Re: [Marxism] Riots? Maybe not so radical

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I wonder if who she is seeing is the Boogaloo Movement 
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/27/the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think/

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Re: [Marxism] Don’t Believe Former Amazon VP/ICE Collaborator Tim Bray’s Grift | Washington Babylon

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After this recent story came out I noticed he had blocked me on twitter.  Was 
curious why and found I had tweeted about:

https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2015/08/16/Working-at-Amazon

He's spent over 5 years ignoring evidence of Amazon's awful practices because 
he didn't experience them personally in his bubble -- this isn't just about 
warehouse workers, the time he wrote this blog post it was in response to 
reports on how their programmers are treated.

Good that he finally realized they were chickenshit... But shouldn't forget the 
5+ years of not only ignoring it but actively pushing back against those who 
spoke up.

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Re: [Marxism] Intelligence Community Statement on Origins of COVID-19

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> Out of curiosity, how would such a thing be investigated? Is there
> something about a "manmade" contagion that leaves a trace in a way that an
> "unintentional" one does not?

Right, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

"the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any 
previously used virus backbone"

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Re: [Marxism] Howie Hawkins statement on COVID-19

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This is not a criticism of your statement, but reading this had me again 
thinking about the focus recently only being on medical care (M4A) or equipment 
(DPA) by Bernie.

While those are both extremely important, there are ongoing actions, movements 
and causes directly related to and started by the workers who keep the world 
functioning even during this crisis -- sanitation workers, delivery workers, 
health care workers, warehouse workers, agriculture workers, electric grid 
workers, network engineers... 

This crisis lays bare not only the changes we need around medical care, 
housing, planning and production outside the market, but also how so many 
workers can be forced to put their lives at risk with absolutely no control 
over the conditions, except for striking which we've seen recent cases of this 
leading to workers being fired, like Chris Smalls at Amazon.

Socialists need to be pointing out that it should be the workers in control of 
what is an essential item that needs to be delivered and what changes to the 
work environment make them safest.

The call for revolutionizing the economy around democratic control is one thing 
that separates socialists from New Deal Democrats and something that always 
frustrated me with the rallying around Sanders. While he offered proposals 
around co-ops and increased unionization, even those limited policies seemed 
unimportant to the message.

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Re: [Marxism] Minnesota: Doctors Receiving Instructions “to Report Covid19 as a Cause of Death, even if Patient was never Tested”

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> It is important to have an international outlook to issues and not to 
> look at everything only from a U.S. perspective. The world does not 
> circle around the U.S. - and from now on even less than before!

Wait, where is Minnesota?

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Re: [Marxism] Join the Struggle at Amazon! - COSMONAUT

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This does fit with the rank'n file strategy voted for at the last convention.

If they aren't already aware and making plans to take part, hopefully national 
learns about it and will make it a priority. I'll do what I can to pass it 
along.

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Re: [Marxism] The conspiracist left and the far right: strange bedfellows on COVID-19 | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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A new one from a former Mint Press News writer: 
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/all-roads-lead-dark-winter/

I couldn't make heads or tails of what she is trying to say in this piece -- 
though I only attempted to skim it.

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Re: [Marxism] Relief Package is neither stimulus nor workers' lifeline, it’s again massive bailout to tottering corporations By Mike Whitney

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Thanks for making your last paragraph a breakdown of how terrible Jimmy Dore is 
so that no one else has to chime in to point out he's an awful person in 
general and certainly an awful "leftist".

Tristan

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Re: [Marxism] COVID-19: A Cover for a Major Global Counterrevolutionary Offensive

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> The COVID-19 pandemic is certainly a significant health crisis. However, 
> things have to be seen in context. The influenza epidemics in the past 
> decades have caused 290,000-650,000 death each year, without provoking any 
> major political initiative by the ruling class. [2] The overall all-cause 
> influenza-attributable mortality in the 2017/18 season was estimated to be 
> about 152,000 deaths in Europe alone! [3] The Swine Flu Pandemic in 2009 has 
> killed up to 203,000 people. Since the COVID-19 crisis has caused, until now, 
> several thousand victims, it is evident that the global shut down which we 
> are currently experiencing must have different causes.

Did Trump write this?

And then it gets more convoluted:

> This is a powerful confirmation of the RCIT’s analysis that the mass lock 
> down of the population in other countries is not a necessary instrument to 
> fight against the COVID-19 epidemic but is rather politically motivated.

So was the shutdown unnecessary because COVID-19 isn't as bad as all the others 
that were listed earlier or because the governments didn't properly prepare 
with tests and health care worker equipment?

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Re: [Marxism] Italian & German mortality rates

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A major issue in Italy is the overwhelming of the health care system and 
doctors having to choose who to give required care to.

Did Germany start testing and social distancing early to keep the number of 
cases to be under the available resources in the hospitals?

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Re: [Marxism] "personal distancing plus social solidarity" Re: Fwd: [pen-l] If we want everyone to stay home during a coronavirus crisis, we need deep change to make that possible

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> It was never my intention to push anyone to go on the street. Every one 
> shall be free to stay home. People who want to lock themselves up should 
> do so. 

Sounding like a anti-vaxxer now. Everyone needs to distance or it doesn't work!

This virus has shown to be more contagious, live longer on surfaces and the air 
and be more deadly (many of those hospitalized are in their 20s and 30s and 
lose lung capacity).

China appears to have gotten over the hump, the idea that we shouldn't do the 
same is ridiculous, not to mention the same selfishness of not vaccinating 
involved in thinking its ok for those who don't want to stay inside to go out 
and risk everyone else's health.

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Re: [Marxism] "personal distancing plus social solidarity" Re: Fwd: [pen-l] If we want everyone to stay home during a coronavirus crisis, we need deep change to make that possible

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> I do trust science.  I trust doctors on epidemics . . . the same way I
> trust environmentalists on the climate.  Why would we not?  Most of us know
> enough to understand whether these things make sense or not.

This ^. 

Not only that, but we have comrades working in medical services. If we are able 
to flatten the curve and in the coming weeks or months so the health care 
system isn't stressed to a breaking point we should rely on those comrades to 
discuss appropriate measures for if/how mass actions can be handled.

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Re: [Marxism] "personal distancing plus social solidarity" Re: Fwd: [pen-l] If we want everyone to stay home during a coronavirus crisis, we need deep change to make that possible

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> Anyway, I can not imagine how the health care system should improve 
> without mass protests?! Online petitions are usually not particularly 
> successful on such issues.

At this time mass street protests ultimately means further overwhelming the 
hospital system more than it is already going to be, causing more death and 
despair.

There have already been cases of strikes in Spain, and we may see similar in 
the US with workers not being properly protected and refusing to work until 
they are. We must extend solidarity to those workers without making the 
situation worse.

Exacerbating a public health crisis is not going to help build a mass worker 
movement.

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Re: [Marxism] Sorry Chomsky and Friends, The Green Party isn't the Problem - CounterPunch.org

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All this discussion got me looking at the Green Party primary again and a 
couple things came out of that...

I'm now donating again to Howie and need to look into participating in the 
Colorado primary (not until May, figured I had time to figure out how that 
works). But part of the reason for this is seeing that David Rolde is a 
candidate -- guess I should have paid attention to the debates last year and 
would have known this sooner.

It is sad/scary that Rolde must feel at home in the Green Party. Even if, and I 
assume this is the case, he has 0 chance of coming close to the nomination.

Maybe it shouldn't be a surprise considering the VP candidate last year was 
Ajamu Baraka. Both the Green Party and DSA should be a party/organization that 
people like Rolde do not feel they belong, or else they'll never be able to be 
built into orgs that are welcoming to the working class internationally.

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Re: [Marxism] Day of action today

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> From where I am, it appears that ANSWER 
> https://www.answercoalition.org/  and 
> CodePink https://www.codepink.org/  are two 
> of the organizations that have some authority in this movement.

Exactly why it is hard for me to feel right engaging. While the DSA has a 
number of members with problematic and ANSWER-ish politics, overall we do not 
and with the size and reach of DSA today I hope it is not long before ANSWER is 
pushed out from the role of calling every protest and littering them with their 
signs.

But it will take a decision on the DSA's part to make this happen. Which means 
getting people in the national anti-war committee who think this is a necessary 
task.

Wish I could say that was going to be the case any time soon.

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Re: [Marxism] An Open Letter to the Green Party About 2020 Election Strategy

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Same arguments every four years. I wish either side could convince me their 
strategy was the best because then I'd at least feel like I knew there was a 
path forward.

I've voted Green every presidential election since I've been old enough to 
vote... though that is only 4. Each one I've lived in a different state (South 
Carolina, Illinois, California and now Colorado), and each time they don't 
matter.

Trump did not win California, so what is there to regret about my vote there?

I'll be voting for Sanders in the primary, (I'm now in Colorado), but I've been 
donating to Howie Hawkins and will vote for him in the general, whether Sanders 
gets the nomination or not.

If I ever live in a swing state I'd likely vote Democrat. The people hurt by 
Trump and the people emboldened by Trump is by far enough reason to do so. 

It was before my time (I mean, I was alive, just not voting) but the attempt in 
the 90's for a new party that fell apart partly because of the "don't run in 
swing states" issue makes me also realize building a new party that isn't 
trying to win will not work.

It has always felt there is way more to do outside of presidential election 
voting that is more important for building a working class movement, and that 
voting Green in a swing state does nothing to help with this goal (at this 
time, or any other time I've been voting).

Yet so much energy is spent on it.

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Re: [Marxism] DSA rank-and-file strategy

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> After 1978, it had such an orientation but it was a  complete disaster.

That was my general understanding of the SWP's attempt, but not that it was 
such a disaster there isn't even anything worth learning from it?

Thanks for the pointer to Dan's book, I'll definitely be reading that and 
reaching out to him to see if he's involved with the DSA's current 
rank-and-file work.
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[Marxism] DSA rank-and-file strategy

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I learned today that I somehow missed how much of a debate was going on for the 
last year around "industrialization" in the DSA and that a "rank-and-file 
strategy" was passed at the convention in August. 

I figured this was a good place to ask if there are resources about what the 
SWP did in the 70s. And other orgs that did the same. Basically resources to 
help not repeat mistakes of the past.

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Re: [Marxism] PG electricity shutdown in N. California

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It is an outrage.

>From @CorbettOToole via Facebook on #PGEshutoff: 

Folks who need power. If you do not have a back up power system (generator, 
etc) and you need power, the Emergency Preparedness folks are saying Go to your 
local hospital (probably the ER waiting room) for power. 

https://twitter.com/SFdirewolf/status/1181866075710992384
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Re: [Marxism] Katyn

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Ooh, Grover...
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Re: [Marxism] Taibbi on Trump 2020: Be Very Afraid – Rolling Stone

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It is pretty hilarious. How can anyone watch a Trump speech and come away 
saying, "those Democrats are so negative, not like this guy". 

Republicans have been warning about the end of the country for decades. Really 
weird how he basically reproduces the spin from the right...
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Re: [Marxism] DSA Convention 2019: This is Not What Democracy Looks Like | Left Voice

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I was at the convention 2 years ago but not this year. It is sad to hear that 
the same issues continue:

> Resolutions were proposed in a vacuum, without a discussion of the broader 
> political context.

I don't know what can be done as long as these disagreements between caucuses 
continue to be a focus of so many. And worse, I don't know how that could be 
done except with another "caucus" that fights for a revolutionary orientation, 
which also feels like just adding another caucus that will end up in procedural 
bickering with the existing caucuses!

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Re: [Marxism] Amber A’Lee Frost and Anna Khachiyan: the two dingbats who bonded with Spiked Online | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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The claim of a epidemic of women "voluntarily removing their reproductive 
organs" really stood out to me too. 

They've somehow taken their opposition to corporate feminism and turned into 
Phyllis Schlafly warning about the dangers of feminism. 

Actually, their attacks on MeToo also remind me of Schlafly... 
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Re: [Marxism] DSA/Jacobin/Haymarket-sponsored 'Socialism' conference features US gov-funded regime-change activists | The Grayzo

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I think China Labor Watch and International Labor Rights Forum.

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> "One anti-China panel at the conference features speakers from two
> different organizations that are both bankrolled by the US government’s
> soft-power arm the National Endowment for Democracy (NED)
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> I would expect 99% of what Blumenthal and Norton have to say would be 
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> to this claim? Who were the speakers they are referring to?
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Re: [Marxism] Surprise! Nuclear flack doesn't like "Chernobyl" miniseries

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I finally read some more of this piece. He claims there is no evidence of birth 
defects or deaths, and reported by a UCLA physician... That can't be true? I 
know it for sure isn't true for non-human births, which makes me find it 
incredibly unlikely it would be the case for human births as well.
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Re: [Marxism] Surprise! Nuclear flack doesn't like "Chernobyl" miniseries

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> You make it sound as though Shellenberger works for the nuclear power 
> industry. He doesn’t.

Who funds Environmental Progress?

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I'm watching it now.  It is definitely worth watching. I went in expecting the 
worst and am still in complete shock... A climber when asking about who 
employed the "militants" and about asking for them to be removed said, "can you 
talk to their owners?"
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And is one year older than SpongeBob 
https://entertainment.theonion.com/spongebob-squarepants-turns-20-1834434782

So much to celebrate on May Day.
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Wow, this is bad even by Roland Boer standards.
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I am surprised/confused why Philip hasn't been banned. And Redline posts like 
this seem to be increasing in frequency. 
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Re: [Marxism] Linux Beach: Before We Were Slaves: More on the first Africans in Virginia

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This does not appear to be the consensus with historians: 
https://twitter.com/historianess/status/1094648855113723906
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Re: [Marxism] Impeach Trump Now - The Atlantic

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Pence will not be more effective if his administration is one starting from the 
impeachment of Trump.

An impeachment and removal requires the Republican controlled Senate, while 
Trump's base will still be with him and outraged at all the Republicans 
involved in conviction. I have no doubt that the remaining term will not be a 
productive one.

So I don't think, "Pence could be worse!", is a very good argument against 
impeachment in the first place, and I really don't see how it can be considered 
even a realistic issue that he'd be able to more effectively implement Trump 
policy after an impeachment.

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Re: [Marxism] Can the Jewish Community Benefit from White Privilege If They Are Targets of White Supremacy?

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The defenses are all more confusing since the one statement from Mallory they 
do mention is about how she has learned and grown since the conversation that 
Harmon and Wruble described:

 "Since that conversation, we’ve all learned a lot about how while white Jews, 
as white people, uphold white supremacy, ALL Jews are targeted by it"

So it has sounded to me that she is handling this much better than many of 
those coming to her defense.
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Re: [Marxism] Can the Jewish Community Benefit from White Privilege If They Are Targets of White Supremacy?

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This article is another weird comparison. 

How is any of this similar to Kellyanne Conway, Hope Hicks and Sarah Huckabee 
Sanders? They aren't leaders in a progressive movement...

And this article again doesn't seem to mention any of what Tamika Mallory has 
said, instead claiming it is all about being held accountable for Farrakhan's 
words. That isn't true.
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Re: [Marxism] Can the Jewish Community Benefit from White Privilege If They Are Targets of White Supremacy?

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Isn't the NOI now also teaming up with the money making scheme cult of 
Scientology?
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Re: [Marxism] Can the Jewish Community Benefit from White Privilege If They Are Targets of White Supremacy?

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This really lost me at:

> No one should make excuses for Minister Farrakhan, but if he should be 
> condemned, then shouldn’t white leaders have to condemn any association with 
> the Southern Baptist Convention, the Presbyterian Church in America or the 
> entire Republican Party?

For one, I would hope someone who is associated with a leader (not simply being 
baptist or presbyterian or catholic) like a Falwell or Dobson would be 
questioned about it if they were part of a progressive movement that is 
antithetical to what is spewed by those men.

Weirdest thing is what Tamika Mallory said that this is written about is the 
more sensible point. She said white people benefit from white privilege.

But this piece then fails to mention any of the other, actually problematic, 
statements said to be by her.

It is true people are wrongly associated with and called to condemn Farrakhan, 
recent example https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/1067893380334723093, but 
this fact shouldn't be used to say associations with Farrakhan, Dobson, Falwell 
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Re: [Marxism] Trans Ideology

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> Philip F.’s piece is a praiseworthy attempt to reject a false identity 
> politics substitute for class politics. 

What in any of this piece is about identity politics?

And what part explains how there is any relation for the worse to class 
politics?

This is a disgusting piece that attempts to act like it is science while mixing 
in insults and fearmongering you find on Fox News, "a gift to predatory males".

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Re: [Marxism] latest gas attack in Syria

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Not knowing the full details I wouldn't have reason to doubt HTS would use 
chlorine. Full details matter though because wasn't there a case of the SAA 
misfiring and strong winds resulting in their own gas coming into government 
controlled areas and they tried to blame rebels?

Are there any other cases of groups like HTS using gas? I can only think of 
daesh use of mustard gas.

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Re: [Marxism] Why Did CIA Turn Against Saudi Crown Prince MBS? It's More than Khashoggi

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I skipped around the video to find what they say it is about. And it boils down 
to the obvious, concern over MBS being wreckless. But they somehow wrap that up 
in a CIA conspiracy and a bit that comes off like Trump should be given credit 
for not just believing the intelligence community. As though he is doing so out 
of anything but a mix of self-interest ("they buy my condos") and ignorance.

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Re: [Marxism] Caitlin Johnstone on Kashoggi murder

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And then there is MoA's odd take: 
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/settling-the-khashoggi-case-will-be-a-difficult-process.html
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Re: [Marxism] A multiple-choice test by the New York Times, answer correctly and you are DSA material | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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I don't know why both sides in the discussion of if violent rebellion will be 
necessary claim Marx believed it was. As I'm sure you know, he was talking 
about the possibility of socialism through "peaceful means" in 1872 
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/09/08.htm

That doesn't mean he was right, but he certainly wasn't of the opinion it was 
impossible by definition.

But more importantly, "commitment to political democracy" does not mean 
anything goes...

I don't understand how socialism without political democracy is supposed to 
even work. Without democracy how is the state one that works in the interests 
of the working class?
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Re: [Marxism] What's behind the explosive growth of the DSA?

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> There's no reason not to do things just because the leadership doesn't want
> to take the initiative.  Everywhere it can be done, people should set up.or
> involve themselves in classes around basic political questions . . . And
> get to know the more militant minded.

This! It is what I do and hope others would do the same.

What good is a split?
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> I see no evidence that DSAers have focused on single payer health insurance
> because part of the Democratic Party made a decision.

Yea.. this is absurd. John, what do you base this on? Is there even evidence of 
the Democratic Party leadership supporting this, let alone making a decision 
that somehow resulted in us voting at the convention to prioritize it?

> > Now, a wing of the Democrats is accepting the "abolish ICE" slogan, so DSA
> > has taken up that slogan.

Other way around. Seems like activists are helping move Democrats (not 
leadership, tho they have to then pretend to agree) to the left. Is this not 
something we should be doing? Ultimately to get them to leave the party and 
organize as socialists, but signs that radicalizing liberals is happening 
sounds like a good thing to me, not a Democrat plot.

This issue can even help with a break from the Bernie Sanders wing that argues 
the best way to help workers is to have closed borders.

> > complete refusal to even hint at the shortcomings of single payer [...] or
> > even a hint at the need for socialized
> > medicine. Why? Because the Democratic Party liberals won't touch that idea.

Internally there is plenty of discussion on the shortcomings. I'm not sure what 
you are looking for.. for us to leading a campaign about how what we are trying 
to get done isn't that great? Certainly it should be discussed, both the 
shortcomings and how it isn't "socialism", but what would be the point of 
hinting at this when trying to win support for single payer?

> > So, what the DSA leadership is doing is using DSA to mobilize millenials
> > (mainly) to campaign for liberal Democrats and their program.

If the Democrat program is now single payer and abolishing ICE, sure. And if 
that is the case then it says something about our success! But even you admit 
this is not their program...

And as Jason mentions, what "DSA leadership"!? Hell, I think this is one of the 
issues, we need a stronger national.

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There is plenty to criticize about attachments to the Democrats, but the idea 
that they are directing our involvement in campaigning for single payer and 
abolishing ICE are not ones.
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Re: [Marxism] DSA: Don't Endorse Cynthia Nixon or any Democrats. Ever.

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> Workers simply will not take you seriously if you
> take that road. And the leadership of DSA (as well as of the unions) know
> this perfectly well.

I think, and know, many would take us less seriously if we refuse to accept 
reality and leave a ballot blank rather than help a Democrat win over a 
Republican. Because there are very real differences made to peoples lives.

If there are really all these candidates who want to run for offices I damn 
well hope this strategy is taken up. Until such candidates are on the ballot, 
I'd  vote an enthusiastic YES for DSA to take up such a strategy and spend 
resources finding candidates and voted and advocated for NPC candidates who 
would make that a reality like Dan La Botz, I disagree on what will have 
workers taking us seriously or not.
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Re: [Marxism] DSA: Don't Endorse Cynthia Nixon or any Democrats. Ever.

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On Mon, Jul 30, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Mark Lause wrote:
> What would be a lot more productive is trying to figure out what the
> hell we need to do to influence events in the concrete.
Agreed! And I don't see how voting for candidates when we still haven't
been able to build and influence events hurts this. It is why I do agree
on endorsements and canvassing for Democrats to be wrong, we shouldn't
be working to build their party.
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Re: [Marxism] DSA: Don't Endorse Cynthia Nixon or any Democrats. Ever.

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> I never implied arguing not to vote. In general, I simply write in some
> names. Other times, I cast a blank ballot
>  But what I do in the voting
> booth is in harmony with what I argue. It would be interesting to hear how
> Tristan (or anybody else) answers the logic, 

I do not understand how selecting the Democrat when voting today, in a race 
with the only options being the candidates on the ballot in anyway harm the 
argument.

Accepting the options given at this specific time is just accepting reality and 
working with it. I just don't see how leaving it blank improves the argument 
that we need a party of the working class.

> And that reaches the heart of the question: *What specific steps in the
> here and now, in the specific concrete situation that we face, does Tristan
> (or anybody else) advocate calling for as a first step towards building a
> working class party? And how can those steps be taken while advocating
> voting for some Democrats?*

I really don't know. But what are the specific steps you do you advocate that 
would be blocked due to having selected a Democrat on a ballot?

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Re: [Marxism] DSA: Don't Endorse Cynthia Nixon or any Democrats. Ever.

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I don't consider an answer of, 'I'm not going to vote', to help the argument.

Nor do I think that it is too complicated to explain selecting the least bad 
option while building for a party that will give us legitimate options.

As you said, it is what we are doing the rest of the time that really matters. 
As socialists we know politics doesn't start and stop with an election. I think 
this is all the more reason that voting for a Democrat when they are the only 
other person on the ballot just doesn't seem like an issue.

Now that I think about how this started though it is a more interesting 
problem. This is about a Democratic primary? I don't know how those work in NY 
but I'd be all for voting Nixon in the primary and Howie in the general :).

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Re: [Marxism] DSA: Don't Endorse Cynthia Nixon… or any Democrats. Ever.

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This kind of falls flat when they bring up SYRIZA. When you argue we need our 
own party instead of relying on the Democrats and then bring up a party that 
was a new party fully of revolutionary socialists, won power and capitulated, 
it speaks to maybe it being a bigger issue than simply a new party, but they 
miss this.

And I am on the side of the DSA that supports a break from the Democratic 
Party. I'm about 85% in favor of saying never endorse a Democrat, but don't 
think this when it comes to voting. When I vote I don't just leave races blank. 
I think boycotting elections is a tactic, not a principle.

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Re: [Marxism] Why the Russia-Trump Collusion Conspiracy Theory Isn’t Catching On

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> I think articles like this are unhelpful and dangerous, and this one is
> certainly full of inaccuracies.

But are hilarious. Ted Rall has to make shit up:

"Trump doesn’t even read one-page memos. Yet we’re being asked to believe that 
he supervised a ridiculously complex Machiavellian conspiracy?"

Who has argued this?

Then of course, yes, the Seth Rich conspiracy which is just disgusting of him 
to traffic in and doesn't really warrant a response.

I think it says a lot about people like Rall when they purposely distort 
everything and ignore detailed evidence (also note that the main "alternative" 
report that people point to as proving it was an inside job proves nothing of 
the sort, but it is easy to write up some computer jargon to convince people 
like Rall).

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Re: [Marxism] Helsinki: Was it "excellent"? Should we care?

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> After corresponding with Louis I got a better understanding of what he was
> writing. However, his piece as it stands could appear to be saying he
> doesn't care about the role of Putin in the last election nor about the
> ties between Putin and Trump. Some people on the left have such a knee jerk
> reaction to all the calls for "patriotism" and to "defend America" that
> they don't consider what's going on here.

I always take issue with the reasoning to not care being the fucked up things 
the US has done abroad. But the people hurt by emboldened white nationalists, 
zero tolerance ICE policy, the increased airstrikes and civilian deaths... had 
nothing to do with US foreign policy.

Yes, electing a Democrat won't fix these issues and neo-liberalism paves the 
way for the reactionary blowback of a Trump, but that doesn't change whether or 
not we should care. And the campaigns to help fascist candidates isn't over, 
now with Bannon heading to Europe to put money and resources behind them as 
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[Marxism] Bannon looking to take advantage of low turnout EU parliament elections

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Re: [Marxism] DSA member Ocasio-Cortez elected (Jason)

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I've waffled. With no working class party and our absurd party and voting 
system, what is someone like Ocasio-Cortez to do? Since there was a Democratic 
primary I take it that the other option would be attempting to run as an 
independent in the general?

An issue I hope we will learn more about when Ocasio-Crotez is in office is how 
fundraising is done. I don't remember the article but I recall reading a 
detailed account of a congress person's day and that it is mostly calling 
donors or going to fundraisers.

The question then is whether or not the person I'm voting for will be doing 
that or refuse, which then means the Democratic party would oppose them, but 
how different would that be from being an independent?

We do need to win over the DSA to dedicate to building a working class party, 
but I don't know that today getting people elected as Democrats will actually 
harm this effort, which has a very long ways to go (hell, it isn't even the 
current DSA's plan), but does potentially lay groundwork through increasing our 
reach.

It is going to be a fight to make a complete break from the Democrats and I 
don't know that the conditions are right yet to make it the highest priority. 
It should

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Re: [Marxism] How Assad's war crimes bring far left and right together - under Putin's benevolent gaze - Opinion - Israel News | Haaretz.com

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If you click on it through their tweet they let you read it 
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/986276854133903362
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Re: [Marxism] Question re pro Assad lefts

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The CPGB-ML actually opposes the slogan "Don't Bomb Syria" because it would 
apply to Russia as well, and they believe Russia's bombs are, "fraternal 
support for the Syrian people".

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Re: [Marxism] Gun regulation,

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> Liberals and the leaders of almost every gun control organization that has 
> help organize or supported
> the recent student demonstrations are indeed anti-gun and want to ban guns, 
> full stop.

Who? Every time I see a liberal politician talk about gun control they start by 
talking about how much they love guns.

Maybe there are organizations pushing for disarming cops, repealing the second 
amendment and a federal buy-back program, but I'm guessing they are very small 
and powerless, if they exist at all.

Which is very much an issue and you claiming that liberal leaders are pushing 
changes that will actually make a difference just helps re-enforce the right 
wings narrative. Except for the ban on semi-automatic weapons. That would make 
a difference in the number of dead kids in school shoots. I have no idea how 
anyone can oppose that. 

Beyond that I don't see liberal leaders offering much to support. They put 
forward crap like focusing on the "terror watch list" or city hand gun bans 
that do nothing because you can simply skip over to the suburbs to pick one up.

The idea that it is more guns that the country needs would be laughable if it 
wasn't so sad and deadly. 

Also, I don't know that DW said this but it is something I often hear, that 
guns will help against police murder. Where does that come from? 

We need socialist gun control organizations that push for disarming cops, not 
socialists seemingly saying the Black men murdered by cops who "thought" they 
had a gun would have been alive if they actually did have guns. 
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Re: [Marxism] Viewpoint magazine on imperialism

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And then there is Patrick Higgins who describes Trump's "you have to take out 
their families" campaign as Trump striking "a posture against Hillary Clinton’s 
full throated support of liberal imperialism": 
https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/02/01/enemy-home-u-s-imperialism-syria/

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Re: [Marxism] the soft tankie line on Iran

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Striking quote in this:

> In the years that followed, a partial counterrevolution unfolded in which 
> repressive capitalist rule was firmly established.

So it wasn't Khomeini who lead a counter-revolution... Instead Khomeini was 
beat back later by the capitalists, resulting in the repression of workers? 

Where did he learn this history...
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Re: [Marxism] New Communists? A reply to Jacobin Magazine

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I finally got around to reading this today to prepare for the jacobin reading 
group I facilitate is this afternoon. Since I facilitate I like to bring not 
just my own opinion but others as well to the discussion.

If I understand your reply correctly it has two main disagreements, first being 
that "Yay revolution! Boo reform!"  is a strawman. I must assume you mean it 
isn't an issue because while there are individuals and organizations that 
aren't interested in engaging in the existing political system, they are so 
tiny as to not be a real issue. And that instead the authors are using this to 
act like they are being the rational actors against the irrational when in fact 
their actual disagreement is on involvement with the Democratic Party, not 
whether to fight for reforms or not.

I must say bringing up Socialist Alternative as the far-left counter-example 
that supports reforms ($15 minimum wage) is a little weird since they were as 
involved with Bernie Sanders as the DSA was, I believe.

So your disagreement is that working in the Democratic Party should be a litmus 
test and that they use a boogey-man of some ultra-leftist cosplayers who want 
to march in the streets with rifles and large overcoats to take control of the 
state today as the supposed only left alternative of working in the Democratic 
Party?

I agree with the need for independence, but also think former Sheriff David 
Clarke is an example f how little using Democrat as your ballot line can mean, 
but won't get into that right now.

One aspect I personally take issue with in their article is the claim 
Communists 'were the most effective reformers, not revolutionaries', as though 
advocating for or implementing reforms makes one a reformer instead of a 
revolutionary. They themselves are making up the idea that revolution is only 
an armed rebellion -- not that those are even mutually exclusive, 
revolutionaries engaged in reform today might take up arms tomorrow. 

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[Marxism] What Democrats can learn from the Democratic Socialists about rebuilding the left

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I'm not a fan of the title... but the substance of the article is on DSA DC's 
tenants’ rights campaign:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/12/20/16798026/rebuild-left-democratic-party-democratic-socialists-tenant-rights

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Re: [Marxism] These Sex Scandals Are Pushing The Country Further To The Right | Washington Babylon

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But the campaign has pushed WSWS and David North to fully embrace the
"men's rights" movement's rhetoric:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/12/09/pers-d09.html 

And here he is using Geraldo Rivera's complaint that we are
"criminalizing courtship":

"The all-inclusive and reckless use of the term “sexual harassment” has
the effect of obscuring the chasm between the amorphous catch-all called
the “unwanted advance” (request for a date, complimenting another person
for his or her looks, and, heaven forbid, indicating sexual interest)
with a physically violent assault."

A common "men's rights" tactic: "The “Me Too” movement seems not to have
noticed the fact that roughly 40,000 men died from opioid overdoses in
2016"

"The motto that animates the struggle for human progress is not “Me Too”
but “Workers of the World Unite.”'

So it has pushed some further to the right! (I kid, North has always
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: How a Socialist Beat One of Virginia’s Most Powerful Republicans | New Republic

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> 50 years of stability? Tell that to the people of Korea, Vietnam, 
> the Dominican Republic, Cuba, and the people living in Hiroshima and 
> Nagasaki.

He explicitly says "*this* country" ;). Which sort of makes the
statement even worse...

It seems like more evidence of the lack of internationalism on the US
left. And when internationalism is spoken of, even now in sections of
the DSA, it is said to stand for siding with dictators against the
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Re: [Marxism] On China and Michael Roberts

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> In general, I consider Michael Roberts to be an excellent economist, 
> producing a lot of useful and serious material. But on China, he clearly 
> wrong. China is not a deformed workers state but an emerging imperialist 
> power.

He doesn't say it is a deformed workers state, does he? He only argues
that the main production is not based on capitalist laws. There must be
some way he can describe such an autocratic state besides a capitalist
state or a deformed workers state?
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Destroying a Nation: The Civil War in Syria: Nikolaos van Dam: 9781784537975: Amazon.com: Books

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Are you implying this is a book worth reading?

I was caught off guard when I then saw in the reviews section:

'[A] monumental work on Syrian power politics' - Robert Fisk

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Rachel Maddow: Trump’s TV Nemesis | The New Yorker

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And then this happens:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rachel-maddow-niger-travel-ban_us_59ea060fe4b05b4f1c3ad52f?ncid=inblnkushpmg0009

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Re: [Marxism] shooting in Las Vegas

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> Gun control *politically* has very right wing and racist origins:
> The (Really, Really) Racist History Of Gun Control In America

Yes, this is true, but what does it say about whether there should or
shouldn't be controls on access to the type of weaponry used in Las
Vegas? It is important history, for more reasons than just gun control,
but our racist criminal "justice" system in general, and should inform
how any changes are approached, but should not shut down the discussion
on the need for controls like it so often does and is used to do on the
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Re: [Marxism] shooting in Las Vegas

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On Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 03:59 PM, Chris Slee wrote:
> Some left groups oppose gun control on the grounds that workers and
> oppressed groups need to be armed to resist the violence of the state
> and right-wing groups.
I know. And there are instances that can be pointed to in US history
that prove their use as a deterrent. The first that come to mind are
stories I read in Hammer and Hoe. But that was almost 100 years ago,
when a single shooter from the 32nd floor 400 yards away couldn't shoot
500 people.
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Re: [Marxism] shooting in Las Vegas

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> not joining the reactionary funded liberal "gun control groups"

Also funny that you say that after a rant that sounds like many a
liberal rant about people deserving no sympathy for being shot or losing
health insurance, while removing the human face of such tragedies
https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/914970181994029056 
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Re: [Marxism] shooting in Las Vegas

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> disarm the populace but not the government repressive forces.  

Why not both?
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Re: [Marxism] Trotsky on the white worker

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What does Trotsky mean by "separate" here? Did Trotsky not agree with Du
Bois and not Garvey?

I know Stalinists love to share Du Bois' attacks on Trotsky... But
didn't know if they disagreed on this issue. 

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Kap, Cops and Confederate Statues: a Better World Without Double Standards

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Right, he was not removed -- but I wouldn't say that you can't consider
it still being driven out.

But I don't think it relates to this, in part because his behavior
during the whole thing ended up being the main reason I thought he
shouldn't be in leadership. I didn't vote for him, taking issue with his
opinion for orientation with the Democratic Party, and afterward took
issue with his not mentioning CLEAT in his statements that year, but
reading his later statements and hearing about his interactions with
comrades after the election became as much a concern as the rest for
many of us.
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Re: [Marxism] Imperialism: a critique of David Harvey

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> Chinese corporations are investing in mines in Africa and Latin America

And military bases in Africa and the Middle East.
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: We’ll Beat the Fascists With Ideas, Not Fists - In These Times

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Kind of funny that the article says:

"The Left will lose in a battle of physical force because it has the
smallest force"

Under a photo with caption:

"In Boston August 19, over 40,000 counter-demonstrators surrounded a
minuscule white nationalist rally."

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[Marxism] The Case for Solidarity with the Syrian Revolution

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http://www.dsausa.org/the_case_for_solidarity_with_the_syrian_revolution_dl

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: bellingcat - Will Get Fooled Again - Seymour Hersh, Welt, and the Khan Sheikhoun Chemical Attack - bellingcat

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Hm, I wonder if the LRB actually decided against it after reading
Hersh's source,
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905618/We-got-a-fuckin-problem.html
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Re: [Marxism] Comey Firing: US a "Failing State"

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> how am I supposed to care exactly?…

Your criteria for whether you should or shouldn't care about something
seems to hinge on whether liberals do or don't.

Well that and not wanting to consider beyond, "The FBI is bad... so
firing of an FBI person is good?"

> If Obama had fired the head of the FBI what would the reaction have been? 
> (the answer is nothing.)

You are right. But I also suspect that many on the left who can't seem
to care about Trump's executive branch would have been.

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Postol's "analysis" is so confusing to me that I have to ask if this is
really the report he is critiquing
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/11/world/middleeast/document-Syria-Chemical-Weapons-Report-White-House.html

Is there another report I can't find?

His argument, and the one picked up the most by others it seems and he
expands on in an addendum, is that the "sarin canister" in the crater
shows clear evidence it was not dropped from a plane in a bomb but
instead had an explosive laid up against it on the street.

The problem is, I can't find anywhere in the report that claims the tube
in the crater was the "sarin canister".

Am I missing something or is Postol really arguing against himself?

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Re: [Marxism] Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton on Chris Hedges Show re: Syria

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It is unwatchable. I did skip around the video the other day and one
horrendous line I heard was from Blumenthal where he is talking about
the White Helmets and says they are "the civil administration for Al
Qaeda".

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[Marxism] What Tillerson actually said

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I'm seeing a lot of people online claiming Tillerson has said they are
going to forcefully remove Assad. His actual statement was much the same
policy we've been hearing for years:

1) Defeat ISIS
2) Stabilize Syria
3) Political transition from Assad -- which doesn't necessarily even
clash with Tillerson's statement days ago and John Kerry's response to
Syrians telling them they'll have to vote out Assad.

https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/850060992822128640

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Re: [Marxism] reformists back Assadist forum

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It says my comment has to be approved...

The DSA needs a new statement on Syria, we haven't had one in years.
This is being discussed and will specifically make it clear not only who
we stand in solidarity with but also address the disinformation campaign
by some on the left, meaning associating with an event like this is
counter to where the DSA stands nationally.

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Re: [Marxism] Didn't Patrick Cockburn say the war in Syria was over?

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Forgot to link to the source:
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/R-SANA/SANA-Dispatch5-Syria-armed-opposition.pdf

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Re: [Marxism] Didn't Patrick Cockburn say the war in Syria was over?

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Right, that is the case with nationalist jihadist militias that have
access to weapons. They still have to be fighting the same enemy.

It is also why FSA militias would fight along side Nusra. If an armed
group is making progress in fighting the regime and you sit it out, how
does that look to potential recruits? And has been a detriment to any
group accepting Western assistance:

"In the formation of strategic alliances, moderate armed groups face
restrictions due to their reliance on Western donors. As they cannot
formally participate in coalitions that include controversial groups
such as JAN, moderate armed groups have limited opportunities to
increase their military effectiveness through coordination with other
armed groups.[32] Yet, with every military success of coalitions in
which the FSA does not have a visible role, such as the takeover of
Idlib city, the image of moderate factions as a weakening force is
reinforced, making them less attractive to potential recruits."

Just trying to understand the makeup of the current offensive. I haven't
read any detailed reporting/surveys since 2016, and their content was
based on 2014/2015 I think.

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Re: [Marxism] Didn't Patrick Cockburn say the war in Syria was over?

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So it is the FSA? pro-Assad media is reporting the attacks are Tahrir
Al-Sham (Hetesh). Who my understanding had been doing more fighting
against then fighting alongside FSA formations than say former Nusra?
Even though HTS is still a "nationalist jihadist" org unlike daesh?

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Re: [Marxism] The Truth About the WikiLeaks C.I.A. Cache

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> Wouldn't we trust Snowden more on this?
 
Yes, and no. Both can be true. I had a similar issue with the headlines
that the NYTimes article is talking about, but wouldn't take it as far
as the article to act like it encompasses the actual information
contained in the leaks.

The headlines made it sound like Signal and others were compromised.
This isn't the case, the phones are compromised. 

There is actually another NYTimes article that sort of explains this,
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/03/11/technology/ap-us-tec-wikileaks-cia-tech-encryption.html

It is important both to not claim such methods "break Signal" or to give
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Re: [Marxism] petition to Noam Chomsky from Idrees Ahmad re: Rania Khalek

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Considering the "Faurisson affair", Chomsky was the only name in the
list who I thought might not be being a hypocrite.

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[Marxism] Syria regime, rebels committed war crimes in Aleppo: UN

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https://www.afp.com/en/news/23/syria-regime-rebels-committed-war-crimes-aleppo-un

"The scale of what happened in Aleppo is unprecedented in the Syrian
conflict", COI chairman Paulo Pinheiro told reporters in Geneva.

The Syrian air force and its Russian ally "conducted daily air strikes"
on Aleppo, an iconic city that was once the country's economic capital
but has now been reduced to rubble, the COI said.

There is conclusive evidence that Syrian aircraft dropped "toxic
industrial chemicals, including chlorine", the inquiry found. However,
no information indicates the Russians used chemical weapons, it added. 

The bombardments saw hospitals, markets and residential buildings
repeatedly hit.

In a major new finding, investigators also said there was proof that
Damascus was responsible for September 19 air strikes in Aleppo province
that deliberately targeted a humanitarian convoy, killing at least 10
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[Marxism] Why I Became a Socialist

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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/why-i-became-a-socialist?utm_source=vicetwitterus

Another article on the people new to socialism who have joined the DSA.
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Jaco in the bin | s0metim3s

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This is full of stretches:

"The editors of Jacobin had already announced their intention to press
for more voluble support for border controls, in various contexts and
articles."

This sentences links to the article by Sam Gindin where he says, "To
simply assert the righteousness of fully open borders in the present
context of economic insecurity cannot help but elicit a backlash and
will ultimately do little for refugees and future immigrants". I
completely disagree with Gindin's argument that we shouldn't continue to
stand firmly behind open borders, but his article is not the editors of
Jacobin announcing anything at all.

The same goes for the Die Linke article, proper link:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/die-linke-germany-sahra-wagenknecht-immigration-xenophobia-afd/

Thinking these views reflect the opinion of the editors of Jacobin is
wrong. This doesn't mean there shouldn't be push back when they publish
articles we disagree with, they can always do better. Their articles on
Syria are a clear case of publishing absolute shit for a period and then
turning it around.
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[Marxism] Oprah gives tape with Puzder abuse allegations to Senate

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/susan-collins-andrew-puzder-oprah-tape-allegations-234964

It has been an uphill battle for Puzder.

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Re: [Marxism] Fukushima hasn't gone away

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> “Sievert” is one of the many terms of mystification used to prevent
> most people from fully understanding radiation.


Calling an international standard unit a "term of mystification" with
some sinister purpose to keep people in the dark should be enough to
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[Marxism] Rolling Stone: How Democratic Socialists Are Building on Bernie's Momentum

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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-democratic-socialists-are-building-on-bernies-momentum-w465452

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Re: [Marxism] Tech Opposition to Trump Propelled by Employees, Not Executives

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> Here's the notes from the December meeting of Tech Solidarity, which was
> discussed in the article:
> https://nyc.techsolidarity.org/2016/12/18/meeting_notes.htm
> Looks like a great group with connections to socialist, antiracist etc.
> movements.
> Makes me ashamed I hadn't heard of them! :)

Yup! Lots of DSA members involved too I believe. It is talked about a
lot in our "tech" channel, which has over 200 people idling in it
nationally. I haven't been to an actual solidarity meeting since I'm in
San Diego but may have to look at putting something together here myself
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Re: [Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: Socialists In Coal Country Meet Up To Organize Against Trump - Vocativ

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What is the name of the network? I know we, DSA, has chapters in the
area that would likely want to take part -- if they aren't already, I'm
reaching out to them now to find out.

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Re: [Marxism] Bhaskar Sunkara: Our Alternative

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Interesting. 

I'm happy to be in the Mensheviks while the alternatives are the toy
models we see running around today.

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Re: [Marxism] Bhaskar Sunkara: Our Alternative

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I don't see how this is comparable to Browderism or what is
objectionable about it.

The Sanders campaign has created a huge uptick in new membership to
multiple existing socialist orgs. Obviously the challenge with such an
influx of people is to not let the organizations drift to the right as a
result but to turn the new members, those who aren't already, into
committed socialists. This is a challenge I prefer to continuing as tiny
sects of committed socialists -- and is why I've take the role of
heading the education committee of our local chapter.

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Re: [Marxism] A new workers party: "Blueprint" or Perspectives?

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> I'm game for trying  anything anytime that does not involve creating a
> new bible. I have serious doubts our heretofore sectarian grouplets will
> somehow overcome themselves, but life always has a tendency to surprise
> you.
> 
> I remain looking . . . revolutionaries sometimes are marked by our
> patience rather than our impatience.
> 
> 
> Mark : "I'm sure that several of us who have no organizational dog in
> this fight would be quite happy to help ease this process . . . entirely
> informally and with no formal assignment or title or credit.  We just
> want this thing done."

Upping this thread in hopes to keep tabs on these alliances others
become aware of and to keep dialogue going on how to make them
successful.

There is a Left Alliance being formed in San Diego that I only learned
about today but will be attending an organizing meeting on Sunday, here
are their points of unity
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7QQitpO1VY6RGtwYk5hZ0V0Q00/view

I learned about it from an ISO members who will be attending, but I am
not sure what other organizations are taking part yet.

In Brooklyn the DSA and ISO are working together
http://www.internationalsocialist.org/building-a-socialist-left-under-trump-public-meeting-in-new-york-city

I've reached out to the ISO here in San Diego and will be meeting with
them tonight to discuss moving forward with organizing together.
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Re: [Marxism] Full-page ad in the NY Times

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Related to this, Cornel West and Carl Dix will be on the O'Reilly Factor
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Re: [Marxism] A new workers party: "Blueprint" or Perspectives?

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> mean actually putting together something that would involve regular joint
> work around a few issues.  There is no reason this wasn't done years ago,
> but the sooner the better.

This is exactly what I've wanted to see. Various groups work together
around certain movements and actions at the local level, but I've never
known of any attempt at a permanent association.

I was in the ISO and now am DSA and believe the potential is there
(including SA, Solidarity and others), but I've never known where to
start, besides bringing it up with others any chance I get.

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Re: [Marxism] A new workers party: "Blueprint" or Perspectives?

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> The American class struggle will dictate both the program and the 
> organizational forms we use

While this is true, understanding the layers of obstacles built into the
US electoral system is important for making strategic decisions in these
organizations.

I think he actually, in a way, argues the same as you:

"Through a process of natural selection, such obstacles tend to repel
serious and experienced local politicians and organizers, while
disproportionately attracting activists with a certain mentality:
disdainful of practical politics or concrete results; less interested in
organizing, or even winning elections, than in bearing witness to the
injustice of the two-party system through the symbolic ritual of
inscribing a third-party’s name on the ballot."

To me this reads as saying that parties focused on dealing with these
obstacles for ballot access and legal legitimacy as a "political party"
become all about dealing with these intricacies instead of the class
struggle.

So instead of subjecting the party to the organizational form and
guidelines laid out by the federal government, let them evolve from the
actual struggle.

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Re: [Marxism] The true Fidel Castro

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It isn't about Castro himself or the revolution, but I found Visions of
Freedom (http://www.uncpress.unc.edu/browse/book_detail?title_id=3458)
to be an amazing book.

And ones I can't yet vouch for myself:

A Hidden History of the Cuban Revolution: How the Working Class Shaped
the Guerrillas’ Victory by Steve Cushion
A History of the Cuban Revolution by Aviva Chomsky
The Cuba Reader: History, Culture, Politics Edited by Aviva Chomsky,
Barry Carr and Pamela Maria Smorkaloff

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Re: [Marxism] Rania Khalek in Jacobin?

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It could have been a lot worse. The part that had me really upset that
the editors didn't push back on is the claim that it is a myth that
Qaddafi would commit a massacre in Benghazi.

This "myth" claim seems to be solely based on the fact that Qaddafi said
they'd only target rebels... Not surprising that people like Khalek and
Norton who think Assad and Russia are targeting rebels would take this
to have been sincere.

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