Re: [ql-users] Booting QPC2 v3.3 and Hot_Keys and QPACII etc/ New XCH boot
My thanks to you Marcel, Rich and Per for your advice regarding this. The problem is now solved ... though I shall have to follow the sages' advice and get meself updated! It is a **big** boot - with many Procs. It seems that I was clumsy with the SB editor and accidentally renumbered (=relocated) a line of code, when I meant to delete it. Putting that right put things right. I am returning to QDOS after several (unavoidable) years away. I have a new Proc in the (QPC2) boot to call EXCHANGE from a command line. Below is some code that I wrote when I had SMSQ/E on a SGC. The code means nothing to me now however [age!]. Are such parameters/safeguards advisable in the QPC2 environment. Would anyone like to comment please?. 1600 : 1610 DEFine PROCedure XCH 1620 REMark EXECUTE XCHANGE + jgh ++ 1630 REMark If TK2 then 'EX' may be used with param 'n' (as below) 1640 REMark Empirically (by 26 controlled tests in jgh '837K free' system) - 1650 REMark XCHANGE[itself] always grabs 297.5 + (n-64)K [wkg K] THUS - 1660 REMark IF n64 n=64! XCEPT: n=0 XCH grabs some but not allRAM (517K in jgh) 1670 REMark n0, XCH has no cursor!: (n-64) availble RAM, QLlocks up ! 1680 REMark so, Max 'n' for jgh '837K free' system was 535 1690 : 1700 Xmem=750: Xpram$=INT((Xmem-297.5)+64) : REMark Use Notes above 313.5 1710 CLS #0:PRINT #0\\ TO 3;Loading: XCHANGE\ RAM Allocated: ;Xmem;'K' 1720 DATA_USE flp1_: EX XCHANGE;Xpram$: REMark IfNotTK2 useexec, NO param. 1730 CLS #0 1740 : 1750 END DEFine XCH 1760 Can I scrap the parameter detail? - it works (?) now with - 'ex win1_exchange' Regards to all John in Wales (jgh) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/566 - Release Date: 03/12/2006 16:36 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] XChange bug
I fell foul of it today again, after a good half hour's work ;o(( In every version of XChange Ive had there is a bug that makes it hang when I scroll up a file of more than one page, after editing. It usually never happens when I try to trigger it deliberately, of course. Ive tried tracing through reams of code with Jmon, but I cant find out what causes it (I never was a good debugger). The person maintining it (forgot his name, sorry) had never heard of, or encountered it, so he couldnt help. Has anyone else experienced the same? (We could arrange to cry together on some convenient occasion, if you like.) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] XChange bug
I think the bug you are describing ALWAYS occurred in Abacus ... but, did not seem to occur with PC-Abacus ... I also don't recall it occurring with the QXL, so I think it is actually a clock cycle problem (for want of a better/proper description) in the QL-or-68008. The work-around that I used (I only had to lock up the computer a half-dozen times before I figured out what NOT to do!) was to GOTO A1/F5, and then scroll down-and-over to the cell I wanted. Al On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:54:56 - P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I fell foul of it today again, after a good half hour's work ;o(( In every version of XChange Ive had there is a bug that makes it hang when I scroll up a file of more than one page, after editing. It usually never happens when I try to trigger it deliberately, of course. Ive tried tracing through reams of code with Jmon, but I cant find out what causes it (I never was a good debugger). The person maintining it (forgot his name, sorry) had never heard of, or encountered it, so he couldnt help. Has anyone else experienced the same? (We could arrange to cry together on some convenient occasion, if you like.) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] XChange bug
Per Witte wrote: I fell foul of it today again, after a good half hour's work ;o(( In every version of XChange Ive had there is a bug that makes it hang when I scroll up a file of more than one page, after editing. It usually never happens when I try to trigger it deliberately, of course. Ive tried tracing through reams of code with Jmon, but I cant find out what causes it (I never was a good debugger). The person maintining it (forgot his name, sorry) had never heard of, or encountered it, so he couldnt help. Has anyone else experienced the same? (We could arrange to cry together on some convenient occasion, if you like.) Per Assuming you are referring to Xchange Quill, this also occurs in standard Quill and it has happened to me so many times I now routinely save before attempting to scroll upward through text. It might be my imagination, but it seems to happen less frequently in Xchange than in standard Quill. And seems to happen less frequently on a fast system, though that may be a red herring. Years ago, someone tried to explain to me it is because the paragraph table becomes unsynchronised, possibly due to a timing error between the 'jobs' Quill uses as data areas, or immediately after editing the paragraph table is not fully updated. I can't remember, unfortunately, who told me about it, but there was no cure except to avoid scrolling up line by line unless you saved first. My experience being that it never happens immediately after you have saved (sod's law). Where I need to backtrack, I usually Goto a previous page and scroll down, or use search to find a reference rather than backtrack to it, the only workarounds I've known. -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Monitor Connections
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy wood writes: Yeah yeah ( 8 -)# Mind you you are more right than you imagine. There *is* a clock in the office (free from Guinness) but the battery needs replacing (8-)# Does this mean that all of your other clocks have Guinness over them then? For someone who spend a lot of time correcting other people's That should be spends Curses - undone by the speelchucker. Serves me right for making smug remarks. (I don't believe it was intentional on his part as he suggests though.) -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Monitor Connections
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I keep meaning to document all this on my web site, along with all the circuit diagrams etc I have, but I never seem to find the time! It is in your office beside the files! Yeah yeah ( 8 -)# Mind you you are more right than you imagine. There *is* a clock in the office (free from Guinness) but the battery needs replacing (8-)# Does this mean that all of your other clocks have Guinness over them then? For someone who spend a lot of time correcting other people's English you do tend to leave the barn door open sometimes. Ambiguity absolutely intentional! Oh come on! This was a free gift from Guinness. What the excuse? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] XChange bug
Dilwyn Jones writes, I fell foul of it today again, after a good half hour's work ;o(( In Assuming you are referring to Xchange Quill, this also occurs in Silly me! Of course I meant Quill. standard Quill and it has happened to me so many times I now routinely save before attempting to scroll upward through text. It might be my imagination, but it seems to happen less frequently in Xchange than in standard Quill. And seems to happen less frequently on a fast system, though that may be a red herring. I seem to recall that it only started in the last QL version of Quill (v2.01?). Years ago, someone tried to explain to me it is because the paragraph table becomes unsynchronised, possibly due to a timing error between the 'jobs' Quill uses as data areas, or immediately after editing the paragraph table is not fully updated. I can't remember, unfortunately, who told me about it, but there was no cure except to avoid scrolling up line by line unless you saved first. My experience being that it never happens immediately after you have saved (sod's law). Where I need to backtrack, I usually Goto a previous page and scroll down, or use search to find a reference rather than backtrack to it, the only workarounds I've known. Im also very careful and employ similar paranoid workarounds (I even catch myself doing so in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Word), but sooner or later it always gets me - inevitably when its least convenient! If there were just a known address to jump to when this happens (via jmon) then one could at least rescue one's work! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Monitor Connections
Roy Wood writes: Yeah yeah ( 8 -)# Mind you you are more right than you imagine. There *is* a clock in the office (free from Guinness) but the battery needs replacing (8-)# Does this mean that all of your other clocks have Guinness over them then? For someone who spend a lot of time correcting other people's That should be spends Curses - undone by the speelchucker. Serves me right for making smug remarks. (I don't believe it was intentional on his part as he suggests though.) Ive always found that ones most vulnerable when criticising others from a position of smugness. Lifes so unfair! I think we may safely predict than anyone sending their QL to Tony for repair is unlikely to get it back free from Guinness! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Monitor Connections
Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy wood writes: Yeah yeah ( 8 -)# Mind you you are more right than you imagine. There *is* a clock in the office (free from Guinness) but the battery needs replacing (8-)# Does this mean that all of your other clocks have Guinness over them then? For someone who spend a lot of time correcting other people's That should be spends Curses - undone by the speelchucker. Serves me right for making smug remarks. (I don't believe it was intentional on his part as he suggests though.) You can believe what you like, but it was (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Monitor Connections
P Witte wrote: snip I think we may safely predict than anyone sending their QL to Tony for repair is unlikely to get it back free from Guinness! Indeed! They had an offer where you got a Guinness clock free after consuming a number of cans. They built it up as if it was a work of art. It was just an ordinary battery quartz (of course) with a printed logo. It is permanently 9:40 as I can't be bothered to change the battery! At least it means my QL repairs are always done on time! and I *did* know it was ambiguous (Roy). It was one of those nice ones that are good to leave just for the post-banter, like SMS T9 worng words (and that was intentionally left too!). I sent a text from a bar in Madrid. This was the day before the QL 'show' with Marcel and Jochen and one punter. I was eating a *real* paella with all sorts of interesting goodies, including little crabs. It proved impossible to find *any* meat and I reckon they were just there to look good. I sent a text to a friend - we have got into the habit of texting from far-flung bars around the world - I am fighting the arabs. Just before carol singing at the Rex cinema in Berkhamsted last year, I sent a text to Janet (fellow singer) asking what time we were due, and she replied Sex at 7:30 and realised only as it was being sent! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
