Re: PESO s spinning fire
Great shots, Larry! I never quite got the hang of shooting the fire spinners while we were out there. The closest I manage to get was near the end of the spinning and was ruined by the fact that I'd zoomed in too tight so that the fire left the frame and re-entered at the outer edges. Kind of a bummer. Cool for you, though! -- Walt On 4/10/2011 9:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was at a birthday party last night and they brought out the poi to spin fire. I got a couple of decent shots. The first was a 0.8 second exposure, with flash: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5607313780/in/set-72157626344718447/ The second, when the fire was going out, was a 0.8 second exposure, no flash, and a bit of post processing: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5606729703/in/set-72157626344718447/ Both, FA31, f/4.5 ISO 100 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT but I wanted to share
Indeed, that is great to hear. We should all be so fortunate to have (and be) neighbors like that. I don't literally think Wow! very often, but this did it. -- Walt On 4/7/2011 1:12 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Good to hear folks like that are still around. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com Subject: OT but I wanted to share For those of you are FB friends, you've already heard about this Our power went off at about 1:00 am Tuesday morning. We went for my IV therapy Tuesday and when we returned, a great neighbor/friend had drained old gas, cleaned and got our generator started, giving us lights and TV. The windstorm had also taken out our cable service, and this same friend bought and installed a digital TV antenna so we could at least have over the air reception. Just shows a how great it is to have good neighbors/friends Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Submissions to Larry's Scavenger Hunt
Yeah, there was something not quite right about that bird. Thanks, Steve! -- Walt On 4/6/2011 10:24 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-04-03 19:36 , Walter Gilbert wrote: In any event, some of these have been posted to the list before, but they fit the categories well, so I figured I might as well use them. And here they are: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626423183364/ that bird is giving me a dirty look! your local image is intriguing too -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Submissions to Larry's Scavenger Hunt
Thanks, Matthew! To be totally honest, I was about half-tanked when I took that shot. I was leaving the BBQ joint with a friend after a few beers and thought, Oh, wow! That's kind of cool! It took me several tries to maintain a steady-enough hand shooting with a low shutter speed to catch the smoke the way I wanted it, but it finally worked out. -- Walt On 4/6/2011 10:32 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626423183364/ I particularly like Eye and Local. The Local image made me think for a moment that it was an aurora. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Submissions to Larry's Scavenger Hunt
On 4/6/2011 4:21 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The bird is great. I hope Godfrey feels honored by all the emulation. Thanks, Steven. The Godfrey emulation came about almost by accident, while I was in Arkansas shooting with Ted Beilby. I saw the object and asked him what he thought about shooting it. He said Godfrey would know what to do with it. And that's what inspired it. Whether he's honored or embarrassed . . . -- Walt On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Matthew Huntm...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626423183364/ I particularly like Eye and Local. The Local image made me think for a moment that it was an aurora. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Orphaned Baby Great Horned Owl
Oh, wow! That is a wonderful shot! The talons on that little guy already look powerful enough to do some serious damage. Beautifully captured. -- Walt On 4/6/2011 8:08 PM, Liz Masoner wrote: It's not a cormorant but I was happy to get a chance to photograph a baby great horned owl at the local wildlife center today. He'll be with the center until about August when he's old enough to fend for himself. http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/i-love-the-shot/ ~Liz http://lizmasoner.wordpress.com/ http://thornsnclaws.wordpress.com/ http://photography.about.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
Thanks to everyone for the kind words on this photo, and to Ann for her input and editing help! I'll call it a keeper. -- Walt On 4/6/2011 4:17 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. Ha! Wonderful photo is only enhanced by the title. Great stuff! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
Thanks, Christine -- and all else who looked and commented. I went ahead and loosened up that crop for composition and I think you all were right. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5592638186/ Thanks again for the input! -- Walt On 4/4/2011 10:59 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Pretty colors, great detail, and nice bokeh, Walt. Very nice! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 9:29 PM Subject: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes Hi all, Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!
How utterly great! Congratulations, Walt! -- Walt On 4/5/2011 8:26 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Photography/Micro-Four-Thirds-Gallery/16211247_u3uwa#1240778972_X2KTU-L-LB Let the fun begin!! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
Hi Ann! Thanks for the kind words. Somehow, I had it uploaded with all rights reserved and it won't let you download it that way. But, I went in and changed the rights on it to Share Alike, so you should be able to grab it and have your way with it now. :-) I thought about cloning out those white spots, but since they're actually raindrops, I thought maybe it was best to leave them in. Though, admittedly, they do just look like spots rather than raindrops, so maybe you do have the right idea. Thanks again! I liked the photo myself and managed to grab a few shots while he was perched on that railing, but this one was the only one that really seemed to have a moment, since I caught him mid-stride. -- Walt On 4/5/2011 12:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: actually _ I couldnt grab it -- so one good thing.. its nicely protected for you :-) I wanted to have had it opened up a little less... to crop below the two dark circles and leave some space on the left but not quite so much and clone out the tiny white specs above the dove's tail in the air ... But that's just nit picking really... bear in mind I only do that with photos I like :-) ann Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks, Christine -- and all else who looked and commented. I went ahead and loosened up that crop for composition and I think you all were right. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5592638186/ Thanks again for the input! -- Walt On 4/4/2011 10:59 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Pretty colors, great detail, and nice bokeh, Walt. Very nice! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 9:29 PM Subject: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes Hi all, Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
On 4/5/2011 1:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: no it still comes up as a teeny tiny... 1 x 1 pixel you are better protected than others! ann Give this one a try: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5592638186_411b9252fd_b_d.jpg That should be the download link for the full-sized uploaded image. -- Walt Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi Ann! Thanks for the kind words. Somehow, I had it uploaded with all rights reserved and it won't let you download it that way. But, I went in and changed the rights on it to Share Alike, so you should be able to grab it and have your way with it now. :-) I thought about cloning out those white spots, but since they're actually raindrops, I thought maybe it was best to leave them in. Though, admittedly, they do just look like spots rather than raindrops, so maybe you do have the right idea. Thanks again! I liked the photo myself and managed to grab a few shots while he was perched on that railing, but this one was the only one that really seemed to have a moment, since I caught him mid-stride. -- Walt On 4/5/2011 12:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: actually _ I couldnt grab it -- so one good thing.. its nicely protected for you :-) I wanted to have had it opened up a little less... to crop below the two dark circles and leave some space on the left but not quite so much and clone out the tiny white specs above the dove's tail in the air ... But that's just nit picking really... bear in mind I only do that with photos I like :-) ann Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks, Christine -- and all else who looked and commented. I went ahead and loosened up that crop for composition and I think you all were right. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5592638186/ Thanks again for the input! -- Walt On 4/4/2011 10:59 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Pretty colors, great detail, and nice bokeh, Walt. Very nice! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 9:29 PM Subject: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes Hi all, Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
On 4/3/2011 10:26 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Oh it's sweet, Walt I Also like your EYE and the Godders take off particularly in the scavenger hunt, if I didn't say so before ann Thanks, Ann! That faux-Godders shot was one I took while I was out shooting with Ted Beilby in NW Arkansas this past fall. I had a great time shooting with him as well. Pentaxians are just good folk. -- Walt Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
On 4/4/2011 3:05 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. -- Walt Nice one, cute and fluffy. There's almost too little space around the little feathered bugger to be comfortable. kris Thanks, Kris! I see what you mean about the lack of space. I was probably a little zealous with the crop, having taken another look at it. I think it could at least use a little extra space on the left-hand side. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was amused to see this ad on facebook
On 4/4/2011 3:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5590158980/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Now THAT's marketing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
Thank you, Steven! That one happened to be one of the more cooperative birds I ever encountered. I managed to catch him on the wing shortly after this shot, but the focus failed me, and he had banked himself into a position where the outline just wasn't very bird-like. -- Walt On 4/4/2011 4:26 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Excellent. It's hard enough to get a bird that sharp, much less in an interesting position. On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
Thank you, Steve. And, yes -- there's considerably more background and raindrops on the rail in the original. I'll re-post the wider crop ASAP -- still working on some other shots from the trip, amazingly enough. -- Walt On 4/4/2011 4:34 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-04-03 20:29 , Walter Gilbert wrote: Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ i love the perky, modernist colors, which go well with the bird's apparent attitude; i too would open up the crop if possible to give a sense that the bird has somewhere to go; especially open it up if there is more of that lovely background and more drips on the rail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Semi-OT: Paint Shop Pro Photo X2
Hi all, So, I recently inherited a copy of this software from my brother who was using it to edit and catalog photos of is granddaughter, but decided he didn't need all the bells and whistles that came along with it and wanted something a little more basic. Given that my old copy of Photoshop 7 predates DNG support and I can't seem to find the plugin that will make it do so, I thought I'd give it a shot. (I don't have the dough to spend on CS or LR, unfortunately, so my options are limited here.) Does anyone have any experience with this software at all? Because, so far, I'm very much less than impressed with it, and not for lack of features. It seems fine in that regard. What is really, really grating on me is the extreme -- and I use that word advisedly -- slowness in cataloging my DNG files in the organizer. It's taking somewhere around four seconds per photo! Picasa doesn't have this problem at all. It zips right through them like a hot knife through butter. Unfortunately, Picasa doesn't have the features that PSP does. Otherwise, I'd just say screw it. Anyone know why it might be taking so long to catalog these photos, and any idea if there's something that can be done to speed up the process? It really is irksome. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A rant perhaps or a warning or both...
Camera bags are for lenses and batteries. Not cameras. The whole time I was out visiting Larry, I don't think my camera ever saw the inside of my backpack. Of course, even then I managed to miss shots. But, still, a lot fewer than I would have otherwise. -- Walt On 4/3/2011 2:26 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Remember always no matter what have your camera ready to go at any given moment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Paint Shop Pro Photo X2
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 4/3/2011 4:30 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:59 -0500, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So, I recently inherited a copy of this software from my brother who was using it to edit and catalog photos of is granddaughter, but decided he didn't need all the bells and whistles that came along with it and wanted something a little more basic. Given that my old copy of Photoshop 7 predates DNG support and I can't seem to find the plugin that will make it do so, I thought I'd give it a shot. (I don't have the dough to spend on CS or LR, unfortunately, so my options are limited here.) Does anyone have any experience with this software at all? Because, so far, I'm very much less than impressed with it, and not for lack of features. It seems fine in that regard. What is really, really grating on me is the extreme -- and I use that word advisedly -- slowness in cataloging my DNG files in the organizer. It's taking somewhere around four seconds per photo! Picasa doesn't have this problem at all. It zips right through them like a hot knife through butter. Unfortunately, Picasa doesn't have the features that PSP does. Otherwise, I'd just say screw it. Anyone know why it might be taking so long to catalog these photos, and any idea if there's something that can be done to speed up the process? It really is irksome. I have no experience with PSP or Picasa (other than using the Picasa web gallery). But lack of experience in a subject has never been a barrier to sounding knowledgeable about it Could it be that Picasa is just cataloguing the jpg previews that are built into DNG files and that PSP is actually processing the raw data? The latter would be heavier on computer resources. Well, Brian -- that's a hell of a lot more knowledgeable a guess than I ever would have come up with, and sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I think I'm going to see if I can find an older version of Lightroom on the cheap, somehow. I just don't like the Paint Shop Pro layout at all -- aside from the fact that it's cumbersome, it just doesn't strike as as intuitive the way the Lightroom tutorial videos I've seen appear to be. (I will say that Picasa is a very useful basic editor for me, though. Especially when it comes to removing sensor noise, blemishes, etc. And as a basic cropping tool, it's the easiest one I've ever tried. Thanks for the input! -- Walt Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: My Submissions to Larry's Scavenger Hunt
Hi all, I figured I'd take the lead of Ann and others this time around, and cull my submissions for the Scavenger Hunt from my existing archive. I'm still extremely busy trying to organize and edit all the photos I took while I was in California, so it seemed to be the wise course this time around. In future iterations, though, I hope to actually get out and take some photos specifically for the assignment. At this point, I just wanted to submit something so that the idea doesn't die from a lack of participation, since I think it's a good one. In any event, some of these have been posted to the list before, but they fit the categories well, so I figured I might as well use them. And here they are: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626423183364/ Come 'n get me, coppers! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - My Scavenges
On 4/3/2011 8:13 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Larry's scavenger hunt was exactly what I needed to get me off my ass and out shooting. I spent an hour or so roaming the neighborhood, and came back with these: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1001899 Great idea, Larry! Rick Great selection, Brian! I was particularly fond of your submissions for Creamy Goodness and your emulation of Godfrey's style. And, like others, it took me a moment to catch on the your Eye shot. Cleverly done! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Larry's Scavenger Hunt assignment - my entries
On 4/3/2011 4:36 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/PDML-Scavenger-hunt/16460181_SXwcL I remembered wrong about one - I though it was EYES not AN EYE - so pick one ann Wonderful shots, Ann! All of them! My favorites would have to be your Local shot and your Stenquistian contribution, both of which made me question whether I ought to own a camera. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - My Scavenges
Oops! Sorry about that Rick (and Brian)! My eyes got a little crossed in the message threading. Anyway, what I said to Brian was intended for Rick. -- Walt On 4/3/2011 8:50 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: On 4/3/2011 8:13 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Larry's scavenger hunt was exactly what I needed to get me off my ass and out shooting. I spent an hour or so roaming the neighborhood, and came back with these: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1001899 Great idea, Larry! Rick Great selection, Brian! I was particularly fond of your submissions for Creamy Goodness and your emulation of Godfrey's style. And, like others, it took me a moment to catch on the your Eye shot. Cleverly done! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Larry's Scavenger Hunt
On 4/3/2011 6:33 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all I agree with Larry that this could be a bit of fun but, if we're going to do it again, a bit more lead time might be appropriate. I didn't have the opportunity to get out for some fresh material so, Like Ann, I've 'hunted' through the archives for these: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Scavenger040411/index.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Excellent shots, Brian (more accurately speaking this time)! My picks: Eyes and Cliche -- both of which are just beautifully rendered. I really like the saturation in your cliche shot, especially. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Submissions to Larry's Scavenger Hunt
On 4/3/2011 8:45 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:36 -0500, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I figured I'd take the lead of Ann and others this time around, and cull my submissions for the Scavenger Hunt from my existing archive. I'm still extremely busy trying to organize and edit all the photos I took while I was in California, so it seemed to be the wise course this time around. In future iterations, though, I hope to actually get out and take some photos specifically for the assignment. At this point, I just wanted to submit something so that the idea doesn't die from a lack of participation, since I think it's a good one. In any event, some of these have been posted to the list before, but they fit the categories well, so I figured I might as well use them. And here they are: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626423183364/ Come 'n get me, coppers! Step out of the car, sir. Face down on the ground, please Excellent contribution, Walt. 'Eye' is a standout - I don't recall seeing it before. And I like 'Local' too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Thanks, Brian. The eye shot was one of several I got from that particularly curious ostrich. The thing ended up pecking the front element on my lens before I finished shooting. I was standing on the seat with my torso out of the moon roof of the car when I took it. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - My Scavenges
On 4/3/2011 9:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:55 -0500, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Oops! Sorry about that Rick (and Brian)! My eyes got a little crossed in the message threading. Anyway, what I said to Brian was intended for Rick. That's OK. I'm quite comfortable in accepting undeserved praise Me too. In fact, I've been known to bask in it. -- Walt Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- Walt On 4/3/2011 8:50 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: On 4/3/2011 8:13 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Larry's scavenger hunt was exactly what I needed to get me off my ass and out shooting. I spent an hour or so roaming the neighborhood, and came back with these: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1001899 Great idea, Larry! Rick Great selection, Brian! I was particularly fond of your submissions for Creamy Goodness and your emulation of Godfrey's style. And, like others, it took me a moment to catch on the your Eye shot. Cleverly done! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: They call me Scavenger Hunt
On 4/3/2011 9:02 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: OK, here are my submissions for Larry's scavenger hunt. They're also from my back catalog. http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157626423384212/ The photograph of our dock in fog always reminded me of Christine's 2009 PDML Annual photograph of Chicago Fog. Great selection, Matthew. I thought of the exact same thing when I saw the fog shot, which was before I read the text of your post. That's a great shot, similarities notwithstanding. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: scavenger hunt my entries
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 4/3/2011 7:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I considered pulling my photo of a week ago of the cream of potato soup, but this collection has, to me, the aesthetic benefit that all of the shots were taken within an hour and thirty three minutes. On Apr 2, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: An eye. Creamy goodness. Something local. Cliche Emulate the style of someone else on PDML. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626422823888/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5584784918/ I owe this one entirely to the challenge. I simply would not have seen the shot had I not been looking for an eye: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5587263146/ If you aren't already familiar with the clampers, they are definitely worth learning a bit about. In short they can't decide whether they're a historical drinking society, or a drinking historical society. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Clampus_Vitus http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5587266368/ According to lightroom this has 4.00 EV of exposure correction, plus 23 of fill applied to it. I3 my K-5. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Love that last shot, Larry! I can see why you love that K-5, too! I didn't have quite the same good fortune pulling some of the shots from my K-x. There was one shot at Murphy's Law that broke my heart when I couldn't get it to come out the way I wanted it. I still have the raw file and will make it a long-term project. But, for now, it's just going to have to languish in obscurity. This was a great idea, by the way. I hope there'll be more in the future. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Paint Shop Pro Photo X2
On 4/3/2011 5:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, So, I recently inherited a copy of this software from my brother who was using it to edit and catalog photos of is granddaughter, but decided he didn't need all the bells and whistles that came along with it and wanted something a little more basic. Given that my old copy of Photoshop 7 predates DNG support and I can't seem to find the plugin that will make it do so, I thought I'd give it a shot. (I don't have the dough to spend on CS or LR, unfortunately, so my options are limited here.) Walt, I'm pretty sure that Bibble has a demo version. Give that a try. Less expensive than lightroom, and they have a few features I miss in lightroom, like being able to sort by things like ISO. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I'll definitely look into Bibble. I have The GIMP and have been tooling around with it. But, so far, it's completely alien to me, and has a fairly steep learning curve. Thanks for the info. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes
Hi all, Potential cliche hazard ahead! (Yet another damn bird photo.) I just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/ Comments and suggestions welcome. I wear your scorn like silken robes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Submissions to Larry's Scavenger Hunt
On 4/3/2011 9:24 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Those are beautiful, Walt. The sharpness, detail, and use of bokeh in the first one is great. There's a touch of Ralf Radermacher's style in Local, too. (Come to think of it, we haven't heard from Ralf in a while...) Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW Thanks, Rick. Very kind of you to say! I've seen some of Ralf's photos in annuals while visiting Ted Beilby in Arkansas, and while Larry and I stopped at John Francis's place. He's clearly in a different league, but to have a touch of his style attributed to me is flattering to say the least! -- Walt --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: From: Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com Subject: GESO: My Submissions to Larry's Scavenger Hunt To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 9:36 PM Hi all, I figured I'd take the lead of Ann and others this time around, and cull my submissions for the Scavenger Hunt from my existing archive. I'm still extremely busy trying to organize and edit all the photos I took while I was in California, so it seemed to be the wise course this time around. In future iterations, though, I hope to actually get out and take some photos specifically for the assignment. At this point, I just wanted to submit something so that the idea doesn't die from a lack of participation, since I think it's a good one. In any event, some of these have been posted to the list before, but they fit the categories well, so I figured I might as well use them. And here they are: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626423183364/ Come 'n get me, coppers! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Paint Shop Pro Photo X2
On 4/3/2011 11:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:39 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: But having a steep learning curve would actually be a good thing. What people actually mean, when they say this, is that the program in question has a high bar to get over before you can use it proficiently. With a steep learning curve, you'd leasrn enough to get over that bar in a short span of time. With a shallow learning curve, though, you would have to spend far more time before you became proficient. That, in my opinion, would be a far less desirable situation. Hmm. The metaphor of 'a steep learning curve' is to say that something with this characteristic takes a lot of effort to learn ... there's a lot to learn in a relatively short space of time to achieve a proficient skill. Kind of like climbing a steep hill .. it takes a lot more effort in unit time to achieve the top of the hill if the hill is steep. . With an easy or gradual learning curve, one doesn't have to work as hard to become skilled ... the distance may or may not be as high, but the slope is longer so it's easier to move along it. Come to think of it, it was probably a poor choice of metaphor to begin with, inasmuch as I don't really have any time constraints to deal with. To the extent that there is a steep learning curve, it's more a function of my ability to get a grasp on the application before getting frustrated and putting it off for another time. So, instead of using the learning curve analogy, I probably just should have said, Me no grok The GIMP. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO (still) hot for teacher
Great shot, Larry! You should have made an entire series of this. I assume you did, but are just being stingy. -- Walt On 4/2/2011 6:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm doing an exchange of photo sessions for private dance lessons. This is one of those situations that for me falls into the big win category. After we were done with the photos of her business, she wanted some photos of her wearing some shoes to send to the friend who gave her the shoes. We went for a pinup motif: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5581972194/in/set-72157626286236605/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Busted! (Yet another cormorant shot)
Hi all, Just wanted to post this other cormorant shot I grabbed while out with Larry on Tuesday, the 29th. This guy had me dead to rights. The focus isn't tack-sharp, and the lighting is less than optimum. But, given that I was zoomed all the way out to 500mm, shooting hand-held, I can't complain too much. Non Lightbox Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5582414427/ Lightbox link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5582414427/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5582414427/lightbox/ (Still need to get signed up for Flickriver -- sorry!) K-x, Larry's Sigma 50-500 4-5.6, f/6.7, 1/350, ISO 400, Shutter priority Hope y'all enjoy it! Critiques and comments are welcomed, as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: scavenger hunt
Sounds like a fun idea, Larry. I just wish you'd posted it about 30 minutes earlier ... BEFORE I ate that big bowl of cream of potato soup! -- Walt On 4/2/2011 2:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I saw my friend Marco last night at Friday night blues. Godfrey talked him into micro four thirds, but he says that when he sees what the K-5 can do, he wants one. He mentioned that he was in Santa Cruz last Sunday on a photographer scavenger hunt. They were given a list of subjects: something blue, a tree, something with ocean in the name, etc. and had to get a photo of each. Not only did that sound like a lot of fun, but it's something that could be done on the PDML. The only rule is that you have to take the photos yourself. You can explain what they have to do with the scavenger hunt, or let people figure it out on their own. Before it is no longer Monday April 5th anyplace on the planet, post a GESO with your entries. If people have fun, then someone else can set up their own scavenger hunt. An eye. Creamy goodness. Something local. Cliche Emulate the style of someone else on PDML. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: scavenger hunt
On 4/2/2011 3:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 2, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Sounds like a fun idea, Larry. I just wish you'd posted it about 30 minutes earlier ... BEFORE I ate that big bowl of cream of potato soup! You spent three days with me and didn't figure out how devious and evil I am? I figure three days barely scratches the surface. -- Walt -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Kick Start
You, Mr. Stenquist, are a loathsome individual. With all due respect, of course. -- Walt On 4/2/2011 4:15 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12900617size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Busted! (Yet another cormorant shot)
On 4/2/2011 3:24 PM, Bob W wrote: Beautiful bird, lovely plumage! Ha! This one doesn't appear to be pinin' for the fjord, though. -- Walt -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walter Gilbert Sent: 02 April 2011 20:32 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Busted! (Yet another cormorant shot) Hi all, Just wanted to post this other cormorant shot I grabbed while out with Larry on Tuesday, the 29th. This guy had me dead to rights. The focus isn't tack-sharp, and the lighting is less than optimum. But, given that I was zoomed all the way out to 500mm, shooting hand-held, I can't complain too much. Non Lightbox Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5582414427/ Lightbox link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5582414427/#/photos/walt_gilb ert/5582414427/lightbox/ (Still need to get signed up for Flickriver -- sorry!) K-x, Larry's Sigma 50-500 4-5.6, f/6.7, 1/350, ISO 400, Shutter priority Hope y'all enjoy it! Critiques and comments are welcomed, as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PES0 (s) Outdoor still life with concrete turtle.
On 4/2/2011 6:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: For some reason this scene just amused me, but just because I was amused doesn't make it good. So for your viewing pleasure, and I use that phrase loosely, I prepared the image three different ways, 1. More or less straight, a bit of processing to open up the dynamic range and increase contrast, with just a bit of sharpening. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20outdoorstilllifewithconcreteturtle.html I like this one best -- but, I am sort of partial to BW in general. At least when done by others. 2. Starting from there I did a BW rendering with BW Plus using the Green filter. (since the turtle was green I think maybe I should have gone with yellow...) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20outdoorstilllifewithconcreteturtlebw.html Of the color shots, I like this one. 3 finally I decided to see what the free K25 action thought it would look like if I'd shot it with Kodachrome 25. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20outdoorstilllifewithconcreteturtlek25.html If that's supposed to be Kodachrome, I think I'm glad it was phased out before I got my K1000! Hum, it seems to think that I would have blown the highlights, and even the greens are a bit garish. Does this look like a Kodachrome rendering to you? Well I guess you get what you pay for. Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Series 1 Vivitar 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (third version) As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Chapeau
Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On 4/1/2011 1:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Nice shot of a lovely subject. Was that your hostess? Thanks, Larry! That's actually my hostess's personal assistant, Robyn. And, yes -- she was quite fetching that night. Did you happen to notice the ISO on that shot? Gawd, I love my K-x, and can't imagine what a K-r or K-5 would've done in the same conditions. -- Walt Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On 4/1/2011 4:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Isn't that part of the job of a personal assistant? To fetch things? If it is, she deserves a raise! Did you happen to notice the ISO on that shot? Gawd, I love my K-x, and can't imagine what a K-r or K-5 would've done in the same conditions. I hadn't noticed, but ISO 3200 is noticeably, but not dramatically better on the K-r and K-5. To me, noticeable is dramatic! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On 4/1/2011 7:43 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Nice capture.. a bit dark on my monitor but not by much I also went and looked at your visit to Larry stuff... and liked this a lot on the second time around... also toe cormy and the gaudy flower... but this faux pre-columbian mask was nice to see http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ IMGP1566 ann Thanks, Ann! Most of these shots could be improved quite a bit. I shot in RAW + JPG, and these are all taken from the JPGs, because I just felt the need to get something posted quickly given the number of shots I had to go through. I still have many more to go! -- Walt Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
Thanks, Brian! I'll give your suggestion a try, though I have to admit I'm still very much a neophyte when it comes to photo editing. The best I can usually do is some auto-leveling, maybe bumping contrast, and some noise reduction -- and, of course, cropping. I have a really tough time editing sections of images without butchering the whole affair. :-\ Thanks for the input, and for having a look. -- Walt On 4/1/2011 8:19 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:17 -0500, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. An unusual portrait but well done. The off-centre composition works well and generally I like the tonal range. My only suggestion might be to lighten the table drapes on the left so that the dress is separated from them slightly. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
On 3/31/2011 1:17 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ Comments, suggestions, and typewritten punches in the face are, of course, welcomed. I guess nobody explained simple etiquette to you. It's not polite to get better photos than your host. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Ha! Larry, you've already been more than generous. I'm beginning to question your purported selfish bastard status. But thanks for the kind words, all the same. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
Excellent resource, Boris! I'll have to make use of that in the future. And I completely agree with you about California. If I ever get a chance to get back there, you can bet I'll take it. It's a truly beautiful place! -- Walt On 3/31/2011 1:34 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 3/31/2011 6:47 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ Alternatively here is the flickriver link for your convenience: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ I visited California twice: in 1994 and in 2001. I should like to pay this wonderful place at least one more visit. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
On 3/31/2011 2:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 30, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Larry, you've already been more than generous. I'm beginning to question your purported selfish bastard status. You don't realize how evil I was. I let you use both the Bigma, and my 77/1.8. This trip is going to end up costing you lots of money. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Ha! You're a devious man, Larry. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
On 3/31/2011 2:48 AM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:47:49PM -0500, Walter Gilbert wrote: Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ you've got saome nice shots there. One little nitpick - the Sigma is a 50-500/f4-f6.3, not f2.8 Thanks, John! Larry pointed that out to me about the Sigma. I had it confused with his Tamron 300. It's a heavy chunk of glass in any event. Not an easy one to pan with, to be sure. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
On 3/31/2011 5:34 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:48 AM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:47:49PM -0500, Walter Gilbert wrote: Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ you've got saome nice shots there. One little nitpick - the Sigma is a 50-500/f4-f6.3, not f2.8 Some fun pics. Good cormorant capture. Thanks for sharing. Paul Thanks, Paul! I certainly had a lot of fun taking them. I currently chalk it up as one of the better experiences of my life. :-) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
On 3/31/2011 7:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Very well done set, Walter! Your obviously sincere expression of gratitude to Larry speaks well of you both. Enjoyed sharing your experience. Jack Thank you, Jack! I've yet to even really look at the majority of photos I took while I was out there. It's going to be a days-long proposition, but one I look forward to! -- Walt --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: From: Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com Subject: GESO: Last Day with Larry To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 9:47 PM Hi all, Well, I've spent the entire day going through photos from my trip to the Golden State, where the esteemed Larry Colen was kind enough to put up with me for three days. I had an absolutely great time while I was there, and the opportunity was a bit of a dream come true for me. I can easily see how people might get used to living there, and can't imagine how anyone there could ever want for inspiration. Here's a selection of images from my final day out shooting with Larry, with an obligatory cormorant shot (my first!). I have many more I'm sure you're dying to see. The descriptions are the same as the ones I put in my Facebook captions, so you can read them if you want, or just completely disregard them. They're more or less geared toward non-photographers, anyway. Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ Many thanks to Larry for all he did to make my stay in California fun, interesting and fascinating. I also had the great pleasure of meeting and shooting with John Francis, who is an utter gentleman and overall great guy to be around. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for making my stay in your beautiful state an unqualified joy. Comments, suggestions, and typewritten punches in the face are, of course, welcomed. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
On 3/31/2011 8:01 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Very nice. They have a high contrast look which I happen to like. What kind of light were you in? Thanks, Steven! The majority of the day was spent under clear blue skies, although for a good part of it, we were in a shady wooded area, where the sun filtered through beautifully and really caused the greens to pop. The rest of the week I was there was pretty cloudy and rainy, though. I should have some decent moody-looking shots in the overall bunch I took. -- Walt On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Very well done set, Walter! Your obviously sincere expression of gratitude to Larry speaks well of you both. Enjoyed sharing your experience. Jack --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: From: Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com Subject: GESO: Last Day with Larry To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 9:47 PM Hi all, Well, I've spent the entire day going through photos from my trip to the Golden State, where the esteemed Larry Colen was kind enough to put up with me for three days. I had an absolutely great time while I was there, and the opportunity was a bit of a dream come true for me. I can easily see how people might get used to living there, and can't imagine how anyone there could ever want for inspiration. Here's a selection of images from my final day out shooting with Larry, with an obligatory cormorant shot (my first!). I have many more I'm sure you're dying to see. The descriptions are the same as the ones I put in my Facebook captions, so you can read them if you want, or just completely disregard them. They're more or less geared toward non-photographers, anyway. Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ Many thanks to Larry for all he did to make my stay in California fun, interesting and fascinating. I also had the great pleasure of meeting and shooting with John Francis, who is an utter gentleman and overall great guy to be around. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for making my stay in your beautiful state an unqualified joy. Comments, suggestions, and typewritten punches in the face are, of course, welcomed. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Last Day with Larry
On 3/31/2011 9:07 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ Nice Dave Thanks, Dave! -- Walt Many thanks to Larry for all he did to make my stay in California fun, interesting and fascinating. I also had the great pleasure of meeting and shooting with John Francis, who is an utter gentleman and overall great guy to be around. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for making my stay in your beautiful state an unqualified joy. Comments, suggestions, and typewritten punches in the face are, of course, welcomed. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
On 3/31/2011 12:39 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Tim just gave us some pretty macro flower pics. A lot of people will like them. I enjoy them as well and even really liked a couple. But as someone said a couple of weeks ago, the more seriously he takes his photography the less he shoots. The question is: How do we better our photography and get past cliche images? Can we take it more seriously without falling into either the trap of elitism or the trap of demanding a certain level of commitment from others? (That's the motivation behind my recent technical criticisms. We can do better without burning ourselves out.) I think about the retirement home with little old ladies taking oil paint lessons so that they can do still life paintings of daisies. I wonder how many of us have nothing better in our imagination than warm fuzzies. And I think Tim senses some of this with the sarcasm in his title about beating us to a bloody pulp with these cliche images. In 2D art one can hardly get more cliche than pretty flowers. So the challenge is this: Make a picture say something. Make it say one word That is, other than Ah or Ooo. A real word. High. Long. Fast. Friend. Love. Charity. Cold. Hot. Soft. Hard. Tomorrow. Yesterday. Win. Lose. Amateur. Professional. Try. Succeed. Fail. Return. Leave. Strong. Weak. Majesty. Humility. Service. Nouns, pronouns, adjectives, adverbs -- they all work. This can help you when you take pictures at kids baseball games or at a wedding. Capture more than just the people. Get their faces, their hands, their interactions with each other and the world around them, their full expressions. That's what makes the Ali(Wasn't he still C. Clay at the time) v Liston picture so special. http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-products/muhammad-ali-framed-8x10-photo---ali-over-sonny-liston.html Sorry about the rant, but cliche images bother me deeply. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott Personally, I shoot what catches my eye. If that happens to be a flower, so be it. But, most of the time, it's not the flower itself that catches my attention, but the way the light falls on it. Having only pursued photography relatively seriously as a hobby for a little over a year, I'm still learning a lot about the camera itself, and a great deal more about photography itself. So, in essence, I shoot to learn how to shoot. Sometimes, flowers provide a great opportunity to learn how the camera captures light. Also, there's the fact that I like taking photos that people like to look at. I don't shoot for other photographers, simply because there's really no way to impress them. Every photographer has his own notion of what makes a great photo. I spend precious little time worrying about the technical details of my shots -- and that obviously shows a great percentage of the time. But, when I put the camera to my eye, I have an expectation of what I want my photos to look like when I finish with them, and I gear my shooting toward that end: Shoot, chimp -- nah, do-over. Shoot, chimp -- dammit. Shoot, chimp -- getting closer. Shoot, chimp -- dammit. And, then, there's the fact that I love to photograph just about anything that will catch my eye -- birds, flowers, people, cars, junk, hot babes, dead opossums, you-name-it. If it has something about it that recommends itself to the eye, I think it's worth shooting. As I see it, if you're walking past something that has obvious beauty and decide not to shoot it because, well, someone's going to make fun of you for shooting it, you've given up a little bit of the joy that made you want to be a photographer in the first place. Part of the beauty of the Ali vs. Liston image is the fact that it puts the viewer there at ringside. It captured the climactic moment that makes people want to go to boxing matches. And that was a good part of the rationale behind my shot choices while I was out in California -- to capture what I saw while I was there and to give the people who will look at my photos (the vast majority of whom are non-photographers) a sense of what I saw while I was there. Regrettably or not, a great deal of what I saw was flowers and bugs and the sort of thing that real photographers would consider cliche. I'm comfortable with that, just as I'm comfortable with the notion that people on the list who see what I've posted will say, Well, it looks like Walt yanked out the K-x and ran out to the flower patch again. Pass! In the end, I guess my view is that, even though some images are naturally more compelling than others, there's no reason not to photos that other people will like. There's no crime in making non-photographers smile, even if it does curl the upper lip of your photographic betters. -- Walt --
Re: pesos cormy and friend
I had an absolute blast running around shooting the countryside with Larry, and got more photos than I even know what to do with at this point. I'm working on getting some cleaned up to post for the folks who originally hosted me on the trip at the moment, but I'll be posting some of the shots I took with Larry in the very near future. I just need to take care of a little business first, but once I have a good start on it, I'll get to work on the pleasure photos. Many thanks, Larry! You were a kind, generous, and helpful host throughout! -- Walt On 3/29/2011 4:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Before Walt leaves for Kentucky tomorrow, I brought him down to twin lakes beach / Schwann lagoon to see if we could find any cormorants. Just before dark, I saw an osprey flying with a fish in its talons. Shortly thereafter a cormorant landed in the same tree, not far away. I spent some time shooting from across the lagoon with my 300/2.8 adaptall and its 2x TC. Just as the light was fading, I realized that if I walked around the lagoon I could get a lot closer, and in the fading light, I'd do better with the 300/2.8 from 100 feet below rather than 500 feet away across the lagoon. I wasn't having tremendously good luck, I even tried the pop-up flash on the K-5. Just as I was walking away, I remembered I had my AF540 in my pack. It took a few tries to get it to even fire, but once I did, and bumped up the ISO to 4,000, I got some decent shots. You gonna finish that? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570042123/in/set-72157626252702803/ whatcha lookin at? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570302097/ demon cormorant http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570302411/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570303399/ The flash didn't fire, so I played with with the shot a bit: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570303399/ These and a few more that I've picked out are in this set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626252702803/ I've learned that for birding, especially late in the day, a monopod just isn't enough. I'm gaining more respect for how skill, and equipment, intensive birding is, and will probably stick with something easy, like photographing dancers in dark rooms. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Last Day with Larry
Hi all, Well, I've spent the entire day going through photos from my trip to the Golden State, where the esteemed Larry Colen was kind enough to put up with me for three days. I had an absolutely great time while I was there, and the opportunity was a bit of a dream come true for me. I can easily see how people might get used to living there, and can't imagine how anyone there could ever want for inspiration. Here's a selection of images from my final day out shooting with Larry, with an obligatory cormorant shot (my first!). I have many more I'm sure you're dying to see. The descriptions are the same as the ones I put in my Facebook captions, so you can read them if you want, or just completely disregard them. They're more or less geared toward non-photographers, anyway. Non-lightbox Flickr link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626396755134/ Many thanks to Larry for all he did to make my stay in California fun, interesting and fascinating. I also had the great pleasure of meeting and shooting with John Francis, who is an utter gentleman and overall great guy to be around. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for making my stay in your beautiful state an unqualified joy. Comments, suggestions, and typewritten punches in the face are, of course, welcomed. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Flahrs
Thanks, Don! Kentucky accents strike different ears in different ways, to say the least. And there's a few different ones. In my part of the state (extreme western) some people say it like fliers. I was going to go out today and take another shot at them, but the sun's behind the clouds and I really liked the way they looked when the sun directly hit them. I'm leaving town in the morning for a week, and unfortunately, I doubt they'll be in the best of shape when I get back, though I hope I'm wrong. -- Walt On 3/22/2011 11:26 AM, Don Guthrie wrote: Just the way you say flowers makes them sound pretty. They are not the usual bright and sunny version, but I read your remarks on knocking down the back-round with exposure. A little more post processing and you would be there. Thanks for the intimations of Spring! 2 weeks or more for us I fear. From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Kentucky Easter Flahrs Message-ID: 4d87db26.6060...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, Here's a shot I took today of some Easter flowers (flahrs in Kentuckese) growing along a fence row on the north side of the house. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/ K-x, K 50/1.4, ISO 200, f11, 1/1500 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/lightbox/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO The Scream
Very cool shot, Larry! I've been trying to think of what it reminds me of, and at the risk of outing myself as an old-school Dungeons Dragons geek, I finally figured it out. There's a creature called the Shambling Mound in the Monster Manual: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3183005607_b4626432ba.jpg?v=0 Now, feel free to go about making fun of the DD nerd. -- Walt On 3/22/2011 3:09 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye. I found myself shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I kind of like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/ Comments and suggestions always welcome. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Flahrs
On 3/22/2011 2:27 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Around here, and further south, the flahrs would 'v been shot in de holler. Was it difficult to choose the angle as the row went to the back of the frame? Perhaps a 24mm (anywhere from 20mm to 35mm) might have been useful there. Still, I do wonder which film you were using in your KX. :-) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott I actually didn't have much trouble choosing the angle as there were really no good options. These flahrs are set about 18 off of the privacy fence, and they extend about 20 feet into the distance with highway, a utility pole and a house across the street. To the right is about a half-acre of open lawn and another house. It's all really clunky looking, really. I suppose I could have opened up the aperture more and hoped to get good bokeh, but I'm not quite familiar enough with the lens to get consistent results shooting that way, and I was trying to avoid blowing the highlights of the sun on the flahrs. I really need to work with that 50/1.4 more than I have. I'm in love with it, really, and am working with it as much as I can -- but, it can be unforgiving and discouraging. Still, I keep getting back on the horse because, when I get it right, it's a real thrill. I do have a Sigma 24-70/3.5 UC, but I've been pretty unimpressed with the sharpness I've gotten out of it so far. But, it could be user-error more than lens quality that's the problem. As for the film -- that's a trade secret that I'll sell really cheap if anyone's interested. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO The Scream
On 3/22/2011 5:09 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 02:16:28PM -0500, Walter Gilbert wrote: Very cool shot, Larry! I've been trying to think of what it reminds me of, and at the risk of outing myself as an old-school Dungeons Dragons geek, I finally figured it out. There's a creature called the Shambling Mound in the Monster Manual: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3183005607_b4626432ba.jpg?v=0 Now, feel free to go about making fun of the DD nerd. -- Walt I think I've got you beat there - I've still got my original 1974 DD booklets (the white-boxed three volumes, plus the first four expansions). They're in fairly good shape, because by the time I was gaming regularly we were either using ADD or, more often, a variety of home-grown rule systems loosely based on ADD. The most common variation was one that would be recognised by an average RPG player of today - using mana points, rather than the fire(ball)-and-forget magic system of by-the-book DD/ADD. I've also got a complete set of Dragon magazine up to issue 250 or so (including all 7 issues of the pre-cursor Tactical Studies Rules), and a fair assortment of other gaming accessories from those days. My subscription to Dragon started around issue 60, I believe, but I was able to fill in most of the early gaps in the late '80s by scouring sales I found on this newfangled usenet newsgroups world (including one generous gamer who sold me 30 early issues at face, including half a dozen issues from the first three years; the only issue that really forced me to pay collector prices was issue #1). Yeah, I'd say you have me beat by a pretty good margin, John! I probably played my first round of ADD in 1983, or so. You must be sitting on a small fortune in collector's items. I haven't played since I got out of high school -- before the 2nd edition Player's Handbook came out with the new classes. There were about six or seven guys I played with regularly, and I don't think we ever played a single round by-the-book -- though we had good intentions. And we always had a good time, which was the important thing. Eventually, though, it got to the point where we all had pet characters that we larded up to the point of invincibility, which took the sport out of it. Still, it kept a bunch of small-town kids entertained and out of trouble during summer vacations. And our parents always had a pretty good idea where we could be found after sundown. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO The Scream
On 3/22/2011 6:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Sometimes I'm surprised that there are any second generation Pentaxians. Ha! Well, I can tell you none of them are mine! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Walt's Bay Area Tour
On 3/22/2011 8:48 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Walt has expressed a lot of interest in the New Albion Steampunk exhibition: http://steampunkexhibition.com/ Looks pretty interesting -- seriously -- but I can't figure out what the hell it is. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Eric, steampunk is a kind of throwback homage to early science fiction. It's really hard to describe otherwise, but this wikipedia article gives a fairly decent description of what it's all about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk It's devotees are insanely creative people, though, and from what I've seen, their craftsmanship can be astonishing -- just based on the creations I've seen on the web. I'm itching to see some of their work live and in-person. I think it'll make for some great photo opportunities. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
Aside from the price and low-light performance, the video capability and in-camera HDR on my K-x were two of the biggest selling points for me. In the ten months I've owned her, I've shot approximately 30 seconds of video and exactly one in-camera HDR capture with my K-x. I wonder how many other buyers went in with the same intentions only to discover that they're the least appealing features of the camera. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 10:11 AM, Cory Waters wrote: Hello list, There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. Granted, I don't check the list as often as I used to and I don't read nearly as many of your messages as I once did (I AM still watching you though...Cotty... and Frank... and Doug) but I figured by now video submissions would be a common occurrence around here. Is video a gimmick feature that you just don't use? Are your videos too racy? (let us judge ;) Is making decent videos just too hard? Or are you guys just too much the old dog type or even purists? For my part, having at least six video cameras lying around the house (I'm actually surprised by this number but I'm counting the cell phones and PS cameras + 1 Flip style camera), I find that the same problems that have plagued us since the days of film-based home movies. Just rolling during family events and outings produces lots of crap footage that nobody really wants to edit into a package that anyone besides Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
On 3/21/2011 9:21 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Larry! That reminds me of the old saw about the difference between Baptists and Catholics: Catholics will say hi to you at the liquor store. :-) As a former Catholic (perhaps more appropriately called recovering Catholic - despite about 40 years as a non-believer), I can tell you that joke was not likely conceived by Papists. ;-) cheers, frank Ha! I suspect the Lutherans. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Kentucky Easter Flahrs
Hi all, Here's a shot I took today of some Easter flowers (flahrs in Kentuckese) growing along a fence row on the north side of the house. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/ K-x, K 50/1.4, ISO 200, f11, 1/1500 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/lightbox/ Comments, critiques, and suggestions heartily encouraged. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kentucky Easter Flahrs
On 3/21/2011 6:49 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-03-21 17:11 , Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Here's a shot I took today of some Easter flowers (flahrs in Kentuckese) growing along a fence row on the north side of the house. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/ K-x, K 50/1.4, ISO 200, f11, 1/1500 with the foliage so dark (intentional?) i'm a bit put off -- not how i typically think of daffodils, but then the darkness does by contrast animate the tips of the fronds in an interesting way Thanks, Steve. The darkness of the foliage was semi-intentional. There was some nice sun running across the petals, and an unappealing background, so I stopped the aperture down two stops after metering the light in hopes of obliterating the background and preserving the sunlit parts. When I looked at it, I was pretty pleased with the results, thinking it had a break of dawn look to it. The background is a fairly ugly, dog-eared slat privacy fence -- but not quite in the rustic sense of ugly just yet. I suppose a bit more greenery would give it more of a real spring daffodil look, though. But, getting that would have necessitated the bland, distracting background given my skill level. Thanks for having a look. I'll see if I can finagle a better shot out of them sometime tomorrow. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kentucky Easter Flahrs
Here's hoping for a punctual spring arrival. -- Walt On 3/21/2011 6:38 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Daffodils. Good to see them. Ours are still a week or two away -- depending on the temperatures. The snowdrops started blooming the other day, but most of the buds are still closed, so I haven't attempted to photograph them. I suppose I will. It's become somewhat of an annual event for me. Paul On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Here's a shot I took today of some Easter flowers (flahrs in Kentuckese) growing along a fence row on the north side of the house. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/ K-x, K 50/1.4, ISO 200, f11, 1/1500 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/lightbox/ Comments, critiques, and suggestions heartily encouraged. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickrhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitterhttp://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signaturehttp://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it nowhttp://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Semi-OT: Deal on PNY 16 GB Class 10 SD card
Hi all, Just thought I'd give a quick heads-up to anyone who might be interested in a PNY 16 GB Class 10 SD card for $25.99 + free shipping. Seemed like a pretty good deal to me, and I'm somewhat disgruntled that I can't plunk down the cash for it myself. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178302nm_mc=AFC-C8Junctioncm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-naAID=10440897PID=404255SID=187036 -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Kentucky Easter Flahrs
Thanks, Ann! :-) There are some other flahrs nearby that I'm going to take a crack at tomorrow morning, under better light. I'm don't know what kind they are beyond just being flahrs, but they're pretty. -- Walt On 3/21/2011 8:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Yeah - that's nicely composed... a host of flahrs... :-) ann Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Here's a shot I took today of some Easter flowers (flahrs in Kentuckese) growing along a fence row on the north side of the house. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/ K-x, K 50/1.4, ISO 200, f11, 1/1500 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5547910077/lightbox/ Comments, critiques, and suggestions heartily encouraged. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/19/2011 10:48 PM, William Robb wrote: On 19/03/2011 3:52 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: If it's any consolation, conservative has been the new Nazi for many years now. With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise. That's an utterly ignorant (if unsurprising) statement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also are subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that it's unpleasant enough to remain effective. That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 5:10 AM, Bob W wrote: There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end, and being subjected to the same thing by your enemies while you're kept in solitary confinement with no access to anyone else, not knowing where you are, against your will, time after time for months and years, not knowing when it will be over, but knowing that it's going to happen again and again and again, and listening for the steps in the corridor that tell you they're coming back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 7:37 AM, Bob W wrote: Why is it that whenever someone raises this point, they always fail to recognize that the people who are subjected to waterboarding also are subjected to it in training. They know how it works. It's just that it's unpleasant enough to remain effective. the evidence suggests that it's not effective. But that's not what matters, what matters is the moral issue. Even if it was 100% effective it would still be wrong and we should not do it. Which evidence would you be talking about? There is testimony and evidence that valuable information was extracted from Khalid Sheikh Muhammed, and Abu Zubayda that let to the interruption of terrorist attacks, saving lives. And, if you can waterboard someone -- 10 times or 100 times -- and it saves peoples lives, and the anguish and psychological terror of all the people connected with those lives, directly or indirectly, it's justifiable. That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. that's a damn silly thing to say, the sort of thing you hear in playgrounds. We're supposed to be different from those people. Use of their tactics makes us indistinguishable and means we have lost the fight to defend and promote our values. That operates from the incorrect assumption that waterboarding isn't different from their tactics. It quite clearly is, whether you want to recognize it or not. B -- Walt On 3/20/2011 5:10 AM, Bob W wrote: There's an enormous difference between undergoing something voluntarily for training, carried out by people on your own side, in conditions where you are in control, where you know the outcome and you know when it will end, and being subjected to the same thing by your enemies while you're kept in solitary confinement with no access to anyone else, not knowing where you are, against your will, time after time for months and years, not knowing when it will be over, but knowing that it's going to happen again and again and again, and listening for the steps in the corridor that tell you they're coming back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 8:34 AM, eckinator wrote: 2011/3/20 Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net: Flying an airplane full of civilians into a building is torture. Beheading a journalist on videotape so his family can see him die is torture. Waterboarding is just damn unpleasant. uncontestedly waterboarding is less evil. but perpetrating something less evil to possibly prevent something more evil makes you just that: less evil. but nonetheless evil. not good. and by a far cry not morally superior. maybe you're a bit farther down on the food chain but still an evildoer. Lesser evils are sometimes necessary evils. The bombing of Dresden springs immediately to mind. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: St. Pat's with Friends
Thanks, David! I really liked the moment I managed to capture, though I wish it had been a wee bit sharper. Still, I thought it was joyful, which always makes for nice, feelgood snapshots. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 8:48 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I likek this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5537530335/in/set-72157626295321826/ Dave On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a few photos I shot while celebrating St. Patrick's Day with a few friends. Everyone had a great time, but not quite as great as the proud grandparents of the little boy in these photos, both of whom are shown enjoying the company of the li'l fella. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626295321826/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Portrait mode, ISO Auto 800 Comments, critiques and suggestions are all appreciated, of course. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
No, Bill. What I'm saying is that anyone who would say such a plainly idiotic thing obviously hasn't got the foggiest notion of what a Nazi is. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 9:15 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/03/2011 6:21 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: With what's going on in Wisconsin, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise. That's an utterly ignorant (if unsurprising) statement. So you are saying you are about as ignorant about what is going on in your own country as what is going on everywhere else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/20/2011 9:17 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/03/2011 6:27 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: That said, I'd gladly submit myself to waterboarding if you'll allow me to deploy any of the tactics typically used by the people being subjected to it in return. Does that include bombing civilians by the USAF? Just wondering. I fail to see the how having a bomb dropped on you is in anyway preferable to having a plane flown into your building, or being on that plane. Still wondering? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/20/2011 9:26 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/03/2011 7:37 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Lesser evils are sometimes necessary evils. The bombing of Dresden springs immediately to mind. Just don't try to hold yourself up as a paragon of civilization and democracy after practising your lesser evils, since every lesser evil brings you closer and closer to being the evil that you like to think you abhor. Duly noted as written by a man who can't distinguish between the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions and running Jews through gas chambers and incinerators. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote: the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the tax breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely icing on the cake. It's at the very least debatable who the corn-fed fascists are here. http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/03/12-death-threat-photos-against-gov.html I want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we've had enough. We feel that you and your republican dictators have to die. This is how it's going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it's a matter of public records. We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, this isn't enough. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message. So we have built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent. This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won't tell you all of them because that's just no fun. Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it's necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We will get rid of (in which I mean kill) the 8 of you. Please understand that this does not include the heroic Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. The 8 includes the 7 senators and the dictator. We feel that it's worth our lives becasue we would be saving the lives of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. Goodbye ASSHOLE http://www.doj.state.wi.us/absolutenm/templates/template_share.aspx?articleid=2448zoneid=1 -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/20/2011 11:41 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 17:35, Walter Gilbert wrote: On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote: the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the tax breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely icing on the cake. It's at the very least debatable who the corn-fed fascists are here. http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/03/12-death-threat-photos-against-gov.html The straw in that man isn't even fit for mattresses. Well, what can I say. All I can do is make my case and pray some fascist bastard doesn't shoot me for it. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 3/20/2011 12:31 PM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 18:48, Walter Gilbert wrote: On 3/20/2011 11:41 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 17:35, Walter Gilbert wrote: On 3/20/2011 10:31 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote: the dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the tax breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely icing on the cake. It's at the very least debatable who the corn-fed fascists are here. http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/03/12-death-threat-photos-against-gov.html The straw in that man isn't even fit for mattresses. Well, what can I say. All I can do is make my case and pray some fascist bastard doesn't shoot me for it. One particular FB wants to use a baseball bat. I'll supply the bat. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
Thanks, Larry! That reminds me of the old saw about the difference between Baptists and Catholics: Catholics will say hi to you at the liquor store. :-) And yes, that would be a great place to try a little layering of bracketed exposures. I was strolling down the sidewalk with friends when I took this one, and didn't want to hold everyone else up, so I just turned on the camera, popped it into landscape and fired. The sky just happened to be a really beautiful shade of blue that day. One of these days, I really do need to get back downtown and shoot some of the older buildings before they get turned to dust in an earthquake -- and it won't take much of one to do it. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 5:45 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:29 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: A shot I took on the way into the bar I went to yesterday for St. Pat's to have a Guinness or two. It's one of the older buildings in town (Paducah, KY), where I really should get around to shooting some of the architecture one of these days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5538227640/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Landscape mode, 1/500, ISO 200, f/11 As always, comments, critiques and suggestions welcome. Of course the Episcopal church is across the street from the bar. I hear that they're a very social sect, any time you get four of them together, you're bound to find a fifth. Oh, it's a nice photo too. Though with those dark shadows in contrast with the sunlit side it is one of those cases where I would just autobracket my raw exposures, just in case I ever get around to doing HDR. I don't go for that wild tone mapping HDR style, but there are times it would be nice to be able to pull more detail out of the highlights and shadows if the shot turns out to be a keeper. It occurs to me that with the K-5, it has so much more dynamic range at low ISO, I should increase my bracketing range, at least at low ISO. Lovely old church, well captured. Love the deep blue sky! I agree. The sky, and sunlit bricks are metered perfectly. What's Landscape mode do? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Walt's bay area trip April 27-28
That Pirate Radio dance party sounds like a blast! As does everything else -- especially the looking for trouble part. I'm down for anything interesting. I'm not much of a dancer, though. But, I'm a pretty fair spectator. -- Walt On 3/20/2011 9:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: We haven't solidified the plans yet, but I'll be meeting Walt someplace between here and San Ramon next Sunday afternoon. The Fremont Fry's might be entertaining if he's never been to one. We're planning on going out shooting that afternoon, maybe swing by the steampunk convention, maybe a hike in the redwoods or by the beach in the rain. The weather is supposed to dry out a bit on Monday, and we'll do more of the sight seeing, photography, looking for trouble. He flies out Tuesday morning, so we'll be crawling out of bed pretty early, grabbing brekkies and heading to SJC without much time for photography before hand. If you want to be kept in the loop for planning, or schedule notification for any of this, let me know. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/19/2011 1:43 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-03-18 20:28 , Paul Stenquist wrote: He's Obama's prisoner. Are you trying to say that our liberal democrat president is torturing a U.S. citizen? Obama sucks there, i said it Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at,, PayPal
On 3/19/2011 8:22 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Scott Loveless On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:21 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: American = Wikileaks bad. Rest of world = Wikileaks good. And frankly, I don't think Wikileaks has hurt any innocent people. Don't lump us all in together. What with security theater at airports, warrantless wire taps and the government's constant droning of if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear, it's freakin' obvious that a big chunk of the US gov't doesn't trust a big chunk of the US. The only people harmed by wikileaks are the two-faced bastards in DC. If they hadn't done anything wrong, they wouldn't have anything to hide... Hasn't really done that much harm to the two-faced bastards in DC, other than creating a small amount of embarrassment over certain earthy and entirely accurate assessments of foreign government personalities made by our own ambassadors. The innocents put in harms way are those local people in other countries who cooperated with the US to improve their own situations in their own countries - the village headmen in Afghanistan who mediated between their own people and NATO troops; the mid-level Taliban members who were open to finding a negotiated end to the current war, etc. Like I said, just because Assange and Wikileaks are trying to stick it to the U.S. Government doesn't make them good guys. The whole Wikileaks phenomenon is just about as irony-soaked as it gets. At this point, there's absolutely nothing about the entire project that anyone can point to as a redeeming value. Its titular leader is almost universally scorned by people on either side of the issue, and the cause it purportedly seeks to advance has been set back irreparably for generations. Does anyone honestly believe that what has occurred will cause any of its targeted entities -- governmental, quasi-governmental, or non-governmental -- to operate in a more open fashion as a result of any of these leaks? I'd submit that it's had the exact opposite effect, causing every entity that's been targeted to review its security procedures and make draconian adjustments, along with causing every potentially impacted entity get out in front of the possibility of similar leaks. And, so far, the only marginal benefit that's occurred as a consequence of any of the leaks has amounted to little more than a confirmation of long-held suspicions among people on both sides. The only real shock experienced by anyone over the information that's been uncovered is over the fact that none of it had come to light long ago. And then there was the supreme irony of Assange petitioning the courts to keep secret the address listed in his bond information -- something that has always been a matter of public record. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338832/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-asked-judge-bail-address-secret.html The world has been taken for a ride by the Don King of international intrigue. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
Glad to hear y'all are making steady (if slow in some areas) progress. I do love Nashville, having had some of the best times of my youth down there. I guess at this point, you just have to take solace in the fact that you witnessed history firsthand, and that it probably won't happen again in your lifetime. -- Walt On 3/19/2011 9:42 AM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Walt, Well for the most part it has come along pretty good. Just across the way though the houses that were along Richland Creek are waiting to be bought and I am guessing torn down. It really was surreal watching the news and seeing the stretch of I-24 around Bell Rd. exit completely under water. I drive back and forth that direction when I head to work in Antioch. I drove to work that Monday morning and it was surreal again seeing all that debris and what not that the flood waters carried along. A car sat upside down on the banks of the creek for a long time until water subsided long enough I suppose for them to get a tow truck to be able to move the car. Jeffery -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walter Gilbert Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar) Thanks, Jeffery. And, yes -- Nashville is pretty close-by. Only about an hour and half drive, give or take. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I'll be flying out of there next week. Last time I went, I was sitting in an executive skybox watching the Titans with a good friend. I'm curious to see how far the city has come along since the flood. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT finally a chance to get even with those f***ers at, PayPal
On 3/19/2011 4:14 PM, eckinator wrote: liberal seems to be the new communist. mccarthy rears his ugly head if you ask me... If it's any consolation, conservative has been the new Nazi for many years now. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Thirty Five years ago.
Living in naval housing in Virginia Beach, setting fire to the shrubs while playing with matches, painting picnic tables bright purple with some discarded paint I'd stumbled upon, and generally causing about as much trouble as a seven-year-old can cause. -- Walt On 3/18/2011 8:26 AM, David J Brooks wrote: What were you doing 35 years ago about this time.?? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: St. Pat's with Friends
Hi all, Just wanted to share a few photos I shot while celebrating St. Patrick's Day with a few friends. Everyone had a great time, but not quite as great as the proud grandparents of the little boy in these photos, both of whom are shown enjoying the company of the li'l fella. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626295321826/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Portrait mode, ISO Auto 800 Comments, critiques and suggestions are all appreciated, of course. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
A shot I took on the way into the bar I went to yesterday for St. Pat's to have a Guinness or two. It's one of the older buildings in town (Paducah, KY), where I really should get around to shooting some of the architecture one of these days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5538227640/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Landscape mode, 1/500, ISO 200, f/11 As always, comments, critiques and suggestions welcome. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: St. Pat's with Friends
On 3/18/2011 3:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a few photos I shot while celebrating St. Patrick's Day with a few friends. Everyone had a great time, but not quite as great as the proud grandparents of the little boy in these photos, both of whom are shown enjoying the company of the li'l fella. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626295321826/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Portrait mode, ISO Auto 800 Comments, critiques and suggestions are all appreciated, of course. Some lovely portraits there. This one's my fave: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5537529705/in/set-72157626295321826/ Here I was thinking I'd be looking at a bunch of drunk, Guinness-swilling, green fake-top-hat wearing fools. How wrong I was! ;-) cheers, frank Many thanks, Frank! It was hard for me to pick a favorite, but I really do like the one you picked a lot. His eyes really seemed to pop in that one. And there's not much in the world that's more beautiful than babies' eyes. And, just for the record, I'd never subject my Pentax friends to the sort of thing I subject my Facebook friends to. One must maintain clear lines of delineation. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: St. Pat's with Friends
Thank you, Bulent! I don't have any children of my own, but the people around me who do should never want for photos of their babies. I love taking photos of them -- though I wouldn't want to be a studio-type baby photographer. I want to still like babies when I put the camera away. :-) -- Walt On 3/18/2011 3:36 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: Walt, Loved them all! I wish I had more photos of my children :( Bulent - http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: St. Pat's with Friends
On 3/18/2011 3:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a few photos I shot while celebrating St. Patrick's Day with a few friends. Everyone had a great time, but not quite as great as the proud grandparents of the little boy in these photos, both of whom are shown enjoying the company of the li'l fella. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626295321826/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Portrait mode, ISO Auto 800 Comments, critiques and suggestions are all appreciated, of course. Some lovely portraits there. This one's my fave: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5537529705/in/set-72157626295321826/ Here I was thinking I'd be looking at a bunch of drunk, Guinness-swilling, green fake-top-hat wearing fools. How wrong I was! ;-) cheers, frank To tell the truth, I didn't look at them earlier for the same reason , Frank! sweet photos, Walt ! ann Thank you, Ann! I guess I probably did choose poorly in titling my post, in retrospect. Thanks for having a look in spite of my ineptitude. :-) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
Thanks again, Frank! There are some lovely old buildings in the downtown area. One of the more beautiful ones is an old bank building that now houses a law firm. It's a stately, dignified old structure with granite columns where my granddad once ran a concessions stand in the lobby. Unfortunately, it's kind of tough to get a good shot of it because of where it's situated, and the newer buildings that have gone up next to it since I was a kid. I'll have to get out there one night and see if I can do some creative composition, though. -- Walt On 3/18/2011 3:29 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: A shot I took on the way into the bar I went to yesterday for St. Pat's to have a Guinness or two. It's one of the older buildings in town (Paducah, KY), where I really should get around to shooting some of the architecture one of these days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5538227640/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Landscape mode, 1/500, ISO 200, f/11 As always, comments, critiques and suggestions welcome. Lovely old church, well captured. Love the deep blue sky! What's Landscape mode do? cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
Oh! I forgot about Landscape mode! As best I can tell, it stops down the aperture for more depth of field and sensitivity for longer exposure. But that's purely conjecture on my part based on the EXIF data. -- Walt On 3/18/2011 3:29 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: A shot I took on the way into the bar I went to yesterday for St. Pat's to have a Guinness or two. It's one of the older buildings in town (Paducah, KY), where I really should get around to shooting some of the architecture one of these days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5538227640/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Landscape mode, 1/500, ISO 200, f/11 As always, comments, critiques and suggestions welcome. Lovely old church, well captured. Love the deep blue sky! What's Landscape mode do? cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I See The Train Acommin Down The Track
Great shot, Don! I wish I lived closer to an operating railroad. I think I'd enjoy capturing trains, myself! -- Walt On 3/18/2011 3:51 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: I finally got an angle I liked on the local CN locomotive. Comments from train picture haters or lovers always welcome. http://donspix.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
It was a pretty appropriate setting for the day. And the Van Morrison playing over the sound system on the patio outside the bar really tied it all together nicely. -- Walt On 3/18/2011 7:15 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: You know, the bar, the church, and the Guinness would not quite fit tougher if the Irish weren't involved. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: A shot I took on the way into the bar I went to yesterday for St. Pat's to have a Guinness or two. It's one of the older buildings in town (Paducah, KY), where I really should get around to shooting some of the architecture one of these days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5538227640/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Landscape mode, 1/500, ISO 200, f/11 As always, comments, critiques and suggestions welcome. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar)
Thanks, Jeffery. And, yes -- Nashville is pretty close-by. Only about an hour and half drive, give or take. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I'll be flying out of there next week. Last time I went, I was sitting in an executive skybox watching the Titans with a good friend. I'm curious to see how far the city has come along since the flood. -- Walt On 3/18/2011 8:33 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Nice capture there Walt and you aren't too far per say from Nashville. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walter Gilbert Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Episcopal Church (across the street from the bar) A shot I took on the way into the bar I went to yesterday for St. Pat's to have a Guinness or two. It's one of the older buildings in town (Paducah, KY), where I really should get around to shooting some of the architecture one of these days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5538227640/ K-x, DA L 18-55, Landscape mode, 1/500, ISO 200, f/11 As always, comments, critiques and suggestions welcome. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Black Cat on Frozen Lake
I have to say, I really love this shot! -- Walt On 3/17/2011 2:19 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote: From a recent trip to easternmost Turkey. http://500px.com/photo/437321 Bulent - http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Win XP (SP3)graphics card issue
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 3/15/2011 1:30 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 15/03/2011 06:44, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, I've encountered a problem that I was hoping some of the more technologically experience among the group might be able to help me with. I'm in the process of trying to Frankenstein another couple of years out of my already ancient PC by upgrading the video card. I've already managed to max out the memory to 3GB and have added a 500 GB hard drive. Now, I just need to upgrade the video from the pathetic GeForce-2 32MB AGP card to the ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB AGP card I recently picked up from eBay. Everything I've been able to unearth says that the card ought to be compatible with my mother board, which Gigabyte nForce3 250 MCP AGP 8x. I have a 400-watt power supply, so I'm fairly certain I'm getting enough power to run the thing. Problem is, when I seat it into the AGP slot and connect it the VGA, the thing simply will not boot and there is no signal going to the monitor whatsoever, though there is power going to the card and the fan is clearly operating. I tried disabling the current drivers for the old card before installing it -- same result. I tried installing the legacy drivers for the Radeon beforehand, as well -- which somehow managed to disable my USB wireless adapter until I ran a system restore. I've gone into the BIOS to see if there are any settings I might be able to change -- voltage, manually enabling AGP 8x, etc., but have been unable to find anything that would seem to be the problem. Any ideas what may be my problem (aside from the fact that I'm using a PC with Win XP, which there's not much I can do about at the moment? Thanks! Walt Bet it's your power supply. Try to find an online power calculator to see what your configuration needs. (ASUS has one but it may only cover their products) Then assume that your 400W supply is about 60% efficient (which is possibly generous) and see what the shortfall is. Then you can work out how much nominal power you need. Add about 20% for luck. Frankenputers are good but you need to start at the back end. Then you can go on virtually (ha!) permanently. Thank, Mike. That's what I was afraid of. I am running a few peripherals off that power supply, so I'm probably not getting the best output to the card, now that you mention it. I really can't complain about this old thing. I plunked down a little over $400 to have it built six years ago, and it's treated me a lot better than I've treated it. Still zips along pretty well for the most part, though I finally had to do something in order to deal with RAW and TIF files, which I'm just going to have to do if I'm ever going to get the most out of my camera. Whelp! Off to the power supply store . . . -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Win XP (SP3)graphics card issue
Thanks, Matthew! That's exactly what I needed. Looks like I'll need at least 500 watts. I sort of figured the OS wouldn't be the issue, since I thought at the very least the basic driver set would load even if the card wasn't compatible. But, I've been asking and looking around, and I kept encountering You have to uninstall your old drivers. So, I thought maybe there was just something I didn't understand about how video works. My first suspicion was voltage levels, but it just seemed to me that an AGP 8x-compatible mobo would have the proper voltage settings for an 8x card. I wouldn't think there'd be any variation there, given that everything started going to PCI-E right about the time it came into being. Still looking to see what kind of prices I can come up with on power supplies. I have a couple of geek-squad type buddies (one of whom built this system for me) to check in with and see if they may have a good deal. Thanks again for the link! -- Walt On 3/15/2011 6:15 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:30 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Bet it's your power supply. Try to find an online power calculator to see what your configuration needs. Good idea... here is the one that I use: http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp As it notes, PSU output diminishes as the capacitors age. I would always be suspicious of an elderly power supply. BTW, Walt, if you're not getting any video output (no BIOS messages etc.) then you can safely rule out the operating system (Win XP) and drivers. You're not getting to the point where they would be relevant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Capital Espresso
Great shots again, Frank! Of the bunch, I like mug and five_seated best. The young lady sitting opposite the rest in that one looks like she may have been a real babe ... which helps. -- Walt On 3/15/2011 6:20 AM, frank theriault wrote: My new favourite coffee house, Capital Espresso on Queen West in Parkdale, on a quiet Saturday morning: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/03/capital-espresso.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
