[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-17 Thread Edward Falk
Now with that out of the way you can contact the owner of the site and ask them to remove your app. If they don't comply you probably will need to lawyer up to get any satisfaction and in the end you will probably not be able to collect. All you get is a lawyer bill. That's what the DMCA

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Blattman
and co-pilot is hacked and available for free also. i guess that didn't work. On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:13 AM, theSmith chris.smith...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be feasible to authicate the app with a google checkout number like copilot does? -- You received this message because you are

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread MakeMobile
On Jan 16, 2:46 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: MakeMobile wrote: I believe I've already answered the question of why Google would do something about this, but I'll say it again. Piracy damages the platform as a whole. Google cares about this kind of thing because it slows

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Wyszomierski
For what it's worth, the piracy issue was a real eye-opener for me when I released my first iPhone app. The app included a web service which simply logged an anonymous user ID on my site so I could distinguish between users. The ratio of paying to pirated users was staggering. After awhile I also

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread schwiz
shut one down 3 more pop up, its an unavoidable part of software development. On Jan 16, 10:13 am, MakeMobile makemobileinnovati...@gmail.com wrote: I stumbled upon this site offering 1000's of Android apps for free (including mine!).

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread MakeMobile
I've been in the business for quite some time, and I know that drill. But I do not accept your reply as a useful response to this problem. This problem is damaging to the entire development community as a whole as well as the forward progress of the platform. Few developers will be interested in

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread theSmith
I too would like to know if Google in particular is doing anything to help us developers out. As apps grow in popularity the more they are pirated and the harder to get them all taken down. Ideally there would be a spot for developers to submit pages that are hosting our apps illegally and

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Wayne Wenthin
My question is why would google do anything. These are your apps. You hold copyright not google. You have to do something. Unless you are finding Market or Maps on these sites google could care less and rightly so. Now with that out of the way you can contact the owner of the site and ask

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Greg Donald
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:09 AM, MakeMobile makemobileinnovati...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to know what Google is doing about this, and who to forward abuse complaints to. You must be new around here. Google doesn't do support. But good luck all the same. -- Greg Donald

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Tommy Hartz
I would suggest contacting the company and informing them of their infringement of your software. If they refuse to remove it you have the right to get a lawyer. Check out this site http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/ and on the right check out How to report intellectual property crime.

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Sekhar
Yeah, I believe iPhone has the advantage here since it won't even allow you to install apps from outside app store. That has its own negatives, but it at least protects the developers (and the consumers, actually). Until something like that happens, I'd try the traditional desktop software

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread MakeMobile
On Jan 16, 1:08 pm, Wayne Wenthin wa...@fuligin.com wrote: My question is why would google do anything.  These are your apps.  You hold copyright not google.  You have to do something.  Unless you are finding Market or Maps on these sites google could care less and rightly so. I believe I've

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread theSmith
Would it be feasible to authicate the app with a google checkout number like copilot does? On Jan 16, 1:55 pm, MakeMobile makemobileinnovati...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 16, 1:08 pm, Wayne Wenthin wa...@fuligin.com wrote: My question is why would google do anything.  These are your apps.  You

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Murphy
Sekhar wrote: Yeah, I believe iPhone has the advantage here since it won't even allow you to install apps from outside app store. That has its own negatives, but it at least protects the developers (and the consumers, actually). You would appear to be mistaken:

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Kevin Duffey
I got a question for you guys. Assuming you know how and have the means to set up a server.. why can't you have your app send a code or something to this server.. to verify its a valid copy. If the copy that is out on those hosting sites has the same code.. you can at least have your app hit the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread David Sauter
More importantly - do Android devices have unique hardware identifiers like the iPhone's UUID? David Sauter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread theSmith
@david I believe there must be, I know flurry assigns an unique id to each user, so I'm guessing its using a hardware identifier, I'm going to look through the docs now On Jan 16, 2:19 pm, David Sauter del...@gmail.com wrote: More importantly - do Android devices have unique hardware identifiers

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Murphy
David Sauter wrote: More importantly - do Android devices have unique hardware identifiers like the iPhone's UUID? android.provider.Settings.System, ANDROID_ID, is a unique ID per device. Note, though, that this is not stored in ROM, and so rooted devices can hack their ANDROID_ID. Also,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Murphy
MakeMobile wrote: I believe I've already answered the question of why Google would do something about this, but I'll say it again. Piracy damages the platform as a whole. Google cares about this kind of thing because it slows the progress of the platform as a whole. That is debatable. For

Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Ray Benjamin
While there are thousands of things you can do to make it more difficult for someone to pirate your application, they all come at the cost of making it that much more difficult for your user to purchase your application and/or make your application more fragile. Many anti-piracy methods keep

[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site

2010-01-16 Thread Sekhar
You would appear to be mistaken: