Re: CSCold Sores

[Tad Winiecki]

Try alternating yogurt with aloe vera gel scraped from a fresh leaf.

Nancy

On Feb 11, 2008, at 6:56 PM, norm donatien wrote:


faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
Can anyone explain why CS is not helping with cold sores for the past 
few weeks?  Thanks.   Faith G.


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Re: CSBlue man

[Michael Zangari]

I don't think anyone has come out and said it, but the Blue Man spent some time 
in a UV tanning bed.  
 
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The novelist, journalist and psychologist 
Michael Zangari 
http://zangarijournalism.com



- Original Message 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:21:19 AM
Subject: Re: CSBlue man

Also keep in mind that it does not take a lot of light to expose silver 
salts and make them form what is called a virtual image (which then can 
grow if additional salts are present).  How much? Well, take a camera 
with film in it, and INDOORS, open the lens for only one second.  Then 
develop the film. If you have any normal level of light, the film will 
most likely be totally and completely overexposed! You don't have to sun 
bath, walking outside on a winter day is likely enough.  Also the 
shorter wavelengths of light, such as UV which have a stronger effect on 
silver chloride easily penetrate clothing, as I sadly found out first 
hand once.  So I would expect that the argyria would be less, but not 
missing entirely on his body.  Of course a good bit of where it shows up 
and how badly could also be due to where he primarily applied it 
topically as well.

Marshall

Dave wrote:
  Maybe I read something into it that wasn't there but he said his feet 
 were also bluing and that his body was blue.
 Don't know what you saw but that is what I read. You can plainly see 
 his arms as well as his hands are discolored.
 Dave

 Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 If you watch the videos linked at the bottom of the SOTA page about 
 this fellow, you'll see that there's no apparent discoloration of his 
 body, especially the torso.

 This contrast between the skin on most of his body and his face is 
 really remarkable.This may support the photographic theory put 
 forth by long-time, reliable member M. Dudley, as the face would be 
 the part most exposed to sun.  Indeed, basal cell carcinoma is quite 
 common on the face, especially the nose, and the shoulders -- the 
 parts that get sunburned.

 One good point that came out of the interview:  the SOTA generator 
 was not the one he used.  The device shown in one news program 
 belonged to his fiance.The best news in all of this is that the 
 Blue Man does not have an apparent agenda and seems supportive of CS 
 to this day.





 On Monday, Feb 11, 2008, at 01:45 Asia/Tokyo, Dave wrote:

  The discoloration of his whole body kind of shoots down the theory 
 of photographic development it would seem.
 He was from Oregon and it is doubtful that he went around naked to 
 get the sun light to the places necessary for that to happen. He did 
 use Salt and then baking soda as a starter.
  Sota says it was sea salt which of course comes from the world's 
 septic tank and could contain anything from nuclear waste to many 
 other byproducts of war as well as medical waste and cruise ship 
 garbage to name a few.
  Why anyone would put such crap in their body is beyond me .
 Dave


 Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 See this link for an interview:

 http://www.sotainstruments.com/blue_man.asp



 On Sunday, Feb 10, 2008, at 11:39 Asia/Tokyo, His Child wrote:

 I noticed in his latest video that he kind of liked the attention 
 he's getting now with his publicity.  I sincerely hope for his 
 sake that he doesn't let this celebrity status go to his head to 
 the point that he doesn't diligently seek the cure for his 
 condition that has already been developed and used.  As I 
 understand it, now that he's blue, even clear silver would 
 aggravate his problem.  The clear silver does not in a normal 
 person allow the accumulation to take place and no blue condition 
 will result, unless the argeria is already started..

 His

 - Original Message 
 From: cyndiann cyndia...@earthlink.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2008 7:53:37 PM
 Subject: Re: CSBlue man

 His Child wrote:
  He's the same blue man, but a new video.
 I saw him on TV last week and he was drinking his silver and it 
 wasn't
 clear at all. It was very milky.

 Cyndi


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Re: CSfinger pointers

[Paula Perry]

I am in agreement with Frankie. One of the latest attacks launched by the FDA 
is Bioidentical hormones. Who's complaining? Why big Pharma of course. It's 
cutting into the horses urine they've been selling for years as hormone 
replacement.

If the FDA truely wanted to represent the people's wishes they would order 
labeling for GMO's and hormone laden milk, etc. etc. Peoples wishes and safety 
has little to do with it unless its such an outrageous violation that it gets 
mass publicity and people quit buying the products.

Ode, you seem to think it's okay for big Pharma to limit alt med. but not okay 
for alt med to fight back. Double standards. Pharma gets to attack anyone and 
everyone that offers the least competition and that seems okay with you.
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: joe bloggs 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:31 PM
  Subject: CSfinger pointers


  Ode said:

It was the peoples gulibility that made the FDA so many years ago and 
FDA rules, in turn, organized the Pharm into an entity that can accomplish 
the advances in medicine and chemistry that has become too complicated for 
even the FDA to comprehend.===That's like saying the 
bar-owners 'made' the mafia and the protection racket.  Now THAT'S a cop-out 
Ode.FDA approved drugs have killed more Americans than the Vietnam war.  You 
keep talking about Big Pharma and 'Natural' herbs as though they were equally 
powerful,equally culpable.  You seem to fail to understand the fundamental 
difference between the two.  The difference, as I see it, is that Big Pharma 
takes TOTAL control.  People who seek alternatives are those who are trying to 
takeresponsibility for their own health.  Big Pharma doesn't like that and 
makessure that government rulings stop it, or hinder it, or make it impossible 
for usto get the benefits of nature.  A good example would be the 
pasturisation of milk.We have all learned of the huge benefits of the natural 
enzymes in raw milk.  Butwhen the government outlaws raw milk and makes it a 
criminal offence to sell it,then this is wrong - no two ways about it Ode.  It 
is wrong to take that choiceaway from us.  But that is what's happening.  Our 
choices are being limited to what the FDA and the Big Pharma want us to be 
able to choose from and they willgo to any lengths to make sure that we go 
down the route that they have decreed.And you can't see anything wrong in 
that?  Wonder why.Frankie


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Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV-cotton therapy

[Dianne France]

Sam
On another group site someone posted organic cotton ball therapy and I'm not 
sure it would help virus's but the web site is 
http://www.naturalworldhealing.com/thefetalcure.htmhttp://www.naturalworldhealing.com/thefetalcure.htm.

I haven't personally tried it but thought it sounded interesting so I saved the 
site and was going to try and find organic cotton to try.  Sure would be a 
cheap experiment.  

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam L.mailto:one...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:59 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


  Here in Brazil they give vitamin C-B-A shots, 20 ml,  works real good. Ive 
had so many the last few months I just started giving them to myself. Pretty 
hairy experience the first time, but I learned fro watching them do it.. I 
thought about injecting CS but need more info. 
  I heard they killed dogs injecting CS, but at 50-100 times the level that a 
normal human would take. I would like to talk to a MD about this if I could 
find one who was open to the idea. Drug addicts inject some nasty stuff into 
there veins and seem to survive. 
  Proceed with caution, more investigation is needed.
  Got hold of a nasty bug here, been trying everything, antibiotics didn't work 
so must be a virus. 

  Sam L.

Re: CSfinger pointers

[Ode Coyote]

  Black and white, it just isn't.
 You can use all the herbs you want...even weed, even though it's illegal.
The Mob was a result of demand and laws against supplying it.
The people created the mob AND the laws with that demand and what 
satisfying that desire does.
 I've watched loved ones kill themselves slow with booze and suck 100s of 
thousands out of the public till in the process, but that's not black and 
white either.


FDA approved drugs have killed more Americans than the Vietnam war?
 What bullshit.Compare that number to those who wouldn't be alive without 
them.  Go ahead, dig it up and look.

Think it through.
You might as well say that Hospitals kill 90% of all people who die, never 
mind that only those about to die go there and 10% just don't live long 
enough to arrive.  Otherwise, hospitals would kill 100% of all the dead 
people, eventually.


Sure the system has problems, sure business wants to maximize 
profits..not just the Pharma but every Tom, Dick and Harry that will sell 
you anything you'll buy for as much as you'll pay.
 Put THOSE guys in charge of honesty and accurate info!   That'll 
work?  ..and TV preachers actually give all that money to God.


The internet is the free market for information and 80% is total BS and Hype.

Without the FDA and FTC what would it ALL be like?
No food labeling at all, not just limited and warped, but total lies if 
anything at all anyone can promote anything as a cure and scare the 
heck out of you with chemtrails so you'll flock to their stores as you 
refuse to learn anything about clouds, water, weather and combustion 
principles.
Just look around at all the complete HOOEY there **IS**, vacuuming  pocket 
lint out of the the anti-faithful fools and then take stock about 
control. [They are LOSING it, big time...buried in an AVALANCHE of 
marketing bullshit with only the ability to focus on the *most* potentially 
harmful. ]


 Total control  my eye.  You can see liars selling everything imaginable 
from Q Ray bracelets to detoxing foot pads that do nothing but make your 
feet clean, to all sorts of weight loss products and diet pills with 
people over-amping on natural Ephedra, to 26 cent magnets selling for 
$60 to clip to your ear to quit smoking and perky pecker products 
galore...all manner of gas saving devises that just don't function, you 
name it.

Buy this, because THEY are evil

  We're buried in it!

NO ONE has the mis and dis-information market cornered.

I have no love for the authorities, but given the condition of mankind, I 
can sure see the need for them if a goodly portion is to survive.
If they are a bit corrupt?  It's because they are the same people that we 
are, only they have TOUGHER rules to *get around* and only have the 
manpower to control the biggest offenders.



People who seek alternatives are those who are trying to take
responsibility for their own health.

Why YES!  And GO FOR IT!!!  [That's what I've been saying all along ]
If that does the job better, it will win its share.  You don't buy things 
you don't believe you need and those which you do are available, legal or not.
  Demand creates supply and supply just can't be stopped. The complete 
failure of the war on drugs is the proof.
 No one CAN make you buy something you don't believe you need...and no one 
MAKES you believe anything at all, no matter who you blame for your own 
thoughts.


I say, let's just let stupid be stupid and see how many live through it if 
they have to take the full consequences of their own activities.
 The reality is, that's how it is, DESPITE efforts to legislate and 
enforce laws against stupidity and ignorance.


But that said, the state of the *onion* has become so complex that NO one 
can comprehend everything.
 Bio-chemistry AND the herbal arts are a study in progress ...with... 
all the quirks and dangers.

No two people are the same, so OF COURSE, there will be problems.

 I tell ya bud, if you can't see past simplistic black vs white, you don't 
have a prayer with multi layered real world onions.

Good luck. [I mean that..you'll need lots of it ]

There is no barrier that determined quiet people can't undermine.
But
That takes digging
 Just ask a Mexican... fence?  Just something to walk around to take 
that job that no one else wants because it's hard and you don't get to go 
home every night.
 I ran nomadic tree planting crews in the 80s for what amounts to $200-300 
tax free dollars a day, nowand couldn't find enough people.

 Now, it's all Mexicans doing it for a lot less.

 ANYTHING that the dollar spent, demands shalt be sold..
Legality is only a hindrance.

 Want raw milk?  Get a goat!
Town won't let you have one??  MOVE.
Or feed it in your spare bedroom and don't tell anyone.
If you don't wash those teets or your hands and get sick...your problem.
 Make your neighbor sick?  You'll wish for pasteurization when he sues 
your buttocks off.
 Needed or not, bad or not, it's about self defense wherever my 

Re: CSfinger pointers

[KENNETH TUURI]

- Original Message -
From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:29 am
Subject: Re: CSfinger pointers
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 I am in agreement with Frankie. One of the latest attacks 
 launched by the FDA is Bioidentical hormones. Who's complaining? 
 Why big Pharma of course. It's cutting into the horses urine 
 they've been selling for years as hormone replacement.
 
 If the FDA truely wanted to represent the people's wishes they 
 would order labeling for GMO's and hormone laden milk, etc. etc. 
 Peoples wishes and safety has little to do with it unless its 
 such an outrageous violation that it gets mass publicity and 
 people quit buying the products.
 
 Ode, you seem to think it's okay for big Pharma to limit alt 
 med. but not okay for alt med to fight back. Double standards. 
 Pharma gets to attack anyone and everyone that offers the least 
 competition and that seems okay with you.
 Paula
 
  Well I'm not Ode, but I have been following what he has been saying and I 
don't get that from what he is saying and he does say alot :)
 I'm not a big fan of the FDA or Big Pharma but as I have come to find in life, 
sometimes we have to take the good with the bad. But sometimes we can also weed 
through the BS and just grab the good.
 
 When my appendixes bust this past summer, I was sure glad when I got to the 
Hospital, that they had that wonder drug called Morphine. I would have hated to 
go through the trouble to find and smoke some opium or Crack to get rid of the 
pain. I just had a thought maybe Heroin was what I should have been looking 
for. Excuse me for taking the Morphine!
 
 I think Ode is saying if we don't like something, get off our ass and do 
something about it. Action is where's it's at and words (crying) is NOT ACTION 
it is talk and talk is cheap. I find many can talk a good game but fall far 
short when it comes to action.
 Words have little meaning to me if there is no ACTION and far to many people 
like to use words without action. 

 Someone else said the FDA banned raw milk. FDA sucks, but stop the crying for 
a few minutes and go to a Diray framer and go get some. If you want milk you 
can get milk, get in your car drive to a farm and get some. That is taking 
ACTION and that is being resonable for one own actions! Does it suck that we 
have to go to them lenghts, it sure does. But until you've done it, your just 
farting into the wind sort of speak.
 Is the farm to far (sob,sob poor me) well form a pool or a co-op, get a few 
people together and take turns going to get it. If you want it, you can get 
it!! How bad do you want it!! If you won't go the distance to get it, then you 
lose the right to cry about it (in my book).  But if you go to the lenghts to 
get it, then you have earned the right to cry about it and can yell to the 
highest office (good luck). Most I find like to cry but won't go the lenghts to 
get something done. Just because we want the milk from the cow doesn't mean we 
have to be lead like cattle. Many here have chossen a different path then the 
norm, but the path at times leads uphill.
 
 I believe in looking for the good in most things and I sure as hell would hate 
to see things if there was not some sort of control, as corrupt as they can be. 
If they weren't there, every crack pot would be selling their snake oil 
miracule cure on every conner.

 Ever wonder why our life expetdentcy is alot more now than it was a 100 years 
ago. Think about that for a minute.
 
 For me it's about finding Balance. Do I like Big Parma or the FDA, NO!!  But I 
will steal some of the good they have done and I will also serach out in all 
other areas and take what I believe to be useful and dispose of the rest or 
leave it for another look some other day.
 
 My key is to find a Balance out there. There are many Truths out there but no 
one Truth.
 
  Ken
 - Original Message - 
   From: joe bloggs 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:31 PM
   Subject: CSfinger pointers
 
 
   Ode said:
 
 It was the peoples gulibility that made the FDA so many years 
 ago and FDA rules, in turn, organized the Pharm into an 
 entity that can accomplish the advances in medicine and 
 chemistry that has become too complicated for even the FDA to 
 comprehend.===That's like saying the bar-
 owners 'made' the mafia and the protection racket.  Now 
 THAT'S a cop-out Ode.FDA approved drugs have killed more 
 Americans than the Vietnam war.  You keep talking about Big 
 Pharma and 'Natural' herbs as though they were equally 
 powerful,equally culpable.  You seem to fail to understand 
 the fundamental difference between the two.  The 
 difference, as I see it, is that Big Pharma takes TOTAL 
 control.  People who seek alternatives are those who are 
 trying to takeresponsibility for their own health.  Big 
 Pharma doesn't like that and makessure that government rulings 
 stop it, or 

CSPure silver Particles in home made CS.

[alchemysa]

Subject:
Re: CSBlue man
From:
Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
Date:
Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:22:55 +0200
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com


Hi Dan,

Theoretically it is possible to get much more that Faraday output. Microscopically the 
electrolysis mines holes in the electrode. Particles which are undermined and fall off into the 
liquid add to the mix  but are unaccounted for in the equation. 


OK,
Tony


 

I'm sure this is correct. I've mentioned it here in the past. Close 
examination of a well used electrode with a magnifying glass will reveal 
a surface resembling a cratered moonscape - just perfect for creating 
particles. The cathode (the electrode that receives a rough plating of 
silver) is especially conducive to creating tiny silver particles that 
are shed when the electrodes are swapped.


The idea that all the particles in home-made CS are various silver 
compounds,  rather than pure silver particles, is promoted by the likes 
of Mesosilver and repeated ad-nauseam. Mesosilver (silver-colloids.com) 
have analysed many batches of CS and have confirmed the generally 
accepted figure of about 15% particles in a good quality CS batch. But 
mesosilver can't or won't reveal what those particles are actually made 
of. I suspect theres more pure silver in those particles than they would 
like to admit.


David

Re: CSfinger pointers

[Dee]

Hi Frankie, why do your emails go right across the page, so I have to scroll
from side to side?  Just wondering.  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Joe bloggs 

Date: 11/02/2008 22:00:37 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CSfinger pointers 

 

Ode said: 

 

It was the peoples gulibility that made the FDA so many years ago and 
FDA rules, in turn, organized the Pharm into an entity that can accomplish 
the advances in medicine and chemistry that has become too complicated for 
even the FDA to comprehend.===That's like saying the 
bar-owners 'made' the Mafia and the protection racket. Now THAT'S a cop-out 
Ode.


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Re: CSCold Sores

[Dee]

That's odd. Are you sure you have silver in the mix? Normally, 10ppm silver
will get rid of this almost immediately. Have you tried taking the silver
internally and maybe l-lysine say, 2000mgs per day? This mix got rid of my
shingles (I.e.. Herpes/cold sores) in under two weeks! Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Tad Winiecki 

Date: 12/02/2008 12:45:44 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CSCold Sores 

 

Try alternating yogurt with aloe Vera gel scraped from a fresh leaf. 

 

Nancy 

 

On Feb 11, 2008, at 6:56 PM, norm donatien wrote: 

 

 faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: 

 Can anyone explain why CS is not helping with cold sores for the past 

 few weeks? Thanks. Faith G. 

 

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Re: CSBlue man

[Dee]

I wonder why! Dee 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Michael Zangari 

Date: 12/02/2008 09:00:27 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CSBlue man 

 

I don't think anyone has come out and said it, but the Blue Man spent some
time in a UV tanning bed. 

 

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CSInulin

[Dee]

Hi all, but particularly Duncan, (sorry Duncan) I have just received Mercolas 
newsletter and he castigates the fructose corn syrup type thing as being a 
major health hazard. He goes on to say that it is in many disguises, one of 
them being inulin, and chicory. Any comments? Dee PS I have to say that I 
stopped taking inulin because it gave me unbearable gas.


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Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV

[Nenah Sylver]

http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/  sells injectible silver and is working 
with doctors who know how to do the injections. Contact them for more info.

Nenah

RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV

[bob Larson]

works fast and well, but builds up silver deposits in the lungs if done too
much too often (from what i read somewhere)
  -Original Message-
  From: sickleave48...@aol.com [mailto:sickleave48...@aol.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:05 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


  Next best thing to injections I would think is CS in a Nebulizer. This
should get it in your blood.
  Bob

RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV

[bob Larson]

drinking homebrew CS for 1.5 years now has pretty much beat my toenail
fungus.  all nice and grown out except the last 1/8 or so of the big toes.
the right big toe was the worst, all thickened so it got crowned up and
narrow, and the corners would ingrow and be painful, but it's grown out
normal and no more problem.  i paint iodine all around the big toe nail
edges when i dry after bathing.

look at the ingredients for Tetrasil, an expensive topical salve (might be
what you're talking about) and notice it's largely jajoba oil.  buy some
jajoba oil, or use aloe slime, or both, and add tetrasilver which can be
purchased as a hot tub disinfectant (alternative to chlorine) called Silspa.
i got mine online.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:36 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


 I've heard of Tetrasilver salve for nail fungus.  Is there a way to
 make this?

 Nancy


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RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver for Hot Tub

[Geoecom]

Hi Bob ...folks

I am trying CS in my in-house Hot Tub that we use every night.

We use to use Chlorine but the gas has coated a toy train layout, in the same 
room and I want to use something else. (Not to mintion the health issue)
I make my own CS and have used it in the Hot tub. My wife says there is an oder 
in useing the CS, I tried a few things  and it caused a mess. I was wondering 
if anyone knows of something that could be added to CS in a hot tub and still 
give
a nice smell. I have about 1 gal of CS now in the 250 gal tap water hot tub. I 
have read that one should be able to go about 3 months with the filter running 
as usual. Any one have any experance, or thoughts on this.

George

-Original Message-
From: bob Larson bobl...@cablespeed.com
Sent: Feb 12, 2008 8:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV

drinking homebrew CS for 1.5 years now has pretty much beat my toenail
fungus.  all nice and grown out except the last 1/8 or so of the big toes.
the right big toe was the worst, all thickened so it got crowned up and
narrow, and the corners would ingrow and be painful, but it's grown out
normal and no more problem.  i paint iodine all around the big toe nail
edges when i dry after bathing.

look at the ingredients for Tetrasil, an expensive topical salve (might be
what you're talking about) and notice it's largely jajoba oil.  buy some
jajoba oil, or use aloe slime, or both, and add tetrasilver which can be
purchased as a hot tub disinfectant (alternative to chlorine) called Silspa.
i got mine online.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:36 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


 I've heard of Tetrasilver salve for nail fungus.  Is there a way to
 make this?

 Nancy


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Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV

[Marshall Dudley]

Dr. James Paul wrote:

Re. Colloidal Silver IV.
The above subject heading is relevant.
Is there anyone in this group who is familiar or knows anything about 
colloidal silver IV use. Please contact me.
 
Regards,
 
James Paul.
I presume that the IV means InterVenous and not 4.  I am not sure anyone 
in this group has raken it that way. There are a number of papers on the 
net about using it for HIV, AIDS, MS, Lukemia and so forth.  YOu might 
want to do a google search for colloidal silver IV


Marshall


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Fw: CSRe.Colloidal Silver for Hot Tub

[Nenah Sylver]

- Original Message - 
From: Geoecom geoe...@ipa.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver for Hot Tub



...I am trying CS in my in-house Hot Tub that we use every night
I make my own CS and have used it in the Hot tub. My wife says there is an 
oder in useing the CS, I tried a few things  and it caused a mess. I was 
wondering if anyone knows of something that could be added to CS in a hot 
tub and still give a nice smell.



George,
Try essential oil of lavender. It also has some germicidal properties on its
own.

Nenah


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Re: CSfinger pointers

[Arnold Beland]

Ode,
An old Roman dude summed all this up.
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
Titus Petronius Arbiter (d. 66).
The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived!

Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: CSfinger pointers



  Black and white, it just isn't.
 You can use all the herbs you want...even weed, even though it's 
illegal.

The Mob was a result of demand and laws against supplying it.
The people created the mob AND the laws with that demand and what 
satisfying that desire does.
 I've watched loved ones kill themselves slow with booze and suck 100s of 
thousands out of the public till in the process, but that's not black and 
white either.


FDA approved drugs have killed more Americans than the Vietnam war?
 What bullshit.Compare that number to those who wouldn't be alive without 
them.  Go ahead, dig it up and look.

Think it through.
You might as well say that Hospitals kill 90% of all people who die, never 
mind that only those about to die go there and 10% just don't live long 
enough to arrive.  Otherwise, hospitals would kill 100% of all the dead 
people, eventually.


Sure the system has problems, sure business wants to maximize 
profits..not just the Pharma but every Tom, Dick and Harry that will 
sell you anything you'll buy for as much as you'll pay.
 Put THOSE guys in charge of honesty and accurate info!   That'll work? 
..and TV preachers actually give all that money to God.


The internet is the free market for information and 80% is total BS and 
Hype.


Without the FDA and FTC what would it ALL be like?
No food labeling at all, not just limited and warped, but total lies if 
anything at all anyone can promote anything as a cure and scare the 
heck out of you with chemtrails so you'll flock to their stores as you 
refuse to learn anything about clouds, water, weather and combustion 
principles.
Just look around at all the complete HOOEY there **IS**, vacuuming  pocket 
lint out of the the anti-faithful fools and then take stock about 
control. [They are LOSING it, big time...buried in an AVALANCHE of 
marketing bullshit with only the ability to focus on the *most* 
potentially harmful. ]


 Total control  my eye.  You can see liars selling everything imaginable 
from Q Ray bracelets to detoxing foot pads that do nothing but make your 
feet clean, to all sorts of weight loss products and diet pills with 
people over-amping on natural Ephedra, to 26 cent magnets selling for 
$60 to clip to your ear to quit smoking and perky pecker products 
galore...all manner of gas saving devises that just don't function, you 
name it.

Buy this, because THEY are evil

  We're buried in it!

NO ONE has the mis and dis-information market cornered.

I have no love for the authorities, but given the condition of mankind, I 
can sure see the need for them if a goodly portion is to survive.
If they are a bit corrupt?  It's because they are the same people that 
we are, only they have TOUGHER rules to *get around* and only have the 
manpower to control the biggest offenders.



People who seek alternatives are those who are trying to take
responsibility for their own health.

Why YES!  And GO FOR IT!!!  [That's what I've been saying all along ]
If that does the job better, it will win its share.  You don't buy things 
you don't believe you need and those which you do are available, legal or 
not.
  Demand creates supply and supply just can't be stopped. The complete 
failure of the war on drugs is the proof.
 No one CAN make you buy something you don't believe you need...and no one 
MAKES you believe anything at all, no matter who you blame for your own 
thoughts.


I say, let's just let stupid be stupid and see how many live through it if 
they have to take the full consequences of their own activities.
 The reality is, that's how it is, DESPITE efforts to legislate and 
enforce laws against stupidity and ignorance.


But that said, the state of the *onion* has become so complex that NO one 
can comprehend everything.
 Bio-chemistry AND the herbal arts are a study in progress ...with... 
all the quirks and dangers.

No two people are the same, so OF COURSE, there will be problems.

 I tell ya bud, if you can't see past simplistic black vs white, you don't 
have a prayer with multi layered real world onions.

Good luck. [I mean that..you'll need lots of it ]

There is no barrier that determined quiet people can't undermine.
But
That takes digging
 Just ask a Mexican... fence?  Just something to walk around to take 
that job that no one else wants because it's hard and you don't get to go 
home every night.
 I ran nomadic tree planting crews in the 80s for what amounts to $200-300 
tax free dollars a day, nowand couldn't find enough people.

 Now, it's all Mexicans doing it for a lot less.

 ANYTHING that the dollar spent, demands shalt 

CSCS Gel and the Blue Man

[Silver Smith]

List,

I purchased a gel kit from Silverpuppy and have several teenagers using it,
very successfully, for acne.  One Mom even stated,  it works better than
that stuff on TV.  With the advent of the blue man who reports he used CS
on his skin/face for dermatitis, should I be concerned for these teenagers
that use it daily?  I have been making my gel with @ 30 ppm clear CS.

Thanks,

SS

CSSilspa

[Silvia Messmer]

Would soaking in a spa treated with Silspa cause any silver intake through
the skin?

Silvia
www.imageevent.com/redskyahts




-Original Message-
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:07 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


drinking homebrew CS for 1.5 years now has pretty much beat my toenail
fungus.  all nice and grown out except the last 1/8 or so of the big toes.
the right big toe was the worst, all thickened so it got crowned up and
narrow, and the corners would ingrow and be painful, but it's grown out
normal and no more problem.  i paint iodine all around the big toe nail
edges when i dry after bathing.

look at the ingredients for Tetrasil, an expensive topical salve (might be
what you're talking about) and notice it's largely jajoba oil.  buy some
jajoba oil, or use aloe slime, or both, and add tetrasilver which can be
purchased as a hot tub disinfectant (alternative to chlorine) called Silspa.
i got mine online.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:36 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


 I've heard of Tetrasilver salve for nail fungus.  Is there a way to
 make this?

 Nancy


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RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver for Hot Tub

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 09:17 AM 2/12/2008, you wrote:
I make my own CS and have used it in the Hot tub. My wife says there is an 
oder in useing the CS, I tried a few things  and it caused a mess.


 I think you are fighting the wrong thing, and blaming the wrong thing.

CS normally kills all odors, . proven time and time again by 
some of the most cautious animals on the face of this earth.


Take another look and another analysis.

Something in the water must be the reason, and might be reacting with CS, 
but you need to try to find the answer.


Wayne

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RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 
I wonder if it does build up in lungs would it show on x rays
Bob

  _  

From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:07 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


works fast and well, but builds up silver deposits in the lungs if done
too much too often (from what i read somewhere)

-Original Message-
From: sickleave48...@aol.com [mailto:sickleave48...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:05 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV



Next best thing to injections I would think is CS in a Nebulizer. This
should get it in your blood.
Bob
 

 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

Re: CSBlue man

[Clayton Family]

So do I, with no problems.

On Feb 12, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Michael Zangari wrote:

I don't think anyone has come out and said it, but the Blue Man spent 
some time in a UV tanning bed. 

 
=z=
The novelist, journalist and psychologist
Michael Zangari
http://zangarijournalism.com


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RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 
I wonder what they do different to make it for I V use, any ideas
Bob

  _  

From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV


http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/  sells injectible silver and is
working with doctors who know how to do the injections. Contact them for
more info.
 
Nenah
 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

Re: CSCold Sores

[Clayton Family]

I have had exposure to mold toxins in the air here, and one of the 
effects of that is to cause cold sores to appear and not go away, even 
with the silver.  I have not been successful in entirely eliminating 
the exposure, so far.


If there is exposure to mold toxins in the air or in the diet, it can 
cause that. It messes with the immune response, so if it is that, you 
will not catch a cold or anything like that, but you will have cold 
sores. There has been a lot of work done about this in animals, and 
somehow those results are not usually applied to humans.


Kathryn

On Feb 11, 2008, at 8:07 PM, faith gagne wrote:

Can anyone explain why CS is not helping with cold sores for the past 
few weeks?  Thanks.   Faith G.


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Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Marshall Dudley]

I don't believe silver will build up in the lungs.  The lungs clear 
particles by oxidizing them with H2O2. H2O2 is very effective in 
converting silver particles to silver oxide, which is then absorbed into 
the blood stream.  I believe this is supported by the fact that 
inhalation of silver particles can cause argyria, the only possible 
mechanism is if the particles are converted to a soluble compound of 
silver, and absorbed into the blood stream.


Marshall

Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:


Classification: _* UNCLASSIFIED*_

Caveats: NONE

I wonder if it does build up in lungs would it show on x rays
Bob


*From:* bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:07 AM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* RE: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV

works fast and well, but builds up silver deposits in the lungs if 
done too much too often (from what i read somewhere)


-Original Message-
*From:* sickleave48...@aol.com [mailto:sickleave48...@aol.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:05 AM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV

Next best thing to injections I would think is CS in a Nebulizer.
This should get it in your blood.
Bob
 


Classification: _* UNCLASSIFIED*_

Caveats: NONE





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CScold sore/fever blister, trick

[larry tankersley]

... for those that are serious/sick of the problem
My experience in using CS, DMSO, Alo, etc. has been less than satisfactory. 
 What has worked for me is a 9-Volt battery with silver probes attached; the  
minute you feel the first sensation and think Oh s--t, stop what you are doing, 
wet you lip with CS,or lick, and place the probes on each side of the sensation 
and zap till a burning sensation, remove and do several more times and continue 
doing such as often as possible for the next few hours.
 I've suffered from this virus since childhood, thanks Mom ! 
 Past three years the worst case has been, when I didn't jump on it 
immediately, [get out of bed, or ever what, seemed more important] was a small 
pin head size eruption.  
 For what ever reason I've not had to deal with one for a year or so, very 
rare, but think it would be wishful thinking that I've eliminated the little 
buggers! ... perhaps it's frighten them ;-) they're very smart and maybe 
looking for a better ploy for VIVA YO.
 The connectors for the 9V bat. can be had at Radio shack, all you have to do 
is attach the silver probes to the wire leads.

larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA

Re: CSCold Sores

[faith gagne]

Well, it is very damp here and some people have trouble with the dampness 
but I never thought it bothereed me.  Maybe I've been wrong about that. 
Thanks Kathryn.  Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: CSCold Sores


I have had exposure to mold toxins in the air here, and one of the
effects of that is to cause cold sores to appear and not go away, even
with the silver.  I have not been successful in entirely eliminating
the exposure, so far.

If there is exposure to mold toxins in the air or in the diet, it can
cause that. It messes with the immune response, so if it is that, you
will not catch a cold or anything like that, but you will have cold
sores. There has been a lot of work done about this in animals, and
somehow those results are not usually applied to humans.

Kathryn

On Feb 11, 2008, at 8:07 PM, faith gagne wrote:

Can anyone explain why CS is not helping with cold sores for the past few 
weeks? Thanks. Faith G.


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CSText across the page

[joe bloggs]

Hi Frankie, why do your emails go right across the page, so I have to scroll
from side to side?  Just wondering.  Dee  
-
I don't know Dee but I've noticed this with other people's messages too.

To read such a message I have to highlight, copy, then paste the message onto
a word document so I can read it without all that irritating scrolling
across and stuff.
Frankie



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Re: CSBlue man

[Michael Zangari]

I think uv light is very interesting indeed. My only point is that the blue 
man's blue is significantly enhanced by tanning under ultraviolet light. UV 
really depletes vitamins, but if tuned right creates an infusion of incredible 
depth.
 
=z= 
The novelist, journalist and psychologist 
Michael Zangari 
http://zangarijournalism.com



- Original Message 
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:45:14 PM
Subject: Re: CSBlue man

So do I, with no problems.

On Feb 12, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Michael Zangari wrote:

 I don't think anyone has come out and said it, but the Blue Man spent 
 some time in a UV tanning bed. 
  
 =z=
 The novelist, journalist and psychologist
 Michael Zangari
 http://zangarijournalism.com

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Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

RE: CSText across the page solution

[George Knoll]

Hi, 
I own a small computer store in a small town in Arkansas and have
worked on computers sence the 80's.

I would like to suggest you check your vidio screen settings(better known as 
display settings), 
as mine is set high enough that I don't have the problem you are having. The 
trade off on this
is a smaller page and harder to read unless you have a large monitor 17 in or 
larger.

You may be useing 640 by 480 insted of a 800 x xxx that works better on 
internet.

solution: 1  On the desktop do a right mouse click in an open area.(not near an 
icon)
in the small box that opens ..select the properties at the bottom.
 2. then on the settings tab at the top of the page click it
  3 and look at the Screen Resolution mine is set at 1024 by 768
  4  slide the bar to the right and this increases your Res.
  5  this makes the screen dot pix smaller and more will get on a 
page
  6 Win xp will give you a preview and ask youto conferm your new
 setting.  (If it is just to small then leave it and you will 
have to live
 with the scrolling exp.) It is harder to read and you may not 
like it
  One can experment and choose the size that best fits your 
tast.
Hope this helps and I just wanted to give back to the group as I have felt I 
have 
taken in so much from this glogal fellowship.

George

- Original Message - 
From: joe bloggs 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 2/12/2008 6:17:55 PM 
Subject: CSText across the page


Hi Frankie, why do your emails go right across the page, so I have to 
scrollfrom side to side?  Just wondering.  Dee  -I don't 
know Dee but I've noticed this with other people's messages too.To read such a 
message I have to highlight, copy, then paste the message ontoa word document 
so I can read it without all that irritating scrollingacross and stuff.Frankie



Messenger on the move. Text MSN to 63463 now! 

Re: CSText across the page

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Frankie,

 At 06:16 PM 2/12/2008, you wrote:


To read such a message I have to highlight, copy, then paste the message onto
a word document so I can read it without all that irritating scrolling
across and stuff.
Frankie


  I wonder why your message is so small and pale ?
I guess you are set to plain text and maybe 10 or 8 point.

About 99 % of all messages show up fine for me.

There is a setting called Word Wrap and  most can set the mailer not to 
spread a message across the screen.


My mailer never spreads a message off the screen, no matter what.

A good mailer handles the fonts, text, ect, . most of the time.

While many can handle only Plain Text,  that is a
disaster also.

Wayne

==

Re: CSCold Sores

[Brooks Bradley]

Cold sores are caused by Herpes Simplex I  (HVS-1), a virus which is present in a large portion of the human population.  While quite vexing in some cases, it, alone, is not life threateningnor a major health challenge in its principal presentations.  The herpes family of viruses may be driven quiescent, temporarily, but are lifetime companions of the afflicted.  This is typical of viruses in general. There are many treatments for acute outbreaksmost palliative in nature.  One protocol we have found to be particularly effective is the employment of lysine (many use the ointment applied topically) taken at approximately 300 mg daily, together with the topical use of a lysine/DMSO solution.  The favored (by us) solution strength is 20% DMSO (by volume) mixed with a super-saturated solution of lysine..applied to the blisters 
once each hour the first day and once each 2 hours thereafter---until the eruptions are controlled (usually by day 3).  One convenient method for making a super-saturated lysine solution is by placing about one ounce of water in a small glass container and adding powdered lysine until no more will go into solutionthen add 20% (by volume) full strength DMSO.  It is quite easy to use cotton Q-tips to apply the solution to the blisters.  One suggestion;  try to avoid licking your lips for about 2 minutes after applying the solution, but be sure not to lick them for at least one minute-to insure an acceptable tissue penetration of the solution.  One ounce of this solution will be sufficient to treat many "cold sores".  This, particular, solution has a very long shelf life.
 If any of the lesions are infected at the time of treatment, just add 10% (by volume) CS at 10 ppm strengthto the parent solution. 
 If you are a "physical coward" (as am I), the application of any quality aloe vera gel
producta few minutes prior to applying the DMSO X Lysine protocol-will yield welcome
pain reduction.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.  




-[ Received Mail Content ]--
 Subject : Re: CSCold Sores
 Date : Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:56:36 -0500
 From : faith gagne jitte...@gis.net
 To : silver-list@eskimo.com

Well, it is very damp here and some people have trouble with the dampness 
but I never thought it bothereed me.  Maybe I've been wrong about that. 
Thanks Kathryn.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: "Clayton Family" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cold Sores


I have had exposure to mold toxins in the air here, and one of the
effects of that is to cause cold sores to appear and not go away, even
with the silver.  I have not been successful in entirely eliminating
the exposure, so far.

If there is exposure to mold toxins in the air or in the diet, it can
cause that. It messes with the immune response, so if it is that, you
will not catch a cold or anything like that, but you will have cold
sores. There has been a lot of work done about this in animals, and
somehow those results are not usually applied to humans.

Kathryn

On Feb 11, 2008, at 8:07 PM, faith gagne wrote:

> Can anyone explain why CS is not helping with cold sores for the past few 
> weeks? Thanks. Faith G.

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Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Brooks Bradley]

 Hello Marshall,  
  All of our research tends to confirm your comments on this matter.Brooks.


-[ Received Mail Content ]--
 Subject : Re: CSRe.Colloidal Silver IV (UNCLASSIFIED)
 Date : Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:29:51 -0500
 From : Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
 To : silver-list@eskimo.com

I don't believe silver will build up in the lungs.  The lungs clear 
particles by oxidizing them with H2O2. H2O2 is very effective in 
converting silver particles to silver oxide, which is then absorbed into 
the blood stream.  I believe this is supported by the fact that 
inhalation of silver particles can cause argyria, the only possible 
mechanism is if the particles are converted to a soluble compound of 
silver, and absorbed into the blood stream.

Marshall

Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:
>
> Classification: _* UNCLASSIFIED*_
>
> Caveats: NONE
>
> I wonder if it does build up in lungs would it show on x rays
> Bob
>
> 
> *From:* bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:07 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: CS>Re.Colloidal Silver IV
>
> works fast and well, but builds up silver deposits in the lungs if 
> done too much too often (from what i read somewhere)
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* sickleave48...@aol.com [mailto:sickleave48...@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:05 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Re.Colloidal Silver IV
>
> Next best thing to injections I would think is CS in a Nebulizer.
> This should get it in your blood.
> Bob
>  
>
> Classification: _* UNCLASSIFIED*_
>
> Caveats: NONE
>



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Hi,
 
Thanks for your replys to my last question.  I recently asked  about a 
generator sold to me by Mike Metcalf.   I don't know how good  this one is 
because I 
get black residue (flakes) from the silver wires if I use  it for more than 
one batch, then I have to clean them.   Does  anyone know if this happens 
because I have the unit on between batches?  I  have been looking at the 
SiverGen 
and the Colloid Master Universal.   The colloid model is at 
_www.wishgranted.com_ (http://www.wishgranted.com) .  The Colloid  Master has a 
kit which comes 
with a distiller.  Both of  these seem like much better units, please give me 
any of your  opinions.   I don't get on line all everyday but it is good to  
talk to others who feel similar to myself with regard to the silver  usage.  I 
do appreciate the information I have gotten from this  site, thank you, Lynn.



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