Re: Make install blows away startup files?

2003-03-30 Thread Kevin Brosius
Kendall Bennett wrote:
 
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 I have been mass compiling and installing multiple versions of XFree86
 onto a machine for compatibility testing (Red Hat 7.3 based, so I can use
 the GDB hacked up debugger ;-). However whenever I do a 'make install'
 from a freshly built 4.2.0, 4.2.1 or 4.3.0 (haven't done any ealier
 versions yet ;-), it always blows away something in the startup files so
 when I do a 'startx', all I get is a desktop with three console windows
 open (seems to be using twm as the window manager). If I copy all the
 files from the original Red Hat 7.3 /etc/X11 directory across, it starts
 up just fine using the GNOME desktop.
 
 Firstly, I don't know what file is being destroyed or replaced. Does
 anyone know what file is getting replaced? Secondly it seems to me that a
 'make install' should be non-destructive and should not be changing this
 file. I have not changed any of the defaults in the host.def file, so it
 seems to me that it is bug that after a make install over the top of an
 existing XFree86 install, XFree86 no longer functions the way it did
 before.
 
 Is there an option to fix this in the host.def file? If so, perhaps this
 should be the default option when doing a make install??
 
 BTW, I am using a script to symlink /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 for each
 version so I can switch between all versions with a simple command ;-)


Depends somewhat on how RH does X init.  You can look through startx and
xinit setup and see what's being changed.  I know on SuSE that 'make
install' breaks the KDM/xdm startup, and that they use a WINDOWMANAGER
environment variable in their X init pieces.  If you don't have that
variable set, then you'll get either no wm or twm.  But doing a source
install over your distro's install tree is really up to you to resolve.

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XML_SetDoctypeDeclHandler not found

2003-03-30 Thread Frank Liu
Apparently the libexpat that is included with my OS doesn't
have the function XML_SetDoctypeDeclHandler and I've got
errors like:

../../../exports/lib/libfontconfig.so: undefined reference to
`XML_SetDoctypeDeclHandler'

Can I simply comment out the `XML_SetDoctypeDeclHandler' line in
xc/lib/fontconfig/src/fcxml.c ?
Any side effects?

Thanks!
Frank

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Re: XFree86 host.def file questions

2003-03-30 Thread Kurt Wall
An unnamed Administration source, Kendall Bennett, wrote:
% David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
% 
%  I guess you must have read something to even know about the existence
%  of a host.def file.  I presume that it was misleading, and so should
%  be fixed.
% 
% Yes, I have the file that I printed out sitting on my desk! As it turns 
% out, it appears to be rather outdated and antiquated and I am not sure 
% exactly where I found it now. 
% 
%  I think that http://www.xfree86.org/current/BUILD.html is a
%  reasonable introduction to building XFree86, but suggestions for
%  improving that document are most welcome.  

[...]

% To solve this problem it would be great if someone added a new section to 
% the primary XFree86 web site titled something like 'Building XFree86 for 
% the first time'. It could have a paragraph describing how easy it is to 
% build XFree86, and then have a link to the BUILD.html file. If that was 
% available when I started building it again a few months back I think it 
% would have saved me a lot of time ;-)

How about: Special Edition Building XFree86 for the First Time for 
Compleat Morons in 24 Hours by Example Unleashed. ;-)

Kurt
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Re: XML_SetDoctypeDeclHandler not found

2003-03-30 Thread Matthias Scheler
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 03:19:14PM -0800, Frank Liu wrote:
 Apparently the libexpat that is included with my OS ...

That's your problem. XFree86 should use the bundled libexpat. Try to
find out why that doesn't work instead of patching XFree86 sources.

Kind regards

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[XFree86] Fatal error 104 upon starting x

2003-03-30 Thread Kevin W Chen
I recently installed Red Hat Linux 7.3 on my system, but X fails to
start up properly.  When X attempts to start up, it prints the
following message:

XIO: fatal error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 minutes remaining
[repeats 9 more times]
INIT: id x respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

Each time the XIO message pops up, the screen displays random color
lines/static on the screen, before stopping for 5 minutes.

Below are the config and log files:

/etc/X11/XF86Config:

# File generated by XConfigurator.athena.

# **

Section Files
RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
FontPath   unix/:7100
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
#NoTrapSignals
#DontZap
#DontZoom
EndSection

Section Keyboard

ProtocolStandard

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#Protocol   Xqueue

AutoRepeat  500 5

# Let the server do the NumLock processing.  This should only be 
# required when using pre-R6 clients
#ServerNumLock

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#Xleds  1 2 3

#To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, 
#RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

LeftAltMeta
RightAltMeta
   ScrollLock  Compose
   RightCtlControl

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.

#XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#XkbModelpc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#XkbModelmicrosoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#XkbLayout   de
# or:
#XkbLayout   de
#XkbVariant  nodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#XkbOptions  ctrl:swapcaps

# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
#XkbRulesxfree86
#XkbModelpc101
#XkbLayout   us
#XkbVariant  
#XkbOptions  

   XkbKeycodes xfree86
   XkbTypesdefault
   XkbCompat   default
   XkbSymbols  us(pc101)
   XkbGeometry pc
   XkbRulesxfree86
XkbModelpc101
XkbLayout   us
EndSection

# **
# Pointer section
# **

Section Pointer
ProtocolPS/2
Device  /dev/mouse
ZAxisMapping 4 5

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#Protocol   Xqueue

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice

#BaudRate   9600
#SampleRate 150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#Emulate3Buttons
#Emulate3Timeout50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#ChordMiddle

EndSection


# **
# Monitor section
# **

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section Monitor

Identifier  Panasonic E15
VendorName  Unknown
ModelName   Unknown

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

HorizSync   30-61

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

VertRefresh 50-90

# Modes can be specified in two formats.  A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.

# These two are equivalent

#ModeLine 1024x768i 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace

#Mode 1024x768i
#DotClock   45
#HTimings   1024 1048 1208 1264
#VTimings   768 776 784 817
#Flags  Interlace
#EndMode

# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.

# 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync

[XFree86] Problem with GUI

2003-03-30 Thread Satish Sharma
Hi, 

I am unable to go to the GUI environment in linux. It
directly goes to the shell environment even though I
selected GUI mode during installation. Also, 'startx'
command gives an error stating 'fatal server error, no
screens found'. It also gives that 

XIO: Fatal IO error 104(Connection reset by peer) on X
Server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known Processed)
with 0 events remaining.

Also, when I first installed Linux, it went to the
blue screens which has two  garbled values. After
pressing enter, it went to the shell environment and
it never went to that screen too. Also, let us know
the Video RAM for configuration.

Please help me to resolve this issue. I look forward
to your response.

Linux version: 8.0
Xfree86 version: 4.2.0
kernel-2.4.18-14 
motherboard: Intel 845
Display chipset: Intel (R) 82845G/GL Graphics
Controller
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 753s


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[XFree86] (no subject)

2003-03-30 Thread Argo Kangro


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[XFree86] Your buglist for The XFree86 Project's Bugzilla needs attention.

2003-03-30 Thread anderson
[This e-mail has been automatically generated.] 
 
You have one or more bugs assigned to you in the Bugzilla  
bugsystem (http://bugs.xfree86.org/) that require 
attention. 
 
All of these bugs are in the NEW state, and have not been touched 
in 7 days or more.  You need to take a look at them, and  
decide on an initial action. 
 
Generally, this means one of three things: 
 
(1) You decide this bug is really quick to deal with (like, it's INVALID), 
and so you get rid of it immediately. 
(2) You decide the bug doesn't belong to you, and you reassign it to someone 
else.  (Hint: if you don't know who to reassign it to, make sure that 
the Component field seems reasonable, and then use the Reassign bug to 
owner of selected component option.) 
(3) You decide the bug belongs to you, but you can't solve it this moment. 
Just use the Accept bug command. 
 
To get a list of all NEW bugs, you can use this URL (bookmark it if you like!): 
 
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Or, you can use the general query page, at 
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Appended below are the individual URLs to get to all of your NEW bugs that  
haven't been touched for a week or more. 
 
You will get this message once a day until you've dealt with these bugs!   
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[XFree86] Apple Cinema + Xfree86 + Birghtness

2003-03-30 Thread Matty
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the brightness on the 23 HD
cinema display? I have been parsing through the docs, but nothing
stood out. I attempted to adjust DigitalVibrance, but that did not
work. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Ryan


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[XFree86] Debian - Woody

2003-03-30 Thread Wong WK Jerry
Cannot run xwindows in Debian 3.0 Woody although my system works fine in 
Redhat 8.0

Please help.

Thanks

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Re: [XFree86] ATI 9000 Pro in Red Hat 8.0 with ATI drivers: Multihead has darkmonitor

2003-03-30 Thread Estevan Cedillo
What does it say the version of ATI Menu cfg
does say vesa because if that was case you did not complie it with the 
kernel source because this is were i got stuck.






From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [XFree86] ATI 9000 Pro in Red Hat 8.0 with ATI drivers:  Multihead 
has dark monitor
Date: 29 Mar 2003 20:59:20 -0800

I have managed to make use of a file generated by the fglrxconfig tool
provided with the ATI driver download.  I can get an extended desktop,
but I cannot get my second monitor lit to show what is going on over
there on the second monitor.  I managed to get the XF86Config file
working by commenting out load dri in the modules section and the
BusID line in the card device section.
Does anyone have any idea how to get that second monitor working?

Here is the XF86Config file and my last log file.

# File: XF86Config-4
# File generated by fglrxconfig (C) ATI Research, a substitute for 
xf86config.
# Note by ATI: the below copyright notice is there for servicing possibly
# pending third party rights on the file format and the instance of this 
file.
#
# Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the 
Software),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included 
in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS 
OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#
# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **
# **
# DRI Section
# **
# **
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **
#
# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **
# **
# Server flags section.
# **
# **
# Input devices
# **
# **
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **
# **
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **
# **
# Other input device sections
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices.  This is for example only.  Refer
# to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options.
# **
#
# Section InputDevice
#Identifier  Mouse2
#Driver  mouse
#Option  Protocol  MouseMan
#Option  Device/dev/mouse2
# EndSection
#
# Section InputDevice
#Identifier spaceball
#Driver magellan
#Option Device /dev/cua0
# EndSection
#
# Section InputDevice
#Identifier spaceball2
#Driver spaceorb
#Option Device /dev/cua0
# EndSection
#
# Section InputDevice
#Identifier touchscreen0
#Driver microtouch
#Option Device /dev/ttyS0
#Option MinX   1412
#Option MaxX  

Re: [XFree86] Problem installinglinux-drm-4.2.0-kernelsource.tar.gz

2003-03-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Son, 2003-03-30 at 09:52, Prateek Mohan Dayal wrote: 
 I was trying to make the above file 

BTW, AFAIK the DRM that comes with the 2.4.20 kernel should work with
XFree86 4.2.0.

 but the process terminates with the error ... please help me
 
 the error is
 
 make: *** [gamma_drv.o] Error 1

That's not enough information, you'd have to provide the compiler
errors.

I assume you don't have a graphics chip with a Gamma though, so you
could try just building the driver you need with

make -f Makefile.linux driver.o


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[XFree86] [Bug 74] New: Screen is corrupted after lcd backlight turns of

2003-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
[This e-mail has been automatically generated.]  
 
http://bugs.xfree86.org//cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74

   Summary: Screen is corrupted after lcd backlight turns of
   Product: Drivers
   Version: 4.3
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: ATI
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


After the lcd comes back to life from a total lcd blank (backlight turns off)
the screen is corrupted. A suspend/resume cycle fixes the problem.

HW:

Thinkpad T30 with Radeon Mobility M7 LW (from posts on the net it seems that
this affects at there very least all Thinkpad models with the Radeon m7)

SW:

Both 4.2 and 4.3 seem to have this problem.

Another odd thing is that xset dpms force off does not turn the back lighting
off (my understanding is that it is supposed to).

Let me know if you need more information.

/Sam



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Re: [XFree86] Problem with GUI

2003-03-30 Thread Paul
It would help to help you if you would provide some information.  The
GUI is provided by the program XFree86 which uses a configuration file
usually called something like XF86Config.  If you could post that file
and the log file created by XFree86, it could provide a lot of
information about what your problem is.  Also, you could tell who
distributes your version of Linux and what version of the distribution
it is.  Some examples of distributaions are Red Hat 7.2 or 8.0, Mandrake
7.0 and so on.  Distributions are a clue as to where these files might
be found.  In Red Hat 8.0, they are found in /etc/X11/ and /var/log/,
respectively.

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 02:01, Satish Sharma wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 I am unable to go to the GUI environment in linux. It
 directly goes to the shell environment even though I
 selected GUI mode during installation. Also, 'startx'
 command gives an error stating 'fatal server error, no
 screens found'. It also gives that 
 
 XIO: Fatal IO error 104(Connection reset by peer) on X
 Server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known Processed)
 with 0 events remaining.
 
 Also, when I first installed Linux, it went to the
 blue screens which has two  garbled values. After
 pressing enter, it went to the shell environment and
 it never went to that screen too. Also, let us know
 the Video RAM for configuration.
 
 Please help me to resolve this issue. I look forward
 to your response.
 
 Linux version: 8.0
 Xfree86 version: 4.2.0
 kernel-2.4.18-14 
 motherboard: Intel 845
 Display chipset: Intel (R) 82845G/GL Graphics
 Controller
 Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 753s
 
 
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[XFree86] [Bug 75] New: S3Savage4 Problems in XFree86 4.3

2003-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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http://bugs.xfree86.org//cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=75

   Summary: S3Savage4 Problems in XFree86 4.3
   Product: Drivers
   Version: 4.3
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: blocker
  Priority: P2
 Component: Other
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I just spent several hours trying to install Mandrake 9.1. I kept getting a
message that told me that the graphics needed to be configured. O.K. It found my 
Optiquest Q71-5 monitor, my S3Savage4 graphics card, and that the card had 16MB
of video RAM. It suggested that I run it at 1024x768 at I think 24 bpp (?). But
all I got was a washed out, distored screen  that had two solid bars that looked
aprox. llike this: I I. which was just off to the side of the x but which
followed the x when the mouse was moved. I re-loaded the software but this time
ran it without the graphics mode at init3 where I gave the command: X -probeonly
The following message appeared: 

Using config file /etc/X11/XFree86Config-4
Using vt7
(EE) SAVAGE(0): Failed to fetch any BIOS modes. Disabling BIOS.

It should be noted that between installs I re-installed Mandrake 9.0 which has
XFree86 4.2 it it loaded with no problems. The second I re-installed Mandrake
9.1 with XFree86 4.3 the problem returned, as did the above message.

Any ideas??? This could be a killer for people running S3/Savage based video
cards.



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[XFree86] troubles with redhat linux 8.0

2003-03-30 Thread vin-tin



I installed redhat 8.0 on my PC
IBM Netvista M42 8307-2g
graphic card :intel 82845g
monitor samsung SyncMaster 172b
Running startx I received the linked 
output
Please can you help me?
Waiting for your answer
 
Vincenzo Lenti


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[XFree86] [Bug 76] New: Missing pixel column on LCD with radeon7500

2003-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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http://bugs.xfree86.org//cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=76

   Summary: Missing pixel column on LCD with radeon7500
   Product: Drivers
   Version: 4.2
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: ATI
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I am running xfree86 4.2 on a debian unstable (2.4.20 kernel) with a ATI Radeon
7500 card and a Belinea 101730 flat pannel (resolution 1280x1024). The pannel is
connected with a dvi cable to the digital port of the graphics card. 
The 1024th pixel column is not displayed, which means that the 1023th pixel
column is directly followed by the 1025th column. 
This Problem does not appear under Windows OS. 
I was also able to observe this effect under xfree86 4.1.

A similar bug has already been announced on debian bug tracking
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2002/debian-x-200211/msg00199.html) but does
not seem to appear here.

lspci -v returns:
...
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon
7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Palit Microsystems Inc.: Unknown device 5157
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
Memory at f000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Memory at ef00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at effe [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
...


this is my XF86Config-4 file:

### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the
# ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file? in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section Files
FontPathunix/:7100# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

Section Module
LoadGLcore
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadint10
Loadrecord
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout de
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  radeon 7500
Driver  ati
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
VideoRam65536
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Belinea 101730
HorizSync   31.5-80
VertRefresh 56-75
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  radeon 7500
Monitor Belinea 101730
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   1
Modes   1280x1024
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   4
Modes   1280x1024
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1280x1024
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes   1280x1024
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1280x1024
EndSubSection
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Modes   

Re: [XFree86] Problems with changing resolution

2003-03-30 Thread Paul
I think I've figured this one out.  If you list the screen resolutions
(in the Screen section) with a higher resolution AFTER a lower
resolution, then the first resolution in the list will be the default
with the highest resolution in the list being the resolution of the
virtual display that always shows up under these circumstances whether
you asked for it or not.

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 08:54, Einari Lappo wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just got Mandrake 9.1 installed, but I'm having some troubles with X. I 
 have set my resolution to be 1280x1024, but I only get a virtual 1280x1024 
 screen while my actual screen resolution is only 640x480. When answering 
 no to xf86config's question do you want to use virtual screen... the 
 actual resolution is 800x600 (and the virtual 1280x1024). But I still can't 
 get it up to 1280x1024 or even 1024x768.
 
 Any suggestions...?
 
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Re: [XFree86] [Bug 75] New: S3Savage4 Problems in XFree86 4.3

2003-03-30 Thread Paul
Post your XF86Config file.  Just a hunch, but if you have a spare
monitor around, try another monitor.  If you don't, try entering the
Horiz and Vert frequencies yourself.  You might be able to get that
information from www.monitorworld.com.

Paul

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 08:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [This e-mail has been automatically generated.]  
  
 http://bugs.xfree86.org//cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=75
 
Summary: S3Savage4 Problems in XFree86 4.3
Product: Drivers
Version: 4.3
 OS/Version: Linux
 Status: NEW
   Severity: blocker
   Priority: P2
  Component: Other
 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 I just spent several hours trying to install Mandrake 9.1. I kept getting a
 message that told me that the graphics needed to be configured. O.K. It found my 
 Optiquest Q71-5 monitor, my S3Savage4 graphics card, and that the card had 16MB
 of video RAM. It suggested that I run it at 1024x768 at I think 24 bpp (?). But
 all I got was a washed out, distored screen  that had two solid bars that looked
 aprox. llike this: I I. which was just off to the side of the x but which
 followed the x when the mouse was moved. I re-loaded the software but this time
 ran it without the graphics mode at init3 where I gave the command: X -probeonly
 The following message appeared: 
 
   Using config file /etc/X11/XFree86Config-4
 Using vt7
 (EE) SAVAGE(0): Failed to fetch any BIOS modes. Disabling BIOS.
 
 It should be noted that between installs I re-installed Mandrake 9.0 which has
 XFree86 4.2 it it loaded with no problems. The second I re-installed Mandrake
 9.1 with XFree86 4.3 the problem returned, as did the above message.
 
 Any ideas??? This could be a killer for people running S3/Savage based video
 cards.
 
 
 
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[XFree86] Keyboard Macros in X

2003-03-30 Thread Randy Kramer
(If you think you've seen a question like this before, you probably have 
-- I've posted it in a number of places, including the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list with the mistaken notion that it was the one 
list that replaced all (or most) of the old XFree86.org lists (like 
xpert).  I've also posted this as a bug on the new Bugzilla -- IIRC 
it's number 43.)

I guess it's really a series of questions:

Does X have any facility to let you use keyboard macros (by that I mean 
the ability to assign a (arbitrary) string to a single (special) key 
(like ctrlalts) such that the string is entered into the current 
application when the key is pressed?

To the best of my knowledge, xmodmap will not let you assign more than 
one key(symbol) to a single keypress (I'm sure I have the terminology 
messed up, and I don't mean different keys for the various shifts, I 
mean a string of keysymbols to one particular shift.

Someone has suggested Xim might help me, and I'm sporadically reading 
about it, but I can't tell whether it's really an end user tool (I just 
have to assign strings to keypresses) or if it's a programming tool 
(using Xim, I could write things like an Xim server to help me).

Any input appreciated.

Randy Kramer
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[XFree86] [Bug 53] setxkbmap is misspelled as setxkmap in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/README.config

2003-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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http://bugs.xfree86.org//cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-30 15:27 ---
In addition, the model in some of the examples does not exist in 4.3 (did in 4.2 
though):


  Option XkbModel logicordless




For instance, logicdp can be used.




Note: This helped me find the correct model when searching, so I am not 
complaining...




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[XFree86] Linux 8 install fails on xfree86

2003-03-30 Thread James Bentley
Hi Folks,
Please see the attached log file.

I had a small disk running Linux 5.2.  I unsized the disk and installed 8.0 
with everything other than the disk and the OS version the same. When 
startx is executed a brief black screen appears then I get the command line 
prompt again.  If I reinstall the smaller disk with 5.2 all is ok.

Please let me know what I've missed or if this might be a bug. 

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Re: [XFree86] Fatal error 104 upon starting x

2003-03-30 Thread Mark Vojkovich
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/mouse
No such file or directory.

  Either that's the incorrect device for your mouse or
your kernel is not supporting your mouse.

Mark.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Kevin W Chen wrote:

 I recently installed Red Hat Linux 7.3 on my system, but X fails to
 start up properly.  When X attempts to start up, it prints the
 following message:
 
 XIO: fatal error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 minutes remaining
 [repeats 9 more times]
 INIT: id x respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 
 Each time the XIO message pops up, the screen displays random color
 lines/static on the screen, before stopping for 5 minutes.
 
 Below are the config and log files:
 

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Re: [XFree86] Apple Cinema + Xfree86 + Birghtness

2003-03-30 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On 30 Mar 2003, Matty wrote:

 Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the brightness on the 23 HD
 cinema display? I have been parsing through the docs, but nothing
 stood out. I attempted to adjust DigitalVibrance, but that did not
 work. Any thoughts?
 

   If I recall correctly, brightness on the Apple cinema display
is set through USB and has nothing to do with the graphics card
driver.  Perhaps somebody has a USB driver for it?  


Mark.

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Re: [XFree86] Problems with changing resolution

2003-03-30 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Einari Lappo wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just got Mandrake 9.1 installed, but I'm having some troubles with X. I 
 have set my resolution to be 1280x1024, but I only get a virtual 1280x1024 
 screen while my actual screen resolution is only 640x480. When answering 
 no to xf86config's question do you want to use virtual screen... the 
 actual resolution is 800x600 (and the virtual 1280x1024). But I still can't 
 get it up to 1280x1024 or even 1024x768.
 
 Any suggestions...?

   It either decided that it can't do those higher modes or
it just listed the lower modes first.  In the Subsection Display
in the XF86Config file, the Mode listed first is the one it
starts up in and the rest can be cycled through with 
ctrlaltnumberpad + or -.  If you want it to start in the
high mode you have to list it first.  If it's already that
way then it decided that it can't do those modes.  If it does
that, it will tell why in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log, but it's
usually because the Monitor specs in the XF86Config are too conservative.


Mark.



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[XFree86] radeon 8500dv aiw

2003-03-30 Thread Peter Hoogsteen



Hello,

I have an Ati Radeon 8500 All In Wonder 
DV.
In the past i used 'Option "CrtScreen"' in the 
monitor section in de XF86Config-4 file to make it work. But now i run Manadrake 
9.1 with xfree86 4.3.0, and i have no result on startx. I have also a TV 
connected wich does show nothing either.

Please help me out on this.

With kindly 
regards,
Peter Hoogsteen



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[XFree86] What is the Appeal of Transparency?

2003-03-30 Thread Randy Kramer
I see a fair amount of discussion about transparency one place or the 
other, and although it seems to be a nifty trick, what advantage does 
it provide, in what kind(s) of applications?

I recently installed Knoppix on one of my machines and kde 3.0.4 
apparently includes transparent (translucent?) menus.  It just makes 
the menus harder for me to read.  (I don't print all my correspondence 
on onionskin -- why would I want transparency?)

regards,
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[XFree86] intel i830m

2003-03-30 Thread Travis Knabe
I'm learning Solaris as I go; and was hoping to stick it on my laptop, but can't seem 
to get the video drivers just right with the intel 830m video card.  anyone had any 
luck as of yet?

Thanks

Travis Knabe
Systems Manager
Office: 503-838-8507
Cell: 503-551-4953

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[XFree86] [Bug 78] New: DRI locks up XF86

2003-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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http://bugs.xfree86.org//cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=78

   Summary: DRI locks up XF86
   Product: Drivers
   Version: 4.3
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: major
  Priority: P4
 Component: ATI
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm using XFree86 version 4.3.99.1 on a Radeon VE/7000 on Linuz 2.4.18 with the
radeon_resume patch (v8) applied to the XF86 source. I'm using gcc 2.95.3 and
glibc 2.1.3.

When I run the endgame screenhack from the xscreensavers collection and I move
the window around and resize it, I can get X to lock up completely. In order to
resolve the lockup, I need to log in from another machine and kill endgame. This
can occur with other programs, but endgame seems to be most capable. This did
not happen on XF86 4.2.0 but has happened since I've started to use XF86 CVS
builds and it occurs with the DRI project's tree, as well.

In case it might help, I notice that when I'm resizing the endgame window, for
brief periods of time, I will see things that were displayed recently on the
screen, like memory wasn't cleared when it was not needed anymore.

If any more information needed, please let me know.



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Re: [XFree86] Apple Cinema + Xfree86 + Birghtness

2003-03-30 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 04:26:29PM -0500, Mark Vojkovich scrawled:
 On 30 Mar 2003, Matty wrote:
  Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the brightness on the 23 HD
  cinema display? I have been parsing through the docs, but nothing
  stood out. I attempted to adjust DigitalVibrance, but that did not
  work. Any thoughts?
 
If I recall correctly, brightness on the Apple cinema display
 is set through USB and has nothing to do with the graphics card
 driver.  Perhaps somebody has a USB driver for it?  

Well, I can adjust it on the Mac using nothing more than ADC, so
presumably there's USB somewhere in there.

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Re: [XFree86] Apple Cinema + Xfree86 + Birghtness

2003-03-30 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Daniel Stone wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 04:26:29PM -0500, Mark Vojkovich scrawled:
  On 30 Mar 2003, Matty wrote:
   Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the brightness on the 23 HD
   cinema display? I have been parsing through the docs, but nothing
   stood out. I attempted to adjust DigitalVibrance, but that did not
   work. Any thoughts?
  
 If I recall correctly, brightness on the Apple cinema display
  is set through USB and has nothing to do with the graphics card
  driver.  Perhaps somebody has a USB driver for it?  
 
 Well, I can adjust it on the Mac using nothing more than ADC, so
 presumably there's USB somewhere in there.

   From the apple web page:  http://www.apple.com/displays/acd23/

 Apple Display Connector carries digital video, USB and power


Mark

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Re: [XFree86] Apple Cinema + Xfree86 + Birghtness

2003-03-30 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 06:27:38PM -0500, Mark Vojkovich scrawled:
 On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Daniel Stone wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 04:26:29PM -0500, Mark Vojkovich scrawled:
   On 30 Mar 2003, Matty wrote:
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the brightness on the 23 HD
cinema display? I have been parsing through the docs, but nothing
stood out. I attempted to adjust DigitalVibrance, but that did not
work. Any thoughts?
   
  If I recall correctly, brightness on the Apple cinema display
   is set through USB and has nothing to do with the graphics card
   driver.  Perhaps somebody has a USB driver for it?  
  
  Well, I can adjust it on the Mac using nothing more than ADC, so
  presumably there's USB somewhere in there.
 
From the apple web page:  http://www.apple.com/displays/acd23/
 
  Apple Display Connector carries digital video, USB and power

Yep. To clarify: presumably it uses USB to set the brightness.

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[XFree86] [Bug 74] Screen is corrupted after lcd backlight turns of

2003-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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http://bugs.xfree86.org//cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74





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Yes, the blanking is probably caused by the BIOS, so the screen garbage may not
actually be a XFree bug. I can probably turn of the BIOS initiated blanking, but
this leaves me without a alternative for turning of the back lighting (as I
mentioned before, xset dpms force off doesn't do it). Should I open another bug
report for that?

/Sam

PS. Anyone got any idea why windows doesn't have the problem? Different PM?



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Re: [XFree86] Modeline generators

2003-03-30 Thread Kurt Wall
An unnamed Administration source, Jesse Hutton, wrote:
% Does anyone know of a good modeline generator?  I have a Viewsonic P95f
% monitor (video bandwidth of 285Mhz), and I would like to see how it looks
% with a refresh rate of about 100 (and my video card is a Matrox G550) at
% 1280x960 resolution.

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Re: [XFree86] Linux 8 install fails on xfree86

2003-03-30 Thread Paul
Could you explain in greater detail what do you mean by unsized the
disk?  What is your hardware configuration and how was it different for
each installation?  Did you select everything when the package manager
came up in the Red Hat 8.0 installation?  If your hard drive was too
small, it might have ignored that and just installed what it could. 
I've also had X Windows problems trying to squeeze a big installation on
to a small hard drive.  It is possible to install XFree86 without any
windows managers.  In other words, the actual programs that give you a
GUI are not completely installed.  XFree86 does not do that.  Gnome,
KDE, twm and the rest are what do that.

Paul

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 13:01, James Bentley wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 Please see the attached log file.
 
 I had a small disk running Linux 5.2.  I unsized the disk and installed 8.0 
 with everything other than the disk and the OS version the same. When 
 startx is executed a brief black screen appears then I get the command line 
 prompt again.  If I reinstall the smaller disk with 5.2 all is ok.
 
 Please let me know what I've missed or if this might be a bug. 
 
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2003-03-30 Thread Asim Ansari








While loading Linux in Graphical Mode generates the error attached.
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[XFree86] [Bug 80] New: 4.3 freezes on SMP with xinerama

2003-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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   Summary: 4.3 freezes on SMP with xinerama
   Product: XFree86 Server
   Version: 4.3
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: Render
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ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


My XF86 v4.3 system locks up fairly soon after logging in - usually within
twenty minutes, once in only five seconds. I've been on 4.2 for a few months and
didn't have this problem - it only showed up when I went to 4.2.99.3 and 4.3.

When this occurs, the pointer still moves, but nothing else responds.  No keys
seem to have any effect, including Ctrl-Alt-Del and Ctrl-Alt-Bksp.  The pointer
will not cross display boundaries.

This seems to occur when I'm performing some kind of mouse action - moving a
window, resizing a window, pushing a button, traversing a hyperlink in a
browser.  If I just keep the focus on a single terminal window and just do
typing, it doesn't happen.

I'm using xinerama on a P3 SMP system with one head on a Radeon 7500 QW and the
other on 3dfx voodoo 3000.  I'm on a 2.4.17 kernel under the 4.2 system; the
problem has occured with either a 2.4.19 or 2.4.20 kernel under the 4.3 or 4.2.99.3.

Other things that may be clues: Occasionally things don't quite freeze, but
become very slow.  There have been times when I've tried to move a window, and
thought that the screen had frozen, only to find that the window had repainted
in the new location approx. 150-250 seconds later.  Once the window has
repainted, things return to normal speed. (until the next freeze)

I'm running a gnome desktop.  The problem has occured while running the metacity
wm, as well as sawfish.

One time I found this line at the end of the (old) log file after rebooting the
machine, repeated about twenty five times:

(EE) RADEON(1): Idle timed out, resetting engine...

I've included that log file below.  All the other times, no such error message
appeared.

--

XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19 i686 [ELF] 
Build Date: 30 March 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sun Mar 30 16:21:53 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(++) ServerLayout MainLayout
(**) |--Screen LeftScreen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Hitachi
(**) |   |--Device Voodoo3
(**) |--Screen RightScreen (1)
(**) |   |--Monitor Sony
(**) |   |--Device Radeon
(**) |--Input Device MainMouse
(**) |--Input Device NaturalKeyboard
(**) Option Protocol Standard
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) XKB: model: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(**) Option AllowMouseOpenFail
(++) Xinerama: enabled
(++) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000602c, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0691 card 147b,a204 rev c4 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8598 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 147b, rev 40 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 

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2003-03-30 Thread Asim Ansari








While loading Linux in Graphical Mode generates the error
attached. Please have a look and let me know how to resolve this.



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Re: [XFree86] Fatal Error Report!

2003-03-30 Thread Tom Wesley
You need to start your font server.

Tom

ps

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 While loading Linux in Graphical Mode generates the error attached.
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