Re: Community updates for diablo
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: Will there be any SDK/autobuilder updates to go with this? Not required right now, but it's an interesting question. For example, one existing request is to enable ogg support in sdl-mixer which would require /something/ to be done in order for extras apps to be able to use it. I'm not sure what the right solution would be. The recent work on the Fremantle side seems particularly relevant, but may be too much work for this. Niels, what do you think? I am assuming anything built with the current autobuilder should work with this community update -- is that right? Are there any updates to any libraries? Everything should work fine for now. There are some libraries in the updates but they only contain bug fixes (no API changes). L. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Community updates for diablo
Hi, Just reminder about official Diablo kernel fix for USB networking with Windows PCs that seems to be missing from the list. Patch and rebuilt Diablo kernel can be downloaded from here: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php. See file diablo_kernel_usbnet_patch_windows_v0.4.zip for details. kernel-diablo: * Fixes: BMO#2249: FM Radio frequency not set for use in Japan. Martin Grimme martin.grimme at lintegra.de * Fixes: BMO#2491: cant run camera applications with v4l2. Sakari Ailus sakari.ailus at nokia.com * Fixes: BMO#3123: Patch to kernel to allow DSP framebuffer sharing on N8x0 devices. Simon Pickering S.G.Pickering at bath.ac.uk * Fixes: BMO#3519: Integrate screen rotation patches into stock kernel. Luarvique L. Luarvique luarvique at gmail.com * Changed debian/rules to do a parallel make because Diablo's dpkg-buildpackage is too old to support -j and I'm lazy. This patch we did is actually back port from generic Linux kernel to Diablo as this was generic problem in Linux kernel at Diablo times. Cheers, //Jarmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Community updates for diablo
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: Will there be any SDK/autobuilder updates to go with this? Not required right now, but it's an interesting question. For example, one existing request is to enable ogg support in sdl-mixer which would require /something/ to be done in order for extras apps to be able to use it. I'm not sure what the right solution would be. The recent work on the Fremantle side seems particularly relevant, but may be too much work for this. Niels, what do you think? The devkit + symbols might be a solution. But that also means that we basically need to create our own SDK :) We can say that the for instance say that from a certain point in time diablo is only supported for devices running the community version of diablo. (Discussion welcome) We would need to create a community sdk repo with the updated libraries too. And the autobuilder would use that sdk. Having both a plain diablo Extras and a community ssu compatible Extras would probably not be worth it as the number of downloads for diablo are really low. Diablo seems to be EOL for Nokia, although not officially announced. Everybody wanting new latest and greatest software should use the community SSU at some point? Extras is a community run repository, whatever the community agrees on goes. I am assuming anything built with the current autobuilder should work with this community update -- is that right? Are there any updates to any libraries? Everything should work fine for now. There are some libraries in the updates but they only contain bug fixes (no API changes). L. -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
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Re: Community updates for diablo
jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, Just reminder about official Diablo kernel fix for USB networking with Windows PCs that seems to be missing from the list. Many things are missing from the list. I guess the posted list is not final? To me it looks more like what is included in current first testing version. Much longer list of possible fixes seems to be here http://wiki.maemo.org/Talk:Diablo_Community_Project , usb networing fix is listed as g_ether / RNDIS is broken in kernel 2.6.21 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Community updates for diablo
Hi, -Original Message- From: ext Frantisek Dufka [mailto:duf...@seznam.cz] Sent: 05 May, 2010 16:07 To: Tikka Jarmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki) Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: Community updates for diablo jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, Just reminder about official Diablo kernel fix for USB networking with Windows PCs that seems to be missing from the list. Many things are missing from the list. I guess the posted list is not final? To me it looks more like what is included in current first testing version. Much longer list of possible fixes seems to be here http://wiki.maemo.org/Talk:Diablo_Community_Project , usb networing fix is listed as g_ether / RNDIS is broken in kernel 2.6.21 This list at wiki looks more useful and as you said that USB fix seems to be included. Cheers, //Jarmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Fw: [MeeGo-dev] Fw: Akademy talk acceptance (Enhancing User Engagement on Mobile Devices)
FYI for those not on the MeeGo lists. Randy - Original message - From: Randall Arnold tex...@ovi.com To: MeeGo Dev List meego-...@meego.com, MeeGo community meego-commun...@meego.com Subject: [MeeGo-dev] Fw: Akademy talk acceptance (Enhancing User Engagement on Mobile Devices) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 09:29:51 -0500 Great news everyone!� The talk on�Enhancing User Engagement on Mobile Devices�has been accepted for�Akademy 2010!� To catch up anyone who may not be familiar with the goal, this is the effort to bring bug reporting, application rating, user karma and related feedback-oriented features to handheld Linux devices.� The Meego-specific project info is on the MeeGo wiki [1].� A living draft of the whitepaper itself can be found on Google Docs and is open to editing [2]. For this many people deserve thanks and I hope I can count on them (you) to help with the final whitepaper and presentation.� Specifically, more is needed for or from the following: - Simulation.� It would be useful to have Qt-developed applications that simulate a device-based bug-reporting tool for the presentation (better yet, something functional!) - Project Silk.� This is the KDE project responsible for bringing web APIs to Linux devices.� No response yet from the project; I am concerned it may be defunct - Ovi.� I have reached out to Nokia to see where Ovi's strengths can be leveraged more, especially in the area of gaming achievements and ratings.� No response yet. - Details.� I am unfamiliar with many specifics needed to support this effort and could sure use help on fleshing out details! - Presentation.� I am really looking not just for help but for co-authors and co-presenter(s).� There's a chance that I will not be able to make it to Akademy 2010 (I will need sponsorship or for American Airlines to let me use air miles, which is doubtful right now) so it would be extremely helpful to have a co-presenter who could deliver the talk. The talk is designed at a fairly high-level but references MeeGo as the platform of choice. Akademy 2010 is 3 July to 10 July in Tampere, Finland.� I do not have a scheduled date for the talk yet but will keep everyone informed. Randall (Randy) Arnold maemo.org community council blog: http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com cell: +18177396806 irc: Texrat @ irc.freenode.net twitter: http://twitter.com/texrat linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tabletman [1] http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_User_Engagement_Framework_Project [2] http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQAht1tOx2U6ZGRoYmg4eGdfNWNkMjhid2Nmhl=en - Original message - From: Lydia Pintscher ly...@kde.org To: tex...@ovi.com Subject: Akademy talk acceptance Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 15:31:55 +0200 Hi Randall, the Akademy program committee is happy to let you know that your talk Enhancing User Engagement on Mobile Devices has been accepted. The exact schedule will be published soon. Please send in a short bio for the website. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher Amarok community manager kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org claimid.com/nightrose -- Ovi Mail: Free email account from Nokia http://mail.ovi.com � -- Ovi Mail: Get mail on your mobile or the web http://mail.ovi.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fw: [MeeGo-dev] Fw: Akademy talk acceptance (Enhancing User Engagement on Mobile Devices)
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Randall Arnold tex...@ovi.com wrote: - Project Silk. This is the KDE project responsible for bringing web APIs to Linux devices. No response yet from the project; I am concerned it may be defunct It's not a defunct. Look for sebas or richmoore on Freenode (usually #plasma or #kde-devel). I can put you in touch with them if you need help. - Details. I am unfamiliar with many specifics needed to support this effort and could sure use help on fleshing out details! If I can help somehow just tell me - Presentation. I am really looking not just for help but for co-authors and co-presenter(s). There's a chance that I will not be able to make it to Akademy 2010 (I will need sponsorship or for American Airlines to let me use air miles, which is doubtful right now) so it would be extremely helpful to have a co-presenter who could deliver the talk. I'm probably giving a talk about plasma-mobile with another kde developer. If you need help I can also provide some on this topic :) Cheers, -- --- http://claimid.com/morpheuz Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fw: [MeeGo-dev] Fw: Akademy talk acceptance (Enhancing User Engagement on Mobile Devices)
- Original message - From: MoRpHeUz morph...@gmail.com To: Randall Arnold tex...@ovi.com Subject: Re: Fw: [MeeGo-dev] Fw: Akademy talk acceptance (Enhancing User Engagement on Mobile Devices) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 14:52:27 -0300 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Randall Arnold tex...@ovi.com wrote: - Project Silk.� This is the KDE project responsible for bringing web APIs to Linux devices.� No response yet from the project; I am concerned it may be defunct It's not a defunct. Look for sebas or richmoore on Freenode (usually #plasma or #kde-devel). I can put you in touch with them if you need help. Thanks.� I had sent an email to a project lead with no response yet (forgot name), and joined mailing list but have seen no activity and no response to an email there.� I will follow up. - Details.� I am unfamiliar with many specifics needed to support this effort and could sure use help on fleshing out details! If I can help somehow just tell me Well, if you get the time, please examine the current materials (especially whitepaper and draft presentation) and see if you note any gaps that you can fill or flesh out. Some background: most of my related work has been in the proprietary world (VB programming, PDM work, SQL�Server and Oracle databases, etc) and I've only recently begun moving into the open source world.� So where this project really needs help is in identifying details that support the high-level concepts proposed. Details will not be so important for Akademy but they are crucial to the project.� Process diagramming, identifying useful libraries and services and related work are needed. - Presentation.� I am really looking not just for help but for co-authors and co-presenter(s).� There's a chance that I will not be able to make it to Akademy 2010 (I will need sponsorship or for American Airlines to let me use air miles, which is doubtful right now) so it would be extremely helpful to have a co-presenter who could deliver the talk. I'm probably giving a talk about plasma-mobile with another kde developer. If you need help I can also provide some on this topic :) Great!� I am going to do my best to make it.� Just not easy on my poor budget... Randy -- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Why should I write apps for Maemo?
The continued delay of PR 1.2 has caused me to pose this question. Without customized packaging, I cannot reliably publish applications to the global maemo.org repositories at this time. Also having APIs in flux without knowing when the new version is coming out makes me even less interested. Sure, you can compile a new kernel or create a trivial application all day long and ship it today, but I wish to write some rather advanced applications that cover a broad range of APIs. At most, the SDK should have been released two weeks ahead of the final release. With a little over a month now on the clock, people can only begin to speculate as to how poor Nokia's release management is working. I, as a software developer, realize that unexpected issues can occur causing unexpected delays, so this e-mail is not a Nokia hurry up plea, but a concern that developing for Maemo requires a serious commitment to add checks for multiple versions of APIs and packaging requirements. If I relied on the ability to publish commercial applications to the Ovi Store, I'd be living in the street. It's been six months and the Ovi Store for Maemo is still without a commercial solution and is extremely limited in general. In closing, I have a few questions to propose since communication from Nokia in general is hit or miss (some are better than others, I realize): -Why was the PR1.2 SDK released at the time it was released? -If there will be any updates PR1.2, have there been discussions on changing the staged release of the SDK? -Is PR1.2 still going to be released? (I am not looking for a release date) -Where are those Ovi Store applications that we have been taunted with videos of? -Will there be a commercial solution with the Ovi Store or should I expect to create my own retail store? Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
