Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
ALASTAIR GRAHAM wrote: And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident Oh-I didn't think about that...nevermind! ;c} -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
Jim, No problems I should have said :- ) Ok one of the local comms guys has swapped me for the newer 38A all working as should be including the Morse ID every 15 Min's great Only thing I wont be able to do is get 1750Hz access although I notice on the alarm side you can change the tones to 1750Hz but looks like encode only ? Another mater Hamtronix ELECTRA 2000 Any input on these would be helpful what I can tell so far is they are a great logic at a great price although 2 emails two weeks later I am still awaiting a reply re 1750Hz access Regards Al Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALASTAIR GRAHAM wrote: And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident Oh-I didn't think about that...nevermind! ;c} -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
The Z38A instruction manual can be down loaded from http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-index.html The 38 is a different puppy from the 38A, however. More that one person has voiced the comment that Zetron is one of those companies that has absolutely no regard for their customers. It seems that they stock manuals only for those products currently in production. If you want a manual for a device that is a few years old you are out of luck - you can't even buy one. If anybody wants to donate PDFs for the Zetron page at repeater-builder just go ahead and mail them in. We've got gigabytes of storage that are just sitting there going to waste. At 08:22 PM 10/24/07, you wrote: I think the ID in DTMF you are talking about is the user ID which is transmitted at the end of a transmission as the bubble up. The DTMF sequence is the user number. If you want to have the Z38A transmit an ID every 15 minutes in Morse whether it has been active or not, put a user number in the system config with the ID you want. If you only want an ID when the system is active, put the ID in the user number with the tone you are using and put user 0 in the system ID slot. If you set the CTCSS on transmit to terminate when the user stops transmitting, the CTCSS will continue during the ID and then drop for the rest of the squelch tail. Let me know if you have any more questions. I have 5 of the Z38A operating in amateur repeaters. 73 - Jim W5ZIT Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]radiotech808 To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
radiotech808 wrote: Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts You do know that ham ID regs call for 10 minute ID intervals, not 15? Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Never heard of a DTMF ID on a tone panelI think it's a unit ID/customer ID for the sake of billing or troubleshooting. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
Hi Jim All, Firstly the tone panel is a Zetron 38 not an A or max ! Jim you are right about the DTMF ident really only for trouble shooting over air etc And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident Speaking to tech at Zetron today he agrees that it looks like aa hardware issue as the hardware was made custom for Phillips back in 1985 (when I had hair) One thing that I think may be causing the ident not to trigger the radio TX could be one of the various jumper setting inside although no circuit diagram for that As before you can hear the ident every 15 (only on audio line to test set) it does not pull the radio into TX As everything else I have got going except this id with TX every 15 Min's Ps one post suggested using user tone 0 for the id Zetron will not accept this The Joys... Thanks for all the posts anyway guys Regards Al Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: radiotech808 wrote: Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts You do know that ham ID regs call for 10 minute ID intervals, not 15? Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Never heard of a DTMF ID on a tone panelI think it's a unit ID/customer ID for the sake of billing or troubleshooting. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
John, Thanks for the reply One thing I do have is the manual although not all DTMF programming commands work with my panel still suspect it's a hardware issue Will speak to Zetron tomorrow see what they come up with ! Regards Al Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
do you have one of the follow and the book for the other as there are: 38 38A 38max and there may be 2 ver of the plan 38. John - Original Message - From: ALASTAIR GRAHAM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel John, Thanks for the reply One thing I do have is the manual although not all DTMF programming commands work with my panel still suspect it's a hardware issue Will speak to Zetron tomorrow see what they come up with ! Regards Al Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
I think the ID in DTMF you are talking about is the user ID which is transmitted at the end of a transmission as the bubble up. The DTMF sequence is the user number. If you want to have the Z38A transmit an ID every 15 minutes in Morse whether it has been active or not, put a user number in the system config with the ID you want. If you only want an ID when the system is active, put the ID in the user number with the tone you are using and put user 0 in the system ID slot. If you set the CTCSS on transmit to terminate when the user stops transmitting, the CTCSS will continue during the ID and then drop for the rest of the squelch tail. Let me know if you have any more questions. I have 5 of the Z38A operating in amateur repeaters. 73 - Jim W5ZIT Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in programming. I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done. John - Original Message - From: radiotech808 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel Hi All, I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems What I want Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident does go out but no radio tx any thoughts Station ID At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse once again any thoughts or ideas Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am looking for might not work ? Regards Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
