AW: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Oeztunali, Sebnem
... where I actually want to download the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent Viewing... Don't you just need to hit the play again button for subsequent viewing in a flash player? Mit freundlichen Grüßen Sebnem Öztunali Siemens AG Corporate Technology

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
Is the general idea now that the iPlayer migrate to be a Flash-delivered catch-up service and the archive be moved to Project Kangaroo? On 12/12/2007, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/12/2007, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asta la vista DRM debate I wouldn't be so

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and TV Anytime Feeds

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
Jonathan, Thanks for doing that, it's great. It certainly addresses the concerns I had before. On 13/12/2007, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Dec 2007, at 00:10, Adam Leach wrote: With the annoucement that iPlayer is apparently going live on Christmas day, are there any

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and TV Anytime Feeds

2007-12-13 Thread Ben Hall
Will it work on Vista? On 13/12/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, Thanks for doing that, it's great. It certainly addresses the concerns I had before. On 13/12/2007, Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Dec 2007, at 00:10, Adam Leach wrote: With the

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... where I actually want to download the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent Viewing... Don't you just need to hit the play again button for subsequent viewing in a flash player? Your hand held

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/dec/13/bbc.digitalmedia?gusrc=rssfeed=media On 13/12/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the general idea now that the iPlayer migrate to be a Flash-delivered catch-up service and the archive be moved to Project Kangaroo? On 12/12/2007,

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Andy
Nice to see the BBC have made sure that it doesn't run on Linux, or at least it doesn't run on this version. I get a nice blank grey screen. And a mouse hand with no indication of what it does. Clicking it informs me I have to enter into a legally binding contract[1]. A contract that states if I

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Sean DALY
Does anyone know, is the Flash-encapsulated video On2-VP6, or H.264? I suspect it's the latter but support for that is very recent and compatible players are certainly not widespread yet. I'm waiting for the day the BBC arranges Dirac encapsulation with Adobe. There was a precedent with the

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and TV Anytime Feeds

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Smethurst
Just to confirm that jonathan tweed has already done most of the work to make json and yaml representations of /programmes Once it's reviewed and checked in it'll go live. For the moment /programmmes doesn't have on demand availability data to reference the iPlayer downloads/streams but this will

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread nick richards
On 12/13/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... where I actually want to download the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent Viewing... Don't you just need to hit the play again button

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm waiting for the day the BBC arranges Dirac encapsulation with Adobe. There was a precedent with the special Real Player version a few years ago. The advantages for the Beeb would be fantastic particularly for simplified internal

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and TV Anytime Feeds

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
Both the Flash and P2P versions now work with Vista. I've tested them on Vista Business Standard, Home Premium and Home Ultimate. I guess I should really sort out a Vista Media Center version, now it can easily be done with a Flash embed! On 13/12/2007, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will

RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Jeremy Stone
James Cridland of this parish has also written a blog post here with a screenshot of it running on Ubuntu. http://james.cridland.net/blog/2007/12/12/iplayer-on-gnulinux/ BBC staffers still recovering from shock of near universal response of people now saying. iPlayer..its quite good. I might use

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Glyn Wintle
It does work on my Ubuntu. Adobe Flash Player 9 - Original Message From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:16:23 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Nice to see the BBC have made sure that it

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 13/12/2007, nick richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/13/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... where I actually want to download the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent

Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 07/12/2007, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stone free The Jimi Hendrix version. Smoke free All flights. fre The Tivo version. It seems the romance languages avoid the pitfall by sensibly having two words for the two ideas, just like for penguins. So I'm on a one-man campaign

AW: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Oeztunali, Sebnem
On 13/12/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you just need to hit the play again button for subsequent viewing in a flash player? Your hand held computers have flash players? My Nokia S60 phone does. There are a range of Flashes for mobile devices

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, nick richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your hand held computers have flash players? My Nokia S60 phone does. And with Flash Lite v3 (admittedly in 'developer preview' only at the moment) it supports YouTube so I don't see any reason why a UK located IP wouldn't be able to

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you just need to hit the play again button for subsequent viewing in a flash player? Your hand held computers have flash players? My Nokia S60 phone does. There are a range of Flashes for mobile devices at:

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Matt Barber
If you're using Opera Mini on the Lobster, it will route your traffic through a proxy, to cut down image sizes - this server is outside of the UK, is there a version of Opera you can get that won't cache the content off-shore? I think in the full fledged version (you have to pay but there's a free

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot understand anyoneelse not supporting flash; If I'd had a hand held and would want to watch anything on that small display: it wouldn't be anything else but 3min youtube videos. Why this repulsion against de facto standards?

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: De facto standards are typically undocumented, controlled by only one or two organisations, and patent encumbered. It's in this context that I think BBC Dirac in Flash would make sense for the BBC. The Macromedia Flash container started off

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Working on my install of Ubuntu to - as well as my Mac - which is the main thing! Watching Dr Who as I type :-) Joy. m On 13/12/07 13:14, Glyn Wintle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does work on my Ubuntu. Adobe Flash Player 9 - Original Message From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Cartwright
Get back to work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 13 December 2007 15:50 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Working on my install of Ubuntu to - as

RE: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Gareth Davis
The Solaris 10 11/06 machine sitting on my desk is also playing the streams. All it needed was the flash plugin downloading from Adobe. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist WS Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * 707NE Bush House, Strand, London,

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Sean DALY
Ogg is a container format, like QuickTime MOV and Microsoft AVI and ASF (WMV/WMA). I agree it would be great if browsers recognized the Ogg container and Theora/Vorbis cidecs natively, the way they recognize JPG and GIF c. Theora is great and there are powerful FOSS tools to transcode to it, for

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Richard Cartwright
On 13/12/07 16:24, Tom Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get back to work! Is iPlayer the BBC website killer? As Facebook is blocked in more and more workplaces due to the amount of time employees spend using it, will employees catching up with last nights TV at work cause bbc.co.uk to become

[backstage] Interview with Anthony Rose - Podcast

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Well it¹s podcast time again and yesterday I got the opportunity to speak to Anthony Rose - head of all things iPlayer here at the beeb. We managed to talk for several minutes before DRM was mentioned, but this is a great listen if you want to know a little about the man behind the future

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Watching Dr Who at the BBC is work! Honest. (I'm watching Have I Got New for You now) m On 13/12/07 16:24, Tom Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get back to work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 13

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Frank Wales
Matthew Cashmore wrote: Working on my install of Ubuntu to - as well as my Mac - which is the main thing! Watching Dr Who as I type :-) Joy. Doesn't yet work for everything on Firefox/Linux: Sorry, Gergiev Conducts Three 20th Century Greats is not available to play here. Presumably, this

Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live

2007-12-13 Thread Frank Wales
Richard Cartwright wrote: Is iPlayer the BBC website killer? As Facebook is blocked in more and more workplaces due to the amount of time employees spend using it, will employees catching up with last nights TV at work cause bbc.co.uk to become a blocked site too? If a company's staff are

[backstage] Podcast RSS feed

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Seriously you think this would have been easy here at beeb towers... But no... We¹ve been having a bit of an internal bun fight over getting the new site (which contains a proper solution for the podcasts) live. So. What we¹ve done is create a dedicated blip.tv channel for the backstage

RE: [backstage] Interview with Anthony Rose - Podcast

2007-12-13 Thread Toni Sant
Hi Matthew - Where's the feed to all you podcasts please? Cheers... ...t.s. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 13 December 2007 16:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject:

Re: [backstage] Interview with Anthony Rose - Podcast

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Toni Sant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where's the feed to all you podcasts please? More importantly, where is the Ogg Vorbis version or the original uncompressed audio from which to make Vorbis versions? And can we drop the NC restriction so that it can, for example, be translated

Re: [backstage] Podcast RSS feed

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
Thanks for sorting that. On 13/12/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously you think this would have been easy here at beeb towers... But no... We've been having a bit of an internal bun fight over getting the new site (which contains a proper solution for the podcasts) live.

Re: [backstage] Interview with Anthony Rose - Podcast

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Now available here http://bbcbackstage.blip.tv/rss m On 13/12/07 18:49, Toni Sant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew ­ Where¹s the feed to all you podcasts please? CheersŠ Št.s. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew

Re: [backstage] Interview with Anthony Rose - Podcast

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Sorry Dave - we can't drop the NC restriction... ...and we've talked about the Ogg Vorbis version before :-) Please do feel free to grab the MP3 and encode and make it available in any format you'd like! m ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media

Re: [backstage] Interview with Anthony Rose - Podcast

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13/12/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Dave - we can't drop the NC restriction... Please explain why :-) ...and we've talked about the Ogg Vorbis version before :-) Please do feel free to grab the MP3 and encode and make it available in any format you'd like! We did

Re: [backstage] Interview with Anthony Rose - Podcast

2007-12-13 Thread Steve Jolly
Matthew Cashmore wrote: Well it’s podcast time again and yesterday I got the opportunity to speak to Anthony Rose - head of all things iPlayer here at the beeb. Anthony also gave a pretty interesting talk at the IET's IPTV conference today - it's also on the web, albeit only (afaik) at the

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and TV Anytime Feeds

2007-12-13 Thread Jonathan Tweed
On 13 Dec 2007, at 12:41, Michael Smethurst wrote: Just to confirm that jonathan tweed has already done most of the work to make json and yaml representations of /programmes Fingers crossed for some time in January. We'll also have XML thanks to those who came to the talk at Barcamp.

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and TV Anytime Feeds

2007-12-13 Thread Jonathan Tweed
Thanks for the positive feedback. I've wanted the video on there since day one. I've written up how I added the player if anyone is interested in doing it themselves. http://jonathan.tweed.name/2007/12/hacking-the-iplayer-embedded-m Cheers Jonathan On 13 Dec 2007, at 12:00, Tom