Re: [LegacyUG] AniMap

2010-08-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Tim,

You are quite right, Czechoslovakia has had so many boundary changes over
the years that it has disappeared from the maps !!! ;-)

Ron Ferguson
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Tim Rosenlof wrote:
 Hi,

 Map My Family does about the same as Legacy Mapping. It does what
 is say's in the description. I use it more than Legacy Mapping.
 Others on this list differ. Keep in mind that both Map My Family
 and Legacy Mapping use *current* locations, not historical.

 AniMap uses *historical* locations. You can plot
 cities/cemeteries/railroads/military/post offices/etc... You search
 for those locations in a sitefinder, then plot it on the map. It will
 show you which county of your ancestors were in for a certain time.
 For instance, my ancestor lived in Lehi, Utah. I use SiteFinder to
 search for Lehi. I can then plot Lehi on the map, and see which
 county Lehi was in, in a certain year from 1849, historically. It has
 a run feature that you can just set, then sit back and watch from
 year to year. I can record which county they lived in *historically*.
 I would enter Lehi, Utah, Utah for the location in my database in
 1890. It's great for following your ancestors through different
 cities they lived and *correctly* enter the historical data. It also
 shows the county seat.

 I would also recommend you look at Centennia Historical Atlas.
 I do research in Czechoslovakia. It has so many boundary changes
 through the years.


 Regards,
 Tim Rosenlof

 On 8/16/2010 2:59 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
 Hi Tim,

 Just read about Map my family as well
 Do you know the differences. I looked at the info and I might like
 Map
 my family better.
 Comments?
 Thanks,
 Larry Lee

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
 mailto:spa...@xmission.com wrote:

 The price for AniMap has not changed. It has been that 'Save
 $10.00' price for quite awhile. The (Legacy News) email sent out
 earlier is pertaining to 10% off the items in the *Legacy
 Store*. Click on the link in the email.

 Regards,
 Tim Rosenlof

 (Link)
 http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1

 On 8/16/2010 1:43 PM, Bain Family wrote:
   I see Legacy has a 10% off sale and I wanted to follow-up on
  my  adventures with AniMap in case anyone was interested in
 purchasing it --
   now might be a good time to do so.
   I was contacted by a person from GoldBug who helped me with
 the issues
   and it appears to be working fine now. I am running it on
  Windows  7/64-bit which they said is OK.
   Lana




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RE: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread Richard and Evita Piepho

Wen .. The acceptable and standard entry for dates in genealogy is 16 Feb 1933 
... anyone using any other method confuses the issue and we stress this is the 
only way for all concerned world wide to enter dates... If I understand your 
discussion Dad

 From: br...@the-lightfoots.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date question
 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:48:54 -0700

 The problem is that Legacy does not recognize the word Present as a valid 
 date. I believe that the only word the Legacy recognizes (accepts) is the 
 word unknown (excluding all prefixes). When you stop and think about, 
 you'll realize why the word PRESENT is not valid. What if you create the 
 record today with the word PRESENT and 10 years later somebody is reading a 
 report generated by your file? The word PRESENT at that time may no longer be 
 truthful thus Legacy is telling you that it is bad. The only truthful thing 
 you can do in your circumstance such as Occupation and Residence is to enter 
 what you really know for sure and that is 02/21/1942 to 08/2010 or from 
 02/21/1942 to 08/2010. Probably not what you wanted to see but the data will 
 remain valid in perpetuity.

 More info about entering date ranges can be found in the HELP file. Just 
 enter Dates, Ranges in the keyword search.

 There is nothing wrong with the 02/21/1942 portion of your date. Different 
 users may be seeing this displayed differently on their family file such as 
 with dashes or spaces between the day, the word for the month instead of 
 number, etc, but this is all due to the settings on the DATES tab of 
 Customize Settings. You can avoid discovering these bad dates after-the-fact 
 by turning on Date Checking/Report only unrecognized dates.




  -Original Message-
  From: Ronald E Howell [mailto:rehowell0...@earthlink.net]
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:34 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Date question
 
  I have several events (i.e. Occupation and Residence) in which I use
  the
  date as follows: '02/21/1942 - Present'.  The Potential Problems Report
  shows that the date is 'bad'.  Is there a way to change the date (not
  'Mark
  as Not problem' on the report) as to remove the items from the report?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Ron H
 




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[LegacyUG] Problem with source reference formatting in PDF descendant book

2010-08-17 Thread john . woods


m having trouble with the positioning of the source reference number in the pdf version of a descendant book. It displays correctly at the end of the sentence in Legacy but when I create a pdf from it the number shifts left and overlaps the text. This makes both the number and the last bit of text difficult to read.


Does anyone else have this problem? Has anyone resolved it?


Ive tried the Legacy Support team but they cant recreate it.


Ive had it for quite a while and lived with it. Recently done a clean install of 7.4 and still got it. Im running Windows XP and have Acrobat Reader 9.3.3 installed.


Thanks


John





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Re: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread BMcL Robinson
HI Ron

What about after 21 Feb 1942 if you can't commit to an end date?

Cheers, Brett
BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand

- Original Message -
From: Ronald E Howell rehowell0...@earthlink.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:34 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Date question


I have several events (i.e. Occupation and Residence) in which I use the
date as follows: '02/21/1942 - Present'.  The Potential Problems Report
shows that the date is 'bad'.  Is there a way to change the date (not 'Mark
as Not problem' on the report) as to remove the items from the report?

Thanks in advance

Ron H





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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with source reference formatting in PDF descendant book

2010-08-17 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:03:05 +0100, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Sorry, John, but I cannot repeat your problem either. I created a small
Ancestor Report with the Sources at the bottom of each page and created the
PDF using the Legacy Option.

My Reader is version 9.3.3.177.

Have you considered that the problem may be with Acrobat Reader, and tried
reinstalling that?

Replying to Ron because the OP did not post in plain text...

Sometimes a change in font will make a difference. I also noticed slight
differences in PDF layout based on the printer I have selected as the
default. So changing the default printer, even if this means installing
a non-existent printer, might correct the problem.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file on a Kindle or other tablet device?

2010-08-17 Thread Robert Runion
I'm interested in the Families program under discussion for use with an iPAD 
(planning on buying one, but need APP info). Can you direct me to a site that 
provides information on it?  I did a few researches but could not come up with 
a web site to explain the program and its features? Is it available from the 
Apple Store?


Bob

On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Dwain Rosenberger wrote:

 Marilyn, as Leon pointed out Families works on the iPad, iPhone plus the iPod 
 touch.  I use it on the iPad and for doing research away from my home PC, it 
 provides you with the ability to add/change/revise information in the field.  
 It also provides all the information in your PC database, such as 
 pictures/events/notes/sources, plus all the normal family information you 
 have entered.

 You can also add any new information you find during your research, including 
 photo's/scan's etc., that you have available on the device.

 This app was written for Legacy, so anyone using Legacy will have no 
 problem's interfacing with Families. It's a 5-Star app for Legacy users.

 Dwain C. Rosenberger - (dcrose...@gmail.com)

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Marilyn:

 Families will run on an iPad and iPhone.  I have it running on my iPhone and 
 have an iPad also.
 I also have GedView, FamViewer, and Tree-to-Go on my iPhone and iPad.

 Families allows you to edit the file on the iPhone/iPad and then transfer 
 (write a new Legacy file) back to your computer.  Families is the best one to 
 work directly with Legacy files to include pictures and all events.

 The others mostly transfer a GEDCom file to the iPhone app and then you can 
 view the information and see a tree or report.  The screens are too small on 
 the iPhone to be of much use when viewing, but you do have all of your 
 genealogy information at your finger tips.

 The Tree-to-Go works directly on-line with your family tree information on 
 Ancestry.com and allows editing your information on the web site.

 For Legacy users, the Families App is the best one to work with.

 Keep in mind that all of these apps lack many of the features you have come 
 to expect on your desktop Legacy software, but they are very useful and I 
 would highly recommend all of them.  GedView is probably my 2nd choice for an 
 app on the iPhone/iPad.

 Good luck.

 ___
 Leon Chapman

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 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Marilyn Clark paddypeppe...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 I, too, would like to know. I'm thinking about the iPad, and see that Legacy 
 can be imported into another App for the iPad called Families. Has anyone 
 actually used this? Is it similar enough to Legacy to be pretty intuitive? I 
 don't want to learn another genealogy program...

 Marilyn

 --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Dee Ziegler dee.zieg...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dee Ziegler dee.zieg...@gmail.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy file on a Kindle or other tablet device?
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Cc: dee.zieg...@gmail.com
 Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:14 PM

 Hello to the group. I understand that I can use my Legacy file on a
 small device like an iPhone. Screen's too small for my purpose.

 Is there a way to use it on a Kindle or other electronic tablet device?

 Thanks. Dolly (not quite a technodunce, but close) in Maryland USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with source reference formatting in PDF descendant book

2010-08-17 Thread john . woods

Great idea, didnt think of that. The defaults worked nicely so Id stuck with them. In fact, simply by changing the font size from 10 to 11 Ive vastly improved it. Ill keep playing with that option. Thanks.


Re the Acrobat Reader version suggestion, I feel its very unlikely to be the reader thats at fault, much more likely the writer that embedded in Legacy.


John




On Aug 17 2010, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: 

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:03:05 +0100, Ron Ferguson
wrote:

Sorry, John, but I cannot repeat your problem either. I created a small
Ancestor Report with the Sources at the bottom of each page and created the
PDF using the Legacy Option.

My Reader is version 9.3.3.177.

Have you considered that the problem may be with Acrobat Reader, and tried
reinstalling that?

Replying to Ron because the OP did not post in plain text...

Sometimes a change in font will make a difference. I also noticed slight
differences in PDF layout based on the printer I have selected as the
default. So changing the default printer, even if this means installing
a non-existent printer, might correct the problem.

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

2010-08-17 Thread Sherry/Support
And I've written to *numerous* people who have posted trees, asking
for more information (usually to confirm a source because their info
differs from mine) and have *never* received a response!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:
 I had an unsourced tree posted at RootsWeb for probably five years with the 
 same expectation--having people contact me for sources--and even said so in 
 the page headers.  *No one* ever wrote although the counter I installed 
 ticked away indicating the file had been viewed by a couple of thousand 
 people.  Finally someone pointed out that sources add credibility to your 
 work.  I switched to Legacy specifically for the sourcing capability and 
 began including them.  At that point I started getting contacts.  No 
 blizzard, but about half a dozen a year from a database of just under 10,000 
 names.  Now I just have to work on standardizing the formatting so the 
 citations look good as well as being credible.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: jay_inga...@pipeline.com [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:14 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees


 I created a new Legacy file copy of data I wanted to post, stripped all
 (hope so) notes and sources, then added a new source saying if people
 contact me I can provide the sources and notes that I have. Then posted that
 data on Rootsweb. Almost no one has contacted me for additional info. One or
 two people have sent correction requests.

 Jay
 - Original Message -
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees


 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:33:59 -0700, Brian L. Lightfoot
 br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:

Any online tree with no source citations is pretty weak evidence but
without anything else to go by, I consider it a starting point for
additional research.

 From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com

 I don't publish sources in my online family tree precisely because I
 want the viewer to contact me. He/she might be a distant relative that
 can help me as much as I can help them. If the viewer chooses to copy my
 info without asking about sources ... not my problem.

 And like others, I might use an online family tree as a clue to further
 research. If the tree does not contain sources, I will attempt to
 contact the compiler.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with source reference formatting in PDF descendant book

2010-08-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

Why? Dennis has already drawn attention to a potential problem area with
Acrobat reader.

Ron Ferguson

PS. If you wish everyone to read your posts, I suggest that you use Plain
Text, rather than relying on others to change from your HTML
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- Original Message -
From: john.wo...@totalise.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 17 August 2010 13:28
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with source reference formatting in PDF
descendant book


Great idea, didn't think of that. The defaults worked nicely so I'd stuck
with them. In fact, simply by changing the font size from 10 to 11 I've
vastly improved it. I'll keep playing with that option. Thanks.
Re the Acrobat Reader version suggestion, I feel it's very unlikely to be
the reader that's at fault, much more likely the writer that embedded in
Legacy.
John


On Aug 17 2010, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:03:05 +0100, Ron Ferguson
wrote:

Sorry, John, but I cannot repeat your problem either. I created a small
Ancestor Report with the Sources at the bottom of each page and created the
PDF using the Legacy Option.

My Reader is version 9.3.3.177.

Have you considered that the problem may be with Acrobat Reader, and tried
reinstalling that?

Replying to Ron because the OP did not post in plain text...

Sometimes a change in font will make a difference. I also noticed slight
differences in PDF layout based on the printer I have selected as the
default. So changing the default printer, even if this means installing
a non-existent printer, might correct the problem.

--

Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools



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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with source reference formatting in PDF descendant book

2010-08-17 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:20:46 +0100, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Dennis has already drawn attention to a potential problem area with
Acrobat reader.

Ron:

I don't know if the problem involves how the Acrobat Reader renders the
PDF for viewing, or how Legacy constructs the PDF. My guess would be the
latter is the problem. Perhaps Legacy (or the 3rd party control that
Legacy uses) makes certain assumptions about character spacing that
don't hold true for every size font (or print driver). In the middle of
writing my book I bought a new inkjet printer. I noticed small but
noticeable differences in the book's layout, especially with citation
superscripts and the number of words Legacy placed on a line before
wrapping. So I left the old bubblejet printer installed as the default
on my PC and used that until I finished the book.

--

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RE: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Maybe a little more explanation would be in order of why I said that 
02/21/1942 has nothing wrong with it. Taken in context, the OP stated Legacy 
was marking 02/21/1942 - Present as BAD. I stated that it was the word 
Present that caused Legacy to declare it BAD and not the entry of the date as 
02/21/1942.

Specifically, if a user were to enter 02/21/1942 all by itself, it would be 
accepted by Legacy and not marked as BAD. Assuming that the Legacy date format 
is set to dd-mmm-, you should expect to see Legacy immediately convert it 
so that it displays as 21 Feb 1942. But almost all genealogists would 
consider it a bad habit to enter dates in that format and all should try to 
think in terms of the standard format of day-month-year. Think of it as 
smallest-middle-biggest. The confusing American practice of 02/21/1942 is 
middle-smallest-largest. If you ran across an American date entry of 
02/04/1942, it probably means 04 Feb 1942 but in the rest of the world, it 
would work out to 02 Apr 1942. Avoid the confusion and get used to entering 
dates as dd-mmm-. As Dad stated in his message, it is the acceptable and 
standard method of entering dates.


Brian in CA
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From: Richard and Evita Piepho [mailto:erpie...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date question

Wen .. The acceptable and standard entry for dates in genealogy is 16 Feb 1933 
... anyone using any other method confuses the issue and we stress this is the 
only way for all concerned world wide to enter dates... If I understand your 
discussion Dad

 From: br...@the-lightfoots.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date question
 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:48:54 -0700

 The problem is that Legacy does not recognize the word Present as a valid 
 date. I believe that the only word the Legacy recognizes (accepts) is the 
 word unknown (excluding all prefixes). When you stop and think about, 
 you'll realize why the word PRESENT is not valid. What if you create the 
 record today with the word PRESENT and 10 years later somebody is reading a 
 report generated by your file? The word PRESENT at that time may no longer be 
 truthful thus Legacy is telling you that it is bad. The only truthful thing 
 you can do in your circumstance such as Occupation and Residence is to enter 
 what you really know for sure and that is 02/21/1942 to 08/2010 or from 
 02/21/1942 to 08/2010. Probably not what you wanted to see but the data will 
 remain valid in perpetuity.

 More info about entering date ranges can be found in the HELP file. Just 
 enter Dates, Ranges in the keyword search.

 There is nothing wrong with the 02/21/1942 portion of your date. Different 
 users may be seeing this displayed differently on their family file such as 
 with dashes or spaces between the day, the word for the month instead of 
 number, etc, but this is all due to the settings on the DATES tab of 
 Customize Settings. You can avoid discovering these bad dates after-the-fact 
 by turning on Date Checking/Report only unrecognized dates.




  -Original Message-
  From: Ronald E Howell [mailto:rehowell0...@earthlink.net]
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:34 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Date question
 
  I have several events (i.e. Occupation and Residence) in which I use
  the
  date as follows: '02/21/1942 - Present'. The Potential Problems Report
  shows that the date is 'bad'. Is there a way to change the date (not
  'Mark
  as Not problem' on the report) as to remove the items from the report?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Ron H
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy file on a Kindle or other tablet device?

2010-08-17 Thread Leon Chapman

 Bob:


Here is their URL:

www.telgen.co.uk/families


In the iTunes Store, search for Families

Leon Chapman



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RE: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread Ronald E Howell
Thanks Brian and BMcL Robinson,

Knowing that the problem was not with the date of '02/21/1942', but with the 
word 'present' or even 'current' (I had tested both and gotten the same BAD.  I 
have opted for using the word 'From' in front of my date(s) with no '-' after 
that date.  While it is not what I desire, it does eliminate the individuals, 
with such events, from the 'Potential Problems Report'.

Again Thanks Brian and BMcL Robinson

-Original Message-
From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date question

Maybe a little more explanation would be in order of why I said that 
02/21/1942 has nothing wrong with it. Taken in context, the OP stated Legacy 
was marking 02/21/1942 - Present as BAD. I stated that it was the word 
Present that caused Legacy to declare it BAD and not the entry of the date as 
02/21/1942.

Specifically, if a user were to enter 02/21/1942 all by itself, it would be 
accepted by Legacy and not marked as BAD. Assuming that the Legacy date format 
is set to dd-mmm-, you should expect to see Legacy immediately convert it 
so that it displays as 21 Feb 1942. But almost all genealogists would 
consider it a bad habit to enter dates in that format and all should try to 
think in terms of the standard format of day-month-year. Think of it as 
smallest-middle-biggest. The confusing American practice of 02/21/1942 is 
middle-smallest-largest. If you ran across an American date entry of 
02/04/1942, it probably means 04 Feb 1942 but in the rest of the world, it 
would work out to 02 Apr 1942. Avoid the confusion and get used to entering 
dates as dd-mmm-. As Dad stated in his message, it is the acceptable and 
standard method of entering dates.


Brian in CA
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From: Richard and Evita Piepho [mailto:erpie...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date question

Wen .. The acceptable and standard entry for dates in genealogy is 16 Feb 1933 
... anyone using any other method confuses the issue and we stress this is the 
only way for all concerned world wide to enter dates... If I understand your 
discussion Dad

 From: br...@the-lightfoots.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date question
 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:48:54 -0700

 The problem is that Legacy does not recognize the word Present as a valid 
 date. I believe that the only word the Legacy recognizes (accepts) is the 
 word unknown (excluding all prefixes). When you stop and think about, 
 you'll realize why the word PRESENT is not valid. What if you create the 
 record today with the word PRESENT and 10 years later somebody is reading a 
 report generated by your file? The word PRESENT at that time may no longer be 
 truthful thus Legacy is telling you that it is bad. The only truthful thing 
 you can do in your circumstance such as Occupation and Residence is to enter 
 what you really know for sure and that is 02/21/1942 to 08/2010 or from 
 02/21/1942 to 08/2010. Probably not what you wanted to see but the data will 
 remain valid in perpetuity.

 More info about entering date ranges can be found in the HELP file. Just 
 enter Dates, Ranges in the keyword search.

 There is nothing wrong with the 02/21/1942 portion of your date. Different 
 users may be seeing this displayed differently on their family file such as 
 with dashes or spaces between the day, the word for the month instead of 
 number, etc, but this is all due to the settings on the DATES tab of 
 Customize Settings. You can avoid discovering these bad dates after-the-fact 
 by turning on Date Checking/Report only unrecognized dates.




  -Original Message-
  From: Ronald E Howell [mailto:rehowell0...@earthlink.net]
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:34 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Date question
 
  I have several events (i.e. Occupation and Residence) in which I use
  the
  date as follows: '02/21/1942 - Present'. The Potential Problems Report
  shows that the date is 'bad'. Is there a way to change the date (not
  'Mark
  as Not problem' on the report) as to remove the items from the report?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Ron H
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

2010-08-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
In one instance, one person had borrowed my data, including unknown errors, 
then died. His copies of my errors were still there the last time I looked. 
Some sites became 'owner' of the data, and wouldn't let me edit it. So the 
people you needed to contact may be dead already.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:09 AM
 And I've written to *numerous* people
 who have posted trees, asking
 for more information (usually to confirm a source because
 their info
 differs from mine) and have *never* received a response!


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net
 wrote:
  I had an unsourced tree posted at RootsWeb for
 probably five years with the same expectation--having people
 contact me for sources--and even said so in the page
 headers.  *No one* ever wrote although the counter I
 installed ticked away indicating the file had been viewed by
 a couple of thousand people.  Finally someone pointed out
 that sources add credibility to your work.  I switched to
 Legacy specifically for the sourcing capability and began
 including them.  At that point I started getting contacts.
  No blizzard, but about half a dozen a year from a database
 of just under 10,000 names.  Now I just have to work on
 standardizing the formatting so the citations look good as
 well as being credible.
 
  Kirsten
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jay_inga...@pipeline.com
 [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com]
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:14 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online
 trees
 
 
  I created a new Legacy file copy of data I wanted to
 post, stripped all
  (hope so) notes and sources, then added a new source
 saying if people
  contact me I can provide the sources and notes that I
 have. Then posted that
  data on Rootsweb. Almost no one has contacted me for
 additional info. One or
  two people have sent correction requests.
 
  Jay
  - Original Message -
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online
 trees
 
 
  On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:33:59 -0700, Brian L.
 Lightfoot
  br...@the-lightfoots.com
 wrote:
 
 Any online tree with no source citations is pretty
 weak evidence but
 without anything else to go by, I consider it a
 starting point for
 additional research.
 
  From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com
 
  I don't publish sources in my online family tree
 precisely because I
  want the viewer to contact me. He/she might be a
 distant relative that
  can help me as much as I can help them. If the viewer
 chooses to copy my
  info without asking about sources ... not my problem.
 
  And like others, I might use an online family tree as
 a clue to further
  research. If the tree does not contain sources, I will
 attempt to
  contact the compiler.



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Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

2010-08-17 Thread Sherry/Support
If they were, I would expect a bounce message.  Not getting any
bounces from these people. Just silence.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:50 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 In one instance, one person had borrowed my data, including unknown errors, 
 then died. His copies of my errors were still there the last time I looked. 
 Some sites became 'owner' of the data, and wouldn't let me edit it. So the 
 people you needed to contact may be dead already.
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:09 AM
 And I've written to *numerous* people
 who have posted trees, asking
 for more information (usually to confirm a source because
 their info
 differs from mine) and have *never* received a response!


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree




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Re: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread Eliz Hanebury
I have tons of those, and Legacy lets me do after (date) and before
(date) when all the dates are from a Will, being written and dated and
being probated.



Eliz

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:53 AM, BMcL Robinson b...@vodafone.co.nz wrote:
 HI Ron

 What about after 21 Feb 1942 if you can't commit to an end date?

 Cheers, Brett
 BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand

 - Original Message -
 From: Ronald E Howell rehowell0...@earthlink.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:34 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Date question


 I have several events (i.e. Occupation and Residence) in which I use the
 date as follows: '02/21/1942 - Present'.  The Potential Problems Report
 shows that the date is 'bad'.  Is there a way to change the date (not 'Mark
 as Not problem' on the report) as to remove the items from the report?

 Thanks in advance

 Ron H





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RE: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
More about Dates..

I thought that the only permissible word in a Legacy date field was the word 
unknown. Until I found this little gem in the Legacy Help File:

 You can also enter the following words into any date field: dead, 
deceased, child, infant, stillborn and young.

Huh? That was news to me. I've often wondered about how should one handle a 
case of a young child whose birth date may have been known but the only info 
for a death date was something from a Family Bible that was akin to died as an 
infant, etc. So I checked this out within Legacy on a test individual. I 
entered a normal birth date but for a death date I entered the word infant. 
Surprisingly Legacy immediately changed it to Infant (with a capital letter 
I) which told me that Legacy accepted the word. I wondered how this would look 
in a report and here is what that would look like:

 Surprise Arizona, son of WhereAmI Arizona and Mary Test, was born on 17 
Aug 2010 and died as an infant.

In other words, just having the word Infant in the date results in the 
wording that one would want to see in a report. I tested the other words under 
various circumstances and the report wording is quite acceptable.

Darn. Learn something new every day! Maybe it was just me that was ignorant of 
these little date words but I thought I'd still post the info just in case 
others might find it beneficial.


Brian in CA
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RE: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

2010-08-17 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
I'm wondering if the person might not have felt intimidated especially if your 
email gave any sort of reference to a tie with Legacy or Millennia Corp? I 
could understand where they might just want to ignore you under those 
circumstances. But as I stated before, there are many people out there that 
create a family file without any sources or documents. They rely mostly on 
assumptions, family rumors, and my favorite he/she MUST HAVE been (enter event 
name and/or here).

Brian in CA


 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010 11:25 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

 If they were, I would expect a bounce message.  Not getting any
 bounces from these people. Just silence.

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:50 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
  In one instance, one person had borrowed my data, including unknown
 errors, then died. His copies of my errors were still there the last
 time I looked. Some sites became 'owner' of the data, and wouldn't let
 me edit it. So the people you needed to contact may be dead already.
  Rich in LA CA
 
  --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:09 AM
  And I've written to *numerous* people
  who have posted trees, asking
  for more information (usually to confirm a source because
  their info
  differs from mine) and have *never* received a response!
 
 
  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread Kathy Meyer
that is helpful, thank you.

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot 
br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:

 More about Dates..

 I thought that the only permissible word in a Legacy date field was the
 word unknown. Until I found this little gem in the Legacy Help File:

 You can also enter the following words into any date field: dead,
 deceased, child, infant, stillborn and young.

 Huh? That was news to me. I've often wondered about how should one handle a
 case of a young child whose birth date may have been known but the only info
 for a death date was something from a Family Bible that was akin to died as
 an infant, etc. So I checked this out within Legacy on a test individual. I
 entered a normal birth date but for a death date I entered the word
 infant. Surprisingly Legacy immediately changed it to Infant (with a
 capital letter I) which told me that Legacy accepted the word. I wondered
 how this would look in a report and here is what that would look like:

 Surprise Arizona, son of WhereAmI Arizona and Mary Test, was born on
 17 Aug 2010 and died as an infant.

 In other words, just having the word Infant in the date results in the
 wording that one would want to see in a report. I tested the other words
 under various circumstances and the report wording is quite acceptable.

 Darn. Learn something new every day! Maybe it was just me that was ignorant
 of these little date words but I thought I'd still post the info just in
 case others might find it beneficial.


 Brian in CA
 Still learning...





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Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

2010-08-17 Thread Sherry/Support
No it was always with my personal email address just like anyone else
looking for more info on a web posting!

Sincerely,
Sherry
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br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:
 I'm wondering if the person might not have felt intimidated especially if 
 your email gave any sort of reference to a tie with Legacy or Millennia Corp? 
 I could understand where they might just want to ignore you under those 
 circumstances. But as I stated before, there are many people out there that 
 create a family file without any sources or documents. They rely mostly on 
 assumptions, family rumors, and my favorite he/she MUST HAVE been (enter 
 event name and/or here).

 Brian in CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Date question

2010-08-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To correct a possible misunderstanding. People (me included) reccommend not 
putting Unknown into name fields. Since the program autofills empty fields on 
the screen, I prefer the printouts to have a blank area to eventually write in, 
when data is found, instead of crossing out unknown on the printout. Either way 
works just as well.
The other words, as Kathy found, are hardcoded in the program, to use 
'conventions'  as used by major organizations (LDS, DAR, SAR) .
It is all a choice, not a rule.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date question
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 1:33 PM


that is helpful, thank you.


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com 
wrote:

More about Dates..

I thought that the only permissible word in a Legacy date field was the word 
unknown. Until I found this little gem in the Legacy Help File:

    You can also enter the following words into any date field: dead, 
deceased, child, infant, stillborn and young.

Huh? That was news to me. I've often wondered about how should one handle a 
case of a young child whose birth date may have been known but the only info 
for a death date was something from a Family Bible that was akin to died as an 
infant, etc. So I checked this out within Legacy on a test individual. I 
entered a normal birth date but for a death date I entered the word infant. 
Surprisingly Legacy immediately changed it to Infant (with a capital letter 
I) which told me that Legacy accepted the word. I wondered how this would look 
in a report and here is what that would look like:

    Surprise Arizona, son of WhereAmI Arizona and Mary Test, was born on 17 
Aug 2010 and died as an infant.

In other words, just having the word Infant in the date results in the 
wording that one would want to see in a report. I tested the other words under 
various circumstances and the report wording is quite acceptable.

Darn. Learn something new every day! Maybe it was just me that was ignorant of 
these little date words but I thought I'd still post the info just in case 
others might find it beneficial.


Brian in CA
Still learning...





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Re: [LegacyUG] information from other online trees

2010-08-17 Thread Ron Ferguson
You are not on your own, Sherry, I too have had a very poor response (if
any) when I have tried to contact owners of Rootsweb and Ancestry sites. At
one time I used them for fishing trips (even then I didn't trust the
information), but now I only look if a link crops up when I am looking for
something specific.

Ron Ferguson
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And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Sherry/Support wrote:
 No it was always with my personal email address just like anyone else
 looking for more info on a web posting!

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot
 br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:
 I'm wondering if the person might not have felt intimidated
 especially if your email gave any sort of reference to a tie with
 Legacy or Millennia Corp? I could understand where they might just
 want to ignore you under those circumstances. But as I stated
 before, there are many people out there that create a family file
 without any sources or documents. They rely mostly on assumptions,
 family rumors, and my favorite he/she MUST HAVE been (enter event
 name and/or here).

 Brian in CA






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[LegacyUG] Legacy (Families) program for iPhone

2010-08-17 Thread Graham
Hello all, and am I the only one having trouble with the Legacy
Families program?

Maybe I've done it wrong, but I have just gone through many hours of
the most convoluted downloading procedure I have ever encounted.

For starters, I received an email which stated Use this coupon for
10% off your entire order in the Legacy Family Tree Online store:
10off. Underneath this it mentioned Legacy for iPhones etc.

That seemed like a good idea, I'll go buy it...but after much
searching I found out it is not at the store...it is at iTunes.

That's where my trouble began, many hours of clicking, downloading,
and god knows what else, I finally ended up with the Families
program on my computer and on my iPhone. Now it wants me to wifi sync
or something, so as to put my Legacy file into 'Families' on my
iPhone. At the moment all I have in 'Families' is the Kennedy family.

I don't have wifi...so does anybody know of another way to get Legacy
onto my iPhone using the USB?

Hope this makes sense to someone, because I've just about lost all of
mine.

Thanks, Graham





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