Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Actually, the web tools, web servers are one of Linux's strengths. Google is the largest network of Linux computers in the world. Servers, Internet are Linux domains. The desktop is currently its (perceived) weakness. The reality is completely different (ie Linux is great on the desktop: how many systems can have over 100 web pages open at once, still perform reasonably well, not ever crash.) I really abhor working on that other OS at work! regards Doug On Tuesday 13 June 2006 4:24, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Mike Weaver I know OSX is UNIX, but it took Apple four or five years after release for the tweaking to produce a really good OS. And I still don't use OSX, though I'm being forced in that direction, but who needs an entire software upgrade/replacement? I'll install OSX in the end and mostly run OS9 with it, for a long time to come I expect. From what I've seen of such things I wouldn't be too happy about entrusting the JtF site to a GoLive that's been tweaked for Linux, or not until it was as solid as say Mailman. Anyway, the original argument falls away, if OSX is UNIX anyway, then why use Linux? That human face is of a grown-up, not a kid, and whether it's UNIX or OS9 it saves me a a large amount of non-negotiable time. Either way I'd still have this current graphics conversion problem. Best Keith Actually, Mac OSX is really just UNIX, in the form of tweaked FreeBSD. All the Adobe stuff would run on Linux as well as they run on OSX, but Adobe (I suspect due the the not so gentle prodding of MS and perhaps Apple) has chosen not too release Linux versions. Anyting that runs on OSX would run on Linux with very little work, probably just a recompile... OSX is *nix with a human face Keith Addison wrote: Wotcha Weaver Linux. I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much better that it's worth the move. Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. : this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Nemetschek which makes Vectorworks has a free viewer for engineering drawings you can view and print drawings but not edit them. www.nemetschek.net they are very Mac friendly. David Sikes - Original Message - From: Chandan Haldar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Wotcha Weaver Linux. I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much better that it's worth the move. Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Keith, I have to agree with you that Linux is possibly not yet for every desktop. I have used Linux for 6 years now. It has a tremendous support network (much better than its commercial competitors.) There are some jobs that are handled differently to the M$ product, unfortunately it is a learning curve. However, the problems I find moving from one version of M$ Word for instance, is no more than I find learning about a Linux package! I personally use Mepis Linux, which I find has everything most people require all on one CD. There are other distributions equally as good. The thing that has surprised me is that the myriad of Virii, Trojans, and other malicious software that seems to attack M$ products, has not rung alarm bells with the average consumer, and made them investigate alternatives. I think this will happen. I am already seeing friends who have no interest in computers, now firing up a live Linux distribution to browse on the web, and read emails. This tends to minimise the risk of a virus afflicting the M$ system living on the harddrive. Macs now use BSD as their operating system. BSD is similar to Linux (and to other Unix's.) Can any Mac users tell me if there are Mac viruses now? With the security of BSD I would doubt it. regards Doug (a linux die-hard) On Monday 12 June 2006 5:59, Keith Addison wrote: Wotcha Weaver Linux. I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much better that it's worth the move. Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. : this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Actually, Mac OSX is really just UNIX, in the form of tweaked FreeBSD. All the Adobe stuff would run on Linux as well as they run on OSX, but Adobe (I suspect due the the not so gentle prodding of MS and perhaps Apple) has chosen not too release Linux versions. Anyting that runs on OSX would run on Linux with very little work, probably just a recompile... OSX is *nix with a human face Keith Addison wrote: Wotcha Weaver Linux. I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much better that it's worth the move. Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Hi Mike Weaver I know OSX is UNIX, but it took Apple four or five years after release for the tweaking to produce a really good OS. And I still don't use OSX, though I'm being forced in that direction, but who needs an entire software upgrade/replacement? I'll install OSX in the end and mostly run OS9 with it, for a long time to come I expect. From what I've seen of such things I wouldn't be too happy about entrusting the JtF site to a GoLive that's been tweaked for Linux, or not until it was as solid as say Mailman. Anyway, the original argument falls away, if OSX is UNIX anyway, then why use Linux? That human face is of a grown-up, not a kid, and whether it's UNIX or OS9 it saves me a a large amount of non-negotiable time. Either way I'd still have this current graphics conversion problem. Best Keith Actually, Mac OSX is really just UNIX, in the form of tweaked FreeBSD. All the Adobe stuff would run on Linux as well as they run on OSX, but Adobe (I suspect due the the not so gentle prodding of MS and perhaps Apple) has chosen not too release Linux versions. Anyting that runs on OSX would run on Linux with very little work, probably just a recompile... OSX is *nix with a human face Keith Addison wrote: Wotcha Weaver Linux. I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much better that it's worth the move. Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Hello Doug Keith, I have to agree with you that Linux is possibly not yet for every desktop. I have used Linux for 6 years now. It has a tremendous support network (much better than its commercial competitors.) There are some jobs that are handled differently to the M$ product, unfortunately it is a learning curve. However, the problems I find moving from one version of M$ Word for instance, is no more than I find learning about a Linux package! I can imagine. But I don't use that comparison, especially not since Word 6 allegedly for Mac. Word 5 was a good program but 6 was a mess, just a half-assed makeover of the Windoze version, everybody dumped it. Learning curve yes, but it wasn't worth learning. I personally use Mepis Linux, which I find has everything most people require all on one CD. There are other distributions equally as good. The thing that has surprised me is that the myriad of Virii, Trojans, and other malicious software that seems to attack M$ products, has not rung alarm bells with the average consumer, and made them investigate alternatives. Sixty million infected Windows computers and the owners haven't got a clue. But then a lot of them haven't figured out how to copy and paste yet, let alone what a patch is. Windows isn't intuitive, people don't learn by doing, and I think that might have done more harm than the viruses have. I think this will happen. I hope you're right. I am already seeing friends who have no interest in computers, now firing up a live Linux distribution to browse on the web, and read emails. This tends to minimise the risk of a virus afflicting the M$ system living on the harddrive. Macs now use BSD as their operating system. BSD is similar to Linux (and to other Unix's.) Hence my hope that they might learn to talk to each other at some stage. Can any Mac users tell me if there are Mac viruses now? With the security of BSD I would doubt it. Oh, there are, we keep hearing about it, only it's hard to find one. I haven't seen one for 15 years. I think if someone does actually manage to capture one and their existence is thus proved it should probably be put on the CITES list like the yeti. Mac viruses are supposed to come with MS macros, for Excel I think, maybe for Word too. Well, you can see how vague I am about it. regards Doug (a linux die-hard) Maybe I'll be joining you one of these days. All best Keith On Monday 12 June 2006 5:59, Keith Addison wrote: Wotcha Weaver Linux. I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much better that it's worth the move. Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. : this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
It's getting hard to keep the old OS9 stuff running as they don't release anything new for it. I have some programs running in emulation mode - poky but works - the more memory the better. I run an old 400 mhz G4 w/ SCSI and 2 GB on the board. Not blazing but I like it. Ugly enough I have Windoze on a laptop - my business it's hard to make a living w/o knowing Windows. I use Linux for almost all my servers - only a few Windows2003 boxes and that's because the clients have programs that execute on the server. I'm very much headed into the open source movement - trying to use as much open source software as possible. I think Apple just did a better job of making *nix friendly than the Gnome or KDE interface. It's getting better, though. -Mike Keith Addison wrote: Hi Mike Weaver I know OSX is UNIX, but it took Apple four or five years after release for the tweaking to produce a really good OS. And I still don't use OSX, though I'm being forced in that direction, but who needs an entire software upgrade/replacement? I'll install OSX in the end and mostly run OS9 with it, for a long time to come I expect. From what I've seen of such things I wouldn't be too happy about entrusting the JtF site to a GoLive that's been tweaked for Linux, or not until it was as solid as say Mailman. Anyway, the original argument falls away, if OSX is UNIX anyway, then why use Linux? That human face is of a grown-up, not a kid, and whether it's UNIX or OS9 it saves me a a large amount of non-negotiable time. Either way I'd still have this current graphics conversion problem. Best Keith Actually, Mac OSX is really just UNIX, in the form of tweaked FreeBSD. All the Adobe stuff would run on Linux as well as they run on OSX, but Adobe (I suspect due the the not so gentle prodding of MS and perhaps Apple) has chosen not too release Linux versions. Anyting that runs on OSX would run on Linux with very little work, probably just a recompile... OSX is *nix with a human face Keith Addison wrote: Wotcha Weaver Linux. I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much better that it's worth the move. Best Keith Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and
[Biofuel] Help with graphics
Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Keith, Send me a sample, I have an old version of visio somewhere, before I substituted if for smartdraw. I have a go and if smartdraw will take them, I can convert them to another format. Hakan At 10:38 11/06/2006, you wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Hi Hakan Keith, Send me a sample, I have an old version of visio somewhere, before I substituted if for smartdraw. I have a go and if smartdraw will take them, I can convert them to another format. Thankyou Hakan, if it's not too much trouble. It looks like something useful for us all. I'll send it now offlist. Regards Keith Hakan At 10:38 11/06/2006, you wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Help with graphics
Linux. Keith Addison wrote: Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... :-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. this converter is Windoz sw. Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. Chandan Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. Thanks again, all best Keith Chandan Haldar wrote: Keith, You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or pdf formats. As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a visio file to try it out. Cheers. Chandan Keith Addison wrote: Hello all Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. He said: the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may convert to html. We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? Thanks much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
