Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Late to the party, and not being local to New York, I vaguely recall the Local trains have circles and Express have diamonds (except on older cars, in which it'll have a red LOCAL light or a green EXPRESS light, but you're unlikely to see these unless there's a big holiday like the Fourth of July or Christmas, in which these older cars are usually decorated for the occasion as well). On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 21:20, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Knowing ... which train is the local and the express in any given line How can you tell? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
As far as I know in the regular MTA map ( http://web.mta.info/maps/submap.html) for any given line the stations with black dots are locals and the ones with white dots are combination/express ones. So you just have to take a look at what train numbers/letters stop in those stations to know which ones are locals (6 in the green line) and which ones are express (4 and 5 for that exampe). Sometimes, to save time on a really long run, you can take the express to the last combination station before the local station that you are trying to reach, and you just change trains there to do that last slow leg. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 17:58, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 21:20, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Knowing ... which train is the local and the express in any given line How can you tell? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica) Not this weekend. It's closed (Fri-Mon inclusive) for maintenance. There's a free shuttle bus (*very* badly signposted, at least at terminal 4) to the Airtrain stop at Federal Circle; then a free Aitrtain shuttle service to Jamaica *only*. The queues [sic] were horrendous, and disorganised. I got the E train from Jamaica to 14th St; your directions were most helpful from there. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
I had the same problem till Federal Circle back in October (also it was 1:00AM and I had to pick-up a friend arriving at a different terminal around the same time, so the whole inter-terminal bus ride made quite an story), but from there on the AirTrain was working to Howard Beach and the only surprise was the every station stopping express trains at that time of the night (not bad since I was going to a local station). Jamaica is still fine (actually that's the way I did it the first time I went to NYC), but I definitely prefer Howard Beach and the A train. As long as everything is working ;) Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 5 June 2015 at 20:00, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica) Not this weekend. It's closed (Fri-Mon inclusive) for maintenance. There's a free shuttle bus (*very* badly signposted, at least at terminal 4) to the Airtrain stop at Federal Circle; then a free Aitrtain shuttle service to Jamaica *only*. The queues [sic] were horrendous, and disorganised. I got the E train from Jamaica to 14th St; your directions were most helpful from there. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Julio Costa Zambelli writes: Another word of advice/tip for NYC Subway first timers, Another tip/quirk, particularly on weekends: some trains don't stop at some stations. Not so terrible if you're *at* the station. Not good if you're trying to get TO the station. Just keep your eye open for stations with a gray mark on them. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 16:38, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_carroute=40.6429%2C-73.7794%3B40.7491%2C-73.9679#map=12/40.7002/-73.8734 ? -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 21:20, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Knowing ... which train is the local and the express in any given line How can you tell? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Andy, I am a frugal traveller so I have always used the subway to/from JFK. From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica), once there you only have A trains and you have to take one towards Manhattan. You get off the train in the 14th Street station (it should be a long trip, a little longer if its late night since the train will stop at every station at that time of the day). From the station you walk a few meters south to Jackson Square and then left (East) on West 13th Street (on the Starbucks according to our map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/40.73925/-74.00224) until you cross 7th Avenue. To get to the UN Headquarters probably the easiest way is to walk to the Union Square Station (three blocks away to the East) take the train 4 or 5 (Express) towards Bronx and get off the train in Grand Central 42nd Street station and walk a few blocks East (until you reach the river ;) If you combine http://web.mta.info/maps/submap.html and OSM it should be quite easy. I do it that way every time. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 13:58, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Well I visited New York in 2004 and then the choice was either a shuttle bus (which drops you off somewhere near Grand Central) or the monorail to an A train subway station which would take you into Manhattan. Once you're in Manhattan I guess you can just use an OSM map ;-) Obviously things might have changed now... Nick From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Sent: 04 June 2015 16:38 To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: subway Brilliantly detailed; just what I was looking for. Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Well I visited New York in 2004 and then the choice was either a shuttle bus (which drops you off somewhere near Grand Central) or the monorail to an A train subway station which would take you into Manhattan. Once you're in Manhattan I guess you can just use an OSM map ;-) Obviously things might have changed now... Nick From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Sent: 04 June 2015 16:38 To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
You're welcome! Another word of advice/tip for NYC Subway first timers, in many stations you have to choose the entrance depending on which direction you are going (many of them don't have a mezzanine or distribution passages). For example, if you are in Manhattan and going Southbound/Downtown/Brooklyn/etc. you use the entrances on the west sidewalk of that street, if you are going Northbound/Harlem/Bronx you will use the entrances on the opposite side of the street. Knowing this and which train is the local and the express in any given line can save you a lot of time. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 15:38, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: subway Brilliantly detailed; just what I was looking for. Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Grate advice Julio, other option --staying there-- is use navigation capabilities of OsmAnd mobile app. El jun. 4, 2015 12:53 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl escribió: Andy, I am a frugal traveller so I have always used the subway to/from JFK. From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica), once there you only have A trains and you have to take one towards Manhattan. You get off the train in the 14th Street station (it should be a long trip, a little longer if its late night since the train will stop at every station at that time of the day). From the station you walk a few meters south to Jackson Square and then left (East) on West 13th Street (on the Starbucks according to our map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/40.73925/-74.00224) until you cross 7th Avenue. To get to the UN Headquarters probably the easiest way is to walk to the Union Square Station (three blocks away to the East) take the train 4 or 5 (Express) towards Bronx and get off the train in Grand Central 42nd Street station and walk a few blocks East (until you reach the river ;) If you combine http://web.mta.info/maps/submap.html and OSM it should be quite easy. I do it that way every time. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 13:58, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Well I visited New York in 2004 and then the choice was either a shuttle bus (which drops you off somewhere near Grand Central) or the monorail to an A train subway station which would take you into Manhattan. Once you're in Manhattan I guess you can just use an OSM map ;-) Obviously things might have changed now... Nick From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Sent: 04 June 2015 16:38 To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
