Re: license not for free
Hi Raymond, If you still have that email can you forward it to priv...@openoffice.apache.org ? We can then investigate this further. Thanks! -Rob On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Raymond van den Boorn rgpvdbo...@zeelandnet.nl wrote: I recently received mailings which contained information how to obtain a license for your Open Office program, not for free, but for only € 49,95.As a satisfied early adopter of Open Office, I just want to warn you that there are people who want to sell your program. Kind Regards, Raymond van den Boorn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Link broken on Help Wanted confluence page
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Antoine Chevrier 1antoinechevri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. On the page Help Wanted https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted of ApacheOpenOffice confluence space, the link inside the top introduction section - link called 14 Ways to contribute .../... - goes to a 404 page. I can't help for fix it. But maybe somebody of this list could. Thanks, I fixed that, replacing with a link to another copy of that same article. This sounds like an area that we could/should automate, identifying broken links. Does anyone know of a good tool for this? I also noticed quite a few outdated references to incubator-era resources, e.g., ooo-dev mailing list, incubator versions of the website, etc. We fixed these old references in the static part of out website by simply grepping the source files. Is there any similar way to find these in CWiki/MWiki? -Rob Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Latest survey data on OpenOffice user
New post on my personal blog which may be of interest to the AOO community: http://www.robweir.com/blog/2014/10/the-power-of-brand-and-the-power-of-product-redux.html This gives updated survey results (the 5th time I've done this survey) looking at OpenOffice name recognition and use. I'd recommend looking at those charts for the details, but the summary is worth repeating: Since coming to Apache, OpenOffice’s name recognition has grown from 24% to 39% and the user share has grown from 11% to 18%, while keeping user satisfaction constant. This is a testament to the hard work of the many talented volunteers at Apache. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-10-24 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: Those who know the history know that Apache OpenOffice is the continuation of the OpenOffice.org project, which itself came from a proprietary suite developed in Germany called StarOffice, which itself started as StarWriter, an application written in 1985 by Marco Börries . So next year, in 2015, will be our 30th anniversary. Any ideas what we might do? For example, does anyone still have a Zilog Z80 (or an emulator) that can run the original StarWriter? I'm still a proud owner of a ZX Spectrum Sinclair 48k, never heard about a StarWriter app, though. Does it exist, ideas about to get it? Cool! This is from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice#History It references a page on our wiki that claims StarWriter 1.0 was released in 1985. No idea where to get the code. Maybe Juergen or another old-timer would have a clue for us? -Rob Roberto It looks like some emulators here: http://www.z80.info/z80emu.htm#EMU_CPU_W32 It might be interesting to show the history of Writer, from release to release, via a set of screen shots (or a movie) showing the evolution of the UI. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unofficial?
On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org javascript:;] I can't share details, but this has been under investigation for some months (yes, trademark issues take long, unfortunately, especially against smart guys). What Joerg writes remains mostly correct: it is possible to resell unmodified copies of virtually all free software. But this site is not allowed to use our trademarks, which include the icons with gulls. Is this a real problem? I mean that one of the icons, can not use it freely _because of the gulls_? In my view, the icons are part of the software and can be used under the Apache license. I mean that quite practical because the icons are part of eg soffice.exe, so part of the real software. You can buy a copy of Microsoft Windows, but that does not mean you can use the logo on your website. The permission to use the software and copy and distribute it is distinct from permission to use the trademarks in a commercial way. The Apache license does not give permission to use the trademarks in that way. -Rob Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:;
Re: unofficial?
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] You can buy a copy of Microsoft Windows, but that does not mean you can use the logo on your website. That is clear, but Microsoft is an interesting keyword regarding Licensing issues. Microsoft claims for himself as the right of the screenshots MS software may only be used if they are used for illustration of an article does not attempt to negatively portray the MS software. [*] I think these or similar conditions should not be an option for free software, so I'm unsure whether it may be unlawful to use the (unedited!) Part of a screenshot of AOO on a website. The PMC receives regular requests from publishers asking permission to use screen shots from AOO. -Rob [*] Sorry, I have no source at hand, but the whole thing is true for MS Office 2000 in the United States. We have discussed a few years ago in the OOo community and it has remained in my mind. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Updated download stats
I've updated our stats page with the data for July: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html The new total is 112,491,971. I'd expect a big pickup in volume in a few weeks, as students start returning to school. I wonder if a student-focused blog post might be good? For example, post on The Top 10 OpenOffice Templates for Students or something like that? Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM, James Grenier greni...@middlesex.mass.edu wrote: Thank you, Andrea, that is helpful. Is there enough need for this that we should explore having contacts by country/language again? Or was that too cumbersome a process? As a volunteer-led project we can't assume that we have an available contact on any given day in any given country. Generally journalists expect a quick response. So we don't want to advertise a named media contact, someone who has a day job and goes on vacation, etc. Instead we advertise the pr...@openoffice.apache.org address and then the PMC finds an appropriate person to follow up, based on who is available at the time. This has worked well. Also, we make a distinction between: 1) Someone being interviewed as a contributor to OpenOffice, but expressing their own views and not officially speaking on behalf of the project. 2) Someone wanting an official statement on behalf of the project. We're glad to help with #1, but we don't put a lot of structure around it. Regards, -Rob J. M. Grenier, M.Ed. Faculty, Business and Humanities greni...@middlesex.mass.edu Cell: (339)222-1442 All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree - Albert Einstein From: Andrea Pescetti [pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:47 AM To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show On 18/05/2014 Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 5/17/14, James Grenier wrote: Is there an official spokesperson who should be referred to if members of the mainstream or new media ask? MarCons used to be them (Marketing Contacts). I used to be one for Spanish countries on the OOo days. At the moment we have the press e-mail address for all media inquiries (and indeed we have no other structure). See http://openoffice.apache.org/press.html Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Crazy idea for fun video
I don't know if this kind of thing exists in other countries as well, but in the U.S. we have a bunch of these documentaries on T.V. that propose various historical conspiracies. A typical one will look at the Egyptian pyramids, or the Easter Island statues, and talk about the primitive level of technology available at the time, marvel at the accomplishment and inevitably suggest that this is the work of ancient astronauts or something like that. The style of the documentary is mainly still photographs, space age music, field interviews with experts, and a somber voice over, preferably someone who sounds like Leonard Nimoy. I'm thinking, what if we did something like that for OpenOffice? Here we have a seemingly impossible feat of technology, a complex application, but no giant corporation. How can such a thing exist? Isn't this far beyond the capabilities of a bunch of volunteers? Certainly secret forces are at work. Aliens? It would require some work, but I think we could pull it off. Thoughts? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I would be interview next week about the Apache OpenOffice community for this TV show from Chile. The usual questions would be the history of Apache OpenOffice/OpenOffice.org, the current state of the community, the size of the latinamerican/spanish community. It's growth rate, and companies currently using Apache OpenOffice. I would like to forward these questions and see if I can get some information about this. You can refer to this page for download numbers by country. It shows, for example, 308K downloads from Chile. http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html -Rob Regards. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice Weekly News
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:37 PM Rob Weir wrote: In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb project was doing on their blog: https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3 I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular intervals. The feedback was good, so let's give it a try! The template, with a little content to get started is on the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page Id=40508638 As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the wiki. When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset the wiki so we can start again for the next issue. I think this is an interesting idea. What do you think what is the target group that is? Only project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want to stay up to date? I think it would be a mix of two audiences: 1) Project members who focus on one are of the project, say, translation, but want to have a high level view of what is happening in other areas of the project. 2) Users who don't subscribe to our mailing lists but are interested in knowing what happens between releases. In the latter case, it would not make sense these blog posts to translate into important passages [**] and to link to the Native Language websites? That sounds like a lot of work. But if you want to do it... Another possibility to consider: We could include native language stories directly in main wiki page. For example, the 100 million download post had coverage in Italian and French. They could be included directly. If there is an interesting thread on a native language mailing list or forum, that could be added, etc. So the main post could be international and multi-lingual, but not translated. -Rob [*] Note: also, for example Consutants (http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html) are ultimately OO users [**] Why only in important passages? Because I can think of to do this work for de. There must be, however, always be a full translation, I lack the time to do so. See my current translation (still in progress): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335 Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: CMS Build Down?
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I got the e-mail from infra a few days ago and did it ( https://id.apache.org/). I was logged in to the CMS when I made the commits, not in anonymous mode. So I just tried the CMS and I'm getting an error message when trying to View Staging Build It goes to http://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging and displays a Problem loading page error. Is that what you get? -Rob On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if anyone can help me before I email infra, I pushed a fix for the homepage so that Ad Blocker Plus doesn't accidentally filter our static non intrusive share buttons. Did you reset your LDAP password (used by Subversion) for Heartbleed? If not, see this note: https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/heartbleed_fallout_for_apache Regards, -Rob I did a fast commit. Then I couldn't get it to push the changes into Prod. (6 characters diff) If this helps. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, its been a while. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=r1587761 https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/wc/browse/smansour-VDFT0M/trunk/content/index.html Samer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: CMS Build Down?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I got the e-mail from infra a few days ago and did it ( https://id.apache.org/). I was logged in to the CMS when I made the commits, not in anonymous mode. So I just tried the CMS and I'm getting an error message when trying to View Staging Build It goes to http://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging and displays a Problem loading page error. To be more precise, the specific message is Unable to connect Is that what you get? -Rob On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if anyone can help me before I email infra, I pushed a fix for the homepage so that Ad Blocker Plus doesn't accidentally filter our static non intrusive share buttons. Did you reset your LDAP password (used by Subversion) for Heartbleed? If not, see this note: https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/heartbleed_fallout_for_apache Regards, -Rob I did a fast commit. Then I couldn't get it to push the changes into Prod. (6 characters diff) If this helps. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, its been a while. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=r1587761 https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/wc/browse/smansour-VDFT0M/trunk/content/index.html Samer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reminder: Make sure you are included in our AOO 4.1 credits page
The Help/About box of OpenOffice has a link to this credits page: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html We link to that page from our website and mention it in release announcements. That page links to this wiki page for a list of our volunteers: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers If you are a newer volunteer you might not have an entry there yet. If so, please add one. If you already have an entry, please review and update if needed. Note: This is not just for programmers. Everyone who contributed is encouraged to add their name. This includes QA, beta testers, translators, those helping answer user questions, writing documentation, admin work on our web sites and services, etc. Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: ping
We play to a score of 11, yes? -Rob On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Fabrizio Bury fabriziob...@gmail.com wrote: pong 2014-04-05 18:17 GMT+02:00 simon peter Neves Pedro simonpeter.nevespe...@gmail.com: pong On 5 April 2014 01:45, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: ping -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Simon Peter Neves Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Meet-up Calender and Map (Was: Re: Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan)
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:30 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Thanks Andrea, On 2014/03/16 19:40, Andrea Pescetti said: On 14/03/2014 imacat wrote: We are holding the Document Freedom Day 2014 at Taiwan, on 2014/3/26(Wed). Thanks for sharing. Indeed, there will be multiple events and campaigns linked to the Document Freedom Day http://documentfreedom.org so it would make sense to put on our homepage a special logo for that week (at least 26-29 March). Do we have one? You mean like this? Sorry I'm not good at graphing. You are welcome to improve from mine. https://people.apache.org/~imacat/dfd2014/dfd2014-aoo.png https://people.apache.org/~imacat/dfd2014/dfd2014.png I'm also thinking that, if we have a event calendar (and an event map), we could share our local events on the calendar so that everyone can join the local meet-up whenever she travel to somewhere. This idea came from the Python community, where they have a meet-up event calendar so that We have an events page here: http://openoffice.apache.org/events.html -Rob http://python.meetup.com/ I shall forward this to marketing@. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: ByWord and Writer Pro
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'm evaluating several editors for OS X and iOS that manage (or claim to support) Markdown. Few of those honour ODT, and I want them to. Does anyone here have direct experience (you use it or have used it or know someone who does) with Byword*, Writer Pro** (costlier version of IA Write)? This could be an interesting discussion… Both Byword and Writer Pro have branded versions that work on iOS 7, but the more interesting feature is Markdown, which I rather like and which is gaining traction at an amazing pace. Sorry, I'm not a Mac person. But I think conversion from Markdown to ODF format should be an easy task. It would be comparable to conversion from Wikitext to ODF, and we know that is possible, e.g., the MediaWiki extension that does this. (Neither is overwhelmingly popular and neither is actually suited for enterprise use. They are, like Scrivener (a rather nice app.) aimed squarely at the individual writer. However, as I started my career (think of it as a plunge) in ICT fresh from grad school working as a copywriter, the individual writer target can be expansive. Most text we read is composed not by clever chimps.) Thanks Louis * http://bywordapp.com/ ** http://writer.pro/ PS I'm not sure if AOO has a current macro of equiv. for Markdown. (LO does not seem to, either: http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/7210.) One can use Pandoc for just about any output, in this case, CSS, and then convert to Markdown. But my guess is that there be easier ways. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About International Mother Language Day
Great. Here is Khan's draft along with some information on AOO language support: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=international_mother_language_day_2014 If there are any corrections please get them ASAP. I'd like to go live with in 4 hours or so. -Rob On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam kman...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my blog draft:On International Mother Language Day the UN's Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) and UN agencies participate in events that promote linguistic and cultural diversity. They also encourage people to maintain their knowledge of their mother language while learning and using more than one language. Governments and non-governmental organizations may use the day to announce policies to encourage language learning and support. You can visit http://www.internationalmotherlanguageday.com/ to know about worldwide #IMLD events. The Apache OpenOffice project is proud to help commemorate International Mother Language Day on February 21. Read more about why this day is important, how OpenOffice supports linguistic diversity, and how you can help.Why February 21 was chosen? February 21st was declared as International Mother Language Dayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mother_Language_Day(IMLD) by UNESCO. IMLD originated as the international recognition of Language Movement Day, which has been commemorated in Bangladesh (formerly East Pakistan) since 1952, when a number of Dhaka university students were killed by the Pakistani police and army in Dhaka during the Bengali Language Movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Language_Movement. This is the only event where people gave their lives to preserve the independence of using their mother language. To remember them there is a monument named Language Martyr's Monument (Shahid Minar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaheed_Minar,_Dhaka) in Dhaka University, Bangladesh. Every year more than a million people give flowers there. This is a big event in Bangladesh. Many foreigners visit Bangladesh just to experience the way the Bangladeshi people give respect to those brave hearts. Every town of Bangladesh has a Language Martyr's Monument, where local people give flowers. A Language Martyr's Monument is also built in Ikebukoro park of Tokyo, Japan. There are also Language Martyr's Monument in USA, UK, Italy and many other countries. Please think about your Mother Language not only on February 21 but also on other days. With Best Regards, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 17/02/2014 Khan Md. Anwarus Salam wrote: Like last year, I can write a blog post about IMLD and the history behind it. We are now very close to the deadline, so if you can write something we can look into publishing it, even though I'm not sure whether there will be enough time to complete it with some information about the OpenOffice language support. If someone can help with that, we could have a nice post. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Some Clarification
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Tarak Das ta...@jiwan.com wrote: Dear Marketing Team, We want to purchase open office org. But we wanted to know that whether it is support any email clients or MS Outlook please let me know. Your earliest response will be highly appreciated. Hello Tarak, Apache OpenOffice is open source software. It is free. There is no need to purchase it. On Windows, OpenOffice works with email clients that support the MAPI interface. This would include Microsoft Outlook. You can find more details on our website if you search for MAPI. Regards, -Rob Best Regards, Tarak Das Jiwanram Sheoduttrai - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Update on Website Satisfaction Survey
So far we have 633 completed surveys, of which 514 (81%) consented to sharing their detailed results. Since the survey ran over the holidays, I'm sure it was missed by many users. Maybe worth running for a bit longer, to get more results? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Update on Website Satisfaction Survey
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Alphonso Whitfield III awhitfi...@vital-inet.com wrote: Please send the link to the survey , as I would have responded had I seen it. Thanks. Here it is: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/522696/lang-en Thanks! -Rob Plan Your Work and Work Your Plan with The Vital Portal Alphonso Whitfield i...@thevitalportal.com Vital 912-816-2595 Skype: vital.i.net Visit us at: The Vital Portal The Vital Portal On facebook Visit our Google Community Join our Vital Portal Webinars at: The Vital Portal WebEx Meeting Center . - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:04:37 AM Subject: Update on Website Satisfaction Survey So far we have 633 completed surveys, of which 514 (81%) consented to sharing their detailed results. Since the survey ran over the holidays, I'm sure it was missed by many users. Maybe worth running for a bit longer, to get more results? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Proposed: Website Satisfaction Survey
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Google has a new service that makes it easy to add a website satisfaction survey to a website. The free version has 4 questions that are asked of 500 random website visitors each month. We would be given results on a monthly basis. (They also have a paid version of this service where you can customize the questions, but I think the free version is fine for our use). After further discussion on the marketing mailing list we've decided to not use Google for the survey but to use our LimeSurvey instance to conduct our own website satisfaction survey. You are invited to respond to the survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/522696/lang-en Consider this to be a small-scale beta test of the survey. We may refine the questions based on this initial trial. I hope a future iteration of the survey will be linked to from the www.openoffice.org website where we can use it to get ongoing feedback. Regards, -Rob The questions are: I. Overall, how satisfied are you with this website? 1) Very satisfied 2) Somewhat satisfied 3) Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied 4) Somewhat dissatisfied 5) Very dissatisfied II. What, if anything, do you find frustrating or unappealing about this website? III. What is your main reason for visiting this website today? IV. Did you successfully complete your main reason for visiting this website today? 1) Yes, I was successful 2) I'm still completing my reason for visiting 3) No, I tried but wasn't successful You can see an example of what the survey looks like here: http://www.google.com/insights/consumersurveys/websat_example Adding it to the website is easy: a single line added to the header. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: proposed user survey for AAO website
Here is a draft of the survey set up in LimeSurvey: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/survey/index/sid/522696/newtest/Y/lang/en Let's double check the question wording, the choices, etc. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: proposed user survey for AAO website
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice and thanks . Looks like a duplicate question is on the site currently Good catch. I had I found the various functions in this website were well integrated. twice. The second one should have been: I thought there was too much inconsistency in this website. I'll fix that now. -Rob On Dec 16, 2013 10:22 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Here is a draft of the survey set up in LimeSurvey: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/survey/index/sid/522696/newtest/Y/lang/en Let's double check the question wording, the choices, etc. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: proposed user survey for AAO website
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Gregory Zobel zob...@wou.edu wrote: What will our working procedure be using this survey and moving forward? Several potentials came up, so I wanted to confirm where how this survey would be deployed. Just my opinion, but I think the value will be in the responses and how they vary over time. I'd like to have something that we can reuse and repeat, say on a quarterly basis. Presumably we'll take action based on the survey results, using the info to focus on particular areas for improvement. Future repetitions of the survey will help us measure our progress. Given that we have a few ways of reaching out to users: 1) A prominent link on our website 2) Our mailing lists 3) Our social media accounts (Facebook, Twitter, etc.) 4) Our project blog Often we will coordinate and use all four mechanisms. It really depends on how much feedback we want. But I'm not sure 5000 results will tell us more than 1000. Some options: 1. Conduct the survey as we're building it with email list serve (10,000 name list from what I think Rob said). 2. Start analyzing results 3. Refine/simplify a shorter, simpler version for website 4. Deploy on website We know that 80% of website visitors are 1st time visitors. So deploying on the website will be targeting a different group than contacting existing OpenOffice users via their existing connections with out, mailing lists, etc. Not that surveying new visitors is bad. In fact that might be exactly what we want to focus on. But I think we'll run into trouble if we compare a mailing list survey to a survey on the website. OR 1. Conduct survey online at website only 2. start analyzing results 3. revise survey for next year OR 1. Conduct survey online and through email 2. analyze results 3. revise survey for next year Other suggestions? If the idea is to beta test the survey, by the quickest means that will give us a lot of results, then I'd go with the announcement mailing list, coupled with some social media posts. This can be done in a matter of minutes. We could then run the survey for a few days, get a few hundred to a thousand responses and refine the questions based on that. When we are ready with the refined survey I'd probably focus on putting it on the website. That will get new users and repeat visitors in their actual proportions, which is what we really want, I think. Regards, -Rob Best, gz On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi Gregory, Gregory Zobel schrieb: Regina, You raise important points: [..] WORD CHOICE *Entrepreneur* In terms of entrepreneur, would business person or self-employed or small business owner be better? self-employed and small business owner are both better to understand than Entreoreneur. business person includes staff and is less suitable. *Industry* Rather than industry, what would work better: profession? Field? For me (native German) both profession and Field sounds better than Industry. And another word: I understand Government as minister. Do you mean public administration? I have a couple of additional comments re: formatting.: First, having all the text centered makes it difficult to read (for me at least). For me too. Second, it would be nice to have line breaks between the paragraphs. In addition Typo projet on first page. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- --- Gregory B. Zobel, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Educational Technology MSEd Program Coordinator Western Oregon University 345 N. Monmouth Ave Monmouth, OR 97361 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: proposed user survey for AAO website
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Gregory Zobel zob...@wou.edu wrote: Hi Rob, The purpose of some of the text was to provide some framing explanation. I have removed that text from this iteration and included the suggested changes. I think it might be wise to run this first with the mailing list members that you mentioned. That way we could get results from regular users. Based on their responses, we could then hone down and improve the survey for use with new visitors. Best, gz = Here's the revised version: Proposed Core SUS Usability Questions to Evaluate User Experience with the Apache Open Office Website [Draft] INTRO framing text: [I don’t know enough about AOO to write this bit up] I can draft this part. Questions Part 1 I think that I would like to use this website frequently. I found the website unnecessarily complex. I thought the website was easy to use. I think that I would need the support of a technical person to be able to use this website. I found the various functions in this website were well integrated. I thought there was too much inconsistency in this website. I would imagine that most people would learn to use this website very quickly. I found the website very cumbersome to use. I felt very confident using the website. I needed to learn a lot of things before I could get going with this website. Response options: 1 Strongly Disagree to 5 Strongly Agree Part 2 What was the purpose of your visit today? Learn about Apache OpenOffice Download Apache OpenOffice Solve a problem with OpenOffice Learn more about the OpenOffice open source community Other (please describe) x user fills in their own response This one may or may not end up in the survey. If we put a link to the survey in the website header, then it would be a good question, since the person is visiting the website for a particular purpose. But if we send the survey link out to the mailing list then the question doesn't really have that kind of use context. What do you like most about the Apache Open Office website? The forums The online manuals ...add a couple more x user fills in their own response What frustrates you most about the Apache Open Office website? Navigation The help manuals ...add a couple more x user fills in their own response We already have detailed information on what pages users visit most, how much time is spent on pages, what the landing pages are, what the exist pages are, etc. This is from Google Analytics. So maybe we should focus the like most and frustrates items on higher level qualities (ease of navigation, speed, etc.) rather than particular content areas like help manuals? Or maybe we want both? If there was one thing you could add to the Apache Open Office website, what would it be? ...add a couple more x user fills in their own response Thank you for providing your responses and your feedback. Your responses will help us make AOO a better and stronger community. If you are willing, we would appreciate a bit more information about you, your computing preferences, and how you use AOO. Demographic Questions Gender: F M prefer to not answer Age range: 18-22 23-30 31-35 36-40 41-45 46-50 51-55 56-60 61-70 70+ prefer to not answer May need under 18 or 13-18 as well. Operating system: Windows Mac Linux Other prefer to not answer Browser: Firefox Chrome Safari IE Other prefer to not answer Version of Open Office: prefer to not answer Industry in which you work: Government Education Industry Entrepreneur Creative prefer to not answer Where you are located (continent? country?) dropdown menu of options? prefer to not answer Language in which you use AOO? dropdown menu of options? prefer to not answer Again, thank you for sharing your time, thoughts and responses. As you know, AOO is as committed to open source as we are to privacy. We are also interested in being as transparent with our growth, processes, and data as possible. With your permission, we would like to publish and share your responses with our community. We won’t share it without your permission. To remain anonymous and not share your data, you don’t need to do anything else. But if you are willing to share your responses, please tick the box below. Sharing Data Checkbox I agree to share my data/responses. [And whatever legalese is needed.] This looks good. I will draft a survey in LimeSurvey and send a link to the list so we can review and fine tune. Regards, -Rob On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Gregory Zobel zob...@wou.edu wrote: Hi Folks, Based on some comments and a short exchange on the dev list, I've developed a rough draft for a UX survey. The goal is to solicit user feedback about how usable the AAO site is. To help frame the results and grasp who the users
Re: AOO Distribution Policy
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 09/12/2013 Larry Sadler wrote: In response to the Call for Comments ... Distributor Best Practices, I suggest a clause pointing out that AOO is governed by the [appropriate] licence agreement and subject to legal remedies under that licence for misuse such as charging to the software . I would like to add to the guidelines that all approved distributors must include a notice where appropriate (site footer, for example; or a more visible place; this can be discussed) saying that Apache OpenOffice can be downloaded for free from the official site http://www.openoffice.org Something interesting I saw on another program that gave me an idea. The other program had this text on the first page of the install wizard: Beware of online scams! A number of websites have taken our free Foo client and attempt to charge money for it through some sort of fee or subscription or they install it for free but infect your computer with malicious code in the process. To protect yourself, be sure to only download our software from http://foo.com. You should NEVER under any circumstances pay for Foo software. I don't think we can say exactly the same thing, but I like the idea of having such a warning in the install. There is nothing to prevent a 3rd party from rebuilding the install without that message, of course, but most do not have even that skill. This should be obvious but in some cases it might happen that a distributor shows up first when a user searches get OpenOffice and the user should always be informed that he can simply download it from our site. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: proposed user survey for AAO website
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Gregory Zobel zob...@wou.edu wrote: Hi Folks, Based on some comments and a short exchange on the dev list, I've developed a rough draft for a UX survey. The goal is to solicit user feedback about how usable the AAO site is. To help frame the results and grasp who the users are, several qualitative and demographic questions are included. I'm brand new to the AOO community, so I apologize if I've overlooked something obvious. Below is the proposed survey. I have brief explanatory comments between each small set of questions. I do hope this is useful or provides a viable foundation for a future UX review. Best, gz *** *** Proposed Core SUS Usability Questions to Evaluate User Experience with the Apache Open Office Website [Draft] The purpose of this text is to: propose a body of questions for use in a usability test of the AOO site; provide support and explanation for these questions; identify important issues to help us frame the data. To measure user experience and user response to the AOO website, it is important to use reliable tools to gather data. Fortunately, a variety of such tools exist. One optimal tool is the System Usability Scale which John Brooke released in 1986. I assume the above is background info for us, and we'd have a different prologue text for the respondent to read in the actual survey? The SUS is a 10 item questionnaire with 5 response options. SUS Questions I think that I would like to use this system frequently. I found the system unnecessarily complex. I thought the system was easy to use. I think that I would need the support of a technical person to be able to use this system. I found the various functions in this system were well integrated. I thought there was too much inconsistency in this system. I would imagine that most people would learn to use this system very quickly. I found the system very cumbersome to use. I felt very confident using the system. I needed to learn a lot of things before I could get going with this system. Response options: 1 Strongly Disagree to 5 Strongly Agree Is it important to use this language exactly? Or can we replace this system with this website? The risk of this system is some fraction of the users may misinterpret the questions as being a survey about the OpenOffice product or even about their Browser! If we can be explicit it would help, I think. source: http://www.measuringusability.com/sus.php [A number of other sources can be references, and SUS is an industry standard.] SUS Strengths: The system is tested and is reliable. The data produced is pretty clean, and there are numerous parties able to analyze and evaluate the data. The brevity is useful for users because it does not take too much of their time. It takes far less time to identify, code, and gather Likert-type response than open-ended questions. SUS Weaknesses: Results produced only enable system-wide results, i.e. it does not help identify specific or local problems. Results are strictly numerical. Users are not able to give voice to their own opinions or share accurate or useful insights--user can only click a box. Proposed Addition to SUS: In addition to the SUS scale, I propose having four or five additional qualitative questions which allow users to give more rich, personalized, specific, or custom feedback. This can be useful in terms of identifying specific problems, demonstrating interest in users’ opinions, and identifying gaps that those in the AOO culture are too close to to identify. These kinds of questions, however, can generate huge volumes of responses. And often they are different. Evaluating and coding this information can drive you nuts. One way to address this potential problem is to frame the open-ended questions and then provide tick boxes for the three or five most common responses. Two things that LimeSurvey will collect for us automatically: 1) The IP address of the respondent. I think we just use this to check for abusive multiple submissions and then discard. 2) The time it took to respond to the survey, in seconds. Not sure how useful this information is, but there might be some lower threshold beneath which we might suspect the survey was not actually read. 2) The referrer page that lead them to the survey. This might be quite useful. We have the ability to add a link to the survey on every page of the website, by modifying the template. But a general concern: We know from Google Analytics that around 80% of visits are from users visiting the website for the first time. The remaining 20% are repeat visitors. For first-time visitors when do they take the survey? If they see a survey link and respond to it when they first see it (say the home page) then they are responding based on a very limited experience with the website, perhaps only visiting one page. Of
Re: Proposed: Website Satisfaction Survey
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Alphonso Whitfield III awhitfi...@vital-inet.com wrote: I will send a sample form and if approved will the donate form and code. You can embed and use. I need some idea about usage so that I can accommodate the number of reports that will be generated. Unfortunately the thread seemed to spawn off onto a dev list conservation that was not cc'ed to the marketing list. So the current conversation is now talking about using LimeSurvey, which we used for the logo competition a few months ago. -Rob Plan Your Work and Work Your Plan with The Vital Portal Alphonso Whitfield i...@thevitalportal.com Vital 912-816-2595 Skype: vital.i.net Visit us at: The Vital Portal The Vital Portal On facebook Visit our Google Community Join our Vital Portal Webinars at: The Vital Portal WebEx Meeting Center . - Original Message - From: mt m...@lockedbags.org To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:17:11 PM Subject: Re: Proposed: Website Satisfaction Survey Great. Another brilliant Google idea we really did NOT need! :-) Sadly, I'm expecting the same sort of widespread success as so-called social media. Tons of rubbish to sort through, with very little hope to find anything that is minimally useful or worth the time I had to waste. Sorry for the rant - it's probably inappropriate for this mailing list. But can you imagine what this is going to turn into, not very far down the line? With the (way too many) people who have too much time on their hands and no ethics to go with it? And what about scammers? Wouldn't they jump on the opportunity to develop ways to automate satisfaction reports of no value whatsoever?? Of course Google will always benefit. No doubt about that... But will we, as ordinary people, or we as software developers or promoters?? I doubt it. But thank you for letting us know! marina OO on a MacBook Pro, 10.6.8 On 11/12/13 at 5:24 AM, robw...@apache.org (Rob Weir) wrote: Google has a new service that makes it easy to add a website satisfaction survey to a website. The free version has 4 questions that are asked of 500 random website visitors each month. We would be given results on a monthly basis. (They also have a paid version of this service where you can customize the questions, but I think the free version is fine for our use). The questions are: I. Overall, how satisfied are you with this website? 1) Very satisfied 2) Somewhat satisfied 3) Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied 4) Somewhat dissatisfied 5) Very dissatisfied II. What, if anything, do you find frustrating or unappealing about this website? III. What is your main reason for visiting this website today? IV. Did you successfully complete your main reason for visiting this website today? 1) Yes, I was successful 2) I'm still completing my reason for visiting 3) No, I tried but wasn't successful You can see an example of what the survey looks like here: http://www.google.com/insights/consumersurveys/websat_example Adding it to the website is easy: a single line added to the header. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Call for Comments: Apache OpenOffice Distributor Best Practices
Details are here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_comments_apache_openoffice Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DRAFT] OpenOffice fundraising page
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty awesome. Thanks. I have a link to it from the announcement at the top of each page. But that is just temporary. There is a permanent link at the bottom of the page, in the footer, but I don't think that will be seen by many users. I wonder whether it would make sense to include it in the design of the home page, another one of the I want to ... choices? If so we would need an appropriate image. Not sure what that would be though. I see that many causes have a social networking aspect to donations as well. See this query for example: https://twitter.com/search?q=I%27ve%20donatedsrc=typd That kind of personal recommendation could be useful. Regards, -Rob On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 12/4/13 12:53 AM, Rob Weir wrote: A while back I mentioned that I was interested in putting up a donation page targeted toward end users of OpenOffice. I wanted to take a subset of of the material from the ASF pages [1] [2], strip out the stuff related to corporate donations, and put a new page in a place where OpenOffice users would be more likely to see it. You cans see a draft of this page here: http://www.openoffice.org/donations.html Please send along any corrections, concerns, etc. I'd like to go live with this later this week, in time to benefit from the end of year/holiday giving spirit. Also, if you think you can do much better, in terms of the text, the pitch, the look, the layout, etc., then we can set up multiple versions of this page, and do A/B testing to see which version performs best with real users. If you want to send me an alternative version, you can base it on the source from my version [3]. I am fine with this, it reads well and give all the needed information. The headline Volunteer Opportunities with the Apache OpenOffice Project overlap the underlying when you resize the page (small devices). It's a minor issue but maybe we can shorten the sentence. Juergen [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/donations.html Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
80 million downloads
Yesterday we reached 80,072,389 downloads. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: FW: testimonials page
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:35 PM, V Barnett bidnes...@hotmail.com wrote: sorry, forgot to include rob and marketing on my reply. vb From: bidnes...@hotmail.com To: samer...@gmail.com Subject: RE: testimonials page Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:33:25 -0800 Hi Samer and Rob, you have made a very good point...I have since seen reviews elsewhere, and I understand now why the page was such a surprise to me. Why not add links to the other pages mentioned that contain current user reviews if you decide not to delete the testimonials page, with an explanation such as listed below. I'd updated the website to point to the larger external review sites: http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/testimonials.html Regards, -Rob thanks so much for replyingyour expertise is much appreciated! I can't wait to try the tools. MSO and O-365 are driving me crazy. I miss XP's simple, effective UI for one thingsigh. VB Lum bidnes...@hotmail.com vbarnett Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:09:39 -0500 Subject: Re: testimonials page From: samer...@gmail.com To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org CC: bidnes...@hotmail.com SourceForge, amazon, CNET and other services allow users to leave reviews on their own. For now I would scrap that page as its not sustainable to compete with review tools readily available with 3rd party websites. Samer On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:40 PM, V Barnett bidnes...@hotmail.com wrote: hello, fyi your testimonials page is 9 years out of date. the latest ones are from 2004...this does NOT inspire confidence in your products. Please fix this. I want to recommend you but can’t with this kind of neglect, really. thank you vb lum We actually do track carefully which pages on the websites are heavily visited and keep these pages up to date. It looks like this particular page has not been updated in 9 years. We've had 100's of millions of downloads in that time, 75 million in just the last 18 months. I don't think we link to this page in any prominent way. Google Analytics reports only 48 visits to that page in the last month. (The entire website gets around 20 million page views/month). So given these facts I don't think this page has any impact at all on user confidence in the product. So what to do? 1) Do nothing? 2) Delete the page? 3) Update the page? I'm not sure user testimonials are particularly useful for to have. Magazine reviews, awards, etc., have more value than an endorsement from an unfamiliar name. We do a good job on the awards page, for example. But I won't argue against anyone who thinks otherwise and wants to update that page, but my inclination is to simply delete it. Regards, -Rob http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/testimonials.html Testimonials 2004 2003 2002 2001 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: testimonials page
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:09 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: SourceForge, amazon, CNET and other services allow users to leave reviews on their own. That's a good point. So I wonder if one solution is to keep a page at /about_us/testimonials.html but instead of cherry picking our own user reviews we just link to the SF, Amazon, etc., review pages? -Rob For now I would scrap that page as its not sustainable to compete with review tools readily available with 3rd party websites. Samer On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:40 PM, V Barnett bidnes...@hotmail.com wrote: hello, fyi your testimonials page is 9 years out of date. the latest ones are from 2004...this does NOT inspire confidence in your products. Please fix this. I want to recommend you but can’t with this kind of neglect, really. thank you vb lum We actually do track carefully which pages on the websites are heavily visited and keep these pages up to date. It looks like this particular page has not been updated in 9 years. We've had 100's of millions of downloads in that time, 75 million in just the last 18 months. I don't think we link to this page in any prominent way. Google Analytics reports only 48 visits to that page in the last month. (The entire website gets around 20 million page views/month). So given these facts I don't think this page has any impact at all on user confidence in the product. So what to do? 1) Do nothing? 2) Delete the page? 3) Update the page? I'm not sure user testimonials are particularly useful for to have. Magazine reviews, awards, etc., have more value than an endorsement from an unfamiliar name. We do a good job on the awards page, for example. But I won't argue against anyone who thinks otherwise and wants to update that page, but my inclination is to simply delete it. Regards, -Rob http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/testimonials.html Testimonials 2004 2003 2002 2001 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: testimonials page
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:40 PM, V Barnett bidnes...@hotmail.com wrote: hello, fyi your testimonials page is 9 years out of date. the latest ones are from 2004...this does NOT inspire confidence in your products. Please fix this. I want to recommend you but can’t with this kind of neglect, really. thank you vb lum We actually do track carefully which pages on the websites are heavily visited and keep these pages up to date. It looks like this particular page has not been updated in 9 years. We've had 100's of millions of downloads in that time, 75 million in just the last 18 months. I don't think we link to this page in any prominent way. Google Analytics reports only 48 visits to that page in the last month. (The entire website gets around 20 million page views/month). So given these facts I don't think this page has any impact at all on user confidence in the product. So what to do? 1) Do nothing? 2) Delete the page? 3) Update the page? I'm not sure user testimonials are particularly useful for to have. Magazine reviews, awards, etc., have more value than an endorsement from an unfamiliar name. We do a good job on the awards page, for example. But I won't argue against anyone who thinks otherwise and wants to update that page, but my inclination is to simply delete it. Regards, -Rob http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/testimonials.html Testimonials 2004 2003 2002 2001 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Distribution of Openoffice soft in Russis
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Александр adrahovsk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Openoffice, Unfortunatelly, I haven't got any respond yet. Hello Alex, I don't see any previous note from you. What are you asking about? -Rob Can my offer be at least appropriate for you? How can I know this? Still waitnig for your answer, Best regards, Alex Adrahovsky, Development Department Manager Netbox http://netbox.ru/ Tel.: +7 (495) 799-31-45 Skype: adrahovsky - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Follow-up request to place cost-free advertisement for OpenOfiice/apache.org on stiltedstories.com
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:02 AM, stiltedstories stil...@stiltedstories.com wrote: Dear OpenOffice/apache.org, This e-mail is just a follow-up to remind you that I am interested in placing a cost-free, no surprises or small-print, advertisement for OpenOffice/apache.org, with the link http://openoffice.apache.org/; or http://www.openoffice.org/;, at the base of one of the pages on my website www.stiltedstories.com. My website is a not-for-profit venture, and is a place to air the new work of, and a resources link for, amateur authors. Hi Daniel, In general you don't require any special permission to link to our website, especially with a text-only link. We also have a get it here logo which is designed for 3rd parties who wish to help promote OpenOffice: http://openoffice.apache.org/get-it-here.html Logo usage beyond the get it here logo would require specific permission from us. Regards, -Rob Any doubts or reservations you may have can be clarified by checking the about page on the web, or you can ask me anything you like via one of the contact methods at the end of this e-mail. I would love to advertise your web as OpenOffice is a truly marvellous product, and you have clearly gone to some effort to put it together well, and I simply want to promote it and make it known to people who may not be aware of its existance. Many thanks for your time, please do get back to me on this matter if you are able. Best regards, Daniel - - - - - - - - - - - - www.stiltedstories.com stil...@stiltedstories.com stiltedstor...@gmail.com (+34) 662079095 (+44) 07583 025030 - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Starting Intro to Marketing Module
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Mohamed Akram Wazeer akram_waz...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I am Akram from Sri Lanka, i would like to volunteer for the Marketing of OpenOffice, how can i contribute ? Hello Akram and welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project! Some of our marketing efforts are global, generally in English. But we also have country-specific marketing efforts. For example, those in the German-language community create brochures describing OpenOffice in German, and attend local open source conferences. We have a Tamil translation of Apache OpenOffice, due to the volunteer efforts of Mr. V.Kadal Amutham (cc'ed). But we only have a partial Sinhala translation. I assume that the best marketing for a product in Sri Lanka would be to have a product that supported Sinhala as well as Tamil and English? Regards, -Rob On Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Hello Michele welcome to the marketing list, please let us know if you have any questions regarding the way we work and what you can do for the project. Regards On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Michele Martin michel...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi My name is Michele Martin, I am currently a senior in the Business Program at University of Washington, concentrating on Marketing and Technology Information Management. I would love to donate some time to OpenOffice. Currently I am taking 3 marketing classes this quarter so anything I can help with, please just let me know. Have a good day! Michele Martin michel...@hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
We'll reach 75 million AOO downloads next week
As of yesterday the count is 74,292,909. We should hit 75 million early next week. When we hit 50 million, back in May, we published this blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_one_year_50 I'll aim to update the charts with the current data, for a new blog post. Any other ideas? Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Some web pages that need some marketing attention
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I started with some of the images. https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/wc/browse/smansour-kIuikt/trunk/content/product/pix/writer-big.png https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/wc/browse/smansour-kIuikt/trunk/content/images/action-info.png etc. I did a quick commit because I logged into the CMS with my Apache ID. Not used to commiting yet so if I did something wrong let me know. Do I need to click publish as well? With the CMS web interface you make the change, then commit, then view staging build to see if the website built without errors, then view the staged copy, then publish. -Rob Index: cgi-bin===--- cgi-bin (.../production/ooo-site) (revision 883154)+++ cgi-bin (.../staging/ooo-site/trunk)(revision 883154) Property changes on: cgi-bin ___ Modified: cms:source-revision ## -1 +1 ##-154+1533505 \ No newline at end of propertyIndex: content/images/aoo-logo-100x100.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = image/pngIndex: content/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = image/jpegIndex: content/images/action-info.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = application/octet-streamIndex: content/product/pix/writer.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = application/octet-streamIndex: content/product/pix/calc-big.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = application/octet-streamIndex: content/product/pix/impress-big.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = application/octet-streamIndex: content/product/pix/calc.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = application/octet-streamIndex: content/product/pix/impress.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = application/octet-streamIndex: content/product/pix/writer-big.png=== Cannot display: file marked as a binary type. svn:mime-type = application/octet-streamIndex: content===--- content (.../production/ooo-site) (revision 883154)+++ content (.../staging/ooo-site/trunk)(revision 883154) Property changes on: content ___ Modified: cms:source-revision ## -1 +1 ##-154+1533505 \ No newline at end of propertyIndex: .===--- . (.../production/ooo-site) (revision 883154)+++ . (.../staging/ooo-site/trunk)(revision 883154) Property changes on: . ___ Modified: cms:source-revision ## -1 +1 ##-1292552+1294858 \ No newline at end of property Samer On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I was looking at usage data for the website, specifically the conversion rate for new visitors by landing pages that received more than 10,000 visits in the past month. Let me explain: -- New visitors, as visitors coming to the openoffice.org website for the first time -- Conversion rate is the % of visitors to the website that actually download OpenOffice. The overall conversion rate for all new visitors is 30.81% for past 30 days. -- The landing page is the URL of the first page they visit on our website. Only 18% of website visitors go to the home page first. The rest either end up with a native language page, or at a deeper page, often referred to them by another website or by a Google search. What I've seen in the past is that a well-written and good looking landing page will have a high conversion rate. For example, the French and Japanese native language home pages have a conversion rate of over 50%: http://www.openoffice.org/fr/ http://www.openoffice.org/ja/ Note that neither of these are particularly fancy. Half the battle is not giving any negative signals to the user, like outdated text, bad links, poor formatting, anything that suggests they are at some rogue website run by hackers. So the poorly performing pages are: http://www.openoffice.org/pl/index.html (6.42% conversion
Some web pages that need some marketing attention
I was looking at usage data for the website, specifically the conversion rate for new visitors by landing pages that received more than 10,000 visits in the past month. Let me explain: -- New visitors, as visitors coming to the openoffice.org website for the first time -- Conversion rate is the % of visitors to the website that actually download OpenOffice. The overall conversion rate for all new visitors is 30.81% for past 30 days. -- The landing page is the URL of the first page they visit on our website. Only 18% of website visitors go to the home page first. The rest either end up with a native language page, or at a deeper page, often referred to them by another website or by a Google search. What I've seen in the past is that a well-written and good looking landing page will have a high conversion rate. For example, the French and Japanese native language home pages have a conversion rate of over 50%: http://www.openoffice.org/fr/ http://www.openoffice.org/ja/ Note that neither of these are particularly fancy. Half the battle is not giving any negative signals to the user, like outdated text, bad links, poor formatting, anything that suggests they are at some rogue website run by hackers. So the poorly performing pages are: http://www.openoffice.org/pl/index.html (6.42% conversion rate) http://www.openoffice.org/pl/product.download.html (2.75% conversion rate) Here the design looks off, with outdated logos, a download button takes visitor to a page with misaligned folder, pointing to old 3.4.1 release. http://www.openoffice.org/legacy/thankyou.html (0.81% conversion rate) http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/registration20.html (0.93% conversion rate) These two pages are loaded by old versions of OpenOffice.org after installing the product. Combined we get nearly 60,000 visitors per month to these pages. But the conversion rate is horrible. I just did a quick update today to update the version numbers. (They were referring to 3.4.1 as the most recent). But I wonder if we might want to rethink the approach here. The user just downloaded and installed an older version of OpenOffice. What would motivate them to update? Asking them immediately to download again? Or should we take a softer approach and focus on getting them introduced to the support forum, or to sign up for our Facebook or Twitter accounts? For any of these pages we have the ability to do A/B testing with content experiments in Google Analytics. We can try out a few variations on the landing pages and measure the conversion rates and see which ones do better. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Facebook Likes Almost Tripled Since February
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Everyone, Awesome realization, I was documenting some changes to our social profiles (screen captures), and since February 8th, 2013 we went from just over 3,500 likes to just under 9,400 likes today. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834928/facebook-account.png https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO If you haven't yet done it, like us on facebook! That six degrees of separation will help us get announcements out on social media like a wild fire! Your friends might like us too. This and similar ideas are on our Quick and Easy marketing activities page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Quick_and_Easy_Activities What Samer says about Facebook is true for our Twitter and Google+ pages as well. -Rob Likes gives us a chance to enter people's news feed (a chance in the flood of other updates, but still a chance). Samer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
69,982,501 downloads of AOO
As of last night we have had 69,982,501 downloads of AOO, across all versions. Sometime today we should hit 70 million. Maybe it happened already! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This projects depends on volunteer efforts. We have many routine tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services. In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the project understand how to do it. For example, moderating the mailing lists. In other areas we might only have a single person who really understands how to do a task. We also have many volunteers, signing up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily basis. There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get started. So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most common tasks in the project: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn. (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache Infra and not listed here. I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by the AOO project) This might also help is identify areas where we are currently dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for holidays, etc. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by Learning Resources -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ??? I was thinking of web resources. So overall the page lists tasks and skills, and also the resources needed to learn how to perform those tasks: web resources and experts/mentors in the project. -Rob Thanks. -- - MzK Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. -- Following the Equator, Mark Twain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reminder: Time to update your entry in the Directory of Volunteers
We'll soon be releasing Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1. We want to give recognition to the many volunteers who contribute to the success of OpenOffice. One way we give credit is in our Directory of Volunteers. We link to this from the Help/About box of the product, as well as in blog posts and release announcements. If you have not already added yourself to the Directory, please do so. Anyone can sign up for a wiki account. The Directory of Volunteers can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
The Names of OpenOffice (How users are finding our website)
And update of data gathered from website visitors. Of the ones who come to our website from a search engine results list (and that is 48% of our total visitors), the top ten search queries, along with a count of recent visitors, are: 1. open office (326,369) 2. openoffice (213,374) 3. openoffice download (32,188) 4. openoffice.org (21,786) 5. オープンオフィス (13,476) 6. open office mac (11,307) 7. apache openoffice (10,576) 8. open office download (8,964) 9. openoffice for mac (7,395) 10. download open office (7,006) Note the strong drop after the first two queries. (And what is #5? Japanese? What does it say?) So what does this all mean? A. Users are not consistent about whether the name is one word or two. Maybe they hear about the name by ear? Or maybe this is just the pull of standard language rules. The noun is office and open is an adjective. It is hard to overcome years of schooling to think of an artificial name like OpenOffice. B. The core name in their mind is OpenOffice/Open Office without the .org or the Apache. This is what they are searching for when they look for us. Now, one might have a theory that uses searching for open office end up on our website by mistake. Maybe they were searching for something else. For example, this term is also used to refer to an office seating plan without walls, where everything is open in a big room. This is also an open office. However, if I look at only search-directed traffic that actually leads to a download of AOO, the query open office and openoffice are also at the very top of the list. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Initial week download numbers?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: It's been a week since we released AOO 4.0 wonder if we can get some numbers drom our Download stats. I send this out yesterday: http://markmail.org/message/2zavrczec7il6sem -Rob I think Rob had a script that make these analytics. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week
We released AOO 4.0 on July 23nd, mid-day UTC. We only have summary data for full days, so the following is really for 6.5 days of AOO 4.0, through July 29th. 1,257,653 total downloads (full installs, not including langpacks). In comparison, the 1st 7 days of AOO 3.4.0 saw around 750K downloads, and the 1st week of AOO 3.4.1 saw 1.1M downloads. So we're seeing some nice growth. In graphical form you can see it here: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html Drilling down a little we see that the downloads were: 85% Windows 13% Mac 2% Linux Of the Linux downloads, 57% were 32-bit, 43% were 64-bit. 49% took the DEB packages, 51% the RPM. The top 10 downloads by language were: en_US 497,089 de 170,089 fr 148,619 it 88,931 ja 76,421 es 68,051 ru 52,756 en_GB 49,560 nl 20,649 pt_BR 18,341 Note also: We're about it hit the 60 million mark for total AOO downloads (all versions) probably by tomorrow. The count stands at 59,739,479 yesterday. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Public uncertainty about the role of Oracle
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, I myself am not directly in the (international) marketing active, but there is a point which, in my opinion, deserves attention: In public, at least in Germany, there are still uncertainties about the legal situation in OpenOfffice. Repeating is always the talk of the OpenOffice still belongs to Oracle. Currently example here: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-Re-LibreOffice-oder-OpenOffice/forum-261571/msg-23871091/read/ It would be good if we take steps to inform the public about these things too, especially about the OenOffice, legally, is 100% Apache. Especially in Germany rumors regarding Oracle hurt us very much, especially in DEutschland LibreOffice is particularly strong because the TDF is based here. Do you think the person saying this is honestly confused? Or is he intentionally spreading FUD? Any press about Oracle and Apache OpenOffice has been about their donation of it to Apache. I don't know how anyone could get any other impression. We can always respond to such posts at say that their information is several years out of date, that OpenOffice is now with the Apache Software Foundation, an non-profit group of open source volunteers, with support from over 30 corporations: Then point them to this page: https://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html Or would it help to have something like this in an FAQ that we can easily point users to? -Rob I demand nothing special that needs to be done immediately, but I think the problem that deserves attention. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Public uncertainty about the role of Oracle
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Do you think the person saying this is honestly confused? Or is he intentionally spreading FUD? Sometimes it probably is FUD, but more often genuine ignorance. Please understand that it deals with an ordinary user, not experts. Any press about Oracle and Apache OpenOffice has been about their donation of it to Apache. I don't know how anyone could get any other impression. I do not know either. Or would it help to have something like this in an FAQ that we can easily point users to? We are going to revise the german FAQ, and clear it there. I know not what else we can do, but I wanted to inform you of the problem. It may be that this problem in the U.S. (or elsewhere) does not exist, but here in Germany it is exist. Possibly. Big American software companies are not seen as evil in the U.S., except when they are spying on us ;-) -Rob Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Applying new logo to social media accounts
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I could try something. Was thinking a dotted line like it bounced into place. With some abstract splash marks around. That might be interesting. Another idea might be to show one of the apps, maybe Calc or Writer. Show full width of the document, but only the window bar, menu, toolbar and a little of the document itself. Maybe just enough to have text saying, Apache OpenOffice -- the Free and Open Productivity Suite or something like that. Another area we need to update are the images we use for social sharing. We use those for Facebook and Google+, linked to files on our website, yes? -Rob I'm starting to update the social media accounts with our new logo. Most are easy -- just use the new flat globe. But Facebook is more complicated. We get the ability to have a cover photo as well as a page profile picture. The profile picture is easy. That is just the globe again, at 160x160 pixels That is what shows next to any of our posts. But the cover photo is larger, 851x315 pixels. It shows at the top of our page. Here's what we do today with these: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO As you can see the cover photo is just a repetition of the full logo. Not very interesting. It looks like there is potential here for something more creative. For ideas look at this article: http://www.prosar.com/inbound_marketing_blog/bid/128705/Edi-Explains-How-to-be-Creative-with-the-New-Facebook-Timeline Google+ has a similar concept, but with a 2120x1192 cover image: So what could we do here? Anyone want to try something? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Two versions in same machine
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org wrote: Can I install AOO an AOO-TA in a same machine, Windows XP? You want English and Tamil version, both? One approach is to install one version normally, and then install the Language Pack for any additional language. You can find the Language Packs here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#lp Regards, -Rob V.Kadal Amutham - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Release communications -- plans
The Release Notes are starting to look very nice. It is worth reviewing if you have not looked recently: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes This is the primary statement of what is in the release. The introductory sections are general enough that this page can be used as a self-contained announcement message. It doesn't require additional context. However, we will have additional announcement statements. 1) There will be a press release. This repeats a subset of the contents of the release nots, but it the format and style that is expected in a press release. Don Harbison took the lead on drafting that. 2) We should also have a brief blog post. Maybe only a paragraph or two and then a link to the Release Notes. I don't want to spend too much time on the blog post since I am almost certain the blog will crash under load. For that reason I'd recommend that we don't promote the blog page via social media, etc., Promote the Release Notes instead. In the past we've translated the blog post. But in this case I'd recommend we focus on translating the Release Notes. 3) A brief announcement to our mailing lists, including the 9000 subscribers of our announcement mailing list. Again, linking back to the Release Notes. 4) Posts to Twitter, Google+, Facebook, etc. This is something where everyone can help spread the news, by sharing, +1'ing, RT'ing,. etc. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
It is time to update your entry in the Directory of Volunteers
Make sure you are included in our Directory of Volunteers and that the information is as you want it to appear: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers This page is linked to (indirectly) from the credits link of the Help/About dialog box in AOO 4.0. It will also be mentioned in release announcements. You can sign up for a wiki account, or send your information directly to me and I will add it for you. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release communications -- plans
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: The Release Notes are starting to look very nice. It is worth reviewing if you have not looked recently: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes This is the primary statement of what is in the release. The introductory sections are general enough that this page can be used as a self-contained announcement message. It doesn't require additional context. However, we will have additional announcement statements. 1) There will be a press release. This repeats a subset of the contents of the release nots, but it the format and style that is expected in a press release. Don Harbison took the lead on drafting that. 2) We should also have a brief blog post. Maybe only a paragraph or two and then a link to the Release Notes. I don't want to spend too much time on the blog post since I am almost certain the blog will crash under load. For that reason I'd recommend that we don't promote the blog page via social media, etc., Promote the Release Notes instead. Draft here: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=a_short_celebration_and_then In the past we've translated the blog post. But in this case I'd recommend we focus on translating the Release Notes. 3) A brief announcement to our mailing lists, including the 9000 subscribers of our announcement mailing list. Again, linking back to the Release Notes. 4) Posts to Twitter, Google+, Facebook, etc. This is something where everyone can help spread the news, by sharing, +1'ing, RT'ing,. etc. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Applying new logo to social media accounts
I'm starting to update the social media accounts with our new logo. Most are easy -- just use the new flat globe. But Facebook is more complicated. We get the ability to have a cover photo as well as a page profile picture. The profile picture is easy. That is just the globe again, at 160x160 pixels That is what shows next to any of our posts. But the cover photo is larger, 851x315 pixels. It shows at the top of our page. Here's what we do today with these: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO As you can see the cover photo is just a repetition of the full logo. Not very interesting. It looks like there is potential here for something more creative. For ideas look at this article: http://www.prosar.com/inbound_marketing_blog/bid/128705/Edi-Explains-How-to-be-Creative-with-the-New-Facebook-Timeline Google+ has a similar concept, but with a 2120x1192 cover image: So what could we do here? Anyone want to try something? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement
As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully completed. The release is approved. However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet. We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done, including: 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution directories 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as much as 24 hours) 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files. 4. Complete the release notes. Convert them to HTML. Give some time for translations. 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage. The above should all be done before we announce. After we announce, we have a few other items to do: 5. Update logos on social media sites 6. Enable update notification server 7. Follow up blog post +1 week. I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on Wednesday, if possible. That would mean that items 1-5 are complete then. Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed. But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready to go. Does this make sense? Am I missing anything? Anyone think that Wed. is not possible? It is better not to make an important announcement at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute the press coverage. We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these items: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
4.0 Release Dashboard
At the risk of seeming too corporate, I've added a dashboard page to the wiki to track our summary status: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard I hate status reports as much as anyone, but with so much information passing by on our many mailing lists, we risk losing track of the high-level status. I'm hoping that this dash board page, if we update it, can give us all a good view of how the release is progressing. No need for a lot of detail. This is intended to be high-level, identifying areas that are on track versus at risk. Or green/yellow/red. This will also make it easier for volunteers to see what areas need the most help. We have many volunteers who are able to help in more than one area. Now we can see what areas need help. Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Facebook Page Update
A quick update on how we're doing with social networking. This is an important way for us to engage with the users and the broader ecosystem. We have a lot of enthusiastic fans who enjoy hearing about our activities. Comparing numbers from a month ago (May 28th) I see a 21% increase in Facebook followers. We're now over 7000 likes there. https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO These are the real users of OpenOffice. They are not the insider open source fanatics, but just ordinarily users of every walk of life. They like getting updates from us, especially graphical, fun updates. They like sharing with their friends, so if we give them something interesting they will help us promote it. For example, this recent post was not profound, but was a little fun: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=545186758873539set=a.428697917189091.98579.185963401462545type=1 It received 213 likes and 46 shares. 5419 people saw that one post. I should note that Raphael has been doing a great job here as well, responding to questions and helping to keep the content fresh. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org wrote: Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of volunteers are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating same sentences repeatedly. As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there is no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is a crime. I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both LO and AOO Any suggestions for how to reduce or eliminate wastage? Since AOO and LO differ at the UI level, the translations will not be identical. But the basic terminology is almost identical. And we're using the same tools (Pootle). So maybe an opportunity to develop shared glossaries of common terms and phrases? And remember, any contribution to AOO is immediately usable by LO. In fact, LO office integrates many (most?) of our code changes. And if a LO volunteer wants their work to be usable by AOO as well, then they just need to say so. At the individual level it is entirely under their control if they want to license their contributions under Apache License as well as LGPL/MPL. If they do that then both projects can use the code. I wonder if they are not aware that they may do this? Regards, -Rob V.Kadal Amutham - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO 4.0 Logo: We're not done yet!
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: In case you are not following the discussion on the dev list, Juergen, the 4.0 Release Manager, has proposed an endgame schedule for the AOO 4.0 release: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201306.mbox/%3C51C16876.402%40gmail.com%3E The date relevant to the logo is Monday July 1th. That is the deadline for getting the logo changes integrated into Subversion for the OpenOffice product. Changes on the website and social networking don't have a hard deadline and can come later, perhaps synched up with the actual release of AOO 4.0, which is planned for later in July. So what needs to be done? 1) Kevin said he wanted to make some fine tuning of the text kerning in the logo. Kevin sent me an updated SVG file, but I'm having problems opening it in Inkscape or Illustrator. But I have posted the PNG of the result to the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+3+Logo+Refinement Once we have a working SVG file we can move ahead. 2) Alexandro said something about adjusting the colors. But I'm not certain I understood that correctly. I've heard nothing from Alexandro on this. I think we need to move on. 3) We need to update the graphics in the product. And there are a lot of them, around 25 of them, which I've laboriously transcribed onto the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Product+Logo+Use Most of them will be simple. It is just a matter of replacing one logo with another, and preserving the right formats, dimensions, color depths, etc. There is a column in the wiki to indicate who owns a given image. I'd recommend that we use this to avoid duplicating work. Of course, if someone wants to do all of the conversions, that is fine too ;-) I did one, as test, that used only the globe element from the logo. You can see in the wiki I added a little comment that explained what I did, so this work can be replicated later if needed. Regards, -Rob A few exceptions, of placements which will require some more thought: a) The splash screen is here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/introabout/intro.png It has integrated text and graphics and the text is rather ugly. Can we do better here? This is a place where some wow is appropriate. b) Some of the placements have high contrast versions, needed for when this mode is enabled in the operating system. This improves visibility for users with low vision. For example: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/framework/res/backing_hc.png I think we need to consult with someone with expertise in this to know exactly what we should be doing here. c) This is from the SDK install: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp As you can see it is a more elaborate, 3D image showing OpenOffice.org in the title bar. This will require someone skilled with their graphics editor to replace that text and make it look natural. Or redo the image. So plenty of work to do here for anyone who is good with a graphics editor and wants to help. But first we need Kevin and Alexandro to make their changes to the master SVG. After that we can work in parallel on the remaining pieces. The master SVG, from Chris, is here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ We have a little more than a week to do this, so can I strongly suggest that Kevin and Alexandro make their changes ASAP, and by Monday June 24th at the latest? Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
55 million downloads
A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of AOO 3.4. To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US). Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said, Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive. We're providing a lot of value. I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75 million or something like that, we announce more broadly? Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO 4.0 Logo: We're not done yet!
In case you are not following the discussion on the dev list, Juergen, the 4.0 Release Manager, has proposed an endgame schedule for the AOO 4.0 release: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201306.mbox/%3C51C16876.402%40gmail.com%3E The date relevant to the logo is Monday July 1th. That is the deadline for getting the logo changes integrated into Subversion for the OpenOffice product. Changes on the website and social networking don't have a hard deadline and can come later, perhaps synched up with the actual release of AOO 4.0, which is planned for later in July. So what needs to be done? 1) Kevin said he wanted to make some fine tuning of the text kerning in the logo. 2) Alexandro said something about adjusting the colors. But I'm not certain I understood that correctly. 3) We need to update the graphics in the product. And there are a lot of them, around 25 of them, which I've laboriously transcribed onto the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Product+Logo+Use Most of them will be simple. It is just a matter of replacing one logo with another, and preserving the right formats, dimensions, color depths, etc. A few exceptions, of placements which will require some more thought: a) The splash screen is here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/introabout/intro.png It has integrated text and graphics and the text is rather ugly. Can we do better here? This is a place where some wow is appropriate. b) Some of the placements have high contrast versions, needed for when this mode is enabled in the operating system. This improves visibility for users with low vision. For example: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/framework/res/backing_hc.png I think we need to consult with someone with expertise in this to know exactly what we should be doing here. c) This is from the SDK install: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/inc_sdkoo/windows/msi_templates/Binary/Image.bmp As you can see it is a more elaborate, 3D image showing OpenOffice.org in the title bar. This will require someone skilled with their graphics editor to replace that text and make it look natural. Or redo the image. So plenty of work to do here for anyone who is good with a graphics editor and wants to help. But first we need Kevin and Alexandro to make their changes to the master SVG. After that we can work in parallel on the remaining pieces. The master SVG, from Chris, is here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ We have a little more than a week to do this, so can I strongly suggest that Kevin and Alexandro make their changes ASAP, and by Monday June 24th at the latest? Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Source Code being used by LibreOffice
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mr. Dave for clarification. Is the policy statement in line with this discussion in the thread? Can you give the link of the policy statement? Apache policy on releases is here: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html But that policy only concerns what we do at Apache, within Apache projects. The rights and responsibilities of those who use our releases (including the source code in our releases) is set out in the license: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html But beyond policy and license there are the unwritten rules and expectations of how open source communities behave. These are cultural values, things like the sharing (rather than hoarding), of giving proper recognition/credit for contributions, etc. Regards, -Rob With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 7 June 2013 18:22, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Hi, There is a policy in place for the whole of the Apache Software Foundation and that is the Apache License 2.0. If we want to have a statement then we can clearly state that this allows reuse so long as trademarks, other included licenses and copyrights are respected. This is why we have a NOTICE and LICENSE in all of our releases. When we vote on a release we are saying that this is in order first. That the software works is secondary. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should clearly frame a policy statement w.r.t code reuse by others, and AOO taking code from other sources, put in the website for all to know. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 6 June 2013 20:24, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-06-06, at 16:38 , Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: This reminds me of a movie of Jackie Chan. I think the name of the movie is Police Story. The movie comes to an end. Afterwards there was a short film. A small boy was very hungry. His father steals a loaf of bread from a bakery to feed his son. The police arrives at that time and kills the father. Then Jackie Chan comes and consoles the boy, This world is very bad. But we should live in righteous way Your point is somewhat complicated by the fact that Jackie Chan has done tremendous work to remove the triads from informing the HK movie and Cantopop scene. And he's also recently gotten into some trouble for his efforts. (Just Google jackie chan triads.) It's been a long fight of his. But when he made Police Story A (I think it's the one you refer to, the homage to Buster Keaton; this was back in the 80s), the triads were profoundly dominant and determined not just what got made but who made it and for how much. Their control made (or makes) the studio regime in Hollywood (which ended mid-20th cent., more or less) pale by comparison. (Bollywood does not have anything like this, either, I believe.) As a result of the triads' control, actors like Chan (but one could also name many, many others) would make far more films each year than their Hollywood compeers and for far less--and under far, far worse circumstances. (The film, Painted Faces, ostensibly about Samo Hung's and Chan's early training, I recall, could also be read as about the film industry in HK. But it's been years since I studied this, so my data are doubtless rusty.) I don't think that we actually have an answer to the problematic that's been pointed out except the one I suggested: simply inform the world of what is actually going on. Right now, the world, which is to say that segment fed by the tech writers and who read self-serving blogs, believe that LO is the acme of originality and community and that AOO is the spawn of something else. License allows for many things; that's its point. But being honest about one's doings and acknowledging debt is also very important in the construction of community. louis With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 6 June 2013 19:54, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-06-06, at 02:23 , Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andrea for the response. In general how our community feels about this process? This is the nature of open source. Equally, as Andrea points out and as I think most would agree, what is crucial is acknowledging the debt--and then also to pay it back by contributing *back* to OpenOffice. So, the issue is not that Libre Office or any other derivative uses Apache OpenOffice code, the issue is rather whether they contribute back to the project to which they are indebted. And that is the great irony, or hypocrisy even. If you recall, LO touted the GPL as necessary to ensure
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 May 2013 18:12, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: It never occurred to me that those were flying books. Taking another look, it still doesn't work. If made more obviously as books, I'm not sure how that will occur as indicative of an office productivity suite. (I have no idea how birds in flight do that either, but it is probably better to avoid trying for a literal connection.) Slightly tangential historical question, if anyone here remembers authoritatively: What was the origin of the OpenOffice.org gull motif, way back when? Is (or was) this documented anywhere? The archives from the OpenOffice.org mailing lists are here: http://openoffice.markmail.org If you search for gulls you get first mention back in 2001. But the conversation sounds like it is already a familiar idea by that point in time. -Rob - d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[VOTE][RESULTS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0
Here are the binding votes, with names abbreviated as: CR = Chris Rottensteiner KGa = Kevin Grignon A KGb = Kevin Grignon AB SM = Samer Monsour none = none of the above PMC 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th robweir CR KGa KGb SM reginanoneCR Logo-39 Logo-28 rgb-esnoneSM CR KGa KGb arist SM CR KGa none kschenk Logo-28 Logo-31 KGb CR none pescetti CR SM noneKGa KGb hdu KGa KGb Logo-11 SM CR khirano noneKGa CR SM KGb mayongl noneCR KGa alg noneCR SM KGb KGa orw CR SM none jsc CR noneSM KGa afCR SM KGa none arielch none pjCR Logo-04 We have 15 ballots, so 8 votes are required to win. With Instant Runoff Voting we proceed in multiple rounds. In each round we tally the votes, see if anyone logo has the majority. If none do, then we drop the lowest scoring logo and reallocate the votes for those who picked the lowest scoring logo to their next ordered preference. Ties are broken by looking forward to next level preferences. Round 1 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Logo-28: 1 vote There is a tie for last place (SM and Logo-28) so we look forward to 2nd place preferences as a tiebreaker and see that SM has 4 votes and Logo-28 has zero. So we drop Logo-28 and move to Kay's 2nd preference (Logo-31) for Round 2. Round 2 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Logo-31: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo. Again, a tie, so we look forward at next preferences where SM has 4 votes and Logo-31 has zero. So we drop Logo-31 and move to Kay's next preference (KGb) for Round 3. Round 3 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote KGb: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo. Again, a tie, so we look forward at next preference where SM has 4 votes and KGb has 1. So we drop KGb and move to Kay's next preference (CR) for Round 4. Round 4 CR: 7 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo, SM, and reallocate Andrew's vote to his next choice, CR for round 5. Round 5 CR: 8 votes none: 6 votes CR now has the majority and wins. Note this is intuitively obvious as well, since 75% of the ballots rated CR higher than none. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Do we have SVG on all of these logos yet or would they be required after the decision is made? I sent a request to Chris for his latest SVG. I'll post it once I receive it. -Rob On 6/6/13, Alphonso Whitfield III awhitfi...@vital-inet.com wrote: I have been traveling and was unable to participate please send a link to the winning logo. Thanks Plan Your Work and Work Your Plan with The Vital Portal Alphonso Whitfield i...@thevitalportal.com Vital 912-816-2595 Skype: vital.i.net Visit us at: The Vital Portal The Vital Portal On facebook Visit our Google Community Join our Vital Portal Webinars at: The Vital Portal WebEx Meeting Center . - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: d...@openoffice.apache.org, marketing@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 1:11:53 PM Subject: [VOTE][RESULTS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Here are the binding votes, with names abbreviated as: CR = Chris Rottensteiner KGa = Kevin Grignon A KGb = Kevin Grignon AB SM = Samer Monsour none = none of the above PMC 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th robweir CR KGa KGb SM regina none CR Logo-39 Logo-28 rgb-es none SM CR KGa KGb arist SM CR KGa none kschenk Logo-28 Logo-31 KGb CR none pescetti CR SM none KGa KGb hdu KGa KGb Logo-11 SM CR khirano none KGa CR SM KGb mayongl none CR KGa alg none CR SM KGb KGa orw CR SM none jsc CR none SM KGa af CR SM KGa none arielch none pj CR Logo-04 We have 15 ballots, so 8 votes are required to win. With Instant Runoff Voting we proceed in multiple rounds. In each round we tally the votes, see if anyone logo has the majority. If none do, then we drop the lowest scoring logo and reallocate the votes for those who picked the lowest scoring logo to their next ordered preference. Ties are broken by looking forward to next level preferences. Round 1 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Logo-28: 1 vote There is a tie for last place (SM and Logo-28) so we look forward to 2nd place preferences as a tiebreaker and see that SM has 4 votes and Logo-28 has zero. So we drop Logo-28 and move to Kay's 2nd preference (Logo-31) for Round 2. Round 2 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Logo-31: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo. Again, a tie, so we look forward at next preferences where SM has 4 votes and Logo-31 has zero. So we drop Logo-31 and move to Kay's next preference (KGb) for Round 3. Round 3 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote KGb: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo. Again, a tie, so we look forward at next preference where SM has 4 votes and KGb has 1. So we drop KGb and move to Kay's next preference (CR) for Round 4. Round 4 CR: 7 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo, SM, and reallocate Andrew's vote to his next choice, CR for round 5. Round 5 CR: 8 votes none: 6 votes CR now has the majority and wins. Note this is intuitively obvious as well, since 75% of the ballots rated CR higher than none. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Logo next steps
Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. The ones I know of, from just a scan of the product and website are: a) The logo in the splash screen. This includes the version number, as well as some copyright text and other material. b) Image in Help/About dialog. This also includes version number. c) Website header d) Blog side bar e) http://forum.openoffice.org/ header f) Wiki header -- but the scale is quite small there so maybe we want to use only the graphical portion? g) extensions/templates repositories h) favicon? i) Bugzilla? Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? 3) Hopefully several of us can help create the needed variations once we have the vector source. Note that some are website uses and other are in-product uses. I think we should prioritize the in-product uses, so we don't hold up the release. 4) Later, after we ship, we can notify 3rd parties, Amazon, etc., so they can update their copy. Regards. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: What we've done so far: 1) Called for logo submissions from the community 2) Many designers responded and we received 40 submissions. There was a lot of cross-fertilization of ideas, as designers saw what others had come up with, what worked, and borrowed ideas. 3) We did a survey of user responses to the 40 logo submissions. Over 5000 users offered their ratings and written comments. 4) Publish report and blog post on the results of the logo survey. 5) Invited the designers of the top-rated logos to read over the survey comments and refine their designs and submit an updated version. That's where we are now. The updated logos (three of them) are on the wiki now: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement As you can see there is quite a bit of convergence on a design occurring. So what next? I'd like to propose some next steps. A) Let's discuss the three designs on the mailing list for the next week. The discussion might lead to further refinement. B) If at the end of the week there is consensus on a single design we'll go with that one. One week has passed. We've had some good discussion, and further refined one of the logos. Personally I am seeing convergence of opinion around one of the logos. However, some community members expressed a preference for different logos from the survey (not the top ones). One community member (Hagar) suggested not changing the logo at all, and another one (Graham) wanted to go back to the OpenOffice.org word mark and logo from OOo 3.3.0. So I'm not willing to claim that there is consensus. Also, my perception is that the discussion is not advancing, and minds are unlikely to change with further discussion. So I'll start a 72-hour vote later today. Since we have more than one option for a logo, I'll ask PMC members to list their ranked preferences. The ballot will be scored via Instant Run-Off Voting (IRV) rules [1]. I'll include a don't change the logo option as well as a position for a write-in choice. Everyone will have the opportunity to express their preference. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting Regards, -Rob C) If at the end of the week there is not consensus on a single design, and the discussion is not leading us closer toward consensus, then we'll have a 72-hour vote of PMC members to pick the logo. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 28 May 2013 21:07:28 Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 28 May 2013 15:00:47 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/28/13 2:48 PM, Alphonso Whitfield III wrote: I agree with Kadal looks like more of the same. And that is not necessarily bad. We got feedback from 5000 users and it seems that the majority like the logo we have and why not simply keeping the main idea and do only some refresh. Where is that data, I can't find it, it doesn't seem to be on the wiki with the logo stuff Hi Graham, Thanks for checking in. I'm sorry you were not able to be involved earlier over the several months that we've been working on a new logo. Likewise, oh well those are the breaks, priorities must needs win out. We had 40 proposals, did a survey and now we're refining the highest scoring submissions. If you want to get caught up on what we've all been working on, a good start would be the blog post here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/results_of_apache_openoffice_4 Note also the link to the more detailed report: http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/ Excellent, thank you. Why were Lucas Filho's concepts not included? https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27846912/Concepts_LucasFilho02.png Human error? Though the survey was vetted on the dev list and ample opportunity given to object if anyone thought something was missing. In fact some other logos were missing and the designers noticed this and told me. The process certainly is biased toward the interests of active community members. When you say Not necessarily bad, by what criteria do you judge this, the aesthetic sensibilities of 5000 random respondents. I'm sorry I missed the survey so I have no idea of what was in it. We prefer to call them users, just like we call those who comment on the list community members rather than random posters. Without a specific demographic defined and no filtering on respondents then they are to all intents and purposes random. You could define them as Community but concievably anyone who owns a computer could be called part of that community as soon as they make an effort to interract with the project. The only non-random element is that they all knew about OO before doing the survey which pretty much puts most of them outside the demographic that we need to reach. Fortunately we also included demographic questions so we can filter results and look at differences in a more fine-grained way, e.g., long term OpenOffice users versus those who are not users, by gender, by age, by country, etc. People like it because it's familiar, however it fulfills none of the requirements of a brand relaunch. I doesn't signal a new beginning, just says same old, same old. Besides which, choosing a logo by Vote is going to purely subjective without any thought being given to the practical needs of the brand, especially that of the marketing side of things, without any thought to the Brand as a whole. Since the respondents to the survey were primarily current OpenOffice users it is natural that the results would be biased toward continuity. Indeed, so therefore from a marketing POV the survey/poll was meaningless in terms of the branding needs. A number of us (Not just me as you seem to be inferring later in this reply) stated early on, that a Vote is a bad way to select a brand. As I probably pointed out back then, we produce a consumer product. Our users are not developers or techs and the User Community is far larger than the Project Community. If we were to make a comparison with the High Street then we are a B2C operation rather than a B2B which most other Open Source projects, certainly those here in the ASF, tend to be. We did not vote on a logo. We had a preference polll to gauge perception on the proposals from ordinary users. This data was gathered objectively, analyzed objectively and the analysis is being used objectively. How the logo appears to random people is relevant information. The comments especially are relevant. It is good that we know which logo is too close to the emblem of a European political party, which one is derived from an Icelandic radio station, which ones are unlucky in Chinese, and which one looks to some like a flying penis. Without the survey these relevant items might have been missed. But in no case is the survey treated like a vote and determine the outcome by itself. It is just an additional data point to feed into a deliberative process. If it was a vote we'd be done by now. On the other hand continuity is a value just as new beginning is a value. Definitely, I agree that continuity is a value but mainly in a shrinking or static market. We however are in an expanding market and to retain relevance
Re: Web Site
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I want to start up the discussion with the website work once again since the logos are very similar and will be picked by next week. I have already documented different pages and sites we currently have running. I think we should start mocking up templates, colors, lorem ipsum, colours, the logo placement, footer, header, etc. We should stick to wireframing, do not place a lot of work into details or copying content yet. jpeg or png mock ups are fine. As you know, what we have on the website today, at least for the static content (non-wiki) sections is a mashup of HTML/MDTEXT with CSS and header/footer/nav provided by the CMS template. So the basic page looks something like this: http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html My guess is we'll want to play with all three layers here, and do so in a way that does not interfere with the existing website. So we might want to ask Infra for a separate CMS target to play with, that can have its own templates, etc., We could, for example, have a /site-test in SVN that maps to an www-test.openoffice.org, or something like that. We can start brain storming here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Website+Ideas I gave some input on the larger topic here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Website+Strategic+Plan My main complaints were around visual consistency and the difficulty of maintaining native language websites. -Rob Samer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
. These are good observations. I would like to see it with an ffi ligature. I think we should leave the 4 out. Others have mentioned that 4 is an unlucky number is some cultures. Perhaps we have compromise and have both versioned and un-versioned logo designs. If so then I think a treatment like Version 4.0 in grey and blue might work. Regards, Dave - Dennis PS: Interesting that we've come around to a close variant of the current logo. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 03:22 PM To: d...@openoffice.apache.org; marketing@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection What we've done so far: 1) Called for logo submissions from the community 2) Many designers responded and we received 40 submissions. There was a lot of cross-fertilization of ideas, as designers saw what others had come up with, what worked, and borrowed ideas. 3) We did a survey of user responses to the 40 logo submissions. Over 5000 users offered their ratings and written comments. 4) Publish report and blog post on the results of the logo survey. 5) Invited the designers of the top-rated logos to read over the survey comments and refine their designs and submit an updated version. That's where we are now. The updated logos (three of them) are on the wiki now: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refine ment As you can see there is quite a bit of convergence on a design occurring. So what next? I'd like to propose some next steps. A) Let's discuss the three designs on the mailing list for the next week. The discussion might lead to further refinement. B) If at the end of the week there is consensus on a single design we'll go with that one. C) If at the end of the week there is not consensus on a single design, and the discussion is not leading us closer toward consensus, then we'll have a 72-hour vote of PMC members to pick the logo. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
What we've done so far: 1) Called for logo submissions from the community 2) Many designers responded and we received 40 submissions. There was a lot of cross-fertilization of ideas, as designers saw what others had come up with, what worked, and borrowed ideas. 3) We did a survey of user responses to the 40 logo submissions. Over 5000 users offered their ratings and written comments. 4) Publish report and blog post on the results of the logo survey. 5) Invited the designers of the top-rated logos to read over the survey comments and refine their designs and submit an updated version. That's where we are now. The updated logos (three of them) are on the wiki now: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement As you can see there is quite a bit of convergence on a design occurring. So what next? I'd like to propose some next steps. A) Let's discuss the three designs on the mailing list for the next week. The discussion might lead to further refinement. B) If at the end of the week there is consensus on a single design we'll go with that one. C) If at the end of the week there is not consensus on a single design, and the discussion is not leading us closer toward consensus, then we'll have a 72-hour vote of PMC members to pick the logo. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Found Chris R.
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Rob, I like Chris's logo. I noticed that he is using an ff ligature and would like to see it with an ffi ligature if that is available in that font. The font is Source Sans Pro, made open source by Adobe last year. If I'm reading the specs correctly it has ligatures for two letter combos like ff, fi and fl, but nothing special for three-letter combos. -Rob Regards, Dave On May 24, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I received an email from the designer of the logo with the highest score. He is Chris Rottensteiner from South Tyrol. I've added his information to the blog post here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/results_of_apache_openoffice_4 I also invited him to read the feedback from the survey and submit a revised logo. I also sent him information on this marketing mailing list. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Found Chris R.
I received an email from the designer of the logo with the highest score. He is Chris Rottensteiner from South Tyrol. I've added his information to the blog post here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/results_of_apache_openoffice_4 I also invited him to read the feedback from the survey and submit a revised logo. I also sent him information on this marketing mailing list. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Two Insights from the logo survey comments
I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought were interesting and worth discussing: 1) The number 4 appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea. Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product and go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels will not have a 13th floor). So the feedback was that we might not want to have a 4 be too prominent or central in the logo. 2) Some users suggested that a prominent TM trademark symbol was seen as conflicting with the openness theme. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Logo next steps
Some ideas: 1) I'm hoping we start seeing revisions of logos by Monday so we can take it to the next stage. Post them to the wiki. You can add your logo to the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement 2) Let's then discuss on the list and see if we can come to a consensus on the single logo to go with. Aim for a decision within a week, if possible. I'd rather avoid another survey. A few ways we could do this. We could discuss and by process of elimination converge on a single logo. Or maybe we ask each designer to vote for one logo, but they can't vote on their own? (Or would that be too dramatic?) Or, as a last resort we could ask the PMC to decide. But it is best if we can reach consensus instead of voting. We all know that we'll have only one logo in the end. 3) When we settle onto a logo, we'll need to get the vector source files uploaded. I can help with that. 4) We'll then need to make a variety of bitmap treatments of the logo. We'll need one for the website. Different ones for avatars for our Twitter, Google+ and Facebook pages. One for the Help/About dialog in the product. Possibly a more elaborate treatment for the splash screen, where we can create a larger image that includes the logo. We'll also want a much simplified and smaller treatment for the favicon. We can share these tasks. We don't need the original designer to do it all, once we have picked the main logo. We can even start now to collect technical requirements of these treatments, such as aspect ratio, 4) There are other elements of the brand refresh that we should look at as well, like updating toolbar icons. The connection to the logo is subtle here. I think it has more to do with the color palette, degree of saturation, lighting effects, etc. I am not a designer, so we really need someone with expertise to step up and make a proposal here on what we should do. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Rob Weir, I want to view the voting result. Can you send me the link once again? I have deleted by oversight. I want to know on what basis the short listing has been done The detailed report is here: http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/ The blog post, which is a higher level summary, is here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/results_of_apache_openoffice_4 Regards, -Rob With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 11 May 2013 01:33, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some ideas: 1) I'm hoping we start seeing revisions of logos by Monday so we can take it to the next stage. Post them to the wiki. You can add your logo to the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement 2) Let's then discuss on the list and see if we can come to a consensus on the single logo to go with. Aim for a decision within a week, if possible. I'd rather avoid another survey. A few ways we could do this. We could discuss and by process of elimination converge on a single logo. Or maybe we ask each designer to vote for one logo, but they can't vote on their own? (Or would that be too dramatic?) Or, as a last resort we could ask the PMC to decide. But it is best if we can reach consensus instead of voting. We all know that we'll have only one logo in the end. 3) When we settle onto a logo, we'll need to get the vector source files uploaded. I can help with that. 4) We'll then need to make a variety of bitmap treatments of the logo. We'll need one for the website. Different ones for avatars for our Twitter, Google+ and Facebook pages. One for the Help/About dialog in the product. Possibly a more elaborate treatment for the splash screen, where we can create a larger image that includes the logo. We'll also want a much simplified and smaller treatment for the favicon. We can share these tasks. We don't need the original designer to do it all, once we have picked the main logo. We can even start now to collect technical requirements of these treatments, such as aspect ratio, 4) There are other elements of the brand refresh that we should look at as well, like updating toolbar icons. The connection to the logo is subtle here. I think it has more to do with the color palette, degree of saturation, lighting effects, etc. I am not a designer, so we really need someone with expertise to step up and make a proposal here on what we should do. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Also if there is any special font used, to be inserted or have the source files, or at least the path files. On 5/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I would like to see the sourc, so users can modify it, preferably on an open source format like XCF or SVG. Yes, +1. We'll also need these to be formally contributed to Apache if the designer has not already signed the iCLA. -Rob On 5/10/13, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Rob Weir, I want to view the voting result. Can you send me the link once again? I have deleted by oversight. I want to know on what basis the short listing has been done With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 11 May 2013 01:33, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some ideas: 1) I'm hoping we start seeing revisions of logos by Monday so we can take it to the next stage. Post them to the wiki. You can add your logo to the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement 2) Let's then discuss on the list and see if we can come to a consensus on the single logo to go with. Aim for a decision within a week, if possible. I'd rather avoid another survey. A few ways we could do this. We could discuss and by process of elimination converge on a single logo. Or maybe we ask each designer to vote for one logo, but they can't vote on their own? (Or would that be too dramatic?) Or, as a last resort we could ask the PMC to decide. But it is best if we can reach consensus instead of voting. We all know that we'll have only one logo in the end. 3) When we settle onto a logo, we'll need to get the vector source files uploaded. I can help with that. 4) We'll then need to make a variety of bitmap treatments of the logo. We'll need one for the website. Different ones for avatars for our Twitter, Google+ and Facebook pages. One for the Help/About dialog in the product. Possibly a more elaborate treatment for the splash screen, where we can create a larger image that includes the logo. We'll also want a much simplified and smaller treatment for the favicon. We can share these tasks. We don't need the original designer to do it all, once we have picked the main logo. We can even start now to collect technical requirements of these treatments, such as aspect ratio, 4) There are other elements of the brand refresh that we should look at as well, like updating toolbar icons. The connection to the logo is subtle here. I think it has more to do with the color palette, degree of saturation, lighting effects, etc. I am not a designer, so we really need someone with expertise to step up and make a proposal here on what we should do. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Draft Blog Post: Results of Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=results_of_apache_openoffice_4 I was able to get comments from each designer except from Chris R (no contact info available) and Robin (no response to emails). Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Good blog post from Mozilla: How to Spread the Word about Your Code
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/05/how-to-spread-the-word-about-your-code/ -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Are you successfully using OpenOffice? Can we quote you on that?
We're close to hitting the 50 million download mark for Apache OpenOffice 3.4. This is a major milestone and we're thinking about putting out a press release. As part of this we'd like to include quotes for some success stories with OpenOffice users. Ideally, I'd like something interesting, a small (or large) company that has deployed OpenOffice, a non-profit organization, a consultant who has recently deployed OpenOffice, etc. If you have an interesting story to tell regarding OpenOffice and are able to be quoted (name and affiliation) please contact me off-line. Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Please Unsubscribe
Hi Cherry, There is no way to do a blanket unsubscribe. You need to do it individually for each mailing list you subscribed to. You can see a list of our mailing lists here, along with instructions for unsubscribing: http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html Regards, -Rob On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Chery ch...@mchsi.com wrote: Please unsubscribe from all Open Office distribution accounts . Or Please send me a list so I can do a blanket Unsubscribe Thank you, Way to many emails to sort through. ch...@mchsi.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Are you successfully using OpenOffice? Can we quote you on that?
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Albino B Neto bino...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/5/6 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: We're close to hitting the 50 million download mark for Apache OpenOffice 3.4. This is a major milestone and we're thinking about putting out a press release. Very good, congratulations ! :-) I can be published on the media here, and asked to send to my email ? And so I forward to your email. Or do you think best to send to you directly ? Email me directly, please. -Rob -- Albino B Neto Debian GNU/Linux | FSFLA | Free Software fsfla.orgtux-es.orgfsf.orggnu.org Chave GPG: 5ED34354 Key fingerprint = 0DFF 4640 44CD 5935 D0F5 E3DF 4E0F A597 5ED3 4354 Não tenho nenhuma rede social. Privacidade ! Skype é software não-livre (liberdade, negada). Use Ekiga ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Results from AOO 4.0 Logo Poll
I've updated the report to include links to the comments received for the top scoring logos. You can find links at the end of the report: http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/ Or here: http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/34.txt http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/36.txt http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/5.txt http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/28.txt http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/12.txt http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/13.txt http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/31.txt Next steps? As far as the survey goes, I think I'm done. We have a heap of data. I tried to make some sense of it. But it now is for the designers to take all this feedback and create one or more revised designs. Of the top scoring logos, two were from Kevin Grignon, one from Samer Mansour, two from Michael Acevedo and one from someone I haven't seen on the mailing list, but whose entry on the wiki was from Chris R. Maybe it makes sense in the next round to aim for one design per designer? If so, we can probably narrow it down to 3 or 4 choices, which we can either poll users again for, or just have a vote of project participants. There isn't much time yet, so could I suggest we aim for having the revisions done for next Friday, May 10th? Aim for 400 pixels wide, PNG with white or transparent background. Regards, -Rob On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: The survey ran for a week,and received over 5000 responses. I wrote up the results, along with some charts, and put them here: http://survey.openoffice.org/reports/aoo40-logo-poll/ It is rather long and detailed, so I'll take a subset of that content and spin it into a blog post over the next week or two. If there is an approach to analysis that I missed, let me know. It is easy for me to create additional tables or charts. If any designer wants to receive the user comments on their logo let me know the logo number and I'll send them to you. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Logo Survey
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Robin Fowler audio.fow...@googlemail.com wrote: Rob, would you mind adding these logos? http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4027/oo4designmorefeathers.jpg http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4763/oo4design02final.jpg http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8356/oo4designfinal.jpg (last one can replace my logo-3 in the survey) Sure, I'm adding them now. Also, is there some kind of quality restriction? some of the logos look very compressed.. My processing is in Photoshop CS6: 1) Increasing margins if the image was tight against the edge of its canvas 2) Cropping if the image had excessive margins 3) Setting background to white if the image had a transparency channel 4) Resizing to 400 pixels width 5) Saving as PNG It is possible that an image loses some sharpness in step 4. But we have a mix of image sizes, some 300 pixel JPG's and some 1024 pixel PNG's. We need to get them somehow into equivalent scales for the survey. If any designer prefers to render their image directly to 400px, I'm happy to take those. -Rob Otherwise looking good, thanks for the effort. Robin On 24 Apr 2013, at 08:54, Antoine Chevrier 1antoinechevri...@gmail.com wrote: Claudio, Rob, Can and any others, In the survey, I do not see the logo suggestion number 19 of the AOO 4.x-Logo Exploration wiki pagehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations(the hot red AOO logo proposal mixing A O O letters with Apache feather located at the bottom of the page). If still possible for you, could you just check this and check the whys, and then decide if this logo should or not should be included in the survey ? Antoine 2013/4/23 Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com Ah, I see. Thanks, I am not going to make a new proposal in a night :) Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Thank for your help. By the way, can we update our proposals or add new ones until the final survey is opened? Yes, but there is not much time remaining before we start the survey. Hopefully we can start the survey tomorrow. However, there will be more time to refine proposals after the survey, based on the user feedback we receive. Presumably we'll then focus on the designs that achieved the highest ratings in the survey. They survey is not the end, just the next step. So if you have a change or a new proposal that is ready now, post it and let me know about it. Ideally it will be 400 pixels wide so I can easily add it. Regards, -Rob Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Claudio Filho I think I have it fixed now. Could you try: It is fine now, Rob. Congrats by your work. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Logo Survey
I'm still working on the questions, a laborious text entry task, but the images can be browsed directly here: http://survey.openoffice.org/upload/surveys/815178/images/ -Rob On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Robin Fowler audio.fow...@googlemail.com wrote: Rob, would you mind adding these logos? http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4027/oo4designmorefeathers.jpg http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4763/oo4design02final.jpg http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8356/oo4designfinal.jpg (last one can replace my logo-3 in the survey) Sure, I'm adding them now. Also, is there some kind of quality restriction? some of the logos look very compressed.. My processing is in Photoshop CS6: 1) Increasing margins if the image was tight against the edge of its canvas 2) Cropping if the image had excessive margins 3) Setting background to white if the image had a transparency channel 4) Resizing to 400 pixels width 5) Saving as PNG It is possible that an image loses some sharpness in step 4. But we have a mix of image sizes, some 300 pixel JPG's and some 1024 pixel PNG's. We need to get them somehow into equivalent scales for the survey. If any designer prefers to render their image directly to 400px, I'm happy to take those. -Rob Otherwise looking good, thanks for the effort. Robin On 24 Apr 2013, at 08:54, Antoine Chevrier 1antoinechevri...@gmail.com wrote: Claudio, Rob, Can and any others, In the survey, I do not see the logo suggestion number 19 of the AOO 4.x-Logo Exploration wiki pagehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations(the hot red AOO logo proposal mixing A O O letters with Apache feather located at the bottom of the page). If still possible for you, could you just check this and check the whys, and then decide if this logo should or not should be included in the survey ? Antoine 2013/4/23 Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com Ah, I see. Thanks, I am not going to make a new proposal in a night :) Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Thank for your help. By the way, can we update our proposals or add new ones until the final survey is opened? Yes, but there is not much time remaining before we start the survey. Hopefully we can start the survey tomorrow. However, there will be more time to refine proposals after the survey, based on the user feedback we receive. Presumably we'll then focus on the designs that achieved the highest ratings in the survey. They survey is not the end, just the next step. So if you have a change or a new proposal that is ready now, post it and let me know about it. Ideally it will be 400 pixels wide so I can easily add it. Regards, -Rob Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Claudio Filho I think I have it fixed now. Could you try: It is fine now, Rob. Congrats by your work. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a brand refresh for our next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we are looking to update our logo. We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like your feedback on these designs. You can find the survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Logo Survey
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I know that can be too late but... can we do translated versions for this survey? I see here[1] that is possible to translate the questions in a survey. [1]http://manual.limesurvey.org/wiki/Localisation Best, Claudio ps: sorry by too late, but i has time only now to see the limesurvey. :( We're limited in what we can change in the survey once the survey has started. But as a test I just enabled pt-br and you can see it here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/lang-pt-BR The standard navigation text is already translated. To include more we would need to translate the following: Survey Title: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Poll ### Survey Description: A public poll of Apache OpenOffice 4.0 logo designs. ### Welcome message: The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a brand refresh for our next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we are considering updating our logo. We've received many ideas from community members and we would like your feedback on these designs. The following survey will first ask you some demographic questions, and then present you with 41 different logos. For each logo we ask that you rate it on a 5-point scale, from Strongly dislike to Strongly like. Note: These are not the final logo images, but drafts of various proposed logos. We ask that you rate them from a concept and design perspective, knowing that whatever image we pick will undergo further improvements. ### End message: We thank you for your feedback.Results of this survey will be published by May 15th on the Apache OpenOffice blog. ### Translate the questions and answers for the demographic section ### Translate the answers for the logo preference section Strongly dislike Dislike Neither like nor dislike Like Strongly like ### Regards, -Rob 2013/4/24 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: I'm still working on the questions, a laborious text entry task, but the images can be browsed directly here: http://survey.openoffice.org/upload/surveys/815178/images/ -Rob On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Robin Fowler audio.fow...@googlemail.com wrote: Rob, would you mind adding these logos? http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4027/oo4designmorefeathers.jpg http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4763/oo4design02final.jpg http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8356/oo4designfinal.jpg (last one can replace my logo-3 in the survey) Sure, I'm adding them now. Also, is there some kind of quality restriction? some of the logos look very compressed.. My processing is in Photoshop CS6: 1) Increasing margins if the image was tight against the edge of its canvas 2) Cropping if the image had excessive margins 3) Setting background to white if the image had a transparency channel 4) Resizing to 400 pixels width 5) Saving as PNG It is possible that an image loses some sharpness in step 4. But we have a mix of image sizes, some 300 pixel JPG's and some 1024 pixel PNG's. We need to get them somehow into equivalent scales for the survey. If any designer prefers to render their image directly to 400px, I'm happy to take those. -Rob Otherwise looking good, thanks for the effort. Robin On 24 Apr 2013, at 08:54, Antoine Chevrier 1antoinechevri...@gmail.com wrote: Claudio, Rob, Can and any others, In the survey, I do not see the logo suggestion number 19 of the AOO 4.x-Logo Exploration wiki pagehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations(the hot red AOO logo proposal mixing A O O letters with Apache feather located at the bottom of the page). If still possible for you, could you just check this and check the whys, and then decide if this logo should or not should be included in the survey ? Antoine 2013/4/23 Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com Ah, I see. Thanks, I am not going to make a new proposal in a night :) Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Thank for your help. By the way, can we update our proposals or add new ones until the final survey is opened? Yes, but there is not much time remaining before we start the survey. Hopefully we can start the survey tomorrow. However, there will be more time to refine proposals after the survey, based on the user feedback we receive. Presumably we'll then focus on the designs that achieved the highest ratings in the survey. They survey is not the end, just the next step. So if you have a change or a new proposal that is ready now, post it and let me know about it. Ideally it will be 400 pixels wide so I can easily add it. Regards, -Rob Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Claudio Filho
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Albino B Neto bino...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/24 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Good ! :-) I'm already spreading. 407 responses so far. Oh, my poor little server! -Rob Albino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Logo Survey
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Please let me know immediately: 1) If there are any typos in the survey Rob, * in logo-7, the answer's order is wrong; OK. I fixed that. * appears that logo-2 and logo-15 are the same with different size; Could be. I'll remove one of them. And, at final, after push the next button, returned the string below. I think that the correct is a thanks page and redirect to oo.org page. That's odd. Is anyone else seeing this? If I'm reading it right, it is complaining about the first question of the 2nd page. I'll investigate. I'm seeing some errors now as well. So I'm bring the survey down for an upgrade. I'll post more info later when it is up again. -Rob -Rob Regards, Claudio Unknown column '47435X5X87' in 'field list':UPDATE cyl_survey_47435 SET `lastpage`='2', `47435X5X87`='L003', `47435X5X87comment`='', `47435X5X72`='L005', `47435X5X72comment`='', `47435X5X83`='L002', `47435X5X83comment`='', `47435X5X86`='L001', `47435X5X86comment`='', `47435X5X71`='L005', `47435X5X71comment`='', `47435X5X79`='L002', `47435X5X79comment`='', `47435X5X69`='L003', `47435X5X69comment`='', `47435X5X82`='L002', `47435X5X82comment`='', `47435X5X89`='L001', `47435X5X89comment`='', `47435X5X76`='L002', `47435X5X76comment`='', `47435X5X73`='L005', `47435X5X73comment`='', `47435X5X80`='L001', `47435X5X80comment`='', `47435X5X90`='L003', `47435X5X90comment`='', `47435X5X77`='L003', `47435X5X77comment`='', `47435X5X81`='L003', `47435X5X81comment`='', `47435X5X85`='L002', `47435X5X85comment`='', `47435X5X74`='L002', `47435X5X74comment`='', `47435X5X70`='L002', `47435X5X70comment`='', `47435X5X84`=' ', `47435X5X84comment`='', `47435X5X78`='L001', `47435X5X78comment`='', `47435X5X75`='L001', `47435X5X75comment`='', `47435X5X88`='L001', `47435X5X88comment`='' WHERE ID=2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Logo Survey
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com wrote: I changed the one on the Single View page to the one without padding. Also, you can view it on many sizes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/95163174@N08/8674879903/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Thanks! I added that version, sized to 400px width. See now: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ (You might need to clear your cache to see the new image) -Rob Thanks, Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Rob, can you change my logo to the one on this page: (Image quality is better- mine was Logo 21 on the survey) cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations+Single+View I think that is the one I used, but I think it got fuzzier when I resized it. Looking at it now I see it is 320x320 pixels. So choices: 1) Show it at 320x320 pixels, which will make it much smaller than the other logos in the survey (it has a lot of padding) 2) Or maybe you can post a larger version, so I can get a 400px version, cropped in a little closer? 3) What we have now, where I cropped and resized to 400pmx. I'm happy to do whichever you want. -Rob Thanks Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Please let me know immediately: 1) If there are any typos in the survey Rob, * in logo-7, the answer's order is wrong; OK. I fixed that. * appears that logo-2 and logo-15 are the same with different size; Could be. I'll remove one of them. And, at final, after push the next button, returned the string below. I think that the correct is a thanks page and redirect to oo.org page. That's odd. Is anyone else seeing this? If I'm reading it right, it is complaining about the first question of the 2nd page. I'll investigate. I'm seeing some errors now as well. So I'm bring the survey down for an upgrade. I'll post more info later when it is up again. -Rob -Rob Regards, Claudio Unknown column '47435X5X87' in 'field list':UPDATE cyl_survey_47435 SET `lastpage`='2', `47435X5X87`='L003', `47435X5X87comment`='', `47435X5X72`='L005', `47435X5X72comment`='', `47435X5X83`='L002', `47435X5X83comment`='', `47435X5X86`='L001', `47435X5X86comment`='', `47435X5X71`='L005', `47435X5X71comment`='', `47435X5X79`='L002', `47435X5X79comment`='', `47435X5X69`='L003', `47435X5X69comment`='', `47435X5X82`='L002', `47435X5X82comment`='', `47435X5X89`='L001', `47435X5X89comment`='', `47435X5X76`='L002', `47435X5X76comment`='', `47435X5X73`='L005', `47435X5X73comment`='', `47435X5X80`='L001', `47435X5X80comment`='', `47435X5X90`='L003', `47435X5X90comment`='', `47435X5X77`='L003', `47435X5X77comment`='', `47435X5X81`='L003', `47435X5X81comment`='', `47435X5X85`='L002', `47435X5X85comment`='', `47435X5X74`='L002', `47435X5X74comment`='', `47435X5X70`='L002', `47435X5X70comment`='', `47435X5X84`=' ', `47435X5X84comment`='', `47435X5X78`='L001', `47435X5X78comment`='', `47435X5X75`='L001', `47435X5X75comment`='', `47435X5X88`='L001', `47435X5X88comment`='' WHERE ID=2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Logo Survey
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Thank for your help. By the way, can we update our proposals or add new ones until the final survey is opened? Yes, but there is not much time remaining before we start the survey. Hopefully we can start the survey tomorrow. However, there will be more time to refine proposals after the survey, based on the user feedback we receive. Presumably we'll then focus on the designs that achieved the highest ratings in the survey. They survey is not the end, just the next step. So if you have a change or a new proposal that is ready now, post it and let me know about it. Ideally it will be 400 pixels wide so I can easily add it. Regards, -Rob Can Ünlüsoy 2013/4/23 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Claudio Filho I think I have it fixed now. Could you try: It is fine now, Rob. Congrats by your work. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Can Ünlüsoy unlusoy...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Example of an SEO win
An example of the relatively simple things we can do to improve search results related to OpenOffice. For quite a while now the top Google results for the query Apache OpenOffice was our AOO 3.4.0 press release. That is because of two factors: 1) That press release page was broadly covered in the press so there where many incoming links to it, raising its relevancy. 2) We didn't have many links to our home page with the term Apache OpenOffice. It tended to be linked with the anchor OpenOffice.org or OpenOffice. This was non-optimal, since a user searching for Apache OpenOffice probably wants the home page, not a year-old press release. To fix this I did two things: 1) On our Apache page (https://openoffice.apache.org/) I made sure that we linked to www.openoffice.org when we mentioned Apache OpenOffice. 2) I edited our old blog posts and similarly made sure it did prominent links to www.openoffice.org with the anchor text Apache OpenOffice. It took a few months for these changes to show up in the Google results, but now you can see, a query for Apache OpenOffice leads the user directly to our home page. So if you see anything non-optimal in search engine rankings for terms related to OpenOffice, bring it up on the list. We might be able to improve things. Regards, -Rob
Re: AOO in market
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Yue Helen helenyu...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone here have some data on AOO in the overall productivity tools market? For example, the market ratio...any report? Have you seen this page on the wiki? http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis This report is one of the more recent ones: http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html and, do we know how many enterprises are using Apache OpenOffice? 40M is definitely a huge and encouraing number...but need more analysis. I guess We have no way of telling. In some cases a company or organization will publicly announce that they have moved to OpenOffice. Some of them are listed in the wiki page above. But most companies do not discuss their IT choices publicly. most are end users. Is it true? How many users among the 40M are using ODF? We have no information on this. I think it will be very helpful for us to know this and set up our development objectives, and even do some user segmentation analysis if we have this info. These are things we might be able to find out in a well-designed user survey. But such a survey is only good if we can reach all users equally. But an enterprise deployment would tend to not involve the end users visiting our website and downloading AOO. So the easiest way to conduct a survey, like having a survey link on the web site would under-represent enterprise users. -Rob Thanks. Helen
Re: Website Work
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, We can consider not using a single CSS or template for the entire site. Rather we would partition the website and apply CSS and templates according to their context or navigation depth. Maybe a single CSS for colours, fonts sizes, tables, etc. eg. lets call this standard.css The secondary pages, like module info and volunteer list, would have a CSS for layout information. eg secondary.css Homepage and Download pages would have a different layout CSS but still inherent the font and colors from the first CSS. eg home.css and download.css We may also consider moving the API to openoffice.apache.org and giving it its own css / program an exemption for those. It looks like a lot of links are broken right now as well. That would be on the list as well for fixing. I think success in this area will be greatly enhanced if we make it a non-goal to encompass the entire openoffice.org website as it is today. I'd highly recommend focusing on a core website, with good up-to-date content, a good modern look, SEO optimized and with a well-defined method for localization. It can probably be done with 25 pages per language. Of course, we can also preserve, for historical or archival reasons, everything else. But l think we can take a data-driven approach to identify the pages that users actually use most, and focus the core website on that. -Rob Samer On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - When the time comes to do the web site redesign, let me know and I'll help provide any guidance on how the current template is fit together. I'm the person who did the bulk of the work moving the old into the Apache CMS. Don't let the current html fool you the way things work extracts everything needed for the page. Fair warning this can include css files. This means that it might be difficult to go contain the whole of the re-design to a single css - side effects from these other css will take time. openoffice.org/api is particularly tricky and has its own css to style generated content. Regards, Dave On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Robin Fowler wrote: Hi Samer, I'm fine implementing the design, and we can do it together that sounds great. But I don't think it's a good idea to start with a web design without knowing the logo. The logo is the strongest visual element in the whole branding and i think the website (and in fact the entire brand design) should be tailored to the appearance of it. My proposal is obviously tailored to my own logo design, but if we decide to use a different logo then i would like to optimise the design for it. One thing you don't want is to implement a design and then change things. The most efficient way of doing this is making a mockup, optimising it and then implementing it 1:1 in html/css. I'm afraid I'm not up to date with the current status and have no idea if any proposals have been chosen/dismissed yet. So yes I'm fine helping out but wouldn't want to do this before a decision has been made. Robin On 27 Mar 2013, at 03:12, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Robin, Would you be interested working together to come up with a new website template (html/css)? We would prioritize and size the work together. I would like to get this started in parallel with selecting a logo. I really liked your proposal and I think we can make a strong visual identity for the homepage and secondary pages. I want to keep openoffice.org end-user focused So we may move some pages over to openoffice.apache.org that are more project/development specific and vice versa. I am not excluding others from helping, I'm simply asking if you can do this. You have made a very good website proposal. Please let me know if you are interested. We can exchange and IM outside this mailing list to collaborate. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Thinking about AOO 50 million and 1 Year
It seems like it was just yesterday that we were talking about the 40 million downloads of AOO. But I just checked the latest numbers and we're now over 43 million. At this rate (and it is accelerating) we'll hit 50 million by the end of April. That happens to be right around the 1 year anniversary of our first release of Apache OpenOffice, which was May 8th, 2012. Any thoughts on what we want to do for this occasion? Of course, we could always just do a blog post and link to it from our home page. That's easy enough. But is there anything more we can do? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.com wrote: Ok here's the smaller logo, 100px high. http://imagebin.org/251283 Excellent! I think we have what we need now. I'll publish the blog post and update the website this afternoon. I'll put the larger version of the logo out on our Pinterest account as well. Thanks! -Rob Robin On 22 Mar 2013, at 11:17, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.com wrote: I think the images i sent must have been screwed up by my mail app (they were two different sizes) Let me know if one of these are big enough. I'll work on something smaller for the website and send it later on. Robin http://imagebin.org/251225 http://imagebin.org/251226 On 21 Mar 2013, at 22:21, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Here is some artwork from a OS-Tan Logo originally for Linux, but with some changes, I have modified the colors and peaks of the bird to be more gull like. with the AOO colors. http://imagebin.org/251048 I might do a different one with a white coat and helmet and blue edge. On 3/20/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 3/6/13, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.com wrote: I'll probably find the time to make a logo. I've seen the official logo for 2013. Is there any other source of inspiration or any suggestions anyone has? You can see the artwork I did from both here: http://imagebin.org/251039 http://imagebin.org/251040 http://imagebin.org/251041 I like the 251039 one best. I'll put that in the blog post also. The OS-Tan one, I don't see the connection. Was the idea that the insignia on the shoulder would be gulls? Or the pen is mighter than the sword? It has potential. Well is more of a character, the idea is to have an AOO like, here is the profile of the different distros OS-Tan (Linux-Tan) http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs7/i/2005/262/3/c/Linux_tan___Lineart_by_juzo_kun.jpg Ah, OK. I was not familiar with this whole area of Japanese pop art. It looks interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism The idea is to have an AOO-Tan, and that could be an initial shot to have one (http://imagebin.org/251156). I could put the gull logo on the shoulder. Then again is pretty lousy since is a clone of the Linux-Tan best to have one drawn from scratch. Is there a general open source-tan? It might make sense to base it on that. But AOO is more than just Linux. Maybe having a native-american based drawing with some gull feathers. That would be interesting as well, since other Apache projects could inherit from the same base Apache-tan. -Rob -Rob Regards, Robin On 6 Mar 2013, at 17:59, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Document Freedom Day (DFD) promotes the use of open standards and interoperability in documents. OpenOffice has been a core part of DFD since it first started in 2008. Our community's support of the OpenDocument Format (ODF) file format is broad: in the product of course, but also via our personal use, and via the efforts of our volunteers in OASIS maintaining the standard, and at Plugfests improving interoperability. I'd like to see us celebrate Document Freedom Day. I think we can do something similar do what we did for International Mother Language Day: Using social media and our website. We can reach nearly a million people when we do this, so it is very effective. To make this happen we need a few things to happen before, say March 10th: Time is running out if we want to do something. 1) An adapted logo for the website, something thematic. a) The hi-res version of the current logo is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg b) For ideas, the official DFD art work is here: http://documentfreedom.org/artwork.en.html c) The final website logo should be 100px high, with width of 200-400px. d) If we can avoid putting the date in the logo we can reuse it in future years as well. Anyone feel inspired to create an AOO/DFD logo for the website? 2) A blog post and/or press release. The week prior to DFD is Sunshine Week in the US, and is focused on open government (http://www.sunshineweek.org/). So I might try to write up something that connects the two, i.e., how the use of open standards helps promote open government. I am currently working on a blog post for DFD. 3) Use our social media accounts to promote DFD on the day. I've created a placeholder for a landing page that can be shared via Facebook/Twitter/Google+. This is based on the work Samer did for the download page. It has no content, and I probably introduced some bugs. But it is full of potential
Re: [AOO 4.0 Branding Refresh] Call For Google Hangout
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted the event to facebook so it makes it into people's news feeds tonight. Hoping to get the public chiming in the chat room during the live video and during comments and QA. Rob can you grant me access to the AOO page on google+ so I can post there as well? Done. -Rob Its kind of good to post to post the day before because it will show up in news feeds on the social platforms. Preferably a week before and a day before and even during. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the agenda. I will post to cwiki as well and make a link available via our social sites as well: Design Hangout Agenda Join us on in chat on day of: Chat Room: http://www.chatzy.com/77134543884661 Room Password: aoodesign Join us via our Google Hangout Youtube stream: Link will be announced via facebook and google+ group day of. Visit our social pages day of the events get link. Welcome / Roll Call - 10 mins Rules - 1 min - Follow the agenda and stay on topic. Samer will be enforcing this. - Don't interrupt people speaking. Instead signal, wave / raise hand. I will queue people in order. - I will interrupt if repetitive / the same point is being made (moderating to drive conclusion, its what I do). First Item - Run Through Artifacts - 10 mins Application and launcher - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher Desktop Icons - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Desktop+Icons Installation - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Installation Logo - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Logo Social Sites - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Social+Sites Websites (big part) - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites Questions about artifacts - 5 mins Second Item - Outline A Rough Goal - 15 mins - Set some goal posts and lets try not to move them during review. - We will tackle items later based on these and then we can figure who can commit to do what. - Any items we can't fill will be posted to marketing page for work/help. Third Item - Review Logo Explorations 30-40 mins https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals -I will moderate the group through each of the designs on that page. Revisit Goals - 10 mins - From what we saw what works, what didn't. - Assignment of work if possible. Closing Comments and QA - Remainder of 30 mins On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 3/18/13, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Marketing, I will be creating an agenda and moderating a google hangout to discuss the submissions we've received. This is open to all people registered to the marketing mailing list. Not on the mailing list? https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_marketing_volunteers Add these to your google calendar (even if you don't use google calendar): First Hangout - http://goo.gl/PrVlF Saturday Mar 23rd: 9AM PDT, 12PM EDT, 4PM GMT, 9:30PM IST, 12AM SGT (Sunday) Second Hangout - http://goo.gl/akOHH Sunday Mar 24th: 5AM PDT, 8AM EDT, 12PM GMT, 5:30PM IST, 8PM SGT I got blank events on both. You can follow AOO on Google+ in order for me to invite you at the event start time from the community page: https://plus.google.com/communities/103683488250592271079 I know G+ now support events. Would be a good idea to generate it. The hangout will be recorded to youtube and posted on the mailing list for archive purposes. That way its not member conspiring in secret wahahaha. No but seriously its to have record of ideas and decisions we make. Fair warning, I don't know how good volunteers' english is, it may well turn into a thumbs up, thumbs down via video. I can't assume, but I'm giving this a try. Samer Mansour -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
