its own GTK GUI, an HTTP interface and a telnet interface. Looks like putty might work. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Rebuild entire system - recompile all installed packages
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:49:15 + (UTC) Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get only 292. So emerge -De world would NOT re-compile everything that's on my system. Have you done a - regenworld? Sometimes, items get installed and not always put in the world file. Not often, but on occasion. Typing - regenworld at the command line will add the missing items in. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] photo management
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 18:58:20 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys use to manage your digital photos? [ I] media-gfx/digikam (0.7.1): digiKam is a digital photo management application for KDE. You only need parts of KDE, not everything. I run it under Enlightenment. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664??
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:06:06 -0400 Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else have trouble with this upgrade? Mine complained about some sort of version mismatch, claiming the last installed was not 1.0.7664 but 1.0.7174? Mine went fine with the upgrade on an 2 amd64 and one ia32 systems But the same glx error shows up on the one system with a 6600 in it. Same error with 6629 and 7174. Works fine with 6200, 5900, Quadro2 boards. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] photo management
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:58:48 -0400 Simon Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob: does that works with gnome? If it doesn't... what about the Gnome desktop enviroment users? I don't have a full gnome nor kde install. I just use what I need from gnome and kde. I've not had problems with any on the sub-sets I use. digiKam is a front end to gphoto2, though my camera doesn't get used as part of gphoto2. Gtkam is a gtk2 frontend for Gphoto2, thus needs soem Gnome items. It might work fine, or it might not. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Ut2004 and language patch
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:40:21 +0200 Luigi Pinna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use ut2004 with different languages: I bought the Us version, but I'd like to listen the voice in italian or in german... Is there a patch that change the language? (Of course I must installed the voice...). Sometimes ago I saw the multilanguages UT CDs, and I want to try that without to buy the game another time. Is it possible? Probably best to ask on the UT2004 mailing list after checking the Gamer's FAQ. FAQ - http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/ Pointer to the mailing list - http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/#ut2k3ml Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:45:55 +0200 Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:42 +0200, Jules Colding wrote: BTW: My make.conf is: # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built this stage # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer ^---redundant for a -O flag - see man gcc ^-- Change to -O2 Try using -O2 until after the system is up and running. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev permissions problem?
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:01:54 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have these devices: dragonfly ~ # ls -al /dev/v4l/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Jun 14 19:25 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root14100 Jun 14 19:25 .. crw-rw 1 root video 81, 64 Jun 14 19:25 radio0 crw--- 1 mark sys 81, 224 Jun 14 19:25 vbi0 crw--- 1 mark sys 81, 0 Jun 14 19:25 video0 crw--- 1 mark sys 81, 24 Jun 14 19:25 video24 crw--- 1 mark sys 81, 32 Jun 14 19:25 video32 dragonfly ~ # You're running pam? If so that's where you should look. Without pam, this is what I get - chi rsanders # ls -l /dev/v4l/ total 0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 64 Jun 15 16:37 radio0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 224 Jun 15 16:37 vbi0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 228 Jun 15 16:37 vbi4 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 232 Jun 15 16:37 vbi8 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 48 Jun 15 16:37 video crw-rw 1 root video 81, 0 Jun 15 16:37 video0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 16 Jun 15 16:37 video16 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 24 Jun 15 16:37 video24 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 32 Jun 15 16:37 video32 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 48 Jun 15 16:37 video48 Bob -- - Are you living in the real world? - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:11:33 +0800 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I would use fdisk/mke2fs and tar rather than rsync since it's much faster that way. I'd suggest another option - use xfs and xfsdump and xfsrestore. At the bottom of the xfsdump man page there are examples of ways to dump out the file system. The way I moved my /home from a small disk to a larger one was - fdisk/cfdisk the new drive mkfs.xfs /dev/sda (it was attached via a USB to ide adapter) mkdir /d2 mount /dev/sda1 /d2 xfsdump - /home | xfsrestore - /d2/ There is a similar dump/restore for the ext2 filesystem - app-arch/dump. Bob - - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:23:30 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Sanders wrote: This method looks interesting. I found a quote from Linux Torvalds saying dump can misbehave if there are dirty buffers. Has anyone experienced that? I haven't used dump in five or more years, but things to keep in mind - This technique runs things through memory, thus a quiet system is needed. No ripping cds in the background, compiling, letting batch jobs run, etc. For xfsdump, networking needs to up enough to set hostname. Don't ask, it's always been that way. It's best to run a repair on the new disk after completion - unmount it, then a file system check. For xfs, run xfs_repair. http://www.geoffholden.com/content/presentations/Backups/ How about benchmarks? Has anyone seen benchmarks of dump vs. partimage vs. tar vs. rsync vs. cp? That would be interesting. Why? The task is to move the data from one partition to a new disk/partition. Getting it reliably done, in a repeatable, sane, manner is more important than speed. Using something like dump/xfsdump, the limiting factor is drive i/o or the disk channel depending upon the setup. Also, a journaling filesystem will impose a certain amount of overhead and disk writes are going to be the bottleneck. The only question is - which keeps the target's disk buffer full? The max transfer rate can be calculated from hard drive sustained sequential write performance, the max speed, minus the overhead of the file system. The assumptions are dma is used, drives are on different controller channels, and memory is sufficient. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] top - 99.9% wa? What's 'wa'?
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:59:55 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking at this mythbackend server machine using top. Sometimes the CPU usage goes to essentially 100%, but only in the 'wa' section. What is 'wa'? I searched through the man page but didn't see anything about this. It's described in the vmstat man page. You're supposed to be clairvoyant about these things and know that virtual memory stats is where cpu time is described. :) It's Time spent waiting for IO. The cpu can't do anything until IO is completed - typically this is some kind of DMA transfer. I'm suspecting that this machine has stopped being able to keep up with MythTV due to something using up CPU time. I found that one of my wife's screensavers (Fireworks) was using 70-90% CPU so I've turned that off and things seem much better. Now when watching top I never see anything using more than a few %, but this 'wa' thing persists. Nope, it's just slow doing IO - bottleneck in either disk to memory, video to memory, or memory to network. top - 14:51:47 up 4:19, 3 users, load average: 1.75, 1.88, 1.58 Tasks: 91 total, 2 running, 88 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie Cpu(s): 0.3% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 97.7% wa, 0.0% hi, 1.7% si Mem:499052k total, 493560k used, 5492k free, 3140k buffers Swap: 1052216k total, 368k used, 1051848k free, 342352k cached Looks like it might help a bit to increase the systems main memory to 1 GB. It'll eliminate the swapping and will increase the available in-memory filesystem buffering. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and nvidia
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 8:57:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a new system I built I had to recreate the /dev/nv* items. The problem is udev is not creating the device nodes like it should. Neither 0.68, nor 0.70. Why? Don't know. I took NVmakedevices.sh from an older nvidia-kernel (downgraded as part of my troubleshooting the issue), saved it in /root, upgraded - 1.0.7676 removes it and doesn't have it in the ebuild, and added to /etc/conf.d/local.start. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i386 vs amd64
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:07:47 -0400 Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have several Loki game titles around, are they able to run on amd64 gentoo? Some do, with a bit of finding out when to wave the chicken. Unreal Tournament installs and runs without problem, once it's unmasked. Others I've run under amd64 - I've had Railroad Tycoon2 running. Half Life running under Crossover Office. The Sims, Linux Edition runs, until asking for help, then it crashes. Have never, ever, gotten Tropico running under Cedegra, on either x86 nor x86_64. (And being a dictator is a critical need!) Non-game - Both Comicworks and True-Basic Gold run under Cedegra. Or used to, I haven't messed with them in awhile. So I am asking some Gentoo amd64 users, are you happy with the version or would you have gained more with i386? I've been running amd64 for over a year now. About the only real problem I've stumbled on has been some PVR issues, one with Abiword where it print. But those are being worked on, with the PVR issue resolved. Pulling video from DV tapes via ieee1394 works well. As does using a D-Link USB FM tuner. Do most applications work on amd64 or are there some important ones missing? Pure-FTPD doesn't work on amd64. I've been unable to get lighttpd running. My complaint at the moment is I have to run my monitor at 1280x1024 if I want 3D acceleration. But that's Gfx card/driver interaction that'll get sorted out eventually. Normally. I should be running at 1600x1024. At work, I've been running a 23 flat panel at 1920x1200 with 3D acceleration on an amd64 system, though I have problems with ut2004 on that system, while UT runs great. (Both systems use an nVidia 660GT.) Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:37:27 +0100 (BST) damian bamforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the full file name is livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2). I only have windows xp. Download Puppy Linux, burn a cd, boot it up. You also have the option of installing it as a file on your WinXP disk and dual booting. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a gross first pass, my impression is that ThinkPads and Dells seem to do well with Linux. Do your collective experiences confirm or deny this? Works fine on IBM X31 and T42. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LTSP vs. Diskless Nodes
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:45:22 +0100 Ryan Viljoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering what the difference is between using LTSP and Diskless Nodes is for creating a thin client network. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml#doc_chap3 What would be the advantage of using LTSP. From what I have read (bearing in mind it is 3:41am [image: :(] ) the seem to offer the same thing. Bear in mind this reply is from someone that has only done very, very, minor fooling with LTSP, but has run a lot of diskless nodes - using IRIX. LTSP is pretty much limited to x86. It's also pretty well pre-defined, and pre-compiled. The nice thing is the infrastructure is setup, which limits the amount of initial work that needs to be done. The downside is if you want clients other than x86, it tends to get in the way. The diskless howto, is pretty basic, and doesn't expand on more than what is needed to, essentially, bootup the equivlant of a LiveCD. Neither gives you the a client that is a full system booted off a diskless server. Things missing, include - package management for the clients. Full, filesystem support, though LTSP is a bit easier to set up local swap and /tmp. If you have limited needs - where the clients are pretty much static, I'd suggest the following from ease of implementation and support - easiest to more work - - Puppy Linux on a USB stick - Gentoo LiveCD booted from a Catalyst created CD/USB/etc. - LTSP - Gentoo Diskless Howto - Gentoo Diskless cluster For a more robust set of clients, where updates are easy and package management is in effect, the following needs to be created - - a share tree where all clients use the same libs, read only (assumes the same arch). Typically, this includes - /usr /bin /sbin /lib. - a client tree and swap tree for each client - read/write. Usually includes - /var, /etc. /home, /opt, /root. It also includes links to the share tree - /usr /include /lib. - a set of scripts to manage all this in a sane manner on the server. - Package management becomes an issue, thus lots of work would be needed. Typically, it's easier (less thinking, script creation) to provide clients with pre-compiled binaries and do package management in the background on the server, allowing clients read only access to see what is installed. All-in-all, the easiest to implement is a RAM based distribution - Puppy Linux on a local r/w device - USB stick, CF, SD, CD-r/w, DVD-ram, which can be booted from a diskless server, then runs a a standalone unit. It's easy to control what configuration and what aux packages are available - easy to get additional packages. The server can be a development/build system for the clients. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LTSP vs. Diskless Nodes
Since I'm rambling now, guess I should do the rest of the memory download... One of the big problems with Linux diskless is it really doesn't scale well, it doesn't allow for clients to run multiple versions of the os, nor for different arch types to co-exist off one server of a different arch type. Additionally, a typical diskless setup exports /usr as a read only file system (which by most definitions, it is supposed to be). Lots of developers ignore this and never think about writing a small file into some /usr/... path during normal operation. Linux is usually much better at leaving /usr read only. But there is an argument that /usr/portage should be /var/portage. But */portage is pretty easy to move, so it's not a big deal. See - http://www.kurobox.com/online/tiki-index.php?page=InstallGentooBeta1 Under the heading - Configuring Portage Another not so well thought out diskless problem with Linux is all the setups use one kernel under /tftpboot or, at least the Gentoo Diskless guide uses /diskless, which makes it a bit movable, but then falls into showing the path as - /diskless/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (an IP number) instead of using the node name. The other problem, is they all assume only one kernel vs. a kernel for each host. For a good idea of how a robust diskless setup should be done, please see - http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?coll=0650db=bkssrch=fname=/SGI_Admin/Diskless_AG/sgi_html/pr01.html The SGI IRIX Diaskless Workstation Administration Guide. So here's a general overview of how a robust diskless infrastructure should be done - - The server should be capable of supporting multipe arch types, even OS types, as long as the NFS' are compatible. - The diskless trees should be capable of being moved to other drives or even servers. - Clients should be known by host name, not IP. The server's /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf should define all that's needed for a client to operate, thus can simply be copied, intact, to each client's /diskless/client-name/etc. - Common files across clients, should reside in common share trees, which are exported read only. - Clients should be capable of operating as full systems, minus having a local disk. - A set of wrapper scripts is needed to allow for package management of share trees and client trees. - Client system management, excluding package management, should be done on the diskless client. - DCHP providing is reserved to the diskless server. Nothing says it can't also provide general DHCP support for other systems beyond the diskless clients. - Diskless nodes should be capable of having attached storage, even shared mounts from NAS and SAN systems. - In a production or a secure environment, diskless should be robust enough to allow changing it on a daily basis - swapping drives out to meet changing needs of visiting clients while still giving access to shared storage. (Linux is not robust in this aspect.) fwiw, here are the weekly diskless things I and my piers do with diskless - Regularly run a 16P O3K booted diskless off a 2P O350 server under IRIX, along with other nodes - some O2s running under a different share tree, and a Voyager system (two pipe Gfx visualization system) booted across multiple sub-nets. Do a weeky update of IRIX on 3 diskless servers and run long term testing - 110hrs, max load on 11 clients of mixed arch types. btw - these servers are all on the same sub-net. Do daily booting and installs via a diakless boot of new Linux kernels on ia64 systems via a fileserver running Gentoo. The systems install kernels and other Linux updates via diskless network boots, then reboot up as regular systems and run automated system testing. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LTSP vs. Diskless Nodes
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:55:24 +0200 Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the big problems with Linux diskless is it really doesn't scale well, it doesn't allow for clients to run multiple versions of the os, Why would you want to do that? Ah! Not everyone would. But there are some who run realtime flight simulators where the main Gfx system use 3 to 7 Gfx pipes to provide a 180 degree to 270 degree view, puling in 1 TB or so of texture data during the sim. This Gfx system has the problem of needing proprietary drivers for both the SAN and the Gfx cards, so it's selection of OS may be limited to a certain range, while the PCs that drive the instruments don't need access to the SAN, and the 32P realtime server that runs the ssimulation and controls the simulator reacts to the pilots inputs, weather setup, etc., also doesn't need data from the san, but has needs as to what's the best kernel to run for realtime simulation vs. realtime Gfx. And all this is booted off a 2P diskless server where the limits of what's seen by pilots and perhaps maintainence crew is determined by whether they are running commerical, military, or private aircraft that day. The diskless server could be any 64-bit capable 2P unit, wile the Gfx system would be a multi-pipe ia64 system, the 32P realtime system could be an ia64 or an x86-64 system and the PCs would be standard x86, probably running WinXX and Linux. A typical LTSP server doesn't export /usr at all. There is no need for it. The client runs a kernel and an X server. If you want local devices to work, it also needs to run some other small daemons. All *applications* run on the server. And this is a critical difference between LTSP - thin client serving, vs. a full diskless client where the applications run on the client. Sometimes one works fine (LTSP) for the needs. But other needs requires a different approach. My experiences with LTSP so far show: With a server like mentioned at the begin and fast ethernet, up to 20 clients are working well if you don't allow too graphics-intensive apps like movie players or that type of games. For more clients (up to 40), you need more ram on the server and a Gb connection between the server and the switch (clients can remain on 100Mb ethernet, of course). A typical setup I run for testing has a 2P 600 MHz MIPS system with 512MB ram as the server, serving 6 1P and 2P Gfx system, with the Gfx systems running 6 different OpenGL apps, along with floating point work, local disk DMA and Xwindow DMA on all the clients. One customer of ours runs 11 CAD systems off a single 2P diskless server. For small businesses, I prefer a different solution that involved solid state clients that boot from non-volatile ram. In that case, the client is completely independent of the server. All they talk to each other is X. Yep, a great solution! Cheers from the beginning southern African summer it's getting cold up here. Shorter days and silly time changes. Cheers, Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird pauses making me nuts
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:31:33 +0100 Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What else could I do alongside it, other than running an emerge or something? You could switch to a non-proprietary gfx driver, and try that, though it might not work with the ATI card you have. Try emerging app-benchmarks/stress and running that. That runs everything but X. And it tunable to see what's taking resources. The other thing to try is stoppping everything, with X still running and starting up one of the rss-glx screensavers. It it runs with no issue, start a second instance or a second one, then another - as many as the system will handle until it starts showing the problem. Have top running in a term to see if you can find out what taking all the resources. Last time it happened to me, it was Xorg itself causing the issue. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LTSP vs. Diskless Nodes
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 05:40:28 + Ryan Viljoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you guys suggest in terms of specs for a server, serving say 50 odd thin clients? Probably 2P Opteron with 2 GB to 8 GB main memory. Cpus around 2 GHz. You'll have to calculate the memory needs of each client plus the server's running overhead, and get enough memory to avoid swapping. And most Opteron motherboards come with dual GigE ports, so it's possible to split the clients across the GigE channels. Of course you could go with a 4P Opteron motherboard and only populate the first 2 cpus. Then if the load demands, add cpus and memory. The real downside to this approach is it's really expensive. It might be cheaper to buy two separate 2P servers and split the clients that way if need be, plus it gives a redundant system in case one dies. Why not 4P with dual cores? While they work, the need is i/o and memory bandwidth. 4 sockets does that while 2 sockets and 2 dual-cores cores is only half the bandwidth. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild is giving me fits
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:29:14 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you can see I have a few broken thingys. It says I need to re-emerge apache and I have never used apache in my life. What the heck does it need that for? This is my desktop rig not some fancy server. Perhaps you have an apache(2) USE flag in /etc/make.conf? Should I just do a emerge -ev world and be done with it or does someone have a better solution to this thing? Before you do that, get rid of /root/.revdep* Run - python-updater Then - perl-cleaner all Then - emerge -uDNav world Then - revdep-rebuild -p Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is recommended behavior for complete updating of an old system ?
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:46:41 +0100 Jimmy Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Primary: What is a recommended way to update an old system to minimize the amount of broken ebuilds? Is emerge --emptytree world a good idea? Is it better than a clean install? Or is the documentation's way good enough even for a very old system: emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild For an old machine that takes a long time to compile, or an embedded system - emerge sync once per week and let it run over the weekend doing updates. About once per year - - emerge sync - ufed and check out the USE flags. Some changes occur and they need a bit of cleaning. - emerge -eav system (no need to d world.) - emerge -uDNav world - python-updater - perl-cleaner all - revdep-rebuild I have an unexplainable fobia against --depclean though. Then don't. All you care about is the programs you currently use, those others just sit there taking some space. If you're not obsessive about a little disk space, why wipe them off the disk? And updating everything at once seems a bit reckless, I mean with the age of the system it would update almost everything. The package list was a mile long, and you never know what will break. That's why you should keep on a regular update schedule. A lot of programs get fixed, USE flags change, dependencies change, configuration options get updated. Secondary: How often should one update the system to minimize hassles with broken packages? Me? I do most of my working systems daily - takes about 10 minutes for all 4 systems. Home systems - daily or weekly. Laptop monthly. Better to see a small problem show up than wait for it to be buried in a lot of updates and then have to find out which of 10 or 20 packages caused the issue. Too often, and the hassle of constant upgrading can get tedious even if it works ok, and too late, and some odd dysfunctional version combinations start showing up that the packages were not really tested for, leading to broken ebuilds. Have you run other distributions where you get the massive binary updates 3 times per year? Have you had to fun of doing minor package updates in between the massive updates and then find that the massive update leaves your system completely borked because of conflicts with the minor updates? And I mean you don't see these until the system tries to reboot, and then it sometimes won't do that. I did like this: I didn't want to run a clean install or an --emptytree thingie. I wanted to take it a few steps at a time, so that if something broke I might have an idea about what new packages it was that broke it. 1) take a backup of the system. I have some modifications in /etc/init.d scripts and some extra non-gentoo stuff for clustering installed that I didn't want to risk, and I was pretty sure something would bork and leave me clueless. lol 2) emerge sync. Nice, worked. emerge *only the most important stuff* (oh, I'm really chicken btw): portage, baselayout, etc. That brought in some dependencies, but it worked out all right after a while and a lot of figuring out the /etc/init.d and config file changes that has happened for the last 1.5 years. And some other changes as to where certain configs go, and how, and so on. But most was easily searchable in docs or forums.gentoo or on this list. Reboot here to see if it even booted any more... YEEAAAH! 3) emerge basic user packages like gcc, glibc, xorg (yes I was still on xfree) kernel, etc. note: I have to stay on 2.4 because I use openmosix for the clustering, and I don't yet trust 2.6om. For this I started using --update --deep since I did want an updated system, but not all at once. This still worked out all right, with just some minor headaches of broken ebuilds. And some config files again. hrmmpf kernel change means reboot. darned. 4) emerge --update --deep desktop stuff like KDE, openoffice, browsers, etc... This started generating Lots of broken packages. I have spent many hours looking through the _VERY_NICE_ bugs.gentoo.org. I still get bitten by bugs that are filed fixed in mid 2003. lol So here's something to chew on - you are running a cluster with a boat load of desktop apps. And desktop apps have tons of libs that are needed. Plus the desktop and their apps change a lot - there is a lot of churn in desktop apps. They are going to break more often. Waiting will just make the breakage worse and cause all the compiles to occur at one time, instead of being spread out. Some more config file updates, and restarting all significant services to use the new software. 5) Now, muahaha, emerge --update --deep world. Aiaiai. Another batch of broken packages,
Re: [gentoo-user] 14TB filesystem problems...
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:19:26 -0800 (PST) Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if I use a non-traditional partition... then I should be good? Use parted/gparted and select EFI GUID Partition support in your kernel config, under Files types -- Partition types. Make the partition an EFI partition - to beware, fdisk/cfdisk will complain about disks that have had parted used to create a partition. These are known bugs that, to my knowledge, haven't been fixed. Though ,as Richard stated, LVM will take care of this as well. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommendatoin for a new server
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 08:31:10 +0600 El Nino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm looking for sata raid,amd opteron around 1GB ram. I wouldn't worry about whether it's parallel or sata raid. If you need high i/o it needs to be SCSI. Otherwise either IDE or SATA works fine with little difference in performance between the two. Also, IDE/SATA drives will need to be replaced at a higher rate than SCSI drives. Just a fact of life. has anyone built a server recently that worked? 1) can anyone give me a suggestions for a good(cost-effective) server(good with gentoo). I've been using a Penguin computing 1U for almost 2 years now. And I run a home built dual Opteron - Tyan Thunder motherboard. Stay away from MSI and ASUS if reliability is a major concern. So far the only real problem has been one Opteron having a flakey memory controller. Only fails on specific things - emerging nvidia-glx/kernel. Replacing both cpus next week. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia driver problem
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:06:12 +0200 sempsteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've installed the nvidia drivers by the walkthrough of Gentoo Linux nVidia Guide. Emerge installed nvidia-glx v1.0.6629-r6 and nvidia-kernel v1.0.6629-r4 with no problems and i did the necessary changes in the xorg.conf file. Then i tested my card with glxinfo | grep direct and glxgears and i got errors: Well, your /etc/X11/xorg.conf looks fine, but the log shows that the glx module was not loaded. Did you reboot after the emerge? I suggest trying the following logged in as root - mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2D cd $home /etc/init.d/xdm stop From the console - X -confgure vi/nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Change - /dev/mouse to /dev/misc/psaux (or whatever your favorite is) - Comment out load dri Then do (X will tell you what the proper command line is at the end of configure) - X -file /root/xorg.conf.new If X comes up, exit out, cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg/conf /etc/init.d/xdm start You may need to change or add a mode line to get the resolution you want and add a - DefaultDepth 24 to - Section Screen But it should load glx with no problem. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:50:14 +1000 Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that there was a bug in the mga drivers some time ago, and it appears that the xorg drivers have incorporated the patches I have seen during my google searches. I had one running on Gentoo last year, before the motherboard on an 800 MHz Athlon Slot-A died. X ran fine. I do wonder what to do about framebuffers, though. Tiring of the battle, after many years of avoiding framebuffers, Have you tried just using - vesa? Or vga? It should work. Turning on everything is always a sure way to break a kernel. Description: when scrolling the buffer, some lines are doubled, some are lost, and using Firefox at least, when I type Ctrl-L, the frame displays properly until it is scrolled again. I have found descriptions of similar issues on the Inet, but nothing that has helped get my system to work properly. Does this symptom ring a bell with anyone? Generally, it's because the gfx card can't refresh from it's internal memory fast enough. As I recall, the Mystique had an optional memory module, which I have on mine. Perhaps its just that your trying to use too high a resolution and hitting the cards performance limits? With due respect, save up your pennies and get a current Gfx card. Should be around US$42. Sure, that's a months wages in some parts of the world. But still - throwing a massively powerful processor in a system with a dead-end Gfx card is kind of wasteful, unless you're making this thing into a server. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:56:18 +1000 Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you recommend to go about trying vesa. That may be what Ubuntu is doing. Turn on vesa framebuffer? Yes. Under - Device Driver -- Graphics support -- Select VESA VGA graphics support The further down in the Gfx support section -- Console Display Driver Support -- * VGA text console * Video mode selection support * Framebuffer Console support I backed down to 1024xsomething: vertical lines were scalloped/wavy. Someone mentioned this would be a timing issue, but I don't know what I'd do to microadjust timing? xvidtune? I'll try it. Yes, xvidtune. Also, it mught be useful to download the mga.o from Matrox and follow the instructions to replace the one in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (if I recall the path correctly). Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:11:58 +1000 Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did download this driver, and when I installed, a message was generated that the version was wrong. Maybe I'll try again, and just install it anyway. I wonder if the HAL use flag needs to be set to use the driver? It's a new USE flag this year and may cause a re-compile of Xorg if an emerge -uDNav world is done after setting it. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture card recommendations
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:32:11 -0500 Budd, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need a bare-bones card to make backups of my VCR tapes and DVDs. Not even interested in a TV-tuner though I guess they all include that. Gentoo support is a must. I have both a PVR-350 Hauppauge and an HD-3000 from pcHDTV. Of the two, I find the HD-3000 easier to use, and less expensive than the PVR-350. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Succinct compilation of system info...
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:31:28 -0600 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want straight command line so redirect is possible, but a thorough summary. Not just hdw or pci or usb. I want that but also what filesystems, df -h cat /etc/fstab which users, cat /etc/passwd cat /etc/group all installed software. emerge -evt world How much data on which partitions, du -hSx / du -hSx /home ...for each partition of interest. Probably need to do some sorting and summaries with grep, sed, and awk. all devices broken down into their uses such as ethernet, disk controller etc etc. lshw -or- lshw -short lshw -businfo lshw -html etc. In general a full scope summary. It seems this would have been invented long ago, for the treasure trove it would supply to developers. It was never hidden and has always been available. The commands, excepting lshw, have been available since the 1970s. And lots of system inventory scripts are in existance. Many written obscurely in Perl and other languages. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Succinct compilation of system info...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:36:38 -0600 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mentioned possibly obscure system inventory scripts in perl. So apparently you already know it can be a time consuming undertaking to dig one up with google, test it, etc etc. Do you know of one off the top of your head? Hopefully not too obscure. Sorry. The last one I worked with was - - dependant upon some obscure layer on top of perl, no longer maintained. - used tricks to avoid typing clean code. - written by people no longer around when I tried to make it work. - broken by updates to both the system, perl, various CPAN modules and relied on the web server being Netscape Enterprise. - Dedicated to IRIX systems. I could really rant about this, but I'll just let it go. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video capture card recommendations
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 11:50:24 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you receiving and correctly displaying HDTV broadcast over the air with these cards? If so, Which one do you like better for HDTV reception? We're moving to all HDTV broadcast in my area of Florida in early 2006... No, I'm not doing any off-the-air. Just S-VHS in. Also, the Hauppauge card is Std Def only, or more exactly - MPEG2. Over the air broadcast, and most cable and sat. broadcasts are not of interest to me - the content tends to suck. Do you have a wireless (infrared) remote controller working with either card, for channel surfing HDTV? I played with the remote that came with the Hauppauge, but never got it working. As I'm close to the screen, the remote doesn't really do more than get lost. So as lirc has improved, I never made much effort. Any Recommendations on a remote controller with this sort of setup? I've read that Ati's remote works well. But mostly it seems that how much effort you're willing to put into the details is the main issue on remotes. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] error building pdflib during gcc-3.4 upgrade
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:10:02 -0500 John Blinka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm in the emerge -e world step of the gcc-3.4 upgrade as documented on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/x86/gcc-upgrading-guide.xml. Unfortunately, after compiling for a day or two, the upgrade has terminated during the rebuild of pdflib. The following error messages occur in the log: emerge --resume --skipfirst etc-update/dispatch-conf reboot emerge pdflib Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Total system hangs, flightgear, nvidia drivers
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:43:45 -0500 fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell, I am running into some very irritating problems when trying to use newer nvidia drivers. The newer Nvidia drivers have a tighter spec on speeds. They also now need mode lines for, as I recall, resolutions above 1280x1024. Also, as your monitor is one of those that has a flakey EDID (from reading your log), any edid setting will get ignored. The drivers do work, in most cases[1]. I'm running at 1920x1200 on 8174-r1. But that is with a mode line. I still get occasional system hangs on my 2P amd64 system while playing ut2004. But I think that may have to do with threads and audio. Bob [1] An SGI FP1600SW with an Nvidia 6xxx card at 1600x1024 is a case where none of the drivers work, even with mode lines. - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: sys-apps/ivman-0.5_pre2 failed.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:17:07 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was doing a emerge -e world to make sure everything was in order after the gcc upgrade and poking KDE 3.5 into the mix as well. I only have 92 packages left. OK, any ideas on what went south? I added ivman to the package.keywords and did a emerge --resume but it wanted to emerge the same version. I guess it didn't reread the file when it restarted. If I emerge it manually I loose my --resume option. :( No ideas, but why not just do - emerge --resume --skipfirst and come back to lvman after all that is done? Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cms
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:39:07 -0600 Qv6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: I am looking for a really good Content Management System that is feature-rich and easy to install. Webgui seems good, but the install is tedious. Pmwiki works well. Allows creations of groups (farms), is easy to set up and manage. Upgrades are straight forward and there is a good User community on the mailing list. http://pmwiki.org/ Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] stock tracker
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:55:39 -0600 Qv6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I'm looking for a scrolling stock ticker/tracker for Kde or Gnome. Any good one out there? I've used tclticker for ages. It's not desktop specific. http://www.nyx.net/~tpoindex/tcl.html Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 and dhcpcd
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:52:48 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I switched to kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 (from r5), with an identical .config file, dhcpcd doesn't stay alive as a daemon: - it starts okay at boot time and eth1 gets its address from IAF, then it dies - when the lease time's over, I don't have internet access anymore until I rebbot. What gives ? Anyone got the same problem ? I can't actually say. However, if it's the dhcpcd that comes with net-misc/dhcp then that client has a persistence problem and the standalone client - net-misc/dhcpcd is a better choice. Or perhaps - net-misc/pump, might be a better choice? Yes, I didn't answer your question as I don't have a working knowledge of the kernel and the client other than the persistence issue seen on another Linux on an ia64 platform. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended amd64 box for Gentoo
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:04:58 -0600 Michael Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone recommend an amd64 box to use with Gentoo 2006.0? I had considered one of the following workstations; has anyone had good or bad experience with these workstations and Gentoo for amd64? HP xw9300 Sun Ultra 40 IBM IntelliStation A Pro Alienware MJ-12 7550a No. Shuttle XPC SN95G5 V3 - typing this email now Nvidia 6600GT Gfx card, though it's seen several others. This system was built early 2005. Penguin Computing 1U server - been running since 2004, 2P Opteron Self-built 2P Opteron Tyan K8W S2885 motherboard, running since 2004. Nvidia 6600GT gfx card. Started out with an Nvidia 5900XT. It lost one cpu - memory controller went bad last year. Upgraded both cpus and now have powernowd running doing dynamic frequency control. Self-built 2P Opteron MSI motherboard, built 2004, motherboard lost memory traces in 2005. Now dead. All have run Gentoo, though the Penguin Computing server started out with SLES 8, that basically sucked. SLES 9 and SLES 10 are better, but it's a critical lab server and I won't run software we test on something critical like that. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended amd64 box for Gentoo
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:07:46 -0800 Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:04:58 -0600 Michael Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone recommend an amd64 box to use with Gentoo 2006.0? I had considered one of the following workstations; has anyone had good or bad experience with these workstations and Gentoo for amd64? HP xw9300 Sun Ultra 40 IBM IntelliStation A Pro Alienware MJ-12 7550a Thinking about it my reply should have been - Gentoo will run fine on any box the vendor sells with a Linux as an option to on it. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended amd64 box for Gentoo
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:06:42 -0500 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My main worries would be proprietary stuff like RealPlayer and the win32codecs portion of mplayer. Both work for me within reason. The win32codecs I use with mplayer-bin. And Realplayer works. But if you are one that wants seamless integration with a browser or gui, then you'll be disappointed and unhappy. I've not had any issue with streaming audio. Some issues with streaming video - video.google.com doesn't work. But for anything that's downloadable, mostly no problems playing. Some problems with video from those using very new versions of Micrsoft's video formats. fwiw - I use both Firefox and Opera, but not firefox-bin. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I leave anything out that is needed for nvidia on an amd64? Or should I not expect anything more from the on board NVIDIA GeForce 6100 even though it is running over PCI-e? Onboard video uses system memory. So the bandwidth to memory is limited by PCIe, HT, and two hops to the memory and back. Figure memory bandwidth around 800 MB/s to 1 GB/s tops, if nothing else is going on on the bus. Even an inexpensive 6200 with onboard memory has 4 GB/s or more. If you need the performance, get either a 6600 or wait a bit for the newer 7600. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:32:41 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have been married a little over 5 years. I let my wife manage the finances starting a few years ago. She knows how much money is in the bank down to a dime. If I tap-mac and get cash, I get the 3rd-degree of what was the money for, especially if I take out $100+ : ) Well, you could cut back on eating and save, say half your lunch money each day and stash it. Or switch to tea from *$ Lattes - Only $1.00 vs $3.50. It adds up pretty quick. I am afraid I am going to have to go the wuss route and ask the wifey-poo :) Don't do it. Trust me. You'll pay big time. That $100 will turn into $400 to $1,000 for her, plus a summer of chick flicks. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp server
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:09:21 +0530
Hiren Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
^ shouldn't that be a 2?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular Xorg 7 won't start with nVidia GeForce4 440 Go
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:48:36 -0700 Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the latest 8756 version of the nvidia driver. Try this - emerge -C nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx emerge -av =nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3 =nvidia-glx-1.0.8178-r1 Set the /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver def to nvidia and re-try starting X. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New USE flags???
On Tue, 9 May 2006 20:06:53 -0600 Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not even the most dogged user is going to read through every flag and decide if he wants it set or not. I do and set specific sets of flags for each machine I run. It does take about 30 min. and I do have to check for changes - USE flags going away, new ones, every six months or so, but a review is always a good thing. So, for example, Joe Hacker, who has a laptop and a server can explicitly unset all multimedia and office/desktop flags in ufed for his server while explicitly enabling just the server flags he needs while on his laptop he can enable all development flags and pick the desktop flags he wants in a matter of seconds rather than minutes because the desktop flags are all in the same catergory. You could also allow users even greater specificity over their flags with ufed by giving them the option to set flags on a per package basis, although this may be more effort than it's worth. You might want to peruse this GLEP - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0029.html It was withdrawn, but perhaps that was because other tasks took a higher priority and this needed to wait for them to complete. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] An alternative to http-replicator
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:25:25 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the pros/cons of mounting portage over NFS Vs http-replicator? If you only have one architecture and one system type or one system that can be a superset of the others, nfs will serve you fine. If you have multiple architectures, the packages release at different times and sometimes different revs. For this http-replicator is a better choice. For example - I run x86, amd64, and power pc. Thus, need a broader spectrum of packages. Or if you run desktops and servers (different sets of software) and don't have a common set of USE flags - use say, lighttpd, php, and mysql on the server but not on the desktop. Or more likely, use postfix, sasl, tinydns, and procmail on the server, but not the desktop (assumes the desktop uses LDAP or POP). Then http-replicator would be a better choice. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] An alternative to http-replicator
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:43:03 -0400 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My approach requires 2 emerges (boa and rsyncd) and their config files on the server plus inserting the server as the preferred mirror in 2 lines in /etc/make.conf on the client(s). That's close to what I do at work. Only I run a full Gentoo mirror because I need multiple architectures - x86, amd64, ia64, mips. Also, there are multiple users, and it's necessary to insure the LiveCDs and snapshots get transfered automatically. At home, http-replicator work fine for the small set of systems. No NFS required for either setup. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Portable Music Player
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:22:34 -0400 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to buy a portable music player, but I'm not sure what to get, so I'm polling for recommendations. Ogg/Vorbis support is a *requirement*, as is a Linux interface to the device. I've used a Neuros, V1, in the past for a few years and it's worked fine until the battery recharge circuitry ate itself. The hard drive is now in one of my Gentoo systems as a system drive. (Definition - after multiple firmware upgrades, it finally started working fine last year.) Downside of the V1 was that it's audio output was pretty crappy by my standards. The V2 and the new model coming out this fall, I can't comment on. I now use an iRiver IFP-999 with the ifp-line driver (it's emergable) and the ifpmanager, a perl script - http://ifp-manager.sourceforge.net/ I'd prefer to be able to simply mount it as a USB device, but as long as I can add/remove/view the contents of the player from Linux it'll be fine. A GPL/BSD firmware and/or Linux interface is a plus. The iriver doesn't act like a USB storage device, but it's easy enough to deal with. Beware, that not all iRiver products support Ogg/Vorbis. Check the specs. I'm not set on hard drive or flash based so feel free to recommend on either or both. Downside to hard drives - fragile, suck power, physically larger, will die sooner. Downside to flash - limited to 1 GB, at the moment, for reasonable costs. (Note, the 1 GB iRiver I bought was actually significantly less at iRiver's online store then their suggested list on their main web site - check the real prices.) Upside of hard drive - Was able to load up all 13 GB of music. For me, 1 GB of Ogg files on the iRiver is approx 120 songs. Upside of flash drive - Really small, lightweight, rugged, and easy to carry. Audio quality of this particular iRiver is very, very good when used with good headphones - the included ear buds suck. Sharp Zaurus - Audio quality out of the C860 or C3000 is outstanding. A bit tricky on the C3000 to get a player to play Ogg files, much easier on the 5600 or C860 - theKompany's $20 music player works ok. Music can be stored on SD or CF and moved in and out. USB network support is outstanding, while sync support still sucks on Linux. Downside is the Sharp's a a bit bulky, but they do include a keyboard and full computer functionality. Bob -- - Are you living in the real world? - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:24:18 -0500 cothrige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would seem that knowing that my files would be saved to the archive folder I had gotten a little bold when running dispatch-conf. But, I copied the old file back from the archive and ran alsaconf again. This time it seemed to work, though things still look funny. The old file may not be completely functional for the current alsa. It seems that you might just need ro re-emerge alsa-utils and run dispatch-conf, choosing u to overwrite /etc/init.d/alsasound. I do wonder if it will work on reboot, and I don't know if I should run rc-update on alsasound again. Yes it will work as it does now. Do a - ls -l /etc/runlevels/boot You'll see that it's just a link that rc-update creates. Would that have actually have corrected the problem in the first place? No. I fear that I really hate alsa which never seems to work right for me ever, no matter which distro I use or how I compile my kernels, and now with Gentoo things to consider I am somewhat lost. Alsa can seem difficult, but, in most cases the problem lies elsewhere. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:31:42 +0100 Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Linux becomes more mainstream or used in offices more then perhaps they might improve the efforts towards the Linux drivers. Here is why ATI won't become much better over time - most of their developers don't use Linux. If you've followed any of the interviews from ATI and Nvidia, you'll note significant differences. ATI has a dedicated team - started at around 5 developers, after they consolidated their driver teams. This grew to around 15, perhaps more today. ATI's management controls how much resources get dropped into Linux via dedicated funding. Nvidia has had a lot of internal pressure from their developers as many run Linux to do development, even for other platforms. Thus they have more than a dedicated core of driver developers for Linux, they have hard core Linux using developers. While Nvidia's management would like to control how much money goes into Linux driver development, they can't just tell their developers to switch platforms for their core work. But that doesn't mean that Nvidia's drivers are golden. They've got a broken driver with the 6x00 series of cards right now if you are running 16x10. It works fine with 5200/5900, previous gen cards. And, 1280x768 is not supported under WinXX or Linux with any version of Nvidia drivers. And this is with any current version of their drivers - nv (in Xorg), 6629, and 7664. ATI, on the other hand has never considered 16x10, it's not a valid resolution. They do support 1280x768, but their cards - 9250, seem to die pretty quickly with heavy 3D use - well, half an hour of UT. I'm happy with them at the moment, yes there are things that could be improved - but aren't there always? :) I really tried to not pre-judge them and tried various options using their cards - Xorg, flgrx, and even went third party - Xig. Simply put - I'll not be buying any more ATI cards. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:46:43 +0200 Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Ati 9600 in my Inspiron works perfectly in 16:10 with the Ati-drivers. I doubt that. Maybe at 16x9 - 1600 x 900, but not 1600 x 1024. Or perahps Dell paid ATI to support that one model of display. Regardless it's not generic - the mode is not recognized under radeon, nor under fglrx. Perhaps you were thinking of 1450x1024? Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fixing xfs filesystem?
On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:20:02 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A short time ago, there was a quick power outage, because of which some of my xfs filesystems broke :( xfs_repair also isn't successful :( [20:55:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ sudo xfs_repair /dev/mapper/Crypt-daten Phase 1 - find and verify superblock... bad primary superblock - bad magic number !!! attempting to find secondary superblock... Try - xfs_repair -no /dev/hdx And if that works, drop the n and fix the filesystem. btw - Did the mount of the filesystem fail? Bob -- - Are you living in the real world? - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fixing xfs filesystem?
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:15:48 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw - Did the mount of the filesystem fail? Sure :(( Well, this is a real long shot; but, given that nothing sane has worked... With fdisk/cfdisk/parted, after writing down the starting block and length, delete the partition, and write the partition table, and exit. Go back into whichever you used and create the partition at the exact starting block - it should default to the correct parameters. Then write the partition, exit, and sync. Then run xfs_repair on the partition. It might rebuild the filesystem now that the partition tables and inodes are back in a sane state. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I think I messed up USE flag by using -alsa as Gnome has no sound
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:10:34 +0200 Szabo Bence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I haven't got any sound too. I emerged all the alsa things, and when I alsaconf tries to start the sound I get this: Loading driver... * Loading ALSA modules ... * Loading:snd-card-0 ... * ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers In /etc/modules.d/alsa, do you have - ## ALSA portion alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 And did you do a modules-update ? Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended GB NIC
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:10:40 -0500 Michael Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have several Dell Precision workstations (530, 610, and 620 models) with 3Com 3c905 10/100 NICs. We'd like to upgrade the NICs to GB. Which GB PCI card would you recommend to work with Gentoo 2005.0 running Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4? Intel, Broadcom, 3Com? Yes. They all work. The Broadcom Tigon3 will generally give higher sustained throughput. While I don't know, nor care about, the specific Dell models, if you don't have a 64-bit 66 MHz slot for the GigE board, heavy use of the net port will cause problems. The typical 32-bit 33 MHz bus will saturate with network transactions. And that bus saturation can cause...umm...interesting system behavior. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Advice on hardware
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:06:52 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any advice? Yes - Get a 939 pin processor. 754 pin socket is going away. Also, it's not just the motherboard. If you are a gamer - start with the Gfx card. If you are going for one of the high end cards, be aware they suck down 75+ watts - more than the cpu will. A specifically designed power supply for these cards is called for, otherwise you;ll be back here asking about random compile failures, graphics lockups, corrupt file systems, etc. To support the gfx card and the system, you'll need a power supply that has a decent continous power rating, such as a PC PowerCooling Silencer 470ATX. If you want an SLI config, then the PC PowerCooling Turbo-Cool 510 Express/SLI is called for. PS: Nvidia would be my choice for video, anyone have suggestions? Unless you have a specific need for high end, a 6600 GT works well with a smaller power draw - 350 W power supply. Here is a partial output of the Shuttle SN95G5 that I'm running with an xfx 6600GT - Operating System Information Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 #1 Mon Jul 11 19:02:55 PDT 2005 on x86_64 Memory Information Total RAM 1025124 kB Total Swap 1999864 kB CPU Information CPU 01 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Advice on hardware
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:56:58 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, I do not now PC Power Cooling, but I've had a couple of PSUs so far and the 'best' was and is an Enermax. A friend of mine has Enermax too, reliable good stuff. Yes and no. The basic power supply is good. However Enermax used to, last year, put below spec pins and wires in their wiring harness. While it's not a big deal, their supplies can't deliver the rated power to the PC components. Some of us were all set to do business with them when we tried the production samples and found this out. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Daily dumb question... chron.
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:06:29 +0100
Steve [Gentoo] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ne.
I've noticed the directories /etc/cron.daily; /etc/cron.hourly;
/etc/cron.monthly etc. and therein a bunch of non-user-specific
administration tasks... For example, in ./etc/cron.daily I've
logrotate.cron and rulesdujour - but none of these appear to have run in
the last month. Are thse system tasks supposed to be fired
automatically by fcron?
Yes. In the ebuild it says -
einfo To activate /etc/cron.{hourly|daily|weekly|montly} please run:
einfo crontab /etc/crontab
What would be the easiest way to get all my
periodic system administration tasks defined in these directories to be
fired automatically? Did I make a sensible choice with fcron?
I just add the tasks to s specific script in the appropriate account and insure
the
script is executable. It all works fine with fcron.
Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xwindows stopped working. No errors in Xorg log file.
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:57:47 -0700 Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run a pretty stable system. I do however run ~x86 for KDE and Gnome. Something changed recently in an emerge -Davu world or system that causes X to not start anymore? If you are not doing the script updates, then you are not running a stable system. Please do all the script updates, then reboot your system. [0] -1 0 0x2a40 - 0x2a7f (0x40) MX[B] (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x0185) rev 193, Mem @ Seems the driver you are running doesn't know which chip is on the Gfx card. Perhaps you should add ~x86 to nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx. FWIW - I have to restart X - ^ALTDEL, about 3 times to get a visible display with the nvidia driver - 7667, but that's due to the 6600GT I'm running. Maybe they'll get a new bios out for it. But once started it runs fine at 1280x1024. I even get 3D acceleration. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Going to Ubuntu - was 1.) Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interupt handler
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:50:49 -0600 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't clear, the computer runs usually for 20 to 30minus and kernel panic comes up on the screen. I'm still googling for some solutions and I can only find some suggestion; no clear answer. i I think you have hardware problems - maybe a heat issue. have you tried running with the covers off and a fan blowing onto the system? I think I went too fast for AMD64; I should have stayed with x86 and old good IDE drive. Somebody suggested: Enabling 32 bit mode for the drives in the BIOS to cure this problem. I'll check my Bios the next time it will crash :-/ i Yes, 32-bit should be enabled, but I can't see where it would cause this problem. fwiw - this is being sent from an AMD64 3000, nforce3 chipset, Shuttle box, IDE drive, running Gentoo - # uname -av Linux chi 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 #1 Mon Jul 11 19:02:55 PDT 2005 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [ I] kde-base/kdebase (3.4.1-r1): KDE base packages: the desktop, panel, window [ I] sys-devel/gcc (3.4.3-r1): The GNU Compiler Collection. Includes C/C++, Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Going to Ubuntu - was 1.) Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interupt handler
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:46:42 -0600 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't find the 32-bit mode feature in BIOS setting. Under what menu is it? Usually associated with the IDE controller or drives. Most newer bios' have it set to - AUTO, which should switch it into 32-bit, aka LBA mode. Probably under - Integrated Peripherals. It may also say something like - IDE Primary MASTER UDMA Auto. Previously as was able to compile only few packages running for 20min before crashing. Now, I was able to keep compiling for about 2-hours before kernel panic showed up. From what you've said, I think it might be useful to remove the cpu heatsink and check the state of the thermal material. Look to see if the cpu is in full contact with it. The downside to doing this is the thermal material is single use only. You'll need some alcohol to remove the material, after inspecting, then some decent Thermal compound to replace it. While it's been shown not to make a lot of difference in the short run, I tend to prefer the Artic Silver products because they are stable over time. The normal white grease drys out as do some others. The single use thermal pads are fine and generally work well. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] devpts question
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:50:04 -0300 Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am very curious about something, when I boot the system I can see the message mounting /dev/pts, well I looked at /etc/conf.d/rc and didn't find anything about devfs on my kernel options in filesystem-pseudofilesystem the devpts option is disbled did I miss a spot or am I going crazy ? /dev/pts are the pusedo terminals, I think. They are used to run jobs in virtual space. Not really associated with devfs specifcally. They are under - Symbol: UNIX98_PTYS [=y] Prompt: Unix98 PTY support Defined at drivers/char/Kconfig:425 Depends on: EMBEDDED Location: - Device Drivers - Character devices Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:50:05 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, pretty lame, but that's why I missed the cdrecord man page. I did not think there was one... i The cdrecord man page is part of - app-cdr/cdrtools Perhaps it needs to be re-emerged? Any ideas how to get ALL of the man pages possible to all of the installed software on a gentoo system? They should be emerged as part of the installed software. Perhaps there are some issues with the manpath on your system? Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update - was 1.) Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interupt handler
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:52:09 -0600 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody has any other solutions? i There are a few tools that will allow you to do some diagnosing. These will isolate your harddrive and drive controllers. app-benchmarks/bonnie (2.0.6): Performance Test of Filesystem I/O using standard C library calls. app-benchmarks/bonnie++ (1.93c): Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite. If is is the motherboard, it should fall over pretty quick. Another tool I like is - app-benchmarks/stress (0.18.6): Imposes stressful loads on different aspects of the system. You'll have to add - app-benchmarks/stress x86, to your /etc/portage/package.keywords as they don't have the amd64 keyword in the ebuild. It builds and runs fine. Stress allows you to load all or parts of the system up for a defined period of time. It's even possible to run the system out of resources. It's a real nice test of system stabilty. All except the Xserver and that's easy to add by running 3 of the rss-glx screensavers from a term while running stress. And if you make the virtual memory component large enough at runtime, the system will start swapping. This line will get the load up to about 20 and cause about 500MB of swapping to occur on a 1P amd64 system with 1 GB of main memory - stress --cpu 16 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 1024M --timeout 60s -d 2 Change the timeout to be around 5 minutes or 600 seconds. Get a tail -f /var/log/messages or use root-tail. And get a top running in another term. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] problems on AMD64
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:12:02 +0200 Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the above mentioned sound card installed in my dual 252 Opteron. I have enabled ALSA and OSS emulation in the kernel and everything is compiled in, no alsa modules. The card is correctly detected on boot-up and apparently activated. i OSS should not be selected in the kernel. Only alsa. For Oss, you need to emerge - media-libs/alsa-oss Everything seems to be configured correctly according to the alsa guide. The problem is that I am only hearing cyclically repeating clicks, with weak static noise in-between, when I am trying to play music. I have a set of analog 2.1 speakers connected to the analog output jack on the card. Repeating clicks is usually an indication of empty audio buffers. It means your system can't keep the sound card supplied with data. You might be able to get some help by making your kernel preemptible - Symbol: PREEMPT [=y] x Prompt: Preemptible Kernel x Defined at arch/x86_64/Kconfig:210 x Location: x - Processor type and features The weak static noise is digital garbage being picked up by the SB. If it's not already, move it to the last PCI slot on the bus - as far away from the other cards and cpu as possible. Any ideas why this doesn't work? SB Audigy cards aren't the best sounding cards out there. They are OK, but if you mainly want music, look elsewhere. If you're mainly interested in games they work fine. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] problems on AMD64
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:00:34 +0200 Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried that. No success. Tried disabling ACPI too, same result (noise and clicks). Given you have am amd64 based machine, I'm pretty surprised at the noise. What else is on the PCI bus? As to cards, it doesn't need to be amd64 specific, if alsa supports it, they will work. For decent sound most cards with an envy24 controller and 24-bit DACs are pretty good. You;ll use more cpu to run them, but nothing significant. One card is M-Audio's Revolution 7.1. Another I like to run the Headroom's Bitwise headphone amp. It hooks up via USB. While the DAC is only 16-bit, it does a really grest job. Plus it's outside the box. Beware USB attached sound cards, while some work, many require firmware downloads to function. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:38:38 +0200 Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emerge --sync emerge -vauDN today gave me the following error. I had no problem, on my amd64 system, emergeing firefox this morning - [ I] www-client/mozilla-firefox (1.0.6-r2): Firefox Web Browser Here is my emerge info - Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2004.3, gcc-3.4.3, glibc-2.3.5-r0, 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 x86_64) = System uname: 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13 ccache version 2.3 [disabled] dev-lang/python: 2.3.5 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.11 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.5 sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r10 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.18-r1 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/env /usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-O2 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig candy distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo; MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=amd64 3dnowex X a52 aac accessibility acpi alsa audiofile avi bitmap-fonts bmp bzip2 bzlib cap cdinstall cdparanoia cdr cdrom codecs cpudetection crypt css cups curl curlwrappers dga dillo dv dvd dvdr dvdread emul-linux encode escreen esd exif fame ffmpeg fftw flac flash fluidsynth foomaticdb freetype gd gdbm gif gimp gimpprint gkrellm glut gmp gpm gs gtk gtk2 ieee1394 image imlib imlib2 ithreads jack-tmpfs jpeg jpeg2k ladcca lcms libcaca lirc lm_sensors lzo lzw mad mbox mime ming mixer mjpeg mng mp3 mpeg mpeg2 mpeg4 mplayer multilib mythtv nls nptl nvidia offensive ogg oggvorbis openal opengl oss pcre pdf pdfkit pdflib perl php png portaudio posix ppds python quicktime rar real rtc ruby sdk slang sndfile spell ssl svg tcltk theora tiff transcode usb uudeview v4l2 vcd vcdimager vhosts vorbis wmf xanim xfs xine xml xml2 xmms xosd xpm xscreensaver xv xvid xvmc yv12 zlib zvbi userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] problems on AMD64
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:51:53 +0200 Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your advise. I got sound working by disabling ALSA and using OSS instead. I think this is an ALSA AMD64 issue. No, it's not. The reason I can say that is I have a 2P Opteron with the same chipset as your system and a SB Audigy 2. Running alsa causes no problems. It's either a hardware issue or a kernel issue. At some point, the problem will need resolution as kernel OSS is going away. But for now I'm glad you have it working. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
