Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Apr 24, 2015, at 21:04 , Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: I managed to find the 'buy full version' immediately, just clicked the download button and saw the link in the lower left of the web page. I couldn't find the upgrade so after a minute I opened a chat with Adobe support - they told me about how to edit my purchase order in another minute or two. For me, buying, downloading, and installing exactly what I wanted was a nearly perfect, seamless experience, including an interaction with Adobe Customer Support when I didn't understand something. I don't know why I have such good experiences where others do not, but I do. Life is puzzling that way. :-) You must like people better than I do. Calling support as part of the upgrade process is not something I would enjoy. I'm very curmudgeonly... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Apr 24, 2015, at 5:37 PM, James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Stanley Halpin wrote on Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:08:15 -0700: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. * I read in one of the news announcements that Adobe will soon release the standalone version, so a little patience is in order. I, for one, plan to wait… It was available from day one of the LR 6 release. Took a few moments to find it, that's all. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Warning about LR6.0
Stanley Halpin wrote on Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:08:15 -0700: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. * I read in one of the news announcements that Adobe will soon release the standalone version, so a little patience is in order. I, for one, plan to wait… Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0 [solution found, issue resolved]
At least I think the issue is resolved. Background on OSX for those not familiar: OS-X offers a “toolbar”, a display of icons representing generally programs or functions. The user chooses what programs/functions are included. Drag-and-drop an application icon/thumbnail onto the toolbar and you now have an active alias hotspot which you can click to start up a program. Drag-and-drop an icon from the toolbar to the desktop and the link is destroyed in a puff of smoke. Last evening I removed the LR5 link from my toolbar. Went to my Applications folder to get the LR6 icon to drag over to the toolbar. My Applications folder is sorted by Name. Much to my surprise, right there above the Adobe Lightroom folder was a folder labled Adobe Creative Cloud. I opened the folder, found an Uninstall Icon. Clicked Uninstall, confirmed that yes I really did want to Uninstall, and my problem seems to be solved. Lightroom 6 no longer acts as though I am in a free-trial period for Lightroom Mobile. Whether the installation of Adobe Creative Cloud was a sneaky nefarious plot by Adobe, or if it was an option I failed to opt out of during LR6 download/installation, or an option I mistakenly opted into during LR6 download/installation, or if it was a glitch on their end I probably will never be sure. But the problem seems to be resolved. stan On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: A couple of things I have learned over the years: Don't be an early adopter. Wait at least a couple of months for others to find the bugs, quirks and weaknesses in new software. Don't install anything from Adobe without first setting up a software firewall like ZoneAlarm to prevent it from phoning home. (Of course this isn't an option with the subscription model but that's not a problem for me.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com I am not usually an early adapter but was intrigued by the HDR and pano features. So far the program seems to work just fine. No glitches, no major changes to adapt to. My only issue is with this added “bonus” of a free trial of Mobile which I somehow got into. I can work around it, but it is an annoyance. stan -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Apr 24, 2015, at 5:37 PM, James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Stanley Halpin wrote on Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:08:15 -0700: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. * I read in one of the news announcements that Adobe will soon release the standalone version, so a little patience is in order. I, for one, plan to wait… It was available from day one of the LR 6 release. Took a few moments to find it, that's all. G Godfrey - my issue was that I did look for the standalone, I did find it, I did pay my $79 and downloaded, installed and am happily using the program. But, in the process, I had an unasked for unwanted copy of Creative Cloud installed on my system, and whenever starting up LR6 the system would busily start trying to synch my 150k images to my 30-day-free-trial of Mobile that I did not ask for and did not want. Eventually I found and uninstalled the Creative Cloud application. I should not need to have to go to such extremes to opt out of paying $120/yr for something that I don’t want, don’t need, and didn’t ask for. No complaints about the program itself, just about the Adobe hegemony and its policies. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
I managed to find the 'buy full version' immediately, just clicked the download button and saw the link in the lower left of the web page. I couldn't find the upgrade so after a minute I opened a chat with Adobe support - they told me about how to edit my purchase order in another minute or two. For me, buying, downloading, and installing exactly what I wanted was a nearly perfect, seamless experience, including an interaction with Adobe Customer Support when I didn't understand something. I don't know why I have such good experiences where others do not, but I do. Life is puzzling that way. :-) Godfrey On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: I never did find it. I spent about 5 minutes trying. My brother saved his DMG file and handed it to me - and then I installed from that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Apr 24, 2015, at 19:48 , Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Apr 24, 2015, at 5:37 PM, James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: I read in one of the news announcements that Adobe will soon release the standalone version, so a little patience is in order. I, for one, plan to wait… It was available from day one of the LR 6 release. Took a few moments to find it, that's all. I never did find it. I spent about 5 minutes trying. My brother saved his DMG file and handed it to me - and then I installed from that. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
Didn't happen to me. I clicked No in the box on startup when it asked me if I wanted to try the CC trial. Of course, the default is Yes ... Because they want people to try it. If you were a marketing person, wouldn't you set it up that way? You have to pay attention with this stuff. Marketing weasels are everywhere :-) Godfrey On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Apr 24, 2015, at 5:37 PM, James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Stanley Halpin wrote on Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:08:15 -0700: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. * I read in one of the news announcements that Adobe will soon release the standalone version, so a little patience is in order. I, for one, plan to wait… It was available from day one of the LR 6 release. Took a few moments to find it, that's all. G Godfrey - my issue was that I did look for the standalone, I did find it, I did pay my $79 and downloaded, installed and am happily using the program. But, in the process, I had an unasked for unwanted copy of Creative Cloud installed on my system, and whenever starting up LR6 the system would busily start trying to synch my 150k images to my 30-day-free-trial of Mobile that I did not ask for and did not want. Eventually I found and uninstalled the Creative Cloud application. I should not need to have to go to such extremes to opt out of paying $120/yr for something that I don’t want, don’t need, and didn’t ask for. No complaints about the program itself, just about the Adobe hegemony and its policies. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. This help page shows the location of the various sync-to-mobile controls in Lightroom: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/lightroom-mobile-desktop-features.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Warning about LR6.0
Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
The cloud makes me laugh, almost no one has the bandwidth available to make the cloud work the way it's proponents claim it will work. When I get a personal T-1 line, then we can talk about cloud computing, and even then it will seem slow. On 4/23/2015 12:05 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. stan -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
Disclaimer: It was after midnight when I installed LR6, but... I seem to remember that when that option to upload all my images to the cloud there was a way to not do it. How I did it remains foggy. ;) -p On 4/23/2015 11:05 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. stan -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Warning about LR6.0
The cloud makes me laugh, almost no one has the bandwidth available to make the cloud work the way it's proponents claim it will work. I think it depends where you are. Over here I have 76mb fibre optic and a very fast wifi and the whole cloud thing works really well. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling Sent: 23 April 2015 17:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Warning about LR6.0 The cloud makes me laugh, almost no one has the bandwidth available to make the cloud work the way it's proponents claim it will work. When I get a personal T-1 line, then we can talk about cloud computing, and even then it will seem slow. On 4/23/2015 12:05 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don't want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. stan -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Warning about LR6.0
Stanley Halpin wrote: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I hope that if I choose to upgrade, they will offer a CD version. Last time I logged into LR it offered what I thought was going to be an upgrade to 5, but it turned out to be a link to getting 6 downloaded. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Warning about LR6.0
before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. We know a song about that, don't we children? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgWUi-ozMAU B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stanley Halpin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
My recollection .. When you first start up LR6, there's an notification on screen that asks if you want to synch to CC. You should turn that to off by clicking the control. Otherwise, it creates a trial account based on your Adobe ID. Turn off the account in your preferences. That's all. Godfrey On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: My recollection .. When you first start up LR6, there's an notification on screen that asks if you want to synch to CC. You should turn that to off by clicking the control. Otherwise, it creates a trial account based on your Adobe ID. Turn off the account in your preferences. That's all. Godfrey Actually, one of the first places I looked was Preferences. Discovered a tab for Mobile. Clicked that tab and found the following options available to me: Join Delete All Data and More Account Info Online and a checkbox for Prevent system sleep during sync I did the Delete all Data and then clicked the More Account Info Online button which took me to the Adobe account login page. I logged in, went through all of the tabs on My Account page, found nothing that showed that I had requested a Mobile trial, no way to disable it. (I did find that I hadn’t recently updated my street address and got that taken care of so this whole experience isn’t all bad!) I hate it when I am forced to opt out of something, which seems to be something I missed during installation. If I can’t turn it off, I can always disable my wifi while using LR for the next 29 days. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
A couple of things I have learned over the years: Don't be an early adopter. Wait at least a couple of months for others to find the bugs, quirks and weaknesses in new software. Don't install anything from Adobe without first setting up a software firewall like ZoneAlarm to prevent it from phoning home. (Of course this isn't an option with the subscription model but that's not a problem for me.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: A couple of things I have learned over the years: Don't be an early adopter. Wait at least a couple of months for others to find the bugs, quirks and weaknesses in new software. Don't install anything from Adobe without first setting up a software firewall like ZoneAlarm to prevent it from phoning home. (Of course this isn't an option with the subscription model but that's not a problem for me.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com I am not usually an early adapter but was intrigued by the HDR and pano features. So far the program seems to work just fine. No glitches, no major changes to adapt to. My only issue is with this added “bonus” of a free trial of Mobile which I somehow got into. I can work around it, but it is an annoyance. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Warning about LR6.0
In many (some?) places, the bandwidth is not a problem. (E.g. in my area Suddenlink has recently upgraded all the plans, with the slowest plan available being 15 Mbps down/ 1.5 Mbps up. This exceeds what T1 offers (1.44/1.44), even for the up direction. And the second level above that (which used to be 8 Mpbs some 6-7 years ago, when I signed up for it) is 50/5. However, the problem is in the traffic monthly cap. With my 50/5, it is only 250 GB per month. And as far as I know, that's the main limiting factor with most ISPs (at least with the major cable-internet provider). Now, speaking of the initial problem in this thread, I wrote about it in a separate thread (my message seems to have been delayed for several hours): http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg715841.html Stan, I suspect it might be related to the problem you experienced. Igor Bob W Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:33:10 -0700 wrote: The cloud makes me laugh, almost no one has the bandwidth available to make the cloud work the way it's proponents claim it will work. I think it depends where you are. Over here I have 76mb fibre optic and a very fast wifi and the whole cloud thing works really well. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling Sent: 23 April 2015 17:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Warning about LR6.0 The cloud makes me laugh, almost no one has the bandwidth available to make the cloud work the way it's proponents claim it will work. When I get a personal T-1 line, then we can talk about cloud computing, and even then it will seem slow. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: In many (some?) places, the bandwidth is not a problem. (E.g. in my area Suddenlink has recently upgraded all the plans, with the slowest plan available being 15 Mbps down/ 1.5 Mbps up. This exceeds what T1 offers (1.44/1.44), even for the up direction. And the second level above that (which used to be 8 Mpbs some 6-7 years ago, when I signed up for it) is 50/5. However, the problem is in the traffic monthly cap. With my 50/5, it is only 250 GB per month. And as far as I know, that's the main limiting factor with most ISPs (at least with the major cable-internet provider). I am not sure what we pay Charter for internet as part of a TV/Internet bundle. Over the last few years they have upgraded the speed a couple of times with no increase in rates. No cap on traffic. Speed as of a speed-test a couple of minutes ago is 26.62/4.38 Mbps Download/Upload speed. Which = 3.33 / .55 MB/sec transfer rate. T2+ IIRC I know I can increase that by moving around a couple of walls and 40-50 feet closer to the wifi box. So bandwidth is not that big an issue for me. Usually, on a good day, when the stars align ... Now, speaking of the initial problem in this thread, I wrote about it in a separate thread (my message seems to have been delayed for several hours): http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg715841.html Stan, I suspect it might be related to the problem you experienced. This may well be the issue. Thanks Igor! stan Igor -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling Sent: 23 April 2015 17:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Warning about LR6.0 The cloud makes me laugh, almost no one has the bandwidth available to make the cloud work the way it's proponents claim it will work. When I get a personal T-1 line, then we can talk about cloud computing, and even then it will seem slow. Bob W Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:33:10 -0700 wrote: I think it depends where you are. Over here I have 76mb fibre optic and a very fast wifi and the whole cloud thing works really well. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning about LR6.0
On 4/23/2015 12:05 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Apparently by upgrading to LR6.0 I was automagically joining the Creative Cloud. I downloaded LR6.0 to my computer. NOT the Cloud version. I do not now nor have I ever had a Cloud account. I don't want a Cloud account, I don't use Photoshop. I might want to explore Mobile if I had the time and if it had different features and if it allowed me to use something other than Adobe as my cloud storage site. But for now, I don’t want it and have not asked for it. But when I open LR6.0, it tries to synch my 150k photos to my Cloud account and displays a little note that I have 29 days left in my free Mobile trial. When I log into my Adobe account, my only option with respect to my magical 30-day free trial to Mobile is to purchase it. I just want it to GO AWAY! Adobe Help Chat and Forums are basically dead due to the volume of people probably with problems like mine. You may want to wait a few months before going to 6.0, give them a chance to add a STOP button that lets you off the Cloud. stan Cue the Rolling Stones! -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
