Re: pylons apps?
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Re: session problem in 0.92dev
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Re: PythonOption SCRIPT_NAME /
And calls to root, for example http://www.example.com; were continually redirected If it's running at the root URL (/), then you can leave off SCRIPT_NAME entirely. Yes, bacause in that case SCRIPT_NAME actually is an empty string. Probably PythonOption SCRIPT_NAME would work Also, in the latest Paste (easy_install -U Paste==dev), it now comes with a modpython script which can directly load paste INI files. Using that will also simplify setup and remove the need for a startup.py file. Here's the docs for using the paste version: http://pylonshq.com/docs/0.9.2/module-paste.modpython.html Maybe that page needs to be made a bit clearer on PythonOption SCRIPT_NAME. If you use the SetHandler python-program in a Location .. Apache directive, Apache itself will corectly set up the SCRIPT_NAME environment variable. But if you use it in a Directory directive Apache will not how to set SCRIPT_NAME corectly, so you need an explicit PythonOption. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upload Forget CMS
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Re: Using Durus with Pylons
I finally ended up putting the connection in MyController.__before__(). That way it's created only in controllers that actually use the database,and it's one less module to modify. But I still want to see if it's possible to use one connection for several requests. The usual way is to use a global dictionary that holds the connections indexed by the thread id. Something like this should work: id = thread.get_ident() global conn_cache conn = conn_cache.get(id, newconnection()) Something like this is implemented in the threading.local() class which is new in Python 2.4 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: comments on Unicode document
http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/browser/Pylons/trunk/docs/internationalization.txt Wow, great document This is a lot of non-Pylons-specific work! And this should really be added to the Python wiki, too... and eventually should enter the standard Python documentation. My notes: http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/browser/Pylons/trunk/docs/internationalization.txt#L88 stanardised = standardised http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/browser/Pylons/trunk/docs/internationalization.txt#L107 This has the useful side effect that English text looks exactly the same in UTF-8 as it did in ISO-8859-1 and ASCII, because for every ISO-8859-1 character with hexadecimal value 0xXY, the corresponding Unicode code point is U+00XY. This is not true for iso-8859-1 since it defines characters in the 160-255 range too. Only ASCI encoding (0-127) is a proper subset of the UTF-8 encoding. http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/ (ISO 8859-1 character set overview) This is a very good takeaway rule: The main rule is this:: Your application should use Unicode for all strings internally, decoding any input to Unicode as soon as it enters the application and encoding the Unicode to UTF-8 or another encoding on output. I'd just add 'and encoding the Unicode to UTF-8 or another encoding ONLY on output.' --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: comments on Unicode document
For example MySQL's Unicode documentation is here Also note that you need to consider both the encoding of the database and the encoding used by the database driver. If you're using MySQL together with SQLAlchemy, see the following, as there are some bugs in MySQLdb that you'll need to work around: http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com/msg00366.html Shannon, I've read the therad on the sqlalchemy list.. but I never saw the output of 'show create table ...'. This is very important because different versions of MySQL might have different defaults, and your Linux distro might also set it's own defaults. The thing is that a conversion can happen in the MySQL C API and in the MySQL DB too. I've been using this code to connect to MySQL db = MySQLdb.connect(db='test', charset='utf8', use_unicode=True) which, as I understand it, tells the MySQL C API to use UTF-8 over the wire (charset='utf8'), and to use unicode objects on the Python side of the things (use_unicode=True). But also my unicode test table is created like this: CREATE TABLE `test_unicode_table` ( `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `test_column` varchar(5) collate utf8_unicode_ci default NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`id`) ) ENGINE=MyISAM AUTO_INCREMENT=2 DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_unicode_ci --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using Durus with Pylons
Actually this is what I've used to create per thread durus connections and cache them: from durus.client_storage import ClientStorage from durus.connection import Connection import threading def connect(address): tls = threading.local() try: connection = tls.connection except: connection = Connection(ClientStorage(address=address)) tls.connection = connection return connection I'm using it here with Unix domain sockets, so I just need one 'address' parameter. (BTW I think Durus should unify the address like it's with the Python sockets, but that's a whole another story). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: comments on Unicode document
Are we on the same page, or am I still lost? Not lost at all :) Except I'd prefer if all Python API's would be unicode aware, and would not encode/decode until it's utmost necessary. I think it would be nice if the Python DB-API is reviewed and make unicode a requirement (for quieries and results). This would be inline with the P3K efforts. And I think that most dB drivers today do support unicode, MySQLdb obviously, psycopg2 and pysqlite2 IMHO support unicode too. So I don't think SQLAlchemy should do the encode/decode'ing unless the underlaying driver doesn't support unicode. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using Durus with Pylons
And now that I re-read it again I see it's wrong. if 'tls' would've been a global variable it would made some sense --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: UTF-8 ... help
UTF-8 is not ASCII. ASCII is a 7-bit charset (0-127), UTF-8 is a 8-bit, multibyte, NULL byte clean, encoding of Unicode. Unicode is not multi-byte strings. Unicode is the standard that defines which codepoint (number) is which glyph (character). There are different ways to represent Unicode in software. UTF-8 is one, UCS-16 or UCS-32 or UTF-16 are another. UCS-32 is the simplest 32-bit number to Unicode glyph mapping. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More on unicode
While on the topic ... can someone take a look at http://routes.groovie.org/trac/routes/ticket/37 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More on unicode
Thanks, it works... I also notice that with this version of Routes 1.6.3dev-r325 controller arguments are unicode now. for example, I have def show(self, pagename): ... pagename was a byte string before, but now it's unicode... which is great. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Routes question
I really liked to be able to define a route like this:
map.connect('*pagename;:action', controller='page')
but it seems unpossible (according to
http://routes.groovie.org/manual.html#wildcard-limitations-and-gotchas)
... actually the main problem is because action='index' is defined by
default in Routes ..
since
map.connect('*pagename;:somethingelse', controller='page')
matches correct, but is not usefull.
Any suggestions? For now I specify a route for each action:
map.connect('*pagename;edit', controller='page', action='edit')
map.connect('*pagename;listtags', controller='page',
action='listtags')
map.connect('*pagename;addtag', controller='page',
action='addtag')
map.connect('*pagename;removetag', controller='page',
action='removetag')
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Re: More on unicode
What I want is to pick up the languages supported by the browser in the order in which they are specified by the browser. It would appear that Firefox changes the sequence of the languages based on the currently selected locale - at least my copy does. Most probably ... since that string comes from the locale. (intl.accept_languages in ./toolkit/chrome/global/intl.properties - I'm helping with a Firefox localization and have the source here :) ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Request: tutorial for ToscaWidgets :)
I've created this Genshi markup for a project of mine http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/web/edit.html ... now I have this tagging widget there that works with Mochikit. It shows the tags associated with a page, and allows for AJAX adding and removing of the tags (with all the bells and whistles). So the input to the widget is, the initial taglist, addtag and removetag URL's and a url for the activity indicator. Now I thinks it would be great if this was a ToscaWidget, that I could reuse in other pages.. but I don't know anything about ToscaWidgets (yet) ... so maybe if someone can create a ToscaWidget of this example it would be an interesting and helpfull tutorial? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Request: tutorial for ToscaWidgets :)
It would be nice if those parameters could be passed to a constructor in a single js call, that would make wraping it in a TW quite easy and it would allow having multiple taggers in the same page. So you mean like more object oriented javascript?... I've never done that, but I can try. Done! :) I've replaced the file on http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/web/edit.html with the new version. I've tested with two DIV's and it works just fine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adding Genshi Template Engine (environment.py vs middleware.py)
# Setup Genshi(only) Template Engine Implying that mix'n'match isn't supported? That's copy/paste from the recipe I've found... I don't use other templates so I've not even tried mixing them. So I don't imply anything. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adding Genshi Template Engine (environment.py vs middleware.py)
I only thought that it might be a bit premature to hard-code it into the project templates as the only engine. Unless Genshi is now part of the standard Pylons easy_install? Which is what I should have written in the first place. Aha I understand what you mean... No, I don't propose to make Genshi default in the environment.py, but to slightly reorganize environment.py and middleware so that templates are configured in environment.py and not in middleware.py, which to me is more logical. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
setting a cookie whether a redirect happens or not - part 2
There was a discussion recently about this on this list but also on IRC etc. I have two sollutions, one was to make a custom redirect response that then I could modify. The other is to modify Pylons so that instead of re-raiseing the HTTPException in WSGIController.__call__ so that the httpexceptions middleware catches it, instead create a response out of the exception and then call __after__ with that reponse. The patch for the second sollution is here : http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/ticket/201 Just look at the (positive) changes my controller had, after applying #201, here's the diff of my controller http://paste.lisp.org/display/37002. The patch in #201 could be also made a lot shorter if Paste implements a get_response() call in the HTTPException class. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: problems with paster serve reload
I've been getting this on Gentoo ever since I started using Pylons two months ago, on two different versions of Pylons and Paste (both Python 2.4.x). Only I don't have to modify any files; merely running paster serve --reload and ctrl-c is enough to leave threads running which have to be manually killed. On the other hand it *does* reload files properly I think. As far as I understand paster restarts the whole process, so ofcourse it *reloads* properly :) Is it possible that Gentoo has some patched Python version? I don't remember ever happening to me that CTRL-C would not kill the server. I use Slackware and ArchLinux and Python 2.4 (2.4.2 and 2.4.4). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Routes generates bad URLs with args containing spaces
Isn't + and %20 considered the same in HTTP??
On Mar 17, 12:12 am, Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a bunch of images with spaces in the filenames. I need to
embed the filename in the URL with the proper escaping, so:
6001/1355/SHELLNAIRN08OCT05 _24_.jpg
should be:
/attachments/6001/1355/SHELLNAIRN08OCT05%20_24_.jpg
I have a route like this:
NUMERIC = R\d+
map.connect(attachment, /attachments/:orr_id/:entry_id/:filename,
requirements={orr_id: NUMERIC, entry_id: NUMERIC})
$ paster shell development.ini h.url_for(attachment, orr_id=6001,
entry_id=1355,
filename='SHELLNAIRN08OCT05 _24_.jpg')
'/attachments/6001/1355/SHELLNAIRN08OCT05+_24_.jpg'
Oops, it quoted it query-string style. Maybe I should escape the
argument myself.
h.url_for(attachment, orr_id=6001, entry_id=1355,
filename='SHELLNAIRN08OCT05%20_24_.jpg')
'/attachments/6001/1355/SHELLNAIRN08OCT05%2520_24_.jpg'
Now it double-quoted. Is this a bug or am I using it wrong? My
Quixote application uses %20 for spaces and has never had a problem
finding the images.
My current workaround is to replace the '+' afterward.
url = h.url_for(attachment, orr_id=6001, entry_id=1355,
filename='SHELLNAIRN08OCT05 _24_.jpg') url.replace(+, %20)
'/attachments/6001/1355/SHELLNAIRN08OCT05%20_24_.jpg'
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Re: Enable SSL only for selected controllers
You'll set your app with both a SSL and non-SSL server. Then in your login form you'll set https:// as the POST action. Even better if the login form itself is served as https:// - you can do that by changing the Login url in the HTML but also you can check in the controller that shows the login form if it's a secure and redirect if it isn't. Also, after a successfull login, you can redirect back to the non-SSL site (but are cookies sent by browsers then?) ... you might need to use cookies in URL's instead (for ex. gmail). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sessions - database or filesystem
If you're not clustered, I see no reason to use the filesystem session as it'll be faster. no reason to use or not to use?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mysql database server failover
By master-master you mean each database updates the other when a change comes in? How did you structure that? http://www.howtoforge.com/mysql_master_master_replication MySQL master-master is kind of like bidirectional master-slave. This is supported in version 5.0 and above. In previous version auto- increment collumns would conflict. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Routes: Subdomain won't work with referers (bug?)
If you plan to run the *same* web application for different entities - thus you need different data (icons, templates, db...) in your app - maybe it's better to check for environ['HOST'] in your controllers explicitly, and act acordingly? After a while, I'm sure a pattern will emerge so you could also fold some common code in __before__ or __after__ or in the controller base class. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Pylons + mod_wsgi Oracle
AFAIK you'll have to start httpd with env - ORACLE_HOME=... /usr/sbin/httpd --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Routes 1.8 Release
I don't know the real reason behind this change but for me it feels more natural and elegant to have clean URLs with slashes than using any other caracters =) well the difference is between /some_resource;edit /some_resource;preview etc. and /some_resource/edit now /edit looks like an aditional resource... ;edit otoh looks like a special view of the resource. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Routes 1.8 Release
maybe because of this: http://www.issociate.de/board/post/11276/Forwarding_URL_with_semicolon.html although I don't think Apache is doing the correct thing there... I'll check that later --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running Pylons with PHP
But named virtual hosts won't work if you're using HTTPS. Well, there's a patch for Apache to support that, and nginx also does support the TLS extension for single ip based HTTPS. Firefox 2.0 and IE 7.0 I htink also support this. (the feature is named TLS SNI.. https://sni.velox.ch/ ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Pylons and memory use
cat /proc/pid/status will give you a lot of information about memory usage. ex: ... VmPeak: 2316 kB VmSize: 2212 kB VmLck: 0 kB VmHWM: 940 kB VmRSS: 936 kB VmData: 164 kB VmStk:84 kB VmExe:12 kB VmLib: 1876 kB VmPTE:20 kB ... On Jun 7, 7:57 pm, Jose Galvez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: newbie question - how do you determine how much memeory your app is using, on Linux of course Jose Ben Bangert wrote: On Jun 6, 2008, at 9:43 PM, John Salerno wrote: I was thinking about signing up with a web host that supports Pylons (among many other things) and one of the differences between the various plans is application memory for long-running processes. The plan I'd like to sign up for has 80MB. Does anyone know if this is enough for basic Pylons applications? The PylonsHQ site takes up about 39 megs of memory (25mb on launch, and I cache a bunch of docs to memory which grows it to about 39). I don't see why 80mb wouldn't be enough. Just in general, how exactly can I calculate how much memory a Pylons application (or any other type of application, for that matter) will require? Is there some general range I might be able to rely on? Does 80MB seem like enough for just playing around and hobbyist work? Sure, no problem. PylonsHQ will run for months without budging past 39mb. It's serving up the reference docs right now, and has a Pastebin using a Postgres database via SQLAlchemy. A significantly larger app that I run at the company I'm at peaks a bit higher at 122mb. Cheers, Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mod_wsgi does not check for changed files?
http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ReloadingSourceCode On Jun 27, 9:53 pm, webwurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! If i start a pylons project with paster i can add the parameter -- relaod, so changes to the source code are reflected directly. But i'm using mod_wsdi now and i have to restard apache if i want changes in a python file to take effect! Is there a way that changed files are checked with mod_wsgi? Cheers, webwurst --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is Django more popular than Pylons?
In production, I've gone to always using virtualenvs. Python 2.6 now supports $PYTHONUSERBASE, just set it to a directory (doesn't need to exist), for example: export PYTHONUSERBASE=$HOME/mydev/ pip.py install FormAlchemy Now I do have in ~/.pydistutils.cfg [install] user=True It's similar to virtualenv, but kind-of more clean, and doesn't copy the whole python executable in each env (which I never liked). To switch to another env, just reset the variable. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is Django more popular than Pylons?
Oh, this is the same as the per-user install directory? http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0370/ I thought there could be only one site-packages per user, not multiple ones per application. yes, that's the feature, $PYTHONUSERBASE controls which environment you are using, so you can have as many as you want (the *user* as such doesn't matter any). I've been using it for some time, and looks good to me, haven't seen any problems. It's much cleaner too.. no copies of anything (neither the interpreter, neither the other modules that virtualenv copies or links), no hacks in some other modules. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is Django more popular than Pylons?
Damjan, and does ipython works from $PYTHONUSERBASE? because it doesn't works on virtualenv. If if works then would be another great advantage :) Yes it works. I've just installed the distro version of ipython, and it can import the modules in my USERBASE, no problem. So you don't even need to install it in the virtual environment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Source encoding issues
On Jan 30, 11:36 am, Domen Kožar ielect...@gmail.com wrote: I somewhat figured out that my u'strings' get encoded to latin, even though utf-8 is set as OS locale, vim encoding and python source encoding. After fiddling around, I got that far:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/101978/ Any idea what could trigger such behaviour? You need to put # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- as one of the few first lines in your pytohn files. That way Python knows what encoding your strings are written in. (there's a pep about this too). The interactive python interpreter behaves a little different since it uses the locale when started and assumes strings are written in that locales charset. I guess the Pylons shell doesn't implement this same thing (ipython has the same bug). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Source encoding issues
I know about the pep and how python source files are encoded, but the interactive shell is something completely different. I wonder on what local env variable does shell depend. Since I have all of them either sl_SI.UTF8 or en_GB.UTF-8. The Python interactive shell depends on the locale (LANG or LC_xxx, run locale to see). The paster shell is just buggy I'd say (same as ipython). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: installation has NEVER worked on the first try in two years of using Pylons
I get frustrated every time I setup a new virtualENV as I forgot that something always breaks. For those using Python 2.6*, I'd like to see how much better/worse this sollution is: # starting from scratch, a clean slate: wget https://svn.openplans.org/svn/pip/trunk/pip.py chmod +x pip.py export PYTHONUSERBASE=$HOME/myenv export PATH=$HOME/myenv/bin:$PATH ./pip.py install --install-option=--user Pylons You should get everything installed in $HOME/myenv/lib/python2.6/site- packages and $HOME/myenv/bin I've used it on linux and it never failed me. I wonder how it works on Mac OS X and Windows (since I don't have access to those). I do notice, that I don't get setuptools installed in the USER-BASE, since nothing in Pylons seems to require it, but I do have a recent version (0.6c9) installed system-wide from a distro package. Does Pylons use it on it's own? * This relies on the Python 2.6 feature aka pep-370: http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html#pep-370-per-user-site-packages-directory --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to run pylons (paster) without enter certificate password ?
Is it a simple way to run daemon (paster) using certificate? Before every start of paster I have to enter my 'certificate password'. Maybe is it a parameter to use it in command line? are you talking about a SSL certificate? you can easyly save a non- encripted private key with the openssl tool. But in that case you must make sure nobody could ever make a copy of the .key file. I think the syntax is: openssl -in encrypted.key -out non-enc.key --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Authkit vs repoze.who for openid
SqlAlchemy is not requirement for OpenID but you still need SQL backend for OpenID. I believe that's only limitation of python-openid library which might be already addressed and I am not aware about it. My implementation works properly with MySQL only. I know how to fix SQLite backend but had no time for that yet. I have not tested it with PostgreSQL as well (but I hope it works). I don't see why an OpenID library or middleware would need to have any storage ... can't it just give me the ID of the user, and I could store it in my session or do whatever I choose to do with it!?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Authkit vs repoze.who for openid
2) Your server should remember somehow who and when initiated OpenID request. So it create OpenID session and saves it to database (OpenID session usually is encoded into return URL); I can remember that in the http session (which could be Beakers secure cookie) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mod_wsgi and auth_kit: Login doesn't work
[Fri Jul 17 19:01:43 2009] [error] [client 192.168.1.100] TypeError: sequence of string values expected, value of type literal found, referer:http://192.168.1.100/ This seems like the common error in middleware to not return strings but probably a number in your case. You could try to wrap different middleware (AurhKit?) with wsgiref.validate to check it's conformance to the WSGI standard. http://docs.python.org/library/wsgiref.html#module-wsgiref.validate --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Counting feed subscribers
The only thing I can think of is to put a random number in a query parameter when generating feed URLs. Then the number of active feeds each month would be the count of unique feed numbers. Or is there a better way? route them through feedburner? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-disc...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en.
