[PEN-L:6602] Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Alex Izurieta

 Tom Batsis wrote:
 Doug, do you think thatincreased "competitiveness" is responsible
 for declining standards of
  living?

 From:  Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Yes. Of course, when profits start to fall, business takes it out on the
 workers.  That is the underlying mechanism.
 
  I have discussed this matter in The Pathology of the
 U.S. Economy and in The End of Economics.

...
I am really curious about the arguments in your books, Michael! 
(hope we have them  in our library...) The main idea is quite convincing 
and also 'intuitive' (most of my 'intuition' was educated with Marx' 
readings... :-) ) Indeed, it looks like in the Manifest:
 increasing capitalist competition =
declining rates of profits
= squeezing workers' income ..
= leading to revolution.
That all looked quite 'exciting', and we seem to be still sympathetic
with the idea...

However, I am still puzzled: Increasing competition among capitalists 
has taken 'a different track': the internasionalisation of capital, 
the creation of multinational monopolies, the rising of financial 
markets and speculation, leading also to 'concentration over 
concentration', in the form of the huge financial-entrepreneurial 
conglomerates and cartels that we know now, etc... 
That is, in one phrase: increasing competition has led to 
increasing concentration ...
On the other hand, the same process has apparently being 
accompanied by a deterioration of real income of (at least) the lower 
quintiles of population at a world scale (including the North). 
That is, increasing competition has *indeed* led to a deterioration 
of standards of living, but *through a still sharper concentration*.

I would rahter prefer to find some hole in my argument above, than to 
give up to the idea of a 'revolution'. Could you give us a 'hint', 
Michael, at least until we get hold of your books??

Thanks,

Alex

 
 


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[PEN-L:6605] Re: Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Doug Henwood

At 11:33 PM 10/10/96, Alex Izurieta wrote:

That is, increasing competition has *indeed* led to a deterioration
of standards of living, but *through a still sharper concentration*.

How do we know there's been a sharper concentration? Thirty years ago,
there were three major players in the U.S. auto market; now there are what,
5 or 10?

I sat at a conference a few weeks ago and listened to someone denouncing
the increased monopolization of world trade by 40,000 multinational
corporations. 40,000? Even allowing for 100 industrial sectors, we're
talking 400 per. Do a Herfindahl on that one!

Another question - did the textbook world of perfect competition ever
really exist? Or has something like oligpolistic competition been the only
real historically existing kind?

Doug

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[PEN-L:6606] Re: Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Gerald Levy

Doug Henwood wrote:

 How do we know there's been a sharper concentration? Thirty years ago,
 there were three major players in the U.S. auto market; now there are what,
 5 or 10?

Firstly: remember that the large auto corporations are TNCs which produce
and sell autos in many different national markets. Secondly: yes, the
statistics on concentration in the world auto industry will show that it
is increasingly concentrated.

 Another question - did the textbook world of perfect competition ever
 really exist? Or has something like oligpolistic competition been the only
 real historically existing kind?

Perfect competition is a historical fiction -- although, it is certainly
true that markets in general used to be more competitive in the classical
sense at earlier periods of capitalist history.

Jerry




[PEN-L:6607] Re: Is labour getting serious?

1996-10-11 Thread Cassim I. Boorany

Elaine,
The news report - All this sounds like SA in the 70's and 80's.Though it
doesn't 
mean that we are not 
losing jobs, as you will learn for your self when you come.

Additional requests:
- Enoch Godongwana , Numsa  General Secretary , asked if you could get him
a copy 
of David Weals book 
on Trade union management, the one that he developed on the HTUP course.
Also if 
it is possible to get 
Sam Bowles text on Economics ( Sam knows him personally and may be able to
send a 
copy down to you).

- Mary Tiseo ( of Freesa 617 - 2768333) has comix books for our kids. If
possible 
to get this from her 
please bring them along.


Some information. I will be leaving Numsa at the end of this month to take
on a 
job with the new labour 
education and training institute that COSATU and other federations have set
up.
Two of us from the 
affiliate unions have been appointed to set up the institute ( called
DITSELA) 
and define its 
programme. So there is much that I will want to consult you on.

Talk to you later.

Bobby.





[PEN-L:6608] FW: BLS Daily Report

1996-10-11 Thread Richardson_D

BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10, 1996

RELEASED TODAY:  Employer costs for employee compensation in the United
States (private industry and state and local governments) averaged
$18.82 per hour worked in March 1996.  Straight-time wages and salaries
(71.6 percent of the costs) averaged $13.48 an hour, and benefit costs
(the remaining 28.4 percent averaged $5.34 

Wage data compiled by BNA in the first 40 weeks of 1996 show that the
median first-year wage increase in newly negotiated collective
bargaining agreements is 3 percent an hour (Daily Labor Report,
pages 2,D-1).

DUE OUT TOMORROW:  Producer Price Indexes -- September 1996



[PEN-L:6609] Re: why raise the minimum wage (fwd)

1996-10-11 Thread Paul Zarembka

Doug, you are repeating the same mistake you made last December.  If Bill
Gates spends millions of dollars hiring workers to undertake unproductive
labor at his super mansion in Washington, you fail to recognize that
the wages which go to those workers are from revenue of surplus value. 
In your incorrect approach, if all surplus value were used to hire
enormous luxuries for the capitalist class by hiring the appropriate
workers there would be no room for higher wages, whether minimum or not.
In other words, you are looking only at the surface of the national income
accounts, accounts which are constructed to allow dismissal, as
impractical, simple worker class demands like decent wages for all.

The gimmick demoralizes opposition to capitalism and must be opposed as
strongly and as clearly as possible.  And I think most workers would not
see a $20,000 annual income for 40 hours of weekly work as so impossible,
even within capitalism, as you do.

Paul Z.





[PEN-L:6610] McDonalds and Meat

1996-10-11 Thread jtreacy

Treacy: McDonalds had the smallest size meat patty in the industry but 
due to chains such as Rallys putting out a .99 cent burger, 
others such as Wendys cut prices by introducing "value" menu
items. This past summer McD increased the size of their burger 
increasing their costs.  Arby has larded up their fries to taste 
like the ones Doug finds so tastey from McD. You can look at 
franchised fast food as solving an information problem.  How do
you get predicticable mediocare food in strange places?  Under 
the Golden Arches. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] copyrighted

On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Doug Henwood wrote:

 At 8:45 AM 10/10/96, Gerald Levy wrote:
 
 In an oligopolistic market, a large
 amount of money capital per firm is "invested" in product differentiation,
 especially advertising and marketing. The recent decline in sales at
 McDonalds can be explained in this context -- not in the context of
 continuous technical change or increasing labor plus capital (fixed and
 circulating) costs.
 
 Dropped into my local BK the other day for lunch and was shocked to see
 Whoppers selling for $0.99. (Remember this is Manhattan, where fast food
 prices are about 40% higher than in the Real America.)
 
 Is price competition coming to fast food? And if so, what does that say
 about theories of oligpolistic competition?
 
 Doug
 
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[PEN-L:6611] Toll Of Palestinian Dead And Wounded

1996-10-11 Thread SHAWGI TELL


Another Palestinian succumbed on Monday to his gunshot wounds,
bringing to 68 the toll of Palestinians who were killed by the
Israeli Armed Forces during the recent clashes. The fighting broke
out on September 25, when Israeli soldiers opened fire on
stonethrowing Palestinian protestors. The demonstrators were
enraged by the latest Israeli provocation in Jerusalem and marched
on Israeli army checkpoints throughout the West Bank and Gaza. The
unarmed Palestinians were shot by the Israelis, prompting an armed
defence of the protestors by police members of the Palestinian
Authority. Fifteen Israeli soldiers were subsequently killed.
 The Palestinian Health Ministry reports that 1,665 people were
injured during the clashes, of whom 1,000 had been shot either in
the head or chest. Many are still in danger of losing the battle
with their injuries. Of the 68 dead Palestinians, all but one were
killed by a bullet to the head or chest, over half by headshots.
 The conclusion that can been drawn from this report is that
the Israeli occupation army was under orders to shoot to kill the
Palestinian demonstrators. This fact will have to be taken into
consideration as the Palestinian people prepare to defend
themselves and engage in further struggles for their rights.


Shawgi Tell
University at Buffalo
Graduate School of Education
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[PEN-L:6612] trickle down?

1996-10-11 Thread JDevine

I recently posted the following:increased competition among 
capitalists also hurts profits, no? and profits are up, yup? So 
maybe the problem is increased competition amongst workers.

Ken Hanly COMMENTed that But increased profits means more to 
invest and more jobs and thus more to trickle down to the 
workers; and so it follows, ceteris paribus, that they must be 
better off too ;-) 

Actually, Ken's jesting story makes a certain amount of sense, 
but not in the current historical context. Back in the 1960s in 
the US, high profits encouraged a boom which did seem to have led 
to a trickle-down effect. It occurred due to (1) the relative 
scarcity of labor-power (and organizational strength of labor) 
within the US and the relative immobility of US capital at the 
time; (2) the US industrial and financial hegemony at the time; 
and (3) the Viet Nam war government-spending boom, which 
prevented the late-1960s profit squeeze from immediately spurring 
a recession and the end of trickle-down. (Instead of a recession, 
we eventually got inflation.)  

But the current situation seems more like the 1920s, when the 
abundance and weakness of labor meant very limited trickle-down. 
Investment was mostly boosted by expectations of continued high 
profits (and to some extent encouraged further investment, in a 
short-lived bootstrap growth process). Faced with stagnant 
working-class consumption, this meant that the US economy became 
increasingly prone to collapse. Given international instability, 
this encouraged the great Collapse of 1929-33. 

I don't think history repeats itself, but the current labor 
abundance and organizational weakness, capital mobility, and 
intensified international competitive austerity indicate that any 
trickle down (such as this year's fall in the poverty rate, that 
Billy-Bob Clone-Dilton crows about) will be temporary and 
severely limited. 

Even if there is a collapse, I don't expect any automatic 
revolutionary upsurge. Societal alienation -- specifically, 
scape-goating of minorities  women -- is a much more common 
working-class response to crisis in the absence of a well 
organized and democratic oppositional culture. 

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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and let people talk.) -- K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante A.




[PEN-L:6613] Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Alex Izurieta

 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Henwood)

 How do we know there's been a sharper concentration? 

How can we *really* know?? Especially if behind almost  every big
 firm there seems to be  an intrincate  conglomerate of well diversified 
networks of investors, financial enterprises, conglomerates, and even 
governments...

Yet, I do make my inferences, anyway, based on, say, things I've used 
here and there::
* 'The Times 1000' (1989/90): "The 500 leading European Companies" 
(pp.88 ff.)
* '1990 Britannica Book of the Year', Encyclopaedia Britannica, 
Chicago, pp.816 ff.
* ECLAC had (and possibly still has) a Data Bank on Direct Foreign 
Investment in Latin America, will allowed for calculating Gini's. I 
remember to have used it to make the point that not only MNCs 
showed a tendency -over the 1980s- to concentrate *at the origin*
 by building financial-entrepreneurial conglomerates, but also *in 
destination* by narrowing down into selected countries and 
industries.  

There are of course elaborated studies on the same, which I used over 
the late 1980s and early 1990s. These may focus on financial, 
industry, or country perspectives; they develop their own argument,
 but add sufficient statistics:
* Devlin(1989): Debt and Crises in Latin America;
*Kirpatrick, Lee and Nixson (1985) Industrial Structure and Policy in 
LDCs.;
* also Forbes has quite some stuff on this as well;
* Magdoff (1992): 'Globalization - To What End', in Miliband and 
Panitch (eds): Socialist Register 1992.

As you may see, I haven't followed closely the issue over the last 
four or five years, but still, I happen to find, practically 
everyday,  news about merge  and agreements between big firms (banks, 
telecomunication cias, airlines, computer cias, mining, food 
industries, etc etc...) all over the world. I "looks like" 
sharper concentration, to me...

 Put that together with things as the 
UN Development reports, Human indicator indexes, or other stuff which 
tells about concentration of *personal* wealth... If capitalists are 
getting more and more 'concentrated', it can be related with that *at 
the origin* the capital is  concentrating...

But still, I will be happy to change my mind if there is some 
evidence of the contrary, really. My guess is that, given the current 
complexity of financial interrelations in the world of today, any
*proof*of one point or the other should be taken with care...

Salud,

Alex 



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[PEN-L:6614] Re: competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Fikret Ceyhun

If the rate of profit falls, then there are Marx's counter-tendencies in
operation. Namely, workers' pay on the line as well as outsourcing by MNCs
among other things. When profits are falling, capitalists don't lay dead.
In their closets there are many options.


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[PEN-L:6615] Re: why raise the minimum wage (fwd)

1996-10-11 Thread Doug Henwood

At 7:03 AM 10/11/96, Paul Zarembka wrote:

Doug, you are repeating the same mistake you made last December.  If Bill
Gates spends millions of dollars hiring workers to undertake unproductive
labor at his super mansion in Washington, you fail to recognize that
the wages which go to those workers are from revenue of surplus value.
In your incorrect approach, if all surplus value were used to hire
enormous luxuries for the capitalist class by hiring the appropriate
workers there would be no room for higher wages, whether minimum or not.
In other words, you are looking only at the surface of the national income
accounts, accounts which are constructed to allow dismissal, as
impractical, simple worker class demands like decent wages for all.

The gimmick demoralizes opposition to capitalism and must be opposed as
strongly and as clearly as possible.  And I think most workers would not
see a $20,000 annual income for 40 hours of weekly work as so impossible,
even within capitalism, as you do.

We're not talking about Bill Gates hiring a few workers out of revenue to
perform unproductive labor. We're talking about giving half the U.S.
workforce a big fat raise - that is, bringing the minimum wage to within
hailing distance of the present mean. All the faux Marxoid sophistry you
want to summon can't hide the fact that that would involve massive
transfers of resources and a massive shift in class political power. Those
are desirable goals, but impossible under existing arrangements.

Am I alone in thinking this?

Doug

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USA
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[PEN-L:6616] Re: why raise the minimum wage (fwd)

1996-10-11 Thread Paul Zarembka

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Doug Henwood wrote:

 We're not talking about Bill Gates hiring a few workers out of revenue to
 perform unproductive labor. We're talking about giving half the U.S.
 workforce a big fat raise - that is, bringing the minimum wage to within
 hailing distance of the present mean. All the faux Marxoid sophistry you
 want to summon can't hide the fact that that would involve massive
 transfers of resources and a massive shift in class political power. Those
 are desirable goals, but impossible under existing arrangements.
 
 Am I alone in thinking this?

No, you are not alone. All (or, all but one) of my neoclassical colleagues
would agree with you.  In any case, previously on this list you described
Adolph Reed as a very fine fellow and he was one of the prime movers to
have the Labor Party convention adopt a $10 minimum wage as part of its
platform.  So, maybe you may want take the issue up with him.  Reed and I
may disagree on some things, but not on this one.  The convention, by the
way, found a $10 minimum wage non-controversial and there were 1400
delegates there.

Paul Z.

P.S.  Please define "faux Marxoid sophistry".  That's a new form of
attack.





[PEN-L:6617] Re: Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Michael Perelman

We are taught that competition is good.  Yet, we can think of a
depression as a symptom of heightened competition.

Within this framework, what happens during a depression is what happens
with greater competition.  Business gets busy laying off workers,
installing new technology [yes, the depression was a period of rapid
technical change], and finding ways to rebuild their profits.

In terms of income shares, profits fall more than wages -- as we would
expect with more competition.  But the fall in workers' standard of
living is a greater threat to their being [notwithstanding our imagery
of flying bankers following the stock market crash].

The government tries to avoid excess competiition [depressions] via
government spending (i.e. military expenditures) and a lenient policy
toward anti-competitive measures.  Business will tend to organize and
consolidate until they can enjoy a new period of lax competition.

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 916-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:6618] IMPORTANT COURT RULING (fwd)

1996-10-11 Thread D Shniad

 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:36:06 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: UNITED [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: IMPORTANT COURT RULING
 
 The following court case may mean justice for many thousands of workers.
 My employer isn't gonna like this and yours probably won't either. -- LW
 
 
 BENEFIT RULING COULD HAVE WIDE IMPACT
 
 An appeals court ruling in Seattle against Microsoft for treating
 employees as independent contractors is sending shivers through
 the high-tech industry and beyond.
 
 If it stands, last week's 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decision
 will let hundreds, maybe thousands, of Microsoft workers collect
 back 401(k) retirement benefits and stock worth $133 a share that
 employees bought for $5 a share in 1987.
 
 The ramifications are enormous. By opening the door to back benefits,
 contractors found to be employees in the future could sue companies
 for medical bills for which they would have had insurance.
 
 They could sue for discrimination, sexual harassment and other
 protections available only to employees, says Washington lawyer
 Jay Krupin.
 
 It could undermine the growing corporate strategy of using temporary
 and contract workers to grow or shrink workforces depending on
 demand. More recently, contract workers have been hired by companies
 to buffer against legislation such as the Family and Medical Leave
 and the Americans with Disabilities acts, which apply to employees
 but not contractors.
 
 In the high-tech industry, temporary and contract workers can
 typically make up 10% to 12% of a company's workforce.
 
 Contract workers, to be legal, must be their own bosses by bidding
 on jobs and working for multiple companies.
 
 "Increasingly, you have a smaller and smaller core of true
 employees," says Amy Dean, chief executive officer of the
 South Bay AFL-CIO Labor Council in California.
 
 There are plenty of jobs, says high-tech worker Richelle Noroyan
 of Santa Cruz, Calif., but to get one, "You have to go through
 an agency" and get no benefits.
 
 Microsoft, which likely will appeal, says the ruling applies to
 fewer than 1,000 workers, but still would cost the company millions
 of dollars. Plaintiff lawyer David Stobaugh says the class-action
 lawsuit applies to thousands of more workers through the present.
 
 By Del Jones and Julie Schmit
 
 




Re: [PEN-L:6617] Re: Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Anthony D'Costa

The Japanese have an expression "kato kyoso" meaning excessive competition
which they vehemently oppose.  Various state-capital arrangements and
cartel-like behavior reduce competition.  Prices are high no doubt but
mass lay offs rare as well.  

Anthony P. D'Costa
Associate Professor
Comparative International Development
University of Washington
1103 A Street
Tacoma, WA 98402, USA

Ph: (206) 552-4462
FAX: (206) 552-4414


On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Michael Perelman wrote:

 We are taught that competition is good.  Yet, we can think of a
 depression as a symptom of heightened competition.
 
 Within this framework, what happens during a depression is what happens
 with greater competition.  Business gets busy laying off workers,
 installing new technology [yes, the depression was a period of rapid
 technical change], and finding ways to rebuild their profits.
 
 In terms of income shares, profits fall more than wages -- as we would
 expect with more competition.  But the fall in workers' standard of
 living is a greater threat to their being [notwithstanding our imagery
 of flying bankers following the stock market crash].
 
 The government tries to avoid excess competiition [depressions] via
 government spending (i.e. military expenditures) and a lenient policy
 toward anti-competitive measures.  Business will tend to organize and
 consolidate until they can enjoy a new period of lax competition.
 
 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929
 
 Tel. 916-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 




[PEN-L:6619] a nobel puzzle

1996-10-11 Thread Michael Perelman

Suppose you won the Nobel prize and wanted to put it to use to make the
society you live in improve as much as possible.  Where would you spend
the $?  Supporting labor? Radical education? Organize a vanguard movement?
-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 916-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:6620] Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Fikret Ceyhun

Doug said:

How do we know there's been a sharper concentration? Thirty years ago,
there were three major players in the U.S. auto market; now there are what,
5 or 10?

I sat at a conference a few weeks ago and listened to someone denouncing
the increased monopolization of world trade by 40,000 multinational
corporations. 40,000? Even allowing for 100 industrial sectors, we're
talking 400 per. Do a Herfindahl on that one!

Another question - did the textbook world of perfect competition ever
really exist? Or has something like oligpolistic competition been the only
real historically existing kind?

Doug


In an article, "The Limits of the Earth," by David Korten in "The
Nation" (July 15/22, 1996) domestic as well as international concentration
is heavy and increasing.He says, "five companies now control more than 50
percent of the global market in the following industries: consumer
durables, automotive, airlines, aerospace, electronic
components,electricity and electronics, and steel. Five corporations
control more than 40 percent of the global market in oil, personal
computers and--especially alarming in its consequences for public debate on
these very issues--media."

There are other interesting statistics cited by the article, which
questions the achievement of the Bretton Woods system that launched
"globalization" with dire consequences. The article says: "The Fortune 500
firms shed 4.4 million jobs between 1980 and 1993, but during this same
period, their sales increased 1.4 times, assets increased 2.3 times and CEO
compensation increased 6.1 times. . . . Those same corporations employ
1/20th of 1 percent of the world's population, but control 25 percent of
the world's output and 70 percent of world trade."

 It seems to me we should not just look at how many (like 40,000)
MNCs there are, but control of the few. I have seen statistics somewhere
else where 1,000 MNCs control the bulk of the world,'s output, trade and
investment.So the remaining 39,000 contribute very little to total sales.

 Fikret.


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Re: [PEN-L:6620] Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Anthony D'Costa

I don't about the other industries, but sorry not in steel.  The top five
companies in the world (by crude steel output) control 13.5% of the total
world output.  In fact this is one industry where there has been
deconcentration, here and abroad, and globally.


Anthony P. D'Costa
Associate Professor
Comparative International Development
University of Washington
1103 A Street
Tacoma, WA 98402, USA

Ph: (206) 552-4462
FAX: (206) 552-4414


On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Fikret Ceyhun wrote:

 Doug said:
 
 How do we know there's been a sharper concentration? Thirty years ago,
 there were three major players in the U.S. auto market; now there are what,
 5 or 10?
 
 I sat at a conference a few weeks ago and listened to someone denouncing
 the increased monopolization of world trade by 40,000 multinational
 corporations. 40,000? Even allowing for 100 industrial sectors, we're
 talking 400 per. Do a Herfindahl on that one!
 
 Another question - did the textbook world of perfect competition ever
 really exist? Or has something like oligpolistic competition been the only
 real historically existing kind?
 
 Doug
 
 
 In an article, "The Limits of the Earth," by David Korten in "The
 Nation" (July 15/22, 1996) domestic as well as international concentration
 is heavy and increasing.He says, "five companies now control more than 50
 percent of the global market in the following industries: consumer
 durables, automotive, airlines, aerospace, electronic
 components,electricity and electronics, and steel. Five corporations
 control more than 40 percent of the global market in oil, personal
 computers and--especially alarming in its consequences for public debate on
 these very issues--media."
 
 There are other interesting statistics cited by the article, which
 questions the achievement of the Bretton Woods system that launched
 "globalization" with dire consequences. The article says: "The Fortune 500
 firms shed 4.4 million jobs between 1980 and 1993, but during this same
 period, their sales increased 1.4 times, assets increased 2.3 times and CEO
 compensation increased 6.1 times. . . . Those same corporations employ
 1/20th of 1 percent of the world's population, but control 25 percent of
 the world's output and 70 percent of world trade."
 
  It seems to me we should not just look at how many (like 40,000)
 MNCs there are, but control of the few. I have seen statistics somewhere
 else where 1,000 MNCs control the bulk of the world,'s output, trade and
 investment.So the remaining 39,000 contribute very little to total sales.
 
  Fikret.
 
 
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[PEN-L:6621] Recent court ruling

1996-10-11 Thread D Shniad

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996
From: Philip Kraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]

BENEFIT RULING COULD HAVE WIDE IMPACT

 By Del Jones and Julie Schmit

An appeals court ruling in Seattle against Microsoft
for treating employees as independent contractors is
sending shivers through the high-tech industry and
beyond.

If it stands, last week's 9th U.S. Circuit Court of
Appeals decision will let hundreds, maybe thousands, of
Microsoft workers collect back 401(k) retirement
benefits and stock worth $133 a share that employees
bought for $5 a share in 1987.

The ramifications are enormous. By opening the door to
back benefits, contractors found to be employees in the
future could sue companies for medical bills for which
they would have had insurance.

They could sue for discrimination, sexual harassment
and other protections available only to employees, says
Washington lawyer Jay Krupin.

It could undermine the growing corporate strategy of
using temporary and contract workers to grow or shrink
workforces depending on demand. More recently, contract
workers have been hired by companies to buffer against
legislation such as the Family and Medical Leave and
the Americans with Disabilities acts, which apply to
employees but not contractors.

In the high-tech industry, temporary and contract
workers can typically make up 10% to 12% of a company's
workforce.

Contract workers, to be legal, must be their own bosses
by bidding on jobs and working for multiple companies.

"Increasingly, you have a smaller and smaller core of
true employees," says Amy Dean, chief executive officer
of the South Bay AFL-CIO Labor Council in California.

There are plenty of jobs, says high-tech worker
Richelle Noroyan of Santa Cruz, Calif., but to get one,
"You have to go through an agency" and get no benefits.

Microsoft, which likely will appeal, says the ruling
applies to fewer than 1,000 workers, but still would
cost the company millions of dollars. Plaintiff lawyer
David Stobaugh says the class-action lawsuit applies to
thousands of more workers through the present.



[PEN-L:6622] not all competition is equal

1996-10-11 Thread Robert R Naiman

why don't we distinguish between types of competition?

when ncds'ers talk about how capitalist firms are engaging in
cutthroat competition, they want us to have the idea that firms are
competing *for consumers*, especially by lowering prices.

but it turns out, not surprisingly, that capitalists find price
competition really annoying, and so they move to eliminate it, often
successfully, through buying up competitors, vertical integration,
dominating market niches, etc.

a very different kind of competition is capital competition. and this
i do think capitalists face, especially in the us these days, with few
capital controls, and high capital minimum wages. (Fed interest rates.)

___
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[PEN-L:6624] Re: Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Doug Henwood

At 10:14 AM 10/11/96, Michael Perelman wrote:

The government tries to avoid excess competiition [depressions] via
government spending (i.e. military expenditures) and a lenient policy
toward anti-competitive measures.  Business will tend to organize and
consolidate until they can enjoy a new period of lax competition.

Do you agree, Michael, that we're in a period now of greater competition
than the 1950s and 1960s?

Doug

--

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Left Business Observer
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New York NY 10024-3217
USA
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[PEN-L:6625] Re: why raise the minimum wage (fwd)

1996-10-11 Thread bill mitchell

Doug in reply to Paul Z

We're not talking about Bill Gates hiring a few workers out of revenue to
perform unproductive labor. We're talking about giving half the U.S.
workforce a big fat raise - that is, bringing the minimum wage to within
hailing distance of the present mean. All the faux Marxoid sophistry you
want to summon can't hide the fact that that would involve massive
transfers of resources and a massive shift in class political power. Those
are desirable goals, but impossible under existing arrangements.

Am I alone in thinking this?


make us a duo at least doug. there is a tendency on the left to deny that wage
share shifts of large proportions don't cause unemployment and chaos. they seem
to have been brought up with MPT and don't want to believe that and so they
enter this position of self-denial.


rowthorn said (paraphrasing) that the "working class cannot afford to be too
successful" - meaning that the system is engineered by those seeking a desired
rate of profit to ensure they get it. the workers suffer if they organise too
well and grap some surplus back.

it is not a MPT story at all but works largely through macro variables.

the experience of the mid 70s really hammered the point home after the long
golden period of growth after the war. the unions got too successful.

it also exemplifies my position on unions for which i have been severely
critized on this list (by doug as well as others). by spending efforts on
trifling about wages and conditions they are falling prey to the capitalists.
instead if they had have organised to challenge control and ownership things
might have been very different.

kind regards
bill

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[PEN-L:6627] Re: why raise the minimum wage (fwd)

1996-10-11 Thread Doug Henwood

At 2:18 PM 10/11/96, Gerald Levy wrote:

Since you are now using this term,

a) define surplus value.

b) explain how surplus value is measured.

No, I don't have to Jerry. You're just being a pest.

Doug

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New York NY 10024-3217
USA
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[PEN-L:6628] Re: Competitiveness

1996-10-11 Thread Michael Perelman

absolutely!  

Doug Henwood wrote:
 
 At 10:14 AM 10/11/96, Michael Perelman wrote:
 
 The government tries to avoid excess competiition [depressions] via
 government spending (i.e. military expenditures) and a lenient policy
 toward anti-competitive measures.  Business will tend to organize and
 consolidate until they can enjoy a new period of lax competition.
 
 Do you agree, Michael, that we're in a period now of greater competition
 than the 1950s and 1960s?
 
 Doug
 
 --
 
 Doug Henwood
 Left Business Observer
 250 W 85 St
 New York NY 10024-3217
 USA
 +1-212-874-4020 voice
 +1-212-874-3137 fax
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html


--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 916-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:6630] Cracks In The U.S. Empire

1996-10-11 Thread SHAWGI TELL


U.S. imperialism is having difficulty holding its European empire
together. It gives the appearance of being cocksure of itself and
its power, but below the surface contradictions are churning. U.S.
Defense Secretary William Perry's recent extended tour throughout
his European domain was designed to create an aura that the U.S.
dictates everything, and if a country wants to survive in this
imperialist world it had better join the U.S. retinue. He swept
from country to country in the style of royalty, meeting only with
those who fawned in his presence, giving the impression that all
and sundry were scrambling to join his NATO. An expanded NATO,
sneering at a subdued Russia, would be in a position to challenge
Asia in a way that has not been dreamed since the heyday of
European colonialism.
 Yet, right under his nose schemes are afoot to challenge that
authority. NATO member Turkey, their most faithful servile tool
during the Cold War has shown brazen disregard for its master in
recent weeks. Turkey's President Necmettin Erbakan is visiting and
developing trade relations with states that in one way or another
have incurred the wrath of the U.S. and are on its "rogue" list:
Iran, Libya, Sudan and Nigeria. President Erbakan braving open
threats at home and abroad has persisted in Turkey's tentative
steps towards an independent foreign policy. The U.S. is not
amused. U.S. State Department spokesperson Nicholas Burns denounced
remarks attributed to Erbakan describing Libya as a "victim of
terrorism." Burns said, "It's up to allies to be good allies and to
understand you can't pick and choose places where you are going to
support us or not support us." Erbakan would be well advised to
throw out those legions of CIA agents that have freely operated in
Turkey for decades.
 The Achilles heel of U.S. imperialism at this time is that it
simply does not have the money necessary to bribe and subvert in
the manner required to hold its satellites in check. It is
incapable of organizing even a shadow of its monstrous Marshall
Plan that flooded Europe with U.S. capital after the Second World
War. It possesses an enormous military and the ugly reputation that
it will use it ruthlessly; however, for major operations like the
Gulf War, it is other imperialists who must foot much of the bill.


Shawgi Tell
University at Buffalo
Graduate School of Education
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[PEN-L:6631] jobs for environmental economists

1996-10-11 Thread Michael Perelman

Can the environmental economists out there help me by giving me some
ideas of the jobs are available for someone with an undergraduate degree
in environmental economics?

Thanks.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 916-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:6632] 50% Marginal Tax Rate for Working Families

1996-10-11 Thread Nathan Newman



Speaking of minimum wage workers, do folks realize that if working
families get any increase in wages above the minimum wage, they face the
highest marginal tax rate of any income group?

In fact, they are taxed at a rate equal to roughly 50% of any additional 
income.

Here's what they pay just in FICA (SS  Medicare) and Income Taxes:

 7.65%  Employer side of FICA
 7.65%  Employee side of FICA
15.00%  Income tax

Total: 30.3% tax rate -- already ridiculously high

But what kicks in for working families with two kids making above $11,300
per year is that the Earned Income Tax Credit begins being phased out. 
From $11,300 to $26,000, the EITC is phased out at a rate of $202 of
credit lost for every $1000 earned. This adds an additional de facto 20.2%
tax rate on top of the already existing 30.3% paid for income taxes and
FICA.

That's a 50.5% tax rate on any raises above the minimum wage or families
with two kids. (Since the credit is less with one kid, the lost credit is
only $159 for evey $1000 earned, or a 46.1% marginal tax rate.)

It is worth noting that marginal tax rate is higher than the 43% tax rate
faced by most middle income taxpayers (FICA and income tax for those
making roughly $30-60,000 per year), much more than the marginal tax rate
for professional income above $60,000 per year (only 34% to 39% up to
$250,000 per year since no social security taxes are paid on those
amounts).

What this means is that even if we raised the minimum wage from $5.15 to
$10 per hour, a working mother with kids would have almost half of the
increase taken up by taxes and lost EITC. 

Without showing all the math and ignoring the employer side of the FICA
tax, such a minimum wage hike for a mother with two kids working full-time
would increase her nominal income from $10,712 to $20,800 per year. 
However, of that nominal additional $10,088 in income, the takehome pay of
that working mom would increase only $5926.  41% of that additional income
goes to the federal government (plus an additional 7.65% for the employer
side of the FICA tax--or a total federal share of that increase of $4919). 
The rate would be even higher if we were measuring from slightly above the
minimum wage to the raised wage because of how EITC works. 

You don't have to be a rightwinger to think there is a problem when the
federal government gets almost half of any raise given to the poorest
workers.

We know why the rightwing doesn't care about this tax burden (although I
think Jack Kemp has talked about it in passing at points) but where are
leftwingers in denouncing this kind of tax burden on the working poor?

One solution we should advocate is ending the phaseout of the EITC (except
maybe with a long phaseout for very high incomes).  Essentially we would
trump the Republicans and Clinton and advocate a $2000 tax credit for a
first child and an additional $1000 tax credit for a second child
(essentially what the EITC adds up to at its peak). This would have to be
paid for with higher rates on the wealthy (say by having them pay the
marginal 50% tax rate now faced by the working poor) but that would be a
much more progressive situation than the present system. 

This proposal if passed would have the additional advantage of
institutionalizing the EITC not as a program just for the poor but a tax
credit used by all income groups.  It also simplifies the tax code for a
lot of people since they wouldn't have to do the calculations on phasing
out the EITC.  

---Nathan Newman
   Progressive Communications
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[PEN-L:6634] Fwd: nobel prize and iaffe newsletter

1996-10-11 Thread MScoleman

wow.  maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William S. Brown (907) 465-6423/789-2448)
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 96-10-11 14:59:59 EDT

William Vickery was killed in a car wreck last night. He was 
driving.


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[PEN-L:6635] Fwd: Vickrey's death

1996-10-11 Thread MScoleman


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Forwarded message:
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William S. Brown (907) 465-6423/789-2448)
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 96-10-11 15:17:50 EDT

One of my students who works for a radio station called to 
tell me the details of Vickrey's death. Here is the AP flash:

Nobel Death URGENT, take 3: 10-11 7:27 a

"Columbia says Vickrey was found unconscious and slumped 
over the wheel of his car last night. He'd been traveling to an 
academic conference when he was found, on a highway about 
30 miles north of New Yrk City. He was 82."


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[PEN-L:6636] Re: a nobel puzzle

1996-10-11 Thread James Michael Craven

 Date sent:  Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:41:40 -0700 (PDT)
 Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:   Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:[PEN-L:6619] a nobel puzzle

 Suppose you won the Nobel prize and wanted to put it to use to make the
 society you live in improve as much as possible.  Where would you spend
 the $?  Supporting labor? Radical education? Organize a vanguard movement?
 -- 
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929
 
 Tel. 916-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you had won the Nobel Prize, what would be the chances that you 
would give a damn about society? What would be the chances that you 
would be other than an ultra-individualistic, materialistic, 
acquisitive, coldly "rational and calculating", egoistic, ultra-
competitive, selfish, atomistic anti-social petit bourgeois 
neoclassical apologist utilizing not-so-elegantly quantified 
theoretical mystifications of a fantasy of capitalism built on 
contrived assumptions and syllogisms, meaningless tautologies, linear 
unidirectional chains of causality and simultaneous equations 
portraying perfectly--or somewhat perfectly--mobile, informed, 
rational and calculating economic actors whose mutually cancelling 
interactions lead to movement toward a singular general equilibrium 
solution and Pareto Optimality in an non-historical or anti-
historical and anti-institutional vacuum.

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[PEN-L:6637] comments on URPE history welcome

1996-10-11 Thread Susan Fleck

October 11, 1996

Dear friends and URPE members,

This is a very first draft of a submission for the
Encyclopedia for Political Economy being coordinated by
Phil O'Hara.  I have written 1174 rough words and have
a 1200 word maximum.  I am stuck and need collective
help.  I have no access to files at the URPE office or
the URPE archives at Cornell and need to depend on the
memory of 'old-timers' for the entry.  Please correct,
verify, or add any information that will make this a
whole piece.

I'd like feedback soon.  You may send it to the list or
to me.  Please help out if you have something to
contribute, stories to share, important events to
chronicle, etc..  The entry will only be as good as the
sum of its parts.

In solidarity,

Susan Fleck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

P.S.  If you have been a member of URPE in the past and
are not now, remember that it's easy to join!  Just
send $15 to the URPE national office for yearly
membership (newsletter without journal).

URPE National Office
1 Summer St.
Somerville, MA 02143

If you'd like to receive a subscription the Review for
Radical Political Economics, I'll need to get the info
on where to send it, since we are in the midst of
changing publishers.  Write me.

VERY ROUGH DRAFT OF HISTORY OF URPE FOR THE
ENCYCLOPEDIA FOR POLITICAL ECONOMY.

 The Union for Radical Political Economics (URPE)
was founded in 1968 in the United States to support an
alternative left perspective to mainstream neoclassical
economic theory.  The name of the organization is
intended to invite all people who consider themselves
practitioners of radical political economics to join,
even though they are not economists.  Graduate students
and faculty from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor,
and Harvard University and Radcliffe College held a
working meeting in Ann Arbor in the summer of 1968 to
found the organization, just a few weeks before the
Democratic Party convention in Chicago.
 The first act of protest from this core of 25
economics students and faculty was to write to the
Executive Committee of the American Economic
Association (AEA) to request a boycott of Chicago as a
result of the police crackdown on protesters.  They
wanted to move the December 1968 meetings of the Allied
Social Science Association (ASSA) to another city.  The
proposal was considered by the AEA Executive Committee
but lost by one vote.  As a result, a number of
graduate students decided to boycott the ASSA meetings.
A group of anti-war and left-leaning faculty decided to
join the boycott of the ASSA and the AEA and to
organize alternative meetings in order to interview
graduate students for the economics job market.  This
alternative job market and first national URPE
conference was held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
December 19-21, 1968.  Approximately 600-700 graduate
students and faculty attended to listen to sessions and
to participate in the alternative academic job market.
 The prospectus for the Union for Radical Political
Economics was also presented at that time.  The purpose
of the organization ws defined as five tasks which
economists could tackle.  These included:

 1. A new approach to social problems should be
formulated - one which attempts to break out of the
bonds of narrow specialization and utilizes political
science,sociology, and social psychology...
 2. In the classroom new courses should be tauhgt,
and those courses presently taught should be chnaged to
reflect the urgencies of the day...
 3.  The priorities in economic research should
also be made more relevant to the world around us.  A
sampling of new issues whcih should be treated by
economsits include: the economics of the ghetto;
poverty in the American economy; international
imperialism; interest group analysis; and the military-
university-industrial-labor complex...  Along with the
change in research priorities must come a change in the
vlaue premises upon which economic research is based.
 4. Joint research must be formulated so that the
quest for scholarship does not indue us to tackle tiny
fragments of large interrelated problems.
 5. The social movements of our day need an
economic analysis offered in a sensitive manner." (URPE
1968).


 The first summer conference of URPE was held in a
camp in northern Michigan, in the summer of 1969, where
approximately 70 attended.  It was at this time that
URPE developed its three pronged strategy of a parallel
professional organization in economics, which was to
present alternative perspectives through publications,
through the U.S. yearly economics meetings coordinated
by the ASSA, and to organize a yearly conference
distant from the stifling atmosphere of academic
institutions.
 Although URPE has historically had been a more
activist organization than it is at present, (for
example, members of URPE threatened to take over the
hotel lobby of 1969 AEA/ASSA meetings if they were not
given room for URPE sessions) it has always maintained
as its' core 

[PEN-L:6638] vickery and radical economics

1996-10-11 Thread Susan Fleck

I have been told by a member  of URPE that Vickery (en paz descanse)
was a member of URPE, if not now, at least at some time in the past.
Does anyone on PENl know him or his work?  Does Michael Perelman
ask his question of Nobel prize money because he was named in Vickery's will?

Oops, don't mean to spread rumors.



goodnight,
susan fleck
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[PEN-L:6639] Re: comments on URPE history welcome

1996-10-11 Thread Gerald Levy

I was struck by the fact that the "history" doesn't include the _names_ of
*any* URPE founders or leaders!!! Don't you think that David Gordon and
others deserve a mention? Without any names, URPE's history sounds rather
faceless and impersonal.

Jerry




[PEN-L:6640] will the bosses pay $10?

1996-10-11 Thread Robert R Naiman

doug (paul)

since when is it our job to determine what the bosses can
accomodate?

e.g. you could make a case, and many have, that racism is so
entwined with the u.s. economic system that it will never be
completely eradicated without the overthrow of capitalism.

if i were convinced of this, would that imply that in order to be
honest, instead of advocating "the total elimination of racism" i
have to advocate "the total elimination of racism, but please be
advised that this is not possible without overthrowing the economic
system"? 

let's push the minimum wage to $10/hr. if paul is right, workers
will get the $10/hr. if doug's right, the system will collapse.
either outcome suits me fine. it's a win/win.

like the pre '89 polish joke i heard from a german friend. a guy
walks into a bank in poland to open an account with a few hundred
zlotys. but he's a little nervous about banks. so he asks the
teller, "how can i be sure the bank's not going to collapse?" "it's
not going to collapse," answers the teller. "but what if it does?"
"if it does,"  answers the teller, "it's backed up by the Central
Bank in Warsaw." "but what if the central bank collapses?" "it's not
going to collapse." "but what if it does?" "if it does," answers the
teller, "it's backed up by the Soviet Union." "but what if the
soviet union collapses?" "it's not going to collapse." "but what if
it does?" 
"if the soviet union collapses," answers the teller, "isn't that
worth a couple hundred zlotys?"
---
as for bill's antipathy towards unions, i'm with gompers: "MORE!"
(gompers was, after all, a socialist... ; ) i don't think unions
can ever go wrong by demanding more, as long as they do it for the
whole working class (including those not working) rather than some
sector, (like the unionized or the skilled). the swedish and
norwegian unions did it right -- they moderated the wage demands of
those at the top in return for full employment, bringing up the
bottom, and levelling the wage structure.


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Chicago Il 60608-2716
(h) 312-421-1776 

Urban Planning and Policy (M/C 348)
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