Re: CS>Distilled water

2021-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
If the LED shifts from green to red and back, it's doing its' job  of
switching polarity.
The wire will NOT stay shiny over time due to pitting and reformed silver
dust on the surface...but that isn't "crud" and needn't be disturbed..

If you press the button for 5 seconds, it will run in DC mode and you'll
get black crud on one side and white frothy crud on the other.
The older gen has a switch to run in DC mode.

Ode

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:31 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Now that I think about it, this never happened in the beginning, for
> years, so maybe the machine is breaking down.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:29 AM Kirsteen Wright <
> kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have the silverpuppy and I've never done more than wipe the wires down
>> with a soft cloth. I've never had any crud in the 6 or 7 years I've been
>> using it. It automatically keeps switching polarity.
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:21 Marshall,  wrote:
>>
>>> If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not
>>> build up any crud at all.
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
>>> On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
>>> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>>>
>>> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that
>>> is to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>>
>>>


Re: CS>Distilled water

2021-03-26 Thread Rick
My CS making kit came with a copper scrunchy specifically to clean the
silver rods after each batch.


On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:00 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>
> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that is
> to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>
> Jean
>


Re: CS>Distilled water

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

Now that I think about it, this never happened in the beginning, for years,
so maybe the machine is breaking down.

Thank you,

Jean

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:29 AM Kirsteen Wright <
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the silverpuppy and I've never done more than wipe the wires down
> with a soft cloth. I've never had any crud in the 6 or 7 years I've been
> using it. It automatically keeps switching polarity.
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:21 Marshall,  wrote:
>
>> If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not
>> build up any crud at all.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
>> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>>
>> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that is
>> to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>


Re: CS>Distilled water

2021-03-26 Thread Kirsteen Wright
I have the silverpuppy and I've never done more than wipe the wires down
with a soft cloth. I've never had any crud in the 6 or 7 years I've been
using it. It automatically keeps switching polarity.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:21 Marshall,  wrote:

> If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not
> build up any crud at all.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>
> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that is
> to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>
> Jean
>
>
>


Re: CS>Distilled water

2021-03-26 Thread Marshall
If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not 
build up any crud at all.


Marshall

On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi,

'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is 
sourced from wells or municipal water.


I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that 
is to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.


Jean




CS>Distilled water

2021-03-25 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
sourced from wells or municipal water.

I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that is
to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.

Jean


Re: CS>distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread phoenix23...@tds.net
Well, that answers that question..lol.   Makes sense.  Thank you, John.
Lola
- Original Message -
From: jpopelish . 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:45:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CS>distilled water


On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:07 PM, phoenix23...@tds.net 
wrote:
I am just 'blue-skying' here but... what about those water filters called 
'Zero' filters?  Could one of those be used to filter
distilled water to help remove any undesirables or would it add TDS amounts?
I know zip-doo-dah about distilled watersand/or filters.  Just wondering.Lola
​An ion exchange filter removes minerals and replaces them with water, 
so they are a good part of preparing water for your distiller (it will stay a 
lot cleaner).  
But they also greatly reduce the conductivity (TDS) of tap water, 
if you can't find distilled water to make CS.​
-- 
Regards,

John Popelish




Re: CS>distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread jpopelish .
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:07 PM, phoenix23...@tds.net 
wrote:

> I am just 'blue-skying' here but... what about those water filters called
> 'Zero' filters?  Could one of those be used to filter
> distilled water to help remove any undesirables or would it add TDS
> amounts?I know zip-doo-dah about distilled waters
> and/or filters.  Just wondering.
> Lola
>

​An ion exchange filter removes minerals and replaces them with water,
so they are a good part of preparing water for your distiller (it will stay
a lot cleaner).
But they also greatly reduce the conductivity (TDS) of tap water,
if you can't find distilled water to make CS.​


-- 
Regards,

John Popelish


Re: CS>distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread Jerry Durand
We were just out shopping and my wife pointed out the "Water Store" next
to where we often shop.  Went in and distilled water is $0.70/gallon in
your own container.  We just bought three gallons of the Walmart water
at $1.07/gallon ($0.88 + California bottle charge).  Next time we go
shopping I'll take my TDS meter and a small cup and ask to test their
water.  Might check around your area for water stores.

-- 
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tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886


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Re: CS>distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread phoenix23...@tds.net
I am just 'blue-skying' here but... what about those water filters called 
'Zero' filters?  Could one of those be used to filter
distilled water to help remove any undesirables or would it add TDS amounts?
I know zip-doo-dah about distilled waters and/or filters.  Just wondering.Lola 
- Original Message -
From: Jean Baugh 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, 19 May 2016 16:48:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: CS>distilled water

Hi,
What happened with Great Value/Wal-Mart distilled water was, it worked great in 
the CS machine but then I got a whiff of overwhelmingly offensive odor.  I have 
no idea how long this had been going on but it was enough to make me stop in my 
tracks.  I decided to go ahead and make another batch of CS but it too stank to 
high heaven.  I have never used another gallon of Great Value distilled water.  
All the gallons of distilled water and the new batch of CS were tossed.  The 
odor was in the plastic jugs.  Out of curiosity, am I the only one who has 
noticed this?
I think you all are right, when you find a good source of distilled water, stay 
with it.  In this case it will be Walgreens even if I have to pay triple.
Interesting thought that if distilled water was unavailable, rain water would 
probably work fine.  
Thank you,
Jean


 I agree. I have a TT distiller and find that I am much better off
 buying the DW.


 As I recall Jean got a bad batch from Walmart. I get "Great Value"
 distilled water there - steam D, microfil & ozonation with never
 a bad gallon. I have had a bad Arrowhead brand from Groc. store.

Might be worth trying Walmart again.


 Ron

On 5/19/2016 2:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top
 distillers.


 Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the
 same circumstances as the commercial distillers.


 Source water counts.
 Minerals build up  
Boil over contaminates coils.
Volatiles come through first.

Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by
 nature..but comes out of a dirty container that should be well
 rinsed before using. [Let it rain a while before collecting]


 Ode

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean
 Baugh 
 wrote:
Hi,
I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley
 distilled water, last Friday but no answer nor a machine
 message.  I called back on Monday and asked if they were
 EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the
 Philippines.  He transferred me to their water expert
 but no answer and no message.
I called back a second time later to be conveyed to
 their water expert, Amanda Cannon but again, no
 response.
A forth and last time I told them I suggested they
 fire their water expert because no one answers and there
 is no message.  They excused themselves twice and found
 out the same thing.  The man asked what information I
 wanted about their distilled water and was told the two
 questions.  He said they would contact me by email.
Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve
 decided it is harder to acquire but possibly worth it. 
 The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water distributed by
 Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro
 filtered and ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by
 Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.  Source from a pure deep
 well in Shrevesport, LA’.
I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has
 anyone bought a steam distiller and been satisfied with
 it.  If so, could you please tell us the brand and any
 other information?
Thank you,
Jean




CS>distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

What happened with Great Value/Wal-Mart distilled water was, it worked great
in the CS machine but then I got a whiff of overwhelmingly offensive odor.
I have no idea how long this had been going on but it was enough to make me
stop in my tracks.  I decided to go ahead and make another batch of CS but
it too stank to high heaven.  I have never used another gallon of Great
Value distilled water.  All the gallons of distilled water and the new batch
of CS were tossed.  The odor was in the plastic jugs.  Out of curiosity, am
I the only one who has noticed this?

I think you all are right, when you find a good source of distilled water,
stay with it.  In this case it will be Walgreens even if I have to pay
triple.

Interesting thought that if distilled water was unavailable, rain water
would probably work fine.

Thank you,

Jean




 I agree. I have a TT distiller and find that I am much better off buying
the DW.
 
 As I recall Jean got a bad batch from Walmart. I get "Great Value"
distilled water there - steam D, microfil & ozonation with never a bad
gallon. I have had a bad Arrowhead brand from Groc. store.
 Might be worth trying Walmart again.
 
 Ron
 
 
On 5/19/2016 2:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
 
 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top distillers.
>  
>  
>  Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the same circumstances
> as the commercial distillers.
>  
>  
>  Source water counts.
>  
>  
>  Minerals build up
>  
>  
> Boil over contaminates coils.
>  
>  
> Volatiles come through first.
>  
>  
>  
> Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by nature..but comes out of a
> dirty container that should be well rinsed before using. [Let it rain a while
> before collecting]
>  
>  
> 
>  
>  Ode
>  
>  
> 
>  
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean Baugh 
> wrote:
>  
>>  
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled water, last
>> Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called back on Monday and
>> asked if they were EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the
>> Philippines.  He transferred me to their water expert but no answer and no
>> message.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water expert,
>> Amanda Cannon but again, no response.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their water expert
>> because no one answers and there is no message.  They excused themselves
>> twice and found out the same thing.  The man asked what information I wanted
>> about their distilled water and was told the two questions.  He said they
>> would contact me by email.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I¹ve decided it is harder to
>> acquire but possibly worth it.  The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water
>> distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro filtered and
>> ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.  Source
>> from a pure deep well in Shrevesport, LA¹.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> I¹m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone bought a steam
>> distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could you please tell us the
>> brand and any other information?
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Thank you,
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Jean
>>  
>>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
 




Re: CS>Re: cs distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread PT Ferrance
I'm happy with mine, a countertop steam distiller but it takes about 3 hours 
time and when I'm busy I find it simpler to purchase Walgreens Nice brand.PT




  From: Ron 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:47 AM
 Subject: CS>Re: cs distilled water
   
  I agree. I have a TT distiller and find that I am much better off buying the 
DW.
 
 As I recall Jean got a bad batch from Walmart. I get "Great Value" distilled 
water there - steam D, microfil & ozonation with never a bad gallon. I have had 
a bad Arrowhead brand from Groc. store.
 Might be worth trying Walmart again.
 
 Ron
 
 On 5/19/2016 2:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
  
Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top distillers.
 
  Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the same circumstances 
as the commercial distillers.
 
  Source water counts.
   Minerals build up  
  Boil over contaminates coils.
  Volatiles come through first.
 
  Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by nature..but comes out of a 
dirty container that should be well rinsed before using. [Let it rain a while 
before collecting]
  
  Ode
  
 On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean Baugh  
wrote:
 
  Hi, 
  I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled water, last 
Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called back on Monday and asked 
if they were EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the Philippines.  He 
transferred me to their water expert but no answer and no message. 
  I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water expert, 
Amanda Cannon but again, no response. 
  A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their water expert 
because no one answers and there is no message.  They excused themselves twice 
and found out the same thing.  The man asked what information I wanted about 
their distilled water and was told the two questions.  He said they would 
contact me by email. 
  Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve decided it is harder to 
acquire but possibly worth it.  The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water 
distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro filtered and 
ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.  Source 
from a pure deep well in Shrevesport, LA’. 
  I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone bought a steam 
distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could you please tell us the 
brand and any other information? 
  Thank you, 
  Jean  
  
  
 

  

CS>Re: cs distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread Ron
I agree. I have a TT distiller and find that I am much better off buying 
the DW.


As I recall Jean got a bad batch from Walmart. I get "Great Value" 
distilled water there - steam D, microfil & ozonation with never a bad 
gallon. I have had a bad Arrowhead brand from Groc. store.

Might be worth trying Walmart again.

Ron

On 5/19/2016 2:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top distillers.

Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the same 
circumstances as the commercial distillers.


Source water counts.
 Minerals build up
Boil over contaminates coils.
Volatiles come through first.

Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by nature..but comes 
out of a dirty container that should be well rinsed before using. [Let 
it rain a while before collecting]


Ode

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean Baugh 
mailto:oldgloryte...@srcaccess.net>> wrote:


Hi,

I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled
water, last Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called
back on Monday and asked if they were EST;  the man laughed and
said, No, this is the Philippines.  He transferred me to their
water expert but no answer and no message.

I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water
expert, Amanda Cannon but again, no response.

A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their
water expert because no one answers and there is no message.  They
excused themselves twice and found out the same thing.  The man
asked what information I wanted about their distilled water and
was told the two questions.  He said they would contact me by email.

Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve decided it is
harder to acquire but possibly worth it. The brand is: 'NICE!
distilled water distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam
distillation, micro filtered and ozonated to ensure quality,
bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.  Source from a pure deep
well in Shrevesport, LA’.

I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone
bought a steam distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could
you please tell us the brand and any other information?

Thank you,

Jean




Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top distillers.

Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the same circumstances
as the commercial distillers.

Source water counts.
 Minerals build up
Boil over contaminates coils.
Volatiles come through first.

Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by nature..but comes out of
a dirty container that should be well rinsed before using. [Let it rain a
while before collecting]

Ode

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled water, last
> Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called back on Monday and
> asked if they were EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the
> Philippines.  He transferred me to their water expert but no answer and no
> message.
>
> I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water expert,
> Amanda Cannon but again, no response.
>
> A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their water expert
> because no one answers and there is no message.  They excused themselves
> twice and found out the same thing.  The man asked what information I
> wanted about their distilled water and was told the two questions.  He said
> they would contact me by email.
>
> Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve decided it is harder
> to acquire but possibly worth it.  The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water
> distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro filtered
> and ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.
> Source from a pure deep well in Shrevesport, LA’.
>
> I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone bought a
> steam distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could you please tell
> us the brand and any other information?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>


CS>Distilled water

2016-05-18 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled water, last
Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called back on Monday and
asked if they were EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the
Philippines.  He transferred me to their water expert but no answer and no
message.

I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water expert,
Amanda Cannon but again, no response.

A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their water expert
because no one answers and there is no message.  They excused themselves
twice and found out the same thing.  The man asked what information I wanted
about their distilled water and was told the two questions.  He said they
would contact me by email.

Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I¹ve decided it is harder to
acquire but possibly worth it.  The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water
distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro filtered
and ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.
Source from a pure deep well in Shrevesport, LA¹.

I¹m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone bought a steam
distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could you please tell us the
brand and any other information?

Thank you,

Jean




Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-13 Thread Lena Guyot
I'd stopped nuking food quite a while ago, but still nuked water for 
convenience, UNTIL I saw photos of ice crystals of microwaved water compared to 
crystals from normal water, in the book:
The Hidden Messages in Water by Masaru Emoto and David A. Thayne 

The crystals were so hideously deformed that I just knew I didn't want my tea, 
coffee, soup, kombucha, etc. made with that stuff ever again.

Be well,

Léna 





On May 13, 2016, at 4:41 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:


> So you nuke your distilled water?  You might want to do some research about 
> what microwaving does to even water.
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> From: Jerry Durand 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water
> 
> The bottled water I get is charged with ozone to keep out bacteria.  As per 
> Silver Puppy instructions, I heat it in the microwave and then let it cool to 
> drive off the dissolved gases.
> 
> On 05/13/2016 12:31 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
>> Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it?
>> Also, contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor?  
>> Just a couple of thoughts.
>> PT
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  http://interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
> 
> 
> 



Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-13 Thread PT Ferrance
So you nuke your distilled water?  You might want to do some research about 
what microwaving does to even water.
PT



  From: Jerry Durand 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 4:06 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water
   
 The bottled water I get is charged with ozone to keep out bacteria.  As per 
Silver Puppy instructions, I heat it in the microwave and then let it cool to 
drive off the dissolved gases.
 
 On 05/13/2016 12:31 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
  
  Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it? 
Also, contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor?  
  Just a couple of thoughts. PT
   
  
 
 -- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  http://interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886

 

  

CS>Distilled water

2016-05-13 Thread Jean Baugh
HI,

No, never thought about off gassing but will in the future.

I called the toll free phone number on the distilled water, Clover Valley
and after asking if the plastic had BPA and if the Ft. Worth municipal water
supply was recycled water, was told their expert, Amanda Cannon would be the
one to talk with.  At 3:13 PM CST, there was no response or message machine.
I guess it is like the little town of Haskell, TX, where everyone but one is
gone from FSA early Friday, and everyone at the tax office is gone.  It
seems to be the new game to enhance the weekends.

I¹ll try again on Monday.

Thanks,

Jean


 
Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it?
Also, contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor?
Just a couple of thoughts.
PT



  
 
 
  

 

 
 
  




Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-13 Thread Jerry Durand
The bottled water I get is charged with ozone to keep out bacteria.  As
per Silver Puppy instructions, I heat it in the microwave and then let
it cool to drive off the dissolved gases.

On 05/13/2016 12:31 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
> Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it?
> Also, contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor? 
> Just a couple of thoughts.
> PT
>

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  http://interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886



Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-13 Thread PT Ferrance
Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it?Also, 
contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor?  
Just a couple of thoughts.PT



  From: Jean Baugh 
 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:10 PM
 Subject: CS>Distilled water
   
Hi,
I found out the store within 35 miles round trip was actually named Dollar 
General and their distilled water is by Clover Valley.
Bought one gallon and when I got home, sniffed the opened bottle.  There was 
just a hint of offensive odor but it wasn’t overt, all but undetectable, so 
started a new batch of colloidal silver.  The SilverGen worked fine with this 
new distilled water.
Thanks!
Jean
**

  

CS>Distilled water

2016-05-13 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

I found out the store within 35 miles round trip was actually named Dollar
General and their distilled water is by Clover Valley.

Bought one gallon and when I got home, sniffed the opened bottle.  There was
just a hint of offensive odor but it wasn¹t overt, all but undetectable, so
started a new batch of colloidal silver.  The SilverGen worked fine with
this new distilled water.

Thanks!

Jean

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Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread cassidy
We need to test the water... all distilled water is not good.  I had bad 
silver a few times and it was the distilled water.


On 5/11/2016 9:14 PM, Jerry Durand wrote:
Most of the distilled water in stores is now made by the same company, 
it also owns several of the bottled water companies. Choice is 
something from the past. 



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Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread Jerry Durand
Most of the distilled water in stores is now made by the same company, 
it also owns several of the bottled water companies. Choice is something 
from the past.


On 05/11/2016 07:03 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi,

Thank you so much for the information.  We actually do have a Dollar Store
within driving distance.  All it has to do is pass the smell test and I
will report back on this.

Never would have thought about this store having distilled water.

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CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

Thank you so much for the information.  We actually do have a Dollar Store
within driving distance.  All it has to do is pass the smell test and I
will report back on this.

Never would have thought about this store having distilled water.

Jean


>
>On 5/11/2016 6:51 PM, maj.yo...@ellijay.com wrote:
>> the Œdollar store¹ here has the lowest ppm tested of all the ones I
>> tested,,$1.00 a gal...
>
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Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread cassidy
I found Sprouts to have good distilled water.  used to be Walgreens, but 
Sprouts is better.  will ck out dollar store .. tks


On 5/11/2016 6:51 PM, maj.yo...@ellijay.com wrote:
the ‘dollar store’ here has the lowest ppm tested of all the ones I 
tested,,$1.00 a gal... 



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Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread maj.young
the ‘dollar store’ here has the lowest ppm tested of all the ones I 
tested,,$1.00 a gal...


From: PT Ferrance
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water

That's what I did, Jean.
Do your research and be careful because there are a lot of scams in the 
distilling business.  I wanted a glass pitcher and a stainless steel pot. 
Another important thing is the ease with which you can take the fan apart 
for cleaning.

Good luck
PT

Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.


From: Jean Baugh 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: CS>Distilled water


Hi,

I found all distilled water is not the same.  One business sold distilled 
water that wouldn’t work with the SilverGen.  Then I found Wal-Mart 
distilled water would work but it has a horrible perfume chemical smell to 
it.  Trem suggested Wal-Greens and it is fine.


However, it is a 130 mile round trip to buy this distilled water so I’m 
curious if anyone has any knowledge about a distilled water machine that 
costs around $200.00 (two hundred), by the name of Countertop Water 
Distiller.  The link is: 
http://www.waterdistillersdirect.com/countertop-water-distillers/


Thank you,

Jean



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Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread PT Ferrance
That's what I did, Jean.Do your research and be careful because there are a lot 
of scams in the distilling business.  I wanted a glass pitcher and a stainless 
steel pot.  Another important thing is the ease with which you can take the fan 
apart for cleaning.  
Good luck
PT Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.

  From: Jean Baugh 
 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: CS>Distilled water
   
Hi,
I found all distilled water is not the same.  One business sold distilled water 
that wouldn’t work with the SilverGen.  Then I found Wal-Mart distilled water 
would work but it has a horrible perfume chemical smell to it.  Trem suggested 
Wal-Greens and it is fine.
However, it is a 130 mile round trip to buy this distilled water so I’m curious 
if anyone has any knowledge about a distilled water machine that costs around 
$200.00 (two hundred), by the name of Countertop Water Distiller.  The link is: 
http://www.waterdistillersdirect.com/countertop-water-distillers/
Thank you,
Jean

  

Re: CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Jean I have owned and used one for the past twelve years and it is 
still going very well - have fun with yours if you decide to go ahead and get 
it - you could do much much worse !!!
Peace, love and hugs
Sandee🐬
An Attitude of Gratitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops & Topical Gel
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On 11 May 2016, at 3:47 pm, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,

I found all distilled water is not the same.  One business sold distilled water 
that wouldn’t work with the SilverGen.  Then I found Wal-Mart distilled water 
would work but it has a horrible perfume chemical smell to it.  Trem suggested 
Wal-Greens and it is fine.

However, it is a 130 mile round trip to buy this distilled water so I’m curious 
if anyone has any knowledge about a distilled water machine that costs around 
$200.00 (two hundred), by the name of Countertop Water Distiller.  The link is: 
http://www.waterdistillersdirect.com/countertop-water-distillers/

Thank you,

Jean


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CS>Distilled water

2016-05-11 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi,

I found all distilled water is not the same.  One business sold distilled
water that wouldn¹t work with the SilverGen.  Then I found Wal-Mart
distilled water would work but it has a horrible perfume chemical smell to
it.  Trem suggested Wal-Greens and it is fine.

However, it is a 130 mile round trip to buy this distilled water so I¹m
curious if anyone has any knowledge about a distilled water machine that
costs around $200.00 (two hundred), by the name of Countertop Water
Distiller.  The link is:
http://www.waterdistillersdirect.com/countertop-water-distillers/

Thank you,

Jean




Re: CS>Distilled water in UK

2014-09-07 Thread Dee
Too expensive Odedee

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> 
> Brits use "DI water" from the chemist shop.
> 
> ode
> 
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> 
>> On 9/6/2014 4:17 PM, Simran Arora wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I want to buy a CS generator and looking for a good supplier for distilled 
>> water. Is there anyone from the UK who can recommend a supplier please. 
>> Should I rather buy a water distiller, again any recommended brands for 
>> water distiller please.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Simran.
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Re: CS>Distilled water in UK

2014-09-07 Thread Ode Coyote

Brits use "DI water" from the chemist shop.

ode



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Hi,

I want to buy a CS generator and looking for a good supplier for 
distilled water. Is there anyone from the UK who can recommend a 
supplier please. Should I rather buy a water distiller, again any 
recommended brands for water distiller please.


Thanks
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Re: CS>Distilled water in UK

2014-09-07 Thread Dee
Distilled Water Supplies looks good but I've never used it I have to say.  I 
bought an OdeV distiller which has been excellent.dee

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> 
> I want to buy a CS generator and looking for a good supplier for distilled 
> water. Is there anyone from the UK who can recommend a supplier please. 
> Should I rather buy a water distiller, again any recommended brands for water 
> distiller please.
> 
> Thanks
> Simran.
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CS>Distilled water in UK

2014-09-06 Thread Simran Arora
Hi,

I want to buy a CS generator and looking for a good supplier for distilled
water. Is there anyone from the UK who can recommend a supplier please.
Should I rather buy a water distiller, again any recommended brands for
water distiller please.

Thanks
Simran.


Re: CS>Distilled water in the U.K.?

2011-01-23 Thread Ode Coyote



  I think they sell distilled water for batteries at auto parts stores, 
labeled "Not for human consumption"..only because it hasn't been Ozonated 
[sterilized] like all distilled water is in the USA and Canada.

But if making CS with it doesn't sterilize it, what's the point?

Ode



At 10:13 AM 1/23/2011 +1030, you wrote:

Does anyone know about the availability of distilled, demineralised
or reverse osmosis water in the UK? Seems some people are paying
crazy prices for water from pharmacies.

I have people asking me about this, but I'm in Australia.

David


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CS>Distilled water in the U.K.?

2011-01-22 Thread Alchemysa
Does anyone know about the availability of distilled, demineralised  
or reverse osmosis water in the UK? Seems some people are paying  
crazy prices for water from pharmacies.


I have people asking me about this, but I'm in Australia.

David


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Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-21 Thread Smitty
My nephew had a similar problem. He took Tagamet
for several years. finally got so sick he went to see a
doc. They removed his gall bladder . . .
Wala  !  No more problem.
You might try a gall bladded flush.

Smitty



On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Alan Jones  wrote:

> Do you have low stomach acid?  Have you ever tried Betaine Hcl?
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:22 PM,  wrote:
>
>>
>>  Food will stay in my stomach for three days or more. I also have Gout
>> and my DR would say you are drinking again. I heard that fruit will turn
>> into alcohol in your stomach if it isn't digested. A late supper and  I am
>> in trouble digesting the food before bedtime. I need 5 hours after eating
>> for food to clear out of my stomach. After dinner I tend to watch TV and not
>> exercise to help clear out the food.
>>
>
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Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-21 Thread Alan Jones
Do you have low stomach acid?  Have you ever tried Betaine Hcl?

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:22 PM,  wrote:

>
>  Food will stay in my stomach for three days or more. I also have Gout and
> my DR would say you are drinking again. I heard that fruit will turn into
> alcohol in your stomach if it isn't digested. A late supper and  I am in
> trouble digesting the food before bedtime. I need 5 hours after eating for
> food to clear out of my stomach. After dinner I tend to watch TV and not
> exercise to help clear out the food.
>


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Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Brickey.  That's very interesting.  So it sounds like you're addressing the 
issue all day long (until five hours before bed) -- and getting good results.  
You're the second person that uses probiotics as part of your treatment plan.  
It makes sense that disgestion would be aided by that.

Thanks for sharing all of this information with me.
MA





From: "brick...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 10:22:25 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

In a message dated 12/19/2010 4:13:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
I usually don't go to bed until 11:30, so the stomach should be clear -- but 
the 
issues frequently begin as soon as I lay down
Food will stay in my stomach for three days or more. I also have Gout and my DR 
would say you are drinking again. I heard that fruit will turn into alcohol in 
your stomach if it isn't digested. A late supper and  I am in trouble digesting 
the food before bedtime. I need 5 hours after eating for food to clear out of 
my 
stomach. After dinner I tend to watch TV and not exercise to help clear out the 
food.

When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from staying in 
your stomach?
I take them at breakfast usually I put them in with my coffee. They act like 
fiber, Metamucil, but I think even better. Try it and I am sure you will be 
surprised with the amount of your next bowel movement.

When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you do that 
before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on the issue?
I said I wouldn't even drink water after 8 PM, EIS is the exception. A jigger 
of 
EIS does not seem to upset my stomach like even water does.
 I also take my ground up cabbage pro biotic each morning. I grind a head of 
cabbage and let it set for 72 hours in the garage then drain the liquid and 
take 
two tablespoons also in my coffee per day. I also add some liposomal C to my 
coffee.
Brickey 

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Wow!  Well that sounds easy enough -- and I have all the *ingredients* right 
here in the house.  Thank you Bruce -- I appreciate it.
MA





From: Bruce Anderson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 8:35:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

Hi, MA:
I use an about(abt) measurement;>).
abt one Tablespoon each of honey and apple cider vinegar in abt 8ozs. of water.
The honey dissolves quicker if the water is heated, like hot tea.  But I prefer 
to stir longer and use refrigerator cold water.  Tap water can be used but I 
like bottled spring water.
I drink mine a few minutes before bed, but if I need it, anytime.  After some 
months, I only drink it when I feel I need it.  I use to take 20mg. of 
Omeprazole twice a day.  Now I'm free to eat anything I want without fear of 
reflux.
I hope it works as well for you.
Bruce A.

On 12/20/2010 9:04 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
Hi Bruce.  Tell me more please -- how much honey and how much and what kind of 
vinegar in how much water?  When do you drink it?  Before meals?  Every meal?  
Details -- I need details!!!  :-D   Thanks very much.
>MA
>
>
>
>

From: Bruce Anderson 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 8:13:03 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>
>Ever try honey & vinegar in water?  It got rid of my GURD and acid reflux.
>Bruce A.
>
>On 12/19/2010 7:13 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
>Oh boy.  :-(
>>
>>Well -- I'm not a big sweet eater, so that's no problem.  If I stopped eating 
>>after 5:30, I'd never have dinner again -- we don't have dinner until 
>>7:00-8:00 
>>at night.  However, I usually don't go to bed until 11:30, so the stomach 
>>should 
>>be clear -- but the issues frequently begin as soon as I lay down.
>>
>>When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from staying in 
>>your stomach?
>>
>>When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you do that 
>>before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on the issue?
>>
>>Thanks for answering my questions.
>>MA
>>
>>
>>
>>

From: "brick...@aol.com" 
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 4:48:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>>
>>In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
>>marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
>>what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them too -- 
>>but 
>>frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
>>I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after about 5:30 
>>and 
>>quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to bed  everything is 
>>digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole flax seeds so food will not 
>>stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec I found what foods cause problems, 
>>most 
>>of the foods which I crave. I found I can try some at lunch where they have 
>>time 
>>to be digested before bed. I brush my teeth with EIS and swallow.
>>Brickey

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread Brickeyk
 
In a message dated 12/19/2010 4:13:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:

I  usually don't go to bed until 11:30, so the stomach should be clear --  
but the issues frequently begin as soon as I lay down


Food will stay in my stomach for three days or more. I also have Gout and  
my DR would say you are drinking again. I heard that fruit will turn into  
alcohol in your stomach if it isn't digested. A late supper and  I am in  
trouble digesting the food before bedtime. I need 5 hours after eating for food 
 to clear out of my stomach. After dinner I tend to watch TV and not  
exercise to help clear out the food.
 
 
When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from  staying 
in your stomach?
I take them at breakfast usually I put them in with my coffee. They act  
like fiber, Metamucil, but I think even better. Try it and I am sure you will 
be  surprised with the amount of your next bowel movement.
 
When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you do  
that before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on the  issue?
I said I wouldn't even drink water after 8 PM, EIS is the exception. A  
jigger of EIS does not seem to upset my stomach like even water does.
 I also take my ground up cabbage pro biotic each morning. I  grind a head 
of cabbage and let it set for 72 hours in the garage then drain the  liquid 
and take two tablespoons also in my coffee per day. I also add some  
liposomal C to my coffee.
Brickey 


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread Bruce Anderson

Hi, MA:
I use an about(abt) measurement;>).
abt one Tablespoon each of honey and apple cider vinegar in abt 8ozs. of 
water.
The honey dissolves quicker if the water is heated, like hot tea.  But I 
prefer to stir longer and use refrigerator cold water.  Tap water can be 
used but I like bottled spring water.
I drink mine a few minutes before bed, but if I need it, anytime.  After 
some months, I only drink it when I feel I need it.  I use to take 20mg. 
of Omeprazole twice a day.  Now I'm free to eat anything I want without 
fear of reflux.

I hope it works as well for you.
Bruce A.

On 12/20/2010 9:04 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Bruce.  Tell me more please -- how much honey and how much and what 
kind of vinegar in how much water?  When do you drink it?  Before 
meals?  Every meal?  Details -- I need details!!!  :-D   Thanks very much.

MA


*From:* Bruce Anderson 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 8:13:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

Ever try honey & vinegar in water?  It got rid of my GURD and acid reflux.
Bruce A.

On 12/19/2010 7:13 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Oh boy.  :-(
Well -- I'm not a big sweet eater, so that's no problem.  If I 
stopped eating after 5:30, I'd never have dinner again -- we don't 
have dinner until 7:00-8:00 at night.  However, I usually don't go to 
bed until 11:30, so the stomach _should_ be clear -- but the issues 
frequently begin as soon as I lay down.
When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from 
staying in your stomach?
When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you 
do that before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on 
the issue?

Thanks for answering my questions.
MA


*From:* "brick...@aol.com" 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 4:48:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap 
Water?!


In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:


what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of
them too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(

I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after 
about 5:30 and quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to 
bed  everything is digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole 
flax seeds so food will not stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec 
I found what foods cause problems, most of the foods which I crave. I 
found I can try some at lunch where they have time to be digested 
before bed. I brush my teeth with EIS and swallow.

Brickey


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Great -- thanks very much.  I'll order some and give it a try -- and I'll let 
ya 
know how this works out.
MA





From: Gene Wolfe 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 3:00:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

I take them at mealtime.

On 12/20/2010 9:15 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
Hi Gene.  Thank you for that -- I'll give this a try.  Do you have to take them 
an hour or so ahead of eating, or just at mealtime?
>MA
>
>
>
>

From: Gene Wolfe 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 7:31:20 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>
>I take NSI Probiotic 15-35 from Vitacost.com.
>
>Gene
>
>On 12/19/2010 5:58 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
>Seriously?  Can you tell me what brand you use?  Thanks Gene.
>>MA
>>
>>
>>
>>

From: Gene Wolfe 
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 10:41:05 AM
>>Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>>
>>MA, I take 2 Probiotic caps with each meal, and it has made a huge difference 
>>in 
>>my digestion. I have had heart burn for years, and it is gone.
>>
>>Gene
>>
>>On 12/19/2010 8:48 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
>>Brickey -- what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of 
>>them 
>>too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
>>>MA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

From: "brick...@aol.com" brick...@aol.com
>>>
>>>I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying anything 
>>>from 
>>>him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since college days, late 
>>>1950's. 
>>>Brickey  

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread Gene Wolfe

I take them at mealtime.

On 12/20/2010 9:15 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Hi Gene.  Thank you for that -- I'll give this a try.  Do you have to 
take them an hour or so ahead of eating, or just at mealtime?

MA


*From:* Gene Wolfe 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 7:31:20 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

I take NSI Probiotic 15-35 from Vitacost.com <http://vitacost.com/>.

Gene

On 12/19/2010 5:58 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Seriously?  Can you tell me what brand you use?  Thanks Gene.
MA


*From:* Gene Wolfe 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 10:41:05 AM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap 
Water?!


MA, I take 2 Probiotic caps with each meal, and it has made a huge 
difference in my digestion. I have had heart burn for years, and it 
is gone.


Gene

On 12/19/2010 8:48 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Brickey -- what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm 
off of them too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(

MA


*From:* "brick...@aol.com" brick...@aol.com <mailto:brick...@aol.com>

I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying 
anything from him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since 
college days, late 1950's.

Brickey


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread Grace1way
John:
 
For many years I was treated for allergies through NAET (_www.naet.com_ 
(http://www.naet.com) ).  In addition to being treated  for thousands of 
allergies, as I was allergic to most everything I  breathed, touched, or ate 
(most 
people have no idea of the importance of  allergies, the illness that 
results from them, and varieties and numbers of  allergies they may have 
impacting their health), I was treated for many months  alone for my allergies 
to 
various water chemicals.  Many others attending  this same clinic had similar 
problems and tried to drink distilled water to  avoid the allergens in water 
chemicals.  According to the founders of NAET,  these people generally get 
sicker, do not heal from the problems they already  have, and are resistant 
to treatment.  This is the first-hand experience I  have on this issue.
 
Jill
 
 
In a message dated 12/19/2010 8:20:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jpetras...@yahoo.com writes:

I appreciate the feedback about Mercola.


With regard to my original question though, does anyone have any  
input/science regarding any danger with distilled water as Mercola  outlines 
it?...any veracity, do you think, to his article? Possibly in  large 
quantities, for 
someone using DW to hydrate and nothing much  else...but for our purposes, 
I kind of doubt it.


Have a happy, 
John  








--- On Sat, 12/18/10, j petras   wrote:


From:  j petras 
Subject: Distilled  WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 9:02  AM


I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.


I found the article of particular interest for those of us  who make our 
own CS from distilled water...from any  source.


A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not  indicate any VOCs or 
DBPs as the article states (which are  dangerous at PPB levels). But, then, 
we're not typically  swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.


Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 




http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-wate
r-interview.aspx







Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread Grace1way
My experience with Mercola has been pretty positive.  On his website I  can 
find around 70,000 articles on virtually any subject of alternative  
health.  This is a huge service he provides without charge.  With  respect to 
his 
hyping his own products to raid our wallets, his products are  generally at 
the low end of the cost continuum, AND, he often recommends the  products of 
other companies at the same time he offers those he sells.  I have found 
his products to be of very good quality, and better than  products I have 
bought instead (but googled to find the lowest price--for  instance the 
countertop convection oven).  Often I have read an article on  his free email 
newsletter program and decided to try the product recommended,  only to find 
that 
his company does not sell it!  Another service that has  been valuable is 
the unconditional refund.  I bought a gallon of coconut  oil maybe 5 years 
ago, but did not use it because I was allergic to it.  I  talked to someone 
with the phone number provided on the email newsletter, and  they said I could 
mail it back for a full refund (and just received $76.56  back).  Mercola is 
very knowledgeable, and consults with others who also  have much knowledge 
and good contacts.  I don't have the time, nor  inclination, to do all that 
footwork.
 
That said, one should be very wary of living one's life according to  
authority.  The reason most people are authority conscious is that it takes  a 
tremendous amount of time, effort, and responsibility to do otherwise.   It 
also takes a certain development to be able to catch oneself in the authority  
thought stream, since most everything in our brain library is of this 
authority  ilk.  Those of us, like Einstein, who have managed to observe this 
process  from a distance have gone very far with this discriminative ability, 
and have  made tremendous contributions to the rest of us by building thought 
systems (and  resultant actions) on a ground of actual experience.  
 
On  a more practical vein, humans have many health issues in common  (i.e. 
the structure and physiology of the human body), but we also are unique in  
many ways.  This last fact argues against "One Size Fits All" medicine, be  
it conventional or alternative.  We can read sources such as Mercola (and  
many others), do our own research, but ultimately, for me at least, it comes  
down to what my body tells me it wants and muscle testing (or pendulum 
dowsing)  for collaboration.  To see our body as solely physical, a separate  
entity--separate from emotions, beliefs, energy systems, and separate from our 
 surroundings, is to have a false picture of the body, and of its needs.   
Lately, although I know and have available what I "should" be eating--pure  
water, unprocessed foods, vegetables and fruit without pesticides, I seem to 
 require a quart of soda once a week, choose a hamburger and french fries 
on  weekends, and seem to crave a lot of sugar and carbohydrates.  If one 
cell  within a body were sick, we wouldn't treat it in isolation, because it is 
too  affected by the other cells to survive on its own.  Possibly the human 
body  is similar to this single cell, and is enclosed within, and dependent 
upon, a  much larger system for its well being...  I also find I eat less 
than half  the amount of food than I did last year, and need eat only once a 
day.
 
Jill
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/18/2010 6:15:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
chube...@yahoo.com writes:

My thoughts are to not read anything written by mercola.  He is a  big time 
hypster and everything he does is about scaring people into buying  only 
his products.  Every week is a new big revelation of junk you  absolutely must 
have in order to have a shot at good health.


Better is to read articles written by people who aren't trying to grab  the 
contents of your wallet.

On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:02 AM, j petras  <_jpetras...@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:jpetras...@yahoo.com) >  wrote:





I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.


I found the article of particular interest for those of us who  make our 
own CS from distilled water...from any source.


A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not  indicate any VOCs or 
DBPs as the article states (which are dangerous  at PPB levels). But, then, 
we're not typically swigging glassfulls of  CS a day either.


Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 




_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-wat
er-interview.aspx_ 
(http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-interview.aspx)
 



=


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Gene.  Thank you for that -- I'll give this a try.  Do you have to take them 
an hour or so ahead of eating, or just at mealtime?
MA





From: Gene Wolfe 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 7:31:20 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

I take NSI Probiotic 15-35 from Vitacost.com.

Gene

On 12/19/2010 5:58 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
Seriously?  Can you tell me what brand you use?  Thanks Gene.
>MA
>
>
>
>

From: Gene Wolfe 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 10:41:05 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>
>MA, I take 2 Probiotic caps with each meal, and it has made a huge difference 
>in 
>my digestion. I have had heart burn for years, and it is gone.
>
>Gene
>
>On 12/19/2010 8:48 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
>Brickey -- what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of 
>them 
>too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
>>MA
>>
>>
>>
>>

From: "brick...@aol.com" brick...@aol.com
>>
>>I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying anything 
>>from 
>>him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since college days, late 
>>1950's. 
>>Brickey  

RE: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread Ode Coyote



  Pure water is an excellent solvent.
 Membranes are intelligent and selective reverse osmosis filters that 
purify water as it goes in so it can carry impurities out.
If it DOESN'T dissolve minerals that have reacted with *whatever* and done 
their jobs, you are stuck with all those nasty used up minerals and no new 
ones will have room to get in...you have stopped a natural cycle.


 A solvent carries things BOTH ways.
Nature hates both a vacuum and a pressure.

It doesn't matter if the water you drink is distilled or not, your 
membranes will purify it as best they can so it [and associated mechanisms] 
can transport mineral nutrients from food also at that interface.if 
anything, a little help in that area won't hurt a thing.

There might be a little bit less crap in your crap is all.
If there are minerals in the input water as well as in the food, the best 
ones will be selected, as needed and the rest passed on.
 My bet, most of them will come from the food and in the absence of 
minerals in the water, All of them will come from the food.


Now, if your input is less than the output because you are starving, 
leeching may become a problem...but impure water input is still selectively 
purified by the membranes even if there's nothing there to carry in with it.


IOW  Your body isn't STUPID...it's quite well designed to adapt.
If this were not so, everybody who has a green or blue stain in the sink 
from a dripping faucet..wouldn't have a functioning nerve left in that body.


Ode


At 09:31 AM 12/20/2010 +1100, you wrote:
Not sure what you're all on about so I'll just butt in here with my two 
bobs worth, if I'm off track just hit the delete button.


I spoke with a water treatment bloke many moons ago about DW and EIS/CS 
that I make and ingest and he told me one can't drink DW as one would 
drink ordinary water...because it lacks minerals etc it will leach them 
from the body, eventually one will feel decidedly unwell.  Not a problem 
in what I do with DW, only if one drinks it as they would, or instead of, 
ordinary water.


Again, if this is not relevant to what you're all on about, then ignore it.

N.


--
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 08:19:57 -0800
From: jpetras...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

I appreciate the feedback about Mercola.

With regard to my original question though, does anyone have any 
input/science regarding any danger with distilled water as Mercola 
outlines it?...any veracity, do you think, to his article? Possibly in 
large quantities, for someone using DW to hydrate and nothing much 
else...but for our purposes, I kind of doubt it.


Have a happy,
John





--- On Sat, 12/18/10, j petras  wrote:

From: j petras 
Subject: Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 9:02 AM

I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.

I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our 
own CS from distilled water...from any source.


A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or 
DBPs as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then, 
we're not typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.


Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!!


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-interview.aspx




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Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Bruce.  Tell me more please -- how much honey and how much and what kind of 
vinegar in how much water?  When do you drink it?  Before meals?  Every meal?  
Details -- I need details!!!  :-D   Thanks very much.
MA





From: Bruce Anderson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 8:13:03 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

Ever try honey & vinegar in water?  It got rid of my GURD and acid reflux.
Bruce A.

On 12/19/2010 7:13 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
Oh boy.  :-(
>
>Well -- I'm not a big sweet eater, so that's no problem.  If I stopped eating 
>after 5:30, I'd never have dinner again -- we don't have dinner until 
>7:00-8:00 
>at night.  However, I usually don't go to bed until 11:30, so the stomach 
>should 
>be clear -- but the issues frequently begin as soon as I lay down.
>
>When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from staying in 
>your stomach?
>
>When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you do that 
>before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on the issue?
>
>Thanks for answering my questions.
>MA
>
>
>
>

From: "brick...@aol.com" 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 4:48:18 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>
>In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
>marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
>what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them too -- 
>but 
>frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
>I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after about 5:30 
>and 
>quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to bed  everything is 
>digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole flax seeds so food will not 
>stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec I found what foods cause problems, 
>most 
>of the foods which I crave. I found I can try some at lunch where they have 
>time 
>to be digested before bed. I brush my teeth with EIS and swallow.
>Brickey

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-20 Thread Rowena
Hulda Clark also warned that the water companies are obliged by law to 
sterilize their bottles with certain chemicals.  In the video, Mercola 
said that he adds a little Himalayan Salt to Reverse Osmosis water to 
return minerals. He also said that any water filter is better than no 
water filter.  He uses well water himself, but he does run it through a 
filter.

R


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RE: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Donna M. Lewis
That's what I've heard too.  However, if you add electrolyte tablets and
sodium to the DW you have the perfect water to drink.  That's what
Smartwater is I believe, without the sodium.

 

Donna

 

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

 

I haven't been following this thread but I was always taught that DW took
good things like minerals out of the system so it was not good to drink long
term on its own.

PT

 

  _  

From: j petras 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 11:19:57 AM
Subject: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!


I appreciate the feedback about Mercola.

 

With regard to my original question though, does anyone have any
input/science regarding any danger with distilled water as Mercola outlines
it?...any veracity, do you think, to his article? Possibly in large
quantities, for someone using DW to hydrate and nothing much else...but for
our purposes, I kind of doubt it.

 

Have a happy, 

John  

 

 

 



--- On Sat, 12/18/10, j petras  wrote:


From: j petras 
Subject: Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 9:02 AM


I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.

 

I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our own
CS from distilled water...from any source.

 

A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or
DBPs as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then,
we're not typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.

 

Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 

 

 

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-wate
r-interview.aspx

 



Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Bruce Anderson

Ever try honey & vinegar in water?  It got rid of my GURD and acid reflux.
Bruce A.

On 12/19/2010 7:13 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Oh boy.  :-(
Well -- I'm not a big sweet eater, so that's no problem.  If I stopped 
eating after 5:30, I'd never have dinner again -- we don't have dinner 
until 7:00-8:00 at night.  However, I usually don't go to bed until 
11:30, so the stomach _should_ be clear -- but the issues frequently 
begin as soon as I lay down.
When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from 
staying in your stomach?
When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you 
do that before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on 
the issue?

Thanks for answering my questions.
MA


*From:* "brick...@aol.com" 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 4:48:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:


what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of
them too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(

I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after about 
5:30 and quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to bed  
everything is digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole flax 
seeds so food will not stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec I 
found what foods cause problems, most of the foods which I crave. I 
found I can try some at lunch where they have time to be digested 
before bed. I brush my teeth with EIS and swallow.

Brickey


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Gene Wolfe

I take NSI Probiotic 15-35 from Vitacost.com.

Gene

On 12/19/2010 5:58 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Seriously?  Can you tell me what brand you use?  Thanks Gene.
MA


*From:* Gene Wolfe 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 10:41:05 AM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

MA, I take 2 Probiotic caps with each meal, and it has made a huge 
difference in my digestion. I have had heart burn for years, and it is 
gone.


Gene

On 12/19/2010 8:48 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Brickey -- what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm 
off of them too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(

MA


*From:* "brick...@aol.com" brick...@aol.com <mailto:brick...@aol.com>

I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying 
anything from him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since 
college days, late 1950's.

Brickey


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Jaxi.  I'd really like to avoid that -- my husband wouldn't appreciate it, 
I'm sure -- plus I don't sleep very well unless I'm laying pretty flat.  I 
can't 
even use a *tall* pillow.
MA





From: jaxi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 6:40:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

Have you considered raising the head of your bed?  


On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:13 PM, MaryAnn Helland  
wrote:

Oh boy.  :-(
>
>Well -- I'm not a big sweet eater, so that's no problem.  If I stopped eating 
>after 5:30, I'd never have dinner again -- we don't have dinner until 
>7:00-8:00 
>at night.  However, I usually don't go to bed until 11:30, so the stomach 
>should 
>be clear -- but the issues frequently begin as soon as I lay down.
>
>When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from staying in 
>your stomach?
>
>When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you do that 
>before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on the issue?
>
>Thanks for answering my questions.
>MA
>
>
>
>
____
From: "brick...@aol.com" 
>
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 4:48:18 PM 
>
>Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>
>In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
>marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
>what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them too -- 
>but 
>frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
>I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after about 5:30 
>and 
>quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to bed  everything is 
>digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole flax seeds so food will not 
>stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec I found what foods cause problems, 
>most 
>of the foods which I crave. I found I can try some at lunch where they have 
>time 
>to be digested before bed. I brush my teeth with EIS and swallow.
>Brickey


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread jaxi
Have you considered raising the head of your bed?

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:13 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

> Oh boy.  :-(
>
> Well -- I'm not a big sweet eater, so that's no problem.  If I stopped
> eating after 5:30, I'd never have dinner again -- we don't have dinner until
> 7:00-8:00 at night.  However, I usually don't go to bed until 11:30, so the
> stomach *should* be clear -- but the issues frequently begin as soon as I
> lay down.
>
> When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from staying
> in your stomach?
>
> When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you do
> that before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on the issue?
>
> Thanks for answering my questions.
> MA
>
>  --
> *From:* "brick...@aol.com" 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 4:48:18 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>
>  In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
>
> what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them too --
> but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
>
>  I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after about
> 5:30 and quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to bed
> everything is digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole flax seeds so
> food will not stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec I found what foods
> cause problems, most of the foods which I crave. I found I can try some at
> lunch where they have time to be digested before bed. I brush my teeth with
> EIS and swallow.
> Brickey
>


Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Oh boy.  :-(

Well -- I'm not a big sweet eater, so that's no problem.  If I stopped eating 
after 5:30, I'd never have dinner again -- we don't have dinner until 7:00-8:00 
at night.  However, I usually don't go to bed until 11:30, so the stomach 
should 
be clear -- but the issues frequently begin as soon as I lay down.

When do you take the whole flax seeds?  How do they stop food from staying in 
your stomach?

When you say that you brush your teeth with EIS and swallow -- do you do that 
before going to bed?  Do you think this has some bearing on the issue?

Thanks for answering my questions.
MA





From: "brick...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 4:48:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them too -- but 
frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after about 5:30 and 
quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to bed  everything is 
digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole flax seeds so food will not 
stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec I found what foods cause problems, 
most 
of the foods which I crave. I found I can try some at lunch where they have 
time 
to be digested before bed. I brush my teeth with EIS and swallow.
Brickey

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Seriously?  Can you tell me what brand you use?  Thanks Gene.
MA





From: Gene Wolfe 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 10:41:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

MA, I take 2 Probiotic caps with each meal, and it has made a huge difference 
in 
my digestion. I have had heart burn for years, and it is gone.

Gene

On 12/19/2010 8:48 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: 
Brickey -- what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them 
too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
>MA
>
>
>
>

From: "brick...@aol.com" brick...@aol.com
>
>I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying anything 
>from 
>him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since college days, late 1950's. 
>Brickey  

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Gayla Roberts
I started on raw apple and it works well. Celery is another anti GERD food. My 
best is raw cabbage. I eat a wedge out of hand like an apple. Even if I am 
"bad" and have a dessert after dinner, cabbage will nullify the nasties.
HTH
Gayla
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gene Wolfe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!


  MA, I take 2 Probiotic caps with each meal, and it has made a huge difference 
in my digestion. I have had heart burn for years, and it is gone.

  Gene



Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Brickeyk
 
In a message dated 12/19/2010 6:49:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:

what  are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them too 
--  but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(


I limit sweets as they seem to cause heartburn stop eating after about 5:30 
 and quit drinking even water after 8 PM. So when I go to bed   everything 
is digested. I also take 2 1/2 tablespoons of whole flax seeds so  food will 
not stay in my stomach. When I quit Prilosec I found what foods cause  
problems, most of the foods which I crave. I found I can try some at lunch 
where 
 they have time to be digested before bed. I brush my teeth with EIS and  
swallow.
Brickey


RE: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Neville Munn

Not sure what you're all on about so I'll just butt in here with my two bobs 
worth, if I'm off track just hit the delete button.
 
I spoke with a water treatment bloke many moons ago about DW and EIS/CS that I 
make and ingest and he told me one can't drink DW as one would drink ordinary 
water...because it lacks minerals etc it will leach them from the body, 
eventually one will feel decidedly unwell.  Not a problem in what I do with DW, 
only if one drinks it as they would, or instead of, ordinary water.
 
Again, if this is not relevant to what you're all on about, then ignore it.
 
N.
 


Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 08:19:57 -0800
From: jpetras...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!






I appreciate the feedback about Mercola.


With regard to my original question though, does anyone have any input/science 
regarding any danger with distilled water as Mercola outlines it?...any 
veracity, do you think, to his article? Possibly in large quantities, for 
someone using DW to hydrate and nothing much else...but for our purposes, I 
kind of doubt it.


Have a happy, 
John  







--- On Sat, 12/18/10, j petras  wrote:


From: j petras 
Subject: Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 9:02 AM







I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.


I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our own CS 
from distilled water...from any source.


A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or DBPs 
as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then, we're not 
typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.


Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 




http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-interview.aspx

  

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread PT Ferrance
I haven't been following this thread but I was always taught that DW took good 
things like minerals out of the system so it was not good to drink long term on 
its own.
PT





From: j petras 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 11:19:57 AM
Subject: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!


I appreciate the feedback about Mercola.

With regard to my original question though, does anyone have any input/science 
regarding any danger with distilled water as Mercola outlines it?...any 
veracity, do you think, to his article? Possibly in large quantities, for 
someone using DW to hydrate and nothing much else...but for our purposes, I 
kind 
of doubt it.

Have a happy, 
John  




--- On Sat, 12/18/10, j petras  wrote:


>From: j petras 
>Subject: Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 9:02 AM
>
>
>I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.
>
>
>I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our own CS 
>from distilled water...from any source.
>
>
>A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or 
>DBPs 
>as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then, we're 
>not 
>typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.
>
>
>Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 
>
>
>
>
>http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-interview.aspx
> 
> 


Re: Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Renee
I have a PC and have never gotten spammed from his site.  And I've been
going there for years.  Have even bought a few things.  Yep, his style has
changed, but he noted a few years ago, that he was trying to market more to
raise more money to spread education about alternative health.  He even
named the marketer he was using.  This is that marketer's style--as 'fear'
mongering actually entices more people to read articles than a calm headline
  Sad, but true.  

If you've been on alternative health sites and lists for very long, you can
almost tell by the headline whether it's worth reading or not--as Mercola
isn't actually saying anything strikingly new--most of this info is out
there, being reported--though different headlines--at the same time and
sometimes even earlier.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
I have a Mac and this doesn't seem to happen.  dee
 
On 18 Dec 2010, at 22:51, PT Ferrance wrote:
 

CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread j petras
ode
Outstanding...a well structured and appropriate lyrical response - a CS 
communicator for our times...in my opinion, in the thin mercury silver style of 
a Dylan.
thanks-John


  

RE: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread starshar
Ode, you have outdone yourself with this piece. I finally picked myself
up off the floor and am tempted to send it to every 'health' publication
in the world!

Made my day!

Sharon/starshar

> -Original Message-
> From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:05 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap
Water?!
> 
> 
> 
>Swing wild enough and you'll hit something now and then.
> Think a bit and you can catch that line drive hiding in all those
fouls
> that you dropped.
> 
> What is caught in left field doesn't apply to those in right field
with
> empty mitts, but a catch is a catch.
> 
> One mans toxin is another mans cure.
> If I can't enjoy a coated with carcinogens  burnt animal on a bun with
some
> Sulfuric Acid producing Onions now and then, what's the point ?
>   Fat free? I'll take a double order and thank you for the sale at
> McDoodles drive by Lube n' Scoot. [A lead belly burger a day keeps the
> other 5 meals away]
> 
>Don't drink that [Natures Distilled] rain water until it's been
tumbled
> over every element there is for at least a few weeks.
> The food you eat has no minerals to replace those your body
eliminated.
> Old minerals are better than new ones, better not lose any.
>   Your body is a complete helpless idiot with a data base and process
> control developed over thousands of centuries and you have to out
think it
> every moment ...or you'll die.
> If you do, you won't...right?
> 
> VOCs  "Second hand smoke kills" even in some public park out doors,
but
> driving to the Air Nazi meeting, your car emits thousands of times
more
> VOCs than a smoker will in his entire life.
> Keep that stuff out of the water, never mind that the air is loaded
with
> em...you can always stop breathing.
> 
> One glass of tomato juice produces 50 times the methanol as a can of
Diet
> Coke...but Diet Coke is deadly.
> Belly up to the juice bar, boys.
> Got stuck with a straight 9 when I coulda had a V 3 !!
> Have a Red Beer on me. [tastes a LOT better than Diet Coke and
rum,
> added to make up the methanol difference]
> 
>My coal miner Grandad ate eggs, bacon and bacon fat fried potatoes
with
> grease soaked toasted white bread every day for 85 years and chain
smoked
> non filtereds from the age of 9 ...and it was the *eat only sticks and
bark
> guy* that had a heart attack.
> Go figger.
> 
> 20 years ago Pop said that his Dads last 5 years weren't much fun
> So, my Dad does every kick that comes along and he's now 84...he might
live
> to be 94 or even 104, might not.
> Will his last 10 years be any more fun than his Dads last 5?
> 
>   Now Pop says, "Son, don't get old, it's no fun a'tall "
> ..I'll go with what happens and be very glad to not die too old.
> 
> I figger
> "Shot by looters while chasin hooters" will do just fine.
> ..and feed my body to the pigs and chickens, bacon and eggs is divine.
> Once in the morning and I don't want supper.
> ..and if I eat a "Whopper and fries", I'm not hungry again for almost
2 days.
> If I'm thirsty, wet will do.
> I NEED salt.  A porcupine will eat the handle off your shovel to get
> some..they don't have Mortons in a shaker.
> The ocean has Mercury and Lead in it, so what?  Nothing else
> does?  Certainly not "Sea Salt"
> So you think you CAN stay away from Aluminum?
> 
> Diet Coke doesn't need help from *Tomato Juicer Health Nazis* to taste
like
> crap.
> Rum and real Coke, a much better source of methanol than Aspertame,
along
> with some useful Glucose...and some Phosphoric Acid to cut the rust
out of
> your belly button. [Naval Jelly]
> You need Phosphorus to assimilate Calcium, and fruit sugar turns into
> Glucose anyhow.
> 
> So now I have a sweet bony rust free belly button.  Abs of stainless
steel
> with corn syrup.
> 
> Use only 4 nines Silver to make CS.
> Then make some Colloidal Copper as though you COULD avoid Copper.
> A pre 1965 circulation coin is 90% Silver and 10% Copperwhy NOT
use
> those for electrodes?
> 
> Refiners use electrolysis to purify metals.
> It's how they make 4 nines Silver, 4 nines.
>   At under around 24 volts, the Copper will stay on the coin.  If it
> doesn't?  So what?
> 
> 5 micrograms of Mercury in a Vaccine causes Autism, but taking a
Mercury
> spewing diesel bus or a Mercury loaded coal fired power plant charged
> electric car  to the air conditioned doctors office with Tuna Fish
> sandwiches for lunch, doesn't.
> 
> You catch 

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Gene Wolfe
MA, I take 2 Probiotic caps with each meal, and it has made a huge 
difference in my digestion. I have had heart burn for years, and it is gone.


Gene

On 12/19/2010 8:48 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
Brickey -- what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm 
off of them too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(

MA


*From:* "brick...@aol.com" brick...@aol.com 

I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying 
anything from him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since 
college days, late 1950's.

Brickey


Re: Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have a Mac and this doesn't seem to happen.  dee

On 18 Dec 2010, at 22:51, PT Ferrance wrote:

> After visiting his website about 2 weeks ago I have been spammed intensely so 
> you might want to be careful.
> PT
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Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread Ode Coyote



  Swing wild enough and you'll hit something now and then.
Think a bit and you can catch that line drive hiding in all those fouls 
that you dropped.


What is caught in left field doesn't apply to those in right field with 
empty mitts, but a catch is a catch.


One mans toxin is another mans cure.
If I can't enjoy a coated with carcinogens  burnt animal on a bun with some 
Sulfuric Acid producing Onions now and then, what's the point ?
 Fat free? I'll take a double order and thank you for the sale at 
McDoodles drive by Lube n' Scoot. [A lead belly burger a day keeps the 
other 5 meals away]


  Don't drink that [Natures Distilled] rain water until it's been tumbled 
over every element there is for at least a few weeks.

The food you eat has no minerals to replace those your body eliminated.
Old minerals are better than new ones, better not lose any.
 Your body is a complete helpless idiot with a data base and process 
control developed over thousands of centuries and you have to out think it 
every moment ...or you'll die.

If you do, you won't...right?

VOCs  "Second hand smoke kills" even in some public park out doors, but 
driving to the Air Nazi meeting, your car emits thousands of times more 
VOCs than a smoker will in his entire life.
Keep that stuff out of the water, never mind that the air is loaded with 
em...you can always stop breathing.


One glass of tomato juice produces 50 times the methanol as a can of Diet 
Coke...but Diet Coke is deadly.

Belly up to the juice bar, boys.
Got stuck with a straight 9 when I coulda had a V 3 !!
Have a Red Beer on me. [tastes a LOT better than Diet Coke and rum, 
added to make up the methanol difference]


  My coal miner Grandad ate eggs, bacon and bacon fat fried potatoes with 
grease soaked toasted white bread every day for 85 years and chain smoked 
non filtereds from the age of 9 ...and it was the *eat only sticks and bark 
guy* that had a heart attack.

Go figger.

20 years ago Pop said that his Dads last 5 years weren't much fun
So, my Dad does every kick that comes along and he's now 84...he might live 
to be 94 or even 104, might not.

Will his last 10 years be any more fun than his Dads last 5?

 Now Pop says, "Son, don't get old, it's no fun a'tall "
..I'll go with what happens and be very glad to not die too old.

I figger
"Shot by looters while chasin hooters" will do just fine.
..and feed my body to the pigs and chickens, bacon and eggs is divine.
Once in the morning and I don't want supper.
..and if I eat a "Whopper and fries", I'm not hungry again for almost 2 days.
If I'm thirsty, wet will do.
I NEED salt.  A porcupine will eat the handle off your shovel to get 
some..they don't have Mortons in a shaker.
The ocean has Mercury and Lead in it, so what?  Nothing else 
does?  Certainly not "Sea Salt"

So you think you CAN stay away from Aluminum?

Diet Coke doesn't need help from *Tomato Juicer Health Nazis* to taste like 
crap.
Rum and real Coke, a much better source of methanol than Aspertame, along 
with some useful Glucose...and some Phosphoric Acid to cut the rust out of 
your belly button. [Naval Jelly]
You need Phosphorus to assimilate Calcium, and fruit sugar turns into 
Glucose anyhow.


So now I have a sweet bony rust free belly button.  Abs of stainless steel 
with corn syrup.


Use only 4 nines Silver to make CS.
Then make some Colloidal Copper as though you COULD avoid Copper.
A pre 1965 circulation coin is 90% Silver and 10% Copperwhy NOT use 
those for electrodes?


Refiners use electrolysis to purify metals.
It's how they make 4 nines Silver, 4 nines.
 At under around 24 volts, the Copper will stay on the coin.  If it 
doesn't?  So what?


5 micrograms of Mercury in a Vaccine causes Autism, but taking a Mercury 
spewing diesel bus or a Mercury loaded coal fired power plant charged 
electric car  to the air conditioned doctors office with Tuna Fish 
sandwiches for lunch, doesn't.


You catch and keep what works for you and drop what doesn't.
Mercola just throws balls around like every other "ex-spurt"

 Professors, profess to know something.
Doctors "practice" medicine.
..and over time, it all changes back to what it was and then to something 
else as a everybody runs around in circles seeking home base...so they can 
"stop" ?

 Game over.

 I get a little dizzy, myself...start wandering away from the worry, as 
though, I might actually be "in charge" ...of anything.
I can't think of a single thing that does the SAME thing, to OR for 
everyone.


Could it be that sanity is merely the realization that there ain't any such 
a thing?


Ode


At 02:27 PM 12/18/2010 +, you wrote:
Im afraid I dont agree at all.  It was Mercola who first pointed me in the 
right direction as far as health is concerned and it wasnt for any 
financial gain at all as he didnt sell anything then.  He still recommends 
other peoples products as well as his own too.  I dont blame him for 
making a living from selling good supplements a

CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread j petras
I appreciate the feedback about Mercola.
With regard to my original question though, does anyone have any input/science 
regarding any danger with distilled water as Mercola outlines it?...any 
veracity, do you think, to his article? Possibly in large quantities, for 
someone using DW to hydrate and nothing much else...but for our purposes, I 
kind of doubt it.
Have a happy, John  




--- On Sat, 12/18/10, j petras  wrote:

From: j petras 
Subject: Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 9:02 AM

I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.
I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our own CS 
from distilled water...from any source.
A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or DBPs 
as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then, we're not 
typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.
Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-interview.aspx


  


  

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Brickey -- what are you doing instead of using those products?  I'm off of them 
too -- but frequently I'm miserable.  :-(
MA





From: "brick...@aol.com" brick...@aol.com

I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying anything from 
him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since college days, late 1950's. 
Brickey  

Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread Brickeyk
 
In a message dated 12/18/2010 6:28:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
d...@deetroy.org writes:

I’m  afraid I don’t agree at all.  It was Mercola who first pointed me in 
the  right direction as far as health is concerned and it wasn’t for any 
financial  gain at all as he didn’t sell anything  then


I got off Prilosec, Nexium doing what Mercola said without buying anything  
from him. I was on Hiatal Hernia, GERD medications since college  days, 
late 1950's. I also use his Peak 8 stationary bike exercise to  try to Rehab my 
knee replacement. If nothing else it makes me rotate the knee  joint. I 
understand that he is trying to make a buck, but don't hold that  against him.
Brickey  


Re: Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread Jane MacRoss
I'm very fortunate - I have both a delete button and a Mercola folder - not 
sure how many emails I get from him - it's all good info & I don't really mind 
at all :))
  - Original Message - 
  From: PT Ferrance 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM
  Subject: Re: Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than 
Municipal Tap Water?!


  After visiting his website about 2 weeks ago I have been spammed intensely so 
you might want to be careful.
  PT




--
  From: Jane MacRoss 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sat, December 18, 2010 5:16:25 PM
  Subject: Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal 
Tap Water?!

  Dr Mercola fills a great need for a heap of people - I order products from 
him - price is OK & sometimes he doesn't charge for postage which is a bonus 
living in Australia.

  Jane

  - Original Message - From: "David AuBuchon" 
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:13 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!


  I think Dr. Mercola does a marvelous job.  Nobody is perfect, but we
  need people like him.  I think he well researches everything.  He
  sells his own products, but I really believe he would recommend them,
  even if they increased someone ELSES sales.

  ~David

  On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
  > I’m afraid I don’t agree at all. It was Mercola who first pointed me in the
  > right direction as far as health is concerned and it wasn’t for any
  > financial gain at all as he didn’t sell anything then. He still recommends
  > other peoples products as well as his own too. I don’t blame him for making
  > a living from selling good supplements at all and the information he gives
  > is worth a great deal. He has also been in trouble many times with the
  > establishment as well re things like his stance on vaccines etc., they have
  > often tried to close his site to prevent him telling people about the drug
  > companies. dee
  > 
  > 
  > On 18/12/2010 14:11, "Steve"  wrote:
  > 
  > My thoughts are to not read anything written by mercola. He is a big time
  > hypster and everything he does is about scaring people into buying only his
  > products. Every week is a new big revelation of junk you absolutely must
  > have in order to have a shot at good health.
  > 
  > Better is to read articles written by people who aren't trying to grab the
  > contents of your wallet.
  > 
  > On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:02 AM, j petras  wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 


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Re: Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread PT Ferrance
After visiting his website about 2 weeks ago I have been spammed intensely so 
you might want to be careful.
PT





From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, December 18, 2010 5:16:25 PM
Subject: Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap 
Water?!

Dr Mercola fills a great need for a heap of people - I order products from him 
- 
price is OK & sometimes he doesn't charge for postage which is a bonus living 
in 
Australia.

Jane

- Original Message - From: "David AuBuchon" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!


I think Dr. Mercola does a marvelous job.  Nobody is perfect, but we
need people like him.  I think he well researches everything.  He
sells his own products, but I really believe he would recommend them,
even if they increased someone ELSES sales.

~David

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> I’m afraid I don’t agree at all. It was Mercola who first pointed me in the
> right direction as far as health is concerned and it wasn’t for any
> financial gain at all as he didn’t sell anything then. He still recommends
> other peoples products as well as his own too. I don’t blame him for making
> a living from selling good supplements at all and the information he gives
> is worth a great deal. He has also been in trouble many times with the
> establishment as well re things like his stance on vaccines etc., they have
> often tried to close his site to prevent him telling people about the drug
> companies. dee
> 
> 
> On 18/12/2010 14:11, "Steve"  wrote:
> 
> My thoughts are to not read anything written by mercola. He is a big time
> hypster and everything he does is about scaring people into buying only his
> products. Every week is a new big revelation of junk you absolutely must
> have in order to have a shot at good health.
> 
> Better is to read articles written by people who aren't trying to grab the
> contents of your wallet.
> 
> On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:02 AM, j petras  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Mercola was // Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread Jane MacRoss
Dr Mercola fills a great need for a heap of people - I order products from 
him - price is OK & sometimes he doesn't charge for postage which is a bonus 
living in Australia.


Jane

- Original Message - 
From: "David AuBuchon" 

To: 
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Subject: Re: CS>Distilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!


I think Dr. Mercola does a marvelous job.  Nobody is perfect, but we
need people like him.  I think he well researches everything.  He
sells his own products, but I really believe he would recommend them,
even if they increased someone ELSES sales.

~David

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
wrote:
I’m afraid I don’t agree at all. It was Mercola who first pointed me in 
the

right direction as far as health is concerned and it wasn’t for any
financial gain at all as he didn’t sell anything then. He still recommends
other peoples products as well as his own too. I don’t blame him for 
making

a living from selling good supplements at all and the information he gives
is worth a great deal. He has also been in trouble many times with the
establishment as well re things like his stance on vaccines etc., they 
have

often tried to close his site to prevent him telling people about the drug
companies. dee


On 18/12/2010 14:11, "Steve"  wrote:

My thoughts are to not read anything written by mercola. He is a big time
hypster and everything he does is about scaring people into buying only 
his

products. Every week is a new big revelation of junk you absolutely must
have in order to have a shot at good health.

Better is to read articles written by people who aren't trying to grab the
contents of your wallet.

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Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread David AuBuchon
I think Dr. Mercola does a marvelous job.  Nobody is perfect, but we
need people like him.  I think he well researches everything.  He
sells his own products, but I really believe he would recommend them,
even if they increased someone ELSES sales.

~David

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> I’m afraid I don’t agree at all.  It was Mercola who first pointed me in the
> right direction as far as health is concerned and it wasn’t for any
> financial gain at all as he didn’t sell anything then.  He still recommends
> other peoples products as well as his own too.  I don’t blame him for making
> a living from selling good supplements at all and the information he gives
> is worth a great deal.  He has also been in trouble many times with the
> establishment as well re things like his stance on vaccines etc., they have
> often tried to close his site to prevent him telling people about the drug
> companies.  dee
>
>
> On 18/12/2010 14:11, "Steve"  wrote:
>
> My thoughts are to not read anything written by mercola.  He is a big time
> hypster and everything he does is about scaring people into buying only his
> products.  Every week is a new big revelation of junk you absolutely must
> have in order to have a shot at good health.
>
> Better is to read articles written by people who aren't trying to grab the
> contents of your wallet.
>
> On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:02 AM, j petras  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I read this too but I think it means if you only drunk distilled water which
makes sense to me.  dee


On 18/12/2010 14:02, "j petras"  wrote:

> I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.
> 
> I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our own CS
> from distilled water...from any source.
> 
> A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or
> DBPs as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then,
> we're not typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.
> 
> Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!!
> 
> 
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-
> interview.aspx
> 
> 



Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I¹m afraid I don¹t agree at all.  It was Mercola who first pointed me in the
right direction as far as health is concerned and it wasn¹t for any
financial gain at all as he didn¹t sell anything then.  He still recommends
other peoples products as well as his own too.  I don¹t blame him for making
a living from selling good supplements at all and the information he gives
is worth a great deal.  He has also been in trouble many times with the
establishment as well re things like his stance on vaccines etc., they have
often tried to close his site to prevent him telling people about the drug
companies.  dee


On 18/12/2010 14:11, "Steve"  wrote:

> My thoughts are to not read anything written by mercola.  He is a big time
> hypster and everything he does is about scaring people into buying only his
> products.  Every week is a new big revelation of junk you absolutely must have
> in order to have a shot at good health.
> 
> Better is to read articles written by people who aren't trying to grab the
> contents of your wallet.
> 
> On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:02 AM, j petras  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 



Re: CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread Steve
My thoughts are to not read anything written by mercola.  He is a big time 
hypster and everything he does is about scaring people into buying only his 
products.  Every week is a new big revelation of junk you absolutely must have 
in order to have a shot at good health.

Better is to read articles written by people who aren't trying to grab the 
contents of your wallet.

On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:02 AM, j petras  wrote:

> I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.
> 
> I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our own 
> CS from distilled water...from any source.
> 
> A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or 
> DBPs as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then, 
> we're not typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.
> 
> Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 
> 
> 
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-interview.aspx
> 


CS>Distilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!

2010-12-18 Thread j petras
I'm forwarding this provocative article for feedback.
I found the article of particular interest for those of us who make our own CS 
from distilled water...from any source.
A total dissolved PM reading, on a  PPM scale may not indicate any VOCs or DBPs 
as the article states (which are dangerous at PPB levels). But, then, we're not 
typically swigging glassfulls of CS a day either.
Any thoughts? thanks, and have a happy!! 

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/18/distilled-water-interview.aspx


  

RE: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-03 Thread Neville Munn

Ah Hah!  NOW I begin to understand the world of atoms and molecules a little 
more betterer .

 

I was under the impression that 'motion' in this context was a reference to 
'velocity', and this is why I thought that due to the 'velocity' of ion or 
molecule movement, combined with the 'G' forces required for penetration of 
that barrier, there would be some 'major' event {at an atomic scale of course, 
and only a 'flash' moment in time} occurring upon impact.

 

Thank you for that simplisitic explanation.

 

N.
 
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:34:33 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> 
> On 10/2/2010 9:01 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
> > Thanks very much for that Marshall, much appreciated.
> >
> > On re-reading my comments I did notice two oversights on my part, I 
> > forgot about the accuracy % factor in meters, and I overlooked the 
> > stupidly simple uS and TDS equivalent or conversion, sorry about 
> > that. My constant oversights of the simple and obvious are quite 
> > frustrating at times.
> >
> > A final comment if you will, as your closing comment was significant 
> > to a thought which has been rattling around in my head for some 
> > time...endothermics.
> >
> > I've considered for some time that the action of ions colliding in an 
> > aqueous solution must generate some form of energy as they break 
> > through that energy barrier or Nernst or double layer surrounding the 
> > ion, and the result of those impacts could only generate one form of 
> > energy...heat. It would not be the actual impact of those ions or 
> > particles necessarily which generates energy as positive and negative 
> > simply attract as a natural law of unlike poles attracting, but rather 
> > it would be the friction created via the *breaking through of that 
> > energy barrier* which surrounds the ion. Would that assumption be 
> > correct?
> >
> In the molecular and atomic world motion and heat are different ways of 
> expressing the same thing. So if you consider something forcing its way 
> through the energy barrier, that takes energy to do so, and the result 
> is a drop in velocity, in some cases to near 0, and a LOSS of heat. That 
> is it would tend to be endothermic.. It would take energy to penetrate 
> the barrier, and the kinetic energy of the particle or molecule would 
> have been converted to potential energy when it does so. Only kinetic 
> energy shows up as heat thus thus this would result in a loss of themal 
> energy..
> 
> Marshall
> 
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Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-03 Thread Marshall Dudley

 On 10/2/2010 9:01 PM, Neville Munn wrote:

Thanks very much for that Marshall, much appreciated.

On re-reading my comments I did notice two oversights on my part, I 
forgot about the accuracy % factor in meters, and I overlooked the 
stupidly simple uS and TDS equivalent or conversion, sorry about 
that.  My constant oversights of the simple and obvious are quite 
frustrating at times.


A final comment if you will, as your closing comment was significant 
to a thought which has been rattling around in my head for some 
time...endothermics.


I've considered for some time that the action of ions colliding in an 
aqueous solution must generate some form of energy as they break 
through that energy barrier or Nernst or double layer surrounding the 
ion, and the result of those impacts could only generate one form of 
energy...heat.  It would not be the actual impact of those ions or 
particles necessarily which generates energy as positive and negative 
simply attract as a natural law of unlike poles attracting, but rather 
it would be the friction created via the *breaking through of that 
energy barrier* which surrounds the ion.  Would that assumption be 
correct?


In the molecular and atomic world motion and heat are different ways of 
expressing the same thing.  So if you consider something forcing its way 
through the energy barrier, that takes energy to do so, and the result 
is a drop in velocity, in some cases to near 0, and a LOSS of heat. That 
is it would tend to be endothermic..  It would take energy to penetrate 
the barrier, and the kinetic energy of the particle or molecule would 
have been converted to potential energy when it does so. Only kinetic 
energy shows up as heat thus thus this would result in a loss of themal 
energy..


Marshall


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RE: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-02 Thread Neville Munn

Thanks very much for that Marshall, much appreciated.

 

On re-reading my comments I did notice two oversights on my part, I forgot 
about the accuracy % factor in meters, and I overlooked the stupidly simple uS 
and TDS equivalent or conversion, sorry about that.  My constant oversights of 
the simple and obvious are quite frustrating at times.

 

A final comment if you will, as your closing comment was significant to a 
thought which has been rattling around in my head for some time...endothermics.

 

I've considered for some time that the action of ions colliding in an aqueous 
solution must generate some form of energy as they break through that energy 
barrier or Nernst or double layer surrounding the ion, and the result of those 
impacts could only generate one form of energy...heat.  It would not be the 
actual impact of those ions or particles necessarily which generates energy as 
positive and negative simply attract as a natural law of unlike poles 
attracting, but rather it would be the friction created via the *breaking 
through of that energy barrier* which surrounds the ion.  Would that assumption 
be correct?

 

N.

 

 
> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 13:11:00 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> 
> On 10/2/2010 2:57 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
> > Oh, I think I see. I would have thought that if one meter which has 
> > resolution increments of '.1' shows a reading *higher* than '1.', then 
> > the meter which reads in increments of 1 would display 1 instead of 
> > 000 when the first meter registers higher than 1 initially?
> That is true generally. But when you add in accuracy it might still give 
> a zero, if for instance it has an accuracy of .5 and thinks the water is 
> reading .4 because it is off .5 on the accuracy.
> > If that's your "...water which is 0.4..." thing then I'll have to do 
> > some reading up.
> >
> > Example: My records show the Com100uS reading has to exceed 2.6 
> > before the ComTDS3 reading moves from 000 to 001ppm
> That makes sense. 2.6 on uS will be equivalent to 1.3 on the TDS, and 
> if the accuracy is no better than .3, than that is quite possible.
> > .
> >
> > As most meters are set up or calibrated taking a water temperature 
> > compensating factor into account, would this also have a bearing on 
> > the apparant different readings from one manufacturers meter to another? 
> It can, that would reflect in the accuracy or precision/repeatability.
> > Meaning, not only the calibration fluid used, but also the built in 
> > temperature compensation may have an influence on the reading of a uS 
> > meter compared to a ppm or TDS meter as stated above?
> Yes, the calibration fluid and water being tested need to be at the same 
> temperature.
> >
> > Example: My records show the ComTDS3 *always* shows a higher water 
> > temperature of DW straight from the bottle anywhere between 
> > 1 to 1.8 degrees compared to the Com100uS meter, is the aforesaid an 
> > explanation for that?
> A constant offset should not be that significant in being a problem as 
> long as both are calibrated and used at the same temperature.
> >
> > Curiously, after EIS/CS production that temperature difference in the 
> > majority of cases seems to reduce after the solution has been in 
> > storage for a while, like down to 1 degree or lower, I find it rather 
> > strange that it doesn't remain the same difference as it was straight 
> > from the bottle.
> It is quite possible that aggregation is endothermic (in fact if you 
> have two particles colliding that stick together, then you will have 
> less kinetic motion, and thus possibly a reduction in temperature).
> 
> Marshall
> >
  

Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-02 Thread Marshall Dudley

 On 10/2/2010 2:57 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
Oh, I think I see.  I would have thought that if one meter which has 
resolution increments of '.1' shows a reading *higher* than '1.', then 
the meter which reads in increments of 1 would display 1 instead of 
000 when the first meter registers higher than 1 initially?
That is true generally. But when you add in accuracy it might still give 
a zero, if for instance it has an accuracy of .5 and thinks the water is 
reading .4 because it is off .5 on the accuracy.
  If that's your "...water which is 0.4..." thing then I'll have to do 
some reading up.


Example:  My records show the Com100uS reading has to exceed 2.6 
before the ComTDS3 reading moves from 000 to 001ppm
That makes sense.  2.6 on uS will be equivalent to 1.3 on the TDS, and 
if the accuracy is no better than .3, than that is quite possible.

.

As most meters are set up or calibrated taking a water temperature 
compensating factor into account, would this also have a bearing on 
the apparant different readings from one manufacturers meter to another? 

It can, that would reflect in the accuracy or precision/repeatability.
Meaning, not only the calibration fluid used, but also the built in 
temperature compensation may have an influence on the reading of a uS 
meter compared to a ppm or TDS meter as stated above?
Yes, the calibration fluid and water being tested need to be at the same 
temperature.


Example:  My records show the ComTDS3 *always* shows a higher water 
temperature of DW straight from the bottle anywhere between 
1 to 1.8 degrees compared to the Com100uS meter, is the aforesaid an 
explanation for that?
A constant offset should not be that significant in being a problem as 
long as both are calibrated and used at the same temperature.


Curiously, after EIS/CS production that temperature difference in the 
majority of cases seems to reduce after the solution has been in 
storage for a while, like down to 1 degree or lower, I find it rather 
strange that it doesn't remain the same difference as it was straight 
from the bottle.
It is quite possible that aggregation is endothermic (in fact if you 
have two particles colliding that stick together, then you will have 
less kinetic motion, and thus possibly a reduction in temperature).


Marshall


N.

> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:14:28 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
>
> On 10/1/2010 9:16 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
> > OK.
> >
> > Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but
> > here are some figures if they are of any value.
> With some of these one could certainly get 0, since they lack the
> resolution to measure less than 1. For water which is 0.4 of what they
> are measuring they would measure:
> > ..
> >
> > Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS
> > #I don't use the tds function.
> 0.4
> >
> > Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)
> 0
> >
> > Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm
> 0.
>
> That is why it is so important to know what the resolution is when 
water

> is highly non conductive. I do my measurement with a meter that has a
> resolution of .1 uS, and thus have never seen 0. If I were to use one
> of the other meters I would see 0 all the time, but they would not
> really be 0, just lower than the resolution of the instrument.
>
> Marshall
> >



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RE: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-01 Thread Neville Munn

Oh, I think I see.  I would have thought that if one meter which has resolution 
increments of '.1' shows a reading *higher* than '1.', then the meter which 
reads in increments of 1 would display 1 instead of 000 when the first meter 
registers higher than 1 initially?  If that's your "...water which is 0.4..." 
thing then I'll have to do some reading up.

 

Example:  My records show the Com100uS reading has to exceed 2.6 before the 
ComTDS3 reading moves from 000 to 001ppm.

 

As most meters are set up or calibrated taking a water temperature compensating 
factor into account, would this also have a bearing on the apparant different 
readings from one manufacturers meter to another?  Meaning, not only the 
calibration fluid used, but also the built in temperature compensation may have 
an influence on the reading of a uS meter compared to a ppm or TDS meter as 
stated above?

 

Example:  My records show the ComTDS3 *always* shows a higher water temperature 
of DW straight from the bottle anywhere between 1 to 1.8 degrees compared to 
the Com100uS meter, is the aforesaid an explanation for that?

 

Curiously, after EIS/CS production that temperature difference in the majority 
of cases seems to reduce after the solution has been in storage for a while, 
like down to 1 degree or lower, I find it rather strange that it doesn't remain 
the same difference as it was straight from the bottle.

 

N.
 
> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:14:28 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> 
> On 10/1/2010 9:16 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
> > OK.
> >
> > Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but 
> > here are some figures if they are of any value.
> With some of these one could certainly get 0, since they lack the 
> resolution to measure less than 1. For water which is 0.4 of what they 
> are measuring they would measure:
> > ..
> >
> > Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS
> > #I don't use the tds function.
> 0.4
> >
> > Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)
> 0
> >
> > Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm
> 0.
> 
> That is why it is so important to know what the resolution is when water 
> is highly non conductive. I do my measurement with a meter that has a 
> resolution of .1 uS, and thus have never seen 0. If I were to use one 
> of the other meters I would see 0 all the time, but they would not 
> really be 0, just lower than the resolution of the instrument.
> 
> Marshall
> >
  

Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-01 Thread Marshall Dudley

 On 10/1/2010 9:16 PM, Neville Munn wrote:

OK.

Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but 
here are some figures if they are of any value.
With some of these one could certainly get 0, since they lack the 
resolution to measure less than 1.  For water which is 0.4 of what they 
are measuring they would measure:

..

Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS
#I don't use the tds function.

0.4


Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)

0


Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm

0.

That is why it is so important to know what the resolution is when water 
is highly non conductive.  I do my measurement with a meter that has a 
resolution of .1 uS, and thus have never seen 0.  If I were to use one 
of the other meters I would see 0 all the time, but they would not 
really be 0, just lower than the resolution of the instrument.


Marshall


I haven't written down the accuracy % for each as that's irrelevant to 
me in my kitchen as opposed to laboratory controlled temperature 
environment.


N.

> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:09:59 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
>
> Those number don't mean anything to me without researching each of
> them. What is important is the resolution of each. If the resolution is
> 100 uS for instance than anything less than 50, and maybe less than 100
> will register 0. Since the expected readings should be between .2 and 3
> or so, the meter must be able to measure and display such readings.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 10/1/2010 6:37 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
> > I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never*
> > shown zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle*
> > of DW I've ever bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd*
> > occasion. I use El Cheapo Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I
> > think it's now called.
> >
> > N.
> >
> > > From: oha...@juno.com
> > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> > > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400
> > >
> > > Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which
> > > tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this
> > > distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,
> > > and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces
> > > it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You
> > > would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a
> > > whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
> > > operationally !
> > > Take good care
> > > Regards
> > > Sandee
> > >
> > >
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RE: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-01 Thread Neville Munn

OK.

 

Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but here are 
some figures if they are of any value...

 

Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS

#I don't use the tds function.

 

Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)

 

Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm

 

I haven't written down the accuracy % for each as that's irrelevant to me in my 
kitchen as opposed to laboratory controlled temperature environment.

 

N.
 
> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:09:59 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> 
> Those number don't mean anything to me without researching each of 
> them. What is important is the resolution of each. If the resolution is 
> 100 uS for instance than anything less than 50, and maybe less than 100 
> will register 0. Since the expected readings should be between .2 and 3 
> or so, the meter must be able to measure and display such readings.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> On 10/1/2010 6:37 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
> > I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never* 
> > shown zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle* 
> > of DW I've ever bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd* 
> > occasion. I use El Cheapo Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I 
> > think it's now called.
> >
> > N.
> >
> > > From: oha...@juno.com
> > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> > > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400
> > >
> > > Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which
> > > tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this
> > > distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,
> > > and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces
> > > it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You
> > > would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a
> > > whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
> > > operationally !
> > > Take good care
> > > Regards
> > > Sandee
> > >
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Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
 Those number don't mean anything to me without researching each of 
them. What is important is the resolution of each.  If the resolution is 
100 uS for instance than anything less than 50, and maybe less than 100 
will register 0.  Since the expected readings should be between .2 and 3 
or so, the meter must be able to measure and display such readings.


Marshall

On 10/1/2010 6:37 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never* 
shown zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle* 
of DW I've ever bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd* 
occasion.  I use El Cheapo Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I 
think it's now called.


N.

> From: oha...@juno.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400
>
> Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which
> tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this
> distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,
> and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces
> it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You
> would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a
> whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
> operationally !
> Take good care
> Regards
> Sandee
>
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RE: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-01 Thread Neville Munn

I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never* shown 
zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle* of DW I've ever 
bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd* occasion.  I use El Cheapo 
Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I think it's now called.

 

N.
 
> From: oha...@juno.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000
> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400
> 
> Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which 
> tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this 
> distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems, 
> and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces 
> it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You 
> would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a 
> whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
> operationally !
> Take good care
> Regards
> Sandee
> 
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Re: CS> Distilled Water of .000

2010-10-01 Thread Sandee George
Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which  
tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this  
distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,  
and for the Kidney Foundation.I went to the factory which produces  
it and you should see the machinery they have for making same.   You  
would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a  
whistle and smooth as a babies bottom

operationally !
Take good care
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CS>Distilled water question Ode

2010-06-02 Thread ZZekelink
In a message dated 6/1/2010 10:11:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
odecoy...@windstream.net writes:

If it  looks like something you'd use...use it.
If it looks odd, use it with some  caution or toss it.
If that happens twice in a row, change something. [or  call it a discovery 
and see if you can do it three times  ]

Ode
Doggone ode---I just luv your  reasoningLois


Re: CS>Distilled water question

2010-06-01 Thread Ode Coyote



  CS is "Colloidal Silver"  specifically on this list "EIS" or 
electrically isolated silver in water.


The purpose and function of CS...to kill virtually any bacterium or virus 
known to mankind in a non toxic manner...and the list,  to make and use it 
yourself on the cheap and easy in the often satisfied hope of being 
independent of the medical establishment, or doing something that actually 
works when, or after,  that system doesn't.


Plan A, Plan B and Plan A+B...just might equal C... for controlled or even 
"cured", when nothing else worked or wasn't even tried because it did.
Just because you have an armory full of silver bullets, doesn't always mean 
the aim is good or Werewolves are doomed for extinction...but even if you 
just get a few, the armory is worth having.

..and a very inexpensive line of relatively probable defense at that.
Whereas..
What you DON'T try has NO chance of success.

Ode



At 09:22 AM 5/29/2010 -0400, you wrote:
Help!!!  I'm getting all these emails from something that begins with CS, 
and I haven't a clue what it is.  They are all about health in some 
fashion.  Can you tel me what kind of list I have become a part of?  Thank 
you.  Lee


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Deborah Gerard 
<devorah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 
4.  Could the water be bad?

Thanks in advance,
Debbie



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Re: CS>Distilled water question

2010-06-01 Thread Ode Coyote



 What a batch looks like has much to do with "what" is in the water, no 
two jugs are the same and there's no way to tell what *what* is by a number 
on a meter.


If it looks like something you'd use...use it.
If it looks odd, use it with some caution or toss it.
If that happens twice in a row, change something. [or call it a discovery 
and see if you can do it three times ]


Ode

At 06:18 AM 5/29/2010 -0700, you wrote:
I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 
4.  Could the water be bad?

Thanks in advance,
Debbie



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Re: CS>Distilled water question

2010-05-29 Thread Norton, Steve
Welcome to the silver list. The post you responded to is a colloidal silver 
(CS) issue. A TDS meter helps estimate the purity of water used in making CS or 
the strength of a CS solution in parts per million (ppm). 
The silver list is dedicated to CS but other health related subjects are 
allowed when silver related posts are slow. Sometimes we get too carried away 
on a non CS subject and it is requested to move to the off topic list. If you 
have a CS question please step in and ask it anytime. 
IMO there seems to be a broad overlap of CS use and an understanding of 
treating many ailments. In some ailments CS helps where you would not expect it 
to or it needs to be used as part of a larger protocol. 
This is just my opinion but it appears to me that many have explored CS as a 
last resort after conventional medicine and other alternative medicines have 
failed to help them. That is why I came to it. Because of their efforts prior 
to using CS there are many on the silver list with knowledge and interest in 
health issues beyond CS. While not all subjects will interest you I hope you 
will find silver list membership interesting and beneficial. 

- Steve N



From: Lee Dorosz  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sat May 29 08:22:53 2010
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water question 


Help!!!  I'm getting all these emails from something that begins with CS, and I 
haven't a clue what it is.  They are all about health in some fashion.  Can you 
tel me what kind of list I have become a part of?  Thank you.  Lee


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:


I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 4.  
Could the water be bad?
Thanks in advance,
Debbie





Re: CS>Distilled water question

2010-05-29 Thread MaryAnn Helland
CS is Colloidal Silver.  You have joined an internet chat group that discusses 
the use of CS for various health issues.  In order to receive these messages, 
you have to have intentionally joined the list.  Or someone in your household 
did.
Mary Ann





From: Lee Dorosz 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 8:22:53 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water question

Help!!!  I'm getting all these emails from something that begins with CS, and I 
haven't a clue what it is.  They are all about health in some fashion.  Can you 
tel me what kind of list I have become a part of?  Thank you.  Lee


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 4.  
Could the water be bad?
>Thanks in advance,
>Debbie
>


Re: CS>Distilled water question

2010-05-29 Thread Lee Dorosz
Help!!!  I'm getting all these emails from something that begins with CS,
and I haven't a clue what it is.  They are all about health in some
fashion.  Can you tel me what kind of list I have become a part of?  Thank
you.  Lee

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

> I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never
> happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up
> 4.  Could the water be bad?
> Thanks in advance,
> Debbie
>
>


CS>Distilled water question

2010-05-29 Thread Deborah Gerard
I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 4.  
Could the water be bad?
Thanks in advance,
Debbie


  

CS>Distilled Water??

2010-04-17 Thread Tel Tofflemire
A small amount of Distilled water will not hurt you, but it will not provide 
all the nutrients found in well water including trace minerals.  We all need 
Minerals and there is a soil I read about in Utah they sell for the minerals, 
used for livestock, gardens crops, and some people swear by it. Its called 
(Nano Azomite) One of my customers from back east said her son had Spasms , 
Ticks , & Epilepsy type seizures, all of his life and started taking small 
amounts of this stuff and has not had on since. He is now in his 40's.  We all 
know our bodies need different Elements & Minerals to be at peek condition, but 
we forget about sometimes. (You can google Nano Azomite) I am not selling mine.
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 11:22:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - again

Dee,
I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, 
and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable 
for those uses.
sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when 
> making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but 
> if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I noticed on the 
> H202 site it just mentions water.  dee
> 
>  


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Re: CS>distilled water

2009-12-05 Thread cking001
That's what I use.
Been satisfied for decades.
Chuck
This mind intentionally left blank 


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> Hello, my friend just bought a ' Silvergen' to make her own CS, but we
> were wondering if the 'distilled water' from WalMart is okay to use? Thanks
> for all the wonderful info, I love this site and read all the posts.  Kathy


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Re: CS>distilled water

2009-12-05 Thread Norton, Steve
That is what I use. It is good to use. 
- Steve



From: Kathy Tankersley  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sat Dec 05 17:13:45 2009
Subject: CS>distilled water 


Hello, my friend just bought a ' Silvergen' to make her own CS, but we were 
wondering if the 'distilled water' from WalMart is okay to use?  Thanks for all 
the wonderful info, I love this site and read all the posts.   Kathy


CS>distilled water

2009-12-05 Thread Kathy Tankersley
Hello, my friend just bought a ' Silvergen' to make her own CS, but we were 
wondering if the 'distilled water' from WalMart is okay to use?  Thanks for all 
the wonderful info, I love this site and read all the posts.   Kathy

CS>Distilled water is good for you

2009-06-17 Thread Norton, Steve


> The issue of the safety of drinking distilled water came up once and I
> really don't have a position on the subject except that I know it is
> not harmful. I ran across the  following that says that drinking
> distilled water is good for you. 
>  - Steve N
> 
> 
> Is Distilled Water Healthy?
> by Suzanne M. Skinner, Ph.D.
> Dear Dr. Skinner:
> Our church group has been having beated argurments over what type of
> water is safe to drink. I have been drinking distilled water for over
> two years, and I am now getting scared I may be doing myself great
> harm. Some say distilled water is the only health water. Others say
> distilled water is not only devoid of the minerals our bodies need,
> but that it leaches out the minerals that are already in our body. Who
> is right? What shall I do?
> You are correct. Distilled water is the purest we can drink as it
> contains only hydrogen and oxygen. Of course, we must include fresh
> raw fruit and vegetable juices everyday, as they are loaded with
> organic mineral elements the only kind our body can use.
> "Natural water" contains inorganic inactive minerals that are
> incompatible with our body and cause great harm over time. Natural
> water is lifeless, gross and incompatible with our cells, and does not
> contain enzymes ( the essence of life).
> A lifetime accumulation of inorganic calcium (found in natural water)
> clogs our veins and arteries, which can result in coronary thrombosis,
> arterial occlusion (obstruction of the blood vessels), aterosclerosis.
> Many times this results in a fatal heart attack.
> Natural water comes from springs, wells, lakes, rivers and faucets.
> Its inorganic mineral elements have been collected by contact with
> rocks, earth and soil.
> This unhealthy water goes from the esophagus to the stomach, to the
> small intestine, and then is either transported to the liver for
> distribution into the system, or if unable to disintegrated (because
> of inorganic minerals), is passed into the colon. (Liquids pass
> through blood vessels in the small intestine's walls). Whatever is in
> colloidal form (a stateof very fine suspended particles), goes along
> with the liquid into the liver. Now the liver begins to clog with
> minute inorganic minerals such as calcium (limestone) and magnesium
> Our bodies are composed of the same minerals, but they are in an
> organic form, not an inorgamc form. The minerals that our bodies need
> for replenishment, regeneration and survival, must come to us through
> raw vegetables and fruit, fresh juices, nuts and seeds. We can only
> use, assimilate, digest and absorb minerals in their organic form.
> With fresh, raw vegetables and fruit juices, the
> plant's roots go deep into the soil and pick up the inorganic minerals
> and change them to usable organic minerals for us.
> With natural water, however, our cells are called upon to reject the
> debris cells from it's inherent inorganic minerals. The kidneys and
> orher secreting organs attempt to throw off all this accumulated
> debris, however, a large part stays in our bodies, contributing to
> rigidity, ossification, so-called "old age" stiffness and early death.
> Distilled water leaches out the unusable inorganic limestone, rock
> residue, etc. It acts like a magnet, to pick up discarded cells,
> rejected minerals and debris. With the help of the blood and lymph
> system this waste is then carried to the kidneys for elimination from
> our body. The only water the blood and Iymph can actually use is pure
> distilled water, or fresh fruit and vegetable juices.
> There is a belief that distilled water leaches out minerals from the
> body. This is not true. It only collects and removes inorganic
> minerals that have already been refused and rejected by the cells.
> More than twenty years ago, Norman Walker, D.Sc., suggested an
> experiment everyone can do at home. Before you start, do a urine
> inspection to see how clear it is. Then use only distilled water for
> three weeks (make sure you cook with distilled water also). At the end
> of this time period, you will be astonished with the amount of
> sediment and debris found in your urine.*
> Filtering tap water is useless-- it only removes what is floating or
> mixed with the water-the smaller matter remains in solution. And of
> course, I need not mention the abundance of poisonous, cancer-causing
> material added to the water to"protect" us from harmful bacteria and
> germs. Pesticides and metals in the water compound the problem.
> I will now not drink from a $5,000 water system I had installed years
> ago, before I knew better.
> Spring water looks clear and transparent, however, it is loaded with
> sold inorganic minerals- not to mention parasitic. Bottled mountain
> spring water is loaded with chemicals to make it taste good and look
> clear. Bottled drinking. water is water from a tap sold to unknowing,
> unsuspecting people.
> * Note:
> No liquid or water can "leach" organic minerals out, o

Re: CS>Distilled water

2009-03-25 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
Some things *do* sink in Sol  !  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: sol
Date: 24/03/2009 22:00:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water
 
Tee Hee, I replied to Frank's post before I saw yours, Dee. You know me
well,
LOL,
sol
 
Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:
> I think Sol only drinks distilled water.  Dee
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