[lace] Lace Digest

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Here is my two bits to help create a digest for you.
I have been fairly quiet this year with lots of computer problems so haven't
been writing much.
I was busy with lace for much part of the year.  I finished the 3-year Miss
Channer's Mat project, and got a 1st at state fair.  I also finished a 2-year
project of a headpiece/lappet from the OIDFA book of Herrmansburg lappets. 
It got Best in Class at state fair, beating out the Mat by one point.  Then I
started, and finished, another lappet from the same book -- one of the
easiest.  It only took 2-3 months.
In the spring I had three students, then added another during the summer. 
They are keeping me a bit busy, also.
At the same time, I decided I needed to do something about my house.  I had a
new ceiling put in my dining room, then painted the dining and living rooms. 
A new carpet was installed.  Sheetrock was put on the unfinished landing at
the top of the spiral stairs, and a new door installed to the attic.  The
contractor also put in three new outside doors, some of which are still
waiting for paint.
The summer was so hot that I stayed in most of the time.  I guess that's why
so much lace got done so fast.  The summer was topped off by a trip to Rome
and Tuscany -- just a week's commercial tour.  It was interesting but I would
have like to have spent a bit more time in some places.
The holiday season was celebrated early with a new car.  It's a Nissan Kicks,
with all the new safety features. I'm really enjoying driving it.
There are two lace projects in the middle of the living room that I should go
work on.  And a lace pattern to design for a lamp shade that I want to make
next spring. I would like to make some Temari Balls for Christmas.  There's
always something to work on. And so many patterns waiting for me!
Have a very Lacy Holiday Season!Alice in Oregon-- where the weather has turned
cool and damp.

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[lace] Black thread

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I made a lappet/scarf from black cotton thread.  I don't remember if the
pattern was white or blue.  However, I had to have good light to work on it,
and I found that the thread was stiffer than the same size in white.  It was
almost impossible to make neat leaf tallies in that thread.  Fortunately,
people don't look closely at the tallies.  They just see the total lace, not
the details. When finished, I promised myself that I would not use black
thread again.  (So what do I do with that full spool of black thread in the
drawer?)
Alice in Oregon --where summer has ended and the nights are getting cool. 
Maybe one day we'll have some rain.

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[lace] Faery Lace?

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In my studies of lace history, the old very-fine threads ceased being produced 
about 1800.  The cotton gin was invented about 1790.  It let cotton be produced 
in great quantity at a much cheaper price than fine linen.  For comparison, if 
a spool of cotton were $10, a spool of linen would be $100.  



Combine that with the fact that cotton thread is smooth and runs through 
machine gears without binding.  Linen thread tends to have some thicker spots 
in it.  The new lace machines used the smoother, less expensive thread for 
multiple reasons.

Also, the newest thing is the fashion fad, so cotton lace (especially machine 
made) was in vogue.  It didn't matter that it was cheaper, thicker, and 
possibly not quite as pretty as handnmade -- it was the "in" thing.


By 1800, the linen thread was no longer in demand, and the supplies in the 
warehouse were not moving. The long, thin variety of flax was no longer 
planted. The thread supplies that they did have on hand were gradually used so 
there were no more available by 1830.  Eventually, even the seeds to the 
special flax variety were gone.

Alice in Oregon -- where I just won State Fair Best in Division for my lace 
lappet, made from the OIDFA lappet book we got a few years ago.

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[lace] Arachne Anniversary

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Back then, my DH wanted to update my computer experience so he set up a
computer just for me.  He sat me down and told me "type in something".  I
typed Bobbin Lace. Arachne was one of the first things to come up.  I checked
it out, subscribed, and am still here.  I was on the Digest to start with
because I could use the computer limited times.  It came over our business
phone line so I could use it early mornings or evenings.  After I got a phone
line of my own and the computer was changed to it, I signed up for the main
Lace List to get the emails more promptly.  Sometimes I post, and sometimes
I'm quiet.
It's been fun 'meeting' people on the list, and then sometimes meeting them in
person.  I've learned many things about lace, and hope I helped a few
beginners when they had a problem.
On another subject --I have three students who are so enthusiastic that I am
having to hustle to keep ahead of them.  The third month they all wanted
second pillows. They work ahead in the book between classes so I never know in
advance how far each has gotten.  One has requested to learn Russian for her
next lace. To top off these interesting class sessions, we meet in a home and
they feed me lunch before the lessons.  After the lessons they send me home
sometimes with eggs (they have chickens) and last time included a couple
bottles of wine.  The DH of one of them makes ice wines.  Yum. 

Alice in Oregon -- where the rain is supposed to stop in a couple days and the
weather turn warm and sunny -- in the 70's.  A nice change from all the
rain.

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[lace] Arachne Anniversary

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I found Arachne just after it's first anniversary so I'm not quite a charter 
member but it was soon after I started making lace.

The discussions gave me lots of good information and helped my lacemaking.  
Then the group decided they wanted a conference so Arachne 98 was born.  Thanks 
to Pat and Margaret, we had 60 people from all over the world meet in 
Nottingham for a week of fun and classes, including attending one of England's 
large lace fairs.  This sounded so interesting that I decided to attend. It was 
my first trip off my continent.  


A group of us met at the Victoria and Albert museum in London before the 
conference.  I think there were a couple dozen or more.  We attended a lace 
talk, and surprised the presenter.  She was used to only 2 or 3 people at a 
time.  I even met a lacemaker who lives 30 miles from me who has since become a 
good friend.


The Arachne conversations have covered an enormous range of topics.  The 
archives has much information for the person who wants to search a bit -- from 
picots to tallies to Russian fillings,etc.

We have had up to 3000 members at times.  I haven't seen a count for several 
years so I don't know how many we are right now.

In the beginning, there was only one list.  To separate the lace topics from 
the other things, the Lace-Chat list was started.  All non-lace topics were to 
be directed there (recipes, grandkids, vacations).  Each person can sign up for 
either or both lists.

We had Secret Pals for six-month intervals.  A non-identified gift was sent 
once a month with the sender's name revealed in the last gift. We also had the 
occasional ornament or bookmark exchange.  Once we had a hanky (lace-edged, of 
course) exchange. That was in '98 because I exchanged mine in Nottingham 
instead of mailing it.

We all generally got along very well, but about twice a year someone would say 
something that upset someone else, and there would be a short fuss. Liz, our 
list owner, does not have time to monitor all that is said, so we got Avital to 
be the Moderator, to step in when someone got testy.  Most conversations are on 
topic and positive. I think we may be one of the longest continuously active 
lists on the internet.

Arachne has stimulated my lace interests and given me friends all around the 
world.  It has led me to Europe twice, with a third trip in the planning.  


Happy Anniversary to Arachne -- and may it continue a long time.  Thank you, 
Liz Reynolds.

Alice in Oregon -- where it has been raining off and on for days with no letup 
in sight.

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[lace] Seasons Greetings

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Have a Great Holiday, wherever you are -- and whatever holiday you celebrate.

Where I live, the weather people say there is a 4 percent chance of snow -- 
happened only 2 times in the past 80 years.  However, they say it MIGHT be 
possible this year -- IF the Christmas Eve clouds drip on us, and IF the temp 
is low enough to freeze the drips, and IF we get up early enough on Christmas 
that it hasn't melted yet --- THEN we can claim a White Christmas.  That's a 
lot of 'ifs' and I'm not holding my breath waiting.

I will be enjoying the day at home -- and plan to pull out my half-done lappet 
to work on.

The day after Christmas, the lacemakers around here gather at a home to make 
lace, talk and eat.  It's a fun, casual day.

Merry Christmas!

Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Winding Idrija bobbins

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A lace friend makes lots of Idrija lace on a bolster.  She said that when she
winds the bobbins clockwise, they won't stay in their hitch.  They loosen and
fall to the floor.  When the threads are wound counter-clockwise, they stay
in place -- providing there's lots of thread on the bobbin to provide
traction.  She always works with full bobbins, even for a small project. 
Put the new shorter thread on top of what's on the bobbin for a small
project.
One note -- she does use Idrija thread on her projects, so the twist direction
of the thread probably affects the needed winding direction on the bobbins.
There's more thread stress on bolster-used bobbins as they hang down than on
ones used on a flat pillow.
Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] Re cattern cakes

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There's a picture on another
webpage:http://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/lacemakers-cattern-cakes-english-
spiced-sugar-cookies-266901

Note the subtitle.  English spiced sugar cookies.  It's guess that, in a
pinch, you might be able to get a package of sugar cookie mix, roll it out and
add the fruit and spice bits, then bake.  It might be an acceptable
alternative. If you're in the USA, like me, no one has tasted an authentic
cattern cake so no one would be the wisrer.  It would also eliminate having
to translate English ingredients into what's available in the USA.

I made the cookies from the book recipe once years ago.  My problem is that I
don't like caraway, so I made half with and half without that seed.  It's too
long ago to remember how well they turned out.  We ate them but I don't think
they were memorable.
I may try again this year, especially since we have lace meeting on Nov.
25th.  Perfect timing.  Thanks for reminding me.
Alice in Oregon -- where summer ended yesterday and winter rains are due to
start today.




On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:23 PM, Shirley MEIER
 wrote:


 Hi Devon , if you enter    cattern cakes / visual      into your
browser
and then find the    Lavender and Lovage      page you will find an easy
recipe plus visual pictures . Hope this helps.

Shirley in Corio , Oz.

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[lace] starting lace from a bundle of threads

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The modern lacemaker usually works single, not too large, projects.  We're not 
in a big rush and want to do it neatly.  We learn to make smooth edges on the 
start and finish. Paired bobbins make a smoother start.  We put a higher value 
on neatness over speed than early lacemakers.


Many of the early lacemakers made edgings or inserts -- often many yards of it. 
 The finished lace went to seamstresses who cut it in sections needed for 
garments or whatever.  The cut edges were sewn in seams or turned under and 
hemmed.  Time was money.  A new pattern needed to be started as quickly as 
possible.  Little kids often wound the bobbins.  Winding in pairs would be more 
difficult for them.  Starting with a bundle, or several, was time efficient 
since the end would be either cut off or sewn in a seam.  The start did not 
have to be neat.

Some types of laces or projects today are still done with bundles.  It's 
quicker to wind single bobbins if they need to hold many yards.  It's a good 
technique to know for the occasions when it's efficient.

Alice in Oregon -- where we are in a wet week with heavy rain due tomorrow.  
Think I'll stay home and dry.  Lace time.

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Re: [lace-chat] CA fires

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Some of the people evacuated from the fires had only 5 minutes warning to get
out.  They had to grab their medicines and run. Pets in the house could be
grabbed also, but one who was outdoors, away from the house, and didn't come
instantly to a call, would have to be left behind.  The officials directing
the evacuation would not let people wait or search for a missing animal.  It
would not be the owners choice to leave a pet.
The fires moved so fast it was unbelievable. We thought the fires here (in
Oregon) were bad, but California ones were (are) much worse.
Alice in Oregon


On Monday, October 16, 2017 1:41 AM, Sue Harvey
 wrote:


 While I have absolutely sympathy with all those poor people who have lost
everything in those terrible fires, I just cannot understand that couple who
went back to their home and found their dog still alive? I just could not have
left without my two dogs to think they would die in the fire would just be
unthinkable.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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[lace] Lace Group scam -- warning

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This just happened to my lace group in the USA.
My treasurer received an email from "me" requesting a check mailed
immediately.  When questioned, the scammer said it was for supplies for PLS
from a vendor.  Send the check to Ann Carpenter in Reno, Nevada.  It was
over $1000.

A couple emails later, my treasurer changed the subject line on an email and
it came to me instead of the scammer.  My reply of puzzlement let my
treasurer take action before damage was done.  The whole bank account was
closed and will be reopened today with a new number.  Also, she's filing a
police report with name and address of scammer, plus info that the mailed
check would be delivered Friday. 

I don't think my computer was hacked.  I think someone researched lace groups
and pulled out the president and treasurer's emails and group name.  Be sure
you have procedures set up to verify billings to your lace group before
sending checks.  This could happen to any organizaation.
Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Oregon - local lace display

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This weekend, Sep 23-24, Portland Lace Society and two of it's members are the 
featured artists at the Oregon Flock and Fiber Festival in Canby, Oregon, at 
the Clackamas County fairgrounds.

The festival wanted to feature Tatting, so asked for two of our tatting members 
to be honored.  They will have a display of their work in one glass case and 
will be present demo-ing tatting.  PLS will have a display case to show other 
types of lace made by PLS members.  We will identify both the maker and the 
type of lace on each item.  Lace demos will be done each day by several people.

The weather forecast is good but not too hot, so it should be a nice weekend to 
make lace outdoors.  The demos are done under a canopy outside the display 
building.  


The Festival's main focus is weaving and knitting, but they include lacemaking 
in their fiber arts.

If you are in the area, come visit.

Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Working from a diagram

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Most laces I work with just a picture or a basic diagram.  The straight laces 
and simple tape laces have consistent structures.


With the more intricate laces, I use a diagram extensively -- having used 
either pins or sticky arrows on various projects.  However, with one project 
that was a reconstructed old lace, I got frustrated.  The pricking was mainly a 
series of dots with just a few lines.  The diagram had all the thread paths 
marked.  It was really hard to keep track of where I was on the pricking and 
relate those dots to the lines on the diagram.  I knew I'd never finish the 
project if I worked that slowly through the whole thing.

I copied the diagram to the same size as the pricking, and moved the lace on 
top of the diagram.  That way I could follow the thread paths directly.  Maybe 
I'm just spoiled with all our modern patterns, but this made this particular 
pattern so much easier to follow.  It's now half done and I know I'll keep 
working on it until it's all done.  It's still interesting and fun.

The one thing I learned is that some diagrams do not distinguish a difference 
in stitch.  Just the thread paths are shown.  I'm slowly learning to mark/color 
my pattern in some way to separate half stitch areas from cloth stitch.  And 
hopefully to do it before I put a clear plastic coating on the pattern.  


Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Turn over stitch

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The Turn Over Stitch is CTTC.  This is used when two colors meet and you want 
them each to return the way they came rather than crossing through the stitch.  
If you need to put a pin, you can CTTpinC.  In point ground, you would put a 
pin under the stitch.  In many cases, no pin is used.  Just tension carefully.  
It's a stitch that's usually not needed if you work in a solid color.

However -- CTTC is handy if you want to trade two pair, like switching the 
workers with a passive pair because your workers are running low on thread.  


Alice in Oregon  -- where we're having rain for the first time in two months.

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[lace] Exchanges history

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Yes, Sue, sometimes an exchange item disappears into a black hole.  In the
early days, I coordinated many exchanges.  There were times when something
was mailed and never arrived.  As coordinator, I usually had an extra item or
two to fill in when one went missing.  Usually all were received safe and
sound.  These days, we don't have many mailed items that go astray.
We have also had items that seemed to be missing, and then turned up in a
neighbor's mail -- and the neighbor was very slow in passing it on.  Also,
air mail items have been put on ships so spent a month at sea before being
delivered.

One thing I learned was not to put fancy stamps on letters or packages going
to South Africa or some eastern European countries.  People liked the stamps
so much that they stole the letters for the stamps.  On my things, I learned
to ask the post office to just print the postage amount with their dull,
uninteresting stamper.  When I did that, the items were received.  The
saddest story was the missing items tracked to the planes that crashed into
the twin towers in New York.  No one likes to think their hard work was
destroyed.
Well the time for mailing the motif exchanges is coming soon.  Mine's not
quite done so I need to get back to work on it.

Alice in Oregon -- where I'm recovering from 10 days of 9-14 hours a day at
county fair.  Big sigh of relief -- it's done for this year.  Now I just
have to survive the madhouse of the total eclipse over my area in 2 weeks. 
Wouldn't it be ironic if we had a storm that covered the whole area that day!

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Re: [lace] Turning corners on roller pillow

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The conical cylinders are designed to make square handkerchief edgings in a
continuous fashion.  The side section of lace is only as long as the
circumference of the cylinder, following the offset line of the pattern.  If
longer edges were desired, a difference method was needed -- unless you did as
you mentioned and unpinned, changed pattern, repinned  for each corner and
long section.
It's possible to use a roller on a square corner, but it still requires
repinning.  A straight section is done, and down to a point at the corner --
working to the central diagonal line from the inside corner to the outside
corner but not past it.  Then unpin, reset the pattern, and repin, turning
your work 90 degrees..  Do the next long side from point to point, and
repeat.  This is a bit awkward but can be done.

I find it easier to use a block pillow.  Try to lay out the pattern so the
corner section is contained in one block.  Work to the diagonal line from the
inside corner to the outside corner, then pick up the block and turn it 90
degrees.  No unpinning -- just rearranging.  Or turn the whole pillow 90
degrees and keep working, depending on what style of block pillow you have. 
You can keep moving the blocks up for as long an edging as you wish.

Alice in Oregon


On Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:49 PM, Sally Jenkins 
wrote:


 Hello all,

I have a question about making corners on a roller pillow. I have seen the
conical (as opposed to cylindrical) rollers for making corners, and I
understand how they work, but how do you then go on working a straight
piece of lace after you've made the corner? Do you have to transfer your
work back to a cylinder? And then transfer it to a cone again for the next
corner? Surely I am missing some basic understanding.

Thank you,
Sally in western Oregon, where the raspberry and blackberry bushes are
starting to have blossoms

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Re: [lace] IOLI Convention

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When I was flying to take a Lier class, I had the same dilemma. I ended up with 
a simple, but spendy, solution.  I took two of the larger (10 x 15) Instand 
tables with the foldup tripod legs.  I put one on each side of my frame, and 
the middle was completely open for working.  The Instand tables will even slant 
if a person desires, and adjust in height for different chairs.

Since the stands are metal, the suitcase weighs a bit more so I had to watch 
that.  I put the tables and legs on top in my suitcase so the TSA could readily 
see what was blocking the xray without going through all my things.

These tables are in frequent use for demos and exhibits.  They have been a good 
investment.

Alice in Oregon -- where my Miss Channer's Mat is past halfway done, and my 
headdress/lappet is almost halfway.

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Re: [lace] Re: Convention-public day

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It's been a number of years since our group hosted IOLI so I may not be 
remembering correctly.  However, I think we had a very small charge, like 
$3.00, for public visitors who wanted to shop.  People had to have a nametag to 
enter the vendor's hall.  The charge covered the nametag.  If they took a class 
or two that day, then there was a one-day registration fee.  The exhibit hall 
was open to any visitor.  That I know because I was in charge of it, and we did 
not check for nametags when people came in.

If the conference guidelines do not specify rules, then the hosts can probably 
do it however they wish.  There's usually a very small number of public 
visitors that day so it isn't a major problem.

Alice in Oregon -- where we had one day of sunny, but chilly, spring - then 
back to rain for the next week.



On Friday, April 21, 2017 12:14 PM, Anita Hansen  
wrote:
I haven't found the words with the exact policy for this year, but in the past 
the vending and display rooms have usuall been open FREE to the public on 
Wednesday. The mini-registration fee usually is only necessary if signing up 
for a class on that day.

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[lace] Red Dye Stain Ideas

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Thank you for all the ideas and suggestions.  It will help when I meet with
the lady to see the robe for myself, and the damage.
I appreciate your responses and experiences.
Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Red Dye stains

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A lady in my area has a white priest's robe with lace on it, including wide 
cuffs.  Red satin was placed behind the lace to show it off.  Evidently someone 
washed the robe without removing the red satin, and it has red color on the 
white fabric.  I haven't yet seen it so don't know the extent of staining.  She 
wants to know how to remove the color.  From what she told me, the garment was 
from early or mid 20th century so is not really early.  The lace is probably 
machine made, from the picture.  I think the fabric is cotton.


Does anyone have a suggestion of how to get red marks out of fabric?   All 
ideas are welcome.

Thanks,
Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Cultural Survey in my county

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The local Cultural Coalition is making an index (survey) of local Arts,
Culture and Heritage.  One of the categories includes arts of all kinds. I
decided my Bobbin Lace Art needed to be included, so filled out the long
questionnaire.
I thought it interesting, in the list of suggested arts, that Tatting was
included but not Bobbin Lace.  They now have it added.  In the USA we still
have lots of people who are not aware of bobbin or needle lace despite our
many demos and displays.  The person who wrote the form must have been on of
these.
I am curious if our lace group picks up any new people through this listing. 
Come to think of it, I may go back to the webpage and make in entry for our
local Lace Group. There is an organization section as well as single artists.
The survey is intended to be a reference when someone is looking for a teacher
or program, or help in community events.  I'll just have to see where it
leads.
Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Miss Channers mat -- Error in Pricking

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If you have a copy of Miss Channers Mat pattern, you may want to take note of
the error I found.  The person who make the original sample found it and
corrected for it, but the correction was not put on the pattern.
Find the center of the pattern.  On four sides of the center,there is a
stylized flower.  It's has two ovals in the center with tallies on them. 
The center is surrounded by two curving sets of petals.  The inside petals
curve around the center part until they almost meet.  On one of the flowers,
these petals have been run together in a arch.  You may want to draw in the
ends of the petals for future use.
Update on progress -- I am now halfway through the pattern.  I have just used
up the 235 pre-wound pairs of bobbins.  Plus I have tied together many of the
cut0off pairs, rolled the knot back on a bobbin, and re-used the
bobbins.    I'll be doing that through the rest of the pattern when I want
to thicken a clothstitch section.  I like a solid leaf or petal so I add in
lots of extras, and throw them out when I get to a ground section.
The past couple weeks I have had a problem with threads breaking.  It was
frustrating to have one beak near the end of a tally.  I took it out,
installed a new pair, and then halfway through, another thread broke.  Repeat
the previous work.  Third try worked.  I was really glad to complete that
batch of tallies.
The bobbins have been wound for over a year.  When they started to break, I
gave them a moisture treatment.  It helped a little but I'm still breaking
threads.  I've had other patterns on a pillow for much longer than this one,
with no thread problems.  Maybe it's because it's a very fine thread.
Alice in Oregon -- on a very wet day.  Trees are starting to bloom but it's
still cool outside.  I look forward to sunshine and warm temps.

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[lace] Lace in India - Sulochona correction

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Sorry -- but I had the wrong name in mind on the fan project.  It was Janya
in Thailand, not Sulochona in India.  I was also told that when the fan was
finished, it was mounted on gold fan sticks.  Wish I could see it!
Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Lace in India - Sulachona

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[lace] Solo or group lacing

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I enjoy making lace in a group because it's fun to chat with my friends. 
However, I need an easy project for this, one that I've done enough of to do
without having to think very hard.  Anything that takes concentration is done
at home, alone.  Also, getting a project started, or one done on a very heavy
pillow, is also a home project.
Thus, i usually have several projects in process at a time -- and two or three
on small travel pillows so I can choose the project that suits the occasion. 
I also take travel pillows to church meetings or places where I'll have to sit
for a length of time, like getting my car serviced.
I can listen to music, TV or an audiobook story while working complicated
lace, but conversation takes more attention.
In my working days, I only had evenings to make lace.  I still seem to follow
that pattern -- do chores etc in the daytime, and my special projects in the
evening when the TV is on.  Also, my fingers are a bit stiff in the mornings,
so it's easier for them to make lace later in the day.
The exception is for two months of the year during tax season when I work as a
receptionist -- and have to take something to work on between clients.  I am
working on my most difficult project at work -- Miss Channer's Mat.  My
friends are envious that I get paid while making lace.
Alice in Oregon -- where I woke up to snow again, but it didn't stay long. 
We've had 4 times the usual snow this year. 

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[lace] Victoria's Gown - Correction

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Tonight I saw a program about filming 'Victoria'.  They had the wedding gown
on display and showed closeups of it.  It DID have a section of lace across
the lower portion of the front of the gown.  It was the same color as the
gown and didn't show up very well at a distance.  They said they copied the
original one in the display, and used a 'similar' lace to the original
Honiton.  I didn't think it looked very much like Honiton, but few people
would know the difference.'It would have been nice for the production to have
shown the gown better.  However, now I know the costumers tried to be
authentic.
A second series is being written so sometime in the future we'll get to see
some more of Victoria, covering the years 1840-1844.
They did mention that Victoria was 4'8" tall.  The actress playing the part
is about 6 inches taller.
There has been a wide variety of laces used in the collars of the servants. 
On the dark dresses, they show up very well.
Alice in Oregon -- where we have another threat of snow for the morning.  I
wish spring would come.

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[lace] Victoria's gown

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My local public TV has been running the Victoria series.    They re-ran the
first 5 episodes last weekend, which I watched though I had seen them
earlier.
I closely watched the wedding scenes to see the dress.  Then I did some web
searching for pictures of the real gown.  I concluded that the TV people
copied the gown as it was displayed a couple years back.  This display did
not include the wedding laces that originally were used on the gown-- just the
basic dress.
The filming was very cleverly done -- featuring mostly a head shot of
Victoria, or having her partly hidden behind another person or piece of the
set.  Only one scene showed the entire dress, and only briefly.  It made me
wonder if the director knew the dress was not correctly duplicated and
deliberately did not let the dress show much, or if the costumers did not
research the subject very far and just stopped with a picture of the dress as
it was in the display.
Does anyone in UK remember any talk about this when the program first came
out?  They did such a good job of making period costumes for all the
characters that the lack in the wedding gown was a surprise. 

I also wondered at all the servants wearing real lace collars.  I didn't
think this was normal for servants, but maybe being in the royal household let
them dress better than other servants.
Alice in Oregon -- where rain is predicted for another 7 days.  Sunday and
Monday we had snowflakes bigger than quarters.  Lovely to see.

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Re: [lace] Saxony Lace

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>  The cloth area did not need
>to be very big, and the lace is wide to look especially beautiful  Of

>course, there is no size reference in the picture

Ooops!  I didn't scroll down.  The item is listed at 15", so the fabric is 
about 7" and the lace 3" wide.  That is definitely not antique handkerchief 
dimensions.  I stick with my idea of it being a chalice cover.

Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] Saxony Lace

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There were tape laces being made in Germany as well as other eastern European
countries.  I couldn't see the picture well enough to take a guess as to
origin.
However -- it does look like an item made for church use -- namely, to cover
the chalice or the 'bread' when not being used.  The cloth area did not need
to be very big, and the lace is wide to look especially beautiful.  Of
course, there is no size reference in the picture so my guess of the size may
be wrong.  Handkerchiefs of the time were extremely large (15-20" of fabric)
so that proportion of lace would have made it into a tablecloth.  This is
more likely an altar accessory.
Alice in Oregon -- where we are eagerly anticipating three nice days before
the next storm


On Friday, February 10, 2017 12:38 PM, "devonth...@gmail.com"
 wrote:


 Sorry, I forgot and sent this by my AOL account. Here it is from Gmail.
There is a handkerchief located at
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215260?sortBy=Relevance
=08.180.911offset=0rpp=20pos=1
It says it was made in Saxony, Germany. But it looks like a tape lace of
possibly Eastern European origin. An explanation says it is
“Church� lace.
It is clearly a handkerchief and there is nothing about it that would suggest
ecclesiastical use. Is “Church� lace a term of art that anyone is
familiar
with, especially as it may relate to Saxony, Germany?
Devon


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Re: [lace] lily lappet - pattern?

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In the modern world, the lappet becomes half a scarf.  Attach the two lappets
of a pair together in the middle, and wear it under the collar of your dress
coat/jacket with the ends hanging down the front.  I've done that many times
with the one I made.  Or it could be just wrapped around the neck and loosely
tied in front.  Or wrap around the neck with one end hanging in front and the
other end hanging in back.
I'm also known, at lace conferences, to wear antique lappets hanging from the
top of my head and usually down my back so they are out of the way for
working.The last time I did that at IOLI, by the end of the week, several
other brave soles were wearing lappets, also.
Some of the old patterns are really lovely, and we can figure out ways to
adapt them to modern use.
The lily pattern is very attractive, and would be interesting to make. 
However, I would not recognize it as a lappet.  Best wishes to anyone who
wants to make it.  The picture looks clear enough to use as a pattern.
Alice in Oregon -- where the last snow was just thick rain and didn't stick. 
It was just a degree or two too warm.  However, we set a rainfall record
during that storm. If it had been snow, it would have been a real mess.


On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:15 AM, Adele Shaak 
wrote:


 Oh, Devon - what a good idea. I think we should all wear lappets.

Picture Venus & Serena Williams playing tennis with lappets streaming from
their hair. Women doctors in the operating room, lappets demurely tucked into
their scrubs. Women directing traffic, lappets peeking from underneath their
safety helmets. Ditto women on the construction site. Probably the men will
want to get in on the fun, too.

OK, I admit it. After far too much sleet and snow the sun has come out and
I’m feeling frisky.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


>  but if you were thinking of going
> about in impressive cap streamers, this will probably be a disappointment. 
😊
> Devon

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Re: [lace] Support pin in Binche cloth areas

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Back in my beginning days, a teacher told me to use temporary support pins any 
time it helped me out.  I use them a lot.  I tend to use the long yellow-headed 
pins as temporary pins so they stand up among the gaggle of pins on the pillow, 
and I pull them out when they are 3-4 rows back.  They don't stay in long 
enough for the pinhole to get set.  If I intend to leave the extra pin in, I'll 
use a normal pin.  The pins are just there to control and herd the threads into 
position.  When you have a cantankerous thread, you have to give it extra help. 
 When a thread changes direction, a pin is most helpful in keeping everything 
in order.

Alice in Oregon (where winter keeps going on -- freezing rain yesterday and 
snow tomorrow)

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[lace-chat] New use for a lace pillow

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Recently one of my cats has disappeared at nap time.  I have a small house
with limited hidey-holes, so  I had a good look.
My rack of cookie pillows is in a corner near a heat register.  The back half
of the bottom pillow had a strange black mound -- yes, my cat.  The pillow is
well wrapped in a carry cloth so he can't bother anything on the pillow.  And
disappearing like that is driving the other cat nuts.
This extended very cold weather has both cats seeking out the warmest places
in the house -- usually in front of a heater or heat register.  Or on my lap
if I sit down.  I have to dump them off in order to make lace.  I just don't
have enough lap room to hold a cat or two, AND a lace pillow.
Our temperatures haven't been above freezing for 3 days now.  That's supposed
to break starting tomorrow, and by Wednesday we're supposed to be above 50F
with heavy rain.  We'll go from snow and ice to floods.  The past month has
seen four snow storms, plus rain  or freezing rain in between.  I haven't
seen weather like this for decades.  I've spent a lot of days confined
indoors, and can see progress on my lace project.  There's lots to do in my
house to keep busy when snowed-in, but I really look forward to spring with
warmer weather and more daylight.
Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Christmas

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Holiday Greetings to all Arachne friends!
Stay safe and warm if you are in the bad weather areas.  It's cold but mostly
dry here in the valley today but higher altitudes have snow and ice.
I spent the day baking muffins and fruit loaf for church coffee time
tomorrow.  After I'm home tomorrow, I look forward to working on my lace.  I
will be able to just relax and enjoy it.
Merry Christmas -- Happy Hanukkah -- Happy Winter Solstice -- or whatever you
celebrate.
Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Stuffies Night Out

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I know this is not lace, but the list has been very quiet.
I just read in the local paper that our library is holding a "Stuffies Night
Out".  Children are to drop off a stuffed toy on a certain day, and pick it
up the next day.  They will receive pictures of the stuffed animals'
adventures during the night.
The whole idea greatly amused me.  Such harmless fun.  Someone has an
imagination.

Now I can go back to choosing which lace project will receive my attentions
during the holidays.  My house is thoroughly decorated since I hosted the
lace group (with orders that I HAD to decorate), so I'm enjoying the lighted
tree and all the rest.  The lace ornaments from exchanges are on display
(thanks everyone for such lovely work over the years).  I treated myself to
some new bobbins on eBay, and want to set them up on a project.

it's been rather nasty weather-wise so I've spent alot of time indoors --
perfect for lacemaking and quilting.
Best wishes to all celebrating a holiday this month.   Make lots of lace.
Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] Arachne Christmas Exchange

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Agnes -- Your lovely green and gold bangle ornament was received long past. 
I wrote you a thank you message, but it must have fallen in the Pond on it's
way across.  It was the first one to come to me in this exchange and has held
a place of honor in my Christmas display.
Both the lace and the card are loved and appreciated. 

Thank you,Alice in Oregon


On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:07 AM, Agnes Boddington
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 To date I have not received an email to say that my Christmas ornament to
Alica Howell in the USA has arrived there. It was posted on 7th November.
I have received hers a couple of weeks ago.
Agnes Boddington

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Re: [lace] Linen thread

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Not all brands of linen are the same.  I used Fresia brand linen in the
tablecloth I finished this year.  It was quite smooth.  The few slubs were
far apart.  I think the Fresia thread was made for lacemaking.  The linen
that is full of slubs was probably made for weaving, and the slubs were
intentional for texture.

Alice in Oregon

On Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:59 PM, Susan  wrote:


 Thank you Adele!  I particularly appreciate your reference to linen clothing
as there as some very fine linen clothes out there.  Beautiful to wear &
launder--& they last for years.  Others are unsuitable for much of anything &
they don't last long even on delicate cycle!  So It seems that finely spun
linen thread is currently available for high-quality dressmaking.  I was just
hoping that there might be a discernible difference among thread brands for
our purposes.  Slubs are less egregious in 40/2 thread where the lace is more
robust, but from my perspective, they aren't welcome in 90/2 for finely
textured lace.  I won't name names, but the one I used is well known & not
cheap stuff.  Bummer.  Thanks again for the wake up call.  You can probably
tell that I use more cotton & silk thread.  ;-)  Still growling, Susan
Hottle USA

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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Adele Shaak  wrote:
>
> 
> I must say that I love to use linen thread and I don’t notice the slubs in
the finished lace. Maybe I’m just so used to them, maybe it’s because
mangling makes the lace look different, maybe they just don’t bug me the way
they do you. I don’t know! You’re right in thinking that you will risk
breaking the thread by picking out the slub. The thread will also be less
twisted in the place where the slub used to be, and will be weaker in that
spot as a result.

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[lace] List is quiet - been busy

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I wondered about everyone but I was busy myself.  So far this month I've 
attended two regular lace meetings and our annual Lace Day, taught a short 
bobbin lace class in Tillamook, and am trying to get my things ready for a 
3-day Bucks class starting tomorrow.  The teacher threw in an extra chore of 
drawing a diagram of the pattern I'm using in the class.  (There's no diagram 
or picture with this particular pattern.)


In addition, I've put away all the patio furniture and garden decorative items 
before the strong winter storm that's hitting later today.  And I'm chairman of 
a sale at church in another week.  I've been finishing my projects for that 
sale.


I've never drawn a Bucks diagram before -- only Torchon.  It's been a 
challenge.  There must be some basic rules/methods that I'm not aware of. I 
enlarged the pattern 250 percent and have been making a lot of use of my 
eraser.  I can see why some diagrams are 500+ percent larger than the actual 
pattern.


Now I need to run some errands while it's raining gently before the main storm 
comes in.  Rain is forecast for the foreseen future with an even stronger storm 
(remains of a typhoon) hitting Saturday.  Lovely weather to drive 30 miles each 
way each day to the lace class.  I'm really glad Lace Day was last week when we 
had a nice day.

Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] Metal lace on TV

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Same idea but different artist.

Thanks for the link.  It was lovely to look at.

Alice in Oregon



>And I forgot to add the link I was referring to. 


>http://www.demilked.com/feminine-lace-filigree-blowtorch-steel-cal-lane/

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Re: [lace] Metal lace on TV

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Sorry -- left out one detail.  The TV program is called Oregon Art Beat. 
Thursday night 8pm.  On the TV schedule, the metal artist is listed first so
may be at the start of the program.  I'll let you know when it can be seen on
the web.
Alice in Oregon


On Monday, October 3, 2016 8:44 AM, Liz Roberts 
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 Is this the same lady you were referring to who cuts lacy patterns in metal?
What is the name of the show she is supposed to be on?
Liz in beautiful, sunny Missouri, USA

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[lace] Metal lace on TV

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The program showing the lady who cuts lacy patterns in old car bodies will be 
on this week Thursday at 8:00pm Pacific Daylight Time on Oregon Public 
Broadcasting (channel 10 locally).  After it shows, it will be available on the 
OPB website.  When it has a web address, I'll let you know.  I don't know how 
fast they are getting them online.

The glimpse the advertisement has is very intriguing.

Alice in Oregon -- where the weather varies from wet to gray.  I think summer 
is over.

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[lace] Lace in Strange Places

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A preview advertisement of an Art TV program (on Oregon public TV) featured a
lady who cuts lacy patterns into the roof of old hotrod cars.  I hope I get
to see the full program since the glimpse of the lacy roof was very
enticing.   It's sometime next month.  I'll be watching for the exact date
and time in future ads.
The car would be fun to drive, but only on dry days.
Alice in Oregon -- where we're getting ready for Lace Day on Oct. 8.. 
Details on portlandlacesociety.com - click Calendar.

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Re: [lace] Dividing pins help

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You need a glue that will stick to metal and glass.  Check the details on
your available super glues to find the right one.
Alice in Oregon -- where the weather has cooled to autumn temperatures. 
Nicer than roasting but I hate to see summer end.


On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:26 AM, David C COLLYER
 wrote:


 Dear Friends,
Over the years I have found the best dividing pins to be ordinary
sewing needles with a middle sized bead glued on the top.

I recently broke my second last one and tried making new ones but
when I used the acid free craft glue it didn't hold. Could someone
please tell me what glue they would recommend?

I also use these for the occasional bit of pricking in a tight spot.
Many thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS

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[lace] Olympic Tribute to Lace

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Did you see the closing ceremony with the tribute to bobbin lace?  What a
surprise!  And so lovely.  I would have liked to have seen the working side
of the pillow to see if there were really bobbins on it, or just the finished
piece of lace.  Probably just the lace.
Do we have any List members in Brazil?
Alice in Oregon -- where the extreme temps cooled down a bit to just Warm
today.

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[lace] Sewing out

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Thanks, Beverly, for sending me the original message.  I now know that it's
more the last ending threads rather than threads in and out of the main part
of the lace.
Please -- don't use glue on fine lace.
The ending threads -- something we all have to learn to deal with.  A square
knot is usually used to tie off threads.  I have seen (and used0 the triple
knot only on the last 2 threads.  Then.
You can be a practical traditionalist and trim off the last threads and just
leave the ends.  I have seen this in many pictures of laces in books out of
northern Europe.
Or -- You can be a perfectionist and hide those ends by sewing them back into
the lace, following the lines of the lace.  Yes, it's finicky.  And takes
some practice to learn how to best hide that extra thread.
If you explore some of the Finishing books available, you can find some
methods using magic threads that pull the ends back into the lace.  They take
a bit of planning.  Russian Lace has a method of pulling the threads back
into the trail without knots.  I have seen it diagrammed out but don't
remember which books show it.
Be brave and keep practicing.  You will eventually think it no harder than
doing it in the knitting and crochet.
Alice in Oregon -- resting after demo-ing two days in the heat at Harvest
Fest.where I actually made 2 square inches of lace between talking to
people.  They gave us a free lunch for out efforts.   That was nice of
them.

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[lace] Sewing Out - Anchoring threads

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I cannot find the starting message of this series of messages, but it seems
like someone is wanting to put glue on threads ends in a piece of lacewhen
pairs are frequently added and removed..
I don't want hard spots that may turn color in something I've worked many
hours making.  I've never had a thread pull out of something that had threads
added and removed. I anchor the threads when starting in a tight stitch or
with gimp.  A looped pair is easy because it can be looped around another
pair or thread and a pin. If I have two single threads, I tie them and pin the
knot above the place needed.  Enclose the threads in a tightly made pin
stitch.   When ending, I make sure the loose ends go through a firmly
tensioned stitch.  Throw back the bobbins.    Soon, I cut off the bobbins
leaving several inches of thread ends, which are trimmed neatly after the lace
is out of pins.
When I say "go through" a stitch, I mean that I'm using two other pairs to
make the stitch with the new threads being caught tightly in the stitch.  I
may not always do it exactly the same, but here is an example of laying in two
single threads.  I've never seen this in a book so the traditionalists may
want to scold me.
Lay new pair to one side of the stitch pairs.  Make the first part of the
stitch with the two stitch pairs (CTC)   Weave the new pair through both
stitch pairs, twist new pair once at the end.  Insert pin. Tension.  Weave
the new threads  CTC back through both stitch pairs.  Then close the stitch
CTC with the stitch pairs.  Tension firmly.  The new threads should be well
anchored within the stitch so they cannot casually pull out..
 Alice in Oregon -- where it's hot and getting hotter this week.

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Re: [lace] working with a bolster pillow

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My friend does a lot of Idrijan lace on a bolster and has Idrijan bobbins. 
She recently was in Slovenia and took lessons there.  She reports that the
bobbins must be wound left-handed (backwards to us right-handed people). 
Also, the thread does not stay well unless the bobbins are wound full. 

If your desired thread is in limited supply, wind the bobbins half full with
another thread then put your good thread on top.  I have noticed that the
antique bobbins I've gotten from various parts of Europe often have several
different threads on them if I unwind them.   It must be common to leave old
thread on the bobbins and just add the new on top.
I don't remember what my friend said about the hitch she was taught to use. 
I'll see her next Saturday and will try to remember to ask her about hitching
on her Idrijan bobbins.
Alice in Oregon

On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:43 AM, sylvie nguyen
 wrote:


 Hello,
Having just finished my first lace motif on a bolster pillow, I'm in need
of advice.  My Idrija bobbins, wound with linen thread, repeatedly had
"growing" leads (distance between the bobbin and the pillow) on them.  What
do people advise, to maintain shorter leads?

Thank you, in advance, your suggestions.
Sylvie, in hot and humid Cherry Valley, Illinois
USA

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Re: [lace] Wearing and Caring for Lace

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You can find articles about cleaning lace in the Arachne archives.  Please
check there.

I want to point out that there are different viewpoints on cleaning lace, and
things to be considered. Clealning old lace will have different considerations
than new lace.   If you have very delicate and possibly very old lace, you
don't want to use anything that can chemically damage the threads further than
they already are.
Oxyclean is a strong cleaner that I would never use on my old lace.  If you
have a new, modern piece made of new, strong thread, it can probably take that
sort of cleaning occasionally -- BUT you should not plan on this lace lasting
100 years as a family heirloom.  The bleach components of Ozyclean will
gradually eat into the threads.  It should last for many years of use but
will eventually disintegrate. 

When other methods don't work, and the item will have to be discarded if it
can't get cleaned, then you have nothing to lose using a strong cleaner.  If
you have a christening gown that you hope will become a family tradition for
generations, don't use bleach products.
Start your cleaning process with pure water (hopefully with as few chemicals
as possible) and soak the item -- for several days if needed.  Change water
as the item soaks off dirt.  For tougher dirt, the current recommended
cleaner is Orvus.  It has no harsh chemicals.  Use a pea-size bit in a pan
of water, soak item as above with occasional gentile agitation of the item to
move the water through it.  Then put it through as many rinses as needed
"until you are willing to drink the rinse water".  You want to be sure that
no cleaning agents are left in the threads.

Always support wet lace.  It is very fragile when wet, especially if old. 
Spread out flat to air dry.  Avoid putting a hot iron on it.  Heat can also
damage fragile threads.
Again, I suggest checking the archives.  There are some very detailed
messages from experts available for your information.
Alice in Oregon -- off for day 4 of the nine-day county fair duties. 
Yesterday was the longest day so today should be easier.

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[lace] Survey Request

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I am 1C and 2B.
Alice in Oregon -- starting today on a 9-day county fair work marathon. 
Today is Entry Day.

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[lace] Knit In Public Day

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According to my local newspaper, tomorrow June 18 is Worldwide Knit in Public
Day.
The local knitting store promotes it and has people  on the sidewalk outside
the store doing needle arts.  They say all needle crafts are welcome. 

The weather here is supposed to be really nice so I may take my pillow, chair
and table to town.  I've sat with them and made lace the past two or three
years.  It's rather fun to do.  It will be a change from my normal routine.
Alice in Oregon -- where four members of my group just left on a plane headed
for Slovenia and OIDFA.  Wish I could have been with them.

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[lace] Thread Anchor

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I have seen thread anchors which are a flat piece of wood with pinholes
drilled on each end.   We made some for a conference once.  They were about
1/2" wide and 3" inches long.  We did put a small handle on each to hold
while pinning, but it isn't really needed. 

I use a tongue depressor stick which is laid across the threads in front of
the bobbins, and pinned with four pins (two on each side, slanted inwards to
hold the stick tightly to the pillow).  Anything flat and sturdy could work,
as long as you can anchor it to the pillow.  Even a multi-folded piece of
paper would work, with several pins holding it steady.

Wrapping the threads around a pin just next to the head of the bobbins does
work.  If there's a problem keeping the threads straight, use a separate pin
for each thread.  Wrap it once or twice and pin at the head, and it should
not move while working the first half of the threads.  When you switch sides
to start the second half, anchor the first side threads like you did before. 
This will help keep everything in place until the project is well started.
Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] Core ground

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When I read "core ground", my thought was that it was someone's private term
for the central/main/basic stitch, which would be the CTTT pin that is used so
much in Bucks.  I've never heard the term "core ground" before.  it will be
interesting if someone turns up with a special stitch.
Alice in Oregon -- where we face a cool, wet week.


On Saturday, May 21, 2016 9:34 AM, Jeanette Fischer
 wrote:


 A friend is doing a Buck's piece and the instructions use the term "core
ground".  Neither of us have heard the term before and I wondered if anyone
on the list has ever come across this term and how is the ground worked?



Jeanette Fischer

Western Cape, South Africa.

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[lace] OIDFA Congress

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Four people from my lace group are going to OIDFA this year.  The rest of us
are envious.  We hear all about their plans and turn a bit green.  I did get
to go to one in the past and enjoyed it very much.
The OIDFA in 2020 in Estonia intrigues me.  That's far enough away, if I
begin saving now, I might be to save up the funds to be  able to go.  And if
I go that far away from my home, I'd want to look around a bit at some other
places (Copenhagen?) and make a real trip of it.  It gives me a goal to work
for.
Meanwhile, I have a bookmark I need to finish, and some plants to get in the
ground in my garden.

Alice in Oregon (who just returned from a visit to Florida to see the Harry
Potter theme parks.)

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[lace] Happy 21st Birthday

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Arachne had just celebrated it's first year when I joined in May 96.  My DH
got me a computer, set it up, and told me to "type in something".  I typed
"bobbin lace"  and the rest is history.
I have learned so much from all the discussions on the List, and even got to
attend the one and only Arachne Conference in 1998 in Nottingham. That's where
I met Tamara, and also a lacemaker who lives only an hour from my home. 
We've been friends ever since.
Many thanks to Liz for sponsoring Arachne all this time.
Alice in Oregon -- where our sunshine has gone away and it's raining again.

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[lace] Rauma lace and Kortelahti

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>I only know that Rauma was an important bobbin lace making area. I think the
>lace was largely torchon with some guipure elements. I suspect Kortelahti's
>work style derives from that tradition.
I have a couple books of Rauma lace patterns but I don't have them right at
hand.  My memory of reading them is that Rauma lace is on the Torchon
style.  The thing I remember best is that they figured out  that most
edgings tend to pull up a bit on the footside and ruffle slightly on the
headside.  They wanted flat handkerchiefs with flat lace, so worked out a
solution.  Their corners are a few degrees off of 90 degrees.  When the lace
is forced to fit a 90 degree corner, it flattens out that extra bit of
ruffle.
Kortelahti's style is based on the Early 20th Century Dutch Lace
development.  When I got that book, I could see elements of the Kortelahti
lace all through it.  My guess is that she learned from someone who learned
from the Dutch school.  She adds some of her own tweeks to it.  I have done
lots of her lace, and some from the Dutch book.  It's probably my favorite
style of lace, though I do a bit of many kinds.
Alice in Oregon -- where we are having (finally) a week of sunshine.

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Re: [lace] Working an edging on a roller pillow

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I need to modify my description of using a change stitch to trade passive and
worker threads.  Doing CTTC will change both sets of threads. I like to
change only one at a time when preventing passive threads from being able to
ruffle..  When doing CTC, add a second twist to only the left OR right set of
threads, not both.  With careful tensioning, this single extra twist will
disappear.
If the worker thread is much longer than the passive thread, they can be
traded back to their original places in a row or two. 

Preventing extreme ruffling by trading out threads will not guarantee a
perfectly straight edging.  A simple woven edge will need less space than
many decorative headside patterns, which will result in a slightly curved
edging when off the pins.  I don't know how to prevent this.
Alice in Oregon


On Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:29 AM, Susan  wrote:


 Hello All!  While working my Springett edging, I inadvertently "gathered"
the footside while tensioning the passives.  Is there a clever way to avoid
this?  Or is this an inherent risk when using a roller after the first part
of the lace has been completed?  Even after smoothing the lace, my edging was
no longer flat.  Using the roller is easier (for me) than moving up the lace,
but I obviously have not developed a gentle hand when tensioning!  Any
suggestions?  I did not find this topic specifically addressed in the
archives.  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA

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Re: [lace] Working an edging on a roller pillow

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The gathered edge is a common effect on edgings.  The passive pairs just lie
straight while the rest of the threads have twists and various weaving actions
that cannot be tensioned quite as compactly.  The passive pairs need a
lighter hand with tensioning but it's very hard to so.  I usually have a
tight tension so may have more problem with gathering than someone with a
lighter tension.
Here is another solution.

There is no rule that you have to leave the same threads as the passive pair
throughout the whole project.
I've had the gathered edge problem and could not leave the pins in very long
so started changing my passive threads every two inches.  I changed one
thread at a time by doing a change stitch (CTTC) instead of a cloth stitch
(CTC) as i worked toward the edge.  i'd wait 2-3 rows before changing the
second passive thread.  If there's more than one passive pair, I'd do the
next pair a few rows later. If you tension carefully on the row with the
change, it will not show in the finished project.  Changing out both (or all)
threads in the same row might show, but doing one at a time will not.

In that project, I had 2-3 inches of pins so I was changing the threads before
the edge was out of the pins.  If you have a smaller pin area, change
sooner.  If you do tension tightly, the pins will protect the threads in the
short space since the threads were traded. Gathering is impossible past the
point the threads were changed.
Happy lacingAlice in Oregon -- where we have one rain storm after another. 

On Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:29 AM, Susan  wrote:


 Hello All!  While working my Springett edging, I inadvertently "gathered"
the footside while tensioning the passives.  Is there a clever way to avoid
this?  Or is this an inherent risk when using a roller after the first part
of the lace has been completed?  Even after smoothing the lace, my edging was
no longer flat.  Using the roller is easier (for me) than moving up the lace,
but I obviously have not developed a gentle hand when tensioning!  Any
suggestions?  I did not find this topic specifically addressed in the
archives.  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA

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[lace] Bucks pt Garter

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I've lost the original email about the Garter so I'm replying generally.
I wanted to remind people that a special pattern is not required.  Any edging
in the width desired can be used.
There are a variety of versions of garters.  One is just one strip of lace
attached to a double thickness of ribbon with elastic inserted in the
ribbon.  The ribbon can be decorated with embroidery or tiny ribbon flowers,
etc.
A popular version has two strips of lace with the double ribbon and elastic
between them.
The key to a garter is the size.  It's best to be able to measure the leg
it's for.  Make the garter a bit larger so it can be easier slid on and
off.  If it's a fitted gown, the garter can't have much bulk because it's not
supposed to show through the gown.
My computer is down so I have only a borrowed laptop that does strange
things.  I hope this message comes through normally.  Somehow, on my screen,
it has enlarged all the letters.  I hope my new computer is ready soon.
Alice in Oregon -- wet and windy winter weather with a few sun breaks.

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Re: [lace] Using a pin pusher as a pin puller

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The pin pusher in discussion is the narrow metal rod with a dimple in the end
of the metal.  A caution, though. There are two versions of this made by
different people.    One has the dimple curving in from the edge of the
metal rod.  The other has a tiny straight-walled section cut in the rod in
front of the curved dimple.  It's the second one that works well as a pin
lifter.  The tiny straight section will catch under the edge of the pin head
for lifting.  The first kind has no edge to catch on the pin.  It is much
more difficult to lift pins with.
Another caution to new lacemakers.  One common pin lifter looks like the
forked tongue of a snake.  Be very careful with this one.  It's very easy to
catch a point under a thread instead of just under the pinhead.  It can cut
the thread when lifting the pin.
Of course, you can skip using either of these tools if your pattern is
completely finished.  Use the Cantu method -- just grab the edges of the
pricking and lift the whole thing off the pillow.  It takes a tug, but the
pins are much easier to remove from the project when not stuck in the
pillow.  If it's a large project, lift one corner or section at a lime. 
When the teacher demonstrated this in class, I thought of all the pins I had
laboriously pulled out of projects over the years.

Happy lacing,Alice in Oregon -- where we had lots of rain interspersed with
brief glimpses of the sun.  PS -- My lace exhibit is now up in Tillamook,
Oregon, for the next two months.


 On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:15 PM, Susan 
wrote:


 Hello All!  Just wanted to share a hint I learned from Louise Colgan--use
the pin pusher sort of sideways to lift pins.  Since it is a smooth
cylindrical surface, it doesn't have little "feet" to disturb your lace. 
Just slip the lip of the pusher under the edge of your pin head.  Hope this
helps Julia with her scarf adventure.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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[lace] Oregon Exhibit

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Yesterday I set up the lace exhibit at Latimer Quilt and Textile Center in
Tillamook, Oregon.  It will be there the months of November and December.
Visitors to the Oregon coast who stop by will find a whole room filled with
lace -- both antique and modern.  I forgot to take pictures but I'll be back
next Sunday for the Open House and plan to take pictures then.
Since several of my pillows with works in progress are in the exhibit, I'm
trying to figure out what lace to work on at home the next 2 months.  Yes,
there's few Christmas ornaments for the exchange, but that won't take all my
lacing time.  I think maybe Miss Channers Mat  will come to the top of the
list.
Alice in Oregon -- having a lovely day between storm fronts

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Re: [lace] Cookie pillow question, and digest

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Yes, the List has been very quiet for a while.  Thanks for posting.
I don't the the historical answer to your question, but wanted to make some
comments on pillows.
There are many styles of pillows -- flat, cookies, round balls, bolsters of
various sizes and shapes, roller pillows in a variety of sizes and shapes. 
Lace developed all over Europe in the days when communication was much more
difficult than today.  The style of lace varied, and the bobbins and pillows
used in an area were developed by the people in that area to suit their lace
type.  The threads available to a region varied.   It's easy to imagine how
variations in equipment styles would develop as people found out what worked
best for themselves.

The cookie pillow does seem to appear mainly in the UK, but the continental
seagrass pillow is much the same shape.  Which came first?

Pictures of early UK lacemakers often show big round balls of pillows.  My
imagination can see someone saying that  since only the top portion of the
pillow was used, so why not make a pillow the shape of the top portion only. 
That would result in a sort of cookie pillow. 

Parallel to the pillow development was bobbin development.  When and how did
the Midlands bobbin develop?  They are used on cookie pillows but are not
suitable for bolsters.  Which came first -- cookies or Midlands?  Did they
develop together?
So -- I did not answer your question, but just make it bigger. I will be
watching for comments from those of you who know about one pillow or another.
Alice in Oregon -- starting a week of mostly sunshine and warm for October. 
Will be spending the next 3 weeks getting ready for my lace exhibit at Latimer
Textile Center in Nov and Dec. Wish it was closer to all of you so you could
see it.



 On Monday, October 12, 2015 11:49 AM, Sally Jenkins
 wrote:


 Hello lacers,

It seems I have not received the digest in several days. Has there been no
activity, or have I been inadvertently dropped? (I will find out if I see
this message posted, right?)

I have been wondering about the history and/or development of the cookie
pillow and its use. It seems all over Europe except for the U.K., the
bolster is the primary way of making lace, but in the U.K. and the U.S.,
the cookie pillow is customary. What caused the change? Maybe this is
addressed in a book someone can point me to.

Just curious,
Sally

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[lace-chat] My new single life continues

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The list has been quiet.  We need some more conversations started. 

Here is some more of what's happening with me.

My deceased DH left supposedly six cars, about 12 scooter or motorcycles, and
3 storage units.  I'm rid of all of them, except for some paperwork.  I made
one phone call to a man who took some of it, and knew someone who would take
the rest of it.  And the bonus part of the bargain was cleaning out the shop,
garage and basement.  I have bare floors that I haven't seen in 30 years. 
I'm setting up my woodworking tools in the shop and have the garden tools in
the garage.  The basement will have some shelving with limited storage area
for Christmas decorations, and such.
I should explain -- after selling the six cars, I learned I owned two more. 
One was a dune buggy and I gave it away.  The other is a Lloyd Auto in poor
condition.  I have two offers to buy it but haven't received real bids on it
yet.  I'm still trying to find paperwork on the thing.  I think DH was going
to fix it up and give it to me as a surprise.  It could be a really cute
little car.

I'm actually using the back door through the garage and shop to exit and enter
when the car is parked on the parking pad instead of in the street.  It's a
much shorter route, especially when it's raining.  It does confuse the cats
when i enter from the back instead of the front door.  The charger for the
electric car is back there so it has be be parked there a couple nights a week
for recharging.

Tuesday the electrician is coming to install plug-ins in the shop so I can run
the equipment, and to check out some lights that don't work so I can see at
night..
Now --- I just need to find an elf to magically go through the boxes of stuff
DH left in the house.   I don't think he ever threw anything away.
The memorial service has been set for Oct. 10.  I don't look forward to that
day, but I think the service is needed.  DH was very well known and well
liked all over town.  I expect a large crowd so am using the Museum Chapel
that seats 150 in the pews and has room for 100 extra chairs.   The
reception will be at my church and I don't expect all the attendees to come to
it.  At least, I hope they don't all come.  That space would be really
packed if all come.  It will be interesting whom the church gets to handle
the reception since usually I'm the person they come to.  And my assistant
will be out of town.

Since DH's family is a long way away from here, I don't expect more than 5 of
them to come.  Maybe only 2.  There could be from 3 to 10 of my family
attending.  The church, Kiwanis, Downtown Association, Museum volunteers, 
and local theater people will make up most of the crowd. A few of my lace
friends will come.
Meanwhile, I'm trying to maintain a normal schedule of activities --  like
the demo yesterday at the historical museum.  I just finished the
third-from-last square of my tablecloth.  Only two squares to go!!! 
Tomorrow I can sew it into the main cloth, and rewind the bobbins for the next
square.  I have only five weeks before my lace exhibit, and lots to do to
prepare for it.  I'll have three weeks to concentrate on it after the
memorial service.  That will have to be enough time.  There's lace meetings
on Sep 26 and Oct 1. And our annual Lace Day is Oct. 3.  It will be a busy
week.
Keep lacing.  It can keep you sane with the whole world seems to turn upside
down.
Alice in Oregon

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[lace-chat] Sudden life change - chapter two

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Thank you for all the good wishes.  It was nice to hear from the many who
responded.

No -- DH was not really  ill, just normal getting-older complaints.  He went
to sleep and did not wake up.  It was probably sleep appnea.  It's a sudden
shock, but an easy way for him to go.  I have good days and not-so-good
days.  There will be more good ones as I adjust to being single.  I'm not
letting it stop me from living.  I'm keeping my normal schedule of church and
lace activities.  They help me adjust.  I'm just too stubborn and
independent to let this ruin my life.

Dh was a collector of Volkswagens and all their parts.  He used to be a VW
mechanic.  The problem was that he never threw anything away.  We have lived
in this house for 44 years, so you maybe can imagine  what his spaces looked
like. . 

I know a person should not make major changes/moves after a death in the
family.  I'm not moving.  I'll live out my life in this house, and will take
my time inside the house to sort out his things.  Being left with a huge pile
of cars, car parts, motorcycles and who-knows-what-else was overwhelming. 
Our friend who buys and sells old cars was a huge blessing.  He not only
bought some of the cars and cycles and other stuff, he knew a person who would
take all the VW things.  As part of the pay, they would clean out the shop,
garage and basement, leaving bare floor -- except for anything I wanted to
keep.
I'm keeping my woodworking tools, garden tools, and just a few other things. 
The peace of mind with having all that other stuff gone is worth pure gold.
I have since found out there's two more cars.  One, I think the VW guy will
take -- it's just a chassis.  The other is still a mystery.  I don't know if
DH owns it or not.  I found title-change papers filled out but not turned
in.  However, there were parts to the car in the shop.  A couple days ago I
learned the name of the person who has the car.  Now, at least, I can contact
him and find out more. 

I have several days ( a long holiday weekend) before the guys come back to
finish the clean-out.  I can sort out the few things I'm keeping, and have
them set aside.  I'll let the guys move my saw table from the basement to the
shop.  Since it's cleaned out, I'll use the nicer place for my woodshop.
Thanks again for your kind thoughts.Alice in Oregon

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[lace-chat] My sudden life change - long

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My husband didn't wake up last week.  Suddenly I had a new set of challenges
to deal with -- and a big adjustment.
Things are proceeding much faster than I expected.  My DH had seven cars,
that I knew of, and 8-9 motorcycles - all in various state of repairs.  He
also had three storage units, 2 of which was stuff from our old business.  I
contacted a friend who deals with old cars.  He took a look at the 
vehicles, engines, parts and junk.  He bought three of the cars and all the
motorcycles -- with the promise to clean out my shop, garage and basement of
the junk so we can see the good stuff.  He has the equipment and team of guys
to do the work.

Then he looked at the two storage units and contacted an auction dealer who
might take charge of the whole thing -- sell it off and give me a
percentage.  I'll be seeing him tomorrow.
Then my friend brought in a person interested in the three volkswagens and all
the VW bits and pieces.  He gave me a bid and I accepted.  Between these two
guys, they will leave me with a shop, garage and basement that has ONLY the
things I want in them -- like my garden tools and a few woodworking tools. 
Unbelievable  My biggest nightmare has turned into a dream.

I earlier noted that there were seven cars, that I knew of.  I have since
learned of a dune buggy he owned, parked elsewhere, and the possibility of a
Lloyd auto.  I found some references to one, and the guys have found several
parts in the shop that are from a Lloyd.  I also found a brand new set of
license plates, Special Interest ones, that the Motor Vehicle Dept has no
record of belonging to him.  Maybe the police can help me find what they are
supposed to be for.
The seventh car is a new car that I really can't afford to keep.  It's an
all-electric car.  I contacted the local salesman of that type of car, and he
will see what the dealership will offer me.  It if were paid for, i'd keep if
around for fun and local driving, but I figured out that I can pay for
gasoline for a year in my own car for the amount of one month's car payment. 
It's not practical to keep it.  It was worth the cost for the pleasure it
gave my DH the past few years, but not practical for me alone.
Oh yes -- the third storage unit.  When I got in it to take a look, it had
only two items in it -- neither of which I had any use for.  I officially
abandoned the items to the storage people, and gave them the key to the
lock.  They will put the items in their next auction or dispose of them.
I can't believe all this has happened in a week.  I still have to notify
investment and insurance companies and a bank.  I'm sure something else will
turn up that needs to be done.  I'll wait a bit  to have a memorial
service.  I'm thinking that it will be at the Air Museum Chapel since he
spent so much time at the museum.
Meanwhile, i will spend today at State Fair, making lace, and tomorrow is
regular lace meeting day.  Everything else can wait until Friday.  Fair
attendance is apt to be light today -- it's rainy weather.  Tomorrow the Fair
has 25-cent admission fee.  That's the cost 150 years ago at the first fair,
so they are celebrating the anniversary with the same price.  The weather is
supposed to be better, also.
Keep making lace -- it's very  calming.Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Pins

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As a beginner, I was told to leave the pins in overnight.  I think this was
a general rule to cover the chance that the thread being used took longer to
conform than usual.  I have seen a bookmark that had the last inch curled
when the rest of it lay flat.  I contributed this to the final pins being
removed immediately.  I may or may not have been correct.
In my experience, a good thread conforms to shape very fast.  Working a
narrow edging on a roller pillow has the lace falling free of the pin area in
2-3 hours.  I never saw any difference between those sections and the ones
that stayed pinned for weeks. 

To support this fast-conforming idea is the rule I was told about making
leaves.  If I make a leaf and it's bad so I take it out, use a different
worker thread on the second try.  The incorrect bends put in the worker
thread on the first try are still in the fiber memories.  Use a new worker
that has not been 'bent'.  That first leaf was shaped for only a few minutes
yet that was long enough to make that thread difficult to re-shape.

Conversely, when I end a bookmark with a tail of the threads, I want the
threads to lie straight.  They have been wrapped on bobbins for an unknown
length of time and will curl if cut off.  I unwind  them for 6-8 inches,
pull them straight, dampen them, and pin them down firmly.  Then let them
stay there at least overnight.  This is forcibly removing the 'curl' set into
the threads by being wound on the bobbins so I give them plenty of time to be
re-educated.
So --- my conclusion is that it depends on the thread.  That's hard to
explain to a beginner.  I think that's why my first teacher told us to leave
it sit overnight.  It didn't hurt the good thread to sit, and gave a chance
for a poor thread  to conform.  Beginners have a greater chance of using a
thread that's not the best quality.
Alice in Oregon -- where it's very hot this weekend. It's been a very warm
year so far, setting many heat records.

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Re: [lace] Bobbin storage

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After years of putting bobbins in small cabinets with little drawers, plastic
shoe boxes, and even plastic bags, I decided I needed something better.
I bought a vertical cabinet with seven drawers.  Midlands went in the top
drawer, and continentals were sorted by size and style into the other
drawers.  A style with only a few were bundled with elastic bands.  Large
quantities were loose in a drawer.  One drawer is just the odd bobbins that
don't match any set.  (It's surprising how many odd bobbins I have
accumulated.)

This cabinet works quite well  -- as long as I have several projects in
process on the shelf!!  It I stripped all my pillows, these drawers would not
hold them.  I think I may need a second cabinet.
After ending some projects recently, my midlands drawer was over-full.  I had
to put the bobbins neatly in plastic baggies so they could lie flat and
straight before they would fit.  I'm still missing a bunch of my favorite
midlands, so I'm sure there's a project or two on my shelf with midlands.  (I
have enough to do Miss Channers mat, so that project is on my list to do next
year.)

I bought a similar cabinet for my lace tools and threads.  It was amazing how
many thread spools I have now that they are collected into one place.  I
sorted the cotton, linen and other threads.  Now it's easier to 'shop' for
thread for a project.  ( I wish I had inventoried them before going to lace
conference.  I managed to buy duplicate spools of some sizes of thread.)
When I started lacemaking, I never dreamed I would acquire this many pillows,
bobbins, etc. Storage of supplies can indeed be a challenge.
Alice in Oregon -- in the middle of a record-setting heat wave.  PNW Lace
Conference went very well.  Now I can rest up.


 On Friday, June 26, 2015 2:29 PM, Web lbuy...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 I am wondering how you store your bobbins when they are not in use?  Are you
storing English Midlands or Continentals?

I just finished a project.  For the first time (probably in my life) I do not
have any bobbins on a pillow.  I discovered that I have many more bobbins
than places to store them.  Since I am going to the IOLI Convention this year
I am going to try not to start anything new.  I have plenty of embroidery to
work on so I won't be idle for the next month.
Liz R
Raleigh, NC, USA

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Re: [lace] Sweet Briar College to Stay Open

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Our TV news said that it will be open for the next year while waiting for a
judge's decision on litigation.  Keep your fingers crossed that it will be in
the college's favor.
it's a lovely campus.  I enjoyed the two Sweet Briar Retreats that I was able
to attend.
Alice in Oregon -- where we just finished the PNW Lace Conference.  We had a
good time, good weather, good food, and good friends.  I learned the correct
way to make a rolled tally.  It looks so nice when done right.



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  jeria...@aol.com wrote:
Buried deep in today's Maine Sunday Telegram is an Associated Press news 
story:
*Settlement sustains women's college in rural Virginia*.

What wonderful news, Jeri!  Lucky for us you have such an eagle eye--thanks
for letting us know.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Be yourself.  After all, everyone else is already taken.
source unknown (by me)

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[lace] Knit in Puble Day

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Tomorrow, June13, is Knit in Public Day in the USA.  The local knitting group
is planning to sit outside the knitting shop most of the day, knitting.  They
have invited crocheters and spinners -- all forms of fiber art.  They didn't
mention 'lace' but last year two of us joined them and made lace while they
knitted.  Tomorrow is rather busy, but I want to try to go down a few hours
in the afternoon and sit with them, just to promote lacemaking.
International Lace Day next week is the last day of Lace Conference.  I'll be
in the last session of class, packing up, and traveling home.  Lacing in
public is just no in the program.  Perhaps next year I can do both Knit Day
and Lace Day.
Alice in Oregon -- where it's lovely weather right now and I'm indoors working
on my last minute Lace Conference chores.

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[lace] Copying a brown pattern

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I have a brown pattern I wanted to copy.  Yes, I know they were printed that
way to discourage copies, but I like to have an extra copy for study and
marking.  I accidentally found a way to copy it when I gave it a try on my
printer.  Copied with just black ink was impossible to use.  My color
cartridge was running out of ink.   I tried copying on color and discovered
that with the colored ink gone, the background became plain white and the
black pattern dots printed neatly.
I may just save the empty cartridges in case I have another brown pattern I
need to copy.  Changing out cartridges is a minor nuisance for the great
result achieved.
Alice in Oregon -- nine days and counting for the Northwest Conference. 
Getting the last minute things ready keeps me busy.

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Re: [lace] weekly insertions edgings on Gon's site

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Pattern 11/2015 is interesting.  Yes, you will have at least three weavers at
any one time -- one on each edge and one or two in the ribbon.  At times, you
will have a section of half stitch and a section of cloth stitch going at the
same time so the center might have two weavers..
The weaver on each side is a steady weaver.  You can use the same pair all
the way down.  All of the center pairs (all except the outside edges) will
alternate between passives and weavers.    Each edge has two passives and a
weaver, so a total of six pairs.   The other 22 pairs may or may not be a
weaver at some point in the pattern.  All of these pairs should be wound with
plenty of thread so you don't have to worry about running out no matter which
pair or thread ends up as a weaver .
Starting -- depends on what you want to do with the lace.  if the ends will
be sewn into a seam and hidden, or you are just making a sample, you can just
pick a spot on the pattern and start (Like in the sample on the webpage.)  If
you want to make a bookmark of the pattern, you can hand all the bobbins along
a straight line, work a row or two of cloth stitch all the way across, and
then start the pattern across a straight line.
Use your judgement on hanging on the pairs.  If two pairs start at the same
point, use one pin.  If the pairs are separate, use separate pins.  On this
pattern, the outside edges will have a passive and a weaver pair on the first
pin, and a single pair on the second pin.  The straight line passives are
really two pairs braided (which separate when part of the half stitch ribbon)
so hang the two pairs on one pin.  The cloth stitch section in the middle can
be double hung. or single hung -- your choice.

 If you start with the rows of cloth stitch all the way across, you can just
hang all the pairs evenly across the edging, work the cloth stitch, and then
ease the pairs into position as you start the pattern.
As for the X's -- they just mark the area where the half stitch sections
start and end, where you change your stitch.
Good luck and have fun.Alice in Oregon --- just three weeks until PNW Lace
Conference so am very busy with last minute activities.  Registration still
open.


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 Hello All!  Is anyone else working thru some of these?  Today, I'm
attempting #11/2015, the Dutch lace with half stitch/whole stitch ribbons. 
It is quite charming  the mix of half  whole stitch  seems like it will
bring out the character of my aquamarine colored linen thread.  My current
conundrums are:  1) how many weavers, 2) how  where to hang in all the
passives since it is not a straight start  3) what do the two large Xs on the
pattern mean?  On the supplemental diagram, it looks like passives switch to
weavers  vice versa.  Looking at the finished lace, it almost seems like
there are 3 regular workers--one on each edge (that sew into the ribbons) 
another to get the intertwined ribbons started down the center.  It's not
clear to me whether the passives should be hung two pairs per pin, singly on a
line or some combination thereof.  And the two big Xs are a total 
mystery!  I've checked Practical Skills  reviewed some of my previous
projects but can't find an!
 ything that looks similar.  How do I diagnose what I need to do?  Or should
I work a few rows of cloth stitch just to get going, then try to assign the
various pairs to the pattern on the fly?  Does anyone have some sage
advice?  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA, not giving up
yet!

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[lace] Bolster Pillow

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Using a pool noodle does give a good base to a roller or bolster if it has
enough layers of wool to take the brunt of the pins.  I bought a pillow with
a roller that gave out in 2-3 yards of lace work.  When i took it apart, it
had a pool noodle without any wrappings. An inch of wool wrappings would have
made a great difference in the life of the roller.

I think I remember seeing 5-6 inch pool noodles in the store previous years. 
You might watch for the larger size if you want a fat bolster.
The main thing I wanted to comment on is the lightness of the foam bolster. 
A light bolster could roll easily when tensioning threads.  A well-fitting
basket, box or stand would give support.  I suggest putting a layer of rubber
shelf lining between the bolster and the holder.  This shelf lining is
usually available at dollar stores or even the market.  It's thin but
provides a non-slip surface.
I have a vague memory of seeing or reading about a temporary bolster support
on a table.  A large towel was rolled up from both ends until the rolls
almost met.  It was turned over so the rolls were down on the table, and the
bolster sat in the valley between the rolls. Add a layer of the rubber shelf
lining, and it might make a usable, portable bolster support.  I haven't
tried it.  Is anyone on Arachne familiar with this idea?
Alice in Oregon -- on my way to check out the final arrangements for the
Northwest Lace Conference next month.  Preparations are well advanced for a
great conference.  See portlandlacesociety.com for details. Registration is
still open.

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[lace] Arachne Aniversay

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Arachne was started April 12, 1995 by Liz Reynolds. She has maintained it all
these years, even when she was too busy to read the messages. Many thanks to
Liz.
There has been nothing said about commemoratives this year. I think it's been
a year or two or more since we had any. It was always a lot of work for
someone when we had them, though it was fun for the rest of us.
April 12 is on a Sunday.  We can make it Arachne Day, and all plan to make at
least a little lace that day -- and toast Arachne.
I have learned so much over the years from this List and it's many people.
Thanks to everyone for the education and encouragement. 
Alice in Oregon -- where it's pouring outside right now.

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[lace] Add Color to lace edging

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I think you could add one color to this week's edging. It would be the cloth
stitch ribbon down the center. You would have to add a color pair at the pin
that starts the ribbon strip (where a passive pair normally turns and becomes
the ribbon worker) and let the intended worker pair be an extra passive pair
down the ribbon. At the bottom-most pin, lay back the colored pair. At the
next center ribbon section, lay the colored pair back in. 

It's easier for trimming off the threads later if the laid back pair loops
around some pins before being used again. Another point is to be sure that the
pin stitch where the inserted pair starts or stops is a firm stitch so the
colored ends cannot come loose.
I have done two large projects where a colored pair was inserted and thrown
out. One was a scarf that gets lots of handling, and I've not yet had the
colored pair come loose so I know it can be done.
Give it a try.Alice in Oregon -- where we have a gray, rainy day after weeks
of mostly sun

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[lace] major disaster

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My friend made a round tablecloth. The instructions on the outside ring listed
the wrong number of repeats. It was too small by one repeat when she tried to
assemble the rings. She had to cut it open next to the start/finish line,
remove the old tie-off threads, wind and sew on a new set in the loops of the
start, and make a couple repeats. This then required the overlap method of
finishing to attach the new section to the old neatly. She had no choice of
method since this ring had to fit around the previous ring on the cloth.

If you stretch/shrink the lace to fit, it will revert to the original size
when it's washed. You have two choices to make it look good. One is to do as
listed above, and make another repeat. The other is to  cut the long side,
overlap the edges one repeat worth, and sew together in the overlap method.
Since both methods will require the same type of overlap finishing, it would
be faster to shorten the long side instead of making more lace to lengthen the
short side. It depends on the item you are putting the lace on, which way
would be best. Do you need the full length of the long side?  Or will the
shorter length work?
Best wishes to the project.
Alice in Oregon -- where it's gray, no sun, just fog all day.

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[lace] Identification of a type of lace

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is anyone able to tell me which type of lace this is?
I haven't got a clue, so any info is appreciated!

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/stevienixed/15811206704
According to Kurella's Guide to Lace and Linens, this mesh is Maglia de
Spagna, or Spanish Point.
It appears in some Italian and Spanish lacesl, and some Torchon, usually
peasant-style laces, not high fashion.
It's an uncommon mesh, seen occasionally in 18th century Italian and some
Spanish laces.  Usually a relatively coarse mesh used in household laces. 
Since it's not high fashion, it's hard to date.
Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace-chat] Joining

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Somewhere, in one of your lace group libraries, should be a copy of Het
Lassen en Aannaaien van Kant or Joining and Attaching Lace by Louise
Allis-Viddeleer.
It is the thesis she wrote that was published, though I don't know how many
copies.  The front of it also says:Lace Teacher Training kantentrum
Bruges14th pormotion, 19th June 1993Pormotor:  Martine Bruggeman
There was a separate English translation published with it.
It contains detailed instructions and diagrams for overlap joining of many
different styles of lace.
It's a bit rare to find, but there may be a copy in the library of the Lace
Guild or one of the local guilds in your area.  If anyone ever sees a copy on
sale, grab it.  It's worth it's weight in gold if you are trying the skill
for the first time.
By the way -- it sounds a lot scarier than it really is.  The main hint is to
be sure you work plenty of overlap length to give the best choice of pathways
across the lace for the joining.  Do at least a full repeat, or even two if
the repeats are small.  More if your start was rather messy and you want to
bypass the first few inches.
Alice in Oregon

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 Having nearly come to the end of a very long term project of a wide
tablecloth edging, I have been contemplating joining it by the overlap method
as I have been told how neat it looks, the problem is I don't know how.  Has
anyone on Arachne ever worked this method and knows where can I get
instructions?
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.


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[lace] Northwest LaceIf you Conference

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Online registration is now open for the Pacific Northwest Lace Conference June
18-21 in Newberg, Oregon.  All the details of the classes, teachers, and
activities are on the webpage portlandlacesociety.com.
If you have questions, contact either me or the person listed on the
webpage.  We hope to see some of you there.
Alice in Oregon -- where it's wet and warm, at least for mid winter.

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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Joining

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Somewhere, in one of your lace group libraries, should be a copy of Het
Lassen en Aannaaien van Kant or Joining and Attaching Lace by Louise
Allis-Viddeleer.
It is the thesis she wrote that was published, though I don't know how many
copies.  The front of it also says:Lace Teacher Training kantentrum
Bruges14th pormotion, 19th June 1993Pormotor:  Martine Bruggeman
There was a separate English translation published with it.
It contains detailed instructions and diagrams for overlap joining of many
different styles of lace.
It's a bit rare to find, but there may be a copy in the library of the Lace
Guild or one of the local guilds in your area.  If anyone ever sees a copy on
sale, grab it.  It's worth it's weight in gold if you are trying the skill
for the first time.
By the way -- it sounds a lot scarier than it really is.  The main hint is to
be sure you work plenty of overlap length to give the best choice of pathways
across the lace for the joining.  Do at least a full repeat, or even two if
the repeats are small.  More if your start was rather messy and you want to
bypass the first few inches.
Alice in Oregon

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wrote:


 Having nearly come to the end of a very long term project of a wide
tablecloth edging, I have been contemplating joining it by the overlap method
as I have been told how neat it looks, the problem is I don't know how.  Has
anyone on Arachne ever worked this method and knows where can I get
instructions?
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.


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[lace] Butterfly project

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Since it's been quiet on the list, I'll make some comments on the butterfly
I've been making the past three weeks.
It's 18 inches wide.  Originally, it came from a Bayeaux pattern that's four
inches wide.  This is the working diagram for the tiny butterfly.  To deal
with the large size, I'm using size 20 crochet thread with perle cotton gimp.

 I'm heartily glad that I'm not trying to make the tiny pattern from this
diagram.  I haven't counted, but I'm guessing I have about 60 pairs going at
one time and 6-10 gimp.  Even with every thread pathway drawn out, it's slow
going in places.  Plus I've found a few mistakes -- such as a 3 pair crossing
that had 3 pairs coming in but only two going out.  Some gimp lines are drawn
in such a way that's it's impossible to work the way it's marked. I've become
very good at adding a pair when one was needed, and throwing out extras.

I have one Bayeaux book that I read through before starting since it's been
probably 15 years since I did a Bayeaux project.  But the author of this
pattern never read this book. G  The butterfly is full of three-pair
crossings but the book has none listed.  I had to guess on how that stitch
was made. (Hey... maybe I invented a new crossing!!)
I'm 2/3 done at the moment.  I've spent a lot of hours on this since
Christmas since my DH has been under the weather, so I stayed home with him,
and then our weather turned very cold -- below freezing for several days. Good
lacemaking weather.  By the time DH was feeling better and the weather had
warmed up, he had kindly shared his bug with me, so now I'm staying home for
myself.  I figured this was a good way to spend the next several days.  Who
knows By the time I've got rid of the bug, the butterfly might be
finished.
If you want to see my butterfly, you'll have to come to the June18-21 Lace
Conference in Oregon.  After all this work, I'll be showing it off there.
(Check the webpage portlandlacesociety.com for details and info on the
conference.)
Alice in Oregon -- under very foggy skies but no rain.

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Re: [lace] pattern for a large star

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My star experiences have been in the 3-5 inch range, but I can imagine one a
bit bigger.  I think you could take any star pattern you like and enlarge it
to the size you want.  Adjust the size of thread to fit the new size, and
make it.
For the top of a tree, I can see various ways of mounting it.  One is to
insert a string or ribbon through lace at the center back and tie it to the
tree top.  Another is to make two stars and sew them together leaving the
bottom open.  The third is to make a paper cone or cylinder and attach the
angel to it.
Any star you make should look lovely on your tree.
Alice in Oregon -- where it's supposed to pour rain for the next two days. 
Good time for making lace.




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wrote:


 I was wondering if anyone has made a large bobbin lace star that could be
used at the top of a Christmas tree - a star perhaps six inches across. If
you have tried this, does it look as good as you had hoped? And where did
you find a pattern?

Looking forward to your comments,
Regina Haring
Nanuet, NY

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[lace] Lace received

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Yesterday I received two Christmas exchanges.  Both were on handmade cards. 
Lorri Ferguson and Dawn Podsiad are both very creative people.  I hope
pictures were sent to Jenny so you all can see the torchon decorated Christmas
ball and the bangle enclosed lace star. 

Each lace ornament is lovely  Thank you so much. I'm proud to show them off
at the next lace meeting and display them in my home.
Alice in Oregon --  where plans are moving forward for Lace Conference June
18-21, 2015 in Newberg, Oregon.  Check the Portland Lace Society webpage for
details.

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Re: [lace] Simple needlelace question

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I've had just enough needlelace experience to be dangerous. G I was taught
by an expert, but arthritis makes my results nothing to brag about.

No, the threads lie differently going the two directions.  It's the nature of
the stitch.  That might be one reason the stitch was developed that works
across the row, then returns with a straight line back to the start, then the
next row of stitches overlaps the straight row.  It makes a more solid fill
stitch and all the stitches are alike.  This would sooth the soul of the
person who has to have everything lined up neatly.
However, by the time an area is worked over and back until filled, then
threads all blend together and the very slight difference between the two
directional stitches is not noticed.

So, just plunge right in and enjoy your lace.  I'm sure you're doing just
fine.
Alice in Oregon -- where it's been raining for 3 days and won't stop for
another 4 or more.  Been doing lots of lace.

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wrote:


 Dear Needlelace Gurus, I have a really basic question. I've received
conflicting answers from 'experts' so I'm now confused. When you are making
the 'buttonhole' stitch from right to left, is it supposed to look identical
to when made from left to right or is it supposed to be the opposite? I do
hope that this makes sense! Many thanks in advance ...

Regards, Helen.

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Re: [lace] Another needlelace question

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Needlelace 'technique' would not transfer to bobbin lace, but the 'style' of
the finished item was copied.  You just need to look at the old pieces of
Reticella to see the similarity in the designs.  Then bobbin lace makers
started exploring their own capabilities and a wide variety of styles appeared
across Europe.  The reverse was also true.  As new styles of lace became
popular, the needlelace people adapted their patterns to produce a similar
look so they could compete in the marketplace.
Alice in Oregon


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jeane...@maxitec.co.za wrote:


 The designs for needlelace were often copied in machine made lace but was
the technique of needlelace ever copied as in some of the bobbin laces??

Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.

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[lace] Cantu lace books

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Apart from Mary McPeek (and I did a course with her years ago at Ithaca), 
there are publications by Vera Cockuyt on Cantu and another called Lavori i 
fuselli - Edizioni Mani di Fata.

Don't know if either of these are available any more.

The above books emrege occasionally.  I recently got Lavori at a lace day 
raffle.  Keep checking lace dealers and online book sellers.  Let people know 
you are looking for them.


There are some new Cantu books coming out of Italy.  I have a friend with a 
couple of them but I don't know the names.  However, they are in Italian, and 
she ordered them directly from websites in Italy.  There are also some videos 
(perhaps CD or DVD) also, which can be ordered from Italy.  I was looking at 
them once and thought they were a bit spendy for my pocketbook but my friend 
loves the one she has.


I suggest doing some internet searching.  You might have to look up the Italian 
word for bobbin lace.  Sorry I don't have the websites handy.  Does anyone know 
the Italian terms that would be helpful?

Alice in Oregon -- where lace has been set aside until our church Bazaar next 
week.  I'm up to my ears in preparations.

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[lace] I survived the One Day Workshop! (long)

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I was asked to report and so I'll try.

A Textile center 90 miles away scheduled a week of textile skills with a 
different one each day.  I was asked to do Introduction to Bobbin Lace.  We 
would have five hours to do it.  The class would be people who had no idea how 
lace was made, and no supplies.

With help from friends and the Poole Lace Guild, we devised a version of the 
twisted Christmas ornament strip that looked much like the famous 'snake' for 
beginners.  It used only cloth stitch with extra twists to make a little design 
in the center a couple places.  The great thing about it was that it could be 
ended at any point down the strip.  They were shown samples without stiffening, 
and a sample twisted and stiffened.  


I had specified a limit of 12 people, and solicited 3 friends to come with me 
to help.  All bobbins were wound in advance, and the patterns were on the 
pillows.  I collected all empty pillows I had, ones owned by the lace society 
that hadn't sold at the last lace day, some borrowed from other lace friends, 
and covered new pillow forms to finish out the count.  .

Three days before class, I got an email that they had registered 15 people!!  
Yikes!  That meant 66 more bobbins to wind and more pillows to find.  Luckily, 
I had also had a 4th friend ask to come.  I did write a terse email to the 
registrar whom I had been working with and started winding bobbins.  It turned 
out the two employees of the museum who had signed out, dropped out so we had 
13 in the class.

I was up early because it was a two hour drive to the Center.  I picked up one 
friend on the way.  The other 3 met in another city and came together.  We were 
from four different cities, but we arrived at the center within three minutes 
of each other.  (Good timing.)  And the Center was locked.  No one home.

One student showed up very soon, and phoned the person with the key.  She came 
driving in very shortly (it's a small town), very much surprised we were there 
30 minutes early.  I had made arrangements with the registrar but she neglected 
to tell the person with the key. But we got in, and then had to wait a bit 
while they set up the classroom (moving things off the tables).

The students came in and got settled (two were late). I started with basic 
background.  They wound one pair of bobbins, just to get the idea of prep 
needed, then we switched to the prewound bobbins and I talked them step by step 
through the start.  After that, the five helpers rotated around the room 
coaching as needed.  Almost everyone was getting well started when lunch was 
announced.  We took a half hour break and continued.

There was one man in the class.  I had expected all women.  He was one of the 
first people to finish.  He had a bit of a problem keeping left and right 
straight.  He said each time I came by to look, he did the stitch backwards.  
However, he got the idea quickly, and even put a third design element in the 
strip without it being marked on the pattern.

The pattern was 8 inches long.  I think 3 or 4 made it to the bottom.  One 
could not get the concept of the stitch and had to be coached through every 
stitch.  She got only a couple inches or so.  One lady worked hard but gave up 
at 3 inches and had me finish it off.  She enjoyed the class but learned that 
her eyes and hands just could not do lace.  She would stick to her weaving.  
The others were at all levels in between the fast and the slow.  One of the 
early finishing students took all the bobbins as people finished, and stripped 
them.  There's only a few left for me to do.  (That was nice of her.)

Half the class was very enthusiastic about it and wanted to do more.  I had 
taken my bag of beginner supplies I keep on hand for our local people, which 
had just been stocked up with beginner books and bobbins.  I sold all the books 
(have to order more now) and half my stock of bobbins, plus three of the 
pillows we used.  I think I'm going to be asked back in the future for a 
continuing class.  If so... I will limit it to 8.

I have to admit that I was almost overwhelmed with trying to instruct 13 
people at once.  I'm more used to single tutoring.  I could probably do a 
better job if I did it again... having been through it once.  Of 
course, hind sight is always clearer and I could see where I could have 
done better.  I did learn that the noise level was higher with five 
instructors.  There was always the sound of at least five people 
talking.

The other thing was that I could have used an easel to hold up a demo pillow 
and/or a paper pad to draw on. 

Class ended half an hour early, but everyone was getting tired.  We had 
normal tables to work on which were too high, of course.  I had 
suggested each person bring a seat cushion so they would sit a bit 
higher, which helped, but the chairs were not the best for lacemaking.  
If a group continues, we can use TV trays or the common adjustable 
plastic folding tables 

[lace] Northwest Regional Conference, USA

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The next Northwest Regional Lace Conference will be June 18-21, 2015 at George 
Fox University in Newberg, Oregon, hosted by the Portland Lace Society.

For classes, teachers, and details, look up portlandlacesociety.com website and 
click on the rainbow.  The theme is rainbows and butterflies, and there's lots 
of lace 
butterflies on the website to entice you. (Lace note -- a couple of them are 
mine.)

It's not time yet to register, but it is time to check things out and start 
making plans.  If you have any questions, contact either me or the person 
listed on the website.

Alice in Oregon -- where summer is over and it's rainy this week.

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[lace] One day lace class

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Next week I get to lead a one day bobbin lace introduction class at a textile 
center.  They are having a week of classes with a different skill/craft 
presented each day.  I'll have 5 hours to teach the rudiments of bobbin lace to 
8- 12 ladies.  To have enough class time for be able to make something, i have 
the bobbins all wound, and the pillows will have the patterns mounted on them.  
I'm also taking four experienced lace makers to assist so all questions can be 
immediately answered, and mistakes caught promptly.

We will be doing a Christmas Spiral which is mainly a straight strip of 
clothstitch, with a couple sections of twists in the middle to add interest.  
When finished, it will be wrapped around a dowel with or without hair spray, to 
turn it into a spiral.  It starts and ends on a slant.  The thread ends at the 
bottom are tied in tassels.  The neat thing about this pattern is that is can 
be ended at any point down the length and still make a pretty spiral.  Everyone 
can work as far as time allows, and then end it at that point.  Even the slower 
students will have a finished item.

I found it interesting when making samples that the strips would twist and hold 
shape without stiffening.  We are using tightly twisted crochet thread, and the 
twist of the thread makes the whole thing want to twist.

This sort of crash course is not our usual teaching method so we are rather 
curious if it will work out as we hope.  The textile center is over an hour's 
drive from my home so this is a major excursion.   The five people going are 
from four different towns so just getting there in only two cars takes planning.

Finding 12 empty pillows was a challenge.  I came up with 8 and the other 
ladies found the rest.  I have lots of bobbins so that was no problem.  I now 
have one week to finalize any diagrams and/or handouts to use with the class.  
Other than that, I just have to pray for good weather crossing the mountain.  I 
don't like to drive that road in pouring rain.

Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Knit in Public Day

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My local paper has a Knit in Public demo listed on Sept. 14.  They invite
knitters, crocheters, and spinners.  It's listed as a recognition of fiber
arts.

Fiber arts.Lace would fit in there.  I think I may just take my
pillow and chair, and join in, providing it's not raining that day .  It
should get some attention.  


By the way, I researched Knit in Public Day
(USA version), and it's really a long week -- Sept 14 to Sept 22.

Is anyone
else involved in this?  Lace in Public Day is not until September so it might
be fun to join the knitters.

Alice in Oregon -- in a stretch of warm dry
weather.

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[lace] de-fuzzing lace in progress?

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I have both a light and a dark cat, so no matter what color I'm working on, I
can see cat hair.

Fingers and/or tweezers are the main source of removal. 
Sometimes I use masking tape to remove hairs from the pillow, to keep them out
of the lace.

The fingers/tweezers made need to be applied several times, even
after the lace has been completed and used.  When the light catches the lace
'just so', I find more cat hair.  This will continue to happen until some time
after the cats are gone.  Their hair gets into everything and likes to stick
to fabrics.

Alice in Oregon -- where we had record high temps for 3 days and
are now back to chill and rain.

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[lace] Lace with and without an end use

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I do both types of lacemaking.  I have given away laces specifically made for
exchanges, weddings, birthdays, Christmas, conference decorations and raffles,
etc.  Sometimes it's specifically for me -- a scarf, collar. or motif.  I
don't wear much lace on my everyday clothes, but will wear a dainty scarf or a
collar to church or special occasion.  I'm currently making a tablecloth just
for myself.  I'm guessing the cats will be gone by the time I get it finished,
so it will be safe to have it on my table.

On the other hand, I love to try
different kinds of lace and interesting patterns.  I make a lot of items just
for the fun of trying the pattern.  There's a variety of projects that were
started in a class, and have not been finished.  Some will be, but some will
be cut off if I decide I'm no longer interested.  Many of these projects have
ended up on a display board that I take to demos.

Hint:  Most of you are
familiar with the commercial display board that's 24 x 48 with 12 inch flaps
folded in on both sides.  If you take a sharp knife or cutting blade and score
a line between the two flaps, down the center of the big board -- and only
through the inside surface layer, the board will fold backwards right in the
middle.  This gives you four connected surfaces, each 12 x 48.  The folded
form 12x48x2 inches is much easier to transport than the 24x48 form,
especially when it's windy.  I put an elastic strap around it so it stays
firmly closed during transport.  Actually, I have three of these boards now,
so I can take just one or all to a demo, depending on space allotted.

Alice
in Oregon -- where I'm working on a butterfly pattern from an old 'Kant'
magazine.

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[lace] tape lace photos

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The lace on these handkerchiefs is beautiful.  It seems to me to be mainly
Idrijan lace with modern designs.  However, some of them show distinctive
Cantu influences plus some from other laces like Hungarian that are found in
the Eastern Europe area north and east of Northern Italy.  A few looked more
like needlelace than bobbin lace, but the pictures didn't stay on the screen
long enough to really study them.

If these were all done by one person, it's
a lifetime worth of work.

Alice in Oregon -- trying to cope with an
improved email program that won't let me delete any part of a message when I
Reply.  And it repeats all messages with the same title.  !! Frustration!! 
Not Arachne friendly.

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[lace] New job, and treasure

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I just took on a temporary job as receptionist/clerk for a tax accountant,
half time -- 4 hours a day for 8 weeks.  My new boss said he needed someone
for 4 hours but had only an hour or two of work each day so bring something
to do.  Of course, I took a lace project.  This is the first time I've been
paid to make lace.

As to the Treasure -- The second day of work, he brought
out a box that contained his grandmother's lace.  He said no one in the family
wanted it, so he gave it to me.  The box has various pieces of Duchesse and
Point de Gaze laces, and a couple knotted lace doilies.  One small piece I
think is much older.  I need to do research on it but I think it's a
predecessor of Binche. It is keyhole shaped, about 4 inches high and might be
for the back of a baby bonnet.  Some notes on some of the laces make it look
like they belonged to Grandmother's grandmother -- late 1700's.

That's my
story of a dream job and great boss.

Alice in Oregon -- recovering from a
long road trip to the Winter Conference in Costa Mesa, California -- 1000
miles each way.

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[lace] Ancient threads - Z and S twist

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The TV program Nova was about some ancient Roman tombs where they found
remnants of threads, both Z and S twist.

They said the Z twist probably was
made in northern Europe while the S twist came from the Mediterranean area.
The reason was the way the spindle was handled during spinning.  The northern
people used a spindle that was spun/twisted from the top which resulted in a Z
twist.  The Mediterranean people turned their spindles from the bottom which
made the S twist.

I found this explanation of the two twists rather
interesting.

Alice in Oregon -- in a deep freeze for several days.  May break
record low temp records this week.

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[lace] ] Christian Church Lace

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I think you will find few church laces in Bucks.  Crosses and other symbols
are usually symmetrical.  Bucks is worked on an angle that's not 45 degrees so
it's difficult to make squares or symmetrical features.  Torchon, or even 's
Gravenmoerse  might be the better styles to search in.

I second the
suggestion of Kortelahti's book.  It has some lovely church lace edgings.
Alice in Oregon
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From: Clive
 Dot cli...@telkomsa.net
I am wanting to take off in my New Year Project of
doing the edging for 
the cloths used in our chapel and thought I would like
to do something 
in Bucks with crosses somewhere in the design, I have been
looking at 
the prickings I have and have failed to find even one in
Buckspoint.

Are there any out there and if so could someone point me in the
right 
direction.

Dot Goetsch

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[lace] Dutch Lace review, plus Kortelahti

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I have been enjoying the book Hollandsche Kant - met Passer en Liniaal
(Dutch lace - With Compass and Ruler), published by LOKK in 2008.  No other
identifying numbers found.  271 pages.  Three languages which I think are
Dutch, English and German.


The book has history of Dutch lace from 1880 to
1942 (63 pages), then techniques with extremely good diagrams and instructions
(16 pages), followed by 122 patterns (163 pages).  The back of the book has
several pages of pictures of new projects made using some of the patterns as
an inspiration.

The Technique section has this definition:  'Dutch Lace'
consists of geometric and stylized floral figures connected to each other with
plaits.  It is a lace of continuous threads...  The use of picots or tallies
was discouraged but appear sporadically.

The history section makes a good
read if you are interested in history.  It relates the lace activity to the
social scene and details the struggle and growth of lace schools,  with
teachers training students who became teachers -- passing on the art.  The
schools involved art teachers to improve the designing of patterns.  The
industry was alive and well until  the war stopped it all for 30 years.  Lace
was revived in the 70's.  This book contains many patterns resurrected from
attics and archives, and put back into use. 


The patterns are quite
intriguing to a person used to seeing Bucks, Beds and Torchon.  I think the
style is more Guipure  than Torchon.  Some patterns insert some extra threads
at certain points to complete a pattern design.  The patterns are mostly
edgings, straight or rounded.  Most of the straight edgings have corner
patterns.  Some half circles are mounted on fansticks.  Some patterns are
small mats, round or square.


The committee that did the study and prep work
for this book provided detailed diagrams for the patterns, with extra ones for
intricate spots in the patterns.  There's a colored picture for each of the
122 patterns.  


The book is large (probably A1 size) and an inch thick,
which makes it a bit expensive in the USA.  However, considering all that's in
it, it's a very good buy.  I think it was a limited production and may be hard
to find.  If you ever come across this book, get it.  It would be a great
reference in a guild library.

Now -- my reference to Kortelahti.  Some years
ago we had a discussion about Kortelahti lace, and what kind it was.  All we
came up with was 'Kortelahti Lace'.  After my study of this book and it's
patterns, I realize that Kortelahti lace has it's base in Dutch Lace of the
early 20th century.  Eeva-Liisa must have had basic lessons or reference books
from someone trained in this style of lace.  She took this training, and
expanded it with her own patterns.  Her designs are a bit more flowing, less
geometric, but follow the same basic style.

Since I really enjoy making
Kortelahti lace patterns, that may explain why I like this book on Dutch lace.
Alice in Oregon -- where we had a cool but sunny day.

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Re: [lace] IOLI convention - on line

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Go to IOLI, then click on Conventions.  Click on Conference information.  It
brings up the class listings.  Click on the one you want and you get the
description.  Across the top of this page are four boxes.  The first is the
class number.  The second is the class name.  Click on this name and you get
the picture of the item to be made.  Click on the teacher's name and you get
info about him/her and maybe a picture.

Just keep clicking and things and see
what comes up.

Alice in Oregon





 From:
hottl...@neo.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com
Hello All!  Is there a FAQs
section for newbies interested in attending the Sacramento convention?  So far
I haven't received the Bulletin, Handbook or convention info by snail mail. 
When I searched online, I didn't find any pictures of the various class
projects.  Am I looking in the wrong place?  Or are pictures not available
online?  Please contact me off list to help me understand how this works. 
Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA     

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[lace] Oh ye Greek Gods!

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Lovely!   I remember this.  It was stolen, so Alex made a second one with a
change in one detail so it's possible to tell one from the other if the
original one was found.   So that 1200 hours was done twice!  


So, if you
see this lace in person... and Alex is not with it you may be looking at
the stolen one.  Contact the police and Alex.

Alice in Oregon -- fogged in
under an inversion.  No rain but no sunshine either.

In a message dated 1/15/2014
_alexstillwell@talktalk.net_
(mailto:alexstillw...@talktalk.net)   writes:
My
biggest and most challenging piece is my Oh ye Greek  Gods!  You can
see it on
my website www.alexstillwell.wordpress.com It  took 1200 hours to
make.   Alex

Dear Alex,
Is this the famous lace that
disappeared (or was stolen)?  I'm  thinking of
the one that was so valued that
notices and very clear photos  were put in
various national Lace Guild
magazines at the time.  And I  remember a
detailed article about it   If so,
how was this  resolved?.
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery
Resource Center

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[lace] Embroidered flour sacks - history

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I am not an expert in history but did read up on this a few years back.  I'll
try to summarize.  For more detail, look at: 
http://www.hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/collections/floursacks/index.html
During and after the war, food was in short supply.  The Commission for Relief
imported huge amounts of food with the flour packaged in cotton sacks.  To
prevent the cotton from being used for ammunition, the sacks were tracked and
controlled to be used for clothing, teaching sewing, etc.  Many ladies
embroidered sacks which were returned as thank you gifts or sold to raise
funds for food.  The embroidery could be embellishment on the
picture/lettering already on the sack, or personal creations.


A large
collection of these sacks are at the Herbert Hoover Museum.  I saw a small
part of the collection in a traveling exhibit at Hoover's childhood home a few
summers back.  They are most interesting.  I think a few of them may have had
a bit of lace incorporated into the design.

If you are in a museum that has a
few of these sacks, take a good look.
Alice in Oregon -- where the storms are
going away for several days.  It will be dry but cool this week.

 From: Karen M. Zammit Manduca
kazama...@gmail.com
What are those? I am intrigued. Maybe some posts have
not come
through if you have been discussing them.

Karen in Malta

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[lace-chat] flour sacks vs flour sacks -- moved from Lace

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The Belgian flour sacks I saw were white, with the embroidery on them.

The
pre and post war USA flour sacks that the common people bought their flour in
were pretty printed cotton fabrics.  People made their own bread and used lots
of flour.  With careful buying, a family could acquire several sacks with the
same print.  As a child, some of my favorite dresses were made from flour sack
materials.  My grandmother's kitchen curtains were also from flour sacks.  The
printed fabric looked just like fabric from the store.


The underwear that
was embarrassing was made from white flour sacks with Smith Premium Flour  or
such words on it that would not wash out.   A child did not want Premium
across his rear. It told anyone who saw it that the family didn't have money
to buy new fabric for underwear.


The flour sack clothes would have been
nicer if they had had lace on them.  

Alice in Oregon -- getting ready for
lace meeting tonight



 From: Liz and Ken
Roberts lizke...@netscape.net

My mom (now deceased) told me when she was
young the girls in her family had
underwear made from flower sacks. She didn't
say if they were embroidered or
not.  There were 9 kids in the family and
feeding and clothing them all was
not cheap.  I gathered flour sack underwear
was not stylish and she was
embarrassed when the other girls in school
discovered this.

Liz in Missouri

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[lace] the biggest and the hardest piece of lace

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 Subject: Re: [lace] What is the biggest
and the hardest piece of lace  you have ever  done?
 

Biggest and hardest
That's a challenge to figure out.  In square inches, the biggest completed
project must be the three yards of 6 inch edging I made... but I didn't
consider it difficult.  It was a Kortelahti pattern with mostly torchon
techniques.  (Ask me again in 3 years and I might be able to claim a 40
square tablecloth that's in process right now.)

Hardest might be the Beds
fan.  The pattern was not really that hard.. lots of people have made it. 
However, I chose to do it in 13 color shades going from dark at the bottom to
light at the top.  It took lots of planning to lay out the color changes, and
took a set or two of bobbins in each of the colors.  When it was all prepared,
I had used 170 pairs of bobbins.  Putting in and ending all those threads
neatly made it a big challenge.  Sometimes a color was used for only 2-3
millimeters and then changed. 

I look on each pattern as a fun challenge. 
Some are a bit more challenging than others, but each has it's quirks.  And a
feeling of satisfaction when it's done.

Happy lacing,
Alice in Oregon -- on a
very stormy, windy day.

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[lace] Christmas gift -- new item

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It's early Christmas morning, and we have already opened our gifts.


My DH
surprised me with something I've never seen before -- a pin/needle sharpener.
Actually, it's called  a Fish Hook Sharpening Stone, by Bear Paw Tackle
Company.   It's about 3 inches long, 1/2 inch thick, and shaped in a long
triangular bar.  Two sides have grooves down them for the pin (hook) to rub
down.  I had recently commented that one of my longer stick pins was quite
dull.  I think that gave him the idea.

He also gave me one the the BBQ lamps
that were recently discussed.  I mentioned them and we looked at pictures on
the web.  I'm probably the first person in our group to get one, but most
likely not the only person who will end up with one.  I really like the 24
stretch of 'neck' on the lamp.  It can reach the center of my largest pillow. 
Now I have to see if I can clamp it on my folding lace stand.  I may just have
to settle for clamping it on a table next to my pillow.

Finished my
butterfly.  Later today I get to start a new project... think it will be a
carousel horse.

Merry Christmas!
Alice in Oregon

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