Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

[matrassyl--- via Ql-Users]

Hi Lee, If booting from a Win drive  on the first instance of needing to load 
the Turbo toolkit check for the existence of a file on the boot device called 
"TTKLoaded", or similar. If the file does not exist create it and load TurboTK. 
If the file is found to exist do not load the toolkit. At the end of the 
session tidy up the boot device by deleting this file. Not elegant but 
practical.

Duncan

 

 

 

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From: Lee Privett via Ql-Users 
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CC: Lee Privett 
Sent: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 18:14
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

Perhaps I should clarify this a little further.Using Q-emuLator, my boot first 
loads SMSQ_QEM and restarts with the sameboot, I will always do this or use 
QPC2, I am not really looking for a BBQLsolution as it is development for other 
things.Where this[code]IF VER$<>"HBA" THEN   LRESPR "WIN8_SMSQ_QEM"END 
IF[/code]loads SMSQ and fails the second time around (as designed, so all good) 
asthe same boot loads again, I then load (still in the same boot) 
theTURBO_SMS_CODE appropriate for SMSQ based system.This is all fine, however, 
I am developing the boot for different setupsand change them a lot depending on 
what project I decide to work on.This means re-running the boot several times 
in the one session to testwhat I am trying to do and I don't want to keep using 
up space re-LRESPRthe TURBO toolkit.Using another toolkit to test for the 
existence of a keyword in the TURBOtoolkit would then mean using another method 
to test for that additionalToolkit, a catch 22.So I may try the WHEN_ERR method 
as soon as I find the documentation on it.LeeLeeOn Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:49 
AM, Derek Stewart via Ql-Users  wrote:> Hi Tobias,>> 
The WHEN solution is great, but on some version of QODS, the WHEN ERRor> did 
not work.>> There are some people still using AH,JM, roms which may have 
problems with> WHEN ERRor>> --> Regards,>> Derek>>> On 17/08/17 10:39, Tobias 
Fröschle via Ql-Users wrote:>>> After I sent this, I realised a bit of 
explanation might be in order, as>> WHEN ERRor is not so well-known: When 
the interpreter passes a WHEN ERRor/END WHEN pair during normal>> program 
execution, it doesn't do anything with the commands inside the>> clause but 
remembering "I should do this in case an error occurs". So, line>> 1020 is not 
executed if no error occurs in line 1050. But in case there is>> an error (the 
interpreter choking on the MANIFEST statement it doesn't know>> when TT is not 
loaded), line 1020 is executed, telling us TT is not loaded. After 1020 was 
executed, the program is continued at the point /after/>> the error 
occurred. The empty WHEN ERRor clause (1060-1070) simply de-activates 
error>> processing back to "normal". Line 1080 will thus have the variable 
TurboTkLoaded to 1, if 1050 was>> executed without a problem, and set to 0 in 
case there was an error.>> Because we have made sure line 1050 is the only line 
that can be executed>> while error processing is active, we clearly know the 
only problem in 1050>> can only be "bad name". So it is important to pick a 
"test command" from>> the toolkit you are testing for that cannot choke on a 
different error than>> "bad name". MANIFEST is pretty ideal for this. 
Tobias Am 17.08.2017 um 11:25 schrieb Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users <>>> 
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:>> Lee,>> there are a number of toolkits that 
allow you to check for specific>>> other toolkit commands loaded or not - But 
this is a bit useless as it>>> leaves you with a chicken-and-egg problem: How 
to check whether the>>> checking toolkit is loaded?>> Your best bet on 
SMSQ/E would be a WHEN ERRor clause you place just in>>> front of a Toolkit 
command you are about to execute:>> 1000 TurboTkLoaded = 1>>> 1010 WHEN 
ERRor>>> 1020TurboTkLoaded = 0>>> 1030 END WHEN>>> 1040 REMark Execute a 
Toolkit command>>> 1050 MANIFEST : x = 100>>> 1055 REMark de-activate error 
checker>>> 1060 WHEN ERRor>>> 1070 END WHEN>>> 1080 PRINT "Turbo Toolkit 
loaded:"!TurboTkLoaded>> On a QL with non-working WHEN ERRor commands 
(pre-MG) you are a bit>>> doomed, the only thing I could probably come up with 
is writing a BASIC>>> program that PEEKs the name list, which is not quite so 
simple.>> Tobias> Am 17.08.2017 um 10:49 schrieb Lee Privett via 
Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>: I originally posted this on 
the forum: Hi community, I have searched for this on the forum but 
cannot find an entry but I am sure this has been asked before. I 
currently test for the presence of the HBA ROM in a boot program using VER$ 
and would like to test for other toolkits, specifically the TURBO toolkit. 
Is there a way to do this automatically in a boot so that when subsequent 
runs of the boot it is not loaded again in one 

Re: [Ql-Users] EXEP_W

[matrassyl--- via Ql-Users]

Hi Michael, I haven't used FEP myself but It looks as if what you propose could 
work, although I don`t understand why you would need to check job priority, job 
owner, and job name to check if it is still running. Wouldn't NXJOB(id) which 
returns -1 if the job dosn't exist be sufficient and simpler?

Best Wishes
 

 Duncan

 

 

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From: Michael Bulford via Ql-Users 
To: ql-users ; ql-users-request 

Sent: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 22:59
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] EXEP_W

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017, Duncan wrote:

Question : are you using QDOS or smsqe? with smsqe it should be possible to 
create a wrapper basic executable program that will EXEP "task; parameters" 
then continue to run and check the jobs list (you will know the task name) 
until the task it EXEP has finished before continuing with what you want to do 
next.
Hi Duncan,
Thanks for your suggestion, I did think of that idea.
Also, I have found FEP(...) which returns the id of the job created.
So, I'm guessing I could do something along these lines ...
id = FEP(etc)
REPeat wait
SUSPEND_TASK 25
IF PJOB(id)=0  : IF OJOB(id)=0  : IF JOB$(id)="" : EXIT wait
END REPeat wait
I haven't tried this yet. Doing it this way, the task name would not need to be 
known.
Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] Q-Bar software

[matrassyl]

Hi, to add to that works fine on SMSQmulator on RPi2 as well.

Cheers 

Duncan

 

 

 

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From: Wolf 
To: ql-users 
Sent: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:19
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Q-Bar software

Hi,

thanks, works fine under SMSQmulator.

Wolfgang



On 02/07/2016 01:33 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
> I've released a new freeware program called Q-Bar, which implements a taskbar 
> and start menu system for SMSQ/E v3 and QDOS with pointer environment version 
> 2.00 or later.
>
> Further details on my blog at https://dilwyn2.wordpress.com/
>
> Dilwyn Jones
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[matrassyl]

Thanks very helpful. Cheers
 

 

 

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From: Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk>
To: ql-users <ql-us...@q-v-d.com>; matrassyl <matras...@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 21:59
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard 
USB interface)


Front this thread: 
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=81=101543 it looks like 
oracle java 8 has been installed in Raspbian since the 15th Feb 2015 release.

HTH

Cheers, 
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[matrassyl]

Hi,

As Wolfgang suggested I used Thierry Godefroys QL program to measure bogomips 
under SMSQE. RPi2 "native noobs boot" gets ~38.40 bogomips under linux (xterm - 
and cat /proc/cpuinfo) which is roughly what you got.

When I asked about java I am aware of 2 versions or java on RPi, there is the 
freeware java v7 which it seems you have installed as I have and there is 
oracle java v7 which I read somewhere handled floating point numbers better. I 
will try it later. I dont think java v8 is on RPi yet. Over clocking RPi 2 this 
afternoon using the Xwindows menu options to a processor speed of 1Ghz 
increased the bogomips under SMSQE to 2.76 with a 1024x768 window and 2.81 with 
a window of 512x256. All of this is in 16 bit colours. Also there are the 
Xwindows apps over heads that may make a difference to the speed of 
SMSQmulator. I plan to look in to the possibility of configuring a minimal boot 
of Xwindows with only SMSQmulator running to get a bit more speed, If you have 
done this already let me know how as I am at the stage of reading up about how 
to do this in linux.

Wolfgang even at ~2.53 bogomips it is still useful, bit like a Goldcard running 
SMSQE. The RPi B without over clocking gets only 2 bogomips under linux and 
thats without Xwindows running in the background, no wonder SMSQmulator is not 
worth the effort with RPi B. Even anything complicated like internet browsing 
with a basic RPi B is like watching a game load from tape to a 48k Spectrum.

 
Duncan

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Marcos Cruz 
To: ql-users 
Sent: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 17:16
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard 
USB interface)

En/Je/On 2016-02-05 15:23, Wolfgang Lenerz escribió / skribis / wrote :

> in general it's best to use the latest version of java. The JIT has been
> improving from version to version, generally making the latest versions
> the fastest.

I still have to investigate how to install Oracle Java 8 on Rasbian.

> >> I got 2.53 bogomips for SMSQmulator with the basic RPi2 setup.
> 
> Ugh.

> I think Duncan meant a Bogomips under Smsqe.

Thanks. Done. I run it several times, and got 2.61, 2.60, 2.61, 2.61...

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[matrassyl]

Which version of Java have you installed? Have you overclocked the RPi2 and 
does it speed up SMSQmulator significantly. I got 2.53 bogomips for SMSQmulator 
with the basic RPi2 setup.

Cheers

Duncan

 

 

 

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From: Marcos Cruz 
To: ql-users 
Sent: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 15:21
Subject: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB 
interface)

En/Je/On 2016-02-04 09:29, matras...@aol.com escribió / skribis / wrote :

> Spent a bit of this morning setting up SMSQmulator on the RPi 2. It
> seems to be usable so far.

Yes, it's fast enough to be usable. It's the only QL emulator I use, I
never succeded in compiling or executing uQLx-arm on RPi, but anyway
SMSQmulator is more interesting for me as development platform.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

[matrassyl]

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the reply. After the previous responses I have bought one myself. I 
got it yesterday but have not used it yet, but very fast delivery and it looks 
like a well made bit of kit. Spent a bit of this morning setting up SMSQmulator 
on the RPi 2. It seems to be usable so far.

Cheers

Duncan



 

 

 

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From: Ian Burkinshaw 
To: ql-users 
Sent: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 17:56
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

Hi Duncan

Just purchased said interface from Tynemouth Software.

It does work on a PC QL emulators like QPC2, not tried on a Rasberry-PI yet, 
but see no reason why it should not work. On my PC, in the hardware list it 
returns as a HID (Human Interface Device) Keyboard Device, as I would 
expect, which is the same as any other keyboard device.

By the way, it also works with your normal keyboard still active, if 
connected.

Hope that helps.

Ian
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Graham" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface


> On 31/01/2016 09:14, "matras...@aol.com"  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone on this list come across this interface which links the QL 
>> keyboard
>> membrane to a USB connector to allow the keyboard to be used as a USB 
>> keyboard
>> for say a RPi or other system running a QL emulation. Does anyone know if 
>> if
>> works?
>>
>> Duncan
>>
>>
> http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2015/12/day-3-sinclair-ql-usb-keyboard.htm>
>
> Hi Duncan,
>
> I know Dave @ Tynemouth and have a couple of his PET addons, if the 
> keyboard
> interface is of the same quality then it'll be sweet. He has the boards
> professionally made and hand-solders the components, the original
> keymappings were also hand-coded so there shouldn't be any problems.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- 
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[Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

[matrassyl]

Hello,

Has anyone on this list come across this interface which links the QL keyboard 
membrane to a USB connector to allow the keyboard to be used as a USB keyboard 
for say a RPi or other system running a QL emulation. Does anyone know if if 
works?

Duncan

http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2015/12/day-3-sinclair-ql-usb-keyboard.html
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Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

[matrassyl]

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for that reassurance. I think I will try one.
Cheers

Duncan

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Graham 
To: ql-users 
Sent: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:43
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

On 31/01/2016 09:14, "matras...@aol.com"  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Has anyone on this list come across this interface which links the QL keyboard
> membrane to a USB connector to allow the keyboard to be used as a USB keyboard
> for say a RPi or other system running a QL emulation. Does anyone know if if
> works?
> 
> Duncan
> 
> 
http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2015/12/day-3-sinclair-ql-usb-keyboard.htm>

Hi Duncan,

I know Dave @ Tynemouth and have a couple of his PET addons, if the keyboard
interface is of the same quality then it'll be sweet. He has the boards
professionally made and hand-solders the components, the original
keymappings were also hand-coded so there shouldn't be any problems.

Cheers,

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

[matrassyl]

Thanks Lee, I saw that. A ready constructed interface is probably easier for me.
 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Lee Privett 
To: ql-users 
Sent: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 11:49
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

http://www.deblauweschicht.nl/tinkering/tinkering.html

homemade version

Lee




On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Adrian Graham <
wit...@binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:

> On 31/01/2016 09:14, "matras...@aol.com"  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Has anyone on this list come across this interface which links the QL
> keyboard
> > membrane to a USB connector to allow the keyboard to be used as a USB
> keyboard
> > for say a RPi or other system running a QL emulation. Does anyone know
> if if
> > works?
> >
> > Duncan
> >
> >
>
> http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2015/12/day-3-sinclair-ql-usb-keyboard.htm
> >
>
> Hi Duncan,
>
> I know Dave @ Tynemouth and have a couple of his PET addons, if the
> keyboard
> interface is of the same quality then it'll be sweet. He has the boards
> professionally made and hand-solders the components, the original
> keymappings were also hand-coded so there shouldn't be any problems.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Adrian/Witchy
> Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
> Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
> collection?
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[Ql-Users] Quanta Web site down?

[matrassyl]

The Quanta site has been down for at least 2 days. Has Quanta closed down?

Regards

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Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

[matrassyl]

`1234567890-=!£$%^*()_+€!£$%^*()_+

Same test Windows 7 and QPC2 with smsq/e 3.13

Does not look like a general problem


Duncan

 

 


 

 

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From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Tue, 31 May 2011 23:00
Subject: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII


Using Win7 on a new Toshiba laptop running QPCII now throws up this

problem, which works perfectly well under Windows and also in

Q-emulator



 



 



Pressing all the top keys my keyboard now displays this under QPCII

only



 



1234567890-q



1234567890-q  with the right shift key



!£$%^*()_Q with the left shift key



 



instead of



 



1234567890-=



!£$%^*()_+ with the right shift key



!£$%^*()_+ with the left shift key



 



similar things happen with other lines with the rightmost keys giving

the problem and I am unable to get the # @ at all (no pun intended) so

what gives? 



 



I am using country code 44, I see no other tweeks L



 



 



For your information, digestion and action where relevant, thankyou



Lee



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Re: [Ql-Users] Which is the last issue of Quanta Magazine?

[matrassyl]

Last I have is volume 28 issue 2 March 2011

Duncan

 

 


 

 

-Original Message-
From: Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar miguel.an...@zxprojects.com
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:27
Subject: [Ql-Users] Which is the last issue of Quanta Magazine?


As I haven't received any new issues from February, I can't remember if my 
suscription just ended, or it's just that there haven't been any new issues 
since then. 
 
The last issue I have is VOLUME 28, ISSUE 1, FEBRUARY 2011. 
 
The Quanta website shows it's in maintenance mode, so I cannot check this 
there. 
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] screen detection

[matrassyl]

 Hi Lee,

There may be something in a PD toolkit but I am not aware of any. Once I wrote 
a screen saver with bouncing disks that bounced off the screen and each other. 
Collision detection was through keeping track of things the disks might hit in 
a table. Check table and update every time a disk was used. It was written in 
C. Here are 2 bits of SBASIC code one for detecting screen colour mode 8 (pore) 
and one for placing a pixel in screen coordinates (peer). Both from an 
excellent guide to SuperBasic by Donald Alcock. A useful book with examples if 
you can get a copy.

Regards

 
100 DEFine FuNction PEER(x,y)
110 LOCal a,p%,q%,shift%
120 a=131072+128*y+2*(x DIV 4)
130 shift%=2^(6-2*(x MOD 4))
140 p%=PEEK(a) DIV shift%
150 q%=PEEK(a+1) DIV shift%
160 RETurn(p%1)*8||(p%2)*2||(q%3)
170 END DEFine
 
100 DEFine PROCedure PORE(x,y,pixel)
110 LOCal a,b%,q%,m%
120 a=131072+128*y+2*(x DIV 4)
130 IF a131072 OR a=163840 : RETurn 
140 p%=(pixel4) DIV 2||(pixel8) DIV 8
150 q%=pixel3
160 shift%=2^(6-2*(x MOD 4))
170 m%=~~(3*shift%)
180 POKE a,(PEEK(a)m%)||p%*shift%
190 POKE a+1,(PEEK(a+1)m%)||q%*shift%
200 END DEFine




 

 

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From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011 18:49
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] screen detection


Weird it may be but unless there is some other sprite software I am not

aware of (DPs I am having problems with), I do not know how to detect

graphic collision without looking at the screen directly, unless there is

another way? I don't know enough m/c to program in only S*Basic



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[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Computer Research

Centrum, Ltd

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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] screen detection





 The Spectrum had PLOT x,y ( I think) for switching on a pixel and the 

 function POINT x,y for returning a value



 Obviously the QL has POINT which plots, so PEEK?



No inbuilt function, although various have been written, e.g. there is 

one in DIY Toolkit somewhere.



It is weird to use screen as input device.

 

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Re: [Ql-Users] Some good news on Ser-USB

[matrassyl]

 That is great news. 



Thanks Duncan





There will be an announcement at the beginning of May on the availability of

the hardware and its pricing, before which I will be in touch with anyone

who has already enquired about purchasing a Ser-USB.
 

 





 

 


 

 

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From: Adrian Ives adr...@acanthis.co.uk
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:25
Subject: [Ql-Users] Some good news on Ser-USB


Thanks to Rich Mellor, who managed to source a Hermes chip, I can now

confirm that the Ser-USB will work on a standard QL fitted with Hermes at

speeds up to 19200 baud.  It is still necessary to load the asynchronous I/O

module (the Queue Manager), though.  This takes up an extra 5K of RAM.



 



It had been my intention to withdraw support for the Ser-USB on standard QL

hardware, but after receiving some feedback on that, I went back to the code

to see if there was anything that could be done to at least create something

that was stable enough to be used with some limitations in that environment.

I believe that effort has been successful; this was the result:



 



- The problem of executable files being corrupted when read back using

asynchronous I/O has been fixed, after eventually having been traced to some

erroneous pointer arithmetic.



- Out of order Trap #3 requests no longer cause the driver to abort.

Instead, the driver attempts to gracefully bring the abandoned request to

completion, deferring any other pending requests until the process is

completed.



 



Both of these issues only affected asynchronous I/O, but when combined they

made the driver unreliable on systems that required that functionality.



 



Many thanks to everyone who pointed me at the SimSer serial driver as a

possible solution.  I did spend some time looking at this, but as it only

enhances the functionality of the unidirectional channels (SRX and STX) I

was not able to immediately make use of its capabilities without quite a bit

of rewriting.  It does have some very useful features, though, and I will

look at providing support for them in a later version of the driver.



 



So . Ser-USB will be supported on base QL hardware, after all.  However,

without Hermes or (better still) superHermes you will be limited to 4800

baud.



 



There will be an announcement at the beginning of May on the availability of

the hardware and its pricing, before which I will be in touch with anyone

who has already enquired about purchasing a Ser-USB.



 



 



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Re: [Ql-Users] CD-ROM drivers for the Q40

[matrassyl]

Try http://morloch.hd.free.fr/qdos/download.html#TOP. 
 
Regards

Duncan

 


 

 

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From: Anton Preinsack a.preins...@preinsackfilm.com
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Sent: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 22:47
Subject: [Ql-Users] CD-ROM drivers for the Q40


I am looking for CD-ROM drivers for the Q40 (after a longer break I have time 
now to play around with my Q40 again ;-) ). Is there a place to download? 
 
Thanks! 
 
Anton 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QUORUM

[matrassyl]

The quorum refers to the number present, not to the number voting.


Actually not just the number present but the roles of the individuals as well. 
For example a quorum may specify an number of office holders and specifically 
which offices as well as the total number of members present to make the 
meeting valid and authorised to make decisions on behalf of an organisation. 


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Re: [Ql-Users] File transfers

[matrassyl]

Problem is endian. My recollection is Qx0 hard disk format is pretty much 
QXLwin except that QXLwin on a PC is organised in the PC byte order

Duncan

 

 


 

 

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From: Tobias Fröschle tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
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Sent: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:28
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] File transfers


Am Mittwoch, den 09.02.2011, 21:12 + schrieb Norman Dunbar:

  http://qxlwin.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qxlwin/?view=tar

 

 to download source code for QXLWin a cross platform that allows you to

 open a qxl.win file and extract files.

 



If I remember right, QLay (and its derivatives) had a program to access

QXL.WIN files from Windows. The problem in the first place is, I very

much doubt the Q40 is able to produce QXL.win files. And, if it were,

how would you get the file from here to there.



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Re: [Ql-Users] USBWiz Driver Update

[matrassyl]

Hi Adrian I also would be very interested in a commercial product of this. 

Regards

Duncan

 

 


 

 

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Sent: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:13
Subject: [Ql-Users] USBWiz Driver Update




So, my question is this: Is anyone actually interested in me devoting more

time to finish this project? If (and it is still an if) the driver can be

brought to a release-stable state, is there interest in a commercial product

based around this?



 



 



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Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

[matrassyl]

 

 Hi Geoff,

I see you have been answered already with several legally based opinions.


The problem with your question is that it is not factually valid. It states 
that there definitely has been a breach of the constitution. To establish that 
as a fact rather than opinion you will need to get a judicial review. Do you 
think that this will be a good use of Quanta's time and money?

 
As to the now hypothetical cheque, as the club rules regarding the status of 
the individual had been interpreted that the individual was correctly 
appointed, if the cheque was signed by the individual in the honest belief that 
they had the right to do so and the cheque was honoured by the club in the 
honest belief that the individual had the right to sign the cheque and there 
was no evidence of fraud in the criminal sense in the use of the cheque then 
the simple answer is yes and should any redress be needed should there have 
been an honest mis-interpretation of rules this should be sought within the 
rules of the club in the first instance.

Duncan


 

 

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Sent: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:24
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer


 
-- 
From: matras...@aol.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:49 PM 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer 
 
 Hi Geoff, 
 
 Suggest you look up transactional analysis in google especially critical  
 parent and willful child roles. 
 
 In law in the UK there is a differentiation between criminal and civil  law. 
 Any perceived violations of Quanta's constitution will fall in to  civil 
 law, unless you are suggesting fraud according to the criminal  definition 
 of this. If not then if there is a legal case to be made  because of some 
 injury, someone, an individual or group of individuals,  needs to sue. It 
 seems on this list at the moment only you feel there is a  case to be made. 
 The question then is are you going to sue Quanta. If not  then what is your 
 purpose. 
 
 
Answer a simple question, but the answer has to be not as a layman would answer 
but as a lawyer would answer: 
 
Can a person who has been appointed treasurer of Quanta in a breach of the 
constitution - a legally binding document - legally sign cheques under British 
law? 
 
Best Wishes, 
 
Geoff 
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Hi Geoff,

Suggest you look up transactional analysis in google especially critical parent 
and willful child roles. 

In law in the UK there is a differentiation between criminal and civil law. Any 
perceived violations of Quanta's constitution will fall in to civil law, unless 
you are suggesting fraud according to the criminal definition of this. If not 
then if there is a legal case to be made because of some injury, someone, an 
individual or group of individuals, needs to sue. It seems on this list at the 
moment only you feel there is a case to be made. The question then is are you 
going to sue Quanta. If not then what is your purpose.

Kind Regards

Duncan 


 

 


 

 

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Sent: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:42
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer


But this is a discussion we should have had a year ago when I first posted on 
this issue. 
 
And in reply to your private email - no I'm not angry, 
 
Best Wishes, 
 
 
Geoff 
 
PS Guess who I have upset by posting this at the top! 
 
-- 
From: John Gilpin thegilp...@btinternet.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:15 PM 
To: ql-users ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Subject: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer 
 
 Having read with interest Geoff Wicks' musings about the errors in  QUANTA's 
 ways, I would like to give you all, the facts that both me and  the QUANTA 
 Committee considered to be in accordance with the current (at  that time) 
 QUANTA Constitution. 
 
 I joined the QUANTA Committee in April 2001 - see copy of the minutes of  
 the A. G. M. for that year - as an ordinary Committee member and was asked  
 to take on the duties of (head) librarian - there being no other  librarians 
 anyway. 
 
 At the A. G. M. in the following year - 2002 - following the resignation  of 
 both Bill Newell and John Taylor I was nominated as Treasurer to the  QUANTA 
 Committee - a post that was amalgamated with that of Membership  Secretary - 
 two posts that were seen to be connected by the payment of  subscription and 
 the handling of QUANTA funds. 
 
 Similarly, the posts of Software Controller and Librarian were also  
 combined - a post undertaken by the then Software Controller John Gregory  
 which meant that I relinquished my previous role of Librarian. 
 
 Early in 2005, QUANTA Committee discussed and then decided that moves  ought 
 to be put in place to limit the length of time served by committee  members 
 (Officers and Ordinary members) with the result that members were  asked to 
 approve Special Resolution No. 1 (Changes to clause 5 of the  QUANTA 
 Constitution) at the A. G. M. in April 2005. The original  discussions on 
 this topic came from comments heard that the QUANTA  Committee were getting 
 stale and had nothing further to offer.The  Resolution was approved and the 
 Constitution was duly updated and  re-issued to all members in February 2006 
 as Issue 2 Revision 0. This  revision was deemed to be effective from that 
 date. 
 
 At the date of the A. G. M. 2009, both John Mason (Chairman) and John  
 Gilpin (Treasurer), under the new clause 5 of the constitution were due to  
 stand down and in accordance with Clause 5.5 they, JM  JG, by agreement  
 decided that John Mason would stand down since he had served slightly  
 longer than John Gilpin on the Committee without a break. 
 
 The following year (April 2010), having served continuously on the  
 committee since 2001, (over 6 years) and as an officer since 2002 (over  
 three years), John Gilpin tendered his resignation from the committee  
 (under clauses 5.2 and 5.4 of the constitution). At this point, April  2010, 
 John Gilpin's QUANTA membership status reverted to that of Ordinary  
 Member.There were no nominations for the post of Treasurer/Membership  
 Secretary and  immediately following the A. G. M. the new committee held a  
 meeting where they co-opted John Gilpin (Ordinary Member) onto the  
 committee under clause 5.8. By agreement of all concerned, John Gilpin was  
 asked to carry out the duties of Treasurer/Membership Secretary until The  
 Next A. G. M. - see clause 5.8. - to see if anyone had decided to take on  
 this role. 
 
 One has to pay quite a lot of money to have clauses drafted which are word  
 perfect with no errors and/or ambiguities by a professional and the  
 committee having submitted the Special resolution approved at the AGM in  
 2005 to it's members and having not received any requests to amend the  same 
 the then committee deemed that the suggested modifications were  adequate 
 for the purpose intended - to limit the time served on the  committee to six 
 continuous years for ordinary committee members of which  not more than 
 three continuous years may be served as an officer 
 
 With all Geoff Wicks' working experience as an officer of the British law  
 Courts, surely he could 

[Ql-Users] Need for Speed

[matrassyl]

 

 Hi, I posted on this last a few years ago. I am in the processing of 
completing a build of a new PC. One check I use is to see how many bogomips I 
can get from QPC2. On my last system Windows XP, Core 2 duo 2.4Ghz, 2 GB RAM 
etc I got around the 150 bogomips level, just less than a Q60 68060 80MHz 48MB 
with manages 156. 

With the new PC QPC2 finally trounces 1998 QL type hardware emulation achieving 
220 bogomips. PS is Core i7 3.09GHz, 6GB RAM Windows 7.

QPC2 version is the same 3.33. Is there a 64bit version of QPC2 able to utilize 
multicore PC processors?

Duncan


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Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie

[matrassyl]

Actually there is quite a bit that can be done to enhance ED. Al Boehm 
published in Quanta magazine April 2002 a DO file to move blocks of superbasic 
under ED. Simon Goodwin wrote an extension called, I think, LDEF to enhance ED 
by accessing procedures and functions by name, and finally he also wrote a 
clipboard program and extension that allowed copying and pasting into 
Superbasic ED and other tasks. Mark Knight tweaked this program and published 
an update. i expect the Dilwyn's repository will have all these programs.

Regards

 

 Duncan


 

 

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Sent: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:24
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Question from a re-newbie




On 13 Dec 2010, at 07:35, John Sadler wrote:



 You can use cut  paste in editor.

 If I remember correctly you select an area, yank itinto a buffer and then put 

 it back into a new place

 

 John

 

 On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:26, Malcolm Cadman wrote:

 In message 4d00f65a.9070...@t-online.de, Tobias Fröschle

 tobias.froesc...@t-online.de writes

 

 Am 09.12.2010 15:50, schrieb Rich Mellor:

 On 09/12/2010 14:44, Lee Privett wrote:

 Ed (Toolkit II) is a great editor but in coming back to the QL I

 would have thought someone would have come up with a couple of useful

 tweaks by now.

 

 Such as the ability to copy and paste within the editing window and

 using the mouse to put the cursor just where I want it, instead of

 several arrow direction taps to get there.

 

 Any ideas?

 

 

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 I guess no one enhanced Ed any further, as people moved onto using

 tools such as Digital Precision's The Editor, or the even better QD

 editor from Jochen Merz if they wanted to be able to do this sort of

 thing.

 

 Yep, that's just about right. I find myself rarely using ed nowadays,

 even for plain SBASIC programming. QD2 with its feature to remove and

 add line numbers on the fly makes editing (and properly formatting)

 programs much easier.

 I use ED only for small corrections/amendments when actually compiling.

 

 Tobias

 

 Hi,

 

 There is an enhanced version of The Editor, after DP folded.

 

 Probably available on a Mr Jones's web site ... :-)

 



ED has neither cut nor paste!



As Wolfgang wrote - use F10 to grab a line.



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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

[matrassyl]

 


Finally, I am surprised that no one has yet written a RELIABLE version of 
EXTRAS as a stand alone tool to enable the name list to be investigated - 
or perhaps they have? If it was called EXTRAS would it overwrite the TK2 
EXTRAS? 
 

 Hi John, The VOCAB extension is part of SNG's DIY toolkit. It was written he 
says due to the deficiencies of EXTRAS.
Only 276 bytes and reports on all or any of the 10 types of name table entry. 
Described in QL World September 1992.

Regards

Duncan


 

 

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Sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:09
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries


I am grateful to all who have contributed to this thread. Your advice has been 
taken on board and I now feel confident in re-writing my BOOT program(s). I 
shall be working on the following premises:- 
 
The BOOT program should be a number of small SuperBASIC programs each one 
performing a specific simple task and linked to the next one using the LRUN 
command. This is to ensure that the whole of the BOOT process is carried out by 
Job0. (I understand that when a SB program is LOADed it becomes resident in 
memory and is allocated Job0. If another SB program (say BOOT2) is then 
called at the end of BOOT, then BOOT is deleted from memory and is replaced 
by BOOT2 and being then resident, BOOT2 becomes Job0 - and so on with 
BOOT3, BOOT4 etc) I think that my BOOT sequence would look something like 
this:- 
 
BOOT - Choose the Operating System required and load same. (QDOS OR SMSQ) [if 
QDOS is selected then do nothing since QDOS is the native OS whereas if SMSQ is 
selected, LRESPR SMSQ_GOLD) - LRUN BOOT2 
 
BOOT2 - check whether the required toolkits and extensions are loaded 
(LRESPRd) and if not, load (LRESPR) them generally in line with the sequence 
advised by Dilwyn (FROM Job0!!). LRUN BOOT3 
 
BOOT3 - Check and adjust time and date if required. LRUN BOOT4 
 
BOOT4 - Offer a menu of programs available within my 'system' - i.e. {A} 
Genealogy (database manipulation, building Family Trees, Write details of 
family members as a Word Processor Document - ours is a family HISTORY project 
rather than just a family TREE). {B} QUANTA Membership records (Membership 
address database, Mailing labels programs etc), {C}. etc. ...{R} Return to 
the command line in whichever OS is current. LRUN or EX the file(s) associated 
with the selection OR restore any windows, and other user settings etc to 
switch-on state and STOP. 
 
Queries:-   on my QLs (Aurora, SGC, QuBide, etc.) TK2 is loaded automatically 
at power-on (AUTOTK2F1 command), the file BOOT is located, LOADed and runs 
automatically. Are the EXTRAS within TK2 LRESPRd in the same manner as if TK2 
were LRESPRd from either the command line or from within a boot program? OR are 
they 'loaded' some other way which may cause some or all of them to go missing? 
 
  LRESPR SMSQ_GOLD causes the machine to RESET following which it 
initialises again. Does this RESET remove TK2 from memory and is TK2 then 
automatically reloaded again? File BOOT is then run again and only LRUNs 
BOOT2 (since AFAIK there is no way of changing from SMSQ to QDOS without 
manually RESETing the machine). Since it obviously takes some time to activate 
TK2 (automatically or otherwise) would it be quicker to load TK2 along with all 
the other required extension (in BOOT2) provided no TK2 EXTRAS are required 
before then? 
 
   When a SB program is EXECd (from SMSQ) I have noticed that it too 
becomes resident in the same way as an LRUN SB program. Does this mean that the 
EXECd program also becomes Job0? 
 
  Can anyone see why this sequence of programs {which I am confident will 
run on both QDOS and SMSQ on the Auroras} should not run exactly the same under 
QPC2 on my Vista PCs? (which is the original point I raised with my existing 
programs). 
 
And if no one wants to put together an article for the magazine, I may even 
have a shot myself. Thanks for all the material for this. 
 
Finally, I am surprised that no one has yet written a RELIABLE version of 
EXTRAS as a stand alone tool to enable the name list to be investigated - or 
perhaps they have? If it was called EXTRAS would it overwrite the TK2 
EXTRAS? 
 
Cheers for now, 
 
John Gilpin. 
 
 
gdgqler wrote: 
 On 17 Nov 2009, at 21:34, Dilwyn Jones wrote: 
 
Also, in one of my past articles, I wrote about the Name List in 
 SuperBasic (QL Today I mean) and gave a demo of how to list everything 
 in the name list. 
 
 Might help? 
Turbo Toolkit also has a function to help step through name table 
 entries, I think I used it in my Basic Reporter program. Could be used to 
 write your own EXTRAS perhaps. 
  
 Turbo Toolkit has the function BASIC_INDEX%(name$). This gives the position 
 of the keyword name$ in the BASIC Table if present. If the keyword is not 
 present it returns -12 which is invalid name. This is a useful way of 
 

Re: [Ql-Users] Compatible LCD monitor for Q40/Q60 ?

[matrassyl]

 Hi Thierry

I too would like a LCD monitor for the Q60 but I have not found a suitable one 
yet. If you find one please let me know.#

Duncan

 

 

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To: ql-users ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:38
Subject: [Ql-Users] Compatible LCD monitor for Q40/Q60 ?


Greetings,

My last CRT SVGA monitor just died (HV transformer fried: no hope of
repair) and my current LCD monitor is unable to display the Q40/Q60
resolution (1024x512) properly (it apparently tries to interpolates
the 1024 columns into 640 and it displays only the first 480 lines).

Is anyone using a recent (must be available for sale now in shops)
LCD monitor able to properly display the Q40/Q60 screens ?

Many thanks in advance !

Thierry.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

[matrassyl]

 Hi George

I have windows XP on a 1680x1050 resolution and QPC2 - 3.13 on an 800x600 
resolution. CTRL/Shift/F12 pops the QPC2 window to cover the complete XP 
display 

Duncan

 

 

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Sent: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:11
Subject: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size









I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first 
thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed 
was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys 
SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen 
being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL 
screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? 
 

George 

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access

[matrassyl]

 



then it's some sort of miracle. Usually I do know what my code can
do and what not.



 No miracles from George's suggestion


 


 

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From: Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:53
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access










matras...@aol.com wrote:
  Yes he has, but I will try George's suggestion just in case, as it
 will only take a miniscule amount of time to try and if it delivers

... then it's some sort of miracle. Usually I do know what my code can
do and what not.

 Its a pity that QPC2 does not support direct sector access to alien
 formats as other versions of the QL do.

The difference is that other versions have to support direct sector
access anyway in order to support higher file level functions. It's
basically a by-product. On QPC no such support is necessary and thus
implementing it is a completely unrelated feature. One that has not
been called for very often.
(on a related note, direct sector access for floppy discs works of
course, for the stated reasons).

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access

[matrassyl]

 Yes he has, but I will try George's suggestion just in case, as it will only 
take a miniscule amount of time to try and if it delivers a result it will have 
been an excellent investment as the cost is miniscule. Obviously I am not 
hopeful as Marcel has given it the thumbs down.

Its a pity that QPC2 does not support direct sector access to alien formats as 
other versions of the QL do. I can read FAT 16 formatted sectors on a CF card 
on my Q60 from SBASIC transfer from PC to Q60.  Absence of this can't be to 
stop users doing something stupid to their C:\ drive as I can open a direct 
sector access channel to this and read in the sectors of this drive and 
presumably screw up windows completely if I write rubbish out to it. Windows 
has some way of supporting alien formats as the PD Amiga emulators can read 
Amiga formatted disks and QXLtool can read QL floppy disks from a PC and 
QXL.win files, but as you say only Marcel can know if this windows process is 
compatible with QPC2.

Regards 

 thanks to you and George and Marcel for the interest

Duncan




 


 

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From: Ralf Reköndt ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:29
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access









I think, Marcel has answered...it doesn't work. 
 

Cheers...Ralf 
 

- Original Message - 
From: gdgqler 
 

 Does anyone know if there is a way to open a direc
t sector access  
 channel from SBASIC to a non PC FAT formatted hard disk such as a  
 Q60 formatted compact flash card. I have tried to do this with  
 errt=FOP_DIR(#4,dos4_). While FOP_DIR returns 0 suggesting success  
 the device as seen has a dimension of 0, so that INPUT#4,a$ get an  
 end of file error message. 

 
 Does the error just mean that there is no LF in the file? I have taken  
 to testing for a final LF before reading files with INPUT. Instead you  
 might try Turbo TK code's INPUT$ which reads a specific number of  
 characters from the channel. and so does not rely on LF. 

 
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[Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access

[matrassyl]

Hi,

Does anyone know if there is a way to open a direct sector access channel from 
SBASIC to a non PC FAT formatted hard disk such as a Q60 formatted compact 
flash card. I have tried to do this with errt=FOP_DIR(#4,dos4_). While FOP_DIR 
returns 0 suggesting success the device as seen has a dimension of 0, so that 
INPUT#4,a$ get an end of file error message.

Thanks


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Re: [Ql-Users] ethernet on Q40/Q60

[matrassyl]

 Hi,

I think you need to have linux installed and and ISA ethernet card. The Q60 
support site is still at
http://www.q40.de/q40.desales.html

Duncan


 


 

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Sent: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:24
Subject: [Ql-Users] ethernet on Q40/Q60










Can someone point me to information on getting ethernet going on the Q60?
I need to know what software I need and what I can expect to do (ftp, telnet 
email, http etc...)
I'm sure its been discussed before but I'm a few years out of date.
Thanks,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Chess

[matrassyl]

 Thanks. I have downloaded that one. So it looks like there are only 4 plus 
those for the spectrum that run on one of the spectrum emulators.

Duncan 


 


 

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Sent: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:29
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Chess









 Could anyone tell me how many chess programs there have been for the 
 QL. I know of Psion Chess, GNU chess ?

 Black Knight. Were there any other chess games??

?

 Thanks?

?

 Duncan Neithercut?

There is also Wedgie, by R. D. Lorenz, on the Games page of my site. 
It's QLib compiled and includes source SuperBASIC.?
?

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[Ql-Users] Chess

[matrassyl]

Hi All,

Could anyone tell me how many chess programs there have been for the QL. I know 
of Psion Chess, GNU chess 
Black Knight. Were there any other chess games?

Thanks

Duncan Neithercut
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Re: [Ql-Users] Digital C executables

[matrassyl]

 


While I do have the Digital C SE files, I 
need to go through them to check for anything which needs to be 
removed. The only thing I haven't got is the manual for it

 Hi Dilwyn, the file SPC.txt in DIGIC.zip is all the manual that came with it

Regards


Duncan


 


 

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To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:57
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Digital C executables










- Original Message - 
From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk?

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com?

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:22 PM?

Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Digital C executables?
?


?

 Evening Tony,?

?

 Tony Firshman wrote:?

 Norman Dunbar wrote, On 30/07/09 21:41:?

 ...?

 read it. It's been a few years since I last read or wrote to the 
 dick so?

 it may be a bit flaky.?

?

 That reminds me of the QL man (shall remain nameless, but he knows 
 who?

 he is  (8-)#  ) who said to Roy Wood once that I have my new hard 
 dick?

 in my laptop.?

 Very nice typo.?

?

 Thanks for pointing that one out Tony. As things turned out, my dick 
 was?

 indeed readable and I have extracted the files foe Digital C from 
 said?

 dick and forwarded them to Dilwyn - by email though - not on a dick 
 this?

 time!?

?

 I'm sure that there must be plenty of jokes about floppy dicks and 
 hard?

 dicks as well - but I can't think of any at the moment!?

At least you didn't send me a copy of a dickital C :o|?
?

Who is this Richard everyone is referring to anyway
?

But, to be serious for a moment, Gerry Jackson explained to me that 
DP's rights to the C program have ended and as author he's given 
permission for me to put it on my website (when I get time...moving 
house later this month), at least until (or if) Gerry comes up with a 
new version of the compiler. While I do have the Digital C SE files, I 
need to go through them to check for anything which needs to be 
removed. The only thing I haven't got is the manual for it - anybody 
have a disk-based manual? I can cope with most QL file formats.?
?

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Re: [Ql-Users] Digital C executables

[matrassyl]

 Hi, Digital C was on the DP collection disks thats where I got it. Although it 
predates the GD2 colours, they can be used with programs compiled with it as it 
has functions to access SMSQ/E traps through the registers like trap code for 
SBASIC from Simon Goodwin. 

Duncan


 


 

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Sent: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:08
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Digital C executables










On 30 Jul 2009, at 22:03, Derek Stewart wrote:?
?

?

 C68 should be a more extensive C Compiler. But since I have never  really 
 used Digital C, maybe it is as good.?
?

I remember helping Dave Walker add bits to C68 for the GD2 colours. They would 
not be on Digital C.?
?

I bought the set of disks from DP and don't remember Digital C being on it.?
?

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Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs

[matrassyl]

 


My question is how to read/write inside the QXL.WIN's I have created on them. 



 


 Hi Bob,

The SBASIC code for reading QXLwin files is in the QCDEZE source which comes 
with QCDEZE. The base CD reading code could be adapted to read FAT16. Its a 
piece of work that might be feasable once my present project is finished as I 
have other SBASIC code that can read  write to FAT16. 
If Discover can be adapted then obviously there is no need to adapt QCDEZE.

Duncan


 

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Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:00
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs









Op Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:22:02 +0200 schreef Dave Walker iti...@ntlworld.com:?
?

 Duncan,?

?

 DiscOVER SHOULD read the MSDOS disk format - it certainly has been able  to?

 do so in the past as long as it has been formatted to FAT16 (it will not?

 handle FAT32 or NTFS).   How big is the drive you are trying to use - I?

 could probably sort out why DiscOver is not working if I can get an  image 
 of the disk. If it is not large it might well compress down to a  manageable 
 size.?

?

My Zip's are 100Mb and the EZ's are 128Mb and they are formatted as FAT16.?

I had not thought of trying DiscOVER to read them, I have only used it in the 
past to read floppies.?

My question is how to read/write inside the QXL.WIN's I have created on them.?
?

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Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs

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The next question is, could QCDEZE be adapted to read a QXL.WIN from an?

msdos formatted Zip drive or EZ drive??

 It could be

Duncan


 


 

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Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:51
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs









Op Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:31:02 +0200 schreef Dilwyn Jones?

dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk:?
?

 I'm aware Qubide version 2 can have an Atapi IDE CD-ROM drive connected  and 
 a version of Discover exists to read some CDs.?

?

 Does anyone know if a QXL.WIN CD can be read on such a system and if so  
 what software might be required (e.g. QCDEZE)??

?

I can confirm that QCDEZE will read the QXL.WIN on a CD-ROM drive?

connected to Qubide2.?

But not all drives I tried did work on my Qubide2, you should avoid the?

really fast ones.?

The next question is, could QCDEZE be adapted to read a QXL.WIN from an?

msdos formatted Zip drive or EZ drive??

This would make tranfers of large amounts of data between PC's and Aurora?

easier.?
?

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Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs

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How does Qubide 2 read a FAT ZIP disk.?
?

I have not had any success with Diskover.?
?

I always have to format it to a Qubide partition.?

 Hi, 

I imagine Qubide would need an application that could open a direct access 
channel to the FAT partition and then process the FAT table data and the file 
data like the CF card FAT 16 reader I showed you just over a year ago. I 
thought thats what Diskover did - read alien disc formats.

Duncan 


 


 

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From: Derek Stewart de...@holbornview.force9.co.uk
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:06
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs









Hi,?
?

How does Qubide 2 read a FAT ZIP disk.?
?

I have not had any success with Diskover.?
?

I always have to format it to a Qubide partition.?
?

matras...@aol.com wrote:?

  
?

?

 The next question is, could QCDEZE be adapted to read a QXL.WIN from an??

?

 msdos formatted Zip drive or EZ drive???

?

  It could be?

?

 Duncan?

?

?

  
?

?

  
?

 -Original Message-?

 From: Bob Spelten b...@chello.nl?

 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com?

 Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:51?

 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

 Op Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:31:02 +0200 schreef Dilwyn Jones??

?

 dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk:??

 ??

?

   
 I'm aware Qubide version 2 can have an Atapi IDE CD-ROM drive connected  
 and a version of Discover exists to read some CDs.??

 
?

   
 ??

 
?

   
 Does anyone know if a QXL.WIN CD can be read on such a system and if so  
 what software might be required (e.g. QCDEZE)???

 
?

   
 ??

 
?

 I can confirm that QCDEZE will read the QXL.WIN on a CD-ROM drive??

?

 connected to Qubide2.??

?

 But not all drives I tried did work on my Qubide2, you should avoid the??

?

 really fast ones.??

?

 The next question is, could QCDEZE be adapted to read a QXL.WIN from an??

?

 msdos formatted Zip drive or EZ drive???

?

 This would make tranfers of large amounts of data between PC's and Aurora??

?

 easier.??

 ??

?

 Bob??

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Re: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs

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 Hi Dilwyn, Thierry Godefroys ATAPI CD drivers and QCDEZE should do it. I had 
an Aurora  Qubide system when I wrote it am fairly sure that I tested it on 
that system as well.

Duncan


 


 

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Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:31
Subject: [Ql-Users] Qubide 2 and CDs










I'm aware Qubide version 2 can have an Atapi IDE CD-ROM drive connected and a 
version of Discover exists to read some CDs.

Does anyone know if a QXL.WIN CD can be read on such a system and if so what 
software might be required (e.g. QCDEZE)?

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Re: [Ql-Users] Hardware

[matrassyl]

 Hi, to get the best price, put it on ebay. Black box QLs go for up to £90-150 
depending on condition, and yesterday there was a Trump card for £50-00 but it 
is now gone, today. I have not seen an aurora card there yet but no doubt it 
could sell well.

Duncan


 

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Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:32
Subject: [Ql-Users] Hardware









Hi, 

    one of my ex customers has just asked me to sell his setup. I have 
an Aurora Motherboard, a Qubide,  a full superHermes and a Super Gold 
Card. Anyone interested, please email . 
 

Roy 

-- 
Roy Wood 

Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB 

Tel/ Fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBER! 

web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk   skype : royqbranch 
 

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E

[matrassyl]

 Hi,

The sources for smsq/e, current version 3.13, are at 
http://www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com/smsqe and can be freely downloaded from there. 
They can be recompiled to the version required with QMAC if you have it. 
Instructions and tools other than QMAC are supplied with the sources. 
Otherwise JMS at http://www.j-m-s.com/smsq/ or Quo Vadis at 
http://www.ql-qvd.com/products.html will probably sell you a compiled copy. 

Regards


Duncan


 

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From: Francois Lanciault francoislancia...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 5:18
Subject: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E









Hi, 
 

I am making some kind of a come back to the QL and I might have some dollars to 
update my SGC/Aurora system to the latest technologies. 
 

So... 
 

- What is the latest SMSQ/E revision 
 

- Where can I buy it easily (internet order, Paypal payment, quick download) 
 

- Does it come with complete documentation (Especially the GD2 color 
enhancements) 
 

- In the SuperGoldCard version of SMSQ/E, I know that the 256 colors mode is 
supported. What about the 16 colors mode ? (Useful because it can be used at 
higher resolution than the 256 colors mode) 
 

- I have QD98. Can it be upgraded to the latest one or do I have to buy it 
anew. 
 

 

Thank you in advance. 
 

François Lanciault 
 

 

P.S. I will be working shortly on a program that make heavy use of the QL networ
k. I hope there are some QL network expert around because I am sure to have 
many questions. 
 

 


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[Ql-Users] Mode 32 Sprites

[matrassyl]

Hi

Does anyone have mode 32 sprites that they would not mind sending me off list. 

I am finishing a modernising upgrade of an old icon editor program which is now 
capable of the editing of QL mode 4, mode 16, mode 33, mode 32, mode 64 sprites 
plus bmp images in 32,24,16,8 and 4 bit formats plus QL pic mode 33 and mode 
32, plus QL mode 4 _asm files created by the QPTR toolkit. Saved output is mode 
64 sprites or bmp 24 bit. Colour palette contains 4096 colours from any of the 
full 16bit colour palette. Palettes can also be saved and reused. The program 
is also theme and home directory aware and can be used via FI2 to load sprites.

I have all the various formats from various PD QL web sites except mode 32. I 
would appreciate if you could let me have access to any mode 32 sprites to 
ensure that I have the program to read the data correctly.

If anyone would like an alpha version of the program to look at I am happy to 
send off list.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL SCART Connections

[matrassyl]

 Hi, 

sending you a scan off list.

I think Dilwyn's site also has a zip file detailing how to make a scart cable. 
If not I had a zip file downloaded with diagrams and instructions from another 
QL site previously.

Duncan


 


 

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From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:15
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL SCART Connections









Hi everyone,?
?

A customer wants to have at look at creating his own QL Scart cable 
(this will be his first QL!).?
?

He has seen an article on the internet, but heard about an excellent 
article in QL Today volume 4, issue 2, page 54.  See word gets around at 
last !?

Can anyone help with a scan of the relevant article??
?

-- 
Rich Mellor?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL/QL Parts

[matrassyl]

 Hi Sergiusz, you could try ebay for a basic QL or parts, prices there for a QL 
seem to vary from around £30 to just over £100 depending on condition.I have a 
Prism QL14 monitor for the QL that I dont want, the problem is shipping to 
Poland as it is quite heavy and so I suppose likely to be expensive.

Regards
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From: Sergiusz Jarczyk sergiusz.jarc...@qresc.com
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Sent: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:07
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL/QL Parts









Hi All 

I'm the QL fan since 1987, since I saw it in a first popular IT book 
published in our country... Anyway, can you please tell me if you have 
available CRT display, originally developed for QL (Micro-something, I 
think), with a signal cable? If so, what would be the price, including 
shipping to Poland? Also, what would be the price for a barebone QL, 
with european power supply? 
 

TIA, 

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Re: [Ql-Users] BASIC Questions.

[matrassyl]

 Hi John,


what is the maximum line number that can be used in a SuperBASIC listing? Is 
this number the same for using in RENUM etc?

 As far as I know the maximum line number is 32767 and I imagine that must be 
the same for renum.

Regards

Duncan


 


 

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Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:58
Subject: [Ql-Users] BASIC Questions.









Hi,?
?

I am attempting to write (or rather re-write) a menu controlled program 
which will operate on QDOS (Basic Black Box QL) SMSQ (Aurora/SGC/QuBide) and 
QPC2 and in order that I get the correct terminology printed to the screen, 
I am likely to be asking ql-users for their advice on a number of points as 
they arise in the development of the program.?
?

Firstly: can anyone explain to me the difference (if any) of the terms 
'SMSQ', 'SMSQE ' and SMSQ/E??
?

and?
?

what is the maximum line number that can be used in a SuperBASIC listing? Is 
this number the same for using in RENUM etc??
?

I am not the fastest programmer and it is likely therefore that I shall be 
popping up from time to time asking similar very basic questions and I would 
ask that you bear with me while you try to teach this Old Dog new Tricks.?
?

Regards to all,?
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Re: [Ql-Users] Memory Reduction

[matrassyl]

 Thanks Marcel, your program does the business as far as memory goes. However 
BlackKnight? has another trick up its sleeve. It failes differently once the 
memory is reduced. Jonathon Hudsons Trapper extension seems to indicate it is 
attempting to execute an illegal instruction on the 68060. I am reasonably 
certain that I did run it through the C68 patch for the Qx0 but am now off to 
check that I actually did so. On QPC2 BlackKnight with the memory reduction all 
works.

Regards

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Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:11
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Memory Reduction










matras...@aol.com wrote:
 I have acquired the Black Knight Chess Program. I was informed it
 would not work on modern QL systems but have found that it will when
 the memory in the system is reduced. That is Black Knight will not
 run unless memory is reduced to 8MB or less, if this is done it will
 run on QPC2? 3.33 SMSQ/E 3.13 and does not seem to be upset by the
 screen size ie fine on 800x600 except that its own window is v
 small. My Question is does anyone know of a reasonable way of
 reducing apparent memory on a Q60 other than by taking SIMMs out?

Try this (beware, will reset the machine with 4MB of RAM):

100 a=RESPR(100)
110 POKE_W a,$287C
120 POKE_L a+2,$40
130 POKE_L a+6,$70254E41
140 POKE_L a+10,$4EF80900
150 CALL a

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Re: [Ql-Users] lost files

[matrassyl]

 Hi are you running QPC2 from a limited account. If so this is the behaviour 
that I experience with windows XP


 QPC2 3.33  smsqe 3.13 with a limited windows account that is not an 
administrator account

Regards

Duncan.


 

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From: Billy bill.wa...@btinternet.com
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Sent: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:06
Subject: [Ql-Users] lost files









=?

Just noticed this - I'm using QPC 3.34 beta 3  smsqe 3.13?

I can save a file to Win1_ and access it again but if I closes QPC down 
then restart it the file is no longer there = MS strikes again?
?

Any help welcome?

=?
?

Ok I download QOC2 again to make sure I did not have a demo version - no 
change?

Tried saving to Win7_ ( windows I: drive )that is a plug in HD that 
plugs into a socket on the top of the  (Medion) computer, this works !?
?

Had a look at the properties of the Win file (Win1_ on C: drive,) the 
properties box has an additional tab compared to the properties of the 
win file on I:drive, the extra tab is security and allows various 
states of control for different user, also the win file on the I: drive 
has me as the owner the win file on the C: drive has administrator as 
the owner.?

I have tried changing the settings without much success, also files get 
lost on the Floppy drive if I use it.?

Simple solution is just to set Win1_ to the I drive.?

Seems like a vista thing, must just keep trying I guess?
?

All the besst - Bill?

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[Ql-Users] Memory Reduction

[matrassyl]

Hello,
I have acquired the Black Knight Chess Program. I was informed it would not 
work on modern QL systems but have found that it will when the memory in the 
system is reduced. That is Black Knight will not run unless memory is reduced 
to 8MB or less, if this is done it will run on QPC2? 3.33 SMSQ/E 3.13 and does 
not seem to be upset by the screen size ie fine on 800x600 except that its own 
window is v small. My Question is does anyone know of a reasonable way of 
reducing apparent memory on a Q60 other than by taking SIMMs out?

Thanks

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Re: [Ql-Users] quanta website and membership question

[matrassyl]

 HI Jim, have just been there and done that. The link to paypal is on the left 
of the screen above the column of 


 8 links in blue boxes. The first link says : Quanta Home? 

In firefox it appears as an animation that cycles through buy now , Quanta 
, Renew your subscription and site to the left of the text Download 
Nomination Forms 

There is nothing on the site to tell you of your subscription status. I checked 
mine by asking John Gilpin by email.

Regards

Duncan


 

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Subject: [Ql-Users] quanta website and membership question









I have been reading the emails about renewing on the website so I took a look 
(haven't been on the Quanta site for a while).?
?

Where do you find the membership renewal on it - I could not find it (either I 
am blind which is possible some days or it needs a more obvious pointer for 
people to find the renewal form)??
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Also, is there a way to check on one's current membership status??
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Thanks,?

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Re: [Ql-Users] HD Backup and Qubide HD check

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Is there an alternative backup program?


 There is also TGBack freeware from Thierry Godefroy available from his web 
page. Does not compress files and may need a medium with the same capacity as 
the one to be backed up. There is also the knightsafe 2 a commercial program 
that may still be available from QBranch. This was designed to back up to 
floppy disks with compression.

Duncan
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Subject: [Ql-Users] HD Backup and Qubide HD check










An Italian QL user is experiencing problems using Norback while making the
backup of his Qubide hard disk (out of memory error). I would have the
following questions:

Which is the latest Norback version? Is the latest version the one available
on Dilwyjn web site?
Is there an alternative backup program?
Is there any utility to check for instance that the directory structure of a
Qubide HD is ok?

Thank you

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Re: [Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 24/04/2008 00:38:28 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But  if you try to compile (Turbo or Liberator) some parser error will  
appear...




Hi Gerhard, its a codegen error : Duplicate Label Have you ever  seen that 
error?. Its not mentionned in the manual. The lines in question  compile in 
Qlib. Problems with IF END IF are identified with parser task. What I  am 
wondering is if teh error message indicates a clash between, procedure names  
and 
keywords or perhaps variable definitions although nothing is obvious  obviously.
 
Here are the lines : Its part of a SELect ON value Line 9480 is the  line 
codegen complains about.
 
 
9464=3
9466dv_POS=INT(((zone*12)/(dev_ht%-12))*(free%)):IF  
dv_POS1:dv_POS=1
9468IF  dv_POS=dv_start
9470  scrolls=dv_start-dv_POS
9472  FOR i=1 TO  scrolls
9474Dev_Scroll_down
9476IF dv_start=1 :END FOR  i
9478  END FOR i
9480END IF
9482   IF  dv_POS=dv_end
9484  scrolls=dv_POS-dv_end
9486  FOR i=1 TO  scrolls
9488Dev_Scroll_up
9490  END FOR i
9492   IF  free%-1dv_end:Dev_Scroll_up
9494END IF 
 
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

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Hi Derek,
 
Thanks that was the line. 
 
I used EXIT i as Wolfgang suggested to stop the loop. 
 
Program now compiles and now I have other bugs to fix
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

[Matrassyl]

Hi Norman,
 
 
Thanks that was the line. 
 
I used EXIT i as Wolfgang suggested to stop the loop. 
 
Program now compiles and now I have other bugs to fix
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

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Hi Wolfgang, Thanks that was the answer. 
 
 
Program now compiles and now I have other bugs to fix
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 24/04/2008 20:57:28 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wolfgang and some other guys are right, in line 9476 you have to  use 
NEXT i or EXIT i instead of END FOR i

Have much fun  further debuging







Thanks, I will
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 24/04/2008 20:33:21 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I  hope this helps.



It does many thanks as I am now past the it wont compile stage to I  did not 
think there were so many bugs to sort out stage.
 
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[Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

[Matrassyl]

Am trying to compile a program with turbo 5.06. I am getting a codegen  error 
message Duplicate Label line 9480. Line 9480 contains only END  IF of a 
properly constructed IF  END IF expression.
Duplicate Label is not mentioned in the manual as a codegen error report.  
Can anyone clarify what the error means exactly?
 
Thanks
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Turbo Help Please

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 23/04/2008 19:59:57 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Are you  sure that every IF statement has an END IF ?

Particularly when  nested loops and conditions are coded


Hi Malcolm,
I am fairly sure that they do it is one of the first things I looked  for.
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-World Article missing

[Matrassyl]

In a message dated 08/04/2008 12:22:05 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  have lost a lot of my QL World magazines, im searching
For Diary of a  QL User from  Samantha Mead. I think the serie
Started at January  1986, but I have only the April left from 86.

It would be great if  someone can copy, scan (I will pay for it) the
diary or sell  me
the missing QL Worlds.

Hi 
 There were 3 articles one in the combined Jan/Feb 86 issue and  then one in 
March  April 86.
I can scan the 2 you do not have and email them separately from the list as  
.jpgs tomorrow if that is any use to you.
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] (no subject)

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 18/03/2008 23:48:49 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

missed the Gold Card auction :( but I have seen this one  

http://uk.four.ebid.net/perl/auction.cgi?auction=1200854905-28140-8mo=auctio
n

for  a Trump Card?

I can see it isn't as much of an uprade as the Gold  Cards, but is it worth 
having?


I have a Gold Card. It has sat on a shelf for a while.
I could be persuaded to part with it and/or also a Q40 if you are  interested
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Internet connection

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 11/03/2008 06:53:31 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

The  question here is what you get back from the device : do you get the 
entire TCP  (stack) info 
back, or just the data?



Hi Wolfgang,
 
As far is I can see from the website the NetPort device is suitable for  
connecting to many non computer industrial devices, like vending machines   
instrumentation  measurement devices, fire and security  panels  also hand 
held 
computing devices and can be set  up for these devices in minutes which would 
suggest that it translates the  TCP/IP network data into the straight forward 
type of serial data  that these types of devices would demand. 
 
I am going to have a look at the documentation for Lynx before deciding to  
investigate further. One concern I have is making the netport device visible  
to my modem router as I am not familiar with networking concepts.
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Internet connection

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 09/03/2008 09:56:22 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

so  if you wanted a Web page, you'd have
to use your PC to translate some  serial command into Get me this address
from Port 80 -- the PC would  also have to handle the receipt of that page 
transmitting it back  down the to the serial side.

I guess what I'm saying is, it would  be non-trivial :(



Hi Ade,
 
Have had a looks at the Cyclades T-100. Looks similar to but more  
sophisticated than the Netport device in that Netport does not run linux or  
any other 
OS. It is configurable from a PC or via AT commands  through  the serial port. 
What I was envisaging was configuring Netport  possibly via a PC to be a 
recognised connection to the internet  broadband router modem, plugginig it 
into 
the QL and then looking at  the non trivial task, as you point out, of writing 
an application to decipher  the serial steam of converted TCP/IP data and send 
recognisable internet  commands through the serial link, ie a sort of a 
browser, probably rather  limited in functionality at first.
 
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[Ql-Users] Internet connection

[Matrassyl]

Hi,
 
Does anyone have knowledge of the netport serial to ethernet connectors at  :
 
_http://www.openxtra.co.uk/products/accessories/serial-ethernet-adapters/netpo
rt/prodnetport.html_ 
(http://www.openxtra.co.uk/products/accessories/serial-ethernet-adapters/netport/prodnetport.html)
 


NetPort is a ‘plug-and-play’ Serial-to-Ethernet cable adaptor that enables  
any
device or machine with a serial port, to become network and  Internet-enabled
in an instant.
The external NetPort adaptor features an  integrated web server, allowing any
device to which it is attached to be  ‘contacted’ and monitored via a 
standard
Internet browser. TCP/IP protocol  stacks are embedded into the NetPort,
enabling it to operate within non-PC  environments and the adaptor features
a Modem Emulation Mode, allowing it to  behave like a modem but communicate
over TCP/IP.
 
The cost is £80+VAT
 
Could such a device be suitable to connect a Qx0 or an aurora or a Shermes  
modified base QL to a broadband router modem?
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] List problems

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Hi I have just had 2 of these as well. 
 
Duncan



   
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[Ql-Users] Keyboard Queue Research Results ( was macros)

[Matrassyl]

A queue has a header of 4 long words. The first long word is used by the  OS, 
the second points to the end of the queue, the third points to the next  
location to store a byte and the 4th to the next location for a byte to be  
read 
from. The value of the pointer in sv.keyq should change with the task that  is 
using the keyboard. Info from Adrian Dickens  Andy Pennels books.
 



   
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Re: [Ql-Users] macros

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 21/11/2007 15:25:24 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

I'm  looking to write a little utility to record keypresses as macros,
if  necessary assigning them to a hotkey or altkey for later use.

Some  processes mean repeated strings of keypresses, so it may be handy
to record  these keypresses and replay them later with an alt or hot
key to avoid  typing the same commands repeatedly.

Anyone have any idea how best to  go about achieving this?

-- 
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What about checking for the position of the pointer to the current input  key 
queue. Even if the same key is pressed repeatedly the position of the buffer  
pointer moves which each character input. I used this when I wrote my screen  
saver to check for repeatedly pressed keys.
 
sv_keyq=PEEK_L(SystemVariableBase+76) : REM pointer to keyboard queue
 
NewKey=CheckKeys 
 
 DEFine FuNction CheckKeys
LOCal KeyPress
REMark  Returns 1 for keypress and 0 for no  keypress
BufPos=PEEK_L(sv_keyq)
BufPos2=PEEK_L(BufPos+12) :  REM last key pressed
IF BufPos2=OldPos  :  KeyPress=0
IF BufPos2OldPos :  KeyPress=1
OldPos=BufPos2
RETurn KeyPress
END DEFine  CheckKeys
 
The value in Bufpos might be usable to get the key combination, if not  
sv_arbuf could be peeked to get the value. 
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] macros

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 22/11/2007 23:41:28 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

 Any  idea what values I SHOULD be finding in the queue? Or perhaps it's 
  safer to do something like:



Hi Dilwyn, sadly I wrote that so long ago (1999) that while I assume I  knew 
what I was doing then I dont know now what I was doing then. I could do  some 
research on it to try to recall. It would be nicer to understand what  should 
be happening. As you say it works and I have used it as a routine on  aurora, 
Qx0, and QPC2.
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 07/10/2007 18:12:58 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

Actually  I am not being facetious about the use of the word punter. I wote 
in a  light-hearted way, but I think the person concerned is making a fair  
point, and we should be sensitive to it.

The problem is I cannot  think of a suitable alternative that also conveys 
the sort of atmosphere  we have at shows,

Best Wishes,


Geoff  



Actually what's wrong with QLer, QL enthusiast, QL Hobbyist, QL supporter,  
QList, QLuser, QL individualist.
The editor of QLToday might be contempating a competition to discover the  
correct terms for a single QL user or an pack of them, like a pride of  Lions 
etc,  - like a QLutch of Qlers.
 
Clearly punter is a cliched descriptor which may be applied  to an individual 
who is expected to part whith hard cash during an event of  any sort and is 
therefore totally inadequate to adequately describe the  quality of the 
individualists who continue to support QL systems. 
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Launchpad

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 06/10/2007 01:34:33 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This was  an unforeseen side effect of a change made to allow fixing of 
top  left
corner after a resize, which works better for resizing, but has  this
effect. I'll try to change it when I manage to figure out exactly  what
is causing it.
Luckily, it is just inconvenient rather than a  serious bug.
-- 
Dilwyn Jones



Any chance of having the initial location coordinates of launchpad  
configuable in the config block or passed as a command string with  EX?
 
Thanks
 
Duncan



   
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[Ql-Users] Launchpad

[Matrassyl]

Hi
 
Does anyone know of a simple way of getting Launchpad to open at a  specified 
location on the screen.
My problem is that Launchpad 2.09 insists on opening its window at x=0 y=0  
on the display no matter how it is EXed. There seems to be no way to configure  
launchpad to open its windows at an exact location.
Launchpad 2.06 can be made to open its windows at exact pixel  co-ordinates.
 
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 Qx0

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 10/07/2007 11:24:43 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There is a document that explains exactly how a QXL.WIN fie is made  up, 
bytes, words  and long words. I have it though where I got it  is not 
remembered. Could email it.



Thanks but I have that document. I wanted to test the idea that the QXL.win  
format was the Qx0 hard disk format by copying a Qx0 disk to a file and see if 
 QPC2 would recognise it as a QXL.win file.
 
 
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 Qx0

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 08/07/2007 13:19:31 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

To  be epected as QPC2 is using Windows/DOS/BIOS to read device.

I use  a HE editor that not only opens files but also a device, which it  
reads sector by sector.

Alternatively why not take the QXL  file onto the Qx0 ?



What is an HE editor?
 
What I want to do is clone the Qx0 hard disk into a QXL.win file
 
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[ql-users] QPC2 Qx0

[Matrassyl]

Anyone know how to open a direct sector access SBASIC channel to a CF card  
formatted as a Qx0 hard disk but plugged into a PC running QPC2. What I want to 
 do is copy the Qx0 CF card sector by sector to a QXL.win file on a PC Hard 
disk  to test the idea that the Qx0 hard disk format is essentially the same as 
the  QXL.win format.
 
Have been trying the same syntax to open the channel I have used  
successfully on the Q60 to open direct sector access to CDROMs and FAT16  
formatted PC CF 
cards but does not work on QPC2 to access Qx0 formatted CF  cards! I get 
error -1.
 
Help appreciated
 
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[ql-users] Qx0 hard disk structure

[Matrassyl]

Hi 
 
Does anyone know the file structure of the Qx0 hard disk. Is it the same as  
the QXL.win format?
Is there any documentation anywhere.
 
Thanks
 
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Re: [ql-users] Blocklands by Digital Precision

[Matrassyl]

I have the collection do you wish a copy of disk 6 or just  blocklands?
 
Duncan



   
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[ql-users] QPC2 DOS device

[Matrassyl]

Hi 
 
Has anyone tried to copy a file of 1Mb or greater size from a PC hard  disk 
to the Win1_ QXL win container hard disk of QPC2 using Qtrans or the QPAC 2  
files thing. I am trying to copy files from my Q60 Hard disk to QPC2. I have  
zipped my SBASIC folder on the Q60 to a zip file of aprroximately 1 Mb in size, 
 
copied it to a FAT16 formatted compact flash card and then tried to copy the 
zip  file into QPC2 as described above. However I have tried QPC2 crashes and 
crashes  so badly that windows asks if I want to send a report of the crash to 
microsoft.  QPC2 3.33 smsqe 3.13. The zip file is not corrupt as I can unzip 
the contents  correclt on the PC.
 
Is there a limit to the size of file that can be copied from DOS formatted  
disks into the QXL win container?
 
Duncan



   
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 DOS device

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 23/06/2007 13:50:04 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Per. Have found I can also  copy other files larger than 1Mb to  
Win1_.
 It leaves me  puzzled as to what is going on as windows has no problem   
with
 the file

If you are using a virus scanner, try  disabling it.

 Marcel



Hi Marcel, thanks for the suggestion I am using Norton but that was not  the 
problem.
What it was, was that the program I had written to copy files to the CF  card 
on the Q60 made a mess
of the DOS file date. So the file had a created date in 2087 - only got 1  
digit wrong but it was enough. Once I removed the file created and  last 
accessed dates from the file it copied into QPC2 perfectly. QPC2  must check 
for 
valid file dates when copying from DOS devices but windows does  not care!
 
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 DOS device

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 23/06/2007 09:43:49 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is there a limit to  the size of file that can be copied from DOS
formatted
  disks into the QXL win container?

I just copied a 10+Mb file from  dos to win. No  problem.

Per
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Thanks Per. Have found I can also copy other files larger than 1Mb to  Win1_. 
It leaves me puzzled as to what is going on as windows has no problem  with 
the file
 
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Re: [ql-users] Computer One Programs

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 22/06/2007 21:50:18 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Does  anyone have a copy of the following Computer One languages on disk 
(or  working microdrive copy) -  :

Pascal
Forth
Monitor

Thanks

-- 
Rich  Mellor
RWAP Services
URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk
_URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk_ (http://www.rwapservices.co.uk) 






I have Pascal on microdrive. Why?
 
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Re: [ql-users] Screen Resolution changing .....

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 25/04/2007 11:45:34 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

as i can move windows around etc but i would love to be able to  toggle
back to the QL's native resolution 
on the fly for  certain programs. 

I suspect this is not possible on the fly  

Hi Neil,
 
Yes it is possible I wrote a pointer driven button that produced a drop  down 
menu to select the desired screen resolution some years ago when I had a  
functioning Aurora. The one thing that had to be done before switching screen  
resolution was to ensure that SBASIC was asleep on a button before changing.  
Over the years I have migrated the program to a Q60 and QPC2 so I am not now  
certain that it would run on Aurora. At the time Aurora only had mode 4  
colours. I still use the program on the Q60 switching on the fly from 1025x256  
high 
colour to 512x256 high colour and then down to mode 4 colour if  desired.
 
I could dig out the sources if you are interested. I might even have an  old 
Aurora version on one of the old floppy disks. If you are  interested.
 
Duncan
 
 



 



   
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Re: [ql-users] New here....

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 17/04/2007 23:34:07 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What  I'm basically interested in right now is how I can revive my old  
collection of software, most importantly Text87, which is by far the  
most expensive piece of my software collection. It just doesn't seem  to 
like the QPC. Any hints on that, maybe?



Hi
 
If the problem with text87 is the GD2 colour drivers which I think it will  
be if your version of QPC2 is upto date (QPC 3.33  SMSQ/E 3.13) you will  need 
to buy the text87 patch program to update it for the GD2 colour drivers.  JMS 
software  QBranch sell it I think. Once you have patched it to run on  QPC2 
there is a freeware patch for the patched version of Text87 to  give a wider 
range of paper  ink colour options. On Dilwyn Jones  site.
 
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Re: [ql-users] QMAC

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 12/04/2007 22:01:04 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 agree - perhaps Quanta would be better to say, purchase 5 licences  and  
 then offer to give them away - that would probably be more  than enough to  
 meet demand.


Have to say I dont agree, buying the rights or an unlimited licence  future 
proofs the use of QMAC for new entrants to QL computing. 5 free copies  are 
likely to be snapped up by existing users. Contacting Quanta and possibly  
joining to get a free copy creates yet another barrier for a new entrant. What  
happens when the 6th person comes along and asks for a copy - perhaps a Quanta  
member who is upset to discover that the free copies have gone to non  members?
 
My advice is keep it simple get an unlimited licence (if not  unreasonably 
priced) and make it freely downloadable from the sources  page.
 
Duncan 









   
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Re: [ql-users] QMAC

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 11/04/2007 23:54:29 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It's  not the cost of the license that's important but whether the money is  
being well spent. 


As long as the cost is reasonable and if a £100 is what you have been  
discussing, it would be a bargain I would think. 
 
Allowing QMAC to be downloadable from the smsqe sources page will make it a  
bit easier for newcomers to compile smsqe for their own system. Once QMAC   
becomes available effectively as freeware it should be possible to compile 
smsqe 
 from the sources using freely available tools in a relatively straight 
forward  way, which might help attract newcomers. 
 
Duncan



   
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Re: [ql-users] Comment from the Traditional QUANTA Committee

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Hi,
 
To be fair about this discussion - see John's reply to my question about  
whether Quanta could buy out the copyright on QMAC
 
Duncan
   
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Re: [ql-users] QL hardware and stuff

[Matrassyl]

 
 
spending money on a semi commercial assembler. 
 
The licence for QMAC is owned by Quanta. I recall reading sometime ago a  
statement that Quanta had not sold a copy in years. 
 
So to Quanta the membership here, if my recollection and understanding of  
the situation is correct, would the membership mind if Quanta made QMAC  
freeware. 
 
To the listening Committee is it possible to do this and if so will  you, or 
do you need a formal written request to the chairman? I can write  one if you 
wish.
 
If it can be made freeware couls it be made downloadable from the SMSQ/E  
sources pages
 
 
Duncan 


   
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Re: [ql-users] QL hardware and stuff

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 19/02/2007 08:20:15 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ah -  I do have an email here from Nasta about the Ultra Gold Card  project:




It is a pity that these projects especially GoldFire have stalled. When  
exactly did you have the email from Nasta. Is his present situation the same? 
Is  
there anything this list can do. I could help with a business case but know  
nothing about programming hardware.
 
He seems to indicate that the EtherIDE. It incorporates some of the  
features of the Qubide II as well as  the ethernet network hardware from  the 
GF is 
almost there but only needs funds for the PCB. If this is the case I  am 
willing to help write the business case a suggested by the Quanta  Treasurer.
 
Duncan

   
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Re: [ql-users] QL hardware and stuff

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 21/02/2007 23:07:03 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  email from Nasta was dated December 2006.

The etherIDE would be a  good project - the main problem would most  
definitely be the  lack of a TCP/IP stack and drivers.
Alas Peter Graf knows how to  implement this


You dont mean Alas only Peter Graf knows how to implement  this
 
How about this from the web:
 
 
uIP is an implementation of the TCP/IP protocol stack intended for small  
8-bit and 16-bit microcontrollers. It provides the necessary protocols for  
Internet communication, with a very small code footprint and RAM requirements - 
 
the uIP _code size_ (http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/size.html)  is on the  order 
of a few kilobytes and _RAM usage_ (http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/size.html)  
is on the order of a  few hundred bytes. 
uIP is open source software written in the C programming language and the 
_documentation_ (http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/documentation.html)  and _source 
code_ (http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/download.html)  is free to use  and 
distribute for both commercial and non-commercial use as long as proper  credit 
is 
given (the full BSD-style license is _here_ 
(http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/license.html) ). It has been ported a  wide range 
of 8-bit microcontrollers and is 
used in a large number of embedded  products and projects (see the _Links page_ 
(http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/links.html)  for a few  examples).  
As I see it we should try to progress one step at a time. First can the  
etherIDE oroject be built? You could find the answer to that. Second if it 
still  
can be built how much interest is there in aquiring a board and is there a  
trader interested in selling, again you perhaps.Third can uIP be ported or can  
Jon Dent's TCP/IP stack be ported across. His development is stalled but has  
functionalility. I have used it around Christmas  time. The problem I 
experienced is that it does not  connect stably to just any IP service provider 
and 
specifically with the  ones I use at the moment but it may well be fine with 
bespoke hardware.. Jon  is approachable and this might stimulate further 
development. 
Duncan
   
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Re: [ql-users] USBwiz USB to serial device

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 16/02/2007 19:48:47 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  hardware interface is the *easy* bit.
Does anyone have the  expertise/time to write  drivers?

Tony




The USBwiz-Box derivative is external, plugs into an RS232  connector but 
also needs a power connector. Looks as if it can be  driven from a serial port 
and can communicate with SD memory cards,  and usb devices like camera and 
printers, mice, keyboards. Serial rates  supported 9600 to 921600. Cost $99.95 
for 
1 down to $79.95 for  500+
 
If you Tony would help with the connectors  the list would like to  club 
together or dare I say Quanta to sponsor someone the $100 US  dollars + postage 
we could find out if it will work when driven  through a serial port.
 
Duncan 
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Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 16/02/2007 09:49:30 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That  would sound brilliant - I for one would want to offer it for sale  !!





 I would want to buy one
 
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Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 16/02/2007 09:29:17 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

 How  would it sound if a SD/MMC device for SuperGoldCard, Q40 and Q60 had 
  already been prototyped and a free software to access it was already 
  written?

 Peter




Do you have any othe projects else up your sleeve?
 
Duncan
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Re: [ql-users] USBwiz USB to serial device

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 16/02/2007 10:52:22 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

  Recent issue of Nuts  Volts has article by Jan Axelson.
 She  writes about USBwiz from GHI Electronics.  Priced
 at about $50,  allows serial to USB communication.  Her
 site is Lvr.com and ghi  is at ghielectronics.com

 Any opinions as to whether QL could work  with USBwiz ?

Herb Schaaf



This is the sort of development that should be do able. The device can be  
driven by I2C commands, the hardware connections are well documented, it is  
designed for hobbyists, drivers in C are provided, the suppliers claim it can 
be  
driven by any processor including motoralla. I2C drivers of a type exist for 
the  QL for the Minerva ROM. no doubt there would be work to do to make it 
happen but  less than designing bespoke hardware from the ground up.
 
UK suppliers have it on sale for £30 a piece with development rigs for  £150 
- a lot less than the £1000s suggested before.
 
Duncan
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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 15/02/2007 09:40:16 GMT Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Seeing  all this discussion about possible new hardware etc. and the risks 
etc.
is  why I've come to the conclusion that there's never going to be any  new
hardware. It's just not economically viable:

(a) The cost in  time and money to design and build would be high.
(b) The size of the  market is too small so the price would be prohibitively
high.

It  would be really nice if magically a new, hyper-fast, QL  compatible
replacement motherboard for the QL which fitted into the case  would appear,
but it's not going to.

Those who want to continue to  play can't find the old upgrade cards anymore
(though I have seen on eBay  UK at the moment someone selling two QLs with one
Gold Card) so there's a  problem.

Porting something like SMS/Q or whatever to a new platform is  still expensive
in time but no-where near as much as new hardware, so  surely, the best way
forward would be to find some easily obtainable  alternative hardware which 
can
be easily adapted to our cause. (Sorry, for  me emulation doesn't cut it, it's
too clunky. I want to be able to plug a  machine in, switch on and hit F2.)

This is why I suggested 2nd hand  Amiga 1200s (I know that one of our french
friends said that french  keyboard layout Amigas are hard to come by) as by
default they're faster  than the QL with useful on-board hardware and can be
easily upgraded using  reasonably available 3rd party 68030/040/060 and memory
upgrade boards  which can often be found on eBay.

The only other possible alternatives  would be Ataris, which aren't expanable
and you pay through the nose for a  Falcon040 (if you can find one), or old
Apples, which don't have a great  deal of hardware documentation.

The alternative to replacing the Amiga  Kickstart ROM in the machine would be
to have the OS on disk as software  and get Kickstart to load that instead.
Probably easier than burning ROMs I  would imagine. At least the Amiga 
platform
is well documented and close  enough to the QL to make it feasible. (You could
probably even write a  Copper list to make the Amiga video hardware read the 
QL
screen format  directly.)

There are very few options available. All of them would  require a huge amount
of work.

Steve


What about a hardware connector that allows an existing amiga accellerator  
board to connect to a QL empansion slot or a backplane, would that not be  
simpler and give the advantages with less effort?
 
Duncan
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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

[Matrassyl]

 
In a message dated 13/02/2007 19:33:40 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

If your  paper design proves to work in practice, fine. If it doesn't you may 
be  able to get it to work by a bit of tweaking. You can also be in a  
situation in which you get now return whatsoever on the capital.

In  other words Quanta could give £5,000 of members' money to develop a card  
and see no return on that money whatsoever.



I agree that a complete design from bottom up could be a risky business but  
why if one was is not achievable are all other possible routes ruled out. 
 
Why not consider adapting commercially available boards. Startup costs of a  
project could come down to a few hundred pounds plus programming  time.
 
Have a look at Bitwise systems site : _https://www.quickusb.com/_ 
(https://www.quickusb.com/)  for $149  dollars you get a USB module that can be 
adapted 
to interface to custom systems,  board are made with a variety of adaptors. 
Drivers are supplied in linux   windows format with documentation. volume 
price 
breaks start at as little as 10  units. 
 
Duncan
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Re: [ql-users] Réf. : Re: Spare GC or SGC?

[Matrassyl]

Tony wrote:
 The hardware issues are not going to be trivial (for all aspects of  the
 design) but the *real* difficulty is going to be finding people to  write
 both the firmware (logic chips) and drivers. That will be  the
 make/break.  

Yes that is exactly the problem, each hardware upgrade - Goldcard, QXL  card 
through to Q60 has been an attempt at a 'complete' and final  computer on a 
board. The only one that has not been was the Aurora  motherboard. Even then 
as far as I understand it was part of a vision of a  complete solution that 
seems to have been envisaged as a series of boards.  Each complete solution has 
depended on the engagement of a very few  key individuals without whom all 
progress stops.
 
Without hardware development QL computing will not survive much longer  
except for retro enthusiasts.
Clearly the cost of upgrading is important to many current users as  the Qx0 
series has not been taken up generally with the majority of hardware  users 
running system designed in the 1980s or early 1990s. As a result  development 
of 
the Qx0 series seems to have stopped as well, presumably the  market is too 
small to make it worthwhile developing add ons for the Qx0 and  then there is 
the SMSQ/E licence issue there as well.
 
If someone is thinking about developing the hardware further, recognising  
price constraints and the diverse needs of the community would it be possible 
to 
 consider a modular process of upgrades. If it were possible for example:
 
to add a memory board using one of the commercially available memory simms  ( 
boards could be sold with or without simms) to an Aurora system as an  
additional board on the back plane.
 
to add a processor board to the backplane on an aurora setup with say a  gold 
card whereby the new processor takes over from the 68000 - perhaps  that chip 
is removed from the gold card.
 
to add the memory and processor boards as 2 in line modular upgrades to a  
black box QL 
 
to add an ISA graphics board to the Qx0 to improve graphics caompatibility  
with flat screens.
 
to add a USB board to the Aurora/Qubide/SGoldCard system etc
 
Taking a modular approach to make each board itself simpler might make  it 
easier to do the work in small chunks, could engage more of the  existing 
community on different projects, make the work for a  specific smaller upgrade 
easier, perphaps allow the use of existing  commercially available boards, and 
make 
upgrading more affordable for those who  cannot fork out £300-400 all at once.
 
I do realise that this may all be pie in the sky as I know nothing about  
hardware development.
 
As a final thought Quanta could stimulate this by making a prize (£s  
X-prize) for the first team to say design and make a  prototype processor 
upgrade 
add on board or USB driver  or whatever,
 
Duncan
 
 
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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

[Matrassyl]

Hi Per
 
I think you miss the point sometimes.
 
You said
 
 The QL was never only about hardware for quite a number of  enthusiasts, 
and therefore it is still going strong in its emulated form. If  you want 
the best QL platform money can buy, get QPC2 and stick it in your  PC.
 
For quite a number of enthusiasts t it was not and still is not about  
emulators, especially those who love and are sticking to original hardware and  
those who have no easy upgrade route now if they do not have a PC at  home.
 
As for QPC2 dont forget that there are 2 critical spofs (single points  of 
failure) for QPC2 - 
 
1. the PC and its OS 
2. like previous QL hardware efforts that started this  discussion the QPC2 
software is a one man show. If Marcel loses  interest QPC2 is dead. 
 
Therefore regardless of personal preferences  Marcels current health  in the 
long term diversity is good, all eggs in one basket is bad. I also  have QPC2 
upto date etc, etc 

Wot SMSQ/E license issue? Not my personal issue here but the very real  
fight that despoiled this list some time ago. It needs to be recognised  that 
the 
consequences of that argument was a critical point in the  future development 
of the QL community. As for SMS/E I have compiled my own  SMSQ/E for my Q60 
since 3.03 and tried to show how easy it is to do in QLToday,  but the argument 
about licence itself seems to have killed off hardware  development.
 
However, the second major module of the Aurora project, the mythical  
Goldfire, is still outstanding. That is the project that is furthest advanced.  
If 
it cannot be made to succeed what chance does any other project  have?

I agree with you there is absolutely none if everyone has  your attitude. 
The question to me is why did it stall, was the project too ambitious in  its 
scope - using a Coldfire processor or did personal circumstances for the  
prime mover result in its end? I dont know. 
 
What I am suggesting is that those with hardware skills  left the community 
should be encouraged (financially) to look at  simpler projects that need less 
development time and are affordable for a larger  number of the group or if 
that is not possible that as a group we should  consider projects with 
outsourcing of development in an affordable way perhaps  to eastern europe as 
suggested 
by Rich Mellor.
 
Duncan  
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Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

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There are suppliers who make custom computer on the board 68060 systems  
pricipally for industry. To my untrained eye the specs look similar to the Qx)  
without the ISA slots. 
 
Would take away the fun of designing a new system but might simplify  the 
problem to interfacing to aurora/ original QL motherboard and adapting QDOS  
and 
SMSQ/E to the new board. Dont know the prices of these things but there is a  
UK supplier at _http://www.bvm.co.uk/_ (http://www.bvm.co.uk/) 
 
 
Duncan Neithercut
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Re: [ql-users] Aurora - Bootup (KVM)

[Matrassyl]

 Which is good but when i do dir cdr1_ i get 'Not implemented', which  is
 bad.

You need to set the location of the CD drive with  the command:
CDR_DRIVE 1,1,0
This sets cdr1_ (1,) to the slave of  the 1st ide (,1,), and the 1st CD  
session (,0).
Check the  HDD for documentation on the Atapi_  cdrom_bin files.


You also need a program called QCDEZE to access the CDROM once the drivers  
have been installed. You may have a copy on your hard disk since your system  
came with a CDROM.
If not then Dilwyn Jones site has a copy that you can download.
 
Duncan Neithercut
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Re: [ql-users] Colour themes

[Matrassyl]

Hi Malcolm
 
On Launchpad
The MyQL Menu - Display sub menu - System palette item : set  to a theme 
file using the pop down file menu eg Win1_Launchpad_green_theme and  click on 
OK. Thats it I think.
Dilwyn will give the definitive answer.
 
Why has your QLToday arrived before mine. What to I need to do to get  
preferential treatment as well?
 
Duncan Neithercut
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[ql-users] Text87plus4 colours

[Matrassyl]

Hi,
 
I was always disappointed that the patch program from Marcel to get  
Text87plus4 to work on QPC2 and the Q60 only allowed the traditional QL colours 
 on 
the Q60 although an alternative was allowed for QPC2. As a result and after  
some time I have made a patch program to patch the patched version of  
Text87plus4 to allow alternate colour schemes on both the Qx0 and QPC2.  With 
this 
Text87plus4 can appear in pink, green, red, brown, purple, blue, grey   or 
any 
other colour scheme combination that works for you. 
 
I have sent a copy to Dilwyn Jones for his site if he is willing to put it  
on but if anyone on the list wishes to try it let me know  I will send you  a 
copy privately. 
 
Duncan Neithercut
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Re: [ql-users] Text87plus4 colours

[Matrassyl]

Hi Marcel,
 
 it looks like you missed the finer nuances of colour  selection
 
I dont doubt for 1 minute that I have missed the finer nuances. I was aware  
that some bits were more important than others but did not recognise a 
pattern,  thanks for the info.
My excuse is that to make the program I looked at a hex dump of the 2 QPC2  
patched versions and the Q60 version and tried to understand the critical 
colour  differences.
 
Also I don't understand why line 1500 is restricted to QPC only. -  
Serendipity
 
Wrote the program on a Q60  did not need that line to get usable  colours on 
screen but to get any sense on the QPC2 screen it was needed, hence  only 
allowed for Q60. I assumed it was due to order of colours in respective  words 
on 
Q60  QPC2. Obviously it can be allowed for the Q60 if it  will improve 
things.
 
The six colour menus are not the same from QPC2 to Q60.  There are so many 
good combinations I put what looked nice there rather than  equivalents.
 
Nice work.
 
Thank you very much indeed.
 
Duncan
 
 






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Re: [ql-users] SMSQ/e on Gold Card / Super Gold Card

[Matrassyl]

On Qx0 I find format is not reliable through QPAC2 files but is OK  from the 
SBASIC command line when the disk is given a name. I may not have ever  
formatted a DD disk, only HD floppy disks. I could dig a DD disk out and  see.
 
Duncan Neithercut
 
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