Re: PESO: R I P Ashley

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Ann!
So very sorry to hear about Ashley!  I send hugs and condolences.
xxx Christine Aguila

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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 1:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all of you for your condolence responses to Ashley's photo and the 
> news of her passing..
> I'm glad a number of you actually did get to meet her - some even on more 
> than one occasion.
> 
> And I see I did not show the original James Wright line so I quote it here.. 
> (just to show I kept to the meter :-))
> 
> "She’s gone. She was my love, my moon or more.
> She chased the chickens out and swept the floor"
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 4/23/2021 2:14 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> July 16th 2005 - April 18th, 2021  Best cat ever.. so glad to have had her 
>> for almost 16 years.
>> 
>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-WsJL79X/A
>>  
>> 
>> And with apologies to the late poet and my friend James Wright for my 
>> altering the first two lines of COMPLAINT
>> 
>> "She's gone. She was my cat, my moon or more.
>>  She chased the roaches out and scratched the door."
>> 
>> Actually, Jim would probably not have minded.. , he had an impish wit.
>> 
>> ann
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Re: It was twenty years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Doug and all dear PDML friends!

I really enjoyed reading this history of PDML!  Thanks, Doug, for taking over 
PDML.  It’s greatly appreciated.  Your generosity led to a lot of great 
friendships, photography camaraderie, travel,  improvement of skills, a PDML 
exhibition, sharing of photo knowledge, teasing, storytelling, humor, and 
everything else life dishes out!  What a fun group!  I know I’ve been a bit MIA 
lately, but PDML is still a favorite part of my life. 

I hope to be more active in 2021!
Wishing the very best to all on the list!
Happy New Year!’
Stay safe and well!
Big cheers, Christine Aguila






> On Jan 1, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> sort of.
> 
> During the Christmas season of 2000, while I worked on a museum project for a 
> local university, I got a call from Don Nelson, a friend and Pentax sales guy 
> some of you will remember from GFM. He told me that Pentax USA, which carried 
> the PAML and PDML on its website, was looking to get out of the email list 
> game because of potential liability issues arising from unsanctioned and 
> borderline dangerously irresponsible technical and repair advice getting 
> posted to the PDML.
> 
> Don then asked if I knew anyone who could take it over. I thought about a few 
> members I knew at the time, even reached out to one or two, who pretty much 
> laughed, and I reported back to Don that there didn't seem to be much 
> interest. He said ok.
> 
> A couple days later, a nice woman from the marketing department at Pentax 
> called to tell me she had heard from Don that I would like to be considered 
> for the role of List Guy. After a long pause, followed by some muttering and 
> me repeating "wait, what?" a few times, the nice woman in marketing assured 
> me that Don said I was very interested.
> 
> That was Don, as those of you who knew him would agree.
> 
> I told the nice woman that I was not a list guy by any stretch of the 
> imagination. I wasn't a software guy, didn't know anything about how to run 
> an email list, was in all things comprehensively incompetent and liked it 
> that way, and so on.
> 
> The nice woman in marketing was unimpressed, so it was decided. I 
> begrudgingly agreed that I would download some list software packages and see 
> if I could make any sense of them. After that, I said, I'd get back to her in 
> a week or so with my decision. The nice woman in marketing rang off.
> 
> That afternoon I found and downloaded some software, installed it, and poked 
> around for a few minutes until I had to do something with my actual job. The 
> only thing I had really discerned from my brief time with the software was 
> that I was out of my depth and needed some serious hours with it before I 
> could even begin to think about whether or not I would take over the PDML.
> 
> Some time that night the PDML broke.
> 
> The next day, the nice woman in marketing called to tell me that the guy who 
> worked at the advertising agency that handled the Pentax USA website and was 
> the only one there who knew the list software and how it interfaced with the 
> website was off on Christmas vacation and the server was down and hey, she 
> would email me a list of everyone who was subscribed to the PDML. Good luck 
> and godspeed, it was now my baby.
> 
> I still can't tell you how I got it going, but here we are, and I'm grateful 
> for it.
> 
> Happy New Year, kids.
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Re: PESO: Radiant

[Christine Aguila]

What Dan said!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Nov 2, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I really like the geometry and the textures of this image!
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 10:16 AM Toine  wrote:
> 
>> Actually a dining table. After I opened it in lightroom I noticed
>> small critters feasting on the white stuff (probably fungi). Had I
>> noticed it in the field I would have gone closer.
>> 
>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-934-20201102-img3371
>> 
>> Toine
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Re: PESO: fly agaric

[Christine Aguila]

Toine, that’s wonderful!  It just pops!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Oct 31, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> According to wikipedia it's called fly agaric, I would have guessed
> fly mushroom.
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-933-20201031-img3358
> 
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Re: broken or just lsit fatigue?

[Christine Aguila]

I’m sort of here, Ann! :-). At the desk doing work for work, yet dreaming of 
better days.  We had a light dusting of snow this morning, and the flat is a 
bit nippy.  Paul, Darrel has his Bear’s hat on and is getting ready for the 
game :-).  They sure are winning ugly this season.  Can’t believe their record. 
 :-)

Well, back to work!  Cheers, Christine 


> On Oct 26, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I’m here. Been working since early morning. Going to nap now so I can stay up 
> to watch Da Bears on Monday Night Football.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 1:40 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> hurrah a couple of you ARE there
>> 
>> In my physical state I dare not even glance disapprovingly at a maskless 
>> young person for fear of being assaulted.
>> but here in NYC and especially  my neighborhood there is good compliance for 
>> the most part.
>> 
>> I am resolved not to go out more than once or twice a week.. unless ebay 
>> wakes up
>> 
>> watching TV, doing jigsaws, got a photo into the PUG and started searching 
>> for more calendar themes
>> 
>> I have a neighbor who recovered from the virus months ago and I now feel 
>> more or less safe stopping by her
>> apartment on my way back up the stairs to mine for a 20 or 30 minute visit - 
>> we both wear masks ..  and the
>> best chairs in the living room are six feet apart.
>> 
>> But it was striking not to see anyone post anything over a whole two days so 
>> I did wonder if my server decided
>> PDML was a cult group.
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 10/26/2020 1:17 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Here. I'm not getting out as much as I'd like. I put new tires on the truck
>>> a couple of weeks ago, and had it's winter servicing done last week.
>>> Had to cancel supper with the kids, we had a covid contact at work. So far,
>>> so good at my end, but we are seeing a real uptick in cases, and a bigger
>>> uptick in fucktards who think the whole thing is some sort of joke.
>>> Last week a woman told me she wasn't going to let my fear regulate her
>>> life. I told her I was good with that as long as she was OK with my not
>>> letting her stupidity regulate my life  and that I was afraid I couldn't
>>> continue our conversation.
>>> She seemed so normal until she opened her mouth and proved she was a
>>> dumbass.
>>> So it goes.
>>> I bet her toilet is still broken.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon., Oct. 26, 2020, 11:04 a.m. ann sanfedele,  
 wrote:
 
 I haven't seen a new email since 10/24
 anyone there?
 
 ann is lonesome
 
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Re: PESO - Walk in The Woodlands

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Rick!  That’s beautiful!  One of your best!  Just lovely! 
Cheers, Christine 

> 
> On Oct 9, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> After a very frustrating work day yesterday, I took my camera for an hour’s 
> walk in The Woodlands (as Woodland Cemetery is now known). The light was 
> marvelous.
> 
> For this shot I followed Sam Abell’s advice: “Find an interesting background, 
> and wait for something to happen.”
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/PESOs-2017/Neighborhood-2020/Fall-2020-Neighborhood/i-98b6JXb/A
> 
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
> 
> Plaudits, criticism, and brickbats all welcomed.
> 
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Re: October PUG is up

[Christine Aguila]

Fantastic gallery!  Henk’s Natural Nanomaterial is amazing!  I really liked 
Ann’s Red and White as well!  I love textile art exhibitions!  The detail in 
all the photos is wonderful—some subtle, some bold, but all enjoyable!
Cheers, Christine

> On Oct 7, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Lots to like this month - hard to pick favourites - perhaps Reinhard's 'Silk'
> and Joe's 'Roofs of Urbino' by a small amount.
> 
> View the October gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'Straight Lines'.
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: Pentax KP

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, everyone!  I’m so out of touch with Pentax gear; it’s embarrassing.  I 
was also stunned to hear about Canon and Nikon’s shift to mirrorless cameras.  
I hope to give all my gear a workout for the next couple of weeks.  I have a 
few photo-homework-assignments in mind with the hope of getting my photog-eye 
back into shape.

Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Pete McIntosh  wrote:
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> Sent: 28/09/20 9:56:06
> Subject: Pentax KP
> 
>> Hi all!
>> Anyone shooting with the Pentax KP?
>> If so, thoughts?
>> Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
> I've got one. I second everything Toine said, including getting extra 
> batteries.
> 
> I use mine with the DA 15mm, 21mm and 40mm lenses and love it. It's my 
> lockdown walkabout camera.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
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Pentax KP

[Christine Aguila]

Hi all!
Anyone shooting with the Pentax KP?
If so, thoughts?
Cheers, Christine

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Re: GESO: Shaheen falcon

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  What a series!  Great work Subash!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:00 AM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> the shaheen falcon (also called the black shaheen and the indian
> peregrine falcon) is a non-migratory subspecies of the peregrine falcon.
> we had an encounter near chennai with it today and it even put up a
> performance for us:
> 
> https://something-feathered.in/2020/09/24/shaheen-falcon/
> 
> 
> shot with the k3ii and the sigma 150-500 OS HSM.
> 
> comments appreciated...
> 
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Re: Lucky shot

[Christine Aguila]

That’s fantastic, Larry!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 23, 2020, at 6:41 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> And I see what you did there
> 
> On September 23, 2020 10:53:42 AM PDT, Nolan Hinshaw  
> wrote:
>> On Sep 23, 2020, at 00:31, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was trying to do some night time photos of the fire damage and this
>> happened
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50373723243/in/album-72157716081661841/
>> 
>> That is a stellar image!
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Re: PESO - Leap, fauxlarized

[Christine Aguila]

That’s really nice, Bruce!  I like the solarization.  The orientation you’ve 
presented is intriguing.  I wonder what the photo would be like if you cloned 
the stool out—could be fun—a kind of flying through the air shot!
Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 19, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> I was recently reading up on Erwin Blumenfeld and his Man Ray
> influenced work inspired me to try playing around with solarization. I
> chose an unedited shot from 2018 work with dancer Joy Kidston. I used
> Photoshop Curves to simulate the darkroom effect, thus
> "fauxlarization".
> 
> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I000AXUuBOGc
> 
> 645Z, 90mm/2.8 at f:11, 1/125th sec, ISO 200
> Lr Classic & Ps CC
> 
> Enjoy!
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Re: Mother goose in the ashes, another afterburn

[Christine Aguila]

I agree with Bob!  Solid photography of a tragic event.  Good photographic 
work, Larry.  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> That Mother Goose shot is excellent.
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2020, at 18:00, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> I went for a bike ride yesterday, I took the K-1, ended up going through 
>> some other burned out areas on hwy 236 aka Big Basin Way.
>> 
>> I stopped to take a photos of something else in the “fallen leaf” 
>> neighborhood and this caught my eye
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50362939082/in/album-72157716043467568/
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Re: My new Pentax

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Congrats on your purchase, Juan!  The MX was my first real camera, but had to 
sell it during a tough spot when in college, but after joining PDML, I bought 
Wendy’s MX!
Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 13, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> My first real camera was an ME super with the M50/1.7. It was the silver
> model, just like probably 99%+ of them, at least thatś what the proportion
> of silver vs black ones seems to be.
> 
> I don't have that camera anymore, and while I still have my two black MXs,
> I've always missed it a little.
> 
> Last week, browsing ebay, I saw a black ME super. Described as "untested",
> and with the brassing in the bottom plate described as "rust."  $30 buy it
> now, but accepting offers. I offered $25 and got it. Still a gamble, I
> thought most probably I was buying a $25 paperweight.
> 
> Well, it arrived yesterday, and after exercising the shutter a little bit
> and putting some new batteries in, it all works! It was awesome to see
> those little LEDs come to life as soon as the batteries went in.
> 
> So while I've moved to a Fuji X-T30 for my main photography (this is the
> closest you can get in digital to the feel of an MX, btw!), today I am
> going out with the ME-Super and a roll of Fujicolor 200. Plus the MX-1 just
> to shoot some DNGs as well and keep it Pentax.
> 
> Just look at this beauty:
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/dgkvs93HrFCpjkNP7
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Re: PESO: Grosbeak (and deer)

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Wow!  The Breasted Grosbeak is fantastic!  Enjoyed the deer as well.  There’s 
nothing like spotting a deer—always fun—except when you’re driving and they 
jump in front of your car :-)!
Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Another excursion outside to stand on the riverbank for shots of the deer 
> across the river.
> No chipmunk this time, but a nice female Rose Breasted Grosbeak on one of the 
> feeders…
> 
>   https://photos.stanhalpin.com/img/s/v-10/p3982360696-6.jpg
> 
> This time the deer were not scared away by my presence, so here is a much 
> cropped shot of the two adults and two fawn…
> 
>   https://photos.stanhalpin.com/img/s/v-10/p3982357266-6.jpg
> 
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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[Christine Aguila]

I HATE 2020!  christine

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> There is no "safety" in 2020, it seems. AQI was up into the 130+ "Unhealthy" 
> range for the past three days along with ambient temperatures floating up 
> into the 100-115 range even here in the SF Bay Area. The particulates in the 
> air are particularly bad. 
> 
> I stay indoors the past two days, with the AC running on low and air exchange 
> to help filter the air. The sun has been a dull orange this morning. 
> Yesterday evening, I needed to get some exercise so went for a short walk at 
> sunset time (6-7 pm) as air temps fell into the low 80°F/high 70°Fs range. I 
> carried the camera...
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/NJ2Rua (all with Leica CL + Voigtländer 
> 10mm)
> 
> I won't say "Enjoy!" There's little to be enjoyed about having air quality so 
> bad that even people with healthy lungs are at risk. On top of COVID-19, BLM, 
> insane/absurd BS on the national and international political front, 
> earthquakes, hurricanes of unprecedented strength ... 2020 has it in for us. 
> 
> Hunker down and endure as best you can seems the operative advice.
> 
> G
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Re: PESO: Dragonfly

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  What great detail!  And so sharp!  Nice work, Toine!  Cheers, Christine 


> On Sep 10, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Toine  wrote:
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> No idea which model
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/favorites/#=1=005-869-imgp2547
> 
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Re: PESO - Olivia

[Christine Aguila]

That is a beautiful portrait, Bruce!  You and her must be very pleased with 
your work here!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Broke my COVID-19 exile two weeks ago today for my first studio shoot
> since February, with this result ... (100% SFW) ...
> 
> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IeIqHiAEP9xQ
> 
> Promptly gone back into the COVID-cave for the (un)foreseeable future.
> Too much anxiety all around, and besides: wearing a mask while
> shooting causes the viewfinder to fog up annoyingly often. Also fogs
> my reading glasses while trying to review shots on the tethering
> notebook. And I had to keep considering if I was too close to the
> model even though I chose a short tele for distancing.
> 
> Working with the vintage 6x7 105mm 2.4 was a dream. Lovely lens.
> 
> 645Z, SMC Takumar 67 105mm f:2.4 at f:2.4, 1/200th sec, ISO 1600; handheld.
> 
> Lights were the strobe's modeling lamps, diffusers and a big silver
> reflector. Also ambient room light was lighting the background.
> 
> Enjoy!
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Re: PESO Apocalyptic Playground

[Christine Aguila]

Solid documentation of a really tragic situation.  Nice camera work, Larry.  
Gosh, I hate the current state of the world.  Everyone stay safe.  Christine



> On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:34 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Facebook has been deluged with photos of the orange skies, I was going to let 
> it pass, but on my way to pick up some dinner, i realized that I had 
> something interesting to put in front of the skies, so I stopped at the 
> covered bridge across the street from our local sushi restaurant.
> 
> Apocalyptic Playground:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50325077598/in/album-72157715910553408/
> 
> From inside the bridge:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50325083338/in/album-72157715910553408/
> 
> And if anyone isn’t bored out of their gourd of west coast orange sky photos:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157715910553408
> 
> It seems that most of this smoke is from the forest fires up in Oregon.  
> Fortunately it is high enough that it isn’t causing too much difficulty withe 
> breathing today.  
> 
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Re: September PUG is up

[Christine Aguila]

LOL! Well, next time I’ll double check for the hump!  Course that goat to the 
left, should have been a clue!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 7, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Christine, I just wanted to mention that it was a goat, unlike
> the camel in this photo (from a different place, but taken with the same
> fish-eye lens):
> http://42graphy.org/misc/2014-05-18-safari/_IR07708.html
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Re: PESO: Chipmunk

[Christine Aguila]

Oh my gosh, is that super cute!  Great pose, bokeh, and sharpness!  Super fun, 
Stan!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 7, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a better link - sorry!
> 
> https://photos.stanhalpin.com/img/s/v-10/p3976431424-6.jpg
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://photos.stanhalpin.com/img/s/v-10/p3976431424.jpg 
>> 
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Re: PESO: Autumn Crocus

[Christine Aguila]

That’s pretty, Toine!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 1:27 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Or Colchicum autumnale and thus no crocus!
> 
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Re: Happy Birthday, Larry

[Christine Aguila]

Happy Birthday, Larry!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 3:40 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Happy birthday Larry. May your fifties bring you much joy & happy shooting.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 06-Sep-20 07:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Only two more hours until my birthday, I wonder what other joy my fifties 
>> have in store for me.
>> 
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Re: PESO Not bad for just after a hit and run

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, poor Nick.  I’m glad he is ok.  2020 is cursed.  Christine

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 12:14 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> A little after 8 I heard a wreck in front of my house, went out front, saw a 
> woman driving past in a totally beat up small SUV, by the sound it was 
> dragging the right front wheel.  It turns out she had hit another car on the 
> bridge 100 yards up the road from my house.  Nobody was hurt, she did get 
> caught (she wasn’t going to get far).  This fellow, Nick, was the poor guy 
> she hit.  He wasn’t hurt, but his car was toast:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50310674191/in/album-72157715858230283/
> 
> Full set:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157715858230283
> 
> Only two more hours until my birthday, I wonder what other joy my fifties 
> have in store for me.
> 
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Re: PESO: 10 Years Ago

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Yikes!  Yep, wouldn’t want to be standing anywhere near there.  Cheers, 
Christine 

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 3:07 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> Here's a closer view of the building in the background, showing where that 
> part of the parapet ended up.  Note the hole in the awning.  I wouldn't have 
> wanted to be underneath that.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1090/#peso
> 
> I actually took those photos just after Xmas that year, following a 
> significant aftershock on Boxing Day.  I don't have much to show from the 
> initial September quake.  The central city was closed for a while so the 
> buildings could be checked to assess the damage and suitability for 
> reoccupation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 1:54 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> 
>> Lovely depiction of better times.
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
>> *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:39 AM David Mann  wrote:
>> 
>>> It's hard to believe it's been ten years since the early-morning
>>> earthquake that made us think how lucky we, as a city, were to escape
>>> serious harm.  We had no idea of what was to come a few months later.
>>> 
>>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1089/#peso
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>> 
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Re: story 3 of the new APS-C flagship (PESO)

[Christine Aguila]

That’s really nice, Henk!  Rich detail and sharp!  Cheers, Christine 


> On Sep 5, 2020, at 3:04 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> I had hoped in vain for a flagship with all features as K1(II) in APS-C 
> format, to get more reach and less weight.
> Here a focus stacked picture of mushrooms on my drive way taken yesterday, to 
> show the need for a tilted screen.
> On a wooden plate I've fitted an Arca-Swiss clamp to get stability.
> https://flic.kr/p/2jDjzTY
> (Yes, I will mow the lawn today!)
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2020-09-04 om 22:55 schreef P. J. Alling:
>> I wouldn't say it was a wrong decision.  If you want an APS-C Pentax with a 
>> tilt or flip screen there are two current models that suffice.   A KP or a 
>> K70.  Even thought I don't particularly want either they are great bargains 
>> at the moment, about half what I expect the new flagship to debut at.   Sure 
>> you give up some battery life and some buffer, but what I would want a 
>> flippy screen for buffer and battery life are probably the least of my 
>> worries.  I also expect that given current sensor tech you won't see a lot 
>> of difference between results from them vs the new flagship.
>> 
>> Not having an articulated screen does have the advantage of avoiding another 
>> point of failure.  I'll bet that Ricoh has a lot of internal data showing 
>> more screen repairs on those models than on any of the others.
>> 
>> On 9/4/2020 4:29 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>>> https://pentaxofficial.com/en/6628/
>>> 
>>> Well, as expected, the die is cast: the new flagship will have a fixed LCD 
>>> screen.
>>> Wrong decisions by R/P
>>> 
>>> Henk
>>> 
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Re: PESO: Globular

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, I’ve never seen anything like that.  Nice catch.  Good job at getting 
detail on the nearly all white object.  Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 10:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> It has been rather humid the past week.  Mushrooms are popping up all over
> lawns in the neighborhood.  This one was a bit more interesting than most:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/9/4/globular
> 
> K-5 IIs, smc DA 3t5 mm Macro F 2.8 Limited, on monopod
> Comments, suggestions and criticisms are invited and appreciated.
> 
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Re: September PUG is up

[Christine Aguila]

That’s a great group of shots!  I especially like Ralf’s and it was great to 
end with the fish eye of the camel poking his nose through the fence!  Nicely 
done everyone!  Cheers, Christine 


> On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:59 AM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> View the September gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'Texture'.
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: OT Geso, long one, Kawartha settlers museum Bobcaygeon Ontario

[Christine Aguila]

I still remember the wooden desks we had at out grammar school—ink well and 
all.  Must have been a fun outing.  Really enjoyed your group of photos, Dave!  
Cheers, Christine 

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2020-kawartha/album/index.html#_D722170.jpg 



> On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:55 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Camera club went on another pioneer museum exploring trip this past
> Tuesday. Great weather and wonderful museum. Well restored original
> buildings, homes, schools, stores, and shanties etc
> Artifacts well preserved and arranged. Well worth the $7.00
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2020-kawartha/album/index.html
> 
> D7200, SB800 off camera flash for some indoor shoyts, natural light for most
> 
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Re: PESO: 10 Years Ago

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What Dan said!  And hoping for better times to return again in all sorts of 
ways.  I hope to get to New Zeland some day.  I hear it’s the prettiest place 
on the planet.  Cheers, Christine 


> On Sep 4, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Lovely depiction of better times.
> 
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> *
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:39 AM David Mann  wrote:
> 
>> It's hard to believe it's been ten years since the early-morning
>> earthquake that made us think how lucky we, as a city, were to escape
>> serious harm.  We had no idea of what was to come a few months later.
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1089/#peso
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: PESO: Going To The Moon

[Christine Aguila]

That’s lovely!  The photographic capability of phones today is quite amazing.  
Cheers, Christine 


> On 9/2/2020 4:51 AM, David Mann wrote:
>> A phone pic of my daughter enjoying a swing today.
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1088/#peso
>> 
>> There was a fire engine coming along the street and I was wanting to get it 
>> in the photo (which I did on the next shot).  Maybe I'm being sentimental 
>> but I really liked this one.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: PESO - Which Way?

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That’s fun! Great catch!   I have very fond memories driving from Maine then 
through Vermont, New Hampshire, New York and home.  Very pretty country. 
Cheers, Christine 

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Navigation in the New Hampshire Lakes Region isn’t always easy:
> 
> https://photos.smugmug.com/New-Hampshire-Aug-2020/New-Hampshire-2020/i-MwM7nm9/0/a0a7532f/X3/Which%20Way-X3.jpg
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> (K-5, DA 17-70)
> 
> Comments appreciated!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: I am safe at friends

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Stay safe, Larry!  Damn 2020 sucks.  Christine

> On Aug 20, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> We bugged out last night. We are safe at the home of friends in Santa Cruz.
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Re: Beach geometry

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Bob!
Big congrats on the retirement plans, which sound wonderful!  The landscape of 
the area looks beautiful!
I saw a few of the pics on Instagram—very nice—well seen!
Very happy for you!
Big cheers, Christine
P.S. How do you like the adobe Lightroom cloud feature for sharing?  Recommend 
to others?  


> On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Just under two weeks ago I sold the house in Greenwich I’d lived in for 
> nearly 26 years, left London, where I’ve spent nearly forty years, and came 
> to live in a flat I’ve bought in Worthing, on the south coast of England. I’m 
> 300 yards from the beach, about the same distance I was from the Thames, and 
> 3 miles from the South Downs National Park.
> 
> Here are some snaps from a ride up into the Downs earlier this week, and from 
> a stroll along the prom earlier today.
> 
> https://adobe.ly/2BXDULF
> 
> I’ve also resigned from my job and will retire when I have worked out my 
> notice period. I plan to buy a property in France next year and split my time 
> between the two places.
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Re: Brit, In Memoriam

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Very sorry for your loss, PJ.  Christine

> 
> On Jul 5, 2020, at 7:26 PM, John  wrote:
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> I'm sorry for your loss.
> 
>> On 7/5/2020 16:15:44, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> My best friend and companion of 16 years died July 2, just shy of 16 years 
>> since I adopted him, just a month shy of being 16 years old.
>> He wasn't the best dog I've ever had, but he was close to the most loyal.
>> In his memory I'm re-posting one of my favorite photos of him from very 
>> early in our friendship.  I know I will miss him dearly.
>> http://webster26.epizy.com/InMemoriam/BritFeburary2004-July2,2020.html
>> Sleep well dear friend.
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Re: PESO - isolated

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That’s really nice, Bruce!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
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> Isolated - https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ISly2147JCpE
> 
> Taken in ambient window light last Dec, 2019 with model @phylactere_ontheroad
> 
> 645Z, 55mm/2.8 at f/4, 1/60th sec, iso 1600; handheld.
> Post in Lr and Ps.
> 
> Almost all of my recent gear purchases have been for fabrics of
> various sorts. I used one of my relatively newly acquired hand-painted
> canvas backdrops here.
> 
> Enjoy!
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Re: photographing textile arts

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Thanks, Bruce!  Good rule of thumb!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:31 AM Christine Aguila  
> wrote:
>> 
>> Bruce, with the suggestions you make, what lens and what distance would you 
>> be shooting at—camera to art work distance?  What would you start with?
> 
> Assuming APS-C, I'd reach for my go-to normal, the 35mm/2.8 Macro. My
> rule of thumb is to shoot no closer to the artwork as its longest
> dimension in order to minimize geometric distortion. But if you are
> shooting a large work in a small space you might need to go wider and
> use Ps to remove pincushion distortion.
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Re: photographing textile arts

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Super pretty designs, Ann! I’m gonna save your link!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:44 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I just found out they are making masks...  I wrote to ask if I could get a 
> mask instead of a sample (8" sq or fat quarter) to qualify me for selling a 
> particular design..
> 
> Here is a link to the designs of mine that are up there and listed to sell, 
> btw
> 
> https://www.spoonflower.com/profiles/ann_sanfedele?sort=bestselling
> 
> Haven't done any new stuff for them - and haven't sold anything either - 
> though I have a few fans
> 
> Good luck with your projecct!
> 
> xo
> a
> 
> 
>> On 6/23/2020 11:42 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:34 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> snip
>> I just ordered some fat quarters from Spoonflower.  Quality was decent, but 
>> I don’t think I ordered the higher grade fabric.  I didn’t design a 
>> pattern—just ordered someone else’s design.
>> snip..
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Re: photographing textile arts

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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 5:27 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
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> We’ll all be on tenterhooks to see it...

There’s a show on Prime Video called Stitch in Time, where the host commissions 
reproductions of historical clothing, which is not only reproduced in kind but 
in process of the time—hand sewn, hand tools of the day etc.  Very cool.  One 
of the episodes gave a very detailed definition of tenterhooks.  Very 
interesting.

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Re: photographing textile arts

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> On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:34 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I have a suggestion for Christine from my days of shooting product for 
> market research , which I'll go into below.
> 
> But to clarify, dan, what I do is design patterns in Photoshop Elements 
> usually starting with photos but not necessarily and put the designs on 
> cafepress.
> in my "shop" there and on thier market place.  cafepress has a lot of 
> products they can and do put my stuff on and the affiliates on the market 
> place select them to put on t shirts, mugs, wall hangings, linens, and 
> calendars of course.  I also put some designs up on site that mainly produces 
> yard goods but
> I found it a bit too complicated a procedure and one had to buy a sample 
> patch for $5.00 before they would add your design for them to sell publicly..
> it is called Spoonflower .. they have design competitions too, but all of the 
> fabrics are yardage of repetitive patterns , I was more interested in 
> stretching
> a specific image to cover the whole area of whatever I wanted to make - which 
> I was able to do in cafepress when I desgined a duvet cover and pillow for 
> myself in 2018..  I showed off that fabric when you came to visit last year, 
> Dan

I just ordered some fat quarters from Spoonflower.  Quality was decent, but I 
don’t think I ordered the higher grade fabric.  I didn’t design a pattern—just 
ordered someone else’s design.

> Christine - one thing I did to photograph artwork and especially things that 
> had, as you said, shiney bits, is to get some polarizing sheets and
> put them over lights on stands to the left and right of the subject at 45 
> degree angles , and shoot with a polarizer on the camera.. I did this to shoot
> packages of foil wrapped candies on a shelf  - a real PITA.. Can't remember 
> where I learned that - but I think it came from an article in one of the
> old photo magazines - and this was in the day of film, of course. The filters 
> on the lights were rotated so that they would be at crossed Nichols in 
> relation to the filter on the camera.


Excellent suggestions, Anne, I’ll definitely try this!  Copied to my notes! Big 
thanks!  Cheers, Christine 

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Re: photographing textile arts

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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Christine, I have photographed painted art, but small enough works
> that I could lay them on the floor and light and shoot down on them.
> 
> I do something like what you propose for portraits when I suspend
> custom painted canvas fabric backdrops from a cross-bar. Usually I
> hang the canvas by securing the short edge with many 4" plastic clamps
> to the cross-arm (an IKEA curtain rod) which is then hoisted up into
> the air with a C-stand boom arm. I use a Superclamp on the end of the
> boom arm to hold the curtain rod.

Yes, thanks!  Curtain rod et al!  This is excellent!

> 
> This means I need to crop out the highest portion of the canvas though
> to avoid seeing the clamps. That may not suit your purpose, of course.
> But you could clone them out in Photoshop.

Yes, cropping and cloning!  Good suggestions!

> By the way, when you light your fabric I suggest that you use two
> sources: one large soft light from behind the camera position for an
> even overall fill; and the second source being a hard light raking
> across the surface at a shallow angle in order to pick up the texture
> in the fabric. Also to make the beads and metal bits shinier and
> visible. You would need to play with the ratio of brightness of the
> two sources to control how much texture and contrast you capture.

Bruce, with the suggestions you make, what lens and what distance would you be 
shooting at—camera to art work distance?  What would you start with?

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Re: photographing textile arts

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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
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> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 7:38 PM Sandy Harris  wrote:
>> 
>> Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> 
>>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
>> 
>> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
>> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
>> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
>> works.
> 
> My experience is that moire rarely happens in real shooting involving
> fabrics so I never use the AA-simulation feature. (True, most of my
> shooting involves flash where the AA-simulation is useless anyway.)
> 
> I'd not want to engage the AA thingy while shooting fabrics with
> sequins and beads as that would dull the tiny reflective highlights
> that make that sort of subject so interesting. Besides, fabric art
> tends to be rough-hewn, irregular and coarser than the fine
> herringbone fabrics that do induce moire.

Hi Bruce:  That’s good to know, but it is possible that I would find myself 
shooting an appliqué art piece that might have fabrics like herringbone in 
them, but it would often be in small pieces rather than an entire piece in 
herringbone.  Good to know about the herringbone fabric issue.  Got it in my 
notes!  Thanks!
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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Sandy Harris  wrote:
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> Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
> 
> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
> works.

Hi Sandy!  YikesQ Hadn’t thought about moire.  I’ll have to read up on that, 
and I don’t think I have ever used Pentax’s AA filter alternative.  I can’t 
even remember if the K5 and K3 have that feature :-).  Thanks, Sandy for 
bringing this up!
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Re: photographing textile arts

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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
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> Hanging fabric may droop of its own weight. I would probable start with a 
> setup allowing you to put the material on a flat surface: the floor, a table, 
> etc, then shoot down from above. I’ve done a bit of this for for-the-record 
> shots of Meg’s, my sister in law’s, and my own (very limited) works. It takes 
> a special talent to properly mount/frame fabric and needlework and it would 
> be hard to replicate with a temporary setup with the object hung vertically.

Some of the artwork would probably already have laced mounting, so drooping 
wouldn’t be the problem, but you’re right, hanging fabric does have variables 
like drooping that would have to be dealt with, and if I ended up doing a lot 
of this, I would have to have multiple set-ups, shoot flat, shoot hanging etc.  
I probably would never be able to do large pieces since I don’t have the studio 
space for it.

Depending on the piece, shooting it still in the embroidery hoop or slate frame 
might work—though it depends on the piece, “white” space around the design 
perimeter etc, but with proper support, that might work too, like everything 
else, experimentation is necessary here.

Thanks, Stan!  Very helpful!  Cheers, Christine 

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Re: photographing textile arts

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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 3:14 PM, John  wrote:
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> On 6/21/2020 17:48:35, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Hi Everyone!
>> Hope all is well!
>> Quick question:
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
>> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
>> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
>> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
>> photographed?
>> I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has 
>> anyone used this stand to photograph art?
>> Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another 
>> stand to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?
>> Cheers, Christine
>> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> I have a permanently attached bar across the top of one wall in my living 
> room that has a cloth backdrop on it. (10' section of 1" EMT & a couple of 
> wall mounted plant hangers)
> 
> I also have a portable background support (2 light stands + a cross bar).
> 
> I have used the portable stand to hang a guitar so I could photograph it. I 
> used a black high strength fish line to hang the guitar that was easy to 
> Photoshop out afterwards.
> 
> I used a 4x8 foot white flat (actually just a piece of sheet-rock) that I 
> aimed the light at and let light reflect off of it to illuminate the subject. 
> That gives a very large soft light.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/50034197468

That’s very nice, John!—and excellent suggestions! I’ve copied them to my 
notes! Big thanks, John!



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Re: photographing textile arts

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> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone!
>> 
>> Hope all is well!  
>> 
>> Quick question:
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
>> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
>> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
>> 
>> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
>> photographed? 
> 
> Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points 
> sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and 
> drill some holes just big enough for some fabric pins.

Yep, I was thinking of something like this.



> As to lighting, Light, Science and Magic is a great resource for how to light 
> some of those challenging materials.

I’ll be sure to check out this title!
Thanks, Larry!

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photographing textile arts

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Hi Everyone!

Hope all is well!  

Quick question:
I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can often 
include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?

Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
photographed?

I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has anyone 
used this stand to photograph art?

Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another stand 
to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?

Cheers, Christine 



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Re: PESO - Dan's Tree

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Love it, Brian!  Light, color, subject—all of it works!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Jun 9, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> The tree that Dan & I photographed near the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge - 3 years
> apart:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ey7jmp1uohqwun/_IGP2352-K5-1x.jpg
> 
> Cheers
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Central Camera in Chicago and PDMLs Year End Quote List

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Hi Everyone!

I hope you and your families are well and safe during these very difficult 
times.

I thought I’d share a photography related story.  Many of you probably know of 
Central Camera store located downtown Chicago.  It’s a quirky but fun camera 
store, which has been in business for 121 years, founded 1899.  Don Flesh is 
the 3rd generation owner; his grand-father started the business; Flesh is aged 
72.

Sadly, Central Camera suffered looting and was burned out.  Flesh is confident 
he can get the store back up and running, which is good.  He is also not angry 
and stands “with the African American community in solidarity.”

On the one hand I share this story because, well, this is a photography list 
and this is a photography story  and I thought photographers on the list would 
be interested.

But on the other hand I thought I’d highlight two Flesh quotes that would have 
definitely made our PDML Quote List that Mark Roberts puts together every year 
had Flesh been a PDMLer.

Quote #1:  “I wanted to go in, but the looters, there were so many people 
walking by and I was a little bit shy and fearful and all I had was an umbrella 
that was closed, and I didn’t think I could knock out everybody.  No Rambo 
here,”  he said.

Quote #2:  “Flesh started the live interview by noting that he had run out of 
film and his phone had died so he was unable to photograph the scene.  Asked 
for his parting thoughts, he said, ‘I hope everybody is safe.  Everybody should 
learn a lesson.  What is the lesson?  Be prepared.  Have more film in your 
pocket.’”

I’ve included the link to the article below.  
https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-central-camera-chicago-protests-20200531-edkmqfinz5eitfjbmutzssl6tu-story.html
 


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Re: Peso: Snowbirds

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That’s pretty cool, Bill!  Cheers, Christine 

> On May 14, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Bill  wrote:
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> The Canadian air force has an aerobatic team flying incredibly old jet 
> trainers,  Canadair CT-114 Tutors. These planes were put into service in the 
> early 1960s, and while retired as training jets, are still being used by the 
> Snowbirds.
> They are doing a cross country flyover, and today they flew over my neck of 
> the woods.
> As always for these things, I got a late start and wasn't in the best 
> position for the flyover, but I was in a pretty good place to see them flying 
> in from their home base.
> This was shot with the K3 and the A*600mm lens.
> It's not great, it's not a lens I use enough to be really good with, but I 
> tried
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/snowbirds.html
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> bill
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Re: PESO 2020 - 100,101 - GDG

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Very nice, Godfrey.  Especially like the art shop mural.  It’s been an 
interesting project to follow.  Cheers, Christine 

> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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> A couple of pinhole photographs...
> 
> Art Shop Mural :: https://flic.kr/p/2iZfsWw
> Mailbox 208 :: https://flic.kr/p/2iZh3No
> 
> Both made in Japan Town, San Jose this week, using the SuperSense 6/66 
> Instant Pinhole Camera with Polaroid SX-70 B film, with the bellows set to 
> position #2, the 0.12mm pinhole, for 4 seconds. 
> 
> They mark a particular moment for me: They are the last two exposures of the 
> first pack of film I've put through this camera where *all* eight exposures 
> were actually successfully, usefully exposed. :) The film has progressed in 
> quality to where this is possible now … It wasn't possible four-five years 
> ago when I bought the camera!
> 
> enjoy!
> G
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> - William Least Heat Moon
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Re: PESO: you will see me in your dreams

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Super nice bug shot!  Cheers, Christine 

> On May 9, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
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> This large red damselfly staring at me is fortunately not that large:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/49873110188/in/photostream/
> 
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Re: Former PDML member hits the headlines

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Years ago I remember Tim posting that he and his wife had decided not to post 
any photos of their kids online.  They felt the kids were too young to  give 
consent.  Always had respect for that position—have even more respect for him 
WRT this recent decision.
Go Tim!
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> On May 4, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> Some of you will remember Tim Bray from when he was on the PDML a few
> years back and some of us even met him at the PDML Photo Annual
> exhibit in Chicago in 2010. He was working at Google at the time
> (heading the Android OS program, I believe) but apparently had moved
> on to become a big shot at Amazon - until Friday. He just resigned in
> protest over the way Amazon has fired the whistleblowers complaining
> about their treatment in warehouses in regard to Covid-19. Type "Tim
> Bray" into your favorite news search engine and he's all over it. 
> 
> And good for him for having a sense of ethics. Very rare in big
> business these days.
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Re: OT: Can't sleep

[Christine Aguila]

Very sorry for your loss, Jeffery.  Christine

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 12:58 AM, Jeffery Johnson | Photo Captures by Jeffery 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tried to go to bed but tossed and turned as I have a lot on my mind. For the 
> past week or so been going through stuff. I am packing up what I will be 
> taking and placing into storage. I at times have to stop cause something will 
> bring back a memory and even if it is a happy one I start crying.  It feels 
> like it was just yesterday I was packing up our stuff from a home we were in 
> for 22 years for the move down here and then unpacking and getting our new 
> home settled. Just wish we could reverse 2020 and choose a different 2020. I 
> will be moving in with my brother and his wife for a bit until I get back on 
> my feet again. I am hoping I can afford a small to medium sized home to buy 
> instead of renting as I don't want to deal with a chance the rent goes up. 
> Maybe I will be able to get out with my camera more than I have for several 
> months. Still stressing over monies and still miss my late partner every 
> single day.
> 
> Well I have rambled on long enough... Thanks for reading ...
> 
> Jeffery
> 
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Re: PESO old and new

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What Ken said!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 27, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Doesn’t work for me, the background is distracting.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Toine 
>> Sent: Apr 27, 2020 2:51 AM
>> Subject: PESO old and new
>> 
>> What's your opinion on this one:
>> 
>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/content/imgp1933/lightbox/
>> 
>> I tried to capture an old and a new tree branch. Not sure if it works.The
>> rounded blades of the DA100macro does create a nice bokeh. Should have used
>> f2.8 instead of f8.
>> 
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Re: GESO (6) - Woodland Cemetery

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Nice to see pretty blooms.  That sign made me laugh, 6 feet apart, 6 feet under 
. . . Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
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> Yesterday had beautiful weather, and the dogwoods and azaleas had popped:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Woodland-Cemetery-Apr-2020/
> 
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
> 
> Plaudits and brickbats both welcomed.
> 
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Re: PESO: Alien Birthday Greeting

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Cute!  Like Buelent said, a record of our times.  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 26, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Birthday Parties are a very big thing for grade school children in the
> suburbs where I live.  When my son was in that age group, we organized
> trips to the Gundt Bear, factory, Teterboro Airport, the New Jersey
> submarine, a sheep farm, and the county courthouse.  At home, there were
> ponies, clowns magicians, and robots.
> 
> Those kinds of parties are unthinkable in these days of lockdowns.
> Instead, we have drive-by birthday celebrations.  Friends of the birthday
> child have their parents drive them past the birthday kid's home, and they
> honk their horns, yell, wave and hold signs.
> 
> My neighbors' son had a birthday yesterday.  There was a parade of at least
> 30 cars filled with classmates, and 7 pieces of apparatus from two local
> volunteer fire companies.
> 
> This is the display we put at our driveway as part of the celebration:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/4/26/alien
> 
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> 
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Re: OT GESO - Lockdown Walkabout

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Super pretty area, Brian!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 27, 2020, at 2:37 AM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Lockdown here is lasting for another 3-4 weeks at least but, if we have to
> self-isolate, there would be a lot worse places than our little rural area in
> the far western area of Sydney.
> 
> Most days we go for a short walk up our quiet street - we've been coming 
> across
> neighbours we haven't talked to in decades!
> 
> Here's just a few photos taken on our walks. These were all taken with my Oly
> OMDs.  Sadly my Pentax gear doesn't see much action these days - if only that
> K-01 had come with a built in viewfinder, things might have been different 
> :-(.
> 
> http://lyons-ryan.org/Lockdown-Walkabout/
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: more blue sky

[Christine Aguila]

wow, that’s pretty!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 26, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Toine  wrote:
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> From today's photo walk (in the south of the netherlands)
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/content/bluesky/lightbox/
> 
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Re: A rude joke

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I like it!  Cute!  Cheers, Christine 

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Re: PESO corona sky

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Lovely!  Cheers, Christine  

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> On Apr 20, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Toine  wrote:
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> Blue skies every day. Not a single airplane.
> Strange days...
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Re: no more Santa Dave

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> On Apr 20, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 20/4/20, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> 
>> It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
>> whenever that will be
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/
> 
> On the downside, no more 'leftovers' ;-)


Shortly after Darrel & I set up house together (almost 30 years ago), we went 
out to dinner for a cheap and cheerful meal.

At one point I said to Darrel, “Honey, you have potato salad in your beard.” 

“You don’t let me save anything anymore,” he responded.

By the way, nice look, Dave!  Very nice indeed!

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Re: PESO: My house... my car... my beach

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Hi Ralf:  The juxtaposition of the two major elements is quite striking, but 
what makes the photo for me is the light.  My husband Darrel really likes your 
photo too!
Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 15, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> The building is known locally as "The house of the hanged man".
> 
> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/mein-haus-mein-auto-mein-strand-fotoralfbe/43723419
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> Ralf
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Re: PESO: Cherry Blossom Time

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Wow, Dan, that’s a beautiful tree!  Thanks for sharing.  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> My Kwanzan Cherry has not yet burst into bloom, but several weeping
> cherries in the neighborhood are brightening the local landscape.  This is
> the one I like best:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/4/12/cherry-blossoms
> 
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Re: April PUG is up

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Super nice PUG filled with great history!  Cheers, Christine 


> On Apr 4, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Hope everyone is well and maintaining social distancing. Fortunately, due to a
> bad case of procrastination over recent months, I'm having no problems in
> filling up my time at home :-)
> 
> View the April gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'Alleyways'.
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

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We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City of Chicago 
is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I think is a good idea.  

I’ve been pretty busy with shifting my teaching to online.  Our community 
college district shifted pretty quickly as things turned, and faculty have 
really risen to the occasion. This week I’ve had video sessions with students, 
and I’ve been greatly inspired by students wanting to persist with the semester 
despite these difficult circumstances. 

What is worrisome is finding food and supplies.  I haven’t been out in 10 days 
expect for a 30 minute walk in an empty park.  I’m not that keen on going to 
the store, but I will have to in the next few days, and, of course, I will take 
precautions.  Ordering online is great, but so much is out of stock and the 
wait times can sometimes be a bit long, but it just requires us to do a bit of 
rationing and be smart about how we use up supplies.  A constant refrain in the 
house is “we’ll just have to make do,” which everyone around the world is 
saying.

Also, we have some friends who are nurses, and I have some students whose mom’s 
are nurses, so we’re very worried about them.  There are women everywhere in 
America sewing cotton face masks for hospitals. Maybe you’ve seen the calls for 
face masks on Facebook.   I’d love to stitch some up since I have sewing 
skills, but my school work has my time pretty occupied.  Maybe I can stitch 
some up week after next, since we will be on spring break.

Christine




> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with 
> others. But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home 
> order effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but 
> otherwise Stay Home.
> 
> I’ve decided there is nothing else I can do, and so will try to ignore what 
> is happening elsewhere and start putting together some Blurb books, catching 
> up on travels I have done over the last 7 years.
> 
> I do have a new camera arriving from Adorama tomorrow, a Ricoh WG-70, but I 
> am thinking I will not be anyplace to fully take advantage of its features…
> 
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Re: OT Covid-19

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> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:44 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 15/3/20, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> The other day I found myself looking at Pentax lenses.  There's nothing
>> like a shinny new lens to rekindle photography! :-)
> 
> Amen!
> 
> Stay well xx

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Re: OT Covid-19

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I didn’t know either.  Dave, thinking of you guys!  Sending big hugs from 
Chicago.
Christine

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> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
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> I didn’t know either. She’ll be in my prayers.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Steve Cottrell 
>> Subject: Re: OT Covid-19
>> 
>> On 15/3/20, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> 
>>> My wife hopefully starts her chemo at least, later this week. I'm doing my
>>> part to sty out of the lime light for her so i dont catch it. I'm sure it
>>> woul dbe nasty for her.
>> 
>> Dave, I didn't know - my very best regards to the WD.
>> 
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Re: OT Covid-19

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Hi Paul & Everyone Else!

Hope you feel better soon, Paul! Thinking of you!

Darrel & I were able to get some groceries today, which is good, but absolutely 
no toilet paper to be found; boxes of tissue will have to do until we can 
secure TP.

City Colleges here in Chicago is shifting to online learning.  We will take 
next week to prepare for the shift.

I was hoping to do a little photography in the next few weeks, a photowalk or 
two, and post some shots and rejoin all the PDML fun,  but I might be a bit 
distracted now with the attention needed for the online shift—and, of course, 
all those airborn germs have given me pause.

I have been lurking a bit, but I’ve been light on the photography.  I did shoot 
a basketball game awhile back, and I got this great jump shot, but I missed the 
focus.  I wept.

The other day I found myself looking at Pentax lenses.  There’s nothing like a 
shinny new lens to rekindle photography! :-)

I think of you guys all the time!  I still consider myself part of the 
gang—I’ve just been on a little break!

Big cheers, Christine & Darrel




> On Mar 15, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I have had some sort of nasty respiratory condition for six days. I’m on line 
> to be tested now. It’s in the parking lot of a hospital. I’ve only been out 
> of the house 3 times in the last month,
> 
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Re: PESO: Head Shot

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Hey Dan that’s fun!  Good one!  Cheers, Christine 

> 

> On Sep 22, 2019, at 7:48 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> This lovely young lass stopped by our pool patio late yesterday, so I
> grabbed a quick portrait:
> 
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> 
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Re: RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

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Sad to hear, but like everyone has said, a good long life to be sure.  I love 
his book The Americans.  I think I’ll pay homage and have another wander 
through the pages tonight.
 Christine 

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> On Sep 10, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
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> I'm a big fan of The Americans, and just saw the announcement on Magnum's 
> Instagram feed.
> 
> People do give a great deal of credit for the success of The Americans as a 
> work in its own right as an object rather than just a collection of photos to 
> Robert Delpire, who did the layout and the first publication, in France.
> 
> I'd love to see the contact sheets.
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2019, at 15:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, 94 is a good long life at least... (though someone who is still alive 
>> at that age may disagee) I have "The Americans" in my library as well , and 
>> ya gotta know I'm a fan girl.
>> 
>> Fairly recently there was a nice retrospecitve at the Met that was 
>> splendid... showing some contact sheets with china marker circles indicating 
>> his choices for enlargement..
>> 
>> ann sad
>> 
>>> On 9/10/2019 9:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> Sad news today:
>>> 
>>> Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94
>>> Mr. Frank’s visually raw and personally expressive style made him one of 
>>> the most influential photographers of the 20th century.
>>> 
>>>  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/arts/robert-frank-dead.html
>>> 
>>> His photographs turned my head and got under my skin in 1970. I still have 
>>> the used 1968 paperback edition of “The Americans” I bought at a bookstore 
>>> on Fordham Road in the Bronx, NY, then…
>>> 
>>> I am so happy I was able to see his talk at the Kantor Museum (Stanford 
>>> University, Palo Alto, CA 2014). My friend Linda called and invited me to 
>>> join her: she was photographing the talk for the University.
>>> 
>>>  https://flic.kr/p/q5vzFK
>>> 
>>> Godspeed, Robert!
>>> 
>>> G
>>> —
>>> Only in silence the word,
>>> only in dark the light,
>>> only in dying, life;
>>>  bright the hawk's flight
>>>  on the empty sky.
>>> 
>>> - "Song of Ea", Ursula K. Le Guin
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Re: I'm Getting Married...

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Hi Paul!
Big congrats from Chicago!  Wishing you both the very best!  
May all your ups and downs be in between the sheets!  :-)
P.S.  I learned that toast at an Irish wedding.  An Irish priest gave it!  I 
kid you not!
Big cheers, Christine and Darrel

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> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:58 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> In the morning. Well, it’s actually early afternoon this Saturday, but that 
> spoils the alliteration. We didn’t hire a wedding photographer. Too expensive 
> for a couple of septuagenarians. So we’re counting on the small number of 
> friends and relatives present to shoot a lot of cell phone pics. Should be 
> fun. I know my bride is always entertaining in addition to being a great 
> partner. We both lost our partners to the afterlife following  long, happy 
> marriages, so we’re looking forward to life, part two.
> Paul
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Re: PESO Grand Canyon

[Christine Aguila]

Yea, they finally moved that big boulder in front of my cave, so I have 
internet again :-)!
Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 24, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Hey, Christine;  Haven't seen you here for a while. Glad Paul's image
> brought you out of hiding!
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Re: PESO Grand Canyon

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Wow!  Very appealing image!  Love the sky and colors!  I agree with Paul, 
though; I too wonder if it’s over sharpened.  Still, a very nice image, Paul.  
Cheers, Christine 

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> On Apr 23, 2019, at 12:36 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> From a recent trip to Arizona - from the south rim looking northeast - six 
> shot pano stitched and processed in On1 Photo RAW.
> 
> http://studio1941.com/koken/albums/pdml-peso/content/grand-canyon-pano-k3-3765/
> 
> K-3 & Tamron 18-200
> 
> -p
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> Sooner or later "different" scares people.
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Re: The Horror! The Horror!

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I agree!  Had an out-loud chuckle at Ann’s response!

Though sorry to hear about the Leica, Bob!  Hope the fix is easy on the 
pocketbook!
Cheers, Christine 

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 2:39 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> and Ann wins the internet today.
> 
> 
> On 10/21/2018 8:20 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> Intersting framing , and geometry .. but if you are going to photograph 
>> fireworks, you might wantto shoot in color .
>> 
>> xo,
>> ann


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Re: Peso: Random Flowers

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That’s just beautiful, Bill!  Just beautiful!

Cheers, Christine 

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> On Jul 20, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> This is a focus stack with the D FA 50/1.4. After some testing, I determined 
> it's best aperture is f/5.6, so that is what I shot at.
> I'm over the moon happy with this lens so far.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/K13599-3626stack.html
> 
> Technical: Pentax K1, D FA* 50mm f/1.4 1/5 second. 28 image stack
> 
> enjoy
> 
> bill
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USB HUB Recommendation for MacBook Pro

[Christine Aguila]

Hi All:

I’m in the market for a USB hub to plug into my MacBook Pro/Retina 2013.  I’d 
like at least 3 USB ports in the hub for external drives.  The Belkin on the 
Apple web site didn’t have good reviews.

Can anyone recommend a good hub?

Cheers, Christine
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Lightroom Advice Needed!

[Christine Aguila]

Hi All:
Hope this post finds everyone well!  

Here’s my situation:
1) On my old iMac (2011), I have the stand alone Lightroom version, which has 2 
or 3 catalogues.
2) The RAW files for these catalogues are on two external hard drives connected 
to my iMac.

Here’s my goal:
1) Bring the catalogues from the iMac into my Lightroom Classic Creative Cloud 
version on my laptop.  In doing this, I would, of course, then hook up my 
external hard drives to the laptop via the two USB drives.

Reasons for setting this goal:
1) For reasons I won’t go into, I’m going to loose free, easy, and daily access 
to my iMac.
2) The iMac is getting old.
3) I want all my photos in one place.
4) I want to be more mobile; during lazy evenings when Darrel and I are in the 
living room with the tv on, I want to be with him, and I want to work on my 
photos.

Here’s my query:
1) To achieve my goal, is it just a matter of just exporting the catalogues on 
my desktop to, say, a flash drive, then import these catalogues into Lightroom 
on my laptop?  Then, of course, plug in my external drives?

2) I back up my catalogues to my external drives.  Would it be easier to just 
import the back-ups into Lightroom on my laptop?

3) Any other suggestions or tips I should consider?

Cheers, Christine 

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Re: Lightroom CC

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> On May 21, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Christine, Bob, I will try to clarify. I slightly misspoke, and also we are 
> talking about different programs.
> Too many versions with almost the same name.
> Old = LR5.x or LR6.x
> Newer = LR Classic CC[or LR Classic Cheers, 
> Christine when customized for a particular user?]
> Newest = LR Creative Cloud aka LR CC
> 
> My chronology may be a bit off, LR Classic CC may well have come along after 
> LR CC, but Old, Newer, Newest equates to degree of integration to the Cloud. 
> As I understand it.
> 
> In the Old LR6.x, if I installed the Mobile App on my iPad, I had the 
> behavior I described above. I.e., I could review/edit/synch material on my 
> iPad. But only images which had been selectively sent to the Cloud from my 
> desktop by indicating/selecting a collection to be synched.
> 
> In the Newer LR Classic CC which you and I are using Christine, yes you can 
> selectively synch new images from your iPad to the Cloud as well as work with 
> images which you have selectively synched from your desktop to the Cloud. 
> Because of connectivity issues while traveling, I have not used this set of 
> features.
> 
> In the Newest LR CC which I believe you are contemplating, Bob, I do believe 
> that all of your images live in the Cloud. Whether you take a shot with your 
> phone or import to your iPad or download from a card to your desktop, if you 
> import to LR from any device anywhere, it will go to the Cloud within your 
> catalogue there. I believe you can back up your images and your catalogue on 
> your local internal and/or external  drives, but the assumption seems to be 
> that you are working within the Cloud. When traveling without connectivity, I 
> assume that the images on your device are just accumulated in a buffer of 
> sorts and squirted to the Cloud once you are back in the civilized world of 
> high speed connections. I.e., yes I believe you are right Bob.
> 
> One additional note: it is my impression that the newest version, i.e. LR CC, 
> does not yet have all of the editing tools available in LR Classic CC. I have 
> no idea what is “missing” and haven’t paid attention as I have no interest in 
> a total-Cloud solution.

Yes, this is key!!! With LR CC you DO NOT have access to the Print, Book, 
Slideshow, and Map Modules.

I tried to send a response to PDML with the adobe link which has Julianne  
Kost’s good video on the differences between the Lightroom versions, but it 
seems to be held up for administrator approval.


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Re: Lightroom CC

[Christine Aguila]

That should read I opened LR Classic Creative Cloud—I’ve got it programmed so 
that when I type CC it types out Cheers, Christine.  LOL!

Cheers, Christine 

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> On May 20, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Christine Aguila <christ...@caguila.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stan:
> Today I did some testing on the syncing issue you speak to at the end of your 
> post.  I took a photo in imported it to my iPad Pro via the SD card reader 
> and plugged into the Lightening port.  The frame imported to my camera roll, 
> then I imported into the Mobile Lightroom app.  I then made some tweaks.  
> Then I forced a sync.  I then opened LR Classic Cheers, Christine on my 
> laptop and the frame was synced with the adjustments I made on the iPad Pro.
> 
> It would be great if Godfrey could jump in here and help us clarify issues 
> :-).
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 20, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Bob, my understanding (which may be a year or two out of date) is that the 
>> LR Classic CC (which I use BTW) allows for the Cloud-based storage and synch 
>> of selected Collections from within LR. If you are going to a total 
>> Cloud-based storage system, then that would be Lightroom CC, not Classic. 
>> Which sounds like a wonderful system for those that have uninterrupted 
>> access to high speed wifi. For me, traveling in the jungles of Peru or on 
>> the high seas without good connections or in the UK or EU without having 
>> signed up for a unlimited data plan, it doesn’t make sense. 
>> When traveling, even with good connections to the net, I still don’t synch 
>> via Adobe’s Cloud platform because with LR Classic CC you can only synch and 
>> work on Collections that have been created back home on your desktop or 
>> laptop and sent off into the Cloud. Which would be fine if I wanted to have 
>> access to older images and review/rate/edit in my spare time. But I don’t. 
>> Again note that my understanding may be out-of-date…
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Christine,
>>> 
>>> Thanks. How did you find that out about punch and sharpness? Is there a 
>>> site somewhere that reveals these arcane secrets?
>>> 
>>> It's true for version 6 and earlier that the catalogue must be on a local 
>>> drive, but of course it can't be true* for CC otherwise it wouldn't work 
>>> across devices. The difference is (I assume - I haven't looked into it yet) 
>>> that with CC the catalogue is not a separately locatable thing, from the 
>>> user's point of view.
>>> 
>>> If I decide to subscribe to CC then I will migrate everything. It's easier 
>>> to have everything in one place. Adobe seem fairly generous with the 
>>> storage. I will look into how I can sync automatically with my local 
>>> storage for back-up, not use, in case Adobe gets deleted overnight by 
>>> Russian hackers.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> *except that it must sit on a server somewhere in the cloud 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 20 May 2018, at 21:28, Christine Aguila <christ...@caguila.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Bob:
>>>> 
>>>> I am a Lightroom Classic CC version 7.3.1 user on my laptop MacBook Pro 
>>>> s/Retina 2013 13-inch.
>>>> I also have the Lightroom mobile app on my iPad Pro 10 inch and iPhone 6, 
>>>> though I have only just started using these, so I’m


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Re: Lightroom CC

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Hi Stan:
Today I did some testing on the syncing issue you speak to at the end of your 
post.  I took a photo in imported it to my iPad Pro via the SD card reader and 
plugged into the Lightening port.  The frame imported to my camera roll, then I 
imported into the Mobile Lightroom app.  I then made some tweaks.  Then I 
forced a sync.  I then opened LR Classic Cheers, Christine on my laptop and the 
frame was synced with the adjustments I made on the iPad Pro.

It would be great if Godfrey could jump in here and help us clarify issues :-).

Cheers, Christine 

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> On May 20, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> 
> wrote:
> 
> Bob, my understanding (which may be a year or two out of date) is that the LR 
> Classic CC (which I use BTW) allows for the Cloud-based storage and synch of 
> selected Collections from within LR. If you are going to a total Cloud-based 
> storage system, then that would be Lightroom CC, not Classic. Which sounds 
> like a wonderful system for those that have uninterrupted access to high 
> speed wifi. For me, traveling in the jungles of Peru or on the high seas 
> without good connections or in the UK or EU without having signed up for a 
> unlimited data plan, it doesn’t make sense. 
> When traveling, even with good connections to the net, I still don’t synch 
> via Adobe’s Cloud platform because with LR Classic CC you can only synch and 
> work on Collections that have been created back home on your desktop or 
> laptop and sent off into the Cloud. Which would be fine if I wanted to have 
> access to older images and review/rate/edit in my spare time. But I don’t. 
> Again note that my understanding may be out-of-date…
> 
> stan
> 
>> On May 20, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Christine,
>> 
>> Thanks. How did you find that out about punch and sharpness? Is there a site 
>> somewhere that reveals these arcane secrets?
>> 
>> It's true for version 6 and earlier that the catalogue must be on a local 
>> drive, but of course it can't be true* for CC otherwise it wouldn't work 
>> across devices. The difference is (I assume - I haven't looked into it yet) 
>> that with CC the catalogue is not a separately locatable thing, from the 
>> user's point of view.
>> 
>> If I decide to subscribe to CC then I will migrate everything. It's easier 
>> to have everything in one place. Adobe seem fairly generous with the 
>> storage. I will look into how I can sync automatically with my local storage 
>> for back-up, not use, in case Adobe gets deleted overnight by Russian 
>> hackers.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bob
>> 
>> *except that it must sit on a server somewhere in the cloud 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 May 2018, at 21:28, Christine Aguila <christ...@caguila.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bob:
>>> 
>>> I am a Lightroom Classic CC version 7.3.1 user on my laptop MacBook Pro 
>>> s/Retina 2013 13-inch.
>>> I also have the Lightroom mobile app on my iPad Pro 10 inch and iPhone 6, 
>>> though I have only just started using these, so I’m


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Re: Lightroom CC

[Christine Aguila]

On the laptop version, on the right side panel where all the develop tools are, 
you can see the adjustments that are made when you choose the presets located 
on the left-side panel.  Take a screen shot of the medium contrast curve on the 
laptop, then try to copy the curve diagram.   For Punch and Face/Scenic 
sharpening the numbers are explicitly shown.

I do a catalogue back up to an external drive.  Am I right in thinking, that I 
can import catalogue back-ups into my laptop Lightroom Creative Cloud and plug 
in my external drives to the laptop and I should be good to go?—Or do I have 
this wrong?


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> On May 20, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christine,
> 
> Thanks. How did you find that out about punch and sharpness? Is there a site 
> somewhere that reveals these arcane secrets?
> 
> It's true for version 6 and earlier that the catalogue must be on a local 
> drive, but of course it can't be true* for CC otherwise it wouldn't work 
> across devices. The difference is (I assume - I haven't looked into it yet) 
> that with CC the catalogue is not a separately locatable thing, from the 
> user's point of view.
> 
> If I decide to subscribe to CC then I will migrate everything. It's easier to 
> have everything in one place. Adobe seem fairly generous with the storage. I 
> will look into how I can sync automatically with my local storage for 
> back-up, not use, in case Adobe gets deleted overnight by 
> 
> Cheers,
> Bob
> 
> *except that it must sit on a server somewhere in the cloud 
> 
> 
>> On 20 May 2018, at 21:28, Christine Aguila <christ...@caguila.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bob:
>> 
>> I am a Lightroom Classic CC version 7.3.1 user on my laptop MacBook Pro 
>> s/Retina 2013 13-inch.
>> I also have the Lightroom mobile app on my iPad Pro 10 inch and iPhone 6, 
>> though I have only just started using these, so I’m still learning.
>> 
>> Punch equals Clarity +30 and Vibrance +25.
>> Sharpen for Faces equals Amount 35 and Radius 1.4 and Detail 15 and Masking 
>> 60
>> Sharpen for Landscape equals Amount 40 and Radius 0.8 and Detail 35 and 
>> Masking 0
>> 
>> I haven’t migrated a catalogue to the cloud.  I thought catalogues could 
>> only sit on a drive—external or internal. I think you can export a catalogue 
>> and import it to an existing catalogue, but if what I just said is true, 
>> wouldn’t the imported catalogue have to sit on a drive as well?
>> 
>> I have Lightroom 6, version 6.14 on my iMac 2011 desktop, but my 
>> understanding is Adobe is done with the stand alone, and will not be 
>> offering further updates.  I’m quite undecided about what to do.  Should I 
>> bring all photos over to the laptop or continue working the two versions?  
>> What to do?  What to do?
>> 
>> Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What ho!
>>> 
>>> I’ve just started trialling LR CC on my iPhone, iPad and on my Windows 10 
>>> laptop alongside classic LR v5. 
>>> 
>>> The idea is to use my Leica when I’m cycling in France later this year - 
>>> previously I’ve used my Fuji X20 - import from the SD card into LR on the 
>>> iPhone, edit, post from LR directly to my Wordpress site. 
>>> 
>>> So far, so good. That process works quite nicely.
>>> 
>>> This mobile version of LR is very impressive, easy to use, quick and quite 
>>> comprehensive. Most of the editing controls that I’m likely to use are 
>>> quite obvious and simple. The big change that strikes me is the way 
>>> profiles work, or maybe it’s just the labelling. 
>>> 
>>> In v5 and earlier my normal process, for colour, has been to use the medium 
>>> contrast curve, sharpen for landscape or faces as appropriate, and add 
>>> Punch. That’s it usually- it’s rare that I do much else.
>>> 
>>> If anyone here is using CC, do you know which settings are the equivalent 
>>> of those above?
>>> 
>>> For B I just flip through the B profiles and choose whichever looks 
>>> best for the shot. Nothing fancy.
>>> 
>>> There is an option in CC to migrate your catalogue to the cloud. This seems 
>>> to be the only way to use an existing catalogue. I don’t mind doing that, 
>>> in principle, but before I do I want to be sure I’m not going to get myself 
>>> swamped in bullshit. Anybody done this yet and wants to share some war 
>>> stories?
>>> 
>>> I’

Re: Lightroom CC

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Bob:

I am a Lightroom Classic CC version 7.3.1 user on my laptop MacBook Pro 
s/Retina 2013 13-inch.
I also have the Lightroom mobile app on my iPad Pro 10 inch and iPhone 6, 
though I have only just started using these, so I’m still learning.

Punch equals Clarity +30 and Vibrance +25.
Sharpen for Faces equals Amount 35 and Radius 1.4 and Detail 15 and Masking 60
Sharpen for Landscape equals Amount 40 and Radius 0.8 and Detail 35 and Masking 0

I haven’t migrated a catalogue to the cloud.  I thought catalogues could only 
sit on a drive—external or internal. I think you can export a catalogue and 
import it to an existing catalogue, but if what I just said is true, wouldn’t 
the imported catalogue have to sit on a drive as well?

I have Lightroom 6, version 6.14 on my iMac 2011 desktop, but my understanding 
is Adobe is done with the stand alone, and will not be offering further 
updates.  I’m quite undecided about what to do.  Should I bring all photos over 
to the laptop or continue working the two versions?  What to do?  What to do?

Cheers, Christine




> On May 19, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> What ho!
> 
> I’ve just started trialling LR CC on my iPhone, iPad and on my Windows 10 
> laptop alongside classic LR v5. 
> 
> The idea is to use my Leica when I’m cycling in France later this year - 
> previously I’ve used my Fuji X20 - import from the SD card into LR on the 
> iPhone, edit, post from LR directly to my Wordpress site. 
> 
> So far, so good. That process works quite nicely.
> 
> This mobile version of LR is very impressive, easy to use, quick and quite 
> comprehensive. Most of the editing controls that I’m likely to use are quite 
> obvious and simple. The big change that strikes me is the way profiles work, 
> or maybe it’s just the labelling. 
> 
> In v5 and earlier my normal process, for colour, has been to use the medium 
> contrast curve, sharpen for landscape or faces as appropriate, and add Punch. 
> That’s it usually- it’s rare that I do much else.
> 
> If anyone here is using CC, do you know which settings are the equivalent of 
> those above?
> 
> For B I just flip through the B profiles and choose whichever looks best 
> for the shot. Nothing fancy.
> 
> There is an option in CC to migrate your catalogue to the cloud. This seems 
> to be the only way to use an existing catalogue. I don’t mind doing that, in 
> principle, but before I do I want to be sure I’m not going to get myself 
> swamped in bullshit. Anybody done this yet and wants to share some war 
> stories?
> 
> I’m assuming that I won’t be able to use the cloud catalogue from LR v5. Is 
> there a way to keep the local copy that’s on my laptop automatically 
> synchronised with the cloud copy, in the way that MS OneDrive syncs?
> 
> Anything else I should know before I subscribe and stop using LR v5?
> 
> TIA,
> Bob
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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

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That’s one wonderful video, Cotty!  Beautifully shot, informative, and super 
interesting.  Congrats!  Cheers, Christine


> On May 15, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pentaxians
> 
> Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, 
> and even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of 
> folk enjoying themselves in a different environment...
> 
> I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this video 
> for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.
> 
> Proud of this one! Enjoy...
> 
> 
> 
> (links direct to a Youtube video page)
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: PESO: Kwanzan

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> On May 13, 2018, at 4:06 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2018 1:50:27 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> On 13/5/18, l...@red4est.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> Very nice
>> 
>> There an echo in here?
> 
> You can say that again.
> 

Very nice, Dan!

Cheers, Christine 




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Re: Sony A7II

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> On May 13, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Christine Aguila wrote:
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2018, at 8:18 AM, mike wilson<m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What concerns me more is that Sony stuff is very difficult and expensive to 
>>> repair.  In my experience, Sony won't release parts to other than 
>>> franchised repairers.  Very annoying when you just want to replace a 
>>> cracked case or something equally simple.
>> 
>> I’m not really in the market for the Sony, but I’m glad you mentioned the 
>> above.   Good to know.
> 
> Sony does seem to make the best performing mirrorless camera in the 35mm 
> sensor range, unfortunately I don't trust them as far as I can throw a 
> rootkit.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal


Wow!  I didn’t know about that.  If I did, I forgot about it, but given what a 
shitty move that was, I don’t think I’d forget.   That’s a really shitty thing 
to do to consumers.

Christine

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Re: Sony A7II

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On May 12, 2018, at 10:48 AM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote:
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> On 12/5/18, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II--the mirrorless full frame. 
>> Wow!  It felt really nice in-hand.  I thought the auto-focus had some
>> zip to it as well.  
> 
> The A7 has ended up being the weapon of choice as a small 3rd video camera 
> for professional TV camera monkeys so the video must be good. I haven't 
> trodden that path, mainly because I'm scaling back as I head to retirement 
> soon. They're all buying 4K stuff now (even though nobody's asking for TX in 
> 4K yet, still HD).
> 
> I've already bought my retirement present (the Pen F) and I'm looking forward 
> to doing some shooting with it any my Fujis when I can pack in all this TV 
> nonesense ;-)
> 
> And just to keep it on-topic, I do (of course) use some Pentax lenses 

I think I”m going to start thinking of what my retirement present will be.

Cheers, Christine 

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Re: Sony A7II

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Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2018, at 8:18 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> What concerns me more is that Sony stuff is very difficult and expensive to 
> repair.  In my experience, Sony won't release parts to other than franchised 
> repairers.  Very annoying when you just want to replace a cracked case or 
> something equally simple.

I’m not really in the market for the Sony, but I’m glad you mentioned the 
above.   Good to know.

Cheers, Christine 

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Sony A7II

[Christine Aguila]

Hi All:

I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II—the mirrorless full frame.  Wow!  It 
felt really nice in-hand.  I thought the auto-focus had some zip to it as well. 
 

Just sayin  :-)

Cheers, Christine
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Re: New Member

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> On May 5, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Dale H. Cook <radiot...@plymouthcolony.net> 
> wrote:
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> At 09:46 AM 5/5/2018, Christine Aguila wrote:
> 
>> ... but the more important question is what is your view of cormorants?
> 
> Christine -
> 
> My view of then is best from a distance. The closest I want to get to a 
> cormorant is one pictured on a Packard hood ornament. The Packard brothers 
> who founded the company were distant cousins.

Chances are you will see a picture or two of the cormorant—so you’re safe!  :-)
The cormorant is the PDML mascot!

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Re: New Member

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Hi Dale:

Welcome aboard!  Declaring your favorite scotch is all well and good, but the 
more important question is what is your view of cormorants?

Cheers, Christine




> On May 2, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Dale H. Cook  
> wrote:
> 
> I am a recently retired broadcast engineer who is taking up photography as a 
> hobby after using it largely only for work and genealogical research over the 
> last 30+ years. Most of my genealogical photography going forward will 
> undoubtedly be photographing gravestones in B, the preferred format for 
> those photos (I am a member of the Association for Gravestone Studies).
> 
> I used SLRs for years (most recently a Pentax K-1000). but switched to a 
> digital camera (a Sony Cybershot) about 15 years ago for convenience. With 
> retirement I decided to upgrade, and recently bought a Pentax K-70 with a DA 
> 18-270mm as my walking-around lens. I am still mastering the amazing array of 
> settings but am making progress. I am using a variety of colored B filters 
> for gravestones, because 1) I am on old guy who was used to doing that with 
> film, and 2) although I have done a fair amount of image post-production over 
> the years I would rather get the correct image in-camera than fix it in post.
> 
> Dale H. Cook, 50+ years as an SLR photographer,
> Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm lens, using
> colored filters for B gravestone photography 
> 
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Re: how hideous

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> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:26 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> 
> On 12 Apr 2018, at 07:44, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/4/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> I just can't imagine...
>>> 
>> 
>> https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/
>> 
>> I could see how that might have applications in the film industry in terms 
>> of location scouting or DoP recce recordings etc.
>> 
> 
> Big important movies are being made on iPhone now, and winning prizes. I’m 
> interested to see how this pans out, so to speak. 


Me too!  This is very interesting.  I’m definitely up for trying my 21mm & 40mm 
on a set up like this—provided I had the money to purchase the adapter—could be 
pricey.

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Re: Galloway update

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Morris:

Very sorry to hear this!  I hope you feel better soon.  Thinking of you!  
Cheers, Christine

> On Apr 9, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Morris Galloway  
> wrote:
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> Health concerns force me to withdraw participation.  It has been a great run 
> and I thank all of you who have corresponded. May God Bless Us All!
> 
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Photos: Sulfur Mining on Active Volcano

[Christine Aguila]

Thought some of you might enjoy this!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-sight/wp/2018/03/09/stunning-photos-of-treacherous-sulfur-mining-on-an-active-volcano/?utm_term=.b8e6078f4a7c

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Re: March PUG - Arches - is up

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Agreed!  Varied, Dynamic, Very Interesting.  Great collection!  Cheers, 
Christine



> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 7/3/18, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> 
>> View here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> What a fabulous gallery! Well done all - hit rate was 100% - not a duffer 
> among them ;-)
> 
> All superb.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
> 
> 
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Re: Visual communication of photographers

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> On Feb 24, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
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> 
> Oops...
> /me is embarrassed... And I had thought that I should write it correctly,
> but somehow misspelled Christine's name. My apology Christine!

Not a problem, Igor.  No worries.  Cheers, Christine
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Re: Visual communication of photographers

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> On Feb 24, 2018, at 3:46 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
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>> On 23 February 2018 at 20:07 Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Communication is a hard skill.
>> Effective Communication is yet even harder.
>> (Christina A., who is, IIRC, a specialist in Communication can probably 
>> vouch for that.)
> 
> I think she just sings a bit.  Christine A., however, is a professor in such 
> things.

Several hundred years ago when I just started out, students used to miss-speak 
my name.  For a time, on the first day of class, I would say, “Hi I’m professor 
Aguila, and I don’t sing.”
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Re: Visual communication of photographers

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Well, here goes:

How an entity (company or periodical) handles issues like photo captions might 
be more of an issue of style rather than effective communication.  Style in 
this sense means how they handle photo captions, spacing, names of sources, et 
al—think of the various style manuals:  APA, MLA, AP, Chicago Manual of Style, 
NYT Style  etc.

I would argue effective communication is different—it’s the art of using 
language expressively and strategically to communicate a message for a 
particular purpose and for a specific audience.

I do agree though that effective communication is a skill that has to be 
practiced—but it’s not unattainable.

As to the order you describe, maybe—and I’m just guessing here—the order is 
based on the assumption the viewer looks at the front row first then moves 
towards the back, so this becomes reflected in the order of names in the photo 
caption.

I had meant to respond to the school photo point you originally posted. A 
friend wanted me to take photos of her children, and I agreed to take a few 
candids.  In conversation, she mentioned school photos were so boring etc etc.  
Gently, I expressed my view that school photos are actually quite important.  
In a no nonsense, no fuss way, they capture the student at yearly 
intervals—depicting physical development and if lucky a bit of spirit—a bit of 
personality.  Watching the development from year to year is amazing—and 
heartwarming in my view.

Now I’m not suggesting this is an either/or situation—both professionally taken 
family photos, candids, at home Kodak moments—and school photos all have a 
place in the mix of documenting kids—they are all important—and fun to have!

The thread also made me nostalgic, and I pulled out all my old school photos, 
which for grades 1-8 were always group photos.  We never had single portraits 
in grammar school—always class group shots.  There were a few closed eyes, but 
nothing really consistent. For the most part, we all just looked at the camera 
and smiled.  I love the group shots—especially in grammar school, since you 
spent an entire year in class with the same students.  Individual portraits 
make more sense in high school given the structure of U.S. high school.

I have no idea what tricks the photographer used to get the overwhelming 
majority of students to settle down and pay attention to the camera—but the 
photos show nothing fancy—just get the shorter kids in the front rows and the 
taller kids in the back.  The boys always wore ties, and the girls 
dresses—though that changed in 1972, when the Chicago Public schools allowed 
girls to start wearing pants to school, so in 7th & 8th grade, some girls wore 
pants.

If I was a parent and the photos were consistently bad with respect to eyes 
closed etc., I’d complain, especially if the portraits are individual head 
shots rather than group shots—though I do appreciate the challenges of shooting 
school photos.  Maybe the teachers have to be more involved in helping the 
photographer get the younger ducklings to settle down—a kind of team effort.  I 
don’t know if that happens these days.  Still, if you’re not hiring skilled 
talent and/or it’s all rather assembly line, well, it makes it kind of hard on 
a competent photographer to get the best results.

Cheers, Christine





> On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Good Communication is a hard skill.
> Effective Communication is yet even harder.
> (Christina A., who is, IIRC, a specialist in Communication can probably vouch 
> for that.)
> 
> I am always surprised when fairly standard things are done awkwardly.
> The school group photo I mentioned a few days ago has a "caption":
> three lines of names for the three rows of people in the photo.
> That's nice, so you don't have to painfully think of the name of that guy 
> that kept taking your pencils without asking your permission.
> 
> But, the order of lines is in reverse, i.e. the "Front row" is written on 
> top, and the back row is at the bottom. Why? To make it more challenging to 
> match the names, so that you would feel more rewarded in the end?
> 
> Argh!...
> 
> It reminded me of the "Ahead Stop" practice for the road markings in the US: 
> https://xkcd.com/781/
> (Read the comment that appears on "mouse-over")
> 
> Cheers and have a good weekend!
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
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Re: Peso - Nude descending staircase

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That’s fun, Ann!  Good eye!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:38 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> perfectly SFW...
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2017-snaps/i-TxpgHfs/L
> 
> In my building Dec 28th
> 
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Re: Peso - Reading matter

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Nice one, Ann!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Jan 4, 2018, at 7:35 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> WEnt for a walk around the neighborhood in the snow - well - had a couple of 
> errands.  Took only the darkside
> p - just in case..
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2017-snaps/i-s8BtLjT/A
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> all these containers hold different free newspapers... which didn't get much 
> respect from the
> shovelers
> 
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