Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository
ext Luarvique L. Luarvique luarvi...@gmail.com writes: This whole talk about any repository but Extras is unsafe and evil is mostly bullshit, and I think most users are smart enough to know it. It might be mostly bullshit, but not entirely. If we teach people that it is normal to go hunting for alternative repositories, we substantially increase the risk that they run into unsafe and evil ones. The difference is between one or maybe three well known sources, and uncounted mostly unknown sources. You can have a million security frameworks on your device, but as long as you go and install stuff 'randomly' from the Internet, you are running a high risk. One of the first things that you learn when you grow up is that it is not a good idea to put everything into your mouth that you find on the ground. While nobody should be forced to funnel his packages through the few well known repositories, our users should more or less demand to find all the good stuff in them, because they know that these repositories are well-maintained and backed by a community: packages are not abandoned, and they can expect them to be updated when necessary. Thus, we should market the advantages of a centralized repository to our users (down to making adding new repositories with .install files more scary, but still fair), and work to reduce repository fragmentation by seeking out the 'rogue' ones and copying their packages into ours, if legal, and subject to the same QA as other packages, of course. This might also be a good opportunity for some of us to eat our own dog food. If would be great if the people who drive the maemo.org QA process would back this up by maintaining a good number of packages themselves. (Maybe they do, I really don't know.) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Is maemo.org web site down?
Is it only me or is the maemo.org site down? I only get a blank page. Cheers, Sascha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is maemo.org web site down?
Same here. Package viewer (http://maemo.org/packages/) appears down too. - ianaré sévi 2010/3/29 Sascha Mäkelä sascha.mak...@gmail.com: Is it only me or is the maemo.org site down? I only get a blank page. Cheers, Sascha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository
On Mar 29, 2010 9:07am, Marius Vollmer marius.voll...@nokia.com wrote: It might be mostly bullshit, but not entirely. If we teach people that it is normal to go hunting for alternative repositories, we substantially increase the risk that they run into unsafe and evil ones. I do not think anyone is teaching people to go hunting for alternative repositories here. What I do see though is that the Extras admission/promotions processes have become so bothersome to developers that they border on hostile. In relation to that, I would like to remind everyone that the life does not stop at Extras: it is *ok* to create and maintain your own repositories. If Extras management would like as many developers as possible to use Extras, they have to make actual changes to the admission/promotion process rather than continue repeating the everything but Extras is evil mantra. These changes have been discussed multiple times over the last 6 months, so it is somewhat sad to see that none of them are implemented. One of the first things that you learn when you grow up is that it is not a good idea to put everything into your mouth that you find on the ground. Another thing that you learn when you grow up is that grownups generally prefer making their own decisions rather than allowing their parents to continue making decisions for them. Thus, we should market the advantages of a centralized repository to our users (down to making adding new repositories with .install files more scary, but still fair), and work to reduce repository fragmentation by seeking out the 'rogue' ones and copying their packages into ours, if legal, and subject to the same QA as other packages, of course. So, but I am afraid this is not exactly the first thing you should do. :) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [Hildon-Extras] Proposing two new helper functions (logical font desc + color)
2010/3/24 Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de:
Thomas Perl wrote:
Is this something that we want to have in Hildon-Extras? If so, I'm
going to prepare a patch. The best place for this code is in
he-helper.{c,h}, right? The logical color and font names can be found
in the Fremantle Master Layout Guide (page 9 for fonts, page 17 for
colors), but of course I'd be including #defines for these names in
the HE implementation.
For me it would be perfectly ok to add it to he-helper. If no one else
objects, please add it!
Added:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php?view=revisionroot=hildon-extrasrevision=23
Feel free to use them in your code (especially tree views and stuff) to get
the correct styling. See the MæPad code for example code usage.
Thomas
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Re: Is maemo.org web site down?
Hi, On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 09:22 +0300, Sascha Mäkelä wrote: Is it only me or is the maemo.org site down? I only get a blank page. A general answer to this kind of question: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Xav ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository
On Monday 29 March 2010 08:07:06 Marius Vollmer wrote: all the good stuff in them, because they know that these repositories are well-maintained and backed by a community: packages are not abandoned, and they can expect them to be updated when necessary. Yes, we have not talked about this much but if you take a look at the gronmayer list now, you'll see that a good chunk of repos there has shut down, taking into oblivion their packages, too, and to make things worse, they nearly all miss the source section (most likely an unintentional oversight). Also, consider that the QA/testing process we have is a 'light' (and occasionally buggy ;) version of what happens in large distros (i.e. if you have trouble complying with Maemo's requirements, Debian stable compliance is lightyears away). The historical distros have all been through this phase of 'zillion packages from all over the net' and evolved towards centralized repositories for a reason (while keeping the *ability* to install whatever you want). I still think (and will lobby for) maemo.org supported PPAs as a recommended (not forced !) solution for testing/devel/procedural problems, instead of general repository anarchy. Regards, Attila ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository
On Mar 29, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 29 March 2010 08:07:06 Marius Vollmer wrote: all the good stuff in them, because they know that these repositories are well-maintained and backed by a community: packages are not abandoned, and they can expect them to be updated when necessary. Yes, we have not talked about this much but if you take a look at the gronmayer list now, you'll see that a good chunk of repos there has shut down, taking into oblivion their packages, too, and to make things worse, they nearly all miss the source section (most likely an unintentional oversight). Also a potential violation of the GPL. Also, consider that the QA/testing process we have is a 'light' (and occasionally buggy ;) version of what happens in large distros (i.e. if you have trouble complying with Maemo's requirements, Debian stable compliance is lightyears away). Indeed. The historical distros have all been through this phase of 'zillion packages from all over the net' and evolved towards centralized repositories for a reason (while keeping the *ability* to install whatever you want). I still think (and will lobby for) maemo.org supported PPAs as a recommended (not forced !) solution for testing/devel/procedural problems, instead of general repository anarchy. It might be the way to go. Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to include glib-object.h
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Christoph Eckert c...@christeck.de wrote: glib-object.h: No such file or directory This file includes further files, as listed here: http://bit.ly/dprcX6 I'm obviously missing some include path or similar. Appearently I'm a bloody hobbyist, so please bear with me :) . Any hint, even RTFM is much appreciated. Try adding -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include to your gcc invocation. martin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
What happend to the first page of popular downloads?
It seems to me, that the top 25 of popular downloads (or the ones with more than 5 downloads?) are not displayed anymore in maemo-downloads-popular (hot) Detlef ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to include glib-object.h
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 02:48:18PM +0530, Martin DeMello wrote: glib-object.h: No such file or directory Try adding -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include to your gcc invocation. Actually you should include `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0` Berto ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: How to include glib-object.h
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext Christoph Eckert [...@christeck.de] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:14 AM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: How to include glib-object.h Hi, I try to port a Maemo 4.1 pygtk application to Qt4 on Maemo 5. The application is running, but now it requires location data. Since the location API has changed in Maemo 5, I try to understand the example given at http://bit.ly/a3HTFD May be better solution is to use directly qt-mobility libqtm-location . Qt mobility will be foture proof cross platfrom solution. For marmatan native location API will anyhow change. For fremantle libqtmlocation is wrapper over liblocation0 . For Harmatan its is direct connection to dbus but API remains same. Kate As soon as I put #include location/location-gps-device.h #include location/location-gpsd-control.h in one of my files, the compiler complains: http://pastebin.com/c45NU0FB glib-object.h: No such file or directory This file includes further files, as listed here: http://bit.ly/dprcX6 I'm obviously missing some include path or similar. Appearently I'm a bloody hobbyist, so please bear with me :) . Any hint, even RTFM is much appreciated. Best regards, ce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository
ext luarvi...@gmail.com luarvi...@gmail.com writes: [...] What I do see though is that the Extras admission/promotions processes have become so bothersome to developers that they border on hostile. I don't have an opinion on this, since I am not at all involved in any of the specifics. (I have no packages in extras, for example.) In relation to that, I would like to remind everyone that the life does not stop at Extras: it is *ok* to create and maintain your own repositories. If Extras management would like as many developers as possible to use Extras, they have to make actual changes to the admission/promotion process rather than continue repeating the everything but Extras is evil mantra. Yes, very true. I didn't want to argue against this; sorry if I came across as defending the current QA process. I don't know the details of it, but I fully expect myself to agree with you if I would look into the details. One of the first things that you learn when you grow up is that it is not a good idea to put everything into your mouth that you find on the ground. Another thing that you learn when you grow up is that grownups generally prefer making their own decisions rather than allowing their parents to continue making decisions for them. Yes, and as you grow up more, you start taking responsibilities for others and then you see that your parents weren't all that wrong back then. Thus, we should market the advantages of a centralized repository to our users (down to making adding new repositories with .install files more scary, but still fair), and work to reduce repository fragmentation by seeking out the 'rogue' ones and copying their packages into ours, if legal, and subject to the same QA as other packages, of course. So, but I am afraid this is not exactly the first thing you should do. :) Yes, I agree. I just don't feel comfortable talking about the QA process, since I know nothing about it. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 29 March 2010 08:07:06 Marius Vollmer wrote: all the good stuff in them, because they know that these repositories are well-maintained and backed by a community: packages are not abandoned, and they can expect them to be updated when necessary. Yes, we have not talked about this much but if you take a look at the gronmayer list now, you'll see that a good chunk of repos there has shut down, taking into oblivion their packages, too, and to make things worse, they nearly all miss the source section (most likely an unintentional oversight). With the current state of extras-devel, long term availability is hardly a point that should be raised against other repositories. At least the source is available. Also, consider that the QA/testing process we have is a 'light' (and occasionally buggy ;) version of what happens in large distros (i.e. if you have trouble complying with Maemo's requirements, Debian stable compliance is lightyears away). The historical distros have all been through this phase of 'zillion packages from all over the net' and evolved towards centralized repositories for a reason (while keeping the *ability* to install whatever you want). I still think (and will lobby for) maemo.org supported PPAs as a recommended (not forced !) solution for testing/devel/procedural problems, instead of general repository anarchy. The distros you compare have a lot of packagers who go through the QA process, not the developers. Maemo, on the other hand, has very few people who take other people's program and package them. Thus, you expect the developers to go through the QA process themselves, so this comparison is not really valid. -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Ask for removal of some packages from Extras Fremantle repository
On Monday 29 March 2010 13:13:14 you wrote: With the current state of extras-devel, long term availability is hardly a point that should be raised against other repositories. At least the source is available. I feel this is more to the fact that very few people use 3rd party repositories and they don't have real any place to voice their problems or repo breakage (except for the gronmeyer site itself, but that's not problem solving, just repo list sanitizing). Remember how we lost Ruby on Maemo ? The distros you compare have a lot of packagers who go through the QA process, not the developers. Maemo, on the other hand, has very few people who take other people's program and package them. Thus, you expect the developers to go through the QA process themselves, so this comparison is not really valid. So instead of finding people to help with maintainership, packaging and/or the QA process, we just ditch the whole thing and go packaging guerilla ? That's a move of convenience at best, hardly a solution (especially for end-users). Regards, Attila ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Is maemo.org web site down?
Yes, the site was down in the morning. Apparently the cache used for http decided to have 0 sized files in it. Tero -Original Message- From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-developers- boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext ianaré sévi Sent: 29 March, 2010 09:27 To: Sascha Mäkelä Cc: maemo-developers Subject: Re: Is maemo.org web site down? Same here. Package viewer (http://maemo.org/packages/) appears down too. - ianaré sévi 2010/3/29 Sascha Mäkelä sascha.mak...@gmail.com: Is it only me or is the maemo.org site down? I only get a blank page. Cheers, Sascha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: What happend to the first page of popular downloads?
On Mon, March 29, 2010 11:20, ds wrote: It seems to me, that the top 25 of popular downloads (or the ones with more than 5 downloads?) are not displayed anymore in maemo-downloads-popular (hot) Popular (hot) is based on application karma. Which consists of relative download growth, rating and comments. That should not favor the most downloaded apps. If you want to see the list by downloads you should use this link: http://maemo.org/downloads/list/Maemo5/all/ That is also avaliable by clicking on the number behind 'Downloads for Maemo5' on the main page of Downloads. Detlef -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is maemo.org web site down?
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Xavier Bestel xavier.bes...@free.fr wrote: A general answer to this kind of question: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ In this case though, that site provided no assistance. Connections to the maemo.org web server weren't failing, and the question wasn't whether or not they were. Instead, the problem was that the web server (okay, technically its cache) was providing connected clients with empty files. -stephen ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to include glib-object.h
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 11:24 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: Actually you should include `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0` Well, actually, the location library apparently provides a pkg-config file that he should check for instead, so he doesn't have to worry about checking for its glib dependency. However, this example suggests that the liblocation pkg-config file is broken, because it suggests checking for glib too. Well, that whole pkg-config call is very strange. http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Connectivity_Components/Using_Location_API#Using_Location_API CCing David so he can investigate. -- murr...@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
Hi all, After making some updates to my package and putting it up on extras-devel, it won't update on the device from the repository. I was able to install it on scratchbox (both prior to and after updating the SDK). Here are the missing dependencies : libqt4-core (= 4.6.2~git20100224) libqt4-dbus (= 4.6.2~git20100224) libqt4-gui (= 4.6.2~git20100224) libqt4-xml (= 4.6.2~git20100224) How do I fix this ? Thank you, - ianaré sévi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
Dnia poniedziałek, 29 marca 2010 o 16:37:54 ianaré sévi napisał(a): After making some updates to my package and putting it up on extras-devel, it won't update on the device from the repository. I was able to install it on scratchbox (both prior to and after updating the SDK). How do I fix this ? Wait for November^Wnext firmware drop. When it will be released is unknown but it will fix your problem. I just hope that it will be before developers will start to leave this ship. Regards, -- JID: h...@jabber.org Website: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcinjuszkiewicz ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
Please tell me you're kidding. Because now my app isn't even available in the catalogue. Is there a way of specifiying to use the older packages ? Or deleting the new build from the server ? - ianaré sévi 2010/3/29 Marcin Juszkiewicz mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl: Dnia poniedziałek, 29 marca 2010 o 16:37:54 ianaré sévi napisał(a): After making some updates to my package and putting it up on extras-devel, it won't update on the device from the repository. I was able to install it on scratchbox (both prior to and after updating the SDK). How do I fix this ? Wait for November^Wnext firmware drop. When it will be released is unknown but it will fix your problem. I just hope that it will be before developers will start to leave this ship. Regards, -- JID: ...@jabber.org Website: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcinjuszkiewicz ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
Dnia poniedziałek, 29 marca 2010 o 16:48:30 ianaré sévi napisał(a): Please tell me you're kidding. No, I am not kidding. It was discussed here on mailing list and announced that Extras autobuilder will be updated to PR 1.2 compatible SDK and that resulting packages will be installable only on devices owned by Nokia employed people (and some from cooperating companies). Other users (and developers) have to wait for next firmware drop (which does not have release date as usual so it can be tomorrow or in next year). Because now my app isn't even available in the catalogue. Is there a way of specifiying to use the older packages? No such option. Downgrade SDK on your home machine and do build there. Or deleting the new build from the server ? This maybe is possible but I do not know details. Regards, -- JID: h...@jabber.org Website: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcinjuszkiewicz ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
2010/3/29 Marcin Juszkiewicz mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl: Dnia poniedziałek, 29 marca 2010 o 16:48:30 ianaré sévi napisał(a): Please tell me you're kidding. No, I am not kidding. It was discussed here on mailing list and announced that Extras autobuilder will be updated to PR 1.2 compatible SDK and that resulting packages will be installable only on devices owned by Nokia employed people (and some from cooperating companies). Other users (and developers) have to wait for next firmware drop (which does not have release date as usual so it can be tomorrow or in next year). I saw that discussion, but I didn't think it would actually break any new build of a previously working package. Because now my app isn't even available in the catalogue. Is there a way of specifiying to use the older packages? No such option. Downgrade SDK on your home machine and do build there. If I build on my machine can I still have it included in extras ? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: What happend to the first page of popular downloads?
Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 15:10 +0200 schrieb Niels Breet: On Mon, March 29, 2010 11:20, ds wrote: It seems to me, that the top 25 of popular downloads (or the ones with more than 5 downloads?) are not displayed anymore in maemo-downloads-popular (hot) Popular (hot) is based on application karma. Which consists of relative download growth, rating and comments. That should not favor the most downloaded apps. OK, I did not recognize the change:-) Where is the algorithm documented, it looks to me a very strange result. What do you mean with relative download growth? What is the aim to put this in. Where can I find application karma ... Questions over questions:-) If you want to see the list by downloads you should use this link: http://maemo.org/downloads/list/Maemo5/all/ That is also avaliable by clicking on the number behind 'Downloads for Maemo5' on the main page of Downloads. Detlef -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
Dnia poniedziałek, 29 marca 2010 o 17:10:07 ianaré sévi napisał(a): 2010/3/29 Marcin Juszkiewicz mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl: Dnia poniedziałek, 29 marca 2010 o 16:48:30 ianaré sévi napisał(a): Please tell me you're kidding. No, I am not kidding. It was discussed here on mailing list and announced that Extras autobuilder will be updated to PR 1.2 compatible SDK and that resulting packages will be installable only on devices owned by Nokia employed people (and some from cooperating companies). Other users (and developers) have to wait for next firmware drop (which does not have release date as usual so it can be tomorrow or in next year). I saw that discussion, but I didn't think it would actually break any new build of a previously working package. And it did not broke build. It just made it's results not installable on current devices. If I build on my machine can I still have it included in extras ? Only in 'non-free' section as it allows to upload binary packages. But I do not think that it will be accepted. Regards, -- JID: h...@jabber.org Website: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcinjuszkiewicz ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: What happend to the first page of popular downloads?
On Mon, March 29, 2010 17:13, ds wrote: Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 15:10 +0200 schrieb Niels Breet: On Mon, March 29, 2010 11:20, ds wrote: It seems to me, that the top 25 of popular downloads (or the ones with more than 5 downloads?) are not displayed anymore in maemo-downloads-popular (hot) Popular (hot) is based on application karma. Which consists of relative download growth, rating and comments. That should not favor the most downloaded apps. OK, I did not recognize the change:-) Where is the algorithm documented, it looks to me a very strange result. What do you mean with relative download growth? What is the aim to put this in. Where can I find application karma ... Questions over questions:-) http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Karma_for_applications http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-commun...@maemo.org/msg02173.html Was quite a long discussion in this list :) -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to include glib-object.h
On 2010-03-29 15:25, Murray Cumming murr...@murrayc.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 11:24 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: Actually you should include `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0` Well, actually, the location library apparently provides a pkg-config file that he should check for instead, so he doesn't have to worry about checking for its glib dependency. However, this example suggests that the liblocation pkg-config file is broken, because it suggests checking for glib too. Well, that whole pkg-config call is very strange. http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Connectivity_Components/Using_Location_API#Using_Location_API CCing David so he can investigate. I fixed the pkg-config invocation to be less misleading: pkg-config --cflags --libs liblocation and as the liblocation pkg-config file correctly depends on glib-2.0, that is included automatically in the compiler and linker flags. -- David King | http://amigadave.com/ | dav...@openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
Hi, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: No, I am not kidding. It was discussed here on mailing list and announced that Extras autobuilder will be updated to PR 1.2 compatible SDK and that resulting packages will be installable only on devices owned by Nokia employed people (and some from cooperating companies). Other users (and developers) have to wait for next firmware drop (which does not have release date as usual so it can be tomorrow or in next year). Now now Marcin, that's not what was said. what was said was that software built with the PR 1.2 SDK would probably only install on devices with PR 1.2 installed. That's not the same thing. ianaré, normally all you have to do is upgrade the firmware on your N900 to PR 1.2, as I understand it. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: OpenCL on Maemo
Tomasz Rybak skrev: So, official Nokia document requires Maemo devices to provide OpenCL capabilities but currently there is no possibility to write code using OpenCL. Is it just left for later to implement (first go updates, additional features must wait) or MeeGo changed everything and there is no hope for OpenCL? No, it wasn't left for later either. From my understanding, the Maemo Base Port is/was a requirement document for future Maemo devices. It never applied to the N900. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
OK got it to work, I simply set the Qt dependencies to 4.5 (instead of 4.6) manually instead on relying on the builder scripts ... - ianaré sévi 2010/3/29 Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org: Hi, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: No, I am not kidding. It was discussed here on mailing list and announced that Extras autobuilder will be updated to PR 1.2 compatible SDK and that resulting packages will be installable only on devices owned by Nokia employed people (and some from cooperating companies). Other users (and developers) have to wait for next firmware drop (which does not have release date as usual so it can be tomorrow or in next year). Now now Marcin, that's not what was said. what was said was that software built with the PR 1.2 SDK would probably only install on devices with PR 1.2 installed. That's not the same thing. ianaré, normally all you have to do is upgrade the firmware on your N900 to PR 1.2, as I understand it. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
would building QT4.6 apps by linking with libqt4-maemo5* still work ? AFAIK , these libqt4-maemo5* are still being kept for QT4.7 development. Now if that is true, atleast for the QT4.6 apps still in extras-devel we can still upload to the repository and it will work on the device as well. Im aware they cant be promoted to extras-testing due to the bloack but atleast users and developers using the app from extras-devel will be able to use it this way. Once PR1.2 is on the device we can link these back to libqt4-* as they will be version 4.6 then on the device. Anybody tried it yet or is this not possible ? - Original Message - From: ianaré sévi Sent: 03/29/10 05:58 PM To: Dave Neary Subject: Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder OK got it to work, I simply set the Qt dependencies to 4.5 (instead of 4.6) manually instead on relying on the builder scripts ... - ianaré sévi 2010/3/29 Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org: Hi, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: No, I am not kidding. It was discussed here on mailing list and announced that Extras autobuilder will be updated to PR 1.2 compatible SDK and that resulting packages will be installable only on devices owned by Nokia employed people (and some from cooperating companies). Other users (and developers) have to wait for next firmware drop (which does not have release date as usual so it can be tomorrow or in next year). Now now Marcin, that's not what was said. what was said was that software built with the PR 1.2 SDK would probably only install on devices with PR 1.2 installed. That's not the same thing. ianaré, normally all you have to do is upgrade the firmware on your N900 to PR 1.2, as I understand it. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Dependency problems after PR 1.2 update to extras builder
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 06:00:25PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: No, I am not kidding. It was discussed here on mailing list and announced that Extras autobuilder will be updated to PR 1.2 compatible SDK and that resulting packages will be installable only on devices owned by Nokia employed people (and some from cooperating companies). Other users (and developers) have to wait for next firmware drop (which does not have release date as usual so it can be tomorrow or in next year). Now now Marcin, that's not what was said. what was said was that software built with the PR 1.2 SDK would probably only install on devices with PR 1.2 installed. That's not the same thing. True: *some* packages built with today's autobuilder do install on devices with PR 1.1.1 firmware. Some don't. ianaré, normally all you have to do is upgrade the firmware on your N900 to PR 1.2, as I understand it. Gladly. The problem here is that nobody has access to PR 1.2 firmware, except for some people working for Nokia. Regards, Marius Gedminas -- I dont know about madness (and anyway, the little green martians dancing around me tell me not to worry...), but I've implemented something not unlike this just now. -- Peter Sabaini signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
SDL keyboard issues with Maemo 5
Hi all, I'm porting a game that makes use of the Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) libraries to Maemo 5 (N900). I succeeded with all stuff except to get inputs from the keyboard; no keydown/keyup event triggers. Could it be a problem relating the SDL libraries interface provided with SDK? Can someone give me a hint to solve this issue? Regards, LC Luigi Cotignano website: http://n900.altervista.org irc: embedded @ irc.freenode.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: SDL keyboard issues with Maemo 5
Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 20:16 +0200 schrieb n900.altervista.org: I'm porting a game that makes use of the Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) libraries to Maemo 5 (N900). I succeeded with all stuff except to get inputs from the keyboard; no keydown/keyup event triggers. Could it be a problem relating the SDL libraries interface provided with SDK? Can someone give me a hint to solve this issue? I had https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5153 in mind when reading this, but not sure as I don't know enough of this stuff. andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: SDL keyboard issues with Maemo 5
Andre thanks for your hint, but that bug report addressed another type of issue relating SDL. I have tried also to find some other bug into Bugzilla about SDL, but I have found nothing related my problem. Any other suggestion? Luigi Andre Klapper wrote: Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 20:16 +0200 schrieb n900.altervista.org: I'm porting a game that makes use of the Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) libraries to Maemo 5 (N900). I succeeded with all stuff except to get inputs from the keyboard; no keydown/keyup event triggers. Could it be a problem relating the SDL libraries interface provided with SDK? Can someone give me a hint to solve this issue? I had https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5153 in mind when reading this, but not sure as I don't know enough of this stuff. andre ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Meego and mafw
Hello, Is there any information available about the multimedia framework that will be used by Meego? Any future for mafw? I'd like to work on the project Porting Canola to N900 as a Gsoc student and I've been discussing with canola developers the possibility to use mafw. Thanks, -- Andrei Mirestean ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Fwd: gsoc project 2010 !
-- Forwarded message -- From: anky ankurdn...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM Subject: Re: gsoc project 2010 ! To: Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com on my recent conversations with frank, and thinking and brainstorming over it... i have got this idea of adding an application that would allow users to sync with their google docs especially since it now offers online storage for any kind of file( and not just office documents). It would be nice to have it included in the framework. what say ?? also..i have been having some issues of accessing gmail inbox mails... can somebody brief me over accessing inbox feeds through the google inbox feed API... which authorization to be used( OAuth or ClientLogin API) and wether we can access the mail feeds without being an administrator of a domain or u need a domain for it ?? ( i personally have studied these things but am a little confused and wanted things to be cleared out before i submit my final proposal)... awaiting reply soon. thanks ! On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:01 AM, anky ankurdn...@gmail.com wrote: @Tor http://jgoday.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/rest-client-with-qt-45/ refer to this example to know how qt can be used to communicate to a web service through requests through its QNetworkAccessManager class...in this case a REST client has been made. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Tor lists.th.arnt...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for jumping in here, but the above advice confuses me. I'm not very familiar with Qt, but from what I see at http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qtcore.html QtCore is a user interface QtGui is the user interface API, QtCore / QtNetwork / etc. provide the necessary plumbing. E.g. QNetworkAccessManager could probably be used instead of libcurl. -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- ANKY -- ANKY -- ANKY ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
How to use MySQL with Maemo 5?
I'm trying to retrieve data from a MySQL server. I use the following example code (with some slight modifications): Code: QSqlDatabase db = QSqlDatabase::addDatabase(QMYSQL); db.setHostName(bigblue); db.setDatabaseName(flightdb); db.setUserName(acarlson); db.setPassword(1uTbSbAs); bool ok = db.open(); But I get the following error: Quote: QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL driver not loaded QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QSQLITE Is MySQL even supported in Maemo or am I doing something wrong? I also found the following two links: http://qt.nokia.com/doc/4.6/sql-driver.html http://qt.nokia.com/doc/4.6/install-x11.html But I'm not quite sure where I should install these drivers. Should I install them in my Windows computer, where I'm using MADDE and Qt Creator (well, actually I'm using now the Qt Creator 2.0 Technology Preview, so I'm not quite sure if it's using MADDE any more)? Or should I install them on the target N900? Or both? Or am I completely on the wrong tracks here? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Sascha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
