Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge Inquiry

2018-05-31 Thread Steve
Edge is the new browser which aims to replace Internet Explorer.  It is on 
the Windows 10 operating system, although you can go into your defauolt 
programs with Windows-Key and the letter I, and make Internet Explorer your 
default browser if you want.
While the newest Jaws version works fairly well with Edge, there are still 
things you can't do that you can with Internet Explorer, or Google Chrome.
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Evening all.

I recently did an update on my Dell laptop. After the updates were 
completed and JAWS resumed speaking, it mentioned something about 
Microsoft Edge. Can anyone tell me what MS Edge is or does? Thanks.


Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge Inquiry

2018-05-31 Thread jyandt.martin
Evening all.

I recently did an update on my Dell laptop. After the updates were completed 
and JAWS resumed speaking, it mentioned something about Microsoft Edge. Can 
anyone tell me what MS Edge is or does? Thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2018-05-26 Thread chris judge
Thanks for this, tat was driving me batty.

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Kevin Lee
Sent: May 25, 2018 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Having problems with Jaws announceing too much in Edge such as:
entering navigation, exiting navigation, entering search, exiting search, 
entering form, exiting form, etc here’s how to fix this so it works like other 
browsers:

turn off the automatic notification of web page positions in Microsoft Edge 
with the following steps. 

1.  Open the Microsoft Edge browser. 
2.  Press Insert+6, (the 6 on the alphabetic keypad’s number row), to open 
the “JAWS Settings Center”. 
3.  Press the down arrow, and then press the letter “s” to go to the Speech 
Verbosity tree view item, and press the right arrow to open it. 
4.  Press the down arrow once, and note which verbosity level you are 
using. 
5.  Press the down arrow again to “Configure Verbosity Levels”, and press 
the right arrow to open it. 
6.  Press the down arrow until you reach the verbosity level you are using 
and press the Spacebar to open the “Preferences” dialog box. 
7.  Press the down arrow until you reach the “Position Information” 
setting, press the Spacebar to uncheck it, and press Enter to close the dialog 
box. 
8.  Press the Enter key again to save the setting and close the “Setting 
Center”.
After closing settings center, jaws will ask if you want to save the changes 
you’ve made!
Wah lah!
E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2018-05-25 Thread Kevin Lee
Having problems with Jaws announceing too much in Edge such as:
entering navigation, exiting navigation, entering search, exiting search, 
entering form, exiting form, etc
here’s how to fix this so it works like other browsers:

turn off the automatic notification of web page positions in Microsoft Edge 
with the following steps. 

1.  Open the Microsoft Edge browser. 
2.  Press Insert+6, (the 6 on the alphabetic keypad’s number row), to open 
the “JAWS Settings Center”. 
3.  Press the down arrow, and then press the letter “s” to go to the Speech 
Verbosity tree view item, and press the right arrow to open it. 
4.  Press the down arrow once, and note which verbosity level you are 
using. 
5.  Press the down arrow again to “Configure Verbosity Levels”, and press 
the right arrow to open it. 
6.  Press the down arrow until you reach the verbosity level you are using 
and press the Spacebar to open the “Preferences” dialog box. 
7.  Press the down arrow until you reach the “Position Information” 
setting, press the Spacebar to uncheck it, and press Enter to close the dialog 
box. 
8.  Press the Enter key again to save the setting and close the “Setting 
Center”.
After closing settings center, jaws will ask if you want to save the changes 
you’ve made!
Wah lah!
E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2018-01-01 Thread Kevin

I've never come across enable support what would that do?
I have seen gives us feedback!

-Original Message- 
From: Star Gazer

Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

I think I am all set, but just to be sure, can
someone give me step by step instructions on how I get to the settings? I
found settings but could *not* find enable support, I found a bunch of stuff
for themes, passwords, search engines, but nothing that would get me on the
path to support.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

try pressing F7
that was needed when running Edge in 16 07 not sure which build of windows
10 you are using but it is said the free screenreader NVDA works very well
with Edge

-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Thank you Kevin.
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it.
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2018-01-01 Thread Jason White
I'm running Windows 10 version 1709 and JAWS 2018. There was no need to
change any setting here for Edge to be supported by JAWS.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

I think I am all set, but just to be sure, can
someone give me step by step instructions on how I get to the settings? I
found settings but could *not* find enable support, I found a bunch of stuff
for themes, passwords, search engines, but nothing that would get me on the
path to support. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

try pressing F7
that was needed when running Edge in 16 07 not sure which build of windows
10 you are using but it is said the free screenreader NVDA works very well
with Edge

-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Thank you Kevin.
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it.
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2018-01-01 Thread Star Gazer
I think I am all set, but just to be sure, can
someone give me step by step instructions on how I get to the settings? I
found settings but could *not* find enable support, I found a bunch of stuff
for themes, passwords, search engines, but nothing that would get me on the
path to support. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

try pressing F7
that was needed when running Edge in 16 07 not sure which build of windows
10 you are using but it is said the free screenreader NVDA works very well
with Edge

-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Thank you Kevin.
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it.
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread JM Casey
You should get Adobe Reader or Acrobat to open it, or some third party
programme that's independent of your browser. The PDF browser add-ons are
not really ideal. Adobe has pretty nice screen-reader support built in,
although if the file is really large I recommend reading with something like
Qread, since Adobe takes forever to open and process large files even on a
nice system.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: December 31, 2017 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Thank you Kevin. 
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it. 
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread Mike B.
Hi,

Here's another way to make IE11 the default browser:

From: Carlos
1. Press Windows key+I, tab 1 time to, System, down arrow to, Apps, & press 
enter.
2. Tab 1 time to the Apps list, down arrow to, Default Apps, & press enter.

3. Tab to, Web Browser, and press Enter.
4. Tab until you find, Internet Explorer, and press Enter.  Internet 
Explorer should now be configured as the default browser.
  Carlos

- Original Message - 
From: Star Gazer
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?


Thank you Kevin.
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it.
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread ilovecountrymusic483
Hi,

One thing to note.  If you are usking jaws 18 and you find that jaws is not
readiing in edge, make sure that edge support is enabled in the settings
center.  If it is not enabled it will not work.  If you can try jfw 2018 as
it miht work better for you.

Matthew



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread rosecombs52
Also under the Default settings, insert F6, then control shift D, there is a
setting that needs to be turned on for Edge, I did this once but can't
remember its exact name.  I still dislike Edge and set my default to I.E.
For a screen reader, regardless of the hype, Edge is horrible.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Thank you Kevin. 
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it. 
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread rosecombs52
NVDA does not work with a more than 10-year-old Focus 80 I bought more than
10 years ago, thus I don't wish to spend a load of time fussing trying to
read all the tables in the manual I can't keep my fingers on.  It may work
with Edge, it may not.  Microsoft should make it work out of the box, since
they tout it so much and this should have been done on release of Windows 10
not over two years later.  


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

try pressing F7
that was needed when running Edge in 16 07 not sure which build of windows
10 you are using but it is said the free screenreader NVDA works very well
with Edge

-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Thank you Kevin.
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it.
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread Kevin

try pressing F7
that was needed when running Edge in 16 07
not sure which build of windows 10 you are using
but it is said the free screenreader NVDA works very well with Edge

-Original Message- 
From: Star Gazer

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Thank you Kevin.
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it.
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread Star Gazer
Thank you Kevin. 
Upon closer inspection, the file I was looking at is a pdf file that
Microsoft Edge opened automatically when I clicked on it. 
How do I get JFW to read Microsoft edge or do I need to let Adobe play with
it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab
to make default you can also do this in windows settings win key + i when
windows says find a setting type default and press enter enter on default
app settings follow the prompts


-Original Message-
From: Star Gazer
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread Kevin
IE should automatically prompt you that it is not the default browser when 
you launch.  in case it doesn't it's in the advanced settings of IE, with IE 
open alt key to tools, select internet options.  alt + tab to advanced tab 
to make default

you can also do this in windows settings
win key + i
when windows says find a setting
type default and press enter
enter on default app settings
follow the prompts


-Original Message- 
From: Star Gazer

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

Hi folks,
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft edge?

2017-12-31 Thread Star Gazer
Hi folks, 
Microsoft edge seems to by my default viewer for just about everything. This
would be fine except that I can't seem to make JFW 18 read content. How do I
do this, or how do I make internet explorer by my default?



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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-12-09 Thread Michael
Hi.  I sent a message to the list a couple of days ago explaining that I
made a bill payment online using Microsoft Edge using the most current
version of Jaws and didn't receive a response.  No wonder, I forgot to
reenable my membership.  Anyway, I've been off the list for over six weeks
or so.  

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

2017-11-12 Thread john_justice
Now that is smart!  I like that approach.  Notepad is so simple that all it
would leave would be the text.  Definitely a keeper.
Thanks.


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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Thanks for that great tip.  I haven't used Edge yet but when I copy material
from a website that I want to keep as a Word doc I paste it into Notepad
first and that strips away a lot of the web features and tools and then I
copy and paste from Notepad into a Word doc.

Wayne


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

2017-11-11 Thread LeDon
I think that you may be wrong saying that copying anything in Edge was
impossible. I haven't tried it but try this. Type jaws key spacebar, shift,
H to clear speech history. Then read what you wish to copy. Then press jaws
key, space bar, H to get your speech history. There it may be. Copy that and
you have it. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Copiying anything from MSEdge is not possible with any screen reader!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

What version works with edge.  Is it 2018?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:15 AM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

2017-11-11 Thread JM Casey
That's very interesting. Nice work, even though I've avoided Edge up until
this point (very happy with Firefox, but we'll see what happens after the
Quantum rollout I guess).

So which keystroke is JAWS interfering with, I wonder? You had to unload
JAWS for this to actually work; these are normal windows keystrokes though
that should work whether JAWS is loaded or not. I wonder



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Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: November 11, 2017 9:15 AM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

2017-11-11 Thread wayne smith
Thanks for that great tip.  I haven't used Edge yet but when I copy material
from a website that I want to keep as a Word doc I paste it into Notepad
first and that strips away a lot of the web features and tools and then I
copy and paste from Notepad into a Word doc.

Wayne


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

2017-11-11 Thread Inam Uddin
Copiying anything from MSEdge is not possible with any screen reader!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

What version works with edge.  Is it 2018?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:15 AM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

2017-11-11 Thread Justin Williams
What version works with edge.  Is it 2018?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:15 AM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

2017-11-11 Thread Rebecca Lineberger
Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-13 Thread Tom Fairhurst
I must agree here. The Microsoft accessibility desk helped me with my 
installation of Office 365. I couldn't  open Excel files. Ultimately, they 
completely reinstalled Office 365, and it works much better now. It took a 
good hour, but they were very helpful throughout the process.


-Original Message- 
From: crystallo...@ca.inter.net

Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always
prefered PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount
of choice available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use
Edge and want it to work for them, but the truth is that you don't
have to use Microsoft's products if they dont' make you happy. Firefox
is still a great browser and it's fully supported in JAWS. Chrome
works beautifully nowadays when three years ago that wasn't at all the
case. Don't be afraid of choice. Embrace it. Nobody has to use Edge
and because of the nature of the WWW, that will never be the case. I
think Microsoft is a lot better with accessibility concerns now than
they used to be. Its' not perfect, but that's something we should at
least be somewhat accustomed to by now. Remember when Windows 3.1 came
out, and everyone was using it except for blind people because of how
crap the screen reader support was at the time?

And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're
doing a lot to improve it with every update. I can understand why
Office is an accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there
just isn't really a great replacement for mS office out there; there's
a good reason most of the working world still uses it. Edge is just
one browser among several.

Quoting Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com>:


I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating
Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check
dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works
very very well.
It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how
I was able to get the latest update.
I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365
subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under
the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser,
but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making
their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their
Windows and Office products.



On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good
accessibility teasers,but that is all.

I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is the 
one

good thing, but not enough.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk 
and

nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they
could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and 
say

no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they
did
with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk 
like

a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier
said than done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft
has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:

Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one
using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not
truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company
who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to
believe they really do consider screen readers along with
magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left out
again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 for
example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 years, eye

candy, that is why!




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft
Edge is expected to be available soon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from wha

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws users Microsoft Edge

2017-07-11 Thread JM Casey
Sounds like a lot of trouble to go through. And using iE toowhy not
choose Firefox?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Massey
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws users Microsoft Edge

Hi, Judy.  As Debby and others have posted, Jaws is not yet accessible with
Edge.  I did use Edge with Narrator to pay a bill online using my bank's
website and its bill pay service.  I also tried using Nvda on another
website and gave up, then I used I E and completed my task, smile.  I am not
saying that I haven't used Nvda before today because I used it a few weeks
ago using Edge to log into my bank's website as well.  Oh, and when I used
Edge and Narrator to navigate my bank's website, I had to use the tab key to
get to the buttons I needed to press.  I guess I'd better learn some
Narrator key commands to better access the various links and buttons, smile.


 

Mike M. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-11 Thread JM Casey
Fernando.
I agree with you about Office. Although I'm still using an older version here, 
I was quite impressed with the ongoing developments in Office 2016 and screen 
reader interaction experienced at my previous workplace.

Was just wondering though...you wrote:
"they're making change to non-microsoft alternatives harder than it was in the 
past,"
Can you explain this?

Cheers.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I mostly agree. However, it's true that although you can still choose which 
Microsoft or non-Microsoft products to use, they're making change to 
non-microsoft alternatives harder than it was in the past, with no mention to 
the limitations imposed in Windows 10 S.
Regarding Office accessibility, it's also nice to have many tutorials for 
accomplishing various tasks by using a screen reader. The Office Accessibility 
Center addresses a lot of concerns on this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of crystallo...@ca.inter.net
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always prefered 
PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount of choice 
available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use Edge and want it to 
work for them, but the truth is that you don't have to use Microsoft's products 
if they dont' make you happy. Firefox is still a great browser and it's fully 
supported in JAWS. Chrome works beautifully nowadays when three years ago that 
wasn't at all the case. Don't be afraid of choice. Embrace it. Nobody has to 
use Edge and because of the nature of the WWW, that will never be the case. I 
think Microsoft is a lot better with accessibility concerns now than they used 
to be. Its' not perfect, but that's something we should at least be somewhat 
accustomed to by now. Remember when Windows 3.1 came out, and everyone was 
using it except for blind people because of how crap the screen reader support 
was at the time?

And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're doing a lot 
to improve it with every update. I can understand why Office is an 
accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there just isn't really a 
great replacement for mS office out there; there's a good reason most of the 
working world still uses it. Edge is just one browser among several.

Quoting Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com>:

> I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating 
> Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check 
> dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works 
> very very well.
> It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how 
> I was able to get the latest update.
> I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365 
> subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under 
> the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
> I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser, 
> but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making 
> their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their 
> Windows and Office products.
>
>
>
> On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good 
>> accessibility teasers,but that is all.
>>
>> I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is 
>> the one good thing, but not enough.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given 
>> talk and nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like 
>> Macs do they could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the 
>> Edge browser and say no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with 
>> vfo and Office like they did with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or 
>> keep from making computers talk like a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, 
>> shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier said than done.
>>
>> Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. 
>> Microsoft has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>&

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-10 Thread Fernando Gregoire
I mostly agree. However, it's true that although you can still choose which 
Microsoft or non-Microsoft products to use, they're making change to 
non-microsoft alternatives harder than it was in the past, with no mention to 
the limitations imposed in Windows 10 S.
Regarding Office accessibility, it's also nice to have many tutorials for 
accomplishing various tasks by using a screen reader. The Office Accessibility 
Center addresses a lot of concerns on this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of crystallo...@ca.inter.net
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always prefered 
PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount of choice 
available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use Edge and want it to 
work for them, but the truth is that you don't have to use Microsoft's products 
if they dont' make you happy. Firefox is still a great browser and it's fully 
supported in JAWS. Chrome works beautifully nowadays when three years ago that 
wasn't at all the case. Don't be afraid of choice. Embrace it. Nobody has to 
use Edge and because of the nature of the WWW, that will never be the case. I 
think Microsoft is a lot better with accessibility concerns now than they used 
to be. Its' not perfect, but that's something we should at least be somewhat 
accustomed to by now. Remember when Windows 3.1 came out, and everyone was 
using it except for blind people because of how crap the screen reader support 
was at the time?

And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're doing a lot 
to improve it with every update. I can understand why Office is an 
accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there just isn't really a 
great replacement for mS office out there; there's a good reason most of the 
working world still uses it. Edge is just one browser among several.

Quoting Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com>:

> I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating 
> Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check 
> dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works 
> very very well.
> It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how 
> I was able to get the latest update.
> I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365 
> subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under 
> the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
> I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser, 
> but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making 
> their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their 
> Windows and Office products.
>
>
>
> On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good 
>> accessibility teasers,but that is all.
>>
>> I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is 
>> the one good thing, but not enough.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given 
>> talk and nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like 
>> Macs do they could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the 
>> Edge browser and say no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with 
>> vfo and Office like they did with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or 
>> keep from making computers talk like a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, 
>> shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier said than done.
>>
>> Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. 
>> Microsoft has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every 
>>> one using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and 
>>> still not truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This 
>>> from company who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am 
>>> supposed to believe they really do consider screen readers along 
>>> with magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left 
>>> out again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-10 Thread Michael Massey
No, Dennis, it didn't come out yet.  Please check the help setting in Jaws
18.  



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Did the July jaws 18 come out yet?  I heard on a FS cast that that update
was going to have edge support.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I haven't tried it with the newest Jaws 18 yet, but it does work decently
with NVDA.

- Original Message -
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge


> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is 
> it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-10 Thread Rose
I find it very annoying that Microsoft concentrates of dyslexia, visual
disability if one can actually see and magnify the screen and expects one to
use Narrator for Edge after nearly two years of Windows 10 which keeps
changing keystrokes to do much of anything.  If this is complete
accessibility then it is a crying shame.  Last said on the subject.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk and
nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they
could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and say
no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they did
with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk like
a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier
said than done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft
has the money and the ability to do anything they wish. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one
using
> Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not truly
> accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company who
claims
> to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to believe they
really
> do consider screen readers along with magnification but truly, totally
blind
> people are being left out again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or
> Outlook 2016 for example, why did they break what has worked for the past
20
> years, eye candy, that is why!  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft Edge is
> expected to be available soon.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi Judy,
> 
> Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are not
> ready to play together. 
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Debby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
> accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-10 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Not yet, although @FreedomSci Twitter handle says it'll be ready in a few
days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 6:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Did the July jaws 18 come out yet?  I heard on a FS cast that that update
was going to have edge support.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I haven't tried it with the newest Jaws 18 yet, but it does work decently
with NVDA.

- Original Message -
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge


> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is 
> it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-10 Thread Dennis Long
Did the July jaws 18 come out yet?  I heard on a FS cast that that update
was going to have edge support.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I haven't tried it with the newest Jaws 18 yet, but it does work decently
with NVDA.

- Original Message -
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge


> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
> accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-10 Thread Tom Behler
Regarding the spell check when using Word 2016, I do agree that the ability
to access the functions via the tab key is quite convenient.

It took me a while to figure out the change between Word 2010 and Word 2016,
but the tab key navigation feature is really nice.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating Word
2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check dialog are
now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works very very well.
It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how I was
able to get the latest update.
I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365
subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under the
file tab and attempt to check for updates.
I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser, but I
believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making their plans
known to incrementally improve accessibility of their Windows and Office
products.



On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good 
> accessibility teasers,but that is all.
>
> I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is 
> the one good thing, but not enough.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>
> It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk 
> and nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do 
> they could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge 
> browser and say no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo 
> and Office like they did with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep 
> from making computers talk like a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut 
> up and get a mac!" My reply, easier said than done.
>
> Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. 
> Microsoft has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every 
>> one using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still 
>> not truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from 
>> company who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am 
>> supposed to believe they really do consider screen readers along with 
>> magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left out 
>> again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 for 
>> example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 years, 
>> eye
> candy, that is why!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jason White
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft 
>> Edge is expected to be available soon.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Debby
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> Hi Judy,
>>
>> Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are 
>> not ready to play together.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Debby
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Judy
>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is 
>> it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.c

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-10 Thread David Ferrin
Thank you, I will add this pod cast to my collection. I have several of 
yours already.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi,
The only thing I can offer you at this stage is a teaser and an audio guide:
http://www.josephsl.net/files/WinTen%2016232.mp3

There will come a time when some of you will say, "I wish I was a Windows
Insider".
As for what I mean by this and more info about the link I posted, please
write to me offlist.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of crystallo...@ca.inter.net
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 7:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always
prefered PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount of
choice available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use Edge and
want it to work for them, but the truth is that you don't have to use
Microsoft's products if they dont' make you happy. Firefox is still a great
browser and it's fully supported in JAWS. Chrome works beautifully nowadays
when three years ago that wasn't at all the case. Don't be afraid of choice.
Embrace it. Nobody has to use Edge and because of the nature of the WWW,
that will never be the case. I think Microsoft is a lot better with
accessibility concerns now than they used to be. Its' not perfect, but
that's something we should at least be somewhat accustomed to by now.
Remember when Windows 3.1 came out, and everyone was using it except for
blind people because of how crap the screen reader support was at the time?

And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're doing a
lot to improve it with every update. I can understand why Office is an
accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there just isn't really a
great replacement for mS office out there; there's a good reason most of the
working world still uses it. Edge is just one browser among several.

Quoting Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com>:


I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating
Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check
dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works
very very well.
It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how
I was able to get the latest update.
I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365
subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under
the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser,
but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making
their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their
Windows and Office products.



On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good
accessibility teasers,but that is all.

I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is
the one good thing, but not enough.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given
talk and nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like
Macs do they could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the
Edge browser and say no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with
vfo and Office like they did with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or
keep from making computers talk like a Mac. So one could say "Chuck,
shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier said than done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject.
Microsoft has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:

Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every
one using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and
still not truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This
from company who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am
supposed to believe they really do consider screen readers along
with magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left
out again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016
for example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20
years, eye

candy, that is why!




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

According to an interview on

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Steve
I haven't tried it with the newest Jaws 18 yet, but it does work decently 
with NVDA.


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge



Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby







For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
The only thing I can offer you at this stage is a teaser and an audio guide:
http://www.josephsl.net/files/WinTen%2016232.mp3

There will come a time when some of you will say, "I wish I was a Windows
Insider".
As for what I mean by this and more info about the link I posted, please
write to me offlist.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of crystallo...@ca.inter.net
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 7:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always
prefered PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount of
choice available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use Edge and
want it to work for them, but the truth is that you don't have to use
Microsoft's products if they dont' make you happy. Firefox is still a great
browser and it's fully supported in JAWS. Chrome works beautifully nowadays
when three years ago that wasn't at all the case. Don't be afraid of choice.
Embrace it. Nobody has to use Edge and because of the nature of the WWW,
that will never be the case. I think Microsoft is a lot better with
accessibility concerns now than they used to be. Its' not perfect, but
that's something we should at least be somewhat accustomed to by now.
Remember when Windows 3.1 came out, and everyone was using it except for
blind people because of how crap the screen reader support was at the time?

And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're doing a
lot to improve it with every update. I can understand why Office is an
accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there just isn't really a
great replacement for mS office out there; there's a good reason most of the
working world still uses it. Edge is just one browser among several.

Quoting Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com>:

> I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating 
> Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check 
> dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works 
> very very well.
> It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how 
> I was able to get the latest update.
> I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365 
> subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under 
> the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
> I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser, 
> but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making 
> their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their 
> Windows and Office products.
>
>
>
> On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good 
>> accessibility teasers,but that is all.
>>
>> I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is 
>> the one good thing, but not enough.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given 
>> talk and nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like 
>> Macs do they could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the 
>> Edge browser and say no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with 
>> vfo and Office like they did with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or 
>> keep from making computers talk like a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, 
>> shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier said than done.
>>
>> Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. 
>> Microsoft has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every 
>>> one using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and 
>>> still not truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This 
>>> from company who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am 
>>> supposed to believe they really do consider screen readers along 
>>> with magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left 
>>> out again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 
>>> for example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 
>>> years, eye
>> candy, that is why!
&g

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread crystallogic
I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always  
prefered PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount  
of choice available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use  
Edge and want it to work for them, but the truth is that you don't  
have to use Microsoft's products if they dont' make you happy. Firefox  
is still a great browser and it's fully supported in JAWS. Chrome  
works beautifully nowadays when three years ago that wasn't at all the  
case. Don't be afraid of choice. Embrace it. Nobody has to use Edge  
and because of the nature of the WWW, that will never be the case. I  
think Microsoft is a lot better with accessibility concerns now than  
they used to be. Its' not perfect, but that's something we should at  
least be somewhat accustomed to by now. Remember when Windows 3.1 came  
out, and everyone was using it except for blind people because of how  
crap the screen reader support was at the time?


And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're  
doing a lot to improve it with every update. I can understand why  
Office is an accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there  
just isn't really a great replacement for mS office out there; there's  
a good reason most of the working world still uses it. Edge is just  
one browser among several.


Quoting Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com>:


I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating
Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check
dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works
very very well.
It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how
I was able to get the latest update.
I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365
subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under
the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser,
but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making
their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their
Windows and Office products.



On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good
accessibility teasers,but that is all.

I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is the one
good thing, but not enough.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk and
nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they
could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and say
no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they
did
with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk like
a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier
said than done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft
has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:

Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one
using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not
truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company
who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to
believe they really do consider screen readers along with
magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left out
again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 for
example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 years, eye

candy, that is why!




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft
Edge is expected to be available soon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are
not ready to play together.

Have fun!

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is
it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby







For answe

Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Jim Fettgather
I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating
Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check
dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works
very very well.
It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how
I was able to get the latest update.
I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365
subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under
the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser,
but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making
their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their
Windows and Office products.



On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good
> accessibility teasers,but that is all.
>
> I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is the one
> good thing, but not enough.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Charles Adkins
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>
> It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk and
> nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they
> could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and say
> no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they
> did
> with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk like
> a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier
> said than done.
>
> Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft
> has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one
>> using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not
>> truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company
>> who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to
>> believe they really do consider screen readers along with
>> magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left out
>> again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 for
>> example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 years, eye
> candy, that is why!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jason White
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft
>> Edge is expected to be available soon.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Debby
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> Hi Judy,
>>
>> Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are
>> not ready to play together.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Debby
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Judy
>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is
>> it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Judy Jones
I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good
accessibility teasers,but that is all.

I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is the one
good thing, but not enough.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk and
nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they
could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and say
no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they did
with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk like
a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier
said than done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft
has the money and the ability to do anything they wish. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one 
> using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not 
> truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company 
> who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to 
> believe they really do consider screen readers along with 
> magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left out 
> again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 for 
> example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 years, eye
candy, that is why!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft 
> Edge is expected to be available soon.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi Judy,
> 
> Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are 
> not ready to play together.
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Debby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is 
> it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Judy
Fernando and all who've answered my question, 

Since I still have Win 7 and don't intend to upgrade until I have to, you
all have convinced me to stay with firefox and Chrome. I don't need any more
frustration in my life than I already have. (grin)  Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi Judy,
Edge's accessibility layer has enhanced a little bit since Windows 10 build
10240, but it's still too far even from IE, even using Narrator.
Specifically for JAWS, unlike NVDA JAWS does not provide Virtual Cursor
Support in Edge's browsing area nor any UWP app using the Edge rendering
engine other than Mail. Therefore, the only way to use Edge content, which
is not convenient, is to use the JAWS Touch Cursor, preferably with Advanced
Object Navigation enabled.
NVDA is enhancing its Edge support a lot from version to version, but even
they still warns of the fact that Edge's reliability with screen readers is
far from the expected for everyday browsing.
Despite poorness of Edge's accessibility layer, I think it's time for
Freedom Scientific to bring at least a minimum support for Edge browser and
engine, as UWP apps and Cortana use this engine even when you set another
default browser. Redirecting Cortana's web search results to other browser
when JAWS is running is not the best solution, especially when searching for
local content.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Jason White
Microsoft have been improving the accessibility of their setup process
lately. I was recently able to configure a new laptop (out of the box,
literally) using Narrator all the way up to the point of installing JAWS,
without any assistance.

Linux and Mac users (I'm in both categories) have been able to do this for a
long time now. Microsoft is catching up, however, and the third-party screen
reader solutions available for the Windows environment are very rich in
features - more so than you'll find elsewhere.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 3:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk and
nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they
could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and say
no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they did
with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk like
a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier
said than done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft
has the money and the ability to do anything they wish. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one 
> using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not 
> truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company 
> who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to 
> believe they really do consider screen readers along with 
> magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left out 
> again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 for 
> example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 years, eye
candy, that is why!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft 
> Edge is expected to be available soon.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi Judy,
> 
> Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are 
> not ready to play together.
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Debby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is 
> it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Fernando Gregoire
Hi Judy,
Edge's accessibility layer has enhanced a little bit since Windows 10 build 
10240, but it's still too far even from IE, even using Narrator.
Specifically for JAWS, unlike NVDA JAWS does not provide Virtual Cursor Support 
in Edge's browsing area nor any UWP app using the Edge rendering engine other 
than Mail. Therefore, the only way to use Edge content, which is not 
convenient, is to use the JAWS Touch Cursor, preferably with Advanced Object 
Navigation enabled.
NVDA is enhancing its Edge support a lot from version to version, but even they 
still warns of the fact that Edge's reliability with screen readers is far from 
the expected for everyday browsing.
Despite poorness of Edge's accessibility layer, I think it's time for Freedom 
Scientific to bring at least a minimum support for Edge browser and engine, as 
UWP apps and Cortana use this engine even when you set another default browser. 
Redirecting Cortana's web search results to other browser when JAWS is running 
is not the best solution, especially when searching for local content.

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Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Charles Adkins
It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk and 
nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they could 
make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and say no more. 
I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they did with 
Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk like a Mac. 
So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier said than 
done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft has 
the money and the ability to do anything they wish. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one using
> Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not truly
> accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company who claims
> to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to believe they really
> do consider screen readers along with magnification but truly, totally blind
> people are being left out again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or
> Outlook 2016 for example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20
> years, eye candy, that is why!  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft Edge is
> expected to be available soon.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi Judy,
> 
> Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are not
> ready to play together. 
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Debby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
> 
> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
> accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws users Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Michael Massey
Hi, Judy.  As Debby and others have posted, Jaws is not yet accessible with
Edge.  I did use Edge with Narrator to pay a bill online using my bank's
website and its bill pay service.  I also tried using Nvda on another
website and gave up, then I used I E and completed my task, smile.  I am not
saying that I haven't used Nvda before today because I used it a few weeks
ago using Edge to log into my bank's website as well.  Oh, and when I used
Edge and Narrator to navigate my bank's website, I had to use the tab key to
get to the buttons I needed to press.  I guess I'd better learn some
Narrator key commands to better access the various links and buttons, smile.


 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Judy Jones
Ihave heard that it works well with NVDA, but how well, I do not know, and
have not yet tried it out.

Judy Jones


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Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are not
ready to play together. 

Have fun!

Debby

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Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Judy Jones
I would like to hear about this as well.

Judy Jones


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Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Rose
Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one using
Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not truly
accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company who claims
to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to believe they really
do consider screen readers along with magnification but truly, totally blind
people are being left out again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or
Outlook 2016 for example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20
years, eye candy, that is why!  



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According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft Edge is
expected to be available soon.

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Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are not
ready to play together. 

Have fun!

Debby

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Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
There was a whole thread devoted to this on another list, with the consensus
being that it isn't ready for JAWS users but is coming along nicely. A few
days ago someone posted a tutorial on Microsoft Edge with another screen
reader.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are not
ready to play together. 

Have fun!

Debby

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Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Jason White
According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft Edge is
expected to be available soon.

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are not
ready to play together. 

Have fun!

Debby

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Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Debby
Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are not
ready to play together. 

Have fun!

Debby

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Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

2017-07-09 Thread Judy
Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is it
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Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

2016-12-09 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Unfortunately, using touch cursor is the most effective way to navigate Edge 
and other universal apps for now.
Cheers,
Joseph

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don't like the touch features!

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

Hi,
To use Edge with JAWS, use of touch cursor is essential.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:07 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

the broser is still in no way accessible I press tab and nothing happens I 
press the alt key and nothing happens the insert plus f7 f6 or f5 doesn’t work.
someone on this list or the windows 10 list said it is accessible I ask how!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

2016-12-09 Thread Kevin

don't like the touch features!

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From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:47 PM
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Hi,
To use Edge with JAWS, use of touch cursor is essential.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:07 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

the broser is still in no way accessible I press tab and nothing happens I 
press the alt key and nothing happens the insert plus f7 f6 or f5 doesn’t 
work.

someone on this list or the windows 10 list said it is accessible I ask how!
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

2016-12-08 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
To use Edge with JAWS, use of touch cursor is essential.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Of Kevin
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

the broser is still in no way accessible I press tab and nothing happens I 
press the alt key and nothing happens the insert plus f7 f6 or f5 doesn’t work.
someone on this list or the windows 10 list said it is accessible I ask how!
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

2016-12-08 Thread Gene Warner
That's no surprise. In the Freedom Scientific podcasts about JAWS 18, 
they said they were still working on making Edge accessible.


Cheers!




On 12/8/2016 6:06 PM, Kevin wrote:

the broser is still in no way accessible
I press tab and nothing happens
I press the alt key and nothing happens
the insert plus f7 f6 or f5 doesn’t work.
someone on this list or the windows 10 list said it is accessible I ask how!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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[JAWS-Users] microsoft edge and jaws 18

2016-12-08 Thread Kevin
the broser is still in no way accessible 
I press tab and nothing happens
I press the alt key and nothing happens
the insert plus f7 f6 or f5 doesn’t work.
someone on this list or the windows 10 list said it is accessible I ask how!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

2016-08-19 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Actually, you can use touch cursor with Edge. However, it is best to wait
for a while until at least a later build of JAWS 18.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Thank you. Much appreciated.
Robin

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

You can only use narrator at this time with the Edge browser.


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

Is Microsoft Edge to be used at all at this time either with JAWS 16 or 17?
Or, do we stick with IE until further notice?
robin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

2016-08-19 Thread East, Robin
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Robin

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

You can only use narrator at this time with the Edge browser.


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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:09 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

Is Microsoft Edge to be used at all at this time either with JAWS 16 or 17?
Or, do we stick with IE until further notice?
robin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

2016-08-19 Thread James Flusche
You can only use narrator at this time with the Edge browser.


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

Is Microsoft Edge to be used at all at this time either with JAWS 16 or 17?
Or, do we stick with IE until further notice?
robin

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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

2016-08-19 Thread East, Robin
Is Microsoft Edge to be used at all at this time either with JAWS 16 or 17? Or, 
do we stick with IE until further notice?
robin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge

2016-08-15 Thread James Flusche
No, you can not remove the built-in apps from W-10. If you do not want to
use them. Make sure they are turned off under the background apps. Turn
their live tile off in the apps list view of the Start area. Read my guide
on how to do these things.


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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:12 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge

Is there any way to remove Microsoft edge?

Justin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] microsoft edge

2016-08-15 Thread David Whitehead
No, but you can unpin the program from the taskbar.


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Is there any way to remove Microsoft edge?

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[JAWS-Users] microsoft edge

2016-08-15 Thread Justin Williams
Is there any way to remove Microsoft edge?

Justin

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