[JAWS-Users] Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I know this topic has come up from time to time before, but I was hoping for
a refresher.

I’m in need of a VOIP/softphone solution that will work with desktop and
mobile. In my case, iOS.

I as well as other parties need to be able to make and receive calls, place
people on hold, etc.

I don’t want to get a dedicated phone line per say since I would need to
take and review information over the phone. 

I’ve currently got a Skype number that has worked fine for now with one
business of mine, but I have this other endeavor where it would not just be
me who would need to access/be accessible via phone. That and Skype’s
accessibility has been less than inspiring as of late. I’m still on Skype
desktop 7.4 for this purpose. I know there’s also Skype for business, but
from what I’ve read with the experience of others, it too has its issues.

So… can anyone recommend a telephone service/product that can be used in
conjunction from the PC (Jaws user) and an iPhone that meets all of these
requirements? 

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[Cristóbal]

Yes. This new Windows 10 feature still doesn’t' appear to be accessible with 
Jaws. I've also come across some emojis by accident with the alt plus numpad 
sequence when I've meant to type something else. Accented vowel, º, ñ for 
example. ☺ = alt plus #1. ☻ = alt plus #2. ♥ = alt plus #3 and so on. But 
considering that there are tons and tons of emojis and that you can also select 
shade of skin color for the more ethno-centric conscious folks, it's still 
pretty much a no go.
I want to say that Leacy or however you spell it has some sort of emoji 
function if you buy their scripts, but I don't really have a need for leasy 
products and am not jonesing enough to emoji my heart out to pay for that 
specific feature with their script package.
Especially now that it seems to be built in to Windows 10. I would have to 
imagine that it'll soon enough be part of the Jaws core function. This of 
course will probably be touted as some major new Jaws feature eating up one of 
my SMAs instead of addressing long standing bugs though.
You see? A grumpy or angry face emoji would have been perfect at the end of 
that last sentence...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 5:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

From what my sighted friend says, these are pictures--all kinds of things: 
faces, animals, sports stuff, musical instruments--that pop up on the screen 
when you press Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  Something 
to make people smile, I guess, though some of the faces were crying.  Many more 
emoji than on her phone, she said.  Shrug.  Would be nice to have access as 
partially sighted JAWS users do.  Not complaining.  Just sayin'.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hello,
I have my Outlook 2016 email set to HTML format and all I do is type : - ) with 
no spaces to send one of those critters and when I get one JAWS tells me 
"smiling face with smiling eyes."
What else are you talking about?

George A. Martinez, Accountant
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hey.

Yes, that nVDA feature is, I think, a part of Windows 10 App Essentials. I 
haven't played with it. I do use them on my phone (android, not iphone), but 
always feel it's kind of a silly thing to do. Still, especially when talking 
with my landlady, sometimes a simple emoji is best, as she just wants to go on 
and on and on, and I have to indicate I'm listening, somehow. Lol

It is a little odd that JAWS can recognise them but there's no current way to 
select one to input in your messages and such.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 21, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if that's the 
right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the down-arrow key but 
not the left and right arrows, so it would seem that there was no colon and 
closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.  Windows 10 can, they say, bring up 
a list of emoji with Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  But 
if it does, JAWS can't see them, and neither can I!  LOL.  I tried recognizing 
the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and found that there is an 
add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji accessible.  Not having NVDA 
installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had this since we all send 
stuff to sighted friends.  

Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, no iPhone 
yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!  LOL.

Just sayin'

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Issues with Jaws 2018 losing focus in Firefox 60.x

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I’ve asked this question before, but am really noticing it more and more
these past few days. Using the latest Firefox 60.X and Jaws 2018, Jaws focus
seems to be going blank every few seconds. It doesn’t’ matter if I’m
actively navigating the page or if it’s just passively there. Jaws will just
say blank and maybe speak the title of the page I’m on, but there’s no
feedback if I arrow around or use the navigation keys. I can get focus back
easy enough by maximizing the window or pressing tab/shift plus tab or alt
plus tab out of the window, but for one thing, it’s annoying as all get out
and it’s occurring so much now, it’s becoming quite disruptive. This has
more or less been there for a while now, but either I’m really just getting
tired of having to deal with it and am simply noticing it more or it is as I
feel, picking up more in frequency. 

One thing I have noticed is that when I get a sound alert from an incoming
email from Outlook for example, Jaws will lose its focus. To be clear, this
also happens just randomelly as well, but it’s pretty consistent with this
incoming email alert correlation.

Anyone else dealing with this problem?

I emailed VFO a while back and  got the standard “we’re not experiencing
this. It could be your set up.” Response.

I’m dealing with a similar issue in Outlook 2016, but that’s for another
email.

Anyway, please tell me I’m not the only one fighting with these Jaws focus
issues…

Thanks,

Cristobal

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[JAWS-Users] Freedom Scientific partners with Computers for the Blind to give the best computing experience to those who need it - Freedom Scientific Blog

[Cristóbal]

This is pretty cool. For those of us who already have Jaws, probably not a
“big deal”, but still. The more who are able to get access to a quality
screen reader, then better.

And yes, I am aware of NVDA.

I’ve helped a VI low-income friend get a machine from this organization in
the past. They do good work.

Once you get past the initial purchase of Jaws, if you price out the SMAs,
it’s basically a $5.00 monthly subscription anyway. 

http://blog.freedomscientific.com/cftb/ 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

[Cristóbal]

Credit Carma is the site I use. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 6:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

Jerald,
I actually signed up with them, but I think they only check Experian?
Thanks


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit


Check out this free credit score site from Discover card.  You do not need
to be a Discover cardholder to use it:

https://www.discover.com/free-credit-score/


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

Hi,

Does anyone here know of a site where I can monitor my credit score that is
jaws accessible? I don't care paid or free, but if I pay, I would want it to
be jaws accessible.

Thanks.





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[JAWS-Users] Firefox 60.0.1 tracking shield alert and Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

With Firefox 60.0.1, I keep getting the pasted alert below. I don’t seem to
be able to access/interact with it or otherwise dismiss it. I know if has to
do with the new privacy features in Firefox which is fine, but I’d like to
be able to disable this alert, find out where this shield is that it keeps
talking about and also be able to see what this whole 1 of 3 “next” part is.

Does anyone know how to access this particular notification/alert with Jaws?
Tabbing with F6 to the address bars and whatnot doesn’t’ seem to work. Nor
does poking around with the Jaws cursor. 

Alert!
How Tracking Protection works
Close
When you see the shield, Firefox is blocking some parts of the page that
could track your browsing activity.
1 of 3
Next



 

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[JAWS-Users] Question on Firefox 60.0.1 settings

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I was poking around Firefox after reupgrading to V 60.0.1 and going through
the various settings to make sure everything is how I want it and came
across the below:

 Use hardware acceleration when available Alt+Shift+r

 Use autoscrolling Alt+Shift+a

 Use smooth scrolling Alt+Shift+m

So, since I rarely ever deal with these particular settings, I forgot what
is advised. Whether to check or uncheck these three options? On the latest
Jaws 2018 May update and it is much better than the first go around with
Firefox 60. 

Can anyone give me a refresher and what these three settings actually do?

Thanks,

Cristóbal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key

[Cristóbal]

Not that I know of, but honestly, it's not like it's that bit a deal. I just
go through the install and reboot and go into Jaws properties tab down,
re-do the hotkey and presto. It takes like what? 10 seconds if that. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geoff Connor
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Hot Key

Hello.

I have a question about Jaws and setting up a hot key. Is there a way I can
set up a Jaws hot key and not lose it every time Jaws updates to a new
version? NVDA for example never loses its hotkey. Jaws should be the same.

 

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[JAWS-Users] New NoScript add-on layout with Firefox 60

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So, I’ve been playing with Firefox 60 and the latest JFW 2018put out this
month. And I’m noticing that with the NoScript extension, now instead of the
various options to disable or enable the different scripts and whatnot on
pages, NoScript now presents you with a webpage with checkboxes instead of
the context menu where you can arrow into the submenu with the different
listed scripts.

I’m finding the new layout to be more tedious and not as easy to get around
and was wondering if there was a way to get the old context submenu layout
back or if this is how it is now? I poked around in the NoScript options and
didn’t find anything that jumped out to get the old layout back.

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and eloquence switching languages

[Cristóbal]

Uncheck the language detect option in the Jaws settings. Don’t' recall the 
exact wording, but search for language and it'll come up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 5:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and eloquence switching languages

Hi
On my bank’s website, sometimes eloquence switches to Spanish even though the 
whole site is in English. How do I turn off eloquence and jaws switching to 
other languages automatically? 

Josh


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[JAWS-Users] Accessible Instapaper alternative

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone can recommend any screen reader accessible
Instapaper alternatives?

I in general like Instapaper and have used it for a while now, but there are
some accessibility issues on the website that have never gotten fixed and I
think I’m at the point where I want to try something else.

It’s too bad as the iOS app is very accessible and having a nice
cross-plaftform service where one can save and sort articles and whatnot for
later reading/researching is a bigtime help. I know there’s Pocket, but I
don’t know if I want to pay $50 a year to go add free and whatever other
perks they offer.

So… if there’s something that replicates what Instapaper or Pocket can do
and is accessible, I’d appreciate the input. Ideally, an iOS app too.

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

Again, setting view to imap does this for me. Exchange shows this
automatically  too. If you're pop3, well... if changing to imap isn't an
option, then I don't know.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gary Lee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and
outlook 2016

client is outlook 2016.

as for insert-tab, not quite a real substitute as it doesn't read the actual
status line giving total messages / unread and dconnection information.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
outlook 2016


> Hi Gary,
> Share with us which e-mail client you are using.
>
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Lee" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 8:48 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
> outlook
> 2016
>
>
> just upgraded to latest jaws 2018.
>
> now insert-pgdn which used to read status line at bottom of inbox screen 
> now
> reads the "search inbox" line at the top of the screen.
> Like it is in another window, and can't be moved.
> tried unrestricting the jaws cursor, then doing a jaws to pc, no joy.
>
> any ideas would be helpful.
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

[Cristóbal]

If you're in Windows 10, Windows key plus I, go to Apps and the default
Apps. Press enter or spacebar on that to select it then tab down the the web
browser option and pick Firefox.
If not Windows 10, then I don't remember anymore.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

I'm frustrated enough with all browsers that I'm willing to see if Chrome
might work best as the default. I thought I'd clicked on the "default"
option in the menus, but it didn't take. Can someone give exact
instructions? Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

[Cristóbal]

I actually looked up something similar regarding how to put a webpage link
on the windows taskbar with Firefox. From what I remember, it was somewhat
straight forward with Chrome, but Firefox required some additional steps and
command prompt this and tweek that. This is with Windows 10 by the way.
Anyway, I got busy with other stuff and sort of left that task linger and I
almost forgot that I wanted to do that until I came across this thread. So
yeah, Anyone got any ideas?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

After all that, I realize I answered a question different from the one
you're asking. No doubt there's an answer to the question you did ask.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:31 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

Hi, Mike.

I also have Windows 7. This should work. 

Press the Windows key and arrow up once to "all Programs."
Press enter, then when a list appears press the up arrow key once.
Then press f until Firefox appears.
On hearing Firefox verbalized, press the applications key. 
Arrow up to "send to submenu," press enter again. 
Then press the down arrow key until you hear "Desktop" and press enter yet
again.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:15 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Firefox ESR 52.8, & J16 thru J2018.  When you want to
create a desktop shortcut from a website you visit regularly, how in the
heck do you do it?!  In IE11 you can get create desktop shortcut options in
the context menu, or from the file menu, but with Firefox I can't find
anywhere in the context or file menu that will allow me to create a desktop
shortcut while on the website.  So again, how is this done?  All help will
be a great hair saver, and immensely appreciated!  LOL  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
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Re: [JAWS-Users] secondary language and voice

[Cristóbal]

If you want a quicky tempearary language switch, control plus windows key plus 
L then select the language of choice. If you alt tab out of that window, you'll 
go back to your default voice settings.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] secondary language and voice

Hi Holger,

At least from JAWS UI, in a given voice profile you can only set speed and 
punctuation on a per-language basis.
As an alternative, you may create a new voice profile whose primary language is 
Spanish and switch to it with CTRL+JAWS+S. However, this has the disadvantage 
of language detection feature not working automatically.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Holger Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 7:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] secondary language and voice

Using W10 and jaws 2018. How do I select a voice when I am reading web in 
Spanish. Primary Language is English but sometimes I read web in Spanish. I 
hear the voice that jaws selected but can I change it without affecting my 
English settings? 

Holger Fiallo




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Cristóbal]

I still had a 52.X ESR installer on my system. SO I just uninstalled V60,
ran the 52.X installer and updated to the most current one capable with the
older version and am now am on Firefox Version 52.8.0. The same one I was on
before trying the Quantum or whatever it's called.
The other issue I was having with Firefox 60 and Jaws on The Old Reader: 
This is what I sent VFO:
I am noticing with the latest Firefox 60 (ESR and standard version) when
browsing down my list of RSS posts. Be it in a particular feed’s entries, a
folder created by me or even in the all posts view, when I click enter or
press the spacebar to expand that particular entry to show the summary (this
is in list view. Not full view) and then later wish to do the same for
another RSS entry, Jaws doesn’t appear to be able to accomplish this second
task.
I’ve tried using the Jaws cursor, maximizing the window and then pressing
enter or spacebar, tabbing to be sure Jaws focus isn’t somewhere else, but
nothing seems to work. It’s basically pick one RSS entry and that’s it. The
only thing I can do to be able to select another RSS entry to view is do an
entire page refresh. Which isn’t a solution as once the refresh occurs, all
previously unread posts are marked as read.
In my case, The Older Reader is marked as my home page and I refer to it all
the time. So this one bug is proving to be quite disruptive. I don’t know if
it has something to do with a virtual buffer focus or some other element,
but I am not able to figure it out on my end. To be clear, this particular
behavior is not present in prior versions of Firefox. I have been using the
V 52.x ESR version before upgrading to v60 without this issue present.
So anyway, in the same email response I pasted below, I got this note from
the same tech:
Also, I did see your other e-mail in which you mentioned a specific Web
site.  I did look at that Web site, but I found that it requires signing up
for an account to see the issues.  If you could provide us with a site with
these issues that does not require signing up for an account, that would be
very helpful.

Ok... but as I specifically mentioned this website, it kind of defeats the
purpose...
Again, probably one of those things I'd have to call in to better
demonstrate the exact problem, but I'm busy throughout the day and always on
the phone, doubt I'd be able to do it any time soon.
This is why I figured in part to just go back to V 52 and maybe wait for
another Jaws or Firefox release with hopefully some more improvements. I've
waited a few months, what's a couple of more weeks...
As long as you don't mess with your profile on your system, then
uninstalling and reinstalling any version of Firefox shouldn't be a big
deal. That said, standard caveats of backing up and all that apply. Also, I
do have a Firefox account for easier browser syncing between multiple PCs
and my iPhone so there's that too.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

How did you revert to 52ESR? By uninstalling 60 and reinstalling 52ESR? I'm
hoping it was something else. I'd love to get 52ESR back with my settings
intact. meanwhile, I urge everyone else having problems with Firefox 60 to
contact VFO because otherwise they'll stall, the way they still stall on
making crucial 2018 fixes. But be sure you're using the current release of
2018 when you report Firefox 60 problems. Apparently, this release is
required for compatibility.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as
if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per
say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech
silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've
been having with Jaws just randomly losing focus on any site and me having
to maximize the window or tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the
time made the user experience a frustrating one. 
The response I got back was: 
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried Firefox 60
with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not really found the
issues you mention.  At times, I have found that sometimes, when a Web site
is still loading, it might get sluggish, but if you give it a minute or 2,
you can navigate just fine.  I just spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a
very resource-intensive Web site and was actually very impressed with
performance.  Therefore, I am not sure this is a general issue but one that
might be specific to your machin

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Cristóbal]

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as
if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per
say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech
silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've
been having with Jaws just randomly losing focus on any site and me having
to maximize the window or tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the
time made the user experience a frustrating one. 
The response I got back was: 
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried Firefox 60
with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not really found the
issues you mention.  At times, I have found that sometimes, when a Web site
is still loading, it might get sluggish, but if you give it a minute or 2,
you can navigate just fine.  I just spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a
very resource-intensive Web site and was actually very impressed with
performance.  Therefore, I am not sure this is a general issue but one that
might be specific to your machine.

So, aside from me not waiting around a minute or two for every single
webpage to load when I didn't have to before, looks like I'm going to have
to call tech support so I can demonstrate for them these odd speech pauses
and whatnot. Don't know if I'll be able to do so anytime soon as I work
during the day, but anyway. I've gone back to V 52.X in the meantime.
Regarding the alerts, I was able to disable those with an about:config tweek
a while back. I'll have to dig around for it again. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I'm experiencing several problems with Firefox 60. Here's a copy of the
email I just sent VFO explaining what they are. I did mention in the message
that I recently upgraded from Firefox 52ESR to 60.


  1.  When I try to log in to a website, Firefox's message offering to save
the log-in information is spoken, and then spoken several more times. I
caught that to decline, I should press alt-d. when I did so, Firefox hung up
and eventually gave me the options to wait or close. After what was already
a long wait, I closed it.

I've encountered this message several times since. Pressing alt-d led to the
same result, as did my try with alt-n (which often brings up other options).
The only way to get past this message is to wait for it to go away.


  1.  On the donations page of the website
www.wnyc.org, the combo boxes for state and country
don't give any information, e.g., state abbreviations. These combo boxes do
work with IE11. A similar problem came up on another website with Firefox
60, but I can't be sure I've diagnosed the problem yet.


  1.  Placemarkers are behaving erratically. None carried over from Firefox
52ESR, so I've had to start over again putting them in place. One repeating
problem is that even though I uncheck the box that would apply the
placemarker throughout a website, the placemarkers all apply on every page.
This means I've accumulated twelve placemarkers on every page of one website
I regularly visit, even though I want at most three per page.


  1.  I'm also finding that some placemarkers just don't work when I press
the k key. Even though the placemarker list shows one for that location, k
doesn't locate it.

I'm working with JAWS 2018.1804.26.400,, and my OS is Windows 7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] re firerofx 60esr

[Cristóbal]

So for full disclosure, I got my The Old reader issues I mentioned sorted
out. 
Turns out, the problem was No Script disabling javascript which was
basically breaking the internet for me. Once I disabled NoScript, That
particular page and others I was dealing with were fine. I guess I have to
go into No Script to play around with the settings a bit more. 
I did for whatever reason have a  whole bunch of problems trying to get the
1Password extension properly installed and activated, but I eventually got
it to work too.
I suppose speed is fine, but more importantly, the browser just seems to
work now. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of gary-melconian
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 6:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] re firerofx 60esr

Hello just installed firefox 60 ESR.its pretty snappy at what it can do
wwith JAWS 2018.thanks to VFO jaws 2018 and firefox 60 are now coping happly
together.  

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[JAWS-Users] Firefox 60 is out

[Cristóbal]

Somewhat surprised this hasn’t’ hit the list yet, but anyway… Firefox 60 is
finally out. Both regular and ESr. 

So far with the latest Jaws, it seems to be working ok for me. Using the ESR
version in my case. 

One frustrating thing though, my homepage which is the all posts page of The
Old Reader (www.theoldreader.com  ) is acting
kind of funky.

My list of RSS subs isn’t showing up. Nor are the title subscriptions for
each post. Since this is my home page and I refer to it all the time to
check the news throughout the day, it may be disruptive enough for me at
least that I may go back to the ESR 52.X for now. By any chance is anyone
else who is a user of The Old Reader dealing with this particular issue?

Otherwise, no other problems that I’ve come across yet. I am noticing that I
need to screen refresh and or tab a lot more to get JFW to react or speak,
but I think I started to notice that even in the V 52.0.8 or whatever the
last version of ESR before V 60. 

Anyway, for those who’ve been itching to give Firefox 60 a spin, knock
yourselves out.

 

Cristobal

 

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws recently crashing with Chicken Nugget

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So recently, I’ve been encountering an issue with the Chicken Nugget twitter
client (portable version) and Jaws. Starting on Friday, as I’m down arrowing
through the timeline of tweets, Jaws will just crash on me. Sometimes, I can
bring Jaws back with the insert plus alt plus W command, but often, I have
to resort to launching NVDA and killing the lingering Jaws processes in the
task manager to then be able to bring Jaws back. 

As mentioned above, this is with the portable Chicken Nugget installer that
I’ve been already running for a while. My Jaws is current and while this
random crashing hadn’t occurred with earlier versions of Jaws, this issue
only started popping up last week. I’ve been running the latest JFW update
shortly after it was put out in the middle of April.

I reached out to the CN dev (Accessible Apps) and he confirmed what I
figured, that there was nothing on the app’s end that has changed to
suddenly caused this. 

Are any other Jaws users dealing with anything similar when in CN?

Thanks,

Cristobal

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

[Cristóbal]

No, but Firefox V 60 should be coming out this month. It's supposed to work
with the latest Jaws. You could in the meantime do what a lot of others have
done and has been recommended by VFO and use the ESR version to keep up on
security updates.
I’m currently running Firefox ESR Version 52.7.4 that I just updated this
morning after I checked for an update.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don Raikes
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

Hi,

 

Is there any version of jaws that works with the new firefox quantum?

 

I am interested in upgrading firefox to obtain any security updates, but I
remember hearing that there are problems with firefox quantum and jaws,
buthaven't heard if the issues have been fixed.

 

Any info would be appreciated.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2016 protected mode

[Cristóbal]

You can also go into the trust settings to disable this outright. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2016 protected mode

Miriam,
Word & Excel documents will always arrive in protected mode as an attachment
to an email.  If you have used this file before & is now showing as
protected then that is another of those great cosmic mysteries about
computers as to what caused it.
At any rate, ALT- F, + I + E will remove the protection.

> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On 
> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:11 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] word 2016 protected mode
> 
> I have Windows 7, IE 11 on a 64 bit computer. I just opened an 
> existing
word
> document that I want to alter. Jaws says I'm in protected view mode. I 
> can read the document, but I can't write anything. Windows offered to 
> send an error message to Microsoft and I accepted the offer. I guess 
> I'll now
reboot
> the computer and hope the problem is solved. But if not, can someone 
> please explain in detail for this elderly unsavvy tech person, what to 
> do?
> 
> Miriam
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Cristóbal]

You can also download an add-on. I have one instaled called Just Read that can 
be toggled with the control plus shift plus L command. You can do some other 
stuff with it, but I only bother with reader mode. 
This is for Chrome as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Brian Lee
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hello Adrian,

You might want to try pressing Alt V followed by R.  This should turn on and 
off the reader view.  I have a CTRL Alt R shortcut key assigned to a Remote 
Incident Manager program and so when in Firefox I just use the view menu.  

For anyone interested in getting reader view to work in Chrome, it works quite 
well but needs some setting up.  Here are some steps to follow for anyone 
wanting to use the reader view feature in Chrome:

1.  Locate your shortcut for opening Chrome, whether it's on your taskbar, 
desktop or within the Start menu. Right-click it or use the application key and 
open Properties from the contextual menu.
2.  Tab until focus is in the Target edit box.   the file path for the 
Chrome application is shown in this field.  
3.  Add a space after the path text and then the following:
--enable-dom-distiller
4.  Tab to the Apply button and use spacebar or click Apply with the mouse.
5.  Close down all instances of Chrome. Icons in the system tray such as 
Hangouts or Google Now will need to be closed.
6.  Test out the Distill mode by opening Chrome from the shortcut you 
edited.  Go to a page containing an article.  Use the Alt key and up or down 
arrow to the “Distill page” menu item and press enter key.  If using the mouse 
click the icon with three lines in the top right-hand corner and choose Distill 
page.

To go out of Distill mode you can use Alt with left arrow key.  This will load 
the page again in the usual manner.

Take care.


  

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: April 11, 2018 2:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Thanks. I followed your suggestion, but reader view is still not working for 
me. control-alt-r does cause JAWS to pause, after which it sometimes resumes 
reading, sometimes not. But when it resumes, it reads the ads, etc. I hate to 
clutter the list with this problem. 

Thanks also to Mike B for the notes on the reader view extension.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Even after invoking reader mode, you still have to navigate to the actual 
article. Heading, next block of text that isn't a link, etc. You're not going 
to be placed at the start of the article or whatever it is you're trying to 
read.
I just finished reading an article in the New York Times in reader mode and 
it's working fine for me.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Jim, I also have a subscription to the New York times. Like you, I press 
alt-control-r. Then I press the JAWS command for "say all." Nothing happens. 
Any hints?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

I have no problem using reader to read New York Times, Washington Post and 
Financial Times articles.  Maybe that's because I maintain a subscription to 
each of them.  All 3 have varieties of pay walls.

By the way , I access reader with alt/control/r.  Alt/control/f does not 
activate for me.  As I recall, the short cut key alt/control/r is listed next 
to the reader view option in the Firefox top line menu.

On 4/11/2018 1:28 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Don't know what to tell you. I use it all the time when reading articles in 
> the New York Times.
> Control plus alt plus R is probably my most used Firefox command. I use 
> flexible web a lot less because of this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:25 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>
> The New York Times comes to mind right away as a publication where reading 
> view doesn't work, and I do have the full articles open. I'll try diff

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Cristóbal]

Weird. Do you by any chance have another machine you can try it on? Don’t' 
recall any more since it's been a while, but I don't remember having to install 
anything else per say. Reader mode is to the best of my knowledge built into 
Firefox at this point.
Perhaps tried with a separate portable version of Firefox?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 2:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Thanks. I followed your suggestion, but reader view is still not working for 
me. control-alt-r does cause JAWS to pause, after which it sometimes resumes 
reading, sometimes not. But when it resumes, it reads the ads, etc. I hate to 
clutter the list with this problem. 

Thanks also to Mike B for the notes on the reader view extension.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Even after invoking reader mode, you still have to navigate to the actual 
article. Heading, next block of text that isn't a link, etc. You're not going 
to be placed at the start of the article or whatever it is you're trying to 
read.
I just finished reading an article in the New York Times in reader mode and 
it's working fine for me.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Jim, I also have a subscription to the New York times. Like you, I press 
alt-control-r. Then I press the JAWS command for "say all." Nothing happens. 
Any hints?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

I have no problem using reader to read New York Times, Washington Post and 
Financial Times articles.  Maybe that's because I maintain a subscription to 
each of them.  All 3 have varieties of pay walls.

By the way , I access reader with alt/control/r.  Alt/control/f does not 
activate for me.  As I recall, the short cut key alt/control/r is listed next 
to the reader view option in the Firefox top line menu.

On 4/11/2018 1:28 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Don't know what to tell you. I use it all the time when reading articles in 
> the New York Times.
> Control plus alt plus R is probably my most used Firefox command. I use 
> flexible web a lot less because of this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:25 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>
> The New York Times comes to mind right away as a publication where reading 
> view doesn't work, and I do have the full articles open. I'll try different 
> websites as I encounter them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On 
> Behalf Of Jim Pursley
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>
> It does seem strange to me taht the reader sometimesfails to read an article 
> for me, though I can download the text and read it in the published format.  
> The Economist is the only publisher I've encountered which reader does not 
> read.  Adrian, what are some publications which don't format in reader for 
> you?  Maybe there is a common thread, like a hard pay wall.  For sure, reader 
> does not read truncated articles (continued,read more, etc.) for the most 
> part. It usually in my experience requires a full article for it to open.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>>
>> Reader view will work on almost any article.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>>
>> Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key 
>> combo control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. How

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Cristóbal]

Even after invoking reader mode, you still have to navigate to the actual 
article. Heading, next block of text that isn't a link, etc. You're not going 
to be placed at the start of the article or whatever it is you're trying to 
read.
I just finished reading an article in the New York Times in reader mode and 
it's working fine for me.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Jim, I also have a subscription to the New York times. Like you, I press 
alt-control-r. Then I press the JAWS command for "say all." Nothing happens. 
Any hints?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

I have no problem using reader to read New York Times, Washington Post and 
Financial Times articles.  Maybe that's because I maintain a subscription to 
each of them.  All 3 have varieties of pay walls.

By the way , I access reader with alt/control/r.  Alt/control/f does not 
activate for me.  As I recall, the short cut key alt/control/r is listed next 
to the reader view option in the Firefox top line menu.

On 4/11/2018 1:28 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Don't know what to tell you. I use it all the time when reading articles in 
> the New York Times.
> Control plus alt plus R is probably my most used Firefox command. I use 
> flexible web a lot less because of this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:25 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>
> The New York Times comes to mind right away as a publication where reading 
> view doesn't work, and I do have the full articles open. I'll try different 
> websites as I encounter them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On 
> Behalf Of Jim Pursley
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>
> It does seem strange to me taht the reader sometimesfails to read an article 
> for me, though I can download the text and read it in the published format.  
> The Economist is the only publisher I've encountered which reader does not 
> read.  Adrian, what are some publications which don't format in reader for 
> you?  Maybe there is a common thread, like a hard pay wall.  For sure, reader 
> does not read truncated articles (continued,read more, etc.) for the most 
> part. It usually in my experience requires a full article for it to open.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>>
>> Reader view will work on almost any article.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>>
>> Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key 
>> combo control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't 
>> find my notes on that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked 
>> online, but the instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an 
>> alternative key sequence of alt, v, r, but this doesn’t work either.
>>
>> Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a 
>> link to a page where it works?
>>
>> Here's the webpage of instructions that I found:
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free
>> -
>> web-pages
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On 
>> Behalf Of Jim Pursley
>> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox
>>
>> I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many 
>> of the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity 
>> Institutional site does not work at all with the curren

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Cristóbal]

Don't know what to tell you. I use it all the time when reading articles in the 
New York Times.
Control plus alt plus R is probably my most used Firefox command. I use 
flexible web a lot less because of this. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

The New York Times comes to mind right away as a publication where reading view 
doesn't work, and I do have the full articles open. I'll try different websites 
as I encounter them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

It does seem strange to me taht the reader sometimesfails to read an article 
for me, though I can download the text and read it in the published format.  
The Economist is the only publisher I've encountered which reader does not 
read.  Adrian, what are some publications which don't format in reader for you? 
 Maybe there is a common thread, like a hard pay wall.  For sure, reader does 
not read truncated articles (continued,read more, etc.) for the most part. It 
usually in my experience requires a full article for it to open.
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On 
> Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>
> Reader view will work on almost any article.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view
>
> Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key combo 
> control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't find my 
> notes on that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked online, 
> but the instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an alternative 
> key sequence of alt, v, r, but this doesn’t work either.
>
> Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a 
> link to a page where it works?
>
> Here's the webpage of instructions that I found: 
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-
> web-pages
>
>
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> Behalf Of Jim Pursley
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox
>
> I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many of 
> the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity 
> Institutional site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox 
> version. I have Firefox as my default browser, mainly because I really like 
> the alt/control/R function reader, which strips out extraneous information 
> and often noxious audio inserts from articles I want to read.
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

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Nope. Currently on Firefox ESR Version 52.7.2. 64 bit on my laptop and 32 bit 
on my desktop and reader mode works as it should. 


-Original Message-
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Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

It doesn't work for me either, and although I could be wrong, I *think* this is 
because we are both using Firefox 52/ESR. The reader view was a feature 
introduced later; I'm not sure which version. I assume it works well with the 
new Quantum ones, but so far, if you want to use JAWS with those, I guess you 
are still out of luck, and versions between 52 and 57 are not supported by 
Mozilla. 

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: April 11, 2018 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Not on the articles I've been reading with Firefox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Reader view will work on almost any article.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key combo 
control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't find my 
notes on that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked online, but 
the instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an alternative key 
sequence of alt, v, r, but this doesn’t work either. 

Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a link 
to a page where it works? 

Here's the webpage of instructions that I found: 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many of 
the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity Institutional 
site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox version. I have Firefox 
as my default browser, mainly because I really like the alt/control/R function 
reader, which strips out extraneous information and often noxious audio inserts 
from articles I want to read.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Cristóbal]

Doesn't work on CNN for me, but pretty much everywhere else yes.

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Not on the articles I've been reading with Firefox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Reader view will work on almost any article.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key combo 
control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't find my 
notes on that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked online, but 
the instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an alternative key 
sequence of alt, v, r, but this doesn’t work either. 

Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a link 
to a page where it works? 

Here's the webpage of instructions that I found: 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many of 
the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity Institutional 
site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox version. I have Firefox 
as my default browser, mainly because I really like the alt/control/R function 
reader, which strips out extraneous information and often noxious audio inserts 
from articles I want to read.

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[JAWS-Users] Stand alone Jaws accessible program on Windows 10 with Google Calendar integration?

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

As the subject line states, I’m looking for a stand alone Jaws accessible
calendar with Google calendar integration. I do use Outlook and the outlook
calendar and while with some tinkering, you can import  a Google calendar
into the Outlook calendar, you can’t do anything from within Outlook but
view appointments. I took a quick look at the built-in Windows 10 calendar
and wasn’t terribly convinced.

Anyone know of something that may work? That or can the built-in Windows 10
calendar app actually do this? 

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

 

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[JAWS-Users] Odd behavior with latest JFW update

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Ever since updating to the latest JFW March update, I’m noticing an odd
behavior on webpages while in Firefox 52 ESR. Jaws will sometimes hang and
appear to refresh placing me back towards the top and if I try to jump back
and forth with the control plus up or down arrow for example to get speech
back, I’ll end up in a different tab.

Anyone else dealing with this?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS / VFO & Getting Updated From Older Versions ToThe Latest

[Cristóbal]

As there are VFO folks on these lists, You wonder if they don't go about 
reverse engineering this sale to figure out who was the rep that messed up if 
in fact it was a mistake as it appears to be. I'm sure they've got to have some 
sort of self-auditing type of system in place in general.
That's probably what I would do if for nothing else to figure out who needs a 
bit more training or to be taken off of sales.

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Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS / VFO & Getting Updated From Older Versions 
ToThe Latest

Hi Mark,
I've got a receipt that says differently!  If someone screwed up, that I don't 
know, but I received exactly the deal as stated in my origianal post to upgrade 
an old friend.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
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From: Mark
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS / VFO & Getting Updated From Older Versions 
ToThe Latest


this is not correct i just spoke to jeff at fredom and that 200 is not even 
close to the correct price i was told 550.00 and 200.00 for the sma
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From: "Jo" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS / VFO & Getting Updated From Older Versions 
ToThe Latest


> That’s amazing.  Makes me wonder why I bother to pay £125 a year when if I
> left it a few years I could just pay £200
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Mike B.
> Sent: 19 March 2018 04:26
> To: Jaws-Users List
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS / VFO & Getting Updated From Older Versions
> ToThe Latest
>
> Hi All,
>
> The other day I called VFO / Freedom Scientific to see if they had any new
> financial plans for people that had gotten way behind because of financial
> difficulties, & wanted to get upgraded / updated to the latest version.
> Well, to my surprise what I found out was absolutely fantastic!  A friend
> needed to be updated because he was at Jaws 11 & he needed to be upgraded
> to
> be compatible with the Windows 7 system he is moving to from XP.  Okay to
> cut this short, I found out people can be upgraded from Jaws 11 to
> Jaws2018
> for $200.00.  The lady I talked to was a Window Eyes transplanted employee
> &
> she didn't know how long this financial plan had been in place.  So for
> all
> you that need to be upgraded but have financial difficulty, don't be
> afraid
> to call & inquire about new financial / payment plans!  This $200.00 plan
> is
> only for the Home versions.
> Sales Phone#: 1-800-444-4443
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Two unsolved 2018 problems: Outlook 2016 email readability and webpage stability

[Cristóbal]

I wrote about the tables issue as well with JFW 18 and 2018. Jaws either
gets sluggish, pauses for a few seconds or crashes all together when
arrowing around the tables.
It's to the point where I simply unload Jaws and use NVDA in those emails.
VFO said they couldn't reproduce my problem 

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Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Two unsolved 2018 problems: Outlook 2016 email
readability and webpage stability

I've written and called VFO tech assistance about both these items. One is
that JAWS 2018 cannot handle complex emails in Outlook 2016. By "complex," I
mean ones that contain tables or are just very long. My workarounds are to
reopen the message in IE11 or unload 2018 and load either 17 or 18.

The other unfixed problem is that JAWS 2018 cannot maintain its location on
numerous webpages. When I switch away from a webpage and then return to it,
focus has wandered off somewhere else. this is true in both IE11 and
Firefox.

When I contacted VFO, I was told to change numerous settings. An obvious one
was making sure "smart navigation" is turned off, which it is. For email, I
also disabled the relevant table settings in JAWS quick settings. Other
settings changes the VFO rep strongly recommended were ones I want to keep
as they are. Besides, JAWS 17 and 18 read these messages fine without all
this meddling.

JAWS 2018 has some advantages. For example, I like the automatic OCR option
when a PDF file is determined to be "blank." Also, JAWS 18 sometimes detects
edit fields that JAWS 18 doesn't. As a result, I'm constantly switching
between versions. Not only is this distracting and time-consuming, it also
means that changes I make, such as to the JAWS dictionary, don't carry over.

If any other JAWS users are encountering either or both of these problems,
please alert VFO. Maybe they'll take them seriously if they receive a number
of complaints.

Oh, by the way, a predictable thing happened when I called. Every email
message I tried to use as a demonstration read fine. I also couldn't find a
webpage where JAWS lost its place. But I'm not imagining things.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] turning off sounds in word, outlook etc.

[Cristóbal]

No. In Outlook at least, you have to go to options, ease of access and if
you want sounds disabled all together for the program, uncheck the first box
when you tab down. Otherwise if you tab after that, there are a couple of
sound schemes that you can pick from. 
I for whatever reason started to get the annoying arcade game sounds when
deleting an email and other cartoonish affects that started to annoy me
since I deal with Outlook all day for business.
The control panel thing didn't work for me and the Microsoft accessibility
guy on the phone then suggested we do a Windows repair which I wasn't ready
to do. I poked around some more and came across this setting.
Outlook has been blissfully quiet ever since.
This is for Outlook 2016 to be clear.
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turning off sounds in word, outlook etc.

Hi Kimsan,

Go to the Control Panel, Sounds Link, press enter, control + tab to the
Sounds Page, tab to the Tree View, & go down to Microsoft Office to find the
sound you're looking for.


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:26 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turning off sounds in word, outlook etc.


Hi,

I'm using office 2016, windows 10 pro and jaws 18.



Every time I delete text it makes a sound, I thought to turn that off it was
in the word options under advance. However, I just came from there and I do
not see it.

There are other sounds being made depending on the action, but I just used
the delete for an example of what I'd like to do.

These sounds occur in any office application, not one specific. I mentioned
word earlier, since that is where I found it, to turn it off that is.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[Cristóbal]

I've had this problem in prior Jaws versions when working in a Word or Outlook 
email. Either replying or typing a new message. A simple Arrow down would do 
nothing, but a controlplus arrow down or the same laptop command worked. It 
used to be bad around a year or so ago. So far though, in the limited time I've 
had to work with today's update, I havent' encountered that problem. 
Currently on Microsoft Outlook Version 16.0.8431.2079 if that helps.

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Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like say 
line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has been a 
long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to the 
previous build until things get straightened out.

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From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason.

I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Update, J2018.1803.24, Download Links + What's new

[Cristóbal]

Working smoothly so far. Thank God that text analyzer bug got fixed. It was
annoying as all get out.
A question regarding the new feature: • If you use multiple desktops, JAWS
now indicates the currently active desktop when CTRL+WINDOWS+LEFT ARROW or
CTRL+WINDOWS+RIGHT ARROW is pressed to
I’m sure that some folks may find this announcement useful, but man, am I
finding it to be just a tad bit chatty and really superfluous. I work
between desktops all day and after the 61654357351th time of zipping back
and forth, I really could do without this announcement every time. 
Anyone know how or if this particular announcement can be disabled?

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:29 AM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Build Update, J2018.1803.24, Download Links +
What's new

Hi All,

Here y'all go:

32 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/2018180324LK9903/J2018.1803
.24enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/2018180324LK9903/J2018.1803
.24enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1803.24 (March 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
February 2018 update and the March 2018 update.

JAWS
list of 11 items
. JAWS will now unmute your sound card automatically. In addition to
refreshing the screen, pressing INSERT+ESC now also checks the sound device
being used by JAWS or Fusion to make sure it is not currently muted or has
the sound level set to 0 percent. If muted, it will be unmuted. Or, if the
sound level somehow got set to 0 percent, this new feature will raise it to
50 percent, allowing you to recover without getting assistance. The sound
device is also checked every time JAWS or Fusion is restarted. If you
purposely muted JAWS speech, there is not an issue as this new feature only
looks at the Windows setting for the sound card, not the JAWS speech
settings.
. This update includes drivers for the Orbit Reader 20 braille display from
APH. Once the March 2018 update or later is installed, your Orbit Reader 20
will work with JAWS or Fusion 2018 without the need to download a separate
driver installation file.
. We've added a new layered command to toggle the Screen Shade on or off. 
Since some computers do not offer a PRINTSCREEN key, you can now press 
INSERT+SPACEBAR,
F11 as an alternative to INSERT+SPACEBAR, PRINTSCREEN to toggle the Screen
Shade feature.
. The Commands Search along with the layered keystroke to launch it
(INSERT+SPACEBAR, J) is now at the top of the JAWS Help menu to make it
easier for users to locate this feature. The Search for Commands item has
been removed from the JAWS Utilities menu.
. Resolved an issue with the Bookshare Book Search Research It lookup source
not displaying a list of books as expected.
. When selecting files from a list view in File Explorer, resolved an issue
where JAWS would not announce names of files if the list extended past the
visible window.
. Resolved an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly restart when pressing 
ALT+WINDOWS+I to move to the next inconsistency in a document.
. When using JAWS over a Remote Desktop or Citrix connection with a braille
display connected, resolved an issue where JAWS on the remote system would
sometimes close unexpectedly.
. Added a new Dictionary entry to correct the pronunciation of Aira. It will
now be pronounced: "EyeRah".
. JAWS now uses the Liblouis braille translator for French braille. Note
that French Grade 1 and French Grade 2 currently only supports output. If
you want to be able to both display and type braille in Grade 1 or Grade 2,
you should choose Unified French.
. JAWS now includes a Finnish language braille table which can be selected
in the Computer Braille Tables dialog box in Settings Center.
list end

Amazon Kindle for PC
list of 1 items
. You can now select text in a Kindle book by character, word, line, and
paragraph. Once you select the text and press CTRL+C to copy, the Kindle app
opens a selection toolbar where you can copy the selected text, highlight
the text, lookup the text on the Internet, add a note, and more.
list end

Microsoft Office
list of 5 items
. Addressed issues with JAWS not working correctly with the Spellchecker in
the latest updates to Office 365.
. When navigating in the Outlook auto complete list that displays when
typing in the header fields of a new message, resolved an issue where JAWS
was announcing the previous item instead of the currently selected one.
. When spell checking a Word document and you are focused in the Original
Sentence field, pressing ENTER now accepts the first suggestion.
. Addressed reported issues with using Braille Line Mode in Office 2010 on
Windows 7.
. In response to customer feedback, improved the error message that is
spoken when INSERT+C to read the word in context is pressed and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

[Cristóbal]

This sounds like the Webvisum add-on. I recalled going in and disabling some 
settings as I only used it for the capcia stuff and didn't need the other 
accessibility features. It may also depend on any other extensions you also 
have running. NoScript can be pretty clicky too for example.

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Fairhurst
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 8:42 PM
To: List Jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

When Fire Fox starts, it keeps making an annoying clicking sound. I know this 
mightt be due to Webvisum loading, but it can continue for a minute or longer 
when clicking on a web site. Is there any way to turn off sounds in Fire Fox or 
must we just live with them. This has been true for a long time with earlier 
versions of JAWS and Window-Eyes. I’m finally getting tired enough  of it to 
ask about it. I didn’t see any options in the Fire Fox menus. Does JAWS have 
any settings for this? I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS

[Cristóbal]

I just go into the Jaws desktop properties icon and punch in a number in the
shortcut prompt (which is automatically added to the control+alt sequence)
and continue to tab  to the OK button.
I prefer to use the version number over the simple control+alt+J command
since I usually end up with more than one version of Jaws on my system
eventually. Control+alt+7 for JFW 17. Control+alt+8 for Jaws 18 and now for
version 2018, I just chose control+alt+2 and will likely go to control+alt+9
when Jaws 2019 comes out later this year. 
You just have to redo this shortcut after installing every Jaws update which
is easy enough.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Matthew Chao
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 11:21 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS

Hi, Folks.  I'm one of those former Window-Eyes users who went kicking and
screaming over to JAWS.  All that said, I only just yesterday started using
JAWS for the first time.

Anyway, my question is:  Is there a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS if
it and some other software don't play nice together?  I'm asking because I'm
an amateur radio operator (ham) and use an interface with a radio that when
plugged into my PC, takes all the sound away, including JAWS.  At that
point, I need to restart JAWS, but see no keyboard shortcut to do this.
Thoughts?  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao


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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Cristóbal]

So I was able to get the email stuff set up. I’m seeing that for each
periodical, I'm getting four attachments per email with xml and other Daisy
extensions. I've tried opening them directly from the email, but it's not
working. Is this something where I have to download the files first only to
then be able to open in an application?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Yes, and you can do it in one of two ways: either the first issue of the
paper, or have it email you all updates (i.e. some papers continue posting
articles to various sections throughout the day).


- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal" <crismuno...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


> Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the
> NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in fact

> a
> way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically 
> emailed
> to oneself?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and 
> find
> the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I must 
> admit
> that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book review section of
> the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any important news story in 
> Long
> Island's newsday, if I receive an interesting headline in an email from 
> the
> paper. But it would never occur to me to do anything complicated to read
> material from Newsline. Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the
> publications they have don't include all of the material that's actually 
> in
> the issues or sometimes, only partial articles are there.
>
> Miriam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
> That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling 
> FSReader,
> its own daisy reader with its installations.
>
> NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let you
> read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.
>
> If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to unload 
> Jaws
> and use an alternate screen-reader.
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS
>
>
>> Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me
>> some
>
>> tips on how to do it?
>>
>> Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With
>> Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word
>> in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but 
>> workable.
>> But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.
>>
>> I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
>> This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
>> Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Cristóbal]

Let me ask this. I'ts been forever and a day that I've logged into the
NFBNewsline website since I mainly do it over the iPhone. Is there in fact a
way to have the day's daily papers marked as favorites automatically emailed
to oneself?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

It never occurred to me to do anything except to go to the website and find
the links. I have several publications in My Favorites although I must admit
that basically, I use Newsline to look through the book review section of
the New York Times on Sunday and to look at any important news story in Long
Island's newsday, if I receive an interesting headline in an email from the
paper. But it would never occur to me to do anything complicated to read
material from Newsline. Additionally, I've discovered that sometimes, the
publications they have don't include all of the material that's actually in
the issues or sometimes, only partial articles are there.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

That's due to the fact that Freedom Scientific insists on bundling FSReader,
its own daisy reader with its installations.

NFB Newsline, when it detects a Jaws screen-reader in use, won't let you
read daisy files in another program except to use FS Reader.

If you want to use your Outlook program to do it, you'll need to unload Jaws
and use an alternate screen-reader.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS


> Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me 
> some

> tips on how to do it?
>
> Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With 
> Office 2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word 
> in order to read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but workable.
> But this file association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.
>
> I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0. 
> This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS 
> Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.
>
> Any ideas?
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 


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[JAWS-Users] Skype and Jaws 2018

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone’s been using the latest Skype (be it the desktop or
Windows 10 app) with a telephone number and whether they’ve been able to
perform basic functions with Jaws? I know the Skype topic has come up
recently in the past and how there are some accessibility challenges with
it. But it looks like there’s a nasty Skype for desktop exploit out there
and since I don’t use the chat features, but rather just the phone aspect,
thus my inquiry.

I saw that Brian Hartgen commented on Twitter that he’s been using the
Windows 10 app and is pleased with it. I know Brian’s probably considered an
advanced power user, so maybe he knows how to work around stuff maybe more
than the “average” computer user. 

Microsoft accessibility has acknowledged the accessibility difficulties with
the latest Skype updates, but as of yet, nothing’s been done about it. 

IN any event, I’m still on Skype for desktop 7.4 and using the latest Jaws
2018. Again, I’m mainly interested in the telephone aspect of the program
and if it’s still workable with Jaws. Be it the dedicated desktop app or the
universal Windows 10 app.

Thanks,

Cristobal

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[JAWS-Users] Introducing the Google disability support team - Google Accessibility Blog

[Cristóbal]

Thought this may be of intrest to folks who may use Google products. NO
phone number like Apple or Microsoft, but at least they’re offering email
support for accessibility issues.

https://www.google.com/accessibility/blog/post/announce-disability-support.h
tml 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[Cristóbal]

I'm going to have to pay more attention to this now. The only time I
absolutely know when Jaws freezes on me is when running a spell check in
Outlook before sending a message. It'll sometimes hang for a bit or outright
crash. I do get the odd Jaws freezing/hanging, but it's so random otherwise
that outside of the spellcheck thing, I can't really pinpoint a specific
behavior or sequence to it. I can usually tell when it crashes because my
Brailliant display will then just show the standard "Humanware Brailliant BI
40" message until Jaws comes back. This too is how I can tell in general
when Jaws has dumped on me since sometimes it can also be a pop up on the
screen or some other program that's frozen and gotte in the way of Jaws's
ability to speak. My sighted wife's bailed me out a few times by reaching
over and grabbing the mouse and closing whatever might be on the screen. And
like magic, Jaws comes back on its own.
There was an issue earlier this morning with Malwarebytes and some webcheck
update that was pushed out causing some weird ram spike and making
everything slow, crashy and buggy. It was locking up Jaws, NVDA and
Narrator. No matter what I tried, I would lose speech and I would have to
restart my desktop and laptop.
The only way I found out that it was Malwarebytes was by jumping online
between pc reboots and browsing through Twitter with my iPhone. There I saw
a tweet by them acknowledging that an app update was causing problems for
folks. They put out a fix about an hour later and both machines for me at
least are working as they should. It was a pretty stressful morning for
sure.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joediner...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I am running JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 Pro machine and experiencing the same
thing regarding freezing. In fact it happened to me the other day when I was
taking a Freedom Scientific certification exam Thinking there is a little
bit of irony there. If you leave the machine alone speech usually returns in
3 or 4 minutes.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Vernaleken`
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I have JAWS 2018 and run Windows 10 and it seems to be freezing up more
often than a few weeks ago.

John


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is
freezing?

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the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hello:

 

This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading
an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it
would just stop working.

I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the
hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Jaws problems with large tables

[Cristóbal]

The desktop's got 8 GB of ram and an I7 processor. The laptop's got 16 GB and 
an I7 processor.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Hans Pauli Sundstein
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Jaws problems with large tables

Hi Christóbal.

How much ram do you have on your computer?
Probably it can be a problem, causing to less ram.

I never recomend's a computer running Windows 10, Jaws 2018 and Microsoft 
Office, with less than 8 gb ram.
Even with this setup, it sometimes can be a problem, when tables are very 
complex in structure, and there is Graphic included.

I had no problem reading your table in the browser, but it is'nt the same as 
reading it in MS-Word.

Hope you find a solution for your problem.

Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Cristóbal
Dato: 19. januar 2018 23:33
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] Jaws problems with large tables

Hello list,

So, I’ve been having problems with Jaws and large tables. As part of my 
business, I work with one vendor that sends out assignments via email to bid 
on. Jaws will often get sluggish or pause for a few seconds as I arrow down the 
columns and will frequently crash outright. It’s become so much of an issue 
that I’ve started to switch to NVDA when receiving one of these emails. I find 
myself even having to go into the task manager at times to kill any JFW 
processes in order to get Jaws back.

I’m currently on the latest JFW 2018, but these issues were also present in 
earlier versions of JFW 2018 as well as JFW 18. I’m using Outlook 2016 on a 
Windows 10 desktop. This sluggishness also happens when I access the same 
emails on my laptop with the same operating specs.

I use both eloquence with Jaws and NVDA. Again, NVDA seems to handle these 
tables fine.

I reached out to Freedom Scientific with my problem and they wrote back saying 
that they couldn’t reproduce my issue. So…

I was wondering if others were perhaps having similar problems with tables and 
Jaws? I’ll go ahead and paste a sample email I get below.

Any input would be appreciated.





Dear Providers,

Below is a list of assignments for your region. Please review the attached list 
of assignments and advise which assignments your company is able to cover at 
contract rate. Reply to this email with the file number(s) including dashes and 
your company name so that we can assign to the correct provider. Once your 
response is received, we will review the information and assignment details.

**Turquoise highlight are Non Spanish **

* Only contract rate
* Do not include rates in your response.
* Do not add additional recipients to the response.
* If you cannot commit to securing we kindly ask that you not respond.

* If your company is chosen for the assignment, the information will be sent to 
your portal and via email.  It is imperative that you accept via the email and 
complete your confirmations.



If you are not assigned no further communication will be made.






West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-06963-000137-014

1/20/2018 9:15

2 Connecticut St San Francisco CA 94107

San Francisco

Vietnamese


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Other

1-09112-020864-020

1/20/2018 12:00

1971 E.ONSTOTT RD #35 YUBA CITY CA 95991

YUBA CITY

Farsi


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Dr. Evaluation

1-01940-000237-007

1/20/2018 12:00

100 S Ellsworth Ave San Mateo CA 94401

San Mateo

Burmese


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-03472-001154-002

1/22/2018 7:00

3930 4th Ave San Diego CA 92103

San Diego

Ethiopian


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-03113-000408-005

1/22/2018 8:45

225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291

Visalia

Portuguese


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-2554-00821-154

1/22/2018 9:00

5510 Birdcage St Citrus Heights CA 95610

Citrus Heights

Hmong


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-1406-01426-022

1/22/2018 9:45

2100 Webster St San Francisco CA 94115

San Francisco

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Physical Therapy

1-06849-000789-008

1/22/2018 9:50

7817 Oakport St Oakland CA 94621

Oakland

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-06576-02-005

1/22/2018 10:30

2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710

Berkeley

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-2292-00016-021

1/22/2018 10:45

225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291

Visalia

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Other

006-1104-00028-384

1/22/2018 11:00

7150 Sierra Ponds Ln Granite Bay CA 95746

Granite Bay

Sign Language


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-3221-05268-028

1/22/2018 11:30

555 Front St San Francisco CA 94111

San Francisco

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-02492-001459-002

1/22/2018 13:15

801 Traeger Ave San Bruno CA 94066

San Bruno

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-01073-000737-002

1/22/2018 14:05

1028 N Douty

[JAWS-Users] Jaws problems with large tables

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So, I’ve been having problems with Jaws and large tables. As part of my
business, I work with one vendor that sends out assignments via email to bid
on. Jaws will often get sluggish or pause for a few seconds as I arrow down
the columns and will frequently crash outright. It’s become so much of an
issue that I’ve started to switch to NVDA when receiving one of these
emails. I find myself even having to go into the task manager at times to
kill any JFW processes in order to get Jaws back.

I’m currently on the latest JFW 2018, but these issues were also present in
earlier versions of JFW 2018 as well as JFW 18. I’m using Outlook 2016 on a
Windows 10 desktop. This sluggishness also happens when I access the same
emails on my laptop with the same operating specs. 

I use both eloquence with Jaws and NVDA. Again, NVDA seems to handle these
tables fine. 

I reached out to Freedom Scientific with my problem and they wrote back
saying that they couldn’t reproduce my issue. So…

I was wondering if others were perhaps having similar problems with tables
and Jaws? I’ll go ahead and paste a sample email I get below. 

Any input would be appreciated.

 

 

Dear Providers, 

Below is a list of assignments for your region. Please review the attached
list of assignments and advise which assignments your company is able to
cover at contract rate. Reply to this email with the file number(s)
including dashes and your company name so that we can assign to the correct
provider. Once your response is received, we will review the information and
assignment details. 

**Turquoise highlight are Non Spanish **

*   Only contract rate 
*   Do not include rates in your response. 
*   Do not add additional recipients to the response. 
*   If you cannot commit to securing we kindly ask that you not respond.

*   If your company is chosen for the assignment, the information will
be sent to your portal and via email.  It is imperative that you accept via
the email and complete your confirmations.  

 

If you are not assigned no further communication will be made.

 

 


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-06963-000137-014

1/20/2018 9:15

2 Connecticut St San Francisco CA 94107

San Francisco

Vietnamese


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Other

1-09112-020864-020

1/20/2018 12:00

1971 E.ONSTOTT RD #35 YUBA CITY CA 95991

YUBA CITY

Farsi


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Dr. Evaluation

1-01940-000237-007

1/20/2018 12:00

100 S Ellsworth Ave San Mateo CA 94401

San Mateo

Burmese


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-03472-001154-002

1/22/2018 7:00

3930 4th Ave San Diego CA 92103

San Diego

Ethiopian


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-03113-000408-005

1/22/2018 8:45

225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291

Visalia

Portuguese


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-2554-00821-154

1/22/2018 9:00

5510 Birdcage St Citrus Heights CA 95610

Citrus Heights

Hmong


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-1406-01426-022

1/22/2018 9:45

2100 Webster St San Francisco CA 94115

San Francisco

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Physical Therapy

1-06849-000789-008

1/22/2018 9:50

7817 Oakport St Oakland CA 94621

Oakland

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-06576-02-005

1/22/2018 10:30

2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710

Berkeley

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-2292-00016-021

1/22/2018 10:45

225 S Chinowth St Visalia CA 93291

Visalia

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Other

006-1104-00028-384

1/22/2018 11:00

7150 Sierra Ponds Ln Granite Bay CA 95746

Granite Bay

Sign Language


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-3221-05268-028

1/22/2018 11:30

555 Front St San Francisco CA 94111

San Francisco

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-02492-001459-002

1/22/2018 13:15

801 Traeger Ave San Bruno CA 94066

San Bruno

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-01073-000737-002

1/22/2018 14:05

1028 N Douty St Hanford CA 93230

Hanford

Arabic


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Other

001-2938-07365-019

1/22/2018 14:30

2923 Webster St Oakland CA 94609

Oakland

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-00708-000407-004

1/22/2018 14:30

462 W Napa St Sonoma CA 95476

Sonoma

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Physical Therapy

1-01039-75-019

1/22/2018 14:30

7425 Mission Valley Rd San Diego CA 92108

San Diego

Korean


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-2102-03281-009

1/22/2018 15:00

2027 VILLAGE LANE  Solvang CA 93463

Solvang

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

001-1217-01636-041

1/22/2018 15:15

34 Mark West Springs Rd Santa Rosa CA 95403

Santa Rosa

Spanish


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Doctor

1-03696-000253-007

1/22/2018 15:40

2801 K St Sacramento CA 95816

Sacramento

Portuguese


West

In-Person Standard

CA

Physical Therapy

1-09108-000620-019

1/22/2018 16:30

2850 7th St Berkeley CA 94710

Berkeley

Mien

 

 

 


West

In-Person Medical Certified

CA

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Cristóbal]

We all want to know . . . Who's Melanie and what's this about a "crop walk"?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

I am sorry. I have no clue how this message ended up on this thread. It was
not suppose to do that, obviously.


On 1/11/2018 4:01 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Melanie,
> Sure. Unfortunately, my braille printer is not functioning at this time,
but I can certainly take notes and present whatever. And if you want to talk
about it and make whatever special emphasis points you want to, that would
be great. It looks a lot like last years it seems to me. Not a lot of
change, except for our not being entirely sure about housing initiative
stuff, and the lack of a crop walk. That was a surprise. If you would like
to talk, what time works well for you?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:04 AM, Fuzzmom  wrote:
>>
>> I'm running outlook 2013 and sometime my email either won't accept my
>> typing, or it'll just close and freze up. Have you  guys had this issue
and
>> will the new update fix that? Also, I have the home use edition, the low
>> priced one. Is there a limit to how many jws updates you can get? They
just
>> released this early Nov and I'm surprised thy have a new update already.
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
>> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:52 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
>> Download Links + What's New
>>
>> Thanks, Mike. This release fixed the problem I was having reading email
>> messages in Outlook 2010, so it did more than advertised.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike B.
>> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
>> To: Jaws-Users
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
>> Download Links + What's New
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained
below.
>>
>> Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released
in
>> December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:
>>
>> list of 2 items
>> 1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
>> navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
>> email instead of the current one.
>> 2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
>> speak the text while navigating by character or word.
>> list end
>>
>> Solution
>>
>> These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
>> update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have
2
>> options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:
>>
>> list of 2 items
>> A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It
is
>> OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new
install
>> by itself.
>>
>>
>> 32 Bit:
>>
>> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe
>>
>> 64 Bit:
>>
>> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe
>>
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
the
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

[Cristóbal]

Agree. The very few times where there's an element that can be clicked through 
for me at least doesn't warrant this feature to be enabled. Besides, you can 
more or less tell if and when you can click on something to bring up a dialog 
on the page.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

its not useful as far as i am concerned.
both window eyes and n v d a does the same thing. and so far none of these so 
called clickables click on anything.
if i could turn this off for all my screen readers i would do it. its totally 
useless to me.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hey Cristobal.

Yes, I know I can disable it, but having JAWS detect these elements is 
potentially useful. It just seems like it's doing it wrong, and I'd like to 
know why that is. I know I'm not the only one; does everyone else just turn the 
whole thing off, or live with it?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Crist bal
Sent: January 10, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Disable the detect elements setting in your Jaws settings. Going off of memory 
so the exact terminology may be off, but it's easy to find. I'm sure someone 
else will provide step by step instructions if needed.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hey everyone.

I know this topic came up here some time ago, but I'm afraid it wasn't relevant 
to me at the time and wasn't a thread I took the time to read. So, sorry for 
bringing it up again.



But yes, I was just wondering about this. I understand that there often *is* 
"clickable" text on a webpage, and JAWS is trying to inform me of this fact.
But on many pages, every line will say "clickable", even though there is 
nothing to click/nothing happens when you click. Why is this? And can I get a 
happy medium somewhere? Obviously I don't want to miss important information 
about a page, but when I'm reading a wikipedia article or IMDB review or 
something and hear "clickable, clickable, clickable", on what appears to be 
static text - that just seems like weird, excessive noise.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

[Cristóbal]

Disable the detect elements setting in your Jaws settings. Going off of
memory so the exact terminology may be off, but it's easy to find. I'm sure
someone else will provide step by step instructions if needed.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hey everyone.

I know this topic came up here some time ago, but I'm afraid it wasn't
relevant to me at the time and wasn't a thread I took the time to read. So,
sorry for bringing it up again.

 

But yes, I was just wondering about this. I understand that there often *is*
"clickable" text on a webpage, and JAWS is trying to inform me of this fact.
But on many pages, every line will say "clickable", even though there is
nothing to click/nothing happens when you click. Why is this? And can I get
a happy medium somewhere? Obviously I don't want to miss important
information about a page, but when I'm reading a wikipedia article or IMDB
review or something and hear "clickable, clickable, clickable", on what
appears to be static text - that just seems like weird, excessive noise.

 

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[JAWS-Users] How well does Jaws 2018 work with the latest Kindle for PC

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Was curious to know if anyone’s been using the most recent version of Kindle
for PC and Jaws 2018? I know there have been supposed improvements on both
sides in regards to accessibility, but poking around online, it doesn’t
really say how extensive. If things like highlighting or making notes, that
sort of thing can also be done with Jaws. I’ve heard that NVDA also is
supposed to work well with Kindle for PC, but NVDA is more my backup choice
for doing things. I’d rather stick with Jaws if possible. How about braille
display support?

I like FSReader and QRead well enough, but the most you can really do with
either program is bookmark. That and if you’ve got multiple devices you’ve
soon got a patchwork of books and bookmarks on different machines.

The idea of being able to make notations and highlight passages and have
synchronization across platforms and devices is appealing to me. Thus my
interest.

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

[Cristóbal]

There was a Jaws 2018 update pushed out this morning which among other
things, addressed some log on issues with Windows 10. I haven't experienced
these issues, but maybe give it a shot. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi,
A few questions:
* Is this really a Windows 10 Version 170x machine? The new Narrator command
is available from 1703 onwards. If Control+Windows+Enter doesn't work, try
Windows+Enter.
* Sounds like BitLocker (Pro and higher) is told to prompt you for a pin or
a USB drive. In this case, screen readers may not be available at that
prompt. The only way to circumvent this is turning off BitLocker completely
9unless your organization's policy says otherwise).
I'll forward this to another list to see if folks there have any answers.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi All,

 

We are continuing to have problems with logging into the Windows10 Dell 7440
test machine at work.  Frequently JAWS appears to be clipped when it
initially launches prior to the login screen.  When this happens, JAWS does
not come back until after the user has logged in and they are on the
desktop.  So one thing I am asking that IT look at is the launch order.  Am
I barking up an empty tree?  Is there a way to change this order?

 

I've been attempting to use Control+Windows+Enter to turn on Narrator at the
login screen, but it will not launch.

 

In addition, sometimes BitLocker comes up and wants some type of action from
the user.  Besides figuring out what is triggering what now appears to be a
random launching of BitLocker, I am looking for any tips on how a JAWS user
can get through BitLocker when it does come up.  I'm guessing that there is
not a solution.

Thanks,

Annette

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Making annotations with eBooks

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So was wondering on people’s strategies for taking notes or if they want to
make annotations in an eBook they may be reading. I do pretty much all of my
fiction reading via audiobook, but for nonfiction topics, while I do some
audiobook consumption, my preference is eBook. BookShare, ePub, etc.

Sometimes, you want to take note of a particular fact or passage and be able
to refer to it at a later time. With FSReader or QRead at least, I think the
most you can do is bookmark.

My college days are long past and even then, I did it the old school way
with Braille and cassette recordings.

More than anything, I’m just curious to know how folks do it to have their
virtual bookshelf marked up with their notes in the margins and so on.

I think you can do this with Kindle, but I don’t really use the Kindle
platform be it on my iPhone and not at all on my PC.

Thanks, 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

[Cristóbal]

I've generally used the insert+control+f command across all programs as it 
seems to be nearly universal for Jaws as opposed to keeping track on which 
applications may and may not allow the control+f command to find something. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

Mary, I find that three-key combo works in a number of places. For example, it 
functions differently enough in MS Word to make it sometimes a useful 
alternative to MS's control-f find command. With PDF files, it's the only find 
command that works while using JAWS.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

Thank you for this information. Where should I have looked to have found that? 
Doess this work in other instances if control f doesn’t work? What is the 
difference between control F and control jaws key f?
Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> 
> What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.
> 
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> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document
> 
> I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
> There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
> HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
> if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
> document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
> wrong and how can I fix it?
> Mary
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Top 5 audio enhancers for Windows 10

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone’s used any of these sound utilities and whether they
found them to be accessible and actually do in fact increase or enhance
sound quality? Be it audio in general (in my case a laptop) or even if
there’s any positive impact for a screen reader (for me Jaws with
eloquence).

I thought I’d ask first in case someone’s already put them through their
paces and can offer an opinion and hopefully help avoid having to install
and uninstall application after application. Link to the article covering
each one is also below.

Applications in question are:

1. DFX Audio Enhancer

2. Breakaway Audio Enhancer

3. Bongiovi DPS for Windows 10

4. SoundPimp Audio Enhancer

5. Fidelizer Audio Enhancer

http://windowsreport.com/best-audio-enhancers-windows-10/

Thanks,

Cristobal

 

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[JAWS-Users] Trying to figure out Firefox bookmarks

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Screen reader issues with the coming Firefox 57 aside, I know some add-ons
are going to stop working regardless when these pending problems are
resolved. 

For years, I’ve been using the PlainOldFavorites extension and while I
haven’t actually used IE in forever, I’ve always liked IE’s favorites layout
simplicity

In any event, I’ve recently been trying to work with Firefox bookmarks and
am dealing with a frustrating issue. There appear to be some bookmarks that
no matter how much I try to delete/get rid of them, they’re still showing up
in my bookmarks menu. This is making jumping to a bookmark by the first
letter tedious and much longer than when working in IE’s favorites layout.
They seem to be showing up right after the most recent bookmarked option. Be
it deleted folders or unsorted bookmarks.

Was just wondering if I’m missing something on how to better sort the
Firefox bookmarks menu or if this is just going to be a part of dealing with
this feature? I do already have bookmarks set to sort by name. 

Using the latest JFW 2018 recently released and am on Firefox 56.X. I’ve
already disabled the automatic update in Firefox and will only update once
the noted screen reader issues are finally resolved.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Cristobal

 

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[JAWS-Users] Google Chrome reader mode

[Cristóbal]

Hello list

So for the longest, I’ve been a Firefox user and have started to play around
with Chrome. 

IN Firefox, there is a reader mode (alt+control_R) that you could activate
to get rid of a lot of clutter on websites that support it. This is almost
nearly universal, but for a few sites. CNN comes to mind. 

IN any event, I was wondering if Chrome had an equivalent for this
feature/keyboard command? Poking around in the settings, didn’t really come
across anything. Nor did I find a keyboard command listed when doing a
general Google search for Chrome keyboard commands. I did find an extension
called read mode, but in its brief description didn’t mention a command.
Just some icon to click to enable and disable this layout.

I do use and like the Jaws flexible web feature, but the alt+control+r
command is probably my most used command in Firefox. Sometimes, you just
want in and out on a site without having to configure beyond that one time
you’re going to click through to read X, Y or Z.

I recall way back when, there was a programmer who put out some scripts for
Firefox and IE called IEMax and FireFoxMax or something. One of the nifty
keyboard commands in those scripts was a control+m for a pagination/reader
mode. It was incredibly useful. This was way back with Firefox 4 or 5. 

Anyway, any help for a Chrome newbie on this particular command would be
appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

[Cristóbal]

Well… SO I first went back and clicked on the last October JFW .exe file I
had and the prompt of Jaws made changes to your computer. Restart for
changes to take affect etc. Came up. I thought… … … cool maybe it’ll work
after all. The PC restarted and I got the notification to modify/repair of
which I selected repair. I let it do its thing. Pressed the various OK
buttons and after it restarted again… … … the same reply/forward bug
appeared.
So I figured, I’ll go ahead and just install the new JFW 2018 released today
and as was suggested on another list. Not migrate any settings. Did the
whole song and dance. Restarted the machine. Went through the startup wizard
and… … … Low-and-behold, I’ve got the reply/forward bug on this new JFW
version as well. 
This is the only real issue I’m encountering. And on this one machine. JFW
2018 on my HP Envy laptop is working perfectly fine. At least not getting
that reply/forward bug on it. Unfortunately, this is a rather noticeable bug
and present on my main work desktop. Both running Office 2016/Windows 10.
I guess I’ll have to try uninstalling and reinstalling next. That will have
to be with more time though. 
I guess I can also as suggested try removing shared components. I don’t
think I want to do that quite yet… I don’t recall at the moment, but does
removing shared components mean you’ll then need an activation key? I’m
fairly certain that I’m currently at zero keys.
Anyway, something to worry about for tomorrow.
Thanks,

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading
to V 2018

Hi Cristobal,

Don't worry about the Sentinel System Driver. It is already installed which
is why it did not copy. Not sure about the failed to install components
however.
The next thing to try is to just execute the install of the JAWS 18 again,
without using the / type repair.
When it starts, it will give you the choice as to what you want to do and
there is a repair option in that list. Please choose that one and complete
in install.
If you still have a problem, I would suggest uninstalling and removing
shared. Then do a clean install.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFOT | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V
2018

Hello list,

So, I've been dealing with this issue since Jaws 18 was put out on 9/26/17.
Along with the Outlook address thing that later got fixed, I was having
trouble when replying or forwarding message in Outlook. Arrowing down was
not possible. Jaws would behave as though I was at the bottom of the screen.
Even if I arrowed up once and then tried going back down to the line I was
previously at, I'd encounter that same barrier. Navigating the message body
of text with the read by paragraph or sentence commands, Jaws worked as
always. It was just the read/navigate by line that was giving me problems. 

VFO tech support emailed me instructing that I should try doing a Jaws
repair. Do the copy path from my JFW .exe file and add the / type repair at
the end in the run dialog box. 

As I saw that Jaws 2018 came out today, I figured I'd try to get this
resolved. I for one reason or another hadn't had the chance to go through
with the repair, but figured I should try addressing it before upgrading to
JFW 2018.

In any event, I went through the repair process earlier today and along with
all the other typical Jaws chatter when doing an installation (I was using a
JFW.exe file from October that addressed the Outlook issue), I heard Jaws
say something about a sentinel system driver not being copied. By the end of
the process I then got the following error message:

The JAWS setup package could not install the required component 

JAWSRepair.  The process will now exit.

OK

I already wrote VFO back about this, but as it's Jaws 2018 release day, I
don't expect a follow up any time soon as I'm sure they'll be dealing with
all sorts of stuff related to that.

Anyone have an idea on what this is or how to fix it?

Thanks,

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[JAWS-Users] Problem trying to repair Jaws 18 before upgrading to V 2018

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So, I’ve been dealing with this issue since Jaws 18 was put out on 9/26/17.
Along with the Outlook address thing that later got fixed, I was having
trouble when replying or forwarding message in Outlook. Arrowing down was
not possible. Jaws would behave as though I was at the bottom of the screen.
Even if I arrowed up once and then tried going back down to the line I was
previously at, I’d encounter that same barrier. Navigating the message body
of text with the read by paragraph or sentence commands, Jaws worked as
always. It was just the read/navigate by line that was giving me problems. 

VFO tech support emailed me instructing that I should try doing a Jaws
repair. Do the copy path from my JFW .exe file and add the / type repair at
the end in the run dialog box. 

As I saw that Jaws 2018 came out today, I figured I’d try to get this
resolved. I for one reason or another hadn’t had the chance to go through
with the repair, but figured I should try addressing it before upgrading to
JFW 2018.

In any event, I went through the repair process earlier today and along with
all the other typical Jaws chatter when doing an installation (I was using a
JFW.exe file from October that addressed the Outlook issue), I heard Jaws
say something about a sentinel system driver not being copied. By the end of
the process I then got the following error message:

The JAWS setup package could not install the required component 

JAWSRepair.  The process will now exit.

OK

I already wrote VFO back about this, but as it’s Jaws 2018 release day, I
don’t expect a follow up any time soon as I’m sure they’ll be dealing with
all sorts of stuff related to that.

Anyone have an idea on what this is or how to fix it?

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Taking calls through the computer

[Cristóbal]

I just use Skype with a paid for telephone number and a Logitech headset
with a boom mic.  
I don't recall the model headset, but it's pretty basic. Anything with a
boom mic will do. Jaws comes through both headphones along with the call.
Serves my purposes well enough.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Taking calls through the computer

Thanks for the response .. I'll check into Plantronics .. Do you
know a specific phone software that works well with Jaws? .. 

Laura
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Taking calls through the computer

Plantronics is where I'd go.  I apologize that it took so long ot get back
to you; I was walking out the door when I responded to you.
 
Justin
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Taking calls through the computer

Do you have any recommendations on where I might check to purchase this type
of headset and the phone software?

Laura


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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Taking calls through the computer

Yes, you'd need headphones which split with jaws in one ear, and the
customer in the other. You'd also need the phone software.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Taking calls through the computer

Hello,

 

Does Jaws have the capability to take phone calls through the computer?  If
so, is this easily done and would I need a specific headset or other
equipment to do this? .. I'm using Jaws 18 and Windows 10.  Thank you in
advance for any help.

 

Laura

  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] weird Firefox issue

[Cristóbal]

I've had this for I don't know how many years now. Different machines and
installs. I think it's even come up on the various tech lists from time to
time with no real answer. I've honestly just ignored it at this point.
That all said, if there is in fact a solution to this, I’m all ears.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] weird firefox issue

now whenever I open firefox or open the bookmarks jaws announces chrome
slash slash content slash bookmarks slash bookmark panel slash show read
only why does it do this, its not a jaws issue or a windows 10 issue how can
I get firefox to stop doing this Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build

[Cristóbal]

I'm still having an issue present in the last release where when replying or
forwarding an email in Outlook 2016, I can't arrow down. Jaws acts as if I'm
at the bottom of the screen. Using the read by paragraph or sentence
commands work fine and if I arrow up and then try to go back down by line,
the line I was previously on is no longer accessible to me with the read by
line command. 
I wrote VFO about this last week along with the issue others were
experiencing with the email address bug. I was informed at that time that
they weren't getting this problem reported by others. It was suggested I do
a Jaws repair and remove some user settings. I really didn't want to go
through that hassle and was thinking of rolling back before I installed the
9/26/17 update with system restore, but then today's update came out. I was
hoping this would fix it along with that annoying email address bug. No go
though.
I wrote VFO again. So who knows. I haven't heard of this particular problem
come up on this and other accessibility lists so maybe it's just me after
all. Oh joy.
I'll wait to see what sort of response I get back in case they've by any
chance now encountered this bug with others. 
At least the email address thing got fixed. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build

But it certainly did fix the problem with the auto complete addresses in
Outlook 2016. What a relief! Before I downloaded it, I was having to write
the first letter or two of an address, press enter, and then read what was
on the line to see if I'd gotten the correct address.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build

I see this build still did not fix the inability to read the amount of
messages in Thunderbird folders by pressing insert plus num pad 3.


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[JAWS-Users] Recommending Brian Vogel

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So, a while back on this and other lists, I had posted an inquiry/request
for help on a task having to do with my business. I was looking to automate
a task of triggering an action on a link when a certain email from a
particular account would come in. 

I had poked around online and while the general idea seemed possible, the
technical aspects were beyond my computer knowledge and abilities. 

In any event, I got a near universal “can’t be done” on my query, but Brian
Vogel reached out and with his help, we were able to accomplish this task.
It took a couple of remote sessions and over the phone, but the deed got
done and he also at my request provided me with a guide/installer should I
have the need to replicate the steps on another machine in the future. 

The fact that he was familiar with assistive technology (in my case Jaws)
made things a lot easier as well.

I would highly recommend Brian should anyone have the need for any computer
help beyond what may fall under the purview of this list. 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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[JAWS-Users] Another issue with the latest JFW 18 update

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I’m encountering an issue with the latest JFW 18 update and Outlook 2016.

I’m noticing when I’m either replying or forwarding a message, I’m having
trouble accessing the entire message field. Be it to delete certain sections
of the email like headers or signatures or text in general. 

Also, if replying, the replied to text isn’t accessible by Jaws. I’ve tried
maximizing window, alt tab and then back and so on, but that part of the
message just doesn’t show up. This behavior isn’t consistent and is somewhat
hit or miss. But enough so that it’s quickly becoming annoying and
disruptive. 

Between this and the bug where email addresses aren’t being announced by
Jaws in the to/cc/bcc fields, I’m finding this update of Jaws to be a dud
and am considering rolling back.

Is anyone else dealing with this odd issue? 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

[Cristóbal]

Outlook 2016. It worked before. Now after updating, as explained below, it
doesn't. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hi,
First of all which version of Outlook are you using? Second did this work to
announce names before you updated to the newest Jaws 18?
I am using Outlook 2010 and have not updated to the latest Jaws 18.  My
Outlook read the names in a new email. 
So are you saying you updated and now it does not announce the names in a
new email?
Just wanting to know this before I update to the latest Jaws update.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

I don’t' get that beep and am able to down-arrow. For me at least, Jaws
doesn’t announce the names of contacts, but they are being cycled through. I
email a lot of the same people for my business and have learned the pattern
of how they come up when typing out their names. The letter M and then arrow
down for Maria X, Y or Z for example. This still occurs. Again though, Jaws
just isn't announcing the changes. 
Either way though, it is annoying and frustrating as I often now have to use
the to or CC or BCC buttons to go into my address book when I want to insert
multiple emails or if there is a long list of names with the same starting
sequence of letters. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

When I am in the TO: field, I type the first letter of a name.  With
previous versions of JAWS, the first name beginning with that first letter
in my autocomplete list would be spoken.  If I was to hit the down-arrow
key, the next name in the list would be spoken.  I could down-arrow through
the list until I found the name I wanted.  When I hit the tab key, the name
would be inserted in to the TO: field and I could begin typing the next
to-name and repeat the process for this second name.  None of this is
working with the new release of JAWS.  After I have typed that first letter
and hit the down-arrow key, I hear a beep; indicating that I can't
down-arrow through the list.  So, it isn't that JAWS just isn't announcing
it.

Reed
 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 27, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

It does. Jaws just doesn’t announce it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hello;
I also noticed with this newest update, the  AutoComplete doesn't work in
outlook 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

This build of JAWS 18 still does not read the status line in Thunderbird
with insert num pad 3, as where JAWS 2018 does.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

[Cristóbal]

I don’t' get that beep and am able to down-arrow. For me at least, Jaws
doesn’t announce the names of contacts, but they are being cycled through. I
email a lot of the same people for my business and have learned the pattern
of how they come up when typing out their names. The letter M and then arrow
down for Maria X, Y or Z for example. This still occurs. Again though, Jaws
just isn't announcing the changes. 
Either way though, it is annoying and frustrating as I often now have to use
the to or CC or BCC buttons to go into my address book when I want to insert
multiple emails or if there is a long list of names with the same starting
sequence of letters. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

When I am in the TO: field, I type the first letter of a name.  With
previous versions of JAWS, the first name beginning with that first letter
in my autocomplete list would be spoken.  If I was to hit the down-arrow
key, the next name in the list would be spoken.  I could down-arrow through
the list until I found the name I wanted.  When I hit the tab key, the name
would be inserted in to the TO: field and I could begin typing the next
to-name and repeat the process for this second name.  None of this is
working with the new release of JAWS.  After I have typed that first letter
and hit the down-arrow key, I hear a beep; indicating that I can't
down-arrow through the list.  So, it isn't that JAWS just isn't announcing
it.

Reed
 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 27, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

It does. Jaws just doesn’t announce it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hello;
I also noticed with this newest update, the  AutoComplete doesn't work in
outlook 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

This build of JAWS 18 still does not read the status line in Thunderbird
with insert num pad 3, as where JAWS 2018 does.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Install office update?

[Cristóbal]

>From within Outlook 2016 I can press F6 till I get to that message which
will then take me to the menu where I can either choose to update disable
updates or close.
Haven't updated yet, but went through the process to close out the prompt
since it was messing with my ability to have Jaws read the status line.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Install office update?

H,
I tried doing these steps on my Office 2010 in ms word. These steps did not
work. I just wanted to make sure I have been getting all the updates for my
Office 2010. I am sure I have it turned on in update and security to update
all programs.
Any idea why those key combinations did not work in Word 2010?
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Install office update?

1, open MSWord,

2, alt+f=file,

Now press dr,
And say yest to update.



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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Install office update?

I'm hearing this message, periodically, about installing Office update, but
I don't know where to go to do it. I have Windows 7 64 Bit I E 11. Can
someone give me very specific, detailed instructions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

[Cristóbal]

It does. Jaws just doesn’t announce it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hello;
I also noticed with this newest update, the  AutoComplete doesn't work in
outlook 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

This build of JAWS 18 still does not read the status line in Thunderbird
with insert num pad 3, as where JAWS 2018 does.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] The Codex converter instructions for Kendal books

[Cristóbal]

I mean, it literally says on the website: 
• If you wish to carry on using Codex to convert all your Kindle purchases,
you will need to avoid updating to any release of Kindle for PC with a
version
number higher than 1.17. If you have not already updated to Kindle for PC
1.19, you can open the Options dialog from the Tools menu and uncheck the
box
which reads: “Automatically install updates when they are available without
asking me”. 
http://jscholes.net/using-codex-with-kindle-for-pc-1-19/
I'm using the older Kindle for PC version and have had no problems
converting and reading in QRead for example. 
The old Kindle for PC application is still kind of crappy as far as
accessibility, but you only need it to download the title. After that, you
don’t' really have to interact with it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The Codex converter instructions for Kendal books

But it doesn't work with the latest version of kindle for pc.  Or, is there
another version out?
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] The Codex converter instructions for Kendal books

I know that many of you downloaded the codex to convert the Kendal books.

Sadly enough, the steps to convert books are right on the download page, but
never the less many passed the information by. Steps to convert Kindle
books:

1.   Download Kindle app to PC

2.Go to Kindle content on the desktop, 

3.   Should see a list of your books, click on applications and make
sure that the book is actually downloaded

4.   Open up Codex app and press Alt/T

5.   Arrow down to brows downloaded Kindle books and press enter

6.   Find book that you want to convert, if not in list, then it is not
downloaded into your Kindle folder

7.   After you choose book, you can choose the file type, Word, Epup,
PDF and so on.

 

 

Have fun,

 

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Instapaper versus Pocket and accessibility

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So for the longest, I’ve been using Instapaper to save various articles to
read later. I mainly do so via the iOS app on my iPhone. This arrangement
has served me well. 

Nevertheless, the actual website has been and continues to present some
accessibility issues. I’ve written the Instapaper folks about this as well
as VFO. VFO took a look at the site and pointed out some areas where
accessibility is lacking. I provided this info to Instapaper as well. The
site still has the same issues. The Instapaper folks gave lip service on how
they take accessibility seriously and would look into it, but nothing’s
changed.

IN any event, I’ve found myself needing to check out my article database
more and more on my PC. TO this, does anyone know if Pocket has any better
accessibility on the computer in conjunction with Jaws? I’m on V 18 with
Firefox as my main browser.

I guess I’m also interested in how accessible the iOS app is, but for now,
more so the actual website on the PC. It would be a hassle to have to
transfer everything I’ve saved over the years just to find out that Pocket
may have accessibility problems of its own.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Moving an application from one virtual desktop to another

[Cristóbal]

Never mind, I seem to have found the answer:
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-tip-move-apps-between-multiple
-desktops

 

From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Moving an application from one virtual desktop to another

 

Hello list,

Does anyone know how to move an open application from one virtual desktop to
another using Jaws?

Using Windows 10 and JFW 18.

Thanks,

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[JAWS-Users] Moving an application from one virtual desktop to another

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Does anyone know how to move an open application from one virtual desktop to
another using Jaws?

Using Windows 10 and JFW 18.

Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to copy audio files and maintain track order.

[Cristóbal]

Going to have to edit the file metadata. I've always used MP3Tag for this. A
quick Google search will bring up the page.
I use an older version since it's always worked well for me and is fully
Jaws accessible. I tried upgrading once, but found it wasn't as intuitive as
the version I was using.
In any event, editing the tags so the files are labeled 01, 02, 03, etc as
far as numeration will resolve that issue.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 10:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to copy audio files and maintain track order.

I changed the subject line to provide a description of the question.  I do
not know the answer, and am very interested in learning.

Tim Ford




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[JAWS-Users] Automatically open link in received email via Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So, part of My business in tales accepting freelance assignments via email
with a corresponding accept/reject link. These assignments are time
sensitive and they’re pretty much first come, first serve.

A good description of what I’m looking for is contained in this forum thread
link.
https://forums.slipstick.com/threads/94167-automatically-open-link-in-email-
received/ 

I’d like to have an automated action where as an email comes in the accept
link is activated without me having to navigate to the email, open it,
scroll down to locate the link and then click.

I’m in general pretty fast at this, but I still lose time when having to do
all the steps above. Especially trying to get to the proper link. That’s
also if I’m not at my computer and haven’t stepped away for this or that
reason or if Jaws decides to at that time act all weird on me.

These emails can come in for a lot of Southern California. I’ve already
filtered out areas that I don’t wish to cover and only receive emails for
the areas I know I can do or get covered. 

The thread referenced above talks a lot about scripting and macros and while
I’m a pretty competent PC user in general, scripting, coding and macros are
areas where I simply have no knowledge of. 

Can anyone help me out either by pointing me in the direction to some
resources on where I can learn about this stuff to where it doesn’t’ seem
like hieroglyphics or perhaps help me out with this particular task?

The link above talks abut Outlook 2007, but I’m using V2016. Also a Jaws 18
user. My default browser is Firefox.

Any help would be appreciated.

_._,_._,_

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Request for suggestion for an accessible rss reader for firefox

[Cristóbal]

It works with all browsers as it is webbased. It's basically a website. You
can sort by folders, read,unread, oldest to newest and vice versa.
There are some keyboard hotkeys and commands, but at least in my case, as a
Jaws user, I more or less get around like any webpage. I may on occasion use
a hotkey command. In those cases, I invoke the insert+3 Jaws command to
bypass the screen reader command.
If memory serves, there is a free plan for less than 100 feeds. I've been
using it for a few years now and pay $2.00 a month. Instead of the $3.00.
There may be a discount if you pay for the full year.
It also integrates with other services like Instapaper and you can share via
Facebook and email, etc.
Also, if you have an iOS device or even an Android, it works with certain
RSS apps on those platforms. I use Feeddler Pro on my iPhone/iPad. It
synchronizes in real time.
All in all, a good solid service which in my case at least, I don't mind
paying for.

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Behalf Of Ben J Bloomgren
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Request for suggestion for an accessible rss
reader for firefox

Jim and all,

Does this reader work with chrome?

Ben

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 06:36, Jim Pursley  wrote:
> 
> I use the Old Reader (essentially the Google Reader continued).  It works
fine with IE and Firefox as well.
> 
> 
> www.theoldreader.com.
> 
> Premium version is $3 a month.
>> On 7/5/2017 10:28 AM, Jitendra Kumar wrote:
>> Hello friends, I used sage fx once, and it had the following:
>> pressing alt+z opens a tree, where you can select items from the 
>> bookmarks menu, and it included all the folders, pressing tab landed 
>> on another tree, which displayed the titles of the articles, if we 
>> press enter on an item, that will open in the page display window, 
>> and if we press enter on a folder from the previous tree, all the 
>> articles were displayed in the page display window, and using virtual 
>> cursor and heading, we could read the articles on one single page, I 
>> now want to have such a nice reader for rss for firefox, some of them 
>> I tried, but unable to find the content of the article. Thank you.
>> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Ring Video Pro accessibility

[Cristóbal]

No.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jorge Rivas
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ring Video Pro accessibility

Chris,
Have you tried the Pitbull App? Smile.
Jorge

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Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 5:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Ring Video Pro accessibility

Hello list,

Was considering getting a Ring Video Pro and would like to know if the
accompanying app/cloud service is at all accessible? 

I’d likely get someone to install it, but I’m interested in the
notifications aspect. Both the wife and I run our businesses out of the
house, so we’re home throughout the day. We’ve already got a no
solicitations, no surveys and no sermons sign in front to cut down on people
coming to the door, but there are always those who would never consider that
such a sign applies to them.

In any event, I’d like to know people’s experiences with this device and
accompanying desktop app for Windows.

Using the latest JFW 18.

Thanks,

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[JAWS-Users] Ring Video Pro accessibility

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Was considering getting a Ring Video Pro and would like to know if the
accompanying app/cloud service is at all accessible? 

I’d likely get someone to install it, but I’m interested in the
notifications aspect. Both the wife and I run our businesses out of the
house, so we’re home throughout the day. We’ve already got a no
solicitations, no surveys and no sermons sign in front to cut down on people
coming to the door, but there are always those who would never consider that
such a sign applies to them.

In any event, I’d like to know people’s experiences with this device and
accompanying desktop app for Windows.

Using the latest JFW 18.

Thanks,

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[JAWS-Users] Problem with Firefox constantly refreshing and Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So I’ve been encountering this problem today. In Firefox 53.0 and the latest
JFW 18, the page is constantly refreshing making me lose my place. This is
getting rather annoying fast. 

Be it in a Google search results page or other pages. Side note, I’m trying
to look up issues with my Outlook Exchange server not connecting, but it’s
becoming nearly impossible since I’m always getting placed at the top of the
page.

I have the refresh page settings in Jaws set to off and off the top of my
head, don’t’ recall this issue present even yesterday. Firefox is my default
browser, so haven’t yet tried another browser.

Any ideas how to stop this disruptive behavior?

Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Focus issues with Jaws and Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

Yes.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 12:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Focus issues with Jaws and Outlook 2016

My first obvious question is?
Do you have the screen maximized?


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Focus issues with Jaws and Outlook 2016

Hello list,

Using JFW 18 and Outlook 2016, I often encounter an issue where I’m working
in Outlook, be it the calendar, mail or notes view and Jaws will lose focus
and start speaking the content of another view in outlook. The only way for
me to get focus back and navigate the window I’m in is to tab/shift+tab or
control+tab/control+shift+tab.

I have noticed this issue in earlier versions of Jaws 18/ 17, etc. Also in
Outlook 2010. I’m not entireley sure, but it feels like it’s happening more
often with Outlook 2016. It could be though that this is the program I use
the most throughout the day and thus deal with this focus issue more often
because of it.

Is anyone else dealing with this problem and do they perhaps have a fix for
it that I’m maybe not aware of? That or is it another one of those Jaws
buggy issues? 

I do encounter this problem on two separate machines. A Dell desktop and HP
laptop. So I’m pretty certain it’s not a system specific issue.

Thanks.

Cristobal

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[JAWS-Users] Focus issues with Jaws and Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Using JFW 18 and Outlook 2016, I often encounter an issue where I’m working
in Outlook, be it the calendar, mail or notes view and Jaws will lose focus
and start speaking the content of another view in outlook. The only way for
me to get focus back and navigate the window I’m in is to tab/shift+tab or
control+tab/control+shift+tab.

I have noticed this issue in earlier versions of Jaws 18/ 17, etc. Also in
Outlook 2010. I’m not entireley sure, but it feels like it’s happening more
often with Outlook 2016. It could be though that this is the program I use
the most throughout the day and thus deal with this focus issue more often
because of it.

Is anyone else dealing with this problem and do they perhaps have a fix for
it that I’m maybe not aware of? That or is it another one of those Jaws
buggy issues? 

I do encounter this problem on two separate machines. A Dell desktop and HP
laptop. So I’m pretty certain it’s not a system specific issue.

Thanks.

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] April upgrade for Jaws 18

[Cristóbal]

Did the update on both a Win 10 Pro Dell desktop and Win 10 Home HP Envy
laptop with no issues. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] April upgrade for Jaws 18

>From her original post, Miriam has a 64-bit system. Thanks for this
encouraging word. However, I think like Miriam, my system is Win7. One
person wrote off-list to say his Win7 system is fine after the JAWS update.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] April upgrade for Jaws 18

Hi Adrian and Miriam,
I have updated both my W10 computers to the latest update of Jaws 18 with no
issues. Mirian, is your computer a 32 bit or a 64 bit pc?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] April upgrade for Jaws 18

Miriam, I'm sorry to be selfish, but have your post-download problems gone
away, or are you still experiencing them? I hesitate to update JAWS after
what you went through.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] April upgrade for Jaws 18

I downloaded it from the website.

Miriam

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] April upgrade for Jaws 18

Dear friend, download the latest Jaws from freedomscientific website and
remove your Jaws with share component and reinstall it!


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 3:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] April upgrade for Jaws 18

I am distraught. I naively went ahead when I saw that there was an April
upgrade for Jaws 18 and I upgraded. I used the correct upgrade, the one for
a 64 bit computer. I have Windows 7. So now I can't leave Outlook without
Jaws shutting down. I can't go to Documents. I can't go to a link in an
email to something on the internet. I can't go to another program. If I
leave Outlook, Jaws leaves me. The keystrokes for shutting down the computer
don't work. This has happened about five times within the past half hour. I
won't even be able to call FS to get help remotely because I won't be able
to move from where I am to the Jaws menu. I absolutely don't know what to do
under these circumstances. Has anyone had this experience with the new
upgrade? Does anyone have any suggestions?

Miriam


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[JAWS-Users] Windscribe VPN

[Cristóbal]

Anyone use Windscribe VPN? Saw there was a lifetime deal for unlimited
bandwidth and simultaneous logins. Any experience with screen reader
usability? In my case, Jaws.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on KNFB app for Windows

[Cristóbal]

The KNFB Windows app has a file explorer function where you can select a
file to perform OCR on. You can also save the OCR results into an
alternative format. 
Since it works  with scanners and cameras, and if you  want to review the
results in more detail than just having KNFBReader read everything back to
you in one stream, you can save the OCR results on to your computer.
The Jaws OCR function is ok for a quick check of things, but KNFBReader
gives a more detailed and accurate scan.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on KNFB app for Windows

Sorry to belabor this, and also to be catching up on messages in reverse
chronological order, but for inaccessible documents, you have JAWS' built-in
OCR feature. I guess using the KNFB Reader as a windows 10 app would save
the step of transferring files from the iPhone to the PC.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 12:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on KNFB app for Windows

It reads the inaccessible document already on the computer?

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on KNFB app for Windows

Kimsan,
I think, your pc's camera takes a picture and the knfb scans and reads any
type material.

I tried to download it, when it was only $20 and I got as far as the
personal info and credit card and jaws, then did nothing after that, so I
cancel and closed out after a 4 hour experience!
Jorge
PS-
Now, it cost $100, good on 10 pc's.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 1:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on KNFB app for Windows

My question is how do you use this blasted thing.

When I scan, do I place it on the keyboard? Or every time I am scanning I
need to have my scanner connected to it so I would need to place the paper
on the tray of the scanner??
It's 19.99 much easier on the phone vs the comp. lol Respectfully, Kimsan
Song kimsans...@icloud.com

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Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:22 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question on KNFB app for Windows

Hi Group,

Does anyone know how to make the KNFB app for windows read line by line?

All I have been able to figure out is how to stop the reading and start it
again using ctrl + P. If anyone has a list of short cut keys that would be
helpful too. I have looked online but have not found anything.

Mr. Ed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

[Cristóbal]

Just enable the PC cursor again by pressing the numpad plus button once  or
twice or Jaws key+semicolon if using the laptop keyboard layout. Then you
can arrow around like normal.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

Since my Open Book software has run away from home during my move, or may be
in a box placed above my head, I was hoping to get this for my
printer/scanner, however, Jaws turns on the touch cursor and when I tried to
buy the site locked up and after 30 minutes I had to turn off the computer
to get it to unlock.  Not a happy camper.  Especially since the sale is so
limited, already paid full price for the app on my phone which I can use but
I am not particularly handy with the camera.  

I like the app on my phone but there are times I'd rather used my scanner.  

Apparently I will have to pay another full price due to the limited nature
of this sale, drives me crazy, the Android app (I do not have an Android
device, was on sale for ever and ever.  I can afford the full price but, it
is annoying to have to pay that again when I did so in 2014.  Then they
started the half price occasional sales but I did not need to buy the app
again.  

Oh, well such is life.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lynn White
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 11:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 From what I can tell, it does a brilliant job of scanning.  I'm using a
Cannoscan.  I think that's what they're called.  The small portable scanner.


On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a
> KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a
webcam
> or a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as
an
> oCR solution.
>
> Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last
> month.
>
> Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or
if
> scans are comparable to K1000?
>
> Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch
> between programs and keyboard commands?
>
> If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard
> commands, I may still be interested.
>
> It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular
> price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app
>
>   
>
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[JAWS-Users] New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

[Cristóbal]

Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam
or a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an
oCR solution.

Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last
month. 

Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if
scans are comparable to K1000? 

Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch
between programs and keyboard commands? 

If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard
commands, I may still be interested. 

It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular
price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you add new contacts in outlook 2010?

[Cristóbal]

Also, from an open message of a person/email  you wish to add, get to the
from field, then use the context menu to go to the add to outlook contacts
option and once you click on it, you'll be taken to the prompts to enter all
relevant information.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 8:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you add new contacts in outlook 2010?

Jim:

I'm now using Outlook 2016, but I think the process for adding contacts was
the same for Outlook 2010.

Basically, I get into my address book via control shift B.  and then use my
Alt key to get into the menus.  Once in the menus, I up arrow several times
until I get to "add new entry".

I hit enter on that, and tab to add to contacts, and then to ok.

Then, I'm put into a group of tabs for the various entry fields, which I
then fill out as needed.

Then, at the very end of the tabs, I am put into a document field, which
contains the new contact information.  I then hit escape, and I am  asked if
I want to save my document, which actually is my new contact entry.  I arrow
to "yes", and am done.

I realize that this method is rather complicated, and much more difficult
than used to be the case with Outlook Express, but it seems to have worked
for me, and I have over 700 contacts in my address book.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan




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Behalf Of jimrawls
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 10:57 AM
To: jaws users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do you add new contacts in outlook 2010?

Can you do it in an open message? If not, how do I  do it?  I am running W10
and jaws 18. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Cristóbal]

Something similar used to happen to  me on an old laptop. Never could figure
out why, but it hasn't happened on any of my subsequent machines.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


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Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through 
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "Tom Behler" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
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Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

[Cristóbal]

No kidding. If  computers could talk, I'm sure my trusty going  on 6 year
old Dell Vostro would be  sayng something like.. What happened  to your
fancy shmancy Windows 10 desktop? What good is that I  Core 7 processor with
all that ram and  space to you now? Look at you, coming back to me  in your
time of need... Desktop's not doing so hot now is  it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi Cristóbal,

Sorry for that last question.  I should have realized that Microsoft 
Accessibility had no way of trying a system restore via safe mode with all 
the problems you were experiencing since they didn't have a snow balls 
chance of logging onto your computer!  That is surely 1 hell of a weird 
coincidence, the Windows update screw-up, & updating Jaws at the same time! 
Wow!  Like I said, glad you finally got it sorted out.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws


The wife  and I tried, but we couldn't get past a certain point.  Error
messages  to  check  the eventlog, volume shadow copy error, windows center
protection disabled and as the Internet  wasn't working either,  the tech
couldn't try to remote into  the machine.
Alls well that  ends  well I suppose.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi Cristóbal,

By any chance, did Microsoft Accessibility attempt a system restore?  I'm
just curious to know if this could have gotten you back-up & running again.
Sure glad you got it figured out though.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws


A final follow up to this issue.
I reached out to Microsoft Accessibility. After going over everything, they
suggested that it was most likely a Windows update that for whatever reason
went bad. We tried going into the update section of settings and it kept on
closing on me with all sorts of error messages.
The FS tech who I spoke to (Dennis I believe was his name) also mentioned
this as a possibility.
In any event, with my still working Windows 7 laptop, I downloaded a Windows
10 ISO, burned it to a DVD and popped it into the tower with my sighted wife
following the prompts to repair keeping my files and programs in tact.
This did the trick. It ran, rebooted a few times and is now up and
functioning as it should with all sounds and services running.
Thought I'd share should anyone ever come across a similar problem. Needless
to say, I'm going to keep a Win 10 recovery disk handy from now on.
Been using Jaws since V 3.7U and this is the first time I encountered an
issue such as disruptive as this during an update.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Both numbers work. The 800 number is toll-free for anyone still paying for
individual long-distance calls.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Howdy,

Freedom Scientific Tech Support: 1- 727-803-8600

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws


Can you call FS? 800-444-4443, follow the prompts. I think it's 2, then 1.
They'll be closing for the weekend pretty soon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came
up. However, my sighted wife says that there's an error message having to do

with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts,
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn't seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet eve

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

[Cristóbal]

The wife  and I tried, but we couldn't get past a certain point.  Error
messages  to  check  the eventlog, volume shadow copy error, windows center
protection disabled and as the Internet  wasn't working either,  the tech
couldn't try to remote into  the machine. 
Alls well that  ends  well I suppose.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi Cristóbal,

By any chance, did Microsoft Accessibility attempt a system restore?  I'm 
just curious to know if this could have gotten you back-up & running again. 
Sure glad you got it figured out though.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws


A final follow up to this issue.
I reached out to Microsoft Accessibility. After going over everything, they
suggested that it was most likely a Windows update that for whatever reason
went bad. We tried going into the update section of settings and it kept on
closing on me with all sorts of error messages.
The FS tech who I spoke to (Dennis I believe was his name) also mentioned
this as a possibility.
In any event, with my still working Windows 7 laptop, I downloaded a Windows
10 ISO, burned it to a DVD and popped it into the tower with my sighted wife
following the prompts to repair keeping my files and programs in tact.
This did the trick. It ran, rebooted a few times and is now up and
functioning as it should with all sounds and services running.
Thought I'd share should anyone ever come across a similar problem. Needless
to say, I'm going to keep a Win 10 recovery disk handy from now on.
Been using Jaws since V 3.7U and this is the first time I encountered an
issue such as disruptive as this during an update.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Both numbers work. The 800 number is toll-free for anyone still paying for
individual long-distance calls.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Howdy,

Freedom Scientific Tech Support: 1- 727-803-8600

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws


Can you call FS? 800-444-4443, follow the prompts. I think it's 2, then 1.
They'll be closing for the weekend pretty soon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came
up. However, my sighted wife says that there's an error message having to do

with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts,
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn't seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet even though this machine is
connected via an Ethernet cable.
I've checked online and even someone on one  of these lists recommended to
uninstall audiodrivers in the device manager, and restart, but this doesn't
seem as though it wouldn't work for me as again, I'm somehow no longer
connected to the Internet.
I also tried accessing system restore and am presented with an error message

having to do with the audio property profile not being loaded and  to check
the event log etc.
I've since tried rebooting and am again stuck on that original screen before

the desktop.
I wrote FS earlier, but who knows.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Crist says he started the process form the downloaded installer. From that
point of view, he did everything right.

Crist, if you and your wife can arrange it, I think you need to call FS
together. They need to know that installation of the current JAWS 18 caused
this nightmare, and they will be eager to help. I'm guessing you somehow
went into diagnostic mode instead of normal  startup. I did this once when
mes

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

[Cristóbal]

A final follow up to this issue.
I reached out to Microsoft Accessibility. After going over everything, they
suggested that it was most likely a Windows update that for whatever reason
went bad. We tried going into the update section of settings and it kept on
closing on me with all sorts of error messages.
The FS tech who I spoke to (Dennis I believe was his name) also mentioned
this as a possibility. 
In any event, with my still working Windows 7 laptop, I downloaded a Windows
10 ISO, burned it to a DVD and popped it into the tower with my sighted wife
following the prompts to repair keeping my files and programs in tact. 
This did the trick. It ran, rebooted a few times and is now up and
functioning as it should with all sounds and services running. 
Thought I'd share should anyone ever come across a similar problem. Needless
to say, I'm going to keep a Win 10 recovery disk handy from now on. 
Been using Jaws since V 3.7U and this is the first time I encountered an
issue such as disruptive as this during an update.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Both numbers work. The 800 number is toll-free for anyone still paying for
individual long-distance calls. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Howdy,

Freedom Scientific Tech Support: 1- 727-803-8600

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws


Can you call FS? 800-444-4443, follow the prompts. I think it's 2, then 1. 
They'll be closing for the weekend pretty soon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came 
up. However, my sighted wife says that there's an error message having to do

with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts, 
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn't seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet even though this machine is 
connected via an Ethernet cable.
I've checked online and even someone on one  of these lists recommended to 
uninstall audiodrivers in the device manager, and restart, but this doesn't 
seem as though it wouldn't work for me as again, I'm somehow no longer 
connected to the Internet.
I also tried accessing system restore and am presented with an error message

having to do with the audio property profile not being loaded and  to check 
the event log etc.
I've since tried rebooting and am again stuck on that original screen before

the desktop.
I wrote FS earlier, but who knows.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Crist says he started the process form the downloaded installer. From that 
point of view, he did everything right.

Crist, if you and your wife can arrange it, I think you need to call FS 
together. They need to know that installation of the current JAWS 18 caused 
this nightmare, and they will be eager to help. I'm guessing you somehow 
went into diagnostic mode instead of normal  startup. I did this once when 
messing around with the MSConfig file, and I needed sighted expertise to get

me out of it. My guess is that FS/VFO can do this for you.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi,
How did you update your Jaws? Did you go to the FS site and download the new

update or did you just click on the dialog box when Jaws loaded and click 
yes to update? Just curious.
Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

As I explained, the machine  doesn't boot all the way. So can't do anything 
beyond  this  screen.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Well, I spoke to FS support and they as I figured were stumped. What they
did suggest and what I'll probably do is to grab the drivers off Dell's
website and manually install them with a thumb drive since I for whatever
reason am not even getting an internet connection even though I'm hard wired
to the router. I'll deal with the internet thing later if I can get sound
back first.
I may even run down to BestBuy and buy a cheap external soundcard just to
see. So... Anyone have an suggestion on a cheap external sound card by the
way?
I might even try giving Microsoft accessibility a call over  the weekend.
The saga continues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Both numbers work. The 800 number is toll-free for anyone still paying for
individual long-distance calls. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Howdy,

Freedom Scientific Tech Support: 1- 727-803-8600

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws


Can you call FS? 800-444-4443, follow the prompts. I think it's 2, then 1. 
They'll be closing for the weekend pretty soon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came 
up. However, my sighted wife says that there's an error message having to do

with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts, 
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn't seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet even though this machine is 
connected via an Ethernet cable.
I've checked online and even someone on one  of these lists recommended to 
uninstall audiodrivers in the device manager, and restart, but this doesn't 
seem as though it wouldn't work for me as again, I'm somehow no longer 
connected to the Internet.
I also tried accessing system restore and am presented with an error message

having to do with the audio property profile not being loaded and  to check 
the event log etc.
I've since tried rebooting and am again stuck on that original screen before

the desktop.
I wrote FS earlier, but who knows.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Crist says he started the process form the downloaded installer. From that 
point of view, he did everything right.

Crist, if you and your wife can arrange it, I think you need to call FS 
together. They need to know that installation of the current JAWS 18 caused 
this nightmare, and they will be eager to help. I'm guessing you somehow 
went into diagnostic mode instead of normal  startup. I did this once when 
messing around with the MSConfig file, and I needed sighted expertise to get

me out of it. My guess is that FS/VFO can do this for you.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi,
How did you update your Jaws? Did you go to the FS site and download the new

update or did you just click on the dialog box when Jaws loaded and click 
yes to update? Just curious.
Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

As I explained, the machine  doesn't boot all the way. So can't do anything 
beyond  this  screen.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

I had this happen a few months back. My computer actually lost the sound 
drivers. I had to go into device manager, remove the audio drivers and then 
reboot. Upon

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came
up. However, my sighted wife says that there’s an error message having to do
with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts,
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn’t seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet even though this machine is
connected via an Ethernet cable.
I’ve checked online and even someone on one  of these lists recommended to
uninstall audiodrivers in the device manager, and restart, but this doesn’t
seem as though it wouldn’t work for me as again, I’m somehow no longer
connected to the Internet.
I also tried accessing system restore and am presented with an error message
having to do with the audio property profile not being loaded and  to check
the event log etc.
I’ve since tried rebooting and am again stuck on that original screen before
the desktop.
I wrote FS earlier, but who knows.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Crist says he started the process form the downloaded installer. From that
point of view, he did everything right.

Crist, if you and your wife can arrange it, I think you need to call FS
together. They need to know that installation of the current JAWS 18 caused
this nightmare, and they will be eager to help. I'm guessing you somehow
went into diagnostic mode instead of normal  startup. I did this once when
messing around with the MSConfig file, and I needed sighted expertise to get
me out of it. My guess is that FS/VFO can do this for you.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi,
How did you update your Jaws? Did you go to the FS site and download the new
update or did you just click on the dialog box when Jaws loaded and click
yes to update? Just curious.
Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

As I explained, the machine  doesn't boot all the way. So can't do anything
beyond  this  screen.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

I had this happen a few months back. My computer actually lost the sound
drivers. I had to go into device manager, remove the audio drivers and then
reboot. Upon reboot Windows installed some generic audio drivers that
worked. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hello list,

So I downloaded and updated the new jaws 18 release that was made available
today.

I first ran the update on my personal Win 7 Pro Dell laptop and everything
went as usual. Did the reboot and all was good. I'm writing this email on
that machine.

I waited for the business day to be over before doing the same on my Dell
Win 10 pro business desktop. Again, ran the downloaded installer, went
through the process and clicked on the ok button when I was prompted to
reboot.

However, on the desktop, I am not able to get to the actual desktop. Indeed,
there is absolutely no sound coming from my machine. The only way I know
what's going on is with my sighted wife's help. I get to the screen with
three buttons for connect to the Internet, ease of access and the power down
button. The connect to the Internet button is crossed out as if it hasn't
completed loading. The ease of access button is active, but even if I try to
start narrator, there is still no sound. My wife says that it looks like
Narrator turns on, but with no sound, there's nothing I can do. That and
since the desktop doesn't come up, I still can't get anywhere. The only
thing we're able to do is access the power button to either restart or shut
down the computer.

We've tried restarting and pressing the f12 button when that prompt comes up
briefly, but then I get a screen with options of a legacy boot and other
diagnostics options that I'm not familiar with.

As far as the sound goes, I've made sure and checked with both my USB
powered headphones and regular desktop speakers. There aren't even any
system sounds.

Don't  know  if even calling  FS would

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

[Cristóbal]

As I explained, the machine  doesn't boot all the way. So can't do anything
beyond  this  screen.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

I had this happen a few months back. My computer actually lost the sound
drivers. I had to go into device manager, remove the audio drivers and then
reboot. Upon reboot Windows installed some generic audio drivers that
worked. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hello list,

So I downloaded and updated the new jaws 18 release that was made available
today.

I first ran the update on my personal Win 7 Pro Dell laptop and everything
went as usual. Did the reboot and all was good. I’m writing this email on
that machine.

I waited for the business day to be over before doing the same on my Dell
Win 10 pro business desktop. Again, ran the downloaded installer, went
through the process and clicked on the ok button when I was prompted to
reboot.

However, on the desktop, I am not able to get to the actual desktop. Indeed,
there is absolutely no sound coming from my machine. The only way I know
what’s going on is with my sighted wife’s help. I get to the screen with
three buttons for connect to the Internet, ease of access and the power down
button. The connect to the Internet button is crossed out as if it hasn’t
completed loading. The ease of access button is active, but even if I try to
start narrator, there is still no sound. My wife says that it looks like
Narrator turns on, but with no sound, there’s nothing I can do. That and
since the desktop doesn’t come up, I still can’t get anywhere. The only
thing we’re able to do is access the power button to either restart or shut
down the computer.

We’ve tried restarting and pressing the f12 button when that prompt comes up
briefly, but then I get a screen with options of a legacy boot and other
diagnostics options that I’m not familiar with.

As far as the sound goes, I’ve made sure and checked with both my USB
powered headphones and regular desktop speakers. There aren’t even any
system sounds.

Don’t  know  if even calling  FS would be of any help since again, there’s
no  audible feedback  what so ever. Can’t even try a system restore since I
can’t get to  the desktop where everything’s fully loaded. NVDA doesn’t come
up either.

Any ideas?

I’m really at a loss.

 

Cristobal

 

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[JAWS-Users] Major computer issue after updating Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So I downloaded and updated the new jaws 18 release that was made available
today.

I first ran the update on my personal Win 7 Pro Dell laptop and everything
went as usual. Did the reboot and all was good. I’m writing this email on
that machine.

I waited for the business day to be over before doing the same on my Dell
Win 10 pro business desktop. Again, ran the downloaded installer, went
through the process and clicked on the ok button when I was prompted to
reboot.

However, on the desktop, I am not able to get to the actual desktop. Indeed,
there is absolutely no sound coming from my machine. The only way I know
what’s going on is with my sighted wife’s help. I get to the screen with
three buttons for connect to the Internet, ease of access and the power down
button. The connect to the Internet button is crossed out as if it hasn’t
completed loading. The ease of access button is active, but even if I try to
start narrator, there is still no sound. My wife says that it looks like
Narrator turns on, but with no sound, there’s nothing I can do. That and
since the desktop doesn’t come up, I still can’t get anywhere. The only
thing we’re able to do is access the power button to either restart or shut
down the computer.

We’ve tried restarting and pressing the f12 button when that prompt comes up
briefly, but then I get a screen with options of a legacy boot and other
diagnostics options that I’m not familiar with.

As far as the sound goes, I’ve made sure and checked with both my USB
powered headphones and regular desktop speakers. There aren’t even any
system sounds.

Don’t  know  if even calling  FS would be of any help since again, there’s
no  audible feedback  what so ever. Can’t even try a system restore since I
can’t get to  the desktop where everything’s fully loaded. NVDA doesn’t
come up either.

Any ideas?

I’m really at a loss.

 

Cristobal

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible password managers

[Cristóbal]

Probably going with either One Password or  LastPass. 
Reading reviews, one  comment as a drawback about onePassword is  that you have 
to log in multiple times. Is this an issue encountered by lots of folks? The 
less in the way the better.
Also, both these services seem to do more or less the same thing. Wondering why 
OnePassword is much more costly than LastPass?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 4:05 AM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible password managers

Hello,
I like Lastpass better than One Password. Lastpass is free to use on multiple 
devices or you can pay $12 a year for a premium subscription. Lastpass is also 
accessible on both Windows and iOS.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

> On Feb 17, 2017, at 12:27 AM, Negoslav Sabev <neg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Personally I like #1password. It's accessible on windows as well as on iOS.
> You can buy apps separately for both operating systems or you can pay for one 
> account monthly and use FREE on all supported  operating systems. 
> 
> https://1password.com. 
> 
> Negoslav Sabev
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2017, at 9:01 PM, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> Looking for an accessible password manager on both the Windows with Jaws and
>> iOS platforms if possible. Paid is fine.
>> 
>> I tried looking in the archives as I know this topic has come up before, but
>> it was quite difficult sifting through so many threads and posts to find
>> anything. Thanks,
>> 
>> Cristobal
>> 
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Accessible password managers

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Looking for an accessible password manager on both the Windows with Jaws and
iOS platforms if possible. Paid is fine.

I tried looking in the archives as I know this topic has come up before, but
it was quite difficult sifting through so many threads and posts to find
anything. Thanks,

Cristobal

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[JAWS-Users] Question on Outlook 2016 layout

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So I grabbed an Office 2016 license and am getting used to  it. For the most
part, Outlook 2010 which I was using previously and 2016 don’t seem
drastically different but there are a couple of things that  I’m trying to
figure out.

In prior versions of Outlook, when setting the reading pane to either right
or bottom, you could tab and shift+tab from the list view and message body.
Now, if I do that, all I get is two buttons that say all and unread. I can
get to the message body and back with the control+tab and shift+control+tab
and I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but  was curious if I was missing
something and if  there were a way to in fact get the old behavior back?

Same goes in the contacts tab. In Outlook 2010, I could highlight a contact
and tab down to the notes section to the notes section where in my case, I’d
have information such as address/telephone number or if it is a business
with  multiple locations, all addresses. I found  this to be faster than
actually  clicking on the contact and tabbing  all over the place for the
same information.

Now, it seems I have to open the contact and shift+tab to the notes button
and click on that to open the notes section. Again, is there a step to avoid
these extra steps and simply have the notes part show up as before?

These are the main two things  I’m noticing. Other stuff I’m more  or less
getting used to.

I’m running the latest JFW 18 on Windows 10 Pro.

Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

Do you have your account configured as imap or  pop3? That would  make a
difference. If pop3, then  it's something to do on your  particular set up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:46 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
>From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: J

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

If you're in Gmail's standard view, then there's  going  to be a button at
the top of the screen saying "Basic HTML view". Clicking  on  that  will
take  you to the  more  traditional and screen  reader  friendly layout.
Once there, you'll be able to search for and  find the drafts folder easily.
With the Jaws  insert+f7 or a simple  Jaws search  for Drafts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

Can you tell me how to access the gmail.com HTML page, and what I need to do
from there to change my e-mail view?

Thank you!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, Januar

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

[Cristóbal]

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


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Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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[JAWS-Users] Tradeoffs with Abby FineReader from Kurzweil 1000

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I have Kurzweil 1000 and am considering switching to Abby FineReader for my
desktop OCR needs. I’ve never really got use to the K1000 commands or
interface and a lot of the extras that K1000 offers simply aren’t of
interest to me. Included calculator, calendar, database look up, etc.

Like everyone else on these lists I imagine, my main interest is OCR
accuracy which from my understanding shouldn’t be a problem since K1000 and
OpenBook use the FineReader OCR engine anyway.

As a Jaws user, I am also interested to know of any possible issues or
drawbacks/compromises one might encounter when using Abby FineReader as
opposed to K1000.

Between my iPhone with a ScanStand and the Jaws OCR feature I find myself
using or needing a standalone desktop solution less and less, but for those
times I do need one or wish to use for more involved scans, I’d like to be
able to use something where I don’t have to remember a completely different
set of other commands and settings like in K1000.

I am using JFW 18 on both Windows 10 and 7 computers.

Any feedback would be appreciated. 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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