[users] Re: [distribution-dev] English 3.3.0

2011-04-03 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 4/3/2011 12:26 PM, Patricia Bluhm wrote:


 I do not know what you are talking about.  Stop bothering me.

Pat Bluhm


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[users] Re: Tables

2011-04-03 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 4/3/2011 4:15 PM, Paul wrote:
This question is best asked on the users@openoffice.org mailto:users@openoffice.org mailing 
list. There are many people just waiting to assist.


/paul

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Vincent A Juliano vjuli...@optonline.net 
mailto:vjuli...@optonline.net wrote:


Folks,

I need to learn how to create and manage tables in OO3.  The tutorial 
on*table of contents*
does not address my problem.

It is necessary to put a heading above or outside the table. I can't find 
or don't recognize
the listing for the*table wizard.*
*
*
I would most appreciate any assistance in helping me to understand what to 
do and how to do
it.  If there is a place that describes how to learn to use tables I'd be 
most appreciative.

Vince Juliano



Vince, you probably want the actions available through the Table menu on the main menu bar, and/or 
the Table toolbar available from View  Toolbars  Table. If you are just beginning to use 
OpenOffice.org, I recommend reading the Getting Started document (and in this case, especially the 
Getting Started with Writer chapter):

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Getting_Started

Further details about Writer are documented in the Writer Guide:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide

One chapter of that is Working with Tables, if you need even more information.

You'll also want to start getting familiar with the way Writer uses styles at various levels, and 
again there's an introduction in the Getting Started material. For instance, if you create a table 
you can apply the Table Heading style to its first row. You can come back here any time with more 
questions, of course.


There's a wealth of documentation available on the wiki, in PDFs, and in Writer's native ODT format; 
here's a general link that may be helpful:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation

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[users] Re: Digest for list users /unsubscribe

2011-04-01 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/31/2011 10:19 PM, Stefan Taxhet wrote:

Hi Barbara, All,

On 30.03.2011 15:41, Barbara Duprey wrote:

On 3/29/2011 8:04 PM, Gusty Sluder wrote:

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[users] Re: Digest for list users /unsubscribe

2011-04-01 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 4/1/2011 12:26 PM, Patricia Bluhm wrote:
I do not know what you are talking about.  I have not tried to unsubscribe from any list because I 
didn't know I was on a list.  All I have tried to do is find out how to delete documents out of my 
OpenOffice document file.

Pat Bluhm


Yes, Pat, you have subscribed to the openoffice.org users list -- if you didn't intend to do that, 
you'll want to unsubscribe. :-)


Meanwhile, we've been trying to help you, but the main problem is that there is not an OpenOffice 
document file per se. Whenever you save a document from OOo, you have a chance to tell it where to 
save the file; by default on a Windows system, that is the My Documents folder, along with 
everything else. (To see where they go by default on your system, use Tools  Options, 
OpenOffice.org, Paths, and look at the My Documents field -- which you can change if you want.)


Once you know where the files are, you can use whatever your operating system supports for file 
deletion; there is nothing unique to OOo about deleting files, that isn't done from within OOo. As I 
said in an earlier response, if you are on Windows you might find it easiest to deal with a large 
number of files if you sort by filetype for the list presented by Windows Explorer, or use the 
Search capability to find files with the extension odt (which is what Writer uses), by using the 
search term *.odt (without the quotes, of course).

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[users] Re: Digest for list users /unsubscribe

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/29/2011 8:04 PM, Gusty Sluder wrote:

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[users] Re: Template

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/29/2011 5:10 PM, Spencer wrote:

Hi,
I created a template for a document that is
about 10 pages long. After creating the template and
saving it, I open up a new document and my template
comes up. However, when I come to the
end of the first page and go to the next
page, page 2, my template dose not appear any more.
It only show when I start a new document. Is there
some kind of linkage I got to do to tell writer
to use this template for every page?
Thanks


If what you did was create a custom page style that you want to use throughout your document, you 
need to set its next page style to point to itself.


   * F11 to bring up Styles and Formatting.
   * Select the icon for page styles.
   * Your page style will be highlighted. Right click on it and choose Modify.
   * On the Organizer tab, set Next Style to the name of your page style.

Otherwise, you'll need to give us some more information about exactly what you did and how you want 
the document to appear, and it would also be helpful for you to say what operating system and 
version, and OOo version, you are using.

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[users] Re: Template

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/30/2011 10:04 AM, Spencer wrote:

On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 08:53 -0500, Barbara Duprey wrote:

On 3/29/2011 5:10 PM, Spencer wrote:

Hi,
I created a template for a document that is
about 10 pages long. After creating the template and
saving it, I open up a new document and my template
comes up. However, when I come to the
end of the first page and go to the next
page, page 2, my template dose not appear any more.
It only show when I start a new document. Is there
some kind of linkage I got to do to tell writer
to use this template for every page?
Thanks

If what you did was create a custom page style that you want to use throughout 
your document, you
need to set its next page style to point to itself.

 * F11 to bring up Styles and Formatting.
 * Select the icon for page styles.
 * Your page style will be highlighted. Right click on it and choose Modify.
 * On the Organizer tab, set Next Style to the name of your page style.

Otherwise, you'll need to give us some more information about exactly what you 
did and how you want
the document to appear, and it would also be helpful for you to say what 
operating system and
version, and OOo version, you are using.
--

Hi Barbra,
I am using OO 3.2 on ubuntu 10.4.
What category under page style should I use. Left Page?
I am still not sure of the concept under Left Page or
Right Page.
Thanks For the help.


You generally don't need Left Page/ Right Page unless you are producing something that will be 
bound, and therefore needs the inside margins wider than the outside ones, or if you want alternate 
pages to have different header/footer content. If you need one of these page styles, you need both; 
even-numbered pages will use the Left Page style, and odd-numbered pages will use the Right Page style.


In your case, if you want all the pages to use the same style the easiest way is to modify the 
Default page style to have the header/footer content you want. Just using Insert  Header and/or 
Insert Footer will do that, and Default already has Default as its next page style. Note that this 
will affect only the current document; if you want to use this layout again, you should save it as a 
template (File  Templates  Save), which will make it available to use with File  New  Templates 
and Documents.


I'm glad you're getting the Writer Guide; you might also want to download the Getting Started guide, 
or just the chapter on Getting Started with Writer, which will give you a general understanding of 
the major features of Writer.

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[users] Re: Confuse on page breaks

2011-03-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/28/2011 10:33 AM, Spencer wrote:

Hi,
My template:
HEADER 2
HEADER 2
HEADER 3
some text

HEADER 3
HEADER 4
some text
HEADER 3
some text
page 1

Ever page will have this format.I put a manual
brake after page number, think that when I go
to the next page I get my template again. Instead
I get a blank page, which I think is the default
page. How do I get my template to be my template
always?
Thanks
It's not really clear exactly what you mean here by template (though it doesn't seem to be what 
OOo means by that). You can set up a custom page style so that all pages have the same layout, but 
though that can control the content of headers/footers, it does not establish the content of the 
text area. What you are describing sounds more like a pattern for the text area itself. If that's 
correct, the easiest way is to copy the content from page to page and make the changes for new 
material. There are more elegant solutions, such as setting up a separate file which you then insert 
for each new page (using Insert  File).

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[users] Re: Digest for list users

2011-03-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/28/2011 12:19 PM, reg wrote:

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Table of contents:

1. [users] Open Office Question - Wind Dancer Shelties karen...@sbcglobal.net 
mailto:karen...@sbcglobal.net
2. [users] [moderated] - ROWENA NEWBERRY rowenanewbe...@btinternet.com 
mailto:rowenanewbe...@btinternet.com
3. [users] Registration and Mobile Frustration - thronetoget...@gmail.com 
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4. [users] shared file can't open directly - Nirav Ambani nirav.amb...@smartstation.in 
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5. [users] Re: Welcome to the users@openoffice.org mailto:users@openoffice.org mailing list! - 
Paul paul.m...@gmail.com mailto:paul.m...@gmail.com

6. [users] Re: Open Office Question - Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com 
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7. [users] Re: [moderated] - James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com 
mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com
8. [users] Re: [moderated] - James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com 
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9. [users] Re: [moderated] - Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com mailto:b...@onr.com
10. [users] Export Html Outline Numbering/Lettering Broken - Joel Cambon joel2@gmail.com 
mailto:joel2@gmail.com
11. [users] Re: Export Html Outline Numbering/Lettering Broken - jomali jomali3...@gmail.com 
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12. [users] Re: Export Html Outline Numbering/Lettering Broken - Joel Cambon joel2@gmail.com 
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[users] Re: Open Office Question

2011-03-27 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/26/2011 2:06 PM, Wind Dancer Shelties wrote:
I have the Open Office on CD and have it used it for several years now.  For some reason, now when 
I make a text document and send it to someone, it will not open for them...even when I send it 
to myself and then try to open it.

It is fine going out of my computer, but when it arrives, it will not open.
This has never happened to me before..why all of a sudden?  Is maybe a 
file corrupted??
Thanks,
Karen Ritchie


[Karen (karen...@sbcglobal.net) is not subscribed and probably will not see responses unless 
directly copied.]


That's one possibility, but there are others. My first recommendation is that you uninstall your 
current version of OOo, then get and install the most recent one that is supported on your system -- 
there have been a great many changes over the course of several years that complicate the issue of 
how to help you. If you do have a corrupted version, that will fix it, and also get you more 
current. If you don't have broadband access, there are some CD sources listed on the 
www.openoffice.org website (with no guarantees from OOo); in that case, you might try reinstalling 
what you have while you wait for a newer version, and see if that helps. Or you could go to a 
library or other location that has the access, and download onto a CD or USB drive, then install 
from that. Just make sure that you get the right version for your system. The default is to download 
the version for the system doing the downloading; you may have to follow the link for other to 
select the right one for you.


OK -- now for some questions to you. What operating system and version are you using? What is the 
extension for the documents you are sending -- .odt, .doc, ...? Are these documents that you are 
originating, or are you editing things from somewhere else, and if so, what was the original format? 
How are you sending the files -- using File  Send  Document as E-mail, saving the document and 
explicitly attaching it to a message, ...? Is OOo Writer the program that tries to open the files 
and fails? Do you see any error messages, and if so, what are they?

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-27 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/11/2008 4:04 PM, ROWENA NEWBERRY wrote:
I have a desktop icon for Openoffice installation files, have done the installation wizard, but 
don't know how to access the actual programmes, I just get lists and lists of file, what else do I 
need to do?

I completed the survey.


[Rowena (rowenanewbe...@btinternet.com) is not subscribed and will probably not see any responses 
unless directly copied.]


First, it would be good to set your computer clock -- it's more than three 
years out of date!

If you have run the installation wizard, you should have a number of ways to access the programs. If 
you are using a Windows system, for example, you should have at least a folder in your Start menu 
that conatins icons for the various components, like Writer and Calc. Also, depending on what you 
did during installation, you may have a icon for the OOo Quickstarter in your system tray (bottom 
right of your screen) and/or a desktop icon for the applications, in addition to the one for the 
downloaded installer file.


If this doesn't get you going, please tell us what operating system and version you are using, what 
version of OOo you downloaded, and where you got the downloaded file if it wasn't www.openoffice.org 
or one of its official mirrors. In addition, if you changed anything from the defaults during 
installation, what changes did you make?

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[users] Re: A Ponter to some doc please

2011-03-26 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/26/2011 4:34 PM, Spencer wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to find some doc on how to take a current
document and make a template out of it. I did see this
on the web, but I can not find it now. Any pointer please.
Thanks,
Wayne


with your document open, use File  Templates  Save. Choose a name for your template, and make sure 
the appropriate location (usually My Templates) is highlighted in the first list. OK the save, and 
your template will be available, using File  New  Templates and Documents, when you want to use it 
for a new document. There are other things you can do, of course; for further details, here's the 
link to a PDF:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/1/12/0210WG3-WorkingWithTemplatesInWriter.pdf

It's also available as a wiki article:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Working_with_Templates
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[users] Re: Deleting Files [was Re: A Ponter to some doc please]

2011-03-26 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/26/2011 5:21 PM, Patricia Bluhm wrote:

I do not want to make a template.  I want to delete some files---in fact, at 
lot of files.

Pat Bluhm


Pat, it's really not recommended that you introduce a new topic by replying to an unrelated one; 
that's called thread hijacking. Start with a new message to users@openoffice.org instead, giving it 
a descriptive subject.


For deleting files, you need to use whatever your operating system supports, which has nothing to do 
with OOo, of course. For example, in Windows, you can use Windows Explorer to find the files and 
delete them. If you're thinking about OOo in this context because you want to delete old OOo 
documents, say, you might find it helpful to sort by file type to make selecting lots of similar 
files easier, or use the operating system's search capability to find them with a search term like 
*.odt.

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[users] Re: USB downloadable device

2011-03-22 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/19/2011 8:41 AM, Micheal Jones wrote:

Good morning!

Is there a way for me to receive a USB device to download open office.  I have a laptop mini and 
its takes a while for me to download this program through wireless.  Is there a better way?




Thanks and have a wonderful day always!

 Do not let anybody work harder today than I do /Dr. James Naismith/

Micheal L. Jones  SSC, RAA Certified
Email: mljskz...@hotmail.com mailto:mljskz...@hotmail.com


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copied.]

If your laptop can read CDs, there are some sources for those listed on the website (without 
guarantees from OOo), but I don't think you'll find a USB device source. You may be able to use a 
local library or other such location to download to your own USB device -- just make sure you get 
the right version for your system, the default is to get the version for whatever system is being 
used for the download. There is a link for other that leads to a table where you can select the 
appropriate version. Otherwise, you may be best off to do the download wirelessly when you can leave 
your laptop (on its charger!) working for a while.

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[users] Re: Understanding paragraph theory

2011-03-15 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/14/2011 8:38 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:

* Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com  [110314 17:14]:

Looks pretty good, but realize that the paragraph styles and font
selections are not necessarily visible -- they can be removed from
the toolbar displays, and many people do so, to save screen space
and (especially for character formatting like fonts, bolding, etc.)
to avoid the tendency to use direct formatting*. A common
characteristic is that when the Styles and Formatting dialog is
visible, you can easily identify the style applicable to the current
cursor location (at any level -- page, paragraph, character, frame,
or list) by

Understood. And F11 is a shortcut..

selecting the level and the Applied Styles subset; it

Not sure what you mean by selecting the level and the Applied
Styles subset. What is the procedure to make this selection?


By selecting the level, I mean clicking the appropriate icon in the Styles and Formatting dialog 
(say, for the paragraph styles). Then in the same dialog, use the drop-down list at the bottom and 
select the Applied Styles option.



will be highlighted. That's easier than trying to look in, say, All
Styles for a match. In general, you probably want to start with
Automatic Styles to select common appropriate styles for new
material.

* Direct formatting trumps all the style information and means that
you lose the ability to modify your whole document consistently if
you want to, say, change the font for a particular kind of text
element.

  Do I understand Direct formatting is when one right-clicks in the
  paragraph and makes a selection from the menu?
That would be one way, but basically anything that changes an attribute that can also be changed by 
using an appropriate style -- in other words, any formatting change you make that does *not* involve 
applying a style. For instance, selecting text and clicking the Bold icon is direct formatting.



It can get very messy!

   grin  I am dealing with 15 documents/chapters of a novel written
   by my wife Barbara originally on one of the earliest versions of
   Word in 1995.


I can't remember if Word even had the concept of styles back then -- even now, they're not central 
to the document model as they are with OOo. Glad she's reviving her novel, and it's nice that there 
are a lot more publishing options now. But tell her we won't bite if she asks the questions herself! 
I hope you have some projects of your own in mind, too.



If you want to keep documents alive
for future use, it's really good to train yourself to use styles
rather than direct formatting.

   Right on!
   Thanks Barbara


You're very welcome!
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[users] Re: Why is OO my default?

2011-03-15 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/15/2011 7:37 AM, Lisa Dee wrote:
I have installed OpenOffice on my MacBook Pro as a favor to my employer. Now every document, 
regardless of file extension, is automatically launched through OpenOffice. How do I change OO so 
that it is NOT my default app?


Lisa Dee


You'll need to change the file association for each extension you don't want using OOo as its 
default. You may be able to right click on a file of such a type, choose Open With, and browse to 
the program you want as the default, selecting the option to always use this program. That's one way 
it works on Windows, but I'm not sure whether the Mac uses the same mechanism. If not, you'll need 
to look up the help for changing file associations.

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[users] Re: Why is OO my default?

2011-03-15 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/15/2011 6:01 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2011/03/15 4:44 PM  James Wilde wrote:
Thanks Larry.  I did a quick search for the word moderate but didn't see it.  Didn't know it had 
been changed.
One of the many changes due to the migration. I found it because I post through gmane and 
everything I sent started going through the moderator. I did a search through all the headers and 
finally spotted it. Here is the sequence in the headers:


   X-Sympa-To: users@openoffice.org
   X-Original-To: users@openoffice.org
   Delivered-To: users@openoffice.org

It seems that one thing that wasn't changed with the migration. People can still post even though 
they are not subscribed.


Larry


Thanks for the info, Larry!
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[users] Re: Understanding paragraph theory

2011-03-14 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/14/2011 5:29 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:

I'm trying to wrap my head around the theory of how paragraphs are
managed in OO. (Using OO 3.3 debian on ubuntu).
 From an earlier posting with input from Brian and Andy I've arrived
at the following understanding of how paragraphs are managed. The
sequence I describe follows (to my understanding) the order of
precedence.
-
1)Default Document :
 From Tools-Options-OpenOffice.Org Writer-General,
set Tab stops
-
2)Paragraph Style :
With cursor on a paragraph, the bottom paragraph style will be
displayed (on my setup) at the leftmost of the lowermost toolbar at
the top of the OO main window. The font will be displayed in a
window to the right of the style window.  To the left of the style
window is an icon, which if clicked will bring up the Styles and
Formatting window. The leftmost icon on this window should be
selected, if not - select it. Once should then be able to find an
item with the same name as the style. One may need to try some other
options from the drop-down list at the bottom of the window.
Right-clicking on the style name and choosing Modify will allow
one to edit attributes of the paragraph style.
-
3)Individual paragraph
With the cursor in a paragraph, right clicking will bring up a
dialogue menu and choosing Paragraph from the menu will allow
editing of attributes for the individual paragraph.

:)How am I doing so far? I'd welcome edits, corrections and
comments. When it is determined that I have got it, I will restate
for archival purposes and enter the conclusion into my own knowledge
base.

TIA


Looks pretty good, but realize that the paragraph styles and font selections are not necessarily 
visible -- they can be removed from the toolbar displays, and many people do so, to save screen 
space and (especially for character formatting like fonts, bolding, etc.) to avoid the tendency to 
use direct formatting*. A common characteristic is that when the Styles and Formatting dialog is 
visible, you can easily identify the style applicable to the current cursor location (at any level 
-- page, paragraph, character, frame, or list) by selecting the level and the Applied Styles subset; 
it will be highlighted. That's easier than trying to look in, say, All Styles for a match. In 
general, you probably want to start with Automatic Styles to select common appropriate styles for 
new material.


* Direct formatting trumps all the style information and means that you lose the ability to modify 
your whole document consistently if you want to, say, change the font for a particular kind of text 
element. It can get very messy! If you want to keep documents alive for future use, it's really good 
to train yourself to use styles rather than direct formatting.

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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-12 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/11/2011 12:52 PM, openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Barbara Duprey wrote:

On 3/10/2011 3:13 PM, Paul wrote:

[snip]


 Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed -
I can't
 answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that
yourself as
 well, but that would be sending an email to another email address,
and based
 on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you
want to
 be subscribed I'll get it done.

No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
2006), and

Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this
happened before or after the list migration - have no idea. The old
mail list software had its issues (as does the new one) and I think
doing random things was one of them (although I agree this should not
be the case). I can re-subscribe you if you wish.


Another possibility is that enough messages bounced that it triggered
the automatic unsubscribe -- that happened to me a while back even on
the old system.



2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org
mailto:users@openoffice.org
seems to have gone missing.


When we changed to Sympa I also noticed that the header denoting
moderated posts was no long present. I think that it is just not a
feature of the software. I'll raise a question to the application
owners and will forward their response when its received.

/paul


If the capability isn't there anymore, it seems that the moderator who
gets a message from an unsubscribed user initiating a thread (or
hijacking one!) needs to give the user enough info to follow the
discussion via Nabble, Gmane, and/or the standard archive (wherever that
is now, and assuming there's a Reply capability). Has anybody worked out
such a procedure yet?

Another question is whether there is still a way to use a different
account for actions using an indirect form, like the old
listname-action-username=userisp@openoffice.org. If so, what is the
syntax? As you know, that was very handy to avoid problems with munged
addresses and so on.


There is for unsubscribe... From Sympa's help (once it realised I'm not a 
spammer):
 All commands must be sent to the electronic address
 sy...@openoffice.org

 You can put multiple commands in a message. These commands must
 appear in the message body and each line must contain only one
 command.

 Available commands are:
...
  SUBscribe list name * To subscribe or to confirm a
 subscription to list.

  UNSubscribe list EMAIL  * To quit list. EMAIL is an optional
 email address, useful if different from your From: address.
  UNSubscribe * EMAIL   * To quit all lists.

I'm not sure what the name parameter for SUBscribe is, but the others are obvious. It doesn't 
look like you can subscribe a different account (unless that's what name does?) although you can:

  INVITE list email   * Invite email for subscription in
 list
so perhaps that allows you to initiate a subscribe for another address.

Mark.


Thanks, Mark! Since they use EMAIL  or email rather than name for the ones that clearly allow 
e-mail accounts to be specified, it seems likely that name is only intended to specify the 
displayed name when the user posts to a list, though it may be restricted to not contain blanks, 
etc. (depending on the parser rules). It also looks as if you can probably use either the fully 
spelled out command or the initial letters, but it isn't clear whether case is relevant. One of the 
problems people had with the OOo lists was that sometimes the subscription was recorded with a 
munged address due to their configuration, and then could not be canceled without replicating that 
-- generally requiring use of the Return-Path header to dig it out. May still be true here, unless 
the subscription process standardizes the form of the address. That's the reason that I always 
recommended using the indirect form in the subscribe. Maybe the INVITE will allow that? Anyway, I'll 
see if I can get the whole help message for future reference.

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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-12 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/12/2011 10:51 AM, openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Barbara Duprey wrote:

On 3/11/2011 12:52 PM, openoffice.mbourneatspamgourmet.com wrote:

Barbara Duprey wrote:

Another question is whether there is still a way to use a different
account for actions using an indirect form, like the old
listname-action-username=userisp@openoffice.org. If so, what is the
syntax? As you know, that was very handy to avoid problems with munged
addresses and so on.


There is for unsubscribe... From Sympa's help (once it realised I'm
not a spammer):
 All commands must be sent to the electronic address
 sy...@openoffice.org

 You can put multiple commands in a message. These commands must
 appear in the message body and each line must contain only one
 command.

 Available commands are:
...
 SUBscribe list name * To subscribe or to confirm a
 subscription to list.

 UNSubscribe list EMAIL * To quit list. EMAIL is an optional
 email address, useful if different from your From: address.
 UNSubscribe * EMAIL * To quit all lists.

I'm not sure what the name parameter for SUBscribe is, but the
others are obvious. It doesn't look like you can subscribe a different
account (unless that's what name does?) although you can:
 INVITE list email * Invite email for subscription in
 list
so perhaps that allows you to initiate a subscribe for another address.

Mark.


Thanks, Mark! Since they use EMAIL or email rather than name for
the ones that clearly allow e-mail accounts to be specified, it seems
likely that name is only intended to specify the displayed name when
the user posts to a list, though it may be restricted to not contain
blanks, etc. (depending on the parser rules).


That would be my guess, too, although displayed name is usually included in the from: header each 
time an email is sent.


I guess they were allowing for people to choose a different displayed name from the one they used 
for the account. Not sure how useful that would be, but -- when in doubt, make something an option, 
right?






It also looks as if you
can probably use either the fully spelled out command or the initial
letters, but it isn't clear whether case is relevant.


Case doesn't seem to matter - or at least it worked when I've sent the help and lists commands 
entirely in lower case.


Thanks for checking, that's good.




One of the
problems people had with the OOo lists was that sometimes the
subscription was recorded with a munged address due to their
configuration, and then could not be canceled without replicating that
-- generally requiring use of the Return-Path header to dig it out. May
still be true here, unless the subscription process standardizes the
form of the address. That's the reason that I always recommended using
the indirect form in the subscribe.


UNSubscribe list EMAIL appears to be the way to unsubscribe in that situation (probably 
doesn't even need the address to be mangled, since it's now in the body of the email rather than 
encoded into the to: address).


The problem there came from the munging of the From address at subscribe time -- once the recorded 
subscriber address was known, the unsubscribe worked when it specified the munged subscription 
address using the indirect unsubscribe (here, the command you quote would be the analog), but 
finding the recorded subscribed address was the issue. The Return-Path header had it, though.





Maybe the INVITE will allow that?


Attempting to invite another of my own addresses as a test...
Mark Bourne wrote:

invite users [address removed]

SYMPA wrote:

Command has been rejected :


invite users [address removed]

 The 'invite' feature is unavailable.


So we appear to be out of luck subscribing an address other than the one in the from: header. Most 
mail clients allow the from: address to be set, but some ISPs seem to block outgoing mail sent 
from any address not in their own domain, and others have their outgoing mail server change the 
from: header to the address registered with them overriding whatever is specified in the mail 
client (I've found  gmail's authenticated SMTP server does that).


Others change the From, too, sometimes because of anti-spamming protocols -- that's the munging i 
referred to. I don't have any way to test this, but it would be good to know whether Sympa somehow 
standardizes the subscription address from the From header when necessary. Otherwise, we'll have the 
same problem here. But Return-Path is not helpful, it just shows list-ow...@openoffice.org, so I 
don't know how the subscribed address could be determined except by the owner or moderator doing 
detective work on the subscription list. Paul got pretty good at that! Or maybe some script could 
generate a Subscriber: header as the message is sent?




Barbara Duprey wrote:

Anyway, I'll see if I can get the whole help message for future reference.


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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/10/2011 3:13 PM, Paul wrote:

[snip]


 Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I 
can't
 answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself 
as
 well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and 
based
 on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want 
to
 be subscribed I'll get it done.

No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
2006), and 



Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this happened before or after the 
list migration - have no idea. The old mail list software had its issues (as does the new one) and 
I think doing random things was one of them (although I agree this should not be the case). I can 
re-subscribe you if you wish.


Another possibility is that enough messages bounced that it triggered the automatic unsubscribe -- 
that happened to me a while back even on the old system.




2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org 
mailto:users@openoffice.org
seems to have gone missing.


When we changed to Sympa I also noticed that the header denoting moderated posts was no long 
present. I think that it is just not a feature of the software. I'll raise a question to the 
application owners and will forward their response when its received.


/paul


If the capability isn't there anymore, it seems that the moderator who gets a message from an 
unsubscribed user initiating a thread (or hijacking one!) needs to give the user enough info to 
follow the discussion via Nabble, Gmane, and/or the standard archive (wherever that is now, and 
assuming there's a Reply capability). Has anybody worked out such a procedure yet?


Another question is whether there is still a way to use a different account for actions using an 
indirect form, like the old listname-action-username=userisp@openoffice.org. If so, what is the 
syntax? As you know, that was very handy to avoid problems with munged addresses and so on.

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[users] Re: [moderated]

2011-03-09 Thread Barbara Duprey
The most likely cause here is that there is an old soffice.bin process running on his (presumably) 
Windows system. A restart should allow the files to open normally, or he can use the Task Manager 
(whatever that is in French) to stop any soffice.bin process that shows as active. That will also 
stop any associated soffice.exe processes. Reinstalling should not be needed. Would you copy him, 
please? I don't have his address handy. Thanks!


This problem sometimes occurs when something goes wrong that causes OOo not to 
end normally.

On 3/9/2011 10:44 AM, john d. herron wrote:

Ceci est une liste pour usagers de langue anglaise.
Pour avoir de l'aide en français, tu trouves le forum sur _fr.openoffice.org_

Marcel says he has been using OO for more than one year.
For three days ago he's been unable to open anything, and when he tries to re-install he gets a 
message

/impossible, please close OpenOffice and make sure that.../  etc.
He's a layman and not proficient  in tech lingo. Requests help in recovering 
the functionality of OO.
Thanks even now.



On 03/04/2011 04:55 PM, Maurice Mercier wrote:
Bonjour ,je suis utilisateur de OpenOffice Org depuis plus d'un an,très utile pour ouvrir ;pièces 
jointes,diaporama, documents etc...
   Depuis trois jours,je ne peux plus rien ouvrir,et quand j'essaye de réinstaller,j'ai le 
message :impossible ,veuillez fermer Open Office et vous assurer etc..j'ai tout 
essayer...mais je suis profane et sans vocabulaire technique. pouvez vous m'aider à retrouver 
la fonctionnalité de OpenOffice ?

Merci d'avance. S.Mercier




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[users] Re: how to unsubscribe?

2011-03-02 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/2/2011 3:01 AM, Vic Dura wrote:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 02:53:23 -0500, Jacues Behar
jacquesbe...@hotmail.com  wrote Re [users] Re: how to unsubscribe?:


To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org

Have you tried sending an email from jacquesbe...@hotmail.com
to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org ?


Even if he had, there are several things that could have kept it from working -- most frequently 
munging of the from address either on initial subscription or when he tried to unsubscribe. I've 
helped several people get by this. But it's probably a moot point now, after the migration.

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[users] Re: Opening websites [was Enquiry on license issue]

2011-03-01 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/21/2011 1:28 AM, Sam Swaminath wrote:

Hi,
I am the user of ooo2.3.  I have no problem in that context.  I am using
MSWindows XP  IE7.  To my surprise, I m not able to open up Microsoft and
other Antivirus Web Site.  I recently bought  Mcafee online installation.
But I am not able to open up the website to install.   Kindly guide me why
so?  I have also removed all free AV.
Thanks,
With warm regards,
Sam


Sam, please send a new message, rather than replying to an existing one, when you are changing 
topics. This is considered to be hijacking a thread, and (a) means that only people who are 
following the original thread, rather than all those on the list, will see your question; and (b) it 
interferes with the message threading for those who are trying to follow the original discussion.


Did you see my earlier response to this question? To repeat:

This would not seem to have anything to do with OOo, which does not open up websites -- that's a 
browser function, and unless IE7 is broken or you have disabled something the site needs (like maybe 
cookies) you should not have an issue with that. What exactly do you see when you try? Look up 
towards the top of the screen and see if there's any kind of error indication about something being 
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[users] Re: How to select all the text in the document

2011-02-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/25/2011 6:03 AM, David B Teague wrote:

On 2/25/2011 3:24 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:46, James Wildejames.wi...@sunde-wilde.com  wrote:

Dotan, my experience is that if you place the cursor outside the table, 
everything will be selected.


'
Strangely, on this OOo 3.2 install (Kubuntu 10.10), it selects
_nothing_ outside the table. I'll check 3.3 later.


I'm using 3.3; XP SP3.  I put the cursor outside the table and pressed control-A. Everything is 
selected.

--David


If there is at least one paragraph before the first table, Ctrl-A or whatever works as expected. 
Otherwise, on my Win7/OOo3.1.1 system, only the first table is selected.

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[users] Re: Enquiry on license issue

2011-02-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/21/2011 1:28 AM, Sam Swaminath wrote:

Hi,
I am the user of ooo2.3.  I have no problem in that context.  I am using
MSWindows XP  IE7.  To my surprise, I m not able to open up Microsoft and
other Antivirus Web Site.  I recently bought  Mcafee online installation.
But I am not able to open up the website to install.   Kindly guide me why
so?  I have also removed all free AV.
Thanks,
With warm regards,
Sam


This would not seem to have anything to do with OOo, which does not open up websites -- that's a 
browser function, and unless IE7 is broken or you have disabled something the site needs (like maybe 
cookies) you should not have an issue with that. What exactly do you see when you try? Look up 
towards the top of the screen and see if there's any kind of error indication about something being 
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[users] Re: How to select all the text in the document

2011-02-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/25/2011 6:39 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 09:26 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:

How does one select all the text in an OOo document? Edit -  Select
All only selects the current table or table cell. Thanks.


  What you describe happens if the cursor is within one of the cells
of a table. (The entire table is selected when you do this.) Had the
cursor been outside the table Edit -  Select, the entire document would
have been selected.
  Now to answer your question. As you pointed out Edit -  Select
selects the current table or table cell. However, use Edit -  Select a
second time and the entire document is selected. (The first time the
entire current table is selected, and the second time the entire
document is selected.)
  Using Control-A key combination twice will also do what you want.

Dan


What I've seen is that this is only true if there is at least an empty paragraph before the table. 
And the multiple Ctrl-A (or Edit  Select All) also fails for me (LibO 3.3.0.5, OOo 3.1.1 on Win7) 
if there is no such paragraph. My test document is a 2x2 table, a very small text paragraph outside 
the table, and another 2x2 table. If the cursor is in the first table, or on the text line, the 
whole first table is selected with the first and all subsequent Ctrl-As.  If the cursor is in the 
second table, the first Ctrl-A selects that whole table; the second, and any subsequent ones, 
selects only the whole first table. When the test document is modified to have an empty paragraph 
before the first table, Ctrl-A on either outside paragraph selects the whole document; with the 
cursor inside either table, the first Ctrl-A selects all of that table, the second selects the whole 
document.

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[users] Re: RESOLVED Manual page breaks

2011-02-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/15/2011 2:49 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:

On 2/14/2011 3:00 PM, Stephen wrote:
I don't understand why a user with one simple issue/question needs to navigate their way through 
the entire OpenOffice.org website which, for my money is unnecessarily complicated.


I can't figure out how to remove or uninstall the dark page lines at the bottom of every page in 
the document. The insert menu won't allow me to do it, nor will anything in the paragraph menu.


Where can I look for a solution?

Zanichbug
step...@gwi.net


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quoted.]

Check Format  Page, Borders tab. is there a line shown under the gray box in the User-defined 
area? If so, click on that so it disappears, and the lines should go away.


Stephen and I worked off-list on this. It turns out that the lines were coming from the fact that 
most (but not all!) of the *paragraphs* were set to have a thick bottom border (why? who knows?) but 
with the 'Merge with next paragraph' option set, only the bottoms of pages and the final paragraph 
showed the line. The whole thing was in the Default paragraph style. Displaying that style showed no 
bottom border, and applying the style did not change anything. However, selecting the whole 
document, modifying the style to apply a bottom border, accepting that, then modifying the style 
again to have no bottom border, removed them all.

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[users] Re: inquiry

2011-02-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/23/2011 6:42 AM, Seymour Fine wrote:

I've installed OO 3.2.1 but don't see it in startprograms (win 7).  What am I 
missing, please?
S. Fine


Did you perhaps download the file, but not actually double-click it to run the installer? You should 
have seen dialogs during the installation process about unpacking the files and then proceeding with 
the rest of the installation.

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Re: [users] Enquiry on license issue

2011-02-20 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/18/2011 6:25 AM, Ng Keng Peng wrote:

Dear Sir / Madam,

I am a home user for openoffice software. I understand that it is free to
use the software.

However, I have a question. I want to introduce to my friends to use it in
their office (commercial use).
I need to know if it is free to use it in the commercial setting. Do they
need a license (legal) copy or
what ? Or, just download the free copy and use it ?

Kindly advise pertaining to the above.

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,
Keng Peng, Ng


[The OP (kpn...@gmail.com) is not subscribed and probably will not see responses unless directly 
copied.]


Use is not restricted -- you are definitely encouraged to share at will, regardless of the nature of 
the user's environment. You can check the specifics of the licensing at

http://www.openoffice.org/license.html

By the way, the users on this list are volunteers who help each other out when we can -- no need for 
formality!


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Re: [users] Fw: Internet connection

2011-02-20 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/18/2011 9:27 AM, ken kempka wrote:

Is there some reason that I’m not getting a reply to my inquiry???
From: ken kempka
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:15 PM
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: Internet connection

I’m using OfficeSuite2010 since Nov.’10, and when I prepare a document, try to 
e-mail it, no matter what option I select I get an error message that there is 
no open connection to the internet available.  Now, I purchased this 
specifically to send document via e-mail, and I can’t get anything to work.  I 
use Windows Live Mail, and Win7..   The search section(support) is useless in 
this matter.
Thanks
Ken Kempka

kenkem...@roadrunner.com


[Ken (kenkem...@roadrunner.com) is not subscribed and probably will not see responses unless 
directly copied.]


On Windows systems, the File  Send e-mail options use whatever mail client is the system default. 
Is that set up properly? (You have to run as Administrator to set it.)


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Re: [users] Fw: Internet connection

2011-02-20 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/20/2011 1:51 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 20/02/2011 19:42, Barbara Duprey wrote:

On 2/18/2011 9:27 AM, ken kempka wrote:

Is there some reason that I’m not getting a reply to my inquiry???
From: ken kempka
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:15 PM
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: Internet connection

I’m using OfficeSuite2010 since Nov.’10, and when I prepare a document, try to e-mail it, no 
matter what option I select I get an error message that there is no open connection to the 
internet available.  Now, I purchased this specifically to send document via e-mail, and I can’t 
get anything to work.  I use Windows Live Mail, and Win7..   The search section(support) is 
useless in this matter.

Thanks
Ken Kempka

kenkem...@roadrunner.com


[Ken (kenkem...@roadrunner.com) is not subscribed and probably will not see responses unless 
directly copied.]


On Windows systems, the File  Send e-mail options use whatever mail client is the system 
default. Is that set up properly? (You have to run as Administrator to set it.)


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But I don't think he's using OOo. See 
http://www.amazon.com/ValuSoft-73198-Valusoft-Office-Suite/dp/B002ALTRDS or

http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/catalog_type_page/ProductCode/91559 for 
example.


Right, he apparently got ripped off -- I didn't read carefully enough!

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Re: AW: [users] Publisher File Conversion

2011-02-17 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/17/2011 10:32 AM, Hans Eisenhardt wrote:

My question is regarding Microsoft Publisher. I have version 2000 .pub but
cannot open a newer version with it nor with open office. Do you see a
possibility to help?

Hans


As you've discovered, Microsoft intends for you to upgrade whenever they release new versions, and 
OOo has no read/write capability for pub files. I think you can still download a trial copy of 
Publisher, then capture the content through cut-and-paste into a document in OOo. Writer and Draw 
both have capabilities that might satisfy your requirements, depending on what you need to 
accomplish. A quick Google search also turned up another possible solution, though I have no 
experience with it:

http://blog.zamzar.com/2008/01/25/convert-ms-publisher-files-pub-files-to-doc-pdf-odt-rtf-and-more/
Note the reference to odt -- that is the format native to Writer.

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Re: [users] [moderated]

2011-02-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/15/2011 2:50 PM, DOUGLAS BERKOWITZ wrote:

   If someone sends me a power point presentation how can I get to it and view 
it
using office.  I don't have power point on my computer.  I can't seem to be able
to get it.
Thanks 
Doug Berkowitz


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If you download OpenOffice.org (free from www.openoffice.org) and install it, it should be able to 
read these files and update them if necessary. There are sometimes some formatting or other 
differences, especially if there are audio effects across different slides. You can also get a free 
viewer, which does not allow updating the presentation, from the Microsoft website.


To get OOo to open these files when you double-click them, you may have to set the file 
association for your system, and possibly for your e-mail client. This can generally be done by 
right-clicking on a file and choosing Open With, then browsing to soffice.exe, and choosing the 
option to always use this program for this file type. Setting the association once for each of the 
PowerPoint types should then be all it takes. (Note that the MS viewer will override this if you 
install it later.)


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[users] Re: Re: [users] Uninstallation Problem in Win7 with OpenOffice 3.2.0

2011-02-15 Thread Barbara Duprey
If you have exited the QuickStarter, and Task Manager shows no soffice.bin 
process running, I don't
know anything else to check. Maybe there is a network connection? Hopefully 
somebody else on the
list will have a suggestion.

On 2/14/2011 8:01 PM, Edrick Chan wrote:
 Dear Barbara Duprey,

 Thank you for your help.

 I use the win7 and make sure the QuickStarter without the soffice icon. 
 However, the message of
 the Openoffice is still using currently or other user. And also, I checked 
 the service belong to
 the win7, their without the soffice running. What can I do? I had tried to 
 logon to the safe-mode
 and doing the uninstallation process, it still cannot work properly.

 Best regards,
 Edrick Chan

 
 *寄件人﹕* Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com
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 *主題:* Re: [users] Uninstallation Problem in Win7 with OpenOffice 3.2.0

 On 2/13/2011 10:53 PM, Edrick Chan wrote:
  Dear Sir / Madam,
 
  Recently, I would like to upgrade the Chinese (Traditional) Openoffice form
  3.2.0 to 3.2.1. However, it cannot success to upgrade it and prompt the
  Openoffice 3.2.0 is still using. BUT I check it again and again. It still
  cannot allow me to take the uninstallation process under the Win7. Although
  logon in safe-mode. it cannot do it. Please help to solve this problem.
 
  Many thank!
 
  Best regards,
  Edrick Chan

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 subscribed and probably will
 not see responses unless directly copied.]

 There are two things to check for. If you have the QuickStarter (in the 
 system tray at the bottom
 right of your screen), right click on that and exit it. Also, there may be an 
 old soffice.bin
 process running that you need to end (on Windows, use the Task Manager). Then 
 you can retry the
 uninstall/install, running as administrator.

 Please reply only to the list, so other volunteers here can help if this 
 doesn't solve your problem.



Re: [users] Manual page breaks

2011-02-15 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/14/2011 3:00 PM, Stephen wrote:
I don't understand why a user with one simple issue/question needs to navigate their way through 
the entire OpenOffice.org website which, for my money is unnecessarily complicated.


I can't figure out how to remove or uninstall the dark page lines at the bottom of every page in 
the document. The insert menu won't allow me to do it, nor will anything in the paragraph menu.


Where can I look for a solution?

Zanichbug
step...@gwi.net


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Check Format  Page, Borders tab. is there a line shown under the gray box in the User-defined area? 
If so, click on that so it disappears, and the lines should go away.


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Re: [users] Uninstallation Problem in Win7 with OpenOffice 3.2.0

2011-02-14 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/13/2011 10:53 PM, Edrick Chan wrote:

Dear Sir / Madam,

Recently, I would like to upgrade the Chinese (Traditional) Openoffice form
3.2.0 to 3.2.1.  However, it cannot success to upgrade it and prompt the
Openoffice 3.2.0 is still using.  BUT I check it again and again. It still
cannot allow me to take the uninstallation process under the Win7.  Although
logon in safe-mode. it cannot do it.  Please help to solve this problem.

Many thank!

Best regards,
Edrick Chan


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copied.]


There are two things to check for. If you have the QuickStarter (in the system tray at the bottom 
right of your screen), right click on that and exit it. Also, there may be an old soffice.bin 
process running that you need to end (on Windows, use the Task Manager). Then you can retry the 
uninstall/install, running as administrator.


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Re: [users] help inserting or copying graphics into text

2011-02-10 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/9/2011 2:44 PM, Carole Vosburgh wrote:
Hi there.  I need help - please!  I am trying to insert a graphic (either from gallery or one that I have put in the gallery).  The instructions say to click and drag or right-click and insert. 
  
When I do this, the image is represented on the text page as a box with an icon in the upper left corner and an anchor some distance away from the box.  I can't seem to get the program to actually put the image on the page.
  
Any suggestions?


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Try checking under Tools  Options, OpenOffice.org Writer, View -- make sure that in the Display 
options, Graphics and objects is selected. It generally is, by default, but having that off could 
cause this behavior. Does the graphic show up under File  Page preview (maybe after resizing the 
graphic container)?


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Re: [users] dofc files

2011-02-09 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/8/2011 1:54 PM, jhripak wrote:

hi,

i am lost
i am trying to open doc files.
can anybody help me?
please respond to:

ljfranc...@gmail.com

thanks


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OpenOffice.org ordinarily has no problem with opening those files, so we'll need more information 
from you in order to help. What operating system and version are you using? What version of OOo? 
Have you tried using File  Open and browsing to the file, or are you just double-clicking and no 
program (or a program other than OOo Writer) is starting? Is the document an attachment to an e-mail?


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Re: [users] Disable the auto opening of dialog boxes for tables and bullets in open office write.

2011-02-09 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/9/2011 8:44 AM, Filipa Andrade wrote:

Hi,

I searched but I didn't find how to disabled the auto opening of
dialog boxes for tables and bullets in open office write.
Every time I am writing a document and pass over a table or a
numbering section a dialog box opens. I don't want this to happen.

How can I disable it?

Thanks for your help.


Are you referring to the tooltips that are normally shown when you are hovering somewhere, or to the 
toolbars that appear when you click somewhere? For tooltips, go to Tools  Options, OpenOffice.org, 
General, and deselect the Help Tips option; but note that a lot of other things will be invisible 
then, too, like icon names. For toolbars, when one of these is showing either dock it to an edge 
(which means it will appear there rather than popping up in your workspace) or use View  Toolbars 
and deselect it (so if you want to see it again, you'll need to reselect it).


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Re: [users] Typing Cursor jumps to new location during typing!

2011-02-09 Thread Barbara Duprey
The other thing that has sometimes made my cursor jump is a low battery in a wireless mouse or a 
poor USB connection for a wired one. I'd expect that to hit you equally in e-mail and OOo, though.


On 2/9/2011 5:22 PM, Kathryn Darrah wrote:

I hope that users will report back whether this works  where to find a safe
copy.  I googled it and most links have yellow  red warnings from MyWOT.com

I haven't noticed the typing jump in OO.o but it's driving me crazy in
email.  And I'm very aware of my hand positions:  I'm NOT touching the
touchpad!

Kathryn


On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Gene Youngn2...@cfl.rr.com  wrote:


  On 2/9/2011 12:55 PM, JOE Conner wrote:


On 2/9/2011 7:40 AM, Alvan Sweet wrote:


To all users of Open Office 3,

When I type, my cursor seems to randomly move to a new location
causing my typing to be shown at areas that I do not choose!

Is there a correction for this problem! It makes my typing a horror
show, and very frustrating to use Open Office.

This software seems to be excellent, yet this problem will cause me
too much anguish!


This happens to me too, on my notebook computer. The touchpad driver
seems to be the culprit, as my desktop using the same OpenOffice.org
does not have this problem.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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There is a windows program called touchpad-blocker.exe wich purports to
temporarily disable the mouse touchpad while typing.  I ahve not used it as
I have yet to need it but I have read good reports on it.

--
Gene Young


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Re: [users] [moderated]

2011-02-08 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/8/2011 9:16 AM, G. David Dyer wrote:
I have had a terrible time addressing #10 (4 1/8 X 9 1/2) envelopes.  Of course, I have read the 
help section. I am now starting a search project on Openoffice.org introduction. I love the 
program, admire the through and flexible software but have found this a challenge.


Could you please direct me to the section of the appropriate document for 
consultation?

G. David Dyer


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There's a FAQ on this in the works:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/Printing/How_to_print_an_envelope_with_OpenOffice.org
(step 4 may need correction to #10 envelope, I think).

For more, there's
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/c/cf/0205WG3-PrintingExportingEmailing.pdf

This is an area where there can be issues between OOo and your printer driver, so it may take a bit 
of trial and error to get it right, but these will hopefully be a good start. If not, just let us 
know more about your operating system and version, your OOo version, and your printer. Somebody else 
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Re: [users] macro recording in OO spreadsheet

2011-02-07 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/6/2011 6:14 AM, Andre du Toit wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

The system I use is Windows XP home edition and OO 3.1.

I have created a database in a spreadsheet. Also a criteria and output range 
has been created as I have done Excel 2003.

In OO spreadsheet it works perfectly if I set the criteria and also get the 
correct output, however if I try to record these steps in a macro nothing works.

The macro seems to record and the macro name is displayed, but running the 
macro shows no output.

Am I doing something wrong?

Yours sincerely,
Andre du Toit


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directly copied.]


You might find this reference helpful, together with others you can find by searching 
openoffice.org macro recording (without the quotes). Some actions are not recorded, and maybe 
that's what's happening.

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Getting_Started/Sometimes_the_macro_recorder_fails

By the way, the volunteers on this list are just users like you, helping each other out when we can. 
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Re: [users] OpenOffice Base

2011-02-07 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/5/2011 5:22 PM, Faith White wrote:

I am trying to set up a data base for my clients. I can't figure out how to
use it. Are there any tutorials, instructions.

Thanks, Faith


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copied.]


The Getting Started with Base document is probably the best place to start. Here are links for a PDF 
and for the wiki document:


http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0110GS-GettingStartedWithBase.pdf
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Getting_Started/Getting_Started_with_Base

For a deeper look, quite a few people have found this helpful:

http://documentation.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=778expandFolder=778folderID=778 




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Re: [users] Product Support: Question

2011-02-01 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/31/2011 11:10 PM, Michael Adams wrote:

On Monday 31 January 2011 17:13, Jordan Grode wrote:

Hi. There is a serious problem with your software, Open Office Text
Documents, that has been bothering me for months. I cannot find an answer
on your website and on your help pages, so I would thankful if you can
answer my question. When I press the space button on the keyboard, the
cursor only moves one space. I can only move one space at a time without
pressing another character.  This problem is beyond annoying and
frustrating and it would be the greatest help if you can solve this problem
for me. Thank You so very much!!

Holding down the space key on the keyboard causes extra spaces to be inserted
but not visible until you type another character. Is this what you are
talking about? If so then you should not be using the space key to create
white space in this way. It is a bad word processing technique to get into.
If you come back later and edit one word before the white space in a
paragraph it upsets the rest of the paragraph.

On the top ruler are little marks like upside down 'T's. These indicate Tab
points. By pressing the Tab key the blinker jumps to directly below the
next one of these marks. Tabs are extra brilliant because you can set your
own anywhere on this ruler between thte margns just by clicking there and
this new custom tab spot overwrite these default upside down T points. Not
only that but you have minute control (hundredths of a centimetre) in your
placement of these tabs. For more go to help and type in tab.

HTH


On the other hand, if what somebody is really after is to keep things in neat columns, a table is a 
much better choice, especially if the document is going to be sent to somebody else. Tabs tend to 
wander around in different systems, and also changing fonts can mess everything up, as can needing 
additional vertical space for one or more of the components. Table lines don't have to be visible, 
and this gives maximum flexibility and maintainability. I've shown this to lots of people, and 
they're often surprised at how easy tables are!


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Re: [users] Fwd: confirm unsubscribe from annou...@openoffice.org

2011-01-31 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/31/2011 3:17 AM, James Graham wrote:

Hi All.

Sorry for the wide distribution, however, I have been trying for some time
to remove my email address from the OpenOffice list servers, however, due to
the complex configuration of my mail setup I am unable to do so.  I am
starting to get very frustrated with your list server setup.

The subscribed address is james.gra...@virtuallysafe.net.

In addition I can not find an appropriate contact on the OpenOffice website.


Can you please assist me by unsubscribing me or forwarding this message to
someone who can assist - please.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

James.


First, you have to send an unsubscribe to each list separately; I'd recommend the format 
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have gotten a Goodbye message. But the address being unsubscribed is not the one you say is the 
subscriber, but the one you used for this message, so you may instead have gotten a message that 
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Re: [users] openoffice ?

2011-01-31 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/31/2011 8:59 AM, Robert Allen wrote:

i simply wanted to see an example of a document - ANY DOCUMENT - in your program 
and after spending approximately 20 minutes of searching and finding nothing but 
explanations of how things work and how great things are could still NOT find a 
single example - is it necessary to have to go through the entire download  
installation simply to see an example of a document in this not really that open of 
an open office doc?


What do you want to see? There are quite a few different formats under the ODF standard (odt, ods, 
odg, ...) that can be used quite well with a number of different programs -- even the newer versions 
of Office (2007 SP2 and later) make an attempt at them, though not interoperably really with anybody 
else's ODF implementations, by their choice. That's what makes ODF a very open standard. If what you 
want is an odt file (the word processor's default output format), we can easily send you any number 
of them (or their corresponding PDF files), but if you have specific questions about whether 
particular features are supported you'd be better off asking about those directly.


The documentation available in PDF format on the site is extensive, and those document were produced 
by Writer in odt format and then exported to PDF.


If this doesn't address your question, I'm afraid you'll have to be more specific about exactly what 
you want to see.


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Re: [users] unable to download

2011-01-31 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/31/2011 8:46 PM, Harold Hauge wrote:

Downloaded from::

http://download.openoffice.org/index.html

You get there from openoffice.org by select download.

However is that site run by Oracle or by the new Document Foundation?  Since
Ocacle aquired Sun Microsystems and LibreOffice was started I not been sure
where to get it.   As long as it remains free there I'll stick to
officeoffice.org but if Oracle starts to charge I may go with LibreOffice.
At present it seems like they are the same.

Harold


That's the Oracle site. There are some differences, primarily that LibreOffice (with some of its 
heritage from the Novell Go-OO version as well as from OpenOffice.org) can handle some additional 
file types, like those from MS Works. The website for LibreOffice is www.libreoffice.org, you can 
start the download from there. It's just been released as a stable version 3.3.



On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:49 AM, James Knottjames.kn...@rogers.com  wrote:


RORY MACKAY wrote:

Hello Open Office people,

I would like to at least try Open Office and hopefully even contribute to
on
going development, however I can not download your software. I get a new
page
titled 404 - File not found. On that page are some suggestions, none of
which
work.

operating sys : win 7

any help ?

rory mackay

Where are you downloading from?  The OpenOffice.org site is
http://www.openoffice.org.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice does not open .ods and odt files.

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/29/2011 10:29 AM, Bert Severijn wrote:

Suddenly it appeared that my files ending with .ods and .odt are not opened 
anymore in Open Ofiice.
I am using Home Vista.

Can you help me to solve this error?

Kind regards,

Bert Severijn


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Either installing a recent version of Office (2007 SP2 or later), or something else, has apparently 
taken over those file associations and you'll need to reset them for OOo. This can be done by 
right-clicking on a file and choosing Open With, browsing to soffice.exe, and choosing the option to 
always use this program. Or use Control Programs, Programs, Default Programs, Make a file type 
always open in a specific program. Select the file type, use the Change program... button, click OOo 
if it's shown in the list of recommended programs, or expand the Other Programs (plus sign) if OOo 
is not shown and browse to soffice.exe if OOo is still not shown, or click it if it is there.


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Re: [users] Re: suggestion

2011-01-25 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/25/2011 2:25 PM, Twayne wrote:

In news:4d3c4c6e.6020...@krackedpress.com,
webmas...@krackedpress.comwebmas...@krackedpress.com  typed:

On 01/23/2011 07:42 AM, James Knott wrote:

michael thomas wrote:

Hello,

Open Office use to be a free alternative to Microsoft
Office, that did not hog up your computers memory. Now
its just a free alternative... To Bad!  I even tried re-install
with the 2 programs I really use. I saved a whopping 1 MB!

Would Be Nice To Only Download The Only Ones We Need
Without All The Fluff


One thing to bear in mind is that with OpenOffice, you
have a fully integrated package that shares a lot of
common code between the various applications.  This not
only saves disk space over separate apps, but also
improves function between the various applications.  As
one very basic example, you can, while in Writer, open a
spread sheet.  Also, while you can select individual
components, it's not recommened because, as you found out,
it won't save much disk space. It will also reduce some
function in what you do install.  So, bottom line, just
install the entire package.  After all, disk space is
extremely cheap these days.

Well, unless you computer is over 5 years old, you should
be able to use a 1TB drive.  They are running about $70 or
$80 right now.  I bought my system where 1TB was the
default drive.  I also bought an external USB/Firewire 1TB drive as well
to share between
my Vista laptop and my Ubuntu desktop.  Soon I hope to add a
second 1TB drive to my desktop for even more storage, since
I have the desktop filled us with 800 gig and almost the
same with the external one as my backup storage.

So, unlike companies like Adobe that requires 2 gig of
files space for just one of their packages, OpenOffice.org
used very little space, under 200 meg on a Windows system
[or at least the last time I installed it on my Vista
laptop].  As far as I remember, OOo installs needing much
less than MSO does.  Also OOo is much easier to use than MSO.

Another sdvantage to OOo is the much smaller file size that MS or other
editors of the sort produce. Check them out; it's worth it just for the
savings of space on the drive.


Is this still true with the newer filetypes from Office 2007? I'd expect them to be much closer in 
size, since they are XML based like the ODF types.


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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-23 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/22/2011 8:36 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:52:57 -0600
Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com  dijo:


On 1/22/2011 6:25 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for
entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by
default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I
do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the
characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a
lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I
could just figure out what they are.

I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo.
(Crash report already sent.)

I haven't had to deal with this, but how about an AutoCorrect that
substitutes the special character given a character pair (or triplet)
that would not ordinarily occur? I can remember long ago something
where if you typed u: (for example), it would create the umlauted u.

I thought of that, but I don't want AutoCorrrect to change the
combination all the time. What if I want to type:

1. The correct item for the task would be a: (a) frying pan, (b) stew
pot, etc.

In the above the a: would get converted to ä.


That's why not normally used is important. if you're willing to use a triplet, you could maybe use 
something like vbar as the first character, followed by the pair that designates the character.  Or 
if you're aware of the unwanted substitution right away, Ctrl-Z should get you back to the 
uncorrected text, since the substitution was the most recent action. Allchars, or something similar, 
is probably a better solution, though.



I found an extension called Compose Special Character, but it takes
almost as many keystrokes as just typing the Unicode value.

It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was
type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically
converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of
the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored.

I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I
find this surprising.


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Re: [users] corrupted file?

2011-01-23 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/22/2011 6:26 PM, ignasi gispert wrote:

Dear All,
Just when I was going to print out attached file, opennoffice just mada a loop by recovering 
recovery failed and appear again the recovering, etc etc.
Had the 3.1 openoffice verision.Suddently no file openned... I tried to desinstall office 3.1 but 
did not allowed me.
Finally I send to the bin the attached file and manage to install openoffice 3.2. Then all files 
opened but this one again and with the same

loop problem.
Windows XP.
Any idea?
Thanks for your help!
Rgds
igpi


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directly copied.]


You can avoid the loop by choosing Cancel instead of Start Recovery when you bring up OOo the next 
time after a failure like this. If you need to try recovering the file content from the corrupted 
file, you can unzip it and try putting the main document piece into an unzipped copy of a new file, 
then zipping that. May or may not work, though -- I hope you had a backup copy!


Re: [users] Creating a title page

2011-01-23 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/23/2011 1:00 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:

Restarting a thread:
(originally 'Page numbers and footers are being deleted' ...)
I wish to create a title page on a document of about 17 pages.
In response to the previous thread, I have received a lot of great
information, but still am not able to make progress.

So I understand that my goal properly speaking is to modify the
document so that the first page is a title page.
Given the instructions that I have received from you good people and
from the links that I have looked at:

1)I have tried to insert a manual page break following the first
page. Here's what I do:
Placing the cursor at the bottom of the first page, I choose
Insert -  Manual Break -  Default. It appears that the break is
inserted *but* a line is inserted into the next page. This is not
acceptable, but can be corrected (I think) by deleting the top line
of the following page.


When I do this, the cursor is at the beginning of a null paragraph; it's expecting the text for this 
page to be entered starting there, there is no actual content yet. If you had actual text beginning 
on the first page and flowing to the second, you don't need the manual break. If you had existing 
text that began on the old second page that was itself created by inserting a page break and you 
still want to have that begin the second page, just use the Delete key to eliminate the old page break.



I note also that the instructions at
http://doc.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_page_styles
Refer to a New Chapter style option. There is none in our copies
of OO.


I think the assumption was that you'd have created your own page style of that name. Could be 
clearer, though!



2)Setting the first page to the First Page style. Disturbing.
Here is what I do:
With the cursor on the botton of the first page, I pick
Format -  Styles and Formatting and get a popup window title
Styles and Formatting.
 From the five icons at the top left of this window, I click on
the second to the rightmost (tooltip says Page Styles) and
then I click on First Page. Nothing happens!


You need to double-click a style, not just click, to apply it. For pages (and paragraphs), the style 
is applied to the whole page (or paragraph) based on current cursor position; for character styles, 
you first need to select the text (or set the style, then enter the text).



And there is not
an OK button or any other type of commit button on this window.


The double-click itself is the commitment. The window is really a toolbar, not a dialog, so this is 
consistent with normal practice. (It can be docked to an edge, for example; I usually have it up and 
docked to the right edge.



Now, if I *Double Click* the Styles and Formatting window closes
and I now see that the status bar at the bottom of the page says
First Page but! Extra lines have been inserted and that is bad!
Although they can be deleted.


I've never seen any new paragraphs (extra lines) created by this action. I just checked with a test 
document and no such change occurred.



Furthermore, if I save the document,
and reopen it, the style for the first page has been reverted to
Default. Aargh! I am a programmer but unfamiliar with Word
Processors.


Again, I can't reproduce this behavior. If you could send me the file privately (or a 
non-confidential file that you have the same problem with) I'll see if I can determine what's 
happening. (I'm b...@onr.com.)



So to ask the first question:
Why are separate page styles not being saved?

NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the
recipient.

thanks


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Re: [users] Creating a title page

2011-01-23 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/23/2011 1:32 PM, RA Brown wrote:
On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote: 



snip
So to ask the first question:
Why are separate page styles not being saved?

NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the
recipient.

thanks


First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC?  If the later that is the problem as 
OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation.


Good catch, Andy! Tim, Word (at least prior to Office 2007, and therefore in the .doc format; not 
sure about the newer formats) has no concept of page styles, so that aspect of OOo can't be carried 
from .odt into .doc, and therefore is not there when you reopen the file in Writer (when there is 
again a conversion into .odt while Writer is working on the file). So you should stay with .odt 
until you send the document off. If they accept .pdf files, that will be the most reliable way to 
make sure they see what you do. Otherwise, you might want to get the free viewer from Microsoft so 
you can check the .doc file, since they're so strict about the formatting.


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Re: [users] Creating a title page

2011-01-23 Thread Barbara Duprey



On 1/23/2011 4:03 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:

* Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com  [110123 12:58]:

On 1/23/2011 1:32 PM, RA Brown wrote:

On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

snip
So to ask the first question:
Why are separate page styles not being saved?

NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the
recipient.

thanks

First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC?  If the
later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with
100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation.

Good catch, Andy! Tim, Word (at least prior to Office 2007, and therefore
in the .doc format; not sure about the newer formats) has no concept of
page styles, so that aspect of OOo can't be carried from .odt into .doc,
and therefore is not there when you reopen the file in Writer (when there
is again a conversion into .odt while Writer is working on the file). So
you should stay with .odt until you send the document off. If they accept
.pdf files, that will be the most reliable way to make sure they see what
you do. Otherwise, you might want to get the free viewer from Microsoft
so you can check the .doc file, since they're so strict about the
formatting.

  :) To make a long story short, the solution was reached by
   first saving to an .odt format. We found then that we could
save the finished product retaining the desired formatting.
 Now: I am trying to figure out how to delete all but the
 first 3 pages. on vim all I have to do is type `vgox'
blush  couldn't resist that one.

  thanks again and good tip on the pdf format


Put your cursor after the last character you want to keep; Shift-Ctrl-End to select to the end of 
the document; Backspace or Delete. Not too bad, is it?


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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-22 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/22/2011 6:25 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for
entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by
default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I
do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the
characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot
of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could
just figure out what they are.

I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash
report already sent.)


I haven't had to deal with this, but how about an AutoCorrect that substitutes the special character 
given a character pair (or triplet) that would not ordinarily occur? I can remember long ago 
something where if you typed u: (for example), it would create the umlauted u.


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Re: [users] Page numbers and footers are being deleted when document is saved

2011-01-22 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/22/2011 6:47 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:

Maddening problem here.
FYI: I only occassionally use the word processor. I am a programmer.
My wife is having this problem:
1)She creates page numbers for a document.
2)She creates footers for the same document.
3)She removes the page number on the first page.
She saves the document and when it is re-opened, all page numbers
and footers are gone!

What is going wrong here? I just numbered the pages in a two-page
document, saved it and re-opened it and the page numbers where still
there. Her document has 17 pages.

Looking forward to comments.
thanks


Page header and footer content are associated with the page style in effect when they are created. 
What's probably happening is that all the pages have the Default page style, so any change to the 
content while on any of the pages using that style get carried through to all other such pages. She 
needs to apply different page styles to the first page and the remainder of the document, then she 
can manage the header/footer content as desired for each independently. The easiest way to do this 
is to set up the whole document to have the page numbers, as she has before, then get the cursor 
onto the first page, bring up the Styles and Formatting dialog (F11), click on the page styles icon 
(fourth one at the top) and double-click First Page. That applies the First Page style to the first 
page, and that flows to the Default style (which has the page numbers) for the next page. That page 
will be numbered as 2, which is probably what is wanted.


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Re: [users] Multiple processes

2011-01-18 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/17/2011 9:28 PM, RA Brown wrote:

On Mon Jan 17 2011 18:30:09 GMT-0800 (PST)  Eustace wrote:
Is it only me, or do others also from time to time have first to open the Windows Task Manager 
and End multiple OO processes in order to be able to open the program?


emf



This is a known problem but know one seem to can tell what causes it. This mailing list and the 
forums are loaded with questions on this problem.  Most state that OOo will not start, why? the 
response for Windows users is Open Task Manager and kill any soffice.* that exist.


HTH


I seem to have had this problem only after something involving coordination with the file system 
(save, save as, auto-save, open, etc.) failed and OOo crashed. BTW, only the soffice.bin processes 
need to be ended, the soffice.exe ones associated with them end automatically.


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Re: [users] [moderated]

2011-01-18 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/18/2011 6:55 AM, Thomas Erdman wrote:

I downloaded the program and registered as a user.  Unfortunately, the notes
detailing my user name have become misplaced.  I did receive an email welcoming
me and indicating a second email would be sent with a password.  Never received
it for some reason.  I appreciate your service but need to find out what name I
used on registration.  It probably started with the letters ober


[Thomas (erdmant...@att.net) is not subscribed and probably will not see any responses unless 
directly copied.]


Apparently you got the program from somewhere other than the www.openoffice.org website, since no 
password is required to use the various applications (Writer, Calc, etc.). You can download from the 
site or a nearby mirror and use the program with no payment, registration, or password required (the 
installation process does ask for registration in order to gather some statistics; but this has no 
functional effect and can be skipped).


If this doesn't solve your problem, for instance if you paid for a version of OOo and expected 
support beyond what is provided free from the volunteers on this mailing list (and the others for 
OOo, the forums, and the extensive free documentation), I'm afraid you'll need to take that up with 
whatever organization collected your money.


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Re: [users] Fwd: openoffice 3

2011-01-15 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/15/2011 2:48 AM, Paul wrote:

These user type questions are best handled by the user list. Have forwarded
it there.

/paul

-- Forwarded message --
From: yogesh parmaryogesh_parm...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:58 AM
Subject: openoffice 3
To: users-ow...@openoffice.org


*Dear Sir/Madam,*


Those who see these messages are volunteers who want to help other users like themselves -- no 
formality is required. :-)



Just recently began to have difficulty with a fellow recipient who also uses
openoffice 3 in opening my *ODF* documents when I send it as an attachment
via e-mail, and they cannot open the file.


- *Could you please kindly advise me what I can do to over overcome this
when sending ODF documents as e-mail attachments so the recipient can open
it..?*


I can think of three possibilities here, there may be others. One, the selection to automatically 
append the extension (e.g., .odt) to your documents may have been from your saved file. In that 
case, you'll need to reselect it. Two, the recipient may need to reestablish the file association 
for the ODF filetypes to point to OpenOffice.org. This can generally be done by right-clicking on a 
file and selecting Open With, then browsing to soffice.exe; selecting the option to always use this 
program will let this be done only once for each type of file. Three, you may have saved the 
document with password protection (although the recipient would probably have asked you about this 
directly).


If the recipient also has Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 or later, or Office 2010, that provides some 
level of support for ODF formats. If the file associations lead there, there could be problems with 
interoperability, although they should not result in an inability to open the files.





- *Also if I wanted to save a openoffice document as a text, and not a
ODF, thus how can I do this..?*


To save in non-ODF formats, choose File  Save As, then select the appropriate filetype from the 
dropdown. Again, make sure that the automatic file extension is selected.




Greatly appreciate your kind assistance, and I look forward to receiving
your trouble shooting tips with aforementioned kind request.

*Kind Regards,*
*Mr. Yogesh Parmar.*



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Re: [users] Font question on Writer

2011-01-15 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/15/2011 3:13 PM, Susan W. Dunn wrote:

Hello,
This might very well be a Styles question, but I'm not exactly sure how
to apply Styles.

I downloaded Open Office 3.2 from Linux Mint 9 and when I installed it
wanted to default the font and font size to Times New Roman and size 12
on Writer.

My problem involves the quotation marks.  If I convert a document from
another font, I get the standard curly quote marks instead of the
mouseteeth.  These are not exactly the type of mouseteeth quotes
avaialable with say, Courier.  BUT when I open a blank or New text
document and begin typing speech (quotations), I do not get the curly
quote marks even though the document default font says Times New
Roman.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to begin/or re-setup Office
Writer so that the font remains as it should be consistently?

Many thanks.

Susan Dunn


Tools  AutoCorrect Options, Localized Options tab has the settings that are being used when you 
type a quotation mark; in this case, you probably need to select the Replace option for double 
quotes, making sure that the characters shown are U+201C and U+201D. Both styles of quotes are 
included in the Times New Roman font, and when the quotes are already curly they have the right 
character values, but when you're creating the text, you get the straight quotes that are the same 
before and after the quoted text.


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Re: [users] Re: [Bulk] Re: [users] How do I stop emails from users@openoffice.org

2011-01-09 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/9/2011 8:40 AM, James Boatwright wrote:

Mr. Brown,

I sent an Empty Message to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org; nothing back
yet...


If you have not yet gotten the confirmation message (it's usually very quick), chances are that it 
got trapped in a spam filter somewhere. It comes from a different address than the list messages 
(users-h...@openoffice.org rather than users@openoffice.org) and it also has some complex strings of 
characters that may make it look like spam to some filters. You can try whitelisting the users-help 
address at your ISP and in your personal filters, then try again.


If that still doesn't work, I'll try to help you off-list (b...@onr.com).



RA Brown1/8/11 11:15 PM


On Sat Jan 08 2011 20:47:49 GMT-0800 (PST)  James Boatwright wrote:

Fellows,

Please show me how to stop getting emails from users@openoffice.org

AND

How to Un-Register..



Thank you,


James H. Boatwright


Send an empty message to  users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org  to
unsubscribe from this mailing list.  You will receive a message back
that you have to reply to.  You will receive another message saying that
you have been removed.

For the oooforum.org you will have to go to www.oooforum.org and remove
your name from there.

For the comput...@corfyscorner.com  list you will have to visit their
site to find out as I have no information on them.


Hope this helps.



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Re: [users] Re: How do I stop/Boatwright

2011-01-09 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/9/2011 10:48 AM, Brewster Gillett wrote:

On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 08:40 -0600, James Boatwright wrote:

Mr. Brown,

I sent an Empty Message to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org; nothing back
yet...


Did * you * use * the* same* email address* under which * you *
were  * originally * subscribed?

Brewster


This is why I generally give folks the version that includes the e-mail address (with equals instead 
of at) -- that way it doesn't matter what address they send the message from. Also worth noting is 
that in any case, the confirmation reply can be from anywhere that gets the message.


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Re: [users] Using OOo for Word Docs

2011-01-08 Thread Barbara Duprey
Peter (bpru...@aol.com) is not subscribed and probably did not see this excellent response -- you 
might want to copy him.


On 1/8/2011 12:46 PM, Harold Hauge wrote:

Questions should include the version of OOo and the operating system version
you are running.

If you are using a version of Windows the confusion may be caused by the
extension of the file you are working with.  In windows the default is to
hide the extension of unknown files so your file may look like Document when
it is Document.doc.

In Windows you can use the Control panel Folder option to select the option
in View NOT to hide extenions.  I recommend it.

OOo will open the file and save it as a .doc file but you have the option to
save it as a .odt, the OOo native format.

If you have both OOo and MS Word installed you can set Windows so Explorer
will open .doc files with MS Word and .odt files with OOo.

see the following for a comparison.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Comparison-of-Document-Files-With-Doc-and-ODT-Extensionsid=5020814

Hope this helps.

Harold Hauge


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Dan Lewiselderdanle...@gmail.com  wrote:


On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 11:26 -0500, bpru...@aol.com wrote:

I may be missing something very basic, but how can I use Open Office

Writer

  to edit Word documents??

I looked at several pages in OO instructions but do not see what I need.
Help?

Peter

  Just open the Word document in Writer. Then edit it. Writer will
open and edit Word documents unless the file is marked as Read Only.

Dan



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Re: [users] Re: Trouble with OpenOffice finding email configuration

2011-01-08 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/8/2011 12:56 PM, PJH wrote:

Arnold N. Pollak - SignForce has written on 1/6/2011 12:25 PM:

Hi Folks

Hope you can help - or direct me to the correect place to get help.

I am running windows 7 with OpenOffice 3.2.1 and using Windows Live Mail for 
emailing.

When I click on the Document as email icon I get the following message:

OpenOffice.org was unable to find a working e-mail configuration. Please save this 
document locally instead and attach it from within your e-mail client

Please can anyone advise how to overcome this issue, preferablly without having 
to change from windows email which I like (yes I know that is not PC, but it is 
true)

Control Panel  Programs  Default Programs  Set Your Default Programs

Find Windows Live Mail (or whatever windows email is) and make it the
default for emails.


Arnold (arn...@signforce.co.za) is not subscribed and probably did not see this (BTW, the message 
said he uses Windows Live Mail).


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Re: [users] open office freezing

2011-01-05 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/4/2011 2:30 PM, brenda wrote:

Hi,

I have been a satisfied user of OO for three years.   This week it started to 
freeze and I can’t open my OO documents, or make new ones.  This started on 
Jan. 2nd at 2. pm.  My friend had the same problem at the same time and 
uninstalled and reinstalled the OO suite.

I am doing that too, and hope it works.

Thank you

Brenda Forster


[Brenda (brendam...@hotmail.com) is not subscribed and probably will not see responses unless 
directly copied.]


The timing aspect is interesting, but may not be relevant to the problem (how did you fix it so 
precisely? did something call your attention to the time?). If you are using a Windows system, the 
most common reason for a silent failure to open documents (that is, no error message) is that there 
is an old copy of the soffice.bin process running. If that's the case, use Task Manager to end any 
process of that name (which will also end any associated soffice.exe processes). OOo should then 
start normally. Uninstalling and reinstalling should not be necessary, though. A simple restart of 
your system should also work if you don't want to use the Task Manager.


If this doesn't help, please tell us what operating system and version you are using, and what 
version of OOo, as well as any error messages you are seeing.


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Re: [users] How to underline a blank line of text, such that it could be typed?

2011-01-02 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/2/2011 2:33 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

A user is making forms for herself and other therapists. These forms
will be printed, and to specify the place where text is to be typed
there are lines on the page, created with four dashes and one Enter
per line.

This works fine, but the original author wants to type out her forms
for herself, instead of filling in the printed ones. she has no
problem typing on the lines created with the dashes, but when the text
wraps a line the top line looses it's underline! How can she prevent
this from happening? Should she use a different type of line?

If I was unsuccessful in describing the situation, then here are steps
to reproduce:
1) In a new document press dash three times and press enter.
2) Now pres upArrow, enter, enter, upArrow, upArrow.
3) Now type a line long enough to wrap.


Thanks!


I think that's because the automatically generated line isn't a line-width paragraph of underlined 
characters, but an empty paragraph with a bottom border. (The behavior is controlled by the option 
to Apply borders under AutoCorrect.) If the supplied text wraps, the border stays below the whole 
paragraph. There really isn't a good way to get natural wrapping together with the border effect 
(that is, the appearance of multiple full-width lines with text above them), so far as I can tell.


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Re: [users] Re: Two questions about Impress

2011-01-01 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/1/2011 7:44 AM, Guy Voets wrote:

2010/12/29codyh...@comporium.net:

Please unsubscribe codyh...@comporium.net from open
office at once.  I'm getting emails from people
which should be going to your email.not to me.

Thanks
codyh...@comporium.net

To unsubscribe, e-mail:
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Apparently, you didn't subscribe with the address codyh...@comporium.net
but with another address, from which you will have to send the unsubcribe mail.
To determine the actual address that is subscribed to the list, look at a message received directly 
from the list (not as a copy) and expand the header. Ctrl-U might work, or check the help for your 
e-mail client. Find the Return-Path Header; it should look something like this:


Return-Path:users-return-212626-barb=onr@openoffice.org

The part between the hyphen after the message number and the at sign is the subscribed address (in 
its indirect form, with an equals instead of an at sign). Suppose it's cody=otherisp.com. Then send 
a message (from any address, not necessarily that one) to 
users-unsubscribe-cody=otherisp@openoffice.org; subject and content don't matter, just the 
address. You should very soon get a confirmation message at that address. Reply to that message from 
any address that receives it. The cancellation should be completed, and you'll get a Goodbye message.




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Re: [users] Question

2010-12-23 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/22/2010 12:31 PM, Marius Popa wrote:

Good evening! I am also Marius Popa and I want to know if OpenOffice.org
v3.2.1 is able to save .xps files. What format is better: XPS or ODF?


[Marius (marius.mar...@gmail.com) is not subscribed and probably will not see any responses unless 
directly copied.]


When you use any format except ODF, there is a conversion process that has to take place, and 
conversions always introduce the possibility of some problems. Beyond that, the best format is 
determined by the use you have for the files. If they are for your own use, ODF is definitely best. 
If you are sending the files to somebody else, and they don't have a program that uses ODF (and I 
don't include the support in MS Office 2007 SP2 and later), it depends on whether they will need 
to make changes or not. If not, exporting to PDF (not XPS) is the best choice; you and they will see 
the same document. If they do need to make changes, the best choice is generally the older MS Office 
formats for XP (etc.) systems, like .doc. Those have been around long enough that there's pretty 
general support for them. If you know the recipient has something that can use one of the other 
formats supported under Save As, you can use that if they may need to edit. (At this point, though, 
I wouldn't recommend RTF, the conversion has some known problems.)


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Re: [users] OOo Write - Letterhead for my Business Template

2010-12-19 Thread Barbara Duprey
You can adjust the size and position of the frame regardless of where it's anchored, it doesn't need 
to be contained physically within the header. You'll want the wrap set to in background too, of 
course, so it doesn't affect text placement. The only way I know to have something on every page is 
to have it associated with the header or footer; text area content can't be made part of the page 
style, I don't think.


On 12/19/2010 10:07 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:

That is a nice idea, but I need the frame to be positioned around the main
text body area.

Isn't there a way to edit the default style for a page to include a frame by
default on every page, similar to the Header / Footer ?

Thanks!

Amichai.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 21:47, Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com  wrote:


On 12/18/2010 9:52 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:


Hello all,

I am trying to create a template for my private business to serve me as a
letterhead.

I would like to have it on my Ubuntu box and write the documents using it
as
a template, as opposed to sending it to a print shop and have to find room
to keep thousands of papers

I was finally able to figure out how to use the shapes to create a rounded
frame around the body of the document (chose the rectangle with the
rounded
edges, pulled it over the entire area, set the color as invisible, wrapped
it to the page and set it as background).

It all worked well, except when I start a new page, it comes without the
frame...

Is there a way I can set a page frame with rounded edges and make it
behave
as the page itself (save it as a style or some such)?

Thanks!


You should be able to anchor the frame in a header or footer to make it
repeat on each page.

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Re: [users] Disappeared document

2010-12-19 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/18/2010 5:08 AM, cmsuijkerbu...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear sir/madam,

I am an user of Open Office and with great pleasure, but now I have a problem: This morning I 
wanted to open a document in Recently opened documents, and to my surprise, the box was empty, 
while yesterday-evening, when closing down my computer, it was full. So far, that is inconveniant, 
but no harm done, you just start te document by selecting Opening Document. However the most 
important document I use, however still in the Document box on my computer, I cannot open the 
document any longer. All other documents can be openend, but that one. Can you please help?



With kind regards,

Kees Suijkerbuijk,
Hoogerheide,
The Netherlands


[Kees (cmsuijkerbu...@gmail.com) is not subscribed and will probably not see responses unless 
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The document still is in your Documents folder, but when you double-click it, it doesn't open -- is 
that right? What happens instead? If there is an error message, please tell us what it is. If it 
just silently does nothing, you may have a leftover copy of OOo that is confusing Windows (assuming 
that's what you are running -- it would help to know what version, and also what version of OOo). In 
that case, you can use Task Manager to end any soffice.bin process that is running and then try again.


By the way, we're just other users of OOo who try to help each other using this 
mailing list.

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Re: [users] OOo Write - Letterhead for my Business Template

2010-12-18 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/18/2010 9:52 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to create a template for my private business to serve me as a
letterhead.

I would like to have it on my Ubuntu box and write the documents using it as
a template, as opposed to sending it to a print shop and have to find room
to keep thousands of papers

I was finally able to figure out how to use the shapes to create a rounded
frame around the body of the document (chose the rectangle with the rounded
edges, pulled it over the entire area, set the color as invisible, wrapped
it to the page and set it as background).

It all worked well, except when I start a new page, it comes without the
frame...

Is there a way I can set a page frame with rounded edges and make it behave
as the page itself (save it as a style or some such)?

Thanks!

You should be able to anchor the frame in a header or footer to make it repeat 
on each page.

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Re: [users] Question

2010-12-17 Thread Barbara Duprey
I'm afraid only that administrator can really help you. One of the other list members suggested that 
if OOo is running on a network and another user is using it (or appears to be) the same thing might 
happen. Anyway, I don't think we can help -- sorry. Depending on why you want to uninstall, there 
may be some alternatives, but they may not be not pretty! It would be best to figure out the 
specific admin policy that is involved and fix whatever is blocking the uninstall. Good luck!


On 12/17/2010 9:26 AM, m93s...@aol.com wrote:
I turned off Quickstarter, made sure that I used the same administrator that downloaded the 
program (which is only one), and made sure that everything openoffice was turned off. Unfortunatly 
it was still giving me the same response.

Thank you for answering back.
SM




-Original Message-
From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com
To: users users@openoffice.org; m93sara m93s...@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 16, 2010 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [users] Question

On 12/15/2010 4:13 PM,m93s...@aol.com  wrote:

  I am trying to uninstal OpenOffice but everytime I try it says: This
administrator has put policies in place that prevent uninstillation
  Why is that?

  Sara

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responses unless directly
copied.]

The same conditions that were used during installation will have to be used to
uninstall. If you are
your own administrator you'll need to run that way again when using Add/Remove
Programs (or the
equivalent) to uninstall. You also need to be sure that OOo is not running --
turn the QuickStarter
off if it's on, and use the Task Manager to end any soffice.bin process that is
running.

If you still can't uninstall, you can come back here with more information, such
as your operating
system and version, and we'll try to help.



Re: [users] Text colour

2010-12-17 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/17/2010 11:00 AM, WalterVB wrote:
How can I change the colour of a text in an odt-document ? When I click on the txt-colour icon, 
the text becomes brown, and choice of an other colour is not possible. Something seems wrong with 
my program.


The icon represents one color, but the other colors are available through the down arrow to the 
right of the icon. Select one of those, and the icon and selected text will change to that color. If 
you want additional text to use that color, you can select the text and then the icon.


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Re: [users] Question

2010-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/15/2010 4:13 PM, m93s...@aol.com wrote:


I am trying to uninstal OpenOffice but everytime I try it says: This administrator 
has put policies in place that prevent uninstillation
Why is that?

Sara


[Sara (m93s...@aol.com) is not subscribed and probably will not see any responses unless directly 
copied.]


The same conditions that were used during installation will have to be used to uninstall. If you are 
your own administrator you'll need to run that way again when using Add/Remove Programs (or the 
equivalent) to uninstall. You also need to be sure that OOo is not running -- turn the QuickStarter 
off if it's on, and use the Task Manager to end any soffice.bin process that is running.


If you still can't uninstall, you can come back here with more information, such as your operating 
system and version, and we'll try to help.


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Re: [users] Table break between first and second rows?

2010-12-15 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/15/2010 12:43 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:

  Barbara Duprey [mailto:b...@onr.com] replied to my query:


If I'm reading this right, your table is insisting on
beginning at the start of a page. Have you
checked the table's Text Flow properties to make sure that
the Break-Page-Before options are not set?

The box labelled Break is empty (intentionally, for exactly
this reason - although that's the default setting anyway),
so the four selectable options are grayed-out.

HOWEVER, the Page and Before options (even though
supposedly inactive) do have selection dots in them.
It's not possible to empty the selection dots without
filling the other two. Essentially, the designer of
table behavior seems to be asserting I will cause
a break. You can select which break, but you can't
select no break. I know what's good for you, better
than you do.  Leads me to assume the person is/was
a Microsoft employee  :-)
[Little bit of frustrated editorializing there.]


Interesting -- this is not true for me (Win7, OOo 3.1.1) -- the dots are filled but grayed out when 
the Break box is empty, which is fair enough, since a radio control is one of these rather than 
zero or one of these. They have no functional effect, because they are only evaluated 
conditionally on the Break being selected.


Have you tried defining a new table immediately after the prefatory text, then copying in the data 
and setting the rest of the properties you want, then deleting the original table? (Not selecting 
and copying the whole table, if there's something weird about the table definition it might carry 
forward.)



I have tried checking Break and then selecting
Page After - no change.
Well, the break does occur after the table, pushing
the table footnote to the next page, but the change
in properties has no effect on the _start_ of the table.

I also tried Column After, just to ensure that
Page was not selected, and not for any desire to
affect the column...  again, no affect on page break
before the table.

If I then un-check the Break box, the options become
gray, as-is... but later (after I close and re-open
the document) they are back to the 'defaults' that
they originally had.

snip

It sounds as if the property that's saved is the Break setting only, not the subordinate radio 
button ones, which may be strange but shouldn't really matter.


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Re: [users] Table break between first and second rows?

2010-12-14 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/14/2010 12:37 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:

A table extends over several pages.
How do you tell it to split/break
after the first content row, so that the
table can begin on a page with TONS of space?

This is a problem I had before, but never solved.
Encountered again in a 'new' doc.

A two-column table insists on starting at top of page 20,
leaving two lonely lines of body text at the top of page 19,
and the rest of page 19 empty.

The table has large-ish cells containing pictures,
so two or three rows will fit on a page.
The header row and first two content rows fit
easily on page 20. This implies that the header
and row 1 of content would fit easily on page 19,
under the two lines of body text... and still
leave empty space on that page.

But the table refuses to break after the first row.

I have tried Table Properties and individual
cell properties, as well as properties of
the text paragraphs within the cells.

I can't find a way to tell my table that it is
not merely OK, but actually desirable to start
following the most recent body text, and to
break conveniently between content row 1 and
content row 2.

Several reviewers have complained about the
bad layout and incompetent use of page
space.

Suggestions?

Windows XP Pro and OOo 3.21

  - kevin


If I'm reading this right, your table is insisting on beginning at the start of a page. Have you 
checked the table's Text Flow properties to make sure that the Break-Page-Before options are not set?


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Re: [users] Issues

2010-12-13 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/13/2010 10:54 AM, Karla Kallenberg wrote:

Hello,

I have some major problem with my docs that i write in the Oppen Office prog.
As u can see in the attatched file it allways appears ? % in the text when it is saved and opens 
upp again. How come, and how can as change it??


Best regards
Karla Kallenberg, if u may u can also reply in swedish.


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The attachment did not make it to the list -- generally those with the ODF file types (like .odt) 
are attached, so maybe this is a .doc file? Anyway, we can't see what it is you are describing. If 
you can't be more specific about what is happening, you'll need to put the document somewhere we can 
link to, sorry. It would also help if you told us what operating system and version you are using, 
and what version of OpenOffice.org.


Re: [users] Not able to download

2010-12-06 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/2/2010 7:30 PM, Frankyne Mouton wrote:

Please remove my email address from your database.

Thank you.


I've tried to help you before, but as I said this address (franky...@msn.com) is not the subscriber 
and you'll have to determine first what account that is. I'll help off-list (b...@onr.com).


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Re: [users] Re-installation Problems

2010-12-06 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/4/2010 11:06 PM, Sabrina Cabanlig wrote:

Hi i recently want to re-install open Office but Open Office says that I got to 
exit OpenOffice.org 3.1 and OpenOffice.org 3.1 Quickstarter. Before installing 
the Open Office I deleted every Open Office and started on the re-installing 
it.  It always give me the same message I try to go to the task manager on the 
precess tab to exit any thing that looks like OpenOffice so that I could end 
it's progress but I could not find anything that looks like open office to end.



Please help me with this major problem.


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The process to look for is soffice.bin -- do you see that? By the way, I hope you mean uninstalled 
rather than deleted -- simply deleting folders can leave a considerable mess behind.


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Re: [users] Emailing: ScreenShot009

2010-12-03 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/3/2010 12:00 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


On 12/01/2010 02:31 PM, Tony Layland wrote:

Hello, the attached error message occurs every time I open OpenOffice. How can 
I correct this
thanks


If you go to the directory specified (C:\Documents and Settings\Tony Layland\Application 
Data\OpenOffice.org\3\user\basic\Standard), OOo is trying to load a file named script.xlb. I 
assume that this file either contains an error or it does not exist and it is referenced someplace.


The corrective action depends on which as well as what other macros and/or you may have. For 
example, if you have no settings, you can delete (or rename) the entire 3 data directory (but then 
you lose all of your personal stuff such as macros you created. You can try to correct the error 
in the script.xlb file if it does exist. If the file does not exist, you could try to create one 
containing this:


?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE library:library PUBLIC -//OpenOffice.org//DTD OfficeDocument 1.0//EN 
library.dtd
library:library xmlns:library=http://openoffice.org/2000/library; library:name=Standard 
library:readonly=false library:passwordprotected=false

/library:library

or, perhaps this

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE library:library PUBLIC -//OpenOffice.org//DTD OfficeDocument 1.0//EN 
library.dtd
library:library xmlns:library=http://openoffice.org/2000/library; library:name=Standard 
library:readonly=false library:passwordprotected=false

library:element library:name=Module1/
/library:library


Tony {anthonylayl...@talktalk.net} is not subscribed, but I think he really 
should see this answer.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [users] Emailing: ScreenShot009

2010-12-03 Thread Barbara Duprey
John, the OP (Tony Layland) was not subscribed, so David sent him a copy of his own response -- but 
copied the list as well. so the subscribers saw it again. Sigh.


As has been pointed out *many* times, the current list management is far from ideal in the way 
unsubscribed users are handled. Until/unless a better way is developed and agreed on, though, we 
seem to be stuck with it. All the proposals made to date seem to have fairly significant flaws of 
their own.


On 12/3/2010 3:55 PM, John Brooks wrote:

I did receive it so obviously I am on the list. Please remove it.


On 12/3/2010 3:37 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 18:02 03/12/2010 +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote:

On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 11:37:28 AM -0500, David B Teague wrote:
Some of the folks on this list didn't think you are subscribed. If that's true, you won't have 
received this answer. So I have forwarded it to you.


David,

nothing personal, of course, but thanks for another proof of the OOo-users issues I recently 
summarized here:
http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/a-proposal-for-effective-volunteer-friendly-user-support-in-libreoffice/ 



May I quote?

'The absolutely obvious consequences are that: [...] volunteers come and go, but only the good 
but clueless ones that sincerely believe that this is a sensible strategy remain to provide 
support.'


That would be us, then?

;^)

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Transferring documents

2010-12-02 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/1/2010 1:20 PM, john mcdonald wrote:

Hello I just recently downloaded your office format.  I am have viewing problems
when I download Microsoft documents, which I have in my Yahoo mailbox.  I would
to know how can I fix this problem?  How can view my documents in their original
format?

Thank You Very Much


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directly copied.]


First off, what version of OpenOffice.org did you get, and where? Although there are sometimes 
formatting differences between MS Office and OOo (due to the proprietary nature of most MS formats), 
these are generally minor. What file extensions are causing you problems -- .doc, .docx, ...? What 
kinds of issues do you have?


Unfortunately, if you are using a recent version of OOo (I believe 3.2.1 is the current one) and 
having significant trouble, you'll have to use either MS Office (or the relevant application from 
it, like Word) or one of the free viewers that MS provides. You might then be able to copy and paste 
into an OOo document, perhaps with formatting elements already in place, to get an equivalent document.


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Re: [users] SERIOUS BUG IN OPEN OFFICE

2010-12-02 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/2/2010 5:46 AM, modestukasai sudukas wrote:

Hello,

Our company has insurance forms. It uses VB SCRIPTS witten with MS EXCEL 2003.
And we get an error when we tying to calculate. By persing on button 
(SKAIČIUOTI).
fault nr 1.png


Everything works perfectly on MS OFFICE SYSTEMS. What should we do?

PS: if you need, we can send you this document.

Than YOU,
modestuka...@gmail.com mailto:modestuka...@gmail.com


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What you've encountered is that OpenOffice.org uses a different scripting language, not Microsoft's 
Visual Basic, for macros. This can't properly be called a bug, it was a considered design decision 
-- whether for legal purposes or something else, maybe somebody else on the list will discuss the 
rationale.


As to what you can do, I think you'll either need to translate the macros into the OOo format, or 
continue using Excel. I'm including a quote here from the OpenOffice.org Migration Guide:


Macros written in VBA for Excel do not work in Calc and macros written in 
StarBasic for
Calc do not run on Excel. Re-writing of macros is required when moving 
spreadsheets
between either application.
Some additional resources for writing Basic macros include:
“Porting Excel/VBA to Calc/StarBasic”
http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/various_topics/VbaStarBasicXref.pdf
StarOffice 8 Programming Guide for BASIC,
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-0439
“Useful Macro Information for OpenOffice”, by Andrew Pitonyak,
http://pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
OpenOffice.org Macros Explained, by Andrew Pitonyak,
available from the publisher: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm or 
from
various online booksellers.
Andrew Pitonyak’s web site for OOo macros: http://pitonyak.org/oo.php


Re: [users] Not able to download

2010-12-02 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/2/2010 10:16 AM, Amy Joanning wrote:


I'm trying to download Open Office but I am getting this error:

Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include incomplete download and damaged 
media. Contact the installer's author to obtain a new copy.


Please advise.

Thank you,

Amy Joanning

YCamp Office Manager



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It sounds as if you have actually downloaded the file, but execution is reported as failing -- is 
that right? If so, the problem may actually be with your firewall/antivirus program. The first thing 
to try is checking the md5sum of the downloaded file against the one documented for the specific 
version on the www.openoffice.org website. The following link should help:

www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html

 If the md5sums match, you have a good download. To perform the installation, 
try the following:

  1. Disconnect completely from the internet.
  2. Disable your firewall and AV.
  3. Double-click on the downloaded file; you should get an installer that 
steps you through the
 process as needed.
  4. When the installation is complete, re-enable your firewall and AV.
  5. Reconnect to the internet.

If there is no match, you'll need to download again. Be sure to use the www.openoffice.org website, 
or an official mirror; there are some other sites, some of which are not especially noted for integrity.


Re: [users] Corrupt file

2010-12-01 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 12/1/2010 7:03 AM, Faramahem d.o.o. wrote:

Tel./Fax: ++381 11/3544-783
Mob.tel.: ++381 63/25-11-63
 From : Predrag ILIC
To : Open office
-
Dear Sir,
I have a problem ussing your program,
Need to open one very important file ( sxe ) and gets the next answer:

The file is corrupt and therefore can not be opened. Repairing option can not 
open too.
Pls help me with instruction how to open this file anyhow.

Thanks in advance for support.

With kind rgds,
Mr.ILIC


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What type of file is this? If it's a spreadsheet, that doesn't appear to be one of the valid 
extensions, although there are several similar ones. Under what program was the file created? If the 
extension should be something else, you can try renaming it and see if that helps. Also, you can use 
an unzip utility on the file. If it is any ODF filetype, there should be a content.xml file that 
contains your data and might be used in a recovery process.


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Re: [users] Calc Shifting Cell Contents [was issues]

2010-11-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
Had you meant to attach a file? Anyway, this is certainly highly unusual behavior, not at all what 
I've ever seen (admittedly, I'm only a very casual user of Calc). I built a simple spreadsheet with 
some empty cells and could not reproduce this behavior (Windows 7 64-bit, OOo 3.1.1). This is such 
an obvious and dramatic problem that there should have been tons of messages about it, and there 
haven't been any. So it seems likely that it's something about either your spreadsheet or your 
configuration that is causing this, and if you can supply the file we can at least see if any such 
thing happens for anybody else.


On 11/30/2010 12:52 PM, Frank Altamirano wrote:

I'm working on a HP, MS Windows 7 64bit and am working with OOs v3.2.1 and my 
issues are with Calc.

I'm setting up a very simple spreadsheet for a song list for church. Its just a basic list of 
songs and there corresponding versions in Spanish and Italian. Now most of column A is filled in 
(e.g. A48) but if a cell is empty to the left of it (e.g. B48, C48, D48) the following happens. 
After saving and reopening wherever there was an empty cell it would shift all cells to the left 
to fill in the empty cells, thus, messing up entire order. To temporarily solve the issue, so that 
i can actually save all they work i have put in, I found that if I just put a space bar 
character in all empty cells it would serve as a place holder and no cells would shift.

).
However, in testing the sheet again before sending it to you, I deleted some of the spaces from 
the empty cells, saved, closed and reopened... expecting the cells to shift, however, they did not.


The issue was reproduced on row 554 when i entered characters into A554, left B554 blank, and 
entered data into C554. Once I saved and reopened, the data that was C554 had shifted to B554.


Please help

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com 
mailto:b...@onr.com wrote:

On 11/24/2010 7:50 PM, Frank Altamirano wrote:

I'm having a major problem with my spreadsheet and i want to try to log 
on
to your site and its says it cant find my email then i go to software 
and
open the link from there to register and it says i can't because my 
email is
already registered. UUUGGHHH PLEASE HELP


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not subscribed and
will probably not see any responses unless directly copied.]

First, you should have no need to register or log on to the site -- if you 
got OpenOffice.org
from a site other than www.openoffice.org http://www.openoffice.org, that 
may be the
beginning of the problem. Registration is optional during the installation 
process, but has no
function operationally, it's just trying to get statistics about how many 
users there are.

If you describe your problem here, including what operating system and 
version, and what
version of OOo you are using, and as much as possible about the details of 
the problem and how
you've tried to solve it, the users on this mailing list will try our best 
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Re: [users] Recovery pages won't close

2010-11-28 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/28/2010 3:53 PM, Carin Gala wrote:

Hello would anybody mind telling me how to get off this mailing list?!
Mailing unsubscribe to: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org didn't work.

Thank you
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Re: [users] issues

2010-11-25 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/24/2010 7:50 PM, Frank Altamirano wrote:

I'm having a major problem with my spreadsheet and i want to try to log on
to your site and its says it cant find my email then i go to software and
open the link from there to register and it says i can't because my email is
already registered. UUUGGHHH PLEASE HELP


[Frank (frank.altamir...@gmail.com) is not subscribed and will probably not see any responses unless 
directly copied.]


First, you should have no need to register or log on to the site -- if you got OpenOffice.org from a 
site other than www.openoffice.org, that may be the beginning of the problem. Registration is 
optional during the installation process, but has no function operationally, it's just trying to get 
statistics about how many users there are.


If you describe your problem here, including what operating system and version, and what version of 
OOo you are using, and as much as possible about the details of the problem and how you've tried to 
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Re: [users] [moderated]

2010-11-21 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/20/2010 12:03 PM, PEP PETROCINE wrote:

Does OpenOffice.org allow access to WORD documents previously written and saved 
in WORD??

Word or MS OFFICE is not on the computer in question.

Thanks,
PepPetrocine
npetroc...@comcast.net


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copied.]

Yes, there is very good (but not perfect) compatibility between OOo Writer and Word. In most cases, 
Writer will be able to open and work with these files with little or no difficulty.


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Re: [users] Re: Re: Writer problem

2010-11-19 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 11/19/2010 10:22 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:07:15 +, I wrote:

 would not want to have always the same size at the front of
 every document.
   I suppose I could have them as the first 2 pages, then choose which
 to use...

Or, since you can have as many templates as you'd like, you could just set up 
another one. I'd
expect that the margins of the letter itself might be different if you are 
using a different
envelope, for example.

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[users] Re: reporting bug with openoffice calc

2010-11-19 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/19/2010 1:40 PM, John Connelly wrote:

I would like to report a bug with Openoffice Calc.
When using a macro to sort several pairs of columns it seems that the software doesn’t sort them 
independently.  It may be easier to see what I’m talking about by checking out the spreadsheet 
I’ve created and attached specifically to show the bug.
If I’ve reached the wrong person, please let me know who I can contact about a bug with OpenOffice 
Calc.

Thank you.
John Connelly


John, the folks on the users list can check this out, that's usually better than going directly into 
bug reporting. I'm not familiar enough with Calc and macros to help you with this, but I'm sure 
somebody on the list can. If you are not subscribed to the list, let me know and I'll tell you how 
you can follow the discussion there.


Example Spreadsheet.ods
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet
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Re: [users] User

2010-11-17 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/17/2010 12:14 PM, John Brooks wrote:

Please remove my email address from open office.


The users on this list have no authority to do that, sorry. Send a message to 
users-unsubscribe-jb4811=swbell@openoffice.org. The subject and content don't matter, just the 
address. You should very soon get a confirmation message. Replying to that should complete the 
unsubscribe, and you'll get a Goodbye message.


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Re: [users] Pagination and indexes

2010-11-17 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/17/2010 1:13 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

I am using 3.2.1 (downloaded from OOo) on Fedora 13 x86_64. I also use
Scribus for laying out books. However, Scribus does not (yet) have an
indexing feature.

I have discovered that using Adobe Reader one can open a PDF (as
exported from Scribus), then save from Reader as a text file. The text
file will have page breaks at the end of each page of the PDF. The text
file can then be opened in Writer, where Writer's indexing feature can
create the index. Once the index is created it can be saved as a
separate document and then imported into Scribus at the end of the
document.

The problem is the pagination. The text file does have a page break at
the point where each page of the PDF ended, but sometimes the amount of
text on a page in the PDF takes more than one page in Writer. Writer
then flows the text onto an extra page. For example, as an experiment I
opened an 11 page PDF in Reader, saved as text, and opened the text
file in Writer. In Writer it was 14 pages. The first page of the PDF
took about a page and a quarter, then Writer started a new page because
of the page break. The second page of the PDF all fit on one page in
Writer, but the third page took almost a page and a half so, again,
Writer added a page.

I'm trying to figure out some way to make Writer paginate only on the
page breaks and not create extra pages.


It sounds as if you're dealing only with text, and you're not going to need that once the index has 
been created. In that case, could you just set the font size small enough that the original text 
would always fit without flowing over the page boundary?


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Re: [users] Changing Presentation to Graphic [was changing OSes.]

2010-11-13 Thread Barbara Duprey
Rich, there are a number of ways to change a presentation into a series of pictures, but it would 
probably help if we knew what you were trying to achieve. For example, you could set up the zoom so 
the whole slide is visible, use Print Screen on each page, and use Paint (assuming you're using 
Windows) to crop the image to just the slide area and create the .jpg file. If what you are really 
trying to do is to create something that you could send to somebody else, and they could then look 
at it or print it and see your presentation without needing any kind of presentation program, your 
best bet would be to have Impress create a PDF of the presentation. (Nearly everybody either already 
has a PDF viewer, or will soon need one anyway.)


On 11/13/2010 12:53 PM, Rich wrote:

Who ever you are, I can't even spell Half of the words you sent me
much less trying to read it and understand it. I just asked a simple
question about how to change odp to jpg I'm not a computer wiz
Thank you
/---Original Message---/
/*From:*/ Bruce_Martin mailto:brucemarti...@gmail.com
/*Date:*/ 11/13/2010 1:38:42 PM
/*To:*/ users@openoffice.org mailto:users@openoffice.org
/*Subject:*/ Re: [users] changing OSes.
Dear Users:
1)As a generality: Hybridism of any kind has its upside and its
downside (law of opposites is eternal and ubiquitous.)
2)Versatility and complexity go hand in hand.
3)Therefore anything that contains a degree of hybridism; i.e.
Hybridism itself - has these pros and cons:
 3a)Pro: Hybridism brings the added versitility and capabilities
of each of its specialised and unique components,. This proportionality
also applies to the closeness of the inter-relations between the various
hybridised elements.
 3b)Con: The greater the degree of the hybridism, and the
greater the degree of close integration, the more complex it is to learn
and understand, as is necessary to extract the benefits.
Finally to me this appears to be simply common sense, so why do so many
have difficulty with it?
Using or changing from one OS to another is just an example of this.
Each one has its pros and cons, and even If I only used, say, Windows
XP,  I could sill use multiple installations on the same machine with a
single license to do things which I could not do with a single
installation. This is particularly true with Twain applications and
scanners or cameras that use specialised software and drivers, as one of
mine does.
On 11/12/2010 20:05, Mark C. Miller wrote:
 On 11/06/2010 02:05 PM, Twayne wrote:

 snip

  Most peope
 are happy with whichever OS they started with and don't think much about
 changing, whether that's good or bad I don't care; it's just a fact.



 Twayne`

 /snip

 It's called BDS -- Baby Duck Syndrome.  Just like a baby duck, most
 computer user imprint on the first OS they use.  And can become
 rather rabid about changing (that's part of a theory called Cognitive
 Dissonance).  Changing the imprint can be difficult, but it's
 possible.  I go back to MS-DOS and hated the thought of windows when I
 first saw it; I got better.  I  was pushed into the Unix world for
 awhile, but in reality I was thoroughly a Windows guy when I got a
 job teaching at a high school that was a Mac [infested!] environment.
 I stayed with my preference to Windows.  Then a friend introduced me
 to Ubuntu (I didn't start until 8.04), and I've not looked back.
 Still, I get on line with an old friend from time-to-time and re-hash
 those early days when we thought we were HS.

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Re: [users] Changing Presentation to Graphic [was changing OSes.]

2010-11-13 Thread Barbara Duprey
So there's an existing web page that can supposedly link to a presentation, but only if it is a 
graphic? That's strange. But if you use .pdf to .jpg conversion (without the quotes) as a search 
term, you'll see some things that could probably help. Have Impress create the PDF, then do the 
conversion, then upload. But there may well be restrictions on image dimensions and so forth that 
will further complicate the issue for you; without knowing more about the existing web page and its 
rules it's hard to help in any more detail.


(PS -- please use only plain text for your messages. Most mailing lists, including this one, 
strongly prefer it.)


On 11/13/2010 5:53 PM, Rich wrote:
I am sorry I didn't explain. I want to convert odp to jpg for a web page presentation  I try to up 
load the program from documents and the web page which I am uploading to will only allow gif or 
jpg cannot use odp it won't allow.

I want to upload so I can create a link to the presentation from the web page
hope it explains
Thanks
/---Original Message---/
/*From:*/ Barbara Duprey mailto:b...@onr.com
/*Date:*/ 11/13/2010 3:02:38 PM
/*To:*/ users@openoffice.org mailto:users@openoffice.org
/*Subject:*/ Re: [users] Changing Presentation to Graphic [was changing OSes.]
Rich, there are a number of ways to change a presentation into a series of 
pictures, but it would
probably help if we knew what you were trying to achieve. For example, you 
could set up the zoom so
the whole slide is visible, use Print Screen on each page, and use Paint 
(assuming you're using
Windows) to crop the image to just the slide area and create the .jpg file. If 
what you are really
trying to do is to create something that you could send to somebody else, and 
they could then look
at it or print it and see your presentation without needing any kind of 
presentation program, your
best bet would be to have Impress create a PDF of the presentation. (Nearly 
everybody either already
has a PDF viewer, or will soon need one anyway.)
On 11/13/2010 12:53 PM, Rich wrote:
 Who ever you are, I can't even spell Half of the words you sent me
 much less trying to read it and understand it. I just asked a simple
 question about how to change odp to jpg I'm not a computer wiz
 Thank you
 /---Original Message---/
 /*From:*/ Bruce_Martin mailto:brucemarti...@gmail.com
 /*Date:*/ 11/13/2010 1:38:42 PM
 /*To:*/ users@openoffice.org mailto:users@openoffice.org 
mailto:users@openoffice.org
 /*Subject:*/ Re: [users] changing OSes.
 Dear Users:
 1)As a generality: Hybridism of any kind has its upside and its
 downside (law of opposites is eternal and ubiquitous.)
 2)Versatility and complexity go hand in hand.
 3)Therefore anything that contains a degree of hybridism; i.e.
 Hybridism itself - has these pros and cons:
  3a)Pro: Hybridism brings the added versitility and capabilities
 of each of its specialised and unique components,. This proportionality
 also applies to the closeness of the inter-relations between the various
 hybridised elements.
  3b)Con: The greater the degree of the hybridism, and the
 greater the degree of close integration, the more complex it is to learn
 and understand, as is necessary to extract the benefits.
 Finally to me this appears to be simply common sense, so why do so many
 have difficulty with it?
 Using or changing from one OS to another is just an example of this.
 Each one has its pros and cons, and even If I only used, say, Windows
 XP,  I could sill use multiple installations on the same machine with a
 single license to do things which I could not do with a single
 installation. This is particularly true with Twain applications and
 scanners or cameras that use specialised software and drivers, as one of
 mine does.
 On 11/12/2010 20:05, Mark C. Miller wrote:
  On 11/06/2010 02:05 PM, Twayne wrote:
 
  snip
 
   Most peope
  are happy with whichever OS they started with and don't think much about
  changing, whether that's good or bad I don't care; it's just a fact.
 
 
 
  Twayne`
 
  /snip
 
  It's called BDS -- Baby Duck Syndrome.  Just like a baby duck, most
  computer user imprint on the first OS they use.  And can become
  rather rabid about changing (that's part of a theory called Cognitive
  Dissonance).  Changing the imprint can be difficult, but it's
  possible.  I go back to MS-DOS and hated the thought of windows when I
  first saw it; I got better.  I  was pushed into the Unix world for
  awhile, but in reality I was thoroughly a Windows guy when I got a
  job teaching at a high school that was a Mac [infested!] environment.
  I stayed with my preference to Windows.  Then a friend introduced me
  to Ubuntu (I didn't start until 8.04), and I've not looked back.
  Still, I get on line with an old friend from time-to-time and re-hash
  those early days when we thought we were HS.
 
 -
 Best Regards, Bruce Martin

Re: [users] open office 2009

2010-11-09 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/9/2010 3:45 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Den 2010-11-09 00:45:54 skrev Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com:


On 11/8/2010 6:25 AM, Bill McCarthy wrote:
HelloI installed the program as instructed on CD, but I have never found a way to actually 
RUN the program since there was NO operational icon created and all that comes up is the 
original install panel.

Bill McCarthy Pittsburgh, PA


[Bill (wbm5...@comcast.net) is not subscribed and probably will not see any responses unless 
directly copied.]


Yes he can, here: 
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=usersmsgNo=208667

A quick Google search took me there, anyone can do it.


It would be interesting to know your search term, but the main problem I have with the OOo archives 
is that there is no good way to reply there to requests for further information or clarification. 
The Nabble interface is better, but the typical user is not going to get there without help.






Best regards

Johnny Rosenberg





OpenOffice.org is normally installed from a file that is downloaded from www.openoffice.org, not 
from a CD, and it has release level numbers (like OpenOffice.org 3.2.1) rather than a name like 
this, so I don't know where you are getting it -- but there have definitely been releases this 
year. You may want to go to the site, if you can, and download the most recent stable version.


You say you saw an install dialog, which is also what you would see by double-clicking the file 
downloaded from the site. Did you not have directions to follow from there? On a Windows system, 
you should end up with a submenu for OOo in your Start menu, and probably also with a desktop 
icon and maybe an icon in your system tray.


If you let us know more about your operating system, where you are getting the file or CD, and 
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Re: [users] Re: [VOICENWS] SW: OpenOffice.org 3.2.0 GA released

2010-11-08 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/8/2010 12:39 PM, Phil Hibbs wrote:

cant help u

Whilst your enthusiasm is commendable, and I feel bad raising any
criticism against such a keen and helpful person, I suspect that if
everyone who could not help with a question were to reply saying so,
this list would be swamped with hundreds of such apologies.

Regards,

Phil.


Chances are very good that Weldon is an automated troll and not really a person -- messages like 
this show up periodically as responses to just about anything.


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Re: [users] Re: double-sided printing - bad problem

2010-11-08 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/8/2010 10:12 AM, Mike Scott wrote:

On 08/11/10 16:00, Twayne wrote:

In news:4cd80aef.7020...@scottsonline.org.uk,
Mike Scottm...@scottsonline.org.uk  typed:

Hmmm. Amazing how things come up together. While pondering
on book format in another thread, I've been supervising
a booklet my wife has been putting together. End game was
we needed to print about 20 pages, double-sided, ready for
binding.

Goodness knows what happened. The right-side pages printed
OK. Left side kept hanging - the best the system could do
was a timeout message from the printer (a Samsung laser).

There was no way I could get OOo to print the second sides
straight to the printer. I eventually used PDFCreator (a
print-to-disk driver), then printed them using Acrobat
Reader, so we've finished this job.

But I still have no clue what was going on. This was OOo
3.x under XP/SP2. The print queue showed spooling, then
spooling/deleted when I tried cancelling the job. A
reboot finally cleared the q (but the problem reappeared
when I retried); while OOo itself crashed horribly at some
point in the proceedings.

OOo? XP? XP fault badly handled by OOo? Who knows? :-{ But
it's irritating when you're doing a quick job for someone
else!!!

I don't know what the problem is, but if you're actually doing business, you
should get XP up to SP3.

re the non-print of the second side: Is that the odd or even pages?
Whichever it is, can you tell it to print all that one side, flip the paper
over and refeed, printing the other side?
I'm assuming you have a printer that prints on both sides automatcally?
It almost sounds like a driver problem than it does anything else so
perhaps a driver reinstall or update for the printer? I'm assuming you have
a printer that prints on both sides automatcally?

More information would probably help here.


Sorry, I thought the info was implicit.

(a) It's not business; my next upgrade path is SP2-ubuntu anyway :-)

(b) it's a single-sided printer - which is why I was doing right side
then left, so the paper could be fed back through manually.

(c) As to whether the pages are 'odd' or 'even', that's a matter of
definition, because the numbering restarts after the title and contents
pages, and OOo kindly supplied a needed blank page. If anything, I
suppose odd=right (which is where OOo forces P1 to be). OOo refers to
them as 'left' and 'right'.

I've never had this problem before, having done manually fed double
sided many times.

I suppose I really wanted to put the problem on record rather than look
for answers - I don't want to lay whole forests to waste debugging a
print problem :-)


I had a somewhat similar problem with inability to print (in my case, it was a silent failure and 
didn't hang the spooler, though). I eventually traced it to the use of a particular font; when I 
replaced that, it worked fine. It sounds as though you may also have seen the other issue I had -- 
OOo's print to PDF didn't honor the brochure setting in Tools  Options, and I also had to use 
PDFCreator.


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Re: [users] open office 2009

2010-11-08 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 11/8/2010 6:25 AM, Bill McCarthy wrote:

HelloI installed the program as instructed on CD, but I have never found a 
way to actually RUN the program since there was NO operational icon created and 
all that comes up is the original install panel.
Bill McCarthy Pittsburgh, PA


[Bill (wbm5...@comcast.net) is not subscribed and probably will not see any responses unless 
directly copied.]


OpenOffice.org is normally installed from a file that is downloaded from www.openoffice.org, not 
from a CD, and it has release level numbers (like OpenOffice.org 3.2.1) rather than a name like 
this, so I don't know where you are getting it -- but there have definitely been releases this year. 
You may want to go to the site, if you can, and download the most recent stable version.


You say you saw an install dialog, which is also what you would see by double-clicking the file 
downloaded from the site. Did you not have directions to follow from there? On a Windows system, you 
should end up with a submenu for OOo in your Start menu, and probably also with a desktop icon and 
maybe an icon in your system tray.


If you let us know more about your operating system, where you are getting the file or CD, and 
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