Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk 1.8.12: No auto-generated citekey
> On 18 Sep 2022, at 15:59, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > > >> On 18 Sep 2022, at 13:35, Simon Spiegel wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2022, at 14:21, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>> >>> I think I finally found the problem. It has to do with a missing image to >>> notify the need for cite key generation, which leads to layout calculation >>> errors. This wasn’t fixed for the last nightly, but should be for >>> tomorrow’s nightly (BibDesk-20220916.dmg or later). Could you test that? >> >> This seems to fix the problem on the AirBook. I will later check with the >> Mac Studio. >> >> Thanks a lot >> >> Simon > > It should actually not depend on the machine. I finally was also able to > reproduce it. It only depends on whether you auto generate the cite key. Works everywhere. Thanks a lot Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch <http://www.simifilm.ch/> http://www.utopia2016 <http://www.utopia2016/>.ch „Etwas ist immer.“ Kurt Tucholsky ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk 1.8.12: No auto-generated citekey
> On 16 Sep 2022, at 14:21, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > I think I finally found the problem. It has to do with a missing image to > notify the need for cite key generation, which leads to layout calculation > errors. This wasn’t fixed for the last nightly, but should be for tomorrow’s > nightly (BibDesk-20220916.dmg or later). Could you test that? This seems to fix the problem on the AirBook. I will later check with the Mac Studio. Thanks a lot Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „Gute Typographie kann nie witzig sein.“ Jan Tschichold ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk 1.8.12: No auto-generated citekey
> On 15 Sep 2022, at 16:49, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > Could you perhaps try tomorrow's nightly builder later (it should be > BibDesk-20220915.dmg or later). I found a problem that may or may not be > related (but which was already there in various earlier releases, no idea why > it would create problems only now). Will do. Just to add another data point: I am seeing the exact same behavior on two other machines. These are all Apple Silicon machines (a Mac Studio, an iMac and and AirBook) running either 12.5.1 or 12.6. So it’s definitely a the problem of just one particular setup. Best Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!“ David Mamet ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk 1.8.12: No auto-generated citekey
> On 15 Sep 2022, at 15:37, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > > >> On 15 Sep 2022, at 11:58, Simon Spiegel > <mailto:si...@simifilm.ch>> wrote: >> >> Not sure if any of this means anything. >> >> Something else I noticed: When I got to help, I get a „The selected content >> is currently unavailable“. >> >> When I go back to 1.8.11, everything works fine. >> >> Simon >> >> > > > Most of the logs seem to be related to an app called CleverFiles, probably > monitoring BibDesk. Not with BibDesk itself. Although I see some messages > about problems with read permissions. But Bibdesk is not sandboxed, so that > is strange. I got rid of CleverFiles which was a leftover from an app called DiskDrill which I de-installed quite some time ago. > > Also strange that you can’t get the help, I also find no problems with that > either, I can just call Help. > > I get the impression that there is some permission/security problem. But I am > pretty sure Bibdesk is properly signed (Apple did accept it). Perhaps there > was a problem with the download of the app, reloading may perhaps fix the > problems. > > Apart from that, some questions: > 1. Is cite key generation from the detail editor or from the main window not > working, or both? It seems that the problem is only with the detail editor. Creating a cite key from the main window works. > 2. Are you sure the cite is not generated, or perhaps just the UI does not > update? Hmm. When I close the detail editor and re-open it, it displays the citekey. So it just does not seem to update properly. > 3. Do you have crossrefs or citation fields (fields that link to other items > by cite key)? Yes. But they are not related to the new entries. > 4. What is your cite key format? %P1:%Y%u1 As I said, everything works fine with last version. I attached some more logs. Simon default 16:06:49.212203+0200BibDesk Read (Async) options: 1 -- URL: -- purposeID: 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 -- claimID: E4151555-9BAF-40C7-827A-0DC837CA9A85 default 16:06:49.212248+0200BibDesk Write (Async) options: 0 -- URL: -- purposeID: 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 -- claimID: E4151555-9BAF-40C7-827A-0DC837CA9A85 default 16:06:49.226028+0200BibDesk Claim E4151555-9BAF-40C7-827A-0DC837CA9A85 granted in client default 16:06:49.226052+0200BibDesk Claim E4151555-9BAF-40C7-827A-0DC837CA9A85 invoked in client default 16:06:51.254812+0200BibDesk Asking presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 to relinquish to claim B644FF65-1F17-47C2-BB29-B780D12DB94F via relinquishPresentedItemToReader: default 16:06:51.254851+0200BibDesk Presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 relinquished default 16:06:53.252840+0200BibDesk Making presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 observe change default 16:06:55.886110+0200BibDesk Making presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 observe change default 16:06:57.099548+0200BibDesk Read (Async) options: 1 -- URL: -- purposeID: 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 -- claimID: BF24FD2A-0ADF-46B7-AF5C-53582486E6AE default 16:06:57.099711+0200BibDesk Write (Async) options: 0 -- URL: -- purposeID: 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 -- claimID: BF24FD2A-0ADF-46B7-AF5C-53582486E6AE default 16:06:57.121550+0200BibDesk Making presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 observe change default 16:06:57.121618+0200BibDesk Claim BF24FD2A-0ADF-46B7-AF5C-53582486E6AE granted in client default 16:06:57.121628+0200BibDesk Claim BF24FD2A-0ADF-46B7-AF5C-53582486E6AE invoked in client default 16:06:59.280492+0200BibDesk Asking presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 to relinquish to claim 3CF72E6E-B749-4E70-B417-B7870ED3 via relinquishPresentedItemToReader: default 16:06:59.280523+0200BibDesk Presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 relinquished default 16:07:01.625041+0200BibDesk Making presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 observe change default 16:07:04.350356+0200BibDesk Making presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 observe change default 16:07:05.894357+0200BibDesk Making presenter 0E971189-2F55-469F-BBBE-C2F559233232 observe change default 16:09:09.031804+0200BibDesk NSScanner: nil string argument default 16:09:10.287772+0200BibDesk *** Assertion failure in -[NSLayoutConstraint _setSymbolicConstant:constant:symbolicConstantMultiplier:], NSLayoutConstraint.m:669 error 16:09:10.288423+0200BibDesk NSLayoutConstraint constant is not finite! That's illegal. constant:nan firstAnchor: secondAnchor: error 16:09:10.289763+0200BibDesk ( 0 CoreFoundation 0x00018d805148 __exceptionPreprocess + 240 1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00018d
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk 1.8.12: No auto-generated citekey
> On 15 Sep 2022, at 08:27, Simon Spiegel wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m having issues after updating to version 1.8.12. > > First, when I create a new entry with Cmd+N, the entry gets created, but the > window won’t pup up as it used to. > > Second, although I didn’t change anything about the settings, citekey > autogeneration does not seem to work anymore, > > Help appreciated Correction: Citekey generation seems to be completely broken. Even with Cmd+K, nothing happens. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.“ Jebediah Springfield ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] BibDesk 1.8.12: No auto-generated citekey
Hi, I’m having issues after updating to version 1.8.12. First, when I create a new entry with Cmd+N, the entry gets created, but the window won’t pup up as it used to. Second, although I didn’t change anything about the settings, citekey autogeneration does not seem to work anymore, Help appreciated Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall down an open sewer and die.“ (Mel Brooks) ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk slowdowns
> On 3 Feb 2021, at 14:48, Fischlin Andreas > wrote: > > Dear Simon, > > This is now more of a feeling than anything else and I might be totally > wrong. But what you describe now sounds to me like a particular system setup > problem. > > As a first step towards nailing it down, why do you not boot your Mac into > safe mode (Start up your Mac in safe mode - Apple Support) and check out > whether the problem is gone or not. If yes, this means it is your system > setup and not BibDesk. I see this on three different machines. And while none of them is brand new, I think they should all be capable of handling a database of this size. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „This too shall pass.“ Tom Hanks ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk slowdowns
> On 3 Feb 2021, at 12:00, Fischlin Andreas > wrote: > > Dear all, > > I almost daily work with a large bib file that contains currently 5347 > entries, admitted this is only half the size of Simon's. I see no such > obvious delay during regular work. I notice for certain AppleScripts, e.g. I > have one searching for duplicates after an import, that has become a bit slow > with the growing size of the bib file. But that is rather due to the nature > of that particular algorithm, I have chosen to use than a fault of BibDesk. > > I would look out for what activity triggers slow responses, what user events > etc. I cannot confirm that BibDesk has noticeably slowed down in general only > because of large bib files. I was first also worried about the growing size > of my default bib file and was always positively surprised how fast BibDesk > generally still behaves. As always, once you try to nail it down, it suddenly stops. Seriously, it’s definitely a thing, but I don’t see a pattern. It seems to happen often when I’m in a different application, say a browser, copy something there and then switch to BibDesk to paste it into a field. Then I will often get considerable lags – though not always, and it also happens in other situations. I am no programmer, so maybe this is all wrong, but it seems to me, although 9000 entries is quite a number, it’s really nothing in terms of memory. The .bib file is something over 9mb, and according to Activity Monitor, BibDesk uses ~410mb of memory, which isn’t a lot compared to many other common programs. Simon-- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „This too shall pass.“ Tom Hanks ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] BibDesk slowdowns
Hi everybody, for quite some time now I’ve been experiencing considerably lags when editing entries in BibDesk, this is particularly noticeable in fields where BibDesk is suggesting autocompletion. My .bib file has more than 9000 entries, maybe this is too much? I am not sure when it started, whether it happened with the update t a new version or after reaching a certain number of entries. What I can say is that I see this on machines of quite different ages. Any suggestions? Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „For there is always light / If only we’re brave enough to see it / If only we’re brave enough to be it.“ Amanda Gorman ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Move from Dropbox to iCloud
Hi everyone, for years I have been relying on a setup where BibDesk would autofill all my publications to a Dropbox folder; this has worked well, but now my Dropbox is reaching its capacity limits and I am considering to move everything to iCloud where I still have much space left. Now the question is: Is there an easy and secure way to move the autofilled files to a new place so that BibDesk will update all paths correctly? Since we are talking about hundreds of files, it’s not something which I can do by hand. The alternative would, of course, be to buy more space for Dropbox. Thanks in advance Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators.“ Francis Ford Coppola ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk not opening bib files
> On 9 Dec 2018, at 20:20, Simon Spiegel wrote: > > > >> On 8 Dec 2018, at 19:39, Antonio Fortin via Bibdesk-users >> wrote: >> >> I'm on macOS 10.13.6. Could it be that although the offending bibliography >> wouldn't open, once I attempted to open it, it prevented any other >> bibliographies from opening? > > I see the same behaviour on 10.14.2. Haven’t identified the problematic > entries, but it’s a .bib file which has been working flawlessly for years. With the latest nightly, everything seems to work fine again. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „ In zweifelhaften Fällen entscheide man sich für das Richtige.“ Karl Kraus ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk not opening bib files
> On 8 Dec 2018, at 19:39, Antonio Fortin via Bibdesk-users > wrote: > > I'm on macOS 10.13.6. Could it be that although the offending bibliography > wouldn't open, once I attempted to open it, it prevented any other > bibliographies from opening? I see the same behaviour on 10.14.2. Haven’t identified the problematic entries, but it’s a .bib file which has been working flawlessly for years. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „Economics is bad for your mental health.“ Yanis Varoufakis ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk and ISBN Number
> On 14 Sep 2018, at 15:48, Cycle London wrote: > > Hi, > I'm using BibDesk v. 1.6.16. My 'workflow' (so to speak) is to edit my LaTeX > files in vim, and then to run pdflatex on that and bibtex on the aux file. > > So far, so good. > > But BibDesk doesn't have a field for ISBN, and I'd like to add one. I can > edit the .bib file manually, add a field and then re-open the file and there > it is. Is there a way to add this from inside BibDesk? If you just want to add one field for an entry, go to Publication > Add Field … If you want add fields permanently for all further entries, go the „Fields“ section in the prefs. You can either add fields globally for all types, or you can, under „Advanced“ costumize each entry type. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about.‟ Barack Obama ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Adding field for bibliography output
Hi Jason,
> On 14 Sep 2018, at 02:48, Craggs, Jason G.
> wrote:
>
> Hi again Simon,
>
> Thanks again for the information.
> I’ve been reading through the links you sent me.
> Something I noticed though, is that while I can add a field to my .bib file
> (e.g., impact factor), I still haven’t found how to get that extra field
> included in the bibliography biber, biblatex, or bibtex creates. Apparently I
> have to edit a .bbx or .cbx style file, but I don’t know which one or where
> they are located.
first, you have to choose a style from which you start, something which looks
similar to what you want to achieve. The default biblatex styles installed by
your TeX Distribution are somewhere in …/tex/latex/biblatex Here you have a bbx
and cbx folder. bbx is for the bibliography, cbx for the in-text citations.
Copy the style which fits your needs to ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/biblatex (you
have to create this folder and the bbx and cbx subfolders) and rename them to
your liking. Once you’ve done that, you can simply call the new style with
\usepackage[style=]{biblatex}.
If you want to add a new field, you have to tell biblatex that it exists. For
this, you have to create a .dbx file in which new fields are defined. This is
explained here:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286987/how-can-i-add-a-field-to-an-existing-biblatex-type
Once you’ve done that, biblatex knows about your new field and you can use it
in your style files like any other field.
HTH
Simon
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Adding field for bibliography output
Hi Jason > On 13 Sep 2018, at 21:52, Craggs, Jason G. > wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > I usually typeset everything via TeXShop. Where can I find information on how > to use, and customize biblatex? TeXShop is just a graphical interface, it has no effect on the packages or bib(la)tex styles you use. While traditional BibTeX uses .bst files which are written in an arcane and not properly documented language to format bibliographies, biblatex uses .bbx and .cbx files which consists only of LaTeX commands and are therefore much easier to understand and to change. The biblatex documentation (part of every TeX distribution and als available on CTAN) is very exhaustive. For a first introduction to biblatex, the following links might be useful: https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/13509/biblatex-in-a-nutshell-for-beginners https://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/studies/news/events/biblatex.pdf HTH Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „If there's one thing I've learned, it's that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.“ Homer Simpson ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Adding field for bibliography output
> On 12 Sep 2018, at 22:42, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > I don't really know, I learned it by looking at some standard styles in the > tex distribution. > If you ever plan to modify an existing style or write your own, use biblatex. It’s much more powerful and much easier to costumize than traditional BibTeX. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club.“ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] v1.6.1 crashes on 10.9
On 14.11.2013, at 18:48, jhgowen jhgo...@mac.com wrote: V. 1.6.1 was very stable on Mountain Lion, but on upgrading to Mavericks, I found that BibDesk was crashing all the time. Almost any action would cause it to crash, including dragging a citation from one bibliography window to another, attaching a file, pasting in text to the abstract pane I recently upgraded to the nightly build 20131029, and this has fixed the crashing problem on Mavericks. I don't know if it is something to do with the version, or if there was something messed up by the OS upgrade and a simple reinstall would have worked, but just wanted to let suggest that you put out a new stable version, which should then run well on 10.9. If that's of any help: I don't see any problems with BibDesk on Mavericks. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Im Zweifelsfall entscheide man sich für das Richtige.“ Karl Kraus signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST JSON Services for HTML5 Native Apps OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access Free app hosting. Or install the open source package on any LAMP server. Sign up and see examples for AngularJS, jQuery, Sencha Touch and Native! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63469471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Citing reprinted works
On 19.11.2012, at 12:53, M. Tamer Özsu oz...@mac.com wrote: Could you not put it in the Note field? You could, but it would an ugly solution. As a principle: You can always put everything your style doesn't handle in 'note', it's just not the best way because it means that you can't manipulate different kind of data in 'note'. Like Jan Jakob, I'd have a look at biblatex; if you're in humanities you might take a look at my style biblatex-fiwi which makes heavy use of various orig-fields. Simon ==Tamer On 2012-11-19, at 6:39 AM, Themis Matsoukas tmatsou...@me.com wrote: I want to cite the Dover reprint (dated 2000) of a book originally published in 1963. How do I get a parenthetical comment, something like (Original work published 1963) as a Bibdesk field that will also appear in the latex output? Themis -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „When you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.“ Abraham Maslow -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] MARC21 XML import
On 25.02.2012, at 13:20, Christiaan Hofman wrote: If I understood correctly, the last nightly from February 24 should include the improved Marc21 XML parsing. Alas, I was still not able to import the file. Simon Apparently the extra part before the record makes it too long to recognize. Fixed for tomorrow. Works perfectly now. Thank you Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „If you ever travel back in time, don't step on anything because even the tiniest change can alter the future in ways you can't imagine.“ Abe Simpson -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] MARC21 XML import
On 23.02.2012, at 13:37, Adam Maxwell wrote: On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:31, Simon Spiegel si...@simifilm.ch wrote: Excellent. Thank you. BTW: I see that there hasn't been a nigthly since February 18, is this planned? Not planned. I'm away from the system and won't be able to fix it until tomorrow night at earliest. If I understood correctly, the last nightly from February 24 should include the improved Marc21 XML parsing. Alas, I was still not able to import the file. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club.“ signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] MARC21 XML import
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] MARC21 XML import
Excellent. Thank you. BTW: I see that there hasn't been a nigthly since February 18, is this planned? Simon On 22.02.2012, at 16:00, Christiaan Hofman wrote: Yes, BibDesk supports MarcXML. Just does not recognize this particular one, due to the extra type attribute in the record element. I'll modify the regex so this is recognized. Christiaan On Feb 22, 2012, at 14:18, Simon Spiegel wrote: Hi, is BibDesk supposed to import MARC21-xml from files? I see that it is available as an option for search groups, but I wasn't able to import a MARC21-xml file I downloaded from the German National Library (dnb.de). See the attached file Importing a non-xml MARC21 file works fine, there's only an encoding problem. The XML doesn't work at all though. Thanks Simon ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?collection xmlns=http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim; record xmlns=http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim; type=Bibliographic leader01633pam a2200421 c 4500/leader controlfield tag=0011012422267/controlfield controlfield tag=003DE-101/controlfield controlfield tag=00520110713223311.0/controlfield controlfield tag=007tu/controlfield controlfield tag=008110601s2011gw |r 00eng /controlfield datafield tag=015 ind1= ind2= subfield code=a11,A29/subfield subfield code=z11,N23/subfield subfield code=2dnb/subfield /datafield datafield tag=016 ind1=7 ind2= subfield code=2DE-101/subfield subfield code=a1012422267/subfield /datafield datafield tag=020 ind1= ind2= subfield code=a9783631614891/subfield subfield code=cPp. : EUR 39.80 (DE), EUR 40.90 (AT), sfr 58.00 (freier Pr.)/subfield subfield code=9978-3-631-61489-1/subfield /datafield datafield tag=024 ind1=3 ind2= subfield code=a9783631614891/subfield /datafield datafield tag=035 ind1= ind2= subfield code=a(DE-599)DNB1012422267/subfield /datafield datafield tag=040 ind1= ind2= subfield code=a1245/subfield subfield code=bger/subfield subfield code=cDE-101/subfield subfield code=d/subfield subfield code=erakwb/subfield /datafield datafield tag=041 ind1= ind2= subfield code=aeng/subfield /datafield datafield tag=044 ind1= ind2= subfield code=cXA-DE-HE/subfield subfield code=cXA-CH/subfield subfield code=cXA-AT/subfield /datafield datafield tag=082 ind1=0 ind2=4 subfield code=81\x/subfield subfield code=a791.43672/subfield subfield code=qDE-101/subfield subfield code=222/ger/subfield /datafield datafield tag=084 ind1= ind2= subfield code=a791/subfield subfield code=a800/subfield subfield code=2sdnb/subfield /datafield datafield tag=085 ind1= ind2= subfield code=81\x/subfield subfield code=b791.436/subfield /datafield datafield tag=085 ind1= ind2= subfield code=81\x/subfield subfield code=z3C/subfield subfield code=s372/subfield /datafield datafield tag=090 ind1= ind2= subfield code=ab/subfield /datafield datafield tag=245 ind1=1 ind2=0 subfield code=aImperfect worlds and dystopian narratives in contemporary cinema/subfield subfield code=ced. by Artur Blaim and Ludmiła Gruszewska-Blaim/subfield /datafield datafield tag=260 ind1=3 ind2= subfield code=aFrankfurt, M/subfield subfield code=aBerlin/subfield subfield code=aBern/subfield subfield code=aBruxelles/subfield subfield code=aNew York, NY/subfield subfield code=aOxford/subfield subfield code=aWarszawa/subfield subfield code=aWien/subfield subfield code=bLang/subfield subfield code=c2011/subfield /datafield datafield tag=300 ind1= ind2= subfield code=a190 S./subfield subfield code=c22 cm/subfield /datafield datafield tag=500 ind1= ind2= subfield code=aLiteraturangaben/subfield /datafield datafield tag=650 ind1= ind2=7 subfield code=0(DE-588c)4202262-9/subfield subfield code=0(DE-101)042022622/subfield subfield code=2swd/subfield subfield code=aAnti-Utopie/subfield /datafield datafield tag=650 ind1= ind2=7 subfield code=0(DE-588c)4017102-4/subfield subfield code=0(DE-101)040171027/subfield subfield code=2swd/subfield subfield code=aFilm/subfield /datafield datafield tag=655 ind1= ind2=7 subfield code=2swd/subfield subfield code=aAufsatzsammlung/subfield /datafield datafield tag=689 ind1=0 ind2=0 subfield code=As/subfield subfield code=0(DE-588c)4202262-9/subfield subfield code=0(DE-101)042022622/subfield subfield code=aAnti-Utopie/subfield /datafield datafield tag=689 ind1=0 ind2=1 subfield code=As/subfield subfield code=0(DE-588c)4017102-4/subfield subfield code=0(DE-101)040171027/subfield subfield code=aFilm/subfield /datafield datafield tag=689 ind1=0 ind2=2 subfield
Re: [Bibdesk-users] biber and tex preview
On 21.02.2012, at 09:01, Christian Pleul wrote:
On 20.02.2012, at 22:17, Simon Spiegel wrote:
On 20.02.2012, at 19:07, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
I don't use biber myself. But isn't it possible to use biber for the tex
preview in BibDesk, provided you edit the tex template file as well as set
the bibtex command to biber? I was under the impression that it should
just use pdflatex + biber + pdflatex from the command line.
Absolutely no problem using biber in BibDesk. BibDesk doesn't support some
of the more advanced biblatex features, but biber itself is no problem.
Simon
Hey,
My preview.tex template is:
\documentclass[letterpaper]{article}
\pagestyle{plain}
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\renewcommand{\refname}{}
\usepackage[style=alphabetic,%
backend=biber,%
language=ngerman,%
maxbibnames=99,%
maxalphanames=1,%
backref=true,%
doi=false,%
isbn=false%
]{biblatex}
\addbibresource{File}
% % The following command is provided for LaTeX2RTF compatibility with
amslatex.
\newif\iflatextortf
\iflatextortf
\providecommand{\bysame}{\_\_\_\_\_}
\fi
\begin{document}
\nocite{CiteKeys}
\printbibliography
\end{document}
The problem is probably \addbibresource. The argument for this command requires
a file extension (probably .bib in your case) since biber can access different
kind of data. The File only seems to give the file name without suffix
which is ok for bibtex. This can be easily resolved by using the traditional
\bibliography command.
Simon
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] biber and tex preview
On 20.02.2012, at 19:07, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I don't use biber myself. But isn't it possible to use biber for the tex preview in BibDesk, provided you edit the tex template file as well as set the bibtex command to biber? I was under the impression that it should just use pdflatex + biber + pdflatex from the command line. Absolutely no problem using biber in BibDesk. BibDesk doesn't support some of the more advanced biblatex features, but biber itself is no problem. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Entry type for encyclopedia entry
On 29.01.2012, at 11:45, Christian Pleul wrote: What would be the correct entry type for an encyclopedia entry when using biblatex? In the end, this does of course depend on your needs and the specific style you use, but I use 'collection' for encyclopedias. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That is why they call it the present.“ -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Dropping aux file and biblatex
On 11.01.2012, at 09:46, Janosch Linkersdörfer wrote:
Hi Christiaan,
thanks for your answer.
And when you look in the file, do you see lines of the form
\bibcite{key}{number} or \citation{key}, and do the keys correspond with
cite keys in your .bib file?
No, in my aux file, I have only entries like this:
\@writefile{toc}{\defcounter {refsection}{0}\relax
}\@writefile{toc}{\contentsline {section}{Introduction}{1}}
\abx@aux@page{1}{1}
snip
\abx@aux@page{34}{5}
...
What could be the reason for that? I´m using TeXShop with latexmk.
Do you happen to use biber with biblatex? If so, the citation information is
not written in the .aux file but in a .bcf file. Therefore the .aux file is
useless here and AFAIK BibDesk doesn't know anything about .bcf files (as a
general rule: although BibDesk works with biblatex, unfortunately, no
biblatex-specific additions are actively supported ATM).
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Dropping aux file and biblatex
On 11.01.2012, at 11:29, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:04, Simon Spiegel wrote: „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson Does .bcf contain the same type of information, that is what I said in an earlier mail? If you mean by the same type of information whether it does contain the information what is cited, then the answer is yes; it does containt his information (and some more). If you mean whether it uses the same format as the .aux file, then answer is no. .bcf files are XML files which were introduced because it wasn't possible to sensibly use .aux files for all the information biblatex/biber needs. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Goethen getroffen. Beeindruckt.“ Unbekannt -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] iCloud support BibDesk
On 10.11.2011, at 21:03, M A wrote: It's not really necessary to use iCloud for this. In fact, Dropbox is already doing that job (keeping the bib files on different computers in sync). What is needed is for BibDesk to notice when the bib file on disk has changed and update to the version on the disk automatically. Well, this is, at least in theory, exactly what proper iCloud support would do for you. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!“ David Mamet signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] iCloud support BibDesk
Hi, a similar topic has already been discussed on the OSX TeX Mailing list, but I'm interested how the BibDesk developers see this issue: I've been using DropBox already for quite some time. The documents I'm working on and my private texmf tree are in the Dropbox, and, of course, my main .bib file. This setup works very well, there's only one slight annoyance. I work regularly on two computers and whenever I forget to close the .bib file on one machine and make changes on the other one, I end up with two different versions of the .bib file. No big deal, but I wonder if iCloud integration would allow automatic synching between two runnings instance of BibDesk. I don't know what parts of iCloud are already accessible to third party developers (there seems to be some documentation on developer.apple.com) but at least in theory this is what apple already does with apps like Address Book or iCal (I'm actually quite surprised that the iOS version of the iWork suite already allow synching to iCloud while OSX applications haven't been updated yet). Any insights? Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Selbst in der Sphäre der Makkaroni, Zwetschgen und Kaffeebohnen gibt es umwälzende Ideen und siegreichen Durchbruch des Jungen.“ Gottlieb Duttweiler -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] iCloud support BibDesk
On 22.10.2011, at 11:57, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:37, Simon Spiegel wrote: Hi, a similar topic has already been discussed on the OSX TeX Mailing list, but I'm interested how the BibDesk developers see this issue: I've been using DropBox already for quite some time. The documents I'm working on and my private texmf tree are in the Dropbox, and, of course, my main .bib file. This setup works very well, there's only one slight annoyance. I work regularly on two computers and whenever I forget to close the .bib file on one machine and make changes on the other one, I end up with two different versions of the .bib file. No big deal, but I wonder if iCloud integration would allow automatic synching between two runnings instance of BibDesk. I don't know what parts of iCloud are already accessible to third party developers (there seems to be some documentation on developer.apple.com) but at least in theory this is what apple already does with apps like Address Book or iCal (I'm actually quite surprised that the iOS version of the iWork suite already allow synching to iCloud while OSX applications haven't been updated yet). Any insights? Simon I really cannot say much about iCloud. However, I have my doubts that BibDesk can use it, given that it links to other files, and in an important part by relative paths. If the .bib file could be stored in the iCloud, then why not the autofiled files as well? And even if this isn't feasible, IMO losing relative paths is a small price for much gained comfort. You could just disable the option for relative file paths for Autofile if iCloud was enabled. BTW I wonder whether the majority uses relative or absolute file paths for Autofile. In my setup, the .bib file lies in ~/texmf/bibtex/bib, and I wouldn't want have my papers stored there as well. That's why I have BibDesk put them in ~/Dropbox/Publications. Of course, I do not know other people's setup, but at least in this scenario, moving the .bib file into the iCloud wouldn't cause any problems with file paths. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] iCloud support BibDesk
On 22.10.2011, at 13:29, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 13:06, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 22.10.2011, at 11:57, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:37, Simon Spiegel wrote: Hi, a similar topic has already been discussed on the OSX TeX Mailing list, but I'm interested how the BibDesk developers see this issue: I've been using DropBox already for quite some time. The documents I'm working on and my private texmf tree are in the Dropbox, and, of course, my main .bib file. This setup works very well, there's only one slight annoyance. I work regularly on two computers and whenever I forget to close the .bib file on one machine and make changes on the other one, I end up with two different versions of the .bib file. No big deal, but I wonder if iCloud integration would allow automatic synching between two runnings instance of BibDesk. I don't know what parts of iCloud are already accessible to third party developers (there seems to be some documentation on developer.apple.com) but at least in theory this is what apple already does with apps like Address Book or iCal (I'm actually quite surprised that the iOS version of the iWork suite already allow synching to iCloud while OSX applications haven't been updated yet). Any insights? Simon I really cannot say much about iCloud. However, I have my doubts that BibDesk can use it, given that it links to other files, and in an important part by relative paths. If the .bib file could be stored in the iCloud, then why not the autofiled files as well? And even if this isn't feasible, IMO losing relative paths is a small price for much gained comfort. You could just disable the option for relative file paths for Autofile if iCloud was enabled. BTW I wonder whether the majority uses relative or absolute file paths for Autofile. In my setup, the .bib file lies in ~/texmf/bibtex/bib, and I wouldn't want have my papers stored there as well. That's why I have BibDesk put them in ~/Dropbox/Publications. Of course, I do not know other people's setup, but at least in this scenario, moving the .bib file into the iCloud wouldn't cause any problems with file paths. Simon I'm not talking about autofile. It's about the *reference* to these files. Absolute paths and aliases are only valid on a single volume/device. So they cannot be shared. For sharing between devices you need a relative path, because that's the only thing that's the same on different devices/volumes. And isn't sharing the whole idea of using iCloud? Files in the iCloud aren't referenced by a path, because they're not local files. Sorry, I don't get it. I don't see the difference between the Dropbox setup I described. Of course, you cannot share absolute paths between two volumes with different structure, but if you use something like ~/Dropbox/Publications as a path, there's no problem. And I'm probably getting something wrong here, but from what I understand, technically, iCloud files are still local files. From Apple's docs: All documents must be created on a local disk initially and moved to a user’s iCloud account later. A document targeted for iCloud storage is not moved to iCloud immediately, though. First, it is moved from its current location in the file system to a local system-managed directory where it can be monitored by the iCloud service. After that transfer, the file is transfered to iCloud and to the user’s other devices as soon as possible. (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_7.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010355-SW5). Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] iCloud support BibDesk
On 22.10.2011, at 14:27, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I'm not talking about autofile. It's about the *reference* to these files. Absolute paths and aliases are only valid on a single volume/device. So they cannot be shared. For sharing between devices you need a relative path, because that's the only thing that's the same on different devices/volumes. And isn't sharing the whole idea of using iCloud? Files in the iCloud aren't referenced by a path, because they're not local files. Sorry, I don't get it. I don't see the difference between the Dropbox setup I described. Of course, you cannot share absolute paths between two volumes with different structure, but if you use something like ~/Dropbox/Publications as a path, there's no problem. But you don't. You use something like ../../Dropbox/Publications/filename.pdf. There are many problems with tilde abbreviations. It assumes it's in your user folder, which may not be true, and adds extra dependencies on the reference, namely your user folder. Well, it's the exact setup I've been using for something like three or four years. So far, without any hiccup. But as I said: If everything could be moved to iCloud, then BibDesk could take care of all the files anyway. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car!“ Homer Simpson -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] iCloud support BibDesk
On 22.10.2011, at 15:31, Chris Goedde wrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: And I'm probably getting something wrong here, but from what I understand, technically, iCloud files are still local files. From Apple's docs: All documents must be created on a local disk initially and moved to a user’s iCloud account later. A document targeted for iCloud storage is not moved to iCloud immediately, though. First, it is moved from its current location in the file system to a local system-managed directory where it can be monitored by the iCloud service. After that transfer, the file is transfered to iCloud and to the user’s other devices as soon as possible. (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_7.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010355-SW5). You might want to read that document again. My interpretation of it, given all the references to sandboxing and entitlements, is that it applies to App Store apps, e.g. for an app to access iCloud from the desktop it needs to be approved through the app store. That's obviously not the case for BibDesk now or in the near future (and maybe never, given some of the App Store restrictions). I haven't heard anything official about whether non-App Store apps can access iCloud, so I don't know for sure that that's true. I haven't read the document in detail, but from glancing over it, I can only see that you must be a registered development team. This is tied to a paid developer account, but it doesn't seem to mean that you must distribute your software over the App store. But maybe I've missed something. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Jeder von uns muss noch ein bisschen was dazulernen.“ Helmut Schmidt -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] iCloud support BibDesk
On Oct 22, 2011, at 07:00 , Simon Spiegel wrote: On 22.10.2011, at 15:31, Chris Goedde wrote: the references to sandboxing and entitlements, is that it applies to App Store apps, e.g. for an app to access iCloud from the desktop it needs to be approved through the app store. That's obviously not the case for BibDesk now or in the near future (and maybe never, given some of the App Store restrictions). Never. BibDesk would never pass the App Store review for several reasons (calling other tasks, private API, etc.), and sandboxing it would be well-nigh impossible without gutting the features that we all use. I haven't heard anything official about whether non-App Store apps can access iCloud, so I don't know for sure that that's true. See the links and also the comment from Gus Mueller here: http://mjtsai.com/blog/2011/10/13/icloud-and-the-mac-app-store/ It sounds like the official word is on Apple's private developer forums. Of course, my understanding from watching Apple's cocoa-dev list is that sandboxing is so broken that most applications can't use it yet... I haven't read the document in detail, but from glancing over it, I can only see that you must be a registered development team. This is tied to a paid developer account, …and as far as I know, Christiaan isn't a paid developer, and I certainly am not, so that's a roadblock as well. If money turns out to be a major problem – at least I would be more than willing to pay for the described feature. Simon -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] stringByConvertingDoubleHyphenToEndash broken?
Is the tag stringByConvertingDoubleHyphenToEndash currently broken? I've been using this tag for quite some time, but with version 1.5.6 fields which contain two hyphens aren't displayed at all. As soon as I remove the tag from the template, the field is displayed – with two hyphens of course. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „It is a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years.“ Tom Lehrer -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] full biblatex support
On 02.09.2011, at 10:05, Christian Pleul wrote: On 01.09.2011, at 23:07, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Sep 1, 2011, at 23:02, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Sep 1, 2011, at 22:54, Maxwell, Adam R wrote: On Sep 1, 2011, at 13:31, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:16, Christian Pleul wrote: Since an appropriate customization of BibDesk for biblatex (e.g. entry types and fields) is already possible, but still very time consuming. Do you plan a build in full support for biblatex in an upcoming BibDesk versions, e.g. BibDesk 2? No.The big problem with biblatex is that they don't have sensible ideas about required and optional fields, they really have far, far, far too many fields. We cannot support that in a sensible way. I agree completely. However, if someone were to create a TypeInfo.plist with all of those fields and make it available for download, it could just be dropped in to ~/Library/Application Support/BibDesk, right? -- Adam That's right. I once asked on this list for someone to link one on the wiki, but AFAIK nobody ever did. Christiaan Here's such a file. Put it in the place Adam mentioned and you're done. Open a publication editor to see the madness. Before starting to experimenting... 1) In BD Prefs Fields Advanced: I am able to modify Types and Fields. Is this written to TypeInfo.plist? Yes. 2) Will TypeInfo.plist be replaced during an update? No. TypeInfo.plist belongs to your personal prefs and shouldn't normally be touched during an update. 3) What happens when I change the TypeInfo.plist and afterwards open an already existing bib file. Does field names convert in some way? Or which steps would you suggest to move from bibtex to biblatex when using BD? The data in TypeInfo.plist has nothing to do with the data in your .bib file. TypeInfo.plist just tells BibDesk which types and fields it should display by default, it doesn't touch the data in your .bib file and if your .bib file contains fields which are not in TypeInfo.plist they will still be displayed. After all, you can always add any kind of field you want to any entry in BibDesk. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That is why they call it the present.“ -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] full biblatex support
On 01.09.2011, at 22:31, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:16, Christian Pleul wrote: Hi, At the moment I am moving from bibtex to biblatex. I already find the new possibilities with biblatex (customization, better type definition etc.) very nice. Since an appropriate customization of BibDesk for biblatex (e.g. entry types and fields) is already possible, but still very time consuming. Do you plan a build in full support for biblatex in an upcoming BibDesk versions, e.g. BibDesk 2? Best, -- Christian No.The big problem with biblatex is that they don't have sensible ideas about required and optional fields, they really have far, far, far too many fields. We cannot support that in a sensible way. While I don't think that biblatex has too many fields, I surely agree that it doesn't make sense to have BibDesk support all possible biblatex fields out of the box. It's a fact that you will always make use of only a specific subset of all of biblatex's fields depending on the field you're in. I'm in humanities for example, and I will never use document types like @patent or @techreport. But on the other hand I absolutely need stuff like bookauthor or maintitle which someone in hard sciences probably will never use. But there are other ways how the biblatex support could be improved: For example offer biblatex as a default style for TeX Preview by default and/or biber as a possible default program Preview. Or crossrefs: biblatex/biber has a much more logical approach than BibTeX on how the different fields are mapped between linked entries. ATM BibDesk follows the old way. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] J App Phys bibtex not recognized by bibdesk
On 17.08.2011, at 19:22, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Aug 17, 2011, at 09:17 , Simon Spiegel wrote: Biblatex actually has a type @journal I don't see that in its documentation, You're right I was mistaken. though I see there are other ways it's incompatible with BibTeX (changing journal to journaltitle in @article? really?). While journatitle is encouraged, journal still works. Biblatex should have started with its own file format. In a way it has its own file format which just has a lot in common with BibTeX. And I don't see any reason why it should have something completely new. After all, I couldn't use BibDesk then. But honestly I don't really understand your criticism. About every bibtex style which is more advanced than the original ones has had its own extensions, many of them are not compatible (for example – website or online or electronic? Urldate or lastchecked?). Before I used biblatex I used jurabib (back then about the only useable style for German speaking humanities); this style already had various fields most other styles didn't support. New incompatible extensions are nothing new, they have been a part of bibtex for years. And the broken export of Applied Physics Letters is really nothing extraordinary. I don't think I've actually ever seen an online catalogue which did export 100% correct bibtex. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Im Zweifelsfall entscheide man sich für das Richtige.“ Karl Kraus -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] J App Phys bibtex not recognized by bibdesk
On 17.08.2011, at 20:12, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Aug 17, 2011, at 10:34 , Simon Spiegel wrote: But honestly I don't really understand your criticism. About every bibtex style which is more advanced than the original ones has had its own extensions, many of them are not compatible (for example – website or online or electronic? Urldate or lastchecked?). Before I used biblatex I used jurabib (back then about the only useable style for German speaking humanities); this style already had various fields most other styles didn't support. New incompatible extensions are nothing new, they have been a part of bibtex for years. There is a significant difference between adding a type or additional field(s) (which will be ignored by standard styles) and renaming a required field for one of the most common, standard types. The former is an extension, and the latter is an incompatibility. As I'v already written: In case of 'journaltitle', you can still use 'journal'. No need to get excited. And the broken export of Applied Physics Letters is really nothing extraordinary. I don't think I've actually ever seen an online catalogue which did export 100% correct bibtex. I agree that it's typically not error free, but usually the errors are gross syntax errors like this, which are easy to spot, or additional fields. Just wait until biblatex users convince online databases to use journaltitle instead of journal; that will be hard to detect. If that day ever comes, it will be a day of joy. Judging from the lousy export we've been getting for years I doubt it will ever come. But anyway, until that hypothetical day comes I see little to no reason to worry. What's the worst that can happen? Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!“ David Mamet -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Finding or customising styles
On 10.08.2011, at 14:01, Sebastian wrote:
Thanks for the explanation, Simon.
With looking up some of the terms, I think (!) I roughly understood it. :)
But my bibliography still does not quite work:
The «The Not So Short Introduction to LATEX2ε» which I had looked at
earlier, simply recommends BibTex without much explanation on
Bibliographies.
I have downloaded all the stuff recommended by Kirk
(http://bibdesk-users.661331.n2.nabble.com/Finding-for-customising-styles-td6655650.html).
and written
\usepackage{biblatex}%Dies ist f¸r die Bibliothek
\usepackage{csquotes}%für biblatex
in my preamble
and
\addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Bibliographie}%
\bibliography{standard}
\bibliographystyle{footnote-dw}
at the end of my document.
That's not the way you choose styles in biblatex. The correct way is:
\usepackage[style=
footnote-dw]{biblatex}
I have draged and droped one item of my BibDesk Library into my document,
which looks like this:
\cite{Lange:1972gx}
When I try to compile, I get the following error:
Package biblatex error: file x.bbl not created by biblatex
(by the way: how can I copy and paste parts from the yellow error box?)
This error means that you haven't loaded biblatex properly. As I wrote in my
previous mail: The .bbl file is where the information pulled from the .bib file
is stored before it is processed by LaTeX. So this error means that a .bbl file
is created but not by biblatex. I suspect that you currently somehow mangle old
fashioned bibtex with biblatex.
I have also read about a third of the extensive pdf documention for biblatex
now, but this does not help me much. All the information about entry types
and entry fields assumes that I can enter information like authors and
titles in some fields of a visible program (like EndNote or BibDesk).
Where is this surface/program/set of entry fields for biblatex?
BibDesk (or any other GUI for .bib files) comes with a set of predefined
document and entry types. With traditional bibtex these are quite limited,
biblatex expands the available document and field types considerably. But since
the individual needs differe and no one needs all of biblatex's fields, it
wouldn't make sense if BibDesk come preconfigured for all biblatex field and
entry types. But you can easily add them. You can either add fields on a per
entry base; just use the + button in the lower left corner or the
Publication/Add Field… in the menu. Or you can permanently add/change fields
in the prefs (Data Preferences/Fields). You can either globally add fields
for all entries (Custom BibTeX fields) or you can add/remove specific
document types and fields (Advanced/Custom BibTeX Types and Fields). It takes
a bit of time and experimenting to see which types and fields you actually
need, since this highly depends on the field you're working in (for example, I
never use patent, periodical, proceedings or report, but I very often need
fields like bookauthor, translator, origdate, origlanguage and origtitle).
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Finding or customising styles
On 08.08.2011, at 13:30, Sebastian wrote: Thanks for all the advice! :) I have downloaded the biblatex package and I am able to open all the files in that folder, but I have no clue what to do with it. Is this a normal program, like TeXShop, BibDesk or Pages that I can double click to open a new window where I can click on what I want to happen next? Or does this rather work in the background? How do I work with it than? My question probably shows how new I am to LaTex and related stuff. On the web I could not find a step by step users guide for dummies that explains how to get started. Also the long pdf manual that comes with the package, seems to assume, I already know where to open and how to use this. The best way to start is probably still the «The Not So Short Introduction to LATEX2ε» which can be found here: http://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/lshort.pdf. I try to give a very compact to your questions though: LaTeX is markup language. You normally have .tex files which are really just plain text files which are then processed by the LaTeX program (most of the times this will be the pdf(la)tex implementation). This then produces a pdf. TeXShop is just one possible interface for this workflow: Here you have a text editor, various tex engines (among them pdflatex) and PDF viewer integrated into one app. In a latex document you call, according to your needs, different packages which will expand the abilities of LaTeX. Biblatex is a relatively new and very versatile package which helps with bibliographic data. I am also confused about the relationship of biblatex, biblatex-biber and biber. Are these alternatives, or different things that I all need? Now, we come to the bibliographic part: In the past the setup was the following: You have a .tex file which is your main document, you have .bib file which contains your bibliographic data. The specific bibliographic entries will be called by various \cite commands in the tex file. This calls are written into a separate .aux file which is in turn read by the bibtex program. The bibtex program will look in the .bib for the entries written in the .aux file and write them to yet another another file, a .bbl file. The next time you run LaTeX on your .tex file, the data in the .bbl file will be output in the final pdf. The way the bibliographic data is handled is defined in the bibtex styles which come as so called .bst files. BibDesk is just a (very good frontend) for .bib files which can also generate pdf previews by going the route described above. While this bibtex/bst setup has worked well for more than two decades, it has several limitations. This is where biblatex comes in. In the beginning, biblatex was just a package which got rid of the .bst files. The whole formatting of the bibliographic data is done in .bbx and .cbx files which are pure LaTeX. The .bib file itself was still handled by the bibtex program. Since bibtex (the program) has several severe limitations, the biber program was written. It's a replacement for bibtex especially designed for biblatex which is, among other things, fully Unicode compliant and allows complex sorting. At the moment, biblatex can be used with both bibtex and biber, although there are already several features which are biber-only. In the not too distant future, biblatex will completely drop bibtex as backend. This was a lot of information in a very compact way and I don't expect you to fully understand it. So, if you have questions, please ask. Just one piece of advice: In my experience, the first LaTeX are best undertook under the guidance of someone experience with LaTeX. Two or three hours with someone in the know can replace a lot of reading and experimenting. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Jeder von uns muss noch ein bisschen was dazulernen.“ Helmut Schmidt -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Finding or customising styles
On 05.08.2011, at 15:47, Gerrit Glabbart wrote: Am Freitag, 5. August 2011 schrieb Sebastian 273...@googlemail.com: Hi there, I am a bloody beginner with LaTex and BibDesk and want to write my doctoral thesis in LaTex (if I manage to make this work!) For my field (Theology in Germany) I need a bibliography style that produces a full reference in a footnote and in the bibliography. If you're just getting started with LaTeX now, I would strongly suggest you look at the BibLaTeX package (installed as standard in TeX Live, and possibly MikTeX). It is being actively developed (which jurabib, iirc, is not), has a detailed manual, and if it doesn't have the exact style you need ( and it might, I haven't checked), it is reputed to be easier to customize than plain BibTeX is. Just another vote for biblatex. If there is a an old school bibtex .bst style which exactly fits your needs, use that of course. But since there probably isn't one (I'm in German humanities, so I guess I know roughly what you need), forget about .bst files or custom-bib. It's really not worth bothering, you wont achieve what you need with those tools. There are already several very good biblatex styles which should come close to what you need, and if you need to make changes for your special needs, biblatex is pure joy, while changing .bst files is dark magic. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car!“ Homer Simpson -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Finding or customising styles
On 05.08.2011, at 16:26, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Aug 5, 2011, at 07:04 , Simon Spiegel wrote: if you need to make changes for your special needs, biblatex is pure joy, while changing .bst files is dark magic. What files do you change for biblatex? For biblatex-apa, I see apa.cbx and apa.bbx. Biblatex styles are defined in .bbx file (for the bibliography) and in .cbx file (for the in text citation). Unless you're a TeXpert, those look worse than .bst files. Well, no, for two reasons: - Biblatex is extensively documented (contrary to the .bst format). Actually, I'd say that biblatex's excellent documentation is one of its majors strengths. - Understanding how the styles work and what do you have to change is actually doable with average LaTeX skills (contrary to the .bst format. The .bst is very obscure and it's logic has absolutely nothing to do with LaTeX). But the most important thing: There are some things (actually, a lot of things) which simply cannot be done with hacking .bst files. As soon as you leave English speaking hard sciences you're basically out of luck with traditional BibTeX .bst files. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That is why they call it the present.“ -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Finding or customising styles
On 05.08.2011, at 17:33, Maxwell, Adam R wrote: On Aug 5, 2011, at 07:37, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 05.08.2011, at 16:26, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: Unless you're a TeXpert, those look worse than .bst files. Well, no, for two reasons: - Biblatex is extensively documented (contrary to the .bst format). Actually, I'd say that biblatex's excellent documentation is one of its majors strengths. The bst language is documented in btxhax.pdf and btxbst.doc. Granted, it's shorter than the 215 pages of biblatex.pdf, but that's not necessarily bad... - Understanding how the styles work and what do you have to change is actually doable with average LaTeX skills (contrary to the .bst format. The .bst is very obscure and it's logic has absolutely nothing to do with LaTeX). I guess that depends on your idea of average LaTeX skills; I've written and modified document classes, so I'm not an absolute newbie, but the apa.bbx file I looked at is less comprehensible to me than a .bst file. Well, for one thing APA is one of the more complex styles. So I'm not surprised that its implementation isn't trivial. Second biblatex-apa is not one of the default biblatex styles, so contrary to the default biblatex styles it's not primarily meant to be altered. If you start with your own biblatex style it's probably not a good idea to start with biblatex-apa (except you only need small alterations). I can believe that biblatex makes more things possible, but I think the argument that it's simpler or easier is completely misguided. I dare to say that I'm not the only who strongly disagrees. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.“ Homer Simpson -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Where does BibDesk store autocomplete values?
Hi, BibDesk offers the nice ability to remember values that have been entered into fields for autocompletion. I wonder where this values are stored. Because BibDesk even seems to remember values that aren't used anymore. I just tried to unify some publisher names in my database and the different variations are still offered although only one exists now in the .bib file. I restarted the app – it still remembers. I couldn't find anything the prefs file nor in the Application Support folder. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „When you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.“ Abraham Maslow -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Where does BibDesk store autocomplete values?
On 13.07.2011, at 09:59, Simon Spiegel wrote: Hi, BibDesk offers the nice ability to remember values that have been entered into fields for autocompletion. I wonder where this values are stored. Because BibDesk even seems to remember values that aren't used anymore. I just tried to unify some publisher names in my database and the different variations are still offered although only one exists now in the .bib file. I restarted the app – it still remembers. I couldn't find anything the prefs file nor in the Application Support folder. Forget everything I said. Turns out I wasn't careful enough. The dictionary is rebuilt up restart of the app. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Goethen getroffen. Beeindruckt.“ Unbekannt -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] DOI and URL handling
On 20.05.2011, at 22:31, David Goldenberg wrote: Hi, Is there available somewhere a concise (or even not so concise) description of how best to handle URLs and DOIs with BibDesk and BibTeX? There seem to be multiple fields that can be used for this information, and it is a bit confusing to me which are preferable and how information should be entered. Basically, I would like to have url and doi information available both within BibDesk and for bibliographies, when specified by the bst file. I would also like to keep things as consistent as possible within my bib file. Any suggestions or links to existing information would be greatly appreciated. I did find this thread in the users mail-list archive: http://osdir.com/ml/tex.bibtex.bibdesk.user/2008-05/msg00010.html But, I was hoping for something a little more direct and, possibly, more up to date. None of this stuff is really standardized for traditional BibTeX. The best solution is to use BibLaTeX which supports URLs and DOis and all kind of additional fields and is in general much more powerful than traditional BibTeX. Adding the needed fields to BibDesk is perfectly easy, just define them in the Fields prefs. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Goethen getroffen. Beeindruckt.“ Unbekannt -- What Every C/C++ and Fortran developer Should Know! Read this article and learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help Windows* and Linux* C/C++ and Fortran developers boost performance applications - including clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Synchronization libraries
On 29.03.2011, at 10:26, Douglas Stebila wrote: What, if any, is the recommended method for synchronizing BibDesk libraries *and their collection of attached PDFs* between multiple computers? While it's easy to synchronize the actual files -- using a network file system, rsync, DropBox, etc. -- BibDesk does not seem to notice that the PDFs has been synced since it stores Mac OS file aliases in the BibTeX file, as opposed to say relative path names. Actually, syncing attached files is rather simple: I just have a folder called 'Publications' in my Dropbox and set '~/Dropbox/Publikationen' as the fixed location for Autofile in BibDesk. Since the paths are identical on the different machines, this works flawlessly. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!“ David Mamet -- Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Hyperlinks in RTF templates
Hi, when playing around with BibDesk's templates, I came across a tricky problem: I want to include hyperlinks in RTF templates the same way it is already possible with HTML templates. For example, with HTML templates, something like this is quite common: a href=$pubFields.Url/$pubFields.Url//a Although RTF does know about hyperlinks, a solution along this line doesn't seem to work. Both, Word and TextEdit, offer the possibility to turn parts of the text into a hyperlink. But if I give a template tag as link destination, it doesn't get resolved. What happens is that the browser tries to open a location with the address %3C$pubFields.Url/%3E which of course doesn't work. Is this doable? TIA Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson -- ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Two computers
On 20.04.2010, at 17:19, Jung-Tsung Shen wrote: Timothée, Fischlin, and Simon, On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Simon Spiegel si...@simifilm.ch wrote: The solution I use is Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com ). I have my complete personal tree (~/Library/texmf) on my Dropbox and symlinks* on the different machines point to it. It's perfect for this setup. *A symlink is something like an alias, but not quite the same. It also refers to a location on your hard drive, but comes from the Unix side. Symlinks are created in the shell, aliases in the Finder. The main difference between symlinks and aliases is that a symlink is completely transparent, meaning that the file system handles the symlink exactly like the place it refers to which is not the case with aliases. Thank you all for the very helpful suggestions. I have looked into your suggestions, and figure that using the Dropbox might be a better option for me. I have registered at Dropbox. Something I'd like to know more is about the symlink, as I certainly do not want to put the physical files into the Dropbox folder. I'm not sure I understand. The whole point of my setup is that you put your files into the Dropbox and that your various computers only point to that folder. As Simon pointed out, the alias might not be the best solution; I however do not know how to use the shell to create a symlink. Does the following freeware help to achieve the same task? http://seiryu.home.comcast.net/~seiryu/symboliclinker.html Yes, this essentially a contextual menu item which creates a symbolic link. Very handy, I use it myself. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully.“ George W. Bush smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Two computers
On 20.04.2010, at 19:21, Jung-Tsung Shen wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Simon Spiegel si...@simifilm.ch wrote: I'm not sure I understand. The whole point of my setup is that you put your files into the Dropbox and that your various computers only point to that folder. I might not have stated clearly: I meant to create a symlink but not the file (.bib) itself to be put in the Dropbox folder. Now one more question, could I create a symlink for the folder containing the pdf files, and will Dropbox be able to sync the entire folder? Absolutely, that's how I do it. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Two computers
On 16.04.2010, at 21:17, Jung-Tsung Shen wrote: I recently purchased an imac for my home so I can leave my macbook in my office and don't have to haul it back and forth between my home and my office. I managed to have most crucial programs to be installed on this new imac, but am now puzzling over what I should do to make the bib databases of the two computers synchronized? Here is the situation: 1. Both computers on each side obtains its ip address via DHCP (so no static ip); 2. At this moment, the database is on my macbook but I imagine that in the future I will constantly add new entries into either database of the two, depending on where I work. The database on my macbook is quite sizable so copying onto a USB stick might not be an efficient way if this has to be done everyday. The solution I use is Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com ). I have my complete personal tree (~/Library/texmf) on my Dropbox and symlinks* on the different machines point to it. It's perfect for this setup. *A symlink is something like an alias, but not quite the same. It also refers to a location on your hard drive, but comes from the Unix side. Symlinks are created in the shell, aliases in the Finder. The main difference between symlinks and aliases is that a symlink is completely transparent, meaning that the file system handles the symlink exactly like the place it refers to which is not the case with aliases. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?
On 28.01.2010, at 04:48, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:09 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be able to jot down margin notes by hand rather than typing on a window. Then the integration of this pdf previewer/annotator and bibdesk would be great. Some method such as the one used by, for example, Papers where the pdf file can be read within Papers would be good. As far as it goes, you can read PDF files page-by-page in BibDesk, if you zoom in on the file icons in the lower pane, or use the Quick Look preview. No annotation or fancy reading features, though. My guess is that the iPad would basically require a new application; BibDesk is heavily oriented and optimized for usage on a laptop or desktop system. That would require significant effort, not to mention a developer with an iPad :). It does look like a good platform for that sort of app, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Both you and James have emphasized the reading/annotating aspect, so I'm curious whether you're looking for BibDesk with a viewer, or Skim with a PDF manager. Apparently, MekenTosj is already planning an iPad version of their Papers application. Although I'm not really a fan of their desktop app for various reason, I see how useful such an app could be for the iPad. But, of course, I would prefer BibDesk on the iPad. ;) Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car!“ Homer Simpson -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?
On 28.01.2010, at 11:34, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 9:53, Simon Spiegel wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be able to jot down margin notes by hand rather than typing on a window. Then the integration of this pdf previewer/annotator and bibdesk would be great. Some method such as the one used by, for example, Papers where the pdf file can be read within Papers would be good. As far as it goes, you can read PDF files page-by-page in BibDesk, if you zoom in on the file icons in the lower pane, or use the Quick Look preview. No annotation or fancy reading features, though. My guess is that the iPad would basically require a new application; BibDesk is heavily oriented and optimized for usage on a laptop or desktop system. That would require significant effort, not to mention a developer with an iPad :). It does look like a good platform for that sort of app, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Both you and James have emphasized the reading/annotating aspect, so I'm curious whether you're looking for BibDesk with a viewer, or Skim with a PDF manager. I think it's clear that what one wants (and should want) is something very different from BibDesk or Skim. BibDesk is citation manager, to help with organizing bibtex, while this is about reading, annotating, and organizing PDFs. So it's more like Skim with a PDF organizing feature. As for the code base, I can tell you that 90% of BibDesk and Skim are totally useless for use on an iPad or iPhone. Therefore we're really talking about a totally different and new app, that needs to be written basically from scratch. Most relevant, Skim and all its annotation features are heavily based on PDFKit, which is not available on the iPhone OS, I think the only thing that would remain is the (tiny) SkimNotesBase framework for accessing Skim notes. The more primitive Quartz framework is much harder to work with, so writing Skim's functionality for the iPad would be a lot more work than writing Skim for MacOSX. I think we all agree that it would be very nice to have all this functionality for the iPad. But given that, the first question should be: who will be writing a totally new app that would be quite a lot of work? I can assure you I won't do it, and I suspect Adam would say the same. So if no one would want to start developing, I'm afraid this discussion is rather academic. Since most people who use BibDesk are probably academics, this is not per se a negative thing. ;) At least for me, I wouldn't want just a modified version of Skim, but also a way to edit my bibtex data on the iPad. So far, there is no way to do that. When there was only the iPhone there was always the argument, that such a small device isn't really the best way to edit your bibliographic data. Now with the iPad, I think this has changed. I think there really is a market for a bibliography app for the iPad (and Papers is not a bibliography app …). Anyway, I completely understand that this needs actually someone to do it. Thanks for explaining how much – or better: how little – of the existing code could be used. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It is a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years.“ Tom Lehrer -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?
On 28.01.2010, at 12:25, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I think it's clear that what one wants (and should want) is something very different from BibDesk or Skim. BibDesk is citation manager, to help with organizing bibtex, while this is about reading, annotating, and organizing PDFs. So it's more like Skim with a PDF organizing feature. As for the code base, I can tell you that 90% of BibDesk and Skim are totally useless for use on an iPad or iPhone. Therefore we're really talking about a totally different and new app, that needs to be written basically from scratch. Most relevant, Skim and all its annotation features are heavily based on PDFKit, which is not available on the iPhone OS, I think the only thing that would remain is the (tiny) SkimNotesBase framework for accessing Skim notes. The more primitive Quartz framework is much harder to work with, so writing Skim's functionality for the iPad would be a lot more work than writing Skim for MacOSX. I think we all agree that it would be very nice to have all this functionality for the iPad. But given that, the first question should be: who will be writing a totally new app that would be quite a lot of work? I can assure you I won't do it, and I suspect Adam would say the same. So if no one would want to start developing, I'm afraid this discussion is rather academic. Since most people who use BibDesk are probably academics, this is not per se a negative thing. ;) At least for me, I wouldn't want just a modified version of Skim, but also a way to edit my bibtex data on the iPad. So far, there is no way to do that. When there was only the iPhone there was always the argument, that such a small device isn't really the best way to edit your bibliographic data. Now with the iPad, I think this has changed. I think there really is a market for a bibliography app for the iPad (and Papers is not a bibliography app …). Anyway, I completely understand that this needs actually someone to do it. Thanks for explaining how much – or better: how little – of the existing code could be used. Simon I am pretty sure that a combo of citation management, PDF management, PDF viewing, and PDF annotating is really not possible on a device like iPad (and certainly not iPhone). We came to the conclusion that this was not even feasible on a normal computer or laptop without compromising too much. There's a limited number of keyboard shortcuts and menu items that you can offer, and the choices for those are very different for a citation manager and a PDF viewer/annotator. This is the reason we went for separate apps. With much less interaction you're much more restricted in what you can do, so you need to be much more focused on a single feature, you can't work with menu items and keyboard shortcuts. PDF organize + viewer/annotator can be combined, but citation manager would be a different app. And lots of functions of BibDesk are really not appropriate for iPads at all. I'm not saying that a complete duplication is needed or even sensible for the iPad, but I certainly can of think of scenarios where it would make sense to edit your bibliographic data on your iPad. If I read a PDF with the hypothetical PDF viewer, I probably also want to be able to change things for this specific entry like keywords or marking it as read and so on. Being able to edit the BibTeX data certainly makes sense. Other parts of BibDesk like the templating and export system, the LaTeX preview or z39.50 import are probably much less useful. But in the end, this just means that it would need a completely new app, which you said right from the beginning. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Goethen getroffen. Beeindruckt.“ Unbekannt -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] German Users
On 29.08.2009, at 14:58, Jonas Zimmermann wrote: Dear all, Are there data about how many German users there are and how many of them would want a localisation? Well, I speak German, but personally I run my Macs in English. Although I know probably more than half a dozen people who would prefer a German version. HTH simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] ISBN
On 28.04.2009, at 10:55, Martin Lacher wrote: Hi there, I'm a complete LaTex and Bibdesk Newbie, therefore perhaps a question a little stupid: I'd like to add the ISBN identifier to my cited books, but although BibTex seems to support that, I'm not able to find a field in Bibdesk to enter the ISBN identifier... What's the problem? I've got type book set for my reference. You can add any field you like to your entries in BibDesk. You can either do it ad hoc with the little plus sign button in the lower left corner of an the entry window, or you can have it as default for an entry type with the Fields setting in the prefecerences. Note that it entirely depends on the bibtex style whether the ISBN number is actually printed in your LaTeX document. Most styles wont print it by default (and to be honest, I very rarely see printed bibliographies where the ISBN number is included). Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators.“ Francis Ford Coppola -- Register Now Save for Velocity, the Web Performance Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] iphone app
On 13.04.2009, at 21:55, Daniele Pontillo wrote: Hello again does anyone agree with me that an iphone application to sync to and from the bibdesk client might be useful? I agree, now what? (Translation: I guess many people would agree that such an app could be useful. Unfortunately, someone has to code it. So the important question is not what you, me or anyone else thinks, but whether someone is willing to write such an app). simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Template bug
Hi, I have a problem with template tags. The strange thing is that I'm quite sure that this used to work and that I see no error in my template. The following snippet: $edito...@count=0? template for no editors ?$edito...@count=1? template for single author ?$edito...@count=4? template for less than 4 editors ?$edito...@count? the rest /$edito...@count? The problem is that the = seems to get ignored completely. When I have an entry with two editors, always the result of the last condition (the rest) is shown. The same happens when I use 3 or something the like. It seems like something with the comparison operator is broken (or I'm completely boneheaded, which isn't unlikely). SImon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] OT: Startup with web + desktop reference management app
On 05.03.2009, at 16:07, Michael McCracken wrote: The startup is called mendeley.com, and is apparently associated with last.fm somehow (through funding maybe) They have a cross-platform (QT I think) reference manager that uses a SQLite backend and syncs with a web site that has social aspects, including anonymized stats gathering about people's papers ratings, etc. This is interesting. I really like the idea of using the internet to make finding, commenting on, and updating research publications easier, and it's just as important to be able to keep some section of your data private (I think they let you do this.) and local for use in generating publications. Also, they've announced a deal to sync with citeulike: http://www.mendeley.com/blog/2009/02/citeulike-and-mendeley-collaborate/ That's particularly interesting, as it's possible they'd open up an API for other clients. Since I didn't see any OS X screenshots of their app, I can't say for sure but I have my prejudices about cross-platform UI design... Certainly an interesting project, but it seems to be a curse of all newly released bibliographic apps, that they offer much too limited entry types, at least for everyone who is not in English speaking hard sciences (I just say 'bookauthor' … ). What is interesting is that they use, like Zotero, CSL for formatting. CSL (Citation Style Language) is an open language (open as in the specs are available to everyone) for formatting citations which has been designed with much attention for the areas traditional formats fail to address (humanities, internationalisation, portability etc). At the moment, Mendeley's CSL integration is not so obvious, but I guess we will soon be able to use the many CSL styles that already exist for Zotero (http://www.zotero.org/styles ). Talking about Zotero: Not only has version 1.5beta been recently released which offers syncing among multiple clients, they also offer web access to your data. This is still a bit rudimentary, but it works and is geared in a similar direction like Zotero. BTW, the UI of Mendely's OSX is ok. It wont win a beauty price, but there's also nothing fundamentally wrong or ugly. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Optimizing files for quicker response
On 30.01.2009, at 15:27, Michael McCracken wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Jonas Zimmermann lis...@jonaszimmermann.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29.01.2009, at 15:38, Cloy Tobola wrote: I have a Bibdesk bibliography file that's getting large - 1.1mb with 315 sources. (Breaking it into smaller files isn't a good option right now.) Since I use the file (and attached PDFs) from several locations, I keep the file (and the auto-filed PDFs) on a WebDAV drive. That works okay, but it's getting slow. It often takes 2 or 3 minutes to open the file, and about 90 seconds to save it. Is there a way to optimize the file so it opens/saves more quickly? The only thing that comes to my mind is using a version control system such as SVN with this setup. So you can work locally on your files and only synchronise when needed. But of course, this opens another huge bag of problems... If you're used to version control, SVN might make sense. But it's a little overkill - you don't really need history and branching for this stuff, you just need backup and syncing. I haven't tried it, but it occurs to me that using dropbox might be the best way to solve Cloy's problem: https://www.getdropbox.com/ It syncs files between computers but should be much faster than webDAV since it keeps local copies of the files and synchronizes asynchronously. It also sends minimal diffs - I believe webDAV sends entire file contents for every update. The free account lets you store up to 2GB. If anyone tries this out, please let us know how it works for you. I use Dropbox quite extensively and I'm very fond of it. Among other things I have my .bib file with 3500 entries and about 300MB of PDFs which are managed by BibDesk on it. This works really nice and is for me so far the best solution to have my different machines in sync. I used unison before but here to disadvantage is that you always have to do the syncing by hand. There's only one problem, although I'm not sure about it. I think that in some circumstances, PDFs on Dropbox can lose their Skim annotations. As I said, I'm not really sure that this is actually true, since I couldn't reproduce it, but I once lost my annotations (maybe this happened before when I synched with unison). Maybe on of the developers can shed light on this: Could this be problem of Dropbox? On a related note: I'm not sure whether I got something wrong, but is it correct that BibDesk will only read Skim annotations in the PDF but not when they are in a seperate .skim file? simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Intro / biblatex
On 29.01.2009, at 16:17, Gerrit Glabbart wrote: Am 29.01.2009 um 04:26 schrieb Sam Russell: One frustration I had with BibDesk was the pain in changing entry headings to match biblatex's recommended values. Until I sat down with the Typeinfo.plist file and manually edited it. Would anyone else be interested in a copy made up to biblatex / playing around with it? Wouldn't this make a good entry for the wiki? I've only dipped my toes into biblatex (if you forgive me that metaphor) so far, but yes, I am interested, and I'm guessing there must be a number of people who are interested and who don't know it yet (jurabib users come to mind, considering that project's current hiatus). I'm a heavy user of biblatex, and to be honest I don't really understand what Sam is suggesting. What do you mean by entry headings? Do you mean the various additional fields biblatex offers? If what you suggest is to have a BibDesk which comes out of the box with all document and field types biblatex offers, I'm not sure how useful that actually would be. Biblatex offers a plethora of new fields, that's one of its main strengths. At the same time I doubt that anyone actually uses all of the fields (or even a fraction of them) because they're meant to cover many different areas. For example, I can do with nine different document types and something like a dozen of additional fields. I'll never use legal stuff or patents, for example. Although I rely on biblatex, at least for me there wouldn't be much gain if BibDesk came with all of biblatex's field out of the box. I actually would consider it a distraction since I don't need many of them, and the ones I need I can easily add myself (in the prefs or ad hoc). YMMV, of course, but as I said I doubt that anyone actually needs all of biblatex's fields. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Foreword to a book
On 27.01.2009, at 00:33, Richard Davis wrote: I see that biblatex-chicago-notes has customc: This is the entry type to use if the main focus of a reference is an introduction, afterword, or forward to a book, either by the same or a different author. No need for custom fields to solve this in biblatex. You can easily do this with incollection, author and bookauthor. The bookauthor will be smith, the author will be milbank. The title of the entry will by foreword. The Bookauthor field was, at the beginning, one of the main reasons I switched to biblatex because this case occurs quite often in humanities and can't be solved properly without bookauthor. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Advice
On 22.12.2008, at 11:03, Christiaan Hofman wrote: Yes, I know that. And other packages add yet many other citation commands. That's why I say: why not 3, or 4, or 5, or And you're not working with latex, but word. One reason latex packages add different commands is that the command determines the style. In your case, the choice of template determines the style. Getting the style from a combination of various choices is only confusing, and annoying to the user. There is no compelling reason for it, you wouldn't mix styles in a single document. I think it would definitely make sense to settle on a number of citation commands and not just one which could be defined in a template. At least in my field, having only one possibility for in- text citations severly limits the usefulness of this whole setup. How many commands actually make sense, is something we can discuss here. At least in humanities with in-text citation the following cases are common: 1. Name and Year in parens: (Smith 1999) 2. Name and year without anything: Smith 1999 3. Name and year with only the latter in Parens: Smith (1999). 4. Only Title: The Article One could argue, whether one actually needs 1 and 2 as seperata cases since the parens for case 1 could be done by hand with case 2. On the other hand, I sometimes also just want to cite the year. So after a quick glance at this, I think four citation command would be enough for my needs. Now the question is whether other users would need much more for productive work. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson -- ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Advice
There may be some use to multiple commands, I am not saying there isn't. But is it really worth the added complexity leading to more confusion and annoyance of through the need to provide separate templates for all of them? I certainly don't think so, and it's also goes against Apple's MacOSX design, which makes an important point of presenting things as simple as possible. Just to emphasize why templates are important for this: I use in-text citations which are relatively simple. But there are fields where you need to have a complete bibliographic entry in a footnote for the first citation. I really don't see how you can take care of these different needs without templates. As for the OSX guidelines: The problem is that this is a highly complex matter. It's not a coincidence that almost no system exists which can handle more advanced citation styles. The whole subject is inherently complex. And look at BibDesk: As soon as you want to do more sophisticated things with BibDesk's templates you can't do that in the template editor anymore but have to edit the templates by hand which is already very not Mac-like (this is not meant as a criticism, I think this two-way approach is very good). So I think the real task is to provide a system which is usable for the not so sophisticated user more or less out of the box but still gives the more advanced user the possibilty to do more (which is actually exactly what you have done by providing a graphical template editor and the possibilty to edit templates by hand). This would probably also mean distributing BibDesk with some out-of-the-box templates. The in-text citations could be done in a similar way: For one, you don't have to do split this up in several templates. At the monent, Conan's tool only works with all-in-one-file templates anyway, so you could stick the citation templates in there as well. Then you could define default a template for the different commands, so that a user who doesn't want to bother with this, can work away, but anyone with more advanced needs can edit the citation styles. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car!“ Homer Simpson -- ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Advice
As for the OSX guidelines: The problem is that this is a highly complex matter. It's not a coincidence that almost no system exists which can handle more advanced citation styles. The fact that it's already complex is really a case ion point that you should not make it even more complex, especially as it's not needed for most users. If you need to make things more complex for 80% of your users to support a (very useful) feature for 10% of users, the feature should be rejected. The whole subject is inherently complex. And look at BibDesk: As soon as you want to do more sophisticated things with BibDesk's templates you can't do that in the template editor anymore but have to edit the templates by hand which is already very not Mac- like (this is not meant as a criticism, I think this two-way approach is very good). Firs of all, bibdesk is mainly build for latex users, who already are more advanced than average mac users. As for the complexities of templates, they are supposed to be sufficiently powerful to fill the needs of the users and for various purposes, which requires things likes conditions and collections. And as you say, it becomes more complex when you want to do more advanced stuff. But that's indeed what it is, more advanced stuff, that most users can easily avoid dealing with. Moreover, the idea I had for templates is that a few advanced users write templates that can be collected for the rest on the Wiki. But that never really took off. I really don't agree, but I guess there's little point in going on with this discussion. In the end, it's not going to be me anyway who implements these things. So I think the real task is to provide a system which is usable for the not so sophisticated user more or less out of the box but still gives the more advanced user the possibilty to do more (which is actually exactly what you have done by providing a graphical template editor and the possibilty to edit templates by hand). This would probably also mean distributing BibDesk with some out-of-the-box templates. Perhaps, but the current 2 commands approach requires the users to /always/ needing to supply both templates, even if they don't want to make use of such an advanced feature. So perhaps if it can be added as an ignorable advanced feature it may be acceptable. But the added complexity for most users always has to be weighed against the advances for a few. And in this case, also given the different target user, I really don't think it's worth the added complexity. The in-text citations could be done in a similar way: For one, you don't have to do split this up in several templates. At the monent, Conan's tool only works with all-in-one-file templates anyway, so you could stick the citation templates in there as well. No, this can't be done. There's no mechanism to see what part of some text belongs to what template. What's the technical problem here? BibDesk2Word is already able to differentiate between the different commands. If we have two (or 3 or 7) commands which by default produce the same output, why can't you provide a template for those in one file the same way BibDesk already does for different entry types? simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush -- ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk - Word
On 17.12.2008, at 19:15, Conan C. Albrecht wrote: I've written a new BibDesk to Word connector. It's borrows heavily from Colin Smith's BibFuse, but it's written in Python rather than AppleScript. The program has the following features: - A nice user interface for setting formatting options and the desired template. - Support for many different citation formats, such as numbered, superscripted, author-year, etc. - Correct formatting for multiple authors and multiple references within a single cite. - Support for bibtex's \cite, \citep, \citet, and \nocite tags. - Different sort orders for the bibliography. - All references and the bibliography are kept in Word fields, which makes them easy to modify and update. - Formatting is two-directional: citations can be both formatted and unformatted. It can be run directly as a script or as a regular Mac app. It looks like we'll be hosting it on the same page as BibFuse, but I'm putting it here in the meantime: http://warp.byu.edu/BibDeskToWord/ Feel free to download it and give feedback. I found a bug (or at least a problem): BibDeskToWord gets confused when Word 2004 and 2008 are installed at the same time. When Word 2008 is opened, BibDeskToWord will still try to launch Word 2004 on startup. Later, when both are open or even when Word 2004 is closed again, it wont parse the content of the Word 2008 document. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „When you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.“ Abraham Maslow -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk - Word
On 18.12.2008, at 16:58, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On 18 Dec 2008, at 4:43 PM, Conan C. Albrecht wrote: Thanks for the bug report and suggestions. I'll work on them. I'd acutally like to mimic BibDesk's template engine (assuming I can access it) within the program so users can customize the different formats for citations. I'm not completely sure what you mean by this. You can use the template engine through applescript/appscript with the various commands, as you do. You can also get a list of all registered templates and use those. Since no one has answered my question, I'll repeat here: Any reason not to integrate this kind of functionality directly into BibDesk? And if this isn't possible, directly accessing the registered templates certainly seems like a good idea. Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Goethen getroffen. Beeindruckt.“ Unbekannt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk - Word
On 18.12.2008, at 16:43, Conan C. Albrecht wrote: Thanks for the bug report and suggestions. I'll work on them. I'd acutally like to mimic BibDesk's template engine (assuming I can access it) within the program so users can customize the different formats for citations. Something else I noticed (though this may be a Word problem): Small caps are ignored. While BibDesk displays fields with small caps correctly and italics are displayed in Word, small caps are simply ignored in Word (tried it with several fonts, among them Hoefler Text). Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car!“ Homer Simpson -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk - Word
Moreover, I don't think including it in BibDesk could add much. As communication with Word goes through apple events, it should be done through a script anyway (directly coding the apple event would really be a huge amount of work, that I'm sure nobody is willing to do). Therefore BibDesk would not be able to do much more than calling this script, it would not be able to do any implementation. What it would add is that more people would porentially use it IMO. The chance that the average Word user discovers both, BibDesk and BibDeskToWord, is much lower IMO than that he discovers just one app. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully.“ George W. Bush -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk - Word
On 17.12.2008, at 19:15, Conan C. Albrecht wrote: I've written a new BibDesk to Word connector. It's borrows heavily from Colin Smith's BibFuse, but it's written in Python rather than AppleScript. The program has the following features: - A nice user interface for setting formatting options and the desired template. - Support for many different citation formats, such as numbered, superscripted, author-year, etc. - Correct formatting for multiple authors and multiple references within a single cite. - Support for bibtex's \cite, \citep, \citet, and \nocite tags. - Different sort orders for the bibliography. - All references and the bibliography are kept in Word fields, which makes them easy to modify and update. - Formatting is two-directional: citations can be both formatted and unformatted. It can be run directly as a script or as a regular Mac app. It looks like we'll be hosting it on the same page as BibFuse, but I'm putting it here in the meantime: http://warp.byu.edu/BibDeskToWord/ Feel free to download it and give feedback. Excellent work, so far I like it a lot. It works as advertised and seems stable. A not so humble question (to either you or Adam and Christiaan): Is there a good reason (technical or conceptual) *not* to include this kind of functionality directly into BibDesk? I think this would widen BibDesk's appeal tremendously. With the template editor already in place and the GUI you now came up with, I think we have reached a state where an out of the box combination of BibDesk and Word becomes interesting beyond a small circle of geeks (especially, since BibDesk's templating is surprisingly powerful). Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators.“ Francis Ford Coppola -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk - Word
On 18.12.2008, at 05:17, Rajarshi Guha wrote:
On Dec 17, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Conan C. Albrecht wrote:
I've written a new BibDesk to Word connector. It's borrows heavily
from Colin Smith's BibFuse, but it's written in Python rather than
AppleScript. The program has the following features:
very handy. However when I follow the instructions on the web site I
get a Word doc in which the \cite{...} are replace with appropriate
superscripted numbers. But the bibliography in the Word doc doesn't
show up. The doc is at http://rguha.ath.cx/~rguha/junk.doc
I'm using Word 2008 - could this be an issue?
No, it works with Word 2008. Be sure to select a template where all
template formats are in *one* file. BibDesk allows both, to have the
template in or in seveal files, but for this you need a single file
template.
simon
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] sltightly OT: conversion to biblatex
On 03.10.2008, at 08:14, Alex Hamann wrote: My apologies for this drift into OT but I feel that my question is best posed here as bibdesk will be involved as a means to the goal. I am strongly thinking about migrating completely to biblatex (coming from jurabib). When one reads the manual it becomes clear that this is a decision which is difficult to revert as biblatex supports many options which - if used - make it hard for any other bibstyle to deal with the bibliography. I would like to know if anybody has actually undergone the effort of converting a large bib file to adjust it to biblatex's new fields (like titleaddon) and if there are any tricks in BibDesk which make this effort less strenuous. I am especially concerned about adjusting all the titles (something where BibDesk can very probably not offer any assistance). I took the same route, going from jurabib to biblatex, and don't regret it for a moment, although I did it right towards the end of my PhD, a moment where you normally shouldn't do suchmassive changes. Everything went well though. I don't have too much specific advice for you though. Maybe the most important thing: You don't have to use all of biblatex's option. The package really covers about every possible situation and many of them wont apply for you. I would start with really tackling the issues where you find jurabib lacking. The addition of the bookauthor field was such an instance for me, then slowly proceed towards more advanced stuff. One area which was important for me was the whole area translation/original publication, but that really depends on the field you're in. Titleaddon, for example, is something I don't have any real use for, and to be honest I don't see many scenarios where this is actually needed (maintitle, on the other hand, did fill a need for me). So again: concentrate on the areas which actually concern you, there's absolutely no need to use all the fields biblatex provides. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] changing requirements for NIH
On 31.05.2008, at 17:39, Robert Sekuler wrote: I use apacite.sty (and BibDesk) to prepare reference lists for articles, NIH progress reports and NIH grants. As of the end of May 2008 NIH wants citations to include the PubMed Central ID for certain publications. OK, I get that, and when BibDesk accesses PubMed it downloads that PMCID number, if it's available, as part of the bib info. But apacite.sty does not output that item What is best/simplest way to conform to NIH's requirement? Should I modify apacite to include the PMCID number in its output? And if so, how? Or should I try to make a new .bst file from scratch? Don't bother with .bst files. Have a look at the biblatex package if you need to come up with your own citation style. biblatex basically moves all bibliography formatting over to LaTeX. It's extremely flexible and well though out. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] changing requirements for NIH
On 31.05.2008, at 19:58, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 31.05.2008, at 18:56, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On May 31, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 31.05.2008, at 17:39, Robert Sekuler wrote: I use apacite.sty (and BibDesk) to prepare reference lists for articles, NIH progress reports and NIH grants. As of the end of May 2008 NIH wants citations to include the PubMed Central ID for certain publications. OK, I get that, and when BibDesk accesses PubMed it downloads that PMCID number, if it's available, as part of the bib info. But apacite.sty does not output that item What is best/ simplest way to conform to NIH's requirement? Should I modify apacite to include the PMCID number in its output? And if so, how? Or should I try to make a new .bst file from scratch? Don't bother with .bst files. Have a look at the biblatex package if you need to come up with your own citation style. biblatex basically moves all bibliography formatting over to LaTeX. It's extremely flexible and well though out. Do you think that writing a style that conforms to the (very rigid) APA rules from scratch in biblatex is easier than modifying apacite.bst? I'm a bit skeptical in this case, since no one has come up with an APA format for biblatex: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/a2d2d8bd900ea57d I don't know the APA rules, but I know hacking .bst files and biblatex from my own experience both. When I tried to modify jurabib back then, even small changes turned into long trial and error sessions. With biblatex on the other hand, I was able to implement a quite complex style in a few days. A followup: As I said, I don't know the details of the APA style, but from a first glance, the examples I saw on the web don't look dramatically different from biblatex's authoryear-comp style. So you definitely wouldn't have to start from scratch but could start with an existing style. And even if bigger changes were necessary, contrary to when you hack .bst files you'd actually had a chance to understand what's going on. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car!“ Homer Simpson - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Simplyfying Template setup
Hi, recently I fiddled again with my templates. Much kudos from me, BibDesk's templating system is now among the most powerful of any software. It certainly beats Endnote et al. in terms of fexibility. There's just one area which I think could be improved and this is exchange. I use biblatex for my LaTeX documents and my BibDesk templates also make heavy use of the additional fields biblatex provides. When I give my templates to someone else this requires quite a bit of setup on his part: He has to add certain bibtex types and certain fields in the prefs (for example, BibDesk needs to be told that translator, redactor and foreword has to be treated as persons) and then assign the different templates to the different document types. I wonder whether it would be possible to at least partially skip this procedure. In a perfect world, adding a template would already set up BibDesk in the desired way. I know this is probably too complicated. But can at least part of the information which is stored in the prefs also be put in the template (for example which fields have to be treated as persons) in the template? I do see a potential conflict on which settings should be set globally for the app and which are template specific, but I think at least some settings could easily be template specific. What do you think? simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Simplyfying Template setup
On 21.05.2008, at 16:57, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On 21 May 2008, at 3:53 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote: Hi, recently I fiddled again with my templates. Much kudos from me, BibDesk's templating system is now among the most powerful of any software. It certainly beats Endnote et al. in terms of fexibility. There's just one area which I think could be improved and this is exchange. I use biblatex for my LaTeX documents and my BibDesk templates also make heavy use of the additional fields biblatex provides. When I give my templates to someone else this requires quite a bit of setup on his part: He has to add certain bibtex types and certain fields in the prefs (for example, BibDesk needs to be told that translator, redactor and foreword has to be treated as persons) and then assign the different templates to the different document types. I wonder whether it would be possible to at least partially skip this procedure. In a perfect world, adding a template would already set up BibDesk in the desired way. I know this is probably too complicated. But can at least part of the information which is stored in the prefs also be put in the template (for example which fields have to be treated as persons) in the template? I do see a potential conflict on which settings should be set globally for the app and which are template specific, but I think at least some settings could easily be template specific. What do you think? simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich The simple answer is: no. This is not possible. The template does not have type information and cannot contain it in any possible way. Just looking at the format should make this clear, it's just a text file where parts of the text are replaced. I know that the template doesn't contain this information – yet. But how about putting the template files and a plist file with the needed information in a package ... Doubleclick it and everything gets installed as it should ... simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „When you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.“ Abraham Maslow - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Skim notes in export templates
Hi everybody, no idea what I'm doing wrong but I can't make skim notes appear in my export templates. I used the following snippet but nothing at all was displayed. I used the following snippet: $textSkimNotes? $textSkimNotes/ /$textSkimNotes? This was with 1.3.14 and with the latest nightly. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully.“ George W. Bush - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Skim notes in export templates
On 30.03.2008, at 12:11, Christiaan Hofman wrote: Can't reproduce this with the latest source (which is equivalent with todays nightly). Don't really know what happened here. I opened and re-saved the pdf file I did my tests with and suddenly it worked ... simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car.“ Homer Simpson - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk and my workflow
On 19.03.2008, at 03:40, Ingrid Giffin wrote: On 3/18/08 9:07 AM, Simon Spiegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for Zotero: There is work underway to make Zotero's data detectors work in WebKit (Safari's engine). See http://hublog.hubmed.org/ archives/001560.html . I don't know how far this is and when we can expect something, but this is not completely off. In theory, that would mean that BibDesk which already offers browser functionality could make use of all the clever website scrapers Zotero has. And there also is a tool which connects Zotero with BibDesk (http:// mackerron.com/ ). Add an entry to Zotero and it magically appears in BibDesk as well. This seems to be a bit flaky at the moment, it's not really working on my machine, but it's an interesting development. simon The Zotero auto-entry would be very very handy ... If it worked. Which it isn't doing for me. Nothing shows up in BibDesk. I'll keep an eye on it. It would eliminate a step in using databases like JSTOR that I can't search via BibDesk Search. There's now an updated version on http://mackerron.com/ zot2bib-1_0_1.xpi which works for me. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk and Papers
On 18.03.2008, at 08:58, Peter Cowan wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Peter Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bibdesk is nice for manage my references (and getting a good bib-file out of it) and pdfs in the file-system but it is missing the full-text search over the pdfs like Papers is doing and it gets the whole web-search thing more nicely done than Bibdesk (like automatically search for the most recent papers from the selected author or from the journal and stuff like that) and the interface just looks overall quite nice. Bibdesk has full content searching, when I type something into the search bar File Content comes up along with Title, Author etc. It's a bit slow the first time as it builds the search index, but fast afterwards (is it cached at all after quit?). I've been using the nightly build for a while, perhaps this isn't in the release version yet? You are right…well, it never occured to me that the file content is searched as well… well it seems then that only the nicer interface and the way the web-search stuff works are only points for Papers I've never used Papers before, would you mind explaining what it is that you like and how it differs from BibDesk? Papers has a completely different approach: It's first and foremost a PDF organisation and research tool. All in all, it offers similar functionality in this area than BibDesk (though not identical). It's main strength is it's really nice UI which integrates the differents aspects in a very nice way. If you work only with the search engines supported by Papers you're probably better off with it. That said, Papers is definitely geared toward hard sciences, knows nothing about different document types (it basically only handles journal articles) and isn't suited for the handling of bibliographic data. You will have unpleasant surprises if you import and then re-export your bib files with Papers. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully.“ George W. Bush - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Sparkle-integration
On 04.02.2008, at 10:32, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: Hi! I'm wondering if there's the possibility to integrate Sparkle with complete auto-update into BibDesk. It is already in Skim and therefore I guess it should be possible even though it's hosted on Sourceforge (this was the argument previously against it) There is a feature request for this as well http://sourceforge.net/ tracker/index.php? func=detailaid=1682848group_id=61487atid=497426 , but nothing much has happened here. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] The BibDesk input manager – a question and a plea
I'm sick today so decided to try hacking this into TeXShop myself.
Please download http://homepage.mac.com/amaxwell/.Public/TeXShop.app.zip
. I've basically integrated the guts of the input manager into
TeXShop, using our newer Distributed Objects API. Barely tested, no
warranty, use at your own risk, etc.
This is based on the source from Dick Koch's site, since their svn
repository seems out of date. I removed 30+ MB of QuickTime movies
and PDF files from it so the upload was a reasonable size, which
probably broke some help features. Oh, it's also missing the
Spotlight importer since it doesn't play well with my build setup.
Just a short feedback: So far, this seems to work nicely. No problems
on my part.
Something I didn't notice before: The autocompletion is case
sensitive. It only reacts with lowercase \cite commands. Biblatex
introduces \Cite command with a capital letter. they're meant for
names with a prefix ('von part') at the beginning of the sentence, so
that biblatex knows that it has to capitalize this specific case.
BibDesk's autocompletion ignores this.
simon
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[Bibdesk-users] Questions/suggestions for preview display
Hi, some questions/suggestions regarding RTF display: At the moment, if I want to have my personal preview style displayed in BibDesk, I chose the respective template in the Preview Pane Display in the Display settings, and I then set up my template in the template settings. I can also swtich between different display stlyes from the menu. In my workflow, I see myself often in the situation that I quickly want to change between different RTF templates. This cannot be done quickly with the current layout. I have to go the prefs and change the template in the Preview Pane Display settings each time. Maybe I've missed something here, but I think the current setup could be improved. Two suggestions: - First, add a button to the preview display where one can chose between the different display styles (like in the main window where one can select what columns should be displayd). - Second, and this is more important, make all existing templates available in the menu and the newly added button. Or if you don't want to make all templates available, at least the export templates (or add an option which one should be available). I don't really see a negative effect in making more templates available more easily. Keep up the good work simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] The BibDesk input manager – a question and a plea
Hi, let me start by saying that I know that the topic of input managers has been discussed on this list, still, I'm not happy with the current situation. As you all know, with the introduction of Leopard, input managers have been disabled due to security concerns. For me – and I know I'm not alone here – this means a major loss of functionality. The ability to autocomplete cite keys in every Cocoa app was one of the greatest features of BibDesk IMO. Most input managers can be enabled in Leopard. There are several tools for this, and IME this always works – with one exception: I can't get the BibDesk input manager to work again. Although the manager is enabled (with a tool called Input Managers) and I even re-enabled the respective prefpane in BibDesk by hacking info.plist, autocompletion doesn't work. So my question is: Has anyone been succesful in making this work? I know that the developers never liked the input manager solution too much and that they prefer costum solutions for every app. In this spirit I filed a feature request for directo support for BibDesk in TeXShop, my favorite LaTeX editor. But I still think that BibDesk loses much of its strength without the input manager. So this is my plea: Please think again about re-enabling this functionality. At least don't disable it if the input manager is enabled under Leopard. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators.“ Francis Ford Coppola - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Crash in latest nigthly
Hi, I discovered a quite fatal crasher in the latest nightly. When using the New Publication from Clipboard function. When I click Add and Close, BibDesk always crashes. It doesn't crash when I first click Add and then Close. I played a bit around with this and it doesn't seem to matter which .bib file I use (I also tried with a completely new one) nor what the Clipboard actually contains. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.13
On 30.12.2007, at 21:33, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On 30 Dec 2007, at 9:21 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote: That shouldn't happen. Does it remain a question mark when you reopen the detail editor, and in the main window? Yes. It also happens with a completely new .bib file. I don't see this, for me this works exactly as expected. What are your auto-file preferences? And what is the old/new path for the file? - File papers in fixed location /Volumes/Daten/Filmwissenschaft/Diss/ Publikationen - File papers automatically - Warn before moving a folder - Local File Format Costum: %a1/%A1%Y%u0%e -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.13
On 31.12.2007, at 00:21, Christiaan Hofman wrote: We save the file using an alias with relative path information. However during a bibdesk run we also keep another type of reference as the main link to the file (however this type of reference cannot be saved). Relative aliases require the two paths involved to be on the same volume, so that 's where it probably goes wrong. However it's still possible to link files across volumes, because we actually work with the other type of reference. But tracking it when it moves can get broken. I'm not sure where precisely things go wrong and how to catch problems. But it sure should get fixed somehow. Christiaan The problem is in fact with the other reference. Between disks files are not moved but copied, so the file reference loses track of it. I've added a workaround that updates the file references after auto- filing for the next nightly. But this requires more testing, also to see if the aliases work correctly with external disks (especially important between saves and also when using relative paths). Just tested the latest nightly, and now autofiling on an external disk works. Didn't do serious testing, but following the steps I posted works now. The live web display is also cool. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators.“ Francis Ford Coppola - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.13
On 28.12.2007, at 00:44, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: I think we've fixed the bugs reported by nightly build testers (thanks!), so I'd like to get a release out soon. Any showstoppers or other things that really need to be resolved? A small display bug, visible in the latest nightly: - Enter a term in the search bar and chose Any Field. - Open one of the displayed search results. - Edit one of the already existing fields. - Close the item window - The item you just edited is no longer displayed in the main view, although it should still be shown by the search term. This doesn't seem to happen, when I search for a person. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators.“ Francis Ford Coppola - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] master-detail idea (was: things to fix before 1.3.13?)
On 26.12.2007, at 20:31, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I also thought of an alternative. We could make both panes customizable, something like the following choices: Side pane: - Files - Details (template) - Abstract (?) - Notes (?) Bottom pane: - Files - TeX - Details (template) (?) - Linked file (?) The Files could only be displayed in one location, so this choice would be disabled for the other when it is displayed. That sounds like it might work... Do we really need the abstract and notes as separate preview choices, or could they also just be part of the template preview? As far as I'm concerned, they could be part of the template preview. The details one could be a template as well; we'd lose TeX font parsing, but simplifying prefs would be good (and we could remove some controller code from BibItem). Also do we need the Linked File as a preview choice, or can the new Files view be sufficient? That's an open question. From my perspective, the files view is more flexible, but I've argued against both options in the past :). User feedback would be helpful. A more general question: Would it possible – or better: would it complicated to implement – to have different layout setups the user can chose from? It's one thing about the Devon apps I always liked that they offer different setups. In the end, different people will always prefer different setups because they have different workflows, and maybe having two or three quite different setups would be the actually the easiest way. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] things to fix before 1.3.13?
On 20.12.2007, at 11:20, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On 20 Dec 2007, at 7:54 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 20.12.2007, at 02:24, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: Hi all, I have a developer and user question: are there any showstopper bugs or missing features we need to fix before releasing 1.3.13?I think most of the work is done, but there are likely a few things that we've missed. Not a showstopper, but something cosmeitc, which I think has some usability consequences: In the new drawer/right-side preview (or whatever it is called), when a file is displayed also the filename is displayed. That's of course good, but if the filename is long, it extends over the width of the file itself. I want to say is this: Screen estate is used without any real use when there is a long filename because the displayed file itself is shrinked. I think all available space should be used by the displayed file and the name should be truncated and maybe only displayed in full when you hover over it. I think there's no point in having all the space left and right of the displayed file unused. The filename is already somewhat wider than the icon. Making it even wider would lead to overlapping filenames for adjacent icons, which is not good. I think you misunderstood me, the file name is too wide IMO. At least in the examples I checked it's always written out completely, which uses space. On Leopard you can se the full filename in the tool tip. But it's not truncated at all, is it? Database Migrate Files, a new assistant to migrate file and URL fields to the new file icon interface. It has some options like removing the original fields. Note that this is undoable, so you can safely experiment with it. Ok, I have to check that out, when I'm on my other machine. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I'm not that easy to impress. – O, a blue car.“ Homer Simpson - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] things to fix before 1.3.13?
On 20.12.2007, at 02:24, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: Hi all, I have a developer and user question: are there any showstopper bugs or missing features we need to fix before releasing 1.3.13?I think most of the work is done, but there are likely a few things that we've missed. If you're using nightly builds, please test the new editor. There's also an option to migrate files to the new scheme in the last couple builds, and it will be further improved in the next one. Don't know if this intended or not: - The setting for the default PDF viewer is not followed whenever the PDF itself and not an icon is displayed. When I double click on the PDF in the right side pane, Preview is opened. - The PDF display in the entry editor can only be zoomed by contextual menu, there's no button or slider like in the main window. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.“ General Buck Turgidson - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] things to fix before 1.3.13?
On 20.12.2007, at 14:11, James Harrison wrote: On Dec 20, 2007, at 7:43 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: I get a reproducible crash here. I open my file, try to save it and BibDesk crashes. I can't reproduce this crash. Opening and saving multiple pre-existing bib files works fine in my setting. This doesn't seem to be a problem of the file, but of my setup. I get a crash, and the crash reporter says Importer asked to handle unknown UTI edu.ucs.cs. mmccrack.bibdesk.bib whenever I try to save anything. The setting for the default PDF viewer is not followed whenever the PDF itself and not an icon is displayed. When I double click on the PDF in the right side pane, Preview is opened. When I double click PDFs in the attachment pane, they open in Skim (set as my default viewer). Strange ... simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] things to fix before 1.3.13?
On 20.12.2007, at 16:39, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: This doesn't seem to be a problem of the file, but of my setup. I get a crash, and the crash reporter says Importer asked to handle unknown UTI edu.ucs.cs. mmccrack.bibdesk.bib whenever I try to save anything. Ah, yes...the UTI for BibTeX has now changed, so there'll be all kinds of fun with Launch Services. At least it shouldn't happen again. I can confirm that it doesn't crash anymore. Thanks for the quick fix. The setting for the default PDF viewer is not followed whenever the PDF itself and not an icon is displayed. When I double click on the PDF in the right side pane, Preview is opened. When I double click PDFs in the attachment pane, they open in Skim (set as my default viewer). Strange ... You must be one of the people who set specific app-file bindings in BibDesk. I am: actually, I think this pref was added because I asked for it. ;) The file view was written independently of BibDesk, so it opens the files using the system's default viewer. We can subclass it or add a category override in BD to use that pref. I can't comment on the technical details, but I think, if we have this pref it should be valid throughout the app. At the moment, when Skim is set as default in BibDesk and Preview for the rest of the OS, doubleclicking on the icon in the main window opens Skim, double clicking on the displayed file in the right pane opens Preview. That's definitely not intuitive like this. simon -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] things to fix before 1.3.13?
On 20.12.2007, at 02:24, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: Hi all, I have a developer and user question: are there any showstopper bugs or missing features we need to fix before releasing 1.3.13?I think most of the work is done, but there are likely a few things that we've missed. Not a showstopper, but something cosmeitc, which I think has some usability consequences: In the new drawer/right-side preview (or whatever it is called), when a file is displayed also the filename is displayed. That's of course good, but if the filename is long, it extends over the width of the file itself. I want to say is this: Screen estate is used without any real use when there is a long filename because the displayed file itself is shrinked. I think all available space should be used by the displayed file and the name should be truncated and maybe only displayed in full when you hover over it. I think there's no point in having all the space left and right of the displayed file unused. Related to this: When an URL or doi is givem, BibDesk displays a huge @ icon, must this be so big? What's the point of a huge generic icon. Or could a WebKit viewer be integrated instead? If you're using nightly builds, please test the new editor. There's also an option to migrate files to the new scheme in the last couple builds, and it will be further improved in the next one. What exactly has changed here? simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.“ Stanley Kubrick - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] OT: Biblatex 0.7 has been released
On 09.12.2007, at 23:03, Matthias Damm wrote: Hello everyone, I suppose there is quite a number of Biblatex users on the list, so you might be interested in the fact that version 0.7 has just been released. (It's so new that it is not available on all CTAN mirrors yet.) Yeah, already downloaded it. Unfortunately, I wont have much time to play with it this week. I actually wanted upgrade my main machine to Leopard this week. ;) Anyway, I can recommend biblatex to everyone who uses bibtex. It's IMO one of the most important additions to LaTeX in the last years. simon Best regards, Matthias -- Matthias Damm - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: http://macpla.net/MatthiasDamm.asc GPG fingerprint: CED3 6074 7F7D 3148 C6F3 DFF2 05FF 3A0B 0D12 4D41 Stoppt die Vorratsdatenspeicherung! - http:// www.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/ -- --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „It will take time to restore chaos.“ George W. Bush - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Zotero's scrapers in BibDesk?
Hi, I think I've already asked once about the possibility of making use of Zotero's scrapers for BibDesk. It seems like other people have thought about this too. Check out the following blog entry by Alf Eaton: http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/001569.html I quote from the post he links to: I've been doing some work to allow Zotero translators to use jQuery. The benefits of this are a) ease of writing translators and b) portability. The second of these is the most important: ideally Zotero's translators would run in Firefox, WebKit (which doesn't have E4X, eg Safari, KHTML) and Rhino (which doesn't have XPath). Now, I don't know if this already useful for BibDesk, but the idea to have all of Zotero scrapers inside BibDesk certainly looks intriguing. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] How to use Web Groups (Google Scholar)?
On 10.11.2007, at 03:20, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:15 PM, François Briatte wrote:
They are not persistent here either (1.3.11, v929).
How about a preference to set the home page for Web group?
Try the next nightly build; there's a dedicated bookmarks main menu.
Something I noticed which no one seems to have mentioned yet: For
some reason Google Scholar always gives the title in double curly
parantheses, so that BibDesk ends importing. For example:
@article{delany1970apf,
Author = {Delany, ME and Bazley, EN},
Date-Added = {2007-11-10 08:57:42 +0100},
Date-Modified = {2007-11-10 08:57:42 +0100},
Journal = {Applied Acoustics},
Number = {2},
Pages = {105--116},
Title = {{Acoustical properties of fibrous absorbent materials}},
Volume = {3},
Year = {1970}}
I realize that this an error on Google's side, but maybe such cases
could be handled by the importer in general. I can't really think of
a situations where one wants to have double parantheses.
simon
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] How to use Web Groups (Google Scholar)?
On 10.11.2007, at 09:55, Hendrik wrote:
Something I noticed which no one seems to have mentioned yet: For
some reason Google Scholar always gives the title in double curly
parantheses, so that BibDesk ends importing. For example:
@article{delany1970apf,
Author = {Delany, ME and Bazley, EN},
Date-Added = {2007-11-10 08:57:42 +0100},
Date-Modified = {2007-11-10 08:57:42 +0100},
Journal = {Applied Acoustics},
Number = {2},
Pages = {105--116},
Title = {{Acoustical properties of fibrous absorbent materials}},
Volume = {3},
Year = {1970}}
I realize that this an error on Google's side, but maybe such cases
could be handled by the importer in general. I can't really think of
a situations where one wants to have double parantheses.
The double braces tell LaTeX to preserve the capitalization. So if the
title in Google Scholar is capitalized correctly it will be correct in
your references.
Yeah, well, but in this case they're not capitalized correctly (at
least according to the rules I know about capitalization of titles in
English).
While this can be useful, I personally would also prefer it if the
BibDesk Scholar scraper would strip the extra set of braces.
Anyone against this?
simon
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On 08.11.2007, at 07:27, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: Back to the root of this thread, I uploaded a replacement nightly build for 7 November that was compiled on Leopard and includes the QuickLook plugin. Let me know if there are any problems running it, particularly on Tiger. After a first superficial test, I don't see any problems on Tiger. simon thanks, Adam -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators. Francis Ford Coppola - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
