Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I would check to see if the pauses are particular to the same books. If so, it's not likely to be the machine. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady tfgra...@verizon.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Who told you that? I think you should read the manual. On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Terrilynne wrote: I have a Victor, and I don't like it much. The only thing that keeps me using it is that I can download my own books, when I want them, and no library is telling me that I have too many or I need to send them back. I find many things about the Victor irritating. For example, I hate how slowly the machine goes through a list of NLS books. You can't just hit the button five times and be five books further up or down the list, you have to listen to it read every single number, with puases between. And, sometimes, it stops after a number and pauses for a few seconds before reading either the book title or moving onto the next number. I am supposing that they used less than the best options for software. TerriLynne To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Horses for courses then as I said before. It depends on what you want to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: 30 December 2009 12:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
No reason to keep repeating yourself, that's the difference, which was the question asked. Now, there are reasons why I have said this, and although you may not like what's being said, really the PTP belongs in the discussion of digital recorders, because as a book player it is infierior to the Stream or Booksense. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:26 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses then as I said before. It depends on what you want to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: 30 December 2009 12:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
interesting bb - Original Message - From: Tim Grady tfgra...@verizon.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:18 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
i'm sorry tim im still trying to figure this out. What are some things that make the ptp inferior? i like to do my research and I have a little money to spend so I'm really trying to get to the bottom of it all. If thats possible. bb - Original Message - From: Tim Grady tfgra...@verizon.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:44 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents No reason to keep repeating yourself, that's the difference, which was the question asked. Now, there are reasons why I have said this, and although you may not like what's being said, really the PTP belongs in the discussion of digital recorders, because as a book player it is infierior to the Stream or Booksense. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:26 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses then as I said before. It depends on what you want to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: 30 December 2009 12:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
It doesn't support Audible files, a commercial audio service, has an extremely short battery life, has it seems more things to remember to get it to do what the Stream or Booksense can do in a quite easy to remember manner. I'm sure that if I had a PTP to fool around with and was not just reading the manual I could point out a few more things. One of the things I don't understand about the PTP is the TTS engine. I understand why the Stream used the TTs that it did and that was basically because the designers were limited to the technology at the time, but I don't think the designers of the PTP can use the same excuse. If I were buying a digital recorder, though, I would consider it, although even then I think the battery life is to short and just for a digital recorder it's too pricy. On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Brett Boyer wrote: i'm sorry tim im still trying to figure this out. What are some things that make the ptp inferior? i like to do my research and I have a little money to spend so I'm really trying to get to the bottom of it all. If thats possible. bb - Original Message - From: Tim Grady tfgra...@verizon.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:44 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents No reason to keep repeating yourself, that's the difference, which was the question asked. Now, there are reasons why I have said this, and although you may not like what's being said, really the PTP belongs in the discussion of digital recorders, because as a book player it is inferior to the Stream or Booksense. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:26 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses then as I said before. It depends on what you want to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: 30 December 2009 12:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Who told you that? I think you should read the manual. On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Terrilynne wrote: I have a Victor, and I don't like it much. The only thing that keeps me using it is that I can download my own books, when I want them, and no library is telling me that I have too many or I need to send them back. I find many things about the Victor irritating. For example, I hate how slowly the machine goes through a list of NLS books. You can't just hit the button five times and be five books further up or down the list, you have to listen to it read every single number, with puases between. And, sometimes, it stops after a number and pauses for a few seconds before reading either the book title or moving onto the next number. I am supposing that they used less than the best options for software. TerriLynne To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Yeah, the booksense does have it's shortcomings, like short battery life and an inadequate search feature. On the other hand it is a newer technology with a better USB interface and more ROM to expand the programing. Personally I can't see why anyone would switch to another player if you already owned the Stream unless you needed the radio, bluetooth or the voices of the booksense. Despite the Stream being an older technology it does have a few advantages that the Booksense doesn't have like a company behind it that has been designing DAISY playback for years, 3 to 4 extra hours of playback time which should be real important, and this might just be my opinion, a company with a more honest marketing strategy at least as far as its player is concerned. On Dec 26, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Kevin Cussick wrote: Hello, For me the stream is the unit I will continue to use because of the American voices you can at least use a UK voice with the stream. Not so with the booksence as far as I'm aware. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
It does have Bluetooth, a FM radio, 4 GHZ internal memory and USB 2.0, at least the pricier model does, the standard model only boasts USB 2.0. The booksense also because it is a newer player and can take advantage of newer designs in memory that weren't around when the Stream was designed has a clock, supports recording in .mp3 and .wav formats, can play .AAC and enhanced audible files and is promising to be able to play .wma protected files. This might be true, although it can't do it yet and every other player out there including the Victor Reader Stream has promised this at one time or other. On Dec 26, 2009, at 5:25 AM, Adrien wrote: Hi It all depends on what those new features are and how important they are, perhaps someone on here can tell us what those new features may be? The thing which puts me off the booksense is the battery time, it only lasts 12 hours and doesn't stop using battery time even when it is switched off, the stream shuts off completely. Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22...@googlemail.com Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
This is interesting, so last night I tried, just for fun flipping from book to book to book. It flipped through them as fast as I could punch the button. I didn't have to wait for the whole title to be spoken. I'm not sure what your complaint is here. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Who told you that? I think you should read the manual. On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Terrilynne wrote: I have a Victor, and I don't like it much. The only thing that keeps me using it is that I can download my own books, when I want them, and no library is telling me that I have too many or I need to send them back. I find many things about the Victor irritating. For example, I hate how slowly the machine goes through a list of NLS books. You can't just hit the button five times and be five books further up or down the list, you have to listen to it read every single number, with puases between. And, sometimes, it stops after a number and pauses for a few seconds before reading either the book title or moving onto the next number. I am supposing that they used less than the best options for software. TerriLynne To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4722 (20091228) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4722 (20091228) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
To all concerned, I have sad news. Richard passed on December 12, 2009 of a heart attack. Some may know already, however, I'm sending this information to all of Richards email contacts. It was so sudden with no warning. I know Richard receives many emails each day and I want to inform all those who contacted him. Sincerely, Anthony and Teresa Costa - Original Message - From: Tim Grady tfgra...@verizon.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:41 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It does have Bluetooth, a FM radio, 4 GHZ internal memory and USB 2.0, at least the pricier model does, the standard model only boasts USB 2.0. The booksense also because it is a newer player and can take advantage of newer designs in memory that weren't around when the Stream was designed has a clock, supports recording in .mp3 and .wav formats, can play .AAC and enhanced audible files and is promising to be able to play .wma protected files. This might be true, although it can't do it yet and every other player out there including the Victor Reader Stream has promised this at one time or other. On Dec 26, 2009, at 5:25 AM, Adrien wrote: Hi It all depends on what those new features are and how important they are, perhaps someone on here can tell us what those new features may be? The thing which puts me off the booksense is the battery time, it only lasts 12 hours and doesn't stop using battery time even when it is switched off, the stream shuts off completely. Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22...@googlemail.com Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4722 (20091228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4722 (20091228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I don't have that problem. I just hit a key and the Stream goes to the next or previous book. earlier, Terrilynne, wrote: I have a Victor, and I don't like it much. The only thing that keeps me using it is that I can download my own books, when I want them, and no library is telling me that I have too many or I need to send them back. I find many things about the Victor irritating. For example, I hate how slowly the machine goes through a list of NLS books. You can't just hit the button five times and be five books further up or down the list, you have to listen to it read every single number, with puases between. And, sometimes, it stops after a number and pauses for a few seconds before reading either the book title or moving onto the next number. I am supposing that they used less than the best options for software. TerriLynne To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 46°F Wind:Calm Okay, who stopped the payment on my reality check? Created by Weather Signature v1.31 http://www.weathersig.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Hi It all depends on what those new features are and how important they are, perhaps someone on here can tell us what those new features may be? The thing which puts me off the booksense is the battery time, it only lasts 12 hours and doesn't stop using battery time even when it is switched off, the stream shuts off completely. Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22...@googlemail.com Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Hello, For me the stream is the unit I will continue to use because of the American voices you can at least use a UK voice with the stream. Not so with the booksence as far as I'm aware. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I have a Victor, and I don't like it much. The only thing that keeps me using it is that I can download my own books, when I want them, and no library is telling me that I have too many or I need to send them back. I find many things about the Victor irritating. For example, I hate how slowly the machine goes through a list of NLS books. You can't just hit the button five times and be five books further up or down the list, you have to listen to it read every single number, with puases between. And, sometimes, it stops after a number and pauses for a few seconds before reading either the book title or moving onto the next number. I am supposing that they used less than the best options for software. TerriLynne To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
exactly and that iswhat is stopping me from getting that machine if it had recordinglevels i would buy it - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:31 PM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Including me. - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Well, since the advent of the Booksense, I believe several people bought those when they first came out, and I think when they have RFBD support for real after the first of the year, this will help their sales. I think what's going to hurt Humanware will be when they start charging for some of the newer features of the Stream. This will turn people off. M -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:49 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players
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I think most probably it will now depend on humanware if they develop the product further. I for one like the competition between these various devices. In the end it will mean that the different companies will continue to upgrade their products. The xtreme still seems to have some features for e.g. searching when reading files like txt and html that the other devices do not have? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 06:49 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream
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Right on! couldn't agree more On 24/12/2009, at 11:56 PM, André van Deventer wrote: Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12
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Well they obviously are if they all don't own one smile. On 25/12/2009, at 3:43 AM, Michael D. Barber wrote: Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording
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I'm only one person, if the price is reasonable - say $50.00 up to $100 - and the feature set is rich then I'll certainly consider what Humanware has to offer, I don't think the Victor Reader Stream is an expensive machine given what it does and its design but what does annoy me somewhat is that its a LINUX machine and much of the Stream has been sourced from Open Source projects, in effect this means that not much software development was required. Now I'll make myself clearer, I'm sure Humanware aren't the first to do this sort of thing and they won't be the last but they're not - in my view - giving enough credit to those who actually did the work smile. On 25/12/2009, at 3:54 AM, Michael D. Barber wrote: Well, since the advent of the Booksense, I believe several people bought those when they first came out, and I think when they have RFBD support for real after the first of the year, this will help their sales. I think what's going to hurt Humanware will be when they start charging for some of the newer features of the Stream. This will turn people off. M -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:49 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels
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The vrstreamusers.org list still has 605 members. I don't think the Stream is a dead product just yet. (smile) - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Well they obviously are if they all don't own one smile. On 25/12/2009, at 3:43 AM, Michael D. Barber wrote: Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
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Oh I wouldn't say that at all. The stream is still a great player. The BookSense is just meeting my current reading and recording needs a bit better right now. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon
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That's the truth. I'll pay for the upgrade, but grudgingly, as they originally promised that all upgrades would be free. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Well, since the advent of the Booksense, I believe several people bought those when they first came out, and I think when they have RFBD support for real after the first of the year, this will help their sales. I think what's going to hurt Humanware will be when they start charging for some of the newer features of the Stream. This will turn people off. M -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:49 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them
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Until Book Sense has RFBD support and has proved itself with playing RFBD content it isn't going to be able to replace the Victor Reader Stream. And, I don't know about anybody else, but I am again having problems pearing a bluetooth headset with the Book Sense after installing the new Book Sense 2.0 software upgrade. Book Sense is nice, but they still have bugs, and support for RFBD to solve along with other issues with recording using the internal mikes. These issues can, and probably will be resolved, but they aren't there yet... - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The vrstreamusers.org list still has 605 members. I don't think the Stream is a dead product just yet. (smile) - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Well they obviously are if they all don't own one smile. On 25/12/2009, at 3:43 AM, Michael D. Barber wrote: Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I didn't say it was dead it just seems like people aren't as passionate about the stream like they used to be. Some people anyway. bb - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The vrstreamusers.org list still has 605 members. I don't think the Stream is a dead product just yet. (smile) - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Well they obviously are if they all don't own one smile. On 25/12/2009, at 3:43 AM, Michael D. Barber wrote: Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I'm only one person, if the price is reasonable - say $50.00 up to $100 - and the feature set is rich then I'll certainly consider what Humanware has to offer, I don't think the Victor Reader Stream is an expensive machine given what it does and its design but what does annoy me somewhat is that its a LINUX machine and much of the Stream has been sourced from Open Source projects, in effect this means that not much software development was required. Now I'll make myself clearer, I'm sure Humanware aren't the first to do this sort of thing and they won't be the last but they're not - in my view - giving enough credit to those who actually did the work smile. On 25/12/2009, at 3:54 AM, Michael D. Barber wrote: Well, since the advent of the Booksense, I believe several people bought those when they first came out, and I think when they have RFBD support for real after the first of the year, this will help their sales. I think what's going to hurt Humanware will be when they start charging for some of the newer features of the Stream. This will turn people off. M pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Okay, I know this isn't the Stream list, but I'm not joining it just to ask this one question. I had a customer today who said while she was playing her Stream the other night, it suddenly emitted a high pitched noise. This doesn't happen all the time. She was using her headphones when this happened. Anybody have any ideas? Michael -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents That's the truth. I'll pay for the upgrade, but grudgingly, as they originally promised that all upgrades would be free. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Well, since the advent of the Booksense, I believe several people bought those when they first came out, and I think when they have RFBD support for real after the first of the year, this will help their sales. I think what's going to hurt Humanware will be when they start charging for some of the newer features of the Stream. This will turn people off. M -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:49 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I'm wondering if she is referring to the rather weird noise that emits from it when the battery is getting low? Kind of a weird indescribable noise. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:42 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Okay, I know this isn't the Stream list, but I'm not joining it just to ask this one question. I had a customer today who said while she was playing her Stream the other night, it suddenly emitted a high pitched noise. This doesn't happen all the time. She was using her headphones when this happened. Anybody have any ideas? Michael -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents That's the truth. I'll pay for the upgrade, but grudgingly, as they originally promised that all upgrades would be free. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Well, since the advent of the Booksense, I believe several people bought those when they first came out, and I think when they have RFBD support for real after the first of the year, this will help their sales. I think what's going to hurt Humanware will be when they start charging for some of the newer features of the Stream. This will turn people off. M -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:49 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I have both and the stream is a little more stable. It seems to hold bookmarks without a fault, but not so with the Book Sense. I put my textbooks on Victor and pleasure reading on the Book Sense. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Oh I wouldn't say that at all. The stream is still a great player. The BookSense is just meeting my current reading and recording needs a bit better right now. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It sure seems like it. The few lists I have been on it seems like the victor stream is losing its footing. thanks bb - Original Message - From: Michael D. Barber m.bar...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Actually, I don't think most people are getting away from the Stream. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents It seems like most people are getting away from the stream. I really think I will have to go with the plextor. I've never been one to go with the mainstream I like the road less traveled or not traveled at all. I like hearing everyone's imput. Because I am looking for a good recorder as well as a book reader. bb IMO bb - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi Folks: As far as an all around book reader is concerned, I believe that the Stream is a much more stable device and has features that the other pocket players do not have, such as AGC. As a podcast player, it is unsurpassed. The problem with the stream is, however, that the present hardware configuration has been pretty well maxed out. I believe, for example, that the present hardware will not be able to play WMA DRM. Just some thoughts. Religion! The enemy of Christianity. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:57 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses. It depends what you want to do. If recording is mainly what you want to do, then I personally think the pocket is your best bet. I personally like the ability to decide whether you want to set your recording volume manually, which can be an asset if you want a really good recording quality, or use automatic recording levels. Also the pocket has certain automatic recording settings for environments like conferences, etc. And it can play material in different formats as well and .txt and html files at this stage. But it is quite possible that the sense can play back more files than the pocket. Remember all of these devices are updated by firmware updates which can be downloaded from the manufacturers' websites so what we may discuss as pros and cons now may not necessarily be true in say 3 months time! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: 24 December 2009 02:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFBD support where RFBD will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFBD add
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
For those of you who have both machines, How good is the speed compression on each machine? Also don't both machines have the ability to bookmark? Thanks. Denny - Original Message - From: Kim Thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 21:51 Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have both and the stream is a little more stable. It seems to hold bookmarks without a fault, but not so with the Book Sense. I put my textbooks on Victor and pleasure reading on the Book Sense. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
book sense is far better on compression and when you need to go back to normal you only need a single click of a button. - Original Message - From: Denny Daughters de...@dennydaughters.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Personally, I like both machines but I have the Stream for the simple reason that it was the only game in town when I bought it. Not worth the effort of getting another machine though. But in your case I'd look seriously at the Booksense. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Denny Daughters Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:29 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4707 (20091221) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4707 (20091221) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4707 (20091221) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
