subject:"Re\: \[NTG\-context\] mkiv"

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2022-04-02 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context

On 4/2/22 09:40, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> [..]
> and how about
>
> context --luatex --generate

Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

I’m afraid it doesn’t work. It still generates data under
$HOME/.texlive2021/, but it tries to read data (to generate the format
file) from $HOME/backup-context/01062022_context/, which is a backup I
have, instead of $HOME/context (which is the actual directory where
ConTeXt is installed).

Even with the HOME/backup-context/ directory hidden, I get the following
error when Irun "context --luatex document" (after having run "context
--luatex --generate"):

system  > lua > loading of file
'context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-exe.lua' failed:
cannot open
context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-exe.lua: No such
file or directory
resolvers   > lua > loading file
'context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-exe.lua' failed

error loading file: luat-exe.lua (aborting)resolvers   | formats |
resolvers   | formats | binary path  : /usr/bin
resolvers   | formats | format path  :
/home/ousia/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/formats/luatex
resolvers   | formats | luatex engine: luatex
resolvers   | formats | lua startup file :
/home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua
resolvers   | formats | context file :
/home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv
resolvers   | formats | run time : 0.100 seconds
resolvers   | formats | return value : okay
resolvers   | formats |
mtx-context | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting
system  | total runtime: 1.505 seconds

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2022-04-02 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context


On 4/1/2022 9:19 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

Same here... I haven't managed to run mkiv for months. Not a huge deal, but 
anyway.

Best,
Denis

Von: ntg-context  im Auftrag von Pablo Rodriguez via 
ntg-context 
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. April 2022 20:37:30
An: Hans Hagen via ntg-context
Cc: Pablo Rodriguez
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

On 4/1/22 18:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

[...]
So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.


Just a comment on MkIV.

I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex
document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or
Windows) for months now.

This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you.

If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory
'$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache"
directory inside)

When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in
"$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache".

I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache"
directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache".


and how about

context --luatex --generate


BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only
contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path.

Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2022-04-01 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context

Same here... I haven't managed to run mkiv for months. Not a huge deal, but 
anyway.

Best,
Denis

Von: ntg-context  im Auftrag von Pablo Rodriguez 
via ntg-context 
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. April 2022 20:37:30
An: Hans Hagen via ntg-context
Cc: Pablo Rodriguez
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

On 4/1/22 18:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> [...]
> So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.

Just a comment on MkIV.

I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex
document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or
Windows) for months now.

This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you.

If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory
'$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache"
directory inside)

When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in
"$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache".

I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache"
directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache".

BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only
contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path.

Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2022-04-01 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context

On 4/1/22 18:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> [...]
> So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.

Just a comment on MkIV.

I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex
document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or
Windows) for months now.

This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you.

If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory
'$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache"
directory inside)

When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in
"$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache".

I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache"
directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache".

BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only
contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path.

Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2022-04-01 Thread Rik Kabel via ntg-context



On 2022-04-01 12:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,

Normally when we're in the 2022 TeXlive code freeze period, there is a 
snapshot release but because there hasn't been that many changes, 
maybe a few patches, in MKIV there is no real snapshot this year. But 
for the sake of consistency we can consider today's version that 
snapshot.


It basically means that MKIV has been frozen and is even more frozen 
now. All new stuff goes in MKXL (aka LMTX) and I suppose that next 
year we let that end up in TeXlive alongside frozen MKII and MKIV. Of 
course bugs will be fixed as usual.


So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV.

Hans


With the freeze of MKIV, how will modules be managed? LMTX still ships 
without. A while back 
(https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg100179.html) it was 
suggest that this would, at some point, change.


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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-19 Thread Jörg Hofmann via ntg-context


It works. I don't know why, but it works now.


Best wishes
Jörg

Am 18.10.21 um 17:27 schrieb Jörg Hofmann via ntg-context:



Am 04.10.21 um 15:33 schrieb Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context:

We are busy with this off-list.

If it is urgent:

  luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate

fixed it for me (you’ll need to adjust the path, of course)

Best wishes,
Taco


But not for me. :(

After I set up my PC again, Linux Mint 20.1 Cinnamon, I also 
reinstalled ConTeXt and since then I have been experiencing the error.

Are there any further steps?

Besst wishes
Jörg




On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:28, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via 
ntg-context  wrote:

Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.26 17:00

Greetings

Marcus Vinicius

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via 
ntg-context  wrote:


Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen:

On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,
since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of install.sh 
(and mtxrun --generate, of course).
It’s the same on my Mac and my Linux laptop (of course the bin dir is different 
on the latter):
$ context --version
mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file: 
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
mtx-context | main context file: 
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
$ context --version --luatex
mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly 
"/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua" --script mtx-context 
--version --luatex --redirected
mtxrun  | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'
$ which context
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/context
$ which luatex
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luatex
$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)
...
$ mtxrun --version
mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.32
mtxrun  | source path
I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it isn’t.
It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so that a 
call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.

works here ... maybe a --generate issue?

I re-ran the install script with a shell ("sh install.sh" instead just ". install.sh"), 
but that doesn’t change the "unknown script" issue.

"mtxrun --generate" seems to work without problems; or do you see something 
suspicious in the attached log?

Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-18 Thread Jörg Hofmann via ntg-context



Am 04.10.21 um 15:33 schrieb Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context:

We are busy with this off-list.

If it is urgent:

  luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate

fixed it for me (you’ll need to adjust the path, of course)

Best wishes,
Taco


But not for me. :(

After I set up my PC again, Linux Mint 20.1 Cinnamon, I also reinstalled 
ConTeXt and since then I have been experiencing the error.

Are there any further steps?

Besst wishes
Jörg






On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:28, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context 
 wrote:

Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.26 17:00

Greetings

Marcus Vinicius

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
 wrote:


Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen :

On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,
since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of install.sh 
(and mtxrun --generate, of course).
It’s the same on my Mac and my Linux laptop (of course the bin dir is different 
on the latter):
$ context --version
mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file: 
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
mtx-context | main context file: 
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
$ context --version --luatex
mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly 
"/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua" --script mtx-context 
--version --luatex --redirected
mtxrun  | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'
$ which context
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/context
$ which luatex
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luatex
$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)
...
$ mtxrun --version
mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.32
mtxrun  | source path
I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it isn’t.
It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so that a 
call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.

works here ... maybe a --generate issue?

I re-ran the install script with a shell ("sh install.sh" instead just ". install.sh"), 
but that doesn’t change the "unknown script" issue.

"mtxrun --generate" seems to work without problems; or do you see something 
suspicious in the attached log?

Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context

Thank you, Taco

Your suggestion resolved the issue for me.

Regards

Marcus Vinicius

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:50 AM Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here is what I assume has happened:
>
> Hans gave LMTX its own "luametatex-cache” directory (around August 20).
> Previously, the cache for LMTX still used files under luatex-cache, just
> like MKIV. But since that change, the “context -—generate” call no longer
> updates files in luatex-cache, only in luametatex-cache.
>
>
> That is not a big problem unless something happens to clear any existing
> cache in that folder (like a re-install from scratch, say).
>
> Normally, one runs “context —-generate” to fix the cache and “context
> —-luatex” to run luatex Combined, that would be
>   “context —-generate —-luatex”.
> But the problem is that luatex cannot find “mtx-context.lua” exactly
> because of the missing cache that we are actually trying to create with
> that command line. Missing “mtx-context.lua” is usually fixed by running
> the more basic “mtxrun —generate”.
>
> However, “mtxrun -—generate”  does not currently support a "-—luatex”
> argument, so the only way I know of right now to get the luatex-cache
> restored|updated is to run the command below.
>
> (Incidentally, this sort of issue is why the core command is not “context
> -—generate” but “mtxrun -—generate”. It is unfortunate that that does not
> help in this case).
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
> > On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:33, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >
> > We are busy with this off-list.
> >
> > If it is urgent:
> >
> > luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate
> >
> > fixed it for me (you’ll need to adjust the path, of course)
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Taco
> >
> >> On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:28, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.26
> 17:00
> >>
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Marcus Vinicius
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> >>>
> >>> On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>  Hi,
>  since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of
> install.sh (and mtxrun --generate, of course).
>
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>
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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context

Hi,

Here is what I assume has happened:

Hans gave LMTX its own "luametatex-cache” directory (around August 20). 
Previously, the cache for LMTX still used files under luatex-cache, just like 
MKIV. But since that change, the “context -—generate” call no longer updates 
files in luatex-cache, only in luametatex-cache. 

That is not a big problem unless something happens to clear any existing cache 
in that folder (like a re-install from scratch, say). 

Normally, one runs “context —-generate” to fix the cache and “context —-luatex” 
to run luatex Combined, that would be 
  “context —-generate —-luatex”. 
But the problem is that luatex cannot find “mtx-context.lua” exactly because of 
the missing cache that we are actually trying to create with that command line. 
Missing “mtx-context.lua” is usually fixed by running the more basic “mtxrun 
—generate”.

However, “mtxrun -—generate”  does not currently support a "-—luatex” argument, 
so the only way I know of right now to get the luatex-cache restored|updated is 
to run the command below.

(Incidentally, this sort of issue is why the core command is not “context 
-—generate” but “mtxrun -—generate”. It is unfortunate that that does not help 
in this case).

Best wishes,
Taco

> On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:33, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context  
> wrote:
> 
> We are busy with this off-list.
> 
> If it is urgent: 
> 
> luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate
> 
> fixed it for me (you’ll need to adjust the path, of course)
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:28, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Marcus Vinicius
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>>> 
>>> On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
 Hi,
 since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of 
 install.sh (and mtxrun --generate, of course).

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context


> Am 04.10.2021 um 15:33 schrieb Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> We are busy with this off-list.
> 
> If it is urgent: 
> 
> luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate
> 
> fixed it for me (you’ll need to adjust the path, of course)

For me too, while it didn’t work with an absolute path, i.e.

~/lmtx/tex/...  was ok, while
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/... was not!

Strange...

Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context

We are busy with this off-list.

If it is urgent: 

 luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate

fixed it for me (you’ll need to adjust the path, of course)

Best wishes,
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> On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:28, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Marcus Vinicius
> 
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> > 
> > On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of 
> >> install.sh (and mtxrun --generate, of course).
> >> It’s the same on my Mac and my Linux laptop (of course the bin dir is 
> >> different on the latter):
> >> $ context --version
> >> mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
> >> mtx-context |
> >> mtx-context | main context file: 
> >> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
> >> mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
> >> mtx-context | main context file: 
> >> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
> >> mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
> >> $ context --version --luatex
> >> mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly 
> >> "/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua" --script mtx-context 
> >> --version --luatex --redirected
> >> mtxrun  | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'
> >> $ which context
> >> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/context
> >> $ which luatex
> >> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luatex
> >> $ luatex --version
> >> This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)
> >> ...
> >> $ mtxrun --version
> >> mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.32
> >> mtxrun  | source path
> >> I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it 
> >> isn’t.
> >> It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so that 
> >> a call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.
> > works here ... maybe a --generate issue?
> 
> I re-ran the install script with a shell ("sh install.sh" instead just ". 
> install.sh"), but that doesn’t change the "unknown script" issue.
> 
> "mtxrun --generate" seems to work without problems; or do you see something 
> suspicious in the attached log?
> 
> Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context

Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.26 17:00

Greetings

Marcus Vinicius

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
> > Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> >
> > On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of
> install.sh (and mtxrun --generate, of course).
> >> It’s the same on my Mac and my Linux laptop (of course the bin dir is
> different on the latter):
> >> $ context --version
> >> mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
> >> mtx-context |
> >> mtx-context | main context file:
> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
> >> mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
> >> mtx-context | main context file:
> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
> >> mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
> >> $ context --version --luatex
> >> mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly
> "/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua" --script mtx-context
> --version --luatex --redirected
> >> mtxrun  | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or
> 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'
> >> $ which context
> >> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/context
> >> $ which luatex
> >> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luatex
> >> $ luatex --version
> >> This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)
> >> ...
> >> $ mtxrun --version
> >> mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.32
> >> mtxrun  | source path
> >> I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it
> isn’t.
> >> It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so
> that a call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.
> > works here ... maybe a --generate issue?
>
> I re-ran the install script with a shell ("sh install.sh" instead just ".
> install.sh"), but that doesn’t change the "unknown script" issue.
>
> "mtxrun --generate" seems to work without problems; or do you see
> something suspicious in the attached log?
>
> Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context


> Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hi,
>> since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of 
>> install.sh (and mtxrun --generate, of course).
>> It’s the same on my Mac and my Linux laptop (of course the bin dir is 
>> different on the latter):
>> $ context --version
>> mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
>> mtx-context |
>> mtx-context | main context file: 
>> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
>> mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
>> mtx-context | main context file: 
>> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
>> mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
>> $ context --version --luatex
>> mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly 
>> "/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua" --script mtx-context 
>> --version --luatex --redirected
>> mtxrun  | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'
>> $ which context
>> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/context
>> $ which luatex
>> /Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luatex
>> $ luatex --version
>> This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)
>> ...
>> $ mtxrun --version
>> mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.32
>> mtxrun  | source path
>> I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it isn’t.
>> It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so that a 
>> call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.
> works here ... maybe a --generate issue?

I re-ran the install script with a shell ("sh install.sh" instead just ". 
install.sh"), but that doesn’t change the "unknown script" issue.

"mtxrun --generate" seems to work without problems; or do you see something 
suspicious in the attached log?

Hraban



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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context


> Am 04.10.2021 um 13:20 schrieb Taco Hoekwater :
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2021, at 12:39, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it isn’t.
>> 
>> It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so that a 
>> call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.
> 
> That is why I always run “sh install.sh” instead of executing the script 
> directly.

I always ran ". install.sh", i.e. "source install.sh"; calling a shell solves 
the PATH issue. Thanks for the hint!


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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context



> On 4 Oct 2021, at 12:39, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it isn’t.
> 
> It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so that a 
> call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.

That is why I always run “sh install.sh” instead of executing the script 
directly.

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV missing?

2021-10-04 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context


On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,
since a while, I can’t run MkIV any more, even after several runs of install.sh 
(and mtxrun --generate, of course).
It’s the same on my Mac and my Linux laptop (of course the bin dir is different 
on the latter):

$ context --version
mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file: 
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00
mtx-context | main context file: 
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
mtx-context | current version: 2021.09.26 17:00

$ context --version --luatex
mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly 
"/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua" --script mtx-context 
--version --luatex --redirected
mtxrun  | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'

$ which context
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/context

$ which luatex
/Users/hraban/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luatex

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)
...

$ mtxrun --version
mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.32
mtxrun  | source path



I thought that was related to the server/provider move, but I guess it isn’t.

It’s a bit annoying that install.sh leaves ~/lmtx/bin in the PATH, so that a 
call to mtxrun can’t find any configuration.

works here ... maybe a --generate issue?

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV ansi/ansilog

2021-08-25 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context


On 8/25/2021 6:05 PM, Adam Reviczky via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,

I have been using the ansi and ansilog flags in the past and they work 
fine with lmtx, but do not seem to make a difference with luatex/mkiv. 
(There was a thread back in 2019: 
https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/095666.html 
)


I am trying just a simple hello world:

\starttext
Hello World!
\stoptext

 From the latest lmtx install (2021.08.24 22:16) on an ubuntu 64bit live 
system:


These give the desired color output for lmtx
context --ansi test.tex
context --ansilog test.tex

But with luatex, these make no difference in the stdout (no ansi colors)
context --luatex --ansi test.tex
context --luatex --ansilog test.tex
probably because i need to pass then differently (they need to kick in 
very early)


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV format generation error with latest 2021-02-17 13:33

2021-02-17 Thread Hans Hagen


On 2/17/2021 7:23 PM, Adam Reviczky wrote:

Hi,

I am getting the following error with luatex/mkiv with today's latest:

hm, looks like some split / file mixup .. i'll upload a new zip tomorrow

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and LMTX difference in comma list expansion

2020-10-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Rik Kabel schrieb am 26.10.2020 um 17:34:

Hello list,

Another difference, perhaps the result of my lack of knowledge, but a 
difference.


The following example produces different results for the fourth 
sequence, with the index being passed one item under MkIV and two items 
under LMTX.


(The code is stripped out of a much more complex bit to show the issue.)

[...]

Did I misuse the comma list processing, or is this a bug?


Probably something we missed when the comma list processor was 
rewritten. In the example below the braces are stripped when there is 
only a single element (first and second list).


\def\CommalistEntry#1{\ruledhbox{\strut#1}}

\starttext

\dontleavehmode\processcommalist[{aaa}]\CommalistEntry

\dontleavehmode\processcommalist[{aaa,bbb}]\CommalistEntry

\dontleavehmode\processcommalist[{ccc,ddd},{eee,fff}]\CommalistEntry

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV - LMTX difference: stripping of leading white space in verbatim text

2020-09-03 Thread Christoph Reller

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 5:53 AM Wolfgang Schuster <
wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Christoph Reller schrieb am 03.09.2020 um 05:29:
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I am using ConTeXt LMTX 2018.05.19 21:46. Consider the following MWE:
> >
> > \starttext
> > \startLUA
> >  whatever
> > \stopLUA
> > \stoptext
> >
> > In contrast to ConTeXt MKIV, the leading four spaces in front of
> > "whatever" are not removed when processing the verbatim text:
> >
> > MKIV output:
> > whatever
> >
> > LMTX output:
> >  whatever
> >
> > Is there a way to get the old MKIV behavior back?
>
> \setuptyping[LUA][strip=yes]


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV - LMTX difference: stripping of leading white space in verbatim text

2020-09-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Christoph Reller schrieb am 03.09.2020 um 05:29:

Dear List,

I am using ConTeXt LMTX 2018.05.19 21:46. Consider the following MWE:

\starttext
\startLUA
     whatever
\stopLUA
\stoptext

In contrast to ConTeXt MKIV, the leading four spaces in front of 
"whatever" are not removed when processing the verbatim text:


MKIV output:
whatever

LMTX output:
     whatever

Is there a way to get the old MKIV behavior back?


\setuptyping[LUA][strip=yes]

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV to LMTX (enumerations)

2020-05-31 Thread Hans Hagen


On 5/31/2020 10:59 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

There is nothing you can do here except waiting for a fix but I noticed 
the location key for framedtext has a not existing value (no paragraph 
option exists) in your example.

Indeed an engine issue. Fixed in next upload.

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV to LMTX (enumerations)

2020-05-31 Thread Hans Hagen


On 5/31/2020 10:59 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

There is nothing you can do here except waiting for a fix but I noticed 


I assume you come up with the fix

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV to LMTX (enumerations)

2020-05-31 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Weber, Matthias schrieb am 30.05.2020 um 21:18:

Dear List,

After staying with a frozen MKIV version for time-critical work for a 
while, I took the plunge and ran one of my longer math-heavy documents 
through LMTX. To my delight, it mostly looks fine or trivially fixable.
There is one problem I have with enumerations. The spacing between 
them in LMTX is notoriously smaller than in MKIV.


No, it's a problem with framedtext which uses the wrong placement option 
and ignores the before/after values.


I bet there is a parameter I can set to tweak that? Below is a MWE 
with output for both engines.

Thanks!


There is nothing you can do here except waiting for a fix but I noticed 
the location key for framedtext has a not existing value (no paragraph 
option exists) in your example.


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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv digits/units zero padding not working

2020-05-07 Thread Benjamin Buchmuller

Following up on the work-around, here is my improved code for xtable.

What doesn’t work is:

* alignment on the decimal separator takes place only in the first column with 
decimals (i.e. B), not on the  following one; this is independent of R1 having 
a decimal value in this column or not

* row spanning is now tricky since the width of the header column is taken for 
the first of the three rows spanned, which becomes even more complicated with 
option=stretch, I guess if I right align the second column and would phantomize 
the hsize of the header, this could work with a bit of optimization.

What I like about this approach however is that one could read the two 
arguments from a CSV file, which would save a lot of typing (and to manually 
specify the padding).

\def\mpm#1#2{
\doifsomethingelse{#2}{
\startxcell[align=left] \digits{#1} \stopxcell
\startxcell ± \stopxcell
\startxcell \digits{#2} \stopxcell
}{
\startxcell[align=left] \digits{#1} \stopxcell
\startxcell \stopxcell
\startxcell \digits{#2} \stopxcell
}
}

\startxtable[split=repeat, aligncharacter=yes, alignmentcharacter={.}]

\startxtablehead
\startxrow[topframe=on, foregroundstyle=bold]
\startxcell A \stopxcell
\startxcell[align=left, nx=3] Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla 
\stopxcell
\startxcell C \stopxcell
\stopxrow
\stopxtablehead

\startxtablebody
\startxrow[topframe=on]
\startxcell R1 \stopxcell
\mpm{12.3}{}%{1.5}
\startxcell one \stopxcell
\stopxrow

\startxrow
\startxcell R2 \stopxcell
\mpm{0.01}{0.023}
\startxcell two \stopxcell
\stopxrow

\startxrow
\startxcell R3 \stopxcell
\mpm{2.3}{0.1}
\startxcell three\stopxcell
\stopxrow

\stopxtablebody

\stopxtable 

> On 7 May 2020, at 21:22, Benjamin Buchmuller  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Wolfgang,
> 
> you are (of course) right again. I realised that I wouldn’t get the expected 
> behaviour after checking the snippet isolated from my document’s context, 
> where it is embedded in a \startplacetable[…]{}{}. I’m still learning to get 
> the gist of the \doifs, the curly and square bracketed arguments and so on. 
> Thanks for the hint! 
> 
> Seems like I’m going to make three cells and span the header column for now, 
> though I guess it would be a nice feature to have the padding working in the 
> other cases.
> 
> I’ll write a feature request for no 4.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
>> On 7 May 2020, at 20:00, Wolfgang Schuster 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Benjamin Buchmuller schrieb am 07.05.2020 um 19:41:
>>> Hi Wolfang,
>>> Thank you for your reply. I have indeed not explained my intended result 
>>> very clearly.
>>> 1.
>>> Primarily, I need to get the two values aligned at the digit separator of 
>>> the first and second number respectively and overall at the ± sign. I’m 
>>> working in an xtable, where I have entries such as
>>> \startxcell \mpm{14.0==}{_1.5==} \stopxcell
>>> \startxcell \mpm{_0.034}{_0.013} \stopxcell
>>> and defined
>>> \def\mpm#1#2{
>>> \ifsecondargument
>>> \digits{#1}\,±\,\digits{#2}%
>>> \else
>>> \digits{#1}%
>>> \fi
>>> }
>> 
>> Is there something missing in here because the \ifsecondargument check here 
>> makes non sense because the second argument is mandatory and not optional.
>> 
>> Is this what you want?
>> 
>> \define[2]\mpm
>> {\digits{#1}%
>>  \doifsomething{#2}{\,±\,\digits{#2}}}
>> 
>>> Since I was hoping that I could exploit the zeropadding of \digits to get 
>>> the format right. Indeed, it would save a lot of typing, if I wouldn’t have 
>>> to specify the padding manually and I vaguely recall that there is 
>>> somewhere a ConTeXt solution that can make such alignments, but I simply 
>>> can’t find it any more …
>> 
>> You can align number on the decimal point (comma) but this works only when 
>> you have only one number in a cell.
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>> \startxtable[aligncharacter=yes,alignmentcharacter=±]
>>   \startxrow
>>   \startxcell
>>   \digits {14.0} ± \digits {1.5}
>>   \stopxcell
>>   \stopxrow
>>   \startxrow
>>   \startxcell
>>   \digits {0.034} ± \digits {0.013}
>>   \stopxcell
>>   \stopxrow
>> \stopxtable
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
>>> 2. + 3.
>>> Absolutely right, this is my bad. I have badly mixed from Hans’ solution to 
>>> a similar problem,
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg00724.html
>>> which was actually \def\zeroamount{-} and the example in the source, I 
>>> didn’t read properly. Just skip that part. :)
>> 
>> The message is from 2003!
>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Indeed,
>>> \startxcell \mpm{14.==}{_1.5=} \stopxcell
>>>

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv digits/units zero padding not working

2020-05-07 Thread Benjamin Buchmuller

Hi Wolfgang,

you are (of course) right again. I realised that I wouldn’t get the expected 
behaviour after checking the snippet isolated from my document’s context, where 
it is embedded in a \startplacetable[…]{}{}. I’m still learning to get the gist 
of the \doifs, the curly and square bracketed arguments and so on. Thanks for 
the hint! 

Seems like I’m going to make three cells and span the header column for now, 
though I guess it would be a nice feature to have the padding working in the 
other cases.

I’ll write a feature request for no 4.

Thanks!


> On 7 May 2020, at 20:00, Wolfgang Schuster 
>  wrote:
> 
> Benjamin Buchmuller schrieb am 07.05.2020 um 19:41:
>> Hi Wolfang,
>> Thank you for your reply. I have indeed not explained my intended result 
>> very clearly.
>> 1.
>> Primarily, I need to get the two values aligned at the digit separator of 
>> the first and second number respectively and overall at the ± sign. I’m 
>> working in an xtable, where I have entries such as
>> \startxcell \mpm{14.0==}{_1.5==} \stopxcell
>> \startxcell \mpm{_0.034}{_0.013} \stopxcell
>> and defined
>> \def\mpm#1#2{
>>  \ifsecondargument
>>  \digits{#1}\,±\,\digits{#2}%
>>  \else
>>  \digits{#1}%
>>  \fi
>> }
> 
> Is there something missing in here because the \ifsecondargument check here 
> makes non sense because the second argument is mandatory and not optional.
> 
> Is this what you want?
> 
> \define[2]\mpm
>  {\digits{#1}%
>   \doifsomething{#2}{\,±\,\digits{#2}}}
> 
>> Since I was hoping that I could exploit the zeropadding of \digits to get 
>> the format right. Indeed, it would save a lot of typing, if I wouldn’t have 
>> to specify the padding manually and I vaguely recall that there is somewhere 
>> a ConTeXt solution that can make such alignments, but I simply can’t find it 
>> any more …
> 
> You can align number on the decimal point (comma) but this works only when 
> you have only one number in a cell.
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startxtable[aligncharacter=yes,alignmentcharacter=±]
>\startxrow
>\startxcell
>\digits {14.0} ± \digits {1.5}
>\stopxcell
>\stopxrow
>\startxrow
>\startxcell
>\digits {0.034} ± \digits {0.013}
>\stopxcell
>\stopxrow
> \stopxtable
> 
> \stoptext
> 
>> 2. + 3.
>> Absolutely right, this is my bad. I have badly mixed from Hans’ solution to 
>> a similar problem,
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg00724.html
>> which was actually \def\zeroamount{-} and the example in the source, I 
>> didn’t read properly. Just skip that part. :)
> 
> The message is from 2003!
> 
>> 4.
>> Indeed,
>> \startxcell \mpm{14.==}{_1.5=} \stopxcell
>> \startxcell \mpm{_0.03}{_0.01} \stopxcell
>> aligns properly. But sometimes, I have the first digit specified, but not 
>> the second and unfortunately this doesn’t work
>> \startxcell \mpm{14.5=}{_1.5=} \stopxcell
>> \startxcell \mpm{_0.03}{_0.01} \stopxcell
>> because = is not immediately preceded by .
> 
> Can you write another mail with a request for this.
> 
> Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv digits/units zero padding not working

2020-05-07 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Benjamin Buchmuller schrieb am 07.05.2020 um 19:41:

Hi Wolfang,

Thank you for your reply. I have indeed not explained my intended result very 
clearly.

1.

Primarily, I need to get the two values aligned at the digit separator of the 
first and second number respectively and overall at the ± sign. I’m working in 
an xtable, where I have entries such as

\startxcell \mpm{14.0==}{_1.5==} \stopxcell
\startxcell \mpm{_0.034}{_0.013} \stopxcell

and defined

\def\mpm#1#2{
\ifsecondargument
\digits{#1}\,±\,\digits{#2}%
\else
\digits{#1}%
\fi
}


Is there something missing in here because the \ifsecondargument check 
here makes non sense because the second argument is mandatory and not 
optional.


Is this what you want?

\define[2]\mpm
  {\digits{#1}%
   \doifsomething{#2}{\,±\,\digits{#2}}}


Since I was hoping that I could exploit the zeropadding of \digits to get the 
format right. Indeed, it would save a lot of typing, if I wouldn’t have to 
specify the padding manually and I vaguely recall that there is somewhere a 
ConTeXt solution that can make such alignments, but I simply can’t find it any 
more …


You can align number on the decimal point (comma) but this works only 
when you have only one number in a cell.


\starttext

\startxtable[aligncharacter=yes,alignmentcharacter=±]
\startxrow
\startxcell
\digits {14.0} ± \digits {1.5}
\stopxcell
\stopxrow
\startxrow
\startxcell
\digits {0.034} ± \digits {0.013}
\stopxcell
\stopxrow
\stopxtable

\stoptext


2. + 3.

Absolutely right, this is my bad. I have badly mixed from Hans’ solution to a 
similar problem,

https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg00724.html

which was actually \def\zeroamount{-} and the example in the source, I didn’t 
read properly. Just skip that part. :)


The message is from 2003!


4.

Indeed,

\startxcell \mpm{14.==}{_1.5=} \stopxcell
\startxcell \mpm{_0.03}{_0.01} \stopxcell

aligns properly. But sometimes, I have the first digit specified, but not the 
second and unfortunately this doesn’t work

\startxcell \mpm{14.5=}{_1.5=} \stopxcell
\startxcell \mpm{_0.03}{_0.01} \stopxcell

because = is not immediately preceded by .


Can you write another mail with a request for this.

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv digits/units zero padding not working

2020-05-07 Thread Benjamin Buchmuller

Hi Wolfang,

Thank you for your reply. I have indeed not explained my intended result very 
clearly. 

1. 

Primarily, I need to get the two values aligned at the digit separator of the 
first and second number respectively and overall at the ± sign. I’m working in 
an xtable, where I have entries such as

\startxcell \mpm{14.0==}{_1.5==} \stopxcell
\startxcell \mpm{_0.034}{_0.013} \stopxcell

and defined 

\def\mpm#1#2{
\ifsecondargument
\digits{#1}\,±\,\digits{#2}%
\else
\digits{#1}%
\fi
}

Since I was hoping that I could exploit the zeropadding of \digits to get the 
format right. Indeed, it would save a lot of typing, if I wouldn’t have to 
specify the padding manually and I vaguely recall that there is somewhere a 
ConTeXt solution that can make such alignments, but I simply can’t find it any 
more …

2. + 3.

Absolutely right, this is my bad. I have badly mixed from Hans’ solution to a 
similar problem, 

https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg00724.html

which was actually \def\zeroamount{-} and the example in the source, I didn’t 
read properly. Just skip that part. :)

4. 

Indeed, 

\startxcell \mpm{14.==}{_1.5=} \stopxcell
\startxcell \mpm{_0.03}{_0.01} \stopxcell

aligns properly. But sometimes, I have the first digit specified, but not the 
second and unfortunately this doesn’t work

\startxcell \mpm{14.5=}{_1.5=} \stopxcell
\startxcell \mpm{_0.03}{_0.01} \stopxcell

because = is not immediately preceded by .

> On 7 May 2020, at 18:21, Wolfgang Schuster 
>  wrote:
> 
> Benjamin Buchmuller schrieb am 07.05.2020 um 17:31:
>> Hi,
>> I’m trying to get
>> \digits{15.0=}±\digits{1.00}
>> \digits{_8.12}±\digits{0.34}
>> horizontally aligned as
>> 15.0 ±1.00
>>  8.12±0.34
>> But I get
>> 15.0±1.00
>>  8.12±0.34
>> instead.
>> From the source (phys-dim.mkiv), I can see that “=“ should expand to 
>> \hphantom{0}. (I think \zeropoint in the table is outdated, since 
>> \def\zeropoint\hphantom{0} does not solve the problem either.)
> 
> 1. Which table?
> 
> 2. This is not how \def works.
> 
> 3. When you redefine \zeropoint (which isn't a macro) you're going to break 
> everything.
> 
>> I can’t use tabulate or alignment in math mode for this problem 
>> unfortunately.
> 
> I looked at the code and the problem is = can only be used to insert space 
> for two digits (e.g. 100.==).
> 
> Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv digits/units zero padding not working

2020-05-07 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Benjamin Buchmuller schrieb am 07.05.2020 um 17:31:

Hi,

I’m trying to get

\digits{15.0=}±\digits{1.00}

\digits{_8.12}±\digits{0.34}

horizontally aligned as

15.0 ±1.00
  8.12±0.34

But I get

15.0±1.00
  8.12±0.34

instead.

 From the source (phys-dim.mkiv), I can see that “=“ should expand to 
\hphantom{0}. (I think \zeropoint in the table is outdated, since 
\def\zeropoint\hphantom{0} does not solve the problem either.)


1. Which table?

2. This is not how \def works.

3. When you redefine \zeropoint (which isn't a macro) you're going to 
break everything.



I can’t use tabulate or alignment in math mode for this problem unfortunately.


I looked at the code and the problem is = can only be used to insert 
space for two digits (e.g. 100.==).


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-14 Thread Rik Kabel

This issue has been resolved with a new luatex dll in the Win64 bin 
directory (perhaps elsewhere as well, but I only have Win64).


Thank you to all who worked on it.

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread Rik Kabel


On 11/13/2019 11:14, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 4:54 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:

On 11/13/2019 10:15, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 3:01 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:



On 11/13/2019 04:14, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 9:51 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

sent from
** cont...@rik.users.panix.com 

Note from admin: the email is in defer state because
"Message body is too big: 159549 bytes with a limit of 100 KB"
I have kept the initial part.

"
Dear list,

Since the 20191029 update I have not been able to create a 
document via
MKIV, suffering from the subject error message (error, no format 
found

with name: cont-en, aborting).

I have tried cache clearing, regeneration, and complete fresh 
installs.
None work. I suspect it is something on my system, but cannot 
think of a

relevant change except possibly a Win10-64 system update.

Attached is the log from the latest install try (with filenames of
copied files removed).

LMTX has no problems.

All suggestions welcome.

Also with todays version?

Hans


Yes. Just did a fresh install, getting current version: 2019.11.12 
23:58, and have the same result.

any messages? there should be something

resolvers   | formats |
resolvers   | formats | format path  : 
c:/data/develop/tex-context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/764bd4e1ce0f004ab3cec90018f8b80a/formats/luametatex

resolvers   | formats | luatex engine    : luametatex
resolvers   | formats | lua startup file : 
c:/data/develop/context/sources/luat-cod.lua
resolvers   | formats | context file : 
c:/data/develop/context/sources/cont-en.mkxl

resolvers   | formats | run time : 10.141 seconds
resolvers   | formats | return value : okay
resolvers   | formats |

at the end (or some not found messages)

Hans

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I get the following (grepping for resolvers.*formats) from the install:

    resolvers   | formats | using tex source file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv'
    resolvers   | formats | using specification file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.lus'
    resolvers   | formats | using tex source path
    'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv'
    resolvers   | formats | changing to format path
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex'
    resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luatex format':
    luatex --ini
--lua=c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua 
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv     
\dump

    resolvers   | formats |
    resolvers   | formats | format path  :
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex
    resolvers   | formats | luatex engine    : luatex
    resolvers   | formats | lua startup file :
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua
    resolvers   | formats | context file :
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv
    resolvers   | formats | run time : 1.513 seconds
    resolvers   | formats | return value : error
    resolvers   | formats |
    resolvers   | formats | using tex source file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv'
    resolvers   | formats | using specification file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.lus'
    resolvers   | formats | using tex source path
    'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv'
    resolvers   | formats | changing to format path
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex'
    resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luatex format':
    luatex --ini
--lua=c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua 
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv     
\dump

    resolvers   | formats |
    resolvers   | formats | format path  :

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread Hans Hagen


On 11/13/2019 4:54 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:

On 11/13/2019 10:15, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 3:01 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:



On 11/13/2019 04:14, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 9:51 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

sent from
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Note from admin: the email is in defer state because
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"
Dear list,

Since the 20191029 update I have not been able to create a document 
via

MKIV, suffering from the subject error message (error, no format found
with name: cont-en, aborting).

I have tried cache clearing, regeneration, and complete fresh 
installs.
None work. I suspect it is something on my system, but cannot think 
of a

relevant change except possibly a Win10-64 system update.

Attached is the log from the latest install try (with filenames of
copied files removed).

LMTX has no problems.

All suggestions welcome.

Also with todays version?

Hans


Yes. Just did a fresh install, getting current version: 2019.11.12 
23:58, and have the same result.

any messages? there should be something

resolvers   | formats |
resolvers   | formats | format path  : 
c:/data/develop/tex-context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/764bd4e1ce0f004ab3cec90018f8b80a/formats/luametatex

resolvers   | formats | luatex engine    : luametatex
resolvers   | formats | lua startup file : 
c:/data/develop/context/sources/luat-cod.lua
resolvers   | formats | context file : 
c:/data/develop/context/sources/cont-en.mkxl

resolvers   | formats | run time : 10.141 seconds
resolvers   | formats | return value : okay
resolvers   | formats |

at the end (or some not found messages)

Hans

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I get the following (grepping for resolvers.*formats) from the install:

resolvers   | formats | using tex source file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv'
resolvers   | formats | using specification file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.lus'
resolvers   | formats | using tex source path
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv'
resolvers   | formats | changing to format path

'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex'
resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luatex format':
luatex --ini
--lua=c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv 
\dump

resolvers   | formats |
resolvers   | formats | format path  :

c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex
resolvers   | formats | luatex engine    : luatex
resolvers   | formats | lua startup file :
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua
resolvers   | formats | context file :
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv
resolvers   | formats | run time : 1.513 seconds
resolvers   | formats | return value : error
resolvers   | formats |
resolvers   | formats | using tex source file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv'
resolvers   | formats | using specification file
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.lus'
resolvers   | formats | using tex source path
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv'
resolvers   | formats | changing to format path

'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex'
resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luatex format':
luatex --ini
--lua=c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv 
\dump

resolvers   | formats |
resolvers   | formats | format path  :

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread Rik Kabel


On 11/13/2019 10:15, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 3:01 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:



On 11/13/2019 04:14, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 9:51 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

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Dear list,

Since the 20191029 update I have not been able to create a document 
via

MKIV, suffering from the subject error message (error, no format found
with name: cont-en, aborting).

I have tried cache clearing, regeneration, and complete fresh 
installs.
None work. I suspect it is something on my system, but cannot think 
of a

relevant change except possibly a Win10-64 system update.

Attached is the log from the latest install try (with filenames of
copied files removed).

LMTX has no problems.

All suggestions welcome.

Also with todays version?

Hans


Yes. Just did a fresh install, getting current version: 2019.11.12 
23:58, and have the same result.

any messages? there should be something

resolvers   | formats |
resolvers   | formats | format path  : 
c:/data/develop/tex-context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/764bd4e1ce0f004ab3cec90018f8b80a/formats/luametatex

resolvers   | formats | luatex engine    : luametatex
resolvers   | formats | lua startup file : 
c:/data/develop/context/sources/luat-cod.lua
resolvers   | formats | context file : 
c:/data/develop/context/sources/cont-en.mkxl

resolvers   | formats | run time : 10.141 seconds
resolvers   | formats | return value : okay
resolvers   | formats |

at the end (or some not found messages)

Hans

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I get the following (grepping for resolvers.*formats) from the install:

   resolvers   | formats | using tex source file
   'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv'
   resolvers   | formats | using specification file
   'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.lus'
   resolvers   | formats | using tex source path
   'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv'
   resolvers   | formats | changing to format path
   
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex'
   resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luatex format':
   luatex --ini
   --lua=c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua
   c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv  \dump
   resolvers   | formats |
   resolvers   | formats | format path  :
   
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex
   resolvers   | formats | luatex engine    : luatex
   resolvers   | formats | lua startup file :
   c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua
   resolvers   | formats | context file :
   c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv
   resolvers   | formats | run time : 1.513 seconds
   resolvers   | formats | return value : error
   resolvers   | formats |
   resolvers   | formats | using tex source file
   'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv'
   resolvers   | formats | using specification file
   'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.lus'
   resolvers   | formats | using tex source path
   'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv'
   resolvers   | formats | changing to format path
   
'c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex'
   resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luatex format':
   luatex --ini
   --lua=c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lua
   c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv  \dump
   resolvers   | formats |
   resolvers   | formats | format path  :
   
c:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex
   resolvers   | formats | luatex engine    :

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/13/2019 3:01 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:

On 11/13/2019 04:14, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 9:51 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

sent from
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Note from admin: the email is in defer state because
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Dear list,

Since the 20191029 update I have not been able to create a document via
MKIV, suffering from the subject error message (error, no format found
with name: cont-en, aborting).

I have tried cache clearing, regeneration, and complete fresh installs.
None work. I suspect it is something on my system, but cannot think of a
relevant change except possibly a Win10-64 system update.

Attached is the log from the latest install try (with filenames of
copied files removed).

LMTX has no problems.

All suggestions welcome.

Also with todays version?

Hans

Yes. Just did a fresh install, getting current version: 2019.11.12
23:58, and have the same result.

any messages? there should be something

resolvers | formats |
resolvers | formats | format path :
c:/data/develop/tex-context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/764bd4e1ce0f004ab3cec90018f8b80a/formats/luametatex

at the end (or some not found messages)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread Rik Kabel




On 11/13/2019 04:14, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/13/2019 9:51 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

sent from
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Dear list,

Since the 20191029 update I have not been able to create a document via
MKIV, suffering from the subject error message (error, no format found
with name: cont-en, aborting).

I have tried cache clearing, regeneration, and complete fresh installs.
None work. I suspect it is something on my system, but cannot think of a
relevant change except possibly a Win10-64 system update.

Attached is the log from the latest install try (with filenames of
copied files removed).

LMTX has no problems.

All suggestions welcome.

Also with todays version?

Hans


Yes. Just did a fresh install, getting current version: 2019.11.12 
23:58, and have the same result.


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread Hans Hagen


On 11/13/2019 9:51 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

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Dear list,

Since the 20191029 update I have not been able to create a document via
MKIV, suffering from the subject error message (error, no format found
with name: cont-en, aborting).

I have tried cache clearing, regeneration, and complete fresh installs.
None work. I suspect it is something on my system, but cannot think of a
relevant change except possibly a Win10-64 system update.

Attached is the log from the latest install try (with filenames of
copied files removed).

LMTX has no problems.

All suggestions welcome.

Also with todays version?

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Mkiv, fonts in text and math mode, with \definebodyfont

2019-10-01 Thread Hans Hagen


On 9/30/2019 7:32 PM, Stefano Sanguinetti wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to understand something more about fonts in text and math 
mode, in Mkiv Context. I would like to be able to change things at the 
"define body fonts" level.


I tried the following, in order to have rsfs fonts :
\setupbodyfont[12pt]
\definebodyfont[12pt][rm][tf=rsfs10 sa *]
\starttext
\tf ABCD
\tfa ABCD
\stoptext

The \tfa ABCD is displayed as rsfs as I wanted, but the \tf ABCD is 
displayed as default fonts. Why ? What could I change in order to have 
\tf ABCD in rsfs ?


In math mode, I am not able to have rsfs fonts :
\setupbodyfont[12pt]
\definebodyfont[12pt][mm][mr=rsfs10 sa *,ex=rsfs10 sa *,mi=rsfs10 sa 
*,sy=rsfs10 sa *,ma=rsfs10 sa *,mb=rsfs10 sa *]

\starttext
$ABCD$
\stoptext

That gives ABCD in default math mode fonts.
Is there a simple way to do it with the \definebodyfont command ?

Thank you in advance for your comments.
In mkiv we use a different model. If you want to use traditional type 1 
fonts you need to define a virtual (unicode) math font. You can look 
into px-math.lfg to see how that is done.


(Maybe I should remove these old family models from  mkiv/lmtx. probably 
no one would object.)


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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv MathML bug?

2019-06-27 Thread Duncan Hothersall

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, 20:46 Hans Hagen,  wrote:

> On 6/27/2019 6:35 PM, Duncan Hothersall wrote:
> > I'm not sure this is something more general in the MathML module or if
> > it's specific to the vertical bar in this particular context, but here
> > is a minimal example showing that the "=0" at the end of the equation is
> > disappearing:
>
> there is indeed some issue, i'll look into it
>

Thanks Hans.

>
>
> you can also try
>
>  
>B
>C
>

I did try that, it didn't seem to work quite as expected either.

Thanks again.

Duncan

>
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv MathML bug?

2019-06-27 Thread Hans Hagen


On 6/27/2019 6:35 PM, Duncan Hothersall wrote:
I'm not sure this is something more general in the MathML module or if 
it's specific to the vertical bar in this particular context, but here 
is a minimal example showing that the "=0" at the end of the equation is 
disappearing:


there is indeed some issue, i'll look into it


\usemodule[mathml]
\starttext
\xmlprocessdata{}{
         
           A
           
             B
             |
             C
           
           =
           0
         
       }{}
\stoptext


you can also try


  B
  C



And here is a workaround using  instead of  for the vertical 
bar which makes the "=0" magically reappear again:


\usemodule[mathml]
\starttext
\xmlprocessdata{}{
         
           A
           
             B
             |
             C
           
           =
           0
         
       }{}
\stoptext

Flagged up mainly in case it is a bigger problem than just vertical bars 
in this specific context.


Thanks,

Duncan


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Meer, Hans van der

Thanks I did not know the correct designations for the various parts of the 
captionlabel: the prefixconnector and the numberstopper. It is clear now.
Hans van der Meer




On 10 Oct 2016, at 10:40, Wolfgang Schuster 
> wrote:

Wolfgang Schuster
10. Oktober 2016 um 10:39
prefixconnector is the separator between the section number (=prefix) and the 
float number (=figure number), the symbol at the end of the float number is 
called numberstopper. In your example you don’t have a section which can act as 
prefix number no did you change which prefixes should be shown (by default only 
chapters are used as prefix).

The suffix key you use (together with suffixconnector and suffixstopper) is 
used to show the number for subfigures, e.g. figure 3.a.
Here is a working example for the use of the prefixconnector key.

\starttext

\section{This is a section}

\setupcaptions[prefixsegments=section,prefixconnector=-]

\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]}]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=.5\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Wolfgang Schuster 
10. Oktober 2016 um 10:39
prefixconnector is the separator between the section number (=prefix) 
and the float number (=figure number), the symbol at the end of the 
float number is called numberstopper. In your example you don’t have a 
section which can act as prefix number no did you change which 
prefixes should be shown (by default only chapters are used as prefix).


The suffix key you use (together with suffixconnector and 
suffixstopper) is used to show the number for subfigures, e.g. figure 3.a.

Here is a working example for the use of the prefixconnector key.

\starttext

\section{This is a section}

\setupcaptions[prefixsegments=section,prefixconnector=-]

\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]}]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=.5\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Meer, Hans van der 
10. Oktober 2016 um 09:41
Here is the example. \setupcaptions has no effect, however 
\setupfloatcaption does (assuming of course I didn't make a silly 
mistake ;-). Thus it is no problem to get the effect desired, but 
possibly \setupcaptions should be deprecated, or perhaps reimplemented 
to calling \setupfloatcaption. I could have missed the change, but I 
guess a lot of other people might have missed it too. In that case we 
could spare them the trouble of finding out what happened.
prefixconnector is the separator between the section number (=prefix) 
and the float number (=figure number), the symbol at the end of the 
float number is called numberstopper. In your example you don’t have a 
section which can act as prefix number no did you change which prefixes 
should be shown (by default only chapters are used as prefix).


The suffix key you use (together with suffixconnector and suffixstopper) 
is used to show the number for subfigures, e.g. figure 3.a.


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Meer, Hans van der

Here is the example. \setupcaptions has no effect, however \setupfloatcaption 
does (assuming of course I didn't make a silly mistake ;-). Thus it is no 
problem to get the effect desired, but possibly \setupcaptions should be 
deprecated, or perhaps reimplemented to calling \setupfloatcaption. I could 
have missed the change, but I guess a lot of other people might have missed it 
too. In that case we could spare them the trouble of finding out what happened.

Hans van der Meer

\starttext

\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]
\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]}]
\externalfigure[test.jpg][scale=300]
\stopplacefigure

\setupfloatcaption[suffix=-]
\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupfloatcaption[suffix=-]}]
\externalfigure[test.jpg][scale=300]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext

On 09 Oct 2016, at 21:44, Wolfgang Schuster 
> wrote:

Meer, Hans van der
9. Oktober 2016 um 14:36
Is this still valid? Using \setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-] doesn't seem to 
make a difference for \startplacefigure.
Do you have a example?

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Meer, Hans van der 
9. Oktober 2016 um 14:36
Is this still valid? Using \setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-] doesn't 
seem to make a difference for \startplacefigure.

Do you have a example?

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-09 Thread Meer, Hans van der

Is this still valid? Using \setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-] doesn't seem to 
make a difference for \startplacefigure.

Hans van der Meer

On 22 Apr 2014, at 08:25, Wolfgang Schuster 
> wrote:

Am 22.04.2014 um 02:57 schrieb Rik Kabel 
>:

Has any progress been made in the past few years implementing modifiable 
separators for captions under MKIV? This was raised as an issue by (at least) 
Mojca Miklavec in December 2010 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg51542.html) and by Andy 
Thomas 18 months later 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg63937.html).
 (Their issues with stopper have been resolved. In MKIV it is numberstopper.)

Here is an MWE demonstrating the problem. It compiles cleanly, but the 
separator remains the default period. With MKII, it generates a figure with a 
hyphen and not a period.
\setupcaptions[separator=-]
\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]

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Re: [NTG-context] [MkIV] How to get the local size of a column

2015-05-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


 Am 19.05.2015 um 12:31 schrieb Pierre-François Bonnefoi bonne...@unilim.fr:
 
 Hello Hans,
 
 I try to get the equivalent of \the\hsize in Lua, in order to render some 
 verbatim text to the current width of the column.

Both dimensions are in scaled points.

\starttext

\cldcontext{tex.hsize}

\cldcontext{tex.dimen[textwidth]}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] [MkIV] How to get the local size of a column

2015-05-19 Thread Hans Hagen


On 5/18/2015 8:00 PM, Pierre-François Bonnefoi wrote:

Hello,

Is it possible to get the current width of a column from a paragraph
into Lua ?


it all depends on where and how you access that but normally the width 
of a hlist will do



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Re: [NTG-context] [MkIV] How to get the local size of a column

2015-05-19 Thread Pierre-François Bonnefoi

Hello Hans,

I try to get the equivalent of \the\hsize in Lua, in order to render some 
verbatim text to the current width of the column.

Thank you for your help,
Pierre-François.

 On 19 May 2015, at 12:16, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 5/18/2015 8:00 PM, Pierre-François Bonnefoi wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is it possible to get the current width of a column from a paragraph
 into Lua ?
 
 it all depends on where and how you access that but normally the width of a 
 hlist will do
 
 Pierre-François.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] [MkIV] How to get the local size of a column

2015-05-19 Thread Pierre-François Bonnefoi

Thank you !

tex.hzize / 2^16 gives me the expected value !

This is a lot to learn  :)

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 contex

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Re: [NTG-context] [MkIV] How to get the local size of a column

2015-05-19 Thread Pierre-François Bonnefoi

I've found a workaround by passing the value as an argument to the lua code :

\def\stopzonetexte
  
{\ctxlua{userdata.traiterbuffer(buffers.getcontent('zonetexte'),[==[\the\hsize]==])}

Now, I try to figure how to get em size in points.



 On 19 May 2015, at 12:31, Pierre-François Bonnefoi bonne...@unilim.fr wrote:
 
 Hello Hans,
 
 I try to get the equivalent of \the\hsize in Lua, in order to render some 
 verbatim text to the current width of the column.
 
 Thank you for your help,
 Pierre-François.
 
 On 19 May 2015, at 12:16, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl mailto:pra...@wxs.nl 
 wrote:
 
 On 5/18/2015 8:00 PM, Pierre-François Bonnefoi wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is it possible to get the current width of a column from a paragraph
 into Lua ?
 
 it all depends on where and how you access that but normally the width of a 
 hlist will do
 
 

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Re: [NTG-context] [MkIV] How to get the local size of a column

2015-05-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


 Am 19.05.2015 um 14:25 schrieb Pierre-François Bonnefoi bonne...@unilim.fr:
 
 Thank you !
 
 tex.hzize / 2^16 gives me the expected value !
 
 This is a lot to learn  :)

Take a look into util-dim.la and search for the number.todimen function which 
can be used to convert scaled points into points.

\starttext

\startluacode

context(tex.hsize)
context.par()
context(number.topoints(tex.hsize))
context.par()
context(number.topoints(tex.hsize,%0.5f))

\stopluacode

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


 Am 21.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 18:33, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Am 20.03.2015 um 14:43 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 Sorry to ask again, but is there no solution?
 
 Can you send a *working* minimal example!
 
 I don’t know how. It happens with my project. I can’t publish my entire 
 project’s source code as it is for a book that is sold commercially.
 
 I’ll look into trying to make a minimal example. But so far I haven’t been 
 able to.

The initial is the problem but you can fix this when you replace \GotoPar with 
a different mechanism.

 begin example
\showgrid

\definelist[chaptertext][style=\itx]

\define[1]\ChapterAbstract{\doflushatpar{\writetolist[chaptertext]{}{#1}}}

\starttext

\title{\headtext{content}}

\placelist[chapter,chaptertext]

\chapter{Knuth}

\ChapterAbstract{\input ward }

\placeinitial\input knuth

\stoptext
 end example

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-21 Thread Gerben Wierda

On 20 Mar 2015, at 18:33, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Am 20.03.2015 um 14:43 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 Sorry to ask again, but is there no solution?
 
 Can you send a *working* minimal example!

I don’t know how. It happens with my project. I can’t publish my entire 
project’s source code as it is for a book that is sold commercially.

I’ll look into trying to make a minimal example. But so far I haven’t been able 
to.

G

 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-20 Thread Gerben Wierda

Sorry to ask again, but is there no solution?

G

On 16 Mar 2015, at 15:03, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:

 
 On 15 Mar 2015, at 23:24, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
 
 - The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and 
 the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
 
 The different space before the \chapter is caused by the “fixed” keyword for 
 \blank
 which produce different result with MkII and MkIV and the MkIV behaviour need
 to be corrected.
 
 The space after \chapter comes from your \writetolist entry and you can 
 correct
 this with the \GotoPar command at the end of the entry as shown below.
 
  begin example
 \showgrid
 
 \setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[force,2*line]}]
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{Knuth}
 
 \writetolist[chapter]{}{}\GotoPar
 
 \input knuth
 
 \stoptext
  end example
 
 Thanks. I tried this
 
 % Every chapter starts with a quote on the LHS page:
 \setuphead
   [chapter]
   [page=,
before={\setups[chapter:before]},
after={\setups[chapter:after]}]
 
 \startsetups chapter:before
 \page[left]
 \noheaderandfooterlines
 \startalignment[left,nothyphenated]
   \startnarrower[4*left]
 \em \getbuffer[chapter:quote]
   \stopnarrower
 \stopalignment
 \resetsetups[quote:text]
 \page[right]
 \noheaderandfooterlines
 \blank[force,2*big]
 \stopsetups
 
 \startsetups chapter:after
 \blank[3*big]
 \stopsetups
 
 \definelist[chaptertext]
 \setuplist[chaptertext][margin=1.3em,pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument]
 \define[1]\ChapterAbstract{\writetolist[chaptertext]{}{\start\itx#1\stop}\GotoPar}
 
 
 (Adding the \GotoPar at the end) but it did not had any effect. At one place 
 (no chapter but an unnumbered title, it doesn’t work as well. Here I now have:
 
 \title[h:grief1]{Intermezzo:\\
 A short story about grief}
 \writetolist[chapter]{}{Intermezzo: A Short Story about Grief}\GotoPar
 \ChapterAbstract{A small fragment of a movie script that beautifully
 illustrates the gap between the rational and the real.}
 
 I changed it to 
 \title[h:grief1]{Intermezzo:\\
 A short story about grief}
 \writetolist[chapter]{}{Intermezzo: A Short Story about Grief}\GotoPar
 \ChapterAbstract{A small fragment of a movie script that beautifully
 illustrates the gap between the rational and the real.}\GotoPar
 
 And that works. So I changed it in another chapter to
 
 \chapter[h:loosely]{Prologue:\\Loosely Coupled Spaghetti}
 \ChapterAbstract{Starting with an example of how things can go wrong in a
 current Business-IT landscape, we notice that these kinds of problems have
 existed almost for as long as IT has existed, and that no proposed `silver
 bullet' has ever solved them. The goal of the book is introduced.}\GotoPar
 
 \placeinitial S{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. 
 The
 business logic has been put into a Business Rule Engine (BRE)
 system\footnote{If you are not technical and terms like `application server',
 
 But there it doesn’t. Apparently, I am still missing something. 
 
 G
 
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


 Am 20.03.2015 um 14:43 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 Sorry to ask again, but is there no solution?

Can you send a *working* minimal example!

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-16 Thread Gerben Wierda


On 15 Mar 2015, at 23:24, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
 
 - The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and 
 the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
 
 The different space before the \chapter is caused by the “fixed” keyword for 
 \blank
 which produce different result with MkII and MkIV and the MkIV behaviour need
 to be corrected.
 
 The space after \chapter comes from your \writetolist entry and you can 
 correct
 this with the \GotoPar command at the end of the entry as shown below.
 
  begin example
 \showgrid
 
 \setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[force,2*line]}]
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{Knuth}
 
 \writetolist[chapter]{}{}\GotoPar
 
 \input knuth
 
 \stoptext
  end example

Thanks. I tried this

% Every chapter starts with a quote on the LHS page:
\setuphead
  [chapter]
  [page=,
   before={\setups[chapter:before]},
   after={\setups[chapter:after]}]

\startsetups chapter:before
\page[left]
\noheaderandfooterlines
\startalignment[left,nothyphenated]
\startnarrower[4*left]
\em \getbuffer[chapter:quote]
\stopnarrower
\stopalignment
\resetsetups[quote:text]
\page[right]
\noheaderandfooterlines
\blank[force,2*big]
\stopsetups

\startsetups chapter:after
\blank[3*big]
\stopsetups

\definelist[chaptertext]
\setuplist[chaptertext][margin=1.3em,pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument]
\define[1]\ChapterAbstract{\writetolist[chaptertext]{}{\start\itx#1\stop}\GotoPar}


(Adding the \GotoPar at the end) but it did not had any effect. At one place 
(no chapter but an unnumbered title, it doesn’t work as well. Here I now have:

\title[h:grief1]{Intermezzo:\\
A short story about grief}
\writetolist[chapter]{}{Intermezzo: A Short Story about Grief}\GotoPar
\ChapterAbstract{A small fragment of a movie script that beautifully
illustrates the gap between the rational and the real.}

I changed it to 
\title[h:grief1]{Intermezzo:\\
A short story about grief}
\writetolist[chapter]{}{Intermezzo: A Short Story about Grief}\GotoPar
\ChapterAbstract{A small fragment of a movie script that beautifully
illustrates the gap between the rational and the real.}\GotoPar

And that works. So I changed it in another chapter to

\chapter[h:loosely]{Prologue:\\Loosely Coupled Spaghetti}
\ChapterAbstract{Starting with an example of how things can go wrong in a
current Business-IT landscape, we notice that these kinds of problems have
existed almost for as long as IT has existed, and that no proposed `silver
bullet' has ever solved them. The goal of the book is introduced.}\GotoPar

\placeinitial S{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. 
The
business logic has been put into a Business Rule Engine (BRE)
system\footnote{If you are not technical and terms like `application server',

But there it doesn’t. Apparently, I am still missing something. 

G


 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-15 Thread Gerben Wierda

mkii result



On 14 Mar 2015, at 17:14, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
 
 - The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and 
 the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
 - \startitemize[packed,joinedup] inserts whitespace between the list and the 
 paragraph before it where mkii doesn’t
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Do you have a example because I can’t reproduce it.
 
 \showgrid
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{\contextmark}
 
 \input knuth
 
 \startitemize[packed,joinedup]
 \item One
 \item Two
 \item Three
 \stopitemize
 
 \stoptext 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-15 Thread Gerben Wierda

mkiv result



On 14 Mar 2015, at 17:14, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
 
 - The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and 
 the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
 - \startitemize[packed,joinedup] inserts whitespace between the list and the 
 paragraph before it where mkii doesn’t
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Do you have a example because I can’t reproduce it.
 
 \showgrid
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{\contextmark}
 
 \input knuth
 
 \startitemize[packed,joinedup]
 \item One
 \item Two
 \item Three
 \stopitemize
 
 \stoptext 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-15 Thread Gerben Wierda

I’m struggling to make a minimal example.It happens in my project, so it is a 
result of my …/products/prd_book.tex and ../environment/env_cataoia.tex and the 
test file. I need to give three files, two of which differ between mkii and 
mkiv because of different font commands and lettrine vs initial

prd_book.tex ===
\startproduct prd_book
\project project_cataoia

\starttext
\start
\startstandardmakeup[doublesided=no]
\ss
\hairline \start
\blank[line]
\switchtobodyfont[16pt]\bf
\leftaligned{Chess}%
\blank[line]
\leftaligned{and the Art of}%
\blank[line]
\leftaligned{Enterprise Architecture}%
\stop
\hairline \blank[line]
\leftaligned{Making the right moves to manage Business--IT complexity}%
\hairline \blank[line]\rightaligned{Gerben Wierda}%
\blank[6cm]\start\leftskip=10cm\hairline\stop
\rightaligned{2015}%
\stopstandardmakeup
\startstandardmakeup[doublesided=no,page=no]
~\blank[2in]
\start
\switchtobodyfont[9pt]
Copyright \copyright\ 2015 by Gerben Wierda, The Netherlands\crlf
Image used on cover (and on the inside) \copyright\ iStock.com/Antonio
\blank[4mm]
Published by R\A, The Netherlands
\blank[4mm]
Typeset with \TeX, using the mkii version of the \SSCONTEXT\ macro package.
\blank[4mm]
Neither the author, nor the publisher, nor the printer, nor the distributor,
nor the seller accept any responsibility or liability for loss or damage
occasioned to any person or property through using the material, instructions,
methods or ideas contained in or distributed with this book, or acting or
refraining from acting as a result of such use. The author, publisher,
printer, distributor, and seller expressly disclaim all implied warranties,
including merchantability of fitness for any particular purpose.
\blank[4mm]
ISBN 978-90-819840-5-8
\blank[4mm]
Contact info: {\sl i...@enterprisechess.com}\crlf Web site: {\sl
http://enterprisechess.com}\crlf Suggested hashtag: {\sl \#eachess}
\stop
\stopstandardmakeup
\startstandardmakeup[doublesided=no]
\start
\switchtobodyfont[16pt]
\midaligned{The world is not {\blackboard Q}, it is {\blackboard R}}
\blank[6cm]
\stop
\stopstandardmakeup
\stop
\startfrontmatter
\startbuffer [chapter:quote]
%When teaching a rapidly changing technology, perspective is more important
%than content\crlf
%{\tf Richard~Pattis}
The most erroneous stories are those we think we know best --- and therefore
never scrutinize or question.\crlf
{\tf Stephen Jay Gould}
\stopbuffer
\noheaderandfooterlines
\start
\title[h:toc]{Contents}
\setuppagenumber[number=3]
\placelist[chapter,chaptertext]
\stop
\component c_loosely
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\component c_inconvenient
\component c_goals
\component c_orthodoxy
\component c_intermezzo
\component c_chess
\component c_model
\component c_future
\component c_hurdles
\stopbodymatter
\startappendices
%   \component c_logic
\component c_cloud
\component c_current
\component c_fsatemplate
\component c_psatemplate
\component c_bibliography
\component c_endnotes
\component c_index
\stopappendices
\stoptext

\stopcomponent
=

env_cataoia.tex mkii =
\startenvironment env_cataoia
\project project_cataoia
%
\definedescription [description]
[location=serried, width=broad, hang=fit, margin=standard,
headstyle=bold]
\definestartstop [descriptions] [before=\startpacked,
after=\stoppacked]
%
\def\SSCONTEXT {Con\kern-.15em\TeX t}
%
%
\definepapersize[smallpaperback][width=5in,height=8in]
\setuppapersize[smallpaperback][smallpaperback]
\setuplayout[location=doublesided]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupsectionblock[frontpart][page=no]
\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=no]
\setupsectionblock[appendix][page=no]
\setupsectionblock[backpart][page=no]

% Every chapter body text starts with lettrine:
\usemodule[lettrine]
\setuplettrine[Lines=3,
   Hang=.5,
   Oversize=0,
   Raise=0,
   Findent=0pt,
   Nindent=0em,
   Slope=0em,
   Ante=,
   FontHook=,
   TextFont=\sc,
   Image=no]

% Every chapter starts with a quote on the LHS page:
\setuphead
  [chapter]
  [page=,
   before={\setups[chapter:before]},
   after={\setups[chapter:after]}]

\startsetups chapter:before
\page[left]
\noheaderandfooterlines
\startalignment[left,nothyphenated]
\startnarrower[4*left]
\em \getbuffer[chapter:quote]
\stopnarrower
\stopalignment
\resetsetups[quote:text]
\page[right]
\noheaderandfooterlines
\blank[force,2*big]
\stopsetups

\startsetups chapter:after
\blank[3*big]
\stopsetups

% Mark TODO items in the text
\def\todo#1{{\red --- --- --- TODO: {#1} --- --- ---}}

%

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-15 Thread Gerben Wierda

The itemize white space issue was a difference in handling \reference. In mkii 
a \reference between \startitemize and the first item did not produce empty 
space, in mkiv it does. I moved the \reference to inside the \item

G

On 14 Mar 2015, at 17:14, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
 
 - The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and 
 the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
 - \startitemize[packed,joinedup] inserts whitespace between the list and the 
 paragraph before it where mkii doesn’t
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Do you have a example because I can’t reproduce it.
 
 \showgrid
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{\contextmark}
 
 \input knuth
 
 \startitemize[packed,joinedup]
 \item One
 \item Two
 \item Three
 \stopitemize
 
 \stoptext 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


 Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
 
 - The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and 
 the first paragraph. How can I influence this?

The different space before the \chapter is caused by the “fixed” keyword for 
\blank
which produce different result with MkII and MkIV and the MkIV behaviour need
to be corrected.

The space after \chapter comes from your \writetolist entry and you can correct
this with the \GotoPar command at the end of the entry as shown below.

 begin example
\showgrid

\setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[force,2*line]}]

\starttext

\chapter{Knuth}

\writetolist[chapter]{}{}\GotoPar

\input knuth

\stoptext
 end example

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


 Am 15.03.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 The itemize white space issue was a difference in handling \reference. In 
 mkii a \reference between \startitemize and the first item did not produce 
 empty space, in mkiv it does. I moved the \reference to inside the \item

For numbered items you can use the optional argument of \item to set a 
reference.

\starttext

\startitemize[n]
\item[item:one] First item
\item[item:two] Second item
\stopitemize

\page

Take a look at \in{item}[item:two] on \at{page}[item:two].

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues

2015-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


 Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
 
 I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
 
 - The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and 
 the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
 - \startitemize[packed,joinedup] inserts whitespace between the list and the 
 paragraph before it where mkii doesn’t
 
 How can I fix this?

Do you have a example because I can’t reproduce it.

\showgrid

\starttext

\chapter{\contextmark}

\input knuth

\startitemize[packed,joinedup]
\item One
\item Two
\item Three
\stopitemize

\stoptext 

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-12 Thread luigi scarso

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:

 On 10 Mar 2015, at 12:03, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

  On 3/10/2015 11:38 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
  Nobody? Is there a way to get the ‘more options’ mentioned on
  ConTeXtgarden to work in mkiv?
 
  there are some examples in the test suits (typesetting/initials*)

 And where are the test suites? They’re not part of the distribution.


http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/latest/cont-tst.7z




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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-10 Thread Gerben Wierda

Nobody? Is there a way to get the ‘more options’ mentioned on ConTeXtgarden to 
work in mkiv?

G

On 01 Mar 2015, at 22:43, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:

 On 01 Mar 2015, at 11:54, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 3/1/2015 11:39 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
 Nobody?
 
 On 27 Feb 2015, at 18:01, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl
 mailto:gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:
 
 I am using lettrine in mkii. I am trying to convert a project to mkiv.
 I’d like to use lettrine here too.
 
 \usemodule[lettrine]
 \setuplettrine[Lines=3,
   Hang=.5,
   Oversize=0,
   Raise=0,
   Findent=0pt,
   Nindent=0em,
   Slope=0em,
   Ante=,
   FontHook=,
   TextFont=\sc,
   Image=no]
 
 \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system
 
 What do I have to change for mkiv?
 
 search for 'initials' (probably on the wiki somewhere)
 
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials
 
 Halfway down, lettrine for if you need more options. But the given example 
 does not work in mkiv
 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-10 Thread Hans Hagen


On 3/10/2015 11:38 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

Nobody? Is there a way to get the ‘more options’ mentioned on
ConTeXtgarden to work in mkiv?


there are some examples in the test suits (typesetting/initials*)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-10 Thread Gerben Wierda

On 10 Mar 2015, at 12:03, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 3/10/2015 11:38 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
 Nobody? Is there a way to get the ‘more options’ mentioned on
 ConTeXtgarden to work in mkiv?
 
 there are some examples in the test suits (typesetting/initials*)

And where are the test suites? They’re not part of the distribution.

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-10 Thread Gerben Wierda

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test_suite links to 
https://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/contexttest/scmsvn/?action=AccessInfo 
which is a dead link. Most if not all links to supelec on that page are dead

On 10 Mar 2015, at 18:11, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:

 On 10 Mar 2015, at 12:03, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 3/10/2015 11:38 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
 Nobody? Is there a way to get the ‘more options’ mentioned on
 ConTeXtgarden to work in mkiv?
 
 there are some examples in the test suits (typesetting/initials*)
 
 And where are the test suites? They’re not part of the distribution.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-10 Thread Gerben Wierda

After studying that, I’ve been unable to find out how to do the following.

\starttext
\placeinitial {``L}{\kap{\bf et me}} tell you a little
story.\index{Wittgenstein+ice floor analogy} There was once a
young man who dreamed of reducing the world to pure logic. Because he was a
very clever young man, he actually managed to do it. When he had finished his
work, he stood back and admired it. It was beautiful! A world purged of
imperfection and indetermenency. Countless acres of gleaming ice stretching to
the horizon.  So the clever young man looked around the world he had created
and decided to explore it. He took one step forward and fell flat on his back.
You see, he had forgotten about friction! The ice was smooth and level and
stainless, but you couldn't walk there. So the clever young man sat down and
wept bitter tears. But as he grew into a wise old man, he came to understand
that roughness and ambiguity aren't imperfections, they are what make the
\stoptext

I’d like to
- Have ``L in the initial (quote mark + L)
- Have the initial a bit in the margin, but not fully
- Have the top of the initial not rise above the top of the first line

On 10 Mar 2015, at 18:35, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:
 On 10 Mar 2015, at 12:03, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
  On 3/10/2015 11:38 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
  Nobody? Is there a way to get the ‘more options’ mentioned on
  ConTeXtgarden to work in mkiv?
 
  there are some examples in the test suits (typesetting/initials*)
 
 And where are the test suites? They’re not part of the distribution.
 
 
 http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/latest/cont-tst.7z
 
 
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-10 Thread Hans Hagen


On 3/10/2015 10:51 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

After studying that, I’ve been unable to find out how to do the following.

\starttext
\placeinitial {``L}{\kap{\bf et me}} tell you a little
story.\index{Wittgenstein+ice floor analogy} There was once a
young man who dreamed of reducing the world to pure logic. Because he was a
very clever young man, he actually managed to do it. When he had
finished his
work, he stood back and admired it. It was beautiful! A world purged of
imperfection and indetermenency. Countless acres of gleaming ice
stretching to
the horizon.  So the clever young man looked around the world he had created
and decided to explore it. He took one step forward and fell flat on his
back.
You see, he had forgotten about friction! The ice was smooth and level and
stainless, but you couldn't walk there. So the clever young man sat down and
wept bitter tears. But as he grew into a wise old man, he came to understand
that roughness and ambiguity aren't imperfections, they are what make the
\stoptext

I’d like to
- Have ``L in the initial (quote mark + L)
- Have the initial a bit in the margin, but not fully
- Have the top of the initial not rise above the top of the first line


\setupbodyfont[dejavu]

\starttext

\setupinitial[font=Bold cp 
\measure{initial:n},hoffset=2ex,voffset=1\lineheight,n=2,m=2,distance=-1ex]

\placeinitial `What is this. \input ward \par

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv document saved as xml.

2015-03-03 Thread Hans Hagen


On 3/3/2015 1:54 PM, John Culleton wrote:

The WIKI is in transition and the other posts
here deawl with advanced details. So I have a
simple question:
Given a mkiv document how do I export it to a
generic xml docuument?


\setupbackend
  [export=yes]

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-01 Thread Gerben Wierda

On 01 Mar 2015, at 11:54, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 3/1/2015 11:39 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
 Nobody?
 
 On 27 Feb 2015, at 18:01, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl
 mailto:gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:
 
 I am using lettrine in mkii. I am trying to convert a project to mkiv.
 I’d like to use lettrine here too.
 
 \usemodule[lettrine]
 \setuplettrine[Lines=3,
   Hang=.5,
   Oversize=0,
   Raise=0,
   Findent=0pt,
   Nindent=0em,
   Slope=0em,
   Ante=,
   FontHook=,
   TextFont=\sc,
   Image=no]
 
 \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system
 
 What do I have to change for mkiv?
 
 search for 'initials' (probably on the wiki somewhere)

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials

Halfway down, lettrine for if you need more options. But the given example 
does not work in mkiv

G

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-01 Thread Gerben Wierda

Nobody?

On 27 Feb 2015, at 18:01, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:

 I am using lettrine in mkii. I am trying to convert a project to mkiv. I’d 
 like to use lettrine here too.
 
 \usemodule[lettrine]
 \setuplettrine[Lines=3,
Hang=.5,
Oversize=0,
Raise=0,
Findent=0pt,
Nindent=0em,
Slope=0em,
Ante=,
FontHook=,
TextFont=\sc,
Image=no]
 
 \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system
 
 What do I have to change for mkiv?
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv and lettrine

2015-03-01 Thread Hans Hagen


On 3/1/2015 11:39 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

Nobody?

On 27 Feb 2015, at 18:01, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl
mailto:gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:


I am using lettrine in mkii. I am trying to convert a project to mkiv.
I’d like to use lettrine here too.

\usemodule[lettrine]
\setuplettrine[Lines=3,
   Hang=.5,
   Oversize=0,
   Raise=0,
   Findent=0pt,
   Nindent=0em,
   Slope=0em,
   Ante=,
   FontHook=,
   TextFont=\sc,
   Image=no]

\lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system

What do I have to change for mkiv?


search for 'initials' (probably on the wiki somewhere) .. from the sources:

%D \starttyping
%D \placeinitial \input ward \par \input ward \par \placeinitial \input 
tufte

%D
%D \setupinitial
%D   [location=text,
%Dn=2,
%Dcolor=darkred,
%Ddistance=-1em,
%Dhoffset=1em,
%Dvoffset=-3ex,
%Dbefore=\blank]
%D
%D \placeinitial \input ward \par \input ward \placeinitial \input tufte

% \setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt]
%
% \startbuffer
% \setinitial[two]D. E. Knuth   \ignorespaces\input knuth \par
% \setinitial[two]  Knuth   \ignorespaces\input knuth \par
% \setinitial[two] \quotation{D. E. Knuth}  \ignorespaces\input knuth \par
% \setinitial[two] \quotation  {Knuth}  \ignorespaces\input knuth \par
% \setinitial[two]  [text={D.E. Knuth}] \ignorespaces\input knuth \par
% \setinitial[two]   [m=4] D. E. Knuth  \ignorespaces\input knuth \par
% \stopbuffer
%
% \type{m=2}  \start 
\defineinitial[two][m=2,method=none]  \getbuffer \page \stop
% \type{m=1,method=auto}  \start 
\defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto]  \getbuffer \page \stop
% \type{m=1,method={auto,first,last}} \start 
\defineinitial[two][m=1,method={first,auto,last}] \getbuffer \page \stop




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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv \setupnotedefinition

2015-02-27 Thread Gerben Wierda

Sorry, using an older version. I have a recent one and now I run into something 
else

G

On 27 Feb 2015, at 16:18, Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl wrote:

 I’ve done my first run using mkiv on a mkii project, testing a conversion 
 from mkii to mkiv.
 
 My first run ended in 
 
 162 \setupinteraction
 
 
 ? 
 
 tex errorerror on line 153 in file ../environments/env_cataoia.tex: 
 ! Undefined control sequence
 
 l.153 \setupnotedefinition
 
 [endnote][indenting={yes,medium},style={\switchtobod...
 
 The line says:
 
 \setupnotedefinition[endnote][indenting={yes,medium},style={\switchtobodyfont[10pt]}]
 
 What do I need to change?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-10-15 Thread Alan BRASLAU

On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:12:43 +0200
Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who can tell me please how to hide \cite output in the neatest way
 possible, while keeping the semantics in tact (i.e. establish that a
 reference was made)?

\nocite
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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-10-15 Thread Alan BRASLAU

On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:12:43 +0200
Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote:

 My .bib file is being autogenerated by Mendeley, a reference manager,
 and changes often in terms of contents. That workflow seems
 incompatible with your solution. Furthermore, I may not let the
 authors appear in citations with all their names every time, it should
 be limited to the first time (the APA 6 rules, that I referred to).
 With your solution, 1 out of n citations would be correct, while in
 the current situation (without manual intervention) n-1 out of n would
 be correct (all but the first).

Although it is not yet production ready, we are working on this issue
with the new mkiv-bibliography subsystem. The rendering of citations
and the rendering of bibliography lists can be quite complicated, as
you are showing.

I note a second issue here: As you are working with an
autogenerated .bib file, you may have less control over its contents,
so playing with the field contents is not a solution.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-10-09 Thread Robert Blackstone


On 9 Oct 2014, at 08:52 , Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote:

  Am I correct in that you would enforce a single concrete
 citation format throughout the document that way?
No, it would just change the Author-field for one particular entry that is 
causing trouble.
One can correct all faulty entries that way of cause. 

  You were asking for comments
 about your solution, I hope the following remarks are informative to
 you.
 
 My .bib file is being autogenerated by Mendeley, a reference manager,
 and changes often in terms of contents. That workflow seems
 incompatible with your solution. Furthermore, I may not let the
 authors appear in citations with all their names every time, it should
 be limited to the first time (the APA 6 rules, that I referred to).
 With your solution, 1 out of n citations would be correct, while in
 the current situation (without manual intervention) n-1 out of n would
 be correct (all but the first).
 
 I clearly misunderstood your problem, which, as I see now, thanks to your 
remarks, is rather different from mine. 
I would not have sent you my silly answer if I had known this.

On the other hand, I too need citations and bibliographic references to appear 
in different forms, three in my case:
In the Bibliography with Author: Last name, first name, 
In the text and footnotes the first time with Author(s): First name(s), last 
name(s),  and full title of the work, and in all the following citations with 
Author(s): Last name(s) only and short title of the work. 
I could think of no other way to accomplish this than to generate the .bbl, 
make two copies, “Inversed Author” and “Short Title”, make the necessary 
changes in these .bbl’s, including the cite-key to mark it for these two 
alternatives. I should add that I could not use apa  but an apa-like, modified 
in many details which also forced me to tweak the .bbl.

It all seems a lot of work but it is straightforward, it works for me and it 
protects me from an enormous amount of frustration.
(And I’m glad my .bib-file is not autogenerated.)

Best regards,

Robert Blackstone



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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-10-08 Thread Robert Blackstone


On 6 Oct 2014, at 23:33 , Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to
 reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If
 necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually.
 
 Best,
 
 Sander Maijers
 
 
 \setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]
 \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
 
 \starttext
\cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
\cite[Zhou2012]
 \stoptext
 
 
 Incorrectly produces:
 
 (Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)
 
 
 Instead of:
 
 (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012)
 
 

What I would do is, for the final processing, not to load the .bib-file but the 
.bbl that was generated in the previous run. You can open that file in any text 
processor (I mostly use TeXShop) and manually change the Author for this 
particular entry. In the .bbl the field Author has this form: \author[]{}[]{}{} 
.

You should be able to solve your problem by putting inside the last pair of 
brackets exactly how you would like your authors et. al. to appear in your 
output. Place the whole lot again between brackets:  \author[]{}[]{}{{Zhou, Tom 
Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin}} or whatever you want.

But again,  don’t input the bib-file. Every time you do that the old .bbl is 
overwritten and your correction will be lost. ConTeXt uses the .bbl, not the 
.bib.

I hope this helps.
Best regards,

Robert Blackstone

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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-10-08 Thread Sander Maijers

Thank you Robert! I was planning to respond to your private message as
well. Am I correct in that you would enforce a single concrete
citation format throughout the document that way? In that case, I' m
sorry to report that does not help me. You were asking for comments
about your solution, I hope the following remarks are informative to
you.

My .bib file is being autogenerated by Mendeley, a reference manager,
and changes often in terms of contents. That workflow seems
incompatible with your solution. Furthermore, I may not let the
authors appear in citations with all their names every time, it should
be limited to the first time (the APA 6 rules, that I referred to).
With your solution, 1 out of n citations would be correct, while in
the current situation (without manual intervention) n-1 out of n would
be correct (all but the first).

So, am I out of luck? Should I maybe have an 'invisible' citation with
the first citation, spelling out that citation myself, while still
recording that the work was cited and is to be listed in the
bibliography.

Who can tell me please how to hide \cite output in the neatest way
possible, while keeping the semantics in tact (i.e. establish that a
reference was made)?

Best,

Sander Maijers


On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Robert Blackstone
blackstone.rob...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6 Oct 2014, at 23:33 , Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to
 reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If
 necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually.

 Best,

 Sander Maijers


 \setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]

 \setuppublications[alternative=apa]

 \starttext
\cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
\cite[Zhou2012]
 \stoptext


 Incorrectly produces:

 (Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)


 Instead of:

 (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012)




 What I would do is, for the final processing, not to load the .bib-file but
 the .bbl that was generated in the previous run. You can open that file in
 any text processor (I mostly use TeXShop) and manually change the Author for
 this particular entry. In the .bbl the field Author has this form:
 \author[]{}[]{}{} .

 You should be able to solve your problem by putting inside the last pair of
 brackets exactly how you would like your authors et. al. to appear in your
 output. Place the whole lot again between brackets:  \author[]{}[]{}{{Zhou,
 Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin}} or whatever you want.

 But again,  don’t input the bib-file. Every time you do that the old .bbl is
 overwritten and your correction will be lost. ConTeXt uses the .bbl, not the
 .bib.

 I hope this helps.
 Best regards,

 Robert Blackstone


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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-10-06 Thread Sander Maijers

Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to
reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If
necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually.

Best,

Sander Maijers

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote:

 Hello,

 These are the sort of details that we are trying to address with the
 new bibliography subsystem. The APA rules (reference: Publication
 Manual of the APA, 6th edition) give many special cases, some of which
 can be a bit tricky.

 The mkii/mkiv bibliography module that you are using does a good job but
 is not so sophisticated. The new mkiv rewrite is (unfortunately) still
 work in progress and is not quite production ready. The new subsystem
 was one topic of the recent ConTeXt meeting.

 You can continue to address bibliography questions to the list, or to me
 directly as I am presently working on this with Hans in my spare
 time (Luigi and Thomas are also actively involved). This does not
 solve your immediate problem, however.

 Alan


 On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:19:36 +0200
 Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I use
 
   This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972)
  
   ConTeXt  ver: 2014.09.27 14:46 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.9.30  int:
   english/english
  
 
  I want citations to respect APA rules, as described here:
 
 http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/11/the-proper-use-of-et-al-in-apa-style.htm
  l
 
  *Problem*: when I cite a work with three authors, et al.  appears
  in the first citation.
 
  *Example*:
 
  \setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]
   \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
  
   \starttext
   \cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
   \cite[Zhou2012]
   \stoptext
  
 
  Incorrectly produces:
 
   (Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)
  
 
  Instead of:
 
   (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012)
 
 
  Where the BibTeX entry is
 
   @inproceedings{Zhou2012,
   address = {New York, New York, USA},
   annote = {2/5},
   author = {Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin},
   booktitle = {Proceedings of the 21st international conference
   companion on World Wide Web - WWW '12 Companion},
   doi = {10.1145/2187980.2188201},
   isbn = {9781450312301},
   keywords = {classification,community question answering,question
   routing}, month = apr,
   pages = {783},
   publisher = {ACM Press},
   title = {{A classification-based approach to question routing in
   community question answering}},
   url = {http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2187980.2188201},
   year = {2012}
   }
  
 
  I hope someone can help me with this.
 
  Best regards,
  Sander Maijers



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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-10-05 Thread Thangalin

Hi,

One more note about et al.: the period can get duplicated. For example:

Mohammad Allahbakhsh, Aleksandar Ignjatovic, Boualem Bena-
tallah, Seyed-Mehdi-Reza Beheshti and Norman Foo et al.. An
analytic approach to people evaluation in crowdsourcing systems.

@article{allahbakhsh@crowdsourcing,
  author={Mohammad Allahbakhsh and Aleksandar Ignjatovic and Boualem
Benatallah and Seyed{-}Mehdi{-}Reza Beheshti and Norman Foo and Elisa
Bertino},
  title={An Analytic Approach to People Evaluation in Crowdsourcing Systems},
  journal={CoRR},
  year={2012},
  volume={abs/1211.3200},
  timestamp={Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:27:03 +0200},
  biburl={http://dblp.uni-trier.de/rec/bib/journals/corr/abs-1211-3200},
  bibsource={dblp computer science bibliography, http://dblp.org},
  url={http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.3200},
}

There should only be one period. I think this was mentioned a while
back and might be related to removing the period in cases where
punctuation (such as a question mark) already exists.
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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-09-30 Thread Alan BRASLAU

Hello,

These are the sort of details that we are trying to address with the
new bibliography subsystem. The APA rules (reference: Publication
Manual of the APA, 6th edition) give many special cases, some of which
can be a bit tricky.

The mkii/mkiv bibliography module that you are using does a good job but
is not so sophisticated. The new mkiv rewrite is (unfortunately) still
work in progress and is not quite production ready. The new subsystem
was one topic of the recent ConTeXt meeting.

You can continue to address bibliography questions to the list, or to me
directly as I am presently working on this with Hans in my spare
time (Luigi and Thomas are also actively involved). This does not
solve your immediate problem, however.

Alan


On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:19:36 +0200
Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I use
 
  This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972)
 
  ConTeXt  ver: 2014.09.27 14:46 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.9.30  int:
  english/english
 
 
 I want citations to respect APA rules, as described here:
 http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/11/the-proper-use-of-et-al-in-apa-style.htm
 l
 
 *Problem*: when I cite a work with three authors, et al.  appears
 in the first citation.
 
 *Example*:
 
 \setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]
  \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
 
  \starttext
  \cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
  \cite[Zhou2012]
  \stoptext
 
 
 Incorrectly produces:
 
  (Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)
 
 
 Instead of:
 
  (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012)
 
 
 Where the BibTeX entry is
 
  @inproceedings{Zhou2012,
  address = {New York, New York, USA},
  annote = {2/5},
  author = {Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin},
  booktitle = {Proceedings of the 21st international conference
  companion on World Wide Web - WWW '12 Companion},
  doi = {10.1145/2187980.2188201},
  isbn = {9781450312301},
  keywords = {classification,community question answering,question
  routing}, month = apr,
  pages = {783},
  publisher = {ACM Press},
  title = {{A classification-based approach to question routing in
  community question answering}},
  url = {http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2187980.2188201},
  year = {2012}
  }
 
 
 I hope someone can help me with this.
 
 Best regards,
 Sander Maijers



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Re: [NTG-context] (MKIV beta) APA citations: et al. incorrectly written

2014-09-30 Thread Sander Maijers

Hi Alan,

I'm writing a thesis in ConTeXt so I'm keen to make this work. I can test
things, and I hope that the basics of APA are covered already? Also, a
temporary solution could be to allow explicit choice of the citation format
and to rely on the author to make the proper choice, as long as automatic
formatting hasn't been completed. All I want in the short term is to keep
track of references to show them in a proper format - it needn't be easy
and/or automatic for now.

Best,

Sander Maijers

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote:

 Hello,

 These are the sort of details that we are trying to address with the
 new bibliography subsystem. The APA rules (reference: Publication
 Manual of the APA, 6th edition) give many special cases, some of which
 can be a bit tricky.

 The mkii/mkiv bibliography module that you are using does a good job but
 is not so sophisticated. The new mkiv rewrite is (unfortunately) still
 work in progress and is not quite production ready. The new subsystem
 was one topic of the recent ConTeXt meeting.

 You can continue to address bibliography questions to the list, or to me
 directly as I am presently working on this with Hans in my spare
 time (Luigi and Thomas are also actively involved). This does not
 solve your immediate problem, however.

 Alan


 On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:19:36 +0200
 Sander Maijers s.n.maij...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I use
 
   This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972)
  
   ConTeXt  ver: 2014.09.27 14:46 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.9.30  int:
   english/english
  
 
  I want citations to respect APA rules, as described here:
 
 http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/11/the-proper-use-of-et-al-in-apa-style.htm
  l
 
  *Problem*: when I cite a work with three authors, et al.  appears
  in the first citation.
 
  *Example*:
 
  \setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]
   \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
  
   \starttext
   \cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
   \cite[Zhou2012]
   \stoptext
  
 
  Incorrectly produces:
 
   (Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)
  
 
  Instead of:
 
   (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu,  King, 2012)
 
 
  Where the BibTeX entry is
 
   @inproceedings{Zhou2012,
   address = {New York, New York, USA},
   annote = {2/5},
   author = {Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin},
   booktitle = {Proceedings of the 21st international conference
   companion on World Wide Web - WWW '12 Companion},
   doi = {10.1145/2187980.2188201},
   isbn = {9781450312301},
   keywords = {classification,community question answering,question
   routing}, month = apr,
   pages = {783},
   publisher = {ACM Press},
   title = {{A classification-based approach to question routing in
   community question answering}},
   url = {http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2187980.2188201},
   year = {2012}
   }
  
 
  I hope someone can help me with this.
 
  Best regards,
  Sander Maijers



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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2014-04-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 22.04.2014 um 02:57 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com:

 Has any progress been made in the past few years implementing modifiable 
 separators for captions under MKIV? This was raised as an issue by (at least) 
 Mojca Miklavec in December 2010 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg51542.html) and by Andy 
 Thomas 18 months later 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg63937.html). (Their 
 issues with stopper have been resolved. In MKIV it is numberstopper.)
 
 Here is an MWE demonstrating the problem. It compiles cleanly, but the 
 separator remains the default period. With MKII, it generates a figure with a 
 hyphen and not a period.
 \setupcaptions[separator=-]

\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2014-04-22 Thread Rik Kabel


On 2014-04-22 02:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 22.04.2014 um 02:57 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com 
mailto:cont...@rik.users.panix.com:


Has any progress been made in the past few years implementing 
modifiable separators for captions under MKIV? This was raised as an 
issue by (at least) Mojca Miklavec in December 2010 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg51542.html) and 
by Andy Thomas 18 months later 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg63937.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg63937.html). 
(Their issues with stopper have been resolved. In MKIV it is 
numberstopper.)


Here is an MWE demonstrating the problem. It compiles cleanly, but 
the separator remains the default period. With MKII, it generates a 
figure with a hyphen and not a period.


\setupcaptions[separator=-]


\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]

Wolfgang



As always, thank you.

I have updated the wiki page for setupcaptions. The updated includes a 
reworded description of the suffix key and new descriptions for the 
stopper/numberstopper and separator/prefixconnector keys.


(There are many other keys that are not documented, and a few at least 
that differ between MKII and MKIV, but I do not have the time at the 
moment to test all of them.)


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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV XML and |c|c|c|

2014-01-20 Thread Hans Hagen


On 1/19/2014 11:53 AM, Kate F wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to glue MkIV XML handling to ConTeXt's tabulation. My
markup has a HTML-style table model, with an arbitary number of col
elements.

My problem is to produce the |c|c|c|c| format based on the number of
col elements I have, rather than hardcoding a specific number of
columns.

I thought I could do something like this, but unfortunately the string
produced by \xmlconcat{#1}{col}{\|} seems to be ignored:

 % in practice this would produce various alignments, not just c
 \startxmlsetups xml:col
 c
 \stopxmlsetups

 \startxmlsetups xml:table
 \starttabulate[\|\xmlconcat{#1}{col}{\|}\|]
 \xmlall{#1}{thead|tbody}
 \stoptabulate
 \stopxmlsetups

Whereas this works fine, as I'd expect: \starttabulate[|c|c|c|c|]

(I'm also confused about the escaping for \| there. I guess the [] is
a special environment, with | being given a different catcode,
perhaps?)

Is there a way to do this, with the number of columns and their
alignment generated from the input XML?


\usmeodule[cals]

also see the test suite mkiv/xml/tables* etc

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV in the wiki?

2013-06-24 Thread Sietse Brouwer

Hi Pablo,

MkIV-compilation is already enabled -- just use

context mode=mkiv source=yes
(showing the source is optional, but usually what you want)
/context

For more info on the `context` tags:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Help:Context

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV in the wiki?

2013-06-24 Thread Pablo Rodríguez

On 24/06/13 09:52, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
 Hi Pablo,
 
 MkIV-compilation is already enabled -- just use
 
 context mode=mkiv source=yes
 (showing the source is optional, but usually what you want)
 /context
 
 For more info on the `context` tags:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Help:Context

Hi Sietse,

many thanks for your tip and sorry for the noise.

Cheers,


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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV problem+fix with \framed[location=depth / height / hanging]

2013-05-15 Thread Hans Hagen


On 5/14/2013 11:00 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:


--- This is the fixed code 

\installframedlocator \v!hanging % best with strut=no
   {}
- {\dp\b_framed_normal\scratchdimen
+ {\scratchdimen\ht\b_framed_normal
+  \setbox\b_framed_normal\hbox{\lower\scratchdimen\box\b_framed_normal}%
+  \dp\b_framed_normal\scratchdimen
\ht\b_framed_normal\zeropoint
\hbox{\box\b_framed_normal}}

\installframedlocator \v!depth
   {}
-  \ht\b_framed_normal\dimexpr\ht\b_framed_normal-\strutdp\relax
+ {\setbox\b_framed_normal\hbox{\lower\strutdp\box\b_framed_normal}%
+  \ht\b_framed_normal\dimexpr\ht\b_framed_normal-\strutdp\relax
\dp\b_framed_normal\strutdp
\hbox{\box\b_framed_normal}}

\installframedlocator \v!height
   {}
- {\dp\b_framed_normal\dimexpr\ht\b_framed_normal-\strutht\relax
+ {\scratchdimen\dimexpr \ht\b_framed_normal - \strutht \relax
+  \setbox\b_framed_normal\hbox{\lower\scratchdimen\box\b_framed_normal}%
+  \dp\b_framed_normal\dimexpr\ht\b_framed_normal-\strutht\relax
\ht\b_framed_normal\strutht
\hbox{\box\b_framed_normal}}


no need for the last \hbox then ..

\installframedlocator \v!hanging % best with strut=no
  {}
  {\scratchdimen\ht\b_framed_normal
   \setbox\b_framed_normal\hbox{\lower\scratchdimen\box\b_framed_normal}%
   \dp\b_framed_normal\scratchdimen
   \ht\b_framed_normal\zeropoint
   \box\b_framed_normal}

\installframedlocator \v!depth
  {}
  {\setbox\b_framed_normal\hbox{\lower\strutdp\box\b_framed_normal}%
   \ht\b_framed_normal\dimexpr\ht\b_framed_normal-\strutdp\relax
   \dp\b_framed_normal\strutdp
   \box\b_framed_normal}

\installframedlocator \v!height
  {}
  {\scratchdimen\dimexpr \ht\b_framed_normal - \strutht \relax
   \setbox\b_framed_normal\hbox{\lower\scratchdimen\box\b_framed_normal}%
   \dp\b_framed_normal\dimexpr\ht\b_framed_normal-\strutht\relax
   \ht\b_framed_normal\strutht
   \box\b_framed_normal}



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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV problem+fix with \framed[location=depth / height / hanging]

2013-05-15 Thread Hans Hagen


On 5/14/2013 11:00 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:


\setupcolors[state=start]


this is no longer needed in mkiv where colors are enabled by default


\setupblackrules[depth=\strutdepth,height=\strutheight,width=1mm,color=red]

 ...

.. added to test zip ...

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV problem+fix with \framed[location=depth / height / hanging]

2013-05-15 Thread Sietse Brouwer

Sietse wrote:
 \setupcolors[state=start]

Hans wrote:
 this is no longer needed in mkiv where colors are enabled by default

Leaving it in allowed me to use the same code to test MkII and MkIV. :-)

 .. added to test zip ...

I haven't heard of that. Is that the unofficial test suite [1], or is
it a zip in the distribution somewhere?
[1] https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV problem+fix with \framed[location=depth / height / hanging]

2013-05-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 15.05.2013 um 12:26 schrieb Sietse Brouwer sbbrou...@gmail.com:

 Hans wrote:
 .. added to test zip ...
 
 I haven't heard of that. Is that the unofficial test suite [1], or is
 it a zip in the distribution somewhere?
 [1] https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite

You can find it on the pragma site: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/download-1.htm

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV problem+fix with \framed[location=depth / height / hanging]

2013-05-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 14.05.2013 um 23:00 schrieb Sietse Brouwer sbbrou...@gmail.com:

 Hi Hans,
 
 I believe that in MkIV some \framed[location=...] keys are not
 working, namely `depth`, `height`, and `hanging`. In MkIV these all
 place the bottom of the frame flush with the baseline, like
 [location=].  In MkII they behave more sensibly, as follows:
 
 * depth: place bottom of frame flush with bottom of the line (i.e.
 \strutdepth below baseline)
 * height: place top of frame flush with top of line
 * hanging: place top of frame flush with baseline


The reason why all the location alternatives don’t work is because
the original \vbox for the content is converted to a \hbox which ignores
the changed values (even though the changed values for the height/depth
are used as seen at the surrounding box). The process to create a \hbox
happens when the background is applied with:

\def\pack_framed_add_background
  {\setbox\b_framed_normal\hbox % was vbox
   ...
  \egroup}}

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv in endless loop

2013-02-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 08.02.2013 um 10:54 schrieb geert dobbels dobbels.ge...@googlemail.com:

 Hello,
 
 I have been using context rather extensively until 2008 and then moved to 
 another job where I did not use anything tex related.  After those nearly 5 
 years, I decided to pick up context again.
 
 I wanted to try mkiv because the possibility of using openfonts looked 
 interesting, so I made a tex file based on one that worked years ago, changed 
 the font definitions to the texgyre fonts and gave it a try.  The font defs 
 seem to be ok (at least there are no error msges related to fonts) but after 
 context gets through my tex file, it enters an endless loop which I have to 
 interrupt.  I checked the file over and over and cannot find any error.  I 
 tested a short hello world tex file, and that one worked fine.
 
 any clues on what could be going on here ?

Provide a example and when possible try to change the dutch commands to english 
to test if the error remains.

  1   % interface=nl
  2 \startonderdeel R79_OVA \omgeving homolo 
  3 \starttekst 
  4 \def\vehiculo{OVA} \def\directivanr{R79} \def\gendatum{8--2--2013}
  5 \stelachtergrondenin[status=stop]
  6 \def\textdir{Textos/OVA/}   

Please change the name of the \textdir command because there is already a 
primitive with this name.

When you need your own macros to store text use Camel Case or better use 
\setvariables and \getvariable to set and access the strings.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Charis SIL / SmallCaps

2013-01-21 Thread Zenlima

Hi,

thanks! Now it works with the \setff{..} command.

 or otherwise also set up kerns

Sorry, I dont understand what you mean with this. Can you explain it?

 btw, there is a smallcaps feature predefined.

I thought the \sc is the predefined command for the smallcaps font
feature. Am I wrong?

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Charis SIL / SmallCaps

2013-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 21.01.2013 um 12:27 schrieb Zenlima p...@zenlima.eu:

 Hi,
 
 thanks! Now it works with the \setff{..} command.
 
 or otherwise also set up kerns
 
 Sorry, I dont understand what you mean with this. Can you explain it?

When you use

  \definefontfeature[smallcapitals][..,..=..,..]

you have to add “kern=yes” to the list because no kerning happens otherwise.

 btw, there is a smallcaps feature predefined.
 
 I thought the \sc is the predefined command for the smallcaps font
 feature. Am I wrong?

No, like the \it. \bf etc commands \sc is a font switch which uses for Latin 
Modern
a separate font file which contains instead of lowercase letter small capitals, 
for other
fonts the \sc command load the upright font where the “smallcaps” feature set is
used instead of the “default” set.

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Charis SIL / SmallCaps

2013-01-17 Thread Marco Patzer

On 2013–01–17 Zenlima wrote:

 But for whatever reason I cannot get context to show the smallcaps. I
 tried an example out of this mailing list: 
 
 \definefontfeature[smallcapitals] [smcp=yes]

\definefontfeature[smallcapitals] [smcp=yes, script=latn]


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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Charis SIL / SmallCaps

2013-01-17 Thread Hans Hagen


On 1/17/2013 11:53 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:

On 2013–01–17 Zenlima wrote:


But for whatever reason I cannot get context to show the smallcaps. I
tried an example out of this mailing list:

\definefontfeature[smallcapitals] [smcp=yes]


\definefontfeature[smallcapitals] [smcp=yes, script=latn]


\definefontfeature[smallcapitals] [default] [smcp=yes, script=latn]

or otherwise also set up kerns

btw, there is a smallcaps feature predefined.

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV math: arrow symbols undefined

2012-12-09 Thread Hans Hagen


On 12/8/2012 8:56 PM, Kip Warner wrote:

On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 11:03 +0100, Andreas Mang wrote:

Dear all,

I've noticed that \leadsto, \rightsquigarrow and \leftrightsquigarrow are 
not defined in MKIV (ConTeXt  ver: 2012.12.06 18:39 MKIV). However, they appear in MKII (ConTeXt ver: 
2012.12.06 18:39 MKII).

I've tested the entire set at http://www.access2science.com/latex/Arrows.html

Cheers,
Andreas


%%% MINIMAL EXAMPLE %%%
\starttext

leadsto: $\leadsto$

squidarrow: $\leftrightsquigarrow$

squidarrow: $\rightsquigarrow$

\stoptext
%%% MINIMAL EXAMPLE %%%


I concur.


reported to the lm/gyre team

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