Re: CS>Everyone vaccinated for covid will DIE, warns French virologist – NaturalNews.com

[Steve G]

Checking on this it appears that Luc has never said this. 

On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 03:46:51 PM EDT, Gmail  
wrote:  
 
 
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-25-everyone-vaccinated-will-die-within-two-years.html

This is the way the world ends: not with a bang, but with a whimper.T.S. Eliot










  

CS>Re: L-Tryptophan

[Steve G]

I was curious about the L-Tryptophan, so I looked it up on WebMD, which I 
consider to be pretty trustworthy.   They pointed out that there are numerous 
foods from which we can obtain all the tryptophan we need by eating a healthy 
well-balanced diet.   They listed out numerous foods that contain tryptophan.
In addition, they do publish a list of ten side-effects that can be due to 
L-tryptophan.   So I wouldn't say there are 'no side effects.'   
Virtually anything you can consume has side effects for someone, so when there 
is a claim of no side-effects for something I get curious and nose around a bit 
online.  
As far as Cipro goes, it seems to be something which rarely causes trouble, but 
when it does, it can cause substantial trouble.  So I think the warning against 
the use of Cipro or other antibiotics that utilize fluoride is well warranted.
Having said all this, I WILL claim there are no side-effects of any homeopathic 
preparation.   My rationale for that is that regardless of which homeopathic 
preparation one is taking, if it is prepared according to homeopathic 
guidelines it is extremely unlikely that even one atom of the original 
substance would be contained in the homeopathic preparation, and that the 
homeopathic 'medicine' will be impossible to differentiate from distilled water.



 

On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 10:41:17 PM EDT, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi,
I would like to warn people to be on the alert for doctors who still prescribe 
CIPRO (an antibiotic derived from fluoride).  I was greatly harmed by this one 
and am currently taking homeopathic remedies years after the obvious damage was 
done.  The last time I checked, there were 17 antibiotics with different names 
using this remedy from hell.  CIPRO is just a short name to describe 
Ciprofloxacin.  This deadly antibiotic has at least one black box warning so 
the FDA is not unaware of this.
It is loudly trumpeted that it effectively treats anthrax.  OK, maybe it does 
but in my opinion it should be banned until anthrax rears its head, and if it 
does, surely there are many more things that will work with less side effects.
They hand this prescription out like it is candy for all manner of things such 
as UTI (I drink colloidal silver), and give it to people who have had surgery 
for burst tendons, even though one of the many, many side effects is burst 
tendons.  
And by the way, Prozac is made with fluoride.  I remember when Prozac was put 
on the market and 'they' immediately went after L-Tryptophan to force it off 
the market. They said, there was some contaminated L-Tryptophan and this was 
done for our safety.  One of the most unusual side effects of Prozac is that it 
can cause a person to suddenly gamble away their life savings.  As far as I 
know, L-Trptophan is safe as can be and is greatly beneficial for sleep and to 
relieve stress.  In other words, no side effects.
Jean

  

Re: CS>The Truth Behind Bill Gates' Depopulation Agenda - YouTube

[Steve G]

Whenever I see a video with Bill Gates talking and gesticulating, what I see 
instead is Woody Allen instead.
I clicked on the link in the email and watched as much as I could stand.   This 
was in spite of my normal protocol to NEVER click on links in bulletin board 
emails that contain nothing except a link.
That's just me though, others can do whatever they want.
Steve

 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 07:14:56 AM EDT, Gmail 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PYIlH_jHHc


The germ is nothing; the terrain is everything. 
Louis Pasteur






  

Re: CS>conspiracy abounds

[Steve G]

I've been in the silverlist for years now.  I've mostly been on the sidelines 
for the last 8 years or so, but recently have been more involved and reading 
more of the emails that come through.
It's my personal observation that the character of the silverlist has changed 
dramatically from when I was first involved.  When I first became involved, 
almost all discussion was on the various uses of the CS and how to get the most 
benefit, how to brew it properly and so on.   Now I'm seeing very little of 
that, but a great deal of conspiracy theory.  My general take on conspiracy 
theories is that they are the product of the imagination of people who want to 
have their lives to be bigger than they are actually.  So I am VERY skeptical 
of most conspiracy theories.   But just because they are suspect in general, 
doesn't  mean that there is never anything real to them.   I believe that if 
one has compelling evidence to support such a theory, rather than just a whole 
bunch of assumptions, that it would merit more serious consideration.





 

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 12:31:30 PM EDT, Reid Harvey 
 wrote:  
 
 
GreetingsAll, I have the greatest appreciation of the Silverlist and what we 
can do tosupport the understanding of CS but in my view there’s much too much 
here aboutconspiracy theory and the deep state, etc. So much about these 
viewpoints is really simplistic as if to suggestpredictable patterns.  That 
good and evilco-exist seems to be a fact of life that has been from time 
immemorial.

Do peoplehere believe that FDR, Franklin Roosevelt was a good guy; a good 
president?  Look at the back of a one dollar bill and you’llsee something he 
was instrumental in putting there:  The pyramid and all seeing eye of 
theIlluminati.  It’s widely acknowledgedthat the Illuminati has been involved 
in a lot of conspiracy, but does thismake FDR a bad guy?  It’s tiresome toread 
so much about conspiracy theory when we could be letting people know aboutthe 
wonders of CS.
  

Re: CS>Corona plandemic

[Steve G]

I think it is unwise or irresponsible to assume that all hospital deaths are 
reported as COVID-19 deaths.    I don't believe that the hospitals are 
reporting all deaths as if they are due to COVID-19.  

 

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 09:58:12 AM EDT, Gmail 
 wrote:  
 
 Reid, i believe the virus went thru our school system in Nov/dec last 
year.Yes, go back to school now. Go back to work. I’m in E. Tn.This is the 
mother of all false flags.  Meth has killed more people here.Any hospital death 
is reported as COV caused, if possible. Its about federal money.Newspaper 
motto- “If it bleeds, it leads”

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and 
monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before 
tomorrow morning."    Henry Ford




  

Re: CS>Most will test positive for "a" corona virus of some kind.

[Steve G]

I don't know what to say here.   There will be an election.  Trump is NOT the 
last POTUS, and lock down is temporary.  Everything has NOT been turned over to 
FEMA and the constitution has NOT been suspended.  We are not under FEMA 
command.  
And i do have plenty of food.   Plus plenty more at the grocery stores.   
I've viewed as much of that video as I could stand... the guy comes across 
as a conspiracy theorist.  Not the good kind that could conceivably be onto 
something, but one of your typical kooks that makes wild assumptions and is so 
very hungry to be part of something really big.
Steve

 

On Monday, April 6, 2020, 12:31:07 PM EDT, Ron  wrote:  
 
   Oboyoboyoboy!
 Just watched this. I view most of Mannarino's vids. Glad you didn't let me 
miss this one.
 This poop is here to stay. There will be no election & Trump is the last 
POTUS. This country will be in lock down period.
 If I heard right Trump said, in one appearance, that he had initiated 
(something or other) and had turned everything over to FEMA. If that is true 
then the constitution has been suspended and we are under FEMA command.
 Got food?
 
 Ron
 
 On 4/5/2020 5:14 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 Wear a badge if you are negative for the virus? WEAR A MARK? A WCB President 
CALLING FOR FORCED, MANDATORY, UNIVERSAL COVID-19 TESTING. Mannarino 
   

Re: CS>Vaccination or no vaccination

[Steve G]

Well,  I almost never get sick, so it is generally not an issue for me.  Except 
due to my age, I'm considered susceptible to a lot of things, so my doc wants 
me to get flu vax, shingles, pneumonia, and something else... I forget.  I did 
take a flu vax last week when Iwas in the hospital for my heart attack.  
Absolutely no repercussions.
I have never been vaccinated for whooping cough.  I had this full blown disease 
when I was four around 1957.    So I guess there was no need after that.   But 
that was over 60 years ago.   Does anyone know whether I should get whooping 
cough vaccinated after so many years?
Regardless, I get the feeling that many of the people on this list think that 
vaccines are bad.   I am not one of those people.  
So, to answer YOUR question, if my doctor's office was insisting I really 
needed some particular vaccination, I'd go for it.   








On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 09:55:57 AM EST, Bernadette Burch 
 wrote:  
 
 I am jumping into the conversation a little late.
 I refuse all the offered vaccines, no flu vacs, no pneumonia vacs, no shingle 
vacs, etc., .  They never argue with me.  I had a nurse say “we have to ask you 
if you want them, but between you and me, we think you are right to refuse 
them”.  
I did, however, accept the whooping cough vaccination, considering my daughter 
said “no whooping cough vaccine, no holding your new granddaughter”.  This was 
a no brainer.  
Bernadette

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:





Reid wrote: Can others on the list please tell me, how do you respond (or not) 
when the doctor's staff tell you you really, really need that vacination. I'm 
inclined to tell them I'll only do this if I were to be barred from further 
appointments. Am I being unreasonable or are they?

  

Marshall wrote: We just say no.  If they can't accept that, then we change 
doctors.

  

=

I agree. We are paying for their services and aren't obligated to make them 
happy. They are supposed to abide by what we want, not vice-versa. I would 
never consent to being bullied like that.

  

Nenah

  

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Re: CS>EDTA to chelate heavy metals

[Steve G]

I did some googling and found there is no consensus for a definition of 'heavy 
metal.'   However, the most commonly used definition is those metals which have 
a density equal to or greater than five times that of water.
Aluminum has a density of only 2.7 so it is not a heavy metal based on the most 
commonly used criteria.
Aluminum has no nutrient or essential mineral value so it is fine to eliminate 
it from your body if you can find a way to do that.
It is also one of the most common metals on the planet and you come into 
contact with it every day.  It's in the soil naturally.  It's residue can be 
found in most animals and plants.  
However, this casual exposure to aluminum is unlikely to be harmful.   Aluminum 
toxicity seems only to occur when someone has ingested high levels of aluminum, 
or has exposure to aluminum dust in an industrial setting.
Here's one of the more relevant sites that discusses this without obvious bias. 
  https://www.winchesterhospital.org/health-library/article?id=164929
 

 

On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 02:46:25 PM EST, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 H Phil,
I take Nature’s Way Selenium, 200 mg.  On the back it says it is 
L-selenomethionine  I duck-ducked if Selenium is a heavy metal.  The answer is 
yes.
Then asked if what I have is natural but they can’t just say yes or no, but it 
implied it was natural.
So, if Selenium is a heavy metal and you have too much of it, my thought is 
some EDTA to chelate.  Swanson has this.  I take potassium with this because a 
toxicologist told me to.   My question to the doctor was would EDTA take out 
Mercury?
Amazing what heavy metals are.  I would never have guessed aluminum is a heavy 
metal.
Jean



https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb1961/47/4/47_4_807/_pdf

  

Re: CS>Skin cancer/Melanoma...Or?

[Steve G]

With no photos and no tests of what may or may not have been there, you will 
have no proof of anything.  You can't claim that silver cured a cancerous tumor 
since there is nothing proving a cancerous tumor existed.  Since all we'll have 
is your description of what you observed it just becomes another anecdotal 
story.
It could be that your friend was a bit OCD about picking at things, and when 
you started with the silver and bandaid it kept him or her from making things 
worse.
But regardless, I am glad that they are on the road to recovery.   Reminds me 
of those dreams I  get occasionally in which I pick at my face or ear, and 
gradually pick away huge amounts of skin just to find nothing underneath.



 

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 9:16:35 PM EDT, Neville 
 wrote:  
 
  
I didn't want to speak of this just yet,  but I am mentioning it now anyway.  
The following is a personal observation.




A spot had been located on the top of a persons nose for many months, just half 
way down from the bridge where glasses sit on the nose.  After several months, 
and not knowing what it was, the person had been picking/scratching at it to 
get rid of it.  Eventually when it was brought to my attention it was a perfect 
'hole', about the size of a match head in size, or perhaps a little smaller, 
with a white spot in the centre 'deep' down in that hole, like a 'bump'.  The 
white spot I believe was cartilage.  I immediately shyte myself when I saw this.




For the last several weeks I have been dosing it with silver.  Continually 
wetting a bandaid over some time lapse.  The hole started to get larger 
initially, like 'elongating/spreading' and showing raw meat.  I thought we 
would be in serious trouble, but, after more time lapse, a scab has formed deep 
in the wound.  I think (believe) it was some sort of skin cancer or some form 
of melanoma.




My opinion (belief) is, the silver was chasing cancer cells in the meat tissue 
surrounding that hole over time.  After further time lapse a scab formed, and 
with no further raw meat evident or visible and/or exposed, and/or spreading.  
I am thinking 'cancer?' cells had been 'chased' in the flesh/meat by silver.




At the moment things are looking pretty good I have to say, but, I will see 
what happens over more time lapse.  Now I simply get this person to keep 
dropping silver onto that open air scab during the day while awake.  My 
assumption is, the silver will continue to regenerate the tissue below that 
scab.  I don't believe it was dermatitis, it was too deep into the flesh, and 
spreading, and I consider the 'white' bump deep into that hole was cartilage?




If this treatment proves successful, it will be undeniable personal proof of 
what Dr Robert O Becker had researched, silver will degenerate and regenerate 
flesh/tissue/meat from DNA stem cells at the wound site.  It's a pity I didn't 
take photos at the start, and the progression, also a pity I could not mention 
this to a Doctor, you can't discuss this with a Doc here.




If anyone has a considered opinion, I could be interested to hear it?  There is 
plenty of pictures on the Net showing skin cancer/s etc, but not exactly like 
this one of course, they are all different, and I'm no expert on skin cancers 
etc but I do think this was a form of skin cancer and not just simply 
dermatitis, dermatitis doesn't go that deep into meat/tissue, and spread by 
eating away flesh...Or does it?  If this actually works, this will not just be 
empty words, it will come from first hand experience.  I have to say though, 
it's looking better each day goes by now, but, we will see I guess?  I should 
know in a couple/several weeks or so I suppose?  Either way we'll find out if 
this worked or not in the fullness of time?




N.






  

Re: CS>Best pure distilled water brands?

[Steve G]

Personally, I don't think there is a best brand.  I buy whatever the grocery 
store carries as long as it's labeled 'distilled.'   They all make it the same 
way and so the product is pretty much the same no matter whose name is on the 
label.     The only issue I can think of is if they have poor bottling 
procedures.
Steve 


  From: RaVen Sequoia 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:06 AM
 Subject: CS>Best pure distilled water brands?
   
Hi All again, 
Tried finding best pure distilled water in Amazon. Wasn't impressed in what I 
saw. What brands do you recommend? 


RaVen

   

Re: CS>re: Mike is Well

[Steve G]

In that case, since he isn't cooperating, this group should just migrate to a 
new platform as best we can.  Yahoo groups are still out there and seem to 
still thrive.  Facebook is another possibility, but that forces everyone to  
have a Facebook account.
The status quo of having a group that the owner is neglecting just doesn't work.

Steve 


  From: Jason 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 2:31 PM
 Subject: CS>re: Mike is Well
   
...Mike should turn over the account to someone willing to manage it.

...or, the list should be transferred to another host before it shuts
off one day.

I don't mind running a list, there are some good free list server
software packages that can be run from any domain.

~Jason


On 6/5/2017 5:43 AM, Itguy wrote:

> Unfortunately I cannot offer any further assistance.
>
> Mike doesn't have any willingness to manage the list any longer. After
> I explained to him the concerns from list members and the need for him
> to admin the list he said for now he will keep paying the bills but
> can't many any further promises. I told him I would advise that he
> simply delete his entire inbox at his email address and start anew.
> He's too far behind to even attempt to parse through what may amount
> to multiple thousands of emails after many years of neglect. Then once
> deleted he can 'keep up' by checking his list and inbox a couple of
> times a week...
>
> It's been nearly 2 weeks since I made my wellness trip to his home and
> he hasn't checked his email to cleaned out the box, it's still filled
> up. I don't think he took my advice. Mike uses Gmail now but didn't
> provide me with that address so I have no way to reach him other than
> his cell phone number. (should he answer) To be honest, I suspect Mike
> isn't even involved with CS any longer.
>
> All I can say at this point is there isn't anything you can do about
> this list other than to let it deprecate and possibly manually move
> people to a new list. Sorry I cannot be of further help.
>
> --
>    Itguy
>    it...@fastmail.com


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Re: CS>Mike Devour not answering Part II

[Steve G]

I did find that both of these gentlemen show the same address.
 


  From: Tony Moody 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:56 PM
 Subject: CS>Mike Devour not answering
   
Hallo Folks,
Mikes Devour, owner of the silver List, mailbox is full, he hasn't answered 
recent email. Support at Eskimo.com  say that his phone rings but there is a 
generic answering machine message. He lives in south east Michigan according to 
his page https://www.eskimo.com/~mdevour/boatproject.html 
Is there anyone in the area who could try to get something more definite? I 
can't be of much help because I'm round the other side of the world and 9 hours 
earlier than you in USA. 
OK,Tony Moody
  

   

Re: CS>Mike Devour not answering

[Steve G]

I just did a quick white pages search.  There are two Michael G Devour listings 
in Detroit.    One is age 40 - 44 and the other is aged 55 - 59.
I don't know whether this helps at all.


  From: Tony Moody 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:56 PM
 Subject: CS>Mike Devour not answering
   
Hallo Folks,
Mikes Devour, owner of the silver List, mailbox is full, he hasn't answered 
recent email. Support at Eskimo.com  say that his phone rings but there is a 
generic answering machine message. He lives in south east Michigan according to 
his page https://www.eskimo.com/~mdevour/boatproject.html 
Is there anyone in the area who could try to get something more definite? I 
can't be of much help because I'm round the other side of the world and 9 hours 
earlier than you in USA. 
OK,Tony Moody
  

   

Re: CS>BTW, silver nitrate is what we use to treat ceramic granules, with which we put together graulated ceramic water filters. As pathogens pass through a bed of this, they bounce from one silver

[Steve G]

Her PhD is in psychology and holistic health according to a flyer I found via 
Googling.  However, no mention is made of the university from whence this 
degree was acquired.
I think it is a reasonable question if one keeps in mind that a  great student 
or a great mind will be great regardless of which school it attended.   But, 
the best basis by which to judge someone's contributions and expertise is via 
their results.  So the question becomes, 'Does what she say hold water?'
This is harder to answer than you'd think because everything is colored by 
opinion very hard to get to facts.  And many people really don't know the 
difference between the two.
Steve

  From: Reid Harvey 
 To: Silverlist Post  
 Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 8:33 AM
 Subject: CS>BTW, silver nitrate is what we use to treat ceramic granules, with 
which we put together graulated ceramic water filters. As pathogens pass 
through a bed of this, they bounce from one silver contact to next, and are 
de-activated in the process. The filters will be especially useful in 
developing countries, where thousands of small children die every day, due to 
pathogen contaminated water.
   


On Apr 2, 2017 4:36 AM, "bob Larson"  wrote:

silver nitrate is AgNO3
nenah, you never did say where you earned your PhD?was Gary Null there too?



On Apr 2, 2017 12:31 AM, Bill Kingsbury  wrote:


The term "NAg" (Silver Nitrate) occurs only four times in thisarticle, that 
refer to one footnote that references a 1969article.

Everywhere else in this article -- that's over 60 places --,"NAg" stands for 
"nano-silver", for which there are92 footnotes, and most of those 92 referenced 
articles were published"recently".

Bill


--- At 08:49 PM 31, 2017-03-31, Nenah Sylver wrote:
>

BKwrote: The journal article can be downloaded here - 4.6 MB PDF:
https://sci-hub.ac/downloads/ bb41/10.1021@acsnano.7b01166. pdf 
 
==
Thanks for the link. Here is a short quote from the article:
[...]
 
Now, I did not read every single word of this article, but I did skimevery 
page. NAg (Silver Nitrate) kept appearing. From my cursory reading,it seems 
that the authors are focusing completely on the silver COMPOUNDSilver 
Nitrate­which, as we know, is NOT electrolytically isolatedsilver!!!
 
Of course medical science won’t discuss EIS because we can make itourselves, 
and there’s no profit in that. It really pays to readcarefully, and read 
between the lines.
 
Nenah
 
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Re: CS>imprintable CS

[Steve G]

 This sounds like a bad idea to me.  Why?  Because I do NOT believe that CS can 
be imprinted with frequencies.  For that matter, I don't think any substance 
can be artificially imprinted with frequencies.
Also, it is totally unnecessary to have CS in strengths higher than 20ppm.  

Finally, the description is filled with some fear-mongering nonsense, such as 
bragging about how their rods are 99.99% pure silver (which is what they should 
be anyway).  Then they imply that other CS generator makers are advocating the 
use of silver alloys.  Well, I've never run across a maker that is open to 
impure silver rods in their product.  But it sounds like this company is the 
only one you can trust... and that's what they want you to think.
The use of CS at varying strengths is great.  Colloidal silver is effective 
even at extremely low concentrations.   Ramping it up to 50 ppm, seems silly 
and not cost effective.



  From: PT Ferrance 
 To: Silver-List  
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:30 AM
 Subject: CS>imprintable CS
   
Hi,I don't often post since I still feel like a newbie here in many ways.
I found this website  that offers a device that will imprint CS with 
frequencies  http://www.pulsedtech.com/product/ics/
Does this sound like a good idea or a waste of money?
Thanks.PT
 Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.

  

Re: CS>New Member from Nigeria

[Steve G]

Welcome, Tsokwa.
Just read the messages and postings, ask questions and you'll learn a great 
deal!
 


  From: tsokwaaluandeyaba 
 To: silver-list  
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!
   
I am Tsokwa Alu Andeyaba, a Nigerian and a public servant. I want to learn more 
and everything about colloidal silver. I hope your group will help achieve 
that. 
    Thanks 

  

Re: CSMason Jars Colloidal Silver

[Steve G]

Since canning season is upon us, why don't you make a stop at a grocery store 
and get a box of those plastic jar lids that are designed for Mason jars.  That 
is what I use all the time, and it's a lot more classy than parchment paper or 
saran wrap.
Steve
  From: JD jd_m...@gmx.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 3:11 PM
 Subject: CSMason Jars  Colloidal Silver
   
Is it OK to store Colloidal Silver in mason jars with those metal lids 
that are included?  The flat part of the lid looks like it has a 
plasticy type of coating over the metal.  If not, can you put parchment 
paper between the jar and lid?  Or, saran wrap?

Thanks


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Re: CScolds and flu

[Steve G]

I have read the research abstract that this article refers to several times.   
The author's claim of a 4,250% increase in fetal death or stillbirth when going 
from a 1 vaccine year to a 2 vaccine year in NOT supported by the abstract.
The incidents DID rise though.  6.8 incidents per million pregnant women with a 
1 vaccine season gave way to     77.8 incidents per million in a 2 vaccine 
season.  The following season was 12.6 incidents per million.
Now, a 4,250% increase from either of the 1 vaccine seasons would have yielded 
either 289 incidents or 535 incidents.   In actuality, you have an increase of 
either 617% or 1,144% depending on which year you are comparing to the 2 
vaccine year.
There is such a huge difference in these two years, that it is hard to take it 
very seriously.  This is because it is not very consistent and it suggests 
other factors may have been present.
It would be helpful to see some statistics showing the number of fetal deaths 
and stillbirths for pregnant women who were not vaccinated for the flu.  It is 
reasonable to believe that this data is available, even though it hasn't been 
culled and reported.
Only then can this data be put in perspective.    Why?  Well, depends on how 
many fetal deaths and stillbirths afflict non-vaccinated pregnant women doesn't 
it?   I do not know what the numbers are, but what if the numbers are similar 
to the vaccinated numbers?  This, more than anything else, would suggest that 
it isn't the vaccines causing the trouble.  

What if the numbers are much lower?  Well then this would suggest that 
vaccines ARE indeed causing incidents.  But the real meat of the issue is 'How 
much of a difference are vaccines making?'   We do not know the answer to this 
question nor whether vaccines are causing more incidents or reducing total 
incidents not until we know the data on non-vaccinated pregnant women.  
THIS data would be fascinating and of true value.
I'm not making an argument either For nor Against vaccines.  We don't have 
enough data to do anything except for point out that Dave Mihalovic, ND, is not 
very good at math.



  From: Joe Huard joe_hu...@hotmail.com
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:55 PM
 Subject: CScolds and flu
   
Flu vaccines are useless.
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/03/05/flu-vaccines-are-useless-the-real-flu-strikes-just-twice-every-10-years/

Joe

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Re: CSherpes

[Steve G]

I was diagnosed with genital herpes years ago.  I forget whether that's type 1 
or type 2.  But regardless, my doctor put me on acyclovir 800mg right after 
diagnosis.  It is a viral suppressant.  I have been taking it daily with very 
few misses and have not had any additional outbreaks since.
I have also treated with CS and also micro-electricity.  I have no clue whether 
these treatments have eradicated the virus or not since I have no outbreaks but 
am still on the acyclovir.  I have not been retested for the virus so I have no 
confirmation either way.
I know this isn't too helpful, other than the suppressant has been effective.  
Would I have another episode if I stopped taking it?  I don't know.  Perhaps I 
should discuss this with my doc next time I haunt him.
STeve


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 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:40 PM
 Subject: CSherpes
   
Has anyone cured herpes type 1/ and/ or type 2 with silver? Thanks

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Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: Ode Coyote silverpuppy1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSAC voltage
Date: March 4, 2015 at 3:12:44 AM PST
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com

25 volts at 50/60 HZ does not impart enough velocity to the ions to get them 
far enough away from the electrodes to not be sucked back on when the polarity 
changes.
To use that SWAP frequency requires around 1000 volts.
Minimum at 25 volts would be around 1 minute between polarity shifts and that 
will be very slow as it takes around 20 seconds out of a cycle for the 
electrochemistry to unwind and reverse. 
 3 minutes goes at about the same rate as DC
Anything over a few seconds is very difficult using analog timing circuits, 
longer is harder and less reliable/accurate.
That why I finally went digital.  A computer can count infinite milliseconds 
effortlessly and get it right every time with a 5 minute interval.
Ode

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote:

Has anyone used a low, ie 25 volts, AC power source for a CS generator?
Any ideas about posslble success if using? Seems to me it would compare
with the swapping DC method. Thanks.
Opa

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Re: CSAd-hominen attacks.

[Steve G]

I haven't been following this thread but this does bring up an interesting 
point.   I have read in sources outside of the alternative health community 
that silver is an antimicrobial agent effective at extremely dilute levels.  I 
don't recall exactly, but my memory is that it was in ppb (parts per billion) 
that was being referenced, possibly in wikipedia or maybe webmd sure wish I 
could recall.   

What I have read ad nauseum is many accounts of ways in which to beef up ppm my 
amazing levels.
So - in general we know that CS at levels between 5ppm and 20ppm are effective. 
  But has anyone looked into what level of strength CS has to be at a minimum 
to have a beneficial and observable effect?
I'm curious.  Perhaps we have just assumed that 0.5ppm wouldn't be helpful, but 
haven't tested.  It's just a thought.  Not wanting to take sides either way, 
but am just thinking that this might be worth exploring.
Cheers!
And now to go back on my word!   Suggesting he was fooling himself wasn't a big 
attack, but on the other hand it was a little bit naughty!  A little bit.  Not 
enough to warrant anything more than a casual glance.   That's my take.  I 
think we all need to relax and not take ourselves too seriously.  Eventually we 
will all be pushing up daisies anyway and who wants to spend their spare time 
worrying about who may have gotten the upper hand or won or lost a difference 
of opinion?
Steve
  From: Debra  David alch...@kern.com.au
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 1:04 AM
 Subject: CSAd-hominen attacks.
   
When I asked for an example of my 'ad-hominen, unkind' attacks the best Malcolm 
could provide was this...

You Strongly suggested that Tony was a fool, using his own attempt to provide 
the information that in using CS on animals, the animals are not usually 
susceptible to the placebo effect. in doing so you used a straw man argument, 
thus employing both the kill the messenger and the ad
hominem rhetorical ploys combined. QED.


Please look at what I really said to Tony...

(But first,this is what Tony said regarding the surprise news that his CS is 
only 0.54ppm)...

Now the important thing is that this stuff works as I said. It's not just 
placebo, I COULD FOOL MYSELF, but I doubt that one can fool cats, dogs and 
chickens all the time... Tony

My answer was this (and ONLY this)...

Well I'm sorry to say it Tony but yes you probably are fooling yourself. Half 
a ppm isn't going to do anything in my opinion


That didnt seem too harsh to me. I could have said more. I could have said No 
you can't fool the animals but you could be fooling yourself that the health of 
the animals is due to the CS, or something like that, but I figured my brief 
response was adequate.

But the sad thing here is not really Malcolms overblown sophistry. Its the fact 
that a regular poster on here, handing out advice to other members and newbies, 
is claiming that half a ppm (probably dissolved in gallons of water) is 
performing great things on himself, cats, dogs and chickens. But no-one but me 
questions it! Instead, I'm accused of being a (whatever Malcolm meant) for 
pointing it out!


David (In Australia)


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RE: CSImportant question about the new Super Bug 2015 CRE

[Steve G]

FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning.  Can be something we did or something done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this sort of thing.Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPadAt Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison<'philmorrison...@gmail.com'> wrote:Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims werealready weakened with compromised immune systems mostly due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and theSuper Bug strain happens to be one of them.  Whether thisspecific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are workingovertime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have toforeshadow our futures accordingly.I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about everyfive years.   Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low.  CS just wasn't up to dealing with this bug.  Fortunately, the SotaSilver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,to hold the bug to under 48 hours.   I was lucky, because thisbug hit like a freight train.I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3).  The researchers
 determined that it was bare silver attackingspecific sites on the virus, which is good for our team.  Virusescause cancer.   So, get em early. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/


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Re: CSHelp

[Steve G]

This sounds like a straightforward question, but really this is difficult to 
answer.
There are other CS groups around of course, but I don't believe there is an 
easy way to determine all the groups in the population.  

Also, whether this group is the best or some other group depends on very 
subjective perceptions. Perhaps you could mention what you like the best and 
the least about this particular group and then ask if anyone knows of a group 
that is better for the things you like and also has less of the attributes you 
do not like.
 To be honest, I hang around with this group because I like it here.  I am not 
particularly motivated to search out another group because this one satisfies 
my needs.   However, you might find certain things about it annoying, so you 
may wish to keep on looking.
Does this help?
Steve
  From: Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 10:12 PM
 Subject: CSHelp
   
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question of their own onto mine and one person asked me some questions which I 
answer. No one has answered any of my questions. Either no one knows anything, 
they are two bashful or no one cares. Either way I am very disappointed. So 
someone answer me this. Is there a better colloidal silver making list around 
anywhere?  Floyd   


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Re: CSTreatment for Eye Floaters

[Steve G]

I've had floaters since I was a kid.  It's never been a big deal to me since I 
only notice them when I pay attention to them or think about it, which isn't 
often.  Sounds like your situation is much more intrusive than mine.
Sadly, I have never found any suggestion anywhere to suggest that a 
non-surgical solution would ever do a thing.
Best of luck.
Steve
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 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 7:44 PM
 Subject: CSTreatment for Eye Floaters
   
Has anyone had any success in treating floater in the eye?  My left eye is like 
looking through spiderwebs I'm not going to do surgery or anything invasive..  
I'm sure someone may have come across a effective treatment. 

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Re: CSTransverse Myelitis

[Steve G]

What a wonderful story!   This is very encouraging and a great testimonial to 
what one can accomplish through ionic/colloidal silver.
Although it is a good idea to let the doctors know that he took the silver, I 
am pretty sure they would pooh-pooh this treatment and consider it nothing more 
than a coincidence that the best recovery they have ever seen happened to 
someone who was taking a non-drug that was not prescribed by a real doctor.
If that happens, don't let it get you down.
Steve
  From: Chris Davies ch...@qualityliposomalc.com
 To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 1:24 PM
 Subject: CSTransverse Myelitis
   
Hi All, I wanted to to post to let people know that it seems probable that 
ionic silver was able to to substantially help someone with transverse 
myelitis. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_myelitis ) The person is a 
53 year old male who had a routine flu vaccination about two weeks ago. Several 
days after the shot they began complaining of general malaise and odd twitching 
in their arms and body. This progressed over the course of two weeks and 
resulted in loss of bladder and bowel control and just about complete paralysis 
of his legs. The diagnosis of transverse myelitis was confirmed by MRI of his 
spine. They also took some spinal fluid to check for a specific infection, 
however, I have not heard any results as of yet. He was admitted to hospital 
and was given cortical steroids and an IV drip of vitamin C (unknown the 
amount). He remained in the hospital for about two days in this condition until 
I found out about his illness. My understanding is that vitamin C is not 
generally administered in hospitals, however, this was a high end Mexican 
hospital and they apparently have more latitude than in the US or Canada. That 
evening around 11pm I dropped off 1.5 litres of ionic silver, 20ppm made using 
the SilverLungs machine and a very pure form of water called 'injectable water' 
that is used to prepare IV's. I instructed his wife to give him a cup of ionic 
silver ever hour for a few hours in a row. The following morning around 6am he 
was able to stand on his own and over the next day rapidly progressed. He had 
consumed about 1 litre overnight. The doctors told him that he was extremely 
lucky to recover as he did. They also stated that they had never seen a 
recovery such as this in their many (20+?) years of practice. Their expectation 
is that he will be able to walk again on his own. The doctors have not yet been 
told that he was taking ionic silver. I am encouraging them to share this 
information with their doctors as it may help others. He is being discharged 
today, about 36 hours after he began taking ionic silver. He continues to take 
it at an unknown dose, but probably 2 to 3 cups per day. I've given them 
another 4 litres and they have expressed a strong interest in making their own. 
This is of course is a single case and certainly doesn't equal proof that it 
works, however, given his very rapid turn around after beginning ionic silver 
(prior to which he was on a continuous downhill slope) and the doctors 
amazement in is recovery I feel there is a reasonable chance that the ionic 
silver helped. Transverse myelitis is a horrible disease and I hope this story 
can help others. As a disclaimer, I have no financial interest in the company 
that makes the SilverLungs product. However, I did want to include the product 
name for the sake of completeness. I'd expect that any decent source of ionic 
silver would be sufficient. Best regards,Chris

  

Re: CSGood News From Sierra Leone

[Steve G]

Interesting article but a couple of comments.  

1 - I'm pretty involved with investments, investing news services and financial 
sites.  I have never heard of zerohedge.com and it strikes me that they might 
not be very representative of Wall street.

2 - Early on they talk about why churches have used silver chalices..  
Well, I spent many many years of my life as a Catholic (but not currently) and 
I have seen numerous chalices in my travels.  Every single one has been gold in 
color, either gold plated, or something similar.  I have NEVER seen a silver 
chalice anywhere.  So, it strikes me that the article may not be very well 
researched.   Too bad too since with such a grievous error, how can I trust 
anything else they have to say?
Steve (the wet blanket guy)


  From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:39 PM
 Subject: CSGood News From Sierra Leone
   

Wall Street Likes Silver

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-13/silver-versus-ebola-medical-revolution

  

Re: CS A little off topic ... but relevant

[Steve G]

I guess this IS a little off topic since as far as I could tell it has nothing 
to do with CS or even other alternative medicine therapies.
I didn't know what OTOH meant, so I had to search that.  I never heard of 
Unified Theory, so I looked that up.  As far as I can tell Unified Theory, or 
is it Grand Unified Theory, is the theory of everything.  The site seems to 
have enough material to keep someone who is sufficiently interested and 
motivated busy for months.
Since all of this is extremely complex and is hypothetical theory, how is it 
that someone can KNOW what the 'correct' unified theory is?   This puzzles me.  
 I could understand if it is someone's opinion that this is the correct one.  
But to lay claim it is THE correct theory would mean that the person has 
incontrovertible proof.
OTOH, it's all beyond me and I have no clue how any of this would be relevant 
to my life. Perhaps I'll delve into this from time to time.  Lots of topics to 
look at.
Steve


  From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:41 AM
 Subject: CS A little off topic ... but relevant
   

“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they 
wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure 
which has no relation to reality.”  Nikola Tesla
This old Nikola Tesla quote still holds true today, as modern scientists often 
forgo reality so long as the math can be made to work.   We see it everyday 
inphysics, medicine, economics, and even Unified Theory. 
OTOH the correct Unified Theory can't be totally suppressed.  Have some fun and 
check it out at  www.milesmathis.com 

  

Re: CSJim Humble

[Steve G]

Well, I thought the Religion route was innovative.  But if he is to be 
believed, and I have no reason to doubt his word, his church does not sell MMS. 
 He conducts training seminars. He sells his e-books.  But he truly seems to be 
on a mission to help as many as possible from illness by spreading the good 
word about MMSI and MMSII.  
It is my understanding that his church makes MMS available at clinics for free 
and that they are interested in helping people defeat illnesses.  I don't think 
has ever claimed that MMS is the only answer to the world's problems, but it 
certainly is what he's all about.  It's enough to work on without taking up 
more things.
He also is not trying to protect himself from the Feds by having a church.   He 
protects himself from the Feds by never again setting foot inside the US.  He 
has seen too many folks with non-FDA approaches to illness just plain disappear 
and doesn't want this to happen to himself.
I don't recall whether his archbishops are forbidden from selling MMS kits or 
not.  I kinda suspect this is the case, but I really don't know.  Seems like it 
would be forbidden in order to avoid harming the perception of MMS by a 
skeptical public.
Overall, I think Humble is a good guy.
One of the good things about MMS and MMSII is that all of the authoritative 
discussion seems pretty coherent and consistent, especially since it all 
eminates from one place.
With CS, it's totally different.  You have all kinds of people worldwide making 
many different claims.  There is a lot of conflicting info out there that makes 
it hard to get a handle on what is true and what isn't.  Plus people making 
claims that THEIR CS is better than anyone else's.
So it goes.  There is much to learn about CS as well as MMS and other 
alternative approaches.  

I just want something that helps.
Steve






  From: Sara Mandal-Joy sara...@valnet.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:46 PM
 Subject: CSJim Humble
   
I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot 
for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics...  
which he really hasn't done.    However, that being said, he HAS 
described the science of it.  And there are many bright minds out there 
who have verified what he has to say.  It is not bleach.  Simple 
chemistry will tell you that.  I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and 
never got over one drop at a  time - my herx reactions are intense, and 
that was all I could  tolerate.  I have put it on the back burner as  a 
must have first aid item, and in case of.  Some bright minds are 
saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way 
of treating ebola.    Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me 
want to barf?  Absolutely!!  But that does not mean MMS is worthless?  
No.  My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an 
important thing to have available.  I only have a little, just enough 
for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it.

I must say it really angers me  when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes 
their product THE answer to the world's problems.  Certain brands of CS 
do the same thing.  And it feeds the feds' reactions to such 
products.    BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say 
of CS, it doesn't mean it is so.  And it angers me when people take up 
that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS.

I will also say, in defense of Humble.  I think he's always had a 
non-humble attitude.  But his religiousity I think came as a way to 
protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated.  By 
declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or 
ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to 
get around being completely shut down.  He wanted what he believes 
(therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated 
by the feds.    Prety out of the box thinking.    I'm not sure how 
honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter 
of faith and principle as much as a matter of science.  I'm not sure 
either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in 
part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off.  
He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because 
he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation.  What a 
drama.  Anyways, my 2 cents.  Sara


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Re: CSConundrum

[Steve G]

before anyone can attempt to explain this, they need to know what sort of 
container you stored each of these three solutions in.

Were they all in virtually identical containers?  Or were they somewhat 
different?  Did they each hold the same volume of fluid?

And, can anyone duplicate the results of this phenomenon?

After that, perhaps a hypothesis can be attempted.

Steve




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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 7:02 AM
Subject: CSConundrum
 

I shone a laser through my distilled water and I got a distinct Tyndall effect, 
just the same as I get through my finished CS.  Can anyone explain this? If I 
shine it through tap water there is nothing...dee

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Re: CSConundrum

[Steve G]

Just to rule out the possibility that the canning jar may have had any 
involvement, try putting tap water in the same container used for the distilled 
and the CS.  If tap water and distilled water have different results when using 
identical containers then we have something very puzzling that needs 
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Re: CSThe Spanish Influenza Epidemic of 1918 was caused by vaccinations---E. McBean (Swine Flu Expose)

[Steve G]

Well, if you believe Eleanora McBean.  Her extremist assertions are 
questionable at best, and very unprofessional.  Read up on her on Wikipedia.   


But the cause of the 1918 flu epidemic is not really relevant to today. 


Ebola is a much more serious issue today.  A vaccine would be nice, but the 
window of opportunity to properly manage an outbreak is already past. 


We have relatively open borders between the US and countries that have the 
outbreak.   This can only result in disaster for the countries to which those 
who have been exposed to Ebola victims are fleeting.  


I'd bet good money that the two ladies in Texas who took care of the Liberian 
gentleman before he passed away from Ebola is just the tip of the iceberg.   
We'll see a few more from that hospital in the next week or so.   And from 
these people we'll have more yet.  We aren't quite yet at a flashpoint, but it 
is not far off.

Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea should all have serious travel restrictions 
in place NOW.   



Steve

PS - I had  to look up that James Ostrowski quote to put it in proper 
perspective.  Sounds like he really knows his stuff.





 From: TJ Garland ironguard...@gmail.com
To: Jane White willowtree...@gmail.com; Lori Weegens lweege...@aol.com; 
David Stanley MD david.stanle...@yahoo.com; Anne Garcia Garland 
a...@bellsouth.net; Andrew Garland garlandand...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:55 PM
Subject: CSThe Spanish Influenza Epidemic of 1918 was caused by 
vaccinations---E. McBean (Swine Flu Expose)
 



http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html



“Progressivism is a mindset that favors the use of aggressive government force 
to solve social problems.” James Ostrowski

Re: CSSpanish Flu - Epidemic of 1918

[Steve G]

My mother and my brother both got polio in the 1950's.  My brother died from it 
at ten years of age.  The rest of us (8 kids) were vaccinated as soon as the 
vaccines were available.  None of us suffered anything unusual as a result and 
all of us kids are still alive and mostly vigorously healthy.  So, we didn't 
suffer from the vaccines.


My only concern with vaccines is that they are made properly with no mercury.  


Because my household has CS available as well as MMS, I don't see any need for 
any of us to be vaccinated for anything.   Should Ebola raise its ugly head in 
my neck of the woods, we'll be pretty aggressive with the use of the 
alternative approaches we already know to be effective.  I'm hoping that they 
will be just as effective with Ebola as they are for other illnesses.


I think that 'Dr.' McBean's view of the 1918 epidemic is inaccurate and not 
supported by a scientific viewpoint.t


Steve




 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:10 PM
Subject: CSSpanish Flu - Epidemic of 1918
 





WWI soldiers were given multiple vaccine shots causing Conglomerate Disease
 which means having lots of different diseases at the same time.

Some victims manifested typhoid-like symptoms, others diphtheria-like symptoms, 
shell shock covered postvaccinal encephalitis, and paralysis was actually 
polio.

There was 7x more disease in vaccinated soldiers than in unvaccinated civilians.

Germs, bacteria, viruses, or bacilli are the RESULT of disease, not the cause
of the disease.

People cannot contaminate their bodies with vaccines without causing disease.   
 


http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html

CSRe: Warburg and Cancer

[Steve G]

I share Phil's skepticism of Li's assertions.  I suspect that the blood vessel 
expansion is important to cancers to provide nutrients for growth, but doubt 
that oxygen is important to them.


Warburg got his 1931 Nobel prize for his discoveries that led to understanding 
the nature and mode of cellular respiration and enzymes.   He did not get it 
for his theories on cancer, although he was pretty interested in it.

As noted on the Nobelprize.org website, he found that cancer cells can live and 
develop even in the absence of oxygen.  

One of his theories was that cancer could be treated by use of oxygen therapy.  
However, research has shown that cancer can survive and prosper whether it is 
saturated with oxygen or is deprived of it. 


Dr. Andrew Weil has posted his own coherently written thoughts on this issue in 
March of this year.  You can see them here if you like - 
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA322213/Can-Oxygen-Cure-Cancer.html

Weil is one of those online alternative medicine type doctors that is busy 
pushing his own line of supplements etc.   For that reason, I do not jump on 
the bandwagon when he speaks as I've learned to be skeptical of folks when they 
stand to profit.  On the other hand, he seems to be open to alternatives and 
seems to be objective when discussing most health issues.

He concludes that oxygen therapy is not a useful treatment for cancer, which I 
suspect is true.  He also disparages the use of hydrogen peroxide as an 
alternative treatment, but relies upon the FDA for their take on it.   I DO 
agree that no study has proven that peroxide is an effective treatment.  
However, such studies cost a lot of money, and since no money is to be made by 
big companies, they haven't been done.

I believe that THIS is the exact sort of research that should be conducted by 
the government.  Find out whether it is useful or not using double-blind 
techniques and proving things one way or another instead of dismissing the 
whole notion out of hand due to the possibility that someone will ignore 
warnings and do something stupid.

What I'm VERY curious about is the assertion that CS transports oxygen.  I'm 
skeptical of all point-blank claims like this and I've never heard this one 
before.   


I can't help but wonder what is so special about CS that would enable it to be 
more effective at transporting oxygen than common tap water or distilled water. 
 Can anyone explain why this could be or would be so?

Steve



 


 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 1:54 PM
Subject: CS7 Sept - OT - however very interesting
 







Hi Sandra,   William Li angiogenesis offering on Ted is basically flawed.

Li claims expansion of blood vessels in cancers is to provide additional oxygen
and nutrients.

We know from Otto Warburg Nobel Prize 1932 that cancer is caused by
oxygen deficiency and excess H+ ions.   Also, hyperbaric chambers use
oxygen environment to kill cancers.   IOWs oxygen kills cancer cells, not
nourish them.  

Li was flogging a number of drugs, during he course of his lecture, leading one
to suspect ulterior motives for this lecture. 

Interestingly, CS transports and activates oxygen. 

Re: CSRe: Warburg and Cancer

[Steve G]

Sadly, the explanation provided at the website is a bit vague, to put it nicely.

The antimicrobial nature of silver ions was identified as being due to the 
oligodynamic effect.  This was discovered in 1893 and not limited to silver.  
Ions of mercury, copper, iron, lead, gold and other metals also have shown this 
affect.  I'll pass on the ions of mercury, copper, lead and so on. Silver works 
just fine for me and has very little, if any, toxicity.

I don't think the mechanism by which metal ions are antimicrobial have been 
100% determined, but'Data from silver suggest that these ions denature 
enzymes of the target cell or organism by binding to reactive groups, resulting 
in their precipitation and inactivation.[2] Silver inactivates enzymes by 
reacting with the thiol groups to form silver sulfides. Silver also reacts with 
the amino-, carboxyl-, phosphate-, and imidazole-groups and diminish the 
activities of lactate dehydrogenase and glutathione peroxidase.'
-Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligodynamic_effect
 No mention of transporting oxygen.

I looked up 'Exetec' but all I found was that Exetec is some sort of IT support 
consultant group.

I'm suspicious of Marantech.  Took some doing but I did find that it had been 
incorporated in either 1999 or 2005 in Providence, RI.  Annual revenue of 
Marantech appears to be about $140,000.  Employees total - 2.  And Marantech 
seems to have disappeared from the map.  Further looking revealed the following:


Tetrasilver - Not!
What ever happened to the Aids cure Tetrasilver Tetroxide (US Patent 
#5,676,977) which you commented about a few years ago. The company marantech is 
gone from the net and all discussion has stopped. 
Response from Dr. Pierone
Although the company appears to have vanished there was a small study reported 
last year from Kinshasa on Tetrasilver Tetroxide (Imusil). Here is the link. 
Actually not all the news was bad. Of the 3 subjects treated, one had a false 
positive HIV test with a negative HIV viral load at baseline this subject 
appears to have done quite well after treatment. The other 2 subjects who 
actually were infected with HIV did not so well with a consistent increase in 
viral load following Imusil. 


My advice is to be skeptical until there is some verifiable events that are 
reproducible regardless who performs the testing.  None of this stuff where the 
only people testing the stuff are the ones selling it.

Steve





 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:44 PM
Subject: CSRe: Warburg and Cancer
 




The web site, noted below, explains exactly how Nano Silver and colloidal
silver transport and activate oxygen to kill abnormal body cells.

This explanation has been replicated in other studies. 



http://www.silentcures.com/The-AIDS-Cure.html

Re: CSEvery kind of silver kills bacteria.

[Steve G]

I fully agree with the idea you only want to use the purest silver you can get 
to make your own CS.  As far as nickel poisoning, you'd only get that if the 
jewelry or sterling silver had nickel content.  


I've never given much thought to the proposition that jewelry might contain 
some nickel.  Most of my experience has been with silver-plated musical 
instruments, which are usually brass, except for flutes which are usually 
nickel.  Nobody in their right mind would ever use a silver plated anything to 
make colloidal silver, and hopefully never use sterling either. 


The problem is that the results are too unpredictable... or perhaps predictable 
as I think they'd be singing the blues in short order.

Steve




 From: alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:37 AM
Subject: CSEvery kind of silver kills bacteria.
 



 From: Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
 Date: 10 August 2014 7:25:43 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSEvery kind of silver kills bacteria.


 Whoa, I agree with your general gist that basically all silver is  
 good, and even think it agrees with my earlier post that 'nano' is  
 used mostly as marketing hype.  I agree with you on  1  2, but  
 your points 2  3 scare me a bit:

  - Never use jewelry or sterling silver of any kind, as you could  
 end up with nickel poisoning. You always want the purest silver  
 available when making CS, to avoid any unwanted contaminants.


Agreed, but I was talking about 'effectiveness' not safety.


  -  There is endless documentation that shows colloidal silver is  
 effective, as it was even used by the pharmaceutical companies a  
 hundred years ago. And there are thousands of years of history  
 showing silver being effective. In my opinion, mentioning  
 published, 'official' clinical trials or trying to differentiate CS  
 from nanosilver only adds confusion. (And as you said, CS has  
 nanosilver).

Sure there is endless documentation, just like there are endless  
websites claiming that CS is a miracle cure but, quite rightly, they  
are not worth a damn in medical eyes. They are not evidence. They are  
not based on clinical trials. They are not to be trusted, and  
ultimately thats why they are not accepted by the FDA. I wish there  
was 'proof' but there isn't.

Forget about 'thousands of years of use', about 'blue bloods', about  
'silver dollars in milk cans' and all that BS. The ONLY credible  
argument for taking CS is that the lab tests give it some scientific  
support, and thousands of anecdotes SUGGEST it might be effective. We  
have NOTHING more concrete than that yet.

David



 I was just worried that some people might get the wrong idea about  
 your comments. I agree with the intend of your message completely.

 Victor


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Re: CSCannabis Oil Without THC or With Doesn't Matter

[Steve G]

Any Cannabis center should have this stuff.




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: CSCannabis Oil Without THC or With Doesn't Matter
 

Hi,

I am looking for cannabis oil - good grade/pharmaceutical - no additives 
- no added preservatives - for someone with a medical condition. Any 
leads, thoughts, ideas - resources? Google has failed me. Thanks, Joy

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Re: CSGum infection

[Steve G]

I had an abcessed tooth a year or so ago.  I foolishly avoided seeing the 
dentist, so, it gradually got worse and worse.  I ended up using my 'godzilla' 
device which cost me $5 in parts and 5 minutes of my time to make to send 6 
volts of direct current through the infected tissue for about 5 minutes.  Then 
I reversed polarity and ran it for another 5 minutes.  


That put an end to the infection. 


6 volts is extremely safe as long as you do not send it through an open sore.  
There is a yahoo group called 'microelectricitygermkiller' that explores using 
low level direct current to fight infections, colds, flu, insect bites and even 
snake bites.

The way this works is that the current sends trillions of electrons through the 
affected tissue.  The human bady, it's tissues and cells is very resilient to 
electric current if it's not excessive.  Germs and viruses are very sensitive 
to electricity and are quickly killed when low levels of current are sent 
through them.  When it comes to bee stings, snake venom and similar things, the 
current changes the proteins to something not so antagonistic.  


I've had good success with bee stings and also even poison ivy.
I'd tell you how to put all together, but just check out the yahoo group, or 
search youtube videos and you'll find it.

Best of luck.

Steve




 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 6:19 PM
Subject: CSGum infection
 


Greeting's everyone,

I have been battling a pain free gum infection. It did not start high up on the 
gum but is climbing and destroying my gum tissue. I have tried 
everything..taking CS all during the day...3% hydrogen peroxide..DMSO mixed 
with CS...Oregano oil..I push on the pocket and drain it several times a day 
and the color is light green. It is grossing me out. I have no insurance and 
until I lost my job and year and half ago I kept up on dental visits and 
cleanings. I am 62 and am wondering if age plays into it.
I have even injected the peroxide into the infected area...then switched to the 
cs with DMSO..it's not getting worse but it is not going away. 
Going on the third week now...will it stop eventually?
Any input would be appreciated,

Thanks Deb 

Re: CSFwd: Poison ivy/oak/sumac

[Steve G]

I have great success running 6V of direct current through my poison ivy 
encounters for about 5 minutes.  You can do this with a lantern battery, a 
couple wires and a couple of sponges.  You can look it up on youtube using the 
words 'godzilla germ killer.'  It's pretty simple and very safe.  You will feel 
nothing.

The theory is that in 5 minutes trillions of electrons have traveled through 
your skin or gut from one sponge to the other and that the electrons will alter 
the make-up of the proteins involved.   This also works with snake bites, bee 
bites and maybe a few other bites as well.

It worked great for me, and you don't have to believe in it for it to work.

Best of luck

Steve







 From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:02 PM
Subject: CSFwd: Poison ivy/oak/sumac
 






 Original Message  
Subject: Poison ivy/oak/sumac 
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:56:40 -0400 
From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv 
Reply-To: bruce...@btes.tv 
To: silverl...@eskimo.com 


Need help with remedies.  Subject has had this for several weeks. 
Predneslone ? and salve from doctor does not help.  What 's best? 




 
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Re: CSTonsil stones

[Steve G]

I used to get those 'stones' from time to time.  I wouldn't notice them until 
they got big enough that I could feel them while swallowing or that they'd rub 
against and irritate the tissues that the tonsils normally touch.  


I found that if I had a long enough swab I could loosen them and remove them.  
White hard lumps.  If you squeezed them they would have this horrific smell 
like a sewer.

Two possible things are going on.  Food particles can get caught in there and 
build up.  But more likely, it is bacteria being killed off (by the tonsils?) 
and accumulating due to the crater effect.

If it's from bacteria, I think that a regular hit of CS would be a good 
preventative, but once you have the lump in there, I doubt that CS or any other 
thing you ingest would dissolve them.

Sometimes I have sneezed them out.  I have on occasion, taken something more 
sharp than a q-tip to dislodge these lumps, but I do NOT recommend that.  
Perhaps a tongue depressor would work, but you really have to watch out for the 
gag reflex.

I hope some of this helps.

Steve





 From: Diana Clock dianacl...@ymail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:29 AM
Subject: CSTonsil stones
 

Does anyone know if silver works for tonsil stones?
Or the rife dp100 for them?
Every since we battled lyme, etc. our son has craters in his tonsilsand the 
stones are showing up more frequently.
Thank you for any ideas

Diana

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Re: CSUrgent

[Steve G]

Dear A. Reid Harvey,

I'm so sorry to hear that you are stranded in London and those awful foreignors 
stole your wallet and phone out of your acquaintance's car.

Now tell me A. Reid Harvey, was this really an acquaintance, or was it a drug 
dealer or hooker?

I'd be happy to help you out with a 'soft' loan, but I don't know what that is, 
and since all I have is 'hard' cash, I don't think I can help.

But you know, Americans are in high demand in foreign countries, and I'm sure 
that you could 'earn' quite a bit of money there by performing 'personal 
services' for the local businessmen.  After all, sometimes we have to depend 
upon the kindness of strangers.  


Steve

PS - while in London don't forget to take in the sights.  I'd love to go there 
myself to see the Eiffel Tower and watch the antics of those crazy kangaroos!

-S



 From: A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com
To: A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 9:27 AM
Subject: CSUrgent
 


 
I am writing to inform you that i am presently in London,i am stranded here 
because i happened to get my wallet and phone stolen out of an acquaintances 
car and my wallet held my money and other valuable things.I will like you to 
assist me with a soft loan urgently with the sum of $3000 to sort-out my hotel 
bills and get myself back home.
I will appreciate whatever you can afford, i'll pay you back as soon as i 
return.I am worried with this situation .I need urgent assistance and any help 
from you will be welcomed.

Reid
 



Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 01:57:30 -0500
Subject: Urgent...
From: reidhar...@hotmail.com
To: reidhar...@hotmail.com

Re: CSLung Parasites

[Steve G]

I had never heard of such a thing so I looked it up!  I wish you the best of 
luck.  

Since this is a parasite rather than a bacteria or virus I wouldn't think that 
CS would have much impact.  Perhaps you would need to start a regimen of 
diatomaceous earth.   

What is your doctor prescribing for this?  I'm curious what sort of testing 
they did to determine this.   Sounds like something that  is rare enough that 
most doctors wouldn't catch it.   Most people  don't eat freshwater crabs or 
crayfish (outside of Louisiana!) so I'm thinking that most people aren't likely 
candidates.

I for one, am NOT going to start eating such things.  E!

Again, best of luck and check out DE

Steve





 From: Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:27 PM
Subject: CSLung Parasites
 


Anyone have any success treating lung parasites with CS? I have been nebulizing 
when I get a chest cold, but I just found out I have lung parasites and was 
wondering what schedule and dose would be needed. Any suggestions? Thanks in 
advance!

I will also be starting on a regimen of Black Walnut and Clove. 

Re: CSbioresonance

[Steve G]

If it works the way you want, very cool.  However, I'm a skeptic by nature and 
the bioresonance lady is likely telling ALL customers that their bodies don't 
like 'electro-pollution' and pesticides.  Personally, I think it is the rare 
person who is so sensitive to such things that it has an observable effect on 
them.  


Having said that, your hair IS falling out for some reason.  I suspect this 
practitioner is just guessing at what may be causing it. 


I have gone to sleep at night many times listening to binaural sounds to 
encourage the experience (real or apparent) of astral traveling.    I find it 
soothing as well, but it hasn't done anything noticeable for me, other than 
helping me sleep, which is never bad.

I encourage you to do research on this, looking for both passionate support for 
it as well as passionate criticism.   I would urge you to NEVER use the 
quackwatch.com site as a relevant source for anything.  So the passionate 
criticism has to come from some other source.

After reading the positives and the negatives give it your best shot and decide 
for yourself.   There's a lot of weird stuff out there with no merit, waiting 
for the sincere and gullible.  But some of the weird stuff out there is REAL.

Best of luck,

Steve




 From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: CSbioresonance
 


I recently had bioresonance testing. Has anyone else been tested with it? 
Anyone have an opinion about it? I got the testing because my hair suddenly 
started to fall out. Lots of it. The MD's think it is related to thyroid but 
haven't been able to fix it in over 4 months. Any way the lady that did it told 
me a lot of information. One of the things was that she said she detected the 
bacterium for Lyme and some fellow travelers. She also said my body does not 
like electro-pollution, and pesticides. She suggested I listen to theta binaral 
beats for emotional trauma. I did listen to that last night on utube and it was 
quite relaxing. I do actually feel and energy change or more full of energy. 
Any thoughts on any of this are welcome. Thanks a lot for reading this. 
Paula


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Re: CSinquiry

[Steve G]

I bought some 99.9% pure silver wire last year from an ebay seller.   I had to 
do a fair amount of research in order to make sure it really was pure silver 
and NOT sterling silver which would NEVER do.  Also needed to make sure that 
the wire was a fairly thick gauge, as this will yield superior results.

Steve




 From: BOBBIE TALLENT bearskinn...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: CSinquiry
 


hi;
i'm bob, and i'm new to CS.  would like to try it, though.  i have all the 
wherewithall but the wire.  could anyone please tell me where i can buy the 
finesilver wire at reasonable prices?
thank you so much.

bob

Re: CSRE: OIL OF WINTERGREEN FOR ARTHRITIS

[Steve G]

I took oil of garlic three times a day for a week.  Didn't do a thing for my 
arthritis, but my wife left me and has never been back.


My bad, I couldn't resist!

Steve



 From: melly tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:28 AM
Subject: CSRE: OIL OF WINTERGREEN FOR ARTHRITIS
 


 
In another yahoogroup, someone
wrote that applying oil of wintergreen, three times a day, cured his
arthritis.  Hasn’t returned since.  It took him 3 months to get rid of it.
Another member took three years
of daily use of oil of wintergreen, but it went away completely and never
returned.
 
Melly
 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:37 PM
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2013 #228

Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children

[Steve G]

I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very 
credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a 
real medical treatment.

Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings?

Steve



 From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM
Subject: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated  
children
 

Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children:

http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up-to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/

Marshall


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Re: CSTooth infection

[Steve G]

I've had success dealing with infections in a fractured tooth, but CS wasn't 
what I used.  I think it is too hard to get the CS to reach deep down in there. 
  Instead I used a 'godzilla' device as described in the yahoo group 
'microelectricity_germkiller.'   

Basically, you get a 6V battery and run 6V using wires and sponges or paper 
towels through the affected tooth for 5 or 10 minutes or so.   By doing this 
you are bombarding the infection with trillions of electrons.  Harmless level 
of electricity to humans but it destroys germs and viruses.   I cured my 
painful infected tooth in one or two treatments.  My wife cured her gum 
infection by doing the same sort of thing.

Great stuff!  Cheap!  I like it.

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From: Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com
Subject: CSTooth infection
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 12:47 PM

I just got back from the dentist. He did an xray on my mercury amalgam filling 
to see what it would cost to take it out. He said because of the expanding and 
contracting of the filling I now have a crack down the tooth and int ok the 
root. He said it is infected and could start bothering me really soon, or not 
for a while. But it WILL end up being a problem. I am wondering if anyone has 
had success in treating a tooth infection of this magnitude with CS? And if so, 
what techniques did you use? Thank you in advance for the advice!

Heather

Re: CShiv testimonial - CS did not work for me.

[Steve G]

This is puzzling to me in that I've never heard of Aids being caused anywhere 
by benzene exposure.  

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From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CShiv testimonial - CS did not work for me.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 11:52 PM

How then do you account for transmission of the disease from blood?

Dan

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
 On 2/22/2013 12:00 PM, bob Larson wrote:

 ...i read/followed the MMS scene for a couple years since it's onset.  i
 bought enough bulk powder to make lots of little bottles, and used it with 
 without CS experinenting  on my hepC.
 the stuff is vile, and for most there comes a time when it is too repulsive
 to take down.
 i read many HIV/AIDS failures and zero successes in local groups.  all the
 stories of MMS, zappers, beck protocol, Ag4O4,rife,... etc in africa and
 other places seem to have much better luck than here in the USA.  go figger.

 That is exactly what I would expect if my reading on it is correct.  AIDs in
 Africa is caused by parasites, which MMS kills allowing recovery,  most in
 the IS is from benzene exposure, in which CS, Zapper and MMS will do nothing
 for.  In both cases it appears the the HIV virus is not a cause of AIDS but
 rather an indicator that the immune system is deficient for whatever reason.
 From what I have read virtually 100% of the people in the US have the virus,
 but only those with AIDS have a count high enough to not be ignored.

 HIV counts are a good way to monitor the situation, but going after the HIV
 is only going after the monitor, not the cause. It is like having a fire
 making a lot of smoke, and ignoring the fire, and only trying to dissipate
 the smoke.  The smoke is an indicator, not the cause.

 I could be wrong on this, but from all I have read over the years that is
 the conclusion I have drawn as it seems to be the only hypothesis that fits
 all the data.

 Marshall


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Re: CSNebulizer information needed

[Steve G]

Neti pots need to be used with care, which just means carefully washing it 
before using.  Casual use has resulted in brain infections occasionally, with 
final results.

Having said that, I started using CS in my CPAP machine about a week ago, and 
everyone around me has been getting terrible colds, but not me!

I only seem to be able to only get 4 - 5 hours of sleep each night, so I think 
this is greatly enhancing my health.

Steve

Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:


A friend with a bad cold (?) wants to use a combination of
CS and normal saline in her nebulizer (or neti pot) so the CS won't
hurt.
I'm over my head here.  I just nebulize with CS straight and cough and
cold disappear.
Thanks for any experience!
Judy Down Maine



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Re: CSSilver and Extreme Dry mouth

[Steve G]

The cause of dry mouth should be investigated.  There are a number of causes 
for such a condition.  Could be related to medications you might be taking, 
maybe even diet.  A suspicious candidate is Sjogrens Syndrome, which is an 
auto-immune disorder.

My wife has this syndrome and it's no fun.  As a result she does not produce 
enough saliva,  and her tear ducts don't produce enough tears, so she's very 
sensitive to wind, fans and so on, and has to take eyedrops a couple times a 
day.   The deficient saliva glands pose a risk to dental health, not to mention 
the discomfort.

Have you any reason to suspect auto -immune disorders?

Something that helps is LDN therapy.  There is an excellent Yahoo group 
centered on LDN, it's uses, and the diseases which can be helped with it.  Most 
people in that group have MS, but plenty of other folks there too.

Best of luck.

--- On Fri, 1/25/13, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: CSSilver and Extreme Dry mouth
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013, 11:52 PM

Hi,
Any suggestions for using CS or any other treatment for extreme dry mouth?
Tried MMS and a slight dry mouth has turned into extreme dry mouth --pain, and 
only being able to eat soft foods. Stopped MMS. I have done the godzilla thanks 
to suggestion from this site

 I have tried oil pulling, clay, tooth soap, no tooth paste, baking 
soda, peroxide. I have MCS so I am sensitive to regular mouth washes and
 toothpaste.

 I would appreciate any suggestion you might have.

 Thanks, Sandy

Re: CSyellow CS, also cayenne

[Steve G]

As far as cayenne goes.   get a glass of warm water, as warm as you can get 
it, add a tablespoon of honey to it and about 1/4 teaspoon of the cayenne 
pepper.  One can gradually increase the dose of the cayenne pepper until they 
get to a teaspoon, but start very low and see how much you can get down.   This 
will be an intense experience and the honey makes it much more palatable.

As far as a yellow tint to the EIS, it's not unusual.  Some of my batches are 
crystal clear and some batches have a tint.   I suspect it has something to do 
with whether I remember to rinse the jar with distilled water before starting 
another batch.  Still usable and the tint will be more obvious as the ppm goes 
higher.

Steve

--- On Fri, 1/11/13, Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSyellow CS, also cayenne
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 4:01 PM

Hey guys,I bought some colloidal silver at my local healthfood store, and it is 
yellow.  Is it still useful?  I need to use it for some mild bronchitis my wife 
has, and for me (my lungs tingle a little).  The brand is Source Naturals 
Wellness Colloidal Silver (30ppm).

Also, I heard that cayenne pepper helps by breaking up mucous.  Any tips on how 
to administer that or your experience?
-Ken

Re: CSCalculate amount of grams in a 10ppm 45ml dose please?

[Steve G]

I don't know the answer off the top of my head, but at 10 parts per million, 
the answer is not going to be in grams.   You'd have to have gallons of the 
stuff before you'd get to a gram.

Steve

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com
Subject: CSCalculate amount of grams in a 10ppm 45ml dose please?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 2:01 PM

Hello community,

Can somebody kindly help me calculate the equivalent of silver grams in a 45ml 
dose?  Please let me know how you did that math.
The liquid would be colloidal silver at 10ppm.

Thanks
Alex


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CSRe: CSRe: CSblending versus juicing: my 2¢

[Steve G]

I'm just curious, Lena.  How do you KNOW there was a loss of nutrients?   Seems 
like to accurately assess such a thing would require some sophisticated 
equipment capable of determining nutrients before and after juicing.

I imagine that technically it is impossible to only remove pulp without losing 
some of the good stuff, so I can easily believe your assertion.  But couldn't 
one just juice more of whatever it is from which you want to derive nutrients?

I'm not a juicer nor a blender, so I have no bias and no particular interest 
other than curiosity.
Steve

--- On Fri, 1/4/13, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
Subject: CSRe: CSblending versus juicing: my 2¢
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 7:29 PM

I've retired my Champion juicer! Even with feeding the pulp through several 
times, I know there was loss of nutrients by that method. Unable to afford a 
Vitamix, I'm making smoothies and juices with my Nutribullet (not to be 
confused with less powerful MagicBullet) and have increased my organic 
raw-veggie/fruit intake to a much higher level. 
The convenience of this helped compliance. Compliance is a factor to be 
considered. The Champion was such a pain to clean that it languished on my 
counter, unused, a lot. The Nutribullet gets used several times a day. Even 
some of my Vitamix friends prefer the Nutribullet for easy use. No, I don't 
have any commercial, vested interest in this product and I don't know how 
durable it will be, long-term, but it's performed well for almost 8 months.
Be well,Léna 
On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Paul wrote:
I do one of each every day :). 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

Apologies if this is too off topic or covered before.

Is there any consensus in the blender versus juicing debate, wrt which one (a) 
damages nutrients less and (b) which results in the most absorb-able output?

I read lots of claims both ways but I wonder if there is any real evidence 
supporting any of the claims? 

It seems logical to me that both do about the same amount of damage to the 
food, even the expensive juicers like a Norwalk, no?

-- 
Alan Jones

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Re: CSRe: Polio

[Steve G]

in relatively recent years, it has been found that people who survived polio 
infections when they were young became subject to a recurrence of it much later 
in life.  I am not sure whether this is presented as an actual infection, or 
with merely an intensified weakening of the affected body part.  One must take 
care to consider all possibilities before arriving at a firm conviction.  
Personally, I doubt that the smallpox vaccine would be implicated with polio 
issues, but I'd be open to persuation.

Steve

Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

My Aunt was three years old when she got polio in 1910.She survived,but with a 
leg deformity and sterile.She lived to a very ripe old age with a recurrence 
of polio  in her 70s.I never knew if she had been given the Small-pox 
vaccine.Would not be surprised  though.My grandparents were homesteading in 
Nebraska with a native tribe adjoining,Otoe,if I remember right.An awful lot 
of years since I heard the story,

Harold

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To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com 
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2012 #540

Re: CSzapper burns graphite vinyl material

[Steve G]

I googled 'graphite cloth' and this is one of the links I brought up.  
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|16458|309345id=16304

Is that the kind of thing you're looking for?

Steve


--- On Sun, 12/30/12, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Subject: CSzapper burns  graphite vinyl material
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, December 30, 2012, 9:33 AM

Thanks to everyone who responded to my email on zapper burns.  I eventually 
remembered I had some graphite gloves that I used as electrodes and started 
using them and have not had another burn. 

Now I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can get some of the graphite-vinyl 
material.  I have hunted the internet and have not been able to find it.

Thanks... and Happy New Year.  I have greatly enjoyed all of your 
correspondence over the time I have been on this list.
PT

Re: CSBacking Soda

[Steve G]

Hi, 

You'd want to avoid the no-name brands that you can get at dollar stores and 
discount locations as some of those have aluminum in them.   Arm  Hammer, 
contrary to specious rumors and unfounded assumptions, is totally safe and has 
absolutely no aluminum content as tested and proven by my son, who is a 
chemist. Bob's Red Mill (sp?) is also safe but tends to be much more expensive, 
like most his products.

Steve

--- On Tue, 12/25/12, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSBacking Soda
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 3:09 PM

Happy Holiday's All!!!
What's a good brand of baking soda to buy?
 
Thanks
Paul Steel

Re: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

[Steve G]

Any time someone makes claims of argyria from colloidal silver there are a 
number of things that you need to take into consideration before concluding 
that CS was indeed the culprit.

1 - the term Colloidal Silver is sometimes used very loosely to describe any 
sort of silver-containing liquid compound regardless of how it was made.   Only 
EIS, electrically isolated silver should be used.   

2 - Did the person make their own CS?   They must be careful to do it right.   
The jars used should be rinsed with distilled water, then emptied, then they 
can be filled with distilled water.   Some people like to put tap water in to 
save on the small expense, or perhaps to put in a pinch of salt.  Both of these 
strategies will result in a much quicker batch processing time, but will NOT 
result in real CS as there will be unpredictable silver salts created as a 
result.   Paul Karason used salt as a primer for years for his 'CS' which has 
resulted in a deep blue skin condition.   This stuff is not poisonous and IS 
effective and Paul has not stopped taking it.   I guess once you turn blue why 
bother to stop taking that which keeps you healthy?

3 - How much CS/EIS is the person taking?   Taking an ounce or so a day of 10 - 
20ppm should normally be adequate for protection.  Taking large doses for 
serious illnesses such as lyme disease, syphilis, or other terrible diseases 
may be warranted in the short run, but a maintenance dose of 8 ounces or so a 
day seems to be overkill.    Even properly prepared colloidal silver over time 
can, I understand, cause argyria in some people if taken long enough.

4 - Early warning signs.  The first place a color change will show up normally, 
is in the 'moons' of the fingernail beds.  Get in the habit of checking them 
out daily if you are taking a lot of CS.   If they have started to turn grey or 
blue, it is time to reassess what you're doing.

Finally, I have read some time back in this mailing list about a guy who cured 
himself of a very serious late-stage 'fatal' illness (it may have been 
syphilis) by using megadoses of some silver tincture preparation over the 
course of several months.   He regained his health, but turned blue.    Argyria 
is supposedly permanent, but according to his tale, he reversed his blue skin 
condition by switching to pure EIS/CS for some time.  Later, to prove a point, 
he took the silver tincture and resumed his argyria condition, then cured 
himself of it again via EIS/CS.

I haven't experienced this myself, and am not anxious to.    It may be that 
some people are susceptible to argyria and some are not, or that for some, 
argyria IS going to be permanent, but can be reversed in some cases. There 
is a lot of unknowns here.

Best of luck,

Steve





--- On Sun, 10/28/12, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: CSDoes CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sunday, October 28, 2012, 2:16 AM

Hi,
I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for Lyme 
treatment.
I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But then I 
read in a  post today that  Dave  said 
   After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
   oz
 every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day

 or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria

I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.

ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe site 
does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the 
correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS generator was 
recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?

Thank you for your help.
Sandy

Re: CSMaking silver colloids from silvernitrate and trisodium citrate

[Steve G]

2 million PPM is, by definition, impossible.  A bar of 100.00% pure silver 
would be 1 million PPM, and you can't get more than 100%.


--- On Wed, 10/17/12, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:

From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Subject: CSMaking silver colloids from silvernitrate and trisodium citrate
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 6:07 PM

The reason I am trying to try things like this is because my bugs are not 
dying.  If I take a swig of 1000PPM silver citrate, I get a herx, but I am not 
ready to do that regularly as I am afraid of argyria.  I have also taken a few 
drops of 15,000PPM silver citrate with barely noticeable response.   Other 
things I have thought of doing are drops of super concentrated silver nitrate, 
but there are warnings that it may not be safe to contact tissues at higher 
PPMs, so I am shy about that.  And then also that may turn me blue eventually.  
Silver nitrate can supposedly reach like 2 million PPM at saturation.

Well, then I suppose another approach is trying super concentrated silver 
colloids.  I feel a little better about that since I have not heard of anyone 
getting argyria from silver colloids, but tell me if I am wrong. Also no one 
has complained about toxicity of lower PPM silver colloid suspensions.  One 
claimed method is using the reducing agent from silverlungs:
http://shop.silverlungs.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AGENTThey only 
recently started selling it separately.  Though I would need a high PPM ionic 
solution in order to convert to colloids in the first place.  I suppose I could 
just see what happens if I mixed it with silver citrate or silver nitrate 
solutions in that case.

And then there is this 
method:http://www.ktu.edu/lt/mokslas/zurnalai/medz/medz0-87/03%20Electronic...(pp.287-291).pdf
Apparently, you can mix silver nitrate and trisodium citrate to make colloidal 
silver.  The method described in the paper would yield approximately 100PPM 
colloidal silver assuming it all gets converted.  This begs the question if the 
same process would work for much higher concentrations, perhaps making say 
1000PPM silver colloids?  

And also, I was reading some other forum where people were mentioning using 
cinnamon extract to make silver colloids.  Anyone know anything about that? 
...

Trisodium citrate supplier:http://www.alfa.com/en/gp100w.pgm?dsstk=36439Silver 
nitrate facts and 
supplier:http://www.saltlakemetals.com/Silver_Nitrate_Solution.htm
http://www.saltlakemetals.com/Solubility_Of_Silver_Nitrate.htm
David

Re: CSMRI Question

[Steve G]

I don't know if I could blame this on CS.   I've had some MRI's recently.  The 
most recent one was of my neck.   I don't take CS regularly just as needed.  It 
was a long session because they also did my thoracic area.  The entire MRI 
process took 1 1/2 hours.    It gets pretty hot in there.

I had no pain, no headache, nothing like that at all.

Steve

--- On Mon, 7/23/12, Teri t...@welshspringers.com wrote:

From: Teri t...@welshspringers.com
Subject: CSMRI Question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:22 PM

Has anyone had an unusual experience having an MRI?  I seldom take CS as I am 
very healthy and it has been over 6 months since I had any CS at all.  Today I  
had an MRI and my face was numb and I had a terrible headache when I got out of 
the machine. The MRI was off my neck.

Teri


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Re: CSEffects of CME and GMA on humans

[Steve G]

The article had a few inconsistencies and irrelevant pieces to it, but wisely 
never once led to cause and effect.  At least they had the sense to label the 
attributes as correlations.  But this proves nothing at all.

And to my thinking, even if there IS a cause and effect, what difference does 
it make if you can not alter astronomic events?  You just have to go with the 
flow.

--- On Sat, 7/21/12, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSEffects of CME and GMA on humans
To: searching-alternati...@yahoogroups.com, crock_lakhov...@yahoogroups.com 
crock_lakhov...@yahoogroups.com, oleanders...@yahoogroups.com, 
silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 12:06 AM

Here is a very interesting report on effects of CME and GMA on humans.  Please 
read slowly and carefully.  It is chock full of information.  Learn not to mess 
with your melatonin.
 
Melly
 
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http://bellwetherpost.com/tag/coronal-mass-ejection/

Re: CSHow can I go no mail?

[Steve G]

You could always create a filter for CS emails so the CS email doesn't go to 
your main mailbox.   That's what my wife does with all the retarded emails she 
gets from her dad.  99% are forwards and un-checked alarmist pieces of junk.

Works great for her.

I use a filter for CS and when I need to cruise through the stuff I just go to 
that folder.  Works great.

Steve

--- On Sun, 6/24/12, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com
Subject: CSHow can I go no mail?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 8:13 AM

What is the website for this list and is there a way of going no mail
or digest only?


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CSDark EIS

[Steve G]

Hi folks,

No doubt this has been discussed somewhere before.   My most recent batch of 
EIS from my Silver Gen came out darker than anything I've seen to date.    Kind 
of a golden almost tan color.

I thought I had done everything just like normal, but may have forgotten to 
rinse the jar with distilled water first.  Pretty sure I wiped down the silver 
strips.

Is this safe?  Unsafe?  What should I do?

Steve

Re: CSDark EIS

[Steve G]

Thanks.  But does the dark color mean anything?  Is it an unusually high ppm?  
Has it been contaminated?   What does the H202 do when added?  Should that be 
food grade or drugstore grade?

Thanks.

-- On Sat, 6/23/12, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSDark EIS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012, 12:26 PM

Let it sit for a few days and then add a few drops of H2O2.  It'll likely clear 
right up.  If it bothers you too much use it externally for stuff.
Jaxi

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi folks,

No doubt this has been discussed somewhere before.   My most recent batch of 
EIS from my Silver Gen came out darker than anything I've seen to date.    Kind 
of a golden almost tan color.


I thought I had done everything just like normal, but may have forgotten to 
rinse the jar with distilled water first.  Pretty sure I wiped down the silver 
strips.

Is this safe?  Unsafe?  What should I do?


Steve

Re: CSParalyzed vocal cords

[Steve G]

I'm thinking that acupuncture may be helpful as well.  I wouldn't bother with 
homeopathic remedies for any condition, unless it is one that could respond to 
placebos.  .Electrical stimulation sounds the most promising to me.

Best of luck.


--- On Tue, 6/19/12, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
Subject: CSParalyzed vocal cords
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 12:33 PM

Does anyone have any suggestion on getting paralyzed vocal cords working 
again?  My daughter had thyroid cancer, and when they removed her thyroid her 
vocal cords got paralyzed.  I have been searching for any alternative 
therapies, and have found some Chinese herbs, homeopathic remedies, and maybe 
electro stimulation.

Brooks, any research in this area you are aware of.

Thanks,

Marshall


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Re: CSBruise with hard center?

[Steve G]

If it's a spider bite, I doubt that EIS would do much for it as it does not 
sound like an infection.    I sure hope it's not a tick bite.  Wouldn't hurt to 
google up some spider bites and tick bites to see if anything looks like your 
daughter's thing.  I know that tick bites look like bull's eyes, so this is 
something to take seriously.

I have had wonderful success with my home-made 'Godzilla' as described by the 
germkiller microelectricity group.    Nothing more than a 6V battery connected 
to two damp sponges.  You place a sponge on either side of the site so that 
trillions of electrons run through the site.  Maybe about 5 minutes and then 
switch polarities so it goes the other way.  The thinking is that this runs 
through the toxin and alters the protein rendering it harmless to humans.

I don't know if this works on spider bites, but it works wonders with bee 
stings and poison ivy.   Easy and cheap so it's definitely worth a try.   
Absolutely nothing higher than 6V though.  6V is very safe.  9V - not so much 
and very important not to let the electricity enter through an open wound or 
sore.

You might also use DMSO 70% gel on the bite and see what happens.  On poison 
ivy it instantly stops the itching.


Best of luck.

--- On Mon, 6/4/12, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
Subject: CSBruise with hard center?
To: herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, June 4, 2012, 9:02 AM




 
 










Hello All, 

   

My daughter woke up this morning with a light purplish
bruise on the lower part of her shin bone. It’s about 2-3 inches in
diameter with a light yellow center which feels like a small stone (tender to
the touch). She does not remember banging herself yesterday – but she is
a very active 9 year old and I can’t rule it out. However, at the same
time – I wonder if it could also be a spider bite of some sort. 

   

Either way – what’s the best course of treatment
at this time? I can make a poultice of EIS (silver water) and then I was
thinking perhaps a comfrey poultice. Is there any way I can draw any of the
toxin out if it is indeed a spider bite?  

   

Thanks for your help!



 

Lisa (in NH) 

Re: CSThis is Worrisome -- Now it is our Tomato

[Steve G]

When they play around with hybrids, I have no qualms, it is just the natural 
process with some coaxing.    I'm not so comfortable with other methods, but 
mostly I want nothing to do with inserting weird genes not found in the 
species.  I've heard that some GMO plants have taken animal DNA of one kind or 
another and inserted it into plants.  Don't know if that's true or not.

So I'm open to GMO if it is not reckless.    So I suppose if the GMO was being 
done in China, for instance, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with it 
considering their total disregard for human safety.

Steve

--- On Thu, 5/31/12, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSThis is Worrisome -- Now it is our Tomato
To: searching-alternati...@yahoogroups.com, oleanders...@yahoogroups.com, 
silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 10:21 AM

Our tomatoes are in trouble.  Whatever they do they will alter the tomato 
genetically.  I sincerely hope they do not take out the beneficial genes  as 
they gmo the plant.
 
Melly
 
==
 
http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-unravel-tomatos-genetic-code-005438302.html

Re: Subject: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations

[Steve G]

I have never heard of Schauberger before this posting.   Did some snooping 
around on the internet and he sure is an interesting guy who made some helpful 
contributions.   

I was puzzled about the statement about water having a 'memory' and so googled 
the term Water Memory, which gave rise to a Wikipedia article of some interest, 
but it looks like the experiments that showed that water has a memory were not 
reproduce-able if the research was done via double-blind methods.

I think the question should not be 'how' homeopathy works, but 'whether' it 
works.   True believers will believe regardless whether any real proof can be 
provided or not.   I am not a believer in homeopathy and am convinced that if 
EIS were diluted via homeopathic methods until no silver atoms were left, which 
appears to be the standard, it would cease to have any effectiveness other than 
the placebo effect.

Regardless, I always like to read and hear perspectives and beliefs that are 
new to me or different than what I've been taught or have experienced.  I do 
try to be careful not to confuse opinions or beliefs with iron-clad facts.  It 
is my opinion that iron-clad facts and physical laws are far outnumbered by 
opinions and sincere beliefs.

Cheers

Steve


--- On Sat, 5/12/12, Carlene Yasak carlene.ya...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Carlene Yasak carlene.ya...@gmail.com
Subject: Subject: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, May 12, 2012, 7:36 AM

Re Images and research on water other than Dr. Emoto's, some of you may wish to 
look into Viktor Schauberger's life's work. It is fascinating.  He is the 
father of modern research ion the nature and behavior of water.  Articles and 
videos in many languages about him and those inspired by his research are easy 
to find on the internet. Most non-chemical community water purification systems 
are based on his findings as are most home purification units and commercially 
distributed exotic water hybrids that claim to produce water that is 
micronized, living, energized, etc.

In passing I will just mention that water has a memory as many who have 
wondered about why homeopathy works will know.  But that is another subject 
that we could debate endlessly, like the subject of water itself.  I only wish 
to point out that the subject is vast and I have learned a lot by looking into 
it.

Every good wish to list members,
Carlene

Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations

[Steve G]

It is interesting to note Snopes take on this issue - 
http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp   Not that I really trust 
Snopes.  But it is worth looking at such claims from several vantage points and 
testing and re-testing to confirm results.  Of course, this reference is not 
about microwave effects on food, but rather just plain water, so it does not 
directly address the suggestion that microwave has some sinister effect on food 
heated in this manner.   



--- On Fri, 5/11/12, leo hilar...@gmail.com wrote:

From: leo hilar...@gmail.com
Subject: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 8:40 PM

Dear Friends

In 1980 I briefly worked with botanist Bargyla Rateaver PhD, a notorious  
long-time organic-gardening professor for U.California. At the time Dr. 
Rateaver occasionally published on dangers to DNA posed by microwave cooking. 



As I knew something about nutrition, I wanted to know all about this issue. 
I was so fortunate to be able to directly and leisurely view this beloved 
professor's personal collection of research data on the issue. 


And so at that time I quickly learned... 
There is no argument that microwave cooking damages cells of many foods.
But what I learned is that all the available reports on the topic which Dr. B 
had collected concerning hazards  of microwaved food indicated the damage 
to biological cells was identical to that long reported with conventional 
cooking methods... 

And I learned it's not so easy to discuss the issue.
__
Anyway- re the discovery of water crystals -  Such beautiful pictures! 

So imaginative. There must be scores of photographers making images of the 
phenomenon.
But that is apparently not the case. 
Who can find any independent verification for the phenomena?
Not I.
What I have found is that this pretty book is a product of Transcendental 
Meditation interests.

As I am told is the case with the film What the BLEEP Do We Know which covers 
similar terrain.  


Otoh I absolutely *3* this one TM film: David Wants to Fly - about David 
Lynch. 
http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly    Love the meditators at 
their flying academy 

Did I notice that all TM flyers seem to be v.young, athletic white males... 
very occasionally overseen by older Indian male functionaries? Odd.) 

[btw,...another magnitude of meditation can be found in Crazy Wisdom 

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/crazy_wisdom_the_jack_kerouac_school_of_disembodied_poetics 
 ]



 Leo, Pasadena

Hi Jane,

For a long time, convenience had made me turn a blind eye to much of =20

what I've read about negative effects of microwave on food.

Then I read The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a =20

scientist who became fascinated by the structures of ice crystals =20

after varying factors were used on water (types of music, words taped =20=



to container, micro-wave, etc.). He did a small, scientific paper =20

about his observations and it that went viral, then was republished =20

for the general public. Just seeing the deformed structure of micro-=20

waved water has made me finally use it rarely. I simply didn't want =20

that sort of ugly chaos in the water of my body.



It also made me rethink the studies done years ago of plants leaning =20

toward or cringing from different types of music, language, etc. It =20

might not have been the plants responding at all, but rather, the =20

water within the plants. Check it out!



Be well,

L=E9na

Re: CStooth problems- can EIS help?

[Steve G]

Dentists only suggest root canals as a last resort.  They do this when the 
tooth nerve is dying.  If you ignore this, you can jeopardize your health as 
the decomposing mass will leach into your body.  The dying of the nerve will 
cause infection and as such will cause a lot of painful inflamation.

Sometimes, a nerve which hasn't been a problem, but has been in marginal 
condition will begin to die when disturbed by dental work such as getting a 
filling.

Once the nerve root begins dying, your best route is to go for a root canal.  

I see you didn't mention WHY you refuse to have a root canal.  I've had a 
number of them.  Not that big of a deal. As an alternative, you could have 
the tooth pulled I suppose, but that seems like a terrible waste to me.

And. it might not need a root canal at all.   I don't know where your 
filling was located, but often, a filling can cause problems and pain for a 
long time if it has changed your bite slightly, and you end up with a 'high' 
spot on that tooth so that every time you shut your jaws together the opposing 
tooth is jarring the filled tooth.  Doesn't take too long for this to cause 
excruciating pain.

A good dentist can make miniscule adjustments to the hitting surface of that 
tooth and eliminate the painful condition very quickly if the problem is the 
bite.

Only a dentist can examine you properly and determine what is going on.  They 
still can't act until you agree, so see the dentist.

As far as EIS goes, there's really nothing it will do about such a problem.  
Not until you ignore the dying nerve and it's causing inflammation and an 
abcess.   Very hard for EIS to get to it.

I have had success in treating painful throbbing abscesses by using the 
'Godzilla' device as described in the Yahoo Group - Microelectricity 
Germkiller. A Godzilla takes 5 minutes to make once you spend the $5-$6 
needed for the materials. sponges, some wire, and a 6V lantern style 
battery.  Amazing stuff.

Steve


--- On Thu, 4/26/12, Beth Harrison bethharri...@bellsouth.net wrote:

From: Beth Harrison bethharri...@bellsouth.net
Subject: CStooth problems- can EIS help?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 12:01 PM



 
 

Hello group--
Hoping someone has some words of wisdom for 
me.  I had a white filling replaced in a 
lower incisor 3-4 weeks ago, 
and it was fine until a few days ago.  I have 
had a dull
toothache for about 3 days, and now the tooth is 
sore to tap down on.  There does not appear to be any abcess--
I am going back to let the dentist check it this 
afternoon, but I am afraid of what he might suggest.  It's possible 

he will put me on an antibiotic, or could suggest a 
root canal.
 
I will not have a root canal.  However, what 
is the alternative?  Can EIS help with this, and how would I use it in 
this
application?
 
Full of dread...
Beth H
 
 

Re: CSAd, I did not write!

[Steve G]

Someone or something hacked into your email account and got your password.  
Usually, this sort of thing is resolved when you change your password.



--- On Tue, 4/24/12, James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSAd, I did not write!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 5:23 PM

I will check to find how this was added!! I do not put ads on my posts!!

Re: CSRe: root canal

[Steve G]

I think that's wishful thinking.  More likely to get help through 
microelectricity for somethnig like that.

--- On Sun, 3/11/12, mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net wrote:

From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
Subject: CSRe: root canal
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2012, 9:54 PM

Harold,
Last week I asked about cavities, I went to the dentist I must have a root 
canal.  He is a holistic dentist,the tooth is lightly discolored and in the x 
ray the root seem dark
Question can I keep applying silver (cs) will it take away the poison will it 
penetrate the tooth? I must have this done on the 20th

From: Harold har...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 4:26:56 PM
Subject: CSc s  Silver puppy generator

 Lost my link for Silver Puppy generator ,and googling didn’t help  any. 
Have an interested  buyer for a good simple machine. Have link for SG6,but she 
wants to compare. TIA, Harold 

Re: CScavities

[Steve G]

I don't think anything can actually 'heal' a cavity because the damage has 
already been done.  However, if you have gum disease and cavities in progress, 
plaque etc. CS is helpful, but what REALLY works well is an occasional 5 minute 
dose of micro-electricity.  This has had amazing results for people with 
abscesses, loose teeth, bleeding gums etc.

More info available at the yahoo group 'micro-electricty germkiller'



--- On Sun, 3/4/12, mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net wrote:

From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
Subject: CScavities
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 11:02 AM

A few months ago, healing cavities was mentioned.  I have lost my information 
on this, as I now find I have one.
Can anyone please tell me the method used and is it possible to heal cavities?
Mary

From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 3, 2012 4:44:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS on EMPTY STOMACH? (pets)




 
 


In a message dated 3/2/2012 8:10:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
goofeygal...@comcast.net writes:

  i usually take my CS as a swig and hold it in my mouth for 
  about 3 minutes before swallowing, regardless of empty or full 
  stomach.
   
  Obviously my cat cannot do that so i gently syringe into his 
  mouth but do it on empty stomach however i don't know if his stomach likes 
  that so am wondering if it's okay to administer with food?
   
  Susie

Hi Susie, I have seen many folks that put CS down for their pets to drink 
any time they want it. Some put it down straight some just mix it in with their 
water...I really don't think food or no food is a problem... some of our cats 
like it either way  a couple want nothing to do with it... If you have CS 
questions about pets, a really good site is here  --SilverPets 
:sign in  it's a yahoo group...Lois

Re: CSStrawberry Birthmark Query

[Steve G]

My daughter was born with one (not a premie) on her back.  It was small, and 
disappeared on it's own over time.   Yours sounds different since there are two 
and one is growing.   Back then, the doctor just said it was no big deal, not 
unusual, and would most likely disappear over time.

Some of these though are really big, so each situation is different.  I guess 
we were fortunate and it was never a big deal.

Best of luck.



--- On Fri, 2/10/12, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote:

From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
Subject: CSStrawberry Birthmark Query
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, February 10, 2012, 2:52 AM

Strawberry birthmark - on a premature baby now 8 months old - this phenomenon 
is apparently more likely on premmies, although it resembles a bowel 
protrusion, it is a birthmark, there is another one adjacent which is also 
growing, but which is internal.

Does anyone know of natural treatment for this? The Medical Profession offers 
Propanolol - for an 8 month old child!

Thanks

Jane 

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Re: CSQuestion ??

[Steve G]

Warts can be very troublesome and what works for one wart may not work for 
another.  

Here is a link to the wart question on the earthclinic.com site that I am fond 
of.  Read through it and see if any of them appeal to you.

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/warts.html

One I didn't read about at the site, but which has been helpful when 
consistently followed, is to get ahold of some living milkweed plants.  Tear 
off a bit of a leaf until the milky sap flows and cover the warts with the 
sap.  This has never failed to reduce warts for my wife, but then when they get 
small, she neglects to continue the treatment, so they've never gone away 
completely.   I suspect that this treatment and several other popular 
treatments have success for the same reason, which is that they all likely 
block air from reaching the wart.  My theory is the wart needs oxygen to 
survive.

If that is the case, it seems to me that the perfect treatment would be to 
paint the warts with superglue as that is long-lasting and would be the least 
trouble.  Re-paint every couple days and see what happens.

Years ago, my son had a plantar's wart.  I think we shaved off the top layer of 
skin and found a black nucleus that look like a tiny root shaped somewhat like 
a carrot.  We pulled it out with a tweezers and it healed and disappeared 
completely.

Best of luck,

Steve








--- On Wed, 2/8/12, juga...@aol.com juga...@aol.com wrote:

From: juga...@aol.com juga...@aol.com
Subject: CSQuestion ??
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 11:14 PM



 
 

I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a 
plantar's wart on both of my feet  ... the left foot is worse 
than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet.  The 
area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous.  Several months 
ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct 
tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart 
came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and 
placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the 
warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the 
warts.  One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart 
on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching 
never 
stops.  Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how 
to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern 
medicine?  I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions.  
Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8 
days, 
would I have any better success?  Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts 
have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk  .. When I do 
walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation 
around the wart area.  Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated... Thank you  .. Judy

Re: CSBoils and infections

[Steve G]

My son had wonderful success treating his boils with only 2 five minute 
sessions with a 'godzilla' zapper.  This is merely a 6 volt battery lantern 
connected to a couple sponges via wires.

He applied the moist sponges so that the electricity flowed through the boil 
for about 5 minutes.  Repeated it a day later.  Two days after that he went to 
do another treatment, but the boil was completely gone.

You can find out out all you need to know about this by joining the yahoo group 
micro-electricity germkiller.

Hope this helps.

--- On Fri, 2/3/12, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
Subject: CSBoils and infections
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, February 3, 2012, 4:52 PM

Hi group,

A friend has recurrent large and painful boils / infections under his skin 
which usually spreads but is temporarily treated with a course of three 
antibiotics.
He did try my cs with some but not much success and went back for antibiotics.
This time he got them I upped the dose of cs to 500ml per day , which finally 
did do something and got the infection retreating ! Phew !. But it did recur 
after two days when he got lax out of overconfidence and stopped the cs.

Is there other things I can do like hydrogen peroxide or msm or vitamin c  or 
iodine or something for him ... I Would like some pointers please. As its 
getting very serious and unmanageable.

I have a beck zapper , any advice or anecdotal stories on that . Actual 
evidence welcome!
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: CSviolet ray

[Steve G]

I have an 'Energex' system from the 1920's or so that I got at an Estate sale.

I had intended to resell it at a profit, but my son LOVED the thing and so I 
demurred.  I once had a headache with a hot spot on my forehead and applied it 
to that spot.  To my surprise the headache did go away shortly thereafter 
without any other intervention.  Coincidence?

My son used to experiment with it and would love to put a piece of paper 
between a finger and a tube and watch the tiny lightning bolts go from the tube 
to his finger and then show us the tiny holes burned through the paper.

I read somewhere that these things are great for killing headlice, but I'm here 
to tell you that's a crock!

Probably the most fun I had with it was when my extremely gullible 
father-in-law was over and I made up a BS story about how it may or may not 
have cured my headache.  I paused, then mused out loud that I wondered what 
would happen if I put it over my heart.  So I tried it and immediately 
pretended to go into cardiac arrest.    I gotta tell you, it was hilarious, but 
also very mean of me at the same time.  I have since repented of pulling such a 
stunt with my lovable, but gumpy father-in-law.

Now, if you are asking how it has improved my health and life well, the 
only thing ever is the headache thing, which is questionable.  Has never helped 
my wife with her daily migraines.  And we just keep it as a curio and a toy.    

I can't bring myself around to getting rid of it or selling it because my son 
loved it so much and he died about a year after we got it.   





--- On Sun, 1/8/12, Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote:

From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
Subject: CSviolet ray
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:45 AM



Has anyone purchased one of these devices. I would like to buy one. Was 
wondering if anyone could share there experience and what type to buy.
Thanks.
Paula


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Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

[Steve G]

Looks like it is razzle-dazzle to me.

--- On Thu, 1/5/12, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:

From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Subject: CSWhat is this silver product APeX
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, January 5, 2012, 4:20 PM

http://www.apexuap.com/index.html

David

Re: CSParkinson's disease

[Steve G]

Rodney,

It is very doubtful that CS could help with Parkinson's.  I would recommend 
looking into LDN therapy as I think I have recently read of some promising 
results with that.  

Best of luck,

Steve

--- On Sun, 11/27/11, Rodney Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote:

From: Rodney Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net
Subject: CSParkinson's disease
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, November 27, 2011, 10:18 AM




 
 










Can CS help? 

Re: CSathletes' foot

[Steve G]

Apparently CS can be used effectively on athlete's foot according to Steve 
Barwick, author of the 'Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual.'   I have never heard 
of this guy before googling your question.   And, I've never attempted to 
address fungal infections with it.  I've had great success treating athlete's 
foot with tea tree oil applied once or twice a day with a Q-tip.

    

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: CSathletes' foot
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 10:06 PM




 
 






 



Will cs help with athlete fungus? 

   

Rod
Samuelson

860-881-3734 cell

new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net 

   



 

CSSerrapeptase Dosage and My Personal Experience

[Steve G]

Just wanted to add in my recent experience.  The day I read a post on 
the CS list about Serrapeptase is the day I ran out to the health food 
store and bought a bottle.   I've been taking 40,000 IU twice a day now 
for almost two weeks.

My personal priority has been my blood 
pressure.   A number of years ago my doctor put me on 25 mg (a modest 
dose) of Toprol XL, a beta blocker.  It did a good job of  bringing my 
blood pressure down from approx. 150/95 down to 120/70.  Time has 
marched on and I continue to take the stuff as it appears to be a 
lifelong habit once started.   In the last six months I have been paying
 closer attention to my bp, discovering that it has gradually continued 
to worsen and was around 160/95 approx. occasionally going 'much 
higher.'

I was worried about it but hadn't yet
 gone to my doc for an increase to my prescription.  This was my frame of mind 
when I started taking this supplement.

It's
 been about two weeks now, and in the last few days I have seen numbers 
regularly in the 140's/ 80's.  This morning I came in at 136/80.

I
 know this is unreliable anectdotal evidence, but it's pretty compelling
 to me.  I think the Serrapeptase is doing its job for me!

I am indebted to the silver list.  Without this tip I know what direction I 
would have been headed.  I think I'm now on the right path.

Yesterday,
 my mail order arrived, with a bottle of 90 capsules of 120,000 iu 
each.   I won't be taking more than one of THESE capsules a day.

Steve

Re: CSDMSO and nebulized CS

[Steve G]

I've been nervous about nebulizing DMSO, and not so much about peroxide.  

My concern re DMSO is not knowing whether it will interact with the plastic 
parts of the nebulizer and carry weird stuff into my bloodstream.  I don't 
think there is much risk of this with peroxide though.  Any thoughts out there?



--- On Mon, 1/31/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:

From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Subject: CSDMSO and nebulized CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 11:48 PM

I am starting to give someone nebulized CS.  He has this nebulizer:
http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm

He does about 2 cc's, which takes about 10 minutes to nebulize.  How much DMSO 
should I add to this much CS?  If the answer is in percent, then percent by 
what (ie volume...mass...etc)?  Any safety concerns?  I'm just washing the 
nebulizer out with tap water between uses.  


He's always coughed up mucus, which got a lot better after alt. treatment for 
the cancer he has, a little of which touched his lungs.  But he still has some 
mucus and coughing going on, and his voice has always been raspy.  I think he 
smoked ages ago.  He's done a lot of nebulized peroxide.  I don't know what 
concentration, but a doctor gave that to us in bottles.  I suppose you wouldn't 
want to do nebulized peroxide close to nebulized CS as a safety thing also.


~David




  

Re: CSSO(translation)Rolston te ha dejado un mensaje...

[Steve G]

I'll translate this thing for you all!    SPAM



  

Re: CSneed a diagram for the B.E. unit

[Steve G]

Try this


--- On Sat, 1/15/11, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com
Subject: CSneed a diagram for the B.E. unit
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 11:46 PM




Hello everybody,
 
Can somebody please send/ post a copy of the diagram for the blood 
electrification unit?  I know that this uses three nine volt batteries, a multi 
meter, a rheostat and a bunch of wiring, but I need to see something that will 
jog my memory.
 
Thanks.
 
Reid Harvey
SilverCeramicSystems.com
  



  

Re: CSneed a diagram for the B.E. unit

[Steve G]

Or if you don't like magic, check out this site

http://www.unleashhealth.com/content/guides/breadboard_guide.html


--- On Sat, 1/15/11, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com
Subject: CSneed a diagram for the B.E. unit
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 11:46 PM




Hello everybody,
 
Can somebody please send/ post a copy of the diagram for the blood 
electrification unit?  I know that this uses three nine volt batteries, a multi 
meter, a rheostat and a bunch of wiring, but I need to see something that will 
jog my memory.
 
Thanks.
 
Reid Harvey
SilverCeramicSystems.com
  



  

Re: CSwifi?

[Steve G]

I have no doubt that the noise is real.  However, I suspect that the wrong 
culprit may have been identified.  I'd like to throw out the possibility that 
the noise was not related to an electronic device or radio waves at all, but 
instead could be tinnitus.    Mild case of it and only perceivable when things 
are ultra quiet.  And then when this person moves her head it disrupts the 
effect and the sound stops.

Or I could be all wet.

Steve



--- On Fri, 1/7/11, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote:

From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net
Subject: CSwifi?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 5:22 PM



 
 


This comes from a friend of mine,  any comment 
anyone?  I'd appreciate any input,  thanks,  Kathy.
 
I got the email from the silver list that 
said wireless iternet is harmful to our health. At night I am hearing an 
electronic noise that wakes me up, usually between 4 and 6 am. It sounds sort 
of 
like cell phone interference on a radio: a quick duh-duh-duh, duh-duh-duh 
followed by a beep beep beep... that gets louder and louder. The weird thing 
is, 
that as soon as I lift my head from the pillow to locate the sound, it stops. 
It 
has stopped like this every time I tried to find it. I did hear it one night 
before I went to bed, but it was very faint and I couldn't find a 
location for the source of the sound before it went away. My husband can't hear 
it. We do have internet service with wireless capabilities, but we switched off 
the wireless and only use the wired service to our computers. We even unhooked 
the main supply one night and I still heard the sound. I wonder could it still 
be the internet signal because of the antenna on the house? Do you know of 
anyone else with this experience? Any suggestions?
 


  

Re: CSspider bite

[Steve G]

Here's what you do for an insect, spider, or snake bite or even poison ivy 
etc.

Get a 6 Volt battery, connect the leads via wire to sponges that have been 
mostened.  Place the sponges on both sides of the bite for 30-60 seconds or 
longer so that this mild level of electricity runs through the bite spot.  

This will send trillions of electrons through the afflicted area and this 
changes the proteins causing the reaction to a form that does not cause a 
reaction.  Problem solved in seconds.

For more info, there are online discussions and yahoo groups such as 
micro-electricity germ-killer.    These sites have some cautions such as a 
prohibition against putting a lead in an open sore or abrasion, and also 
against the dangers of using more than 6 volts.

Best of luck.





  

Re: CSNerve Reparation

[Steve G]

You may wish to check out EMDR therapy Eye Movement Desensitization and 
Reprocessing therapy.    My wife and I both developed Post Traumatic Stress 
Disorder (PTSD) some time after our son was suddenly killed 9 years ago.

We each went to a therapist for grief counseling and therapy.  Eventually I got 
to the point of being able to move on in my life, but my wife got stuck.  They 
used the EMDR with her, and it made a very big difference.    As I understand 
it,  the desired goal is to stop the constant memory of the traumatic event 
from replaying itself over and over in the patient's brain.    EMDR did a good 
job of this for my wife.   

Neither one of us has PTSD any more, but at the same time, you need to keep 
thing s in perspective.  Losing a child suddenly like this will always affect 
your life forever, and it's not like you ever 'get over it.'   But you can get 
to the point where you can lead a relatively normal life.  

Steve



  

Re: CSmycoplasma

[Steve G]

Mycoplasma are pretty well-known, but normal medicine can't touch it since 
these bacterium have no cell walls, and that is what standard antibacterials 
target.

Fortunately, mycoplasma can be addressed through MMS1 and/or MMS2.  I don't 
know whether EIS has any effect though.

Standard medical theory is that a person has a 'normal' immune system, then one 
day 'something' happens and the immune system goes crazy and starts attacking 
it's own cells.

Another theory that doesn't get much press, is that auto-immune diseases are 
mostly NOT a matter of immune systems magically going insane one day, but 
rather the immune system is working the way it was designed.  The problem is 
that the mycoplasmas have infected skin, joints and/or organs and have 
penetrated the cells.  They are putting out foreign waste within the cells, and 
the immune system starts fighting these infections, but not very effectively.  
In the meantime, the immune system is always overwhelmed and the body is more 
susceptible to other diseases as well.

Standard medical treatment for autoimmunities includes immune suppression as 
with steroids.  This makes the patient feel better quickly, since the immune 
system has backed off and is no longer causing inflammation in the affected 
tissues.   Unfortunately, the side-effect of suppressing the immune system is 
that this allows the mycoplasma infection to become more invasive and affect 
additional joints, organs, or skin areas.

That's my take anyway.    

I believe that auto-immune diseases can be more effectively treated by use of 
LDN therapy, MMS1,  MMS2, and maybe CS as well.  Having said that, we are still 
struggling with my wife's auto-immune disease using both allopathic and 
non-traditional methods.  I don't know the best protocol to address auto-immune 
disease, but I do believe the answer lies in enhancing or reinforcing the 
immune system rather than suppressing it.

Steve G.

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--- On Wed, 11/10/10, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
Subject: CSmycoplasma
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 3:20 PM




 
 






Hello All, 

   

Has anybody heard of mycoplasma (a bacteria) – which can
effect different things including one’s immune system? 

   

Will using EIS kill this bacteria dead!?!? 

   

Lisa 



 




  

HOAX - Re: CSDO NOT CALL LIST - HOAX

[Steve G]

Isn't this one of those internet hoax emails we read about?  The last time I 
checked this one out, it was a hoax.   Personally, I never forward on any 
emails until I have personally checked them out.  Even if the email itself says 
it has been checked out by someone, I don't trust that either!

I get enough of these hoax emails from well-meaning friends and relatives.  
Let's not have them on the silver list.

Check it out if you like.   
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

Steve G.



  

Re: CSMMS - Not ACtivated.

[Steve G]

Hi,

I take mms without activating it and find it's much easier to take.  My wife 
activates hers before she takes it because she is on ant-acid medications and 
figures she might not have any stomach acid to speak of and wants to be sure 
it's effective.

Steve

--- On Fri, 10/15/10, pste...@yahoo.com pste...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi all

Question about mms. I meet someone that didn't activate the mms. He reason was 
that the stomach acid would activate it 

So he just put 6 drops in water and drank it. He thought klinghart did it this 
way as well

This guy is now well from lyme. Wondering if anyone else has use MMS this way

Thx all
Paul
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Re: CSCS: Burma road building WW2

[Steve G]

I just did a quick search on amazon.com and found the 'Burma Surgeon,' 'Burma 
Surgeon Returns,' and 'The Life of a Burma Surgeon' available in used condition 
for prices ranging between 1 cent and $5.39.

Amazing what you can find online isn't it?



  

Re: EXTERNAL:CSCS and MRI

[Steve G]

There is NO chance of silver reacting to the MRI.  Only ferrous metals 
containing the element Iron can react to magnetism.    Silver, being an 
element, is by definition non-ferrous.  Magnets are equally ineffective with 
silver, gold, bronze, aluminum, and watermelons.   



--- On Thu, 9/30/10, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL:CSCS and MRI
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 5:14 AM


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 there the


remotest possibility that the infinitely small silver particles can

react to the strong magnetism of the MRI machine?


I've somehow missed the original message and only saw the reply. Anyway I had 
an MRI body scan earlier this year. I had asolutely no problems. I take silver 
erratically but fairly often. I don't take it every day but always have it with 
me and can go through a bottle (500mls) in a day or two if my stomach, throat 
etc is bad.


The questions they asked before the scan were quite thorough. For instance, 
many years ago I tore a hole in the cornea of my eye and since I didn't know 
what had caused that, they insisted on x-raying it first to check there were no 
metal fragments. I never thought about the silver but as I said, I had no 
problems.


Cheers
Kirsteen






  

Re: EXTERNAL:CSZapper for Tooth Pain

[Steve G]

Wouldn't that make you jump out of your skin?

I had my wife use Godzilla externally when she was having a lot of bleeding 
from her gums.   Cleared it all up in 15 minutes, one application.

Steve

--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:

From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL:CSZapper for Tooth Pain
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 6:24 PM

I used a godzilla on a gold crown. I used the crown as one electrode and 
located the second electrode outside the mouth where the current would flow 
throuth the tooth. Seemed to work. 

 - Steve N





  

Re: CSinfected tooth

[Steve G]

If you join the Yahoo group 'microelectricity-germkiller' they have complete 
and easy instructions on how to make and use your own Godzilla device.   I have 
made several of these.  Takes about $6 of materials, and 5 minutes of time.   
When my wife told me that her gums had started to bleed whenever she brushed 
her teeth, I told her to 'zap' them with our Godzilla.    She spent one 15 
minute session running the meager 6V through her jaw applied externally only.  
The next day she had greatly reduced bleeding. After that she has had none.

Will it kill off the infection on a tooth?  I am absolutely sure of it.  This 
is a great device for spot infections in particular.

Best of luck.



--- On Fri, 9/17/10, Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote:

From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
Subject: CSinfected tooth
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 10:36 AM



Hi,
I would like to find out about the simple device to cure an infected tooth. Was 
is called Godzilla? I tried going back to get the address about V's device and 
how to operate it, but I couldn't find it. If anyone would send a link I would 
appreciate it.
Thanks,
Paula


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Re: CSColloidal silver works on Vampires

[Steve G]

Vampires have always been subject to silver.   Were-wolves are trickier, but 
can easily be controlled and then killed by forcing them to watch Gilligan's 
Island re-runs.  Few people are that cruel though, so for the most part, 
were-wolves are safe.

Steve

--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Subject: CSColloidal silver works on Vampires
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 10:23 AM

Last night on the True Blood episode, my wife told me that a vampire was 
repelled by spraying colloidal silver into his eyes. Funny, I thought it was 
werewolves that were affected by  silver.

Marshall




  

Re: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?

[Steve G]

My wife started having bleeding from the gums during her daily brushing 
regimen.  Much simpler than your situation, but rather than using EIS (which 
she hates) i suggested she try our godzilla zapper (instructions on the 
micro-electricity yahoo group).   Basically, she spent 15 minutes sending 6V of 
current through her jaws.   We think this has ended the beginnings of gum 
disease.

In the past she suffered terrible problems due to TMD (Temporo Mandibular 
Dysfunction) which is pretty much TMJ on steroids.    She ended up having a 
couple jaw surgeries to address congenital malformed bite issues. but had to 
prep for a year with a special splint that had to be adjusted frequently as her 
jaw joints healed and swelling was eliminated.

The dentist was a specialist in a fairly new dental approach called 
bioesthetics.  Worth checking into.  Changed my wife's life.





--- On Mon, 8/23/10, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
Subject: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com, LDN LowDoseNaltrexone 
lowdosenaltrex...@yahoogroups.com, ldnand...@yahoogroups.com, 
dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 12:22 PM

Last Monday I had my last 2 old fillings replaced.  Top left side of the 
mouth.  First molar and last molar.
 
I have had TMJ issues for over 20 years.  I wear a splint at night which 
typically helps.
 
I have a congenital fusion of C2/C3 which appears to refer left.
 
I always have some level of pain on the left.  My left tonsil is always 
slightly swollen, as are the glands/nodes under the ear and under the rear 
chin.  My left sinuses are always slightly congested/draining.  I get all 
migraines in the left side.  I have trigeminal nerve inolvment on the left with 
jaw pain/migraine activity.  I almost always feel like I have a mild ear 
infection on the left.  It was this cluster of symptoms that eventually lead to 
us discovering the congential fusion.

 
Okay, back to dental work - Monday afternoon fillings replaced.  Starting about 
Wednesday I noticed an increase in pain in left tonsil and the glands below the 
ear (sort of in front of the eustacian tube) and under the rear chin.

 
I thought, okay my body is a wee bit cranky about the dental work and fighting 
an infection.  I top first molar was also a bit sore and did not like it when I 
bit down on it - that pain has since mostly abated.

 
Late Wed the occipital node on the left also started hurting.  So now all those 
glands on the left are both swollen and painful, as is the left tonsil area and 
left ear area, the throat is a bit sore as well.  I am also tired and a bit 
lethargic - but we have a lot of heat and humidity here right now so I would 
expect that regardless.  Saturday I had a bought of diarrhea - but with the 
heat, humidity and the fact that I ate something I really shouldn't have - it 
may or may not be related.

 
I am not running a fever but am wondering if the LDN and EIS are keeping the 
infection in check just enough that I haven't gotten that bad yet.
 
Some things I've read online suggest occipital gland inflamtion is an 
indication of a fungal infection??  In my jaw/teeth?
 
I don't really want to do a round of antibiotics if I can avoid it.
 
I currently consume about 2 ounces of EIS a day - straight EIS (no salt, H2O2, 
or anything else added to it) - silverpuppy homemade.  1 ounce in the morning 
when I get up and another ounce at night before bed, I hold it in my mouth for 
1-5 minutes before swallowing.  I take 4.5 mg LDN at night (tx ulcerative 
colitis and pain with the LDN).  I take an assortment of other supplements (D3, 
tumeric, fish oil, DLPA, ALA, B complex, grapefruit seed extract and a few 
others at are escaping my brain right now).

 
I did try a couple rounds of oil pulling Thursday night, Friday and Saturday, 
but not since Sat morning.  It's the 4 hrs after food and at least 1 hr after 
beverage that messes me up.
 
Should I up EIS intake?  Oils of ... ??? oregano and cinnamin have both been 
mentioned in the past related to dental/mouth stuff I think ... Oils ingested, 
applied to inside of mouth?  Just suck it up and get antibiotics?  Ideas?

 
Sorry for the long email.  I do appreciate ideas.  I've been internet searching 
but it makes my head hurt because there is often so much conflicting info out 
there.
 
Jaxi



  

Re: CSFDA-Warns-Consumers-of-Serious-Harm

[Steve G]

In reference to the FDA scare warning at 
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/212938-FDA-Warns-Consumers-of-Serious-Harm-from-Drinking-Miracle-Mineral-Solution-MMS

Let's see.  Thousands of people around the world take this stuff daily or 
weekly.   Thousands have been shown to be cured of malaria, HIV, AIDS, cancer, 
flu, colds, and many other illnesses.  Has helped some recover from lupus 
and/or diabetes.  Germs and viruses can't become immune to it.  No research has 
been done by any recognized research lab or by the FDA.  You can't patent the 
stuff so there is no way for the FDA or big pharmacy to make any money off this 
stuff.

The worst side-effect anybody has gotten when following directions is mild 
nausea, occasional vomiting, and temporary diarrhea.  Guess how many people die 
each year from FDA approved prescription medication?

And now the FDA wants to scare everyone away from it.  I figure so many people 
are turning to something that is cheap and works that it is having an impact on 
a profitable industry.   Jim Humble was smart to move to an undisclosed 
location outside of the US.

Typical.







  

RE: CSLasers and thinning hair

[Steve G]

I tried a similar product and it worked great, at first.  I don't think the 
directions were clear enough or were just plain wrong, since as it turns out, I 
had some unexpected side-effects.

To help others, I have posted my photo online and it can be seen here.

http://www.eatonrapidsjunkbarn.com/photos/hairtonic.jpg

cheers

 



 




  

Re: CSZapper

[Steve G]

Kirsteen,

I recommend that you check out the microelectricity-germkiller yahoo group and 
read up on their files and postings.    What they experiment with and use is 
low voltage (max of 6 volts) direct current for the purpose of killing germs 
and viruses.    They stronger advise against anything higher than 6 volts and 
believe that more than that is dangerous.

This isn't the same thing as Dr. Clark's zapper though, so different levels 
apply.

I found an excellent description comparing the various electrical alternative 
treatments, including Clark's Zapper, the Godzilla, Rife Machines and so on.   
Message 18610 on the Microelectricitygermkiller yahoo group message archive.   
Or if you don't want to go there check out the web page I created that includes 
this info.

http://www.eatonrapidsjunkbarn.com/medical/electricity.htm










From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
Subject: CSZapper
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 9:13 AM

I've been seriously considering buying a zapper and am toying between these 
two. I'd really welcome any comments. Is there any advantage to having the dual 
frequency? I can see the timer might be a good idea.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zapper-Dual-freqency-of-30KHZ-2-5KHZ_W0QQitemZ150430846490QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies?hash=item2306608e1a


and

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zapper-Dr-Hulda-Clark-with-built-in-electronic-timer_W0QQitemZ150433257357QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies?hash=item230685578d


I've also seen a 12v zapper. Is that one any better?

Any advice would be really welcome

Cheers
Kirsteen




  

Re: CS3 year old and CS

[Steve G]

When my second son was in his first year, we went to his pediatrician for his 1 
year checkup.    He had numerous ear infections, sinus infections etc.  The 
antibiotics would run their course, he'd be better and immediately get bad 
again.  What a pain!

At his checkup, we found out that he had not grown at all for the last 6 
months.   This was a sign of trouble.   Turns out, he had a rare immunoglobulin 
A deficiency.   The doctor had been in practice for 35 years at that point and 
this was only the second case he had ever run into.   Apparently there are 
three different immunoglobulins, and each one covers a different area.    What 
is extremely rare is when a child has two deficiencies, or the VERY rare 
deficiency in which they are deficient in all three these kids are the 
'bubble' kids.

For my son though, it just meant that when he got ill, he had to take a higher 
dose and to stay on it for much longer.    Antibiotics are prescribed to fight 
the infection well enough and long enough so that the immune system can take 
over and finish the job.  In my son's case, there was nothing there to take 
over.

The doctor told us that about 80% of the time, such kids outgrow the deficiency 
on their own by age 5.   I am glad to say that this was the scenario for my son.

This is probably not what you are running into, but it is a possibility that 
should be investigated.  Your description coincides with my son's experience, 
but that doesn't mean it is the same situation.  If this is an unusual 
situation like my son's case, it is best to know exactly what you're getting 
into so that you can make an informed choice for his treatment, whether it is 
more intense anti-biotic treatment, or supplementing with colloidal silver.   

Steve

--- On Fri, 4/23/10, anth...@2betdsi.com anth...@2betdsi.com wrote:

From: anth...@2betdsi.com anth...@2betdsi.com
Subject: CS3 year old and CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 5:22 PM



 
 

   My 3 year old has had many ear and 
throat infections since he was 6 months. Each we have treated with different 
anti biotics. Along the way we have tried different homiopathic doctors, use a 
dehumidifier in his room, use anti allegic pillows sheets ect. Still he 
continues to never recover 100% and develops infections again and again. A 
friend informed me about this site and CS. I was hoping to see if there was 
anyone who has a similar experience with their child and if CS is something 
that 
could help. I tried to keep the e-mail brief, if more medical details are 
needed 
I would be happy to privide them.
 
Thank you in Advance
Michael 


  

Re: CSO/T Navarro test results.

[Steve G]

Apparently Doctor Schandl has developed a much more accurate testing protocol.  
You can check it out at http://www.caprofile.net/aboutDoctor-Schandl.html.  
Otherwise, I'm very ignorant on this topic.

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz wrote:

From: Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz
Subject: CSO/T Navarro test results.

I'm also wondering just how reliable the Navarro test is? Any information would 
me much appreciated.
Thanks, Roger BNZ



  

Re: CSSinus Infections

[Steve G]

We have several nebulizers here.   I pick them up at garage salse for next to 
nothing, and then my wife offers them at cost to her friends on her 'rat 
groups.' She has 6 pet rats.

Now the thing with rats is that almost all of them are born with a mycoplasma 
infection and as a result, they are prone to lung and breathing problems.  She 
has medicine that she administers to them that helps control this.  Sometimes 
one or more rat(s) will become ill with a breathing problem, so we hooked up a 
nebulizer to an inverted storage tub.  She puts the rats inside the tub, gives 
them some toys and bedding, and gives them a CS treatment with the nebulizer.  
It has been extremely helpful.

I would expect it to do similar things for us big folks.

Steve G