Re: [JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts

[Tom]

will give it a try, thanks

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 7:50 PM 
To: jul 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts 

Focus on the account you want to move. Press shift F10. Arrow down to move 
up or move down and click on what you want to do to that account.  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:35 PM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts

can someone tell me how to rearrange the order of my email accounts in wlm?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts

[T. Civitello]

Focus on the account you want to move. Press shift F10. Arrow down to move 
up or move down and click on what you want to do to that account.  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:35 PM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts

can someone tell me how to rearrange the order of my email accounts in wlm?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

[Kimsan]

He basically meant it would be on the programs page.

The index of the programs page = the created page he called programs. On his
website.
At least that's what I gathered after reading " index of the programs page"
Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

Howdy Señor Ferrin,

Do you mean this CCleaner download link would be on the homepage like the
Help link?
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link


I could easily incorporate this on the index of the programs page and my job
would be done until they change something.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:29 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

Hi All,

Since CCleaner makes it such a pain in the a** to get the free / standard
version, below is a direct download link for whatever the latest version is!
Save it!

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard


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Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

[Mike B.]

Howdy Señor Ferrin,

Do you mean this CCleaner download link would be on the homepage like the 
Help link?
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link


I could easily incorporate this on the index of the programs page and my job
would be done until they change something.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:29 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

Hi All,

Since CCleaner makes it such a pain in the a** to get the free / standard
version, below is a direct download link for whatever the latest version is!
Save it!

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[patti]

Yes it was on my computer when I downloaded C cleaner. Unchecky didn't
uncheck it, lol, so I had to go rip it out of my computer.
Patti

Hi Andy,

I'm sorry I didn't warn y'all about that Chrome & Toolbar crap!
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: andy t
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google
tool
bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
> from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
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> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
> a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
>> Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
>> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
>> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
>> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
>> click
>> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
>> organized
>> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
>> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
>> give
>> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
>> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
>> the
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
>> me
>> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
>> control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
>> etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
>> vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
>> installed and up to date.
>>
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902
>>
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many 

Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

[David Ferrin]

I could easily incorporate this on the index of the programs page and my job 
would be done until they change something.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:29 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

Hi All,

Since CCleaner makes it such a pain in the a** to get the free / standard
version, below is a direct download link for whatever the latest version is!
Save it!

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard


Take Care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts

[Mike B.]

Hi Tom,

Here is a note I've saved that might help you:
Hi All,

Someone was looking for WLM info the other day & below is a guide.

There's a guide to windows live mail 2011 for users of Jaws which may be
helpful:
http://goo.gl/mnHqJ
Most of it is also applicable to users of other screen readers, and windows
live mail 2011 and 2012 are almost identical.

David.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Tom
To: jul
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:35 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts


can someone tell me how to rearrange the order of my email accounts in wlm?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

[TheHangMan]

Mike,
 Thanks, I think I'll Join the CC conga  line!
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:29 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

Hi All,

Since CCleaner makes it such a pain in the a** to get the free / standard
version, below is a direct download link for whatever the latest version is!

Save it!

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard


Take Care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

[jyandt.martin]

Not at all. I appreciate any and all advice/information.
Merry Christmas

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

Ok, windows live mail.
Focus on the email and press f12. The save as dialog will pop up, press f3
where you will land in a searchbox, and here you could tab twice to verify
where the emails are being saved. By default the documents will probabbly be
the location.
Just press enter to save.
Jerry, if you're reading this. I appologize if the thread confused you, as I
think we were talking outlook express, wlm and outlook.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

Hi Jerry,

I believe that you just wanted to know if you could save email files to your
My Documents folder, & the rest of us went way the hell off course!  Yes you
can!  As stated earlier you choose the, Save As, dialogue, then tab to,
Save, & press enter, or pressing, Alt + S, might getter done as well.  You
should experiment with saving messages a little, but I think that it should
save the messages to your My Documents by default, & you can navigate by
tabbing to your folder list tree view to save elsewhere.  I don't use
Windows Live Mail, so don't take what I am saying for granted.

Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM


Not possible in my experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

If saving several emails to a single text file in Outlook Express at 1 time,
can be done, I don't know how to do it.  On the other hand that is something
I wouldn't do because when I save an email, whether as in.eml or.txt format,
I always take as much extraneous info out as possible, & I also edit /
rewrite the message as necessary.
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM


For the record, it also works in Outlook. I never figured that one out.
Thanks. But now I remember the Outlook difference, as I experienced it from
OE. In Outlook, you can save multiple messages to a single text file in one
operation. Perhaps Mike B will find that this is also possible in OE, too.
In that case, things improved since I gave up on OE lo those many years ago.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

Yes I can do it with the
f12 key
then tab through the options
Good luck
woo hoo
-Original Message-
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM


You could copy and paste the email message you want to save into Notepad,
and then save it as a .txt file in My Documents.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

Good Morning Folks.
Can anyone tell me if there is a way to save emails from WLM to my
documents? Thanks.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] windows updates

[anna vimini]

Thanks Joseph for that bit of information

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows updates
Hi,
Three reasons:
1. Reducing fragmentation: because people chose to install updates they
wanted, it became a bit hard for Microsoft to track down issues and come up
with workarounds as quickly as possible, hence cumulative update model was
implemented in an attempt to reduce this.
2. Ease of deployment: the idea behind this move is to get people up to
speed in getting their computers updated to latest patch level in one move.
3. Windows 10's influence: Window 10 embodies the above reasons when it
comes to CU's (at times, cumulative updates caused issues).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [
mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
Behalf Of anna vimini
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:50 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows updates

I was looking in my update history and noticed that since October I have
only been getting four updates they are updates for adobe flash player the
mullishous removal tool and the monthly roll up for windows 8.1 and the
quality security update for the . net frame work

does any one know why they switched to the monthly roll ups? instead of the
way they use to send updates for the system



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Re: [JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

[patti]

Thanks Mike
Patti

Hi All,

Since CCleaner makes it such a pain in the a** to get the free / standard
version, below is a direct download link for whatever the latest version is!

Save it!

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard


Take Care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[andy t]

Hello Mike I have downloaded it before and ran across this but for some 
reason I could not download it this morning I clicked every download on the
dorn sight for Ccleaner I don't know what they did over there I saved a link 
in my favorites for a sight with out the junk but when I went to it this
morning it took me to the regular sight but I could not download it no 
matter what I did.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Andy,

I'm sorry I didn't warn y'all about that Chrome & Toolbar crap!
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: andy t

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google
tool
bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows updates

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
Three reasons:
1. Reducing fragmentation: because people chose to install updates they
wanted, it became a bit hard for Microsoft to track down issues and come up
with workarounds as quickly as possible, hence cumulative update model was
implemented in an attempt to reduce this.
2. Ease of deployment: the idea behind this move is to get people up to
speed in getting their computers updated to latest patch level in one move.
3. Windows 10's influence: Window 10 embodies the above reasons when it
comes to CU's (at times, cumulative updates caused issues).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of anna vimini
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows updates

I was looking in my update history and noticed that since October I have
only been getting four updates they are updates for adobe flash player the
mullishous removal tool and the monthly roll up for windows 8.1  and the
quality security update for the . net frame work

does any one know why they switched to the monthly roll ups? instead of the
way they use to send updates for the system

thanks in advance


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[JAWS-Users] windows updates

[anna vimini]

I was looking in my update history and noticed that since October I have 
only been getting four updates they are updates for adobe flash player 
the mullishous removal tool and the monthly roll up for windows 8.1  and 
the quality security update for the . net frame work


does any one know why they switched to the monthly roll ups? instead of 
the way they use to send updates for the system


thanks in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Maria Campbell]

Hey Kimson, would you please stop being so respectful?  LOL


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/19/2016 3:37 PM, Kimsan wrote:

I'm sure my computer is important to me just as yours.

I would bet the farm a majority of the folks here may have not known about
the supposed work around; however, thanks for sharing.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

There is a work around for the checkbox issue.

The items are presented in a tree view.  Upon arriving at the beginning of
the tree branch, checking and unchecking the main branch will force all the
other checkboxes to be checked, and thereby showing with Jaws.

You can now go down the list unchecking the boxes you want to uncheck and
leaving the items you want checked.

Not sure why people are getting put down by this little issue.

My computer is important enough that a little problem like this would not
deter me from using such a valuable product.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

I'm sure my computer is important to me just as yours. 

I would bet the farm a majority of the folks here may have not known about
the supposed work around; however, thanks for sharing.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

There is a work around for the checkbox issue.

The items are presented in a tree view.  Upon arriving at the beginning of
the tree branch, checking and unchecking the main branch will force all the
other checkboxes to be checked, and thereby showing with Jaws.

You can now go down the list unchecking the boxes you want to uncheck and
leaving the items you want checked.

Not sure why people are getting put down by this little issue.

My computer is important enough that a little problem like this would not
deter me from using such a valuable product.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] rearrange email accounts

[Tom]

can someone tell me how to rearrange the order of my email accounts in wlm?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Andy,

I'm sorry I didn't warn y'all about that Chrome & Toolbar crap!
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: andy t
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google
tool
bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
> from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
> a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
>> Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
>> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
>> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
>> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
>> click
>> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
>> organized
>> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
>> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
>> give
>> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
>> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
>> the
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
>> me
>> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
>> control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
>> etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
>> vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
>> installed and up to date.
>>
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902
>>
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hi

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Scorpio]

There is a work around for the checkbox issue.

The items are presented in a tree view.  Upon arriving at the beginning of 
the tree branch, checking and unchecking the main branch will force all the 
other checkboxes to be checked, and thereby showing with Jaws.


You can now go down the list unchecking the boxes you want to uncheck and 
leaving the items you want checked.


Not sure why people are getting put down by this little issue.

My computer is important enough that a little problem like this would not 
deter me from using such a valuable product.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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[JAWS-Users] CCleaner Direct Download Link

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Since CCleaner makes it such a pain in the a** to get the free / standard 
version, below is a direct download link for whatever the latest version is! 
Save it!

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard


Take Care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

Yeah, the best thing is to simply wait until it's on the jaws-users.com
site. I found it once by luck on the regular site, but since then nope.
When David shuts down this site, we are all in trouble lol. Or just start
sending Mike B requests for the program. :)

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene,

It takes a little practice to learn how the CCleaner website is layed out,
but for the time being quit frustrating yourself, & get it from the
Jaws-Users website.  I posted the direct link a little awhile ago.  The
Puriform website has always been a pain in the a** to navigate.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have a
hard time using even free products from a company that employs such
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.

First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at the
same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their installer
with third party products that install regardless of whether you left the
check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still had it install
chrome and the google toolbar.

Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!

As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other
greedy money grabbing companies.

End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> Jean,
> I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the 
> word Bree appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you 
> want, or if you run the pro version without purchasing it, will it run 
> as a free version? I purchase the pro version recently, so I have not 
> downloaded the free version for a few months. Good luck.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner  wrote:
>
> Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free 
> version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being 
> downloaded is for the pro version.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
>> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will 
>> help you find it.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
>> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his 
>> website under the programs page.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Kimsan Song
>> kimsans...@icloud.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just 
>> spent the last half hour trying to download the free version of 
>> CCleaner and either the web site ran me around in circles or kept 
>> trying to push pro on me.
>>
>> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell 
>> you something you don't want.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Gene,
>>>
>>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, 
>>> & go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by 
>>> default.
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Gene Warner
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no 
>>> longer know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have 
>>> nothing to use as a known reference.
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
 On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
 Hi Dave & Gene,

 If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, 
 Options, & Settings do the following.
 1. Find an option you know the status of.
 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
 It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene,

It takes a little practice to learn how the CCleaner website is layed out, 
but for the time being quit frustrating yourself, & get it from the 
Jaws-Users website.  I posted the direct link a little awhile ago.  The 
Puriform website has always been a pain in the a** to navigate.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have
a hard time using even free products from a company that employs such
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.

First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at
the same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their
installer with third party products that install regardless of whether
you left the check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still
had it install chrome and the google toolbar.

Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!

As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other
greedy money grabbing companies.

End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> Jean,
> I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word 
> Bree appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if 
> you run the pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free 
> version? I purchase the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the 
> free version for a few months. Good luck.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner  wrote:
>
> Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free 
> version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded 
> is for the pro version.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
>> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help 
>> you find it.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
>> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his 
>> website
>> under the programs page.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Kimsan Song
>> kimsans...@icloud.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent 
>> the
>> last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
>> the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.
>>
>> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
>> something you don't want.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Gene,
>>>
>>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
>>> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by 
>>> default.
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Gene Warner
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
>>> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
>>> as a known reference.
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
 On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
 Hi Dave & Gene,

 If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
 & Settings do the following.
 1. Find an option you know the status of.
 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
 It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
 press
 enter, then it will say edit button.
 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
 NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
 Dennis
 Take Care.
 Mike
 Sent from my iBarstool.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


 Gene,

 That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[andy t]

Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight 
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and 
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google 
tool

bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner,
but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

There is a program called unchecky that will take care of the extra stuff
that it tries to install; however, there's an argument that it's not 110%
bullet proof.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have a
hard time using even free products from a company that employs such
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.

First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at the
same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their installer
with third party products that install regardless of whether you left the
check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still had it install
chrome and the google toolbar.

Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!

As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other
greedy money grabbing companies.

End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> Jean,
> I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word
Bree appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if you
run the pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free version? I
purchase the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the free version
for a few months. Good luck.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner  wrote:
>
> Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free
version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded
is for the pro version.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
>> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help
you find it.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
>> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his 
>> website under the programs page.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Kimsan Song
>> kimsans...@icloud.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just 
>> spent the last half hour trying to download the free version of 
>> CCleaner and either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying
to push pro on me.
>>
>> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell 
>> you something you don't want.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Gene,
>>>
>>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, 
>>> & go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by
default.
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Gene Warner
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no 
>>> longer know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have 
>>> nothing to use as a known reference.
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
 On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
 Hi Dave & Gene,

 If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, 
 Options, & Settings do the following.
 1. Find an option you know the status of.
 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
 It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
 press
 enter, then it will say edit button.
 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
 NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
 Dennis
 Take Care.
 Mike
 Sent from my iBarstool.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 
 10


 Gene,

 That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, 
 and continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

And it did not, as the only free I located was "start free trial"

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David G. Carlson Via iPhone
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
> 
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & 
> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use 
> as a known reference.
> 
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>> 
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, 
>> & Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Gene,
>> 
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls 
>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought 
>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the 
>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to 
>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top, 
>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear 
>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version 
>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my 
>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it 
>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to 
>> do
a restart.
>> 
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read 
>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on 
>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because 
>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs 
>> I always had installed and up to date.
>> 
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is
>> v5.25.5902
>> 
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks 
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial 
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
>>> installing 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have 
a hard time using even free products from a company that employs such 
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.


First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at 
the same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their 
installer with third party products that install regardless of whether 
you left the check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still 
had it install chrome and the google toolbar.


Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can 
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!


As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free 
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other 
greedy money grabbing companies.


End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

Jean,
I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word Bree 
appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if you run the 
pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free version? I purchase 
the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the free version for a few 
months. Good luck.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner  wrote:

Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free version, but 
when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded is for the pro 
version.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
as a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
& Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do

a restart.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David Ferrin]

Thanks to Mike who keeps me up to date with the latest version as they come 
out.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner,
but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

Jean,
I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word Bree 
appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if you run the 
pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free version? I purchase 
the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the free version for a few 
months. Good luck.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner  wrote:

Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free version, but 
when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded is for the pro 
version.

Cheers!



> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
> find it.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:
> 
> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
> under the programs page.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
> last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
> the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.
> 
> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
> something you don't want.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>> 
>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
>> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Gene Warner
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
>> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
>> as a known reference.
>> 
>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>> 
>>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
>>> & Settings do the following.
>>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>>> press
>>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>>> Dennis
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Dave
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gene,
>>> 
>>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
>>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
>>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
>>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
>>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
>>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
>>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
>>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
>>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
>>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
>>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
>>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
> a restart.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read
>>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on
>>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because
>>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs
>>> I always had installed and up to date.
>>> 
>>> By the way, according to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

OK. Glad to help.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Gene Warner  wrote:

Ooh! I hadn't thought of that!

Thanks!



> On 12/19/2016 3:15 PM, Kimsan wrote:
> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
> under the programs page.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
> last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
> the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.
> 
> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
> something you don't want.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>> 
>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
>> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Gene Warner
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
>> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
>> as a known reference.
>> 
>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>> 
>>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
>>> & Settings do the following.
>>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>>> press
>>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>>> Dennis
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Dave
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gene,
>>> 
>>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
>>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
>>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
>>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
>>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
>>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
>>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
>>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
>>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
>>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
>>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
>>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
> a restart.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read
>>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on
>>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because
>>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs
>>> I always had installed and up to date.
>>> 
>>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is
>>> v5.25.5902
>>> 
>>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
>>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
>>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
 Hi
 
 About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
 installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were
 installed, I can no longer run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive
 the message:
 
 New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
 this PC, CCleaner doesn't work 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free 
version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being 
downloaded is for the pro version.


Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
as a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
& Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do

a restart.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read
the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on
or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because
before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs
I always had installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is
v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were
installed, I can no longer run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive
the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn
more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of
cCleaner, but I still get that notification when I try to run it.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Ooh! I hadn't thought of that!

Thanks!



On 12/19/2016 3:15 PM, Kimsan wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
as a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
& Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do

a restart.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read
the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on
or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because
before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs
I always had installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is
v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were
installed, I can no longer run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive
the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn
more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of
cCleaner, but I still get that notification when I try to run it.


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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For answers 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan  wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
> 
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & 
> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use 
> as a known reference.
> 
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>> 
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, 
>> & Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Gene,
>> 
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls 
>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought 
>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the 
>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to 
>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information. 
>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top, 
>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear 
>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version 
>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my 
>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it 
>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
a restart.
>> 
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read 
>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on 
>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because 
>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs 
>> I always had installed and up to date.
>> 
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is 
>> v5.25.5902
>> 
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks 
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial 
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
>>> installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were 
>>> installed, I can no longer run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive 
>>> the message:
>>> 
>>> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on 
>>> this PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn 
>>> more
>>> 
>>> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of 
>>> cCleaner, but I still get that 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs 
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
> from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
> a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
>> Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
>> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
>> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
>> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
>> click
>> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
>> organized
>> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
>> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
>> give
>> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
>> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
>> the
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows 
>> me
>> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
>> control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
>> etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
>> vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
>> installed and up to date.
>>
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902
>>
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
>>> installing
>>> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
>>> longer
>>> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>>>
>>> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on 
>>> this
>>> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>>>
>>> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, 
>>> but
>>> I
>>> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>>>
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & 
> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use 
> as a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, 
>> & Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls 
>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought 
>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the 
>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to 
>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information. 
>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top, 
>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear 
>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version 
>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my 
>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it 
>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read 
>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on 
>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because 
>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs 
>> I always had installed and up to date.
>>
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is 
>> v5.25.5902
>>
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks 
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial 
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
>>> installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were 
>>> installed, I can no longer run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive 
>>> the message:
>>>
>>> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on 
>>> this PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn 
>>> more
>>>
>>> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of 
>>> cCleaner, but I still get that notification when I try to run it.
>>>
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent 
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and 
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro 
on me.


I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you 
something you don't want.


Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Thanks, Mike!

It will be really nice to be able to use CCleaner again.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go 
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Dave & Gene,
>
> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
> Settings do the following.
> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, 
> press
> enter, then it will say edit button.
> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
> Dennis
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Dave
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Gene,
>
> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can 
> click
> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be 
> organized
> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should 
> give
> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using 
> the
> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gene Warner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
> control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
> etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
> vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
> installed and up to date.
>
> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902
>
> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
>> installing
>> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
>> longer
>> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>>
>> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
>> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>>
>> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
>> I
>> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant

[zoe fiogkos]

Internet explorer


by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory. My only
hope is that it won't be too late..  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Luis Guerra
Sent: December 18, 2016 8:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant

Which web browser are you using?

On 12/18/2016 1:17 AM, Luis Guerra wrote:
> Oracle bundles sneaky 'Amazon Assistant' browser extension with Java
> installer
>
> by
> Posts by James Risley
>  on April 18, 2016 at 1:46 pm
>
> amazon java offer
> Oracle's Java has long come with third-party sponsored offers that add
> toolbars to your browser and change the homepage to a partner's site. It
> used to
> be Ask.com's toolbar that was installed, but last year
> Ask.com was replaced with Yahoo,
> which made its search engine the default for users who failed to uncheck
> a small box during the installation processes.
>
> Now, Amazon is taking over that spot, bringing its own
> extension
>  and
> search engine
>  to your browser with every Java install, unless you opt out.
>
> The exit of Yahoo from the installer is notable given the company's
> ongoing business struggles. Given the large number of people who still
> need to download
> and update Java, the installer is a way for a third party to quickly add
> to its user base.
>
> Amazon's extension allows users to price match against Amazon options
> across the web. Its search engine is powered by Google, but emphasizes
> Amazon products
> like IMDb, Goodreads and Amazon product pages.
>
> It appears the new installation behavior
> started in January,
> but other than
> an FAQ page
>  on Oracle's site, neither company has announced the feature widely.
> We've reached out to Amazon and Oracle for comment and will update if we
> hear back.
>
>
> On 12/17/2016 8:58 PM, zoe fiogkos wrote:
>> I have no idea what it is or how it got on my laptop. It's annoying me
>> because everytime I boot up my laptop or go to my desktop while using the
>> laptop I hear jaws say rezzarr resources 104 dll. And the window does
>> nothing. So someone said to uninstall the program but it won't go away.
>> Regards
>> Zoe
>>
>>
>> by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
>> said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
>> faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory.
>> My only
>> hope is that it won't be too late..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
>> Sent: December 17, 2016 3:06 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant
>>
>> Hi Zoe, This is Vicky. I have not heard of Amazon Assistant before this.
>>
>> In what way is this supposed to help? What about it has annoyed you,
>> to want
>>
>> to get rid of it?
>>
>> Thank you very much for helping me to understand it.
>>
>> Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: zoe fiogkos
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 10:57 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant
>>
>> Hi guys, I wrote about this a few days ago and I thought the problem was
>> solved.
>> I go to control panel.
>> I click uninstall a program.
>> It shows me a list of programs.
>> I find amazon assistant.
>> I select it and click enter.
>> A wizard pops up and asks me if I want to change or remove the program.
>> I hit enter on the remove button.
>> I get a amazon assistant was successfully removed, finish button.
>> I click finish button and restart my laptop.
>> I look in the control panel uninstall program list and it's gone.
>> A few hours later it's back.
>> Any ideas how to get rid of this thing perminantly?
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Regards
>> Zoe
>>
>>
>> by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
>> said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
>> faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory.
>> My only
>> hope is that it won't be too late..
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Good suggestion. Perhaps my scripts have always been set this way  since way 
back.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:03
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as 
a known reference.


Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

That's been my experience. I wonder why there's such a disparity between 
users of the same operating system and JAWS versions?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Subash" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 09:35
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I am running it on windows 7 and windows 8.1 on another computer and have no
issues with it.
Haven't tried it on Win 10 as yet.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Gene,

Close enough for me.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 08:41
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Dave

Who is terraform? Last I knew, the developers of CCleaner were Piriform.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 11:19 AM, Dave wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I can't speak for Windows 10, and if that's true, then I suspect CCleaner
> will very quickly fix that issue. Have you visited the Terraform web site 
> to
> see if there is a free version listed under Windows 10 specifically?
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike O'Brien" 
> To: "jaws-users-list" 
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:15
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no 
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but 
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, & 
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press 
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Subash]

I am running it on windows 7 and windows 8.1 on another computer and have no 
issues with it.

Haven't tried it on Win 10 as yet.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[John Vernaleken`]

Have the same problem.

John


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.  


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Dave

Some of it was accessible after a fashion, for example, JAWS would not 
read whether an option in the application cleaner was checked or not 
after I clicked it until I left it and came back to it. Then the startup 
options use push-on, push-off (like a ballpoint pen) buttons instead of 
check boxes, and I could never get JAWS to tell me if those buttons were 
pushed or not. There were other issues too, the whole thing seemed 
pretty hit or miss as to whether it was accessible or not. My last 
attempt to use it was with CCleaner version 5.x and JAWS 17 on Windows 7.


I've tried to use it several times over the past 3 years hoping things 
would improve but they never did.


At this point, unless the developers themselves come forth and 
specifically declare that they've taken steps to make CCleaner fully 
accessible, I'm not inclined to mess with it again.


Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 11:16 AM, Dave wrote:

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Dave

Who is terraform? Last I knew, the developers of CCleaner were Piriform.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 11:19 AM, Dave wrote:

Mike,

I can't speak for Windows 10, and if that's true, then I suspect CCleaner
will very quickly fix that issue. Have you visited the Terraform web site to
see if there is a free version listed under Windows 10 specifically?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Mike O'Brien" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:15
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Mike,

I can't speak for Windows 10, and if that's true, then I suspect CCleaner 
will very quickly fix that issue. Have you visited the Terraform web site to 
see if there is a free version listed under Windows 10 specifically?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike O'Brien" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:15
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are 
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For 
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level 
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click 
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized 
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then 
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give 
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and 
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me 
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no 
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but 
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant

[zoe fiogkos]

I did that but it wouldn't go away. After many tries I opened processes
manager, I found it there and it said running. I stopped it from running and
tried again to remove it and this time it worked. So thanks to all who tried
to help. Thank God I figured it out.
Regards
Zoe


by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory. My only
hope is that it won't be too late..  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: December 18, 2016 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant

Zoe,
Press windows X and open programs & features. Arrow down locate the Amazon
program, if it's there.
Open content menu enter on remove, then confirm.
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of zoe fiogkos
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 8:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant

I have no idea what it is or how it got on my laptop. It's annoying me
because everytime I boot up my laptop or go to my desktop while using the
laptop I hear jaws say rezzarr resources 104 dll. And the window does
nothing. So someone said to uninstall the program but it won't go away.
Regards
Zoe


by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory. My only
hope is that it won't be too late..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: December 17, 2016 3:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant

Hi Zoe, This is Vicky. I have not heard of Amazon Assistant before this.

In what way is this supposed to help? What about it has annoyed you, to want

to get rid of it?

Thank you very much for helping me to understand it.

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan

-Original Message-
From: zoe fiogkos
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help with removing amazon assistant

Hi guys, I wrote about this a few days ago and I thought the problem was
solved.
I go to control panel.
I click uninstall a program.
It shows me a list of programs.
I find amazon assistant.
I select it and click enter.
A wizard pops up and asks me if I want to change or remove the program.
I hit enter on the remove button.
I get a amazon assistant was successfully removed, finish button.
I click finish button and restart my laptop.
I look in the control panel uninstall program list and it's gone.
A few hours later it's back.
Any ideas how to get rid of this thing perminantly?
Thanks for any help.
Regards
Zoe


by the intersessions of the holy Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Jesus
said when I return will I find the faith, not will I find faith, but the
faith. So many will be shocked when he comes again in all his glory. My only
hope is that it won't be too late..



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the 
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off, 
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my 
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had 
installed and up to date.


By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks 
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial 
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.


Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.  


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/