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2015-03-30 Thread Craig Tanner
GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple orchards and could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject U.S. apples as happened in past when wheat and rice crops were found to be contaminated by GMOs. A - See more at:

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2015-03-30 Thread maurice tougas
...@tannersorchard.com *To:* 'Apple-crop discussion list' apple-crop@virtualorchard.net *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again - *GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple orchards* and could potentially cause valuable

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2015-03-30 Thread dmnorton
://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com https://www.facebook.com/royaloakfarmorchard/ - Original Message - From: Craig Tanner To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again - GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic

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2015-03-30 Thread Ginda Fisher
/royaloakfarmorchard/ - Original Message - From: Craig Tanner To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again - GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple orchards and could potentially cause valuable

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2015-03-30 Thread Hugh Thomas
list' apple-crop@virtualorchard.net *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again - *GMO apples may contaminate nearby organic and conventional apple orchards* and could potentially cause valuable export markets to reject U.S. apples as happened

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2015-03-30 Thread Shoemaker, William H
, March 30, 2015 4:52 PM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again - I jsut read the last data from Facebook that indicates they have over 1.3 billion users! When I see the erroneous information that gets posted to the news feed on Facebook about GMO's, Monsanto

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-03-02 Thread Daryl Hunter
...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Hunter Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:09 PM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples Keeping with the Arctic Apple discussion. The Arctic Apple is supposed to be like

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-03-02 Thread Randy Steffens Jr
While we're speaking of amusing correlations, check out this one. Perhaps organic food also causes autism? :) http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/01/05/will-my-child-be-born-autistic-if-i-eat-gmos-a-scientists-view/

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-03-01 Thread Ginda Fisher
On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Jon Clements wrote: ... 6.) What ever happened to BST/BGH push-back and labeling? Ginda, I will let you look that one up. ... Jon I don't need to look that one up, because I've followed it. The differences between the milk and meat of BST/BGH-treated cows is

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread kuffelcreek
As a nurseryman with a stake in East Africa, I find the discussion fascinating. Here GMO is being used to slightly modify a cosmetic flaw in an apple for marketing purposes; where I work with in Uganda, it is being used to give resistance to plantain bananas to a devistating disease that is

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread David A. Rosenberger
Thank you, Kevin, for your comments on how GMOs are needed in many countries to ensure a reliable food supply. At our national plant pathology meetings last summer, we heard a keynote speaker, a female scientist from South Africa, address that same issue. In fact, she pointed out that

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Shoemaker, William H
I like your comment David, and I agree. I don't want to carry water for them anyway. All of these companies pay big money for the best lawyers and lobbyists. They need to help defending their actions. I take the position when pressed by folks who are not familiar with genetic engineering that

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Brian Heatherington
David, I think the easy solution at markets might be a variation of your last paragraph. Nice signage stating all of our apples are non-GMO. It could even turn out to be a plus in terms of direct marketing. Perhaps a good non-gmo sign will make the sale before I have to explain why I can't

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Mark Helen Angermayer
That's the thing, it seems to me, roughly the same arguments of implicit fear used against GMO apples are also used against conventional apple growers by organic marketing. I completely understand the frustration resulting from the short term focus of club releases, but it seems to me that is

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Ginda Fisher
On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:53 AM, David Doud wrote: Well, I have been to two social events since the GMO 'Arctic apples' have been in the news - and that is what people want to talk to me about - and pretty much only that... How are you all handling this? My personal opinions aside, I don't

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Arthur Harvey
: Subject: Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples To: Apple-crop discussion list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2015, 7:04 PM On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:53 AM, David Doud wrote: Well, I have been to two social events since the GMO 'Arctic apples' have been in the news

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread David A. Rosenberger
I can appreciate your frustration, David, and your “easy answer” gave me a good chuckle. I certainly would NOT attempt to relay the concepts in my last post to the average consumer while attempting to sell them apples. What would be the point? Most consumers arrive with very pre-concieved

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread David Doud
We have returned from attendance at our event and mercifully Arctic apples did not come up - likely because of the stimulating program that was enjoyed by a room full of scientists - David R., you state and ask I certainly would NOT attempt to relay the concepts in my last post to the

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Shoemaker, William H
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples Le 18:50 2015.02.26, vous avez écrit: I am not particularly excited about the advantages of Arctic Apples, although it will be interesting to see if they eventually play a role in expanding the shelf life of sliced apples. There was a discussion on those

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Daryl Hunter
Keeping with the Arctic Apple discussion. The Arctic Apple is supposed to be like no other apple in that they have turned off a gene so that it does not turn brown like all other apples. That statement is misleading since there are apple varieties/cultivars among the thousands of varieties

Re: [apple-crop] arctic apples

2015-02-26 Thread Jon Clements
At the risk of being my usual terse self: 1.) I would be a lot more worried about this http://www.the-open-mind.com/mit-estimates-half-of-all-children-autistic-in-10-years-due-to-monsanto-1/#fsWKjef2oeh3k4OW.01 (FWIW), and this