Re: Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-27 Thread Fred
 Would  be nice to have a way to save a selected group of messages as a
 text  file,  with  only  selected headers shown, at some stage.

Then just copy one of each pair and rename the copy as a *.TXT file.

The identical *.EML and *.MSG files appear as just simple text files, which
you can open in any text editor, although any binary attachments will
appear as random gobbledegook.

I wouldn't recommend editing any of the files, especially those with binary
content, though.

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Re: Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-27 Thread Fred
 so  .eml  and .msg files are identical?

I say so based on empirical evidence (and not any formal documentation).

I exported a small text-only TheBat message (with no attachments) as both
types of files, and then I also exported a TheBat message with several
attachments as both types. Running a binary comparison on each pair of
files showed that the two small *.EML and *.MSG files were identical with
each other, and the two large *.EML and *.MSG files were identical with
each other.

Of course, it would be a rather large (and risky) extrapolation to claim
that this is true under all situations (which is why I said appear as in
my original reply). Therefore, as you have said, it's a good idea to save
as both types of files, and such paranoia might be good insurance. :-)

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Re: Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-27 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Wednesday 27 August 2014 at 1:57:17 PM, in
mid:1145046091.20140827085...@cetussoft.com, Fred wrote:


 Of course, it would be a rather large (and risky)
 extrapolation to claim that this is true under all
 situations (which is why I said appear as in my
 original reply). Therefore, as you have said, it's a
 good idea to save as both types of files, and such
 paranoia might be good insurance. :-)  

I thought the two were the same. 

But http://www.zamzar.com/convert/msg-to-eml/ says:-

MSG was originally designed for the Microsoft Exchange mail 
document, this format is widely used by all of Microsofts 
infrastructure solutions. MSG files consist of main message body, 
calender, contacts and reminders, these are arranged in a 
hierachial directory structure and underpinned by MAPI (Microsofts 
Messaging Application Programming Interface). A MSG file are often 
formed by Outlook Express of Microsoft Outlook. They are saved as 
COM structured storage OLE2 compound documents and consist of 
several streams with sub tags. A MSG file maybe encoded in either 
Binary or ASCII.

And:-

EML was designed to store e-mail messages in the form of a plain 
text file. It is structured with a header and main body, the 
header consists of the email address of both the sender and 
recipient, the subject and time and date the email was sent. The 
main message area of the email is described as the body and can 
contain hyperlinks and file attachments. EML files were created to 
comply with the industry RFC 822 standard which is the standard 
format for Arpa Internet text messages first conceived in August 
1982. EML files contain plain ASCII text for the headers and the 
main message body and may be exported for the purposes of 
archiving and storage. 


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Re: Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-27 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Chris,

Thanks  again  for  helping  to  trace  the reason for my TBUDL messages not
appearing  on my list.  As far as I can see, the message to you arrived back
in  my  PC  from  Ritlabs  list  but was not filtered to any folder.  I have
renewed  the  relative  filter and remade it.  This is just a test to see if
something will now work.

Sorry  to  be  bothering  you.  You need not respond, unless you really want
to!!




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Re: Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-26 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Tuesday 26 August 2014 at 5:09:37 PM, in
mid:1092045874.20140826170...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote:




 26 August 2014

 Despite being a very long time Bat! user i have never
 had cause to do this until now. I want to save a series
 of about 60 e-mails in one folder to disc, and be able
 to re enter them into TB! at a later date if needed. 

You can drag them from the message list and drop in a Windows folder, 
or use the Tools ¦ Export Messages menu item.



 and be able
 to re enter them into TB! at a later date if needed

In my experience, bringing them back into TB! changes the time/date
shown in the Received display header (but not in the Created 
header, thankfully).

You can drag them back from a Windows folder and drop into the
message list, or use the Tools ¦ Import Messages menu item.



 I
 may also have a need to collate them together and print
 them off in one go. 

Perhaps somebody else can suggest a good way to do this. If you just 
concatenate the text in the files, it will include the full headers, 
which you may not want.


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Re: Saving a series of e-mails to disc?

2014-08-26 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Chris,

Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 6:09:37 PM, among other things, you wrote:

CW Despite being a very long time Bat! user i have never had cause to do
CW this until now. I want to save a series of about 60 e-mails in one
CW folder to disc, and be able to re enter them into TB! at a later date
CW if needed. I may also have a need to collate them together and print
CW them off in one go. Are these things possible please, and how should I
CW attempt these tasks? Thanks. TB! V 5.8.10 under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

 In  the  Tools  menu  there  are items for Export Messages and Import
 which  should  do what you want.

 Having said that, I am wondering why it is necessary to remove the messages
 from  TheBat!.   If it is to remove them from the eyes of other users, then
 that  can be achieved by putting them into a special Account with its own
 password.   This  account  need  not  have  any  facility  for sending or
 receiving  mail  but  would  have all the normal TB facilities for editing,
 printing and collating.


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